The Ask Project w/ Corey Gil-Shuster on Know More News
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
Adam Green here with NomoreNews.org.
It is October 6, 2019.
And joining me today, a very special guest, someone that I'm looking forward to.
Ask some questions to.
He is the man behind the Ask Project.
You guys, I'm sure you've seen his videos before.
If you've watched my channel, I use his clips, interviews on the street all the time.
He is the undisputed man on the street interview king of the Holy Land.
And his work is just so valuable.
He's got he's got over 60 million views, or almost 60 million views on his YouTube channel.
He's been doing it for almost 10 years now.
And I can only imagine what the view count is like with people that have mirrored his videos or just taken clips of his interviews and put them in their videos.
It's gotta be into the uh at least over a hundred million.
So without further ado, I bring you Mr. Corey Gill Schuster.
Thanks for being here, Corey.
Thanks for having me.
And I should have mentioned coming via Skype via Tel Aviv.
You live in Israel, correct?
I live in Israel.
I'm right now in my office at Tel Aviv University, which is actually nothing to do with the project, but uh I happen to work here.
Okay, so you work at the university.
That's interesting.
See, I didn't I didn't know that, but uh I'm a little surprised.
What is your university think of your journey?
I I'm oh what do they say?
Sorry, I thought you were gonna ask, do I teach?
No, I don't teach.
Because that's always the question everyone asks.
Well that would have been my next one.
Well, funny enough, most of them have no clue about my channel.
I think that's which I think is hysterical.
Um my boss is 84, and I every so often point out what I do on in my channel, and he doesn't get it.
And in fact, he actually runs uh what's called the Peace Index, which is a survey of Israeli attitudes towards peace and other political uh things that are going on in Israel, and just because he's not of a generation that understands YouTube, he he has no clue what I do.
So what about like when you're on campus?
Anyone else?
They must recognize you.
Not often, nope, not a lot, and I prefer it that way.
It's actually a lot more fun not being recognized.
Um and I and I know I'm not recognized, I'm not on camera.
Um so sometimes, yeah, every so often someone will approach me because they recognize me or they hear my voice.
Sometimes that happens.
But because when I go out on the streets of Israel and and Palestinian territories and I ask questions, it's maybe one in every 200 people says, Oh, I know what you uh you do.
It's not many.
So I was not asked that.
If you go out in public and people like know you.
Besides the fact that's a little bit strange and embarrassing, and I'm kind of a private person in that way.
I I'm not uh a fan of being recognized.
Um it's e it's better for me that the people I'm approaching to ask questions don't know what I do.
Because you're gonna get uh hopefully a much more honest answer.
That's the idea.
That's why I'm actually very happy about it.
Interesting.
So um, you know, what I love about your videos is that you really come with like a non-biased approach, and you uh interview both sides.
Uh here's your here's your Facebook.
You you put up uh two videos a week, right?
That's what you've been doing lately?
Sundays and Thursdays for seven years now.
Seven years.
And uh, and how'd you get started?
Uh it started off as uh uh when I was uh finishing my I was finishing a thesis for a master's and we just moved back to Israel, and I was unemployed and kind of bored, so I was on um Facebook and other sort of chat groups, and people are debating Israelis and Palestinians, and it's always people who are not Israeli and Palestinian.
Um they would make these claims, and I would say, but I've lived in Israel for 10, you know, 15 years at that point.
Um what you're saying is not really true.
It's not true of the average person, anyways.
I mean, I'm sure you could find somebody who believe it.
And they would always pull up a video of somebody saying whatever they wanted to prove.
And it hit me one day.
Well, somebody actually said, What are you gonna do?
Go out and ask everyone for their opinion on this subject.
And I thought, actually, that's a brilliant idea.
Why do I not just go downstairs in from my building?
I live in the center of Tel Aviv and just wander around and ask people.
I have I have a video camera.
I could do it on my phone at that point, because it was 2012.
Um why not just ask people?
And so I I started doing that and uh put it together in a video with iMovie.
I had no idea what I was doing.
And uh I just I saw the power of allowing people to explain their own views.
And without me, other than challenging them on their views or trying to fish for more information because of what I think the viewer might want to know.
Um not having an agenda that's a pro-Israel agenda or pro-Palestine agenda, just having an agenda of getting information.
Whatever comes out comes out.
Yeah, you do you approach it really neutral and like uh you let them speak, you don't edit also, right?
I don't neutral.
I gotta say it's not entirely neutral.
Because in my head, I have someone, it just pops in my head, someone I know from the from a right wing, left wing, conservative voice, a liberal voice, who's saying, oh, ask this, oh no, ask that.
And so I'm thinking of them.
Half the time I'm giving a viewpoint of somebody, it's not usually my viewpoints, rarely.
Once in a while, one of my viewpoints is.
But you're good at playing devil's advocate, though, I've noticed as well.
Because the idea is to get more information.
And if if if what they say, even if I agree with it, there's another way to look at it.
This is one of the most uh uh the conflicts that's most focused on in the world, which actually makes no sense considering there's it's not uh it's an active conflict, but it's not a dangerous conflict.
Not many people have been are are hurt by comparatively.
I don't mean that to diminish anybody, but compared to what's going on in Africa or in Syria and Yemen, um but but people have all these opinions about it.
So I figured let's uh use the safety of the conflict and the fact that everyone here is very direct and in your face and they love to tell you what they think.
Why not use that to just explain what's going on instead of having the media do it?
That's that was where it developed into that.
So how did you end up in Israel?
You're you're not originally from there, correct?
No.
No, I'm Canadian.
Uh I came the first time when I was 19, uh because it was just a place to travel to.
Uh, I'm Jewish, but I I didn't really have an interest in Israel at all.
Um and then when I was here, oh when I I at first actually I didn't like it, and then I really did like it.
I kind of fell in love with the chaos of this place and how interesting it is.
Uh I ended up meeting the guy who became my husband, uh, who's Israeli, and we he came to Canada, and then we went back to Israel, and uh we've done a lot of back and forth, but uh uh the reason mainly is him and uh uh and it just being such an interesting place.
So you're you're secular, obviously, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
So um that's it.
That's interesting that you're a secular Jew and you still you still move to Israel.
Yeah, I know most a lot of secular Jews do that.
I'm a complete atheist.
I don't believe in any of it.
Um but still it's super interesting.
I the the part that that okay, here I I could plug into the religious part in a sense.
The part that I get um or the closest I get to religion about this place is that I think that my ancestors were walking around this place 2,000 years ago.
Uh I you know I did a genetic test just out of curiosity, and it turns out that yeah, my paternal line is absolutely from here, they're Levantine, uh, most related to Lebanese and to Bedouin, and um so but it just not Oshkenazi because you're you speaking to the other.
Yeah, that is Ashkenazi.
You are Ashkenazi.
Yes.
Yes, Ashkenazi obviously intermixed with European populations.
If you're Mizrachi, um you're intermixed with Arab populations, but yeah, but a lot of it is there's a genetic uh link to this place.
Even if there wasn't, it wouldn't really matter.
And it doesn't make a lot of people give me those questions, so I know to say this, it wouldn't really make any difference other than when I'm walking around the West Bank, I'm thinking, well, it's interesting that my ancestors were here.
That's interesting to me.
On the other hand, I could also say that everyone's ancestors were there, just so you know, because it was the bridge out of Africa, the main bridge out of Africa for all populations, Asian and Caucasian.
So, in a sense, everybody has a uh um a connection to this place.
Um mine is just more recent, that's all.
You yours is uh more recent than the Palestinians?
No.
No, I would say similar.
It's actually, we have a very, we we kind of mirror reflect each other, even though each side loves to think that the other, no, no, no, they came on in this group and they're they're mixed with these people.
Everyone likes to point the uh um how the other, either the Palestinians, if I'm pro-Israel or from pro-Palestinian, how the Jews are not really from here, but the truth is that genetically we're related to people here mixed with other groups, absolutely, at different times.
Can I prove that the Jews were here before the Palestinians or the Palestinians are here before the Jews?
No, I can't.
You just have to speak to a um a geneticist or or somebody who deals with ancient history.
I know for sort of pre-biblical history because I find it interesting, and Canaanites, if Palestinians were from that group, which they seem to be, or Philistines, if they were from that group, which is a different group than the Canaanites, doesn't matter, we're around here at the same time as the Jews.
I I don't do I don't believe in the competition thing.
It to me it's silly.
And I saw in one of the interviews you just did that uh you're you research or you're into conflict resolution.
Yeah, that's what I studied.
I was always interested in it, but I studied, I did my master's uh about 10 years ago in Ottawa in conflict studies.
And uh just I think the dynamics of how people view conflict and see themselves in conflict is interesting.
