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April 8, 2021 - Know More News - Adam Green
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Rabbi Judas Maccabeus & Adam Green Debate Talmudic Judaism | Know More News LIVE
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Green here with Nomore News dot org.
Thank you all for joining me.
Today is Wednesday, April 7th, 2021.
And joining me today to discuss Judaism and the Talmud.
I have an Israeli who served in the IDF.
He lives in the West Bank of Palestine, and he is an ordained rabbi.
My friend Duvid uh put him in touch with me.
I've uh he's done a few debates before.
As always, I put out uh the challenge, the the offer is always on the table if any Jews or or rabbis want to challenge me on some of the things I'm saying, or try to prove some of the things I'm saying wrong, or to try to come and defend themselves from some of the stuff that I've been covering.
So I wanted to thank you.
I've got with me today, Judas Maccabeas joining me.
Thanks for being here.
Hey, you're welcome.
Thanks for having me on.
I've been following you for something like a couple of years since they threw you off YouTube.
I haven't listened to you since then because I'm just too lazy to follow Bit shoot and all that, but they threw me off YouTube as well.
So yeah, what'd you get thrown off for?
Um I posted a lot of political stuff that was considered not appropriate.
Uh I delved into questions of identity, of race.
So I'm sorry, my dog is eating my couch.
Um I I I dealt with a lot of things that YouTube and YouTube you're not supposed to deal with, and they started like down you know, at first they start demonetizing your videos, and some of them get deleted.
So I just got rid of my channel.
I focused on other things.
I just did my channel for fun.
So were you born in Israel?
Were you born in Israel?
In Jerusalem.
And and I'm curious, why are you here today?
What do you want to get out of this?
What's your objective here?
My objective is not only to respond to some of your accusations that you commonly make and repeat, but also to give you a little bit of background historical context of the Talmud itself, because I'm a Talmudist, I love the Talmud.
It's not behind me, it's in front of me, but like my my whole desk is always full of Timudic texts.
I do research on that.
I have an academic degree in that as well.
So I'm defending something I like from people that hate it.
That's all.
You know.
Um I'm probably I can probably answer most of your questions or I guess deal with most of your challenges regarding Judaism.
Um I probably cannot deal with conspiracies because I'm not let into them.
So I can't explain to you 9-11 stuff or things like that.
I don't know.
I wasn't gonna bring up 9-11.
We're we're talking religion today.
You're ordained rabbi, and I want to talk Talmud, I want to talk Torah, and but we're not talking Zohar today.
I just recently did some videos about Kabbalah and the Zohar, but explain to us how you are anti-Kabbala and anti-Zohar.
So we can we could discuss Zohar.
I'll I'll tell you like I'll say this, right?
The people, some Jews and many non-Jews think that the Zohar is a universally accepted canonized document, uh like religious text.
And that's not the case.
Yes, there are many Jews that accept the Zohar, as well as many Gentiles who think the czar is great, but there are many Jews who hate the Zohar.
Not necessarily for the fact that the Zohar ramps up the ancient racism of old ancient texts and all that.
That wasn't the reason it was rejected, even though that's not you know, it's not a great feature, but it's because the Zohar is a mystical text that violates many of the monotheistic principles.
So if we consider ourselves monotheists, the idea is to not be superstitious.
The idea is not to pray at graves of saints.
In the Muslim world, you have a similar movement.
So you have like the Wahhabis who don't like the Sufis who pray at at the tombs of of of their prophets, right?
They don't let you pray the tomb of the Prophet Muhammad, right?
Wahhabis have that movement of the monotheist Muahidun.
So we also had that and still have that.
So I'm from if I'm from Jews who are not happy about the Zohar, and it's a scale, some of us hate it and consider it a complete uh um forgery, and others say, oh, we shouldn't stress it so much.
That being said, your attacks on the Zohar from a place of being racist and such and such or hating Gentiles, that's a secondary point for us, because we take it into historical context.
You look at um Martin Luther, who's at the same time what he wrote about the Jews, it's ancient religious texts will be polemical, and they're gonna say things that come out disgusting to our modern ears.
And as a researcher and as someone who look looks at things in context, we kind of understand that.
I'm not gonna hate all Lutherans because of you know Martin Luther's the Jews and their lies, right?
Well, well, I would say that the Talmud written in or finished and written down in like 600, and then the Zohar written down in 1300, is it doesn't ultimately change from the framework of the Torah, which was written before Christianity and before all of the uh or not all of the Christian uh persecution,
Esau persecution, but uh it's it's consistent reoccurring themes that I have problems with in the Zohar that I can also find in the Torah and in the Talmud.
So I I understand what you're saying, right?
I'm gonna have to uh counter-signal you on a few points, though, because yes, the Zohar is making a claim that it there's some sort of consistency and contiguousness from the Talmud and from the uh uh from the Tanach, right?
But so does the New Testament, and so does the Quran, and so does the thousands of different Christian sects that claim that they're the real Judaism or the real uh monotheism or the real Jesus and so on.
Religious texts are notoriously easy to interpret in many different ways, and it gives itself over to sectarianism.
So, I mean, a guy like me, I don't want to pull rank here, but forget the fact that I'm ordained, right?
Put that aside, that's nonsense, it's just a ceremony.
But I've been speaking Hebrew since I was born.
Uh the Hebrew that I speak is the same, very similar to the Hebrew and the Tanakh in the Bible.
I speak Aramaic since I was in my early teens, studying Talmud in the same language that Jesus spoke.
So when I look at uh a work in Aramaic or in uh you know, I could watch the Passion, the movie that Bell Gibson put out.
I actually understand what they're saying, and I'm correcting their Aramaic, right?
So when I look at these texts, I'm uh I sometimes feel like this is a this is a leap of faith, you know.
This is not what the original text meant, but it's a creative development of those themes.
The Tsar is taking it to another place, right?
Um we could get into that if you want, but it's like I don't know if that would be a boring theological conversation to you.
I think yeah, it's more of a Gentile anti-Isa stuff.
Yeah, supremacy anti-anti-Gentile.
And you you mentioned something.
You mentioned that uh it's all open to interpretation.
Don't you think that's a problem in itself?
That the God of the universe gave forth the Torah, which requires the oral law, you know, how how how well can the oral law be passed down?
Not to mention that the Torah in the Bible is so convoluted.
Where is the clarity?
You know, God could deliver his and communicate his message, you know, so it's indisputable, but we have all these different interpretations, all these different sects, and don't you think that's a sign that it's not divine?
Okay, so I'm not if you want me to defend the divinity of the biblical text, I can do so, but you take the Torah literally, is it all literal?
I can I can put forth my view if you'd like, right?
So you so you personally pick and choose what you decide to take literal or allegorical.
No.
No, not okay.
So you're you're you're reading into what I believe, and you're getting close, but it's not quite, right?
Um I consider the biblical text, the original Hebrew biblical text, actually all 24 books of the Bi of the Old Testament, to be Divinely inspired.
I don't consider them dictated word for word by a divine audio system.
God spoke through the prophets.
I think not necessarily the prophets tapped into level of consciousness and what they wrote, we Jews collectively have decided to deem these 24 out of hundreds of other apocryphal works, we consider these to be divine and we treat it as such.
That's what I that's how I believe, right?
In other words, if there's a law in the in the Torah that uh say I have I'm a shepherd and I have sheep, the law of the Torah says my first shearing has to go to the Kohen.
Even though the Kohen doesn't function in the temple, and I don't have any service from him.
I'd I wouldn't keep my wool without giving my first sharing to the Kohen.
Alright, that's just uh uh like a biblical law, I would keep it.
Alright.
So I treat it as legally binding from a legal perspective, right?
I can do you believe that the Talma Talmud supersedes the Torah.
No, no, but it's not how it works.
I think that uh uh if you would allow me to, I'll give you a few minutes.
I to like I'll give you an explanation of how I see the Talmud, and that would solve a lot of you questions moving forward, you know?
Instead of dealing with all the details, I can give you a uh like a basic view of the Talmud.
Maybe maybe tell me in 20 seconds, because I I got a lot of material that I want to get through you, and we're already 15 minutes in, and we're only gonna do about an hour.
I'll I'll give you I'll give you as much time as you'd like, but because this is important.
Um the Talmud is not a religious text.
The Talmud is a legal text.
So if you if you live in the United States and you have like Supreme Court, like you'll have like the the Constitution may be like analogous to the Torah.
That's like given by the founding fathers, it's sacred, we don't violate the Constitution.
But the Supreme Court defines in practice how the Constitution will be kept.
So let's say you have the right to bear arms.
So the court, the Supreme Court, I mean the Supreme Court allows the states to define it differently.
So in Texas, that can mean open carry, and in uh in in New York State, it means you have to have a license and a psychiatric exam and a good reason, etc.
etc.
Now you can argue that the New York court is wrong in their interpretation of the Constitution, and I would agree, but you cannot argue that it's not binding.
You would have to outvote them.
You would have to get the judges to rule, you'd have to there would be a political process.
Jewish law is similar.
The Talmud is a recording of the decisions of the ancient courts.
These are ancient courts that are having conversations, those are recordings of those conversations.
Does it supersede the Torah?
No.
But it defines how we're gonna keep the Torah.
The Torah just tells you rest on Shabbat, doesn't give you much details.
It tells you the secrets of the Torah, right?
The secrets of the Torah, the commentaries, the conclusions, because the Torah also means the law.
So you have the law and the oral law.
I I would stay away from the secrets part because it's not a mystical um uh esoteric text, really.
There is some like bits of esoterica in it, but for the most part, it's it's conversations.
If you read the Talmud, as you have, I've seen from your other shows, it's conversations.
What are those conversations?
Those are the minutes of the court conversations.
It's gonna be a mixture of the beautiful, the sublime, and the ridiculous.
It's gonna bring up insane things that are hard to hear, and it's gonna bring up some profound things.
If you listen to the minutes of the any court proceedings, if you have legal training, you understand what's happening.
If you don't have legal training, it's just conversations, and it's hard to make sense of it.
So that's that's the original view of the Talmud.
Alright.
Well, let's start with the Torah then.
Um, as you know, I'm always talking about how Judy.
We'll get to the Torah in a minute, but did that make sense, Mike?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I understand what you're saying.
So let's start with the Torah then.
Um I believe Judaism is supremacist, it's anti-Gentile.
And we have a few verses here.
Deuteronomy 26, 19, he has declared that he will set you in praise, fame, and honor above high above all the no all excuse me, high above all the goyem.
He has made, and that you will be a people holy to the Lord as he promised.
Thou art a holy people unto the Lord, hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself above all the Goyim that are upon the earth, and their seed shall be known among the Gentiles and their offspring among the people.
All that see them shall acknowledge them that the seed which the Lord hath blessed.
And one more thou art a holy people, chosen thee to be a special people unto himself.
Above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
So how can you how can we all read these verses and you tell me that this is not inherently supremacist?
I'll explain.
Look.
Bear in mind that the Jewish tradition always has been that we believe that our religion is binding to us.
The covenant we believe, right?
We have with God.
That's I'm gonna be the first to admit that that's a crazy claim.
It's an outlandish claim, but delusional religion to have outlandish claims.
Yeah, but that's well, just because other uh just because other religions are bad doesn't give Judaism a pass.
Judy Judaism is part of the Abraham Go ahead.
Go on, I'll go ahead.
I finish I finished my interjection.
Go ahead.
My point is that not that others are bad.
My point is there's a fundamental difference between us and them because we don't claim to have a universal message.
Our covenant is a personal covenant between the Jews and God, and we don't involve other nations, and we don't think that it's impossible that other nations have their own parallel covenants which with God and and they can have a different deal going on.
We're not we we understand that it's a crazy thing to believe in.
We we have this uh tradition that we were all there, and we have this collective memory that there was a synatic revelation, and we keep it to ourselves.
It's not like you're coming into our living room, as it were, taking one of our books that's translated, and then saying, Oh, this is supremacists.
Yeah, we uh most nations prefer to be their own people.
Most well, this just isn't this isn't your own people.
This is you above all the other nations, and it gets far worse than that, going back to creation where God created good and evil where the Gentiles are essentially evil.
Yeah.
No, so so I I disagree with that.
It's not I'll I'll get to the Gentile stuff in a second.
But again, us having our own covenant with God that we don't push out of anyone else, uh, and believing that our covenant with God uh gives us a special relationship that others don't have, is just like Christians saying, Um, only Christians will go to the kingdom of heaven for believing in Jesus, or for Muslims saying that only uh this is very common for Abrahamic religions and even other religions, right?
Except the difference between Christian the difference between Christianity is their their heaven, their end times is not of this world.
Jesus um has to come back after you know all these things happen, whereas the Jews want to have a messianic age here on earth, and they want uh just a normal, not divine Moshiach, which is just an anointed king that will rule the world.
Those are those are real world uh things that they're that they're trying to fulfill.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, I was finished.
I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to disagree with you on your interpretation of the messianic uh idea.
We can get to that.
