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May 26, 2021 - Know More News - Adam Green
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Know More News Commentary on Nick Fuentes Infowars Zionism Debate
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I would uh beg to differ.
I think that what we are doing are specific strikes against military targets inside Gaza that are part of the Hamas and the Islamic Jihad's military infrastructure.
My country's policies and funding will deny this mother's right to see children live.
Her own children live without fear and to grow old without painful trauma and violence.
Earlier Palestinian militant groups firing more than 200 rockets into Israel.
Most of the Hamas rockets stopped by Israel's missile defense system, or they fell short.
In Gaza, Israeli airstrikes have reportedly killed 28 people, including 10 children.
If you are in a fight where the other person cannot beat you, how hard should you retaliate when they try to hurt you?
It's Tuesday, May 25th.
The year is 2021, and it's 6 p.m. Central Standard Time.
And I'm coming to you from the InfoWars News Studios in Austin, Texas, I'm Alex Jones.
The fact that it's six o'clock on Tuesday, May 25th means we're having a big debate tonight.
We haven't had time here on InfoWars, which an official debate style forever.
Many years.
Forever.
Tonight it's going to be on one of the biggest subjects, the crisis, the ongoing Israeli crisis in the Middle East.
It was about a week and a half ago.
We'll be talking about Zionist power, hopefully.
Barnes was on Twitter.
They call themselves InfoWars, but how long has it been since they've had a debate about Zionism?
Uh Fuentes to a debate because Fuentes had challenged Dave Rubin to a debate.
And Dave Rubin, who I think is a nice guy and a smart guy.
He's been on the show before.
Um blocked Fuentes for whatever reason.
Uh and and that's not censorship.
That's his Twitter.
He's allowed to block him if he wants.
Taking Fuentes off a platform would be censorship.
I don't know why Ruben wouldn't do that, but suddenly uh the plate and said, I'd like to do it on the Alex Jones show.
Well, the Alex Jones show is a big syndicated radio show, 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. weekdays, and I also do a Sunday version, four to six p.m. that's live as well.
And there's about 14 minutes of ads an hour, and it's just not indicative.
It's not conducive as well as basically commercial free.
And I'm somewhat of a study of uh history.
I've read some of the debates by Greek philosophers, read some of the Roman senatorial debates.
I've uh reads, yeah.
Douglas uh debate.
Very interesting.
And and I've read some of Shakespeare's uh takes on some of the British debates and English debates that he watched 400 years ago or wherever it was, 500 years ago.
And so I thought, why not bring back a real debate about time?
Oh, okay and it gives people an opening statement and then uh brings out some some basic topics, and then lets the two people that are debating ask each other questions.
Jones is gonna interrupt and play damage control.
They're gonna be asked by the individuals to each other.
And I told them you'll find out the debate rules when you come on, but basically I'm gonna be taking a major back seat.
Uh again, an old-fashioned debate, it was a free-for-all.
We go for six, seven, eight, nine hours sometimes, and uh, you know, uh they would have multiple editions of newspapers where you might have an afternoon edition and then a later edition.
Dude, we know what debates are because they were you know tracking and writing down what was being said.
These were like a lot of people.
Somebody said Jones had Fuentes on yesterday and talked about what debates were for 30 minutes.
200 years ago, we've heard of them before, Jones ago with the Lincoln Douglas debate.
So I want to do a good job tonight, because this is an important topic, and I think both men are interesting and informative, uh, and and uh and I think their their their debate will be thought-provoking.
And I also then want to have other people come to InfoWars, this evil controversial place, because we have free speech and question everything, have other big debates on other big topics.
And so we're going to go to little special report uh dealing with destroyer's credit, he did bring me on of Project Blue.
What is this debate I keep hearing about, Henrik?
I don't know.
You want to hop on it, Henrik?
Joseph Watson from the UK to do a short interview with his view, because he's he's well known for not being pro-Israel, not being pro-Palestine and being tough on both groups, and I thought For being pro-Israel, you mean to first have Paul on.
Because when I picked the time, six o'clock when folks asked for the debate here, I thought that's a little early, though.
Seven o'clock Eastern, uh 5 o'clock mountain, uh four o'clock Pacific.
So we should have done it on his radio show.
Owen didn't say I backed out of a debate.
Yeah, right.
They can go.
I debated Harrison, I'm gonna ask you on Killstream for like two hours.
Or if not, they can stop at that point.
And then Owen Schreuer and Harrison Smith are gonna come in, and I'm gonna vomit disappear into a cloud of smoke, and uh, they're gonna take over for at least an hour and give you their take and take phone calls, which is the most important part of the night.
Your response would happen to the debate.
So we'll be right back after the special report with Paul Joseph Watson, and then the great debate with Nick Fuentes and Robert Barnes, and please don't forget Twitter and Facebook and others are censoring Band Out Video and InfoWars.com, the URLs themselves.
So because they're censoring those big URLs, we have a new So Jones has this guy on.
He he's Jones's lawyer and uh Matt Barnes.
Wait, is it Matt Barnes?
That that might be a basketball player.
Something Barnes.
He's uh he's a host on InfoWars.
He's always there in studio.
He's uh he might even be a paid employee.
He's Alex Jones's lawyer for some kind of case he had.
It's funny that somebody so close to Jones is such a uh an eager Zionist apologist that's gonna take up the other side uh to debate's.
I've seen Nick debate Zionist before, and he usually they called him Nick the knife.
He used to shred.
I hope that that he is gonna not hold back, bust out the knife.
I would love to see that.
You know, because when egos are involved, you don't want to be wrong.
He's gonna have to you can't pull any punches or else you'll lose.
So hopefully I will be singing Nick's praises after this.
I'm gonna run to the bathroom, get prepared.
Let you guys watch Kissinger.
John bound.
John Bowen, completely kosher, never the Zionist.
The one thing every man fears is the unknown.
When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by their world government.
And here America sits, vulnerable from a pandemic subjugation that has terrorized our rights.
White evangelicals, 45% say they won't get vaccinated, according to a Pew Research.
Uh Republicans, almost 50% of Republicans are refusing to get the vaccine.
So we won't reach herd immunity because of those particular groups.
So I say we need to shun those that refuse to get vaccinated.
Just like now in certain states, many states, I know in New York, um, there are signs on on uh storefronts on businesses all across the the the state.
No mask, no entry.
I think if you have not been vaccinated, no entry.
Infiltrated by decades of Marxist indoctrination that began in America's universities and has now permeated into America's elementary schools and destroyed our cities, while American police are increasingly unable to respond to 911 calls as their departments are hollowed out while criminals pour over our border.
Yeah, um, please hurry, because she it sounds like she's being assaulted right now.
It sounds like she's being raped currently.
We'll be out there as soon as possible.
As soon as possible on March 30th, for the Salt Lake City Police Department meant 28 minutes.
The stage is set for Kissinger's United Nations troops to take center stage, but they need that one event that will undeniably convince the public that their very existence is threatened.
The evidence of unidentified flying objects confronting the military is so prevalent that it is almost undeniable.
Absolutely extraordinary.
And every day it seems like new information drops, things that the public and the media weren't told.
So, for example, former director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe just threw into the conversation the other day the fact that the satellite imagery of all this and some of the speeds being reported seemed to blow certainly not HD cameras here out of the water.
We must be told what's going on here.
And we should think of this upcoming report to Congress as an intelligence assessment of the phenomenon itself, and one that's long ago.
But who is to say it isn't smoke and mirrors in order to unleash a more nefarious purpose?
An invasion by global governance in the form of the Antichrist.
The technology to create that illusion has long been available.
Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi.
You're my only hope.
Everyone's going to believe.
The technology move leaps and bounds over the last few years.
Maybe you caught Jesse's look at 3D volumetric displays a few weeks ago.
Now, researchers from the Interact Lab at the University of Sussex have created three-dimensional holograms you can hear and even feel.
They call their device the acoustic trap display.
Essentially, it's using sound to manipulate a tiny particle that traces out these images.
And the new world order is addicted to the big lie.
So what is the biggest lie they can tell?
John Bowen reporting.
Look, I don't really need to take Vatican.
Again, I want to thank everyone for joining us tonight, both the AMF affiliates, TV affiliates, cable stations, and especially all the great online activists and viewers, some who are pro-Israel, some that are pro-Palestine, some that are anti-war, but still believe countries are allowed to exist.
We are pre-Palestine tuning in, and we want to bring real debates back.
We want to bring long form debates back where the moderator just make sure they didn't go anywhere, Jones.
You guys bring them back as if nobody's been debating for the debate.
Where the moderators, who are they kidding, interject themselves and have a bias?
So again, that interview's coming up here live.
What about the kill stream?
Great debate.
What sports news is the way you can share that with Robert Barnes and Nick Fointes.
And remember, you can't share Infowars.com or Newsworth.com or even Band Off Video on Twitter or many other platforms because of the massive censorship.
That's why on a routine basis, we create a new URL so that you can do that.
And you can see on screen the new site we have, GreatDebate.news.
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So please take that URL and share it with everybody you know on Twitter.
We'll have Nick Fuentes and Robert Barnes coming up live here in just about 15 minutes or so.
But first I wanted to bring Paul Joseph Watson on from the UK to give a UK perspective on what he thinks is happening in the Middle East, because unlike the United States, he's very close to the Middle East, and the collapse of borders into Europe is also flooding into the UK as well.
Oh, wonder who's behind that?
Good to be here, Alex.
I call this morning protege, gatekeeper.
And talk about the Middle East.
You said, Well, I really I'm not on either side.
Well, I'm pretty much the same way.
Uh that's exactly why I want you here.
But what is your view?
Not on either side.
That's what Jones says.
He's such a fraud.
I got a whole video on Jones pretending to be neutral and being a huge shill.
I mean, my overall view, and I'm gonna get onto these lammification.
I know we're limited for time, but you've experienced this, Alex.
There's this grating obnoxious insistence on both the left and the right that you have to vehemently support Israel or Palestine.
And the one thing that pisses either side off the most, more than supporting Israel or Palestine is not supporting either.
It's because it's it's sitting on the fence while you're still supporting Israel.
Because I refuse to support either Israel or Palestine.
You f you refuse to condemn the Zionists.
That's what you're doing by saying you're neutral.
The US and Israel, as you know, Alex, it's uh most people have commented on this.
It's a one-way street.
Israel spies on the US within the US.
Thank you.
We had a story in 2019 where Israel literally put fake cell phone towers around the White House, around the lawn to spy on President Donald Trump.
You know, the story was briefly like.
And Trump said, I believe BB didn't do it.
BB said he didn't do it.
no consequences for that whatsoever.
With any other country, if they did that, to America, be an international scandal.
Why does Israel get away with it?
Why, for example, did Mossad, according to spies, hire Jeffrey Epstein to spy on a black male American politicians if you guys are supposedly such close allies.
And of course, we know Israel does this to many countries.
Why did we see five Israelis, some of whom were linked to Mossad, dancing when the planes hit the twin towers on 9-11, that never properly investigated.
Thank you.
Thank you, Paul.
This is this is going well so far.
In the throes of this Israel worship.
Viciously attacking, we've seen this many times, even Israel worship.
Viciously attacking and trying to deplatform conservatives who ask these kind of questions.
It seems that Israel first and not America first.
You know, they're more concerned, the likes of Crenshaw, Ben Shapiro, people like that.
They're more concerned.
Where was this?
Where was this rhetoric the last five years?
Boycott than protecting the free speech.
Shut it down, Paul.
So those are some of the cursory reasons why I don't support Israel.
I care about my country.
You care about your country.
I care about our alliance because I think it's beneficial to both countries.
I'm not in the religious type thrall of worshipping Israel at every possible corner.
Then you got the situation in the Middle East itself, Alex, where the Fuentes getting to him like most before it.
They're seeing Nick's popularity.
And I think it is forcing them to shift over.
I mean, Har Harrison.
This idea that anyone wants to be a chance to the low-key fan of No More News is complete bunk.
Biden just promised hundreds of millions more dollars in arms money to Israel.
We had 735 million in precision guided missile weapons to Israel.
The Iron Dome itself is basically almost completely paid for by US taxpayers.
And yet when you had the US Army tried to build its own version of the Iron Dome, Israel refused to give them the source code despite US taxpayers essentially having paid for its creation.
So the question is, what does the US ever get back from Israel?
Stability in the Middle East.
I don't think that's the case to any degree.
We saw with the Obama administration.
Years and years of funding is...
Leo Clapp?
I know, this is...
I'm impressed so far.
...led to the refugee crisis, which led to terror attacks, destabilization of European countries, crime waves, sexual assaults.
So that's why I don't take either side, because both parties in my...
All that's going on, and you're not going to oppose the Zionists over there.
They've taken over our country over here, but you're not going to oppose them over there.
It has malevolent effects.
They want to take the land from the Palestinians and then rule over the whole world.
I don't want to get myself on just an Israel bashing.
There it is.
Jag.
But there it is.
I'm very frustrated that Netanyahu, when Trump asked for support, when the election was clearly being stolen.
Uh called Biden the president and went along.
So that's that's your only problem with Netanyahu.
I don't want to start Israel bashing.
Now is Klaus Schwab saying we want implantable chips in the children.
That's what Klaus Schwab is saying.
So focus on focus on Klaus Schwab.
Yeah, he's not working with Netanyahu in the fourth industrial revolution.
The Davos group.
Now, that said, it doesn't mean I'm siding with the Palestinians or with Hamas or Hezbollah or any of that as well.
In fact, I see the dialectic of the Bilderberg group, the Davos group, the UN admitting they caused the Arab Spring, destabilized our allies.
There was no Arab Spring in Palestine.
Schwab is German, so he's up for grabs.
Focus on the goy.
Totally silent.
So there's a larger globalist geopolitical system playing our nations off, and we should just recognize that Israel is just one more pawn and all that.
Oh, there it is.
Just a pawn.
We're all just pawns of who, Jones.
Uh to pawns of what I'm tired of it.
I don't like it if any other government did it.
Now, China, obviously, can be a good thing.
Chosen ones are just pawns, is 20 times worse.
I don't think Israel's out to destroy the US.
Oh, at the same time, certainly not lifting.
Yeah, they want to eradicate the descendants of Esau and destroy Edom.
It's a diverse group of people over there, dozens of political parties, uh, whether it's you know Christians or Orthodox Jews or liberal Jews, I mean uh ascitic, it's all going on that that you have a right to own guns, but then we see the ADL and other leftist Jewish lobbies calling for the abolition of American uh gun owners.
Uh and so I'm I'm just really, really concerned, and and I always hear about how they're the democracy in the Middle East and they're this gallant ally.
Okay, great.
I'd like to see Israel no need to defend American values more and not adopt uh Klaus Schwab, Eurocentric systems that are more akin to Adolf Hitler.
And then and then he's always reinforcing the whole Zionist narrative.
If you look at who is behind the major deplatforming efforts, that's primarily in the US.
Couldn't get through it without mentioning works Jewish.
You know, every time a conservative gets banned by the mob, it's ginned up by those entities, by those organizations, even if they support Israel vehemently, doesn't protect them from being deplatformed, banned, and censored.
On the flip side, Alex, you talk about the UK perspective.
You know, I don't see gangs of Jewish men abducting and raping children and sex trafficking children in my country.
Oh, you haven't seen that reported, huh?
I see gangs of Jewish men plowing into people in trucks on Westminster Bridge or London Bridge.
That's Islamists that do.
Human trafficking in Israel Jewish men burning down churches across Europe.
Again, that's Islamists doing that.
But again, you mentioned by the very little ISIS, they allowed them to metesticize in the region.
We know what they think about the sheikses.
Don't get me wrong.
Don't try to kid us.
One of the biggest hindrances, Alex, to the free Palestine movement is how free Palestine protesters in the West behave on a regular basis, as they've done over the past two weeks, which is to say, violently, atrociously, and stupidly.
The past two weeks, because of this crisis in the Middle East, we've had gangs of Islamists roaming around London, not only attacking Jews, but attacking inanimate objects.
It's like, oh, look, there's a nice car in an area of the United States.
Oh, well, chances got attacked.
Yeah, I'm sure that'll free Palestine.
Yeah, that's not helping.
We've seen the videos, we've featured them.
Hanging out of sunroofs with bullhorns proclaiming how they're going to rape Jewish kids.
So I'm sure threatening to the Israelis do do vile stuff like that as well, too.
You just he's just choosing not to tell you.
So I'm not going to throw my lot behind those people because of the way they behave and the way they atrociously atroach.
Nothing atrocious about what the Jews believe and say about enslaving all of the Arabs.
Well, I totally agree with you, Paul, because let's just say it.
Sasha Barako and the ADL, all this, literally says arrest Mark Zuckerberg because he's not censoring enough.
So that's a good thing.
These guys are are they just so ignorant about Chinese Mexican Talmud and the Zohar?
And then the Muslims blow up the non-radical Muslims, they're taking over everywhere.
They're having six children on average.
Europeans are having one and a half kids.
Whose prophecy does that fulfill, Alex?
But I see groups are rabbis not celebrating this.
Against what's left of the West, I see.
Who is funding Calurgy, Jones?
By the U.S. Rothschild and Warburg.
Who controls the media and the politicians that are pushing this for my incarceration?
And so all I know is the closest thing I've seen to Hitler is the EU, again, linked up with these left groups of big tech, literally trying to annihilate me because I'm a white Christian.
As if the Jews love the white Christians.
They're also sending hundreds of millions of dollars more in aid.
So they get some stuff right, and then they get some other stuff just totally wrong.
...criminal people smuggling wave, which is then exploited by Islamists to carry out attacks in Europe.
For those who don't know, 15 years ago you talked about it.
Yeah, he's never said barb never played the Barber Spectre clip ever.
Good point, White Falcon.
The magnitude is to the extent where the fathers would find out that their daughters were being Groomed, abducted, raped by these Islamist gangs, they would show up to the houses where they knew it was happening.
The police would then turn up and arrest the fathers.
This has happened numerous towns, probably at least a hundred now over the past ten years or so.
They got caught in Rotherham and the local.
The right wing causes the destabilization.
Literally left wing brings them into the European countries.
The clash of civilizations, Gog and Magog, playing Ishmael and Eda Esau off one another.
So you have the grooming scandal.
That's the plan.
The plan instigating it.
...and being funded by the Biden administration, opening up the floodgates once again.
We just had the four year anniversary of the...
Who's attacking all of the anti-immigration people in these countries?
What organization?
The Obama administration, the Biden administration is sending hundreds of millions of dollars to these entities that incentivize that refugee wave which is exploited.
What about like there was there was all those Israelis that raped that girl's big in the news too?
Like stop, it's only going to get worse given the destabilization we've seen so far under Biden.
And I'm not saying that there isn't rape gangs in European countries.
I just see who's behind it.
The Israelis weren't letting the Muslims up to their dome of the rock, they weren't letting them do their rituals as well.
And so it looks like Netanyahu in a lot of trouble indicted has used Corona virus and now stirring up the Palestinians.
I do not support their horrible activity and behavior to have a fight as a political diversion.
It's a nice diversion for Joe Biden as well.
The nice accusation there.
I'll take that.
This continued distraction from things.
And we got to hand it to Trump.
There was a lot more peace in the Middle East when he was president.
Why do you think that was?
Well, because he was making peace deals with a bunch of different countries, and now suddenly the whatever the peace deals have been made.
They didn't make peace with Palestine.
What do those peace deals have to do with this?
Rainbow flags painted on them.
So the entire left wing anti-war protest movement doesn't give a damn.
And then again, there's a Venn diagram intersection.
Trump made peace with countries that they weren't at war with.
With Black Lives Matter agitators.
You look at George Floyd Square today.
What's right in the middle of it?
A giant Palestinian flag.
They're the same people.
There's a gunshot.
Antifa's teaming up with the Zionist groups as well.
So why Antifa supports Israel and goes after the Nazis, Palestine.
I'm not going to be able to do that.
And anybody that's anti-Zionist people given their ideology.
All the top Democrats all support Israel, Schumer, Pelosi, all of them.
Which is why, again, I support neither side, and it's okay to have that opinion.
You refuse to condemn the Zionist agenda.
gatekeep the Zionist agenda.
Yeah.
And other groups to constantly and continually claim that I'm an Israeli shield.
Never been to Israel, uh, but all because I'm not against Israel.
And if you take Muslims, they'd all be killing each other even more.
This is word for word clips I have of him.
They need to have a reformation.
But that said, Netanyahu and implantable chips and freedom bracelets.
I mean, my God, just because he's, you know, Israeli and the Jews have been picked on by Hitler, doesn't mean then that Netanyahu rules.
I just never been to Israel.
That settles it, yeah.
I'm against French.
I don't like what uh Boris Johnson's turned into.
I love the UK.
That's a lot of my head.
Never been to Israel.
His go-to line.
I guess you could never push Zionist propaganda talking points if you've never been there.
Because I know you don't want to have a dog in the fight, not because you're trying to stay out of it, but because both sides are just out of control.
Oh, sure.
Both sides are so we're staying out of it.
Under physical siege from the Muslims.
I mean, you you lived in France.
We're under siege from the Muslims.
Okay, yeah.
That's who's censoring my channel is the Muslims, right?
Your dad, you know, it's a manager.
That's why I have my website was banned and targeted by Stop Anti-Semitism.org because the Muslims are taking over.
That's why we can't boycott Israel.
you described before it was even admitted that that that france is trying to make it illegal to criticize israel islamic invasion and i wish israel would stand up with us against it instead their politicians seem to be working behind the seams with the muslims Yeah, keep the victimization alive.
I know exactly.
That's what that's what he's doing every time he reinforces that letters, several letters written last month by both active duty and ex-military generals, and indeed there was a police, a big letter written by ex police, 93 police officers signed it, former police officers in France saying that if you don't get control of these Islamist factions in France who routinely riot and burn down cities just like Black Lives Matter does when there's a confrontation between police and criminals.
If you don't get control of that, they're gonna take political power and they're gonna impose Sharia law in even more areas, and it's become gonna become something akin to what Michel Wellbeck talked about.
How many times have they talked about Noahide laws?
The threat of Noah every fifth fifty states incorporated the Habad Lubavitch Rebbe Noahide laws.
When have you talked about it, guys so they can guarantee the Islamists won't burn it?
Well, that's right.
The left is allied with Islam, they don't even deny it.
If you put up a word, the left is like the communists aren't all voting for the planet is under Islamic control, and Islamic countries don't allow Christians to live in them unless they're Syrian or Egyptian, and those are the countries that the left is Jews live in Iran supported overthrowing to then blow up all the churches.
I mean, why do you think they burn them down in Israel?
For supporting Islam.
As if as if the Jews love the love the churches.
Why are they on the side of authoritarian people?
Because destabilization and chaos creates power vacuums, which then they can fill by centralizing power around their global government.
They don't want the world.
They don't fight control borders.
All we're asking for in England is border control like Israel has.
But apparently that's verboated now, Alex.
We've got a conservative.
I support border control for Palestine in nineteen forty eight.
illegal immigration to double their land taken by the zionist supremacist fanatics when they come in on the boats through the channel tunnel into southern england putting them up in four-star hotels at taxpayer expense while claiming in their manifestos that they're trying to reduce immigration so i never thought we're going to get a whole pjw zio breakdown like
Like Israel has, and for them to actually crack down on that criminal smuggling operation that sends those quote refugees to the channel.
Jewish terrorists took over Palestine by deception and by force.
be like if if white people became a minority in america and we were being persecuted and then you say oh i support the minorities that are persecuting the the white people that's the situation in palestine right now stability border controls that israel enforces for its own sake and maybe they can try and crack down on that but then again the biden administration is funding the refugee wave anyway while funding to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars missiles to israel people on the left all support
Israel too.
I just want them out of it, and I want to do it.
They make it a false dialectic that it's a left-right thing.
Describe briefly in closing, and I appreciate your time tonight.
I know it's late in London, what it's like to live in London now, or what it's like to live in the world.
It's like taking over.
It's been conquered.
According to uh the rabbis in Europe, that's what they say.
