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	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to No More News Live.
	Thank you all for joining me.
	Today is Wednesday, June 9th, 2021, and we have got a powerful show for you today.
	The latest episode, the latest installment of Esau versus Jacob, real uh Amalek versus the Chosen Ones for the ages for the generations tonight.
	We've got a Pharaoh and Moses showdown.
	Returning to the show is Israeli West Bank settler, rabbi, former IDF, Judas Maccabeas.
	He is uh returning to the show, descending down into the darkness and the chaos of the Kelly Pots of the land of the Gentiles to discuss uh some of these issues with us.
	He was on about a month or so ago, and we debated the Talmud.
	I really threw a whole lot at him, and uh hope but and I still have more questions, wanted to bring them back, and also we've been watching you, Judas on we've been watching you on uh against Syrian Girl on the Kill stream, and then the Black Hebrew Israelites uh the other the other week, Al and I, and Al has been chomping at the bit to have a discussion with you as well.
	So Al is here, Al Bashai, my friend.
	Thanks for being here, buddy.
	Hey, it's great to be here, hoping to get some of that illumination, some of that divine spark from the good rabbi today in this extra.
	Yeah, and uh Judas, you've also debated Mark Colette in a one-on-five.
	So I uh uh tip my hat to you for coming in here to do a uh two-on-one because I'm not gonna be an unbiased uh quiet moderator.
	I have a couple questions as well to discuss.
	But uh, thanks for being here, Judas.
	You're welcome, you're welcome.
	What are we debating, by the way?
	About that.
	Uh Jewish stuff.
	Jewish Jewish Jewiness, Jewish stuff.
	Jewish Jewish topics, if that's if that's allowed.
	Um how about how about uh global Jewish hegemony?
	How about how about that for a topic?
	Global Jewish hegemony.
	No one told me about that, but yeah, we could talk about it.
	Right.
	Okay, hold on.
	Before before I let you guys go at it, and I'll save some of my questions.
	I want to ask about uh plots to rule the world, uh chosenness, uh miracle creation of Israel.
	I'm gonna keep it simple and let you guys do most of the talking.
	Um you've been debating so many people, you've uh adopted the name Judas Maccabeas.
	Explain real quick the name and what you're trying to do here and how have these debates um been received by other Jews or uh the feedback you're getting from uh people on on your side.
	All right, so the I'll start with the name Judas Maccabeas is a historical character rebelled against the Seleucid Empire of the Greeks, Syrian uh Greek Empire.
	And uh he's considered a war hero by us as well as a national hero.
	Um, bravery, uh being willing to think out of the box, his military techniques are also something that's studied in military colleges, and I'm a big fan of those as well.
	Uh and that's the only reason I took his name.
	I also know that the people that I speak to.
	I I'm obsessed.
	This kind of gets into your other question with the anti-sem people who are we call anti-Semites, you know, people who are obsessed with Jews who don't like Jews.
	I like hearing their arguments.
	I like dealing with them.
	I find it interesting.
	On a personal level, like I don't that's why I do it.
	Because I find it fascinating.
	And I know that the name Judas triggers them.
	So they associate Judas with betrayal or like Jewish tricks and whatnot.
	And to me, it's like Judas, but it's also Maccabees.
	It's it's uh it's this rebel guerrilla warrior who defeated a large much larger empire and bought um bought Jewish uh sovereignty and uh independence to Judea.
	So was that was Judas Maccabeas a sort of messianic figure.
	No, actually, he was like a like an anti-Messianic figure in a way, because in I'm sure you know that in our civilization, we were one of the earliest people to come up with a prototype of the separation of church and state, in the sense that the priests were not supposed to be the kings, and the kings were not supposed to interfere with the religion.
	All over the world, like kings like pharaohs would use religion as a way to control the people.
	And for us, the prophets were always these independent people yelling at the kings, telling them that you know they're they're not okay.
	So the fact that these priests set up an army and fought against the Greeks was actually, even though he's a hero, was frowned upon by the rabbis because they felt that that would be uh mixing the two powers.
	They it was what worked against their vision of the separation of religion and state, temple and and royalty.
	So he's not a Messianic figure, and uh you'll notice like the Hanukkah story.
	We talk about the candles and the lights, because the rabbis tried to downplay the military aspect because they didn't want to encourage this uh religious zealotry of natural like you did with the name.
	You make a fair point because I'm kind of bringing it back because I'm like this rabbinic thing going, and I I have the settler thing, so you can make that argument, yeah.
	But in in our in our culture, it was it was supposed to be kept separate, you know.
	Yeah, well, I appreciate your approach of at least engaging and trying to debate instead of censoring like so many of your uh co-religionists like to like to do.
	Some people sense you, but like most of my friends, they say, Why are you wasting your time with these guys?
	Like, why are you doing it?
	And I didn't have an answer really.
	I'm doing it.
	I get it's mildly entertaining for me.
	I learned some things, I make some new friends, and maybe change some minds along the way.
	Maybe people who hated us a lot hate us a little less.
	You know, that's also worth some.
	Judas Maccabeas, make the goes hate us a little less.
	Could be a t-shirt.
	Uh so that's how you're being received by other Jews, is why are you wasting your time?
	Or they saying like good job or or some say good job.
	So my friends, some of them say it's a good job, others feel like um uh I'm investing too much energy in it, energy that could be better spent doing more productive things.
	What is your friend at Israel Advocacy think?
	I I know he was critical of Duvid's debates.
	I don't know, I didn't speak to him about these debates specifically, but I know that with Duvid, the problem with Dubid was that um I don't want to be, I don't want to uh I don't want to uh break solidarity and attack my fellow Jews on a hostile podcast.
	So I'm gonna hold myself back from saying anything.
	Duvid always stick together, yeah.
	Yeah, we gotta we gotta stick to our own, we gotta defend our people unashamedly, all right?
	But we have differences in approach, even though he's a bro, and even though he's one of us, we have differences in approach, and and I think that Israel advocacy feels, and I also feel that Duvid um didn't push back sometimes.
	When you're in a hostile uh area and you're accused of something that we are not responsible for and you don't push back, it sounds like you're agreeing, like you're accepting their argument.
	So you kind of need to push back.
	So he felt that Duvid wasn't doing enough to push back against you guys.
	I don't know, but you specifically, but in general, your whole genre.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah, the the the what they call the anti-Semites.
	All right.
	So um do you uh I've seen Ben Shapiro suggest that he could be uh Moshiach.
	Uh I just wanted to ask you.
	Do you uh with these debates taking on Esau like you are, you don't think you're Moshiach, do you?
	So I'll tell you something.
	I don't think that the fact that you like to call yourself Esau, right?
	No, I don't believe I'm Esau.
	I don't believe Esau existed, I don't believe it's real.
	Okay, but but no, but you like the idea of Issa because you see yourself as like contra Judais.
	So you take on the name Esau, but it doesn't mean that I'm required to uh I'm a yeah, I don't have to see you that way, right?
	And As as much as my friends will say you're anti-Semitic, I would venture to say you spend more time pouring over Talmudic texts than most Jews.
	And uh probably more than 90% of dudes, and I'm jealous.
	Like I think you spend I think you have more you I think you you put a lot of passion, a lot of time into studying our ancient death.
	So that's something to be uh said about that as well.
	Um right now, it was suggested heavenly powers unraveling the secret history of Kabbalah.
	I already learned that apparently you believe that the Islam is meant to destroy Esau or Christianity.
	But anyway, let's get let's uh let Al uh get his question.
	Kabbalah was was was formulated by Sephardic Jews, okay.
	Uh both both uh Moses Zillion and Shimon Ben Yohai were Sephardic Jews.
	Uh now I understand this is gonna be a little bit problematic because uh Judas claims to be not a follower of Kabbalah, sees it as whatever mumbo jumbo, but nonetheless, this this is the group that holds sway in terms of the Sabbatan Francas, the the capstone of the pyramid, the bloodline families, the rock child, and everything else, right?
	So let me give you an introduction about how I came out came into this knowledge, right?
	Um, because I used to be like so many other American Christians out there, a supporter of Israel and the Jewish people, and how they've been wronged and maligned, and these poor people that just had this whole horrible experience with Hitler, they should certainly have their own homeland, right?
	As is the indoctrination, as is the programming.
	You know, I I imbibed it.
	I sp I was a sponge, I took it in, and I was duped, right?
	What woke me up, and this only happened late in life for me, right?
	Only six years ago.
	Now, 9-11.
	I grew up in New Jersey, and I come from this from a totally different approach angle.
	I grew up with Jews.
	My best friends were Jews.
	I took a Jew to the prom.
	They're whoa, I never knew that.
	I didn't see not that it matters, I'm just saying.
	I didn't see any of this.
	They were secular, I guess you'd call them reformist Jews.
	I attended a bot mitzvah, two bar mitzvahs at the Sons of Israel synagogue in my in my town.
	There was I had never never in my life had I had problem.
	My my friend's father, a Jew, Jewish psychiatrist, never mentioned the Talmud, never brought up the Torah, never talked about his Jewishness, never, I was never zero.
	I went on vacations with these people.
	He was a second father to me.
	I his grandmother came out of the the WW2 experience from a Polish slave camp with the tattoo.
	I used to see the checks from Deutsche Bank every month.
	Okay.
	I came from this from a totally indoctrinated, insulated uh you know, world where I didn't see any of the malevolence.
	Now, let's fast forward, right?
	And and and they weren't your, you know, the Jews that like are totally segregated, don't talk to the goys, none of that.
	These were assimilated American secular Jews, my friends.
	Okay.
	Now let's fast forward.
	We go to 9-11.
	Okay.
	I knew over 20 people that died on 9-11.
	I worked a block guy.
	It was a taboo topic for me for over a decade.
	But when I finally did go into it and realized, holy shit, this was a Zionist operation.
	This was this was the Odid Yanan plan, right?
	The the blueprint to kick it off for the Middle East to get the American muscle to fight Israel's wars, to balkanize the Middle East and establish Israeli hegemony over the region.
	Boom.
	The research kept coming, and then you go down that rabbit hole of, you know, finding out what really happened.
	The correct chronicle, right?
	Deconstructing history.
	And you're looking for the authors of all these wars.
	What happened with the Turkish Caliphate, the Umidine Caliphate, you know, the prominent Jews, the Jewish families, the Sephardic families at the beginning, right?
	And history, and deconstructing it.
	And all the roads, right, all the authors, all the architects of all these fucking conflagrations and wars led me down the same path, organized world Jewry, okay?
	So you could say I was looking for the devil, and I found organized world Jewry, all right?
	Now, these are incontrovertible facts, but because the power that has been leveraged over the course of millennia, in which the information is controlled, disseminated, every news desk, every news anchor, everyone is controlled.
	So the programming is successful.
	People are indoctrinated.
	The sheeple will be fed teaspoon after teaspoon of these lies and accepted.
	Now, here we are in the real world, and you have to confront it.
	That's where we are.
	It's not like, you know, the whole rabbi thing about, oh, the goys are born with this innate anti-Semitic gene.
	That's nonsense, okay?
	That's just dismissive.
	Okay, Al, Al.
	That's just straw man nonsense.
	Yeah.
	That sounds so similar to, you know, my awakening process.
	But I just wanted to, you know, you went on for a few minutes.
	I just wanted to, you know, before you go over too many things for him to address all one by one, if he...
	I just wanted to share with Judas my story of how, my awakening to this malevolent threat that I see now in front of me.
	And we're going to talk into, I want to get into how exactly it is a malevolent force.
	And, you know, we can go down that road, but go ahead.
	ahead judas minute or two uh we won't interrupt go ahead okay
	so um what do you mean a minute or two was that five minutes i don't have a clock in front of me it felt like he covered a lot of things yeah we covered a lot of things and i need to respond to those okay go ahead take as much time as you need to respond but don't talk too much or i'll have to cut it cut it off shut it down go ahead the guy no all right listen let's let's keep we're gonna keep it uh polite don't worry listen first of all you're a
	coptic uh christian no protestant but but there's there's Coptics in my family like you were raised you were raised in Egypt or like you're from Egypt right I I was born in Alexandria we spent uh probably a year and a half in Beirut and I and I was in the United States when I was about two and a half three years old I didn't know you were actually born in Egypt I didn't know that I'm I'm I'm the original man not Ariak I'm the original man.
	Yeah, Pharaoh versus Moses.
	Did you like that comparison, Judas?
	So you're not Coptic?
	Your parents are Muslim?
	No, Protestant, Protestant, not Coptic.
	Egyptian, interesting.
	First thing you said, the Sephardic Jews started Kabbalah, right?
	Right.
	You mentioned two names.
	You mentioned Moses de Leon, who was in fact a Spanish Jew.
	And you mentioned Shimon bar Yochai, right?
	was lived in the year like about first disputed century pretty much the first there was no uh Sephardic Ashkenaz split at the time Sephardic Ashkenaz is just when Jews went into Europe those that went north they call them Ashkenaz and those that stayed around the Levant or Syria or Turkey and so on they they call themselves Sephardic right even if they weren't necessarily from Spain.
	So it's not it's not founded by Sephardic Jews Every religion and every civilization in the world develops a mystic develops a mystical tradition as well.
	The Kabbalah is one of those things.
	The fact that I disagree with most of it doesn't mean that I can defend it.
	I can defend it as well because my issues with the Kabbalah are not yours.
	I think that your um I think what you're saying about you know Jewish control of everything and 9-11 was designed so that uh you know Israel by Israel to fight America's wars.
	I don't know about any of those things.
	I don't believe in them.
	I consider them uh I consider those things to be a conspiracy theories.
	And when I'm with the the few the let me finish, I didn't interrupt you.
	We didn't talk.
	Yeah, we just we we just giggled a little bit.
	Sorry.
	Can I just interject?
	No, no, let him keep going.
	I want to hear where he's going with this.
	No more interjections.
	I'll I'll let you give I'll give you your whole five minutes.
	Look, whatever uh whatever um uh the documentaries that various people on YouTube or on the web made about how we did 9-11 that I've watched were extremely unconvincing to me, who doesn't do conspiracy theories.
	I just was not convinced.
	Now I I don't think there's evidence out there that that's the case.
	And you're and and but I want to ask you a question, okay?
	Question I want to ask you.
	You mentioned that because uh you mentioned that you had a lot of Jewish friends growing up, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Most of them.
	And these are nice people, right?
	We get to you.
	No, no, no complaints, right?
	Now you would agree that those people don't know about these conspiracies.
	Or are they they have listen?
	They have absolutely nothing to do with it.
	I'm I'm not claiming that every rank and file Jew out there is is tuned into this this international conspiracy.
	Of course.
	Come on, you know, you know that we don't believe that, Judas.
	But go ahead.
	I'm establishing that.
	I don't know.
	I have my first time speaking foul.
	Okay.
	Let's assume that uh that we well, we're gonna agree that the Jews that you know have no idea about this conspiracy theory.
	I do I know about a conspiracy or am I innocent?
	What do you think?
	That's your guess.
	I I don't know.
	I mean, you you're you're you're not exactly in their situation.
	You're you're a you're a colonizer, right?
	You're a settler on occupied uh land that does not belong to you.
	So you're you're you're certainly culpable and accountable for that crime.
	No, but am I tuned in to that?
	We're gonna get to the colonizer aspect.
	That's something I know more about than uh than these uh crackpot theories.
	But um, do you think I'm involved?
	Do you think that I know that I'm like you you think that there's a conspiracy theory out there where Jews are planning everything and pulling the strings and doing 9-11 and controlling the whole world?
	Do you think me personally, the guy talking to you on the phone right now?
	Do you think I'm involved in that?
	Do I know about that or do I not know about that?
	What do you think?
	He was in the IDF.
	Remember, he's in the IDF.
	It's in the manual, the first page of every IDF.
	Wage war by deception.
	You're aiding and abetting in this conspiracy actively as a settler, for sure.
	So let's do this.
	Instead of having me defend uh I can defend my settler stuff, I can defend IDF service.
	I can't, it's very hard for me to defend some secret organization that controls the whole world because that's something that I I don't believe in.
	It's it's almost like a religious, it's almost like a religious argument between a Christian and a Muslim, if Jesus was the king or God or what that's like these two people will never agree.
	I don't think that you have any information that I've not seen about, let's say 9-11 truthers, right?
	And I don't think I have evidence that we didn't do.
	So I don't think that argument will be.
	Do you do you understand that there was 200 Masad operatives picked up in America within the first 24 hours of 9-11?
	Do you know that fact?
	Let me let me start.
	I I as I was saying, the whole 9-11 thing, we're gonna get nowhere because I'm not gonna start Googling now what part of the conspiracy theory is true and what part isn't true.
	It's not a subject that I specialize in.
	Let's focus on something that you and I can actually argue about.
	That's fine.
	I was hold on, hold on.
	Hold on, hold on, Al.
	The 9-11 experience as the catalyst for my awakening.
	Dwell on 9-11.
	I've heard that.
	I've heard that.
	But if you I could do a show about 9-11, in which case I would need to prepare, right?
	Like I know about steel beams.