And I I'll have to counter signal you as well that I I don't accept the difference between Christianity and Judaism in this regard, because uh Christianity also believes uh well, again, it depends on the sect, and the Jews also admittedly depends on the sect.
You got Christian sects that believe that the end of days is gonna be in this world and is gonna be a rapture, and whoever accepts Jesus in his heart will survive, and whoever doesn't will be eternally damned and whatnot, and and and they're dangerous and delusional too.
I'm always criticizing them as well.
So uh Adam, I think that we both have to accept that human beings are racially ideologically and religiously diverse, and yes, some ideas are not as uh great as others, and I would agree with you that like Judaism Messiah uh look it you can say I don't even get offended by a gentile attacking Judaism because I don't expect you to become a Jew.
I'm not looking to convince you.
You wouldn't let me.
You guys reject converts, you have secrets and you reject converts.
That's kind of an odd religion.
We do play hard to get, but we do not reject converts.
We reject them a few times Because we understand that it's insane to convert to a new religion.
Like I have can I've converted people, right?
But people come tell me they want to convert.
My first question is, what's wrong with your religion?
Usually you find that these people have psychological issues or preparent issues and family issues.
We revert them to therapy.
I believe that Jews are the most responsible when it comes to conversion, because we understand that it can destroy families and destroy relationships.
And oftentimes we stop the convert before he destroys his relationship with his children or with his parents and they sound like excuses.
Sounds like excuses.
Anyway, what do you think about this verse?
What do you think about this verse, Judas?
Uh let people serve thee and nation and goyom bow down to thee.
Be Lord over thy brethren, Jacob Lord over Esau, and let thy mother's sons bow down to thee.
Hold on.
Cursed be everyone that curset thee, and blessed be he that blessed he.
So if you if you were a non-Jew and you saw verses like this, for the nation for the Goyim and kingdom that will not serve thee.
Hold on, don't interrupt me.
Serve thee shall perish.
Those nations those nations shall be utterly wasted.
I don't I don't want to have uh I I want to address each one separately.
I don't want you to like throw a bunch of verses and say, Oh, look, let's let's deal with it.
I think these things are okay.
You want the Goyim to bow down to you.
That's what this one says right here.
If you were a non-Jew, how could you not look at that and say that's completely despicable, reprehensible?
I'll tell you why.
Okay.
We're talking about an aging man in the iron in uh in the iron age, all right, sitting in a tent with his son, all right.
And this is a time when uh different tribes of people, these nations, Goy meant like just little tribes of Bedouin type uh um uh groups were vying for power and for uh and for influence, and it was either kill or be killed, it was control or be controlled.
It was a very common blessing of ancient epics of the time, and Isaac is telling his son Jacob, he's giving him this blessing, right?
Um and and and this is the c it's kind of blessing that every kid, uh every man at that time would want to hear because uh your your uh success, your genetic future dependent on the dependent on these kind of things.
In historical context, it's it's really not a big deal.
Yes, if people interpret that as an excuse to mistreat others, I will push back on that as well.
It doesn't mean that the text isn't the whole body of the text isn't divinely inspired.
There's a reason why it's part of the story.
It's part of the story of the ark of my nation that I love, right?
As I hope you love your nation, right?
So part of the arc of our nation is coming out of this tribal uh world into a more uh civilized one.
But this is very typical of the time.
But but don't you don't you believe that the Torah is eternal and that the Torah still applies today, and many Jews still look at these verses and interpret them and and uh believe this is prophecy for the world to come that they're trying to to hasten essentially.
There are Jews and Christians that believe in this kind of thing, that this is literal, all right?
While I believe that it's divinely inspired, and I've been ordained and I've studied this for a living, and I love these texts.
I don't think that they're literal.
In the sense that yeah, I think that it the Jacob tribe, Jacob's uh seed, like my people ended up dominating a part of the Middle East, and then Edom, which was an actual nation, not some uh mystical head of of any nation that we don't like, lost the conflict.
And in that sense, the the prophecy was fulfilled.
And the conflict between Edom and and Jacob, Jacob won out.
That's all it means.
In the Hasmidian time, the they they conquered um what's today Jordan, they converted most of Edom.
Edom did get revenge.
I mean, Herod was Edomite technically, but uh because you know his mom was uh was a convert or not what not.
Who who is Edom today?
It's these are ancient what who is Edom today?
Because I see Rabbi after Rabbi online saying Edom is Christianity, it's the West, it's all Gentiles, it's America.
And you see how problematic that is when we see the the prophecies about Esau and then rabbis believe it's European people, it's Christians, it's America, it's it's Europe.
Yeah.
Is anybody that a rabbi doesn't like, or even some Christian sects also call people Edom they don't like.
When you look at the whole world through the Bible and you treat the Bible, any Bible, any as the prism from which you see everything, it's a common thing to try to find parallels.
So you would be like, yeah, anybody I don't like is Edom.
So it could be Europe if the European Union is pressuring us, or it could be America if you're a liberal.
I don't know.
It's i Edom is i is something in it's a like a bad name you give to a person you don't like because you have an ancient religious text that uh justifies this kind of uh conflict.
It seems to justify this kind of conflict.
That's what it is.
And um I don't think that it rel I don't think now there's anybody that's actually Edom.
I think Edom's genetic material has been absorbed into Israel anyway.
But go on.
You mentioned something, yeah, Christian identity, some Christians and the black Hebrew Israelites, they believe you're Edom.
They believe you're uh you're the fake Jews, they're the true Israelites, they're the true chosen ones.
And it's supremacists when they do it.
And it's supremacist when you do it.
I'm saying with those guys, let them read three chapters of Genesis in the original Hebrew, pronouncing it correctly, the way my grandfather taught me, the way his grandfather taught him, all the way back to the priests of the temple.
Like if they can do that, I'll listen to them.
Until then, they're just uh people on the internet.
Okay, I want you to put you uh put yourself in an American Gentile shoes, learning about all the things that the Torah and the Talmud say and watching rabbis talk about Esau and Amalek are gonna be destroyed and they're gonna rule and the nations in Goyam are gonna bow down to them, we're only here to serve them.
What would you think about Judaism if you were a Gentile?
Well, I I I've thought I've given this thought before.
What I would think is I would first look at the statistics and say, okay, let's see for the Jews in America, what percentage believe or even believe in the Torah at all?
Like what percentage are you're getting sidetracked though.
That that's uh that's because what is what is Jews in America?
I'm just saying, if you were a Gentile, what would you think about Judaism?
Okay, I would I would think about it's like saying, Oh, what would I think about Hinduism if you find some brave, you know, like bra like uh s savid texts that are not nice.
I would look at the people, the actual Jews, and see how many of them believe in the Torah.
Before I worry about the Torah being a problem for me, if if less than ten percent are Orthodox, and of those Orthodox five percent are actually just my neighbors that work with me and don't really care about this kind of thing and interpret it differently, and maybe within that ten percent uh half of them or quarter of them are hardcore, and they sit in their in their su uh yeshivas and in their uh synagogues all day and preach this kind of thing without any practical application.
I would consider it strange.
Uh I wouldn't like them too much, but I wouldn't be as threatened as you are, Adam.
I wouldn't be worried.
The Chabad Lubovich influence over our politicians.
You you wouldn't be worried about that.
And and it's really it's really irrelevant how many, you know, what percentage of Jews are are observant or ultra orthodox.
The problem is the source text.
When you start with a rotten foundation with rotten roots...
Then that doesn't bother you.
That should bother you as much as the case system in Hindu religion when uh when uh uh you know Indian Americans in the United States are not practicing the case system, really.
You know, like it's it's I don't see Hindus saying that that I'm subhuman and I'm a beast and that they're gonna rule over me in the the world to come.
That depends, like it depends.
If you I'm sure you can find extremist Christians, Muslims, and Hindus who say absolutely horrific things the way you find the thing look, I'm subject to my my feed is full of like extremist Jews who will show me terrible things some Christian or some Muslim uh uh um religious person said and say, Oh, this is what they all believe, it's in their basic texts, they're all terrible.
I don't take it seriously because I know that our texts aren't like perfect either, and I understand That there's a there's a scale, and I understand that some Muslims, like my neighbors are very nice, and others could be extremists.
I I look at it in a balanced way, and I would uh encourage all of us to look at it that way.
Otherwise, uh because that's the right way to that's the you sort of look Palestinian, I gotta say.
I got a Palestinian friend, you look like you could be cousins.
Palestinians look Jewish.
The irony is that Palestinians are uh genetically probably more Jews than some Jews, you know.
Ashkenazi Jews.
Um we can get into that as well, but yeah, maybe we will.
We'll see.
Maybe we'll have to do that in another one.
Okay, how about this one?
Uh make no covenant with them, show no mercy to them, utterly destroy them.
What's the problem?
Um with Midian.
I want to do each one.
I want to do each each each verse in its context, because I love these verses.
Let's do this, because this sums up Judaism perfectly.
That the jealous, the jealous Adam, Adam, any.
If you're gonna bring a verse, right?
To me, you have to allow me to explain the verse.
Because this is you, you went into my living room, you took out my text that we read every weekend with my children in a certain way, and we chant it, and we like this is our civ our culture.
You're not gonna just read one verse and let it go into that's what it means.
I know it's the death penalty for Gentiles that study the Torah, and that you can rise and kill first, because I'm a pursuer for sounding the alarm about your beliefs.
But I promise I promise.
Well, maybe if you had the power and you can get away with it, that's what the Talmud says that you can.
Maybe, but we'll I can address you have to allow me to address each point separately.
I can't uh the uh I I've been in these debates where you keep putting stuff up in the screen, and you as soon as they start explaining one, you go to the other.
Well, how many how many examples do I have to prove?
How many how many examples do I have to prove are just reprehensible before you realize okay, this is this is extremely problematic, all of this.
No, because this is an actual conflict that we're having with a nation that actually attacks us in the desert.
It's like it's uh and this is uh this is a a recording of what the deity in in the stone in the iron age says.
Like, what do you expect it to be?
Oh, go to war and follow the Geneva Convection.
Yeah, that would be better.
Not condoning slavery and genocide would be would be nice from an all-loving, uh, all powerful God.
I'm sorry, I was I was referring to different verse, not this one.
What do you think of this one?
This one says for the Jews to use usury to enslave the Goyim nations is how I interpret that.
Oh I think it's a fair interpretation.
I understand your interpretation, but I can explain to you how we traditionally understood it, okay.
We uh Jews, and then Sephardic and Ashkenaz Jews have been a little bit uh uh different than that, but for the most part, the original we consider the original like biblical approach was when you have a nation that's in debt, right?
Then that's a weaker nation.
Owation, a nation that's owed is a stronger nation.
So we have this prohibitions.
Don't put your brother in debt.
But you can lend to other nations, but do not lend to your brother at interest.
Okay, that was a it was just like saying don't it it's just a strengthen your it's a nationalist statement.
It's not a it's not because they're better or worse, because you want to uh strengthen your own people.
And we consider that if our nation if uh if we're owed more money than we owe, we're stronger.
And that's uh that's a kind of way of saying in the future you're gonna be a stronger nation.
Every nation wants to be strong.
I know I'm not a liberal, I'm a nationalist, and I think that this is something everyone should aspire to.
We you we I used to be an American citizen, I still have dual loyalties, I still have loyalty to America in many ways.
Like I I'm bothered to see that America's in debt to China or America's in debt to uh it's to itself by overprinting money, right?
I would like America to be a strong America to be a stronger nation, not a weaker one.
And same for my own people for Israel.
I want us to be a strong nation.
And okay, but still, we're called we're told that this is a trope, that this is this isn't true, and we're anti-Semitic if we pointed out that there's so many Jewish bankers.
Also uh the idea that you shall reign over the nations, the Goyam, but they shall not reign over thee.
And then the Talmud and Maimonides says you should try to get the most amount of uh interest that you can, but not charge interest.
It's discriminatory, it's in group preference, it's not uh in group preference.
Good morning.
In the in the Middle Ages and in the ancient world, we've survived by having ingroup preference, and you want to apologize for that.
I mean, wouldn't you rather white people have anger preference?
Would Jews be kvetching if if Gentiles created rules like this where oh we could do this, but you can't do that, or or we can charge you this, but we're not gonna charge our other Gentiles.
Don't you think you think they'd put up with that?
Some Jews, some Jews would, right?
And some Jews wouldn't.
I don't know.
But if I see, I can speak for myself.
If I see a nation that's looking out for its own uh national interests, I respect that.
And I actually would would wish Gentiles, I would wish Americans had more uh self-respect, more power, more pride in their uh in the identity and in their history than they do, yeah.
But but but the prophecy the prophecies say that Amalek and Esau have to be eradicated and destroyed before the Messianic age can commence.
That's the prophecies I've seen from the Talmud and from dozens of rabbis.
Let's bring them up and discuss okay.
So let's not get there yet.
This is my favorite verse.
I want to hear you explain this one.
Ye shall be named the priests of the Lord.
Men shall call you the ministers of our God.
Ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory ye shall ye boast yourselves.
You want to eat the riches of the Gentiles.
How about a religion that shares the wealth and in all we're all brothers?