I'm not a very good person about conflict resolution.
I'm not good at resolving conflicts, I'm good at creating conflicts, um, as you can tell my questions and and how I you know I get people going.
Um I can sense from a person what's gonna piss them off really quickly.
Um I like it because I like doing that actually, because not to piss them off, I don't mean that, but I to investigate and analyze what is going on with people when they're in conflict.
To me, that's uh that that that's my little high.
That's that's what keeps me going through through all of this.
That's why I do it.
So um you get your questions from are there a hundred percent from your out your audience, people emailing you and telling you to ask these things?
Yes, and and uh a slight no.
So the questions yes come from people.
They what I do though with the questions is you notice like it'll have a question, I'll have like three people ask the question, or five people or whatever.
They didn't ask that exact question, but what I'll do is boil down what they're asking into a generalized question that both is either Israelis or Palestinians, or both if I ask both, they need to understand it.
So some things I'm asked, Israelis and Palestinians will have no clue what they're talking about because they view the conflict so differently than somebody from the outside.
Um so I have to change the question a little to make it more understandable.
Um but at the same time, then I'll dig into it to try to fish out the the parts that the person really asked that they thought was interesting.
So that that's the that's the idea.
Some of them are actually word for word, what people ask.
If they're lucky enough to hit on how an Israeli or how a Palestinian would would that they would understand it that way, uh but some things I have to change just a little bit.
So what would you say is your your uh interview that stands out most in your head that you've ever done?
Like not I see the most popular videos are here, who is Jesus, who is Mohammed, how much do you hate Palestinians?
Well I that's I get that's the question I get the most.
I actually avoided that question, no offense to Christians, because I just I'm not a big I'm not very interested in religion.
So if you notice there are a bunch of them about religion, um it's it kind of started with the Jesus one because so many people asked about it, and I thought, okay, I'll ask.
But it seems so absurd to Israelis and Palestinians because they don't talk about Jesus.
Jesus is not a part of their lives because they're not Christian.
Um, in the same way, um, I I can't give a good example for Christians, but I can give one for for Muslims.
Um, that the you know Muslims can't understand why people don't believe in believe in Islam, and and then they'll and I'll say, but do you ever look at Baha'i faith, which Baha'i came from Islam, um and and sort of branched off and became its own religion.
And they stare at me like, why would I even do that?
And so it's similar with Christians and sorry, Jews, they just don't even understand why Christians are so focused On Jews.
They don't we we don't get it.
We don't understand it.
And sometimes they think that maybe I'm a Christian, like when I ask those questions that I'm Christian and I'm trying to uh proselytize or I'm trying to convert them or something.
And I'm just trying to figure out what they're doing.
Anyways, point is that uh so I asked the Jesus question and it blew up and I didn't I didn't expect it at all.
So then from then I asked more about religion because I realized that there's a lot of people out there who are very interested in religion.
And I still put it to people all the time here.
Open your own YouTube channel, start your own YouTube channel of ask them a Muslim or ask a Jew.
Um and there are there are similar, there are sites out there that have this, but it would be great for people to do this about religious questions because they're just not I'm more interested in the political and the psychological side.
And so I do I throw in a few religious questions every so often because I know a lot of people really like them and they get me views.
Um but I'm much more interested in the psychological parts.
I I kind of know what it's like to go up to go out and ask questions on the street.
I've done it a few times for my channel, and I I enjoy watching other people do it, because it really, you know, you you got the background in conflict re resolution, but basically you were just a regular guy that got tired of arguing online and decided to go out and with your little camera and look at the difference that you've made.
Yeah.
It's a quite yeah, actually there is.
I always try to downplay it because in in some ways people use the videos, or what I think is interesting, is that they see into them what they want to see.
So a video that I see of Israelis um uh uh answering a question to me in a perfectly well, not logical, because nobody's logical in this region, but um, in in a way that I would even explain it in a sort of an emotionalized way, um, makes perfect sense to me.
Somebody else will look at it and think, oh well, these people are crazy.
These people, I can't believe they're saying this.
Um and I think that's really interesting that people will get different things from the videos, even use the same video to prove their point from opposite points.
That's what this inter is fascinating to me.
Um and it just is.
I mean, there's not much I can do.
Uh people tend to project into them what they think they hear.
I get that a lot.
People sending me emails going, well, this person meant that.
And I'll be like, I didn't get that.
I mean, I I don't know.
I didn't ask them, I didn't even think about that aspect of it.
Um so but it's usually it's always foreigners because um it's it's hard to read another culture.
Uh but I think it's interesting that people will use the same these videos for their own purposes.
And then the good side about it, that's the reason I I said actually there are there's a lot of good things that came out of it, as I get a frequent uh uh free uh people from the Muslim and Arab world came here because of the videos, which shocked me completely.
Um I I really didn't expect that.
I they said you showed us something different about Israelis and Palestinians, and I came to see it on my own.
And I thought, wow, okay, that to me that's that's it.
I mean, they can he can draw whatever conclusions he wants uh when he's here or from the videos, and I have no problem if he ends up becoming completely anti-Israel or completely anti-Palestinian.
I mean, that's what I get, nothing I can do.
But he he took that leap of I'm gonna go check it out for myself, and I think that's amazing.
So I didn't answer your question before about my favorite video.
I like the videos where people um when they answer the questions, they tell me something completely unexpected.
So but those are my own personal my own personal little gems here.
Is there one like particular interview that you've seen like mirrored the most or that has gone the most viral or had the most impact?
No, not that I know of.
Not that I know of.
Do you know?
And also um I'm curious.
I see, you know, you've got at least like almost 10 or more videos with over a million views here.
Um what has the YouTube censorship done to your channel recently?
Oh, God, they scare me.
I I swear I look at uh um I look at uh the YouTube creator um page every day thinking, okay, they're gonna they're about to erase me, they're about to erase me.
Um so there were times I actually at first I didn't monetize at all because I didn't want people thinking that I was doing this just to make money, and then I realized I was losing a lot of money doing this because I have to hire a translator and I have to buy equipment and travel.
So then I monetized, and then suddenly they turned off monetization for everything for a while.
And now it kind of goes back and forth between different policies.
So for example, I can see you looking at um here, I can see you looking at how the hate videos.
So from the beginning, those were considered non-monetizable, and then this week, suddenly they are monetizable.
I I don't understand why.
I I really don't get it.
So I try to to think, okay, if there's like somebody says something which I think is hateful in it, I don't even try to monetize because I don't want to get the gods of uh of YouTube angry at me.
But there are other videos that they have demonetized, and even there's one video they said you have to be over 18 to watch, which makes absolutely no sense.
It's where I ask, um it's just it's my own sense of humor.
I ask Israelis if they've heard of uh famous anti-Israel people who are Jews, if they've ever heard of them, just hearing about them, not even their thoughts.
And none of them have ever heard of any of them because nobody here talks about those people, because it's a completely different context.
So if you're in the pro-Israel camp, you or the anti-Israel camp, you would talk about Norman Finkelstein or um uh I forget all their names.
Uh there's a pretty big language barrier with a lot of Israelis, right?
But they just it's just a different, you know, it's like a bunch of people in Sweden talking about American Native Americans.
You think a Native Americans have any clue that they're talking about them?
They have no idea.
Well, you meant you mentioned that earlier too, and I I had a response to that.
Is the reason Americans talk about Israel and the conflict over there so much is because it's uh we're just like uh it's everywhere around us.
Like if you see Trump and politics, they're always talking about Israel.
The Zionist lobbies are incredibly powerful here and always talked about so and then all the Christian evangelicals like are literally worshipping Israel and trying to help build the temple.
But it's strange for us.
We don't understand what you're talking about.
I mean, Israelis probably know who AIPAC is.
Is that that would probably be uh fair to say.
But other than that, they don't even know they've heard Christians support Israel.
But that's about it.
That's the limit.
They don't know any of the dynamics, they know that Trump is pro-Israel.
That's about it.
That's all they really know.
And everybody, of course, if you if somebody is pro whatever your group is, you're gonna be happy.
Um, but they don't understand the nuances, they don't understand even why you're talking about it.
It makes no sense to them.
So, I mean, I I obviously can explain uh uh uh why, but most of I'm just giving an Israeli perspective that most people here don't really get it.
They don't know why there's such a focus on it.
So, yeah um when I heard that you had a background in conflict resolution, I wanted to know you know, you've been on the street, you've talked to both sides.
Um what where do you see uh the region going for peace, and what do you think of the Kushner uh Netanyahu Trump peace deal?
No idea, no idea, no idea.
Um it's another one of my pet peeves is everybody who has an opinion, and every opinion I I've always heard of everyone who says this is what's gonna happen, it was always wrong.
