Andrew Klavan argues leftism is inherently violent, citing the Trump assassination attempt and Brian Thompson's murder as proof that media outlets like CNN normalize criminal rhetoric. He traces this philosophy from Lacenaire to Robespierre, claiming the rejection of God necessitates societal perfection through force. Despite record-low consumer sentiment fueled by AI fears and war, Klavan asserts corporate profits remain robust, suggesting negative narratives are manufactured socialist agendas. The episode concludes by critiquing the "interiorization" of morality post-religion and featuring Reagan Conrad's investigative reports on online cults, ultimately framing modern chaos as a result of ideological decay rather than economic reality. [Automatically generated summary]
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Leftist Violence and Moral Chaos00:04:22
You know, after the recent assassination attempt on the President of the United States by a leftist, and the previous assassination attempt by another leftist, and the one before that also by a leftist, and the murder of Charlie Kirk by a leftist, and the murder of two Jewish people in Washington, D.C. by a leftist, and the fatal George Floyd riots by leftists in Minneapolis, Detroit, Oakland, St. Louis, Chicago, Indianapolis, Louisville, and Seattle, not to mention the persistent leftist rioting at conservative political speeches,
the leftist terrorizing of Jews on campus, and the leftist assault of Immigration officers during the performance of their duties.
Some of you may have begun to believe that leftism is a murderously violent movement, but to say that is to discount the incidence of violence by right wingers, like attending Latin Mass or attempting to stop the murder of unborn children, or the riots in Charlottesville, Virginia, by right wingers paid by leftists at the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Also, speech is violence, and all across America, there are many right wingers speaking, even as we, you know, speak, proving the point.
So, Just because virtually every act of political violence in America is committed by leftists, and just because powerful leftist outlets like CNN, NBC, and the New York Times, a former newspaper, platform commentators who justify that violence by claiming the victims deserved it, and just because such outlets also encourage that violence by calling ordinary Republicans Nazis or by blaming the inherent unfairness of life on capitalism or systemic racism,
and thereby justifying criminal activity from looting to murder, some people may have begun to feel that.
Leftists are little more than sadistic psychopaths, dressing their vicious brutality and self-deceiving displays of virtue and a torturous abuse of language that makes evil sound good and good sound evil, while simultaneously strangling the voice of their own consciences with theoretical rationalizations in the manner of every low criminal who has shed blood since Cain killed Abel and then shrugged it off like some kind of leftist who hasn't got the moral insight of a hyena after the hyena became a leftist.
And of course, that would be a terrible thing to say about leftists.
After all, they might get angry and kill you.
They're obviously lunatics.
But really, political violence is a problem for both sides conservatives and murderous psychopaths alike.
So I believe it's time for all of us to come together in dialogue, although probably over the phone so the conservatives don't get their heads blown off.
We should begin by trying to understand what it is in the leftist worldview that might make them think that violating the most basic moral precepts of every civilized society is justified here in America, where everything is basically fine.
See, conservatives are under the impression.
That human beings are God made and yet fallen creatures, so that while liberty is their birthright, it can only survive in a society where people adhere to the Judeo Christian moral code that has brought us from the Dark Ages to a high watermark of wealth, health, and comfort.
But leftists understand that for the first time in human history, they alone are woke to the wickedness of their ancestors, and therefore perfectly positioned to transform our nation into a utopia if they can simply slaughter everyone who gets in their way.
For example, leftists are woke to the fact that racism is wrong and it's all the fault of those lousy white people.
Leftists see that women and men are completely equal so that men can become women if you just cut off all their body parts and reassemble them in a grotesque Frankenstein like imitation of whichever sex they want to be.
Leftists understand that no person is illegal so that migrants should be able to live anywhere as long as it's far away from them.
And leftists know that what democracy looks like is some loony dame screaming, This is what democracy looks like.
while an angry mob threatens anyone who disagrees.
So don't be too quick to condemn our leftist friends.
Listen to what they have to say, think things through, then condemn them.
Then run for your life.
Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Clavin, and this is The Andrew Clavin Show.
All right, here we are again laughing our way through the imminent fall of the Republic.
Strange Comments on Nutrition Capsules00:02:58
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Just leave the comment there even in your own sick imaginations and we will come and get it.
