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Dec. 18, 2019 - Know More News - Adam Green
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Trump Impeachment & Dershowitz CSPAN | KMN LIVE feat. Greg
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
Adam Green here with no more news dot org.
Today is Thursday, December 19th, 2019.
And we are going to be talking latest news, including the impeachment, and some of the we got this article out today.
JUCU, the anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theories Surrounding Trump's impeachment.
And we're gonna be getting into Dershowitz's latest.
This is out of media.
Dershowitz questioned on C-Span in the hot seat caller on Epstein Defense, and also a call from guest to the show and my friend Jeremy Roth Cushell of the Antidote.
Jeremy couldn't make it today, but we got the next best thing.
Return guest and Jeremy's co-host at The Antidote on YouTube, joined by Mr. Greg McCarron.
Thanks for being here, Greg.
Greg.
Uh oh.
There we go.
Did you hear the intro?
No, I okay, I've taken my obviously the I'm gonna take my microphone out.
Is this good audio?
Yeah, we're good.
We can hear you.
Okay, cool.
If you need me to turn a fan off or anything, just let me know.
Okay, it sounds pretty good.
Uh I'll the chat let me know if uh there's any audio issues, but we seem to be good.
So thanks for joining me once again.
It's been uh you've been on the show a couple times, but it's been quite a while, so it's good to have you back.
Yeah, thank you.
Uh appreciate it.
I look forward to uh I look forward to discussing the uh content matter.
Right.
Well, I haven't been following the impeachments uh basically at all, so I believe you're a little bit more of uh uh uh investigated into some of this uh Russia Ukraine stuff that led to this impeachment, and you've been discussing some of this uh Juku uh narrative that we've been seeing and now is uh headline here out of Times of Israel.
So why don't we start with the impeachment just happened yesterday, it's probably gonna die in the Senate, but your uh your thoughts on it.
Well, I myself I'm not an expert.
I mean, I couldn't watch all of the I couldn't watch all of the impeachment coverage if I wanted to.
I mean, it's just but you know, I've had a chance, I've been in a lot of car rides lately.
I've had a chance to listen to uh more of the establishment Republican talk radio, Russell and Ball Sean Hannity types than I've uh than I've cared to, so I've gotten a pretty good idea of what the you know the GOP narrative on it is.
And to me, it's just my impression of this whole thing is that this hysteria over the nature of this uh phone call, the nature of who's the crook, Trump or Biden.
I think it's a smokescreen a lot of ways.
I think it's a I think it is actually limiting, serving to limit the scope of the what appears to be the actual roots of what would be an actual impeachment inquiry, which is the relationship of uh of Donald Trump.
Uh and many people around him, Rudy Giuliani, for example, uh Paul Manafort, who of course is now disgraced as he was uh caught up in all this, and their relationships with this uh very you know based out of the former Soviet Union um global organized crime Zionist intersection of business and organized crime, I guess you could call it syndicate that has so much influence um, I think in so many areas of our lives, and I think that this is the center of it.
And instead I see the scope of discourse as being very limited.
That's my you know that's my basic take on it.
Well, I agree.
So the the wouldn't you say kind of all of this talk for the last three years now of Russian collusion is sort of a limited hangout because they're focusing all just on Russia and ignoring kind of the the bigger Koshenostra Russia Israeli Zionist uh cabal that really we should be um investigating.
Absolutely.
I could uh I absolutely agree with that.
And I think it's very largely by design.
And that's why I find it funny that so many people, not just in like the the um conservative establishment uh Fox News, Rush Limbaugh uh sphere of influence are all are all so caught up in this like it's a literal like uh like it's a literal um attempt like a persecution a witch hunt uh to destroy the president but I mean so much of the alternative media as we're going to get into seems to be in that very same uh line of thinking and I think to me it's this
is not an investigation it's actually designed to hold Trump or especially not the people in the larger picture of this whole uh um decades long uh events that have been going on um accountable for anything so I find it interesting that I see it as a complete limited uh limited investigation while so many people are just seeing this is like the literal uh be all end all of like witch hunts and persecution people who I think should know better to be honest in my opinion.
Well you know Trump I think Trump should be impeached you know not because of this Zelensky phone call which finally brought him down but just because he's betrayed America for for Zion and this executive order and all of these uh you know unilateral moves that he's g doing to give goodies to uh Netanyahu and to Israel but I mean there's no doubt Biden is corrupt over there in Ukraine.
The Democrats are all corrupt and and controlled by a lot of the same Zionist powers at Trump I covered the Zelinski call and what I thought was most interesting, you may have picked up on this too is the transcript said that Trump's told him something like, you know, we got friends.
You I I'm surrounded by nothing but your friends and then we got Chabad surrounding both of them so I was wondering if that was kind of a nod to this you know uh Cohen uh Felix Seder, Chabad Lubovich uh cult that's surrounding both of these uh powerful world leaders and Putin as well.
It's very possible and I would even add on um somebody like uh and I I'd have to go look up exactly what his connections to Chabad would be but I um I would imagine they're certainly there.
Uh Leonard Blavotnik I'd mention him in there as well and there's been a lot of money that's been coming in from a couple of uh and I know someone like Ryan Dawson would argue this all day and all night and would deny and say they're not Russian oligarchs, but from what we see is uh you know what um appear to be you know what would be classified as Russian oligarchs in particular Len Blavotnik and Oleg Deropska and all of the connections they have is basically it seems um very close to the uh bigger Mogolevich uh crime uh
organized crime business syndicate operating out of this former Soviet Union and their financial contributions to members of the Republican Party particularly in the Senate through people such as Lindsey Graham and uh Mitch McConnell and also uh Congressman Kevin McCarthy who three years ago was on audio joking about Trump and then former Congressman Dana Rohrabacher being owned by Putin it was a joke quote unquote that was on a hot cam.
But now with all of this Blavatnik-Daraposka money, people can go look up Oleg Daraposka's financial endeavors in Kentucky in terms of the building of an aluminum plant that would very much be to the benefit of Senator Mitch McConnell, who's now like – along with Lindsey Graham is Trump's foremost Senate defender right now.
And so those are a couple other names to consider in relationship to this, what you just described there with the whole Habad, Russia, Israel, Putin, Netanyahu – so w would you say you know we hear we hear so much from uh the Trump supporting side that Russian collusion is a conspiracy theory that there's nothing there and that they're they're grasping at straws.
W what's your your thoughts on that?
Well I think there certainly is something there but I think it's um I think it's um I think it's a matter of understanding the long term history of Donald Trump as it goes back all the way to his uh to his the relationships of him and his father and uh the relationship of people like Roy Cohn and basically and then also what uh Michael Collins Piper reported on.
I think he was one of the foremost people to report on Donald Trump's uh acquisition of the resorts um in tr the remnants of the resorts international empire which was the uh which was a large part or the large part of uh the rise of uh Trump's influence in um In the casino industry,
and of course, casinos along with real estate, which is Trump's other uh major business endeavor over the decades, are just such conduits for things like money laundering and all sorts of illegal uh financial um transfers and activities going on.
I think a long-term history of uh Donald Trump's um who he is, what he what he represents, these relationships he's had, and then even obviously more recent with the uh I would take the reporting of the um of the executive intelligence review, which was the uh publishing arm of the Lyndon LaRouche uh pack,
which now of course is completely just gone into a completely pro-Trump, just poo-pooing anything that points to any type of uh wrongdoing on behalf of Trump or anybody affiliated with him.
This combination of this long-term history that I think um and we'll talk about this probably as we go on.
Jeremy, uh my co-host called into uh see in uh MSNB, excuse me, sorry, C-Span, and uh confronted Alan Dershwitz, and he mentioned a couple of uh a couple of books.
One of the books he mentioned was uh Craig Unger's book, House of Trump, House of Putin.
Also mentioned uh the late uh Robert Friedman's book, Red Mafia, and the two books by uh Seth Abramson, Proof of Conspiracy and Proof of Collusion, which I think are very I think are very good summaries for people who are looking for a combination of the long-term history of this uh Trump,
you know, Russian Soviet global Zionist mafia, as well as the reasons why many different many um governments, uh a number of countries globally all benefited from a Donald Trump victory and all basically worked to make it happen, and have been working directly and indirectly ever since on various uh geopolitical matters.
Interesting.
So, in regards to the impeachments, um, you know, people ask me this question: why are the Democrats and why is the media so after Trump over this Russian collusion if he's if he's the Zionist agents, you know, like I say he is, if he's the Zionist pawn, and both sides are controlled by the Zionist, why are they trying to impeach Trump?
Do you have uh a good answer for that?
I think it's honestly well, I I can't say for sure because I I don't know for sure, but it just appears to me that the scope of this is very limited in general, as I think the scope of the conversation surrounding all things Trump has been very um limited from the beginning.
I mean, for example, there are people who still see uh CNN, for example, as the primary enemy of Donald Trump, and myself and Jeremy would argue, and we have argued, that CNN has actually been one of Trump's uh has actually really been has been very beneficial to Trump.
Certainly during the campaign, I would say so still say now, in terms of limiting the scope of this uh investigation and their reporters just come off as so over the top in a way that they can't possibly be taken seriously by a large portion of the population in terms of what they say.
