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	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
	Adam Green here with No More News.org.
	Today is Monday, January 27th, 2020.
	And I have joining me the one and only Duvid.
	He's on Twitter at Reb Duvid with four O's, and he's got a YouTube channel.
	Links are all in the description below.
	He's been on before, and we just did a stream on somebody else's channel a few days ago.
	But uh we got him back on now.
	Thanks for being here, Duven.
	Thanks for having me back.
	Appreciate it.
	I've been uh watching your show recently, uh enjoying your content.
	Although uh you know obviously I take a more pro-Kabad perspective, but uh you really put together some uh good research and information.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	Yeah, uh I wanted to start just by thanking you uh for coming back on.
	I had you on a few months ago with Christopher John Björkness.
	We kind of uh double-teamed you and uh put you through the ringer, and uh I wanted to give you the opportunity to uh ask some some questions back uh that this time, and uh I really gotta say, you know, it's uh I admire you coming on, and I'm a little confused because you're kind of in a precarious situation because you know it's it's uh look down upon in your community to uh speak with the Gentiles and to tell the kind of tell the truth about uh all of Chabad's
	beliefs and what's in the Talmud all that.
	And then uh if you but if you come on here and like offuscate and you're not honest, people are gonna give you a really hard time.
	So uh you want to help uh enlighten us on uh why you come on and do these streams.
	Yeah, I enjoy talking about these subjects and uh you know, so I I would agree with you on a on uh your respect of institutional Judaism in America, maybe Israel worldwide, takes a certain approach and strategy that uh you know doesn't necessarily match uh your typical Jews uh strategy for how they would approach uh interrelationships with uh you know the other nations or neighbors or you various peoples.
	Uh so you know, I'm I guess I'm alternative media, you know.
	I saw that there was a lack in this, and uh you know there's some pushback.
	Um, but I don't know if it's uh you know that that uh you know I mean I'm there's tons of Jews on YouTube that are saying their own things that are different than uh what the mainstream institutions are putting forward.
	Not quite like you though.
	You're definitely unique and you found yourself a bit of uh a niche, so uh I really appreciate it.
	Because my biography and uh maybe because my biographies and uh you know how I chose to spend my adult life are rather unique.
	Yeah, well, I I just really appreciate you coming on, and I want everybody in the chat and in the comments after this is posted to be respectful and uh and uh what what do you mention your biography?
	Um you're I believe you're you said you're half Jewish, right?
	Is that kind of what you mean by that?
	Yeah, my my mother's basically you know, 23 and me, 99.4% uh Ashkenazic Jewish.
	My father's uh American Gentile, mixed blooded of uh various scores sorts, uh Scottish, uh some Cherokee, and uh I grew up Metro Detroit semi-secular reform,
	and then after high school, I went to Israel and became Hasidic and went to uh ultra-orthodox uh schools and lived in uh Hasidic communities for about ten years and still maintain um your relatively Hasidic lifestyle.
	So that's not so uncommon that you know there's probably even tens of thousands of people like me who you Americans out of Rome free volition, uh, joined the Hasidic movement.
	So uh do you get ostracized at all in the Hasidic community for not being f uh having both parents uh be full Jewish?
	Well ostracized, but uh you know there might be uh expectations or you even you know clear social delineations where um there might be you know sort of say boundaries of association, but I mean generally people are friendly, uh, but there might be barriers that would keep them from so to say taking you into their inner circles.
	So they won't let you in the inner inner circles.
	Have you ever got any uh blowback from the Chabad community for like coming on my show or doing these streams?
	Uh no, actually surprisingly not.
	Chabad is generally pro-publicity, and uh you know, as long as I'm talking about the Rebbe and doing my best to, you know, so to say defend the Jewish people, you'll probably my you know, Chabad's gonna be happy, and you would figure, you know, like one day you'll eventually get to them or something like that.
	But anyone who follows me on YouTube knows that I work directly with Khabbad.
	You know, like I support their events, uh I I uh put a lot of their events straight onto my YouTube page.
	You just attended an ADL event as well, and I saw a photo on your channel or on your Twitter with uh Abe Foxman from the ADL.
	Yeah, I mean, so if you're within the Jewish community, especially the organized Jewish community, that's not rare.
	Like any of these people that are heads of national um groups, you make their rounds and they speak at uh you know the JCCs, the Jewish community centers, and usually those events are open to the public, not just the Jews, like even non-Jews are you know open and free to attend those events.
	So, you know, just like President Trump and saying, like, did he know Leif Parnase or not?
	Uh, but it means but it's very easy to meet uh, you know, one of these heads of Jewish organizations because like that's all they do is travel around and meet people.
	Interesting.
	Well, we're gonna let's get into uh some of the topics.
	We're gonna cover a whole uh a whole bunch of controversial issues here today.
	And if the ADL even dares to take this down for hate speech or anti-Semitism, you and I are gonna report them for anti-Semitism for censoring you, okay, David.
	We're gonna talk about the the peace plan being released.
	We're gonna talk about ADL in Congress and Trump's anti-Semitism executive order.
	We're gonna talk, of course, about the Showa today.
	There's I saw the Twitter is just full of uh Holocaust memorial stuff.
	I want to ask you a bit about Chabad and Russia, uh supremacy, different types of Zionism, and uh and a few other issues.
	And uh any one of these topics, I'm sure you and I could do a talk for like you know, three or four hours each, and I got a bunch of clips, so we'll try to uh be uh brief, succinct, and and get through all of this stuff.
	Sound good.
	Yeah, yeah, and anyone following the news, like you know, it's gonna be a big week and uh you know who knows what's gonna happen.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, I just saw somebody in the chat saying, Oh, why are why are you so obsessed with Jews?
	It's like, look at uh all it's in the news every day.
	This topic is like be at the forefront of politics and and the world world uh geopolitical issues right now, this peace plan and everything.
	Which is what I want to start with, the the peace plan.
	So a couple uh you can see my screen right, David.
	Uh yeah.
	So a couple headlines, uh Gance and Netanyahu are visiting Trump.
	And Mike Evans, the Christian Zionist says Trump plan is proof.
	Israel kissed by God.
	That's the Friends of Zion Museum, Mike Evans, the the Jordanian King expresses reservations over the Trump peace plan.
	Uh Nikki Haley defends the timing of Trump peace plan rollout and hints toward a possible 2024 run.
	And Nikki Haley says the number one priority of the deal of the century is Israel's security.
	Uh you you messaged me the other day about the timing of the rollout.
	What what do you think about I thought that they were gonna wait till Netanyahu uh secured his uh his power over there and until uh Trump got re-elected because we're so close to the election.
	Why do you think they're rolling it out now?
	Okay, the Israel-American relationship, they can't uh risk that over Netanyahu securing uh elections.
	They have to ensure that there's gonna be positive relationships in the you know diplomatic relationships, regardless of uh who wins the election in Israel, and regardless of who wins the election in America.
	So, you know, the greater diplomacy is probably doing a few things, consolidating the fact that Trump you know is likely just to give Israel everything that it wants and not care too much about the Palestinian or in terms of international pushback,
	and uh, you know, so figures take advantage of that now and get uh the Trump administration to do everything within reason that Israel you know wants done and uh if Netanyahu loses the election um and Trump wins the election,
	you know, so they need to secure that Trump will continue working with uh you know the next uh Israeli leader and uh you know, if a Democrat uh uh defeats Trump, so you know, from the pure Zionist perspective, uh they can't uh you know, hinge bet.
	You could have extremist elements that like really want to build the temple and you say it's all or nothing.
	I'm willing to risk uh, you know, God forbid the diminishment of the relationship of America and Israel for the chance that maybe you know some sort of Trump Netanyahu coalition could uh rebuild the temple.
	So you you do see I I've been predicting that in Trump's next term that they are gonna start talking about rebuilding the temple.
	That's gonna be the next step after this peace deal is uh rolled out, and they wanna basically push it through just in case Trump loses or in case Netanyahu gets indicted or whatever happens over there.
	And uh it seems like Gance is upset that they're doing it before the elections because he says this is gonna help Netanyahu, which is no surprise, this deal is gonna look great for Netanyahu.
	And what do you think of this?
	Like Nikki Haley says that uh where was it?
	One more.
	Nikki Haley, the number one priority of the deal of a century is Israel's security.
	This just like reeks to me like Israel's security and Israel lives matter more than Palestinian lives or Palestinian security.
	D do you do you see that too?
	Uh well, I mean, God forbid, yes.
	And you know if you're just like, okay, Duvid's a chess player and you want to look at perspective uh of motivation, what the different sides want and uh you know what they could do in the various situations, um yeah,
	there's a lot of people in the Trump administration um that you really just don't care about the Palestinian perspective, and God forbid there's a lot of people in the Jewish community uh that really just don't care about the Palestinian perspective, and uh you know there's diversity among uh among Jews, among Israelis, uh, but but I think you know the from the issue here with bringing Gantz in is greater Zionism needs to secure all of the gains that Trump gives Israel.
	So even though you know, like Gants may not want uh you know he doesn't want Netanyahu to win and be prime minister, but he has to say if Netanyahu could get Trump to do a whole bunch of things that are gonna favor Israel, um, Gantz for the greater benefit of Israel, like should play along, and they need to make sure that even if Trump and Netanyahu both lose, that everything that Trump gives Israel, you know, so to say, should be maintained into the next uh um administrations.
	Interesting.
	So um most likely the the Palestinians have basically refused to negotiate because they know this is gonna be a screw deal.
	Trump's already given them the goal on talked about annexing the West Bank, uh the embassy in Jerusalem.
	So this is likely gonna be dead on arrival, and the the Jews are gonna say, oh, the Palestinians they don't want to negotiate, they don't want peace just like they've done, you know, 1967 all throughout the years.
	But don't you think it's kind of unfair that the the Jews all immigrated there and it's like they come in and say, okay, we're gonna split your house with you.
	Like do you if you were a Palestinian, would you want to be making these deals with Israel?
	Well, probably not.
	Like obviously there's you know, greater morals and ethics from a Jewish perspective.
	You're saying that what we're doing to the Palestinian perspective is wrong, even from a believing Jewish perspective.
	You're saying it's that uh that's you know, so to say our karma, that's God punishing us for our sins, or you know, some greater um international law or whatever, you know, just morals or ethics, but it's just in the terms of politics, uh,
	you know, to some extent that doesn't apply politics is about winning politics is about achieving the goal and uh you know many many yeah and many times they're gonna make a calculation of the greater good so like you I mean God forbid people are suffering uh but uh you know like do you really want another generation to go by without the temple being rebuilt or you know whatever the calculation that the person is thinking in their head to say like yes suffering is bad like you know like I'm not a uh completely immoral person but
	there's other things that are more important than human suffering and probably the tendency of people that get to position of power is uh you know that they really don't care about their fellow human suffering.
	Uh forgive me if I misheard you but did you just imply that the temple in greater Israel is more important than Palestinian suffering.
	God forbid but I was saying like there is a faction of extremist Jews that uh probably do hold like that.
	Right, right.
	So you know it could be the it could be the ones connected to Trump uh possibly are you affiliated somewhat uh let me play you this uh clip real quick I'm not sure if you've seen this or if you've seen me play it but this is the Rebbe um talking about making peace with the Palestinians.
	So they're about to have talks with the Arabs about Eretz Israel.
	Eretz Israel.
	It's important that the rabbi said to the government and to the people of Israel that they're not talking to the Arabs about Eretz.
	It is for t the Rebbe he's telling the Rebbe to tell the government officials in Israel that it's forbidden to talk with the Arabs about Israel.
	So here let me finish on.
	And to give territories of Eretz Israel to the enemy, the Palestinians.
	He says the government of Israel promised him and they will surely keep their promise all of these talks there will not be any concessions of territories and and Netanyahu and Kushner are basically following the Rebbe's uh guidance.
	"The interests of the border are only in order to be honest." Have you seen this before David The talks are only so the public shouldn't say that they're not having claw our shalom doesn't mean they're wrong either.
	But this is the second time that the enemy will be.
	And the enemy will be in Israel.
	The last thing is that every king of Israel is afraid that the king and all the fundamentalists of the Shabbat will come to the land of Israel and will be a true and perfect life.
	The last thing is that the enemy will be to Israel.
	The last thing is that the enemy will be to the end of the land of Israel.
	I mean well the the Rebbe died and he didn't uh make it back.
	So uh your your thoughts on that like it looks pretty bad right that they're trying to pretend like they want to make peace but really they're just gonna roll over I've already seen true news did an interview with the Barel Lazar, the uh Putin's rabbi the uh Hasidic rabbi and said that there is no sovereign Palestinian state well I'm not sure how bad it looks and I think you know basically the Rebbe has won out in terms of uh you know the Trump administration where um and
	and even from the perspective of the Palestinians and Arabs that the Rebbe was saying um you know there's no way that the land that's now in Jewish hands is going to be given uh uh given back that uh you know what that uh there's Jewish land the Jews have uh obtained even if it was through uh negative things, God forbid, possibly war crimes, but under no circumstances is it going to be given back.
	And that's pretty, you know, basic.
	I would assume the majority of even leftist Israelis agree with that.
	And, you know, just about the politics of saying if you can't say that openly, where there is no scenario where we give back land for the sake of greater diplomacy or media, you know, that's a Jewish outlook towards truth that you might, you know, not, you know, where there's a greater interpretation of truth or.
	the ends and uh means, but I don't think that that's anything super out of the ordinary.
	I don't think that they were saying that we're gonna give land back to the Arabs.
	They were saying none of Eretz Israel should go to should be negotiated and given to the Arabs.
	Kind of like in the Old Testament says thou shalt uh make no covenant with them.
	I think that's the commandment that they're following there.
	So um that's what Netanyahu you uh ran on the whole time.
	That's why, in essence, that's why the Rebbe created Netanyahu as a political figure to rise and spread the idea among Israelis that uh like look, there's no way you can't give this land back, you even if you decide to be set up a liberal secular democracy or or whatever, um, in the Rebbe you're being a religious figure of uh Hasidic sect, obviously a different interpretation of Judaism.