No, this is we're gonna rule over the Gentiles, we're chosen, pure supremacist.
So would you like me to address that?
Or would you like to go on to next the next one?
I want to know if you want to eat my riches.
No, I'm I'm willing to address the verse, Adam.
You have to please you have to like treat me in good faith.
I came on your show.
I want the I I love the Torah.
I'd like to make a defense of it if you'd allow me to.
If you weren't Jewish, would you love it?
If you weren't born Jewish, what would you think of the Torah?
I it's hard for me to put myself in another position, but if I think it's because you lack empathy.
It's because Judaism is sociopathic, because it lacks empathy.
Okay, so are you accusing me of being a sociopath?
I think you're a victim of a tribal supremacist cult, to be honest.
Well, and I want to liberate you from the graph from the covenant of the jealous psychopathic god Yahweh.
Okay, though I appreciate your concern for my well-being, right?
Yeah, but um I'm I'm willing to address the text that you've posted.
Okay.
I'm willing to address it if that's what you like.
Right.
Isaiah's a prophet prophesizing a glorious future for a nation in defeat.
A nation that's humiliated is being defeated.
And when you say goyim, right?
Goy means nation in Hebrew.
The Jews are considered a nation as well.
And this verse itself, it says it says Kohanim, but we're called like a holy nation, Goikadosh.
The word goi is was never designed as a pejorative.
Maybe in eastern Europe, uh your you know, villages like Jewish villagers and the Shtetl would say goi and they meant it as a pejorative, maybe.
But overall, for you know, tens of millions of Jews in the world, I don't know, we have tens of millions, but over millions of Jews in the world, the meaning of the Hebrew is not a bad thing, okay?
Uh and owning our neighbors in conflict and eating the riches.
It was a I know that it sounds disgusting in 2021, Adam, but in the ancient world, this was extremely common.
You defeat it.
We were defeated, all the riches of the temple, which is our central banking system, was taken to Babylon, right?
And we're our prophet is saying, Oh, one day you guys are gonna win, right?
It's it's like I I know.
It's it's like a it's like a revenge fantasy, like a Jewish supremacist manifesto, like rabbinic ramblings on fantasies about getting revenge on the Gentiles.
And again, this is also referring to the local like Assyrians or Babylonians who were in conflict with, right?
That's really what it's referring to.
It's not something that any anybody who's not Jewish will be destroyed.
This is a very um that's not how it was understood.
It wasn't seen that oh, one day we're gonna find some random person who didn't hurt us to get revenge on.
Like we don't go after Rome today after will you dehumanize all Gentiles from the start with the religion, so you can justify being evil to them or deceiving them or rising and kill first, just defending yourselves.
I do not accept that.
I do not accept any of those uh any of those uh accusations.
We do not justify uh attacking or hurting people who don't hurt us.
Um we're we are we we were once a militant people who believed in fighting back when attacked, yes, and that can come off as pre vicious.
What about conquering the holy land?
That's not defending yourself.
That that was ethnic cleansing and genocide and land theft, similar to what happened with the Palestinians in 1948.
So look, I mean uh yeah, you can you can define it as ethnic cleansing.
It's hard to define it as genocide in the Palestinians have quintupled their population since we came, and most of the Palestinian names are from you know, in Arabic, they still ha carry their uh land of origin, you know, Al-Masr, they're they're Egyptians, they call themselves Saudi, Masri Shami, Syrian Egyptian, uh uh uh um uh Syrian Egyptians, Saudi.
I mean, many of these were workers that came to to Palestine to work because Jews brought industry, but I'm not even going to like if you were Palestinian, if you were Palestinian, what would you think of Israel and Zionism?
You know what?
If I was Palestinian, maybe I would be an anti-Zionist, but I'm you'd be in Hamas, I think.
Maybe I may be like Hamas.
I don't I don't have a uh I don't have a um a moral disagreement with Hamas.
We have a conflict over some over some territory.
We believe it's ours, they believe it's theirs.
Like they've made it very clear that whether they're willing to fight for their land, they've fought for it, they lost.
I'm willing to make a peace agreement as well if they're willing to lay down their arms, but if they're not, I'm willing to continue fighting.
I believe it's my land.
You you live in the West Bank.
You you live in the West Bank.
Um I literally live on the land where we still have olive presses, there's still archaeological evidence of my ancestors.
I'm raising sheep in the same place that date King David raises sheep.
I'm I'm not gonna apologize for it.
I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna ask for make excuses for it.
If somebody thinks it's their land, they're willing, they're welcome to come and try to take it.
Um I'm willing to accept everyone as a friend or as a foe, right?
But but then the media says, oh, they want to push us into the sea and and they hate us because we're Jewish and they're anti-Semitic.
Yeah, well, you guys say you want greater Israel, you went from Euphrates to the Nile.
No, we don't.
We don't.
I don't know any I'm as right wing as you can get as far as like the conflict.
I used to be a Kahana member when I was a kid.
Oh boy.
I used to be when I was a kid and 15 years old, I belonged to like the JDL.
I lived in Brooklyn and we were getting attacked by all sorts of people, but it wasn't anti-Semitism that we thought it was, and I joined the ADL.
I was a 15-year-old.
What do you want?
What do you want, right?
Since then I've I've grown out of it.
Um my point, Adam, is that is that the if you want to talk about Zionism, yes, many nations have come up by displacing other nations.
Okay.
We, on the other hand, we consider ourselves indigenous to that land, right?
We consider the us as have uh being exiled from there, and we came back.
We never relinquished that claim.
You think you think can it can every people go back to where they were two thousand years ago and just say, hey, we God chose us, we're fulfilling prophecy, the Bible says it's ours, and and we're gonna make no covenant with them and utterly destroy them, and if you don't want to worship us and follow the Noah Hyde laws, then off with your head.
If tomorrow the Native Americans decided to create an armed group and demand autonomy in the United States, even though I love the United States, I would be very sympathetic to that claim.
If uh the same would be for the Kurds, the same would be for any ancient people that has a claim to ancient land, and and they can show that they were brutally displaced.
I would be sympathetic to that claim.
Okay.
So yes, that would be my answer.
And there's no statute of limitations, especially due to the fact, Adam, that you yourself know that our entire civilization from well before the exile, even was based on us coming back to Israel at some point, to Judea.
So as long as we exist, we're gonna nurse that hope, and as soon as we can, we're gonna take it back.
That's just how how it's going to be.
There's no way you can stop it.
Yeah, it it's prophecy because of the Torah.
There's a you have to do it.
No matter right or wrong.
I don't look at it religiously.
It's a fulfilling prophecy.
If we believe we're gonna go back, we're gonna go back, even if it's not like from God.
It it is so exactly self-fulfilling prophecy.
Here's a West Bank settler uh explaining Nile to the Euphrates.
This is pretty common belief.
We will rebuild the third temple, we will do animal sacrifices again, and God will give us the whole of the of Israel, all the way up to the Euphrates River and down to the Nile River.
We'll have the greater Israel that we've always dreamed of, and we won't have to believe in Jesus to get it.
That's what you guys are maybe you'll be alive, hopefully you'll be alive to see it.
So that that's what it says is biblical is the is the beginning of this video.
How Adam, Adam, yeah, how common do you think that view is that you're with West Bank Talmudic settlers?
I think it's widespread.
It's it's pervasive.
Yep.
You think so?
As a West Bank settler, I'll tell you that even in the West Bank, many of us are okay with Palestinian autonomy.
Some of us are okay with the Palestinian state.
The only plans we have is to keep our land and our farms and to have place for our children.
That's what we worry about.
We're not no one is planning the Euphrates to the Nile.
No one is.
We're not like Iran, which is actually conquering other countries with Houthis.
We're not like Turkey, which is – You guys have conquered America.
I'm sorry to tell you that.
The whole religion is imperialist.
The Moshech's not gonna uh take down all the all the uh Gentile kings and and subjugate the nations?
I got the Talmud quotes.
And how little influence they have on policy.
It's it that's irrelevant.
I'm talking about what the what the originals say.
What was that?
I said it's kind of irrelevant on how many people believe it or how how likely it is that you're gonna be able to uh achieve all these objectives.
The point is is that this is the agenda.
I'm criticizing the agenda, I'm uh criticizing the root, the source text.
Are you aware of the fact that Netanyahu and most of his cabinet have no idea what the Talmud says?
And furthermore, the few Talmudists in the in the in the Knesset member, right, in the Knesset, are actually more to the left and are not looking for war and don't want to be in the army, and I just don't even like they completely contradict the things you say.
So so the Chabad Lubavitchers that are always surrounding Netanyahu, they don't know what the what the Talmud says.
The the uh the Habat well Habad are religious people that do invest some time in studying Talmud.
And yeah, they they understand it more, but the fact that they're the fact that Russia they're close with Netanyahu.
Yeah, but but but the Mufti of Syria is close to Bashar al-Assad.
Does that mean that Assad is an Islamist?
Like, yeah, they're religious leaders, they have uh they're false equivalency.
It's not because they're a sector of the population.
Natanyal was a politician who's democratically elected, and he needs to kiss up to these religious people.
Like why is this even what it's sad that you have to think out with Russian Orthodox?
It's it's it's really disturbing that the Prime Minister of Israel has to sympathize and suck up to the uh supremacist Chabad Lubavitch psychopaths.
How about how about this?
Suck the suck the breast of kings in the milk.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, wait.
Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam.
I I'm I'm slow, I'm not as quick as you.
You're a high IQ white guy, you move fast, I can deal with things one by one, all right.
Um like does it bother you to I mean I'm genuinely interested to know.
I'm not even trying to get a gotcha moment.
Does it bother you, for example, that um some crazy racist Russian Orthodox priest is hanging around Putin?
Or conversely, some crazy religious like like Islamist nut is uh is always like in the cabinet of Assad or of Al-Sisi and uh or like Saudi Arabia.
It would be level i if I saw them saying the same things that were the same threat to me as Judaism and Talmud and Kabbalah, then of course.
I'm not It's not I'm not just picking on Judaism because I have something against Jews.
It's I've done the research.
This is what concerns me.
I see this as a threat.
And and I prove it on my show all the time how it is a threat.
Okay, so I just you you responded.
I understand what you're saying.
My uh my disagreement with you, Adam, is that you're this is common.
I get this in like with Jews as well, who read ancient texts and they apply modern sensibilities in ancient texts and say, Oh, this is so terrible.
I think that you're definitely smart enough to understand historical context, and you can also understand that fundamentalists, whether in any religion will not understand historical context, but you're there's a kind of like a c uh there's a there's a um contradiction in your whole approach because you keep talking about how these texts are outdated and they're terrible, and you know, who who believes in this stuff?
Primitive, barbaric, they should be left in the d dustbin of history.
Uh uh okay, but but so you are you convincing like who's your target audience?
You you're you're trying to warn Gentiles how scary the Jews are?
Are you trying to warn people not to be Noahides?
Like, what do you see as your as your goal?
Uh I I wanna uh educate people on the threat of Judaism and Zionism.
Alright.
So, okay, so any other any other verses in the Tanakh you want to deal with?
Like No, we're we're moving on to the Talmud now.
Oh, great, great.
Iruven 43B from the Safaria, William Davidson Talmud says, once the Messiah comes, all the Goyim will be subservient to the Jewish people.
Now come on, you're really gonna tell me you can do apologetics on this.
Give me the give me the pill pull.
Let's go.
I'll I'll explain to you, I'll explain.
As I explained to you earlier, I'm gonna explain it again, and this is an explanation that will solve 90% of your Talmudic autism.
Okay.
Okay.
The the Talmud is not a religious text.
The Talmud is not a it's not the Tanach, it's not the same thing.
It doesn't supersede the Torah.
It's a recording, an open recording of a conversation that took place sometime between the year fifty to the year 450 of the common era.
Okay.
So imagine human beings living in a completely different culture and a completely different mindset, having these conversations.
The conversations are recorded by stenographers.
So this is you can see, right?
Uh uh the the you know, everything in uh in black, it's just highlighted is is uh some sort of translation of the Aramaic.
And this is human beings having conversation in Aramaic, and these are people having these fantasies of what's gonna happen in the time of the Messiah, right?
What's the biggest problem uh for rabbinic Jew in Babylon in the year 400?
Right?
He needs a Shabbos Goy.
What's a Shabbos?
It's a friendly Gentile who's gonna turn on your fire for you on Shabbat because you're not allowed to do certain things.
He's not really subservient, right?
But you're you you this it's inconvenient, right?
You need so they're th they're basically saying, yeah, what and and you know, even this, it's it's it's one position that was set in the academy.
It's not necessarily legally binding, okay.
Um but you find this theme all throughout of Judaism.
Everywhere you look, I can show you uh just uh endless examples of this same theme of the Moshech ruling the world and the Gentiles being the actual word here in the dictionary on safari is slave and servant.
The Gentiles are gonna be slaves and servants.
Come on, man, you know this is garbage.
If you weren't Jewish, you would be you would be agreeing with me without hesitation.