But my my hunch is that at this point is that it seems to me that um at the if anything's going to happen, it appears that perhaps Donald Trump is going to be impeached, removed from office.
But at this point, I see that if it does happen as being a as being something that is going to be a cover for much larger things going on.
Well, I've already I did a video when the impeachment first uh really kicked into serious high gear.
I did a video with uh Christopher John Bjorkness, and we were we were speculating that if Trump gets impeached, uh Pence will get in, and then because Kushner helped Pence become vice president, and Kushner's so involved with all you know handling everything in the White House essentially that he'll become vice president, and then we got Kushner, you know, just one position away from being uh president, but you know, that's probably a long shot, but that was you know my mind, my uh rationale thinking.
This is what I see with this uh impeachment and just the whole Russian collusion collusion story.
The left is all focusing on Russia while ignoring the Israeli element, and then because the left is going after Russia, it forces the right to ignore the Russian aspect.
And they love Israel and are all you know, worship Zionism.
So they're able to get away with all of it, and then we're not having any type of real uh real uh debate, honest investigation into what's happening?
You kind of see that paradigm happening as well, that dialectic.
I certainly can, and uh and I would personally I'm more of the belief that uh there's more even in uh there's more there are more common threads binding together, even like the obvious um pro-Israel uh Zionist right outlets.
Obviously, Breitbart comes to mind, and um pretty much all of the major Fox News commentators and Rush Limbaugh and all those.
Info wars as well.
Yes, um, they're very clearly in the Zionist or also uh Tucker Carlson, who's even seen by like even a lot of people in the alt media as being like pro-Russia, and that makes him a heroic figure to a lot of people.
You know, he's still very much in that Zionist uh milieu, and they're all repeating the same talking points on this um impeachment narrative and all things related to to Trump.
And I would I would argue personally that the ties that bind the Israeli and Russian angles of this whole uh global, the bigger global geopolitical picture are much more than I think a lot of people, a lot of other people think, and I can under and there's certainly room to have a conversation about that.
But yeah, I think that there are the way that the Democrat establishment in particular and the people um who are leading this investigation, this circus like uh Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi and people like that are bare I they're definitely pr promoting this in a way that just causes people to I mean,
for example, uh there was a big old uh there was a big old fuss in the uh House yesterday over um Congressman uh Louis Gomer, who is a extreme uh just big time Zionist chill in Congress and the Republican Party, and um he was uh he made a statement and then um Gerald Nadler condemned it as Russian propaganda and that started an argument on the floor of the house that was pretty uh it's pretty wild uh looked pretty wild from what I saw of
it.
But you know, that kind of talking point, and it's instead of trying to really lay the realistic, I think, real in terms of a realistic type of uh nuanced conversation about the nature of the relationship, say between Russia and Israel and the relationship and the importance of bringing this global organized crime syndicate into the picture that's been left out of so much of this,
and it's probably the reason why people like Rudy Giuliani are up to their eyeballs in this whole uh in this whole Ukraine drama at the end of the day, ultimately.
But by not bringing these important factors into the picture and instead continuing to promote this cartoonish uh Cold War caricature of Russia, the evil boogeyman, and a very just very it's and it's honestly that goes back, we can thank Roy Cohn for that in large part through the uh McCarthy circus of the 50s as being the roots of a lot of this,
but just the very cartoonish uh and Elm the way that this is covered, I think, just does cause people to go into a lot of boxes where, well, we have to defend, we have to defend this or that, and we have to defend Russia, and I can sympathize with a lot of people in the alt media who still tend to be very pro-Russian to an extent in that there these these issues have not even begun to be ironed out, I don't think, in a nuanced manner, and hardly any media platforms are outlets.
So what do you think of the uh this Jew coup I idea that it's uh that it's Jews trying to get Trump out?
Like so it's it's the secular Zionist faction of communist Jews that want to get the religious right-wing Jews out because I guess I don't know, they think Trump's pushing too far, he's he's overplaying the hand, he's making them look bad.
Uh what what's your take on this?
Um I've seen you've been doing on your channel, you've been doing some uh analysis on this juku uh narrative.
What's your take on that?
Well, I think a lot of it, um, the idea of um various factions are competing against each other.
I mean, that's been you know, that's something that we've we've talked about for a long time.
You uh Jeremy and I we've talked about what we see as the uh the reason why the Republican Party, why the conservative movement, the neocons in particular, are so split over Trump is that this is a part of a bigger a bigger war at um going on at the heart of the you know within the Republican movement, but also even uh getting into the bigger picture of the um of the Jewish question.
And I think it goes a lot of it this I think the roots of this actually go back to um I'm sure you're familiar with this uh with this Adam, the article that uh Winston Churchill wrote in the early 1920s, uh, Zionism versus Bolshevism, a battle for the soul of the uh I believe that was the title.
I'm paraphrasing here Battle for the Soul of the Jewish people, where Churchill very much came out on the on the Zionist side of things, which is probably why he's such a hero to like everybody in like the Breitbart MillieU conservative movement, all of that.
But I think this I think the history of this kind of goes back to that, and yes, there very clearly is a divide in the uh in the certainly within the Jewish uh power structure with the very disproportionate um Jewish influence that is a reality in basically all areas of uh power and influence in our society.
So I think that is a very real I think that is a very real thing, and I guess as we get into this, I can explain both where I can agree and where I have some issues with the particular characterization of the uh effort against Trump as a Juku.
So let's get into it.
Yeah, why why are they coming after Trump?
Trump is their guy, he's gonna help them build the temple.
He's he's giving Israel all the goodies.
Is it just the left wants to be in power and do it their way, or what do you think?
What do you think?
Well, I think a lot of people on the left, I think even like the even the very obvious uh pro-Israel uh left, people such are Democrat establishments, people such as Adam Schiff, Gerald Nadler.
I mean, Adam Schiff posted a photo, I believe it was a uh was it a Hanukkah photo?
I forget what it was, but Adam Schiff posted a photo where like his uh one of his nephews is wearing a Mossad t-shirt.
So very clearly these people are very much um and uh Gerald Nadler's obviously very much a you got the picture up right there, very much a Zionist.
Oh, Father's Day, there it is.
That's the photo of um I believe that is his son actually wearing the uh he's busting a little uh Shalom Tommy Robinson there with his uh massage shirt on.
Yes, for sure.
But um and even these uh very obviously pro-Israel Democrats like P like Adam Schiff and I would characterize them as being even as pro-Israel as they are, they're not at the end of the day.
I don't see them I don't really see a lot of evidence of them being down with a lot of the really extreme, more religious-based uh interpretations of Zionism and the more extreme the obvious uh heavy-handed pro-Israel policies that have been going on under Trump, such as the recognition of the embassy in Jerusalem, Galan Heights, and the unlimited settlement building, and now the law basically making uh criticism of Israel illegal on college campuses and all of the obvious um problems that's going to cause with it.
So I and we've even we've even distinguished um support of Israel.
I think that a lot of these uh members of the Democrat establishment, and even some of the neocons, they are very much pro-Israel, but it's in terms of an Israel that is in line with a strong um I don't know if the term would be globalist, a strong kind of uh post-World War II world order, what George H. W. Bush talked about of a strong US and a strong Europe and the facade of democracy,
but an Israel that is ultimately in line with like the goals of a quote unquote democratic West, whereas this very much this pro-Trump strain that is uh really come to take power, I would say, in the last uh several years in particular,
just does not care about the facade of human rights and democracy or about the and I think they have a vested interest in seeing the current American European uh more what you might call liberal institutions actually weakened and ultimately destroyed.
So I think that is a big part of the difference here, and I think when we talk about this, I think that a lot of the you know the Jewish uh Zionist power on the left or within the Democrat establishment, I'm kind of wary of using the term left, because I don't think people like Adam Schiff are really what we call left, but I think that they're very wary of the moves of this a combination probably of a fear of uh based on their own interpretations of Judaism of this closeness with uh the you know the evangelical Christian movement is fake and phony as it uh as it is,
and they I think they see a fear of that, but they also see that the um they're those who they're beholden to, their benefactors are very much um want to see a strong US, European, strong West is kind of the global leaders in terms of a democra like quote unquote democratic world order, whereas those who are behind Trump right now just have no bones or no have no issue absolutely destroying that.
Interesting.
So you want to uh start with play the Dershowitz call that Jeremy did yesterday, and then you can uh we'll pause and elaborate and you can uh we can add on and take it from there.
Yeah, let's do it.
Okay.
So here it is.
This was on C SPAN yesterday, I believe, or maybe the day before, Derschwitz on C SPAN December 16th, and I have it over here here.
You could tell Dershowitz was uh getting a little uncomfortable when Jeremy was mentioning these books.
Kansas.
And to the uh caller after there's a caller who called after uh Jeremy and followed up by basically uh portray, you know, calling Derschwitz a victim and then just bringing up how he uh, you know, uh if uh Dershowitz knows that Trump is as bad for America as uh Epstein was for little children, are really putting up uh Derschwitz on the defensive about his defense of uh Epstein in terms of his crimes against children and the underage, and uh Dershowitz was very noticeably uncomfortable during that call as well.
So credit to the caller after that, who interestingly enough came from New Mexico, which is an interesting place to call uh Dershowitz about Epstein knowing all the Epstein connections to New Mexico.