Nobody knows what uh what's gonna happen, things could change.
Um for example, nobody thought the Oslo Accords would happen.
If you had asked people in the times, it wouldn't have happened, or the peace deal with Egypt, nobody thought it would happen.
Today nobody thinks there could be another peace deal with any any of the Arab countries other than the Gulf countries.
Um you never know.
I have no idea.
I I don't even want to guess.
Um, what do you think about you know Kushner is is Chabad Lubovich and uh you know all of the people involved, like uh Friedman is on the peace envoy, he funds West Bank settlements.
Like, how can we even think that they're taking peace seriously when these are the people that are involved with the PC?
I don't even I don't even know who Friedman is.
I know who Kushner is, that's about ambassador to Israel.
Oh no, no idea.
Um I I we people here don't know any of these things.
They don't know what's going on.
They hear a little bit about the the plan of the century, Israelis and Palestinians hear about it.
We've still never seen anything.
You hear little rumors here and there, but nobody's actually seen what it means exactly, other than it's gonna involve some money.
Um and I I I uh I could tell you what's gonna what I think is gonna happen is of course no one's gonna take it seriously because the Palestinians don't see the US as an honest broker.
Why should they though?
We're not a honest broker.
Uh but yeah, but uh they don't see them as an honest broker.
It doesn't give them what they want.
It doesn't give Israel what it wants.
But the two sides can't agree on what on uh uh they can't find a compromise because they both want more or less Israel same things.
The average the average Israeli wants security, he wants to have a good life, he wants to live um uh uh uh um sort of almost an American lifestyle.
I'm actually just doing a video about this.
If if Israel's become too Americanized, um the idea is you want a car and you want a house and you want to be able to travel and you want to you want to do fun things in your life and you want your children to be safe.
What does that mean when it comes to something like the West Bank?
So there are some people who believe that holding on to the West Bank is security policy, and or it's actually Jewish land, therefore Israel should control it.
Some people now are minority, uh believe no that we shouldn't.
It's too much of a burden of the West Bank, it makes no sense.
Most people don't really care all that much.
They kind of like to argue about it, but they don't care all that much about the status of the West Bank.
Um so for example, I'll give a different example.
Gaza, for example.
That's one thing everybody can agree on that nobody wants Gaza.
I feel bad for them, nobody wants them.
The West Bank Palestinians don't want them, the Israelis don't want them, Egypt doesn't want them, nobody wants Gaza.
That's something we can actually all agree on.
Um even though officially West Bank Palestinians are supposed to say we're all what's why does anybody need to want them?
Why can't they just stay where they are?
No, they're gonna stay where they are.
The question is who rules them and how are they who and and well don't they have the right to self-determination, like Israel always says.
I'm I'm I'm perfectly fine with that, and I think most of I think every Israeli is okay with some form of self-determination.
What they're afraid of is that self-determination turns into a destroy Israel uh element, which is absolutely true.
There's it's not that's not uh in it's not paranoia, that's true.
I remember that there's there's been documents that uh God they uh Israel wanted Hamas to stay in power in Gaza because that's their justification that they can keep uh bombing and stuff.
I don't believe in any of those.
You're you're talking to the wrong person about conspiracy theories.
I don't believe in any of them.
I think they're not.
It's not a conspiracy, it was a it was like a real declassified document.
I don't I don't I don't believe in any of those things because I'll tell you explain why.
Because I know a lot of these people who worked on the peace deals who wrote the peace deals between Palestinians and Israelis and Pal and and he teaches for us here at the university, um, the the people I've met who work for uh uh Shabbak or the Mossad, uh people I know I you meet these people all the time.
It's not that odd.
It's easy to get to them.
They're very direct about what they think.
They're not there's no, you know, we're hiding things and classifying things, and I'm sure there are things they can't tell us at all, but um the the general idea is they just want to have a normal life.
How do you create uh how do you create make Israel remain secure uh in its b in the in its borders?
Now, what are those borders?
That's the other thing.
But I'm saying, how does Israel remain secure in its borders?
So for at least now for the last 10 years, nobody wants Gaza at all within its borders, period.
Even the people like my brother-in-law, who wanted Gaza within our borders, you know, now is like, well, it was a mistake to leave, but look how look how crappy it is.
We don't want it at all.
Um I I most Israelis don't want these things.
Whether this is a class, I don't know what this document is, classified or not.
I'm talking about what the people think and what the politicians think.
And then they politicians reflect the people here.
They're they I know some of the politicians, so Politicians.
So what do you think like the you know, the the secular, more moderate Israelis, they just want peace, but what about like the ultra-orthodox and like the likude?
They're always talking about you know, taking uh the Golan Heights, and they want all of Jerusalem, can't be divided, they want the West Bank, and Netanyahu's always talking about more annexation of uh Judea and Samaria.
So you like it seems like there's a lot of people in power there that want the greater Israel and want to have this, you know, rebuild the empire.
You're oversimplifying a lot.
You have to take each one individually.
So Golan, everybody agrees Golan should remain Israel.
Um you might have had an argument 20 years ago to give Golan back to Syria when people thought Syria was stable.
I know many, many left-wing people.
I cannot imagine any of them saying, oh, let's give Golan back to Syria.
It doesn't exist.
Maybe in a hundred years, fine, but for now, I can't.
But that's a separate issue.
And there's people there, but they have Israeli citizenship, or they have Israeli residency if they or citizenship if they want.
So it's not a major issue.
The issues are West Bank, settlements, and Jerusalem.
Everybody has gotten.
Sorry?
Can I before you move to the West Bank on Golan Heights?
I'm pretty sure you could ask Syria if they want the Golan Heights, and they said would say that they do.
And then to say that Syria is destabilized, that's not really a justification because it's a lot of like uh, you know, Western countries and Israel and Saudi Arabia that are supporting ISIS.
Israel uh the uh provided Israel supported ISIS?
Yeah, they provided them arms, they give them medical aid.
No, no, no, it's all that's nonsense.
It's not because I know people who work in the hospitals that give to Syria.
I know people who who go into Syria to um to give aid.
It's it's absolute nonsense.
No, no, no, that's nonsense.
They're giving to a couple of the the I know you're gonna Google something.
This is everybody, you could Google anything.
Um it's nonsense.
It's not true.
Nobody's supporting ISIS, they're afraid of ISIS.
How many times is ISIS attacked Israel?
Uh there's first of all, there were ISIS cells found in Israel, and people were arrested.
Um there were people who went to join ISIS and they don't know what to do with them because they're Israeli citizens who were uh uh Arab Palestinian Israeli citizens, and they don't know what to do with them.
Um you know that did you see the the former head of Mossad when he was on uh Al Jazeera being interviewed?
No, I don't know what he admitted that they're supporting Al-Qaeda in Syria and that he doesn't care that they attacked us on 9-11.
No, he knows nobody ever said that.
Oh my god, this is such nonsense.
Well, I'm paraphrasing, but he definitely said that.
I'm gonna cry.
It was the biggest trauma to happen to this country, even though it didn't happen to this country.
People were freaked out about 9-11.
People thought Israel's next.
It's gonna be America and Israel gonna be destroyed by Al-Qaeda.
People were freaked out completely.
And completely and and completely.
We watched, I've seen some of those videos about the Israelis dancing and the Israelis.
It's all nonsense because I saw the actual interviews in Hebrew at the time that they were played, and all the people were saying the Israelis who were interviewed were saying how they they were arrested because they were arrested for uh arresting everybody all around there, anybody who seemed non-American, and they were also freaked out by the whole thing, and they just I've never met an Israeli Jew who believes that uh in something like Al-Qaeda who would ever ever even hint at support for such a thing.
It doesn't exist.
Well I'm sure I'm sure you could go Google one person, but no, don't believe it.
No, no, there's been a bunch of stories about Israel supporting ISIS and America too.
It's not true, it's not true, it's not true.
I have never lived here for 20 years.
Never have I ever, ever, ever met, and I met lunatics in this country.
Have I ever met anyone who would even hint, even get close to such a thing?
It's not true.
Well, I wouldn't imagine the average person on the street to uh be involved.
I go to I go to West Bank settlements, I go to kooky people who who claim a lot of crazy things.
I will admit to everything that they that they tell me.
Um that is not something that anybody has ever said.
Okay.
Um I want to talk about the dancing Israelis because uh you you mentioned them, but here's just a couple headlines, Jerusalem posts.
Israel treating Al-Qaeda fighters wounded in Syria civil war.
And not to mention that Israel's been bombing Syria like hundreds of times.
Yes, yes, yes, because they're supporting they're supporting some of the rebel groups, and they don't, whether they know or don't know, they are um supporting groups who are against Assad and against ISIS.