We can do it.
We can reach into your very mind and take the comments off there.
And if those comments are, you know, as evil as you look, We will happily put them on the air because we just want to destroy everything in our wake.
Today's comment comes from, it looks like, Andre Steph Hartman.
And the comment is, I sometimes put off watching the new episode in a vain attempt to postpone Clavenlessness only to realize that I am inadvertently extending my current state of Clavenlessness, at which point my family finds me hunched over in a closet murmuring about the end of days, trumpets, and sexy fossils.
That's a very strange comment, but I believe you.
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And I just want to say get help quickly, and I'm glad that you left this comment in your obviously fetid imagination.
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Chapter One The Oldest Idea in the World.
The Left's Unconscious Intent to Divert00:15:39
First of all, let me just say that I'm just back from the Edgar Awards, the Mystery Writers of America, two days of.
Panels and parties, basically, and more parties, and then other parties, and then the banquet.
And then there was an after party, which I didn't go to because I had to get up this morning very, very early to get on a train to come back here to do the show and write the show on the train.
So if I seem like a little bit discombobulated, or if I look like a boot just stomped on my face forever, like in 1984, that's why.
But it was enjoyable to be among my fellow mystery writers.
Again, and Kingdom of Cain, the book that was nominated, my book, Kingdom of Cain Finding God in the Literature of Darkness, which I'm sure you've read by now, or else obviously you'll be punished through all eternity by an angry God.
But it didn't win.
I'd never expected it to win.
and a literal, you know, there's the Edgar Allan Poe Awards and a literal biography of Edgar Allan Poe won.
So it was kind of no harm, no foul.
I think that was more in their wheelhouse than a book exploring God, how to find God in literature of darkness.
But Kingdom of Cain did win a different prize because while I was gone, obviously there was an attempt on the life of the president yet again.
And Kingdom of Cain won the prize for the book most likely to say something important about the violence on the left because it really does talk about.
radical violence and why people begin to feel that murder is okay.
And I'm sure, listen, I've been following the conversation that flowed out of the assassination attempt at the White House correspondence dinner.
Obviously, I'm sure you all know the story.
The guy, you know, it was a leftist with a kind of a manifesto that called Trump all the things that the press has been insinuating that he is, checked into the hotel, which is, I think, the Washington Hilton where Reagan was shot many years ago.
And made a charge at the Secret Service who opened fire on him, missed him, but he seemed to have tripped and fell down.
And then they got him.
And thank heavens, nobody was really hurt.
And I've listened to everything that people said.
And I didn't want to just add, I don't want to add to the noise either on the show or on X or anywhere that I'm hanging out.
But I did feel that I have something to say about this that is much different than what everybody has to say.
And I think I want to talk about that.
I mean, usually the conversation after one of these incidents falls into a very familiar pattern, which is, first of all, it's very quickly.
Derailed into first hurling blame at the left, and then it hurls blame at the media for covering up for the left.
And then the media starts lying like the leftist dirtbags that they are covering up for the left, making everybody even more angry about that.
And then the screaming gets into this argument about whose rhetoric is more violent.
And then these outlandish conspiracy theories rise up that, you know, after Charlie Kirk, obviously it was Candace Owens with this disgusting.
absolutely disgusting rant on accusing Erica Kirk of being involved in his murder.
And that very cleverly, almost as if this is what it intended to do, it divided people on the right so that they were arguing, you know, oh, Candace is our, well, really was divided between people like me who called her out right away and other people whom I won't name who dithered because they don't want to lose the audience of crazy people who are listening to her rant and rave about absolutely nothing that can be, you know, substantiated in any way, shape, or form.
Those conspiracy theories, I think they actually, at some level, may have the point of distracting from the fact that the left is very violent.
And now, this time, there's some stupid theory that the whole thing was staged.
And obviously, it's very expensive to stage these things because you have to pay a guy to go to prison for life.
And if he gets the chair, obviously, it's time and a half.
And this was even put out there last week, I was talking about that film, Crime. 101.
I did a whole segment about Crime 101, which was based on the novel by Don Winslow.
And I was saying he's a very talented crime writer, but he is a wild leftist, not just hating Trump.
He really hates America, I think.