But what's it like to live in the middle of that?
It's it's better in London.
Last time I went to France, so I went to France in 2015, right before the big migrant refugee wave happened, and it was it was still generally okay if you stayed in the major tourist areas.
The next time I went back to France in December 2016, after a lot of the migrant refugee crossings happened, it was literally mattresses on the streets getting harassed in the main wealthy tourist areas.
Of course, we were there during the Paris massacre.
The main suspect of that, Abdeslam was literally able to hide out in Molambeek, Brussels, because it's this no goes.
That's a good point.
What do we have like uh five minutes talking about uh Israel and in fifteen or twenty talking about Islam?
Because they'll get attacked by the local population.
Same with Sweden, you know, firefighters, ambulance crew can't even go into many areas, even postal workers, mail workers refuse to deliver.
Where they have their own ambulances and their own laws and stuff.
But everything they're saying about them, you could also say about the Zionists.
And if many cases worse, like delivering The mail.
It's not that bad in London.
Like in many American cities, you have the elite importing a huge class of slave labor so they can enjoy uh relatively wealthy lifestyles and they need that constant supply of cheap labor.
Everybody else is moving out of London, moving out of the big cities.
When is Jones ever talked about what Jews believe about Christians and their end times prophecy?
When is Jones ever played you Barbara Spectre or showing you a Talmud quote with fire?
Uh, one last question, because Black Lives Matter is funded by Soros, so is the Islamic uh movement right down to the debit card Soros gives them.
An InfoWars.com article.
But this is all over mainstream news.
Uh Black Lives Matter activists was shot in head by four black men at 3 a.m. gang relationships.
I thought that the debate was supposed to start at 4 30.
I'm sorry, it's 4 30 right now.
It was supposed to start 30 minutes ago.
I didn't know they were going to have Paul Joseph Watson's commentary here.
It's the same in the UK, the same in Africa, the same here in the United States.
It doesn't matter where.
Uh there is that proclivity.
It it is just a fact.
Um, and but boy, now they shut that down as soon as that came out.
Here she is, rioting and you know, yelling and uh uh part of all this to stop the epidemic of whites killing blacks, but the numbers just don't show that.
And and I and I say she's killed, they say she's fighting for her life.
I'm I'm teleprompter free here.
Black lives matter act was shot in the head by four black men.
Um they had said earlier was it was attacked by white people.
Uh, why does the media also work to hide that fact?
Because they don't want it to be exposed.
The fact that the question why does black lives matter not care about black lives when they're taken by other black people?
Because then they wouldn't be able to suck up the 70 million dollars in donations that BLM in the US has sucked up over the past year alone.
You have this tragic case of this militant BLM leader being shot in the head.
CNN, Alex literally published an article a few hours ago refusing to mention the fact that the police have already said, and indeed her own friends have said, that it had nothing to do with political revenge attacks.
They said she was getting death threats, nothing to do with that whatsoever.
It was four black gang members who showed up at a house party on Saturday night, sprayed the place, and she was unfortunately caught up in the middle of it.
CNN publishes an article, refuses to even acknowledge that that happened.
In uh George Floyd Square today in Minneapolis.
You have again they're hoisting the Palestinian flag.
As I said, you had gunshots ring out while the news reporters are literally talking about police reform being the main process.
Well, that's like these women killed in South America, uh, East Asia, Central Asia, very dangerous areas of Eastern Europe.
A lone woman will just go into very, very dangerous uh Al-Qaeda areas and then get captured, raped, and murdered because they literally believe it's a stereotype lie that those men would do that to them because they've been taught it's the West that's evil and bad.
Uh just the gullibility of these people is staggering.
Many such cases, Alex.
You've featured them many times before.
The Scandinavian hikers, the two females in Morocco, were literally posting Facebook posts in the weeks before they went into these ISIS-controlled remote regions of Morocco whining about Islamophobia.
A few weeks later, they're literally tragically beheaded while pleading for their lives.
And there are so many cases of that.
All right, Paul Joseph Watson Daily does a great job with his website, Summit.news, and he hosts uh Tuesdays, the fourth hour of my show.
Paul Watson Summit.news.
Thank you for your comments.
Watson's paid a lot to gatekeep this issue.
Okay, thanks, Alex.
All right, there goes he was giving him a hundred thousand a month, is what I remember being reported.
Our uh debatees or debateors up on the Skype right now.
So we're gonna go to a brief special report by Greg Reese dealing with the mysterious death of the inventor of the PCR test and Dr. Anthony Fauci's greatest nemesis.
We're gonna go to this quick report and we'll be back for the live, uncensored debate between Nick Fuentes and Robert Barnes on the Mid East crisis.
I'm Alex Jones, this is the InfoWars Network.
Tomorrow's news today, stay with us.
John Swin exposed the enemy in the chat, says that they are professional liars, yes, very highly paid gatekeeper propagandist.
You know, it's they got me they got me excited there for a second, where they dropped a couple good truth bombs, and then then they followed it up with probably eighty twenty of about Islam.
And what they were saying, you know, to a large degree, some of it was true, but then it's the lies by omission that Israel is also involved with some of those same things.
Like assuming that like Islam hates white Christians, but but that's you know, the Jews the the the Habad Lubavitchers and the Jews over there all love white Christians in Europe and stuff.
It's so disingenuous to present it one side like that.
Masters of disinfo.
Yeah, I thought Schreuer was supposed to be on there too.
Troyer Harrison Smith, I'm rooting for Harrison too.
I've been I've been i uh interjecting little things on Twitter since they announced this about how I hope I hope that uh Harrison and Nick mop the floor with these guys.
The fact that Jones claims that he's um neutral.
I just while this is uh loading, I'm gonna have to find that uh Jones Palestine.
Let's see if I can find that video.
Alex Jones, Palestine.
This is neutral.
He's always claimed he's neutral.
Everybody wants you to take sides.
I'm on the Palestinian side or the Israeli side.
I'm not involved in Israeli politics.
I've been neutral in Israel because it's it's it's a politically correct subject that's just fraught with mental illness.
I don't like the idiocy of people that are either for Israel or against Israel.
So I'm always trying to say I'm neutral.
I understand that you're pro-Israel.
I look at this completely neutral and cold.
And again, I'm not for it or against it.
I'm being a political atheist, just giving you the pieces right now.
You can make your decision.
We report you decide to steal the Fox maxim.
The Fox maxim.
Palestinians are kind of like the Californians of the Middle East.
They're not even Californians, they're not even Palestinians.
They're just people kicked out of all the other Arab nations that have run there to be part of a cause, part of a fight, because most of the Palestinians were never in quote Palestine or where or where Israel uh now is, where Jerusalem is, predating Palestine, as it's been called for a thousand years.
Because this, ladies and gentlemen, is a Palestinian, which which means basically a vagabond in the Middle East.
You look at who's starting these rebellions and these attacks, it's Palestinians because they don't even exist, folks.
They're just people that migrated into that area and want to take it over.
It's just it's a made-up thing.
Any Arab will tell you, or any Muslim will tell you that Palestinians, 24 7 are trying to take over your political process.
And wherever they go, discord terrorism starts, and then they're gonna start even bigger wars.
You'll never satisfy the so-called Palestinians.
The Arab countries won't take one of them.
What does that tell you?
Because everywhere you take them in, they try to overthrow you.
It's what they do.
And you know what they do to holy sites?
They blow each other's holy sites up.
So you let unfettered Islamic takeover happen in Jerusalem, guaranteed within one year, Dome of the Rock, all of it is gonna get blown sky high.
Because that's especially what the Wahhabiists do.
And I'm not against the Muslims, but they've got 99% of the territory in the Middle East.
They're always killing each other.
And Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, none of those countries will take any of the Palestinians.
They don't want them.
They won't take one of them.
Israel wants them to take it.
Most of them are just Arabs that have gone into the area and want to be in Israel.
Lies and Israel.
This is like war criminal level lies to say that they didn't slaughter Palestinians' villages and kick them all out of their homes.
He says, Oh, they're just trying to get in.
This this is you can't say that you're neutral and then say something like that.
That's why he's a gatekeeping Zionist fraud.
One example right there, no disputing it.
But hate the United States.
Oh, and what are the folks doing?
They're trying to knock down the fences and climb over for an intifada.
You've got your nice mix of you know, suicide bombings going on.
So it's tribal warfare.
What do you think they're doing with Israel?
Doesn't do it in eight years.
Twenty something days out.
We're not twenty days out.
He says, Oh my gosh, you've got to merge.
You've got to let all the Palestinians in Robert Barnes had this idea.
Nick Fuentes had originally challenged someone else to this debate, and they did not wish to do it.
But Robert Barnes said he would love to debate him and put forward the idea to do it here.
Now, for a lot of folks that have never read about uh debates that happened in the 50s and 50s, or even the baits that happened hundreds of years ago, like the Lincoln Douglas debate.
Ever heard of it?
What's a debate?
There's two men on a stage who would go at it for hour after hour after hour.
Uh, and one might go for 10 minutes, and one would go for five minutes, and then the crowd would shout for them to be quiet, and then the other person would respond.
So we're gonna go back to basically how debates were done until the 60s and 70s when the media took over, and they weren't debates anymore.
They were basically the media being able to frame everything the way they wanted to do it.
And so this is a debate about the ongoing crisis since Israel was founded in the late 1940s in the Middle East, what's known as Palestine, and what Nick Fuentes' real views are on this as an American.
Uh just share me this.
outspoken about not being Israel and taking too much AIDS given to them and being a critic of Israel.
And Robert Barnes is a constitutional lawyer who thinks the Israelis have been defending themselves and doing the right thing.
Both men are well-known.
Both men are well spoken, both men have their own views, and it's demonized to even have a real debate in America.
You're supposed to have either two totally polarized views, uh, but but nothing in between.
Well, tonight, this is long form, uncensored.
It's gonna go as long as these gentlemen want it to.
The crew is ready to go two, three hours if they want.
Or we can stop in an hour or 90 minutes.
Here on air.
And if it uh comes up the way that Nick Fuentes calls it, he will go first with a five-minute opening statement.
If not, here we go.
And then we will move forward uh with three minute and then two minute uh counters, and then I've got a few questions, and then they can begin questioning each other the way old-fashioned debates were done.
So, Nick Fuentes, uh, we'll uh we'll let uh uh beauty go before age here, uh, and uh we will let you uh look at me.
I'm just like on the panel with a side of the coin that's for right now.
Okay, I call heads.
All right, Nick Fuentes calls heads.
And it's tails, so it goes to Robert Barnes.
Five-minute opening statement on his position uh on the Middle East crisis with Israel and the Palestinians.
Here we go versus Fuentes's that he's been critical of.
So Robert Barnes, thanks for being here.
You got the first five minutes.
Sure.
Uh thanks, Alice.
Uh, it's good to be here.
I think in general, the big question is whether Donald Trump's position on the Middle East and his policies on the Middle East were the right ones.
Now, those policies often confuse almost everybody on the uh pre-existing ideological.
Jealous of his chair already.
He uh basically upset and offended the neocons who had used Israel as a fig leaf for their own warmongering empire building in the Middle East.
Oh, wow, scapegoat those Jewish neocons as a foil for for the war on terror.
Yeah, not Netanyahu already.
His policies offended the anti-Israeli, more isolationist right, which effectively saw inter uh isolation as the effective solution and wanted more opposition to Israel's policies, as well as the pro-Palestinian hard left, which also opposed Israel for its own independent reasons.
And Trump took path because he recognized the great threat to America out of the Middle East is Islamo fascism, and it has been for more than a century.
He also understood Jewish supremacy in Israel secondary in that context.
He understood that waging wars and intervening and trying to establish democracies and doing regime change was a mistake of both the neocons and the neoliberals.
He also recognized that engaging Israel, using Israel as an essential ally, defending Israel in the court of public opinion, defending Israel in the courts of Congress, defending them all the time to the United Nations and provide them everywhere from everything.
Enable the U.S. struggle against Islamo fascism rise.
We have to do it because the Arabs see how they play the sides off one another.
Oh, we have to support Israel because of the Arabs.
Uh indeed, that's the Islamo fascists.
The Arabs don't like us because of Israel.
One of the problems has been people's willingness to buy into the various anti-Israeli conspiracy theories that these days predominantly animate out of Al Jazeera, which is funded by Cutter.
Conspiracy theory.
Oh, the Al Jazeera lobby with all the undercover footage.
Yeah, that's all conspiracy theories.
You frauds.
Fucking fraud.
These guys are traitors.
Was to use the values of the opposing empire against them through means and methods of deception.
And so they have taken old Nazi anti-Semitic conspiracy another anti-Jewish conspiracy.
There we go.
Anti Israeli conspiracy theory.
Okay, there it is.
All criticism is a conspiracy.
There we go.
Same old BS.
Uh, from uh every war that's waged in the Middle East is really Israelis doing.
And that it's only because of the Palestinians poor abuse that we have any conflict in the Middle East and that Islamo fascism exists.
No lie and a deception and a dangerous one.
Uh one that various presidents of both the left and Greater Israel.
They don't talk about Greater Israel and that various ideologies believe today.
The Zionist agenda just to steal the land, their gods chosen.
Focusing on opposing Islamo fascism.
That is the great threat to the Western system of values and Western civilization and the United States of America itself.
And in that capacity, and in that context, there is no better ally than the country of Israel.
No greater ally and in terms of its military allegiance to the same cause.
They didn't even join the Iraq war with us.
We're talking about the court of history, the court of law, the court of public opinion.
There's many grounds to defend Israel and the choice between Israel and the Palestinians.
On almost every area, the Israeli position is usually the right one.
This goes beyond that.
A real politic agenda of the kind of right about everything.
Every issue.
And we should continue to defend it.
Come on, Nick.
Come on, Nick.
Used four minutes of his time.
Where's the knife?
Uh waves that extra minute and goes to Nick Fuentes for your five minute over the intro, though, not the response.
Okay, thank you very much.
Well, uh, first of all, I just want to say I am a fan of Robert.
I did a little banter on Twitter earlier this week to kind of hype things up, but before I get started, I just want to say I was a big fan of his coverage during Stop the Steal.
That was a critical important time in American history.
Yeah, that all worked out so well.
So I just want to say great work, great work.
Getting me on the no fly list.
I don't know if he feels the same way about me, but that's okay.
So to dive into the central point that I want to make, um, and then I'll rebut some of what Robert said in his opening statement.
To start out with my opening statement, I want to say that initially I was a Zionist big supporter of Israel.
When I first got into politics when I was in high school, I remember making a lot of the argument that I've heard Robert make in the past about how Israel is a lone democracy in the Middle East, that the Jewish Israeli civilization is far more tolerant, liberal, and democratic, and the fascistic Arab Muslim civilization uh that prevails in Arab Palestine or elsewhere in the Middle East.
I myself have made the argument that Israel is an underdog, a small country surrounded by hostile enemies, and they were the subject of an invasion from Arab coalition forces four times in the twentieth century.
And you know, so long story short, I I've heard all the arguments, I've made those arguments myself.
But what I started a real once I got into college with uh I I went to college in twenty sixteen was my freshman year, which coincided with the twenty sixteen election and the rise of Donald Trump.
My twenty three, twenty-four.
He started watching no more news and got base.
He said he has said that he watched me.
Yeah, particularly at thought leaders like Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Mark Levin, and many others, and I said, Wow, what's with the focus on Israel?
Because I would find that when I was trying to find coverage of issues like the economy or the election or immigration, I would find I fell for Alex Jones article about Israel and Palestine from Craig University, Daily Wire, Breitbar, etc.
And I used to wonder why.
I always had my doubts, though.
I knew deep down on this issue.
And over time, I I realized the answer.
It's that the people that were running those outfits were Jewish Zionists who added interest.
They had a special sort of allegiance to chosen because of their ethnicity.
Prophecy hardcore Jewish Zionists, and so they use their platform to promulgate a pro-Israel Message and particularly about the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
And so I started to peel back the layers and say, well, what is we're both under Zog occupation?
Say it, Nick.
You tweeted it.
It was huge.
Say it.
Our foreign aid is both under Zag the one-sided, unconditional aid that we give to this country.
It can't be justified on strategic grounds, more than the other.
Both occupied.
He tweeted that.
We're both occupant.
He said Palestine's not the only country that's occupied by the Zionists.
After I was calling them out.
We can share intelligence.
Israel provides a strategic location, and we both are against Islamo fascism.
That is the benefit, and that's why we give them so much aid.
And I would posit that the reason we support them is not for any interest that Israel serves on our end.
It's because of a powerful and influential Israel lobby.
We know that Donald Trump was funded by Sheldon Adelson.
He was a single issue donor.
He was also the largest individual donor in the 2016 and 2020 elections.
And we know what is supposed and Proud Zionists.
America last Israel first foreign policy, even unfortunately in the Trump administration, too, is because of special interest in money in politics.
not because Israel provides any special benefits with America, because they don't.
All right, you took about four minutes as well.
Again, that's Nick Foyntes.
And I have a lot of questions.
So much truth compared to so much lies from Barnes.
And I've got some of those.
Jones is sweating.
Look at Jones sweating.
He's not even talking, but he's sweating.
He's glistening.
So now I'm going to give you both a chance to address each other with an opening uh question.
So let's go to Barnes first.
Respond, Nick.
He debated Duke years ago, got slaughtered, and then took pulled down the video.
Nick's position.
No joke.
True story.
And then he can respond to it.
Sure.
So I think on the question of foreign aid, there's a common misapprehension.
We're not talking about foreign aid.
We're talking about Zog power.
Trying to aid the country it's giving that money to.
Uh similar to the way uh uh the the king here uh justified various aspects of saying he was uh freeing Africa, helping the uh the Belgian Congo by conquering it.
Uh, you can read Lord Conrad for what his experience was there.
In my view, that if, for example, here's the best illustration to give you an idea that how much our foreign aid is not being driven by foreign nations, but is being driven by our own U.S. institutional interests in order to procure leverage, we're only supporting Israel makes us hated around the world, it puts us at risk.
Five times more than Israel does from the United States and foreign aid.
Indeed, if you look at a per capita basis for globalists, Nick's gonna refute this one.
So the number one recipient per capita foreign aid around the world.
The question with foreign aid becomes He's already laughing.
Nick refuted this in his Dave Rubin.
It would basically be about a three percent budget increase for them to cover the gap.
The real impact won't really be on Israel.
The impact will be.
Barnes is like the type of guy that likes to talk, but is annoying to listen to.
Iraq and F. Nick is smart and well spoken, but this guy is just like uh Islamic uh nations.
And so the question is, do we really want to forfeit all of our leverage by foregoing military aid and foreign aid, especially when most of that foreign aid is going to be a threat?
Leverage on U.S. defense industry and U.S. jobs.
Okay, Nick Foint says your response to that.
Here we go.
Uh yeah, well, I would say so to get on that last point.
You said that the foreign aid subsidizes American defense industry, but Israel, unlike any other country, gets to spend twenty-six percent of their foreign military financing on their own domestic defense industry, unlike any other country.
No other country gets that deal.
Only Israel can spend it a quarter of it domestically.
I would also say, what exactly is the leverage that we're buying?
Almost every American interest that we have in the Middle East, particularly in Israel-Palestine, Israel disobeys us on.
You know, for example, Donald Trump in one of his first press conferences in 2017 with BB Netanyahu turned to him and said, Hey, we'd appreciate it if you stop expanding the civilian settlements in the West Bank, which has been the official U.S. policy for uh the West Bank since 1967.
And then Netanyahu went and authorized the largest expansion of civilian settlements, excuse me, civilian settlements in the West Bank.
And Trump did nothing.
And we know that this Has been the policy of Israel since 1965 is expanding settlements in the West Bank in, you know, against the interests of America, against what America wants.
We also know that Israel is uh not signing the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
They refused to ratify the chemical and biological weapons.
They stole the nukes from us.
We also know that Israel is trying to create conflict in Syria.
In 2017, America said they were no longer pursuing regime change against Bashar Assad in Syria, and Israel continues to conduct airstrikes in Syria against the interests of America.
So those are just a few examples, but you could find a lot of others.
Israel spies on us, they steal our technology, they sell it to the Chinese.
Israel is doing all kinds of things.
And I would just question, and maybe this is a retort to Robert, maybe he can answer this.
What exactly have we purchased with this foreign aid?
What leverage have we used and what have we got in return for it from Israel?
Because from where I'm sitting, I look at our relationship with them, we tell them to do things, they disobey us, and in the few instances when they accede to our demands, they only do it because we provide them with additional aid.
We have to spend more money to get the.
What does it tell you that this debate hasn't been on InfoWars till today?
So from Trump's perspective, what he was getting was a critical and essential ally against Islamo uh uh fundamentalism and Islamo fascism.
And he believes he's they hate us because of Israel.
Like take the settlement issue.
If Trump was really interested in uh restraining settlements, they would have restrained settlements.
There's the public position, and then there's the behind the scenes.
He can't.
But let's talk about that.
So what he wants more land?
That's uh this is Israel allowing an argument citizens to build land in country that legally they occupy.
The Arab demand is that no Jews be allowed legally land that they ill the Palestinians illegally.
Such a liar.
So why it is we You know damn well the Jews think God gave it to them and they won it all.
Israel's legally occupied lands is something I've never needed to take that position formally because it's the Western position and publicly.
But if anybody thinks he privately pushed it, I think they're poorly mistaken.
The reality is Trump got persistent.
Okay, so he's a so he's does whatever Netanyahu says.
He just pretended to oppose them.
Great.
He's a liar.
He's a fraud.
Between Israel and the royal governments, particularly of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates against Qatar and against Iran and against the Islamo-fundamentalists.
Which is what problem would we have with Iran if it wasn't for Israel?
Uh quite effectively.
Iran knows that Israel runs us.
The foundation to break through the Islamofascist agenda against Israel as its first proxy against the Islamofascism in general.
How many times is he going to say Islamo-fascists?
It was by the aid he provided.
But ultimately, that more becomes a debate about whether U.S. policy has been smart or wise with how it is leveraged foreign aid.
But you could raise the same question about the money we've given to the Islamic countries that are enemies of Israel.
So unless you have a chance to come back and then you were a job, Jones.
Cut them off.
Okay, so I would say the best case example is in the Syrian civil war.
We know that the Syrian civil war is what caused a major refugee crisis into Europe in 2015 because of people fleeing uh the disaster there, one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the world.
And it was the policy of the United States under the Trump administration in 2017.
They stopped pursuing regime change.
Now remember, it was April 2017 because that shortly precipitated that that was I think three or four days before the first uh Judeo Fascists, uh the airfield, I think it was in Homs, Syria, in April 2017, when Xi Xin Peng was visiting Mar-a-Lago.
And so the American government, the Trump administration.
I love how he how this guy Barnes called him neocons, and then he's gonna say Islamo-fascist a hundred times already.
We know that there was no moderate Muslim.
Trump opposed the neocons, but they're all Islamo-fascists.
And they had other proxy groups from Saudi Arabia and other countries.
And so it was the position of America that in order to stabilize Syria, we tacitly were allowing Bashar al-Assad to to reclaim control of the country, which would have been the smart America first policy, because Assad was cooperating with the United States government, Assad tortured terrorists for America.
You know, Assad really was not a bad actor, um, and and we didn't have a bad relationship with Syria, but it was the Israeli policy that Assad had to go and that Syria had to be dismembered so that Israel could secure their northern border with Lebanon.
And so while Trump wanted to shore up the Assad regime, and that was the official policy articulated by the UN ambassador and by the State Department not to depose Assad, Israel continued throughout the Trump administration to launch air strikes against regime forces, against Assad's forces.
This helped ISIS.
Donald Trump came in saying that he wanted to eradicate ISIS.
Assad and the Russian army were the ones fighting ISIS.
And so there's a perfect example where there's a conflict between the American and Israeli interest in Syria in the Middle East.
America wanted stability and the defeat of ISIS.
Israel, I think they benefited from ISIS, and actually some of their top military officials said this.
Their top intelligence chief and their defense minister both said that they would prefer ISIS to Iran.
Yep.