I've heard that they're bringing them in, they're giving them medical aid.
IDF chief finally acknowledges it's supposed to be civilians and Druze and certain groups because the Druze community here um tried to get people to um to to to be covered by by Israel as well.
Uh you so the dancing Israelis, it we have the FBI uh investigation showing that they were there before the first tower was hit.
They were celebrating.
Nobody celebrates, it's not I've never met anybody like that.
So we just saw them celebrating.
That's nice.
I've seen a lot of things.
I've seen UFOs.
Does it mean there are aliens?
No, there aren't.
Okay.
I'm sorry, this stuff is not true.
It's not true.
It is true.
They had tickets to go fly everywhere else.
They were working for urban moving systems.
It was a Mossad front group.
Our intelligence agency even never.
I don't none of this is true.
There's no proof.
What I did see, I was here, September 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th.
I was in Israel watching the news shows, interviewing people for the weeks after that who were in New York, and every single one of them, and I was obsessed because I was freaked out.
I had an I had a newborn baby, and I was freaked out about terrorism.
And I was obsessed with this stuff.
And every single, every single one of them was about the horror that America went through.
Every single one of them.
It was like when Rabin was shot here, which happened, what, seven years before that, Whatever it was.
It was like people were absolutely shocked.
People were horrified by this.
These are different issues, though.
It is a separate thing from the Israelis that were in New York that worked for a massage.
They're the same people.
This is a very unified country of people who may have a lot of different opinions, and there's a lot of kooky people in this place.
But you know, people are very in your face about what they think.
They have no problem sharing it.
To be uh and and um contradictory of things.
Like if you say something, I'm gonna say the opposite.
This is one of those areas which is just a taboo.
Just it people would not do this.
I'm telling you.
I've never met anybody like this.
They did investigations from non-Israelis who were at urban.
You are not gonna convince me.
I'm sorry, this is nonsense.
You want to go on to like people who hate Arabs or people who uh like whatever, who want um um river from the Nile?
I've met a couple of those people.
Not those those a few of those people exist.
People who would want to blow up a mosque or something, yeah, met a couple of those people.
This is not an area I've ever met, and I speak to everybody.
Not just through the Asp Project.
I'm constantly talking to people.
So I I don't get what point you're trying to make.
You're saying that the Arabs will do terrorism, but the Israelis wouldn't?
No, I said actually the opposite.
I said if you want to talk about Israeli Jewish terrorism towards Muslims or towards other Jews or towards there are some people I've heard, I've met people say awful, horrible things that that uh upset you would in the same line.
I'm saying about this specific issue of 9-11?
No, it's nonsense.
Absolute nonsense.
Have you ever asked a question about 9-11 conspiracy?
I did.
I asked people, conspiracies, no, because they would just stare at me and go, what is this anti-Semitic bullshit?
That's how they'd see it.
So I asked, what how did people what do they remember about 9-11?
I asked about that.
What do they remember?
Okay.
Alright.
Well, we're definitely gonna uh disagree on that.
I I had a question about um what do you think about the wars?
The war on terror.
What's the war of terror?
Well, 9-11 launched the war on terror, so like do you think it was a huge mistake?
A disaster.
Well, it turned out to be a mistake.
I mean, look at Iraq, it's a mess.
Um, yeah, that didn't work out very well.
Um I mean, I didn't I don't think I supported it at all.
No, not at all.
Um, because even though Iraq was technically threatening Israel at the time, uh they just weren't in it, they weren't in a position to really do that much damage, even though this God war in 90, 91, 91, whatever.
Um but no, I I I mean I was not a supporter of any of that stuff.
No.
It's turned into a mess.
Um back to asking questions on the street.
Have you ever had uh anybody get violent with you?
Or like threatening, intimidating.
I was almost I was almost beaten up just this week.
It never it rarely happened.
So Israelis are really big on yelling and screaming, and it rarely gets violent.
This one guy, I was gonna use a worse word, um, thought I was talking about him behind his back, and he threatened to he didn't say I'm gonna beat you up, but he made this like sly remark.
It was really Jewish guy.
Um said a sly like a remark like, What if I took you out in the back and beat you up?
Something like that.
And uh I was just kind of shocked, and I mean we had this 20 minute conversation anyways, but I was I think I was more mad after because no that had never happened to me.
Um Palestinians, anyone threaten me, threatening just through email, not through not physically and people got mad at me a couple of times, but not uh no threats.
So I I want to ask you about um this interview you did here, if I can find it.
Uh how can not not that one.
This one, this guy.
So you asked this guy a question about if they call uh if he's heard that they call Gentiles dogs, and he kind of was like, he didn't want to give you a straight answer, but he's like, Yeah, I've heard it, you know, that might be in there, and then I really liked how you pushed back on him.
You remember you remember that one?
Yeah, of course.
I remember exactly where it was.
Do you like um when you're recording these and like you get somebody saying something that you know is like gonna go viral or people are gonna really uh go crazy over?
Like, does your heart start to beat?
Do you thought do you start to think like, oh boy, this is gonna be a big one?
Like this guy doesn't even know what they're getting into.
Not at all.
No, no, no, not at all.
I if anything, I get emotional because I get offended.
My heart starts to beat because I go, really?
You would see like non-Jews in a in a different way.
I mean, not him specifically, but because I don't think he did, but um uh there are times, yeah.
I've heard that uh a couple of times, and I get yeah, him, him, I remember them.
I was just there the other day, actually.
Um you went back and seen him again.
Does he know that he's all over the internet?
I happen to be standing in front of that synagogue.
Uh what was it Friday?
Um, because I'm asking because that's a specific area of anti-Zionist um uh because they hate they hate Israel, they're against Israel.
This is the anti-Israel group?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that was my and nobody points that out, or nobody notices, but it says there.
So all these people the ones who are the pro-Palestinian, that's them.
That's I so and and people forget that part of it.
But um So even the anti-Israel.
Sorry?
Even the the anti-Israel or uh ultra-Orthodox, they're they still have the mindset that like we're gonna serve them in the end times.
Okay, so that's another thing.
It's the more conservative they are, it's not even the anti-Israel ones, it's actually more of the anti-Israel ones who are actually like that.
The ones who are more modern don't think that way.
It's technically in there's there's okay, so there's the Torah which has the laws, and there's uh a Talmud, which gives interpretations of the laws.
Now, just to I'm just giving a little bit of uh uh explanation on this.
So, yes, it could say in there in the Talmud, it could say, I I don't remember if dogs was actually one of them, I can't remember, but that like the Jews are gonna be slaves to the town, or the non-Jews are gonna be slaves to the Jews once the Messiah comes.
And then there's somebody else a line later who says the exact opposite, saying, No, that's not true.
So people who love to look at the Talmud don't actually read it.
That's what that other guy was trying to say, is that you have to read the Talmud um and know all the different views.
And if you're just gonna pick one one view from it, well then you're not understanding the Talmud.
Um I'm still offended as a liberal humanist that you know, okay, it's 2,000 years old or 1800 years old, the Talmud, but still, I'm still offended that anybody believes this.
Um but so yeah, so my job was is to go in and find out how many people actually believe this.
So I'll give you another example.
There's another line in the Talmud that somebody just asked me about that says you're not allowed to save the the life of a Jew, a non-Jewish woman on Shabbat.
You're not allowed to desecrate the Sabbath to save a non-Jewish woman if she's let's say giving birth.
But if it was a Jewish woman, you're allowed.
So this is a story apparently from the Talmud.
And I asked a friend of mine who's a rabbi, and he said, Well, yeah, that's technically in there, but if you read the next line, and uh five other people say, or whatever, say, no, that's nonsense, you have to save her.
A life is a life.
And it was just someone giving a contrarian opinion.
So I but what it matters to me is not what's written in the Talmud, because I don't care.
What matters to me is the Talmud is thousands and thousands of pages, how many people know either about this or follow it?
And so that's what I went to ask, and at least of the people I met, nobody actually followed it.
So well, I will say that since you you interview a wide spectrum of people, it is kind of refreshing to see like the normal ones who aren't supremacists and aren't you know like religious fanatics, and but then you know it that kind of balances out with some of the more extreme ones as well.
So you can definitely see how people can find what they're looking for in your interviews and kind of use it to support their point.
But um it's funny that's been a problem too.
But yeah, it's funny that there are some context.
That guy has never left the guy we're looking at now, has never left his neighborhood.
He has never met a non-Jew in his life.
He does not recognize me as a human being because I am a corrupt uh immoral uh Jew.
I I mean, on the one hand, I could become like him, but on the other hand, I'm an animal to him.