So I didn't think about that.
That is interesting.
Okay, here we go.
Thank you for taking my call.
Uh, in terms of understanding this current political moment and the apparent level of criminality that we're dealing with.
I'd like to quickly bring up some books, the authors and content of which C-SPAN should seriously consider featuring as especially in relation.
Just a little freeze there.
...to featuring a guest like Alan Dersheritz and his background and personal commitments.
Number one, House of Trump, House of Putin, the untold story of Donald Trump and the Russian mafia by Craig Unger.
I can tell right there, he kind of took a bit big breath in as soon as he heard Trump and Putin, and you could tell he's trying to keep a really straight poker face during this, wouldn't you say?
Yeah, I didn't notice it before, but definitely now.
And uh it's interesting.
Um he's gonna mention Seth Abramson.
Seth Abramson was one of uh Alan Dershowitz's uh former students for what that's worth.
Okay.
Gives the background of the Trump organization as a money laundering organization that fits into the actual Russian deep state, i.e.
national security apparatus tied into organized crime.
Number two, Red Mafia, how the Russian mob has invaded America by deciding.
I can see that one really making uh Alan Dershowitz uncomfortable.
Why is he calling this might be a stupid question, but why doesn't he call it Mafia?
Why is it Mafia?
That's uh you know I don't know the answer to that.
Jeremy will have to uh let us know next time.
Yeah, I mean maybe he's explained it, I'm not sure, but uh that's a good question.
I know I know this book is spelled M A F I A, so I'm not sure though.
Maybe that's the Russian way to say it or something.
Okay.
The set of books, Proof of Collusion, how Trump Betrayed America, and now proof of conspiracy, how Trump's international collusion is threatening American democracy by Seth Abramson.
And then finally, I would ask Mr. Dershowitz to also address the uh fake smile.
That's definitely an uncomfortable fake smile right there.
And I can notice a little muscle in his face here is twitching.
No, it reminds me of uh you know what it reminds me of, Adam.
There was a call in to uh Bill Crystal on C-SPAN a number of years ago, and it was just a caller absolutely ripping Bill Crystal apart about his uh support for the Iraq war and all the you know, all of the suffering of uh that is taking place since uh as a result of that disastrous war, and Crystal's just kind of stand there with this kind of the spake smirk on his face, like you know, I care about what you're saying, and uh you but it's like it's obvious like he was just extremely not happy with it.
You know, I first heard about this Dershowitz C-SPAN appearance because Whitney Webb was uh tweeting around that she heard that her her name got brought up.
She was happy about that.
And I just gotta, you know, say Jeremy does such a great job of calling into shows like this.
He's he's called into InfoWars and really dropped a whole bunch of truth early on when Trump first got in.
And uh you've called in as well, and I did this a couple months ago, and uh I tried to top you guys by calling him a traitor to his face.
But Jeremy also goes out and uh was questioning a bunch of politicians in in real life about the Israeli tech transfer.
He even got uh what's her name, Gabbard to run away from him, right?
That was in Iowa several months ago.
Yeah, we've uh we've been hitting up some of the uh camp of camp campaign events we've had a chance to for the Democratic primaries.
We're hoping to make it up there more as we get close to closer to the Iowa caucus, so look forward to that.
Yeah, you're lucky you're in a a state that uh they actually come and campaign at, unlike California.
California is not a big deal in terms of primaries, which you would think would not be the case, but okay here we go.
A topic of uh Zev Shelev at Narrative, the Israeli born former CBS news executive producer and Whitney Webb, who have reported that uh Jeffrey Epstein was being run by Israeli military intelligence as uh disclosed by uh Ari Ben Manasha and the uh allegations in the book Robert Maxwell Israel Superspy that the Julane Maxwell's father,
Robert Maxwell was a KGB and Israeli intelligence agent who worked with the Red Mafia and Mogolevich to set up uh money laundering instruments around the world.
So Mr. Durst so um could you elaborate on that a little bit because this is something I I you know everybody's heard that uh Robert Maxwell was a Mossad agent but he also was working with the KGB as well and and I've heard that when he was killed by Mossad allegedly it was because he was going to leave them and go work with the KGB or something like that.
Is that right?
I believe so, and I believe what Jeremy is referring to came out of the book that he mentioned, Gordon Thomas, now deceased Gordon Thomas, Israel's super spy.
And there's a mystery over – there's a debate over who Robert Maxwell served.
Once Ryan Dawson completely just dismisses the idea of Maxwell having a KGB as well as Mossad ties.
But I think a big key to that would be the history of Maxwell and that Maxwell was – you can go back to the – it appears to me that Maxwell may have been a triple agent ultimately of Britain, the Soviet – Russia – excuse me, Israel and the Soviet Union.
But even going back into Maxwell's history in the late 40s during the fight for – Israel was fighting its war to establish the state of Israel.
And Robert Maxwell was a big player in the eastern bloc via Czechoslovakia in terms of smuggling arms and giving weapons to the Israelis.
And that – or to the – to the then not – it wasn't yet established as the modern-day state of Israel.
But Maxwell played a big role in that whole drama in the late 40s.
And that becomes an interesting question not only with the obvious Jewish support for the – for that war in 1947-48.
But even the – you know, the Soviet factor becomes very interesting in terms of that.
And Stalin recognized the state of Israel just as quickly as Truman did.
And then that gets into some of the things that you've discussed with people like – well I guess he's not exactly a friend of yours.
Um I'll mention his name here not at all not at all no mention you don't mention agents like that.
He called me a Mark he called me a Marxist not too long ago by the way right but we can talk about it's the Israel by back door like Jack Bernstein or what's the other yes yes Jack Bernstein's another great example.
But within that strain of conversation of the what increasingly I think from a deep perspective I'm not I'm not willing to say any of this is fact because I don't think it would be possible to like prove is fact at this point in time.
I don't know if it would be, but it would take a lot more to come out.
But I think it makes sense if you look at the long-term history of many of these Arab countries as perhaps just being financed and backed by the Soviet Union and nowadays by Russia.
But to the point that, well, really nothing ever really seems to happen that actually seems to bring Israel under check too much.
So there's a long-term history there with Maxwell.
And I think that kind of history is important as far as bringing in a possible KGB as well as Mossad element to his.
And then even the Pollard case with the Soviet intrigue surrounding Jonathan Pollard as well as the Israeli son.
Right.
Well, there's no question that the state of Israel was a bunch of Russian Jews that were Soviets and Bolsheviks that started it.
So and then they got the West to side up with them and then the Soviet Union.
And still to this day, Putin is, you know, supposedly supporting Syria and.
Iran which Dershowitz is going to mention here in a second.
So it kind of seems like they're playing both sides and that they're kind of um draining the West by our support with Israel making the world hate us for our support and you know getting us into these wars, weakening us from the inside it really is like using religion as a backdoor to take over America via all the Christians and and Jack Bernstein I'm gonna do a video on this soon his book I'm gonna butcher the title but something like uh a Soviets in racist Israel or
something like that.
It talks about this uh pact it's an American Jew in racist Marxist Israel.
Is that what it was the title of it was?
I yeah I believe that's it.
But they have this pact that the Soviet Union had with Israel when they were first started and uh it's interesting.
We're gonna dig deeper into that.
I'm I'm not an expert but I'm uh I'm trying to learn but let's uh let's carry on here with uh Dershowitz.
Derschwitz your background in defending uh Pollard and and then Epstein suggest that you might be an agent of uh a Russian Israeli access so I'd ask you to attack check out Dershowitz.
Yeah, yeah.
I love that Jeremy just called into C-SPAN and basically accused Dershowitz of being a KGB Mossad agent.
And he laughs it off, but it's like when you're Epstein's lawyer, when you helped get the dancing Israelis home, when you helped Chabad Rubishkin get pardoned, when Pollard, he worked with Pollard as well, it's like he's always on PragerU doing all these pro-Israel stuff.
this may be entirely unrelated but Dershowitz was also for a time part of uh Julian Assange WikiLeaks is uh legal defense team as well really I didn't know that yeah as of uh 2011 and I know just as recently as earlier this year I know Dershowitz did an interview on an RT program.
I believe it was a program titled Going Underground, which is aired on RT, where he came out big time in defense of Assange and WikiLeaks.
So take that for what it's worth considering all the WikiLeaks intrigue with the 2016 election drama and the service that it really did at the end of the day for Trump as opposed to Hillary Clinton.
And he was just on stage with Trump signing the executive order to ban criticism of Israel and Jews on campuses.
At the Hanukkah party where Mark Levin called him the first.
Jewish president.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's that from and from a Jewish American patriot of conscience perspective that's me.
Okay.
I love I love how Jeremy had to throw out there that he's Jewish so he Dershowitz is like ah I can't call him an anti Semite.
I guess that won't work right that's just paranoid uh uh drivel the paranoid drivel so it it's paranoid he works for Epstein he got his massage with his underwear on from a 50 year old but it's just paranoid dribble to suggest that he might be working for uh a foreign power.
And there's even, I'll say this real quick with the topic of Virginia Roberts, you know, he swears that there's nothing going on there.
And he even claimed one time that Virginia Roberts got him confused with another frequent tenant or hanger out of Epstein, a man by the name of, I believe his name's Nathan Mirvold, and he was an executive at Microsoft.