And there was one instance when ISIS attacked Israel, I think in 2013, and ISIS actually apologized to the state of Israel for attacking them mistakenly.
And so I mean that was one of the clearest indications to me where Nick's slaughtering.
This is what our politics should look like.
A particular topic, you just let me know.
Keep going.
Barnes, your response to that.
Sure.
So I mean, Syria has been at war effectively with uh Israel from the day Israel set itself up.
So that's a separate independent conflict that has maintained.
Why?
At war with them for no reason?
Set itself up.
You mean since they conquered the land.
What happened in uh Syria was a reflection of the color revolution started under Barack Obama.
And in as an example, the first big color revolution was in Egypt.
And of course it was really being backed by the Muslim Brotherhood, which Israelis treat ISIS soldiers in their hospitals.
Yes, they give them medical aid and arm them.
But the reality is Israel's the little brother to the United States in this relationship.
Ah.
To push back and be able to do their own thing is very limited, even though they clearly have their own national security.
Such a liar.
They're on America controls Israel.
That's what he says.
As to Syria, Trump's position stabilize uh relations with Assad.
But the deep state's position was not.
Uh indeed, his own ambassador was saying contrary things about regime change.
That was a ref that was a reflection of Trump's uh unfortunate inability to control aspects of deep state policies and priorities that were independent of and separate from Israel or Trump's own policies.
And so I think that there's definitely conflict in areas where you can highlight where Israel has made tactical or strategic errors in various foreign policy, but it's going to be pretty rare.
Practical errors by Israel.
...outside of what the U.S. deep state wants in one way, shape, or form.
Well, what Trump was trying to do is to to to another question, but but Nick, do you want to respond back to the Israel's our little brother?
Yeah.
We're not the vassal state.
I would just say one thing, which is, you know, now we're separating out between the Trump administration and the deep state.
And I would say that there's a lot of infiltration in the deep state from Zionist forces.
Oh, we know that it was the Office of Special Plans that concocted the justification for the war.
Who's the deep state bitch?
The Office of Special Plans.
It was the people that wrote the Clinton.
There is factions of the team in 1996 for BBB.
They run the dialectics always.
So, you know, at some point there's there's not really a distinction between the deep state and the Israeli state, and that that's part of the problem.
We elected Trump to put America first, and what you're saying is, well, the deep state and Israel both conspired to put America last.
You know, the first one.
Well, that's my next question, but Barnes briefly for 30 seconds respond to that.
Sure.
So a couple of things there.
One is that the the if the deep state is pro-Israel, then why were the leaders of the deep state writing books like Imperial Hubris, the CIA chief, whose whole focus was on the CIA attacking Israel?
The deep state really uh loves Israel.
Why do we give five times more aid to its uh to its enemies and its adversaries?
What?
But the deep state loves Israel.
Why does it be?
That's not true.
The CIA attack Israel.
Okay, to quote some.
Israel has gotten more aid from us than anybody.
And we give aid to their allies.
I know Nick knows that.
There are lots of different factions in the submerged bureaucracies of all these big powerful governments and states, and there is a super anti-Israel lobby, a super pro-Israel lobby.
Oh, yeah, there's a huge anti-Israel lobby.
We're basically might as well be Al-Qaeda or or Hezbollah for that matter.
Okay, yeah.
Terrorists.
There's no terrorist Jews, though.
There's no extremist Jews, according to Jones.
But they want to eradicate us.
That's what they fucking verses say.
Cut off the seed of Amalek, destroy Edom.
Uh, and it's better than having these guys will not tell you about it.
And that's the way it is.
So let me ask you this.
Nick, you can say you're just sick of the Israel first who is involved in our government.
I totally agree with that as well.
How give us your view, and then Barnes can respond.
And then if he has any questions for you or vice versa, Nick's Nick's pulling punches.
He needs to he's doing all right, but he needs to go harder.
How do we unwind from Israel?
Or what do you think should happen to Israel?
Uh, because like Barnes said, the Palestinians say we're gonna blow you up and drive you into the sea and kill you.
Well, I mean, sorry, Israel's got nuclear.
As if that's what the Palestinians are saying.
They're saying free Gaza, give us human rights, get rid of the illegal settlements, remove the checkpoints.
Is there not Jewish settlers that say kill all the Arabs?
Like, they're such fucking liars.
Israeli-Palestinian conflict goes.
I actually understand the position of Israel in the sense that, you know, Israel...
The Zionist project, which was to create a Jewish settlement in the Middle East, they were you know fleeing persecution or whatever.
I understand why they're uh, you know, uh oppressing the Palestinians for lack of a better word.
You know, it's a lot of leftists, and and there are some anti-Israel people on the left who make it a humanitarian thing.
You know, I can sympathize with that a little bit, but that's not really my main gripe.
My issue is the one-sided and unconditional support that America gets to the point.
In an ideal world, I would say that we should cut the foreign aid, which and just the Zionist agenda.
They're ignoring the Zionist mindset.
And I would say that we should treat Israel like other states, in particular like our other allies, you know, when Trump got the sanction them.
They need to be sanctioned for everything they've done.
But with Israel, we're gonna recognize their sovereignty over the Golan Heights, and we're gonna call the IRGC a terrorist group, and we're gonna do all everything that Israel wants.
And so I just want some degree of normalcy because what happened what it is right now, and this is a loaded term, but it it describes what's going on, it's sort of parasitism, where they get everything parasites.
And it's not negligible.
The cost is significant to Americans.
The benefit that Israel gets from this.
My question is is what do you do with Israel with 500 nuclear weapons and submarines and cruise missiles and all the rest of the world.
Where'd they get them, Jones?
And you went to college and saw the neocon agenda.
I went to college and heard a bunch of Muslims saying America sucked.
So I mean, there's also that going on, is I think what Barnes There's a bunch of Muslims in Dallas, Texas, saying America sucks.
I highly doubt that for some reason.
Okay.
But but in the big picture, what is your view of Israel's very existence?
Well, I think that Israel is there, and like you said, they're not going anywhere.
They've got uh nuclear arsenal, and they've their policy is the Samson option, which is like they'll bring down everything if if they start to go under.
So I think that Israel is gonna stick around, but I think that they should just be contained because it's a Christian project and check.
Everybody needs to know the truth about what's happening.
They should be sanctioned.
Once people know the truth, that people will be pissed.
Israel's there, they're not going anywhere, and I think the American policy should basically be to work out something so that you know they're they're not creating all these conflicts in other countries.
Yeah, why don't we inspect Israel's nukes and take them from them?
They got nukes, we could never stop them.
They're our little brother, though.
They're a little brother, but they got nukes that they stole from us and now we go bow down to their wall.
Your view on what he said first or second, and give me your view on the ball.
I won't stop talking about they're our greatest ally.
What do you think Israel's role should be?
Yeah, they're a rogue nuclear nation.
I mean, I think the myth that Israel is secretly running U.S. foreign policy is the idea that the U.S. deep state is really being run by Israel when they give five.
Oh, it's the Islamo fascist and the Chaicom.
Israel probably should be a bit of a clue.
But putting that aside, I'll just use that one historical example.
That's all they say is oh, it's a conspiracy theory.
That's their argument.
Uh paper written by American, APEC, Netanyahu, no power over America.
To opt out of the over both sides and to uh support war in Iraq.
Netanyahu rejected it.
Bullshit.
Netanyahu pushed for war in Iraq.
Netanyahu wanted us to go to war in Iraq.
That uh Clinton took the bait on and was suckered into because they have no intention for peace.
They want to wipe Israel out.
Bullshit they they want no Palestine.
How many times is he gonna say push him into the sea?
The reality is Israel is gonna be there.
Israel's not an expansionist agenda.
If anything, they're probably enough.
If they didn't expansionistic enough over Jerusalem, or what Egypt did when they took over Oh, they yeah, he wants them to have Jerusalem in the temple, don't you?
What did they do?
Well, Jordan came into historic Jerusalem, wiped out the Christians, kicked out all Jewish people.
They want to kick out the Christians, you idiot.
They did real ethnic cleansing like they did throughout their entire.
Yeah, they didn't kill any Palestinian villages.
Mayor Dasan.
Hardly any Jews or Christians left anywhere in the Arab world.
They almost don't exist because of Arab policy.
So the what we know is uh what Israel did when they took over the West Bank and the Gaza, which were part of the historic uh mandate they uh legally had entitlement to under international law, they didn't do that.
They didn't kick anybody out.
They even recognize Jordanian title, which was illicit for the people in East Jerusalem.
And so the so that uh because they didn't, they have a hostile population trying to wage war on them on a daily basis since 1988.
So the reality is there's only one side in this binary choice, and it is a binary choice.
It's Israel, Islam of Fascism.
They recently saw a Democratic woman against the Judeo-fascists that have hijacked our country.
Basically for Israel's existence.
I thought that was an asinine statement on its face.
Who said that?
What is the role of Christian Zionists?
It is a big movement, is a staple uh of uh many many churches.
Jones is a Christian Zionist to support Israel's existence, uh I guess because of revelations and biblical talent.
his employees are and that's not all of them and then part two is jerome corsi problems with net yahu calling for implanting children with microchips no No, they're not.
They love Netanyahu.
You think John Hage's calling out Netanyahu?
Get real.
The real reason for Israel's support in the United States is in t has nothing to do with Jewish influence.
Indeed, the most prominent anti-Israeli people uh like Finkelstein and Chomsky are themselves Jewish.
Oh, yeah, there's no pro-Israel Jews in America.
Yeah.
No APAC, no ZOA, no Sheldon Abelson.
This guy's a fucking idiot.
So instead, it's because of evangelical Christians.
And while there's a small portion of evangelical Christians that support it for prophetic religious reasons.
Yeah, right.
90, 95 percent of evangelical Christians.
It's for two reasons.
They've studied it for their own personal reasons and have recognized the reality that in almost every dispute, there's a Palestinian propaganda and then a reality that almost always sides up.
Oh, yeah, Jews never have propaganda.
Also, it's because Israel is the only nation that will protect the holy land.
Yeah.
So the the Christian component.
Yeah, there's there's no uh there's no uh Jews in the media that have propaganda.
It's all the Palestinians.
he says, oh, it's just a reality to be a Zionist.
And their Christians were getting expelled from Jerusalem from 1948 to They spit on if you care at all spit on the Christians in Palestine.
There's only they want to kill you.
They're on video saying they want to kill Christians.
And Elon Omar.
All right, let's uh go ahead and go back to Mr. Fuentes, your take on what he just said, your response.
Okay, so in the first place, I wanted to address one thing really quickly, and hopefully we can't.
Christian Zionist has nothing to do with our support for Israel.
America gives five times as much money to Israel's enemies as to Israel.
And I I just wonder where that figure is coming from.
Maybe we could circle back to that after we're gonna be able to do that.
Well, let's go ahead and cover that now, because you guys really leave the development.
Go ahead and he's challenging you.
Where's that number from?
Sure, it's from uh the U.S. foreign aid official stats.
So just go through the all the uh Islamic countries that we support.
I mean, all of the ones that made deals with Israel?
Watch.
Come on, Nick.
You know, I just saw Nick say this.
Uh so we have long funded the other uh nations, nations that have historic animosity towards Israel, nations.
For no reason.
Uh and you can argue about that foreign aid, but again, I don't think it's actual foreign aid.
Nick's letting him get away with so much stuff over foreign nations.
I would be writing these notes down and hitting them bang bang bang to every dumb shit, dumb thing he says.
But it has to come with the real the realization that giving it up means bye-bye U.S. leverage.
Well, yeah, the reason I ask is because I've looked at stats from the Congressional Research Service, which says that Israel gets sixty percent of total foreign military financing from the United States, and they've been the number one recipient since nineteen seventy-eight.
And if you look at the other countries like Egypt, for example, Jordan, Egypt and Jordan are not Israel's enemies.
Egypt and Jordan have normalized relations with Israel, and they only received lots of foreign aid Egypt in 1978.
There it is.
After they signed a peace treaty with Israel and Jordan in the early 1990s after the owned again.
So you know, one could be almost that the foreign aid that's given to Egypt and Jordan, which are arguably allies at the bare minimum, have normalized relations with Israel, are themselves maybe perhaps an extension of the aid to Israel because the aid is continuous.
Who in their right mind could say Barnes is winning this?
Like I said, in Egypt in 78, they promised not to declare war on Israel, and the same with Jordan in the early 1990s.
And what's more is that you know Israel gets special provisions.
And it's interesting because you say, well, they get this foreign aid, but it's not really foreign aid, it's buying leverage, but the leverage doesn't buy anything.
It just buys like vague support for our war against Islamo fascism.
But they also get special accommodations in the aid, too.
Like I said, they could spend up to a quarter of that on their own domestic defense industry, which no other country gets.
That guy says Jewish power has nothing to do with America with our support for Israel.
Foreign aid is given as a debate when you say something so asinine.
Then we would be able to monitor how the Jews are losing a lot lately.
Israel's taking the L tonight.
We also don't get paid back.
We give it a lot as a lump sum in the beginning of the year.
This is Jones's buddy, too.
This is Jones' lawyer, the guy saying this shit, by the way, that has a show on InfoWars.
Barnes?
That's what I'm questioning, because as far as Israel's enemies are concerned, you've got Iran, you've got Assad, and I don't think we're giving five times the $3.8 billion a year that we give to Israel to Iran and Syria.
Egypt and Jordan are Israel's allies.
This is who Alex Jones surrounds himself with, a show like this.
So are someone else?
Robert, you want to respond to that?
Sure.
So it's two different issues there.
One is in terms of what the foreign aid is for.
If you really think Israel's secretly pulling all the strings and is doing all the foreign eight, well, God bless.
You probably think Israel caused World War I too.
But outside of that context, they got Israel without World War I and two, they would have never got Israel.
It's known that there were Zionists behind those wars.
That's it.
See it it means very little to Israel.
The net effect, it means our our sole leverage is gone in terms of that capacity.
This is true across the board.
And I I listened to all the arguments against foreign aid, and I understand them.
Many of them are right about that.
You'll be right about how we got into World War I and two.
I hear all of the advocates of it not deal with the reality that you forfeit leverage.
And some of it is based on empirical assumptions about whether you're getting leverage or not.
Okay, that's fine.
But you have to at least what it's really there for.
The idea that we're doing foreign aid just to help foreign nations is just not realistic within the history of what foreign aid has been about.
Okay, non-answer.
No response.
Foreign test go ahead.
Okay.
Oh, I was just gonna say that as far as it's three percent of their their uh budget or whatever, our foreign aid to them constitutes twenty percent of their defense budget.
That's a significant portion of it.
Also, five hundred billion of the three point eight, I'm sorry, five hundred million of the three point eight billion dollars we give to them in foreign aid goes to missile defense, specifically developing missile defense systems like the iron dome that they rely upon.
So it's not insignificant for them.
I I will grant you that 3.8 billion dollars per year for Ukraine.
They needed World War I to break up the Ottoman Empire, like and then they needed World War II to push all the Jews there.
It's interesting because their big victim climax aid.
First, we give foreign aid to Israel's enemies more than we give to Israel, and then it's like, oh, well, actually it's not foreign aid, and actually we're buying leverage.
Yeah, high weitzman.
There's there's so many Zionists involved.
Bjorkness's books let talk about all the Zionists foreign aid tomorrow.
What actually was Churchill the Zionists involved with Churchill in the least because Israel doesn't fight in the Iraq war, they don't fight in the Afghanistan war, they haven't helped us in any of our wars.
We're the soldiers.
We're Esau is the soldier that serves Jacob.
That's why it seemed to be starting them in the American government.
So cutting off Israel, they will still continue building settlements in the West Bank as they've done since '67 against American policy.
They still will not be a signatory on the NPT or the biological and chemical weapons convention, which is against American policy.
US has liberty.
Might as well bring up U.S.'s Liberty too.
Which I mean, just last year.
Jonathan Pollard, who is an Israeli spy, Jonathan Pollard again.
This is a massacre.
So I mean, if this is how we're treated when we give them a few years, yeah, this is the best air Israel can bring.
I just I'm hung up by the way.
Let's give Barnes a chance to respond, then I've got some questions now.
You guys have some other questions.
Can't wait for Jones' questions.
Sure.
Uh buying into the mythology that Pollard himself pitched is a sign of people's willingness to buy into various uh propaganda, the anti-Israeli propaganda.
Anti-Israeli propaganda.
Pollard is Israeli anti-Israeli propaganda.
This traitor, including selling them to uh create a South Africa Pakistan arms deal, Pakistan uh being an Islamist country that supports a wide range of Islamic fascism.
And after he got caught, politically every answer is Islamic fascism as just uh helping the Israeli cause and not just being an agent for sale, which is what he really was.
That's why so many uh uh pro-Israeli politicians opposed his early release, and he never got early release.
Not even under Trump.
He had to serve his entire sentence, which was a lengthy sentence for his Zionists are gonna think this is an Alex Jones setup to uh portraying himself Israel's taking the fall tonight with this guy in his own pocket.
These are the kind of uh sort of public deceptions that just don't make sense.
And so, and that's in the broader context of these things.
A lot of the policies attributed to Israel have nothing to do with Israel.
Oh, Israel didn't do anything.
Liberal agendas in the United States that as it may come, usually use Israel as either a fig leaf or a foil.
Oh, Israel's just the scapegoat.
They didn't do nothing.
They were not for the war in Iraq.
Indeed, they made that clear that came out through the Western press.
I can't say that, John.
Expose the enemy.com with his new documentary out.
You guys check it out.
Great researcher.
Really, it was all Israel wanting regime change in Iraq.
Indeed, they repeatedly said don't go to war in Iraq.
Oh my god!
Oh my god went along with the Israelis said don't go to war in Iraq.
Okay, that's what Netanyahu said.
Dude, I got the clip of Netanyahu saying, I promise you, war in Iraq will be good for the region.
He wrote books about it.
You're such a wow, what a scumbag fucking liar, dude.
I've got a lot of questions.
I want you guys to be able to question each other.
Come on, Nick.
You've seen the Netanyahu clips, Nick.
Tell him.
Really frustrated that you got so many other big international and world issues going on.
Oh, why are we talking about Israel?
I'm frustrated.
We shouldn't talk about Israel.
Let's talk about the Tricoms.
...orders and the rest of it.
And every time the Israelis and the Arabs start killing each other, it's been going on for thousands of years...
It's a giant story.
It hasn't been going on for thousands of years.
And I can see how people see this big modern military attacking people with sticks and stones and say Israel's bad.
David and Goliath.
Folks say, oh, well, Israel never had a homeland and they were driven out of the Middle East.
So after Hitler did that...
You know, Russia wanted to give you know the you know the Jews uh Stalin uh, you know, some area uh out in the middle of the uh wilderness, but that didn't happen.
They had to go to fulfill the prophecy.
That's why they had to go steal land.
But but pulling back from this, this is I've sworn before at Warfish.
But yeah, this liar is pissing me off.
The nastiest forms of Islam.
They believe America shouldn't even exist itself, not just Israel.
Dude, that's what the rabbis are saying.
Edom will be destroyed.
Is that they don't speak out more against Islam and how the left is in bed with it and opening our borders.
The left supports Israel.
Schumer, Pelosi, Biden, uh they all support Israel.
Give me a break.
These are their boogeyman.
They use it for the dialectic.
That very same Israel lobby, uh you know, goes against us having those very things here.
And so uh again, I'm not even against Israel's existence.
It's not going anywhere.
Uh the Muslims would just take it over and kill each other over it all day.
Imagine saying you're neutral and just keep saying that over and over again.
The Palestinians I was there.
The Palestinians are not just killing each other all day.
It's you know a little bit bigger than Rhode Island.
Here it is.
Now here is it's such a ridiculous way to to describe the situation.
Uh the uh West, but here's Africa, here's the Middle East, here's Central Asia, here's areas of the Pacific Ocean.
Oh, all they always do this, all the green Islam.
All that's like saying, oh, America, you got lots of countries.
Let's uh let's uh take a little bit of New York just for the for just for us.
Other than places like Syria, which again, uh the deep state and the left particularly was trying to overthrow.
They didn't they didn't come from all those places, by the way.
As Marin said, they didn't want the Arab Spring, but once the dominoes were falling, they they were opportunistic about it.
So so there's different interests.
Show us the Eiret's Israel, Greater Israel map, Jones.
Why don't you show us that?
What is the Bible say is the promised land?
How the US and Israel aren't more aligned against this, and how we don't go we need to be more against the uh Islam.
Bringing a religion that makes women wear hoods over their heads and uh kills you.
A religion that chops off the tips of their dicks and sucks the blood?
So that's what goes on.
You know, it's like cancer.
It keeps replicating, it takes over.
Uh and so I I mean I'll just say it.
Uh Israel does not have my support because Netanyahu did not support Trump when he was in trouble.
Oh, that's all.
That's all that's all that that's all Netanyahu ever did.
He didn't support the Zionist president that's he didn't support his pawn Trump enough.
That's the only thing wrong with Netanyahu.
So I want to see that from Israel.
I don't I don't want to just you know, you'll get occasional lip service here and there.
I want to see Israel aligned with the United States if we're going to be aligned with them because we're in trouble and the West is in trouble, and Israel can't have it both ways.
Robert Barnes, your take on that.
Sure.
So Israel was the country that where Donald Trump was the most popular of any foreign nation, and for a reason.
I wonder why it's because there's been a continued shift in Israeli opinion.
Prior to 2008, definitely prior to 2000, there was a very big Israeli peace movement.
They had bought into the same things that the Carter administration and the Clinton administration and the Obama administration.
Trump gave them everything, and then they smeared him and his followers as anti-Semites.
And oppression and occupation and all of that, and we just unleashed democracy.
Dude, this is such shameful shilling.
Israel recognizes of any Arab nationalist or Arab uh Islamic cutting through the lies of this bald fool.
Israel's not the focus of it.
It's anti wisdom.
Look at his background too.
He's got you know, I've got a degree.
Should I put my degree right behind me with a nice book set up and uh what else does he have there?
Bottle bottle of scotch or something.
And there has been a continued shift.
I mean, Orthodox Jews were back in my chair the president.
The and were Oh, Orthodox Jews love the president.
Yeah, tell us what they believe.
And you started seeing what they believe about you itself, which is always in a delicate position because depending on who wins the U.S. presidency, they can either uh lose power or gain power overnight.
They can either or they have a fighting chance.
So I do have books behind me, but where else am I supposed to put them?
Because that's Rise and kill first.
They hate us for no reason.
Rise and kill first.
Yeah, what do you know about that?
I mean, what's your view on the crusade?
Should we have just stayed there?
Uh because a continuation of that.
But I think the West did put Israel there as kind of a set piece.
We know they bombed the British out of there.
The British didn't want it, but America did.
The West, yeah, they bombed the British out, but the West put them there.
Rant there.
What's your Zionists did, but uh I mean, the Christian Zionists did.
That's an interesting question about the Crusades and everything.
I mean, I would say that it would be preferable for Christians to control the holy land.
Of course, there just weren't any Christians there to occupy the mandate of Palestine.
It was the Jews that settled the mandate of Palestine of the early twenty eighths.
Oh, that's because they wanted to go back there to fulfill their prophecies.
Christians want the Jews to go there.
They don't want to go there.
They want it to be in control of the Jews, so Jesus comes back.
You know, as part of Western civilization, particularly because they're not Christians.
And I think it's important to note, um, you know, Robert keeps saying things like Islamo fascism and and things like that.
Uh but it's worth noting that in the religion of Islam, Jesus Christ is seen as a prophet.
He's not seen as a son of God or God himself, but he's the Talmud say it and say it next respect it.
Now, obviously, Muslims want to conquer the world and they want to subordinate Christians to Muslim rule and everything like that, but they want to convert.
There isn't really a Muslim fanatical hatred for Christ and Christianity itself.
That same cannot be said about rabbinical Judaism.
Where if you look at Orthodox Judaism in the Talmud, that's the book that they read.
Not so much the Torah but the Talmud.
It's both commentary on the Torah.
And the Zohar.