	I know that like that's not true.
	Like I worked in construction.
	I know that you know that uh uh jet jet jet fuel can actually weaken the structural integrity of steel beams.
	That's something I know about, but it's like the one isolated thing that I can defend.
	I don't I I'm not going to now uh put you on pause, go on Google and see how many Masad guys were arrested and what they were doing and whatnot and why they were arrested and what happened, and if that's evidence at all, because our two countries, as friendly as we are, we're always spying on each other.
	Got tons of Americans spying on us here, and we have Israelis spying on you guys.
	I don't think there's a lot of Americans spying.
	This is what I told Adam at the beginning of this of this stream.
	I'm going to check you at all your at all the bullshit.
	So when you come out with with with we both spy on each other, and but that's not necessarily true.
	Israel definitely spies more heavily on the on us than vice versa.
	So that's we have to, you know, we you have to check that stuff.
	Just you know.
	I don't know if these things are things that can be measured scientifically, but you can definitely find your new nuclear program.
	How about Jonathan Pollard?
	How about uh uh uh Benjamin Netanyahu and um Arnon Milkan in the 70s?
	How about Apollo uh Pennsylvania?
	How about the promise software?
	Let's uh let's let's I mean listen, listen, you guys got your nukes from stealing it from us with with a and and uh a French reactor.
	The world knows this.
	We should take them too, because of the Samson option.
	It's not a secret, it's not a conspiracy theory.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me talk real quick.
	Let me talk real quick, guys.
	I I want to say, Judas, I want to ask you uh first, there's a lot of disinfo surrounding 9-11.
	So I'm wondering in the because in on purpose, because they wanted to poison the well.
	Um I'm wondering how deeply did you investigate and research and who are some of the people that you researched.
	I investigated like this, like this.
	I remember the only thing I remember well.
	I mean, uh I investigated as much as I could until I got bored, but I remember everybody was talking about steel beams.
	I looked, I work in construction, something I know about.
	I know that steel beams, even if they don't melt, if they reach a certain level of heat, they uh lose their structural integrity and the building will collapse the way 9-11 collapse.
	That was that was a conspiracy theory.
	Uh a lot of the stuff about dancing Israelis was just silliness.
	No, no, not silliness.
	Uh how was that silliness?
	Yeah, if you think if you think that uh like I I'm Israeli, I live here, notized right.
	If you think that Israeli moving company bros, guys who barely finished high school who come to America after the army for a few years to make some money with their muscle and go back to Israel, you think those guys are going to be chosen by Israel to do anything of any value, you must be insane.
	You must be uh delusible.
	They couldn't help but celebrate.
	Guys, uh I'm um it's entertaining, I like doing it, but I can't be dogpiled all the time, right?
	I'm responding to your question.
	If you think that these kind of guys, right, don't look at the names of the people that were picked up or doing whatever stuff they were doing.
	If you think Israel will will use or any country with you as an asset, some kid out of the army who can speak English, who's drinks and parties and takes drugs and stuff like that, you you really don't understand how um how intelligence communities work.
	I think that you guys from this bit that I've watched from your show, I think you guys are obsessed with Israel and the Jews, and it helps you it helps you deal with the world, you know, it helps you deal with how complicated the world is, it helps you deal with like uncertainty.
	See, it's it's it's very tempting.
	It's what religion also does, right?
	It's very tempting to find a simple solution to complex problems.
	But I'd like to focus on if if if Israel Israel and world jewelry, yeah, let Al respond.
	Go ahead.
	Israel Wasn't framing nations, you know, provoking antagonizing wars, subverting peoples, you know, making their, you know, they you guys like to pretend like, oh, this is God's will.
	This is divine providence when you're engineering the whole thing, you know.
	It's it's it's laughable, it's transparent to those who actually are in tune to what's going on.
	How many times did Benjamin Netanyahu come before Congress in the 80s and tell us Saddam is three months away, Saddam is three months away for decades and decade after decade.
	He's a month away from a b from a nuke.
	You played the same game with Iran, right?
	Come hell or high water, say whatever it takes, you know.
	Uh just sell, sell, sell the threat.
	And then what did Netanyahu say after 9-11?
	9-11 has is very good for Israel.
	And uh America's uh being bocked down in Iraq is very helpful to them.
	All this stuff.
	So we we see it, you know.
	It's not like you guys are oh, we're just little uh poor Israel here, you know, trying to trying to survive uh against uh in a very rough neighborhood where everyone hates us.
	It's that's that's the indoctrination.
	That's the programming and the brain and the brainwashing from our Talmud visions, right?
	Every day.
	Okay, you go ahead.
	Obviously, go ahead, Judas.
	My turn?
	Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
	Okay, so again, I I need to focus on specific things.
	You know, if you talk about these general accusations, I can focus on some, I can treat some of the allegations you make, right?
	Israel, like every other country in the world, exerts influence and wants to win in its conflict with its uh enemies, you know.
	Um we're surrounded since we look.
	Are we your enemy?
	I don't know.
	You guys are thinking we are, you consider us an M an enemy.
	That's the problem.
	I don't consider you're an enemy.
	I'll tell you why I don't consider you an enemy because you're powerless, you're despised and hated by everyone.
	Uh you can't even be on YouTube.
	Um, you're always being censored.
	I didn't mean us, I meant like America.
	Oh, America?
	No, America's a dear friend of us.
	No, I see America as a friend.
	I don't see America as an enemy.
	I mean, you specifically, but you mean you guys.
	Um, I don't see you guys.
	You too.
	You specifically, yeah, you Al.
	Nobody likes you as a person.
	Not because you're a bad guy.
	I don't think in your personal life you're a bad guy, but this views you aspouse and the way you espouse them.
	Well, would mean personally decide.
	But believe me, believe me, what when you when you tell me that, that is the greatest affirmation I could ever receive because I see this personal as a battle between between good and evil, right?
	And let's get to the let's get to the malevolent force.
	You know and what I think high school battle between hold on, Al.
	You just meant you just said something to him.
	Let him respond.
	Okay.
	Yeah, Judith.
	Like you you see, you see yourself as part of a great cosmic battle between good and evil.
	And that's go to you guys.
	I do 16-year-old child.
	I mean, this is like this is the the level of discourse, bro.
	The uh that's why I don't take you guys too seriously, you know.
	Um, I'm coming on you deny you deny five Israelis in Jersey City setting up their cameras with foreknowledge before the first plane hit.
	You you think that that's that you dismiss that as conspiracy theory and ridiculous, and then you don't even explain how these same five people were put on an Israeli talk show, and they told the audience they were there to document the event.
	Okay, so come on, Judas.
	Okay, so you think that I just want to understand your view because people told me that you're low IQ, but I didn't believe that, right?
	It's just what you're saying.
	Yeah, the personal attacks.
	Hey, let's let's not let this escalate and get nasty with personal attacks, guys.
	Come on.
	People want to hear in or talking over each other, people want to hear uh uh uh intellectual debate.
	I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that.
	All right, it's late.
	It's uh long day just dealing with I didn't think I'd be talking about it.
	Edify me, edify me.
	I'm a low idea.
	We know you got the Ashkenazi's IQs over there, even though you're sophardic.
	We're just simple, we're just simpleton Goyam, we know you're hey, okay.
	All right.
	Your argument is that Israel sent some high school dropouts to the moving company to uh to to actually take to record the 9-11 building destruction, and then they these geniuses, these prodigies went on a talk show and admitted this to the whole world.
	And the whole world to Israel.
	And to Israel.
	So they went on a talk show in Israel, which they know will be recorded everywhere, and everyone will know.
	And you think that I'm insulted that you guys think that our Mossad is so sloppy to not only do something as dumb as 9-11, but also record it and also go on a talk show and tell everybody they did it.
	I mean, at some point do you ever question your own bullshit?
	See, this is this is what I got answers for those, but go ahead, Al.
	This is where you lose, right?
	This is where you lose because you come out here, Judas Maccabeas, and you defend and affirm the official narrative.
	You support you, you you stand up in affirmation of the Steven Spielberg, Schindler's List and Frank narrative.
	You are a pillar of the MSM, right?
	The conditioning, and we have come into the knowledge of the alternative narrative, the truth behind the bullshit.
	So, right off the bat, you know, low IQ or not, you lose.
	You're trying to maintain the matrix.
	People are waking up from the bullshit every day.
	Al, we're speaking past each other.
	Address the point about the five dancing Israelis being high school dropouts.
	Cause because I think that there's a good refutation for that.
	Did you refuse like I mean, yeah, go on.
	Well, I will, but I was just wondering what out what Al thought.
	What's that?
	What's that, Adam?
	He says, he says the dancing, it's an interesting argument, actually.
	I don't know if I've even heard it.
	That why would Mossad have some dumb young guys to go film the event and then be, I guess, so overjoyed that they were celebrating and being uh being low low-level henchmen, I uh I guess.
	You know, Dominic Suter Urban Moving Systems, it's like confirmed it was a Mossad front by our intelligence agencies, Judas.
	And and maybe he hired some guys, maybe they were maybe he said, hey, just maybe maybe he didn't even tell them to go film.
	They just knew about it and went up there and wanted to film it themselves.
	How do they why did they fail five lie detector tests, spend three months incarcerated in prison, right?
	This is this kind of dismissive stuff.
	It doesn't, it doesn't wash, Judas.
	You gotta deal with reality.
	The facts don't care about your feelings, my friend.
	Yeah.
	So I don't I don't see how you're addressing my point, but uh what's your point?
	That there that the Mossad would never do this.
	I can't put my head.
	Well, listen, the Mossad is not uh, you know, this uh pristine, unflappable, they don't make any mistakes.
	Didn't they get caught up in that operation in Jordan, and that's how Hamas got Sheikh Yassim back because they released the Masadis in Jordan?
	Mazad poisoned one of the Hamas leaders, and they got caught by Jordan.
	And supposed we have an agreement with Jordan that we don't do assassinations there, we send doctors to cure him, all right.
	That's not the amateur level of high school uh prank behavior that you're describing when you talk about Israelis.
	That's that's what I'm gonna say.
	Um the Mossad is not infallible, is the point.
	Yeah.
	Because on the one hand, Mossad is controlling the whole world and and and and has so exerced so much power and convinces everyone of um of weapons of mass destruction and control governments and and people, and probably started ISIS as well.
	Didn't Assad start ISIS?
	Because uh I I you I've heard you say things they supported, yeah, they supported ISIS.
	You don't think Mossad has power, Judas?
	Like you you said that you're fighting against your enemies, like they had you guys have power, you have influence, and you would argue you're really good at it, so it is out there.
	I agree that we have power, and I agree that we have good at it, and I'm not embarrassed that we Jews have power and we're good at it.
	What I am embarrassed of is that you think Jews are so incompetent that we're going to do 9-11 and send the dumbest morons to do it, and then we're gonna have them go on it's not only we're not gonna liquidate them.
	All we were tasked with is taking pictures.
	We don't even know they were tasked.
	They could have just said on the show, we we were there to film the event, which obviously, if they're there with a camera, that's not telling us anything we didn't know.
	Who knows if they were sent by Mossad?
	They were there.
	They maybe they were involved on some level or had some prior knowledge.
	That's the point.
	The the two brothers were were confirmed Mossad guys.
	So you you're really speaking from a point of ignorance here when you when you just dismiss this, Judas.
	Okay, okay.
	Now forget about that.
	Forget about the Odigo messages at what five 6:30, 5:30 in the morning, Adam.
	What was it?
	5 30, 6 30 in the morning, Judas.
	Yeah, Judas.
	Uh let's try to like shift something else, because you know, he Judas isn't going to convince any of our audience about 9-11.
	He's not prepared.
	You know, he's his knowledge is like as deep as jet fuel camp mute melt still beams.
	Can I get it?
	Which which can be disproved.
	That whole narrative can be disproved, Judas.
	That I haven't, I haven't really researched 9-11 enough because it can't interest me.
	You want to do if I need look, if uh if hanging out with you guys means I need to talk about 9-11 for hours, I'm gonna have to make a choice either to stop hanging out with you guys or to really learn all the conspiracy theories about 9-11 and how it works.
	You know, it's a choice I'm gonna have to make itself.
	Let's a documentary or two could do the job.
	You don't have to do too much work.
	But all right, go uh so I just wanted to bring up that as the as the reason that got me on the uh where I am now.
	Okay, in terms of so boom, hit him hit him with a good question, Al.
	Because I was insulated, I was insulated from it my whole life living in North Jersey.
	There are more Jews in the New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Tri-State area than there were in Israel up until very recently, just a few years now.
	Okay.
	So the this I was insulated from all of this stuff.
	I did not realize any of the shenanigans and the subversion, and let's get to the malevolence, right?
	Okay, hold on, hold on, Al, I got I haven't I have a sincere question too.
	In your view that like there's a cabal of people, so you already established you don't think it's all the Jews, right?
	But do you think it's Jews, or do you think Gentiles are involved as well?
	Do you think uh of course listen, like the Rockefellers, the Bill Gates, the Jeff Bezos, Christian Zionist Freemasons, the Freemasons, yeah.
	You know, we're getting somewhere.
	So you basically believe, and this is not an uncommon belief, you know, that there's a and and it's not entirely unsu that there's very powerful people in the world that um pull strings, and we don't always know the reason thing happens.
	So we're told that we're going into Iraq for 9-11, and in fact, it could I mean uh we're going to Iraq because of 9-11 or because of weapons of mass destruction, when in reality the uh military industrial complex has other interests involved, or you pull it Israel, someone else will say military industrial complex, but it's not like you're not on to something.
	My symbiotic, it's symbiotic.
	The military industrial complex loves Israel because Israel keeps the Americans busy with war after war after war.
	Let him finish the point, Al.
	Let him finish the point.
	We're finished.
	We're letting each other finish points, and then at good cutoff areas we switch, have a back and forth.
	And I still have uh some comments still about 9-11.
	I gotta respond to, but go ahead.
	Finish that thought, Judas.
	So I'm I said a foot.
	I'm I'm actually genuinely interested in your in understanding how guys like you think.
	So you think that it's a symbiotic relationship.
	You think there's a uh international conspiracy theory of powerful figures all over the world, right?
	And think that Israel is or Jews are 100% of part of it, 90% of it, 20%, like what percent of all of this is coming from us.
	Uh uh who knows the percentage.
	It's not it's not the the the majority, of course not.
	It's it's a very small handful, But it doesn't matter, right?
	Because these folks, these folks that have been go ahead.
	Go on, go on.
	I'm sorry, go on.
	Continue.
	Okay.
	I I'm talking like the world Jewish Congress, right?
	The the Henry Kissingers, the Lauders, the Paul Singers, the Bronfman family.
	I'm talking about these type of people that have tremendous influence, transatlantic uh interests, you know, multi um uh UN, you know, the the forerunners of the U.S. Who else is a scattered and and let's not forget, let's not forget that the the the Bolshevik communism, right?
	Which was a Jewish enterprise.
	Well, I'm gonna respond to that, but I have a question to you.
	Do you think that um Joe Biden and Bill Clinton are involved in this?
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	So if Joe Biden and Bill Clinton, and do you think George Bush was involved in this?
	Of course he was.
	So how come I don't see anybody like you guys uh have a whole show designed to say things like look, you got a white guy involved, you got another white guy and another white guy.
	So doesn't that prove that white people are not all white people, but the white people, like you say, the Jews, right?
	They're out to destroy the world, they're out to do globalism.
	Like, what makes you um what makes you so obsessed with us?
	I ask you this question, I ask I ask everyone this question, like what is it about us?
	You guys, you guys are the hidden hand.
	You you guys are the uh the the puppet masters.
	That's that's what you the control, right?
	APAC can be Congress and the Christian Zionists.
	Right.
	The Christian Zionists do whatever you want.
	You can't do enough for Israel.
	It's the opposite.
	Uh someone who deals with Christian Zionists all the time.
	The Christian Zionists are the ones funding Israel and trying to tell Israel to do things that they want us to us to do.
	Uh like you look at the relationship of the United States and Israel as if the the the tail is wagging the dog, but it's really the dog that's wagging the tail.
	We're the smaller country, and America is this great empire that in exchange for all sorts of favors that they do for us, whether it's supporting the UN or military support, we need to basically follow their directives.
	You know, we defend you guys at the UN and the the rest of the world hates us because we defend you at the UN.
	But but the reason I understand that, but there's a uh those people that do that feel that there's a benefit to them in defending Israel against the Arabs.
	They feel they feel the Arabs can't be trusted, they're not stable, whatever.
	I'm not saying it's good or bad.
	And I don't even as an Israeli, I realize very much the price we pay for American support.
	I I'm happy to have friendship, I like Americans as people, I've lived in America, I had citizenship.
	I don't have an issue with you guys.
	You still vote in America?
	No.
	The political support that could you believe in vote, you know.
	Could you?
	I could, yeah, because in America you're allowed to vote.
	Like Israeli citizens are not allowed to vote for Israeli uh elections if they're uh if they're in if it's not Israel, but Americans can.
	So if I went to the embassy and voted, I could vote.