The reason I can prove to you that it isn't because I'm very uh understanding, unlike many Jews, I'm in the standing of like Islamic texts, I read them and I take them into context, and I understand that you know Arabs in uh i in the uh 1100 in the eight hundreds, seven hundreds, right?
They have a different value system than we do.
I'm not one of these like Muhammad was a pedophile.
I don't play that game, so I'm a little more mature than that.
But what I will say is that take it.
Yeah, don't throw a glass uh rocks in a glass house, exactly.
This uh this we're talking about a people, we're talking about a nation that just suffered slavery for uh from under Rome, right?
We were building the the Coliseum, we were fighting in the in the glad gladiatorial tournaments.
W We experienced slavery.
Slavery was a very common form of punishment of your enemies.
Enslaving nations was what was usually done at the time was very common.
And this is something that entered into the conversation.
But for every Talmudic quote that you have of uh of uh us enslaving our enemies is another one that's saying they're all gonna find God and they're all gonna be at peace with each other and no one's gonna fight any wars.
So you're focused on so the religion is contradictory and you can cherry pick it to to push whatever agenda you want.
I I agree with you, but ultimately none of this stuff is binding.
What's binding is like what you do on Shabbat.
But none of it's real at all.
I agree with that, but plenty of Jews believe it is binding.
And the fact that I understand the Talmud is debating in different perspectives and and that they're having dialogue, but still just the fact that they're even debating some of these things is problematic in itself.
Adam, can we agree?
Can we agree first?
Let's take this step by step.
Can we agree that the Talmudic text in its time for its time is not some satanic Bible of Anton LeVay that's that's trying to destroy everyone that has some design to to actually enslave anyone?
It's a conversation uh over hundreds of years of all these men that are just speaking as men do, as you speak with your friends in your living room uh or in a place and it's recording.
And then the issue that exists is they is a literal interpretation of these things and a misunderstanding of them.
Will you will you concede that point to me?
No, I don't think it's a misunderstanding, and and I agree, I wouldn't just say this is as many Christians would.
I wouldn't just dismiss the Talmud as quote unquote satanic.
I would say it's Hashem worship, and that's evil, and that it's evil and dehumanizing that the Talmud and Zohar teach that Gentiles are Satan's seed, that Samael is our guardian angel, that we're satanic and impure darkness, Khalipa, you know, the other side, uh unclean, all of these things.
Incredibly dehumanizing.
All right, because uh you we we can talk about what they say.
Let's look at text, and maybe I'll agree with you on some of them, because I'm not gonna tell you that I'm comfortable with everything in the Talmud, right?
I I'm gonna admit that.
When you come up with something I don't agree with, I'm gonna say, ah, this is this is you must be comfortable with it because you said you love the Talmud and you're a Talmudic scholar and you're a Talmudic ordained rabbi.
I love the Talmud as a whole because the because the culture of the Talmud is the greatest thing since uh I mean to me it's like one of the greatest civilizations ever started.
So yeah.
Um and I can defend that position.
Judaism's the greatest.
You guys are very chauvinistic and uh narcissistic.
We're the greatest nation.
I think rabbinic Judaism is the greatest thing ever.
But again, I I can't tell you that I've experienced every other religion and every other thing.
Could be that if I was I don't know, Maury, I would think that's the greatest, maybe.
But I'm a Jew, I'm a rabbinic Jew, and I and I find beauty and value in my culture and my civilization.
And for me, it's the greatest, I'll tell you that much.
I'm not sure.
Look, if I really thought that it was objectively the greatest, maybe I'd be trying to convert people, but I'm not.
I'm living my best life and uh and teaching my kids, and just like no I'll I'm not bothering anyone.
I'm coming on your show because you have an obsession with our text, and I find that endearing.
Well, apparently the text has uh a lot to say about the non-Jews, so I think it's important that I know what it says and wake other people up to it.
Of course, the Talmud also references the Talmud also references, and many Jews believe that in the end times you will have 2800 slaves, Gentile slaves.
Alright, so what yeah, yeah, this is Rish Lakish.
Um bin Lakish.
Alright, look.
In the world to come, 2800, the people will go with you.
But I I'm curious about this because I also see elsewhere that it says Gentiles have no place in the world to come.
Okay, so I'll address this.
Uh I'll just first this particular text because you brought it, and I actually have done a study on the Rish Lakesh.
Bishim on Ben Lakish is an early generation uh Tanah.
He was uh Tana is like a Mishnahic sage.
He most of his life was something of a something of uh of a rebel.
He was like part of the anti Roman faction.
Right?
Spent most of his life fighting against Rome.
Um the rumor has it that he was in the gladiator gladiatorial pits and he escaped, so he was forced to fight and kill people for a living, and then he escaped, went to uh found the rabbis and and like repented and became a rabbinic Jew.
All of his positions, anything Rish Lakish says, is going to you're gonna see a lot of bitterness against Rome.
He absolutely hated Rome, right?
And and his opponents, let's say Rabbi Oh Hanan and others were more pacifist against Rome because they never wanted to fight with Rome.
Within the rabbinic movement, there was right wing anti-Roman factions, like Rabbi Shimon Ben Lakish, like this guy, and then you had um rabbis who were pacifists, and said we're never gonna beat them, let's just get along with them and try to uh and try to coexist with them.
Um this 2800 just wait until they can subvert, they can implode and subvert Christianity in the end times.
So you you think that that's uh by design.
I think that Christian I look, I'm not comfortable.
I'm not gonna get into Christianity right now, we'll get to that later.
But uh you do a lot of important tangents, so we let's stay focused.
That's regarding this verse.
Reshlaqish was very right wing, he had a lot of bitterness in him, and this is a statement attributed to him.
Yeah, all right.
The Jews believe it's gonna happen.
Who cares?
Are we going to enslave anyone?
No, there are a tiny percentage of Jews that actually buy into this thing.
Um, most of us just read this and say, Oh, yeah, here's Rish Lakish with his anti-Roman sentiment again, you know.
It's uh that's what it is to us.
Okay, except it says that if a goy ste studies Torah, you should kill him.
It was also Reshla Kish, right?
Why?
Because Reshla Kish was paranoid that the Roman Romans are always sending spies into the rabbinic academies to flesh people out and have them crucified.
So if you find a Roman pretending to be Jewish or keeping the Shabbat or studying Torah, like hanging out with us, he's a spy, you need to kill him.
And the other rabbis were like, just all right, stop being so paranoid.
But maybe he had a point.
I don't know.
This was like this was this is uh uh a little less than two 1700 years ago, eighteen hundred years ago, and it was a different um different uh historical context.
Alright, I'm sure you're familiar with this one now.
You're Sephardic, this is the chief Sephardic rabbi.
They're Adam Adam, Adam, we're gonna go on, but am I addressing any of your concerns, or is this all like you complete dogwash to you?
How do you feel about that?
Uh I wouldn't say that you're satisfactory satisfactorily defending these things, but you know, um we'll let the audience decide if you're uh swaying them, I guess.
So Ovaria Yosef, Sephardic, you're Sephardic.
The the top rabbi in the country says, quote, Goyam were born only to serve us.
Without that, they have no place in the world, only to serve the people of Israel.
He compares us to donkeys that work in the field that were here to work for the Jew.
Why are Gentiles needed?
They will work, they will plow, they will reap, as it says in Isaiah that we will be the vine dressers.
Oh, and by the way, Isaiah, Ben Gurin, I wanted to mention Ben Gurion, the prime minister of Israel, first first prime minister, says that he the future that he envisions is one as prophesies by Isaiah.
This these are realities that they're trying to make real, as you know.
He wanted to fulfill the the destiny of Judaism, which when you read it, that's what it says.
We all have the same view of the future.
That's what you're doing.
No, I don't think you all have the exact same interpretations and beliefs, but you think we all want to enslave you, Adam.
We all want to put you to work for us.
I believe you think that that is the divine plan of Hisham.
You may not you may say that you don't want it, but it ultimately would benefit you.
But what do you what do you think about this?
The top rabbi in Israel saying something so atrocious like this about non-Jews.
I'll explain.
I I can address that.
Hamvadia Yosef has most of his life was raised among Arabs.
He was best friends with Palestinian, I mean Egyptian uh um prime minister up until his last day, even after he left Egypt.
He was a chief rabbi of Egypt, you know, before 67.
He was a chief rabbi of Egypt.
He was he was a rabbi in Baghdad.
Um all of his Gentile neighbors and friends remained in great contact with him and held him in high regard, even though he would quote these things as old Iraqi people do.
They His Gentile friends took it in context.
You, Adam Green, white guy sitting in America, like, oh my god, he's saying these terrible things.
I mean, look, you and I don't speak like this anymore.
This is not how to speak.
This is not something we believe in either, right?
I don't even think Hamabidya really believed this.
This is him quoting this is him quoting some sort of rabbinic or Kabbalistic uh scripture.
This is Jacob and Esau.
Wait, wait.
There are millions of lines of text of his classes, and plenty of them say the opposites contradictory.
Some will be this, and some will be like, oh no, uh, we have to be nice to them because they're they helped us, and we have to be we have to make peace with the Arabs.
He was very forward of the Oslo Accords.
Okay, well, okay, well, by that logic, you you could say, oh, well, you know, I I a lot of times I'm really nice to my wife, but you know, only it's very rarely I'll just punch her in the face, you know.
So it's okay because I'm mostly nice to her.
But he's not punching anyone in the face, though, right?
He's this feels like a punch in the face.
When I see the top rabbi in Israel saying something like this, I think I find this intolerable and unacceptable.
You know what?
I don't even disagree with you that this is unacceptable to speak this way.
Yeah, I would I would agree with you to that.
And he got the biggest funeral in Israeli history.
Yeah, he was a very influential person who did a lot in Israel that affected people's lives, and they loved him.
But they didn't love him because of what he said about Gentiles.
They loved him because of his uh school system that he set up because of the books that he wrote, because of his his uh reasonable reinterpretation of Jewish law that united millions of Jews to not be to be able to be practicing the same law.
He did other things that made him great.
This few con the the one page of uh obscene text that you can uh extract from all of the volumes of his writings doesn't define this man, just like your worst moment doesn't define you.
I'm I'm not gonna Okay, but this isn't his worst moment.
This is probably something that uh belief that he's held that has been consistent throughout his whole life.
This is straight from the Torah in Jacob and Esau that he shall serve his brother, the elder shall serve the younger.
What's the problem with ancient with with enslaving the Gentiles?
What does that have to do with you?
Why are you worried that two Middle Eastern men 3,000 years ago had some sort of tribal conflict?
Your obsession with this is amazing to me.
I mean, I'm descended from those men, so I find it hilarious.
But like, from your perspective, like Esau and a Jacob, like what the hell, man?
Because some tiny 3% of Orthodox Jews think that you may be a Esau, so what?
Would you wear this shirt in Israel?
If I sent you this shirt?
That's hilarious.
No one would get it.
It would be it would be it would be if I went into a bar with that, it would be hilarious.
I'm gonna have a shirt that's it that says Jacob hates hates Esau.
No, it says Esau better than Jacob.
Yeah, no, but Jacob hates Esau.
That would be another one here.
How about this one too?
You think this one would I get would I get beat up if I walk through the West Bank wearing this?
If you wore this, I walk through a Talmudic settlement.
Look, bro, we we Jews we're not really confrontational physically.
You can get a lot of whining.
You're gonna get like, well, I wang now, what do you want to do?
By deception, they they wage war.
Secretly in deception, they wage war on Esau and Amalek.
I know the tricks, man.
You want to talk about Amalek?
We can discuss Amalek.
You want to talk about seven uh Noahide laws.
I know we've got twenty twenty-five minutes left, and I've got I I prepped way too much for this.
I'll give you a fun.
I'll give you another hour.
Maybe an hour and forty-five minutes.
How about this?
Okay, this is on the bus.
At the back of a bus, an advertisement.
Can you read that?
Yeah.
The Rebbe there.
This is an accurate is this an accurate uh translation?
Okay, you're you realize that within Chabad, this is like an extremely um uh it's a fringe group in Chabad that bought an ad on a bus in a religious neighborhood, right?
What do you care that some fringe broke Uh end of times apocalyptic cult in Israel believes that they need to tell you what to do.
They have no effect on your lives, Adam.
The people that do.
Oh, they do.
Habad Lubavitch is uh the Rebbe is honored in our country.
The seven they're trying to push the seven Noahide laws worldwide.
Our gu uh Jared Kushner in his uh role in the White House, Putin, Netanyahu, all of these people don't.
I mean, yes, Habad Lubovich is somewhat marginalized in the Jewish communities, but they have they're the they are Judaism.
They are modern day Judaism, is Habad Lubavitch.
More than any other Jewish sect.
Yeah.
Adam, you're you're suggesting.
I I disagree with you, Tabada's Judaism.
We mock them here, but whatever.
Um They mock you.
They probably think you're not kosher.
Listen, Adam, you you're suggesting that Putin, Netanyahu, Trump, Biden, they're all ganging up on you to make Adam and some other white people follow the seven laws of Noah.
That's what you believe.
That's the design.