So, you know, of course, other people that he reads about in their very skewed news are gonna be even worse animals.
So, I mean, you have to understand from that.
That is not a normal Israeli, and that is not someone who even normal Israelis would ever meet.
So you have to understand it within the context of what it is, and I'm actually a little bit sad that that one went viral because that's like a one in you know 500,000 type person.
Um so it happens, and everything has to go in there.
I mean, everything that people say has to go in there, so I put it in.
Do you have like uh inner turmoil when you put out some videos that may look make Israelis look bad?
Yeah, not just Israelis, Palestinians.
I feel bad for for when Palestinians sound like idiots or Israelis sound like idiots.
I mean, sometimes it makes me a little happy because I do sometimes think, you know, people, you should you should you should learn how to speak, you should learn how to be human beings.
Um but yeah, it makes me sad, for sure.
It makes me sad that I'm insulting people.
It makes me sad that that these people exist, but I'd rather know they exist.
That's the idea.
Would you say that one um who's more open and willing to talk to you?
Because we see the ones where where people agree to talk, but I'm sure you must go up to people and they say no, no camera, no questions.
Yeah, is one side more willing to talk than the other?
Palestinians are more willing to speak uh to speak on camera, sort of the uh the camera kind of scares them a bit, but I'll explain why.
It's not for the reason you think.
Um but the because their English isn't as good, uh, so I need a translator.
So if it's done in Arabic, I get much more success.
It's like, let's say, out of every ten Palestinians, it's like seven out of ten or six out of ten.
For Israelis, it's like four, or as Jews, four out of ten.
Um the issue with the camera is for Israelis, they just feel self-conscious.
They feel like uh, what if, you know, I don't know, what it's just weird to them.
They don't like the idea.
For Palestinians, it's a whole other thing.
It's what if my parents see it?
What if my uh family sees it?
What if my husband sees it?
That could get them in serious social trouble.
Uh because Israelis live in a very free system where even if you have uh an opinion that nobody agrees with, you know, you'll get you'll definitely be made fun of a little bit, but it's not dangerous.
To a Palestinian, it can actually be dangerous.
There was actually a woman killed uh a few weeks ago because she posted a picture of her and a guy she was engaged to, and it was considered so inappropriate to go public because they weren't married that her her brother killed her.
I think it was her brother.
Somebody in her family killed her.
Because it's cuz it's considered very taboo.
And I and that's the part I'm most concerned about.
For Israelis, I don't really care.
They can look like whatever they want.
I it doesn't matter to me.
But for Palestinians, I'm very concerned.
I don't want to get anybody in trouble.
I don't want to get it, nobody killed.
Um, obviously, and it hasn't really happened.
I mean, we we have one story of someone that somebody knows who uh um was sort of threatened about their job because they were speaking to uh uh you know a Jew on on YouTube.
Um so and it was considered a little, you know, they didn't agree with it, but I hope I think he's fine, so he didn't lose his job or anything.
But have you have you ever ran into somebody that you had previously done an interview with that like where they had gone viral?
And you ran into them again.
Did they know it?
Or Were they like, what the hell, man?
Why'd you uh No, I tell everybody it's YouTube and it's online.
I mean, sometimes they don't clue in, but so there's a woman who works at the one about um what do you think of uh G in Mary?
I think it was.
I can't even remember how I phrased the question, but something about Mary is in there, um the Virgin Mary.
And I asked the woman who works at the supermarket next to market next to my house.
I think she's actually in the picture.
And um, she did not really expect it to go viral.
And then she's like, you don't know what you did to me.
They I had a surprise party, and they put that up on the screen of the surprise party, and everyone was like, thought it was so it was so exposing in a way, but she she was terrific in it.
So I kept telling her, you were fine.
You didn't say anything bad.
And she goes, I know, I know.
It just feels odd to be known, that's all.
Do you think um well I would imagine that the Palestinians, one, are a little hesitant because you don't speak Arabic, and um and they're but also at the same time, they're probably a little more desperate to like get the word out and like you know put their heart out on the line.
Yes.
Do you notice they want to say their their story?
Yeah, absolutely.
I've noticed some of the uh Israeli interviews, like they don't really give you uh a straightforward answer.
They kind of want to beat around the bush, which is understandable, I guess.
You know, people if someone comes up to me with a camera, I'm gonna try to be a little vague on some you know controversial issues too.
But what do you mean?
Which one?
I don't I don't know which one you mean.
Oh, I can't remember.
I've been watching a bunch the last few days prepping for this.
My take on that is is actually that they just don't know have a good answer and they don't want to look foolish.
It's not that they don't want to give Israelis love direct answers.
They love to be in your face, even if they themselves don't agree.
They just love that.
I think I think what you're reading, because I've heard this a c a little bit, I think they just don't know what to say and they feel caught off guard.
Because they because what I do know is that when I ask people the questions, mostly on the Israeli side, those are not the type of questions they were expecting me to ask at all.
They're like staring at me, going, what?
What are you even saying?
They don't understand.
They think I'm gonna ask them some trivia question, or what do you think of something that happened in the news that day, or the general where do you see your lives going, they're just they don't know what I'm talking about.
So these are concepts that are outside Israel more than they are inside Israel.
That's why.
As a YouTuber, you um wanted to ask you about trolls.
Um what are your trolls like?
What do your critics say?
Do they do uh you probably get both.
I would assume some people say that you're uh a Hasbara Mossad agent, and they probably also say that you're you're working for the the Muslims and you're you're hurting Israel.
What is that mean for you?
I'm a leftist traitor.
How do you get the call?
I don't really read the comments because I first I read the comments at first, hoping that people would actually give me more questions or saying, oh Corey, you're holding the camera wrong.
Or you know what, when you ask, you really need to phrase it, whatever.
What I get is people, as I put it to them, they're like monkeys throwing poop.
Like nobody gives uh uh a good explanation for what they're talking about, they just want to react.
So what I tend to think is uh people hear something that contradicts their views and they don't know how to deal with it.
So they have to put me in some category.
So I'm a leftist, if I'm uh the pro-Israel people will call me a leftist, Arab lover on that.
Self-hating Jew, have you got that?
Uh maybe, probably, I'm sure.
I I don't read half of them, so probably I don't I just ignore.
I can't remember self-eating the Jew was there or not.
But yeah, it could be.
Sounds like something I would get.
Um or I'm doing something bad to Palestinians that I'm subversive.
Uh I'm trying to just, or I'm picking only really dumb Palestinians, uh, or I'm picking really dumb Israelis, I get that as well.
And I just ignore it because there's nothing I can do.
I mean, the most I do is I I do make a uh a concerted effort to really try to find at least some smart responses in each video.
Um I mean, sometimes you fall on people uh I mean I always think I'm really good at that judgment of knowing who's gonna be smart and who's not.
Turns out I'm not.
Um so some people I think are gonna be great give a really bad answer, and some people I think, oh, this is gonna go nowhere, give an amazing answer.
And um by amazing, I mean you just have to have your own logic.
I don't care what it is.
I don't care if it and and semi-humanistic.
As long as you accept people, that's all I care about.
That's that's my version of a good answer.
But I think what happens is that people go into it thinking they're gonna see uh Palestinians looking bad or Israelis looking bad, and they don't get what they want, so they think that this must be a trick.
That's what I think is is happening.
But then there's the people that who I you know I relate to who understand what I'm doing.
They understand that it is just uh uh a survey of views, and you can't judge uh all Israelis by watching one video.
You watch a few of each side and it paints a picture.
All it does.
Um let's see here.
Uh nervous.
What has it been like like when you first started going out and doing interviews with people compared to now?
Like, you know, you're asking some pretty taboo, controversial, uh awkward questions.
What is it like going out and asking strangers these tough these tough questions?
Weirdly, that doesn't bother me.
It it I try to bring someone with me every time because it gives me more uh courage.
But as long as there's someone there with me to sort of um after the person leaves is sort of like reflect on what happened, it's fine.
And there's a there were two questions that I can think of that I was very uncomfortable asking.
Um but all the others, I actually like the more controversial, the more uh dicky the question is.
I actually kind of like it.
I like to get people to think about something, mostly if it's something that's very um like asking people like the annexation.
We never talked about that actually.
Um the annexation of the West Bank.
I'm doing that now.
And to get people to think about, not only not just use the slogan, because this is what happens is everybody speaks in these slogans.
I am for annexation, I'm against annexation, and then you ask why, and you realize that most people have not put much thought in anything.
I like challenging people to put thought to really think about what are what is the impact of a two-state solution?
What is the impact of a one state solution?
What is the impact of annexation?
If you have a political view on something, have an idea of all the aspects that could come out of it.