About Jesus Christ.
It says that he's he's in hell.
It says that that his mother.
I mean, I can't even repeat these things.
It's blasphemy.
Blasphemy to repeat it.
Because, you know, there is this this I think throughout the debate, there's this assumption that's class civilizations between Islam and the West.
And that was a big book that red pilled me, Clash of Civilizations by Sam Huntington.
That's what sort of got me thinking about the refugee crisis and Muslims.
Oh, yeah.
Who's clashing the civil who's clashing Ishmael and Esau against each other?
I wonder who.
We think it is.
I think that it's sort of uh a different civilization.
And you could see that it looks out for itself.
It doesn't share too much in common with us.
We don't share the same religion.
Um, and even their existence.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Defend Talmud apologists.
Muslims and Islam and the left do not want America to exist, and they really hate Christians.
I know a lot of Jews, and I've actually studied what goes on.
I mean, there's a lot of Jews that are basically converting over to Christianity or a full out.
Jones knows Jews that are turned into Christian.
Old beefs and fights between Catholics hundreds of years ago and Jews.
And we know that some of that's ongoing with some sex.
Uh but uh some fringe anti-Zionist uh remnant of the old Christianity.
Because we don't have to guess, because we have 75 years of lived experience to test.
Who would protect freedom of religion?
Who would protect freedom of speech?
Who would protect freedom of thought?
They want to convert you to Noahides to Noahide slaves.
Who would completely protect Jerusalem for complete Christian access and they want to build the temple and you're not allowed on the temple, fool.
Only one.
Israel did all of that.
Jordan didn't do any.
There is j there is Christian sites under Jordan and on Palestinian land in two thousand under the control of Jordan right now.
I went to them.
So the the long history, aside from the history, which I would say the history shows that uh Islamo fascism was always going to be a greater threat to uh Christians than anyone than Israel ever could be.
Well, yeah, they that's why they created it.
There's only one nation that protects freedom of religion.
Israel uh there's only Islam is the broom.
Show them the clip.
There's only one nation that has 20 percent of civilizations, yes.
Uh in as opposed to a 20% Jewish or Christian minority.
Again, it's all Israel.
Israel is the only nation to prove it is willing to protect Western values, express Western values.
They don't have Western values.
They follow the Talmud.
They're Jewish supremacists.
They think we're Noahide goi slaves.
I want to go ahead and finish up, Barnes.
all of them, obviously, but this is what their religion teaches.
This is really the only nation that looks anything like or celebrates American values in the Middle East.
Dude, they They they think America is dumb and they use us.
They want it destroyed.
I would just say that, you know, I look at sort of the Jewish values of people and the elites in America, and I don't think they're actually in favor of free speech.
I don't think they're great.
They're the ones censoring us all.
Take a look at groups like the ADL, the SPLC.
If we, you know, let's just take a hypothetical here.
If we had sort of an Israeli rule over America or something, or some of these groups were in control of America.
Excuse me, control of America.
We know that it's the official State Department definition of anti-Semitism to say, for example, that that Jews may have a dual loyalty to Israel.
Loyalty say that racists in the Holocaust, there were fewer people that died there than is reported.
So you're mad at Israel because the Israel lobby is censoring American free speech.
And I guess what Barnes said about Israel.
Yeah, why haven't you talked about it, Jones?
In their history in the last year.
Antisemitism definition.
Yeah, he did cut them off.
Notice how Jones jumped in there.
Well, I what I'm saying is that I think that the Jews' support for these sort of so-called Western ideals is contingent.
And this is this is what you hear when they say, you know, for example, I watched a debate with Brett Stevens, Jewish Zionist columnist for the New York Times.
He had a debate with a rabbi a few years ago about whether or not Donald Trump was a very good idea.
Jones only interrupts.
And in the debate, Brett Stevens said that he thought Donald Trump was bad and specifically bad for the people.
Jones has never talked about Trump's executive order about anti-Semitism.
He's never talked about the anti-Semitism definition that they're trying to push worldwide that Trump signed.
Specifically protecting Christian sites in the Holy Land is basically contingent on self-interest.
And I think that if Israel was not dependent on Christian Zionist support and support from America, I think they would bulldoze those Christian settlements.
And largely Christian settlements did come under attack in 1940.
It wasn't just Palestinian.
They burned down.
They burned down the Christian Zionist Radio Station Israel.
They spit on preachers.
say on the streets that we that we are they're supposed to kill christians highly contingent i don't think they're truly western and i think there's a lot of resentment and animosity you know ben shapiro who's a zionist will say things like you know i don't give a good damn about the And I think that that's simply their disposition, which is they don't give a damn about us or ideals or you know, our religion or anything like that.
I think that, you know, we as Christians may look at the two thousand years, you know, not not the seventy years of lived experience, but two thousand years of lived experience, and Christians can shrug it off and say, Oh, that's medieval times, that's ancient history.
I think that's still very present in the Jewish mind.
I think there's no great conscience.
Aren't you saying then that there's two different camps and that you look at whether you support Israel or not on how you judge Jews?
Because, I mean, clearly there are dozens of different types of groups in Israel fighting with each other, just like America has all these different groups.
No, no, they all agree on being Zionists, though.
Love America, love the sex.
They agree on far they're still chosen and and we're unchosen.
There aren't leftist organizations, uh Islamic groups, Jewish based.
I know, Nick, I would be ripping this guy a new one if I heard him say these things.
Nick's way more calm.
Who criticizes Israel?
So I agree with you.
We should have a right to do that.
Jones said I read Nazi books when I called in and called out uh his showing.
Against Israel and He's guilty of that.
I just think that it's an oversimplification.
And here I am debating you, and I said I wouldn't do that.
Yeah, you are interjecting your take on what I just said.
Well, I I think it's I think to simplify it, it would be this.
You know, the basis of politics, according to Carl Schmidt, is this sort of distinction of us versus them.
I think that politics is based on self interest.
And I would say that Israel and Jewish people pursue a self interest that is separate to the self interest pursued by Europeans, Christians, and and Americans.
And I think it's really as simple as that.
And the problem has been that when there's a conflict between these self interests between two distinct groups, we are deferring to Israel.
And a lot of people in America don't see the distinction itself.
It's there, and Israel sees it, and I think Jewish groups in America see it, but Christian Zionists and and other American conservatives don't see it.
They see Israel, like I said, as a a frontier of Western civilization or Christianity, and I don't think it's that simple.
So it's not to generalize about all Jewish people living in the world or all Jewish people in Israel or anything like that.
It's merely to say that I don't know that we look at a country like Israel, and I think it would be naive to sort of project onto them that they have our best interests in mind as Christians.
Sure, well, I'll just say this in response because people are going to ask my opinion, so I'm getting out there.
I have been pro Israel's existence because uh I'm pro dude, you're full-on shill, dude.
Launch wars.
But I understand it's a football, and I understand you have a right to criticize it and not want your taxpayer money going there.
And and and anybody that says you don't know that right is un American and is dangerous.
But a lot of Christians I know that have been really pro-Israel, they've really gotten upset by Netanyahu coming out and sounding like Klaus Schwab saying everyone needs microchips to prove they've been vaccinated, freedom bracelets, and I've really seen a big turn in Netanyahu uh from when he was supporting Trump to when he got indicted, and I and I and I've seen Netanyahu more and more just separating Israel out, uh, going in a very scary direction.
Robert Barnes, uh, what is your view on on because you're a big critic of the COVID tyranny, one of the most eloquent people out there.
Uh we we all follow your work.
Uh I know Nick and I do, and many others do.
But how do you square that with Israel being this paragon of liberty and being one of the worst COVID uh police states out there?
Well, I mean, b on the COVID issue, that's a global issue.
I mean, unfortunately, there's been very few nations that have pushed back on that, and I think that's because of uh Bill Gates' success at co-opting a lot of public health authorities around the world, and that mantra just kept on marching.
And on domestic politics, there's a lot of dis uh debates and disputes to have about Netanyahu or other internal Israeli politics and policies on the I don't hear any of your criticisms of them topics.
I see that.
debates, but I'll never criticize any of it.
...whether not defending Israel and aligning with Israel makes more sense than defending and aligning with the Islamofascists.
Oh, there we go.
Islamo fascists.
The idea that we can live outside of that, that we're not gonna be a very good thing.
False dichotomy if we pretend to be neutral, we are making a choice.
The reality is the West has a long history of trying to appease the Islamo fascists.
Um they did it in nineteen thirty nine when they barred Jewish immigration for the most part to Palestine while it was run by the League of Nations in Britain.
Oh, how did that turn out?
Oh, they wouldn't let them take over and now they've taken over, and now you're not allowed back in.
This guy is retarded agreement by going to Nazi Germany and propagandizing Nazi Germany throughout the Arab world, creating a Moslem SS unit, uh helping to bring Nazis to the Palestine to turn the Jewish wells.
And that's what happened.
Poison Jewish wells.
Okay.
Hold on.
When the State Department was working with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, that's uh that's an anti-Semitic trope.
Why then are so many liberals, leftists, and leftists?
He's retarded.
How long can he sit like that?
I know.
Well, I mean, I think there's been an election.
Part of this is Soviet legacy of the left.
So the Soviet Union took an anti-Israeli position, started spreading a wide range of anti-Israeli conspiracy theories.
Conspiracy theories.
Uh, you know, dude, this guy's a joke.
Somehow they started World War I to everything else.
Oh, somehow.
Somehow, that's just impossible.
They haven't benefited since World War I and World War II at all.
Yeah, he's not in a hot tub.
Like he's in a hot tub.
Fighting back against the uh Western colonizer.
And so, I mean, that's why the Russian communist uh originally called uh Zionism a capitalist conspiracy.
So there's a long history of the left being opposed to Israel, precisely.
Oh, if you're against the Zionist, you're a leftist.
That's the other false dichotomy.
And they've done it for seventy-five years.
They do not represent Western values.
Your response to that.
The Jewish supremacist values.
There's some truth to that.
There is a sort of nominal left.
I know you he's on InfoWars saying conspiracy theory every five seconds.
Do you know where you're at?
Donald Trump and Democratic politicians attend APAC all the same that Republican politicians.
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Kamala.
Exactly.
Kamala Harris, come on.
And uh what's more is there's the sort of people make this distinction between, well, there's this left-wing sort of American Jewry, which is secular, anti-Israel, and then there's this Israel, which is more right wing and traditional.
But you find that there are rare instances when it comes to light that there's some overlap.
You know, for example, in the case of Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah, Epstein is connected, of course, to Bill Clinton, members of the British Royal Family, five-cets.
I mean, where does he have a million dollars from Trump celebrities?
And yet Jeffrey Epstein was married to or dated Jolene Maxwell, whose father was a Mossad agent, right?
And you also have the case of Harvey Weinstein, who used former Mossad agents.
Yeah, like the left isn't in with Israel, too.
It's it's such an easy argument of refute.
It's also liberal media and the liberal establishment, which voice support for the Iraq war in 2003.
I mean, it was people like Christopher Hitchens and Noam Chomsky is another virulent leftist.
Well, I guess he's more of a critic of Israel, but uh, but people like Christopher Hitchens pro uh war in Iraq and and certainly a lot of other people as well.
So, you know, there are people who are like, and I agree there's to an extent hardcore leftists who see Israel as an oppressor, like a legacy of colonialism.
I think there's some shit.
Yeah, they try to scapegoat white American colonialism in white supremacy.
Exactly.
That's part of the psyop as well.
Now, now is that just to raise money or or or is that to divert place from other issues?
Well, they couldn't have legitimate concerns.
They're anti-Israel to raise money.
I don't necessarily know why Soros would be pouring money into these pro-Palestinian leftists, but certainly we don't see any institutional change.
And I think that's sort of the real thing to keep in mind.
I see that as sort of like a negative externality, perhaps of leftism, because you don't have to deny that there's a massive uh UN organized invasion of the world with Islam, or or what's your view on that, and how does Israel tie into that?
Because again, I just I see Israel almost as a distraction because there are all these other globalists forces.
Don't pay attention, they're a distraction.
That's what he always says.
Such a shill.
What we can say online is censoring doctors and universities, he should uh Nick should have mentioned Dershowitz.
I don't dislike the Palestinians, I just know that's the right.
He's the biggest right-wing guy and Epstein and he and Trump supporter.
Uh it's just that I've never been to Israel because I I don't think it's probably a very safe place to go.
I mean, I I may go so there sometime just to do a report on it, but I try to study it.
I mean, just to me, he tries to study it, yeah.
Seems like it.
Why is it so damn important?
Because they're the chosen people.
It's the holy land, the Zionist agenda.
It actually ties in in a very specific way.
Israel was in favor of regime change, for example, in both Syria and Libya.
Syria and Libya.
I can't believe Jones is moderating a Zionist power debate right now.
Never thought I'd see the day.
I think it was 2011 in the Obama administration, which cleared the way for sub-Saharan Africans to come through across the Mediterranean into Europe.
That cleared the way and sort of opened the floodgates for these people to pour across I gotta pee again.
I'll be right back.
Let me know in the comments if I miss anything good.
And ultimately, Israel doesn't want the refugees.
Israel's been pushing Palestinians and lots of other people from Israel, and it's Muslim countries and then ultimately European countries that take them.
So I think that that Israel kind of wrecks havoc in the Middle East, and then it's the rest of the world that sort of has to deal with the fallout.
That's kind of my take on how that ties in in that particular way.
So you're are you saying that the Jewish state is what has caused basically the last seventy years of conflict in the Middle East?
Yes, yes.
I think and and don't get me wrong, it takes two to tango, and it, you know, that's not to say that there aren't Arabs and Arab nations that have been antagonistic towards Israel.
Certainly the Muslim countries in the Middle East have not been welcoming to Israel to say the least.
Um but Israel in many cases has been the provocatore, the initiator, the instigator.
Um and I would also say to sort of uh reply to the last part is I you say you're allergic to the Palestinians.
I don't really care for the Palestinians.
I'm not really sympathetic to them.
They're like BLM leftist types, they don't care about me.
But I do feel a little bit of kinship with them in the sense that you know, I have been on the receiving end of a lot of oppression, so to speak, because of my outspoken criticism of Israel.
I've had the Zionist organization of America call for me to be censored from the internet because I'm skeptical and critical of Israel.
Got back just in time for ZOA.
Dylan and others from Daily Wire.
Try to call people I know and try to get them to disavow me and disassociate from me.
I mean, I've had to be a good thing.
He's so well spoken and knows about this stuff, and that's why he's blacklisted and attacked everywhere.
Yeah.
You know, you'll be censored.
I've already been censored, and I think you have a right to be heard.
I think you have legitimate getting his way on this platform and uh getting all these issues that have been brought up today and this getting this Zionist fool embarrassed.
This is all good.
In this country, uh Nick used to say trust the plan.
Maybe is this his plan?
So, yeah, two points.
One briefly on the history of Israeli Arab conflict.
In the nineteen twenties, uh, the Arab world they were Palestinians were offered a two-state solution, they refused.
In the nineteen thirties, they were offered a two-state solution, they refused.
Give us half your land or more than half your land.
And you refuse, and you're evil.
Were any of these good deals for the Palestinians?
They refused.
In 2008, they were offered a two-state solution, they refused.
Almost every war that's a very difficult time.
Conservatives to be racist and anti-Semitic.
What a headline.
...invading them, such as 1948, such as 1956, such as 1967, such as 1973...
All of these were screw jobs.
The Jews would never have taken these deals if they were on the other side of the negotiating negotiating table.
And even though they've been the underdog, they've won repeatedly.
Now to the second question.
Barnes is so dumb he doesn't realize that Nick is dominating him right now.
He does.
He probably thinks he's winning.
Tell me this guy doesn't think that he's winning the debate right now.
Oh, I hope there's a poll too.
Israel during his tenure.
That was because there's been a long poll will speak volumes.
Because they think they're conveniently aligned for the purposes of leveraging power against their adversary.
Indeed, the use of refugees for that purpose was started with the Palestinians when nobody else would take them and force them into permanent refugee status because the rest of the world is a very good thing.
Oh, yeah, the communists and Islam, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, you know those those Islamics that created communism and push communism everywhere.
Wipe out Israel.
Well kind of the starting point to wipe out the West.
This goes back to the Muslim Brotherhood.
This is Zionist propaganda.
First they get Israel and then they take over America.
This is the old neocon talking point.
Kennedy and Carter and LBJ.
But he was trying to tell them he wasn't really anti-American.
He just had issues with Israel.
He would be a strong anti-communist.
Well, how did that work out when he took over in nineteen seventy-nine?
Again, we've got to be a little bit more.
It's so many lies.
Nick needs like double the time to respond to all the lies.
He fits them all into such a quick stop guys.
I don't even see Nick does have a pen.
We come back to the point of its different perspectives, but basically on the same thing.
We're going to take a short break.
We're not on the same thing.
I am going to come back and just have you both ask each uh each other a series of questions.
I've peed like two or three times, I feel like during this debate.
I didn't on from there.
Nick has talked the least.
Tell us who you think won the debate and briefly.
Oh, the phones on this.
Where's Harrison?
And Robert Barnes, we come back from the case.
I wanted to see what Harrison had to say.
Did he get kicked out of this?
And the podcast and shows Harrison is uh he has a show on InfoWars.
I debated him on the kill stream.
And of course, Dick Foint.
See where he is.
Talk show host and one of the main leaders in the America first.
Uh type movements.
We'll be right back on this live, uncensored teleprompter-free debate.
I did pretty good the first 45 minutes.
I started interjecting a little bit when we come back and be a good boy and not interject.
I think I did bring up some interesting thought and points.
We'll be right back.
You weren't interested in it.
I thought I brought up an interesting point.
No.
Empowered and funded by Communist China.
The big mega banks of the setup.
It's so despicable.
Oh, they're the host of second hour.
Okay.
It's so despicable that they haven't had this debate yet.
Chinese are taking control of Hollywood.
It's all confirmed.
Silicon Valley is almost completely run by the communist Chinese government.
Silicone Valley run by the Chicoms.
Google is now making the transition.
And if you mention the Jews, oh, that's a conspiracy theory.
Tinfoil hat.
A demonized version of Alex Jones to do that.
This is not like the other probes before that were meant to get you used to probes and censorship, thinking you would adapt to censorship by just putting up with it now.
Oh, I feel brainwashed already listening to this.
This is a tie-traded dose.
Okay.
Adapt overcome.
What are we an hour and 45 minutes in?
In layman's terms, in the fact that we adapt to being a press.
We adapt to being pressed with the load that's.
Please cut the ad.
Okay.
I know.
I can't handle it either.
It's too much.
Gonna give me a seizure or something.
Okay.
We got a little bit of news I could show.
Let me move this over here so I can watch it.
What can I go through?
Let's see if we have any super chats actually.
Okay.
Oh, I just restarted it, so they're not coming up.
Okay, leave that up.
So far, I'm I mean, Nick is dominating, but he's not he's not hitting a home run.
He's doing well.
And and I know he's like he's scared of being called anti-Semitic, so he's trying to very have have his like political face on.
He's definitely winning, but he he's leaving some softballs up there that he could easily knock out of the park.
What beer do you drink, Adam?
I like hazy IPAs.
He's E IPAs.
California thing.
This guy, Barnes is so pathetic.
He's the worst.
I wish he would he was uh debating me.
I would be I would be like interrogating more and challenging more.
This is it's kind of like they're speaking past each other a little bit.
He's letting them get away with way too much nonsense.
But again, Nick is what would you guys give him?
Well what's what's the uh grade that you would give Nick show me in the chat, like A to F for how he's doing so far.
Let's watch some more of Jones's compilation of uh him being neutral on Israel and Palestine.
Oh, they'll just kill and overthrow immediately.
What he always says.
And then now they're calling for an inafada, they're calling for an uprising in the Middle East.
He's been saying it for years.
Oh, I'm neutral, but oh, the Muslims would just kill each other in Palestine.
Like they're just killing the like the Muslims are just killing each other non-stop.
That's the way he describes the whole situation.
A war against Israel.
Gee, who would have thought that would have happened?
What would happen if the Jews pulled out?
Hold on.
A, A, B, C. He's doing pretty well.
Yeah, no D's or F's, that's for sure.
B uh Yeah, like I said, he's doing it, he's doing a good job.
He's doing he's doing uh representing our side very well, I should say.
Definitely he could I if I had to give him I'd say a minus B plus is where I'm at right now.
Fan F, okay.
And left.
Within a year, there'd be nothing.
Nick needs to be more assertive and more uh more alpha, exactly.
Go a little bit more hardcore.
Like this is something you should get.
He's all kind of just like, oh, you know, this and that.
Like, you know, I can't hold back my emotion sometimes.
Maybe maybe it's not as effective of a way of uh persuading people or communicating, but I would just be I would be letting this guy have it with some of the stuff he said.
High optics mode and fighting because that's what the Middle East does.
You don't build stuff, you don't develop things, you don't have a culture.
That's yeah, no culture in the Middle East, never never any Islamic culture, nowhere all over the world.
They have no culture.
And uh they just blow stuff up.
That's all they know how to do.
That's this is neutral to Jones.
This it this is uh Ben Shapiro style takes.
It's based on renaissance, it's all based on conquest.
Uh we're back, sorry, we're back.
That's my view on the world.
What is your view in a big city?
Miss Jones is pulling back 35,000 feet on the view of the world.
Robert Barnes, and we'll go back to Nick Fuentes.
Fuentes.
Sure.
Why can he not say Fuentes?
As just a micro example to illustrate why we shouldn't take the Palestinian propaganda at face value, not only because of who's backing it, the George Soros is of the world, the Rashid Talibs of the world.
Oh my god.
See how he makes it like it's just a them?
I supported Palestine before I ever knew who that woman was.
Uh near the mosque in Jerusalem, and then you know, bombing trying to bomb Israel, usually bombing their own people more often, was a tenet.
Oh, they're bombing their own people.
That's John Hagee level lies.
Uh, or by Jewish people going back to the Ottoman Empire of the 1850s.
Dude, this guy works at InfoWars.
This is Jones' buddy saying this kind of bullshit.
In the 1980s, and then a bunch of squatters took over and refused to pay rent.
So of course they have a right to evict them.
Squatters.
Yeah.
That is, oh, Israel's coming.
Who are the squatters?
But I think in that broader context, we should look at the framework of we should not trust whichever side.
Don't trust the Palestinian propaganda.
Trust the Zionist propaganda.
People like Elon Omar, people like AOC are up.
We support we were anti-Zionist before all of those women were born.
And be skeptical that that agenda can be anything like America first.
Nick.
Respond.
Watching the left completely come out against Israel.
Dude, they're not a Pelosi, come on, man.
Um I hate their guts, so that makes me push back to support Israel more.
Oh, Israel became more authoritarian.
That makes me pull back from Israel.
I mean, uh, this is a nightmare scenario.
I mean, you get from like a pragmatist view of of how I'm torn by this.
Absolutely.
I do.
I do understand it.
Um, and and I understand the uh argument that you're making, the idea that it's these evil actors like Barack Obama, George Soros, and others who are anti-Israel, BLM among others.
But I guess my sort of three thousand foot view of the situation is that we don't have to pick between Israel or Palestine or or Muslims or Jew, Jewish Zionists.
I'm America first.
And so my worldview is that America's interest should be put first before Israel or Palestine, and that means that I could sort of separate myself out and I could see to say anybody that's anti-Zionist is with Ilhan Omar is just such a false dichotomy.
scientist perspective.
But ultimately, at the end of the day, my axiom is that America must be put first.
And I'll just a fallacy.
We look at Israel, and there are some similarities.
You know, I I think there was um there was an article written by Ben Shapiro years ago, which was hilarious.
He said something to the effect of, you know, we have to basically get rid of all the Muslim Palestinians in Israel.
He said, Because how can you expect two opposing populations that hate each other and violent with each other to live together?
And you know, I look at America with everything that's going on here, with all the problems that we have in our cities and BLM and our elite screwing us, and I think, you know, why are America first politicians, who I see some notable ones, and others saying I stand with Israel and saying I think it's time to defend Israel?