Rabbi Cohen at the UN.
Oh, they're trying to make anti-Semitism illegal, which is is de facto implementing the Noahide laws here.
Slow down, slow down.
All right.
You're saying anybody who's against anti-Semitism is trying to enforce uh this the Noahide laws.
Trying to criminalize anti-Semitism with a definition that's so broad that it leaves no criticism, is in effect implementing the seven Noahide laws.
What did that have to do?
I I understand that it's a free speech issue, right?
But how is that uh seven No Hide Laws?
Blasphemy.
Yes, the the first one is blasphemy, and that's blasphemy.
It's not about Jews, though.
Blasphemy is about blasphemy, is about um is about God.
But you know what?
It's interpreted blasphemy on God or his chosen people or his Torah or his synagogue or Moshiach, all of it is how it's interpreted.
I I hear your position.
I hear your position, I'm gonna address it, right?
The seven no you know what the seven Noahide laws are?
What are the seven Noah?
They're they're rubbish.
They're they're the one world religion to uh enslave the Gentiles.
You're in a school.
You're in okay, Adam.
Don't be uh uh digmatic about it for a moment.
Take yourself out of uh your your political position and your crusade to warn everyone of the Jews.
Think right now you're in college and you're explaining to college kids what was the original design of the seven Noahide laws.
You just want to tell them what it is, on unaffected.
What would you say?
If what would I say to say what the seven Noahide laws are?
It's the rabbinical Talmudic, Chabad Lubavitch, Maimonides, uh Rebi Schneerson's push for to convert the idol worshipping Christians to get Esau to repent and serve the Jews and help follow the seven Noahide laws, which most importantly includes acknowledging Jews as the nation of priests and God's chosen people.
It's basically Shabos Goy's worshiping Jews.
That that's what Judaism is a religion not worshipping Hashem.
That's the invisible friend in the sky.
It's really about worshiping yourselves.
Alright, so can I that's a pretty profound point, and I'd like to address that, right?
Thank you.
Can I address the Noah laws now?
Yes.
First of all, I like what you said, about not about worshiping this about worshiping yourself.
I like that, but I'll I'll I'll I'll you would like it.
That's what it is.
I like it because you're because you know what, Adam?
The truth is you're a pretty sharp guy.
That's the truth.
You're a smart guy.
The fact that you're off about things doesn't mean you're not smart, but I'm not here to judge you.
Let's uh let's move.
Let's let's discuss this.
Leave that up to Moshiach to judge, and I am Amalek.
Let Moshiach be let it be known I am Amalek when Moshiach's here.
Yeah.
The seven laws, all right.
The original context of the seven laws, and this you would be able to see this even in Maimonides if you've read it as well as in the Talmud.
It's not some universal rule for all Gentiles.
It was Jewish nation in the land of Israel controlled certain borders at the time.
And we had Gentiles who were not Jews who were living among us.
The seven laws were the legal system we apply to them.
So just like Jews have one legal system, like Jews have to keep the Shabbat, have to keep on Yom Kippur, they have to fast on Passover, they need to bring a sacrifice.
If you weren't from the Jews, then what did you need to do?
Simple seven laws.
Up until today, every nation.
If you like if I'm uh uh if I'm uh uh an odd American citizen, I'm a tourist, and I get into a driving accident, the laws that apply to me is gonna be different than the laws that apply to a citizen, right?
I can't vote.
There's different legal differences.
That's what the seven Noahide laws originally were.
It takes a lot of Hutzpah to try to push your religion and your God and your laws on the rest of the Goyam.
Okay.
No, no, no.
Adam, no, no.
It's not a religion.
It's if you notice the seven the seven Noahide laws don't tell you exactly what kind of religion to have.
It just tells you whatever religion you have, it can't be anti-Jewish, and it has to be monotheistic.
Because if you hear we don't want pagan idol worship.
That was the only uh religious thing.
Everything else was don't eat from a living animal.
We consider that cruel.
You don't have to keep kosher and do this uber at that time humane type of slaughter, but you can't eat a living animal, right?
You have to have justice, you can't like honor kill your daughters for texting their boyfriends.
It was stuff like that.
Now, uh let me make my point here.
In Christianity is idol worship.
Well, Adam, Adam, Adam, you make you raising good points, but we're never gonna finish one subject if we keep going into tangents.
In Talmud class, you would be an absolute disaster.
All right, we would never finish the text.
So um, let's uh let's deal deal with this.
I would be a disaster.
I would be a wrecking ball in Talmud class.
I think you're right about that.
Adam, the the seven laws of I'll be glad to give you an intro to Talmud if you ever want, like original Talmud training, and just to show you what our works, the mechanisms of it, it would help you.
But we but we digress.
Um the the Noahide laws themselves were not really religious per se.
They were legally binding on non-citizens of ancient Judea, right?
You're a non-citizen, they gave you a uh a paper, they gave you a doc papyrus, whatever it was, said you know what, this is what you need to follow over here.
That's all it was.
Now, mystic mystical people, fundamentalists, try to uh maybe say that that's universal moral laws for all of mankind.
Uh Rabbi Schneerson was one of those people.
Most Jews do not follow Rabbi Shnearrison.
I don't follow Rabbi Shirason, right?
Rabesh, the the fact that Habad rabbis have seem to have influence, it's yeah, they're they're a large group, they have politics they have a lot of people in the United States.
Um they they try to uh uh push themselves off as representing all Jews, and American politicians tolerate them.
No one's implementing those seven laws.
American politicians sure they are.
A big Adam, that's crazy.
That's ridiculous.
You think the United States of America cares about some ancient biblical laws for Gentiles?
Adam, I don't even believe that you believe that.
I think that's it's delusional.
That's more delusional than believing that that the Talmud is from God.
Like it's just it's just doesn't make any sense.
Politicians are going to appeal to religious leaders because of political reasons, because they want to get the Jewish vote.
Or Jewish support.
Let me show you something, okay?
This is the universal funny, you said it's not a universal uh laws, universal Noahide UN on Capitol Hill.
This is them at the United Nations taking this seriously.
What's the punishment according to Maimonides and the Talmud?
What's the punishment for Gentiles that don't want to follow your laws?
It's the same the same punishment for a Jew who violates Shabbat, right?
If a Jew lights a fire on Shabbat, he's the punishment is death.
Did we think we went around killing all Jews who didn't keep Shabbat or killing all Gentiles who maybe ate uh uh living fish or something?
We didn't do that, but that was the official rule.
Uh that uh it was written about the same time the Hammurabi code was was written.
Like, yeah, the everything is death.
So what?
You think you think tomorrow in the United States, Christians are gonna be killed for being Christians because Chabad have I didn't say tomorrow.
You realize that is the plan, regardless if it'll ever happen, that's the plan.
I don't think it's a plan.
You know what?
I don't know, nobody told me of this plan, all right?
I'm not a Chabad guy.
Uh no one told me of this plan, but I'm my neighbors are Habad people, and I don't think that's the case.
No one has such plans.
Habad people, what they want is their brand of Judaism to be more accepted among Jews, and for non-Jews, they want non-Jews to follow the seven Noahide laws, but the way they see the seven Noahide laws, they just see it as being just a nice guy, like and and being and believing in God and being nice to the Jews as opposed to being anti-Semitic.
That's how they see it, you know.
Okay, so if I say that Hashem, if I if Amalek is described as those who don't believe in Hashem, who mock Hashem, who have doubt, who don't want to be Noahides, that's basically who Amalek is.
What no, no, that's not who Amalek is.
Amalek is an actual ancient tribe.
And I can just I can explain to you the context of Amalek if you'd like.
I hope it's not boring.
I I know the context.
I've watched hours and hours and hours of rabbis explain Amalek and read a ton about Amalek.
I I know you have, and uh maybe you uh some of your audience have as well, but I I think I have what to tell you about Amalek that you didn't consider before with all of your research, right?
Um the original Amalek was just a group of people that attacked us who did they didn't have a territorial dispute with us.
They just do you really think this happened, or is this a fictitious story?
It's irrelevant because it's a stor because it's a foundational myth.
Foundational myth, yeah.
Like did uh the Julius Caesar actually say to Brutus this, that, or the other.
I don't know.
But the s the the Shakespearean definition of Julius Caesar is more powerful than whatever happened.
So let's pretend that it did it happen for now, right?
Uh we have and and and this is how Amalek has affected like the Jewish mindset, right?
Um we're we're coming from the desert, and we have a uh we're gonna have a conflict, a territorial conflict with Canaanites, right?
Living in Canaan.
Amalek were not canonized, we didn't have any territorial uh uh convergence of interests.
They attacked us for seemingly no reason.
There was no reason to do so.
All right.
So at that time, the law was all right.
In the future, these people or anybody like that who attacks you with no reason.
Like, we're not talking about someone who you have an actual d debateable definable conflict.
They want land from you, they want uh you're fighting over uh resources.
No, they just want to kill you.
If you have people like that, whatever laws of war apply, don't apply to them.
So let's say you're another nation, you need to give them an offer for peace, you need to give them a chance to escape.
There's certain rules of war, they don't apply to Amalek.
Now, in the future, the prophecy is saying, there's going to be others that are gonna exhibit Amalekite um Amalekite uh um uh behavior.
When they do that, take the gloves off.
So let's say a guy like Haman, right?
Again, it's not important that Haman existed or not.
It's not the point.
But he didn't have a guy.
You know, Esther didn't happen.
The Persians would have wrote about that for sure.
The Persians were notorious liars, but it's irrelevant.
The city of it.
No, I'm not here to say, oh, this happened, it didn't happen.
From this perspective of the story.
Did Jacob lie to Isaac?
Did your patriarch lie to steal the the blessing?
Well, no, that's not historical.
Well uh we want to play this game.
Come on.
It's no, it's not historical.
I'm just saying that you call them liars, and I'm and I Jacob, the patriarch was the whole birthright is based on a lie.
No, no, no, no.
Studying uh studying historic documents of like the wars and the different uh uh um different like empires of the per the Persians and the medians and the party, it's extremely difficult for historians to do because they would attribute victories of others to themselves, they would gloss over their losses.
The the history of the of the Persian empires is very difficult to do, not because they're bad, but because at that time the court historians wrote whatever the king wanted them to write.
It's a known thing.
I didn't make this up.
But the the point about about uh about Amalek is you bring it up a lot on your posts, so it deserves to be in your videos, so it deserves to be addressed.
The point of Amalek is that there's going to be some people that you don't negotiate with and that you don't apply rules of war to.
So let's say you have a conflict, right?
And people are fighting you over land.
Geneva Convention applies, you fight them like you fight anyone else.
But if you have people that have no conflict with you, but keep talking about destroying you, keep wanting to wipe you out, you have to understand with these guys you don't show any mercy, and you don't um you don't apply laws of civilized men to them.
And by the way, America should have the same policy.
Like we shouldn't be treating terrorists who target civilians on purpose as a um as as prisoners of war that have rights and that don't get tortured.
I'm sorry.
If you're if you're a military organization designed to attack civilians, then you uh rules of war don't apply to you.
And that's the essence of the Amalek rule.
That's what it always meant.
It's not about wiping out anybody we don't like.
Well, that's what they bel modern day rabbis believe is that you need to eradicate and blot out the memory of Amalek before the Messianic Age can commence.
And that's genocidal.
Well, they claim to know.
Yeah, who is it?
Amalek is the grandson, the descendant of Esau.
So when you say Amalek attacked them for no reason, that's not exactly rabbinical truth.
Uh truth, because you believe Esau is uh pursuing you guys because he's mad about the birthright.
Esau hates Jacob.
You think Gentiles are genetically predisposed to hate you because of this foundational myth, as you call it.
No, no, no, no.
We don't we don't think anyone's genetically predisposed to anything.
Sure, I've got so many clips of rabbis saying that the Gentiles hate the Jews because of Jacob and Esau story.
Adam, we have a 3,000-year history with a law of nature.
And and and you can find literally anything you want in these 3,000 years of history.
And yes, there were times when we had conflict with actual Esau, with actual Amalek, with other nations that we would give them those titles because at that time we generation to generation, it's always, it's never ending.
Yeah, we all we very often had enemies.
We have enemies today.
Don't you think that Judaism causes you to have enemies?
Don't you think Judaism causes you to have enemies?
Instead of thinking, oh, it's the Judaism in the Talmud that's causing problems for us.
You double down, you go, oh, we're gonna be being persecuted because we're not following the Torah enough.
It's a vicious cycle, dangerous, detrimental for Jews.
Okay.
As someone who absolutely loves the Talmud and the Torah, I disagree.
Um I don't spend much time complaining about anti-Semitism either, because I look at it in the historical context as well.
For 3,000 years, if you're gonna maintain your own identity in other people's countries, you're going to run into issues, especially if your behavior isn't perfect either.
And I'm not gonna say the Jews were always perfect either.
So I I'm not one of these guys who's like constantly going on and on about anti-Semitism.
It's not something that um that's well that makes that makes you a minority, I would say.
What do you think about this one?
This is pretty uh denigrating to Gentiles.