So he's even claimed that Virginia Roberts had confused him with another man, and I'm um I mean you I you can go back and find interviews I think even as mainstream as uh the Fox Business Channel of um Dershowitz um back in 2015 or 16 when the Virginia Roberts story was making some rumblings in the media and he was uh he was very very nasty towards it in some mainstream interviews even we'll have to uh I'll have to pull some of those up and uh and send them your way and listen to them if I can find them.
But now, you know, Dershowitz plays the defense of, well, I had nothing to do with this.
I didn't know that girl.
She's just lying about me.
And that's his justification for trying to have stories about it killed in the media that mentioned his name.
Right, yeah.
It's definitely not looking good for him.
And the way that, you know, I've covered this when the Epstein story was breaking a couple months ago.
His little proxies, who we believe are his proxies, like guys at Breitbart and Mike Cernovich that got involved with the case to unsealed.
the victim's identity so that they could go after them and smear them and try to discredit them and stuff.
And interestingly I'll just throw this name out there interestingly the person who kind of was uh was positioned as exposing the people like uh Mike Cernovich for their defense of uh of Dershowitz one of the people who was at the forefront of exposing that was uh Lee Stranah former Breitbart uh writer who now um hosts the program on on Sputnik, the Russian uh the Russian media channel Sputnik, and it's kind of interesting that Stranah was there as the um I'm just throwing this out as a little bit of a caveat.
It's interesting he was there to kind of be the person to counter the Cernovich uh narrative on um he wasn't the first.
He wasn't the first.
I know I'm sure you guys, and I know uh who was it?
Uh Titus Frost has been real on the Cernovich uh element of it from from early on.
And uh but I do like seeing uh Stranahan going after Cernovich and uh Posobjak, and he's even been calling out uh Steve Bannon a lot recently, too, with his connections to Epstein and his what else was it?
Oh, you know, degeneracy with Milo, propping up Milo, that kind of thing.
I would throw in one I would throw in one caveat on uh on Stranhan, and then we can move away from this topic is that it seems that very much in a lot of areas geopolitically in terms of uh defending Trump in the bigger picture, it seems that he's still very much kind of in line with those people, and he still features uh Jim Hoft of the uh gateway.
I call it Jerusalem pundit as a regular guest on his Sputnik show.
It still seems to be very chummy with him, so I'll just throw in that copy out, but I just mentioning the interesting factor of uh Stranahan is like the opposition to Cernovich on the whole Dershwitz narrative, but I digress.
Well, yeah, uh you know, I haven't I've been seeing Stranah on Twitter talking a lot about this uh I believe Ukraine deal, but like, you know, he's throwing out names and talking about things that just I haven't researched at at all, really, so I can't really comment on that.
It's interesting to me how he just has obsesses over what's this woman's name, uh Ali Chalupa, but never I don't think he's ever once mentioned uh people like Lynn Blavotnik or um Oleg Derophska and all that they seem to be doing to be influencing the uh Republican defense of uh Trump in this whole impeachment drama.
Okay.
All right, here we go.
The fact that I'm a Russian agent and I'm an Israeli agent.
I'm an independent person.
I represented Jonathan Pollard because I thought his sentence was way, way uh excessive.
And the idea that Russia and Israel combine together, they're basically enemies.
I mean, okay, so this part's important, and and then Pollard, you know, that did all the spying.
But this is Russia and Israel are enemies, and this is what this is kind of how they try to uh oh what's the word?
This is how they kind of brand it and market it that this is what's happening.
But you know, you and I and many others are uh very suspicious if this really is a secret alliance and they're kind of playing both sides.
But here I backed it up and we'll uh play a little more of that.
Russia and Israel combine together, they're basically enemies.
I mean, Russia supports basically enemies.
But you see Netanyahu and Putin shaking hands, they don't seem like enemies, do they?
Well, he has to do that.
Uh he has he has to do that because he knows that uh Putin is going to, you know, anyway.
Who do you think's on top?
If they are working together behind the scenes, do you think it's it's like the Kremlins running things, or is it like the Mossad and the Zionist based out of Israel that's running things, if if you had to had to guess, or if you know.
That's a great question.
I couldn't I could I don't think I could answer that for you, but I do think that this um understand I do think that this bigger picture with this uh very much disorganized crime syndicate out of the former Soviet Union and also how that relates and doesn't relate to uh also a related topic to that in some ways, which was the mass exodus of um of Soviet Jews to both Israel and the United States in the immediate uh end of the Cold War era and the ways that that has transformed Israeli society and things such as uh the a lot of the high technological um
combination both of the extreme, very much the more the more obviously openly just bigoted uh far right or the right wing um elements in Israel, and they're just complete uh absolute the more extreme uh bigotry towards the Palestinians and also the uh the a lot of the technological um events.
It's all Russian Jews that are getting the high-tech jobs in Israel.
That's um indeed.
And I think that those things are key to understanding um possibly getting an answer as to as you the question you just asked who's ultimately on top in this whole um in this whole bigger sorted picture.
I will say one more thing.
It is funny how both Trump and Netanyahu are kind of on the ropes right now, but Putin's still kind of sitting there.
He's not really he's still seems to be sitting very uh comfortably um compared to the other two, which is kind of interesting.
Yeah, and Putin and Netanyahu have been in in power for so long.
I'm I bet you Trump looks at them and and uh with envy that they get to go more than two terms.
Well, the narrative now is that Trump sees uh Netanyahu as a loser because he couldn't win a pop couldn't win enough of a popular vote to keep his government.
And you can make the case that uh Adelson and then and the Netanyahu's are uh have a falling out now.
There's like uh this you know, bribery corruption cases, and Adelson and Netanyahu's wife are beefing about stuff and and you know calling each other names, so it's we're in a crazy time.
Um we'll finish this, and I got something else to say on that.
Here we go.
Syria, Russia supports Iran, Russia supports indirectly Hezbollah, uh, people who are dedicated to the complete destruction of Israel.
Russia votes against Israel at the United Nations on almost every occasion.
I'm very proud of my uh career as a criminal defense lawyer.
I have defended some of the most controversial uh people.
Okay, so before he gets into his uh his resume here, what what's your take on that?
We hear you know they're backing Iran, they're backing Syria, but at the same time, it's like it's almost like they're allowing enough to hap they they're allowing Israel to do what they want to do, really, and they're not really stopping it.
I don't see Putin standing up and calling Netanyahu, you know, to telling him to cut it out or anything like that, right?
In their media, R. T. Sputnik, really at the end of the day, other than just simply um focusing uh obsessing on the uh U.S. relationship with Israel, which I increasingly think is done in a way that's just uh more about making the US look bad than about actually holding Israel accountable for anything.
I would throw in uh Russian media and how how it seems to operate in all of this too, where it is very critical of Israel, but it's always from a US centric perspective.
And but on that bigger picture, uh Jeremy and I have uh we've put out we've done a couple of programs laying out our theory that uh there's a double game going on in Syria, for example, in that the um you know, the West, the US, and uh the uh creates the mess in Syria in large part through uh the Obama administration,
Clinton State Department kind of setting the stage for the rise of ISIS, and then kind of Russia steps in after the US played the role of bad cop, which benefits Israel by completely you could say Balkanizing Syria, completely just weakening Syria to the point where it's you could argue it's no longer a major power to the point that where it once had been in the past,
but then Russia steps in and plays the role of good cop and helps uh and helps to get rid of the um to do away with the terrorists that were created by the uh that the Americans created.
And by the way, that's another topic for discussion is the um the long-term Russian uh role in the war on terrorism, even going back to the uh going back to the war against uh Chechnya in nineteen ninety-nine, which got um which ultimately resulted in uh Vladimir Putin uh being I think that was the major event that was uh the catalyst for Vladimir Putin being elected uh elected as president of Russia back in uh late ninety nine, early two thousands.
There's the question of the history of that and Russia's support for the United States and the immediate aftermath of September 11th, and there's a lot of questions there surrounding that.
But we have hypothesized that there's a double game going on that Israel kind of played both sides of this Syria conflict, and now that um, you know, the conventional wisdom in the alternative media is that uh, well, Israel Russia is opposing Israel because Israel wanted regime change in Syria, and I'm not quite so clear that's the case.
It's been an image that's been very much thrown out there, but I'm not quite positive that's the case.
And if we're gonna talk about Chabad and all this, I mean Vladimir Putin, the chief Chabad rabbi of Russia, and I can find articles, I think it was in the uh Times of is he is one of the Israeli publications.
I think the Times of Israel where Barel Lazar was quoted as saying that uh Syria with Assad remaining in power is actually good for um you know, that it it's good for him, which he would be talking on behalf of Chabad, and of course Abbada has a lot of connections in in Israel.
And I'll throw in one more thing that lends creams to the possible idea of there being a double game going on.
Who was the who was the one of the foremost people in the media that was out there expo he made his claim to fame was quote, exposing how Clinton and Obama created ISIS as a Trump called Obama and Clinton the mother and father of ISIS.