	Wow.
	Can I can I just read you one one quote here from Rabbi?
	Not yet.
	I want to read you a quote from Rabbi Watan.
	Bro, I'll listen to your quote.
	I want to respond to your points.
	You made points.
	I don't want to be like, okay.
	So so that so that was my question.
	Like, yeah, how come you know it's not all this?
	But the other thing I wanted to say was you mentioned um, you know, Bolsheviks, and you mentioned all these other things, like oh Jews did Bolshevism.
	It's a common trope.
	But you realize that the biggest enemy of the Bolsheviks was Israel.
	Like besides for the first vote, wait, I'll make my point.
	There was a vote in the UN where uh Stalin insisted that we vote pro-Israel.
	But once that happened, the the Bolshevik the uh Russian communist government, not only did they take the side of Israel's enemy in every single war and arm them, they also partook in actual aerial battles against Israel's Air Force and lost, by the way, but it's a separate point, right?
	Today it's uh the the the all those um aerial battles are coming out because Egyptians were sorry, bro, but Egyptians weren't competent enough to mend the Russian MiGs.
	So the Russians did a few uh did a few of those battles and they also lost.
	So I was anyway, point is that I mean it's har it's hard to do an aerial battle when your whole air when your whole air force is destroyed preemptively.
	Let me let me let me get to this one point here.
	Hold on, hold on, out of an allegation.
	And I hear it all the time.
	You cut out a bunch there.
	Can you back it up, Judas?
	Yeah, I'll back it up.
	You make claim, you argue that um Bolshevism is a Jewish conspiracy.
	And that's a common claim made by neonazis, it's a common claim made by white, you know, all these like white nationalists that hate us.
	And the reality is that the biggest enemy of Israel for the first after after a few months of Israel's existence, Israel's biggest enemy was Soviet Russia up until Soviet Russia fell.
	They armed all of our That's why this that's why the Soviet Union uh was the first country to to uh acknowledge Israel as a yeah, it was it was funded by Jewish bankers in America, the the Bolsheviks, and then they made anti-Semitism illegal.
	But there is some truth because the Orthodox community there, hold on, let me finish.
	Orthodox community considered Bolsheviks Amalek.
	I read that in Gersham Sholem.
	Not only did the Bolsheviks uh back down from supporting Israel in the first vote, they supported the Arabs in every opportunity.
	They trained Mahmoud Abbas.
	Mahmoud Abbas, the head of the Palestinian authority, his uh dissertation in college was in Moscow University about how the Holocaust was a scam.
	I'm sure you would like that.
	It was a Holocaust denial um paper.
	He did it in Moscow.
	All the entire PLO when it started was largely funded and trained by Russian uh Russians.
	Okay, 40 uh that they were were they setting up both sides or but but didn't Stalin also vote right away to support the state of Israel?
	After the first few months of Israel's existence, the Soviet Union flipped and decided to bet on the Arabs because they listen, listen.
	Yeah, uh I get where you're saying here, but it's completely false.
	The Soviet Union was run by Jews.
	Benjamin Friedman, uh, in 1961, very famous speech in 1961, told laid it out for us that the highest level whistleblower, a guy who had meetings with Woodrow Wilson and Bernard Baruch and Samuel Untermeier and Jacob Schiff and all the movers and shakers of the early 20th century, right?
	He gave us the the lowdown.
	He said the Soviet Union is run by 40,000 little Jews in in Moscow.
	Okay.
	And it what what happened in the first 1905 revolution, right?
	Communists is largely Jewish, although secular that the we're talking secular Jews who here's my question, okay, uh, Judas.
	So you're arguing that like the Bolsheviks, they were Jewish, they were funded by Jews, but and they made anti-Semitism illegal, but they persecuted the religious Jews.
	Did they persecute them worse than the Christians?
	They persecuted religious Jews, they persecuted Zionists, they persecuted any Jew that was not a communist.
	Their um allegiance was to the Bolshevik movement, it was not to Jews.
	Okay, it's funny how all the churches got burned, raised, burned, and raised to the ground, and none of the synagogues did, isn't it?
	But listen, I I want to read this one quote, okay, from Rabbi Walk.
	Hold on, hold on, Al, hold on.
	You guys can't talk over each other.
	Fit finish the point, Judas.
	And then before we get to the quote, because we're still we're still on this topic.
	I don't want to move past the the because largely pushed back from a family uh and of and a tradition of Jews who always hated the Soviet Union.
	We always saw them as a worst enemy of Israel and of the Jewish nation as well as the Jewish religion.
	Um we suffered greatly under them.
	Like the one of the biggest humanitarian disasters in the in the last century was Jews in in in in the Soviet Union that were not allowed to make aliyah and go back to go to their homeland to Israel because the Soviets were worried that those Jews will serve in the military, which they did, and helped fight the Arabs who were there, uh who was the allies of the Soviets.
	So for you to turn around and say that since there were a lot of Jews in the founding of the communist party, which is true, but there's reasons why there were a lot of Jews in the communist party in 1905 and even after, because Israel didn't exist yet, number one, and communism was a new thing,
	it hasn't been tried yet and communism was promising to bring equality and to end uh anti-Semitism which was the norm under Tsarist Russia so on this in Tsar's Russia Jews couldn't go to St. Petersburg Jews couldn't go to Moscow so the communists were promising to give Jews equality and many Jews fell for that bullshit but they didn't they didn't continue to advocate for Jewish interests they advocated for Bolshevik interests as soon as they advocated for anything specifically Jewish whether it's Zionism or
	circumcision or any like jewish thing jewish religion what happened they got persecuted they got sent to siberia they got executed in some cases and that's why you had a whole refuse movement right as well as is extremely anti-soviet it's been anti-soviet since 1949 and um and and and we consider them the enemy and is that why and proudly claimed that he was a bolshevik yeah yeah wasn't weren't all the early zionist like bolsheviks from from the soviet union not bolsheviks
	there were many of them were russian jews who were socialists but they had a zionist socialist vision of it was an ethnic socialism so it's kind of like you guys talk about a third positionist right it was in a way it was like third positions like we jews we stick together we love each other we have solidarity so we're willing to have universal health care because rich jew doesn't care to pay high taxes so that a poor jew can have health care what was the idea behind it kibbutzim was was was uh were these communes that
	other nations didn't do was one of the few socialist experiments that at the time was extremely successful they were not bolsheviks there was but from our point of view judas the bolshevik and zionist are both jewish it's all like you know marx and and and hess it was a it was a ruse it was a jewish ruse and let me finish this quote please okay go go ahead do the quote rabbi walked in it explains it lays it out beautifully rabbi who
	jubilee who communism internationalism the universal brotherhood of man the emancipation of the working class and the and the human society it is with these spiritual weapons that the Jews will conquer the world and the human race the races and the nations will cheerfully submit to the spiritual power of Judaism and all will become Jews.
	This is the dialectic in full effect East West controlled manipulated Zionism is is burnt from the this frankenstein monster and Israel is is sent to primacy to ascension as the nation state capital of this utopian Jewish new world order.
	Al, if anybody I know I don't know this quote, I don't know who this rabbi is It sounds like something no one ever heard Besides for, you know, maybe on 4chan or in Stormfront It could be, yeah, I haven't confirmed that There are fake
	quotes, it's possible it could be fake There's plenty that aren't fake though that are enough to bring up Go ahead That's the kind of thing that if you said that in a synagogue You would be laughed, they wouldn't even get mad They would just mock you for saying that It's
	considered, people speak like that But people who are mentally ill speak like that today It doesn't mean that in 1905 or 1910 Some people may be at high hopes for communism I don't know I know that there were cases of Jews who were duped into believing That communism will solve the Jewish problem But they were anti-Zionist And for the most
	part, they were anti-religious Julius Rosenberg All the Soviet spying Communism is very Jewish That's like kind of indisputable It's commonly known It's commonly known It's commonly known That many Jews I'm going to concede That an inordinate amount of Jews Were involved in the Communist Party Thank you And those are statistics that can be denied
	However, I'd like to If you allow me to I'd like to introduce a little bit of context To why that's normal And why that's understandable Do you realize that in Prior to the October of Revolution, um, Jews in Russia were not allowed to go to St. Petersburg or to Moscow.
	They were not allowed to attend universities.
	The only way they can go to Moscow was if they were prostitutes, by the way.
	That was a very humiliating law.
	Like if you were prostitute, you can go.
	Otherwise, you Jews were not allowed into these cities without special uh permits.
	There were these Jews were um, and by the way, I'm not even here to say Tsar was so bad.
	The reason they put out these anti-Semitic laws was because then they many anti-Semites were open about it.
	They were scared that the Jews have strong solidarity.
	They were scared that the Jews were considered at the time to have higher IQ, and if they let them into the universities and they let them into the capitals, they'll take over the universities, they'll take over Moscow, and they're gonna be the richest oligarchs in the country.
	Okay, well not why would they ever think that?
	Do you think these restrictions that were placed on the Jews might have been after the 1905 failed revolution where they tried to take over this from the Tsar, the country?
	I'm not trying to read you.
	I'm trying to go deeper, okay?
	These laws existed in the early 1800s.
	That's when they said it's not something I the reason they happened.
	I'm not looking at it right now as a Jew whose butthurt that his people were pressed.
	I'm looking at it like genetically, I'm looking at it politically, and I understand.
	I read anti-Semitic literature, like I talked to you guys, and these Russian anti-Semites were actually smart, they were not conspiracy theorists.
	They were scared, and rightfully so, that if they gave Jews the same freedom they give Russians, the Jews are going to take over Russia.
	They're gonna be so rich, they're gonna be so wealthy.
	They didn't consider them uh manipulative and evil, but they thought that the Jews had strong solidarity and high IQs and a lot of drive.
	They were feared the Jews had more ambition than regular Russians.
	Weren't they Christians?
	They didn't have Christian criticisms.
	Some of them were not, it wasn't about Christianity.
	And it's another thing that you you you could you kind of like sometimes forget, Adam, that religion is you look at religion like uh literally, but religions are just how humans organize themselves to survive better as a group.
	That's the purpose of religion.
	So whenever the group survivability against religion happens, people go with group survival instinct.
	And and the Russian group survival instinct was in order for us Russians to remain dominant, we can't allow the Jews to rise.
	And that's why you had it.
	That's why historically you had uh so many Jews when communism as an idea came out, so many Jews went along with it because they thought that that would emancipate them and that would allow them to be equals.
	Now, uh, sure enough, when that happened, what happens when you give Jews freedom after so many years?
	And don't forget, Jews were educated, they were intelligent, they would assimilate.
	They some of them assimilated, but you know what happened?
	Yeah, but not always, there's Russians can can tell who's Jewish and who isn't.
	They didn't assimilate that easily.
	So they became a dominant force in the communist party.
	And there were struggles between Jews, non-Jews, communists, uh, both Bolsheviks, Mensheviks.
	When you guys, I'm gonna concede many of them were Jews, but they weren't doing it.
	Uh wasn't a Jewish agenda.
	That's where I disagree with you.
	It was just humans trying to get their rights.
	You know what a Jewish agenda is?
	Zionism.
	Yeah, we're gonna go back to Israel, we're gonna take our land back.
	That's a Jewish agenda.
	You know what's a Jewish agenda?
	Religion.
	You know, we're gonna follow God's covenant and he's gonna redeem us.
	That's a Jewish agenda.
	Took the words right out of my mouth, Judas.
	The Torah is like a blueprint for like world domination.
	Okay, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Let's talk about that.
	Let's talk about we'll we'll bring that up.
	But he that's what he's addressing right now.
	I uh yeah.
	Can we?
	I'm gonna I'm gonna shut up in a minute.
	I'm thinking No, go ahead.
	You have the floor.
	Right now, right now we're talking about the Soviet Union, the Russian Bolshevik pre-revolution.
	Right, yeah, that's that's where he's on.
	Okay, let's talk about, let's talk about since we're here.
	How about the the genocide of Ukraine, right?
	22 million conservative estimate, destroyed genocided, right?
	And the 60, the 66 million killed in Russia between 1917 and 1962.
	Okay.
	Alexander Sol, Alexander Soldanitsin very famously stated there was nothing Russian about the Bolshevik revolution.
	That was a Jewish invasion.
	Kaganovich.
	And they took over the country.
	And then the Soviet Union and obviously the horrors.
	And Yagoda.
	Why is that so conspicuously absent from the history book?
	Yeah.
	All we hear about is a Holocaust, but never, never that.
	Guys, listen, I'm I'm not, I can't answer for everything.
	I'm just gonna review just repeat the previous point, and I'll just short.
	Um the the reality is that communism is a secular uh social movement that included a lot of Jews at the time and still includes too many Jews.
	I think all communists should be thrown out of helicopters.
	Like who is Karl Marx wasn't an Eskimo?
	Yeah, but Karl Marx's opinion, he absolutely despised the Jews as a race.
	What he wrote about Jews was similar to the kind of thing you said.
	He didn't see he didn't do it as a Jew.
	He felt that religion was an opiate of the masses.
	He felt that wasn't he influenced by Judaism.
	Of course he was.
	He was a Freemason, and he also he also uh advocated for the genocide of the Slavic people.
	I don't know, he was a piece of shit, but yeah, this is this is what we're dealing with.
	I'm not gonna defend Marx, but I will say is that there's besides for his ethnic background, culturally and religiously, there's nothing Jewish about Marx.
	What you could say is Jewish about him is that it's a perversion of Jewish ideas of justice, like the prophets in the Tanakh, the prophets were always um chastising the kings for being corrupt, and for was Karl Marx a Jew.
	Yes or no?
	Just ethnically a Jew, but Karl Marx, thank you, an anti-Semite like yourself.
	His view on Jews was very similar to yours, Al.
	That's how he viewed Jews.
	If you look in Karl Marx's writing on Jews, his writings about Jews are very similar to yours, ironically.
	So there's something so you're probably more similar to Marx than I am in that matter.
	I don't I haven't seen I haven't seen Mark Karl Marx's anti-Semitic writings.
	If you would if you would uh be kind enough to pass those along, we'd be great.
	Oh no, those are well known now.
	Really?
	Yeah, he wrote about the Jews, he criticized them, but but he was influenced by by Judeum.
	And what about Moses Hess and Karl Marx?
	I was gonna get to Moses Hess.
	Yeah.
	Let's let's first Zionist, right?
	Moses Hess, Jeru uh Roman Jerusalem.
	But go ahead, go ahead, Judas, please.
	Uh I uh Judas's uh thoughts on these are I think the odd uh they're intriguing to me hearing these explanations.
	Go ahead.
	So I'm I'm I'm gonna explain, right?
	That the and I need you guys to like uh at least um understand my view if you don't agree, right?
	Jews, there's an ethnic element to our nation.
	There's like an ethnic Jew, okay?
	And then there's culturally Jewish.
	The person who is ethnically Jewish, but he says, I don't want anything to do with my nation, I don't want to marry my I don't want to continue the Jewish bloodline, I don't want to continue the Jewish culture.
	I have nothing to do with that.
	I'm a Frenchman or I'm an Englishman or I'm a uh a Marxist, right?
	You can call them Jews, but they don't see themselves as Jews really.
	So the Marxist Jews or communist Jews in Russia, they were the first ones to persecute viciously the Zionists and the religious Jews, all right.
	Now, in the early formation of the Marxist principles, it took like it's easy now in retrospect to see how evil it was.
	But I don't know if the three of us lived in the uh early 1900s, if we would have foreseen how evil um Marxism would end up being.
	Today it's easy.
	Today to be a Marxist, you need to be either insane or wicked.
	But back then it wasn't so simple because it hasn't been tried, which you had back then.
	You mentioned uh Al, um you mentioned like the the Ukrainian uh you can call it genocide, it's just a mass starvation, which was horrific.
	That was one of the sins of Marxism.
	It wasn't there wasn't a Jew that said let's kill Ukrainians, it was Marxism not working.
	They didn't the plan wasn't um I have to like read about that more, but it wasn't a it wasn't it's not the same thing as Hitler saying uh that we have to have a final solution for the Jews.
	It wasn't say that solution, yeah.
	That's that's a fallacy.
	But what what about the ritual murder of uh czar Nicholas?
	Wasn't there like a Purim connection of that?
	Yeah, no, Zar Nicholas was killed by communists, he was he was murdered by he and his family, were murdered by communists who broke into the palace and did what they did.
	There's nothing ritual about it.
	People who do rituals, Jews who are ritual Jews.
	First of all, we don't do ritual murder.
	That's the scam.
	It's a scam.
	That's not true.
	But Jews who do rituals do not participate.
	Yom Kippur is ritual murder.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What's the ritual murder in Young Kippur?
	Where they have a ritual where they kill the goat to uh as a scapegoat.
	There's a newsweek article.
	Jews may have killed Russia's last czar in ritual murder investigators' claim.
	And and ritual ritual murder is not is not uh uh uh a fallacy.
	That's real.
	It's it's it's documented, it's been you know, it's been going on for a while, millennia.
	It it predates the Jews.
	Yeah, there was Kabbalistic, they they put Kabbalistic stuff on the wall.