Behold, the Goyim are as a drop of a bucket and are counted as the small dust of the balance.
What do you think about that?
We're nothing, we're spittle, we're the shattered vessels.
What?
Why do you why do you translate the name every time you see nations and the case?
Nations means Goyam.
I hear it all the time.
I say, oh Goyam, that's not derogatory, it just means nations.
So I like to uh it it's one of the few uh Yiddish or is it Yiddish or uh Hebrew words that I know, so I like to use it when I can.
Well, go Goyam is Hebrew, but the Yiddish Yiddish is appropriate.
Um yeah, but okay.
This is We're nothing according to your God.
No, this is a beautiful verse.
This is actually a beautiful verse talking about, really is for you greatness of God for anyone, talking about the greatness of God and how all nations are nothing compared to God.
That's what it's saying.
The whole UN, everything, God is so it's it's a it's a it's almost like a worshipful prayer to the one God.
I think it's it's poignant.
That's not how I've seen it explained.
The Torah says like this.
And Goim, you want to be a goi?
Let me explain to you the difference between a Jew to a goi in my eyes, which I am the manufacturer of the Jews and the non-Jews, and I am the only one who can rate people.
Nobody else can do.
Anyone who tried to hate people is a pure racist.
I am the boss, I made everyone.
And I shem rot in a Torah like this.
And Goim Kemal midli, who Keshaq Mosnaim translation, the difference between a Jew to a goi to a non-Jew, and we are talking now, even the most righteous goi, not an idol worshipper, a great gentile person, Right, personality, loving Jew, respecting God, everything fine with him.
But this is a Jew compared to him, according to the book of God.
The Jew is like the water that you bring from the lake in the bucket.
And the Gentile is the few drops that stick to the side of the bucket when you put it down.
This is the comparison of God between the Jew to a non-Jew.
And again, I'm not making it up.
I'm giving you the source.
Isaiah chapter 40, verse 15.
Go and check.
In any language you want, it's the same meaning.
And the second comparison is when you go to the market to buy vegetables, in many countries, in Israel, it's still like this until this moment.
You tell him, give me one kilo of cucumbers, which is about 10 pieces.
So what does he have?
He has a mechanical scale, not electronic.
Some places already have electronic, but he has this old fashioned mechanical scale, and he has a weight that is 1,000 grams.
It's one kilo, 2.2 pound.
He put it on one side, and then he begins to put cucumbers in the other side.
Once the scale is balanced, he put it in a bag, he pay him, and that's the end of it.
Hashem saying, you know what's the difference between you, the Jew to a non-Jew?
You are the weight for me, and he is the one gram that falls over the ears to the side.
Which means if you take the weight that's supposed to be a thousand grams and you put it in a precise electronic scale, very, very, you know, uh precise scale, it's never gonna be a thousand gram.
Night nine hundred and ninety-nine, nine hundred and ninety-seven.
Over the years, the corners are rubbing off.
It's one gram after one year, another gram after two years.
After a few years, it may be 990 grams, but no customer cares about this one or two grams.
What is it?
A little uh another little piece of the cucumber.
Nobody cares.
It's a thousand grams, a thousand grams, nine hundred and ninety-seven, fine, let me go, don't waste my time.
This is what Hashem said.
You are the weight for me.
He is the little piece who fell on the floor that nobody cares.
And you want to be him?
You have the chutzpah to rebel against me like this to be ungrateful to me.
Do you understand the difference between the heaven of a righteous Jew to the heaven of the righteous Gentile?
What kind of Jewish you're reading 15 if you read 14, right?
Um again, it's talking about God uh power over the nations, right?
It's nothing to do with Israel, it's nothing to do with the conflict.
It's this one is really out of context.
There are other verses that are you could be using much stronger.
This is about um uh all nations being a drop of dust before the creator of the entire universe.
Like that even an issue.
So you're saying this nation's includes Israel?
It includes everyone.
Okay, I'll have to fact check that.
I'll have to fact check that.
According to the prophet, according to the prophet, God chose Israel specifically.
Yeah, I'll I'm gonna concede the point.
But it doesn't, it doesn't you realize that Adam, from an objective perspective, this delusional idea that a nation the size that God shows them is open to everyone.
You guys are a lot, no one's stopping you, and no, I'm not gonna complain if tomorrow a group of people say God spoke to them.
It's not my place to I can laugh at them, I can I could study it historically, but this is our ancient civilization.
You're like, oh, how dare you say that God shows you?
I don't know, man.
This is what we've always believed.
It's not our fault that believes.
Is that a good reason to do something?
Is that is that a good reason to do something because you've always believed it?
That's uh the the reason we continue.
Well, the reason I at least continue to do it and raise my kids to do that, is because the Torah civilization, the family values and the uh and their spirituality that it gives me makes it worth it, yeah.
Praying in the morning, uh Talid, living on my successions.
The morning prayer, the morning prayer.
Do you pray in the morning and say thank God for not making me a goy?
That's what the morning prayer is, right?
Yes, I do.
I'm as one of the prayers, one of the thousands, one of the 100 blessings I make.
Why does this offend you?
I also say thank God for not making me a woman.
I say thank God for I'm happy To be Adam, are you not happy to be an American?
Would you not thank God that you're a white American?
I've never Americans don't have do you do you not think that white Americans have a lot of uh achievements to be proud of?
I think you do.
If I was a white American, I swear I would wake up and say, Thank God for making me a white American.
It just shows more to the world than any other group.
It shows how pervasive the anti-Gentile sentiments are.
Here's another one from the Talmud.
Is it anti wait, wait, wait, wait.
Is it anti-Gentile to say I'm proud to be a white American?
No, because Gentiles are white Americans.
Okay, so is that anti-Jewish to say I'm proud to be white American?
If I said if I woke up every morning and said, Thank God that I'm not Jewish, I would say that that was pretty anti-Jewish.
No, but Jews are only one group.
It's like say we're not saying thank God we're not white.
We're saying thank God that we're not a goi, we're not any other nation.
Thank God that you're cho chosen and you're not a beast meant to be a servant.
That's what it means.
That's not part of the prayer.
No, you the prayer is that we're not another nation.
So you're a white guy, right?
Are you not thankful every day for being a white guy for being an American?
Uh no, I really don't think about it that much.
I think if I was born if I was born something else, I would have basically the same amount of pride, because it you're you know, you don't get to choose how you're born, so I don't I don't obsess over it like you guys seem to.
How about this verse?
National pride is universally a good thing, it's not a bad thing.
Okay, you you guys have a little bit more than pride.
Well, when you when you bolster yourself up above all the nations, and now all everybody else is subhuman and beast and meant to serve you, that's a little different than having just pride.
That's not what we do though.
It is.
That's what the that's what all your religious texts say.
Here's another one right now.
This is Carrie Cary Tot 6B.
This is Talmud again, right?
It says Jewish people are derived from you from God, are called Adam, but Gentiles are not called Adam.
Gentiles have uh have inferior souls, according to some uh some Jewish belief.
Why are we not why are you Adam, but we're not?
You believe we're from Samael and Lilith and we're satanic, we're the seed of Cain, we're the darkness, we're the Tohu, we're the Kellypot, the shells, the husks.
Yeah.
Uh uh Adam, Adam.
Uh you're literally Adam, right?
The reason that you're not Adam, okay, Adam, is because from a legal perspective, the Talmud is talking says, like, for example, I mean the word Adam is interchangeable for man, right?
So if you let's say um you you and another man have a conflict, right?
Um another man another man sleeps with your wife, God forbid, right?
What's the law?
Can you be married to her after that?
Do you need to get divorced and so on?
So the Talmud from time to time reminds us when we say men, legally, we're talking about Jews.
Gentiles have different laws.
So say if a Gentile, for example, I don't know why this is the law, but like for from a legal perspective, if a Jewish woman commits adultery, she can't remain with her husband.
But if she committed adultery with a gentile man, that's okay because he's not Adam.
It's just it's it's a legal thing, it's not a um Yeah.
The two-tier system for Jews and Gent non-Jews in town in the Talmud, incredibly problematic.
Yeah.
Gentiles can't be a witness in a court.
You can't you can uh ru remove the ladder if a gentile falls into a hole.
You can you can charge interest to Gentiles, but not to your fellow Jew.
Um if a if a Gentile woman cheats with a man, she gets uh executed, but not the other way around.
All these different rules, it's just like rabbis got together for thousands of years and and came up with a million different ways to explain how they're better than the non-Jews and how they're gonna rule over them in the end times, and all of these these rules about how they're they're better than us.
I'm just repeating myself now, but okay, Adam.
Uh I can address each individual thing on its own.
We're talking in a let's take text that you bring up, I'll address those actual texts.
Otherwise, we're gonna waste our whole okay.
Well, you you responded to the Adam one.
Let me uh Amalek.
Okay, Maimonides and the 613 mitzvahs.
I want to talk to you about this.
Wipe out the descendants of Amalek.
That sounds like blood libel that you guys want to genocide uh a certain people, and this is a mitzvah.
This is the commandment from Maimonides, your great sage.
Yeah.
Blot out the memory of Amalek.
Yeah.
Two things.
First of all, Maimonides, the great sage, doesn't make up commandments.
He just records Talmudic work, and you know this, right?
So this is a recording of the Talmudic law.
And we, yes, there is a thing to wipe out the descendants of Amalek.
But as I've described before, in the Jewish tradition, um, we don't have tabs anymore on ancient bloodlines.
There is no more nation of Amalek to wipe out.
It's sort of like one of these laws that you know you need to uh you know uh bring a certain sacrifice in the you know in the desert, right?
But we're not in the desert okay.
So so hold on.
This this is God's commandments, this is Maimonides' interpretations, and you're telling me there's no descendants.
How can you follow this commandment if there's no descendants of Amalek?
And I've heard the argument that they're spread everywhere.
That just gives you carte blanche to go after everybody.
Anybody you want is Amalek.
And Esau and Amalek are often conflated.
So I'll explain that.
The white wiping out this you have three commandments.
Can you put that back?
Yes, three commandments, right?
Yeah.
Right?
One is to wipe out Amalek.
We didn't wipe them out.
Maybe we did, I don't know.
But that that group, uh genetic group of Amalek doesn't exist, right?
They don't they're not there anymore.
That's your opinion, because I've got clips of other rabbis saying it's Germany, they're spread apart apart, Europe, it's anybody that opposes us.
Yeah.
You're gonna find fundamentalists that will say anybody bad as Amalek, just like in the Muslims, you'll see everybody is bad as Shaitan.
It's it's common, all right.
Just let it go.
Yeah, it's the the in the in three thousand years ago in the Stone Age, there was the commandment to wipe out an enemy tribe.
The enemy tribe doesn't exist.
Stop spurging over it.
Just get over it, right?
Remember that's what I do, man.
I spurg, I spurg over the Jewish supremacy.
I can't help myself.
How about this?
Hesichim 5A, that's Talmud II, to eradicate the descendants of Esau.
You're you're really quick.
Adam, I'm I'm a slow Jew, I'm not a fast Jew.
I know.
Judaism's not known for being concise, as uh Henrik in the chat said.
I'm not no, I'm concise, actually.
I'm dealing with each text separately, right?
Okay, but I'm not as as sharp as you, I'm not so fast.
Let's slow down, right?
Um, there were three commandments.
I'm gonna just review them that you put up earlier, okay?
One was to wipe them out, the other was to remember what they did.
It's important to remember, Adam, for every nation, not just for Jews.
If you ha if people attack you for no reason, if people commit genocide on you, it's important to remember, right?
So that next time they do it, you you know, not to forget their atrocities.
Except if this is just a foundational myth and this never happened, this is a 2,000-year grudge that you have that you're waiting to have vengeance on, and the whole thing is just made up in your head in your fables.
So, okay, so it's not up to you to decide if a thing happened or not, because you weren't there, right?
Neither is it up to us, uh the truth is.
I can't prove it happened, neither can you prove that it didn't happen, all right?
What we have are foundational myths that are important to our people, right?
We we we read them and we're like, we remember there's going to we're gonna have conflicts that make sense, and we're gonna have conflicts that don't make sense.
When we have a conflict that um you have people in another continent talking about wiping out the Jews and getting nuclear weapons, so the the verse, yeah, it's telling you listen, remember what Amalek did to you, all right?
This is not everything makes sense, not every uh um interaction you have with your enemies is is rational.
I'm gonna remember, I'm gonna remember what Jacob did to me.
How about that?
But that wasn't you.
You're not you keep associating yourself with a sub.
Like no, that's the rabbis have associated.
No, I would not like to be.
I wouldn't want to be Jacob either.
I think the whole thing is twisted.
How about this?
I'm like I'm not sure.
Well, you you did just ask me that though.
You asked if I wanted to be.
Okay, you know how I'm sure you know that there's this belief that in the end times you have to rebuild the temple And eradicate the seed of Amalek and then Moshiach will come.
How come this Talmud quote here says that you're gonna eradicate the descendants as in nations, as in actual people, you're gonna eradicate people of Esau and rabbis everywhere are saying Esau is America, Esau is Christianity, it's the West, it's all Gentiles.