	Um but uh you know, I don't know what year that video is from, but it's probably 30 years ago, uh, which maybe it would have been considered outrageous, but with the rise of Trump and Netanyahu, you actually that's uh you're the mainstream position now, right?
	It is, yeah.
	And it looks like that they're gonna finally achieve their goals and uh have greater Israel smash the Palestinian uh possibility for a state forever and uh rebuild the temple.
	Uh do you think that them doing all this that they're gonna be, or I should say you're gonna be uh successful, or do you think this is gonna have uh repercussion repercussions and blowback?
	Yeah, but I believe in your karma, and God forbid you can't sin and get away with it.
	And generally these greater good arguments uh are flawed, especially when they're an excuse to uh turn a blind eye to human suffering.
	You know, so you say, okay, the building of the temple, and we know the Rebbe's approach.
	I mean, the Rebbe uh that's why he sent people through the uh out the world and to teach about God and the seven Noah laws and uh you know the various things that uh you've noted on your stream that uh you we weren't gonna uh occupy the temple through violence.
	However, there are extremists among us, so you know there is a certain school that uh you know they don't want to go through the whole trouble of bringing world peace and following all the religious dictates and and you know however could look at it that way.
	Uh but that's pretty minor.
	And if you're trying to put the Rebbe in that school, you know, the evidence is pretty clear that uh like no the Rebbe cared about human rights of Arabs and Palestinians, but there were certain issues to him that were just non-negotiable, like giving back land.
	Do you think that it's anti-Semitic to oppose the temple?
	It depends how they brand it.
	So at this point, you could say like yes.
	You say, like, okay, well, anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, so you could say like anti um rebuilding the templism is anti-um Semitism because it's something intrinsically in the nature of the Jew to want to rebuild the temple because that's what our religion's about.
	That's what it says in our prayers.
	But just because it's your nature and it's in your prayers doesn't mean that it's justified.
	And and they already have a term that they've rolled out already for when they want to build the temple.
	It's temple denier.
	Did you hear the guy at CPAC say that?
	I didn't watch CPAC.
	You'll be an anti-Semitic uh temple denier.
	So let me move on here to uh oh, let's see.
	The speaking of anti-Semitism, the ADL in Trump's executive order.
	Where am I?
	What do you uh did you see the any of the congressional hearing on white supremacy and with Jonathan Jonathan Greenblock?
	Yeah, I watched the whole thing.
	I uh I usually watch in two speed, but I usually watch the all those congressional hearings related to uh you know, certainly anti-Semitism, and I watch a lot of those in general.
	Um, you know, I think I'm gonna try to re redo your Skype because your your Skype is lagging, it's not just my OBS.
	Let me call you right back and then I'm gonna uh drop the entropy thing in.
	Let me call you right back, okay, David?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Guys, uh, if you have any questions or comments, the entropy link is in the description below.
	And uh I will be taking a look at that at some point or throughout the stream.
	It's in the description and in the chat.
	And mods, make sure that it's uh staying respectful in here.
	I like to be respectful to my guests that uh that come on and discuss these issues.
	Okay.
	Hopefully it's a little bit better.
	Let's play this, uh Duvid.
	Oh, wait, I gotta share the screen with you.
	That's right.
	Hold on.
	Oops.
	Oh, wow.
	Stop sharing.
	Done, done.
	Okay, here we go.
	Jonathan Greenblatt.
	The the guilt of the Holocaust and its memory is fading, and that's allowing, again, I think bad ideas to come into the center.
	Because there's going to come a time in the not so distant future when there will be no more survivors, and who will tell their story?
	And if you look at the statistics, the percentage of people who don't either don't know about the Holocaust, literally don't know about it, or don't believe it.
	The aspect of this from an educational standpoint to me is the single other than politicians like us and people in the public discourse watching what we say and not feeding this rise in anti-Semitism.
	It is it is ensuring that that this is taught as a as a fact of history, and not just some tall tale.
	So we know that our own high school students.
	Okay, so I want to ask you about that.
	Jonathan Greenblatt is worried that the guilt of the Holocaust is gonna fade away, and that this is gonna mean anti-Semitism is gonna spread.
	My question to you is should I be guilty for the Holocaust?
	Should there still be guilt for stuff for people that didn't play any part of it that weren't alive?
	Isn't that blood libel that the ADL is always harping against the guilt is a complicated concept and almost theological and saying people should have guilt uh for other people's suffering?
	I'm not sure if that's what uh Greenblatt is saying.
	Like I, you know, I can't endorse what he's saying.
	And you obviously you know Greenblatt is speaking as a Jew, not as uh you know, rabbi, not of a scholar, and he's not necessarily speaking on behalf of uh traditional Judaism or what the sages have said over the generation.
	He's just using you know what he probably sees as the tools best available to him to uh you know defend and help his people.
	So those tools would be like this, uh the anti-Semitism definition and this the executive order that Kushner just had Trump sign, uh this is state.gov defining anti-Semitism.
	It's so many things like targeting that can be interpreted as any criticism at all, saying that you're conspiring, stereotypes, blaming when things go wrong, a myth of a world Jewish conspiracy, Jews controlling the media,
	economy, government, or other societal institutions, a few more, saying that Israel is racist or or Judaism is racist, comparing Zionism to uh the Nazis, saying that Jews killed Jesus or blood libel, talking about loyalty to uh Jews, loyalty to Israel.
	What are your thoughts on this definition?
	Yeah, I'm not a fan of the definition.
	I'm not a fan of uh you know censorship of any form.
	Um, but I understand, so to say, the mindset of the Jews that uh you I would say that theirs is the dominant strategy, so like Duvid uh does not uh employ traditional Jewish strategy and the strategy that uh you know the ADL or the Israel and organizations is basically the dominant uh Jewish strategy that uh you know most Jews uh subconsciously or however you understand uh consciousness employ.
	And how would you describe that traditional mindset of the ADL that's for censorship you'll kind of destroy our enemy before they destroy us, and and you could give historical reasons, uh genetic reasons, a whole series of reasons for why Jews might have that behavioral characteristic.
	And most of these organizations were created during World War II.
	Like, you know, ADL predates World War II, but you have a lot of these organizations that were created in World War II for the purpose of defending— It predates World War I. Sorry to interrupt, but I believe it was 1913, the same year as the IRS, or maybe 1917, right before the Bolshevik Revolution as
	well, and before World War I. Yeah, so ADL is—ADL, B'nai B'riff, there's a lot of Jewish organizations that have a longer history, but a lot of organizations were created during the war that have the explicit purpose of defending Jews.
	So, and a lot of them have large endowments.
	They have big funders, you know, that endow these organizations to, you know, fight anti-Semitism.
	And this is the approach that they've taken, and a lot of these organizations are kind of redundant.
	they don't they're unneeded or or God forbid they've been waiting for a rise in anti-Semitism because they were or or you have Israel that obviously has its global situation where public relations is a big deal for Israel.
	So a lot of these things are designed to win over the public uh relationships battle with Palestine in America and uh so if you want to look at like pure strategizing God forbid they're rigging the system in their favor for the purpose of winning the PR battle between Israel and Palestine and so the real target of that is uh pro-Palestinian activist but once they have it you know they'll be able to use it they'll use it.
	It's not just pro-Palestinian.
	They try to frame it as this is just to stop BDS.
	But really with this definition, they're smashing any type of opposition to all the things that they're doing.
	Wouldn't you agree many Jews have more loyalty to Israel, that they do conspire, that they are racist?
	Yeah, I agree with you because, God forbid, it's some dystopian nightmare where you're damned no matter what you do.
	decision you make you're wrong because the rules are self-contradictory so uh you know like I don't know uh I don't you know it's not my strategy that I employ but like yeah I do recognize that that is the dominant Jewish strategy and most Jews you know generally do fall in line with the strategy that our organizations are currently employing.
	And this would be leftist.
	So the question and then where you have people like they're supposedly Republicans and on the right that might work together for strategic reasons when it's fitting.
	So, you know, supposedly the ADL and, you know, the AJC and all these organizations are generally leftist.
	But then when President Trump signs an order like this, you know, all of a sudden they're like, great job, President Trump, because it did benefit them that, you know, the executive order that President Trump.
	Trump signed is going to be used mostly by organizations like the ADL in order to file lawsuits that historically they would not have been able to file.
	It'll be APEC too and Sheldon Adelson funds Elon Carr the anti-Semitisms are so I see both sides obviously benefiting and advocating for this um it's like a payoff to the leftist Jewish organization.
	So the majority of the Jewish population obviously leans very left and highly dislikes President Trump.
	But if they could, you know, God forbid, throw a bone to the heads of Jewish organizations, you know, like this and saying, like, you know, what would you really want?
	It was like more tools to sue people.
	And so President Trump is like, OK, like I'll give these organizations more tools to sue people with.
	And, you know, then they'll back off for a bit.
	Yeah, it's more than just suing to its censorship and possibly even.
	It making it illegal and throw in jail.
	The left and the right both point the finger at the other side and say, you know, you're the anti-Semitic problem.
	But in the end, they both agree and they both benefit from more of these anti-Semitism hysteria in laws.
	And I see the mindset as somewhat paranoid.
	And the way that they're like proactive with smashing any threat.
	Isn't this is I think in the Talmud or I know it's in Judaism somewhere where you're justified to kind of kill your enemy.
	that's that could pose a threat or a po uh is opposition to you.
	Yeah, it's all over the Bible.
	I mean it's straight Moses.
	There's a verse in Mosaic Law that says if someone rises to kill you, you kill them first.
	Um, first, right.
	Yeah, and Israel has uh um uh the name slipping me right now, but uh you know, like has a military theory of uh you know, so to say uh escalation to uh scare the opponent from uh deterrence theory, sorry, yeah, deterrence theory, I think is the you know, like the Israeli military strategy of uh you know using small acts of violence to uh scare or deter the opposing sides from escalation.
	Yeah, kind of like uh the Urgun terrorists would uh slaughter a village so that everybody else would flee and then they uh take their land like they did in 48.
	What is it?
	Yeah de San, I think is the name of that uh that massacre.
	I I always get it mixed up.
	But um what do you think of the saying?
	I'm sure you've heard they they cry out in the proverb, right?
	That Polish or Russian proverb, they cry out in pain as they strike you.
	Do you do you see some uh truth to that statement?
	Yeah, I mean, I I buy the general culture of critique argument and saying, like, yes, we do have a culture of critique, and uh if that's some sort of you know, hint on that, like you know, even as we're uh you know, striking you, like we're still you know, complaining.
	Uh so like kind of playing the victim, like saying, Oh, we're so persecuted while Jonathan Greenblad is pressuring all the social media and is always in Congress and all over mainstream media.
	Well, I mean you're saying okay, okay, that's their strategy.
	Like, obviously they have a goal and they employ a strategy to meet their goals.
	So, you know, say if their strategy is opposite your strategy, um, you know, you have a conflict here.
	Uh, but uh you know, I don't see what's too complicated.
	Well, my strategy is obviously in their strategy is pretty obvious.
	My strategy is to uh promote the truth and to stop injustice and hypocrisy, and their strategy seems to be to suppress the truth and to squash any opposition to the things that they're uh uh overtly doing.
	Do you think that this is gonna backfire that they're overplaying their hand and that the censorship is is gonna end up uh you know with negative consequences?
	Yeah, I personally agree with you on that.
	And that it's a one thing it's not gonna work, it's gonna backfire, and it's just a poor strategy calculation that even if I was on the side, so to say, of uh you know the greater goal that uh you know, just think like this is a really poor way of going about it, but uh you know, I have no power to control what the consensus of heads of Jewish organizations are doing.
	But you're just on your previous point, kind of like as a journalist.
	If you're saying your job as a journalist is to tell truth to power, and in this case, you know, the Jews or the Zionist or the ADL or these organizations are power, and you're telling truth, um, you know, that's just the natural reaction of uh truth and power, that power protects itself and power will will sacrifice truth in order to maintain itself.
	Tell me about your saying, uh I don't know if you always say this, but you've said it to me before, and I don't even like repeating it because I'll get censored for saying it, but Jews are gonna Jew.
	Can you explain to me that that a saying that you have a well when you see uh you know Jews and media or involved in you know, maybe promoting our strategy, so to say, if it's uh you know, political multiculturalism or someone in greater society that uh society might not uh you know publicly to be a Jew,
	but that you know, like really they're a Jew, and then they you know we'll use that to advance greater Judaism if it's to promote Israel or immigration or multiculturalism or one of the general causes.
	It's like, well, of course Jews are gonna do.
	Um you know, it's a natural character and inclination.
	You could have a Jew that goes against, so to say, our inclination and acts uh in a different way due to uh training and self-control.
	Uh, but you said, like, of course, like you know, that's our inclination.
	You know, of course we're acting like that.
	Well, I'm glad that you say that, but if anybody else says it, it's they say that it's a myth or it's an anti-Semitic trope or a stereotype.
	Right?
	I'm not sure.
	I mean, depending because you'd have to put context into the situation and uh you know it's like Alan Dershowitz who says, you know, thinking Jews are good with money is true and a compliment.
	So then you might have the ADL who's saying the Jews are good with money is uh makes you an anti-Semite, but then you know um Alan Dershowitz says it's a compliment and it's true.
	Yeah, it's kind of like how they say uh it's anti-Semitic to say that Jews have any you know influence or power and that or that they're controlling or pulling the strings, but at the same time it's anti we're anti-Semitic because we're jealous of their success.
	Like it's like double speak having it both ways, which really gets under my skin.
	Uh double standards and hypocrisy.
	Yeah, I maybe agree with you, but I could just function and say, okay, humans are flawed in general.
	To be logically consistent um is near impossible.
	People just do the best, and sometimes you see their hypocrisy and inconsistencies, and what are you gonna do with that?
	You're gonna say, okay, like you know, like you're bad, you're wrong, you have to you know be uh shunned from society, you say, okay, like it's a tough world, and people do their best.
	Yeah.
	It's they I feel like a lot of times they're they're suppressing um European people from doing their best and looking out for their own interests.