And he always blames America for whatever crime occurs, even if it's Mexicans smuggling drugs.
And he was actually promulgating this thing that it was all staged.
And he's too smart for that.
So shame on him.
And I think that, you know, but I think the point is to get us riled up, to distract us.
So we start arguing about this thing and that thing.
You know, it's everybody gets distracted, and then we're all back in the eternal now of the internet, and we've forgotten it, and more news comes down the pike, and nobody got killed, so it's not as big a story as it would be, and we just kind of forget about it.
And that's one of the reasons they wanted that picture of Donald Trump with his fist in the air and the flag in back, and they wanted to put that away.
They didn't give it the Pulitzer Prize when it's obviously an iconic photo that's going to be with us for decades and decades and decades to come.
They want us to forget all about it.
And so I think a lot of these things are intentionally meant, even if Even if it's unconscious, with unconscious intent, to divert from the issue, which is the larger theory of what's happening and the fact that the left is violent.
And I want to put forward a larger theory because I think what's happening in the country can be dangerous, but I also think it's defeatable.
I think it's not fatal.
We can stop it and obviously win this fight over the minds of the voters and the minds of the public and the mind of the country as a whole, but we have to start with.
The left is violent.
Leftism is violent.
We don't have to debate this.
It's ridiculous.
They can point to January 6th.
And listen, I lost a lot of listeners condemning Trump on January 6th, but I still think he was in the wrong.
He was reckless with people.
And yes, I know the left abused the moment and made it into something worse than the Civil War.
It was nonsense.
It was kind of just a way of crushing the people who support Trump, and it was disgusting and authoritarian.
But the original thing was reckless.
So you don't let that happen to people.
Many of whom were just ordinary people who came out because Trump told them to come out.
And I thought he acted badly.
And I just, because the left was vicious and wrong, doesn't mean the action was right.
But, but, as a right wing, middle right event, it was an anomaly.
That is not something you see from right wingers.
And the fact is, you know, the far right, yes, can the far right be violent?
Of course, but there are no far right people in America.
Every time they have a gathering of the far right, it's 20 guys in polo shirts milling around, wondering where everybody else is.
We have a center right country.
I mean, a very strong center right country.
And then we have a left that has been completely taken over by leftism.
So after the White House correspondence dinner attack, Batya Ungersargen, our friend, debunked several studies showing that violence comes from the right because that's obviously been this thing that they've been having.
Another study, every study shows.
And she just picked these things apart.
Here's just a little bit of Batya picking this study apart.
It literally does not have Charlie's assassination in its tally of.
Political violence, nor does it have either of the, at the time, two assassination attempts on the president.
It lists every single person who blocks access to an abortion clinic, but not a single person who vandalized anything during the George Floyd riots, did any kind of property damage, nor does it list any of the 24 Americans who were murdered during the George Floyd riots.
That's an amazing thing, what she's saying, but we don't even need, I mean, yeah, it's great that she did that work.
For everybody, but we don't need the studies.
Our eyes and our common sense tell everything we need to know.
There's nothing on the right like the steady stream of riots at universities that took place for years.
It's tapered off a little bit now.
Anytime somebody with a conservative worldview got up to speak, I mean, Ben saw it in spades.
Even I saw it.
I, as you know, am the most delightful person on earth with the mildest possible attitude toward everyone I despise.
And yet, even I had a riot at one of my speeches.
And this happened a lot.
To people who were injured, that doesn't happen.
I mean, the riots on the streets don't happen.
You don't see conservatives, let's go out and have a conservative riot.
Does not happen.
These repeated assassination attempts, the ghoulish celebration of the slaughter in Israel on October 7th, there's nothing on the right like that.
And there's nothing on the right like the mainstream.
We're talking about the mainstream, right?
If you look at the mainstream conservatism, there's nothing like the mainstream approval of those actions in the media, in the academy, in Hollywood.
And there was just this perfect example of Trump versus Nora O'Donnell on.
Where is she?
CBS, I think.
CBS.
And Nora O'Donnell confronts Trump with the manifesto of this crazy man who tried to kill him.
And the things that, what's fascinating about the things the crazy man says is they're all stuff he got out of the press.
They're all stuff he got from people like Nora O'Donnell.