You guys want to eradicate all the non-Jews in the end times?
That's that's what this is saying here.
Is that what is that what you think we want to do, Adam?
Do you think that all the rabbis are planning?
I think that's what your religion that you love says.
We're all getting together.
Not George Soros, I didn't say George Soros.
So who who so who's trying to wipe out America in your mind?
Netanyahu, Chabad Lubavitch.
Bethanyel wants to wipe out America.
That's what he wants.
He won he wants to use them up as much as he can, but he okay.
How this is perfect that you're saying this because it's like it is your literal religion that Esau or uh it Esau and Jacob will be two nations, and they will be diametrically opposed.
When one nation rises, the other necessarily falls, and the one people shall be stronger than the other, dealing with the verse dealing with this is Talmud Megala.
So, in order for Israel to achieve their messianic ambitions, Esau, the West needs to be destroyed.
I want to address that.
Everything you're saying in the last since we finished with Amalek is predicated on identifying Esau with America, and your proof of that is all these internet rabbis are saying it.
All right, and the text better than me.
You know better than me that there are thousands of internet rabbis with thousands of opinions.
You're choosing the ones that are most inflammatory and saying that that's what Bibi Netanyahu believes.
That's not what I'm doing.
That's that's not what I'm doing.
I know.
He's it's not it is nothing, he's not one of these primitive.
No, this this isn't that's not what happened, though.
I read what the Talmud says, and then I see rabbis explaining it.
That's all it is, to prove that they still believe it, and then they elaborate and they give their own, you know, more specific details.
That would be like me challenging the Pope based on what some crazy evangelical snake handling uh pastoral in Middle America I don't believe anything a rabbi says unless I can verify where he got it from, and I can judge with my own eyes if America is Esau.
So where's the okay?
You're saying America.
Okay, I'll explain to that America's Esau.
Because it they say Esau in the Talmud is associated with Rome, Rome became Christian, Rome conquered the world, spread Christianity across all the European countries and America.
So the West, the Christian West is Esau.
That's that's the rabbinical interpretation.
Okay.
No, that's you that that's uh your interpretation.
No, the rabbi that'll say that, but that's not the an official Rome and Jerusalem, megalithic A, Caesaria.
So Rome, Rome and Jerusalem are diametric opposites.
No, no, no, no.
Caesarea, bro.
Okay, okay, you keep bringing up my favorite Talmud quotes, and then you're messing it up.
I have to defend them.
Now, do you realize Caesarea is a city in the north of Israel?
It's a beautiful city with Roman Coliseums.
Jerusalem and Caesarea had this endless rivalry.
Jerusalem was like we're Hebrew, we're like one-story dome houses, we're we're like Hebrew warriors, we use our own oil and our own wine, and we have bring this Talmud says that Caesarea is Rome.
Wait, I'm I want to finish something.
Well, but I'm I'm trying to confirm what you said.
You said that Caesarea is a area in northern Israel.
This right here says it's Rome.
Yeah.
No, it represents Rome.
Oh, okay.
Province in northern Israel where all these Jews wore togas, shaved their beards with uh razors, which is against biblical law.
They they didn't circumcise their children.
They were trying to assimilate to Rome, and they wanted Israel's future to be like a Roman province.
And Jerusalem with these rebels, they were like, no, no, no, we want Israel's future to be Judean, you know, and this conflict.
They're saying if Caesarea is beautiful, Jerusalem is in ruins.
And if Jerusalem is it's like it's like even today, Jerusalem and Tel Aviv have that um rivalry, right?
Tel Aviv, people who like Tel Aviv, hey Jerusalem, and vice versa.
Tel Aviv has gays, Tel Aviv is very cosmopolitan, Telivia is very diverse.
It's very Western American.
It looks like a white, it looks like city or London.
Jerusalem is more particular.
You got nuns everywhere.
You got you Shivot everywhere.
You have religious people.
Even the actual, what do you call it, architecture in Jerusalem is different.
And Caesarea in Rome uh is representing Rome.
That's the idea.
In other words, we don't want to be Rome.
Israel too.
There's a movement in Israel to be more Western, and there's a movement in Israel to be more Hebrew.
Well, it just doesn't say that you don't want to be like them.
It says the two cities, i.e.
Jerusalem and Rome cannot exist.
Uh what happened to the coexist sticker with the Star of David?
Today there's an actual city uh in Jerusalem called Caesarea today.
It's been Caesarea.
Okay, well, everywhere I've seen this interpreted, it always says Rome and Jerusalem.
And then this rabbi says top this is the top rabbi in Israel, m one of Israel's most respected rabbis, hold on, has released a statement.
He's in the chief re Rabbinite Council.
You cut out a bit there.
Bring it up.
He says, Top rabbi, America is collapsing.
Israel must step up as a new world superpower.
He says, Status of America as a waning world superpower and a message of hope for Israel to fill the void.
Oh, all according to prophecy.
Isn't that wonderful?
Are you are you scared that a rabbi in Safat, a few thousand followers, thinks that Israel is gonna be a superpower?
Is this bother you?
The the the foundational myths of the religion are what are problematic.
Yeah.
Okay, I I'm sorry, Adam.
You're like my Jewish friends that are obsessed over what Muslim clerics say.
Uh I I find I Oh, don't worry about it, goi.
It's no big deal.
Don't don't worry that we want to enslave you and call you subhuman in in darkness.
That that's what you're going with.
I'm going with you're always going to have fundamentalists.
You're always gonna have people who who interpret ancient text literally, and it's not nice, I agree with you.
But I don't think it's nearly the threat you make it out to be.
Well, I I see the threat unfolding every day, getting worse and worse.
Look at this.
This is Barakat 58A again from the Talmud.
It basically says, Oh, aren't Gentiles called donkeys?
And then this Persian goes to tell the authorities, so the rabbi says you have the legal status of a pursuer, so by spreading what the Jews believe about the Gentiles, that is gonna get them killed, so they're trying to kill them, and you can rise and kill first.
Do you see how that's a twisted game because you believe that Esau is always trying to kill Jacob because of the birthright thing?
Okay, so some guys are talking about some guys, this is the Talmud.
This is the holy Talmud.
I'm saying yeah, yeah, there's not uh the Tal Talmud is a legal text, as I explained, and it's recording conversations.
This is a conversation that took place, right?
And this could this conversation triggers you because somebody claims to have killed a um somebody claims to have killed a uh someone who they perceive as a traitor who's gonna get them killed by Gentiles for you know stitching on them and whatnot.
That's that this this what is this supposed to mean?
You know, like you know what's disturbing?
Like it's disturbing that we're censored.
I'm so heavily censored and so taboo to talk about all these things.
Uh it's it's not censoring you.
I don't uh Adam, can I Adam, can I well?
I know you're not, but that the ADL does.
Earlier you mentioned, like, oh, you could have pride to be an American, you can have pride to be white or whatever.
Actually, the ADL will put you on a list that you're a white supremacist as they defend I'm a racist too.
Um as a right wing Zionist, like they think I'm uh I'm um I'm no good either.
Like they defend you though from attacks.
My channel got my channel got um got got struck down, you know.
All nationalists right now are in trouble, not just not just white or European nationalists, Jewish nationalists are also censored.
Yeah, Zionism's in real big trouble.
That's why there's a campaign worldwide to to uh that Zionism is anti-Semitism.
Put it this way.
People have I don't even know what what Zionism really is anymore.
It's Judaism.
It's the fulfillment of Judaism.
Yeah, we I agree.
Design is a fulfillment of Judaism.
But that being said, uh people who aren't Jewish nationalists like myself, pride in being Jewish and want to keep our land and want militant towards uh uh uh towards uh military threats, um uh ethno-nationalists, we're we're also constantly being censored.
Sorry, okay.
Let's uh we'll wrap it up in another 10 minutes or so if you can still keep going.
This is Habad.org.
When it is permissible to be less than honest, it says one is allowed to be deceptive in order to recoup losses that are owed to him.
Hey, you guys got your temple destroyer, right?
Does that mean you're allowed to lie to Esau in order to get your temple back?
That's a very general question.
What do you mean?
Uh I thought it was pretty specific.
I'm not sure.
I I don't I can't I can speak to this.
I'm not gonna defend something.
I don't know.
I don't know where this is from.
I don't know the source.
Okay, how about this?
You mentioned, oh, there's certain laws you can uh, you know, amalek you have to eradicate, but other places you can just you know conquer them, kill the men, the men and uh women and keep the young virgins for yourselves.
What about the idea that you can well that's what that's what the old testament says?
I know I added that part in because that's what it says.
Common practice of the Old Testament.
That's like attacking Julius Caesar for killing all the Gauls when he won, like, Yeah, he's Julius Caesar, it was Rome.
That's what people did at the time.
So yeah, but Julius Caesar, Julius Caesar is is a man.
You guys are are saying that you are divine.
This is the divine word of God.
We're not we're not saying we're divine.
You don't think you have a holy spark?
What?
You don't think that you you're God's children and you have the holy spark?
You don't think that makes you divine?
No.
I don't think I don't know what's a holy spark.
What's the holy spark?
That's it's Kabbalah.
Uh I'm not a capitalist.
Okay.
I don't think that we're superior.
I think we have a story, and you're entitled to your own story.
And we have pride, and you're entitled, and I encourage everyone to have pride.
Um are you allowed to lie to to the credit card company who falsely uh reported you for not making a payment on time in order to get them to take off bad, you know, to take off your bad score in your credit card.
I don't know if I'm a rabbi and someone uh asked me that kind of question, it's a serious dilemma, right?
Are you allowed to lie to the credit bureau to get you credit back up when you weren't supposed to be reported?
That's the kind of thing that you're showing me.
I don't know, it's complicated.
It depends on this on the uh uh it really does depend on the circumstances, but um overall, I mean never mind, I'm not gonna lecture you.
Let's go move on to the next question.
Okay.
Uh how about this one?
Is this Talmud here?
Rabbi New Baha Valkyrie.
No, Rabenu Bahia is a medieval uh is a medieval commentary.
Okay.
He's not a Talmudic, it's post-Telmudic.
Right.
But uh one of the medieval commentaries, one of the thousands of medieval commentaries.
Well, well, this this is a pretty common belief that the the relative of Satan, Samael, Azazel is Esau and the nation that descended from it.
So so all Gentiles are the seed of Satan.
Why is that all Gentile?
Esau, I I've I've got several examples to show that Esau is often uh represents just all Gentiles.
Sometimes it's Christian, sometimes it's all Gentiles.
I'll agree with you.
I'll agree with you that throughout the generation when Jews have been under pressure, they've tended to uh colloquially poetically apply oh this guy's Esau, these guys Amalek.
You know, if I'm in Yeshiva, right?
And I'm not studying or I'm fooling around or I'm playing video games, right?
The rabbi can also say, what are you?
Esau stop playing Mortal Kombat.
Get back to the prayers, right?
This is Esau.
What do you like?
It's it's a it's a kind of like uh impulsive animalistic.
My point is that it doesn't mean it's all Gentiles.
I think that's a leap.
And yes, you're gonna find in times of conflict, people apply it to the Gentiles they're fighting with, but it doesn't apply to Gentiles, we're not in a conflict with.
Like if you're my neighbor and we get along, you think I'm gonna call you Esau?
I'm gonna call you Esau if you blasting loud music at night that I'm trying to put my kids to sleep.
I'll tell you Esau, shut up.
Like, but it's not gonna be it's not it's not an actual legal designation now.
Well, regardless of what you believe, there's tons of rabbis online, and I've read in many places that Esau represents the Gentiles.
Gersham Sholem in his book, the top uh top uh scholar in in Jerusalem, or uh yeah, he he says Esau represents Gentiles.
And and here it says that you want to eradicate the descendants of Esau.
Like I don't see how you don't see how problematic that is.
What does it say that we want to eradicate that?
To eradicate you are entitled to three matters to eradicate the descendants of Esau to the construction of the temple and to name the Messiah, the three things you need to do in the end times.
It usually is Amalek.
You have to eradicate Amalek.
This just shows how Esau and Amalek are conflated and will ultimately have the same end, which is no inheritance or portion in the world to come.
Adam, let's let's let's dive a little deeper, right?
I'm not just your regular uh guest, like some Jewish guy who went to the show.
I'm not your regular goe.
Um so let's let's go through let's pretend we're in Talmud class right now.
Let's see what it's actually saying, okay.
Um we're gonna read the English translation because you don't speak Aramaic.
Uh the Gemark explains that those three times the word Rishon is mentioned with regard to the festivals are necessary for what which the school of Ishmael put us the word Rishon is stated with regard to the festivals.
Uh-oh, is that incoming rockets?
This is not rockets, but it's like it's uh it's Holocaust Remembrance Day, and that we stand for a minute.
Oh my gosh.
For that.
You guys do this every day?
Every year, once a year.
Oh wow.
Amazing.
Oh my gosh.
Wow.
But it's the same, it's similar to the rocket.
I'm within rocket range, so we get this sometimes too.