	But uh let's play another clip here and uh move topics a little bit and get your thoughts on this here.
	Let's play.
	This is Barry Weiss, the Zionist uh princess that's being pushed everywhere on Bill Mayer and HBO, you know, Jewish owned network and uh with Bill Mayer, who's pro-Israel and pro-Netanyahoo.
	Here we go.
	Is the fact that anti-Semitism uh it's more than just about the Jews, it's about the health of a society that for pretty much all through human history, as certainly uh as long as the Jews have been around, whenever a society becomes anti-Semitic, it's an indication about something wrong in their body politic.
	That's interesting to me.
	That's exactly right.
	I wrote this book not just because my synagogue in Pittsburgh was the one that was shot up.
	So just to uh pause it there, because uh copyright, this idea that the explanation to anti-Semitism is something's wrong with your society.
	Why don't Jews ever have an honest conversation about maybe anti-Semitism is because of something they're doing or their behavior.
	Well, I think we do, most of us do.
	And uh, but there's a segment, maybe you know, 10-20% of the Jewish population that just like you know, God forbid, like we're awesome.
	If you got a problem with us, it's your problem, not ours, because we're awesome.
	And so when you see someone like that, you know, like it's insulting and it's upsetting, and uh you know, but it's a minor fragment of the Jewish population.
	Then you say, okay, maybe the ADL or certain Jewish organizations represent that fragment of the Jewish population.
	So you could be like, you know, like, no, I have hundreds of Jewish friends.
	Like, you know, you're a popular guy who knows thousands, tens of thousands of people, and you know enough Jews to uh you make your determination of saying, you know, what what is that uh normal even among Jews?
	You know, that's a good thing.
	I hadn't thought because I don't I'm I don't know many Jews.
	I I talked to you a little bit uh for a while I was talking to Shlomo some, and uh Andrew Meyer is one of the only ones that I've uh had on and had conversations with.
	So, you know, I do see Greenblatt and all the people in media and in government, the the really you know strong Zionist that like I kind of feel like that's how so many of them are.
	So I I can't tell from my experience uh what the average Jew says about what's anti-Semitism.
	Yeah, I mean it's saying that like the she's from the Deborah Libstadt school of you know anti-Semitism, which is everything is anti-Semitism, yeah.
	And and it's not our fault.
	And you can't blame victim blame Jews for anti-Semitism and uh you know, like it's you know, God forbid if someone has something it's against the Jews, it's because there's something nefarious about them.
	Well, a lot of times it is though.
	Just like they can't say that none of it's legitimate, you can't say that all you know all anti-Jew stuff is just baseless, illegitimate anti-Semitism.
	Yeah, so the institutional, the large organization.
	So if you're just you know have negative run-ins with Jews because there's Jewish institutions out there that are anti free speech, and you have uh you know a tendency to say things that uh they don't like uh being said, and so you have a run-in with uh Jewish organizations that are uh against you.
	Um, you know, I I more buy into uh you know Kevin McDonald group uh conflict that there's legitimate group conflicts of interest.
	And I think your average Jew, the majority of Jews would probably recognize, like, yeah, there's legitimate group conflicts of interest, and we have to work through these, and we have to have uh public forums and conversations like this because uh there is a legitimate conflict of interest, and if we don't work through it, it could escalate and uh the situation could get worse.
	But yeah, of course, you're gonna have uh certain uh you know people out there that uh you know sound like Barry Weiss, and for whatever reason, the institutional Judaism, you know, generally they're going with people like Barry Weiss.
	They didn't ask me about it.
	Yeah, that they need to have Duvet on.
	Instead of having her on Joe Rogan twice when everybody hates her, they should have Joe Rogan have Duvid on to get uh a different perspective, or have somebody an anti-Zionist on as well.
	So here let's finish.
	But it's a quid pro crow because she's inside what we'll call the old money, and uh that's why you're saying like you get into those circles, like God forbid, like the Jeffrey Epps name, Palm Springs, Manhattan Circles through putting someone there like Barry Weiss, and uh, you know, so that's why they do it.
	It's like why the hell are they putting her up again?
	And he was saying, like, well, because if they don't, you know, they're not gonna get invited to uh you know, God forbid the next party in Palm Springs.
	Right.
	Okay, here's probably a little more.
	The more I research this topic and looked at Jewish history and really all of history, I found that societies where anti-Semitism thrives are societies that are dead or dying.
	Why is that?
	It's because anti-Semitism is the ultimate conspiracy.
	And when anti-Semitism thrives, it's a it's a sign that that society has replaced truth with lies.
	You see, I just this is so infuriating to me that she's just dismissing anybody's criticism of them and saying it's your fault.
	It's like it's it's the opposite of victim blaming, sort of, you know.
	Yeah, I gotta agree.
	I'm with you there.
	I don't know like why she's risen to be the spokesperson for uh you know anti-Semitism, or maybe you're you're it's proof of a Jewish conspiracy that she's famous in on all these shows on The View, we're uh writer for New York Times doing this book on Joe Rogan.
	It's like it's it's obvious, and it's really sad that this is the type of uh strategy that they're taking.
	Because it's creating real more uh quote-unquote anti-Semitism.
	I looked into her bio, and she climbed the ranks.
	I mean, obviously, she you know, she as she said, she went to the Tree of Life synagogue in uh Pittsburgh, but then went to Columbia, and I guess she was uh lesbian girlfriend with that Saturday Night Live Kate McKinnon, and then got a job at the New York Times, and uh you're like, yeah, I mean, presumably she knows hundreds of Jewish uh multimillionaires.
	And uh that's probably you know her mindset is probably the dominant mindset of you know your Palm Springs Jew or your uh you know Upper East Side Manhattan Jew, the owners of the New York Times.
	Uh but there's you know, like thank God there's a lot of wealthy Jews, and there's different mindsets among different sects, but uh you know, she's more representative of these organizations that have been in America, uh, maybe German Jewish or uh you know whatever nature of them that uh you know these are the type people that are in charge of their organizations.
	You just said that there's a lot of wealthy Jews, and I just want to let the ADL know that I do not I disavow uh those types of tropes.
	That was all David saying that.
	Okay, here's another, you know, that was a joke, obviously.
	Here's another one.
	This is the guy in uh Congress the other day.
	Jew haters may be white supremacists, Islamic supremacists, or self-proclaimed social justice warriors, or just normal people that notice what's going on and are upset about it.
	You can't reason people out of anti-Semitism because no one was ever reasoned into it.
	Okay, well, I don't call myself anti-Semitic, maybe counter-Semitic, but I use a lot of reason.
	And this guy is in Congress trying to pass laws to label me a terrorist to censor me.
	I'm already demonetized on YouTube, kicked off a PayPal thanks to the ADL, the algorithms that the ADL's working with Silicon Valley are suppressing all of my stuff.
	And then he's gonna just gonna say, you know, there's no point reasoning with me because I'm unreasonable.
	Do you see how just wrong and infuriating that is?
	Yeah, man, I that's why I'm talking with you, and I and and like I could say like, yeah, unfortunately, like as a Jew, I know how our organizations operate, and there's not a lot of uh you know, real cultural exchange and people exchanging ideas and talking about the you know conflicting uh group interest and how it's escalating into you know,
	God forbid the breakdown of culture and society, and instead there's uh you know, usually attack your enemy and and just saying if you rise up through the ranks of you know you don't know too many Jews, and the only thing that's hit their radar is like this guy said things that we don't like people saying,
	and they start attacking you, and then they you know they're they're uh amazed when there's backlash and and you know, so certainly um it's not the approach I would take, and and uh you know, that's why I turned to alternative media and YouTube media uh because uh you know, I didn't like the approach that the majority of Jewish institutions are you know, continuing to take, unfortunately.
	What do you think of the saying, the Goyam no shut it down?
	Yeah, I saw that with my friend Jake Turks, who I w I want I want to get on your show, the you know the one who uh President Trump uh had yelled at that first year, the Hasidic uh reporter from Los Angeles.
	Um but but I mean they were saying that that's an old Jewish meme that Jews have been using uh for decades, and I don't know, it just got more popular uh recently among uh among Goyam.
	The Goyum uh well, I I would think that like throughout you know, they say that anti-Semitism is the oldest hate from the beginning of time, everywhere uh you guys go, the same thing.
	Like does it make you cringe of like people that say that, the lack of self-awareness that they're just blaming everybody else and just not even trying to refute any of the stuff that people say about 'em, to say you're evil for even, you know, saying this stuff and that and not looking at their own behavior or actions.
	Does that make you cringe?
	Well, to uh it's just ignorance, because like okay, I'm an educated man.
	I went to a school founded by uh you know, a disciple of Freud.
	I've heard of Maslow and the hierarchy of needs, and you know, like no, I mean hatred is probably a natural human emotion, and uh you know you don't need some sort of uh unique evil to it.
	So y you know, God forbid it's it's just kind of like an embarrassment, you know, so you go and you see and like who's speaking on behalf of you is these people speaking and there's no logic or rhythm to what they're saying.
	It's uh you know, you God forbid really unfortunate.
	And that's why I took the YouTube.
	I was surprised, like, you know, it can't be like Rep Duvet sounds better than our leaders.
	It's like they say that the really that their argument is that this is an ancient hate, it's a disease, it infects society, and they've hated us all over the world forever since the beginning of time for no reason at all.
	Just it's in their DNA to hate us.
	Well, it's a perversion of the sages, so I mean, within the religion.
	So if you're just looking at a common Jew who's not familiar with uh what our sages said, uh versus you know, kind of how the sages or the Kabbalist uh laid out uh you know, what does it mean to be a Jew?
	What does it mean uh you know, the part that Jews play in the unfolding of history and you know, possibly the redemption of mankind and the redemption of the whole world, and uh you know, so you just see like the Bible is like a scary book, and you might see your own religion as a scary book.
	That's why hence most Jews are uh liberal, they like certain aspects of Jewish culture, the religion, uh, but generally the Jewish religion's kind of a scary religion, you know, the god of Moses is you god forbid a scary god, and uh so your average Jew probably doesn't think that much about it,
	but you know, these tropes seep out and uh you know, people's speech, and uh you see you need someone that uh has read the sages, understands the sages and uh from the global perspective, like we're talking Trump and uh Netanyahu in front of the White House this week, and uh rebuilding the temple could become something very real.
	And uh, you know, so you've read the books, you foul world politics, you know how important the temple is.
	Uh but you know, seven.
	I know how scary I know how important it is to you guys.
	I know how bad it is for Gentiles.
	Well, I say, you know, in the literature, so it's saying even if it wasn't for the extremist, you know that you've read the literature of the people from historical generations, and they all talked about how important this was.
	And it's saying if you open up the Bible, you came from a Christian background, and uh, you know, even if you um no longer believe the stories you were told as a kid, you probably still hold some superstition when all of a sudden the news is talking about Jerusalem and uh you know, talking about the temple and Jews, that uh you know you're you're thinking superstitions, the stories your mother told you when you were a kid.
	Well, you you mentioned uh opening up the Bible and seeing uh scary stories.
	Let me show you a few of these that I have ready to uh show you that I that I that concern me for the Messianic era and uh you know the Torah following Jews.
	So we have uh Deuteronomy 7-6, for thou art in holy people unto the Lord thy God, the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
	So, how is that not supremacist?
	And and it's just another thing, the the hypocrisy that the ADL and Jews are always talking about white supremacy and and uh white nationalism when they're all about Jewish nationalism and their you know Judaism is inherently supremacist.
	Well, I mean you'd have to deconstruct uh what you're asking, and you know, so you could take multiple uh approaches to it.
	You're like, what is special mean?
	You know, like God forbid when I was in school, you called uh you know the retarded that was special education.
	Okay, all right.
	Chosen means retired.
	I like that take.
	That's funny.
	Or even you know, God forbid, like the famous American short story of the lottery, where where the you know the um but uh or you whenever you could take an approach to you know, special just means we have a special purpose, that all people are special, all people have a special purpose.
	Okay, well, let me let me pause you there.
	Your purpose is to lead the Gentiles and be a chosen nation of priests, and then the Gentile's purpose is to follow Noahide laws, which includes serving you and looking to you towards the ch as the chosen one.
	So it's that's still supremacist, too, even if you look at it that way.
	Well, I mean, so from a believing perspective, even if I wanted to be as politically incorrect as possible, and it's like, yes, um, you know, look at us like management, we are management, and the best you could do as a goy is join us in management, um, because that's the way God laid it out.
	That's the way God created the world.
	And it's like that guy when I was sorry to interrupt the guy that was uh that you guys watched the clip of the guy, Rabbi Lateman's in uh interpreter or translator, he says, Oh, we're hubs and nodes, and it's just the the nature of the world that we kind of lead you guys, like I'm sorry, continue.
	I hope I didn't know.
	Well, if you have freedom of belief, and uh if you're a critic of the Jewish religion, and that's your right uh to be a critic of the Jewish religion, you're saying not under Noahide laws, not under Noahide laws.
	You can't criticize the Torah, the temple, uh Hashem, any of it.
	Well, I say from a religious perspective, and you believe then freedom of religion, you believe people can entertain ideas uh that are deemed uh you know from you to be untrue or even possibly subversive in general.
	Well, the Noahide laws aren't freedom of religion, they say Christianity is idolatry, and you just need to be uh a Noahide, and that you can't create your own holidays, and you know, that reminds me of a question I meant to ask.
	I see the executive order and this definition and all of this anti-Semitism hysteria, anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism is hate speech, you know, it must be consequences and laws.
	I see this as them trying to implement the Noahide laws, number two, where you cannot blaspheme God, the temple, God's chosen people.
	Do you do you agree?
	Do you see that As the Noahide laws uh from a believing perspective, you say that the actor is God, you know, the creator of everything who is uh doing this stuff, and there might be vehicles among humankind or mankind that are acting as agents of God.
	So if you reject that explanation, you say, like, no, do it, I do not believe that God is the agent here that's uh causing this stuff to happen.
	I think it's a conspiracy among men who are acting together, no connection with the creator of the world.