	The Jews participated in in Moloch worship throughout Asia Minor and the Near East and North Africa.
	So this is all this is all incontrovertible facts, along with everybody else.
	It's not specific to the Jews.
	The fact that you call it incontrovertible fact doesn't necessarily mean it's so.
	But what I could tell you is Jews that do rituals for the last 2,000 years are very passive, they're not into fighting.
	The people who who rebelled against the Tsar and went to war against the Tsar were not the religious Jews, right?
	These were Jews who left the Shteth, left the hater, they rebelled against the rabbis and said, We're gonna make a new Russia.
	If you watch the there's even a nice mini-series about Trotsky, and you watch it, they have a very nice scene where Trotsky's dad is a religious Jew, and he's speaking to him saying, What the what are you doing, kid?
	It's like, yeah, we're making Russia and we Jews are gonna be free.
	Do you think Jews are gonna be free in the new Russia?
	It's gonna be worse than the Tsar ever did.
	You're we're lucky to have the Tsar, that's what he told.
	And it's true.
	That's that was the that was the position of traditional Jewry.
	Okay, like you always talk about how Chabad is bad, and you know, they said Noah Hyde laws, you guys excess over it.
	Do you know that when um Napoleon started invading Russia?
	The Chabad movement sided with the Tsar.
	There were many uh many of the educated secular Jews sided with Napoleon.
	He's just not loyal to the Tsar.
	No, no, no.
	The reason is because they wanted the the Jews wanted anti-Semitic leadership because then that Jews wouldn't assimilate, and then they could they could say, Oh, we're we're being persecuted.
	They could make Aliyah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They they were instigators in pro-Grams, as was Jacob Frank, right?
	Doing with it, what they infiltrated in the Catholic church in Poland.
	He was he was he was he was antagonizing the rabbis and and and getting whipping people up into anti-Semitic fits to make it uncomfortable for Jews, so they would leave, right?
	And this happened repeatedly over and over again throughout Europe, right?
	What did Herzl say?
	The the anti-Semites will be our best friends.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Respond to that, Judas.
	I'll respond to that.
	Yeah, so there's a lot of I'm just gonna point out that 90% of the Herzl uh quotes that I get sent to on Twitter are, and I'm telling you to the Twitter mob, they're all forgeries.
	I actually am a big fan of Hertz, so I love Hertzel very much.
	I've read all his writings, right?
	As well as Jobatinski, so I can I could probably guess which one is uh true which one is forged and which one is an emendation of what he really wrote.
	Herzl's position was very clear and it was very true.
	Herzl felt that the Jewish people, right, uh have become over thousands of years, have become basically a race.
	Okay, and these Jews that in their time in Europe is running out, they're gonna get wiped out in Europe if they stay, and they have to leave.
	And he said it's not a time to try to convince anti-Semites to like us, it's too late.
	This relationship is dead.
	It's not the time to tell the Tsar to release restrictions a little bit so Jews can get into Moscow because if you knew if Jews get into Moscow and they become successful, the Russians are gonna hate them even more, and you're gonna have more pogroms like you had in Poland and Ukraine and so on.
	And it wasn't a and Herzel was very mature in the sense that he didn't he didn't engage in the blame game.
	He didn't sit around and say, oh, poor Jews, we're getting hurt, so therefore we need to uh save ourselves.
	He was very mature about it.
	He said it's it's inevitable for our race, the nation of Israel, to survive long term among other nations.
	We're a separate nation, and therefore we have to have our own state.
	And that governs everything he said.
	He was willing, yes, he was willing to unite.
	He was willing to work together with anti-Semites to create a national home for the Jews in Israel so that all the Jews can go home to their national homeland, which we anyway wanted to do for 2,000 years.
	We've never stopped making the claim that we want to go back to Elet Israel, to Zion.
	We never went away from that.
	We held on to that dream forever.
	And Herzl just said, let's make it happen.
	It's the age of nationalism, the world is shifting.
	Maybe we can make it happen.
	And he started a movement that made it happen.
	So yes, was he willing to negotiate with anti-Semites?
	He was, and he did.
	And I'm glad that he did.
	You know why?
	Because if my ancestors and you were hold on now, hold on, Al.
	You weren't exactly two reasons I thank Herzl every day, even though he was not an observant Jew.
	Okay.
	Number one, me as a Jew, I will never live in dignity outside my own land.
	So even if there was no anti-Semitism, right?
	I want to live in my land because I see it as my land.
	That's my orientation.
	I always saw we, my grandfather, his grandfather, all the way back to the Judean kings.
	We saw Israel as our land.
	We never gave up the claim.
	And we remind ourselves 10 times a day in a hundred different ways that we're not true Hebrews, not true Judeans until we go back to our land.
	You can say it's silly, you can disagree, but that's who we are.
	You can't take that away from us.
	And also, in addition to that, look, my sisters from Syria and Iraq, I can imagine what it would be if we had a half a million Jews in Mosul in the last few years.
	What would have happened to us?
	Like happened to the Yazidis.
	I don't want to live under you, Gentiles anymore.
	I'm sorry.
	I want to get along with you.
	I want to be your friend, but I don't want to live in your countries under your rule.
	I don't want to be a dymmy.
	I don't want to have to uh uh deal with the price we need to pay for being a minority in other people's lands.
	We want to have our own space where we can pursue our own destiny.
	That's the core of Zionism.
	Go ahead, Al.
	That's because you are a self-obsessed, malevolent group.
	And it comes from your theology.
	You are basically Talmudic Judaism is crypto-Satanism.
	You guys do not you do not see good and evil, uh good and evil, right and wrong as objective, right?
	You see it as subjective.
	You can you can behave one way towards uh Jews that you cannot behave towards Gentiles.
	You can kill the Gentile, but don't kill the Jew.
	You can steal from the Gentile, don't steal from the Jew.
	You can lie, you can deceive, you guys turn vices into virtues, you invert everything, right, to suit your purposes, to advance your personal agenda, so you would have the war, you would have the world bleed, right?
	And kill countless hundreds of millions, so you can have your homeland.
	That's okay.
	It's all about you, isn't it?
	So I I would do anything to get my homeland, but I'm not embarrassed with that.
	Right.
	Yeah, I'll do anything.
	Okay, I want to respond.
	It does not mean that I'm amoral, doesn't mean I don't believe in morality, and it doesn't mean that um I think that what we can do to we can do anything to Gentiles.
	I don't subscribe to any of those things.
	I'm a nationalist like any other nationalist.
	Meaning putting my nation before others is like putting my wife before other women and my children before other children, my tribe before other tribes.
	I would advise you, sir, and anyone watching, to look out for your own people first.
	Because if you don't look out for your people, bro, who's gonna look out for your people?
	Americans, if you don't look out for yourselves, who's gonna look out for you?
	This is not a thing that only Jews should have, and it's not a zero-sum game.
	I'm sorry, I'm not ashamed of it.
	You did not address you didn't address the moral relativism you guys engage in.
	The moral judgments, it's okay for me to do this, but not for you.
	The double standards, right?
	The exception, the Israeli Zionist exception.
	I mean, come on, deal with the facts.
	Is there a golden rule?
	Are all people equal?
	Or are we beasts in human form that only exists to serve the people of Israel?
	I don't agree with that.
	But that's what it says, though.
	Okay, so we've discussed that in the previous thing, and I can adjust that.
	But before we get to that, I'd like to just point out that the very idea that I put my people before others, I am proud of.
	I'm just repeating that.
	I'm proud of that, and I encourage you all to do the same.
	Put your own people before others.
	You do, but Jews around the world in European countries don't let us have share the same national type of pride.
	I'm gonna I'm let me just address the point by point, right?
	Now, regarding um, I'm gonna address that as well.
	I didn't forget regarding the idea that Jews are immoral, that isn't true.
	On the political stage, there's different rules of morality than individual stage.
	That's true, but that's true also for all nations.
	Are there among Jews racist supremacists?
	You know, bro, there's racist supremacists among Arabs, among Chinese and among white people.
	Okay, it's exist all over.
	Am I gonna make it right?
	Not make it right, and I will condemn it just like you'll condemn it, right?
	Now, are there Jews out there that are globalists that are against nationalism and against national pride and against countries looking out for their own interests?
	Absolutely.
	We have them here in my neighborhood too, here in Israel.
	We have Jewish-run NGOs, we have guys like George Soros, you guys talk about him all the time.
	In Israel, he's considered public enemy number one.
	Why?
	Because he funds organizations in Israel that do the same thing that you they do in Europe because he's a globalist and he's an anti-nationalist, and he wants the world to be one where it's like you know, no borders and love and peace and all that.
	But um that that's something that Jewish nationalists have to deal with just like uh Gentile nationalists.
	And if you guys want to turn it on us and say that we're uh orchestrating it, that's unfair because I am in a way, I am in the same position as any other nationalist.
	I have to deal with globalist pressures, and I have to deal with pressures of degeneracy and so on, just like all of uh the rest of you need to.
	Now, can you find some ancient text uh written in this in the Bronze Age that sounds terrible to today's era?
	Yes.
	Are there people that believe in that?
	Yes, but does that mean that that's the national policy of the state of Israel, which is a secular democratic state?
	Obviously not.
	That's ridiculous.
	Netanyahu said that Israel was based on the Talmud.
	Yeah, it's it's bronze age, but I I hear I hear rabbis every day talking about this stuff.
	They you guys have been at this for thousands of years, trying to delineate and differentiate yourself from the non-Jews and pat yourselves on the back about how much better you are than the non-Jews.
	You wake up in the morning and you thank God for not making you a Gentile.
	Come on!
	You have to deal with the reality.
	The reality is this is a supremacist hate-filled ideology that does not place any value on non-Jewish life.
	That's why we see the massacres in Gaza, the the inhuman the inhumanity in Palestine, you kill little kids, you murder little kids.
	People don't hate you because it's innately anti-Semitic, they hate you because you murder babies.
	And you stole the land to murder babies because they might grow up and do you harm.
	Okay.
	Can you imagine uh such a despicable ideology that rationalizes child murder?
	Okay, so I'm gonna respond to all of your emotional outbursts, okay, as rationally as we can.
	I guess we get fired up.
	It's fine, it's fine.
	Yeah, I just understand the you said earlier before I start, you you made a point about uh was there a point that I promised I'm gonna get to and I didn't get to yet.
	Uh Jews not letting us share similar national pride is the last thing I said, I think.
	I think I addressed that.
	I addressed it.
	I said this in guys uh yeah, I wanted to address that that I was right about the Napoleon and Tsar and supporting and not wanting Jews to assimilate and preferring an anti-Semitic environment.
	It was what Napoleon emanciated the Jews.
	Yeah, Napoleon was for was pro-Truition.
	You wanted to emancipate us, but my point in that was just to point out to you that um our um existence in in according to the Hertzlian worldview, right?
	Like Napoleon was a great emancipator.
	He had this view that we can settle the Jewish problem and Jews can become real French people.
	And there were and Jews in France loved it.
	And they joined the French military, and there was a point where Jews were overrepresented, even in units and French military.
	And here you have a completely assimilated Jew named Dreyfus, right?
	Being a Dreyfus, being accused of treason, falsely, according to them at the time.
	But the crowds were screaming anti-Semitic slogans.
	And for Herzl, that was a turning point.
	Because here he is an assimilated Austrian wealthy Jew.
	And he thinks he's part of European high society.
	And here you he's I get it.
	He wanted to work with the anti-Semites.
	The solution to the Jewish question was uh was Zionism, Palestine.
	We we know.
	Address Al's points.
	What was it?
	So let me adjust.
	Yeah.
	Almost uh that you know Israel kills babies, and Israel is just a Jews.
	So I'll start with killing babies because that's like worse than stealing land killing babies, terrible.
	So where are you going?
	No, I gotta turn the air conditioning.
	It's it's hot as shit in here, man.
	And I had to turn I have to turn it on.
	Go ahead.
	You're getting heated.
	So I'll say this, right?
	Um first of all, you know the Middle East, you've lived in Egypt, you lived in Lebanon, right?
	If you look at and I'm not saying they're too wrong, Zamaker, right?
	But if you just take a look at Palestinian behavior in Jordan, all right, which is 80% Palestinian, black September.
	How did King Hussein respond to minor acts of acts of Palestinian terror?
	I'm not gonna belittle it, but not much different than what they're doing today.
	In one month, he killed over 20,000 Palestinians, right?
	And ran them out of Jordan.
	Uh the whole PLO movement.
	Okay.
	And Israel in its entire conflict didn't get to that number yet.
	All right.
	Assad in Lebanon.
	Do you know how many Palestinians were massacred in these conflicts that would take me two hours to explain what they're fighting over?
	Now that doesn't mean that it's okay, but you need to take into account that Israel is dealing with a I'm gonna get to the land theft in a minute, but I just want to talk about like how many people killed in the last Gaza war, 200 people, 250 people.
	Why is there a Gaza war?
	So I'll I'll explain.
	Why are you illegally blockading Gaza?
	This is the second Gaza War.
	Actually, um a first hand experiences of both wars because me and my family live within uh Rocket um uh within rocket reach of Gaza, this house.
	I'm not at my farm right now, my apartment in the south.
	Um, we get rocketed every time Hamas guy's wife has a period.
	We get uh we get rockets, and uh what happens when we get rockets, we get it, we hear an alarm, and we all need to run into uh uh a shelter.
	And here since my children were babies, they know that within 20 seconds or 30 seconds, depending on the kind of rocket, right?
	Um that we have to we have a short amount of time, but it was two in the morning or seven at night to get into a shelter, and you hear and watch and smell rockets fall all over.
	We don't need the emotional the emotional appeal to the bunkers.
	You're in a tough why are they shooting rockets at you though?
	Because Zionism is inherently wrong and supremacist.
	That's where we're at.
	That's another logic, yeah.
	That's my response to your bunkers talk.
	And and I feel I do feel bad for you.
	I don't want you people to have to l uh live like that at all.
	Listen, listen, if if you're gonna bring up dead babies, I want to talk about my act, they're not your babies, these are my babies like that live in my house.
	Like I'm talking about my children.
	I have to shuffle all of them, and I have quite a few into uh a rocket-proof bunker with race of reality.
	Why'd you bring your family there from New York then?
	First of all, I was born in Jerusalem, and so were my children were born in Israel.
	So I didn't bring anyone from New York, number one.
	But even if I can I can justify coming from New York as well.
	But I want to say that uh the response the Gaza war, the previous one and this one was a response to Hamas, making daily life in Israel impossible, and also killing people.
	They didn't kill as many as they'd like to, because we set up a system, whether it's the Iron Dome or Rocket shelters to get away from it.
	But if you're too old to make it to a rocket shelter environment, your hearing aid isn't working, and you you'll die because the rocket's gonna fall in your in your head and kill you.
	This happened, 10 people died, or 12 people, whatever.
	By the way, a third of them were Arab Israelis, but I digress.
	And from the 200 that died, more Arabs and Gaza died from their own rockets that misfired than ones that came here.
	And it's an it's a number they take into account all the time.
	Now, am I happy?
	I don't know about that, but anyway, Judas, I you know, you you talk about how they're making life, they're making life so uh difficult for you in Israel.
	Um I'm not finishing addressing the point.
	I want to finish addressing the point, and then you have another point, and I know what's coming.
	So you're gonna try to try to make the points quicker, Judas.
	You're go you're going through for a long time.
	Yeah, it's like make the point.
	Make we want to hear the points, just make them quick.
	The point is um if you look at it um individually, every incursion into Gaza and every bombing of Gaza since the disengagement was 150% justified simply because you can't bomb civilians and expect not to have a response.
	Okay, that's what I want to say about that.
	And as far as a body count, try not to lob rockets from department buildings, and then the power buildings won't get bombed.
	All right, we don't we have army bases where we shoot rockets from, not in the rally problem buildings, we keep them separate because we don't want our civilian population involved.
	I would recommend Gazans and all of our other enemies to do the same thing if they care about the civilian population, if they don't not we can go to the next point.
	Every everyone needs to accommodate you guys, right?
	Everyone needs to accommodate Israel.
	Dude, do this, do that, stand up, get down, get on your knees, beg, roll over, play dead.
	You know, it's funny, right?
	It's so it's so incredibly difficult living in Israel under the battle rocket.
	I mean the rocket attacks of Hamas, but you know, you know what's you know what's a paradise?
	Gaza.
	They got it made there, boy.
	Let me tell you, there's no inconveniences there.
	They are clean, drinking water.
	Uh uh 100% of the time they have electricity.
	They're living like kings in Gaza.
	It's such a wonderful place.
	They're not being inconvenienced at all by the Zion.
	What if what if it were the Jews that were in Gaza?
	The level, the the Chutzpah level is laughable, right?
	Uh okay, go go ahead, Judas.
	Right?
	And we're talking about being inconvenienced.
	Like those people living miserable lives.
	The UN itself has said Gaza is uninhabitable.
	This is from the UN.
	They have less than than 5% drinking clean drinking water.
	They have electricity.
	Okay, yeah.