It was Michael Flynn and his being a key player to figure into both the Russian and the Israeli aspects of this bigger narrative going on via his national security, his time as the head of the national security agency and the role of someone like Ezra Cohen Watnik,
who's fired by H.R. McMaster, which started a massive campaign within the pro-Israel pro-Trump media to um really just uh bring the charge bring the uh wolves knives out against him in terms of calling for his removal from uh from that office and I'm still not quite clear exactly what um Ezra Cohen Watnik represents if he's an Israeli, if he's a Russian, what he is, but it that is another factor of this.
And it's there's a conjunction of the Israeli and Russian pro-Trump media in terms of uh the fight against ISIS.
I mean while even Breitbart, for example, and people like Frank Gaffney, John Bolton within the national security uh establishment who definitely talk about Russia as a strategic threat.
You know, they always talk about the need to continue to have a strong military, a strong defense against um adversaries such as Russia on the global stage.
But their rhetoric in terms of fighting ISIS very much matches up with the um with what I would see as the uh as the Russian angle on that.
It's just that there's different wording, different language when it comes to they will not be as overtly saying you know the Assad needs to stay in power as Russia will, but the rhetoric against ISIS is very, very similar in the bigger war on terror narrative as well and also the um the the migration let's not forget that Syria was the catalyst for the um as well as Libya were the catalyst for the mass migration into Europe that is tearing Europe apart at the seams.
And as by design it appears by design right those resulted in a lot of very reactionary right wing uh governments, populist movements to rise up in Europe.
And so that is kind of the evidence we point at when we talk about the possibility of there being a double game being played by Israel with regards to playing both sides of the Syrian conflict in particular.
And Iran is a little more complicated but uh there's there's a conversation to be had about the Iran situation as well.
Well yeah speaking of uh the migration into Europe though you've probably seen the clips of the rabbis saying that this is good, this refugee crisis is good, all of them going into Europe because it's fulfilling prophecy.
It means the Messiah is coming because Edom is going to be destroyed.
And it creates.
And it really plays into the long time, the fantasies of a new crusade of the Christian, you know, or a lot of these Zionist propagandists would call it the Judeo-Christian West against the combinations of the godless, materialist, the Western left, as well as the evils of Islam, the heretical religion.
So that's a lot of dynamics and factors taking place there.
And this migration crisis in Europe is really the perfect storm for a lot of different interests, it seems like.
Yeah, the clash of civilization with the war on terror.
And back on Putin supporting Iran and Syria.
Like, I see him, them helping, like, a little bit, but not enough to actually really stop Israel all the way.
And then it's like, Putin could just be pretending to be the good guy, playing the good cop, bad cop.
They control both sides, full spectrum dominance.
he's gonna he's gonna help them he's gonna make money selling them weapons but then they're gonna become dependent on them so that they can actually control all of them that the Arab countries will be dependent on uh on Russia.
And also about if they wanted to have regime change of Assad, I believe Clean Break documents said that they just wanted to uh kind of destabilize or balkanize the area not necessarily get him out.
But on the other hand, the WikiLeaks documents showed Hillary sending an email that she said the best thing we can do for Israel to fight Iran is to get Assad out.
And that to me would indicate um that that to me I think that can be explained by another element of playing uh both sides of this conflict where I think Hillary Clinton uh represents a very very much very much um pro-Israel but also very US uh centric uh mindset that is that really was it seems that really was out for um it seems they were the close They actually did,
if you look at it on the surface, at least really were pushing for a serious regime change in Syria, but also I think that they were very much countered by this very pro-Zionist uh Trump uh the interest that brought Trump to power that I don't think were as um as much vested in an outright regime change in Syria per se is maybe more of just a Balkanizing and a um and a playing of this to push the bigger their particular uh vision of the war on the war on terror and
keeping the narrative the idea alive of the war on terror is an idea through a combination of defeating the terrorists that the uh the the radicals that the West helps that the evil uh deep state helps to put in power and allowed to run wreak all this havoc,
and then so I see even that Clinton saying that being good for Israel, that can be understandable if you see Clinton as representing one particular strain of um of thinking with regards to this, but not being indicative of what all Israelis or all his real partisans wanted with regards to Syria.
And you know, you mentioned Flynn and talking about uh ISIS that we were funding ISIS, and uh I remember Jones, Alex Jones always saying, Oh, Flynn, he's a patriot.
We got a patriot in there, and you know that's why Trump is good, because he's got General Flynn.
Um but you know, I always hear uh uh Christopher John Björkness, and I've I've seen elsewhere too, that it's actually uh it some Chechen fighters are are ISIS and that Putin may be behind uh bringing behind ISIS to a degree as well.
Have you seen anything on that?
That's that's a good question.
I honestly would have to look more into that before I make a definitive statement on that.
And the other thing you mentioned, uh the McMaster getting out, that was uh the ZOA and Adelson were huge behind that.
I remember sharing a bunch of articles that they were the ones that were pushing for all that to happen.
And it's interesting also, that's an area where Russian and Israeli interest came together, is that Rush uh the Russian strain was saw McMasters being a hawk in Syria and is opposing Russia in in Syria and opposing uh Russia's um basically defense of the Assad government in Syria and saw him as basically as being a typical representative of like the of the US war machine,
while the Israelis saw McMaster as not being just not being sufficiently a combination of him being too sympath not being willing to call radical Islam what it is and maybe being a little too soft on the war on terror, which is so stupid, but also that McMaster just wasn't sufficiently pro-Israel enough for their liking in terms of supporting the Trump administration's uh hard line pro-Israel policies.
All right, let's finish up a little the last little bit of Dershowitz here giving his little uh resume spiel, calling himself a patriot over and over again.
Here we go.
I have defended some of the most controversial uh people in history.
Um I think of myself.
Dancing Israelis of John Adams, who represented the Boston Massacre soldiers who were accused.
Uh I think of myself in the tradition of so many other uh defense lawyers throughout history who have uh uh and endured criticism for defending the most unpopular people of their age and generation.
I I'm eighty-one years old.
I hope to continue to defend people you don't like and people who most Americans don't like, because the need for a defense attorney is stand up to uh excesses of the prosecution and paranoid excesses of the kind you've re expressed in in your So excesses and paranoia.
So it's just paranoia to say that Epstein has anything to do with uh Mossad or any kind of foreign intelligence Yeah, and um is this the end of the clip?
Do you want to finish it and then we can't sure finish it and we can talk about news about uh Epstein working for the most uh what intelligence agency would trust Jeffrey Epstein uh to work for uh for them?
Uh it these are just uh these are just allegations that are being uh uh thrown out there.
There's there's no no truth whatsoever to any of them, and certainly no truth.
You ask letting him finish up on that.
That I have ever been an agent for any foreign country.
I'm a loyal patriotic American.
My grandparents came here to get away from the oppressions of Eastern Europe.
We love America, we're patriotic, and I'm gonna continue to do what I think the American Constitution demands of me, defend people who are accused wrongly or rightly of serious matters.
We'll go to West Bend, Wisconsin.
Too bad Janry didn't get a response back, a rebuttal.
No, but uh to C-Span, uh, in defense of C-Span, normally the caller asks, and there's not normally a rebuttal.
So I don't think that was anything nefarious on the part of uh of C-Span in that regard.
But uh I gotta say Dershowitz, he has his uh spiel down very well, you know, and that's a way like even the even the liberal establishment, which at least you would get the impression are very angry at Dershowitz for defending Trump.
That allows even the you know the elements of the media and the establishment that were supposed to think are angry at Dershowitz, you know, ultimately they still portray him rather than really trying to bring to light any of his actual uh connections, and even just going beyond the awful stuff with Epstein,
but even in terms of the significance, the type of people he has defended historically, um and what those what those would indicate, they they're very much um complicit in pushing this idea that Dershowitz is just a you know, he's the people's lawyer, he represents in the American spirit unpopular people,
and he's going to defend them to the best of his ability, not because he has any vested interest in their you know, and they're getting off for crimes, but no, because he's doing it in the spirit of America, and he's doing it in the spirit of uh uh his profession of defending even the worst in our society.
And interestingly, another another interesting uh Alan Dershowitz uh connection is that he was um he was one of the people defending the uh quote unquote neo-Nazi rally in Skokie, Illinois in 1978, which was a major uh a major event at the time, and it turned out that the organizer of that rally,
uh Frank Collin was actually Jewish, and so Dershowitz, and when you consider the history of the uh the Ku Klux Klan and the neo-Nazi movement, and um there's a lot of interesting uh dynamics there with the ways that those organizations have worked hand and glove and many.
But I brief in in Freemasonry, right?
We're deeply involved, Albert Pike.
All of those, it seems that all those organizations, the Ku Klux Klan, although this was more quote unquote neo-Nazi than the Klan, but they're very much in um they're very much in symmetry with each other.
But all these organizations, it seems the Klan, the NAACP, perhaps also the um the American Civil Liberties Union, but certainly the KKK and the uh and the um the Klan as well as the NAACP in addition to the anti-defamation league, all seem to be offshoots of the very same uh particular segment of uh Freemasonry where the Benay Brith originated out of,
and even in more recent decades, there's um you can there's all kinds of evidence that points to the uh to the Klan or rogues, perhaps within the Klan, uh people within the Klan acting as informants, working hand in glove with um the ADL and the FBI to stage uh terrorism, both physical and uh psychological.