Let's listen to that as a cut to two.
The so called manifesto is a stunning thing to read, Mr. President.
He appears to reference a motive in it.
He writes this Administration officials, they are targets.
And he also wrote this.
I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.
What's your reaction to that?
Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would because you're horrible people.
Horrible people.
Yeah, he did write that.
I'm not a rapist.
I didn't rape anybody.
You're not a pedophile.
You think he was referring to you?
Oh, my gosh.
You think he was referring to you?
Who knew?
Who knew that he was referring to you because he's watching your show?
You know?
I mean, hey, Barry.
Toss this woman.
I mean, that was so sleazy.
That was so, so sleazy.
There's nothing like that.
Look, maybe there's some loudmouth on talk radio or something like that who does this stuff, but that's CBS.
That's mainstream.
That is not what you see Brett Baer doing to people he disagrees with on his show.
That is not what happens on mainstream right wing.
We don't do it here.
That's not something that would happen on this show.
I don't think it would happen on Ben's show.
And there's nothing like the mainstream justification of violence.
Like this abhorrent interview that the New York Times did, a former newspaper, now a skin suit for leftism.
They interviewed this leftist influencer, Hassan Piker, who is just trash.
I mean, he's just a trash guy.
He's a shallow man, he's an angry man, he's an ill educated person.
He knows one thing, but not anything else.
And it was him and a New Yorker writer, which is amazing, Gia Tolentino.
And the interviewer asked about the glee surrounding the murder of healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
He was shot in the back in New York.
As you know.
And here's Piker's response to that, Cup Three.
Engels wrote about the concept of social murder.
And Brian Thompson, as the United Healthcare CEO, was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder, the systematized forms of violence, the structural violence of poverty, the for profit, paywalled system of healthcare in this country.
And the consequences of that are.
Tremendous amounts of pain, tremendous amounts of violence, tremendous amounts of deaths.
And that was a fascinating story for me because Americans are very draconian about crime and punishment.
They're very black and white on this issue.
And yet, because of the pervasive pain that the private healthcare system had created for the average American, I saw so many people immediately understand why this death had taken place.
So, what a crappy little thing to say about a murdered man, you know, truly, who was a businessman and nothing else in any business, insurance business that's been regulated to pieces by the government so that the insurance people can't make any money unless they behave badly.
It really starts with the government in the insurance business, so that's why things go bad.
But forget all that.
It's that word structural, it's the structural problem.
In other words, poverty has existed in every society on earth forever, but here there's a structure that makes it happen.
And now we've got the answer.
We're going to change that structure.
That's the thing you have to keep in mind.
In that, there's all of this is from the left.
It's all from the left, and there's no reason to debate it or argue about it or get upset when they cover it up because they're the guys doing it.
They can't expect the thug who is doing it to say, Yes, we are thugs and we're doing it.
The only way, especially with the media, but also with the academy, also with Hollywood, is the only way to stop them is to beat them.
The only way to beat them is to fulfill the role they're supposed to fulfill to report the news, to build entertainment, to teach the young.
Those are things that we have to do, and if we don't do them, you can't complain about the fact that they do them.
In their poisonous way.
So let's just forget all that, forget all the anger about that, and just get to the fact that the left is violent.
Well, why?
Because people act in accordance with the ideas that are in their head, the way they imagine the world.
That is how people behave, right?
You treat your wife a certain way because you imagine her to be a faithful, loving person who has been a great help to you in the world.
And now there are forces within us that move us to imagine the world wrongly desire, hatred, anger, envy.
All of these things make us think.
This guy is after me, and my wife is cheating on me when she's not, and all that.
Whatever it is, you imagine the world wrongly, and they distort reality in all kinds of ways.
You can convince yourself that you're in love with someone because you lust after them or because you want to be in love with somebody.
So this is the person who you love, even though they're not actually lovable.
You can convince yourself that the Jews, the blacks, or the whites are to blame for everything because you don't know how to run your life.
Or if you had only had a break, you would have been a rock star because you don't want to face that.
The fact that you don't have that much talent, all kinds of things that you can imagine that are wrong.
But if your imagination is completely out of whack, then you're one of those guys who's sitting on the sidewalk with a broken cell phone talking to Mars, and then you're crazy, right?