	Let it let them go, Al.
	Let him go.
	I want to hear his response.
	You could go all day, we know.
	There was a time.
	It's funny.
	There was a time when Israel controlled Gaza, right?
	And Israel had military presence in Gaza.
	When we did that, and we had settlements in Gaza.
	There were Jews, 8,000 Jews living in Gaza on the beach.
	I used to visit those communities.
	At that time, there was also a time when Gazans were making a lot of money working in Israel, because it was open borders between Gaza and Israel.
	They weren't Israeli citizens, but they came in for work, and Israelis used to go shopping in Gaza Strip in Gaza City.
	Um the Intifada started, and Gaza started killing Israelis in their struggle to get free.
	Israel at some point said, all right, we're gonna take our Jews out of Gaza.
	You know, these they don't want us to be there.
	We're gonna make a border between Gaza and Israel, and we're gonna disengage.
	We disengage From Gaza completely.
	Once we disengage from Gaza, by the way, a lot of money was put into Gaza.
	For example, I used to have a job at a field.
	They used to make these organic peppers in Gaza, and Gaza Jewish owned uh you know, settler owned the agriculture.
	As a kid, it was one of my jobs.
	Most of the co-workers were Palestinians from Khan Yunis.
	Some of them I still went in touch with.
	They made good money.
	I made good money for a kid at the time.
	And um were th was things great?
	No.
	But these fields were bringing in billions of dollars every year to Israeli uh Judas, Judas.
	I gotta interrupt you.
	Make your make your point or like because the whole why you said the intifada started for hold on, Al.
	You said the intifada started for no reason.
	Like we shouldn't be starting the thing there, and yes, we know that that used to be open.
	So so what happened was I'm saying like the the context from our perspective, okay?
	What happened was when once we disengaged from Gaza, as far as we're concerned, all those fields, all of the infrastructure, they had enough uh infrastructure to make millions of dollars, uh billions of dollars just off our businesses that we opened up there, and we gave it to them for free.
	We didn't take money, and there was European NGOs that were funding people to train Gazans to turn those fields into like to continue to operate them, they're willing to continue to buy stuff from them.
	And you know what ended up happening?
	All those places got destroyed, they became military uh um installations for Hamas.
	Um Gaza became really poor, and they invested all of their money and all of their uh um uh efforts into the struggle of trying to get rid of Israel.
	Hold on, are they trying to get rid of Israel or are they trying to get back the land that Israel just took from them by a Zionist with the Zionist agenda?
	They say what they want in their charge.
	I'm asking you, I'm asking you to take the land from the Palestinians, Meyer Dasan, the the slaughter of the villages through terrorism.
	I'll address it.
	Is that wrong?
	From the Palestinian perspective, is that wrong?
	Can you put yourself in their shoes?
	Is that wrong?
	I could, I could, and I would say I I couldn't I will, but first I want to just address the fact because see uh once I address a point and I and I demonstrate that you know we have a right to retaliate when our homes are being rocketed, you're like, yeah, but you're getting rocketed because Gaza is a prison.
	Oh, Gaza's a prison because they attack us from there, and we can't let them get chemical weapons and have people start getting you know biological agents and choking to death in the street, you'll say, Oh, but you have no right to be there.
	Okay, I'll explain why we have a right to be there and how the conflict of the Palestinians took place.
	Okay, I'm uh uh and we can address that in a very deep way.
	But first, I want to point out that individually Israel's reaction to uh Palestinian belligerence uh in the territories is much calmer and much more humane than Asa than King Hussein, then Christians in Lebanon, then any other or any or our Saddam Hussein to the Kurds or or or Assad to Sunnis, etc.
	So if you do actual body counts, you do percentages, you look cruelty, and so on, Israel is the is the calmest and the teamest actor in the region.
	Now, you're making, however, you bring a good point.
	You say, why should Israel be there in the first place?
	That's your argument.
	Why should we be there?
	What right does Israel have to steal Palestinian land?
	Is that your question?
	Okay, so I'm gonna address that.
	In the 1920s, you said Palestinians, like the Palestinian basketball team, uh, whatever, Philharmonic was all Jews.
	The Arabs at the time did not crystallize yet a Palestinian identity.
	Arabs, there was pan-Arabists, there were various Arab national movements, Jews were all over the world, as well as all over the Middle East, and as World War II was coming to an end, even before that, the the questions started arising, just like Lebanon was invented as a place for was like Jews and Christians to be safe from Muslim persecution.
	It's not insane to say, and even if you're not a Zionist, even if you're not involved in the conflict, just as a UN observer, it's not a terrible idea to take all the people in the Middle East and see which ethnic group religious ethnic groups get along and don't get along, and how do we make the Middle East more effective, right?
	At the time when the Palestinians were not yet invented as a nationality, and there were Jews and Arabs in Israel, but most of Jerusalem was Jewish in the night and the eight late 1800s.
	Jews from all over the world and all over the Middle East saw themselves as exiled from Judea and just wanted to go back.
	Whereas most of the Palestinians that we call today Palestinians didn't have a strict Palestinian identity.
	There was no Palestinian nationalism was was was unclear.
	The PLO was invented in only in 1964.
	So it made sense at the time, objectively speaking, and even without invoking our historical rights, which I believe in, it made sense to uh divide up the Middle East and say we're gonna give Christians in Lebanon, put Jews in Judea, put Arabs in Arabia, Israel takes up a tiny, tiny two percent of the Middle East, all right?
	And it's not even the best part of the Middle East, and it's definitely not the most richest area, it's a tiny little area, it's a special area.
	You had to get that area for a special reason.
	Area in strategic, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, it can it connects it connects Asia Minor to Africa and the gateway right to Europe.
	Listen, man.
	And Zionism started way long before that, too.
	Oh, the Palestinians never had a nationality.
	I mean, they're never to find this is hold on, let Al go, let Algo.
	This is the tried and true, this is the tried and true smearing, erasing of Palestinians that we've seen Israelis and Jews conduct and engage in for decades now.
	They want to erase them, like they did the pagan religions before that.
	You guys have had quite a run for the last 2,000 years.
	I'll give you that.
	The the diabolical deceit is only surpassed by your malevolence.
	Now, you can erase things, you can get rid of things, you can burn down the Library of Alexandria, you can erase old knowledge, right?
	Because we have this new this new agenda, this world to come, this Jewish utopia, right?
	Where we're gonna have the Zionist state, the nation state capital of this you know, future new world order, this globalist thing that's going on, this Frankenstein monster.
	You talk about globalism in the uh in the negative, but it without globalists, without the globalist agenda, Israel would not exist.
	It's a creation of the global Israel is a nationalist endeavor, Israel is a particularist nationalist endeavor.
	All the globalists are like you on the side of the Palestinians.
	You're literally on the side of the that's not true.
	The religious, not just nationalists, but religious.
	Yeah, and another thing, you never let him finish.
	He didn't save it, Al.
	Save it for a second.
	Let him finish the point because I interrupted him too.
	He got like two words out.
	No, you can finish.
	I have I'll get once you're done.
	I'm gonna give my you you you never addressed the uh the uh the theological supremacist, how it's codified in your religion that you're better than non-Jews, that we're we're we're worse than animals, right?
	You're holy, we're not.
	Yeah, it it's it's better to you you're better off eating with a dog than with a non-Jew.
	Um the the non-Jew is born in a in a state of filth from birth, etc.
	etc.
	I could go, I could go all day.
	I mean, you guys have been talking about the different differentiating yourselves from non-Jews for thousands of years and how much superior your superior you are to us, right?
	So you can address that as in terms of your theology.
	Is that is that a righteous and and the whole evil, the whole evil is an abstract, it's the ambiguity on malevolence, deception, wage war through deception.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Yeah, yeah, turning turning vices into virtues.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	That's enough.
	I want to hear the response, Al.
	I want to hear him respond.
	So one last point, one last point.
	Your patriarch, a a guy who deceived his dying blind father to steal his brother's birthright, okay.
	This is considered clever.
	This is good in your theology when everyone else sees it as despicable, lying, deceitful.
	You turn that into a virtue.
	So I'm gonna address all of the points that I can remember.
	Starting with the last.
	Look, you can attack our religion as much as you want.
	I've dealt I did a whole stream with Adam on it.
	At the end of the day, it's your people, you were raised Christian or Muslim, doesn't make a difference.
	Most of the world, you're agnostic now, but for some reason, we've been keeping, we haven't been marketing our religion to Gentiles, we've been minding our own business, living our best life.
	But it's Gentiles that are obsessed with our Torah, and you guys, like the Quran, right?
	Yeah, you have like a Muslim warlord prophet.
	I'm not I'm not anti-Muslim, but like here you have a guy who has a whole civilization behind him.
	He throws it all out, and 90% of his holy book is the same stories of Jacob, Isaac, Abraham.
	It's not like I'm not pushing it on you guys, but it's it's the not you specifically, but I know that Adam is against this kind of you know Judaic influence, and I don't I'm indifferent to it.
	But at the end of the day, most of the world likes it.
	I don't know why, it's not my fault.
	All right, I'm not telling you to join my religion.
	Never invited you.
	You read it on the on YouTube and you don't like my religion.
	That's your problem.
	It's my ancient religion.
	I'm proud of it.
	I like it just like I like my people.
	I'm not gonna apologize for that.
	Neither am I gonna apologize for the fact that yes, through deception, you shall wage war.
	Have you ever read von Clausewitz?
	Have you ever read Sun Tzu?
	The every war, every intellectual of war will tell you that you win through deception.
	You have to employ, you have to trick your enemy, and that's that's how you survive.
	And you don't have to fight war.
	How about you real close attention here, Goyam?
	Let him finish, yeah.
	I like where this is going.
	I know, but he applies everything to war.
	How about everyday life?
	How about business?
	How about dealing?
	Well, actually, they teach that when you're when you're dealing with Esau, Esau is inherently evil, so you're always allowed to use deception.
	That's how I've seen it explained.
	But go ahead.
	Please continue, Judas.
	So uh I'm addressing the the idea of deception as a way to survive.
	And then if you take that and you apply that to everyday life, yeah, that's obviously if you're gonna be deceptive with people in business, they won't trust you, and it's immoral, and it's different than being deceptive in a war.
	And uh, and I explained this in the previous podcast.
	If you want to talk about the offering guys, it's important.
	There's war, there's there's like an there's an inevitable war between Jews and Gentiles because of the religion, and Jacob didn't use deception against Esau to defend himself, it was to steal the birthright because you want to steal the world to come.
	Okay, okay.
	So, guys, guys, listen, let's let's talk about practical, like actual real life, not ancient uh foundational myths.
	What's important right now is that uh you you guys, and I've done this, I did this before in our previous conversation.
	You brought up uh quotes in Jewish sources where it appears to say that you can um be deceptive with with your enemy with Gentiles by your enemy and not deceptive with Jews, and and and that's it's a common trope that's taught by uh anti-Semites, and even some Jews misunderstand it, but for the most part, we have a tradition that that is referring to a time of conflict.
	When you're in a time of conflict, and when your enemy is trying to destroy you, then you have to do what you can to destroy them, but it doesn't mean that you're always in a time of conflict.
	We are not always in a time of conflict today.
	There will be not one rabbi in the world, not one rabbi in the world that will tell his student, go be deceptive to the gentiles.
	If in fact, rabbis who find students who are being deceptive, running Panzi schemes, they often uh snitch on them to the Gentile, whatever, to the governments, because they're against these kind of things.
	This is not the way we behave today.
	Um, it's not something we condone.
	Are there Jews who do these kind of things?
	Yes, but it's not something it's condoned, and it's very this whole argument you make of like you find some ancient text online and you use it as a as a as a way to prove us worldview that this is how we all are and how we've always been is very disingenuous.
	Start out is the religion not based upon these books and these words.
	No, no, and I've explained this to you before.
	The The the and I I've explained to you on two levels.
	There's one level that I I happen to be what people consider orthodox and observant, right?
	But my I myself, and I can explain that this is not what you think it is.
	But not only that, I will also tell you that I am maybe 20% of the state of Israel, people like me, or 20% of the state of Israel that are observant of the Jewish world at large were less than 10%.
	So you're gonna say, oh, this is a Jew, like all Jews are doing, or just a tiny minority are doing, and even the tiny minority, Orthodox Jews do not believe in the things you subscribe to us, even if they seem to be written in these texts, because those were had certain context to it.
	Do you not believe it do is it not a common in in different levels of Judaism, you know, participate at different levels and and know uh have different understandings?
	But is it not taught that Esau and Amalek are always from generation to generation waging war and trying to exterminate you guys?
	So in a fact, you are always uh in in defense.
	It's like your religion to be persecuted.
	No, but you realize that I'm a lick.
	If as if you don't like we have this thing, I'm a like is always around, but but we don't racial actors.
	Yeah, it would never forget, but don't but don't you realize like uh since Sina Harib, like we have this tradition that we don't know who they are anymore.
	So it's like a phantom thing, it doesn't exist.
	There is no commandment to wipe out a single people right now.
	So we'll say like the Nazis were Amalek, but they're not Nazis anymore.
	The Germans today are Malik.
	No.
	So who's Amalek now?
	We don't have an Amalek.
	So it's it's it's a theological point.
	It's like when you're going to a Christian and telling him, like, oh, don't you want to like kill all the non-believers?
	Yes, when Jesus will come back, and then all the non-believers will die, but you they kind of do.
	They got that Moshiach idea from you guys.
	Is that's the Moshiach Ben David?
	The the zealotry is there.
	Can I just Go ahead, Al, go ahead, Al.
	Can I say something?
	Yeah, go ahead, Al.
	Alright, with guys, that's hold on Al.
	Hold on out.
	What weren't you done, Judas?
	I thought you were done with your point.
	I'll I'll I'll say on Al, Al, stop, stop.
	Judas, 10 seconds.
	Go ahead.
	Finish what your point were you saying.
	All I'm saying is that like you religious um ideas that people have, okay, don't translate necessarily into what they do.
	Apocalyptic Christians are not waiting for the day where they're gonna kill all non-believers.
	They just kind of are in their books.
	They say it to me in the comments.
	Okay, uh, you're you're totally wrong.
	Of course, people's religion influences their actions and their behaviors and their beliefs.
	But go ahead, Al.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And and and who's who's the who's the force driving this LGBTQ on steroids?
	Who's the force driving the normalization of pedophilia?
	Who's behind lowering the age of consent, right?
	Who's behind all these things?
	I wonder, I wonder.
	Who who claims that that that through their studies we can't prove sex with children does them harm?
	Okay, okay, okay.
	Judas, your your response to that.
	I don't know.
	Like you guys take uh take this uh group of people that we consider our enemies as well.
	We all suffer from the degeneracy of the Western world, right?
	We those of us who stand against the um degeneracy from all religions really need to unite against it instead of all ganging off on one group, because that's not gonna get you.
	Because it's primarily coming from Jews.
	Uh Jeffrey Epstein wasn't an Eskimo, right?
	Harvey Weinstein, all this depravity.
	You don't think you don't think uh all these sexual deviants that just happen to be Jewish?
	You think it's just a coincidence?
	You don't think it's because of their theology or the way they're brought up that they're more inclined to rape children?
	Obviously, nothing to do with their theology.
	The people who were involved with them, plenty of from all over the world, Gentiles, Africans, white people, anyone who was interested in that kind of thing was involved.
	And uh yes, it's terrible that Jeffrey Epstein did what he did, but he was a Clinton supporting liberal.
	I mean, he was a leftist, he uh did was not known to be like he's not you know wasn't considered a friend of ours.
	Um Harvey Weinstein, similar gun control, leftist, like these these are people who are considered our enemies, all nationalists see them as enemies, not just to yourself.
	So you want to interesting, right?
	Here's a different question then because we know that you're not endorsing those things, so it's an easy uh, you know, for lack of a better word, it's like it's an easy cop out just to say that you disavow and that those you know those people aren't influenced by Jews.
	What about this uh TikTok girl about this the six genders in the Talmud?
	Uh what's your what's your uh take on that?
	Did you see that?
	Send it to me.
	You sent it to me on Twitter.
	I saw it.
	Um they're very annoying.
	These girls really like so the Talmudist, I'm offended because the Talmud doesn't talk about six gender.
	So the Talmud does is talk about birth defects, okay?
	And some of the birth defects are gender issues, like someone's born without a penis, but uh or like with the penis and with breasts or no breaths and no like the different the different birth defects that people have, and the Talmud addresses it.
	What do you do?
	Does this person get treated like a boy or is she like a girl for like for like witnesses in a court?
	Because he cheated like a boy as far as praying services, you pray the prayers of a boy or prayers of a girl, right?
	Like the regular stuff like that, right?
	What do you do?
	And the LGBT, the Jewish LGBT people love that because they interpret that as talking about gender dysphoria.
	It has nothing to do with gender dysphoria, it's just talking about birth defects.
	There's no operation to change your agenda.
	So so you're you're the Talmudic rabbi, you're telling us that the Talmud does not endorse binary or all these other genders.
	It just acknowledges that that they're out there.