Like the KKK guy that was just on MTV, which oh, by the way, Greg, um let's uh re redo the call because you're frozen.
Oh.
Let me call you back, okay?
Alrighty.
I'm going to talk about Nick Flint as MTV and parents here in a second.
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Hold on a second.
So uh if you can hear me, I was gonna say uh MTV recently did the hit piece on on Nick Fuentes, and they had a former KKK guy that was acting a lot like a Fed and it was all an ADL propaganda piece.
So it seems like we even see that kind of connections uh in modern day as well.
Sure.
I mean, they very much benefit from the uh Ku Klux Klan as this uh as this boogeyman out there, which is why I think it's important.
And uh, I think that the I think the historical nature and the roles of people like uh David Duke become very interesting when you consider this whole clan dynamic and the uh the relationship over the years between the Klan and elements of uh uh of American uh the FBI as well as even through the um Jewish organized Jewish interests represented by groups such as the Anti-Defamation League.
So there's definitely um very, very interesting dynamics going on there, and the the Ku Klux Klan seems to be the gift that keeps on giving in so many ways.
I mean, any time something happens with the Klan, you know, the anti-defamation league is is just getting ready to lie in its pockets and laugh all the way at the bank.
So the way they're doing the media now too, is like anybody uh all Trump supporters, anybody that's white that doesn't hate themselves, like they're a Nazi and that we need to go out and punch Nazis and beat up Nazis, so they really are trying to kind of position people for a crazy possible civil war.
We 2020 is gonna be incredible.
We've got a a very crazy election coming up.
Trump may be being uh is being it was impeached in the House.
Um kind of like if we can bring it back to the the Juku stuff for a second, uh true news got in a bunch of trouble for predicting a possible civil war type thing, and uh if Trump is impeached,
he they were predicting that Trump's supporters, some of his uh, you know, Christian I think Rick Wiles was like cowboys and uh mountain men are gonna, you know go to war with the liberals if they impeach Trump, which I see as a possible plausible 2020 thing,
like uh all the the meet the movies like purge and stuff connected to uh Kushner and just the climate we're in, do you think we could see some type of like civil unrest or sort of a civil war or something in in the near future?
And then another question do you think Trump is gonna win in 2020?
Uh two very good questions.
Uh first of all, yes, I do see I do, you know, it's something that is a very real uh a very real scenario being uh being put into place of um of a domestic civil war.
Although I think it's more I think it's more uh maybe the right term is nuanced, but I'm gonna use it anyway.
I think it's more nuanced than just the idea of like the so many people paint as just the idea of the simply the you know the radical left that's fanning the flames.
I think there's a lot of flames being fanned by a lot of different people with um a lot of varying interests and not just the you know the more Antifa uh more maybe more uh far left.
It makes me think of like Duganism, where he wrote in his book about uh kind of uh propping up bolstering the extremes on both sides so that there's really extreme partisanship and and clashes and stuff.
Well, that sure seems to be happening, but uh you know I do think it's unfortunately very real uh and that's why I think it's important also, and and I this may not my view won't be the same as everybody else's, but I think that there's a way to talk about these topics in a way not to talk about them.
But I do think it's a realistic uh scenario of something like that as all as horrible as that is to uh to fathom or to or to think about.
I mean, it is something that has to be considered as a realistic scenario.
And as far as Trump in 2020 at this point in time, I God, it's I mean, we saw Boris Johnson win in a virtual landslide in the UK, and I don't know how much voter, I don't know how much uh machinations were going on with the vote there.
I'm sure there was some to some extent, but probably not enough that it could explain Johnson went and uh the the uh conservative party winning as much as they won.
And by the way, the other big beneficiary of the vote was uh Nigel Farage's uh Brexit party, which I can see is certainly being uh by design there as well, with uh Farage, the former uh Michael Milken, Nigel Burnham, or excuse me, Drexel Burnham Lambert associate.
But um in that in that regard in that question, I mean, it seems to me that uh you're gonna have very much a core you're gonna have very much a Jeremy Horbin like, or at least seen as a Jerry McCorbin like candidate in the uh US in 2020.
Because I don't see it being it's certainly I can't imagine it being Joe Biden.
I think Joe Biden's just about done.
Um I have a hard time uh I mean Pete Boudig is very much disliked despite his uh you know the some of the factors that would normally play in his favor, such as his sexuality.
Um he's very much disliked by the uh left wing of the uh of the Democrat Party.
So I can very much it Trump versus uh Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.
I mean, it it seems like it could be a setup for a landslide victory for Trump in that million by putting him against the extreme of the other side that was.
That was just trending the other day, landslide.
It seems what how awful these uh democratic candidates are that we that's what I see happening.
I do think a lot of this impeachment is just gonna make the people that were gonna support Trump support him even more.
I think he's gonna I think he's gonna win.
And on top of that, there's even the question of, well, I mean, it appears to me that Bernie Sanders kinda may have allowed the uh 2016 uh Democratic primary to be taken by Hillary Clinton, and then in turn Hillary Clinton, something I didn't see back in 2016, was very much the uh person who was uh the designated uh loser of the 2016 election to Trump, something that I couldn't see then, but I can I can see now.
So there becomes the question of that.
But also I would say that just simply looking at it from a purely aesthetic standpoint, taking outside the uh realities of voters voter fraud and uh outright election rigging that has taken place over the years in this country.
Um just from a simply purely aesthetic standpoint.
I mean, someone like Elizabeth Warren, if you just take out all the all the machinations of politics and rigging of elections, Elizabeth Warren in particular would be a very formidable uh opponent for Donald Trump.
She wouldn't be another Hillary Clinton, so Biden.
Biden, if they elect Biden, it's gonna be like a shoe-in for Trump, I believe.
Oh, absolutely.
But I can see Elizabeth Moore and even possibly more so than Bernie Sanders, it could really be tarred with like the brush of being too far left.
I can see Elizabeth Warren being very formidable to Trump.
Yeah, she does seem kind of like a Hillary 2.0, not as much baggage, you know.
Trump will just call her Pocahontas.
It will be much more formidable and it will be a lot harder for Trump to just really destroy her like he did Clinton.
I mean he absolutely capitalized off of Clinton being so terrible at the awful history of Trump.
I'm sure Elizabeth Warren has her skeletons in her closet, but it's not like with uh with the Clintons, so it's you know, saying she was Native American to get the job, but she basically admitted Yeah, she admitted that she was wrong to do that recently, too.
I know, but is that the biggest thing they have against her?
I mean Yeah, and it's not very good, huh?
Trump got elected saying uh grabbing by the the you know the hoo-hoo right before.
So um some more on this.
I I I know that you were worried that um, you know, saying these kind of things like you know, you f you you predict that you could there could be uh a war that Trump supporters could get upset that they're gonna place the blame on that.
You know, nobody is calling for this to happen.
And in true news, I don't see them as just uh like they they I believe they understand that it's both it's both sides are controlled by by Zog and it's just factions fighting one another.
But definitely, you know, Rick is public enemy number one with the ADL and the media recently.
So if anything does happen, you know that they are gonna be pointing the finger.
So it is important, you know, myself included, to say we are never calling for any violence.
That's the worst thing you can do, and that we're just saying that this is what what we see may be happening.
Right?
I would certainly concur with that, and thank you for saying that.
It's very important to uh it's very important to you shouldn't have to say that, but it's very important to reinforce that, unfortunately.
In fact, even a good thing would be is they're probably gonna do something and try to blame it on us, you know.
That already kind of, you know, uh get ahead of it before they try to accuse you of anything.
You gotta get ahead of it and say if something happens, they're gonna blame me, and I did not call for that.
But that's what the narrative will be.
Sure.
I see I see I see a combination of if there's anything going on here, and we can uh, you know, perhaps we have some uh disagreements on the nature of uh the particular commentary of uh the what is seen as the civil war rhetoric coming from uh uh uh true news.
But I see a combination of uh I see a combination if there's anything that's gonna be happening on major scale in 2020 in terms of quote unquote domestic terrorism that could be blamed on you know conservatives and Christians and uh quote unquote anti-Semites on the right.
Um it would be a combination of the psychological terrorism of the uh CNN uh the CNN uh insane leftism.
No, no, no, no, no.
The guy who was sending if we were talking about things to be blamed on the right, it would be mail bombs with the CNN his fake newsman and all of that, like psychological event with a very real um and I'm not gonna get into debates with people about what didn't didn't happen at the Tree of Life Synagogue, but something like that where it's very real uh physical physical violence.
I can see a combination of that stuff happening, and uh and it will be stuff to be blamed on um the right side of this uh or the far right side of this particular um political and social divide we find ourselves in.
Well, yeah, I was just that's a good point.
I was gonna say the ADL is probably just like you can't wait for the next big attack to happen so that they can really sh push through more laws, more executive orders to justify their narrative and and in increase censorship everywhere.
They're waiting for it, and it's almost inevitable that it is gonna happen.
With you know, they know that if they corner rats, if they censor, if they don't allow any honest conversation, if Trump just keeps giving everything to Israel, they know what the the natural reaction is this gonna be, you know, it's just a matter of time essentially.
Yeah, unfortunately.
And I mean, we've seen the history of uh of false flags being the uh you know, the September eleventh was the uh was the catalyzing event talked about in the uh Project for a New American Century.