But there's also something called that's individuals, but there's also something called the social imaginary.
This is a phrase that was invented by a sociologist a long time ago, and that's the way that the society in general imagines the world, and that's shaped by the society's religion, it's shaped by its ideals, its traditions.
The things that it feels are important and good and bad, and all of that.
And the more in keeping with reality that the social imaginary is, the more healthy and happy and peaceful your society will be.
And society is just like people, they can go crazy too, and for the same reasons.
You know, like Nazi Germany went crazy, Soviet Russia was acted insanely in the caliphate in Iraq and Syria, run by ISIS, France after the French Revolution.
The imagination of what they were doing and why they were doing it, why they could do it, was totally outside, disconnected from reality.
And then when a society goes crazy, Then the people who are talking to Mars on their cell phones are running the place.
They're in the big house and things get very dangerous.
God Is Dead and Morality Invents Itself00:09:06
Now, the imaginary world of leftism is inherently violent.
And while I said extreme rightism is also violent, we just don't have a lot of it in this country.
If we did, I'd be talking about that because what do I care whether I get stomped on by the left or the right?
But the imaginary of leftism is different because we have a few people who are right wingers and they're influencers and they have big.
Make big noises and then they kind of disappear because nobody actually believes in them.
But the imaginary of leftism, the social imaginary of leftism, is being spread by mainstream news outlets, mainstream entertainment makers, mainstream universities, Ivy League universities, and those ideas ultimately lead to violence.
That's what makes the left violence.
And it's not about the rhetoric.
This is the thing that really bothers me about this discussion.
It is a distraction because we all have tough rhetoric in this country.
Free people tend to scream at each other politically.
We all do it.
We've said things about Obama that were over the top.
I'm not saying it's all equal.
The difference is why you're using that rhetoric.
What is the idea in your imagination behind that rhetoric?
So Trump is Hitler and Obama's a secret Muslim or whatever it is.
But what's the idea that is making you talk like that?
It's the ideas that spawn the rhetoric that make for violence or not violence.
And this is where we can turn to the Edgar nominated but not victorious book, Kingdom of Cain.
And, you know, I'm not going to quote myself, but I'm going to quote myself talking about other thinkers and philosophers.
The idea of the book is to study murders that have inspired works of art and works of philosophy and find out why and how they inspire people.
And in the book, I deal with the first murder I deal with is a murder in France by a man named Pierre Lacenaire, who was just a kind of a thief and a con man, and he killed.
a fellow thief and con man and then went on to murder his ailing mother who was lying in bed and he smothered her to death and stabbed her.
It was terrible stuff, but it was just a petty, ugly crime.
But Lassener himself was a very elegant, very well-spoken man.
And he became the toast of Paris, just like this guy who killed the insurance CEO.
Exactly the same thing because like that guy, like Hassan Piker, he framed this low-life murder that he committed and he got away with a couple of francs, not that much money.
He claimed it was Social commentary.
He wrote a memoir while he was in prison waiting to be guillotined.
He wrote a memoir and he said, Do you think the blood of 10 or 20 would have sufficed me?
Never.
It was the social structure I wanted to strike at in its foundations, in its rich folks, its harsh and egotistical rich.
So he was Hassan Piker, except he had the guts to actually kill somebody and was guillotined as he well deserved.
Now, the point of Kingdom of Cain is that these things go in a chain of ideas.
So this murder helped to inspire Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment.
Where a depressed young man convinces himself that special people like him are above morality and therefore can commit murder.
And Dostoevsky inspired Nietzsche.
Nietzsche loved the writing of Dostoevsky.
And Nietzsche famously wrote a scene in which a madman told the public square, God is dead, and those who murder God have to become God because without God there's no moral structure.
So there must arise supermen or a superman who will deconstruct morals.
You know, take them apart and show you that they're not based in heaven because God is dead.
They're just things that we make up.
And He will transvalue all values and replace this kind of Pulene Jesus stuff where you help the poor and the weak and just make strength, you know, which is natural, just make strength the morality.
In other words, man will invent his own morality because God is dead.
Now, some of you who have read your Bible will recognize this chain of thought.
We want to be in charge of the knowledge of good and evil, not God.