	The Talmud acknowledges not that they're binaries and transgenders, it acknowledges um people who are born with uh like unclear gender characteristics or too many gender characteristics.
	These are things that happened.
	If you were a judge in a court, these questions would come to you from all the thousands of birth, all the defects would come to you, and you wrote down what the law would be how to treat these defects.
	So, what should be the biblical law for uh for gay people?
	Do you think?
	There is the Bible says they should be stoned.
	Stoned to death, right?
	That's the old testament.
	Yeah, that's the old testament.
	But but the way the old testament worked for us, not for you guys, but for us how it worked.
	I'll give you an example.
	We stoned adulterers as well.
	A woman commits adultery, we they should get killed.
	So the in the time of the second temple, there was a period of degeneracy when Rome invaded and they bought all their Roman ways, and there was a lot of degeneracy and a lot of uh adultery.
	The the court said we're not we're not we can't uh execute people anymore because we'll be executing people all day for adultery.
	So they just suspended executions.
	The idea was that they should that families should be kept strong, and if we um have a law that we'll kill adulterers and maybe we do it once in 50 years, then the nation will be stronger because less people will commit adultery.
	But once everyone was committing adultery, they just stopped it.
	So at the time we didn't have many gays because the Mishnah talks about it, says Jews aren't in fact.
	I don't know if I can say that.
	They said Jews are not gays.
	Uh it was like considered something that Jews don't do.
	Greeks were considered to be very into that kind of thing, Romans were considered to be into that.
	But um, at that time they would still be of the policy that we need to kill them to stop it.
	Had our ancestors known what Jews were like now, as far as LGBTQ, they would be they would be horrified.
	But what they would do, they would not kill them, and they wouldn't persecute them because it's too much.
	Our job is not to go out, kill it when on ISIS.
	We were never designed to be like we weren't literalists.
	We we were reasonable, humane people, contrary to what you think.
	What about the Kabbalistic uh androgynous gods?
	Uh I'm not a cabalist.
	I'm I get a Kabbalist on the phone.
	I don't I don't know subscribe to Kabbalistic theology, so it's hard for me to defend things that I don't believe in.
	Al, Al since we probably only got hold on, Al.
	You're getting to be like almost midnight your time, right, Judas?
	I'm good.
	I'm good.
	I don't know.
	Okay, you're good for what another 30 minutes.
	Is that cool?
	That's a 30 minutes.
	Okay, cool.
	Go ahead, Al.
	Now I I've I've made this statement over and over and over again, and you've never refuted it or reputed it, repudiated it.
	Now, why can't Jews say everyone is equal?
	We're gonna live by the golden rule.
	We're no better than anyone else.
	Why can't you guys repudiate the supremacy and the and the hatred for non-Jews?
	So that's a that's an easy question.
	Are you sure that's one of yeah?
	I want I I want to ask you that.
	Okay.
	So let's say let's take a look at uh um Israel's declaration of independence.
	Okay.
	Here in our ancestral homeland, we're going.
	Um I'm I'm translating and paraphrasing, okay?
	We the Jews have returned to our land after 2,000 years.
	And in this land, here are the values that we believe in.
	All humans are equal, all religions, all genders, all ethnicities have equal rights under the law.
	Okay, that's that was the dream of the of Israel when they started.
	Okay, it's a place for us, it's gonna be our national home, but everybody's equal.
	No one is better than anyone else, right?
	That's even the Zionist Ben Gurion.
	Okay, if you go today to uh most uh most Jews you speak to, uh all the Jews you know, how many of them tell you that they're better than you?
	How many of the Jews that you know feel or tell you or think?
	I'm not talking about Jews you find on YouTube on Stormfront or or like on Stormfront videos.
	I'm talking about actual Jews you know.
	How many of them think they're better than you?
	I've never been on Stormfront for the right.
	I told you this in the beginning.
	I uh I was insulated from all of this Jewish supremacy growing up.
	I had no idea it existed until only on and studying.
	Okay, so from studying like online resources, you know that we're supremacist.
	Have you ever met a Jew who was supremacist towards you that told you, Al, you know, you're a piece of shit because you're Egyptian.
	No, no, that never happened.
	So you read about Jews that are supremacist.
	Now I'm going to concede that just like you have Egyptians who are supremacists and Chinese who are supremacists, you're going to find Jews that are supremacists.
	But I'm also gonna tell you guys that 99% of Jews that you meet are absolutely not supremacists, and they're completely equal to they see themselves as equal to everyone else, and they love everyone.
	And uh in fact, I think that Jews should be a tad more supremacist.
	You know why?
	I'll tell you why.
	Because I'm a nationalist and I think we need to look out for our own people.
	So I know that I'm not better than you guys, but I want my nation, just like I want you guys, same thing for you, right?
	To be ethnocentric and to look out for their own and to worry about Jewish uh rights over any other group's rights because if we don't worry about ourselves, no one's gonna worry about us.
	So I don't think now why why can't you apply that?
	Why can't you apply that ethnocentrism to Europe without condemning him, condemning the Europeans as Nazis?
	Yeah, it doesn't, it's it's a double standard.
	You see what it doesn't it doesn't he does, he may not do that, but that's what happens to us.
	You're you're both right that it happens, but would you don't you notice that like Netanyahu, who's right wing in Israel, is aligned with like Orban and with Kurtz and with old the uh and with uh what's his name, Bolsonaro.
	So you you'll find that our right wing Jews are aligned with and and nationalist Jews are aligned with nationalist right wing Gentiles and our left-wing Jews and globalist Jews who don't want to have a war with the Palestinians, who want to let in Africans, they're a globalists, who are they aligned with?
	They aligned with the globalists in New York and globalists in Europe.
	So I don't I don't I think that it's unfair to I'm not um it's unfair to accuse us of being nationalists for Jews and internationalists for others.
	There are a few examples where that's the reality.
	That's the reality.
	A lot of people are like that.
	There are okay, so there are some like Chuck Schumer is kind of like that, right?
	Because Chuck Schumer is very like pro-Israel and like right wing on Israel, left wing on America.
	So he's an example.
	I'll agree that Chuck Schumer is like that, right?
	But for the most part, you look at Bernie Sanders.
	Bernie Sanders is supported by all the Palestinians, supported by the squad, right?
	He's anti-Israel.
	And and but in Israel, anti-Israel.
	He's not anti-Israel.
	He's he's like a limited hangout, like mild critic.
	Okay, so he's not I guess I want I want to ask you this question.
	I want to ask you this question.
	In 2002, in 2002, when you guys wanted to re-wrent into, I know you're already occupying the West Bank, but when they went into Ramallah and put the terror, put the tank turret through uh Arafat's fucking office wall, right?
	And they took over Ramallah in 2002.
	Why did when the Israeli authorities seize the uh the television station?
	Why did they only broadcast pornography to the Palestinians?
	So maybe to give them a good time, I don't know.
	But I'll say this that one, it's not true, it's simply not true.
	Two, um I live around Palestinians, and many of them are my friends, but and I'm pornography is overall a bad thing.
	I'm against it.
	But it would be nice if they had an outfit, okay, to say the least.
	Okay, there's so you guys you this was this was a uh a goodwill gesture by the IDF to broadcast pornography throughout the West Bank.
	It never happened because in the IDF it's illegal, it's illegal for us soldiers to do anything like that.
	It's like even as a prank, we wouldn't have done it.
	It's not something that we can do.
	Like you don't have that kind of freedom to do it.
	It's like uh it's one of the silliest uh I um silliest libels I've heard about IDF.
	I happen to know the boys that were in Ramallah at the time.
	I well, I mean, I'm I'm sure it wasn't the IDF, but it was somebody in in the Israeli government that did it, right?
	No, but I think I I'm sorry, brother.
	I think that's that's I don't think that happened.
	I think it did.
	How about if it did?
	Let's play if if it did, hypothetically.
	If it did, why do you think they did that?
	Okay, so I don't think it happened.
	So again, it's it's something that did not happen.
	So I don't have to deal with like if it did, but um it it sounds like a prank that someone would like it.
	Sounds like a silly idea of a prank.
	Like, oh, let's put porn in the road, like when your friend will send you like uh uh a voicemail with porn sounds while you're in class to embarrass you.
	That's what it sounds like to me, but I still don't think it happens.
	I think that it's we'll get you we'll get you the evidence.
	Get me evidence.
	I'd like to see if I have evidence, I'll be I'll be impressed if there's evidence.
	I'll be very impressed.
	Because I've heard this claim before.
	I spoke to guys who like wouldn't know, and they all told me it's BS.
	I I've heard E. Michael Jones.
	This I've heard I remember just hearing this from E Michael Jones who like to see I'd like to see evidence because like the guys that I asked, like they're the type of guys who if they did it, they'd be like, that was hilarious.
	That was so cool.
	Yeah, we did that, but it didn't happen.
	Sounds like a troll.
	It says uh here's an article I found.
	I know you can't see this now, but apparently the Israelis deny that they did it, which um I know I don't want to read this whole thing.
	I I would ask what it where's the yeah?
	Okay, uh I have a better uh libel, I think here.
	You you said like everybody uh everybody has their supremacist religions, a better libel, yeah.
	You like that joke.
	Uh everybody has their religions, the Chinese, the Muslims, the Christians, whatever, but it you guys are unique where it's that there's the monotheistic, the one God, he chose you and chose you to what to be a light unto the nations.
	It's like a you know, a national messiah complex where you think that the one true God chose you for a special role, like that's unique, and that has had a powerful effect, not just on the world because of Christians a lot.
	Okay, so you know, like we have a couple of things.
	So first I'll put I'll I'll make two points.
	Uh I think you'll appreciate both of them.
	Like, don't you see the trolling side?
	I know that we take it seriously, we're chosen by God and so on, but do you see the trolling side of that?
	Like the the ancient Hebrews, despised race, slaves.
	Like even you look how we were referred to by Greeks or by Egyptians and by Persians.
	We were a tiny little vassal state that no people like but you thought you were chosen before that.
	Okay, but do you realize though the trolling side of it that we say we're chosen?
	It doesn't feel like a troll.
	It feels like a very powerful weapon over the world.
	Okay, so it's I'll tell you why it's not about it.
	Because we never wanted to sh we saw our covenant with God as a very like intimate personal thing that we did not want to share.
	Like we didn't come and say, let's invent Christianity.
	Like even the Septuagint, right?
	Which is the first Greek translation of the 24 books of the Bible, right?
	Why is it called a Septuagint?
	Because the the Greek, one of the Greek powers wanted a translation of the Bible, and the rabbis wouldn't do it.
	And he was worried that they're gonna give him a fake translation because we were protective over our culture.
	We didn't want to share it.
	So he put 70 elders in separate rooms and had each one do a translation, so you should know that they're not one of them.
	So you guys, like the Gentile world, like extracted the Bible from us, they got obsessed with it, invented new religions based on it.
	Both Christianity and Islam are basically spin-offs of our tribal, ancestral, intimate um uh uh system that we have, and now they come back and yell at us for being supremacists.
	Like, fuck off, guys.
	Like I didn't ask you to take our like you see, I get belligerent about it because like we didn't ask you guys to take our religion to borrow it to do anything with it.
	We just saw it.
	Okay, but okay, so so yeah, once Christianity was literally that started by Jews, yeah, but it was an apocalyptic sect.
	Okay, it was it was started by Jews, but it was an apocalyptic sect that marketed uh uh a form of uh uh distorted form of Judaism.
	I'm not even gonna knock Christianity because that's not what I'm about.
	I'm not here, I have my own religion, I don't need to knock another one, but it's definitely a distortion of our religion.
	Maybe it's a better version, according to them.
	Maybe for them it's better.
	It spread your religion all over the world.
	He was the suffering Messiah of Isaiah, Moshiach, then Yosef.
	From our perspective, man, like we suffer from Christian persecution more than from pagan persecution.
	Like, so we didn't we weren't persecuted by pagans to the extent we were persecuted by Christians.
	The Christians gave you Israel, the Romans occupied and destroyed the temple.
	The Christians want to rebuild it.
	You use that persecution, right, to your benefit, right?
	You leverage that the persecutory complex and the victimization, you you you leverage that all into Israel, uh, modern-day Israel.
	I mean, and this whole this whole uh mythos of victimhood and victimization of the Jews, and we're we're guilty and evil.
	The problem I have is that you never address is the malevolence within the theology, the ambiguity, the ambiguity ambiguity in terms of evil.
	You can't, there is no, you know, it's subjective, it's it's it's pliable, it's not concrete, it's not objective.
	This is this you do understand this is the centralism, and why Judaism is the core of every occult sect out there.
	You understand that, right?
	Transgression, redemption through transgression, etc.
	The evil impulse is good.
	Without the evil impulse, Israel could not prevail in the world.
	You do understand this is a very slippery slope.
	And it all kind of originates from that that evil comes from God, so that you can kind of evil in a way serves their their purpose.
	But go ahead.
	So look, look, you guys are you I'm actually I don't like saying I'm impressed, Al, but you did put together uh Quite a few different Kabbalistic points from different world different kabbalistic systems, and you expressed it in the most negative way possible.
	Now, I am not a caboist, and I'm even considered an anti-cabbalist.
	If a Cabalist was here, he would do a great job defending these positions.
	He would talk about how not that that good is what they believe is not that um that good, the evil is amorphous, doesn't exist, or it's all relative.
	They believe that even every evil impulse has comes from a good source and it could be challenged, channeled the right way.
	So we have a traditional belief that, for example, if you're uh if you if you have a violent streak to you, right?
	And you can become a sociopath and you know that you have that within you.
	So what do you do?
	Know what you do?
	You work in slaughtering of animals for food.
	Okay, so your violent impulse gets channeled to something productive, okay.
	If you're um, you know, uh lost Judas.
	What?
	Sorry, I'm lost.
	What are you saying?
	Sacrifice for food.
	He's saying he's saying you can you can channel your socio your your your uh psychopathy into like slaughtering animals.
	Yeah, for example, if you have a if you have a violent streak, if you slaughter animals for food, you're you're channeling it to something um positive, or if you're a soldier in war and you're used for the you know for that kind of thing, and it's a lot of people.
	But do you see?
	Don't you see how no no other theology, you know, dwells on this negativity, this this evil, this left this left hand, the left hand path, right?
	This all guys, I I don't subscribe to this, but what I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with saying that every evil impulse can be channeled the right way.
	It's actually something that helps therapeutically, that helps people deal with issues that they have.
	I'm not against it, I don't think it's the end of the world.
	And I think that you yourself mentioned that all the Jews you know were perfectly nice to you.
	So this is an idea that you read somewhere.
	You saw a video about it, and you're assuming now that all the evil in the world comes from a tiny cabal of Jews that you've never met, okay, and you uh and and now you're attacking Jews that you are meeting to tell you we don't believe in this bullshit, and it's not what we think, and it's not what we do.
	So either you have to you either you have to accuse us of being liars and disingenuous, or you need to assume that we're innocent, and then there's some other evil cabal somewhere doing these things.
	I don't know if I could help you very much.
	Like the latter, I think.
	I think I lean toward a little combo of the first, the former and the latter, actually, Judas, to answer that.
	Hey, I I just want to ask real quick before you you you respond there, Al.
	Um that you said that the 70 elders, the seven is that the 70 rabbis of the Sanhedrin were asked to write down the Torah.
	Is that in the Talmud or something to write down the Septuagint?
	Yeah, so it's not the same.
	I don't think it was a symbol.
	I think it was just they just chose 70 rabbis because they wanted that.
	Was their research project for the Library of Alexandria?
	They wanted to have a copy of the Bible, and the Jews at the time were being stingy about their Bible.
	We don't want to give it to you guys.
	And the idea behind it was they thought, uh, the the Gentiles are gonna take our Bible, they're gonna read it, they're gonna use it for some, they're gonna make up new religions, they're gonna hear how we want to rule over them, and that we think we consider them uh evil, basically.
	Gentiles are evil, Jews are good, gent Jews are the light, Gentiles are the darkness.
	And they and they also believe that that the holiness attracts evil, right?
	You guys believe that like the holiness attracts evil.
	So even the you're referring to, and there's nothing wrong with these views, there's nothing inherently wrong with them.
	They're just it is not much different than Christian theology, than Sufi Muslim theology, even in some street strands of Buddhist and Vedic theology, like this is kind of the kind of thing humans come up with when they try to administer their relationship with the divine.
	You're latching on to the Jews for whatever reason.
	I think they're mostly emotional, like you know, need to be, but this is not uncommon, okay?
	And I don't need to disavow this.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, Al.
	Listen what people don't realize, okay.
	First, there were more Jews in Alexandria than there were in Jerusalem.
	Okay.
	The most vibrant Jewish community on the face of the planet was in Alexandria, right?
	Judas knows this.
	Most people do not.
	There was a big rivalry between the uh Alexandrian Jews and the Jerusalem Jews, and they had different different schools of thought and everything else.
	Yes, there was such a time when Alexandre was uh competing with Jerusalem, yes, even out during Jerusalem.
	Right, right.
	I mean, you're your greatest sage, but Memonides, right?