But it's not only foreign policy.
I mean, we've seen so many of these events before, these false flag style events that have taken away uh the uh taken guns away in countries like the United Kingdom and Australia.
And so it's more than just that kind of terrorism, but I find that term to be so accurate.
The catalyzing events that just that just happened that just seemed to put everything into place in such a neatly uh wrapped up box for the for the interest and goals of people in positions of power who want to take the rights away from the populace.
Cool.
So um was there any other points that you wanted to make on the impeachment or on Russia Gates or um you want to do some plugs where people can find you and then maybe take a couple questions before we wrap it up.
So antidote on YouTube spelled A-N-T-E-D-O-T-E.
Is where you and Jeremy Roth Cushell do your uh podcast essentially, right?
How often do you guys do about once a week?
A couple times you guys do a video.
Yeah, we try to do once a week, and uh sometimes we um sometimes we don't get a show out every week.
We do actually um our primary uh program is done for um No Lies Radio, no Lies Radio.org, uh Alan Reese's uh website, and we do a 58-minute program on there, and it's a weekly show that we host onto our YouTube page.
We also have a uh a Patreon page, patreon.com/slash theantidote, spelled the same as the YouTube.
And we're definitely not the best self-promoters.
We really need to step up the uh the promotion game, so to speak, into them.
But uh, you know, those are our primary places right now you can find us, or YouTube and Patreon.
And in addition to the uh 58-minute shows we post on YouTube that are done for No Lives Radio, we also have uh we do long form shows from time to time and the um so here's a question before we go to the chat for questions.
Uh Tulsi Gabbard, I see here with her this thumbnail with Miriam Adelson and uh Rabbi Bo Tiach or Bill Bootiak.
Um, she voted, I thought this was interesting.
She voted present yesterday at the impeachment.
So what do you think that's about?
Uh I think that's about Russian agent, like uh Hillary says.
Well, that's something that kind of has me really um it's something that I've been really is kind of had me a little frustrated about today, is this uh in general with uh Tulsi Gabbard.
I mean, I sent you a video a couple days ago of Tulsi on uh Mike Huckabee show on the uh Trinity Broadcasting Network, you know, very high-level uh very powerful uh Zionist evangelical propaganda right there.
And so I mean, and uh and we can talk a lot about Tulsi, and maybe we will hear but uh I did want to say a few things about her since you asked.
I see Tulsi is a perfect uh what Jeremy and I have called as a horseshoe candidate as far as being a perfect candidate as far as uh playing this um she's a perfect candidate for this current um environment of the you know the anti-deep state democrat and the combination of bringing together quote unquote anti-war interest with uh a lot of things that even like right-wingers would find it.
It's kind of like a Ron Paul in a way, almost, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And she could play the spoiler if she sticks in it, sticks with it.
Yes.
But Tulsi Gabbard is much more overt than Ron Paul ever was in so many ways.
And that's not talk about his son who I think is garbage, Rand Paul, but I mean Ron Paul.
Tall garbage.
He's awful.
Ron Paul never talked like Tulsi Gabbard did.
I mean, you know, Ron Paul didn't go out in every single interview he did and talk about how Al Qaeda attacked us.
I mean, Ron Paul was very weak on September 11th.
He said that uh it was blowback.
And at the time when I first Ron Paul got me into uh all of this full disclosure, it was because I uh it was Ron Paul who attracted me to a lot of this going on.
Um, you know, I got into a lot of this because of Ron Paul, so full disclosure there.
But I mean, Rod Paul was very, very weak on September 11th and on terrorism, and I didn't uh see that at the time.
Just pro-Russian too, as well, right?
Isn't he isn't he on the pro-Putin side?
He does, and he plays the role of the libertarian isolationist, which um has a lot of roots through you could go back even through um you know Ayn Rand and then more recently.
Ron Burch Society, no?
Um Burch Society, I think it's a little more right wing, but I mean there it's certainly there.
I mean, Ron Paul had does have connections through uh very John Birchy and like uh interest.
I mean, you could say Alex Jones, uh Lou Rockwell, who was the person who was uh said to be the actual writer of the uh Ron Paul newsletters that were so controversial several years ago, some of the passages in there.
I think there's uh John Burt Society connections with uh with Lou Rockwell.
So they're definitely there, and there's a continuum, but even through the uh paleo-libertarian movement of people like uh Murray Rothbard and um this combination of isolationism, and even if you want to talk paleo cons who are not really libertarian socially, Pat Buchanan would be perfect for this.
Pat Buchanan was the cold warrior turned defender of all things Russia, who also dog whistles to the uh to the you know, the anti-Zionist crowd by um saying things like uh talking about uh the Israel and its Amen corner being the only people who won a war in Iraq and uh how the people who are gonna die in Iraq are not people with the name of uh McAllister and Gonzalez and Leroy Brown,
they're gonna be the ones dying, not the uh excuse me, not the Jews, not not the people with Jewish names, but I mean there's a long history there, but I see to get back on track, uh Ron Paul is much but much less uh problematic in his actual rhetoric over the years of Tulsi Gabbard, but uh I see Tulsi as being a horseshoe candidate.
The reason why she appeals so much to the Rabbi Shmuli Botiox and the Adelsons and Breitbart to understand that you have to go back to what she was saying during the Obama administration, and she was basically making the media round saying that um Obama is not strong enough on terror,
you know, he won't say radical Islam, and you know, even now to this day she says I'm a I'm a dove on regime change wars, but I'm a hawk on terror on the war on terror, which of course is reinforcing the idea of the war on terror as being a complete um the myth of the war on terror as being a necessary thing to fight because of September eleventh and the threats of terrorism.
But Tulsi is very appealing to those people, and she's now trying to distance herself a little bit from that rhetoric she was more openly using in the Obama administration, trying to appeal more to the actual left, but that's still there with her.
I mean, it's still a part of her um it's still a part of her rhetoric and her ideology, and it's why she's that's why I would say she's so friendly to outlets like Breitbart and uh Rabbi Bootiak and the Adelsons and even spoke it koofy as well, is what I just had up on the stage.
Yeah, she did, yes.
Christians United for Israel.
Yes, she did.
And that's probably the reason why she feels so comfortable going on Tucker Carlson's show, Sean Hannity show, and most recently Mike Huckabee's show.
And if people want to say, well, Tulsi turns to Fox because CNN MSNBC or keeping her out of the debate won't give her any screen time.
That's one thing.
I still think it's doesn't justify going on Sean Hannity's show in particular, knowing what he represents.
But to go on Trinity Broadcasting with Mike Huckabee's just a whole nother a whole nother thing all together.
And I would look at Tulsi as a horseshoe candidate, but I would not I mean if she's somebody who I would not say is strictly like an Israeli puppet.
I could look at her as possibly being a very real uh Russian uh very real Russian aspect to her campaign.
And I don't want to sound like uh Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris saying that she's a literal Russian agent, but I mean if you have nuanced conversation that actually takes the realities of the rhetoric Tulsi Gabbard is putting out there and how it matches up with certain interests geopolitically and otherwise, the case I think can be made, but it has to be made in an actual logical manner and not in this stupid boogeymanish way that Hillary Clinton did it.
Yeah, you you mentioned Tucker Carlson too.
It's you know, he he gets some stuff right and he seems to be like, you know, everybody's favorite on Fox News and and some people's favorite on on on TV, period.
But you know, I saw Yer Netanyahu went and visited him in his office and said it took a photo on Twitter and says Tucker is a great friend to Israel.
So, you know, that kind of fails the litmus test to me.
And same with Rand Paul, you know.
You know, we're criticizing Ron Paul, but I still like him way more than Rand.
Rand does bends the knee to Apex, ZOA, he congratulated Netanyahu when he won his election.
They gave him crap when he didn't clap hard enough when Netanyahu was at Congress and got all his, you know, six gorillion uh uh standing ovations.
But interesting since you mentioned uh Rand Paul and uh Tucker Carlson, I would look at honestly Tucker Carlson and also Alex Jones as being the two people in media.
I think that they really um I think that if you pay close attention to the what they talk about, and I don't I don't pay super close attention to Tucker, and I don't really have to pay super I don't I feel like I don't have to pay super close attention to Alex Jones to kind of know what the narrative is at Info Wars.
I can listen about five or ten minutes on any given day and figure out.
I heard that he has not said anything about the executive order, and somebody messaged me that he somebody called in and brought it up today, and he like just like dismissed it or didn't respond or something.
On the flip side of that, Alex Jones did recently interview E. Michael Jones for like 45 minutes and did not push back once.
And he Michael Jones said the same very similar things that he says in every interview, which is going after uh, you know, organized Jewish interest and what he sees as their role in the uh in the um degradation of society.
So that was very interesting.
He didn't once push back against that.
And I have a I have a theory about that that I might go into on um on my on my channel, but I found it very interesting the interview E. Michael Jones didn't even try to push back against him, was talking about how much he agreed with him the whole time.
Yeah, I did I covered that live it and gave my analysis uh on that, but uh I can't remember the details.
You you pe uh that's a nice teaser, and we can r uh people can go watch your analysis on that on on your channel.
Yeah, the antidote, all the links are in the description below.
And uh let's let's wrap it up.
Uh maybe we'll go another two minutes of questions.