How about standing with America?
How about standing for Americans?
And as far as we're concerned in the Middle East, let's stand with America's interest as a such a milk toast if it behooves America to see.
Maybe it works on these boomers.
We could derive a direct benefit.
And if we don't stand with Israel and derive a direct benefit, I think we should put that on the table, too.
But it just sickens me because I I grew up and I don't have institutional backing.
I don't have connections.
I'm a guy my parents were college dropouts, or I'm sorry, I didn't even go to college.
They're high school graduates, you know.
I'm not a political blue blood or anything.
I came up as sort of a naive Trump supporter in 2016, believing in the cause of America, believing in America, and thinking I want to stand with America.
Naive.
...to put America first.
And as far as...
He's admitting that he was naive to support Trump.
...rigid, hardline stance of us before everybody and us alone and us forever...
And Nick, some radio stations are carrying this, so I'll tell folks Nick Fuentes of America first hosts his own weeknight uh show is here with us debating Robert Barnes.
I I think regardless of what people think of your views, the fact that you become so successful and so prominent and so well known and now so censored and blacklisted shows that what you're saying has a giant audience and resonates with Americans.
And so I think Jones recognizes that.
That's why he's trying to get him under his wing.
The Israel first should look at and and ask why Americans who supported like you did Israel, as you said up a big basically Christian Zionist, feel so alienated.
Uh Barnes, that's a pretty important point he made just in general about how Americans feel.
Can you respond to that?
Sure, but I think that's core of the problem.
It's the problem infecting a wide range of ideologies and ideas towards Israel and Israeli politics.
Whether it's the neoliberals, the neo-cons, the more isolationist types, the uh the hard left, it they all have a certain naivete about what will happen.
So let's look at this from a real politique perspective.
I've got it written down later.
What happens if Israel disappeared?
They gave up their what kind of question is that's real politics.
Do you hear me asking the question?
Let's talk about if Israel disappeared.
History proves that's always been the Palestinian Arab objective.
All of this is political theater.
And what's the Zionist objective?
To build settlements and never have a Palestine.
Now they want to force Israel into a one-state solution, bring in all the Palestinian population, give them the full right to vote, then they can they'll they'll almost immediately be a majority.
If people haven't been paying attention, Islamo fundamentalist cultures around the world have been on a huge population spree because they recognize the value of population to future power, and they uh always recognize the tool of immigration and refugees to power, with it starting with the Palestinians particularly.
Their objective is to wipe them out, is to eliminate them.
So if they and that's that's what they think will happen.
That's what they're trying to force Israel to do.
And we should all ask ourselves that's what Israel did to them and wants to do to them.
And I agree with Trump.
Trump said that would pose a major threat to America, and I think Trump was right.
Well, let me let me just interject this.
What do you make of the ADL a few years ago having a big article on their site written up by Abe Foxman saying we don't want replacement migration in Israel because the Muslims are having six kids apiece, we're only having one and a half.
If we do that, they'll replace us, but then the very ADL that said that calls for me to be taken off the air because I show a UN document saying they want replacement migration in Europe and the U.S. of white people and Christians.
So I mean that's a damn true thing by the UN and by the left.
I mean, they're actually racist.
I mean, everybody sees it.
And so I just don't know why why the Israeli lobby would like not want that for Israel, but want that here.
Like what do they think because they hate us and want to destroy us?
Well, I think in terms of yeah, if you want to destroy Edom, Israel and the U.S. There hasn't been for a long time.
The uh and that's I mean, Netanyahu made that mistake when he thought uh he could help defeat Obama in 2012.
There, and so that's where I think the the belief and the assumption that there's any uniform opinion is just mistaken.
The the harshest uh critics are people like Finkelstein and Chomsky.
So the uh and that goes all the way back again to the left.
So the uh so that's why.
So if you're you you don't like uh Israel and the Zionists you're on the left complexity and the conflicts within Israel, yeah, Henrik's back aspects of America.
Shout out to Henry Ultimately the same comes back.
If Israel uh doesn't exist, is that a better place for America?
And I can't see a scenario where that's true.
That's not we're not having a debate if Israel exists.
That's not what we're talking about.
What is your take, uh Nick Fuentes on the ADL supporting uh uh replacement migration here in Pascal?
Israel existing uh literally it's just unbelievably dangerous.
I mean, I'm I oppose authoritarians.
I don't care if it's Hitler or Stalin or the ADL, that's basically the same group in my view now.
What do you make of an outrageous uh you know we don't want replacement?
We don't want any Muslims here, uh, but boy, if you even criticize the official UN plan of six hundred plus million for the US by 2050 brought in, uh I mean, my God, uh you you you you're a Nazi then.
Oh well, I think that it uh every time Jones talks, he has to say Hitler or Nazi.
Israeli support for so-called Western values is basically contingent on self-interest.
And the difference between the ADL and their position towards America and the ADL and their position towards Israel, is that in Israel, Jews are in the majority, and ADL is a mouthpiece for the majority.
In America, ADL is a mouthpiece of a very tiny, tiny minority of two percent of the population.
And it goes back even to what I said about Brett Stevens.
He said that Donald Trump is not good for the Jews because, and this is his words, in a debate with a rabbi.
And he used to write for Jerusalem Post.
He used to be considered a conservative.
He was a Wall Street Journal.
He said that he thinks Donald Trump is no good because he has been harmful to the liberal international, liberal international principles that have been so good to us as Jews in America that provided for Jewish immigration into the United States, that provided for uh, you know, there used to be a time in the universities when there was a quota for how many Jewish people could be admitted.
That eradicated that.
You know, the the civil rights agenda produced a great benefit for all minority groups, including Jewish people.
So ADL adopts a very liberal posture in America and a very conservative posture in Israel, the Jewish nation, and it's just as simple as nationalism for me, but not for thee.
And I will say with Israel, um, you see, there's a lot of conservatives that say they're America first and they're against immigration and things like that, but they're still Zionists.
They still stay they stand with Israel.
I don't think that if you're looking at certain elements of the Israel lobby that they're necessarily opposed to shutting down America's borders or certain conservative um, you know, policy items in America, but you know, these politicians are expected to tow the line on Israel.
You know, you could be permitted to go out and say America first and do your rally.
You could be permitted to build the wall and do the those kinds of things, but there's an expectation that when APAC makes the call, when Israel lobby makes the call, you answer and you put out a tweet, for example, over the past couple of weeks, as one instance, and say, I stand with Israel, I condemn, you know, whatever.
And so I think that's why you get a little bit of that uh that that sort of two-faceness from the ADL and certain groups, and in certain elements, like I said, of the Israel lobby, you know, they support Bolsonaro and Brazil and Salvini and Italy and Orban and Hungary, and they supported Trump in America, but they support its contingent, they support conservative elements insofar as they facilitate Israeli Zionist ends and do not thwart them.
Okay, yeah.
Yep, well put.
I want to have each of you be able to, you know, really attack each other.
That's nice.
I'm glad we're all being congenial here.
Uh but come on, blood sports, Alex.
You want to see blood sports?
If you think the other's being disingenuous, motives.
Call them an anti-Semite, call them a shill.
Uh I mean, any any questions or ask him if he asked Barnes if he believes they're chosen by God.
I want to know that.
Uh, but uh who'd like to go first?
Uh uh I know Nick's holding back his true power, I know.
I could go first.
All right, Nick, go ahead.
So I would ask to get back to the early part of the debate, I never addressed this.
You said that the Donald Trump policy is not understood by conservative or liberals, conservatives or liberals.
Donald Trump was, and I saw one of your videos earlier this week.
You said that Donald Trump was parlaying uh the Gulf Arab royal families against the Islamo fascists in the broader Middle East.
Um but I would say, you know, what do you think is a proper definition of Islamic fascism if, you know, for example, like uh Iran meets that definition, but Saudi Arabia doesn't, because you know, Iran's an enemy of Israel, and you could say they have fascistic theocratic components, but how would they differ from Saudi Arabia, who is supported by Trump and normalized relations with Israel?
Jared Kushner.
Yeah, good question.
Well, there's a history of potential antagonism between the royal-led government and Iran.
That started because, of course, the Ayatollah himself said he wanted to topple them, that they had no right to rule.
Now, I think the Saudis made a major mistake, and some U.S. deep state operators made a major mistake when their method of countering uh Iranian uh uh Islamo fascism was to create their own breeding grounds for Sunni Wahhabi style uh Islamo fascism uh to help propagate it.
Pakistan ultimate.
Somebody needs to edit all the times he said Islamo fascism and then put it in a compilation on Twitter.
Islamo fascist supported various Sunni groups in Iraq uh and the same to some degree in Syria.
And their theory was they could at least prevent uh Iran's Shi'ist style Islamo fascism from dominating by creating a division within the religion itself due to Shia uh my minority status within the Arab world.
But in my but I think they came around largely it appears to be due to Trump, but beginning in 2017, the Islamo fascist drinking game was a bad idea.
Started to isolate Qatar who was supporting the Muslim brothers, yeah, put the auto tune on Islamic fascism in support of various uh Islamo fascist causes on the Sunni Wahhabi side and began negotiations to do the I say Zio a lot in Zionism signaling a shift in direction.
There is a history of the royal governments in the Mid East uh uh going along with secular Western values that actually goes all the way back to the Ottoman Turks.
The origin of Islamo fascism was a political rebellion against the Ottoman Turkish Empire in the early 19th century, uh trying to incorporate Western values.
Uh is he talking about culture.
And then that just continued and went aflame after the fall of the Ottoman Empire with the Muslim Brothers.
Ottoman isn't it Ottoman?
It was a momentary mistake by deep state.
I've never heard anybody say Ottoman create conflict.
Is that the is that the correct pronunciation?
I'd like to promote my new book, Islamo fascism.
The core theology or the coming to America, Islamo fascism, politicization of the state.
And the best thing to do is to die in the name of it.
Is the core dangerous idea that poses real risks to the West?
And I think uh but and so there's a many suicide bombers has there been since 9/11.
Well, that's where I thought Trump was right to get the Saudis to get the uh UAE to get them aligned against Islamo fascism, yeah.
The Roth the Western election.
Ottomans wouldn't sell Jerusalem to the Rothschilds, so they had to have World War I break them up.
They've had for 100 years before the UN got set up the plan that that particular Yeah, it's It's arm manspreading but with the arms.
He's like overcompensating too much.
How you pronounce the name clergy plan?
Kalurgi plan.
Jones just mentioned Kalurgi plan.
Again, I go back to the I never thought I'd see the day that I heard Jones say Kalurgi plan.
Barnes is right.
Play Spectre, and I'll really lose my mind.
You have the Shiites and the Sunnis uh killing each other, the Shiites being 20% of Islam, the other group being 79%, and then Jones just referenced Kalurgi plan like he's never heard of it.
One percent, uh, and they're you're really just uh again star worship.
Judeo supremacy.
What about it?
Islam is that one percent.
So you have the majority being uh out of Saudi Arabia, the minority.
Nick should start saying Judeo supremacy and Judeo fascism.
Zionist agenda radical Islam is the conspiracy theory.
Yeah, Barnes is trying a little hard to play the part, huh?
White Falcon.
So that's my little point on that.
Nick, any counterpoint.
We see right through you, little man.
And then Barnes ask any questions you like of uh Nick.
Well, my counterpoint would be, you know, I brought it up because you know, if Israel is supposed to represent this uh proxy and a lot of people.
Guys in the booth, who funded it?
Rothschild and Warburg.
They're fighting against which act.
Play the quote.
The chosen, the noble class, the Jews, the the leader class.
You know, ostensibly Lebanon and the Assad regime.
Fifteen years late, uh huh, Henrik?
Yeah.
About time he got around to showing it.
At least not in my lifetime.
15 years late.
Have I seen Hezbollah?
Have I seen a PIJ terror attack or a Hamas terror attack on American soil against Americans?
It'll be like breaking news.
Look at this clip of Barbara Specter.
Ever before she bombshell.
...Saudi Arabia, sponsored by the Sunni Arab Gulf states like ISIS and Al-Qaeda and others.
And so it's sort of this contradiction of...
Yesterday's news today.
But we're also aligned with Saudi Arabia in the fight against Islamo fascism.
And what exactly are we fighting against if we're fighting Hezbollah, which has never attacked us, aligned with states that have sponsored the people that flew into the Twin Towers and ISIS, you know, who have attacked us on America within the last ten years, you know, let alone you could go to Lebanon and uh the bombing of the nineteen eighties, but and that was talk about USS Liberty too, Nick.
You gotta at least mention it.
He's got no answer for it.
To me, the real threat is not uh is Muslims and Sharia law, which I heard a lot growing up.
I went to college and I saw the real threat.
I was just thinking about that damn bit Bigfoot.
I probably will migration.
Judas versus black Hebrew Israelite, I will watch that.
I like doing debate.
I like joining in on the debates.
debating so much, I've got to join in on other people's debates.
Bill Crystal, among others, and I've never dealt with a Muslim trying to put Sharia law over my life, and as far as I know, they're a small and relatively non-influential part of the population, whereas Well, unless you're unless you're in London or less you're in Paris, bro.
Right.
It's true.
Right.
Well, I mean, that being said, I I was in school on Boston, I was born in the suburbs of Chicago.
You could go to Dearborn, Michigan and parts of Minneapolis, but not a major problem in America compared to Yeah, talk about Noah Hyde laws.
I don't want to hear about Sharia laws if you're not gonna talk about Noah Hyde laws.
All right, do you have any uh uh another question for Barnes?
Um I guess uh another question I would have is so if Israel is always on the defensive and the Arabs are always on the attack, I you know, I think I know where this would go, but what do you have to say about the fact that in uh out of the four wars in nineteen forty-eight, nineteen fifty-six, nineteen sixty-seven, and nineteen seventy-three between Israel and an Arab coalition, or in the case of fifty six Egypt, you know, why is it that Israel attacked first in two out of the four in fifty-six and uh sixty-seven.
What a weird question to bring up.
I'll give an example.
I mean, the best example is nineteen sixty-seven.
Uh the the all the Arab world was celebrating.
Why is this guy such an expert on Zionist apologetics?
Did he go to school of Hasborough?
Why is he in Info Wars?
It wasn't to give Palestine a state, wasn't to create, you know, to for civil rights for the Palestinians.
I'm an alumni of Hasborough University.
I work at InfoWars with Alex Jones.
I'm Alex Jones's lawyer.
And so Israel quite wisely realized that since they're about to be attacked, The best way to do it is to take out the other side's Air Force before they're bombing your city.
And so it's just a very smart tactical military strategy.
Israel understands the uh Arab mind much better, unfortunately, than the West has over many, many uh they're such geniuses.
They know the Arab mind.
They know the Guyam mind very well too, actually.
Have you their study of the Guiam?
Do you know about that, Barnes?
If Israel is wiped off the map, does that mean?
Oh my god, why do we keep talking about that?
This is such a straw man argument.
I'll answer that question, but I'll first say I reject the premise because Israel has a nuclear arsenal.
So I don't think that's really easy.
Take their nukes.
Um, if Israel take their nukes from them.
They have the Samson option.
They're they're they're lunatics.
But I'm not a genocidal Armageddon lunatics.
I don't think that's going to happen.
Um, but I think it would either be like net neutral, um, but it may even be another.
No wonder Jones has lost all his lawsuits.
Expose the enemy.
No wonder Jones has lost all his lawsuits.
Two things I would say.
This is his lawyer.
You need a better Jewish lawyer.
Israel is a key defense and a key ally against Islamo fascism, and if Israel no longer exists.
And by the way, that's the left's goal.
The goal is to force Israel to bring in all the Palestinians into Israel, they would become a majority, then they would have those nuclear weapons, and you could have an Islamo fascist regime with nuclear weapons even quicker than waiting for Iran to build them, uh, the way Obama wanted to have happen.
So that's what a confoil hat.
The Palestinians are gonna take over the Samson option.
In general, I think Trump's strategy Was the correct one?
I thought it was well thought out, and I think it's when we should continue to follow in our Mid Eastern policy.
Here's my big question for both of you, and then you go back and forth, but this is what we really come full circle on.
Why did the wars in the Middle East basically end, the conflict stop?
How did Trump get all those peace deals?
Over ten of them, no one it was almost no coverage.
Bullshit.
And you know, oh, and you know, Israel's doing peace deals.
They were peace deals with countries you weren't at war with.
And then all of a sudden it's like a record skipped, and as soon as Trump was in trouble, uh uh Netanyahu turns against him and really pisses me off.
And I don't blame Israel for that, but it's just a lot of people.
Oh, of course you don't blame Israel.
You would never blame Israel.
Well, what's going on?
His little caveat's like, I'm not against Israel.
I won I'm not blaming Israel like Israel's as well.
What's with this guy?
Because Netanyahu was at war with Obama the whole time Obama was in.
Uh even to the point of, you know, meeting with Romney and trying to promote Romney to defeat Obama.
Uh he gave one of the greatest levels.
Oh, so he's meddling in our elections?
Netanyahu's meddling in our elections.
Uh uh at the White House was a beautiful thing to witness.
And now they just see themselves in difficult position because there's a lot of people.
With the Mormon Mitt Romney that oppose uh Israel that and that are a piece of the American American.
Obama in his memoirs talked about the power of the Jewish lobby.
That barely reported at all.
Can't even get a majority to vote on the issue of condemning Hamas bombing Israeli citizens.
That gives you an idea for what's going on in the U.S. highest ranks.
And this has long, long.
Whoever's in the boardroom right now is on top of some things.
There's a lot of people out there pushing it.
The reason why Elon Omar is all excited and Rashid Tlaib is all excited.
Oh my god, he keeps bringing up these girls here, lobbyists.
It's they are the boogeyman.
These girls, the squad helps Israel.
They use the squad to make Christian Zionists love Israel.
Can't get any more obvious.
The number one backer of Muslim Brotherhood in the world has one of the number one social media networks in the United States.
The uh the idea that the Israeli lobby has this disproportionate control belies reality of United States politics.
And it's what makes it tough theory.
Trump recognized how dangerous this ideology was, how he he needed and look at his great successes.
It's successes.
Trump got all of you labeled domestic terrorists.
The do you think Trump was wrong in his policies?
And how do you explain then his successes at diminishing war in the Mid East and diminishing terrorism in the world?
Come on, Nick.
Uh yes, I think he was wrong in his support for Israel, his unconditional support for Israel.
Um, and only because it wasn't reciprocal, you know, that this was a policy I believe was in exchange for support from people like that.
Disaven, you know, you bring up Shira, but conservatives get their news from daily.
Well, if they were a little nicer to us, then it's okay.
It's like if the Zionists didn't screw us so bad, then we'd get then we're fine with them.
I think that was probably some kind of a handshake deal that he got support from Zionist backers, and that's why he he did a lot of things.
Uh we're occupied, Nick.
Say it's not everybody else, like for example, calling the IRGC a terrorist group and recognizing sovereignty over the Golan Heights and moving the capital uh around the city.
Adam versus Alex Jones debate next.
I would love to.
That was very one-sided, especially in like Alex said, which I completely agree.
Nick wants to keep his guest deal on InfoWars for Israel over his four years in office while largely neglecting certain things domestically, and then how is that repaid in the 2020 election?
BB Netanyahu is one of the first world leaders to congratulate Joe Biden and did nothing to support Donald Trump throughout Stop the Steel.
Um so I think that yes, Donald Trump was wrong, and then to answer the question about how did he achieve He knew you guys were about to be set up?
Well Storming the Capitol, set up in the Middle East, go after MLR.
Where did the violence come from with Obama?
Well, you know, Obama pursued regime change in Libya, Obama supported proxies in Syria.
Like you said, he did support these colour revolutions or Arab Spring revolts.
Um wasn't Gaddafi anti-Zionist calling out the Zionists' first uh major policy changes in April was to stop pursuing regime change in Syria and didn't pursue regime change anywhere else, and he actually prioritized bombing our actual enemies, which would be ISIS.
Uh this guy with the jacuzzi tub arms on the chair is the whole time.
How are they not going numb by this point?
Obama in Israel, because they definitely, those leaders didn't like each other.
It came out that Obama was funding the the Arab Spring, they were overthrowing our allies in Egypt and places and blowing up churches.
Uh I mean, I never really believed that Obama was really a secret Muslim, but boy, did he certainly then act like one and and do all that?
And so you know, it just makes me want to support Israel back when that was happening, because I sure as hell didn't support the Arab League and the Muslim Brotherhood and Barack Obama.
So geopolitically going back to Mars and back to Nick.
What did what did they do in Israel, though?
Obama wasn't supporting people against Israel.
It's like Egypt had an Arab Springs, so I supported Israel.
Non sequitur munch.
I think it's two different components.
One is large portions of Obama's coalition oppose Israel.
Uh and always have.
And that was because it comes from the hard left tradition.
And so there it is again.
The second part of it, you're a hard leftist if you're not a Zionist, that the way in which to know it is sad that Nick respects Jones in the world was to promote Islamist causes and to promote Islamist populations under the guise of we're going to reinstate democracy and this will be more humanitarian.
This is why they unleashed uh and supported the color revolutions.
I mean, the color revolution only succeeded in Egypt because Obama demanded that Barack that uh I love how that's like Obama hated Israel.
It's like he sent them billions of dollars.
Where were his harsh critiques of Israel if he hated him so much?
And when he made clearly, they called him the first Jewish president.
Jews put him into power.
Or a solution that would put Israel's security at permanent risk in exposure is when Netanyahu flew to the United States and lectured him in front of the world.
And so the uh but that's the bottom line is the Obama comes from a perspective that the way to create a new community.
Obama went to APAC to be in bed spoken APA.
And they see Israel as a hindrance to it, and that's why he pushed the agenda here.
Nick, your view on that.
I mean, there is a shift from total Israel support by the left and right to major move against them.
Am I wrong?
And I think Barnes makes a really good point there.
There is an international shift against Israel, but I agree with you, they're not going anywhere.
So how does I mean obviously if they let in a majority of Arabs, they're going to overthrow Israel.
They're gonna overrun the defenses, Israel's gonna go crazy and start firing nuclear weapons off, as you said, and and they're admitted uh Maybe we should go get their nukes then.
They're illegal nukes.
If that's what they're gonna do.
Oh no, we won't even criticize them for it.
Oh, yeah, that's not problematic.
You know, that's not a huge red flag.
I I don't think that Arabs are gonna overrun Israel.
And and I'll say, you know, I don't really have a lot of people.
So I'm saying if Obama and the UN got a liberal uh prime minister into Israel and say that guy didn't get assassinated like happened to the guy that tried it, and they actually try to do a one-state solution.
I mean, are you saying you don't think if if they let get a one state solution and took down their walls and let in all the Muslims, the Muslims wouldn't try to overthrow the Jews?
No, I think you're right.
I think that that would happen.
I just don't think they're trying to take their land back and their country back.
I think actually probably the Israeli politicians exert more influence over American government than vice versa.
I mean, presidents install prime ministers of Israel, I think it's a very important thing.
Exactly.
And this is where I can sympathize a little bit with the you know, Zionist position in the sense that I I am not one of these people that thinks that uh like she's humanitarian issues are a really big deal.
I think that Israel does have a hostile population living within itself.
You don't care about the humanity of the Palestinians, largely hostile in the behavior of the Zionists.
Why are you giving the why are you giving the Zionists that want to censor you from everywhere pass on this?
That's their point.
And say you don't care about the humanity of their victims, of Zionist victims.
That's where I disagree with.
That's why I got b banned for this issue on Nick.
The Palestinians aren't happy, they protest.
The Zionists subjugate them, the Palestinians revolt and get violent, and then the Israelis come in with overwhelming force.
I think that's just sort of the natural uh consequence of introducing Jewish settlers into the Middle East a hundred years ago.
I mean, this is just sort of the natural consequence of that.
And I'm not one of these people that says, oh, you know, Israel subjugate them.
They stole the land and they subjugate them.
Uh American settlers came to the American continent, and we warred with the American Indians.
Wasn't the same situation.