And I can't expect, obviously, because I know nobody can think of everything that's gonna come out of it, but to have put a little bit of thought into it is that's I do have that expectation.
So I actually like asking those questions where you catch people off guard, where you realize they have never thought about the impact annexation is gonna have on Israel.
Um, and it makes them feel uncomfortable.
I am very happy about that.
Um how prevalent is uh the Rebbe over in Israel?
How popular is the Rebbe and Chabad and uh their uh you know chanting we want Moshiach now is how prevalent wow.
I don't know what you mean by prevalent.
Um statistically, 13% of the country is Haredi.
So those are Chabad, and all the people with the black hats and the that's 13% of the population of Jews.
Wait, is that all population or Jews?
I'm forgetting my statistic.
Um another 15% are religious, meaning they wear a kipah, but they're not they're not Kharedian, they're not uh Chabad or anything like that.
Um between in that spectrum from under the ultra-orthodox to all the way to complete atheists.
Um so they don't I don't have much of an impact from those Haredi people at all.
They don't meet with them.
You see Chabad on the streets, you do see them, um, mostly near my house, because I live near the market, where they're trying to get you to put on fill-in because they want that's that um those leather strap things you see them put on, because their idea is it's messianic that if all Jews put it on every day, the Messiah is gonna come.
That's their belief.
Other Haredi groups think they're lunatics, think that they're not like they think there's something wrong with them.
So um uh how prevalent are they?
I mean, they're there, they're part of the spectrum and tapestry of this place, and then you speak to other religious people and they just roll their eyes at them thinking they're they're silly.
But people have this live and let live attitude towards everything.
So as long as you're not hurting anybody, they don't really care.
Uh I know that Chabad is in pretty tight with Netanyahu and uh in politics.
Um what about the the Temple Mount movement in the the desire to uh move or destroy the dome and rebuild the temple?
Yeah, I've done a few of those.
Um Okay, so yes you do have an actual group of people who are actively talking about rebuilding the temple.
Interestingly enough, and I don't know any statistics on this and I really that I should find out from them because there's a temple institute in Jerusalem.
I've been in they have a little model I've been in there.
If you go to Jerusalem you can find them it's just go ask some questions.
I should ask them that actually almost every okay so first of all if you look at statistics 30% of Israeli Jews are religious and believe that there's hopefully will be a temple someday.
But if you ask should things be destroyed should the m it first of all it's also not the mosque.
It's the Dome of the Rock.
The mosque is off to the side so just so you know Al Aksa Mosque is on the side has there's nothing holy there for Jews.
They don't care about Alaksa.
It's the Dome of the Rock is on the same rock that whatever.
But almost all those Jews who believe in building a third temple also say you could build it next to it, you could build it over it, you could build it.
They they don't have they don't want to necessarily destroy the Dome of the rock.
They don't see a point in that.
They see a point in building the temple.
So Muslims have taken this to they want to destroy Alaksa because every group loves to feel victimized.
Every group likes to feel the enemy is after them.
But the truth is the Jews who want to build the temple and it's not all Jews are uh want to build only want to build the temple they don't want to destroy the Dome of the Rock.
Even within that two thirds of those people believe that the Messiah has to come and then it's going to come down and God decides.
It's actually not supposed to be in human hands.
There are some people and I don't remember the numbers but I I did look them up at one point but it's like I don't know 7% of the country who do believe it should be human hands that build the temple.
I'm kind of making a guess on that that last one but um it's not common I just did a I I did a video it's there I hopefully watched it asking should the temple be built now and you got the all the the the opinions and I only ask ultra orthodox religious Jews.
I ignored 70% of the Jewish population who would just stare at me and go, what are you even talking about?
Sorry, sorry, sorry, wrong.
There were some national religious in there too.
I gave them as a counter, yes.
So I assume that you don't support Netanyahu because you're more liberal and secular.
What do you think of the stalemate over there and would Israel be better off if Gantz got in, do you think?
I can't – okay.
First of all, I can't stand Netanyahu because he's full of ego and he's got no policies.
uh the his his relation to the Orthodox and his relation to these extremists concerns me but it's actually not a a big thing.
It potentially could be a big thing but it isn't actually a big thing.
So in a sense there's not a huge difference between Netanyahu's policies and Gantz's policies and I like Gance I actually think he's a good uh he he would make a very good leader.
So I'm hoping this does turn out that he ends up being the prime minister.
It'll put a fresh face on things.
Netanyahu has this weird cult, which is about 25% of Israelis love him, which I don't get.
Other than he's been very good internationally with he knows how to speak English and to communicate in English.
He's got control over Trump.
That's his big marketing point.
Yes, no control.
There's no control.
Oh, he definitely does.
I have a clip of him basically saying that like I could show it to you um what does he say I've seen I've seen these clips I don't really believe I think Trump just likes Israel and just doesn't like Palestinians.
He just supports Israel he just does he blindly does I don't I print Trump sorry no offense to the getting paid by by Apex and by Sheldon Adelson.
I have no idea I don't know Adelson funds uh Netanyahu as well um he does the him uh him I do know the other stuff I have no idea I don't know and and it doesn't matter there's always people being paid and not being paid I have no idea um the point is that for Israel I'm hoping he doesn't get in um but if he does I know America sometimes has this weird obsession or some people I've read think that once Netanyahu is gone everything's gonna get better.
It's not true.
It's not there's nothing to do with anything.
I don't want him in there because I don't like him because he has no policies, he has no he's only about himself, he cares only about his his being a king.
And I don't like people like that personally.
So I support gants.
Have you seen the video of Netanyahu where he secretly recorded at a West Bank uh in a home in the West Bank and he says like we've got 80% control, they do what we tell them basically, that kind of thing.
It's it's Israeli arrogance.
First of all, don't take it literally, it's nonsense.
I i it's Israeli arrogance, to it's a love to feel we are the top and and we control and we're the best.
And my what I love to do, and I'm gonna do this video about about technology here, that this place is uh as Trump would put it, a ship old country.
It really is.
This is a third world country, has a third world mentality.
It is not it is we are on the lowest of the OECD in terms of development.
It is not um Israelis love to think this is the high tech nation.
It probably is.
I don't see very much at a high tech.
I you know, I still get on the bus and my card, which has a reader, which Israel I think invented, um, doesn't work.
And the chip that's in your in your credit card, nobody here uses because they can't get their act together to actually create chip readers.
Um because we I live in the developing world and nobody here is competent.
That's they invent stuff and there's a few smart people, but this place is very they love to think that they're better than they are, and that is my criticism here, 20 years.
I I could point out 15 examples per day.
I have a woman down the hall, or constant she's Israeli, and I'm constantly running to her with all my stories about how does this country exist.
Nothing is competent here.
No nothing works.
Everything is like you're you might as well be in what c Trump would call a shithole country.
So I think it's funny that Israelis think it's so great, and that Trump thinks this country is so great.
It's a wonderful country.
I'm not trying to put down the country.
It's great in a lot of ways.
It is not what people here think it is.
Well, uh I know that the startup nation and cyber security and Tel Aviv and like they're trying to create a new Silicon Valley in uh beer sh beersheba as well.
Yeah, there's a bunch there's a bunch of hubs.
Cyber actually, interestingly enough, cyber security people office is behind this wall.
So I in they the one of them, they have a bunch of offices here.
Are are a lot of the people that are in the high-tech sector, are they like new um new uh immigrants from from Russia?
I've heard that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did.
That I used to work in an high-tech company 2000, 2003, um, when they were hiring anybody, including people who know nothing like me.
Um yes, and everyone I worked with was Russian.
Everyone was from Ukraine or Russian, and a lot of them had worked in the army or had done something with uh computer sciences.
Um in the IDF army or in the Russian army.
No, no, no, no, the Russian army or something.
So Russian army people are coming to Israel and getting in tech companies.
I'm saying in the in the in the 90s, a lot of Russians came.
Some had been in the army, some had worked in universities, some i i they had a brain drain, and some of them came to Israel, some of them went through Israel to other countries, but Israel got a lot of their very educated people.
I I I don't want to connect, like I don't know about the Russian army, but there were I met a few people who had been in the army, of course, because you had to do army service.
Um but uh I was in an old pun in 1995, and everyone, there were 300 students.
I was it was me and a Finnish woman and a British guy and 300 Russians, and every one of them had a master's degree or a PhD, every one of them.
I had a BA.
There was me, the Finnish woman, and the British guy.
We only had BAs.
They all had masters and PhDs.
So Israel, yeah, it it it really did help.
I mean, they entered uh tech sectors, um development, um a lot of those areas.
So yeah, it did help them.
It's not the only people.
I don't want to say they're all Russian because it's not, but but it did help.
But a large portion of the tech sector is is from Russia.