I don't have super chats anymore, demonetized at Vox P uh Vox Apocalypse.
I just had PayPal taken away a couple days ago.
Right now I'm just one last point to finish off saying with Tulsi Gabbard there is that uh and then we got into Rand Paul and Tucker Carlson.
I think that if you look through two different avenues, media and politics.
I think if you look at in p in the political spectrum in America today, you look at Rand Paul and you look at Tulsi Gabbard, and then in the political um in terms of media, you look at Tucker Carlson and you look at Alex Jones, and I think you can r really kind of paint a picture as to the commonalities, common interests of uh I would say of Russia and Israel when it comes to many different things, both in terms of uh U.S. domestic policy as well as uh bigger events globally.
So I would look at those four people as being perhaps um gateways into understanding what bigger picture could be at play in terms of where the Israeli and the Russian interests come together.
So well, I remember recently uh n Alex Jones did a rant where he was like, I can't be bought, Matt Drudge can't be bought, uh Net Yahu can't be bought.
He's doing it, he's a nationalist, he's doing what he can for Israel.
Putin's the same way, so it's definitely see the the allies there, that the Zionist uh gotta say one more thing.
Yeah.
One more thing into this, Adam, since you mentioned that is um is um I don't know what you think of this, but I think it's time to start looking at it InfoWars is beyond just simply Israeli propaganda and look at a possible bigger picture that there is a Russian angle to InfoWars, and I came to this looking at this interview where Jones did not push back on E. Michael Jones at all, but also even thinking about uh a Steve Pachenick, how Steve Pachenik is uh the ex-Spook.
I'm sure he still is a spook.
He's very much uh much more influential, and I think has a lot more um influence and power than people realize, I think.
Um he certainly is very much, I think, shaping and influencing a lot of things.
But you know, Steve Pachenik can go on InfoWars and blame Israel for September 11th and talk about Zionism in a way that no one else in InfoWars would dare would dare talk about it.
And even uh Jerome Corsi, who you have done extensive work on Jerome Corsi, obviously, and Jeremy and I have zeroed in a lot on Corsi, um and his particular statement of him being hired by InfoWars, and you looked at that as proof that you know InfoWars is just Israeli propaganda, seeing how much propaganda course he's done for Israel, and that clip of him saying that uh course of uh Jones is or Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
I got the word of this from sources in Israel with capabilities above Mossad, but on one of his now since deleted uh live streams, Corsi, um where he was still pro-Quannon before he was starting to get exposed, for him and Alex Jones are starting to get exposed within the uh QAnon circles as being uh very basically as being Zionist agents and Corsi's case, an agent of the international Bene Brith, who he did work with.
Um Corsi was saying openly on one of these streams, and I wish we still had it, that uh that Trump should openly align with Putin because Putin wants to defeat communism as bad as he does and as bad as uh as Netanyahu does and defeat the so it's this it's they're they're the very much pushing this um line that it's very pro-Zionist,
but it's also very pro-Russian, and I think we have to take a Russian factor into InfoWars when you consider the uh the roles of people like uh Steve Pachenik and what I just brought out there with um with Jerome Corsi.
So I think that's I think that's very interesting to look at.
I'm starting to expand my look and broaden my view of uh what something like InfoWars represents at this point.
And I could be wrong, but I'm just putting it out there.
Well, you know, this is this is something that Alex Jones's wife shared, I believe, initially on Twitter, and this is Alex Jones's, or I guess it looks like he shared it.
I don't know if that's because his wife was sharing it first, but this is uh it looks like a Russian visa for Alex Jones.
He always goes, I'm not an Israeli agent, I've never been to Israel.
But was it you who did a live stream with uh Matthew North where you're talking about the Russian gal who worked for InfoWars?
Yeah, Daria, right.
Yes, that's very interesting as well, and I don't know all the ins and outs of that, but uh there's some there's some interesting stuff going on there.
But I think you know, InfoWars, I think just calling it simply calling it Israeli propaganda at this point.
I'm starting to think that's a little simplistic.
It obviously is, but I don't think that explains the entire dynamic of what's going on in InfoWars.
Well, we certainly see a lot more Zionist-oriented material and shilling.
We don't see you don't we don't see him talking about Putin in Russia all the day.
It's almost like besides Russian clues.
He has on Duganon, yeah.
And I find it still find interesting that Michael Jones was on there and there was no pushback from from Alex.
There's some of that as well.
I mean, there's a lot of both there, but uh well, let me see.
Um I was saying, I don't have super chat, so I'm not able to get the questions, but I will we'll we'll close it out with one good question from the chat.
I know there's a little lag, but let me start your question with a uh question mark so I can easily find it, guys.
Give me a good one.
A good question to uh roll us out.
Somebody, what do you think of QAnon?
That's what we'll end on.
Just kidding.
Wait, do you want to ask me that?
No, not really.
Uh, you probably do have a good answer on that, though, right?
I look at QAnon, my my theory on QAnon is it's I don't put any stock into it.
I mean, actually I I will take that back.
I do put stock into it, but not in the way that people who think QAnon's actually right about Trump draining the swamp or whatever.
Um you know, I put stock in that QAnon means something, is that my theory on QAnon, and I can't prove this, this is just my gut on this, is that QAnon comes out of the I think it comes somewhere out of the Michael Flynn Ezra Cohen Watnik uh National Security Council when uh I mean the I I very much think that is the case because something that happened uh, you know, we had this uh this whole situation with uh Cohen Watnik being removed and H.R. McMaster and that whole campaign against him.
But within a couple months of that, you had the rise of uh of QAnon.
And going back to Alex Jones, one of the things Alex Jones said before he had his quote unquote falling out with QAnon, which I think is because people were getting too close to the reality of who Alex Jones and Jerome Corsi represent people within the QAnon movement.
He had said that he knew the original QAnon.
I talked to QAnon, I talked to QAnon, right?
These are patriots, you know, these are patriots, they're very close to General Flynn.
And I mean that's what he said.
And so I very much think it's and even Jerome Corsi in one of his live streams said that uh when Trump put Ezra Cohen Watnik into a position within the Justice Department, uh, that having Ezra Cohen Watnik in the Justice Department's like having Qannon himself in the Justice Department.
And so I think the evidence I think that you can make a case that QAnon comes out of that network, and I think these people are very adept at playing on conspiracy culture and uh knowing what uh knowing how to cater their narratives to people who are into conspiracy culture, not only the generic Zionist milieu, but even I think this is a stroke of genius from QAnon, throwing out there the little thing about Israel's going to be saved for last.
So you even have a lot of people who are anti-Zionist who are very much into QAnon because they see the hope that you know QAnon's going to expose Israel and that this is proof that Trump's just playing 4D chess and is really not uh not as pro-Israel as he makes himself out to be.
And QAnon was calling Alex Jones and Posobiec Zionist Mossad agents as well, maybe to boost its credibility or something.
I I la I strongly believe so, and I think that they play off of each other.
But if you listen to the narrative, if you listen to what Alex Jones and Jack Pasobic, people like that say, and you listen to what QAnon and its followers say, it's very much the same, other than they're basically saying it's QAnon that's doing this.
Whereas Alex Jones and they just talk to Eric Jones just talks about the Delta Force, Delta Force in the White Hats, whatever you want to call it as.
But really point to me where the rhetoric is different outside of the generic name calling, which I think is done to boost Uh the street creds of a lot of people.
It's the Liberals, it's the ChICOMS!
And then there's there's Navy Intelligence Jack Pasobic, who was also working for Cambridge Analytica, and then he even had tweets that he was involved with Q before that it went on to 8chan and got anti-Semitic or whatever.
That makes sense to me.
That would make sense to me if it was rooted out of the uh network that was very close to Michael Flynn and Ezra Cohen Bodnick.
I think that would make a lot of sense, and that would be that'd be natural.
I'll just say one more funny thing about QAnon.
One of the most ridiculous theories I've heard is from a guy who's a very much within the QAnon and uh media online uh network of people this guy by the name of uh Dave Janda.
He he threw out at the time of George H.W. Bush's funeral of the reason why uh or after it, the reason why William Barr was brought in.
You want to know why?
It's because George W. Bush struck a deal with Trump at his father's funeral that uh that he would help Trump expose the deep state in exchange for Bush getting immunity for his family, and that's why William Barr was brought in.
It's not because William Barr is a career cover-up artist or because he's linked to the whole Epstein thing via his father.
He visited Epstein's jail quietly two weeks before he died or whatever.
But it has nothing to do with any of that stuff, or nothing to do with Barr's father hiring Jeffrey Epstein as a teacher.
No, it's because the Trumps and Bush has struck a deal.
So that's the kind of stuff you hear in QAnon land.
How about the Q people that are like, oh, Trump is so great, he got Epstein arrested.
You know, he's breaking down the pedophiles.
It's like, no, actually, you know, Trump and Barr basically allowed Epstein to escape justice.
Whatever happened if he died, killed himself, murdered, or is you know uh what is it living in Tel Aviv.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then they hold up William Barr as a hero of the uh anti-deep state coalition.
Yeah.
Incredible.
Another thing they have in common with Alex Jones and uh Jack Basobic, by the way.
Interesting.
Alright, Greg.
Well, let's wrap it up.
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