And ultimately was uh uh uh way long time ago, too.
And not the same situation.
There was all these other European people here's fighting continent.
Happens slowly over time.
...and now it's basically been settled.
I just don't understand that there's people on the Zionist side that can't really admit this or...
Or even with some people on the Palestinian side.
There are people, for example, that say, like, oh, well, these Jewish people have a right to return to Israel because they were there three thousand years ago.
It's like, okay, so do American Indians have a claim to the United States of America?
Do Mexicans have a claim to Arizona?
Does like Russia have a claim to Alaska because it's all just about the people who are not going to be able to the Palestinians have a right to Canaan, or who is in the land thousands of years.
Let's go back.
Make Israel Canaan again.
It's like people bitching about the Romans coming in and building aqueducts.
I mean, I get your point to that, but again, that's it's an endless football.
Pro-Roman, pro-pagan uh statement.
Gut level.
Where do you see Robert Barnes Israel in fifty years?
Uh if things go the way that would be good for a temple ruling the world, destruction of Amalek, Islamo fascism is on the recession.
Noah Palestinian cause is not the cause celeb of the press in the left.
No criticism, tech total technocracy control.
Is only going to start with the only democratic.
In bed with China, America destroyed.
That would be the goal.
I think the goal of the left is the end of Israel.
Uh they they don't believe Israel actually used their weapons.
They believe they can do so by creating democratic control.
The idea that the left wants to like military conquer Israel.
Nick needs to call this out.
It was also about to be proven right in Syria before Saad fought back.
So I think that the great danger is Islamo fascism being able to use the Palestinian case to take over the nation of Israel.
And the great hope is that the only peace, only freedom-loving uh religious.
Fascism is like nation's a government working with the corporations.
Like it's not even value.
He's just throwing it out like it's his buzzword term.
It's like the left calling everything fascist.
You're fascist, KKK, USA.
Like they don't even know the meaning of fascist.
They just use it because it's a dirty word to them.
You guys want to keep going, or do you want to uh in this right now?
It's up to you.
Uh yeah, I got to sort of wrap it up, but we could maybe uh do some quick closing arguments and uh and and thanks for the debate out.
Absolutely.
So uh Barnes give me a lot of people.
You got destroyed, Barnes.
But Nick Foy does do that.
The Jews are gonna disavow you for this.
The debate about Israel, if we dig into the court of law or dig into the court of history, we'll find that they are often right, just to give as an illustration.
Jews are always right.
The Palestine and some had been there in Palestine for three thousand plus years.
Indeed, in Jerusalem, it was majority Jewish.
John, I know, huh?
Two minutes ago, they just admitted Israeli terrorists assassinated their own elected leader because he wanted to have peace.
And then even when they offered even more to Arabs, they refused it and rejected it and sided instead first with the Islamo-fascist, then at various times with the Soviet Union, then at various times with the Nazis, and now back with terrorists today.
Oh, Islamo fascists and the Nazis and the anti-Semitic conspiracy.
That's his argument.
And Trump was right.
We should be on Trump's side, not on the side of Rashid Talib, not on the side of Elon with Trump or you you you would discord.
Uh the freedom of thought, the freedom of speech.
Israel does not believe in religious freedom.
When they have the power, there will be no Christianity or Islam there.
They want to destroy the Dome of the Rock and rebuild the temple.
Nick, your closing comment.
Come on, Nick, let them have it.
Yeah, so you know, a lot of this debate framing and as somebody that was.
Yeah, no nuance.
It's the evil Islamicists.
I'd like to reframe the conversation here away from a binary between Palestine and Israel, and say that the real binary is between America and everybody else.
Zionist power.
If you look at the story that's told by Zionist propagandists, I look at the story that's being told by these pro-Israel advocates, which is a story about Israel under attack, Sharia law on the rise, Islamofascism is the number one threat to America.
Al Jazeera in a Muslim lobby influencing America.
And in my lived experience, since I read that stuff in high school, that has not been the case.
What's really happening is that Israel is a strong country.
Israel's a strong, thriving, expanding country, which just passed a nation-state law protecting their culture and their heritage as a Jewish state.
I see conversely in America, we are under attack in our homeland, not by Sharia law or Muslim fanatics, but by globalist elites who serve the interest of global special interests, a lot of them corporations, NGOs, or foreign countries, including the state of Israel.
And that to me is the most pressing problem for America.
The question is whether or not we'll throw off the yoke of every special interest influence.
We as conservatives don't read Al Jazeero.
We read Daily Wire, Breitbart, and uh and things like Blaze TV, which are all run by Zionist Jewish people.
Ooh, and InfoWars Zionists that stand with Israel and not with Americans or Christians.
You go all of them are Zionists.
Foreign wars and foreign aid for a country that is thriving and successful at the expense of our country, which is falling apart and collapsing.
So I would say that if you are America first, no rationalization, no scholarship, none of the sort of evasive obfuscation will uh convince you that supporting Israel is a betrayal of being truly America first, America only, America first.
Supporting Zionism is a betrayal of America first.
Um just about the process of being demonized, being attacked, and what that's been like for you being persecuted for your views uh here in just a moment, and uh tell people where they can find your show as well, and then we're gonna go to break and when Schreuer's coming in, he's gonna open the calls up and callers are.
Oh, I have to stay for Schreyer in the calls.
They thought one and a brief comments we can get to a lot of people.
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That's a lot that's uh Nick's line.
And tonight it's the huge Israel.
No, I'm not gonna call in.
Oh, the foreign aid, that's a huge area.
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Folks have never been able to get through or never gotten on air.
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First time callers, not Adam.
How would you call in and say my name is Shlomo?
Hello, this is Shlomo Greenberg.
Because I'm gonna never live in the occupied territory.
And then I am going to ask him how he defines you uh after you're gone.
How he defines you.
I think there's a range of people who believe a range of things that I think are often factually incorrect, but often the debate comes down to understanding the strategic wisdom of a set of strategies, and people can have different beliefs upon that.
Uh and I think that uh Nick's views reflect a view of that's been long held by parts of the right that uh effectively at times argues for a more of an isolationist approach, uh, which the yeah they may think of as neutral and non-interventionist.
And there's arguments for that over history, but I think as it relates to appeasing Islam of fascism, I think it's a mistake.
My own personal experience with uh Israelis and people and Orthodox Jews that are the strongest.
This guy's got a hundred and ninety thousand followers on Twitter.
Some of the most uh articulate advocates, and they were some of the most dogged and deep supporters of Trump throughout his four years.
Because that he supports them.
Another foreign country.
I I don't try to uh impugn the integrity or intellect uh of my interlocutor.
Uh I tried to question whether the argument is ultimately the right one based on facts and logic.
Sure.
Well, it goes back to George Washington.
Facts and logic.
Yeah, that's that's that's what you brought.
Where we left.
They should be supporting what we're building.
Ask if his if his arms are numb.
Ask him if he's sure or unsure.
Uh, which went into the Philippines, as you know, and all the way to the Pacific.
Uh, but that is an argument for another day.
Robert Barnes for radio listeners, some stations are carrying this TV viewers and able to see your Twitter and see your uh Viva Barnes review.
Where is the best place for people to find you?
At Barnes underscore law on Twitter and where else?
Is that him?
Viva Barnes Law dot locals.com.
So people have been sending me emails asking where the letter about vaccinations is.
It's at Viva Barnes Law dot locals.com.
All right, let me just I gotta ask this while you're here.
What do you make of the Texas judge saying parents to keep their children must take vaccines?
That's outrageous.
Ice cream Trucks in Canada.
Oh my God.
We don't care what he has to say about this.
We've been going for two and a half hours.
We don't want to hear about ice cream.
Facebook says ban medical doctors, people victims, people that are telling the truth that are credible because it'll Facebook says ban this is smoking guns.
Everything posted about Jewish conspiracies.
Telling their own people cover up the truth, which is making their own people blow the whistle.
This is just outrageous.
This isn't and and Facebook's invested heavily, as you know, in some of the big pharma with Bill Gates.
So you have a group invested in a cartel in a monopoly that has three million people in it, uh saying cover up the truth.
Those are quotes about suppressed true and accurate information.
Because they're able to tell their censors who look at it before it's allowed to be posted, and they're blocking uh incredible stuff.
Yeah, well, our mutual friend uh Larry Beccraft has filed suit for the frontline doctors in Alabama say uh showing why that the vaccine shouldn't even be authorized for uh children, period.
This is an emergency use authorization that has limits on its ability to be coercive, period.
Not supposed to be coercive under the Nuremberg Code of 1947, and in particular, it doesn't meet the safety protocols or procedures required for them to go through.
So Larry's filed a great suit.
Bobby Kennedy has brought a citizen's petition uh concerning this with the CDC that this should not be authorized, that this does not meet health standards.
So important, it sounds like the spectrum are fighting back, and we have to continue to support that fight to preserve our rights.
Yeah.
All right, thank you, Robert Barnes.
Very powerful debate, very informative, and I'm sure we're all gonna be criticized for even having this discussion.
And that's my next point.
Uh Nick.
No, we're saying where has this debate been smart, and I think you make a lot of really good points.
And I and I think you're right about a lot of what you're saying.
So much of it is framing its its its perspective.
We're going to let Barnes go.
Thank you, Robert.
And uh, you know, just expanding on that.
At the same time, something that almost drove me into the arms previously.
Uh because I don't I think Israel's gonna be there.
They should exist.
So the verse group of the case.
Oh my god.
Why does he keep it's a diverse group of people?
He keeps saying that that's his talking to single state or working with the Jews.
But being bullied by the left, being called a Nazi for no reason, uh, when both my grandfathers almost died in the army.
That made you support Israel because of that.
They both almost died.
I'm not gonna get into the whole stories about that, but that was not a fun job.
Yeah, a lot of people did die because of World War II.
How did that start?
Italy and Germany and in a fight.
Who got their state uh when the dust settled?
So I mean, my grandfather was strafed.
He says this every time and got got a concussion, jumping into a hole hitting a uh a box of ammunition, and then he was basically couldn't see for a couple days with the subnermal hematoma.
He was blessed because he was the captain of the plane.
The America first people in America at that time said don't enter the war.
The whole plane of B 31, wherever it was liberator.
I mean, my point is the bizarress of being called a Nazi by the left and by the ADL and by all these groups because I I'm a pro-gun guy, I'm I'm I'm pro-life.
And and and and and I've made you what made you like Israel.
Growing up like you being taught to be pro-Israel, even though I was pro-Israel, I was a Nazi because I wasn't a communist.
I mean, I get your frustration and anger.
I'm I'm just saying there's a submortal.
But you're a communist if you're not a Zionist.
That's what this guy just argued the whole time.
All these Islamic governments funding Twitter, Facebook, Google, censoring.
They've got their own movement.
Come on, Jones.
Who's censoring?
Weird Nazi lobby that makes up everybody secretly Jewish Nazi lobby.
We don't have sanity.
We don't say Jones is Jewish.
So that's you're a Zionist propagandist.
Assault approvably from your words.
What is your view on that and what have your experiences been?
Because I've seen them lie about you, take things out of context, you know, persecute you as well.
And and and so I understand that it leads people to get pissed at that lobby.
I I just think that there's almost a trap where they mess with their political opposition, some of the left does, so that you'll then respond and kind of fall into the trap they've built.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, you fell in the trap.
Yes, I understand exactly what you're saying.
And you know, you're setting the trap because I'm sitting here in this debate right now, arguing, of course, against Israel first and in favor of America first.
And I have prominent pundits and commentators like you've described, mental illness, that say that I am actually a shill for Israel.
I'm out here making these arguments as something that's like just – That was talking about me.
Just enough of the truth to keep people down or something like that.
I think Nick was just talking about me right there.
Controlled opposition.
Jones is controlled opposition.
And I'm saying Nick did a good job.
So I think why you in particular have become this sort of cultural.
It was directed at me.
Is because it is an information war that's going on.
It's an information war that's being waged.
And when we look at what people say online, and when we look at what people say in the media, we can't take what they say at face value.
When they say you're a Nazi, and when some people say you're in the United States, Palestinians are not censoring us.
I think that you are a good faith person.
I know that I am a good faith person.
I'm approaching this when I Jones is not good faith.
You know, this is my own perspective.
Nick Nick's chillin' for Jones.
He did have him on for the debate, though, so it's hard for him to criticize when he just had him on.
Right, exactly.
Or particularly politically connected people.
You know, my father went to Harvard.
My father worked in the Bush administration or whatever.
Sounds like me as somebody that that is just a guy born to two people who just trying to make it in Chicago.
When you're hanging with Loomer and Alex Jones and you're saying you don't care about the Palestinians.
When you're leaving people into a trap at Stop the Steal and supporting Zionist shill politicians, I'm sorry when people are going to question you.
What exactly is the end game?
And it turns out that you can try to hold your feet to the fire.
It's something where uh I don't know exactly the analogy, but you just gotta have to kind of feel around for the truth because we're in this era now where so many old lies and old ways of looking at things are sort of collapsing around us, false narratives, conspiracies, and everything.
It seems to be all collapsing around us, and a lot of people feel like it's coming to a head.
I mean, that that's a normal thing.
Look how much I get accused of being controlled opposition in a Jew and all this stuff, too.
Oh, I agree with you.
And I think what's going to bring down any corrupt groups, which even if I don't want to see America collapse, that might actually get rid of these institutions of corruption, and then we can rebuild.
Look at Israel.
They're constantly indicting and killing each other and constantly, you know, uh trying to overthrow each other.
It's the same everywhere.
It's called politics.
Groups just battling for power, raw, raw control.
That's right.
And that's the thing where the world is a very complicated place.
And I want to make the point, you know, obviously I've come on the debate to criticize the Israel lobby, but I don't think it's reducible, and I think you made this point throughout the debate to oversimplify it and say, oh, well, it's Israel and they're the problem, or oh, well, it's the Palestinians, and you know, they're they're evil or whatever.
The world's a complicated place, and there's power players and actors and struggles and conflicts within countries, between countries, between different groups, and so on.
And our job is basically to parse out from a strategic point of view who represent the threats, who are our friends, who are our enemies.
What are our goals?
What are we trying to do?
And my vote goal is very clear.
I'm America first.
I want the the elevation of the American people.
I want an elite and a government that is looking out for the general welfare of the country.
And so my job is to sort of parse out who is opposed to that end, who's supporting that end, and then navigated from there.
But it's difficult because people wear false flags and false uniforms, and there's disinformation, and people can go online.
We expose how things are manipulated.
We're trying to get people thinking.
I mean, look, take Netanyahu.
He comes out and says, put microchips in the kids.
He comes out and says, put chips in people for COVID.
He said that.
And light us into the war on terror.
Protestant, a Catholic, a Jew.
He's duping all the Christian Zionists in America to get them to support him.
And it's being promoted by Klaus Schwab.
It's being promoted by CNN, by ABC News, by CBS News, by 60 Minutes.
And to me, that's what my frustration is.
I don't want to fight with the Muslims.
I don't want to fight with the Jews.
I don't want to fight with the Catholics, the Protestants, any of these people.
But the Pope, how's he I mean, you can say what you wanted about Pope John Paul II, at least he was anti-communist.
This new Pope literally sides with Islam, says Europe shouldn't be all you know, sides with Islam.
The Pope sides with Islam, huh?
I'm not against Catholics.
I'm against that Pope.
And then now Netanyahu sounds like you ought to be sitting in the Pope's lap.
I mean, there is an evil.
Here's siding with Islam.
Siding with Islam, banning anti-Semitism.
This is siding with Islam to Alex Jones.
Because you've been the platform pretty much everywhere, just like we have.
Yes.
Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me on this debate.
You're a great moderator.
I appreciate it.
You can find me at America First.live, and I'm on the air Monday through Friday at 8 o'clock Central, and I'll I'll be on my show momentarily, right after I get out of here, I'll be on America First dot Live.
All right, there goes Nick Fointes.
Thank you so much, Nick.
Well, I want to thank the crew because we've got three crews for three shows, but they overlap.
A lot of this crew's been working 14 hours a day.
So I really want to thank them.
We just did hour after hour of live show.
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His rating is now a B minus.
Okay, what's the final grade for Nick now?
Books, films, T-shirts.
They're all there at InfoWarstor.com.
And that's how we built this original hardcore option I almost want to say I'm leaning more towards like uh I mean a B minus, I'd say.
I mean, he did well, but he just being bullied and he standing up.
Could have hit it so much better.
I think they take some out of context, but I think he means well.
Dave Pandarene, C, B. Who I do not agree with and who I do not think is being open about.
I'm looking at like a B average.
But I would still have David Duke back on, and I'd love to have the new Black Panther Party on that is super racist and super bad.
Um I would love to why haven't you ever had him on then?
Uh but you can't do it because their groups attack you when you have them on and they go nuts.
Oh, yeah.
You get attacked if you bring on anybody that talks about Jews.
Yeah.
Uh is good enough.
You're still an evil bad person, even though I just want to bring people together.
I I was bringing up eugenics and world government.
Now we're all under attack, rather whether we're black or white.
He was just like, oh, you know, you you're you're a shill for Israel to like dunk on me when I'm not trying to dunk on people.
If I wanted to attack Duke, I could have done it and torn the living hell out of him.
But I wasn't trying to be the bigger man.
You didn't want to win the debate.
Funny he's talking about Duke.
He did he's it's been sitting on his soul for a long time.
Because I can sit here all day and show black people attacking white people, and it's going on, the media's hyping it up, and it's terrible, and it's done to create division.
And I'm smart enough to not write it off and say it's okay.
It's 10 to 1 black on white crime.
It's it's horrible.
I'm saying it's terrible and it's bad.
And the evil globalist media is running it.
I I'm just trying to get us together against the globalist policies.
It doesn't matter who's behind it, whether it's the Vatican, doesn't matter who's behind it.
Not important who's behind everything, guys.
They're the globalists.
Don't be anti-Semitic.
It's it's the Islamo fascists, fascists and the Chicoms.
I'm promoting ideas.
I'm promoting freedom and justice and the right to private property and right to worship as you see fit or not, or right for your children to be, you know, go to school or not, or right to drink.
All the disclaimers.
Control your own life.
And the left's all about my body, my children.
Art of the shill, yeah.
See Alex Jones, my video.
Alex Jones, Art of the Shill.
And you'll see why the ultimate act of control.
It's not like me just sitting up here saying Jones is a shill.
I I show all the compilations of him blatantly shilling.
Shilling for Kushner, shilling for Netanyahu.
You know, Khalid Muhammad.
All right.
We're gonna go to some special reports.
Just a quick break.
And we've got Jacob, Leo, Eric, Jacob.
First call, Jacob.
JL, Dave, Mark, Malcolm, and others, and uh Owen Schreuer's coming in to do a great job to briefly give his take on what you saw, and then bam, bam, bam, he's gonna go through every one of these 12 callers.
I debated Shreyer, and then we're not anymore.
Harrison did debate.
Some of these folks have children like I do, but they're sacrificing seeing them because they knew this was important.
And so please buy some.
We're in the red.
Adam Green, Art of the Goy.
We've gotten some into the black because some of the products.
Two hours and forty.
I've been streaming for three hours and forty minutes now.
So uh I want to thank you for your butt is numb of the film end games are tingling.com and so much more.
So I want to hear these phone calls.
Rowan Schroyer, and we'll be right back on the other side with your phone calls in this first debate.
And and you know, those guys weren't really used to a debate where there wasn't a moderator.
So I talked a little more than I said I would, but but they liked it.
I think the viewers liked it, and And I think I I you know did a decent job.
Uh, but people are so used to the moderators taking over and you know, maybe all that.
So next debate we'll see how it goes.
But but I think overall was good.
Give us your feedback on the other side of this quick break.
Please stay with us on Schreuer taking over.
All right.
America first, says Trump as he uh gives the keys to Netanyahu.
Here's the rest of the clip of Jones shilling for Palestine.
That's all I'm saying.
For God's sakes.
And the Jews came in there and said we're gonna actually take this small area for us.
And all I'm saying is that you got this tiny little place that's got buildings and and factories and and jet, you know, airplanes, and all the rest of it, and then everything around it is a bunch of squalor, and nobody else will take any of these people in, and it's just an excuse to point your finger all day long and say Israel's the problem if you fall on the damn banana peel.
And I'm not here kissing the ass of Israel.
Yes, you are thinking Israel should keep expanding the settlements and all the rest of it.
I think that should stop.
But every time they get attacked, they expand again.
And I I kind of get that where every time the the Palestinians try to to fight for their land and not give up their land, the Jews expand more, and I get that.
See the way he he twists these things.
You push me, I'm gonna get more aggressive.
Pushed me.
If you if you don't give up your homes to these Israeli Talmudic supremacist settlers like we saw the other guy last week, if I don't take it, somebody else was.
Don't blame me.
If if you you oppose the Jake Yaakov, then you're gonna expand more.
That's that's what Jones is saying right now.
But what Trump's doing would mess up an Israeli deal to get that oil.
Oh, sure.
He's supporting settlements in some limited areas because Israel's growing.
That's what Israel's doing.
Oh, oh, so now the s Trump supports the settlements because Israel's growing.
It's a the settlements are being built because the settlements are being built.
Israel's under attack, and this two state solution was always a fraud.
Trump's just being honest about it.
Oh, so the one state solution's a fraud and the two state solution a fraud.
So what are they supposed to do, Alex?
They have the Arab countries take them.
That's the only answer.
Israel's gonna expand out to the edge of its borders.
And if the Arabs are where's the end of the borders, Jones?
They've never declared their borders.
All the early Zionist terrorists had Eritz Israel from river to river, like the Bible says.
Is that the borders you want them to have?
Dumb enough to attack them again.
They're gonna expand past that.
The globalists are gonna overthrow everything.
They're coming for everybody.
Do you want and they're gonna turn loose on us a bunch of Muslims that kill each other and they who who's the globalists and who's they that's gonna turn them loose on us, Alex, and why?
And why are there clip after clip of rabbis saying this means Moshiach's coming into good thing?
Who funded Kalergi Jones?
At least you showed us Kalergy fifteen fifteen years.
All right, sorry.
Let's see, Schreier's uh You didn't really have tempers flaring like you may have in other political debates.
And more tempers for that is because I was missing some emotion debate for Americans is not a hill for us to die on.
It's just not.
Yeah.
Don't oppose the Zionists.
That's not a m it's America first to oppose the Zionists wherever they are.
That are more directly impactful of domestic policy and domestic affairs and just the lies.
Where are all the other debates?
This is obviously important, otherwise you wouldn't have done it.
But we're here worrying about some Yeah, don't talk about Zog.
Let's talk about traffic.
Bombing and explosions in the Middle East between Israel and the Arab world that...
That has been going on for a long time and will probably never stop.
So maybe we should get our own affairs uh figured out before we even have these debates.
But it'll never stop.
The Palestinians will never stop throwing rocks and bottle rockets.
Agreed, Alex, Bob, and Nick.
It always becomes the biggest issue.
A bomb goes off in Israel, Palestinians, you know, are up in arms.
It's always the number one issue, the whole world focuses.
It's the holy land, man.
It's everybody's religion.
That's why.
But I think the one dichotomy and dynamic about this debate that is interesting.
Shoyer looks like an Islama fascist.
I agree.
Where's Harrison?
They they booted Harrison.
Of that situation represents his political generation.
I I believe he's considered a Gen Z guys.
I'm a millennial.
I'm 31.
I'm not sure how old Nick is, maybe 24 or something.
I think he's Gen Z. And then Bob, I believe would be a big thing.
How old is sure?
I could be wrong.
Anyway, I think that it's a dynamic of generations of people who are actually formed.
Henrik says white phosphorus will end it.
Once they get rid of it, once Ben Shapiro transfers them all away, then there'll be peace in the Middle East.
Not really have a big issue with the military industrial complexity.
You guys know how old I am younger people are sick of seeing all the wars, know how expensive it all is, while they see their homeland suffering, while they see the poverty, the death, the starvation in the United States of America, but we have trillions and trillions of dollars to spend on these wars that seemingly go to calls, Owen, come on.