The the relationship, how do Israelis view uh Putin in Russia?
Favorably?
Oh, probably not.
The Russian Israelis do because um they really like their strong leaders.
Um I think on the right politically they want Putin to because they um because he's the strong leader and hope any and like China, it's a big country, so it helpfully will support Israel.
I think that's the idea.
But see him as uh as in terms of being a leader?
I don't think so.
I haven't asked that question.
It's a good question, though.
I could I could add it.
I could add it from you.
I've never, other than Russian people, I haven't heard many people speaking favorably about it.
Whereas Trump I have heard.
It's about a 50-50 split here of Israelis who think uh Trump is great, or they think he's an idiot.
It's one or the other.
Have you ever asked a question like um in Israel, do who could do you think that uh Israel controls America or or Jews control America?
That would be a good question for for both sides, I think.
It's probably been asked, I just probably ignored it.
I bet you the Palestinians will say yes, and then of course the Israelis I don't ask the same questions all the time.
Uh-huh.
But I mean, all it's if they're all gonna say yes, there's some point in you know even asking.
But yes, I would ask Israelis, yeah.
So you mentioned uh extremists around uh Netanyahu and Ovadia Yosef, the chief Sephardic rabbi uh comes to mind.
It's it is is it disturbing to you that such a high-level respected uh chief Sephardic rabbi with connections to the government, they had a huge funeral for him.
He said incredibly supremacist things, if you've seen his quotes.
He's not such an extremist, by the way, in the context.
He was look, he's Middle Eastern.
He's an Arab man, he's a Jew.
Iraq, he's he's not Spark, he's actually uh Iraqi.
There's Sparta technically means from Spain, but that's a nuance.
It doesn't matter.
He's Rafi, that's the term we use.
Doesn't really matter.
But he was a yes, from the Sparta chief rabbi, they just use that term.
Doesn't matter.
Um he is he comes from an Arab culture and an Arab culture.
Those are the ways you speak about people.
If he was speaking to somebody who was Muslim, they would say, oh yeah, okay, yeah, that's how people speak.
It's not that odd.
For me as a Canadian, I'm offended.
I find him offensive.
Um he's been dead for a long time, but um yeah, of course it bothered me that that that um that people are uh sucking up to populations that say these illiberal um non-democratic, non-humanist things, of course, absolutely.
Does Netanyahu actually think this?
No, I'm sure he doesn't.
I mean he's he actually the the one time he got racist, or the two times, when he said the Arabs are going to the polls, so you you know the Jews should go um should vote, um, was a bit actually surprising.
It's not in character.
He doesn't usually say racist things.
He just cares about his own political career.
So he'll suck up to anybody.
He doesn't care.
And that's something that a lot of people in his Likud party actually slam him on, that he's he's he's going he he's crossing red lines with um uh a dealing with the far right and those people who are even more extremists.
Ovati Yosef wasn't such an extremist.
He was like an old man who had very illiberal views.
Um he said the same thing as that other guy that non-Jews are just here to s to serve them.
Yeah, yeah, it's a concept that comes from which by the way, my first one of my first videos about Neture Carta, the ones who support Palestinians, where he said, of course the non-Jews are gonna be our slaves.
That's what's in the Torah.
Um so it this is this is something thought by people who are very, very religious, and not everybody though.
Some people realize how ugly it is a thing and don't actually believe it.
Mostly if you're a Jew who lives in America, who comes in contact with non-Jews, it seems absurd.
So an interpretation that makes you feel like a better person, of course you're gonna you're gonna think it's okay.
Of course, I find it offensive.
It's disgusting.
I love to argue with them thinking that it's it's barbaric and calling them barbarians for even thinking it.
But um I mean I I get the exact same things from Muslims and from Christians in other contexts.
Not the exact same thing, not that slaves exactly, but every every group loves to think that they're the right ones.
They're the top, and everyone else is wrong, not only wrong, but lower than them in some way.
This is, I agree, is a higher level of that.
Calling people, you're gonna be our slaves when the Messiah comes.
To me, that's that's horribly offensive.
So um you're usually the ones that ask the questions.
Um I know I said an hour, but let's just let's get a couple questions from the chat, maybe.
So uh and everybody uh let's hear them.
Put your questions out, and uh I'll ask uh Corey a few questions.
Uh while while the questions are coming in, why don't you tell everybody uh where they can find you and how they can support your work?
Um ask go on YouTube, um, the Ask Project or ask an Israeli, ask a Palestinian, mainly through YouTube.
Um I have a Facebook page, but uh YouTube is the best way.
I I didn't see a point in doing actually I had a website at one point, but nobody ever visited, so there was no point.
How can you support it?
Send me questions, send me good questions.
Um, Bora Bora.
Uh no, no, no, no.
I uh it's it's my humor of asking people to send baked goods or uh been to go send me to Bora Bora because I do have this obsession with going to the South Pacific.
Um but no, nobody has ever sent me a plane ticket.
Um I have received baked goods.
I will accept coffee.
I'm I'm you you I'm a sucker for coffee.
Uh you can buy me a good cup of coffee, and I'm very happy.
If you have the money, support the project because yes, some of a lot of the videos are monetized, but YouTube periodically can just turn off monetization.
A lot of the videos are too uh mostly if you're asking a question which is controversial, it can't be monetized.
And it costs me money.
It costs me money to travel to these places.
If I'm asking Palestinians, I have a translator.
Um I need to uh a lot of these places, if you want to hear from settlers or Arab Israelis, I have to rent a car to do that because the bus system going to those places is terrible.
Um all that equipment and all that stuff.
So yeah, if you can support financially, I'm I'm always really happy.
Um do they give you trouble at the checkpoints when you try to go into Palestinian areas?
No, first of all, going into Palestinian areas, no, there is no checkpoint.
You walk through, you just walk through.
There's sometimes a uh what do you call it?
Um a turn style thing.
But that's it.
There's no there's no soldiers.
I've seen twice out of the hundreds of times, a hundred and whatever times I've gone in, um, where there were soldiers there, and they would say they were because they were looking for somebody, so they asked for ID, and I'd show them my Canadian ID going in, because an Israeli can't go in there.
Um it's going back in Israel, is where I have to show my Israeli ID.
I can't show my Canadian ID.
And only twice out of a hundreds of times, have somebody said, wait a second, you're an Israeli Jew, and I went, yeah.
And they their response was, oh, you're a leftist.
You're left-wing, you know, like traitor sort of thing.
And I went, okay, sure, why not?
And that was it.
That was all, you know.
I'm I'm an older man, and uh unless I they they care about security.
They don't care about they they're I'm sure they they uh the issue for me going in the West Bank is that I could be kidnapped um or I could be kidnapped or shot or something, and then the army would have to come and save me.
And that would cost the army money and resources, so they just said Israeli Jews cannot go in these areas because there were Jews kidnapped and other people kidnapped in the past.
Um I'm hoping it doesn't happen.
That's uh my hope.
Do you ever hear uh people or Jews talking about Noahide laws?
Yeah, the ultra-orthodox, yeah, yeah, sure.
The Koreadi, the curls, yeah, yeah, they talk about that.
It's a big thing.
If you say something like I tell them a lot, I'm not Jewish.
I I do that a lot.
Because I like to see people's opinions uh just to get their views.
And I always get the the little card from the from the Habad people of the Noahide laws.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Okay, here's a question.
Um what do you think about the Ashkenazi Kazarian theory?
Uh well, I see, I mean, I'm not a geneticist and I'm not a historian in that sense.
Like, I don't know.
There seems to be no real proof of this because I had a genetic test done, my whole family did, uh, a lot of my friends did, and all of our tests came back almost the same.
We're Ashkenazi Jews.
Our paternal line comes from the Levantine, we're J2, Haplo group.
Um the maternal line for most people, most not all Ashkenazi Jews, but a lot of them, is somewhere in Europe.
Excuse me.
So that means maternal maternal maternal, eternal paternal eternal, and of course they intermixed.
There is Very few people who have show any relation to anything in that Georgia caucus area.
So there is a little bit, there's like one group that I think Netanyahu was part of of all people.
The what?
His name was Milikowski before he changed it to Netanyahu, which means God's gift, I believe.
Netanyahu, yeah, God gave me a gift.
Yeah, yeah, God's gift.
Yes, it's very fitting for him, but Net Netanyahu is not that odd in Hebrew, but yes, for him, with his ego, it makes sense.
Um, it wasn't he, he didn't change his name, it was his father or grandfather, something like that.
Um, but apparently he comes from an e-haplo group, which may be related or whatever.
Anyways, the point is, no, I don't see that as being born out in science.