	Well, are you saying Sheldon Adelson and Trump and Apech and the ADL are not men conspiring and that this is just uh God's will to silence our free speech and and to call Christianity idol worship?
	Well, saying that God is acting through these men.
	So when you talk about the rebuilding of the temple, the rebuilding of Jerusalem, for whatever reason that God chose to act through you know Trump and Sheldon Adelson or Netanyahu and these characters, uh, could be unbeknownst to uh to us, we might not be able to figure out.
	Uh, but uh you know, the you could know from the Bible in the holy text what God says is gonna happen within the prophecies, and uh you so I think your your average Amer uh leader in America and worldwide, you generally, when they look to understanding the world,
	they're one of the big factors they look to is the biblical prophecies uh prophecies, and if you're you know you're just in rejection of that, like I do not want my foreign affairs ran on uh you know biblical prophecy, um, that's a you're in a tough spot because uh you know, currently, yes, uh our foreign policy is largely ran on interpretations of the biblical prophecy.
	Well, you know, there's two ways of looking at it.
	You could say that uh God is making or prophecy is just uh coming true, or you can say these people know what the prophecy is and they're actively trying to fulfill it, which I think it's the latter.
	We're saying it's both, but but you say who's the agent?
	So you say God's will is has some special force that's gonna be pushed forward, and if someone's currently an agent, their only power is the fact that God's using them to manifest something larger, and uh, you know, like I was saying, like Netanyahu and Gans, Trump um rebuilding the temple is something bigger than any of those people.
	So, you know, should any of those people fall from power, uh, there's still gonna be factions that are like, look, we gotta rebuild this temple.
	We have to fulfill thousands of years of prophecy, and uh, you know, the names and faces will just change.
	Okay.
	Uh you mentioned about like Trump being chosen.
	We've been seeing he says I'm chosen, he says I'm the you know, he retweeted that he's the king of the Jews, there's all this stuff calling him Cyrus, and then uh this was in the news just the other day.
	Trump on the secret recording with the Ukrainian rabbi, they call him a messiah, once again.
	They compare him to the Messiah.
	Which why are they calling Trump Messiah when you know I say Cush, you you you dismiss when I say Kushner could be the Messiah when he's actually a Chabad uh Jew with a lot of power?
	Why do they even like they don't really think Trump is the Messiah?
	Why would they say that?
	He's not they do because when you're saying, okay, I think you're the Messiah because you exhibit um signs that the Messiah is predicted uh to exhibit and you're accomplishing things the Messiah you alone is expected to accomplish.
	So a scholar who knows Judaism knows like, well, there's a lot of requirements, there's a lot of things, you know, like being a descendant of King David, uh preaching the Mosaic Law, and you could look like, okay, the Lababich Rebbe, according to traditional Judaism, is a Messiah candidate.
	Uh Kushner or Trump is not.
	But if you're just a Jew, like Leif Parnase, or you know, even uh maybe Kushner to some level is not a great scholar on Judaism, and he's just looking like uh, well, if you rebuild the temple, like, you know, who the Messiah is supposed to rebuild the temple, who's closer to rebuilding the temple than Trump?
	Um, you know, if anybody in the world could rebuild the temple, it's probably President Trump, and uh, you know, like only Messiah could rebuild the temple, so President Trump must be Messiah.
	So there is a certain logic that a lot of Jews who aren't scholarly in our own traditions, don't know everything that the sages say, could just you know fall in to say, well, this person is causing many of the Messianic prophecies to come true, therefore they must be Messiah.
	But but this is the this isn't just like you know somebody that doesn't know what the prophecies are.
	This is the top uh Chabad rabbi in Ukraine.
	So do do you do they think Trump is Jewish possibly?
	My guess would be that that's Parnase is misinterpreting like the top rabbi in Ukraine, and there's two rabbis, and I've actually met both of them.
	Um there's no way that maybe for my interpretation that that's what the rabbi said, Parnai's probably misinterpreted me because the rabbi from Ukraine, you know, if he's a Labobic rabbi, like obviously knows everything that Maimonides says that needs to be accomplished for Messiah to come, and just rebuilding the temple or getting uh one world leader on your side, uh, you know, doesn't make you Messiah.
	Yeah, they were also pointing to Jumatria because Trump equals 424, which I think is most Shech Ben David in Dematria as well.
	Okay.
	Uh all right, let's go back to this.
	Uh back to the old testament verses that I wanted to uh share with you that trouble me.
	Deuteronomy 14, 1 and 2, ye are the children of the Lord your God, ye shall not cut yourselves nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead, whatever that means.
	For thou art in holy people unto the Lord thy God, and the Lord hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all nations that are upon the earth.
	So above all nations.
	How how are you gonna pit pull that that's not uh supremacist Well, you say it's function for whatever reason the creator of the whole universe had a specific type of worship in mind for and that specific type of worship was given to the Jewish people, uh, but that specific type of worship is the essential form of worship that the creator of everything intended.
	So I mean that's basically Jewish doctrine, Jewish theology.
	So it is, yes, it is.
	So that's why I think it's inherently or intrinsically supremacist.
	Um Shmuli Botiak, and whenever you know people are questioned about this, they go, Oh, it we're not chosen.
	This doesn't mean we're supremacists, it's a burden that we have to spread uh spread Yahweh's uh word across the earth, but still, even that, even when you look at it that way, it's like, okay, so you want the whole world to follow your God, your laws,
	where you're the chosen people and we're supposed to serve you in the Messianic era, like no matter which way you slice it, and I find this funny, um, to be a peculiar people unto himself, uh definition of peculiar, strange, odd, or unusual.
	I I'd I'd say that fits a little bit.
	Well, you mean here's in the King James translation, obviously, not uh a Jewish one.
	Well, you're right.
	I maybe it doesn't uh you know, peculiar wasn't in the Hebrew uh you know, in the Torah.
	Unique.
	I I think the Hebrew word more more would be considered uh unique, but uh Yeah, I mean you have uh interpretations and we have the apologists or the people that are just trying to uh you know, so to say push you away.
	Like you came with a legitimate critique on a verse on the religion of Judaism, you're saying like what's up, what do you guys believe?
	And then when they push back at you with something that's clearly false, uh just to kind of like push you away, it becomes obvious and upsetting.
	And you know, that I can understand your perspective on that.
	Yeah, here's the way I look at it.
	Like, if you guys want to believe this, that's that's fine with me, but your beliefs have an effect on your behavior.
	So if you're putting this supremacist belief into action with your with your behavior, that's when it's gonna have bad consequences for the rest of us.
	And the hypocrisy of them always saying, Oh, anybody that calls us out for anything we do, you're a white supremacist, like that's just you know just ridiculous.
	It's absurd.
	I think to most Jews it's obvious, you know, saying, like, if we use you know, we we uh Jews by nature have a tendency to try to influence elites and leadership.
	Historically, that's been our strategy till today.
	You like if you're an elected official, like I said, any denomination of Judaism from reform reconstruction into ultra orthodox, like all of them in school have a class assignment to uh speak to their local politician.
	It's you know, a nature of uh almost universal, like Jews vote in the high 90 Percent uh you know generally um and and so it should be obvious uh even though the leaders of our institutions don't seem to think so, that trying to influence the public sphere will have a pushback.
	And uh you know, so it said, like, yeah, you should try to under if you have critiques on Judaism, that's fine.
	You ask your questions and have your opinions.
	And if Jews are trying to influence society in a way that you don't like, uh, you know, that's a battle for town hall, and you should have your opinions, and you should be able to say that you know, I don't like the way that Jews are trying to influence my society, and like as a Jew, I don't like the fact that my institutions uh you know how they go about uh doing it, that's why I participate in these conversations.
	Yeah, um they should take the approach kind of like don't hate the player, hate the game, you know, and we should try to emulate the um you know your guys' in-group preference and looking out for your interest and uh kind of Kevin McDonald style.
	But what you just said that the minority is good at influencing uh, you know, the powerful groups.
	We got Barry Weiss in the ADL saying that's an anti-Semitic trope that that ever happens.
	Watch this.
	It's a thought virus that's carried forward in civilization, and just like any of us have lots of viruses in our body at a given time.
	Right as long as we're healthy, they don't show themselves.
	When a society begins to become unhealthy and tearing itself apart, as we see here and throughout Europe, anti-Semitism begins to show its face.
	Very upsetting.
	It's the next clip coming up, but the fact that she calls our legitimate concerns a virus and a disease is just it's here.
	We know what it is.
	Oops.
	Why the why the Jews?
	Why do they have the kick me sign on their back?
	Well, I mean, but I'd have to go back to the book of Matthew, and even before that to Egypt, uh, in 300 BCE.
	The the the I mean, there's so many different peoples in the world.
	Sure.
	I mean I mean, and a lot of them have gotten shit from a lot of people.
	But it just seems the Jews are always on the move.
	Yeah, we we are.
	We are.
	And I think here's one reason for it.
	So when the Jews rejected Jesus as the son of God.
	Oh, that thing.
	Okay, that thing.
	I knew that was something I got.
	Comes back to him, and it is.
	So if you look at the idea that the Jews get the the most power, the tiny Jews get the most powerful empire in the world, the Roman Empire, to do their bidding by killing Jesus.
	And if you look at the anti-Semitic tropes that we see now, what is the Jew?
	The Jew is not, it's not like racism where the person of color is subhuman and the anti and the racist is punching down.
	In the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, the Jew is the wily manipulator, the puppeteer, the person close to power that gets power to do its bidding.
	And in a way, it all goes back to that original conspiracy.
	Well, I am no expert on Judaism, although I try never to pay retail.
	I love he's got some funny Jewish jokes.
	But um, so there, you know, the it's an anti-Semitic trope that we got the Romans to kill Jesus.
	From what I read in Israel's Shahak, the Talmud doesn't even mention the Romans and that they they do take credit for having Jesus killed.
	They called him a magician and a false prophet and all this stuff.
	Is that correct?
	Well, yeah, but Barry Weiss is not an expert in Judaism.
	She hasn't actually, you know, as far as I know, read the sages.
	And so if you're someone, even though you're not Jewish, and when you started investigating Judaism, you went straight to like our texts and our sages, and then you hear you know, the path towards gaining institutional power in Jewish institutions isn't the studying of our sages.
	It's you know, largely going to good schools and uh social climbing, uh fundraising, the various things.
	So when you're looking at Barry Weiss, you're not looking at a Jew who knows even what Judaism's about, uh, you know, has a clue, probably what the majority of our sages say, uh, but just rose to institutional power and is uh unfortunately representative of the dominant uh Jewish strategy.
	I need to read culture of critique.
	It seems like you you reference that a lot um from McDonald.
	Here, listen, this is her on uh Joe Rogan the other day talking about uh her Jewishness.
	And we're always talking about like Jews, right?
	Like we're really proudly Jewish family.
	Anti-Semitism is kind of the linchpin of white supremacy because the Jew appears to be white, but in fact, he's not white.
	I mean, this is all based on this lie that Reese is not a social that race is not a construct, right?
	It's which it is.
	We're really proudly Jewish family.
	We're really proudly Jewish family.
	And it's lie that Rach is not a social that race is not a construct, right?
	It's which it is.
	We're really proudly Jewish family.
	So she says she grew up and had her uh bot for girls, it's bot mitzvah bot mitzvah, right?
	Bot mitzvah with a T. Bot Mitzvah with a T. And she went to the tree of life synagogue that got shot up in Pittsburgh.
	And uh so in what she goes, we're really proud Jewish family, and then the a few minutes later she says, but race is a is a social construct.
	And that's another hypocrisy that uh you know makes a lot of people upset, is that they're all about being Jewish, proud Jewish, in group preference, but then they push for all the Gentiles that you know you have to have multiculturalism and race as a social construct.
	And if you if you uh look out for your group interest, you know, you're uh a Nazi, so it's it's letting them um it it's suppressing everybody else while they're uh flourishing, basically.
	You mean it's not super complicated if you if you you know you wanted to listen to like Jewish studies, someone talked to you.
	I even have stuff on my channel from the the local head of uh the university Judaic Studies talking about uh migration patterns, assimilation in America, and where you have uh you know, most Jewish institutions were created by so to say German Jews who came to America in the late 1800 in the wave of uh immigration from Germany,
	and they were assimilated and they took a strategy of assimilation, and those are like the founders of the New York Times and the ADL and uh people like Barry Weiss.
	Cultural Marxists in Frankfurt school in like Hollywood.
	Well, yeah, I mean that's all all part of it.
	And then after that, you have a wave of Eastern European Jews that come that are more anti-assimilationists, and uh, you know, Chabad is from the anti-assimilationist uh school.
	So, you know, at the same time, Barry Weiss is an archaeotype of the liberal Jew and the Jews that uh control um historic uh Jewish institutions in America that have a lot of power, like the members of APEC, um, versus uh religious sects like Chabad that have uh you know risen to power with a completely different strategy than the dominant one, uh let alone things like Zionist and strong Zionist and Trump and his business partners.
	So there's a lot, you know, there's some overlap among the various Jewish sects, um, but uh you know there's a lot of sectarianism among Jews.
	So at the same time, you could look at a Chabad rabbi is like, oh, he that's just a Jew Jewing, and Barry Weiss is a you know descendant probably of uh you know German uh Jewish immigrants in America over a hundred years, is also just a Jew Jewing.
	Yes, there's you know, there is differences between secular Jews, leftist Jews, and right wing religious Jews, but it seems like they do kind of have uh I don't want to get into a huge uh thread on this, but I think this is what McDonald talks about as well, that there's kind of like uh uh help help me out here.
	What is it called?
	Um it's like a group strategy strategy, evolutionary group strategy, right?
	Yeah, so saying the Chabad has a different group strategy than uh you know, like the ADL and reform Jews and German Jews and institutional Jews, but the greater strategy of the Jews, so to say, we're all in on.
	So even though you might appear to see Jewish organizations that are taking opposite strategies, we're still part of the greater Jewish strategy.
	Exactly.