	Alexandrian Jew.
	So basically that was way later, though.
	Way later, right, right.
	A thousand years later.
	So anyway, getting back to the state.
	Getting back to getting back to this whole point.
	Yeah, I think you, in terms of the rabbis, uh Judith, you you you put on the best face, right?
	You you're you're a good PR guy, you you can put lipstick on the pig, but nonetheless, it's a pig.
	We understand we see the darkness, we see the reality.
	Oh, the the uh the the framing of nations, the hostilities, the subversion, the the incessant attacks uh on Syria, framing Saddam, framing Qaddafi, the potent non plan,
	the balcony of the Middle East, everything, all this chaos that you guys author that you've created, not just in the Middle East, but the entire world, Russia, Germany, Hungary, East Europe, Eastern Europe.
	It's it's a nightmare.
	Do you understand the world is ready to wake up from this nightmare?
	You guys need to settle down.
	Speechless or muted.
	I'm not muted or something.
	I'm listening, I didn't know like he stopped in the middle, like you didn't, like I didn't know that the rant was over.
	Oh, okay.
	Look, you you you you you delivered a lecture, okay.
	Um these were all assertions.
	None of these assertions I accept.
	I don't think that we did anything wrong to Syria other than defeating them every time they invaded us.
	That's what we did wrong to Syria.
	If they didn't invade us, they would have still had the Golan Heights and there would have been no war, and we would have been open borders, and maybe there would have been a Jewish community living in Damascus and Aleppo.
	But since they thought that they can destroy us, they ended up being in the situation they are.
	They were they just be indiscriminately attacked anytime, any day, any day, repeatedly forever.
	You guys could just bomb bomb targets in Syria at will.
	Oh Syria, well, right now, if Syria is going to arm uh Hezbollah, and they're going to um foment terror attacks against our civilians on our border, and we're going to go and make sure that they don't have enough weapons to effectively do that.
	And assuming that's us, right?
	We don't take responsibility, but even if it was us, I have no problem doing that.
	Look, Syria was offered several times, take the Golan Heights and make a peace deal.
	They refuse.
	They preferred to remain in a state of war for whatever reasons.
	It's not a war that they can win, but they want to stay in a state of war.
	It's like that kid in school who keeps attacking you, and you keep beating him up, and he keeps coming back for more.
	Like Syria is the one who started.
	They say the same about the Palestinians.
	That's your side.
	Yeah, no, but yeah, that that's your side.
	The Palestinians wouldn't agree.
	They'd say these deals suck.
	Very different side.
	So no, with Palestinians, I don't see the Palestinians the same way.
	Because the Palestinians, they actually are also indigenous to this land.
	And they have claims, they want to be here.
	And they're just like I was born here, they were born here.
	I don't feel like, oh, we have to get rid of the Palestinians.
	It's not my view.
	Well, the Palestinians, though, they need to decide how they want to pursue their goals and what their goals are.
	Like if you're their goal is going to be to liberate Palestine from the river to the sea and cleanse it of its Jewish presence, if that's their goal, and that seems to be their goal, then that means that it's an all or nothing conflict.
	And while I feel for them and I don't hate them personally, if you're gonna have uh an all or nothing conflict with me, right, and it's gonna be a zero sum game, then you better be ready for the consequences of engaging in such a conflict.
	There's another option, they can decide to share the land, and we can have either uh two states, a federation or something, we can have work something out.
	But how could you have a two-state when there's settlements all over the Palestinian territory?
	I'm a settlement, so my answer to that is that um the settlements is their is the price you pay for your belligerents.
	So as long as you continue to attack us and refuse to have peace, we need we're gonna expand naturally.
	It could be that it's too late for a two-late two-state solution.
	It could be in a few years, that's what we need to do.
	I I have no problem like living in Jidia and Samaria, and if tomorrow becomes if the an agreement is made and it becomes part of Palestine, I'm probably gonna stay on my farm and try to get along with the local authority.
	If they're gonna like that's I would prefer.
	I'm not, I don't, you know, I'm not gonna die on this hill, but but because I like the land itself, my farm, I love it.
	That's where I want to be.
	But but I'm not gonna like I don't think that the Palestinians want they want a state, but not an exchange for ending the conflict.
	So as soon as we reach a stage like, okay, we get here, you're gonna have your state in Judea and Samaria, we're gonna take some Jews out, we're gonna make an arrangement for the settlements, who's gonna stay in, who's gonna stay out, but you're gonna end the conflict.
	The Palestinian no, we want our refugees, uh 10 million refugees from all over the world to come back to uh to Israel proper, you know, after we're two-state solution, which means a river to the sea.
	We don't want Israel to exist.
	So that's their position.
	But your position is that all the land is yours because God gave it to you.
	And how many Palestinian politicians and rabbis say absolutely no Palestinian state, no concessions, no land?
	The Torah gave it to us.
	Right.
	So all Jews I want to jump in here real quick.
	There's there's the public position for public consumption that gets disseminated throughout the internet.
	We want peace, we want peace.
	Jared Kushner is gonna make a peace deal.
	They're always throwing rocks and shooting bottle rockets, and and we're just defending ourselves, like the propaganda we get on this is intense, bro.
	Blah blah blah, blah, blah, and in real time, expand, expand, expand, change the reality on the ground, so there is which precludes any prospect of a Palestinian state.
	It's the game, we know it, it's transparent.
	Okay, so so I I did I disagree with all of this thing because you're being insensitive to the fact that when um there's they attack, they come out with knives, and they butcher women and children in the streets and slaughter them when they have a chance to do that, right?
	That's how we have a wall.
	That's how we keep this when was when did that happen?
	It happens all the time.
	Happened a few weeks ago, happened a few months ago.
	And did they do it for for no reason at all?
	Or did you guys come and steal their land and and massacre people?
	If you see a woman jumping on the street and you follow her to a secluded place, and then you take a knife and cut her body into pieces, a 45-year-old mom, psychopathic.
	A psychopathic, this is the kind of thing that happens often.
	It's not something that never happens.
	Like we happens more often to the Palestinians than the Israelis, and it happens to them like insane settlers.
	Who's got the raw end of the deal in the whole Middle East conflict?
	It's obvious who's got the raw end.
	Okay, so I'll I'm going to concede to you that the Palestinians have the end of the deal, but you must ask yourself a deeper question.
	You must ask yourself why?
	How did it reach the situation?
	And you can say, like you've been saying on this show for the last shot.
	Yeah, the support of all the Christians in the West.
	Let them go.
	I want to hear the I want to hear the explanation before we throw more stuff out.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, Judas.
	Something that's never been said on your show.
	No one ever says this.
	You can respond now and you can spend the next 10 shows responding.
	Okay.
	I'm going to like I did before, I'm going to dig deep into the root of the conflict.
	The way an Israeli settler like myself, you see, I'm here talking to you, I'm on your show.
	How do we see the conflict?
	I'm a settler.
	Like I'm not like a left-wing uh you're not a typical settler, though.
	When I think of settlers, I don't think of someone like you.
	Yeah, because I I think of people.
	You don't even have the curly curls.
	Most settlers, like most Jews in the West Bank, the vast majority are suburban moms and dads with like six children who work all day, come home to their sleepy neighborhood, okay, and do homework with their kids, to play soccer in the weekends, do barbecues there, like you said, with their families and go to synagogue on the Sabbath.
	That's what most settlers do.
	Boring, tax-paying citizens.
	You would see them, you would think they're the most vanilla people in the world.
	Most of us.
	Now, we do have some, you know, people that are extreme that get into get into these like thuggish street fights with Palestinians.
	We don't most settlers don't like them, they create problems for us.
	But I digress, let's dig deep into the source of the conflict.
	You guys see it, and many people see it, including many Palestinians.
	They hear we came from another country and you stole their land.
	Here's how I see it.
	And I started touching on it earlier.
	Um, there's a side to this that's moral, and there's a side to this that can't be judged moral.
	You have to look at it like historically, right?
	Jews, the very word Jew, in our mindset, it means Judea.
	A Jew is born.
	The first thing they'll say, the first service they make at his circumcision, they're gonna talk about how we're never gonna forget Jerusalem.
	Jewish what the first prayer at a circumcision is the commemoration of Jerusalem.
	Jerusalem.
	Jerusalem, Zion, Israel.
	The what when we get married, we break a glass, so we shouldn't feel happiness of having a wife, because how could you be happy when you're exiled from your land?
	This is not good or bad, this is just what we are.
	When Shekinah is exiled, but you don't believe in that.
	No, it's not Shachina.
	It's us being exiled from Jerusalem.
	We want our land.
	Simple, it's a it's like a simple thing of human beings that never forgot their homeland.
	We were kicked out, we want to go back.
	That's all I meant.
	Uh we're being held back from going back.
	When you when you die, right?
	We we bury Jews in shrouds, we put in the place in his uh coffin some earth from Israel, you know, to so that at least it's a symbol, but yeah, like you we buried you in in a foreign land, but there's a little bit of earth from from Israel that here's like you're you're fellow parts.
	We got five more minutes, yeah.
	Let's get back, yeah.
	Five more minutes.
	Go ahead, Al.
	Hit him with hit him with your blue when you're what go ahead.
	When we when we know, hold on, we're going to Al real quick.
	Israel's got the reality is this Israel violated over 60 UN resolutions.
	Iraq violated to Iraq violated to invaded destroying twice.
	Israel, your whole life.
	Who's calling the shots?
	Who's running the game?
	Who's got the blackmail?
	Who's got the honey pots, the human compromising, leveraging tremendous wealth into political power, and giving the and putting us at the business end of that power, right?
	We didn't even talk about like Zionist control in America yet, really, even that's like a whole nother two-hour debate, 20-hour debate.
	Well, if Judas's butt isn't too sore, he can come back.
	No, I uh it's not about the sore, it's about more pill pull of them.
	Um it's a question of how like productive our time together here is I think it's productive.
	I I'm enjoying it.
	I I don't know, I'm not a I'm not complaining.
	What I'm telling you is that our uh Jews see ourselves as Judeans, as as people who want to live in Israel.
	When we came to this land, okay, there were some Jews that never left, and then there were other Jews that joined them.
	Now, the when hostilities began, okay, the hostilities that we've had were not with Palestinians, they were with a pan-Arab world.
	It was Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, they all attacked at the same time.
	And they made a statement, they didn't say we're here here to create Palestine.
	They said we're here to defend our Arab brothers and to make sure that the Jews don't get a foothold in the Middle East because they don't deserve it.
	They're from Europe, they they're they're they're under us, they're Syrians, or they're Iraqis, they don't get a piece of this land.
	And by by having that conflict, they make like they're basically saying that they're willing to kill for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.
	Okay.
	If you're willing to kill for them and you're willing to kill Jews for them, then you must also be willing to absorb them as refugees if and when you lose.
	All right.
	And the con the 48 war, the Arab Arabs didn't say we're just going to stop the Jews from having a state.
	They said we're going to finish the job that Hitler started.
	They were not Holocaust deniers.
	They believed that the Holocaust happened.
	They said we're going to finish the job that Hitler started.
	We're going to throw the Jews in the sea and we're going to be able to do that.
	Where's your source for that?
	Yeah, that's this is this is the Zionist narrative.
	We've heard it at nausea.
	Well, I want to hear, I want to hear though.
	Is there what's the source?
	What's the source on that?
	This was their stated goal, genocidal stated goal.
	Okay.
	Well, you can send me that link and we'll have to follow up.
	That's a big claim.
	It is a big claim, and I can back it up.
	Now, at the time, okay, the Palestinians were some Palestinians that joined in this war effort, and there were some Palestinians that signed non-aggression treaties with Israel.
	The ones that joined in the war effort got kicked out.
	That was the knockback, right?
	Yeah, I'm sorry, you joined in a genocidal war against us.
	We're not going to keep you.
	No, you guys went at villages that like it attacked them by surprise.
	You're totally misrepresented.
	Urgun threatened terrorism.
	A Jew misrepresenting history.
	You do this here again.
	I'm making a state uh a case that you haven't heard.
	You have you can respond for hours and say how I'm wrong.
	And I'm also gonna back up with evidence in your uh in your comments below.
	So there's no, you know, maybe I didn't have evidence, maybe I'm making it up.
	But if not, I have evidence.
	You're making it up.
	It could be true.
	They could have said I couldn't understand.
	I couldn't believe that the Arabs didn't want uh uh the uh Jewish states right on Palestinian land.
	I couldn't believe that.
	Okay, so I'm not lying, obviously.
	I'm telling you, this was a war, a pan-Arab conflict.
	Some Palestinians or some Arabs signed non-aggression treaties, they were not getting involved.
	You know what happened to them?
	They got tax exam status, they're still in Israel, and many of them voted for Bibi Netanyahu because they're doing better, have a higher GDP, better education, better standards of living in Israel than anywhere in the Arab world.
	Those that decided to join the conflict against us because of the nature of the conflict, they were kicked out.
	Don't forget that the Jewish neighborhoods, like Sheikh Jarach, which is a Jewish neighborhood at the time, was empty, was completely ethnically cleansed after 1948 because Jordan got it.
	They made sure not one Jew is there.
	Egypt took the Sinai to Gaza, not one Jew left.
	Jordan took Hebron, not one Jew left.
	So we had we still have 20% of our population are Arabs.
	And why do we have 20% of the population?
	These were villages that we kept because they got along with us.
	Had had uh had the other villages gotten along with us, they would have all stayed, okay?
	And it would have probably been a binational state of some sort because they would have outnumbered us.
	But they they made choices, and these choices have consequences.
	The consequences of starting a genocidal war is that if you lose, luckily you didn't get genocided, but when you lose, you get kicked out because we're we don't want we don't do genocide.
	So we're here to take your land, and if you lose, then you gotta leave.
	You've got a long rich history on it.
	Greater than any other group or nationality or ethnicity on the base of the earth.
	The Torah condones the genocidal takeover of the Holy Land.
	The disingenuous argument is I'm proving to you that 700,000 Palestinians that were exiled because they participated in a war against us.
	By the way, at the same time, 700,000 Jews were also exiled from Arab countries like my ancestors, and they came to Israel and got citizenship right away, right?
	We get it, you guys won.
	This was a stand no, but here you have a fair exchange of populations.
	The entire Arab world attacks the entire Israel world, right?
	Israel wins, right?
	And Israel, as a result, absorbed 700,000 refugees that the Arabs kick out.
	Okay, at for the same war, 700,000 Palestinians get kicked out.
	Those are the Palestinian refugees until today.
	How come until today there's um real apartheid laws against Palestinians and Jordan and Syria and Lebanon?
	They can't why can't those refugees get in Israel?
	Well, are these Palestinians?
	Uh you're saying that they're Palestinians kicked out in the Arab countries should take them.
	But then you're also saying that they weren't Palestinians.
	There was no Palestinian identity, even though they had been living in these areas indigenous for a long time.
	And it had been called Palestine since like the 130s.
	Well I'm saying a land without a people, a people without a land, yeah.
	That's so inconvenient.
	Actions have you know, they pretend like there's nobody there.
	Oh, there's nobody here.
	What are you gonna, you know, why are you giving us a hard time?
	You know, there's millions of people, you're just gonna discount five, six, seven million Palestinians like they don't exist.
	They're just a mirage.
	And hold hold on.
	Uh you you said in the debate with go ahead.
	Well, what wait, wait, what I'm saying is that actions have consequences.
	When you declare genocidal war on someone and you lose, and you also exile anybody from that ethnicity in your countries, all right?
	So the Arab world is making a statement, whether they they said it, and the statement proves it.
	They are one with the Palestinian people, they're willing to fight and die for them.
	And they did.
	Okay, if you're willing to kill people for the Palestinians, why are you not willing to give them a passport?
	When we Israelis, we Jews, we took in Jews from Ethiopia, Jews from Syria, Jews from Iraq, we gave them passports.
	Ethiopian Jews had to go to court to get let in.
	You guys didn't want to take them.
	They also they also saved them with Mossad, though.
	Why and then you start a eugenics program to sterilize their women and decrease their birth rate in half.
	So you listen, keep on obfuscating.
	What I'm saying is, how come Arabs are brothers enough for the Palestinians to kill for them, but not brothers enough to give them passport?
	Can you answer that?
	They have many of them have migrated out.
	The Palestinians don't want to go, they want to stay, they want to stay in their ancestral homes.
	They don't want to take the Palestinians.
	You think Palestinians in Jordan want to be kept as refugees and in Syria?
	You think they want to be in refugee camps, starving and getting UN handouts and not not being able to be lawyers, not being able to buy popularity.
	It's just like the left-wing Jews that want all these migrants to go into European countries.
	It's just like the other side of that.
	And doesn't the Talmud teach that Islam is supposed to stay over the land while you guys are gone?
	You're obfuscating again.
	I'm I'm I'm explaining something to you that it's a point that in all of your discussions about Israel, which you spend uh combined 100 hours doing, you never address the point that the actions of the Arab world, and Palestinians included, have consequences when you go to war against a nation.
	Resisting a takeover has consequences.
	You know what?