In fact, I've asked some geneticists, and all the uh studies that show this, including there's an Israeli guy who showed this, um, have not been peer-reviewed.
And I'm not saying it can't be true, I'm just saying it doesn't seem uh I I haven't seen any proof, sorry.
Okay.
Um if anything, I've seen proof that we are from here.
Even if someone they figure things out in 10 years that the Ashkenazi Jews are actually not related to Levantine people, for some odd reason something happens, it was all a conspiracy.
I would say, okay, I'd shrug my shoulders and say that's nice.
It won't make any difference in terms of Israelis and being Israeli because people are here, they're Israeli.
They live here, they feel a part of this place, and they feel it's their culture.
So it's about I get that question a lot, not just about me, but as but to ask Israelis.
Oh, okay.
And I did an early video.
It's one of the videos I asked.
Oh, okay.
I I think I remember seeing that one.
So next question.
Um can you understand why a lot of Americans are angry that uh Zionist organizations and the Christians are just so for Israel, you know, like all the aid and it, you know, it's illegal to boycott Israel, it's illegal to criticize Israel's the agenda.
I have no problem with boycotts.
My I have a problem with BDS, particularly because of what they're asking for.
So if you're asking for peace, and if you're asking for us to live together in some way, I I'm you can boycott all you want.
I have no problem.
I have an issue with BDS because that's not what they're asking for.
But that's all that's a different issue.
Well, of course.
Okay.
You can answer this for question first.
Sure.
Um so yes, of course, of course, of course.
Um the American um contribution to the Israeli military, which is what all the money goes to.
It's uh Israel buys the their weapons from America with 3.8 billion dollars now, but it was a little less before, but doesn't matter.
Um 3.8 billion dollars is 4% of the current budget per year.
Um 4% is not much.
It's nice.
Not saying it's not bad, but it's it's not a lot.
I personally have no problem living without it.
Um I know I asked this question.
I I don't remember.
I do remember a lot of Israelis going, no, no, no, we need that money.
We need that money.
Apex seems to think it's important.
APAC is a bun is is a group of Jewish Americans who want a strong Israel.
Um it's they want Netanyahu.
They're they're like Netanyahu's arm, the Likud's arm, from what I've seen.
I I don't know.
I don't know if they if they I mean they're probably they're probably more right wing, obviously, than right left one.
Absolutely.
I actually know people who are free back now that I think about it, who are not right wing, but that doesn't matter.
Um they they feel it just like you have uh um a group, if you were Irish and you wanted to support I peace in Ireland, and you felt this well, it's even more than that because Jews feel they came from here, and so they want to make sure that their people are safe.
That's the idea.
Now I think they're also looking at it in this weird skewed way.
They don't actually understand Israel very well, and yes, any um what they think is is uh criticism of Israel is seen as anti-Semitism, I agree, it's silly, it doesn't make sense, you can criticize, it's okay to criticize, I have no problem with that.
Um so yeah, I I roll my eyes at a lot of this stuff too.
And I wish actually, just for the sake of so people like you guys don't get so worked up.
Yeah, I don't think um US should have anything to do with Israel.
I think this is between us and the Palestinians, and we have to work it out ourselves.
I'm happy to have countries who support us in that and aren't against us, but that's to me the limit.
That's personally what I want.
Now, Israelis love the support because Israelis feel Like they're always each side feels that the world hates them.
They really do.
Palestinians think everyone's against them.
Israelis think everyone is against them.
They really believe this stuff.
So when there's Trump and there's APAC, they're like, oh, somebody's finally, finally paying attention to us, finally supporting us.
Now you might think, and I actually agree that that's ridiculous, because a lot of people support Israel.
I would agree with that.
But it when you're in a conflict, when you're you feel you've been victimized some at some point, or you're victimized daily, you can't see clearly.
You don't see it that way.
So that's the reason.
So yes, if it was me, I would cut off all American aid.
I think it's silly.
Um but and I think it's too much of a cost.
By the way, out of it's a drop in your bucket, American bucket.
It's nothing.
And but I think it could go to better things.
It also supports the military uh of the US.
So there's an American base here and the relationship is more than just aid.
It's like the the Christians support them for the theological reasons.
They want Jesus to return to this.
And Jews or sorry, religious Jews, uh secular Jews don't have don't really care.
Religious Jews have picked up on the idea that there's an ulterior motive here.
That the that the Christians want the Jews to believe in Jesus.
And they're that's not a very nice thing to do.
It's like going to some other religion and saying, no, no, no, what you believe is wrong.
You have to believe what I believe.
And so uh I get that every so often.
Every so often I hear that from religious Jews going, I'm a little suspicious of all the support.
I'm happy about this award.
I'm a little suspicious about it.
You should be suspicious because they want uh it they want Jesus to return to defeat the Antichrist, which they think is gonna be the Moshiach, and then they're gonna eat all the Jews are gonna die or be converted.
So it's like both sides are working with each other.
By the way, the Muslims have a very similar end time view, and they think that Israel's doing this too.
There's a whole Muslim thing going on too, which uh was surprising to me, but yeah.
So so that's what I'm against.
I'm against the Christians supporting Israel because they're trying to fulfill their end times prophecies and and the prophecies of Zionism, like the the and the religious extremist Zionists have disturbing views for the future of the world that I never want them to, you know, make happen.
Well, they don't they don't have any I mean those people who say the Jews will be uh then sorry, the Goyim, the the non-Jews will be the slaves, have very little political uh clout.
I mean, they're but Ovadia Yosef was the right wing, but they don't have a lot of real like my life is not affected by them in any way, really.
Yeah, right now though, I'm thinking like you know, in the future, if we keep heading it the trajectory that our uh the design is.
Yeah, but everybody everyone loves that the the sky is falling uh uh thing.
I I don't see the the dynamics that are happening today were happening in 1920 and in 1900.
It's the similar dynamics, not a lot has changed.
There's a few things that have changed.
That's not one of them.
I mean, there's there are more Israeli, sorry, there are more uh uh religious people in Israel today than there were 50 years ago, 60 years ago, and they are growing a little bit, but they also 50 years ago would warn about how they're gonna take over.
It hasn't happened.
So maybe a lot have incredible influence though, with Netanyahu.
No, you're you're putting too much in the world.
They do in a they do in America, they have a lot of influence.
And they were just, did you see that how they sacrificed the the goat at the temple mount the other day?
No, they sacrificed a Sanhedrin guy did it.
This you know the uh the new Sanhedrin guy.
Uh well, there isn't a Sanhedrin, but there might be somebody who thinks he's part of the San Andrew.
But okay.
They're affiliated with Temple Institute, and they've even got a connection with Netanyahu, but that I saw right after they sacrificed the goat, they had uh the Chabad rabbi was right there talking to the guy that did the sacrifice.
They seem serious about rebuilding.
I'm sure they're serious.
There's lots of kooks in this country.
But you're putting a lot of uh power in in very fringe people, and I I I not a really good idea.
Now, of course, I have my eyes on these people because I don't want them in any kind of power.
I find it offensive that I have to go that things that they say, and I have to run into these people when I go to it's mostly in Jerusalem.
If you're on the coast, you would never hear about them from these people.
You hear from Chabad, but not but not those people.
Um I don't know.
That's not my it's not my world, so I I don't think they have much influence on what goes on here.
Alright, Corey.
Well, I really appreciate you coming on and taking the time.
It was an interesting discussion, and I and I really appreciate your work.
I I hope that moderates like you and others can keep the extremists in check over there and that we we can uh change the direction of the ship and start moving towards peace instead of more uh more uh conflict.
Sure.
I I hope so.
Any last words and uh uh from you before we close out?
No, watch the videos and uh um yeah oh I didn't say I was we were talking about support.
Another thing is if you come, uh contact me through the video, like at the end of the videos, there's uh there's a Gmail address and come ask questions yourself.
You can argue with people.
So if you come, you can ask your conspiracy theories about September 11th.
Go ahead.
I have no problem.
You could talk about it and and you know, get and and you could pick the people, whatever you want.
It's fine with me.
I'll put it up.
Maybe that we'll be able to find somebody that says that they think they did it.
Maybe maybe you will.
Who knows?
I've you know what?
Every time I say nobody says this, like the whole thing about the river to the Nile, and then you know, three months later I meet one guy who does.
Turned out he was a homeless guy, but it doesn't matter.
He actually Well, that that's actually in the Old Testament.
It says it says between the two rivers.
Yes, but it says your um your descendants and the descendants of well, this was Abraham.
Technically, that's true.
The Arabs are the descendants of Abraham, if you if you believe the Bible.
So it's technically true today.
The question is, there's some Jews, it turns out, who actually do believe it should belong to Jews, um, but it turns out it's not a lot of people.