	Uh kind of how uh this is the example I use is Dennis Prager says, yes, there's many left-wing Jews, secular Jews, but they still have sec he calls it secular messianism, so that they're still kind of have this idea that it's their purpose, their destiny to kind of lead the Gentiles and to kind of allow them to heal the world, and uh just the Jews as an agent of positive change.
	That you're like any Jew who's you know as a self-respecting Jew is like I'm a Jew, I'm an agent of positive change.
	And you know, you could look at it as a Gentile and be like, no, you're not gonna be A positive change, like I'm here to protest and say I do not want the change that you were proposing.
	Yes, yes.
	Uh, and you know, the first time I saw you, this is one of the changes, you know, Jews, ADL, not so much Haba or no, I I'll take that back, but um immigration, like open borders, diversity, multiculturalism, they're kind of for that for the Gentiles, but you know, like the the Rebbe Rebbe uh promoted the the melting pot, but of course they're segregationist, and they're all about you know, the the Torah says they uh thou shall not dwell in the land, they're all about having Jews only in Israel.
	The first time I ever saw you, I was blown away.
	You were on a panel, and you said you basically admitted, yes, Jews are behind um uh immigration, which they admit, but then they also say it's uh conspiracy theory, and that the great replacement the great replacement isn't happening, but why don't you explain the red elephants?
	It was Vincent and the red elephants, yeah.
	And you said yes.
	Yes, and you explained why.
	And he was like, Are you are you trolling?
	Are you being are you joking?
	Why is why is multiculturalism good for the Jews?
	Well, I mean, from the most simplistic uh base answer, it's a verse in Moses that the Jews are priests and nations, and uh it's easier to be a priest of nations when there's multiple nations to intermediary between, and that could come in any factor,
	but you know, generally, like as a believing Jew, you know, we believe we have some role as a priest and nation, and that you that uh historically might have came out in intermediary as commerce is uh um uh middlemen of business,
	uh banking, real estate, but the essential function of being an intermediary between nations is obviously easier to fill among many nations, and also just the safety factor that uh you know, when that when it's just one larger host population, it's easy for them to, God forbid, turn against us.
	But if there's a whole bunch of uh different populations together, they have to find unity amongst uh each other to be able to turn against us.
	So I mean to me that just seemed pretty straight logic.
	Um, you know, Vince I was surprised that Vince was surprised.
	It is it is common sense, but you know, there's here, let me show you an example of this.
	Is uh Brett.
	But as a nationalist, you could say, you know, okay, the Jews are like a natural enemy to nationalism.
	Yeah.
	And if you're already an avowed nationalist, you could be like, oh man, these Jews.
	And like uh Blanche TV just said in the chat, it's kind of like a divide and conquer strategy that if the Jews can get uh, you know, multiculturalism and groups fighting one another, that uh it's less likely that you guys will be persecuted.
	So, you know, I could see why you guys would want to do it, but at the same time, that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, and it's uh it's moral to do that to uh you know that's like saying, you know, the Israel has a right to their uh self-determination in their ancestral homeland, so why don't European countries have that?
	You know, you have Barbara Spector showing up saying that Europe will not uh not uh Europe will not uh survive without multiculturalism, and the Jews are gonna be resented for that, you know, it's obvious hypocrisy.
	And here's Brett Stevens, who in the New York Times said that Jews think differently than the Gentiles, and basically they've got the Ashkenazi IQs.
	He also says, Israel unsafe in a quote America first world.
	Have you seen did you hear about that?
	Yeah.
	Okay, let's move along to uh I got some more of these.
	Where are we?
	These uh verses.
	I'll try to get through these a little bit quicker.
	And thanks for coming on.
	We'll go another 45 minutes or so, and I'll I'll uh I'll check the entropy chats in a minute.
	Let me know if you need to take a restroom break or anything, do it.
	It'd be no problem.
	All right.
	No problem, Deuteronomy 14, 12.
	Ye are the children of the Lord, your God.
	Ye shall I already read that one.
	Isaiah 60 10 through 12.
	And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee.
	For in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favor I have had mercy on thee.
	So this is saying the kings shall minister, so shall be like subordinate to thee.
	And then it says the forces of the Gentiles and their their kings may be brought, so that the Gentile kings will be again kind of like serve the Jews.
	And here's the important part.
	Yeah those nations shall be utterly wasted.
	This sounds to me like, and this is Isaiah, which Ben Gurion said he predicts the future as prophesied by Isaiah Netanyahu says that the prophet Isaiah is, you know, coming to fruition.
	The nations that do not serve Israel will perish, and we shall be utterly wasted.
	Why would any Gentile or want to support the temple or be not be anti-Zionist when we are going to be utterly was utterly wasted if we don't serve Israel?
	Well, I mean, I mean, one thing you could look at as a warning in saying that you don't want to be from the people are wasted, therefore you're going to get on board with Israel or in terms of the God of Israel, and uh a warning or a threat, you know.
	That's a warning is kind of a euphemism for a threat.
	Yeah, I mean, but prophets obvious obviously prophets are not uh you know military leader, prophets are uh you're diviners of God's will.
	So when you hear words from a prophet, it's uh you know not the same thing as a threat from uh the leadership and uh you know from the Jewish theology, you know, God, the God of the Jews is the king of kings, and eventually the proper order will be restored to the world.
	Not not according to not according to Hindus and pagans and uh and even Christians to a degree, but uh well, obviously.
	I mean, we could enter faith if you want, but it's saying, like, yeah, I mean, that's what our religion says.
	If you want me to be an apologist and try to uh you know uh answer all these questions in a defense, like you know, how could you guys believe it?
	Or you just kind of want a historical understanding, like uh, you know, what is uh the Jewish religion about?
	What is what is it historically the Jews have believed?
	What is it that possibly Orthodox or more extreme Jews uh still believe today?
	And then you could look at it as Barry Rice uh right, should Jews abandon the historical belief and say, you know, what our ancestors believed was uh um you know beyond the pale and we have to adapt, or uh I want you to disavow your religion and your culture, Duvid.
	Can't you tell?
	Hold on, look at this.
	You you mentioned inner inner faith peace.
	Can you have the interfaith peace?
	Absolutely not.
	Absolutely not.
	It's not my rule, it's Kabbalah.
	It's Tala.
	So is that is that what you agree with?
	No, but that's a standard orthodox opinion, not just among Jews, that uh okay, do it interface and Duvid's more possibly closer to Freemasonry than uh your standard orthodox Judaism.
	You're closer to Freemasonry?
	What do you mean by that?
	I mean, because I enter faith, like Freemasonry that I'm willing to recognize um monotheistically that Judaism is just one true approach to uh the worship of God, and it's possible that other religions are true at the same time that Judaism is true,
	as opposed to you know, say a classical Jewish belief where no, not only do I believe Judaism is true, I reject that it's possible that any other religion could be true besides mine, and uh, you know, that's common among sex within all religion.
	Right.
	So you say, okay, that's if I'm if I refuse to say that Judaism is the only true religion, and I'm willing to accept the possibility that the same God who chose the Jewish people for this style of worship also chose different nations for different purposes, and uh you know revealed true prophets to them, uh that's not the standard orthodox opinion that would be all the prophets among the Gentiles are fake prophets.
	So I I gotta ask since you meant said you compared yourself to a Freemason, are you a Freemason?
	I'm not initiated, man.
	I didn't take any vows.
	It just means like the science of Freemasonry and accepting a greater monotheism that includes the God of the Jews among uh your various traditions.
	Would you uh agree that Judaism or I'm sorry, Freemasonry is all about like rebuilding Solomon's temple and is uh based on Kabbalah and basically kind of just Judaism for Gentiles?
	No, I don't think so.
	I mean, I think Freemasonry is the science of monotheism, And it attempts to uh bring together uh the good points from all of the traditions under a monotheistic uh spectrum, and now under like people understand Hinduism better, or like Buddhism's in the multiple paths uh to the truth or to the goal, could kind of see what Freemasonry uh was trying to attempt.
	So you're saying Kabbalah's good wisdom, they included it in Freemasonry, but they also included like Roman and Greek and Christian and Pan, anything that was a worthy form of practice is uh you know venerable within Freemasonry.
	Okay.
	You're doing okay, right?
	Um uh yeah, fine, no problem.
	All right.
	Okay, here we go.
	Um next.
	These are my favorite subjects.
	I know I was gonna say, uh, I'm enjoying this talk a lot.
	I I think the audience is as well, so um, I'm enjoying this.
	Let me know if uh I'm getting anything, you will, if I'm getting anything wrong, or if I'm being uh I'm being anti-Semitic, you know.
	Okay, here we go.
	So I mean that you're not you're not gonna get that from me, but you know, God forbid uh I can't control what uh Jewish institutions or other Jews think.
	Some Jewish guy on Leo Zagami, who's like always talking about the Jesuits, uh says that I want to exterminate the Jews, and that I'm a secret Jew, and that I admit it's just a total bold-faced liar.
	It's uh I definitely prefer talking with uh nice uh upfront gentlemen like yourself.
	So here we go.
	Isaiah 60 10 through 12.
	The sons of strayer okay, I read that one already, sorry.
	Isaiah 61, 5 and 6, and the strangers shall feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your ploughman and your vine dressers.
	So basically the Gentiles will be your servants and your slaves, but ye shall be named the priests of the Lord, men shall call you the ministers of our God, ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
	So eat the riches of the Gentiles.
	What Gentile in their right mind would not oppose that.
	If you were Gentile, would you oppose that?
	Well, you put in the greater context, and you're saying what I mean the greater concept, what it's saying is that the righteous will eventually prevail, and the wicked will eventually fall.
	And you know, saying the the verse doesn't necessarily mean like every single gentile, but it's saying like if you're a gentile and you're part of a nation that's largely wicked, um, your kingdom will eventually uh decline.
	Uh and if you were part of that greater kingdom, you might suffer the greater uh punishment of your kingdom.
	So you should turn to the side of righteousness.
	I mean, the message of these are relatively easy to interpret and fair.
	If you're looking on a you know messianic uh level where you're trying to show that like you know, you guys really believe eventually you guys are gonna be kings and we're gonna be slaves.
	And uh even if you could demonstrate that.
	Well, you say righteousness.
	You say this is only the if you're not a righteous Gentile, but to be a righteous Gentile means to basically basically serve the Jews as God's chosen people and help them fulfill their messianic uh ambitions and be a Noahide.
	So still either, and then the penalty if you don't is according to Maimonides and traditional thought is decapitation.
	And Chabad even says that it's permissible to lie if you're if it's for peace, and then the guy from the Temple Institute says that peace means basically conquering, and if you don't accept the Noahides, it's you know you will be conquered.
	I mean generally the differentiation between Christianity and Judaism, Judaism's a religion of practice, and Christianity is more a religion of belief.
	So as a Gentile, um your judge largely on your action, your righteous if you have righteous uh actions, and uh you know the how you interact with the Jewish people might play on uh your ultimate judgment, but largely your judgment of what makes you righteous is your interactions with your fellow humans and whether they're righteous or not,
	whether you're charitable, whether you're nice to people, whether you're just um you know, I don't I mean you might be able to read in a few more things into the Jewish prophecy than that, but I mean I don't that's certainly the basics.
	Okay, here we go.
	Here's the next one.
	They they don't get any, they don't get any easier, do it.
	Here we go.
	Isaiah 60, 16.
	Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and thou and shalt suck the breast of kings, and thou shalt know that I, the Lord am thy savior and thy redeemer, the mighty one of Jacob.
	Suck the milk of the Gentiles.
	That's kind of like the other one.
	What was it?
	Uh what was the it said something else about Gentiles so similar.
	Eat the riches of the Gentiles, suck the milk of the Gentiles.
	Like none of this sounds very good if you're a Gentile.
	Yeah, but I mean, you're kind of taking this out of context.
	I mean you didn't give me so do it.
	I don't think it's a good idea.
	You didn't give me the verses beforehand, but I mean saying that if you're looking at the time where Isaiah's likely writing in a time where Jews are kind of downtroddened and Gentiles are um you know risen, that the you know the Jews have been defeated and are in a bad position,
	and the Gentiles are in a position of power, and uh you know it's this is a consolation to the Jewish people that even though currently you're in a bad situation and these oppressors have power over you, eventually God will uh turn the tables in your favor,
	and and you know the metaphor of uh the milk of the Gentiles, meaning you know that uh you will be the inheritor of uh you're so to say the best of uh you know the Gentiles, like when the Jews left Egypt and we got to uh take the treasures of Egypt uh you know with us, so it's a you know common theme that's throughout the prophets that say you're like yes, you will be vindicated at the end of days.
	There will be a reward for you being faithful to God.
	Even if it appears at the current present time that uh you know the Gentiles seem to be rising and the Jews or or the righteous appear to be falling.
	You know, if I was Jewish, I think I'd rather uh suck the breast of the queens instead of the kings, but you know, that's just me.
	Come on, dude, that's funny.
	I'm trying to make you laugh.
	Yeah, I mean you didn't give me the if you had given me these verses beforehand, I I would have tried to look them up and uh but yeah, I don't have such a sense of humor like that.
	Okay.
	Uh where what was I gonna say?
	Okay, uh the message here is very common, it's basically like you do all the work and we make all the money.
	You're kind of saying, like, you know, like uh that you're gonna toil, but because you don't toil for righteousness, the fruits of your labor are eventually going to go to us, which could be you like, oh man, the usury and and uh your thinking, but that message throughout the Bible is uh always there where it's like you know, the the righteous, uh the evil toil uh for the benefit of themselves, but God through God's hands somehow gives the bounty of the wicked uh into the hands of the righteous.
	Okay, we will get to usury in a second, but uh I just remembered something else I wanted to bring up when we were showing that Barry Weiss clip where she talks about uh you know, the Jewish minority getting the powerful uh institution to do our bidding.
	I mean, isn't that exactly the story of Queen Esther and Purim?
	The queen was uh the the king, what was it?
	Hal uh forgive me.
	Who's who's the king, the Persian king in uh Shvarus?
	Achash be common Haman.