So I think interesting thing is the generational difference there, uh, where I think there's more of an inclination from older generations to either stand up for Israel or feel like more war or weapons in that region is the answer versus younger generations who who are sick of that standard and just accepting that standard.
Now I will say this.
The Jewish lobbies worried about the youth losing support for Israel.
Is why is it and it's mostly on the Republican side.
It may have been the Democrat side of the aisle thirty years ago, but now it's more on the Republican side.
Uh, and that's just because of the way, at least in in in the recent years.
I mean, the left is trying to keep the radical left at bay with their complete anti-Israel stance, you know, death to all Jews stance of the Ilhan Omar's and the Rashida Talid.
Come on, C's.
Dude, uh the Biden they do not say death to all Jews.
Democrats don't really.
How could you twist it like that?
Like, might as well just say Netanyahu calls for death of all people in Gaza.
That's what Laura Loomer and Milo, your friends, say.
It seems that they actually say that.
Whenever there's a big issue, Republicans always make the biggest fuss and the loudest noise and are willing to write legislation and do press conferences when Israel's in trouble.
There you go.
Israel has a problem.
Yeah.
Because they own us.
We have all these problems.
Because they're Christian Zionists, slaves.
With everything tyranny and the censorship.
And you barely hear a peep from most Republicans.
You barely hear crickets.
But oh my gosh, a Palestinian threw a rock over a wall in Israel and they're having press conferences.
And so for whatever reason...
I like the way he worded that.
Palestinian throws a rock over a wall and all hell breaks loose.
In standing up and raising a fuss for Yeah, the Jews were chanting death to Arabs leading up to all of this.
Good point, real Semitic blood.
Real Semitic blood.
I would have liked to have seen that get brought up.
And then uh the one last thing I'll say is that it was chanting blot out their name.
Uh briefly, how people have to apologize to China, like what you've seen with with John Cena and LeBron James and others.
But but let's so people say, oh, see, because there's a joke going around.
Because I think a lot of people tuned in this debate tonight.
That's a good thing.
And so there was a joke going around, like, oh, well, you know, we know who controls Hollywood because Cena apologized and LeBron James apologizes the embedded judge to China.
I debated Scheuer on Hollywood and China.
China's running everything.
Hey, hey, let's not forget though, plenty of people apologize to Israel's and the Jews all the time.
Oh who owes Hollywood really?
With liberals basically saying, They want to sell their movies in China, so that's why they suck up.
But who owns it?
They've been forced to make apologies.
Mark Ruffalo is one of them.
So that isn't that is another fact.
Just like people apologize.
These years of China, they apologize.
That's not uh something to to ignore when you're saying, oh, see, look, no, it's China's influence.
Ah, well, you know, they've also passed legislation making anti Semitic speech uh illegal.
So that there's definitely proof of of heavy influence there.
Anti Semitic speech illegal, exactly.
Thank you.
Why have they not been talking about this all the time?
Everybody enjoyed it.
I think it was informative uh more than anything else, and you're probably not gonna have an open debate uh that's that informative anywhere else.
Shut up, shut up.
Everybody else has been debating besides you guys in the future.
Now they hold their first debate in ten years and act like they're like the uh the shining beacon of debates online.
I'm I'm sure uh uh Killstream and Blood Sports is not happy about this.
We all love freedom.
So let's just skip the pleasantries, come on here.
Tell me what you thought about the debate callers, please.
Based callers these callers out.
Let's start with Jacob in Pennsylvania.
Go ahead, Jacob Jacob.
First, go to Jacob first.
He's got the birthright.
There it is.
Just right out of the gate.
You can't help it.
I know, Jacob, I know.
So great debate.
Uh I have to say, uh I side with both of them.
I see Barnes's side of the issue.
Yes, um Islamic uh radical fundamentalism is an issue, but the Israeli uh Jewish there is a Israeli Jewish problem.
And JP, JP.
He just said we deserve the JP word.
Because I want to see the Jews begin to leave uh places of how do I say this uh political influence in the West in the United States leave to come out of the way.
Political influence in the West.
Go to Israel, Jacob coming in hot difference between what Israel does and what the Arabs do is the Arabs are out in the open, most uh most of what they do.
The Israeli movement, the Jewish movement is a consorted uh in the shadows, very deceitful and and covert opportunities.
It's in the open and they've open overt worship.
Every single influential place of power in the United States.
They control the media.
They and I I I challenge every single media.
Just go and look at who is at the head of almost every single multinational corporation.
Oh my god.
Federal reserve, the banking system, the international banking system, Klaus Schwab is a Jew.
No, he's not.
Uh his ancestry is Jewish.
It was but they're not practicing Jews.
He's a crypto Jew.
It's not against the Jews.
I have some Jewish friends.
Okay.
All right, back it up.
Slow it down, Jacob.
If there was a Chinese conspiracy and they were consort there's a consorted effort to take over the international political system, we would call it out.
There's no problem.
We can Yeah, call it out.
Who cares who it is?
Jews.
And here's the thing.
People need once once it's all gonna you you you brought up a good point, okay, about this generational difference.
And I attribute that to the information war.
Yeah, we have the internet now.
People have to search it.
And no more news.
He's been watching no more news.
It's gonna come out even more.
And and it has to continue in this way.
People are gonna be able to begin.
Probably a Fuente's follower, actually.
I just challenge people, go and look who is in control.
And you will see just look.
The name.
Not the Islamo fascist.
Check the early life.
Tell them to check the early life.
Yaqov says, check the early life on Wikipedia.
Shut it down.
There's no there's no way.
There's just absolutely.
Well, let me just say what is going on right now.
Phenomenon, if you will.
And it's kind of a response to your question.
I'm not I'm not really challenging you, but you notice you don't really see in America many Chinese homeless or Jewish homeless.
Those people send to succeed and make money, and so you're naturally gonna have influence.
Again, I'm not challenging what you're saying.
I'm just pointing out that phenomenon.
They look out for one another.
No, I totally I I'm not saying anything.
It's not again.
The Jewish have a great work ethic.
They're brought up in sort of this cultural thing where yeah, uh uh intellect.
They've got Ashkenazi IQs, like the Christian uh Laura Loomer.
Very family oriented, which is great.
I support that.
But the the difference is they they they help each other out.
Okay.
It's uh it's a tribalistic sort of uh where their people are are pushed in the places of power.
Wow.
Uh now the pendulum is the overton window on InfoWars is shifting tonight.
This myself, it's my personal opinion, Is that there is a there is a Zionist the Zionist movement.
It's not all Jews, because there's like you said, there's a in Israel, there's more democratic, more liberal, not non-religious Jews who want to see a two.
Nick's strategy vindicated a Jewish plot or a Zionist one world government control.
And we talk about it.
Boom.
Zionist one world government control.
Who is this guy?
Round of applause for Jacob.
They have their own sort of superiority thing about them being Arabs, but it's really not.
You have to study the Jewish Talmud.
And I'm still going to be able to do that.
Oh my gosh.
That show that the Jewish people in their most uh basically gets an A for tonight.
This guy's dropping it harder than Fuentes.
Second Second Babylonian uh exile when that this was created.
They believe that they are the superior people.
They believe that everybody that's not Jewish is cattle, i.e.
goi.
Oh, wow.
And I'm gonna read just a couple of these.
Oh, he's gonna read Talman quotes.
This is in the Farim 15.
All children of Goyim are animals.
Ooh.
Well, look, you can quote you can quote uh uh Islamic scripture, you can quote Oh, cut it, shut it down, Owen, shut it down all night on your call.
It was a great call.
I gotta get to more callers now.
And so, you know, oh well done, Jacob.
You have to be rational about this.
Oh, he's irrational?
You're gonna cut off his him sourcing his quotes and call him irrational.
Too much in general.
Whoa.
If Israel doesn't exist, there is no straw man.
Israel doesn't hey, you know the Talmud's pretty bad.
Israel doesn't exist and blah, blah, blah.
Look at all the Jewish elite going for world domination.
Look, I understand that, but you're talking about a global elite.
You're not talking about the Jewish people.
There's approximately 13 or 14 million Jews on Earth, and half of them are in the U.S. Where's the agenda come from, Owen?
Compared to who wants to rule the world according to their prophecies and their religion.
Realistic.
Oh, not realistic.
Jewish elite globalists.
Don't read the but you can point to that and you can say they run the media, and here's their influence, and here's all the top people that are Jewish.
Well, whatever.
Maybe they just like the free market.
You can argue maybe there's not a United States because this is conspiracy in the debate.
This it's undisputable.
This is what their religion teaches.
And stuff was really gonna pop in Israel, worse than we've seen.
You say they eliminate the Jews.
He calls them irrational.
Okay, well then where where are the people gonna go?
The Jews are gonna have no.
What are we talking about?
I mean, maybe Jordan, just because we say that they're supremacists, maybe and quote the Talmud doesn't mean that we're gonna we want to blow them off the map.
Well, I guess you could say they could all go to Iran.
But does there deserve to be all victims of Yahweh, just like the Christians are?
Because essentially what the hardcore left is saying is no.
So they just again eliminate eliminate the hardcore left.
You're on the left.
The hard left is now trying to hedge themselves against wow.
That's kind of the most radical standard.
Wow.
I suppose you could take.
A plus to the first caller, I gotta say.
Uh eliminate all of them.
Yeah, that's uh bit right.
It's hard it's hard to call into InfoWars and be on hold.
What'd you think of tonight's debate?
Hello.
You get nervous.
Yeah.
Um yeah, there's a couple of things we need to get into that um not really spoken about, but first of all, I'd like to say that social math works kind of like this.
Patriots add communist divide.
I can't get it any simpler than that.
Here's the poll, if you guys want to vote on Twitter that we're not discussing.
Who won the debate, Fuentes or Barnes in the chat.
There was even a copper coin struck with the star of David on one side and the Swastika on the other side.
Oh boy, Zion Transfer Agreement.
Oh whatever you want.
See, we don't talk about that because the issues that they keep.
And that's the larger issue of of world elites, banks, military.
World elites, world elites creating Israel to fulfill their prophecies.
Cut it to enrich themselves.
It's the 1942 book, War is around.
This is what InfoWars should sound like every day.
The the Donmay D O N M E A. Don May, Crypto Jews.
And then there's also the Sabbatean Sabotage Evies converted.
We have another bunch where sabotage Sebi converted to Islam.
And Jacob Frank to Christianity.
They have created their own little game, and we're being played.
And I think the thing is just we gotta see who the players are.
Yes!
I am more important.
I'm more struck by the giant pieces of history that are left out.
Yes.
In nine in 1863, Zion Nicholas Alexander the Second sent two or three battleships over to help Lincoln.
Went to New York and went to San Francisco, and I think went to San Diego.
This is erased from history.
Because the Russia, and I think again, that's the let him finish his point.
The reason why I think.
I wanted to hear where he was going.
Old grandpa is J-pilled.
Isolationist.
Dude, this is classic.
I got to go check Twitter right now.
The world is getting so complex.
Here's the poll.
Look at this.
Fuentes 48, Barnes 12.
Total domination.
Total domination.
And just reevaluate.
Not even a contest.
There's no winning.
Leo, thank you so much for the call.
Let's go to Eric in New York.
Eric, what are your thoughts on tonight's debate?
Come on.
Three for three.
Eric going once.
Twice.
Yes, go ahead.
All right.
Am I on?
Yes.
All right.
So uh very good debate.
I would like to say, though, um I can speak on behalf of all Catholic supporters of Alex Jones that I do not particularly appreciate the kind of nasty and just frankly very insulting comments about the Vatican and our Pope.
Uh well, let me just tell you, uh our Pope doesn't support Islamo fascists.
For centuries, and the Pope is now openly communist for open borders for the destruction of Western civilization.
So uh yeah, we definitely would stand against that.
I was born and raised Catholic as well, was confirmed, and I did not take offense to any Oh, I thought he had a bar mitzvah.
Okay, well, um yeah, that was just an introduction.
Uh, I do have a question if you would talk about the Pope.
If Israel is so pro-Christian, why did the Christian demographics of Bethlehem change from around 80% Christian to 12% between 1948?
Because they became Muslim.
The Christians ran from the crazy uh Jews.
I'm not making the argument that Israel is pro-Christian.
Barnes did.
Barnes did.
Owen knows better, I guess.
All right.
All right.
Maybe uh you should have a I mean, I know they did another take calls.
Maybe you were asking that question for somebody that was on earlier.
Uh, but but explain more.
Do elaborate Owen.
Thank you for the call.
Are they anti-Christian?
Do tell.
Tom, what did you think of tonight's debate?
Thank you.
Come on, these callers.
Ground control to Tom in Washington.
I'm so glad I stayed on for these callers.
Wow.
Better than the debate.
Or did you die from COVID?
Good evening.
Hello.
Yes.
That was a great debate.
I thank Nick.
I thought more with the America First uh policy, but I think what kind of got caught up in the debate was the discussion of the Christian support for Israel.
Well, I think the term Judeo Christian didn't actually appear till the forties and kind of skyrocketed the nineties.
And Israel actually, Tel Aviv is known as the homosexual capital of the uh Middle East, and the abortion laws are kind of lax there.
So I kind of wish that's why that's why they say you should support them.
That's a good one.
I'm serious because Muslims, they're, you know, they're not open, they don't like gay people.
You know.
So it's this weird thing where it's like, yeah, you think intellectually they're more with the Torah says to stone gig going on in Tel Aviv, but uh, you know, they they they miss the reality of the situation as usual.
And the last thing I kind of want wanted to mention is an interesting fact.
What are the three most spoken languages in Israel?
Hebrew, obviously, English, and Russian.
So when Russian are a lot of uh Zionist purges in the Soviet bloc happening in the 60s, and they were all went to Israel.
So there's a lot of Russian operatics there.
And I think that's why some of the leftist leaning ideologies of Israel come from and are rooted there.
And that's all I really wanted to say, but great debate.
And I think America first was was uh winning argument.
I agree.
I agree.
I think I think everybody would agree with that.
Well, I think the American, so it's America first versus Zionism.
Because to me incompatible.
I'm with the America second in Israel first.
Imagine a caller came in and said that the relationship between America and Israel that is that is fair.
I I've heard all the arguments.
I'm never gonna be convinced of that.
It's not even close.
In my opinion, Israel owes America everything.
Boom.
America owes Israel nothing.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, it's kind of my take on the current situation.
Now again, having some Israel.
I think we should be neutral in the situation.
I think Indr Israel can handle itself.
But I will say that one point neutral means stay out of it, let them do whatever they want.
Okay.
Is that you know what?
The United States citizens of the U.S. can travel to Israel and have a peaceful, good experience and go witness that history and and go see that history.
Whereas if Hamas was in charge of the situation, it might not be that way.
I will say that's actually a fair point.
I think that was a fair point that doesn't really get discussed much.
Let's go to Calhoun.
There are plenty of Palestinian DC sites that are under their control with Jordan in the West Bank.
Hey, Calvin, go ahead and turn your radio transmission down and get live with me here.
Are you there?
Owen will be out of a job tomorrow.
Something's going on.
I don't know what this what's going on here.
Uh wait, Owen, is that you?
Yeah.
Owen, is that you?
I thought that oh, sorry, I had a another guy who I was talking to on here.
Uh it was great.
I think one pretty obviously.
Pretty obviously.
Barnes was just verifiably wrong a few times, like on the budget and deep space thing.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I uh Nick is you know, they call him Nick the Knife.
Nick the knife.
I mean, the guy is qualified.
Like he's sharp.
And this was this came off as a total gorgeous.
This guy's like three times Nick's age.
Generally, Nick kind of like he got him there.
I think mixed.
Now, in fairness, a 23-year-old just took down a 55-year-old.
The Twitter audience is mostly the younger generation.
I know.
InfoWars should apologize to me right now, Henrik.
You're right.
They know I was right.
I think the older generation This is like a vindication of like Nick says, oh, we're vindicated over Daily Wire and Charlie Kirk.
This is my vindication about InfoWars, basically.
I mean, as I should admit I was right.
Honestly, it probably is single-handedly.
I just don't want to, you know, blow it up.
Well, as he says, it's inevitable.
I mean, it's inevitable.
Not just me either.
Obviously, lots of people have been talking about Zionism before me.
But it is, as he says, America first is inevitable.
And you know, here's the one thing that Donald Trump.
Yes, you can go to Bethlehem I went to Bethlehem in the West Bank.
The church of nativity, where they say Jesus was born.
Donald Trump did.
Is it made average Americans or average citizens of the world Who would have otherwise never paid attention to politics, pay attention to politics, and then learn more about it, learn the historical context of things, so that now moving forward, I I believe Americans are much more informed than they are uh they are now than they have been for decades, and that's thanks to Donald Trump getting in there, showing the fake news, making them actually have these real debates on the issues, showing the corruption.
People actually understand a lot of these issues and care now.
Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think InfoWars realized that Nick was gaining so much popularity talking about Zog that if they didn't start to a little bit, that they would be surpassed and they would be a massive joke.
They had to save their credibility.
Jones doesn't say does Jones doesn't criticize himself.
But he watched it.
He thinks maybe he can have other people on and they can say it.
New theory.
You said you watching during school.
Yeah, I'm sixteen.
Wow, you're learning more watching, probably than sixteen.
I shouldn't be saying that.
Absolutely.
They'll sound foolish.
Thank you for calling.
Let's go to Casey and Oregon.
Casey, what did you think about tonight's debate?
I don't know what it is about tonight.
I shouldn't have said anything.
On average, it's taking us ten seconds to get to a caller now.
I shouldn't have said anything.
I cursed myself.
Casey, are you there?
I'm here.
Go ahead.
Hey, um well, really, the television is the most powerful psychological operations uh device ever created.
And I feel like uh Jewish elements, not just Jews and whole have been uh in charge of it since about seventy years or so.
The Goyam no it started off okay.
I think maybe just too much truth has gotten out the Christian masses.
But they slowly eroded everything into violence and sex and murder.
And uh they really I guess haven't been responsible window shift and now they're having to come from behind or get left in the dust.
We're the only ones that will debate these issues.
Have I ever seen a piece of media growing up that hasn't been ran through this Jewish filter?
Am I even who I think I am?
Wow.
Well, let me just say this.
I I well I'll go back and watch old newscasts of big breaking events.
Recently, like just watching all the news from the morning of nine.
Yeah, I the ADL hit pieces on InfoWars tomorrow.
You're right.
You've seen how the fake news works.
You see how they lie.
And you see how bad the lies are.
I mean, how they twist reality and navigate everything.
That's out of the bag.
It does kind of feel like this.
This is crazy.
I can't help but wonder.
It's like, what are they lying about?
What did they do here?
What did they do then?
What were all these other events?
I mean, we know about the Gulf of Tonkin and other such things, so USS Liberty.
Oh, now are we just gonna go there?
Zionists did 9-11 too.
Let's go there.
You have you know, Jeff knows these Jewish run things now.
Paul Joseph Watson meant mentioned the five dancing Israelis, like seems like it took like a major trajectory, and these guys have sort of everything.
Where was this really nasty?
15 years ago, though.
This is what we've this is what we should be seeing all along.
There's like a lot of things.
If this was what info wars look like, at least like even once a month, if this is this kind of stuff show they did, I would never have been accusing them of being shills.
Unless they were still shilling because they're behind.
Jones still shilled a lot tonight.
You're looking for something nasty to see something nasty going on.
Get the point.
Well, see, this turns into this thing where it's like you can't talk about crime statistics or or black crime or black on black crime, like, oh, you can't talk about Jewish influence in media.
It's like the same thing.
It's like, oh, you're not allowed to talk about it.
You can't.
Yeah.
I'm not I'm not telling you.
I necessarily agree with you, but I'm saying as a neutral observer, when people point that out, it's like you get the same response of like pointing out crime statistics.
It's like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, Jones was bad tonight.
They had Gargamel.
They were trying to warn you about Gargamel and Azrael.
Just the fact that this whole thing is allowed to even go down is it's not a way you look historical for InfoWars.
They they were trying to show you that a Christian society is sort of the way to go.
And I think, you know, stuff like that, you'll never see a cartoon like that again.
You know what?
Uh you lost me at Smurfs.
I thought you were making a small hat reference, and I was horribly I was horribly wrong.
Casey, thank you so much for the call.
Let's go to Jesus.
No one knows about the small hats.
Confirmed.
Well, uh about between Nick and Barnes.
Barnes did not offer anything that was relevant.
He was garbage.
Nothing was relevant.
Uh, once again, conservatives are being offered a false paradigm.
Oh, yes.
Choose aside.
Choosing a side is consenting to war.
That's the thing that people have to retrain their brains about America first.
That means not getting involved in foreign war.
That means not spending taxpayer money.
This did not start until our taxpayer money went to Palestine and Israel.
Whether you think either side is right.
Look at the money to Palestine compared to Israel.
I wouldn't compare the two.
We need to stay here as long as we have problems here, there should be no money leaving this country.
And by the way.
We should get the money that we've already they've already stolen from us.
Generation Z feels this way.
I'm a millennial though.
And we feel this way too I think our generation was hit by inflation.
That is why we don't earn as much as Red Eye says is this damn damage control is at InfoWars know the ship is sailing.
Yeah I said something like that earlier.
We already don't have the Goyim know too much and Frontez was getting too popular that they had to they had to start uh covering it some or people too much pressure was put they were exposed too much.
We have to retrain our brains this country was not founded to fight foreign war.
We are we are here we can defend our borders and what I see on the right is a lot of people like Cassie Dylan she says she's from Massachusetts so she can't form an opinion on the southern border here.
But she sure as hell can form an opinion on the borders of Israel.
Give me a freaking break.
We are in there for a...
Cassie Dillon, huge Zionist shill.
The young girl you're talking about is not alone in that endeavor.
And I see what you're saying.
And honestly, that's what I was saying is...
And this is...
Look...
I wish the callers were like this every day on InfoWars.
Where Jewish people are coming from in their defense of Israel.
But it becomes this thing where they want to control the conservative narrative.
They want to control Republican foreign politicians.
policy and in in their mind it's Israel first we're done with that we've always been done with that you guys were the ones that were staying mum on it.
On the water in Flint Michigan has anybody checked in on that in it in Colorado Ted Cruz is right in bills so you can't criticize Israel meanwhile there are places in this country where they don't have water that there's drinkable Israel and that's for a reason.
They're funded by these people both sides are funded by both sides are funded see that's a good point too is uh they feel there's more political leverage to be gained by making a fuss and putting Israel first than they do about America and that's for political clout for ADL just called an emergency meeting political I wonder how many people are watching this on their end.
We got a thous we've had a thousand here most of the night it's awesome.
Also money and they they make it seem like Nick takes the high road and then the floodgates open with the callers there are Christians in Palestine that is irrelevant though.
Israel being having a right to be Israel irrelevant yeah and you know and I I kind of disagree with Barnes too about Jordan and about Syria and about Lebanon nations.
I don't even believe they're anti-Jewish nations.
I I think they're secular and and modern quite frankly Barnes Barnes was a train wreck.
Israel has never defined its borders there you go wants to take they believe that they are promised land from Egypt all the way you know to wherever but the Goyam no river to river they are in the conquering land and I don't want the US military continuing to help them to do that.
I just my cousins my neighbors dying in a war for what how we've learned this lesson we've already learned this lesson and just when you think that we've learned it Trump just keep in mind while Trump was in they did they waited it to based girl calling in come on because they want a war Israel benefits for war even with Iran.
Israel actually wants all the world to come against them.
That's what their prophecy is all the world comes against them for war.
Arabs to flee the Middle East and take over because it's full of resources go blow each other up InfoWars people have had enough here sounds like we'll make sure our people are fed and we can get on with our lives but that is what America First is supposed to be about it's not about taking a side on Israel or Palestine.
It's about taking America's side.
What is our skin have to do with that?
We have nothing to do with it, and no Americans should die for it.
All right, JL, thank you so much for the call.
Thank you, JL.
In Idaho.
What did you think about tonight's debate?
Four.
Hello?
Three, two, one.
Hello.