	Right.
	You could call it resisting a takeover, but just Zionist takeover.
	Yeah.
	It's an occupation to fulfill the prophecy.
	You said you said the creation of Israel fulfills prophecy.
	You said that in the captain uh Tizarian debate.
	They worked towards it to rebuild it.
	Yep.
	It's a full of a prediction, that's true, but also there have been Jews that remained in Israel since the destruction until now.
	They were not kicked out, they stayed.
	There was a contiguous presence.
	Not only was there a contiguous presence, but Jews all over the world never gave up the claim.
	They kept on saying, We're gonna go back, we're gonna go back, we're gonna go back.
	And when we have a chance, we went back.
	And you know what?
	We were willing to share with the locals.
	We didn't come to the Martin's.
	The religion, the religious ones don't want to share.
	No, we can't only Noahides are allowed in, Noahide servants.
	Guys, we're we're Israel is Jews like a democratic people.
	We vote.
	Okay, the majority of Jews were willing to share.
	Okay, were they extremists that weren't willing?
	Yes.
	The majority are willing to share.
	You know who wasn't willing?
	You know who said no to the partition plan?
	The Arab state.
	And you know how they said no?
	They invaded, and you know what they said when they invaded, they're gonna kill everyone.
	So by their belligerents, they caused Palestinian more suffering, and that continues to happen until today.
	Had the Palestinians, they would have had this is such does the Torah not does the Torah not condone the violence, genocidal ethnic cleansing of the holy land.
	You You keep going back to ancient religious texts that people don't the nation of Israel doesn't live by these texts.
	Okay.
	There's a small minority of religious people in Israel.
	And even them, they don't treat these tech, they don't treat like the biblical commandment of conquering the land as as the literal of how it's supposed to be done today.
	At most, it's an inspiration.
	Oh, we can take the land like you took it then.
	But no one is talking about it about uh the genocide.
	Israel has killed less Palestinians in Jordan, less Palestinians in Syria.
	Israel has been better to its Arab population than any other Arab state by every single metric.
	Human rights, religious freedoms, uh uh gender rights, sexual freedom, whatever you want to call that.
	Um they they can be uh supreme court judges, they can serve in the military and be officers.
	The conflict that we have with the Palestinians that remain belligerent, yes, we're winning the conflict, and we don't have to apologize for winning the conflict.
	You know why?
	Because we don't act any worse, maybe not much better, but I think better than our neighbors.
	Okay, this is how people act in conflict, and you guys are applying a double standard to Jews that you would not apply to any other nation, because I never heard one complaint from you guys about 3,000 Palestinians that were killed this year in refugee camps in Syria by Assad's people for no conceivable explanation.
	Nobody knows why they were killed.
	There wasn't even a UN thing to talk about it.
	3,000 Palestinians killed, who cares?
	But 200 Palestinians killed after I've never heard of that.
	This is interesting, but the Zionists control our media and in our politics.
	If the Zionist people are controlling the media, I think they would have seen that.
	I think we would have seen that.
	And how about the Israel?
	How about the Israeli role in organ harvesting, right?
	Oh, in the in these rec in these in these same refugee camps.
	There's there's complicity.
	Turkey, Turkey's involved, right?
	Israeli Turkey, the some of the other Arab countries, the the the ones you the crypto ones, the ones that you guys all control, the Sunni, the Sunni Arab countries that you guys have control for for a while now.
	I don't know if I want to end on organ harvesting, but go ahead, respond to that real quick.
	And if you got anything else, let's wrap this up because two and a half hours is getting long.
	I don't know anything about organ harvesting.
	I've I didn't have a chance to prepare rebuttals to organ harvesting blood libs, okay?
	So I'm sorry, guys.
	Uh we should have prepared more.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Anything else?
	Yeah.
	Things you want to do next.
	Yeah, I want to say I'm gonna have to have you on again, Judas, if you'll do it, because I've still got some some of the main things I wanted to bring up today, but we didn't even get to.
	I was just all uh responding to the the topics that were being discussed.
	What you focus a lot on religious stuff, not so much the occult uh uh control.
	But yeah, we could we could uh I try to I try to bring up the the issues where I know I can I can corner you on.
	Not that you can uh that you can uh slither or pill pull out of I'll I'll I'm gonna concede to you that you you do do a lot of research on like Talmud and Kabbalah, like you really do a lot of research, you have a lot of information.
	The fact that it's kind of slanted and unfairly one-sided, because you always judge uh judge an ancient text by modern standards.
	It's like the the first thing they teach you in modern people are reading it, yeah.
	But but but you're it influences it, but they don't read it the way you think they do, you know what I mean?
	Like most of these like Chabad guys that you always say they'll say something supremacists in day-to-day life, they're like the nicest people, they don't bother anyone, they're just like the Jews that Al describes the ones that he knows.
	Like we're it's uh it's a phantom, it's not a real issue.
	And uh regarding secret societies if they control the world, I don't know, man.
	I really like it sounds to me, doesn't sound very reasonable, you know.
	But I don't I can tell you I know things that you don't know.
	I don't have proof that it's not the case.
	It's like you don't have proof that it is the case, it's like an endless argument.
	There's there's secret Kabbalah rabbis and Freemasons pulling the strings.
	You don't think so?
	I uh I'd like to end, I'd like to end this.
	Yeah, go ahead, please by saying by saying that as just a person as a as a citizen of the world.
	I'm tired of the bloodshed.
	I'm tired of the carnage.
	I'm tired of seeing Palestinian babies being killed.
	I'm tired of the apartheid.
	I'm tired of your group.
	You can impact me negatively by usurping my government by being a parasitic organism that I have to fund.
	Not only do I not like Israel or the Israelis and their apartheid illegal occupation and their aggression and this hornet's nest that they've kicked up in the Middle East.
	All it doesn't matter what happens in the rest of the world as long as the Israelis are taken care of, right?
	It's all about them.
	I'm I'm tired of it, tired of it.
	Make peace, stop murdering babies, stop stealing lands, and get along with everyone so we can stop.
	And I don't like the idea of subsidizing uh, you know, this colonization project.
	I I shouldn't have to pay for it.
	It it to me, it sounds like you blame Israel for your personal issues.
	You said you sound personal issues, the the issues of the world, the disharmony in the world.
	I blame Israel for the disharmony in the world.
	Do you realize how you sound though?
	Like when you say something like that, like seriously, you if you want to be taken seriously, you make something like that.
	I am serious.
	Let me let me let me clarify my my kind of take on that.
	Is it's not it's not only the Zionist agenda and Jews behind thing, it's not every one of them, but that there is just this kind of from the Torah and from the Judaisation of the world with the Christians and even the Muslims, the whole Abrahamic dialectic I see is causing a lot of issues.
	Listen, I didn't again to us, it's like a leaked, you know, like the Wuhan Lab League.
	Like to me, the Abrahamic religion that's went out to the world, it kind of leaked out of us by force, the septuagem.
	That's our traditional understanding.
	We were never happy, we were never excited about it.
	We always saw that as something that could end badly for us and even for the world.
	We thought they would misinterpret it, they would treat it the wrong way, right?
	So I mean, I kind of get it.
	I kind of understand where you're coming from, but on the other hand, I don't disrespect, I don't disrespect Christianity and Islam the way you disrespect Judaism.
	Like I'm much more under you can come from today to talk about.
	You can't criticize it because you're almost uh uh like a dialectical mirror image of it in a way, right?
	You're Judaism is the progenitor of both.
	Yeah, it'd be like the the pot calling the kettle black.
	No, we are the progenitor, but I think that you have a very like very like that's an unfair, not just of Judaism, an unfair characterization of religion, which comes from like not being cognizant of the role that religion plays evolutionarily in helping humans deal with the world, helping humans deal with uncertainty, helping humans like manage their relationship with nature and with the supernatural, like you don't recognize that.
	So to you, you look at it literally, and if it doesn't make sense in 2021, then it must be the worst and have to be stamped out, and you go in this crusades against religions that aren't going anywhere.
	Christianity is not going anywhere, that neither is Judaism, nor is Islam.
	They're all gonna stay, and we're gonna have to learn to get along, you know.
	So how many have died because of it?
	Don't you don't you realize that if if let's say Israel never never uh flowered, never matured into a a state, and there was there's still Jews in in Germany, in Russia, across Europe, uh uh in America,
	whatever, and and there's some you know organic Jews in Palestine, all of this bloodshed could have been avoided, all of this carnage, but because you have to have that piece of real estate because God gave it to you because we know God's a real estate agent, you know, all this could have been avoided, and you guys don't give a shit.
	You don't care how many hundreds of millions die.
	Okay, so uh I I'm finding surprising that you would say, anyone would say that that all the bloodshed in the world is because of Israel.
	Not all, not all, but a lot of it.
	Think of think of all the conflict because of Zionism.
	Right.
	I don't see the conflict.
	No, I don't see it that way.
	I think that actually the wars against Israel had a lower death count than almost any of the other wars.
	Like people No, you're not including you're not including World War One and World War II to break down the Turkish caliphate and start the the plant the seeds for the Zionist project in the Middle East.
	We we disagree on that.
	I think World War I and World War II had different geopolitical goals that had nothing to do with Israel or Zionism.
	Oh Zionists, thankfully, took advantage of the real reality that happened, but it wasn't actually because of Zionists.
	That's another baseless assertion.
	Not that baseless.
	You just haven't researched it.
	Even if it wasn't there.
	Spelled it out.
	No, where the Napoleonic Wars, was that because of Zionism?
	Do you know the Napoleonic Wars?
	Is that because Zionism too?
	Well, they were definitely they were definitely involved in in uh the the Napoleonic Wars did did a great service to them, bringing down the kingdoms of of Christendom and uh taking a wrecking ball to create a new aristocracy of international banksters and and and traitors and you know a new aristocracy, right?
	Okay, it's Napoleonic War of the Zionists too.
	Okay, what about uh Genghis Khan's uh invasion?
	Did they Zionists?
	He killed didn't uh didn't Genghis Khan have a Jew and and some some Muslims in his court.
	I don't know, I'm asking you.
	Maybe Genghis Khan is also because of Jews.
	Well, remember, we said we said that that it's not all, and it's not every so this is kind of a mute point.
	Jews giving credit.
	I give him credit there.
	Yeah, there's evil people from all places.
	I said the hun, like we don't need more examples.
	Do you hey?
	I got a lot of super chats, some of them might be directed at you guys.
	You want to let me read through these real quick and then and then close this out for real?
	Because it I I wanted it to stay under two hours just so people will watch it.
	We could go.
	Yeah, let's go.
	Okay.
	Uh Johnny California says you're working hard, Adam.
	Thanks, Al and Judas.
	Uh Wallace says, based.
	We have support no more news, says Big John.
	King Schlag says, I'm not happy with your people's worldview, Judas.
	It has been negative to this world.
	Judas, nothing shows you except your people's book.
	What's the odds?
	Stop hurting everyone from King Schlag.
	To all three, what is the consensus on the Khazars?
	I'm gonna bring you back to talk on the Khazars, okay?
	More on Christianity and Maimonides.
	Kimberly says they should stop harassing white people, then yeah, we talked about that.
	Jays cry if white people show solidarity, nationalism.
	Yes, we covered that.
	Uh King Schlag, of all peoples on earth, yours is the most evil.
	Okay.
	Uh you aren't special, you are horrible from King Schlag.
	My lovely narcissist, cousin Judas.
	Are your bags packed?
	Uh okay, we're not gonna say that.
	That's this Hezbollah is gonna take your land or something like that.
	Ray Rose says, Judas, you're welcome to live in Palestine, brother.
	Think Ray Roy might be Palestinian.
	Also, fight your own battles against the Arabs and don't use and abuse our Christian Esau brethren.
	Okay, yeah.
	Don't the the power over the Christian Zionists.
	That's what I want to bring you over on next time to talk about.
	Ray Roy says, Israel's a cancer.
	Read the Quran and wake up.
	Okay.
	Ray Roy is a Muslim, apparently.
	I met Jay Supremacist at Children's Hospital in Boston, says Kimberly.
	He's defending bloodthirsty terrorist Jays.
	Jays invented genocide.
	I don't know if that's not true, because there's many many civilizations around before Jews.
	Thanks for the discussion.
	How many U.S. Jewish organizations does Judas belong to?
	Question.
	Zero.
	I live in Israel.
	Zero.
	Zero.
	But you're allowed to vote if you wanted to still.
	Thank you, Judas, for participating.
	Yes, I do appreciate you coming on.
	Would and I I like your your your even though you're fighting for your people and I disagree with you.
	I still uh respect your your fighting spirit to going on all these debates.
	It's really unique.
	Would Maccabeas debate Ryan Dawson?
	Yeah, we tried to set Ryan Ryan's being a diva and difficult to set it up with.
	What?
	Yeah.
	We'll try to get Ryan on to debate him too.
	May but maybe do it on the kill stream.
	You want to debate E. Michael Jones and who is the other Richard Spencer, you said.
	You won't get a better debate from anybody than me.
	The captain was pretty entertaining, though.
	Okay.
	30 second final statement from each of you.
	We'll let the uh chosen one go first.
	Uh who's chosen?
	You tell me.
	It's a trick.
	So it's chosen by who?
	Zero days without Hashem.
	By the unnamable one.
	Touch your grammaton.
	All right.
	My closing statement, guys, is that um I had fun.
	Thanks for having me on.
	Um I'm I I as a Jew, I defend my people, the interests of my people.
	I'm not gonna uh back down from that, as I said earlier, and I recommend you guys do the same thing.
	And uh if you judge us by the same standards that you judge yourself, you may find that we're not that different, you know.
	And uh yeah, that's it.
	That's all I have to say.
	There's more difference between the soul of a Jew and the soul of a gentile than uh what is it?
	A human species, different species.
	That's what the the Rebbe says about that.
	Anyway, go ahead, Al.
	I'll subscribe to Habad.
	Uh I wish this was you know uh strangled in its crib so we wouldn't we didn't have this kind of racism and and supremacy, and we could have a uh a real human family.
	I wish we had a uh uh uh a world where uh this group that ascended and and accrued such power over the last two thousand years, uh could understand the human family instead of a supremacist, hate-filled, uh racist uh attitude of subjugating everybody else and making their insane psychotic, right?
	Psychopathy, manifesting that into into the 3D world for pursuit of what a messianic prophecy fulfillment where they have achieved ascendancy and uh uh you know, above all other nations and feed off the riches of the nations.
	If you don't see how this is being checked off one at a time the Zionist state as a US taxpayer fighting Zion wars for the benefit of Israel, right?
	Check, check, check.
	It's going by the numbers.
	They're they are running the table.
	Okay, so I I would love for these people to you know to to you to be brought to heel, but it's not it's not going to happen until there's a catalyzing event, some kind of global revolution where the entire world stands up and says, No more, right?
	No more.
	Stop the madness.
	You didn't, you weren't chosen by God.
	You invented this theology, you chose yourselves, you worship yourselves.
	All right, Judas, if if you want to r respond just very quickly before we close it to any of that.
	Yeah, so um I don't think there's gonna be any world catalyst events that would uh be the final solution to your problems.
	I think the Jews have been around for a while and are gonna be around for a little while longer.
	Um no one's suggesting a genocidal solution.
	Talking about you guys to give up, give up the Talmud.
	Give it in the Torah, giving up the chosen delusion.
	I don't want anybody to die.
	Yeah, you wouldn't give up his Almud for if you Came out and told me I'm gonna give you a hundred million dollars, you never open up a Talmud folio again.
	I would say no.
	Love the Talmud, not giving it up.
	What if you were born Palestinian?
	Do you think you that you would care so much about the Talmud, or do you only like it because you were born to a Jewish family?
	That would be like me asking you, what if your son wasn't your son?
	Would you still love him as much as you love him?
	Yeah, the Talmud is my culture.
	Because your your father gave it to you.
	It's not just my father.
	It's like a it's a living tradition going back to my ancestors that we've been upkeeping faithfully at great personal cost for thousands of years.
	I'm not gonna give it up because some guy on YouTube or whatever and kill streamer is unhappy with my culture.
	Just like what are you talking about?
	Well, well, I'm not trying to be unhappy to change your mind.
	I'm helping to you to realize what it looks like to an outside perspective, and maybe that it's it's not true and it's actually nefarious.
	I'm willing to defend it for the fun of it, because I love it, but like I'm not giving it up, nor am I giving up my land or my identity.
	My hand is outstretched in peace to anyone who wants to live peacefully, and obviously as long as you get to steal their land.
	Now they can't survive no stealing anything.
	Alright, no one's stealing nothing.
	Okay, the land has been ours since before I think I think the bottom line is that.
	since you took it from the Canaanites.
	100% with Hadosh Baruch Hu and not the filth of the world.
	Alright, let's close it up, guys.
	Thank you, Judas Maccabeas.
	Uh, your links, any links you want me to put, I'll put in the description below.
	Same for Al.
	Appreciate it, Al, for uh for bringing the heat.
	Very good discussion.
	No more news.org, and I will see you guys all again very soon.
	Take care.

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