	No Human's the advisor that tries to convince King Akhajus, but yeah, I mean this is uh I mean if you want to point out all the inconsistencies in Barry Weiss um or you're just kind of you know, like God forbid, like um I don't know how she rose to be the spokesperson for combating anti-Semitism.
	Uh they didn't ask me on that decision.
	Well, let's not talk about her.
	Let's just talk about the queen of the story.
	It's it's a a Jewish woman close to power who has a lot of influence that gets the king to allow the Jews to slaughter his people because they you know, rise and kill first, supposedly they were gonna kill all the Jews.
	And um what disturbs me about this is that they're calling Ivanka's shul is calling her Esser.
	And if she's close to Trump, what is that gonna happen to Trump supporters and Americans?
	Also, they're comparing Trump to the king of the leader of Edom.
	I don't have that screenshot, but I got another rabbi that you know, would you agree that Edom is America or like European, Christian, the new Rome?
	Well Edom's the kingdom of the north, so you could you could interpret it as Edom is a bloodline, and you're trying to track some sort of bloodline, or you could just say Edom as uh Adam is uh the force that represents uh the West or the North.
	So if America's the most powerful force representing uh Western values, then by default, uh you know America is Edom.
	And oh it's Edom, not Edom.
	And um what happens to Edom in the Messianic Age?
	It's destroyed before the Moshiach comes, right?
	Or or when the Well, there's different verses, but but say eventually Edom it will appear like Edom and uh you know Edom is the descendants of Esau and uh and then you have the descendants of Yeshmael, uh which is you the largely understood like the division East and West or Christianity and Islam,
	and uh most uh biblical experts on prophecies say that it will appear that there's gonna be a battle between the East and West or North and South, which is you know, Christianity and Islam, and uh in the heat of the battle, that they will join forces and turn against Israel,
	and uh you know, miraculously uh the false Israel will be destroyed, and true Israel will uh you know miraculously somehow win the war, uh, you know, likely through the power of prayer or righteousness, and you know that's a combination of multiple verses across uh multiple prophets.
	But I think that's pretty much consensus from my understanding of the biblical prophecies that it's gonna be this false flag war between east and west, north and south, Islam, Christianity, however you do define these like two forces, and eventually those two forces are gonna say,
	let's stop fighting each other and team up and destroy Israel once and for all, and uh miraculously um somehow God will save the Jews, and you know, possibly there'll be a destruction of a false Israel before the revelizate revelation of the true Israel that gets saved.
	And you could be a Christian, a Jew, a chapadster, or uh, you know, even a Muslim and have varying forms of understanding this prophecy where you believe you're gonna be, you know, from the true Israel that is revealed and saved at the end of days.
	Like I told you, Abe Foxman, uh, when he dealt with Christians, Abe Foxman was baptized as a kid, you know, during the war, and uh you know, he said these Christians believe at the end of the day that uh you're gonna have to you know believe in Jesus or die.
	And so Abe Foxman was famous for saying, like, we'll renegotiate when we get there.
	That's what Netanyahu said as well when Bill Mayer asked him, he says, Well w we'll uh worry about that when the time comes.
	Well, that's probably what you'll you'll see that this week that you know Netanyahu is like, I don't care what these Christians believe, as long as they help me uh with my goals, yeah.
	And uh you know, just like Barry Weiss, you know, like uh that's the state of our leadership.
	You're like, I'm just a Jew from Detroit, I love Judaism and studying it and talking about it, but uh like I'm not Netanyahu, I'm not Barry Weiss.
	Um see why I'm concerned about this, they call Trump is the head of Edom, and then Edom is destroyed.
	Oh wait.
	Here it is, this one.
	Obadiah, what is that?
	Where is Obadiah at?
	That's not in the Bible, right?
	He's one of the um the twelve minor prophets that only have a few chapters.
	So is it in the Talmud or the Old It's not Old Testament, is it?
	It is Old Testament.
	Okay.
	Shows my uh knowledge.
	Here we go.
	This is what the Lord God says about Edom.
	We have heard a message from the Lord, a messenger has been sent among the nations saying, attack, let's go, attack Edom.
	You will be greatly hated by everybody.
	So Ivanka's Esther, Trump is the head of Edom, it's just it's not looking good for America or for um you know Europeans, Christianity.
	I think we discussed that.
	I mean, uh, you haven't you don't make too much of a big deal out of it, but I always know when politicians get sworn in and you get elected and they swear in on the Bible, and you make a note like you know, whose Bible do they swear in, what speech do they give, you know, like who holds the Bible, and you know, even like Steve Minuchin, you know, he was sworn in on a Christian Bible and his uh Scottish wife you know was holding the Bible.
	I think there were a few Jews like Sukulah, who is defending Trump as you know, official convert to uh um Christianity, so you know, with within uh your different schools of how you're gonna interpret the biblical prophecy in the role of Jews, but you know, all these politicians, even though they're not really theologians, when they get into office, they swear in on the Bible, and uh it influences the decisions they make, but they're not really biblical scholars.
	So if you're just kind of like pointing out uh that uh you know these world leaders and even leaders of uh Judaism are making like simple biblical mistakes, you like unfortunately you're like, yes, that's true, they're not biblical scholars, and they are making uh simple mistakes like in their interpretation of the prophecy.
	Hmm.
	Okay, um, and here let me do I just wanted to share this with you.
	This is the guy that was uh attacking me the other day and uh saying that I want to exterminate Jews, which is just straight slander and defamation.
	I've never said anything remotely like that.
	He calls Roseanne Queen Esther and uh the high priestess of heaven, and he's supporting Qannon and stuff.
	So uh okay, here back to back to these verses.
	There's only a couple more.
	So feeding off the riches of the Gentiles, sucking the milk of the Gentiles, this their seed shall be known among the Gentiles and their offspring among the people, all that see them shall acknowledge them that they are the seed which the Lord hath blessed.
	So if you're blessed, that kind of implies that the Gentiles are not blessed.
	I see that as supremacist as well.
	Zechariah.
	When we say in our prayer is like, I could give you more verses.
	I mean, so that every knee will bend, every knee will bend, every tongue will confess.
	So it's saying, like, yes, I do believe that like when God reveals himself and Messiah comes, like, yes, your knees will bend and your tongue will confess.
	That's what the prophet says.
	That's what our prayers say.
	That's uh, you know, at uh the heart of our uh belief in the religion.
	Okay.
	You're the apple of his eye.
	Uh it thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shall not borrow, and thou shall reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over the you know maybe I'm interpreting this wrong, but this this sounds to me like the so-called anti-Semitic trope that Jews are bankers that you'd use useury to enslave the Gentile nations and rule over them.
	I mean, isn't this a straight commandment for exactly that?
	No, I mean you're putting a pejorative slant.
	This is just the general language that the prophets in the Bible use that say the righteous will be rewarded, because like obviously it's better to be wealthy and never have to borrow and you could and this doesn't mean the this isn't the righteous, this is the the Jews, and I know people will say, Well, they're not the real Jews, they're not the real e Hebrew Israelites, you know, but uh that's that's a whole nother debate to be had, which I will maybe get your opinion on the case.
	Well, we're talking about the the scripture here is is talking about the incentive for obeying the Mosaic law.
	So God chooses the Jewish people, a peculiar people because God desires a certain type of worship that is given over to the Jewish people, and then you're saying, well, like, okay, I'm doing all these rituals and these services to God, and uh you know, okay, I should do it just because God created me, and even if God gave me no reward, I should desire to serve God.
	Uh, but God does promise at the same time that uh if someone uh you know serves God and follows the law, there will be extreme reward.
	So that you know you're just giving uh you know the plenitude of verses about the promise of reward for those who uh remain righteous and loyal to God.
	For the Jews, though, this isn't for the Gentiles, and then here here's you could interpret it.
	I'm gonna say if you're a Christian, uh you know, like obviously they believe that this is referring to themselves or any person who has any sort of religious belief or feel that they have some sort of special connection of God with God and is going against the grain in order to be loyal to God, could take inspiration from these verses.
	Well, Christians believe that they believe this is the old covenant and that this uh they believe in uh replacement theology, supersessionalism, but the Jews don't believe that.
	So that's like the what we said a few minutes ago that you know they'll they'll sort it out when the time comes.
	You know, I don't really want to let the temple be built and then have to uh leave it up to chance or whoever has the most power at that time.
	Yeah, I mean, because if you're a Jew, you figure like once the argument's within our own book, it has to lend an advantage to us.
	So it's like if you were a believing Christian and you're saying, No, at the end of the day is gonna be Jesus and it's gonna be the church, and and I'm like, No, it's gonna be the Jews, and you're arguing out of our own book, you know, saying that's like a home corn advantage that your average Jew is like, and I'm gonna win this debate if we're arguing out of our own texts.
	Okay, so it doesn't mean that as a Christian, you can't draw inspiration from this, and if you're reading kind of like nefarious, just the fact that Christians draw inspiration from this words, you know, it's like uh you should minimize kind of the nefarious intention, because the intention is just to inspire people to remain loyal to God in the way despite uh difficult times because eventually they'll be vindicated and rewarded by the Almighty.
	So that's that's I think that's the first time you've ever criticize me because you said that I'm looking at it too nefariously, correct?
	Yeah, as opposed to saying like uh as a method of inspiring people to remain loyal and uh stick to uh to the plan, and you say, oh, loyal to loyal to Jews and to your religion's uh your interpretation of the religion's plans.
	Well, Maimonides himself says that the Torah speaks largely like in the language of women and children, which is the language uh you know, not politically correct, but uh which he says is the language of reward and punishment.
	Righteous people don't make decisions based on reward and punishment, but your average person makes decisions based on reward and uh punishment, therefore the Torah speaks to the common man who is concerned about uh reward and punishment.
	You know, so the righteous person, if you said uh, you know, like this is what I need you to do, and they asked, Well, what do I get in return for that?
	And they said, like, well, nothing.
	You know, that your average person's not going to want to do it, only a righteous person would do it.
	Therefore, the Torah is constantly full of these reminders of you know, stick to the plan, be loyal, and eventually things are gonna work out for you.
	Hmm.
	So just uh okay, never mind.
	Uh I say uh you could read in, I'm not saying what you're saying isn't a legitimate critique, but I don't think that's the main message of these verses.
	And I'm not saying you're not asking legitimately good questions or making legitimately good critiques, but I think the main message of these verses is more what I'm saying than what you're saying.
	Okay, well, I don't I don't think these are easy, um easy verses to defend.
	So um let's uh here just a quick question I I came up with.
	Are you who are you gonna who do you want to win in 2020 for president?
	I don't vote.
	I'm I'm non political I didn't ask who you're voting for, I said who would you want to win?
	I'm I'm supporting Tulsi Gabard, you know, oddly, because I'm I'm more uh anti-war and I'm scared if if that's the right word to use about uh um corruption of power.
	So uh I I do actually see a path forward.
	I I think it's very possible that uh things could get shaken up in a way, and uh you know in our current system, I think actually Tulsi Gabard in many ways might be the most likely person to beat Trump.
	You know, if you're gonna vote for a woman, you vote somewhere like young and uh you well spoken, uh you know, athletic, healthy, and uh the popularity contest that is larger elections.
	Sounds like you have the hots for Tulsi a little bit, athletic.
	You like her, you like her body, huh, David?
	Oh, I don't know.
	Is that righteous?
	Um, no, I just said that she takes health seriously.
	Okay.
	And and and uh, you know, I I didn't uh I'm obviously she's a married woman, and uh uh, but uh no, I mean she's my pick, but I'm I'm not political.
	I'm I'm kind of down on the system in general.
	I'm more concerned about ideas and uh you know, mass spiritual enlightenment and don't have much faith that you know, politicians just like Jews are gonna Jew, so to say politicians are gonna politic and uh you know, the sum way that President Trump I kind of liked Trump because he was the most out of the box guy in 2016, so he's okay.
	I'll like the um you know the most uh different person.
	Why wouldn't you like him?
	I don't understand.
	I would think you would like him, because he's the one that's gonna help build the temple, and he's the one that's most pro-Israel, so why wouldn't you support him?
	Well, I mean, say if God wants the temple built, you know, saying the temple could be built under President Tulsi Gabbard also.
	She did speak at Koofy and uh took a photo with uh Maryam Adelson and Shmuli Botiak, you never know.
	And and I think it's more righteousness.
	So you're saying, like, I don't really buy the conspiracy.
	I think like you know that from a Judeo you know Kabbalistic perspective, so to say, if you push too hard for Messiah to come when it's not the proper time, it could cause disaster, and saying, like, you can't go to war to rebuild the temple.
	And if there's fanatics out there that uh somehow are looking at it like, you know, the temple must be rebuilt in my lifetime.
	I can't, you know, die without uh having made all attempts to rebuild the temple, and saying, like, you know, the Lababit Rebbe was like, well, no, like actually you have to do world peace, you have to uh spread the Noahide laws to all of humanity, and that has to come before building the temple.
	Uh you mentioned disasters with uh wannabe Moshiachs like uh Barkokba, the revolt got smashed and Zabota Zebi and Jacob Frank, and uh wasn't there.
	Barkok was probably the most applicable because you know he's military and saying, like, we're gonna fight, and then you know, ends up being a big slaughter of Jews and causing huge uh um oppression, you know, from the Romans, you know, as opposed to the later messiahs who uh you know weren't the same approach,
	you know, think like Netanyahu and Trump, uh, you know, Ghans, these are all extremely violent people, and uh, you know, they they are looking, you know, God forbid to probably use violence to enact their plans and like the Labavaj Rebbe, although he might have held right wing on politically correct uh positions, like you know, he wasn't a violent person, he was a man of education and good deeds.
	And uh Julian the apostate tried to rebuild the the temple in 363 and there was an earthquake or fire from the from the ground.
	I've heard those stories.
	That's a another example too.
	You your buddy E. Michael Jones uh wrote about that in his book.
	It's where I read that.
	Okay, let's move along because we still need to get to the big uh the the Showa a little bit, and we got 15 more minutes.
	Real quick, I wanted to get into this uh Moloch on display in Rome, which is a pagan god, right?