Wow.
Look, what it look, you're having a real experience.
You're studying Talmud, you're standing for Holocaust Remembrance Day.
This is pretty good.
I I have a question about uh the Holocaust, so let me go find that's a two-minute siren, I've seen.
Oh man.
Okay, I'll have to play a clip here while you're going.
you you Thank you.
Oh my gosh.
It it's such an annoying siren noise.
Sirens to remember.
Okay, how can I silence?
Can you mute your thing?
Maybe I can mute you.
There you go.
He got it muted now.
Let's watch this.
This is Noah Hyde Laws.
Righteous Gentiles have a place in heaven, yes or no?
Yes.
So they have a place in heaven, right?
And is there a difference of someone who's who's Christian or Muslim, or does it matter what kind of Gentile they are?
No.
They're doing what they're what they're supposed to do in the role of like uh helping me to fix the world.
Serving the Jews.
Standing.
The Jewish nation has an important part in doing that.
Standing.
See, that's that's the the kicker on the Noah Hyde laws.
You have to understand that the Jewish nation has a special destiny and a mission that you have to help them with.
The nation of priests, you have to acknowledge them and love them and be devoted servants.
Alright.
You're gonna get in trouble for that one.
Okay, here's the Talmud question now, okay?
I I I couldn't let you go without covering this.
Sanhedrin 97b.
This is uh Christopher John Bjorkness also often uh references this verse here.
It says, Rather, the holy one, blessed be, he will establish a king for them whose decrees are as harsh as those issued by Haman, and the Jewish people will have no choice but to repent, and this will restore them To the right path.
Would you say that this is a prophecy that was fulfilled with Hitler and the Holocaust?
Um I don't think it's a prophecy per se.
Can you can you go up to the Hebrew for a minute?
Uh this is a screenshot, so I'm not able to scroll.
Okay, um I'm I'm trying to picture this this text in my mind.
Give me a moment.
Yeah, there's an opinion.
Uh yeah.
So do I think so?
Look, there's two con like opposing forces in like Jewish thought about this kind of thing.
Jews and Gentiles, the light in the dark?
No.
But between Jews and like no, among Jews, like there are Jews that think.
I'll give you an example, right?
Um when Napoleon uh conquered, started conquering Russia, right?
Many Jews were on the side of Napoleon because they said it's good that Napoleon wins because he's emancipating the Jews, he's giving us rights, we couldn't go to St. Petersburg, we can't go to Moscow, we could they couldn't have professions, they couldn't be in universities, they were being oppressed, and uh racially and religiously.
And Napoleon felt the Jews should be integrated into their countries.
There was a movement of Jews that said that's great, and there were Jews that were anti-Napoleon because they felt if Napoleon is going to be that good to us and we're gonna integrate, we're gonna become like the Gentiles, we're gonna lose our identity and we'll assimilate, right?
Like happened in like was happening in Germany, right?
Like that was happening in Germany.
Jews assimilated.
Yeah, many Jews assimilated, many Jews may retain their their identity.
So what they're saying is that in the end times, either either Jews are gonna return to Israel on their own, or some group of Gentiles is gonna remind them that you think you're German, you may have fought in World War One and lost an arm fighting for the fatherland, and you thought you were German and you thought everything is great, and this exile is okay, but someone else is gonna remind you that you really don't belong in Germany.
You're gonna have to go back to Israel, and that's basically what happened, you know.
And to Shuvah, atonement, burnt offering, sacrifices are also tied in with that, which is what Holocaust means, right?
You do you find that a little coincidental?
I think that the I don't think we're supposed to be burned.
The burnt sacrifices is that you might have sheep, you bring some of them to the top.
Refined, refined through the fire.
That's uh allegorical.
Yeah, you're fine through fire.
When you suffer, you your identity gets crystallized.
Yeah.
Okay, last topic now.
Maimonides.
Islam good, Christianity bad, Muslims good.
Uh, you know, seven Noahide laws, Christianity is idol worship.
Would you agree with that?
Christian is Christianity's idol worship.
I think that almost all um I think almost all uh Christian um denominations are idol worship, and I'll explain to you why.
It's not personal.
I I don't need to I don't need to hear why.
All I hear I don't need to hear why, I just just the fact that you believe they are idol worship, and what happens to idol worshippers in your religion?
Uh as long as they're not in our land, they could have to follow the seven laws of Noah, right?
If they're in our land, but if they're not in our land, it's fine.
They do their own thing.
God doesn't want to uh you to knock down all of the altars in the idolatrous nations.
In our land.
No, in only in our land.
In other words, we can't have idolatry in our land.
They can't be prosely they can't we can't have like like Jewish church in Israel, right?
You can have then why are they pushing Noah Hide laws worldwide then, not just in Israel?
I'm against that.
I'm against you maybe, but why are they doing it?
Because they believe that it's universally binding and they're wrong.
Just like many Christian sects believe that everybody has to convert to Christianity and they're wrong.
But I don't have to agree.
I don't have to agree with everything that every Orthodox sect does.
I can explain their position.
I don't think it's as bad as you say it is, but I don't I disagree with them.
I don't think they're binding on everyone.
So Maimon purpose of the Noah laws.
Maimonides says that Christianity is idol worship and that the punishment is decapitation.
The Talmud said the Talmud says that anybody that blurs the line between creator and creation is it technically an idol worshiper.
Muslims say a la, there's one God and nothing else.
Christians say there's a trinity, Christians say God had a son.
So it's not personal, it's not that we don't like the Christians, but from a like a philosophical perspective, that line between creator and creation is being blurred.
We're against that.
That's all.
The Rebbe here says to Ariel Sharon, the Torah tells us that idol worship means anything foreign to the Jewish people, and then it also says to kill idol worshippers.
Okay, I I'm not pro the Rebbe.
But that being said, he said plenty of things which sounded like that, and he said things that were contradictory.
My issue with him is not – like, I have issues with him.
It's hard for me to defend somebody to disagree with.
But um I I feel like like Chabad is similar to Christianity in many ways, because they also sort of blur the line between uh between creator and creation, and whatever attacks we have on Christianity, you can apply to Chabad, and they would and they would uh oftentimes apply.
So uh I I mean I I can't do this.
Okay, so so here's the here's the final question.
Maimonides views the two major religions, Christianity and Islam, as quote, necessary preparations for the coming of the Messiah and the universal worship of God that will follow.
He says the world has become full of the ideas of the Messiah, the ideas of Torah and the commandments, they have spread faraway islands to many dim-hearted nations who now discuss these ideas and the commandments of Torah.
Do you think that Christianity has ultimately uh in in hindsight, after the thou the thousands of years of uh of uh prophesied persecution which kept you separate and made you uh atone for idol worship or whatever?
Do you think Christianity is ultimately benefiting Israel and Jews now?
I think ultimately Christianity has benefited the planet.
Yes.
I think it's been a positive uh in hindsight and positive, has been a positive force and the development of humanity has been adaptive, okay?
Among other things, has it been good for the Jews?
Yes, I think that British Christianity is a big part of Zionism.
Balfour Declaration, yeah.
Yeah, it helped us come back.
So yeah, it's been good for the Jews, good for humanity, good for the world.
Yes, I'm I'm not anti-Christian anymore.
Uh we shouldn't be anti-Christian anymore the way we used to be.
It's not the same conflict.
Well, Christian Zionists support Israel so much.
The Catholic Church supports Israel so much.
I think I was I was looking for the Catholic church, not not as much, but yeah.
I I could get into minim and epic chorsum, but I think we're we're about out out of time.
We want to keep this under I I have to get to work eventually today, but this has been a lot of fun.
If you want to do a follow-up at some point, um I'll I'll I'll available.
Um you could bring others on as well, you know, who think that everything I say is wrong.
You know?
Let me ask you this.
Is this uh what is this?
Is this Talmud Perki Avat five?
Mishnayomit is Mishnah.
It's it's it is Talmud Tonudic.
It is basically it's pre-Telmudic.
It says that the Jews will inherit the world to come, but the disciples of Balaam, which means Christians, right?
Balaam is compared is uh a euphemism for Jesus.
Often interchange for Christians, yeah.
Shall not live out half their days.
Yeah.
We had a will Gentiles inherit the world to come, or is it only for Jacob and the chosen ones?
So uh okay, so a couple of things.
The the the Christian Jewish um uh conflict or or or uh argument uh disputations at the time are at its peak.
Christianity was a sect that was of Judaism that was uh threatening to to replace us.
They were very angry at the Christians.
No one knows about the world to come, even the rabbis say whatever we said about the world to come, we don't really know.
Well, you guys don't really know any of this stuff.
You just have elaborate religious drama uh unfolding stories, you believe every l all these details with such certainty, you know it's all made up, but you guys it take it very very seriously.
That's not what we're talking about, though.
That's not what we're talking about.
We're talking here about this particular Mishnah, and this particular Mishnah is saying that Christians don't have the world to come because we're having a uh a but and it's it's also extremely ironic.
You can appreciate the irony of it because we never discussed the world to come in the Torah.
The Torah doesn't talk about it.
The Tanakh of 24 books of of the Bible, not one word about the world to come.
The New Testament is full of Jesus promising the world to come to everyone who leaves the Torah and believes in him.
So the rabbis are playing this game where they're like, oh, everybody has a portion of the world to come, besides for Christians who obsess about the world to come.
It's actually only Jews.
It's not just the Christians.
Here it is.
Esau, no partner with Jacob in the world to come.
Let it be for you alone and not for strangers, i.e.
Gentiles, along with you.
This is midrash.
You're missing the really like sweet irony here.
The Hebrew Bible has not one word about the world to come, right?
Nothing.
The Christians are the first Jewish sect to canonize the world to come.
Jesus talks about heaven and hell extensively.
Come the rabbis after Jesus, and they flip that and say if you're gonna be Christians, you lose your world to come.
This world to come that we've always been silent about.
We don't talk about.
Now we're gonna talk about it.
We're gonna say it's only for those who are loyal to the Torah.
It's it it's it's uh it's an ironic way of fighting back uh against your theological opponent using the tools that they use that they employ.
But this says Esau is no partner, so Gentiles or Christians no partner with Jacob in the world to come.
Yeah, but again, the world to come is no one knows what that is.
It's it's basically made up.
The seventh millennium.
Just like on the on the Sabbath, you guys aren't supposed to work.
That's that's for you to remember that in the Sabbath millennium, you won't have to work and the Gentiles will be your slaves.
No, it's because God rested on the seventh day.
That too, that too.
That too, yeah.
You're you you're interposing certain mystical um you're interposing certain mystical uh uh uh interpretations, which are interesting, but they're far from being mainstream.
You think they're mainstream because you find many videos on YouTube.
I find many videos on YouTube in America like about all sorts of things that are not mainstream, and uh I you you know, I'm gonna say that that flat earth is mainstream or and mainstream, it's not mainstream.
But but I'm showing you the Talmud verses though, in the in the Torah.
Okay, what do you given what so many Jews think about Christianity is Jews think Christianity is idol worship, they hate Jesus.
Um what do you think of Judeo-Christian values that we always hear so much about?
I so actually uh uh on 2021, I think that enough water has crossed under the bridge, and both groups have had their differences, and we've reached a stage where we can we can agree on certain things.
And I think that both Jews and Christians are threatened by globalism, we're threatened by atheism, we're threatened by this LGBTQ movement.
We have we have certain things that are caught that we're both threatened by, and I think that would be it would behoove us to to unite on these issues, you know.
Like i i if tomorrow it's gonna be uh uh legally binding for every school to have you know trans sensitivity training, which is basically grooming our kids to be castrated.
I don't think it makes a difference if you think Jesus was the Messiah or not.
I think Jews, Muslims, and Christians realize need to realize that we're all under threat.
That's what I think.
So yeah, I I think Judeo-Christian values are a thing.
Well, I I think we're under threat.
I'm surprised by the answer, but I think we're all under threat from the Judeo-Christian temple cult.
But I think my internet's about to cut cut out.
It's on a timer.
Judas Maccabeas, I really appreciate you coming on to have this discussion.
Uh I hoped for a little bit more concessions.
I think you're a little blinded by your your bias being uh born and raised into this faith.
I I appreciate you uh attempt uh showing up here.
I admire you and respect coming up to to try to engage some of this stuff.
That is uh is a rare thing.
So um uh any last plugs if people were you people can follow you or find you or or final parting words.
Okay, first of all, I'll thank you for getting me on.
I actually since 2018 I fantasized about coming on here.
Thanks, David, for making the introduction.
Um it was fun talking to you.
You you definitely have a lot of knowledge, you've done a lot of research.
Um I don't um uh all I can say is maybe we'll do a follow-up where you will prepare the worst Talmudic texts, and we can go through them And see what they meant as well as uh Kabbalistic texts.
Um, and may the blessings of Jacob be upon you and your family, Adam.
Wow.
Wow.
Blasphemy.
You you're that is the most uncostered thing I've ever heard.
All right.
Never forget what Jacob did to you.
All right, man.
Amalek rising.
Take care, Judas Maccabeas.
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