We want to be like God.
Knowing good and evil.
It's the original sin of Adam and Eve.
It's what they did in the Garden of Eden.
And in John Milton's famous retelling of the Garden of Eden, the story of the fall, he wrote a massively famous epic poem called Paradise Lost.
That idea that you can reinvent morality, that God is not in charge of morality, you are, starts with Satan.
Satan gets thrown out of heaven and he says, Well, never mind God because the mind, my mind is its own place and can make.
Heaven into hell or hell into heaven.
So I can transform this hell you're throwing in into, I'll make it into heaven.
But Satan discovers in the poem that that's not the way it works because God's logos is the logos.
So, when you leave it, you're left with nothing but infinite despair, and your mind actually becomes hell.
Your mind does not transform hell into heaven, your mind is transformed into hell.
Since Eden, this mindset has come up again and again in history.
I talked about France, where the Jacobins were so convinced they were going to rewrite the world, they unleashed the terror, right, with a clear conscience.
Here's Robespierre, who was the guy who ran the terror in France, where there were guillotine people like crazy, and he said, The first maxim of your policy ought to be to lead the people by reason and the people's enemies, which is everyone I disagree with, by terror.
If the mainstream of popular government in peacetime is virtue amid revolution, it is at the same time virtue and terror.
Virtue without which terror is fatal, terror without which virtue is impotent.
Terror is nothing but prompt, severe, inflexible justice.
It is therefore an emanation of virtue.
So we are so virtuous that we have the right to kill people.
This is the idea of the guy who has left God behind, decided he's in charge.
Of morality.
There's a book by a famous French philosopher, Albert Camus.
He wrote a book called The Rebel, where he talks about how the loss of faith.
Camus was an agnostic, I guess.
He had a relationship with Catholicism.
He respected Catholicism, but he never really became a Catholic.
He talks about in his book how the loss of faith leads to political radicalism and murder.
He says, If you believe in a good God, then the problems in life must be the fault of humanity, it must be your sin, and you accept the idea that you are sinful and need forgiveness.
And that's the idea of the founders.
The founders said, you know, we're sinful people.
We're not angels.
We need a government, but the government has to be constrained because the government has sinful people in it, too.
And that's the way conservatives think.
And that's the way people who want to conserve the founding, like me, that's the way we think about human beings.
But without a good God, Camus said, you imagine man is good and he's capable of perfection and capable of perfecting the world.
And despite the fact, and so you have the right, as Robespierre said, to kill the people who get in the way because you're perfecting.
Perfecting the world.
What's a couple of lives here and there if you can perfect the world?
Every communist said this when the Soviet Union, when they thought the Soviet Union was going to be the future, they said, well, people have to, you've got to break some eggs if you're going to make an omelet of perfection.
That's what they said again and again.
So even though this fails, revolutionary France, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, the caliphate we just had under Obama that the ISIS made in Iraq and Syria, every time John Milton and Paradise Lost are right, we don't transform the world into heaven, we are transformed into hell.
Everything becomes bloodletting.
And Eden is just in our blood.
We keep doing it again and again.
The left thinks they are new and progressive, but truly, leftism is the single oldest idea in the world.
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Chapter two, Reality Lost.
The other day I did – the other week I did an interview with two lovely British writers, Joe Bartosz and Robert Jessel, absolutely charming people who had written a book about pornography and the pornography business.
And we had this very civil conversation in which at one point we discussed our differences because they were more coming from a leftist point of view and a feminist point of view, and I obviously am not.
And when we posted it, somebody on X said, we used to be able to talk like this.
What happened?
And that happened after this White House correspondence dinner attack on Trump that people looked at this unfunny, the unfunny nastiness of Jimmy Kimmel making a joke about Melania looking like an expectant widow, which he says was a joke.
This is before the attack, to be fair, which he says was a joke about the fact that Trump was old, and that's probably true.
It probably is what it was.
But he didn't apologize for it and just basically spat.
in Trump's eye.
But people compared this to the elegance and style of Johnny Carson, who was the king of late night comedy.
He was the kind of gold standard of late night comedy for many years.
And when Reagan was shot in 1981, Carson was hosting the Oscars.
They were going to postpone the Oscars because the president had been shot.