	But it's got the the star that's on the Israeli flag there, the star of Renphram.
	Where is it?
	Ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch and the star of your god Remphan, figures which he made to worship them, and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
	Rempham is uh where is it?
	Rempham also means Saturn, so like Saturn worship, black cube type stuff.
	And then here's Chabad's website, the tragic history of Moloch, child sacrifice.
	It says in ancient pagan societies and at time among the Jewish people as well, which kind of makes you wonder if they got the you know the star of David on Moloch, is that still is Moloch like the secret religion?
	And then hold on before you answer, Turkish security forces seize 700-year-old Torah manuscript.
	And if you look at the photos of this manuscript, it's like Illuminati Satanism stuff.
	Like this is uh Baphomet, and then there's the hexagon, there's the owl Moloch, the all-seeing eye, the I guess the line of Judah.
	What's your uh what do you have to say about here's the pentagram satanic looking star next to the menorah?
	Have you seen these?
	Uh yeah.
	I mean, and not these exact photos, but I've seen similar things.
	So um, oh, and here's one other thing.
	I don't know if you knew this.
	The secret life of a Satanist, Anton LeVay's son, he he was friends with Moshe Diane's son, you know, the famous Israeli general, and he says here, quote.
	Oh, where is it?
	Invitation, sh, wow, what okay, here it is.
	Uh he was a glowing about the book, the the book of Satan, agreed with everything in it.
	He said it was exactly the philosophy they practice were forced to practice in modern Israel.
	So is what's what's the deal with all this?
	It kind of looks like there's a link between like Satanism, Saturn, Moloch, and Judaism.
	Yeah, but I agree.
	I mean, the Bible says so itself.
	You're saying that the you know the we were just talking about you know uh God rewarding loyalty And the Jews who remain righteous to you know Hashem, uh Jehovah, as opposed to turning away to other false gods.
	So Moloch historically has been uh even Saturn or various uh idols have been big tests for Jews that you know, like okay, Jews could turn away from God and go to uh you know any any uh um method of rebelling against God, but there's patterned ways the Jews fall into when Jews turn away from God, and one of those you know has been historically the worship of Moloch, it's mentioned in the prophets and many points throughout uh Jewish history.
	I think even uh you know the prophets there was times where basically the whole kingdom, the king and and all the elites uh stopped worshipping God and were worshiping uh the you know these false gods.
	So from a spiritual perspective, uh you could look at these idols as representing certain historical or spiritual forces, and if you say these spiritual forces uh that uh we wrestled with in ancient times are the same spiritual forces that we're uh wrestling with today,
	and the you know, the deity names, the symbols, if you're the the you know, not necessarily Masonic symbols, uh Masonry could be maybe benevolent or nefarious, there could be different uh righteous or satanic interpretations of it, but you could see the symbols and you say that these are representing historical forces uh that have uh been able to overtake the Jewish people uh throughout our existence.
	So, yeah, uh okay.
	Well then uh, you know, I think it begs the question if we see this uh this is the symbol that's on the Israeli flag, does that mean that Israel is like the a false state and like the Bible says it's uh the synagogue of Satan?
	There are you know anti-Zionist Kabbalistic uh rabbis that would interpret it that way, or there there might be Christians who interpret it that way, and they could use these signs and symbols as somewhat of a proof of their statement, but it's not uh you know the mainstream Kabbalistic opinion.
	Um but you and you know, how much of a proof is it uh you know, these symbols, and and obviously uh you can't really understand the Bible prophecies.
	We don't know what's going to happen.
	The main thing to do is to repent and be as righteous to possi as possible.
	It's not like the you know the best course of action is to really study the biblical prophecies, therefore you're gonna know what's going to happen and be prepared.
	The best course of action is to surrender to God and attempt to be as righteous as possible in order that we'll be from the people who are saved.
	Wouldn't the um that that um view of Israel, wouldn't that be Rebbe and Chabad's view of Israel?
	Because technically they were anti-Zionist because they needed the Moshiach to lead the Jews back to Israel first, correct?
	No, I mean the Rebbe is kind of like Maimonides, where like talking like Satmer and Attoricarta, the extreme anti-Zionist that just looked at these people as idol worshipper, uh flawed people basically.
	Moloch worshippers I've heard that the Roth because the Rothschilds basically founded Israel, they got they their symbol was the hexagram.
	I've heard they're not real Jews, they're fake Jews, they're Sabbatine Francists, they're Jesuits, that kind of thing.
	What do you think about that?
	Are the Rothschilds fake Jews and actually Sabbateans?
	No, Sabbateans not actually Jews.
	Is it like a uh perversion of Judaism?
	I say they're Freemasons in all likelihood or history, and what they did was they amalgamated the best of the various traditions that were included in their Masonic branch.
	So they're Jews, they maintained their Judaism, but they also amalgam amalgamated together, you know, what would you so to say the best practices of uh Western culture that they mix together, so it's not pure Judaism.
	And uh that may include some satanic or evil things that you know it could include Aristotle and Plato and uh Illuminati, Adam Weissal.
	I've heard that too, that the Rothschilds funded Adam Weisop in the Illuminati.
	But it also includes idols and includes uh signs and symbols.
	So if you're you know a scientist and a reader of signs to interpret uh spiritual forces, that's more in the school that I am to interpret these events.
	There's like, yes, these signs and symbols have uh meaning, but in terms of like a pure scientific thing, like you know, how much could you read from just seeing the same uh signs and symbols uh from ancient times to uh modern day you know secret societies or uh political groups.
	Interesting.
	Okay, now um let's finish up with a little bit of uh the Holocaust.
	I mean, normally, you know, you can't talk about the Holocausts on YouTube.
	I I do want to get you on maybe for a whole show.
	I know you've researched uh a lot on the Holocaust, right?
	I assume on many of those books behind you.
	You're somewhat of the two whole shelves, I have two whole whole shelves on the Holocaust, and God forbid I've spoken to thousands of survivors and uh know quite a bit about it.
	Okay, I may have to get you on for like a D-Live bit shoot exclusive, so I don't get my channel taken down to talk about that on you know, and do like a full two hours on that with maybe with another guest, because I'm not uh an expert on on the topic, but I do want to play this for you, couple interesting things and then we will get to the entropies First of all, this is funny.
	Those who deny the Holocaust aim to encourage another one.
	What do you think of that?
	That was at the ADL.
	Those who deny the Holocaust aim to encourage another one.
	Is that not a non sequitur?
	It's just ridiculous.
	And I mean, God forbid, I remember I had a Jewish friend who really loved this guy, and and he like made me watch uh Borat.
	And like I I saw like that, you know, God forbid, like the I don't know, he does, you know, he he he gets uh like uh you know, like wrestles with that other guy and uh I was like that's what he's gonna be remembered for.
	Like the only thing I have a picture uh I don't know like how this guy gets to speak in uh you know, like I'm not gonna say he's an embarrassment to the Jewish people or something like that, but but like it's it's just mind boggling to me that uh this guy somehow was rising to be the spokesperson for Judaism.
	I know they couldn't have got a worst uh poster boy for it imaginable.
	He did a skit where he was uh Borat and he was stopping the Jews from voting Democrat by placing Bacon in front of them on the sidewalk going into the polling booth.
	And it's like he can do that and he can stereotype Arabs or whoever else, but then he's up here lecturing us all.
	And this idea that those who deny you know some aspects of the Holocaust want to have a real Holocaust, like if you just cause you deny something doesn't mean you want to genocide people.
	That's that's absurd.
	I would say even the opposite, that God forbid that it might be even the natural condition of someone to deny that because it's it's pretty anomalous.
	You know, like there's not uh too many things that happened, and you're saying that uh you know millions of people were involved in these horrible actions.
	So uh, you know, I I would almost say from your you know, if you took someone in China or India, you know, or or even to modern America that doesn't know much about history, and you start to explain that, it would probably sound fantastic to the point where a person would uh you know have to do a lot of research to start saying, wow, that you know maybe this really could have happened.
	Yeah, it's kind of hard to wrap your head around that type of evil and genocide uh being possible.
	Here, let's play another clip here from uh one of my favorite rabbis.
	Maybe I'll get Rabbi uh Reuven on one day.
	That would be something.
	Here we go.
	This is one of the biggest reasons of why he hated Jews on Hitler.
	Because they destroyed the economy because of their greed.
	Rabutai, it's not making them right.
	Don't let this uh confuse you.
	But this is happening again.
	And you'll see.
	Nobody listens to me, nobody listens to the Tawah, nobody listens to history, and everybody ignores it.
	This is gonna be a huge blow-up to the extent where you can see how a dome, just like the Tawa says a dome, it's gonna come back again, it don't become America.
	It don't become America.
	Why?
	Because it America is a dome, after all.
	But you'll see what happens, and you'll see that all of a sudden the six million Jews that are in America that feel comfortable, that are sometimes in government, that are sometimes in politics, that are running big businesses, and so on and so forth.
	Guess what?
	Same exact thing happened in Germany.
	We were in politics, we were in business, we were prospering, we were great.
	In Germany, same exact thing.
	In Greece, same thing.
	In Rome, same thing in Egypt, same thing.
	But guess what?
	We get greedy, we get sinful, we get become Reshaeim.
	What happened?
	Hashem says, Oh, you want to be the Shaim, I'll punish you with what?
	With the same goi that you want it to become like.
	And this Rabotah is what's happening under our noses.
	If you love Jews, you have to let people know this is going to bring an asson to Amisra.
	It's gonna bring a disaster to Amisel.
	It's gonna bring a disaster no different than the Holocaust.
	So what do you think about that?
	Well, I spent like ten years listening to rabbis like that, and it's more in line with uh my thinking, although your assimilated uh you know the accomplishments for the West and educationally wise was probably more done from you like assimilated uh Germanic Jews like Barry Weiss, you know, like you're not gonna find guys like Rabbi Ruvain in Harvard and Columbia, you're gonna find people like uh Barry Weiss.
	Um you know, the certain elements, yeah.
	The Talmud says that usury, you know, is uh is bad and will cause uh you know societies to turn against each other, and uh you know, you can have Jewish organizations that don't know what our own Talmud says, and the Talmud and the Torah, just like you know, the verses you chose that you know talked about uh hypothetically the reward that the righteous are gonna get at the end of the days,
	you probably could have pulled out quite a few verses that uh are the opposite and say, you know, God forbid the horrible punishment that we'll face if we're not righteous, if we're um not loyal.
	So you know, Rabbi Ruven's pretty typical of you know any orthodox rabbi, any person who takes the scripture and Talmud literally, because you know, like that's uh basically how our scripture speaks in terms of these like warnings and uh promises.
	Yeah, I've seen uh I've seen that um that view that this is punishment from God for falling away from the Torah or something, and they had to have this the the burnt sacrifice, the offering so that they could be redeemed and go back to Israel, which I will bring up Bjorkness's from Bjorkness's book about the the special uh number that's linked to Jematria, but just wanted to play one last clip here from uh Ernst Zundel saying the same thing as the rabbi.
	Because there is no anti-Semitism without Semitism, the one presupposes the other.
	Anti-Semitism only arises, and I'm not the one who invented that.
	Look at Theodore Herzl.
	You know, study Theodore Herzl's concept, you know.
	And every time when Jews were unhappy and wanted to have a place of their own and express themselves and so on, a reaction set in.
	Why not?
	They were the way they behaved, irritants.
	And so this is what that this is what anti-Semitism means.
	First there is Semitism, and then there's anti-Semitism, which of course is a misnomer because the Khazars of Eastern Europe are not Zemites, but nevertheless we're talking about.
	Okay, that's not actually the clip that I thought it was.
	But he basically the public media in Germany.
	You have all...
	Repeated in the United States.
	Repeated in the United States.
	...played the same...
	...pricious ethnocentrism...
	Sorry.
	Nobody has ever analyzed why the German nation that had more Nobel Prize winners and more famous researchers and scientists, and was one of the best educated countries in Europe, turn on the Jews.
	Why did these good Germans turn on the Jews who had more Jews living amongst them than even percentage-wise living in the United States today?
	Why was that?
	I'm sure.
	Jews never asked himself this question.
	I'm sure I get the answer from you now.
	Yeah, I can give you the answer.
	Because they displayed the same for racious ethnocentrism, power grabbing, influence peddling, buying of politicians, dominating of the public airwaves and the and the public media in Germany and so on, that they display in the United States.
	And I'm not much of a prophet, but that much I can say based on history, that in the United States, mark my word.
	You will have Weimar conditions, and you'll have solutions to the Weimar conditions.
	It will be very similar to what happened in Germany.
	You mean the final solution will uh will uh be uh you have it repeated in the United States?
	Whatever the Holocaust war, you've got one in your future.
	Really?
	That's right.
	Why?
	Okay, we'll we'll leave it there.
	Um pretty amazing that he says the same exact thing as uh the rabbi essentially.
	Wouldn't you agree?
	Well, no, because you're talking about, like I said, your wave of assimilated German Jewish immigrants that uh you know, so he's saying the same thing that an Orthodox rabbi says, but uh Orthodox he does not represent your average American Jew, you know, like Barry Weiss assimilated uh German Jewry, uh the legacy organizations that are around are representative of those beliefs.
	So even if you could find a rabbi that says the same thing, doesn't mean it's gonna be distasteful.
	And even if you demonstrated that to what you said is actually what our own religion or ancestors said, still doesn't mean it's not going to be distasteful to your average American Jew.
	Um but yeah, I mean that's why I'm talking with you.
	That's why I appreciate your work because you know essentially that's my understanding of World War II.
	Um, you know, it was God forbid it was an escalation of um group conflict of interest that uh you know the um Jewish groups and uh you know various groups uh you God forbid kept on escalating it and it came to disaster, and that's why okay, I'm supporting Tulsi Gabbard.
	I'm tired of escalating this stuff, and I don't think there's any way that this escalation is going to uh lead to anything uh positive, and it's upsetting to see um the approach of uh Jewish organizations that in my opinion are more escalating uh you know because it's this kind of dialogue and cultural exchange and legitimately understanding uh what are our group interests and where are we coming into conflict,
	and you know, can we chart out a uh future that is going to mutually benefit everybody?