Dave.
Owen.
Go ahead.
Sorry, man.
I got clicked over to one of Alex's broadcasts from last week.
First of all, I'd like to say thank you.
Bring Jacob back.
I think it takes a little bit of uh cajonas.
Uh uh talk about these things openly and honestly.
Yeah, thanks for finally doing it.
20 years later.
Juventus for being open and honest.
And frankly, I think he won the debate.
But I do think that there are certain elements of this thing that have been overlooked.
One of those things being uh, for example, real estate mogul and you know, multi multi-mil non militons Milstein.
Milstein, Adam Millstein.
Donor to the ADL.
Boom.
He is a donor to people like Roberta Kaplan.
Boom.
Oh, yeah, Adam Millstein, Canary Mission who attacks me.
Massive donor to right wing, ultra nationalist group, Ahava in Israel.
This is Dave Riley wants to ban the Dave Riley Christmas.
Right?
So it's not just a matter of one group versus another.
These people exist in America.
They are funding people on both sides of the political aisles.
In America, they are funding ultra-left wing antifa uh radicals and funding ultra-right wing nationalists.
And as Nick Fuentes said, it is nationalism for me and not for thee.
This is to say absolutely nothing of things like the USS Liberty Instance.
This is to say nothing of the promised software scandal.
Promise software spying.
The father of Ghila Maxwell went around not only the United States, but also most of Europe selling a Dave was just on red ice with me coup last week.
Even going as far as giving a backdoor to China, which is why he was found dead, thrown off of his yacht, the Lady Ghilane in the early 1990s.
Yeah, but see, I don't want to blame the average Jew in Israel for nothing to the globalist or Jewish elite.
Another straw man blamed for the activities of war models.
We're talking about promise and Robert Moxwell and elite Zionists, not the average person in Israel.
See, you notice how Best Info Wars Night Ever.
Everybody thrives changed my mind.
It is.
Best info war show ever.
Because they want to be prosperous.
So we should be leading as an example as the most prosperous nation in the world.
And then we can show the Middle East, hey, look, whether you want to call it Islamic fascism or religious totalitarianism, extremism.
Judeo supremacist.
It works for all cultures and we all get along because we have prosperity.
There you go.
Israel and the neocons.
Jones is calling in.
Uh-oh.
Damage control.
Alex, go ahead.
Uh-oh.
Wait for it.
Okay, so we don't have Alex?
Oh, come on.
All right then.
Let's take then.
Let's take another call from Malcolm in New Mexico.
Malcolm, what did you think about tonight's debate?
Hello.
Yes, go ahead, Malcolm.
Are we on?
Yes, you're on.
Oh, hey, man.
Um, first off, I thank Nick Fuentes won the debate.
Um, Robert Barnes' position was you're either for Israel or the Muslim Brotherhood, end of discussion.
Nick Quentez provided more uh details and so forth.
Uh but one thing that was never brought up.
Nick's uh Nick's on the winning side of the argument.
It's not that Nick won't.
He's on the right side of the the argument.
That's why he wins.
And I think this is significant because this was a country attacking a U.S. ship.
Yeah, and the dancing Israelis story.
How can 40% of people have no opinion?
So nobody talked.
Um Nick Fuentes was brilliant, I thought, in terms of p uh describing Israel, but he never brought up Theodore Hersell and Theodore Hersell's concept of Israel.
Oh, and he was one of the founders of Israel in nineteen forty seven, and one of the things that Theodore Hersell said.
He was dead by then.
He was dead before then.
You could say God or whatever, his God.
And uh, Israel includes Lebanon, that's what Paul said, Syria, Jordan, Greater Israel.
And about one half of Iraq, which goes up to the Euphrates.
I mean, excuse me, Iran.
Yeah, funny they want to mention the dancing Israelis tonight, but not when we got the photos of the dancing Israelis released.
He didn't talk about that.
And this is what is or when Trump was on and talked about the celebrating Muslims on nine eleven.
And at the same time, you have the Muslims who also believe they have their agenda, which is I mean, po rel their religion is part of their politics.
Sure, and you know, I see all these people sharing maps from different times of history, and you know, it's like that's like somebody saying, Oh, you know, if you're in Texas, you're actually in Mexico, or you know, you know, having a debate about it.
Whoever's in the boardroom pulling these these things up quick, these images.
We've got connected with Alex uh chiming in here we go.
Please, Alex.
Make me laugh.
Absolutely.
I'm sorry about that caller, everyone's universe.
Listening to my show from earlier today that I guess is still going out on on some feed.
Once this live show is over, rebroadcasting my show and Owen's show and all the rest of it will commence on the satellite and all the feeds.
But I I appreciate them getting me uh pipe three.
I was listening on the way home uh to the great calls you're taking, and you know, these are the taboo.
Great calls.
You call them great calls.
Uh, but I think at the end of the day we just realize that we have all these special others that come in and control our government.
Oh, it's everybody don't focus on them.
It's everybody.
Um you know, basically uh promoted in this system.
It's like illegal aliens get all this free stuff and fifteen thousand dollars a person to come to New York City.
Oh, yeah.
They're not the only ones that are bad.
Doesn't matter if you're Jewish or black person or white or Christian or what it is, but the reason I called in is uh Twitter's just blowing up.
They think uh Barnes and and and Nick did a great job of Pointest.
Everybody's saying Nick won.
But I saw this theme right as I was listening to that Catholic caller that was mad at me when I was searching Twitter, sitting there in the parking lot of my house about to go in, listening to you, and I saw a lot of tweets going, Jones is bashing the Catholics, this is just wrong.
Anybody that's why I get criticized because I wouldn't come out against Israel, not against Jews, not against Israel, not against the Israel.
See not against them.
Not against Zionism.
But this Pope has said that he is disgusted by hearing about Europe's Christian roots and uh, you know, and he's promoted open borders and and world government and the left that used to hate Catholics, um, just five years ago, loves this new so-called Pope, who sounds like he's Hugo Chavez or something.
Uh and so I really worry about it.
And don't forget, he's he's actually just bringing this up boardroom.
That's right, InfoWars.
All the rest of it uh set up by La Loya and all the rest of it, so they're not supposed to, you know, supposedly guardians of the church, I'm supposed to become the Pope.
And so he's like the secret service agent becoming the president.
But listen, I'm not getting in the middle of it.
There's good people that are Catholic, good people that are Protestant, all that stuff.
It's board room.
Look at what's with the boardroom.
People in InfoWars watch no more news.
That's hundred percent confirmed.
I was explaining that I'm not in the right wing watch uh doxxed a dude that was a cameraman that was sharing and liking all my stuff.
COVID poison?
That is 1984 on PCP.
That is horrible.
And I was explaining I bet you Jones's new employees like Harrison probably put pressure on him too.
And that's why that's evil.
I wasn't bashing Jews by bashing Netanyahu, I wasn't bashing Catholics by bashing the spake Pope.
That was my whole point was that these are bad people.
You know, Jim Jones claimed he was a Protestant, doesn't mean Protestants are actually Jim Jones.
But again, we have to square up with the fact that all our major institutions, from universities to mainstream media, to all of our doing this.
I criticized Billy Graham's son, Franklin Graham coming out saying it's of the Lord.
Take your shot.
Billy Graham got the private jet from Mennecombeggin.
Oh, that's Falwell.
Fallwell got the private jet.
I'm criticizing Franklin Graham, not because I hate promising, but but because that's evil and that's wrong.
I just wanted to say, I just wanted to say somebody's calling me sorry.
I just want to say great job to everybody.
And I really appreciate the folks that ran the live show tonight, and I salute you.
Everybody should tune in to Owen weekdays 3 p.m. at 8 a.m. this morning coming up.
Paris is a good idea.
Jones is Jones is getting a call from his uh sponsors right now.
Uh the debate was a big hit.
Thanks to everybody.
Uh except for some folks claiming trying to change the subject and saying I'm bashing the uh the the Pope.
I'm saying he's not a real Catholic.
Nobody cares, Alex.
And I'm saying he sounds like the Antichrist saying it disgusts him to hear about Europe.
The infallible, if if Catholics think the Pope is infallible, let them kove.
And maybe some of those so-called Catholics out there need to remember that.
Thanks, Owen.
Yeah, remember that.
Alex.
And uh again, he didn't call in the shill.
He said he just called in to say that he's not against the Catholics.
Not stopped going live every day.
And again, as somebody that was born and raised Catholic, I I don't like claiming my uh claiming to be Catholic now, not because I'm ashamed of it, but because I'm I'm just not a practicing Catholic.
Uh I don't receive communion uh, you know, every Sunday.
Postate.
I I don't see any problem.
You know, Catholics should be honest.
And I think Nick Fuentes has a very large Catholic audience, and that's probably why you're seeing that commentary.
But you know, Catholics should be honest about the situation that they have too with the Vatican and and all the history that it's covered up, and the Pope basically being an open borders communist.
And I mean, should we ignore the pedophilia that goes on within the Catholic Church as well?
Uh I don't know.
So uh let's just be real about it.
All right, final call just be real.
Final caller, finally, we're almost done.
Big ups to the crew.
Big ups to everybody that tuned in and shared the links.
Seriously, no more news crew.
A lot of people tuned in.
Great job, boardroom.
That's good.
Great job, callers.
We're able to have these debates, and it's popular.
It shows that political debate is needed.
Well done, Nick.
We hope we can do it again.
Nick's a little rusty, I think.
He needs to call her from Canada.
We go to the maybe on the next great debate, he'll go a little more and he'll pull out the knife.
Final caller, final call.
There'll be another debate.
Here's my very important point.
The followers of Shabbatai Zvi are not Jews.
The bankers who run Israel, who run the United States, are Shabbateans.
They're not Jews.
Jews have been fighting Shabbateans and Shabbatai Zvi for centuries.
Shabs are not...
Partly true.
They're chameleons.
They're uh they look like Jews.
They say they are Jews, but they're into the Zohar.
They follow Jewish messianism.
Well, they inverted it too.
He would explain it.
Rabbi Ariel Alurel would be able to make clarity.
This is a war been going on covertly for hundreds of years.
The followers David Ike talks about uh Bjorkness has talked about Zabotah Sabbateans for a long time.
And you know, and the whole they're not Jews, the whole thing is Judeo, though.
A Jew, it's he was the Jewish Messiah.
It's still Judeo.
You've got like it's just another it's a frabage that will call out corruption, you know, in in the Jewish community, just like you've got Catholic cardinals who call out corruption in the Catholic Church.
Uh I mean, so so and you've got Imams.
You've got uh Muslim imams that's a manifestation of Islam, Judaism and Messianism.
I forget some of their names.
So exactly.
There's good people, there's bad people.
It's about the the the overall agenda of uh a one global government, no nation states that all his agenda is that.
What prophecy is that?
Jewish or Palestinian or American, one world government, one world religion, Mark of the Beast, the one world system, the internet, jinx all humans on the world.
That's all Judeo against.
And uh, tribalist stuff, and that's what the global elites like to keep us divided so that they can eventually conquer us.
They like the Abrahamic religions to keep everybody divided.
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Right, we're done.
Whether it's the elite flag.
Let's finish with the rest of this Alex Jones video.
There's only another three or four minutes left.
Okay, with toilet paper.
I'm sorry, it's true.
Excuse me.
I'm not trying to be like this, but I'm really angry right now.
And so, again, all the BS you've heard on the internet, all the anti Israel stuff.
Why do you wonder they try to beat you over the head everywhere from conservative angles?
And why it's all BS.
Everything that's anti Israel is all BS.
This is the type of stuff he says.
White supremacists hate me so much and always claim I work.
Anyone that claims he works for Israel and and does Israeli talking points is a white supremacist.
Do you see the way he does this?
for Israel.
Everybody says I work for Israel when I've been very, very fair on both sides of the issue.
In fact, I was never even pro-Israel.
I was I wasn't against Israel.
But all the bullying and all the lies that I work for Israel.
Well, I am pro-Israel.
Oh, I thought you were neutral.
I thought you were neutral.
You're not against Israel, but you're actually pro-Israel.
I told Nick to watch this.
And it was actually their bullying.
Oh, trying to make me poor bullying.
Telling him to criticize the Zionists.
Pro-Israel.
People called him out for never criticizing Zionist power, so he became pro-Israel because they were all wrong.
Yeah, exposed.
This is just a few years ago, too.
Good luck with all of that bullying that's gone on.
Everybody's tried to bully me to attack Israel and tried to bully me.
No, I'm gonna support Israel now more.
Do I support Israel or don't I?
And I've been very, very clear that I do support Israel.
And I've been very, very clear.
People call him a Zionist.
He says he's not a Zionist, and then the next clip he goes, What's wrong with being a Zionist?
And obviously, this is all Zion.
He literally replets repeats ADL talking points word for word.
That they're scapegoated, they're blamed for everything, they're a political football.
And by the way, they make Zionists a dirty word.
Do I support Israel or don't I?
And I've been very, very clear that I do support Israel.
And I've been very, very clear that I do support Israel.
There's videos on YouTube that have been re-uploaded where I said that in 1997.
So he wasn't clear, now he's clear.
I want to say this out in the open.
I support the Jewish state of Israel.
They have been in that land, that is their land.
In fact, I was never even pro-Israel.
I wasn't against Israel.
But all the bullying.
He was never pro-Israel.
This is what he says.
He was never pro-Israel.
And then he also tells another caller, he was always pro-Israel, and there's the clip of him saying, That's their land.
That's Israel's land.
Say this out in the open.
I'm Jewish state of Israel.
They have been in that land, that is their land.
In fact, I was never even pro-Israel.
I wasn't against Israel.
But all the bullying and all the lies that I work for Israel.
Well, I am pro-Israel.
I support the Jewish state of Israel.
They have been that land, that is their land, and it's the UN that has declared them terrorists.
The UN has declared that that uh Israel has been acting uh wrongly, and the US supports.
Oh no, the UN said that the the the Jews stealing the land was acting wrongly and building the illegal settlements.
"Oh, well they're expanding so they need the settlements," he says in the other clip.
"To dissolve the state of Israel and make it a marginalized state where we know Jews will not be allowed to stay, the Arabs will run them out of there." And I'm not anti-Arabies.
Everybody wants you to take sides.
I'm on the Palestinian side or the Israeli side.
Not on a side.
I'm just sitting here looking at Israel and just seeing online in the universities and the media just constantly bashing Israel.
Now I I everybody knows I'm pro-Israel.
I think Netanyahu is a lot of Notice.
Oh, he's neutral.
I'm neutral.
And then he goes, Everybody knows I'm pro-Israel, I've always been pro-Israel.
Notice how he lies from clip to clip.
He goes back to a fight between good and evil, and real evil is about to get turned loose on the planet.
The devil's making his move.
So if you're good, you're with Israel, and if you're not, you're with the devil.
This is this is the type of mind control tricks that he plays on his audience.
Everybody better decide which side you're on.
So it's called choosing a side.
And you're with the the squad?
Big money behind being anti-Israel.
What's wrong with Jews believing Israel has a right to a homeland when the Muslims want the whole world.
A Muslim is an end.
My point is the Muslims say they they're gonna get the whole world.
They say they want the whole world.
What do the Jews say, Alex?
How many clips of rabbis have you talked about talking about their end times prophecies?
Have you uh have you looked into the Zohar and the Talmud and the Torah?
I mean, they're saying everything is theirs.
I'm supposed to just roll over and say, Yeah, have you seen the top rabbis in Israel saying that the God only made you to be their servant?
Have you seen that?
How come I don't hear him talking about that one?
Well, come cut my daughter's genitals off and throw gay people off buildings.
I mean, I'm not gonna put up with it.
We'll be around.
The Torah, the the the Jewish holy book of the Torah says to stone gays.
So why why would he even I mean i I would just leave that one alone if I were Jones.
But they still do it with Sutzhits but no going back, there's no discussion of this.
We all know the truth now, and you either choose the side of liberty and freedom or you choose the side of the new world order, allied with the stinking filthy third world woman raping ass white.
So you either support Israel or you support the new world order.
See how he sets up the false dichotomy?
I'm gonna have to go off air, okay?
I just there is a Jewish mafia at the heart of the New World Order.
No, there is a Jewish mafia at the heart of the guy in trouble for that.
Israel's doing.
We know there's kings of blackmail.
Is that they're actually using their inside knowledge of Abermoff and a lot of other issues, just like Monica Lewinsky and Clunge.
We know they were blackmailing them then.
We know Israel's the king of blackmail.
We know they blackmail confidence.
Oh, but now they don't have any power.
We know Israel's the king of blackmail.
We know Israel's the king of blackmail.
This is Alex Jones from InfoWars.com.
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It just finished transferring, so the new one should be up soon.
And then while we're at it, my other ultimate compilation, uh, Alex Jones Art of the Shill, five minutes long.
Look at this.
This is how bad it's been over the years.
This is why I I uh I don't mince words when I say that he is a Zionist propagandist.
And they want to say, oh, people's control opposition, and you work for Israel.
This is why I say it, because of this video right here, among, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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I've had the Islamist's grips, I've had the white supremacist, I've had the Hollywood crowd, I've had mainstream media bully me for 20 plus years that I've been on there with litmus test about do I support Israel or don't.
And I've been very, very clear that I do support Israel.
There's videos on YouTube that have been re-uploaded.
I said that in the Ryan Dawson.
Well, I want to say is this.
I won't say this.
I got this years ago.
And then I would just get bullied online and by leftist publications going, Jones hates Muslims, Jones is a racist.
Jones is probably on the payroll of Israel.
Never been to Israel, and then I've got all these people bullying me constantly, saying I'm an Israeli agent.
You know, they can't pay you.
I'm not, and I don't I don't know if Jones is paid directly to do this or what the deal is, why he why he's does this, blackmail, you know, sold out, whatever.
But you don't have to go to Israel to be paid by Israel or to regurgitate Zionist talking points.
It was actually their bullying, trying to make me the anti-Israel.
They'd be studying it more and become pro-Israel.
So uh good luck with all of that bullying that's gone on.
Accept our ideology or you're uh Israeli shill.
Accept our ideology.
All these groups want to bully you that we're gonna call you this big power name.
We're gonna call you an Israeli shill that supposedly has all this power if you don't do what we want.
Well then I am an Israeli shill.
There, there you go.
It's not true.
Never been to Israel.
So instead of actually criticizing Israel, he'd rather just say, I've never been to Israel and I am he that he is a shill.
But if it makes you feel powerful, if that takes your power word away, I'll do it.
I'm sick of the bullying out there to get on some baby.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Zionist film.
Why does D Live say your channel has been forced offline for breaching community guidelines?
What did I how did I breach guidelines?
Are we really not live anymore?
DLive.
Breach guy for for showing clips of Alex Jones chilling for Israel, you're gonna shut down my stream.
Wow.
They shut me down on D Live.
Wow.
Come on, man.
Eleven thousand uh banned from YouTube, eleven thousand subscribers on on D Live, and now they're gonna shut me down there too.
Despicable, despicable.
The censorship.
Oh, I wonder who's in charge with the censorship.
Man, the the goyum know, and all they can do is shut it down.
That's some bullshit.
Channel has been forced offline.
What community guidelines, D Live?
This is this is ridiculous.
Come on.
We're not allowed on the internet to criticize Israel.
We can't criticize Zionist supremacists.
This is fake Zionist stuff.
You're on the frickin' Zionist payroll.
I just want to say you people, okay, I am.
Are we live on Z Live right now?
I'm just sick of everyone being obsessed over Israel and acting like they actually are the dominant factor.
You look at the globalists and the Islamicists.
I'm on Trovo.
Go to Trovo, guys, in Odyssey.
Move aside, isn't it?
I don't have a website banned from here.
This is getting just fucking ridiculous.
They run the Fellow Reserve, you name it, they're really coming after us.
Now the communist Chinese basically run this country in the last 20 years until Trump showed up.
And so the communist Chinese are being evicted.
Quite frankly, I'm sick of the obsession with Israel.
I mean, I just don't get how there's this right wing thing, particularly on the fringe of the right wing that just hates Israel and then just ascribes to it magical powers.
And they just use Israel as a political football like a voodoo doll that all the evil in the world's heap.
Israel didn't do anything.
...running around colonizing countries all over for corporations, murdering entire villages on a daily basis.
Just an excuse to point your finger all day long and say Israel's the problem if you fall on a damn banana peel.
And I'm not here kissing the ass of Israel.
Okay, and then if somebody falls on a banana peel, Jews did it.
If somebody falls on a banana peel, Jude.
I mean, it gets a little old.
It's a big cause celeb, not just with liberals, but with a lot of so-called conservatives, to obsess over Israel, to hate Israel, and to want to destroy Israel.
And there's a lot of weird globalist propaganda as a litmus test to hate Israel.
I'm just not into the whole cause celeb thing for Palestine.
Bullied and brainwashed.
Oh life about it.
Poor poor bullies.
And a lot of people out there have been brainwashed into just obsessing on Israel all day and hating Israel.
And it's it's it's quite frankly shameful.
Because you're not intellectuals.
All you know how to do is say Zionist, Zionist, Zionist.
Until I want to throw up.
This obsession by all these losers.
Losers.
With Israel.
Oh, is Nick Flint as a lure, loser, or do you owe everybody an apology and everybody was right about you?
And you have been gatekeeping Zionist power.
D Live is I'm hearing D Live just got rid of uh Red Ice's chat.
They ban lots of people.
I mean, what did the ADL just uh call up and have a message with with D-Live?
What is going on here?
They really think that they're gonna censor us all off the internet.
How much it's just all a load of crap.
So sick of this shit.
Funyuns and hot pockets in mommy's basement and have learned the word Jew and can say it over and over again like a magic word.
The extreme right wing's magic word is Jee.
You can say Chicom and Islamo fascist.
Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel.
Israel runs everything.
Israel put me in charge.
Israel wipes my butt in the morning.
No Israel doesn't.
But I just don't want to hear Israel bash anymore.
I don't even want to hear the debate or the discussion.
Because it's them trying to set the parameters of the debate with this obsession on Israel all day.
I'm sick of it.
This was the attitude.
No debate about Israel.
This is how it's always been.
This is why it's this is the first time that we've seen a debate since David Duke was a which was a catastrophe for them several years ago.
I'm sick of hearing about Israel.
I'm tired of it.
Six years ago, probably now because I want to just say proudly I agree with a 95% of what he's saying.
David Horowitz is an arch neocon, even reported by InfoWars.
Big time Zionist neocon, and Jones says that he agrees with them 95%.
And that I just am proud for all the anti-Semites and the Islamicists and everybody else who've been trying to bully me and tell me what to do and make up crap all these years.
What you've said I am is now coming true.
Because I support Israel's right to exist.
And Israel, when it does something, has a crooked toenail.
It's the biggest thing in the world.
Everybody else is okay.
Israel's not going anywhere.
They got nuclear weapons.
And they're not our enemy.
Leave them alone.
Leave them alone.
That's his bottom line.
Leave them alone.
That's been his attitude.
What's this?
They've got nuclear.
They're our little brother, and we control them, but they've got nuclear weapons, and we can't go take them.
What?
They got them pointed at us at the Samson option.
Who knows?
We should know these things.
Meanwhile, we send them all our money and go and bow down to them.
Leave them alone.
Alright, we're wrapping it up, guys.
I'm gonna be in trouble with the wife.
I told her I was gonna be done almost two hours ago.
We're gonna be in trouble.
No more news.org should be up very soon.
The transfer just ended, so I have to build up a whole new website.
I have uh DLive may have just banned me, so go to Trovo, go to Odyssey.
This is gonna be posted on Bit Shoot.
I had an interview earlier today with the Christian whistleblower.
Check that out as well.
It was also a good talk.
And that is all.
Thank you all for joining me so much.
And uh let's see.
Alex said shut it down.
Thanks, Adam.
Super chats.
Oh, those are the only ones that are there.
They cut out earlier, I guess, because of uh DLive.
See you guys all again very soon.
What is today?
Tuesday.
I'll be back in a few days with a uh a uh news stream.
It's been a while, so everybody have a nice night.
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