	Yeah, um I would I would disagree with one point there.
	I don't think it's the assimil just the assimilated secular Jews.
	I do think that uh it's all like he talked about the virulent ethnocentric uh centrism, which is more of a uh a right wing Jew thing, I would I would say.
	So I think kind of both.
	He said the same thing as Orthodox rabbi.
	Uh-huh.
	Not to say that they're saying like he's there's no secular rabbi that's saying what Rabbi Ruven.
	You had to go online, and that Rabbi Ruben's not even from America.
	You know, you had to go online and find you know an ultra-orthodox rabbi from a different part of the world who's saying the same thing that you know Ernst Sundal said.
	Um that rabbi said he used to work on Wall Street, so he's that's pretty assimilated, or maybe it's not.
	No, it's not I mean there's plenty of Orthodox Jews who work on Wall Street.
	Um, have you read any of Ernst Zundel's uh books?
	What do you think of his uh his research?
	Are you are you team Zundel or team uh lip stack lipstash, whatever her lip stash?
	That's that's a funny name, right?
	Lips Lipstadt like I mean, she's I mean Barry Weiss is basically like uh Lippstadt's protege.
	Most of her talking points are Lipstadt points, and like no, I'm not a big fan.
	I mean, I'm not like a hater on Lippstadt uh, and it's more kind of just like, oh man, is that like the only person we have speaking up on our behalf?
	And then her points, like I completely disagree with just uh you know, almost all of your critiques of Barry Weiss.
	I essentially agreed with you, and it'd be the same with uh Deborah Lipsted, and then the same point where you know the ethnocentrism where she would be defending and working together with someone in the right wing and you know, punishing someone else that says the same thing.
	Um, like she I I guess she would just be blind to the hypocrisy or she wouldn't care.
	And uh so I I don't know what to say to that.
	Okay, so last question.
	Um you've read Bjorkness's books, I believe, at least one of them, and you know about this.
	Uh let me read from it.
	This is from one of John John Björkness's books.
	Uh where did the mystical figure six million come from?
	It came from the Bible and the book of Leviticus 2510, which states, you shall return from the cryptic new numerical message interpreted by Jewish scholars of the Hebrew Dumatria to mean you shall return minus six, minus six million Jews in the year 1948.
	And it became religious dogma shielded from public scrutiny by numerous laws in several nations, and there's a campaign to make it illegal, 73 years to preserve this exact number.
	Um I like I like to phrase it, kissing the six million ring.
	We can get deeper into this on another stream.
	We'll we'll get to the entropy chats.
	There's only a few and we'll wrap it up here.
	But do you what do you think of this six million figure?
	Yeah, I mean, Christopher said that at the end of your show, and I I have his book where he talks about that, and And there was, you know, you know, God forbid rabbis who predicted uh the Holocaust, and you know he's translating from a rabbi who I think said this, you know, decades or you know maybe close to a hundred years uh before the war.
	Um I ended up reading Jorkness's like whole 2500 page book on Einstein, like he gave me uh I guess it was free online somewhere.
	He's got a lot of research.
	That man knows a lot about Judaism.
	Rabbi Bjerkness is uh your uh nickname for him, right?
	Which I guess he takes as a compliment.
	It says I appreciate you having these dialogues and and saying like um it's better to recognize that uh you know conflict is possible and figure out what's the source of the conflict and uh you know you gotta cure the the disease, not the symptoms.
	And a lot of times that's what uh you know these organizations are trying to do, and you just look looking uh, you know, the disease is some form of group conflict, some sort of uh uh you know, Jews pushing for things in society as a collective that is getting a big backlash by larger society,
	and you know, the symptoms are you know, so to say, you know, uh rising anti-Semitism and violence, and so organizations just see like people like you and try to you know squash you from saying what you're saying and keep and escalate it as opposed to like like uh like immigration where you hit me the first time or Vince.
	It was like you're really uh like you Jews really do like support multiculturalism and immigration.
	I was like, well, yeah, obviously, um, you know, without necessarily thinking through uh the consequence of uh you guys are looking out for your best interests, and then we should be able to look out for our best interests and not become uh a hated minority that the Jewish dominated media is constantly you know smearing as the the as the root cause for all the evil in the world.
	Well, I'll take a look at the at least have open and nonestrows.
	Right, yeah.
	Um and then it just uh Bjorkness didn't come up with this, by the way.
	This is from Rabbi Benjamin Bleck, who wrote the book the his book, The Secrets of Hebrew Words, and he says, Ye shall return unto his possessions and ye shall return every man unto his family, and it's spelled incorrect, it's missing a six, so that's where that uh belief comes from there.
	Okay, we will do you're you're on board for a whole a whole uh Holocaust special, maybe uh someday soon, since it's the big uh 75-year anniversary right now.
	Yeah, and I I'd even do if you if you want to do kind of like on the dark web somewhere that YouTube's too dangerous, yeah.
	Do you want to bring it on someone else?
	Not quite the dark web, but it's deal not YouTube.
	All right.
	So do you believe did you answer though?
	Do you believe in the six million?
	Or do you do you agree that that's uh that's a tough thing to for for me to verify, like you know, God forbid I like I'm I'm pretty sure the Holocaust happened.
	Like I've read up a lot about you know the gas chambers and things like that that are um more difficult to uh prove.
	I was saying Yad Vishem has close to five million accounts of people that God forbid disappeared and died.
	Um so you the numbers.
	I've also seen people showing up and that were alive and saying, hey, my name's on here.
	So you know, but let's let's that's enough uh H talking.
	I could go through the you know the numbers, and someone who wanted to actually debate and uh you know, really get into that stuff.
	You're like, yeah, I mean we're probably better off doing that.
	We're not denying anything.
	We're not denying anything here, ADL.
	But it's not on the project should be discussed and debated, and for whatever current political reasons, um you're not gonna be able to do that in an open public forum.
	Which isn't that awful and and speak uh it's really indicative of that the truth shouldn't fear scrutiny.
	They say this is so crazy, and only lunatics believe this, and there's no evidence, so why all the laws to make it illegal to question it?
	Well, it's like JF uh, you know, Jean Franz Garepi, who I think you know uh originally referred to you uh media for the first show, uh you was talking about he thinks that the Google's shareholders, even though probably Sergi Brennan and the few people own you know the majority of shares or voting shares,
	Uh but the Google shareholders will rise up against YouTube and you know hopefully the Jews will recognize the strategy that our organizations are implementing and you know see that it's probably a poor strategy and enough of us will rise up or take the YouTube or action that uh it will cause you the larger Jewish community or institutions to change our strategy.
	And the way that they use the worm, like kind of like the term hate or they use deny as if you're just denying, you know, that any Jew suffered or that there was any kind type of uh you know, what's the word I'm looking for?
	Any type of uh innocence that was killed, you know, they they really try to lip lip stash really uh really uh is deceptive and disingenuous.
	Here, let's before we get to the super chats, or not super chats, entropy chats.
	Let me give uh everybody, I think Lipstadt's speaking at a local synagogue close to me, like a big one, and probably like hundreds and hundreds of Jews will pay like fifty dollars to hear her speak.
	So I'm saying like she is pretty indicative of uh mainstream uh Judaism.
	Well, I'd you know, I I that makes me think of Norman Finkelstein's book, The The Holocaust Industry and how much uh how it's a cash cow and uh you know.
	I'll I'll leave it at that.
	Duvid, thank uh we're not done.
	We still got a super chats.
	I think there's some questions for you, but just everybody follow Duvid for his hot takes.
	Here he is with uh our buddy Abe Foxman at the ADL and uh Reb at Reb Duvid with four O's.
	It I might do a post-stream and even just I I might even put the link in the chat.
	Uh I'll probably use stream yards if people want to talk more or just ask questions.
	So I'm gonna try to do a post-stream and uh I'll I'll even you know be willing to uh take people out of the chat onto the show who want to talk more.
	Okay, so yeah, um I don't know if you're in the chat right now, but go ahead and and uh you won't be able to drop the link in, actually.
	So uh send it to me on Skype, or people can just go, your channel's dovid with four O's.
	What is Duvid mean, by the way, or is that just a name?
	Duvid's just the Yiddish version of David uh Duvid.
	Uh you know, people would usually spell it D-U-V-I-D, uh, but because of uh you know, there's not that many dovids, but there's tens of thousands of Duvids, you know, like Hasidic Jews that pronounce their name Duvid, uh, that I ended up with the four O's uh because you know, like D U had already been taken, D O O had already been taken, so I I ended up with the four O's.
	And I had maybe had a few friends that would uh you know exaggerate and wouldn't just come like Duvid, they'd be like Duvid.
	Duvid.
	Okay, so uh let's let's be rapid fire with these uh questions and super chats.
	Real quick real quick, we have Red Pill says Kaaba is black cube, they are all over Kabbalah is the cube of Allah or Jehovah or Saturn.
	Stop feeding Saturn low vibrational Sauron Santa Saturn Satan all-seeing eye sees you when you're sleeping.
	Okay.
	Explain that I like universal symbols, you know, saying like that it should imply to more just than Judaism or things and would include things like Islam and uh India and and you know the belief that some symbols might have some sort of supernatural power to be universal.
	Okay.
	And it says, explain the rabbis uh the briss when they put the mouth on that switch.
	I don't believe is that even in the in the Talmud or written anywhere?
	I I don't I don't want to don't be too graphic because you know I don't this we're already pushing our luck with this video as it is, but also more on Saturn, Sabbat Sabbati means Saturn in Hebrew, Google Saturn Death Cult, Abrahamic Faiths, and Masons worship Demiurge.
	Please talk about Zabatai Zevi and your worship of the black cube of Saturn, six planet from the sun, sixth day of the week hexagon has all types of sixes encrypted it and encrypted in it, and Saturn has a hexagon on the North Pole.
	Yes, I've seen all the conspiracy uh stuff on Saturn.
	And uh Blanche TV says whose feast in the Middle East is her YouTube channel.
	How does Duvid see the future of Palestine?
	Does he reject an independent Palestinian state?
	Don't the majority of Israelis favor ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
	Yeah, unfortunately, like over fifty percent of Israelis poll favor expulsion of the Arabs.
	Um so you're like my my interpretations of kind of politics that things keep on following the status quo or kind of explosions of karma, like you know, you can't just do the wrong thing and get away for uh you forever.
	Eventually things are gonna uh push back, plus like the recognition of the extremists that uh are in power now, you know, what like Trump and Netanyahu and Adelson might be planning to do, what they might uh be capable of pulling off and getting away with.
	So I say we gotta wait and see, you know, to make a whole bunch of predictions, and I think it's gonna become crazy.
	I I've been predicting that you're gonna see Netanyahu and Trump campaigning together, and kind of like what you're saying is that you might see crazy promises, like you know, huge rallies where Trump brings out Netanyahu and Trump actually promises that if he gets re-elected, he'll he'll rebuild the third temple.
	It'll be the best temple ever.
	It's gonna be the most beautiful, best, way better than Solomon, way better than I can see.
	You know, even if Palestinians themselves don't have the power to organize and uh you know seek their own justice, uh you know, God will uh you God forbid revenge uh innocent blood, and if Palestinians are being uh um, you know, like I do believe that uh you know Jews can't get away, sin and get away with it, we can't oppress people and get away with it.
	Yeah, that's I've seen some rabbis take the more conservative approach, saying that oh, the Arabs will want to leave, so this is the Jewish state, and that you know, people will want to be Noah Hides and they'll want to help us build the temple and they'll want to serve us the the Yashir.
	I propose the hold on the Yeshiva rabbi says the Arabs want to be our slaves.
	I mean, this might matter for a different stream, and I talked about this many times before about you know saying we should give all Palestinians full Israeli citizenship and make Tel A V for like 10 million people, and that that's kind of my vision.
	There's not too many people saying that.
	Um but uh you know, I said join the afterstream if you want to talk more about that.
	Okay, and then there was one more we and then we will wrap it up.
	Has Duvid seen David Cole's documentary on Auschwitz?
	Have you seen David Cole's work?
	Okay, and uh we can get more into that on our uh stream for D Live, and they show the Zyg in the museum and the pellets, and yeah, I don't want to get into the specifics, that'll get my whole channel showed for sure.
	Save it for D Live and why do we always treat the symptoms instead of the cause?
	One why does one presuppose the other anti-Semitism and Sir Zundal?
	Okay, yeah, Zundal.
	Alright.
	Okay, what are we?
	Two hours, 17 minutes.
	Duvid, I appreciate you coming on so much.
	I really enjoyed the talk.
	Obviously, you know, we don't see things the same way and and uh have the same beliefs or agree on these things, but at least we can have a conversation, and uh I definitely you definitely know a lot about this stuff, and I can uh learn from you, and uh I think it's definitely beneficial for you, me, and uh all of us.
	Oh, yeah, Norman Finkelstein.
	You said the majority of people in Israel wants you know the Arabs gone.
	Finkelstein says Netanyahu is a supremacist, and the majority of people there are supremacists.
	Well, Finkelstein agrees with you.
	But uh any last words before we wrap it up?
	Yeah, I appreciate you hosting this, and like I came across you just because you're covering you know, because I follow this stuff, and you're you got one of the bigger channels covering these topics, and you know, it's really great that uh we're able to get into contact and uh share our information, and hopefully, for your audience, even if they're taking a different perspective,
	uh, you know, obviously than my perspective, they're going to uh understand the issues you better, and that will allow us to uh you know, hopefully minimize the group conflict and chart out some sort of uh solution that uh you know will benefit all people.
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	Okay, guys, I'm emptying.
	I just remembered that deposit the treasure chest for D Live.
	Everybody check out Duvid's afterstream, and thanks, Duvid, once again for coming on.
	I look forward to our uh future D Live exclusive on BitChute video where we will get into the the nuts and bolts and the gritty details of the most taboo controversial issue of our modern times, essentially.
	Alright, Duven.
	Uh wait, where are we?
	Here we go.
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