And this is a president that all of Hollywood hated.
Reagan, they just thought he was a beast and it was going to blow up the world.
But here's just a little bit of Carson's speech when they decided not to postpone the Oscars, which Carson was hosting, as I say.
They decided not to postpone it because the president was fine, was going to recover.
Here's Carson making a speech to an audience filled with leftist Hollywood people.
Cut five.
As of this time yesterday, it would have been inappropriate to stage a celebration.
But the news today is very good, as you know.
The president is in excellent condition at last reports.
He's been conducting business.
And he is, uh, and he happens to be in very good spirits.
Uh, after all, you must remember this is a man who, yesterday, while he was in the hospital unable to speak, wrote on a sheet of paper, All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia.
And the audience laughed because, you know, Reagan, they were putting out all these things that Reagan was saying, who was always very witty guy.
So, what's the difference?
And no, it's not Donald Trump.
It's not, you know, Donald Trump is a symptom of the difference.
He is not the difference himself.
The difference is the Soviet Union.
And we live in this world, as I said, it's the eternal now of the internet.
where history is forgotten like that.
It's forgotten while it's happening.
But the fact of the Soviet Union, I was there, not in the Soviet Union, but I was there at the time.
You have to remember that the left thought this was it.
This was the new age.
The utopia had come.
The New York Times covered up the absolute genocide taking place in Ukraine because the correspondent there was a communist.
He said, this is the words he spoke.
He said, you have to break some eggs, meaning tens of millions of people have to be starved to death if you're going to make the omelette of perfect.
Socialism.
You have to break some eggs if you're going to make an omelet.
And its collapse was a catastrophe.
It was like a house of cards that they thought was a palace came tumbling down.
And the fact that Bernie Sanders has not understood that after all these years, because it's happened again and again in little ways all throughout history, everywhere it's been tried, means there's something wrong with the man.
He's not a well person.
He's not a person whose imagination is in keeping with reality.
He's a person who is willing to imagine reality out.
Of existence.
And so is Zorhan Mamdani, who I believe is actually a truly bad person.
I believe he's a smiling villain.
This is a line in Shakespeare a man can smile and be a villain.
I think that's Zorhan Mamdani.
So, this is the whole idea behind things that have bothered us all, like critical theory.
You know, why do they call it critical theory?
Well, it's critical theory because all you do is criticize things that are imperfect because they can no longer put forward the theory of socialism, which was this is going to be the scientific thing that must happen.
Therefore, if you get in the way, Virtue demands that you be destroyed.
That was the argument originally, but now it turns out, ooh, this doesn't work.
So you have to have another argument.
And the argument is, you're bad.
Things are bad.
And if you can use words like systemic and structural, then it seems that the badness is there to be fixed if only we can get the people who want us to fix it out of the way.
You heard this.
Zorim Landani came out the other day and pointed out a little problem with his plans for New York, which is that New York is broke.
Here's cut seven New York City faces a budget crisis of a historic magnitude.
We inherited a deficit larger than any since the Great Recession.
Years of mismanagement and chronic under budgeting, alongside a structural imbalance between what New York City sends to the state and what we receive in return, have taken a toll.
We cannot close this deficit with savings alone.
We need new revenue.
And we need a structural reset in our relationship with the state.
That is the only way to meet our legal obligation to pass a balanced budget, and to do so without imposing a financial burden onto the backs of working people.
So, what he's saying is, we have to take money from the state where working people live, that you know, farmers and ordinary folks who live up and down the state, which is the other half of New York State.
New York State, I think, population wise, is half the city and half in the country and the smaller cities and all that stuff.
He wants to take money away from them to feed because we can't get rid of, we can't stop spending.
It's like me saying, basically, I can't get out of debt by actually not buying more, by buying less.
I can't get out of debt by actually spending less.
So, you're going to have to give me your money.
That's what it's saying.
And this.
You know, this is what Hassan Piker says in this interview, where he says, Yeah, stealing is fine.
They're stealing from us.
We should steal from them.
Cut six.
Would you steal from the Louvre?
Yes.
I would not be logistically capable of executing such a fact, but would I cheer on every news story of people that I see doing it?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I think it's cool.
We got to get back to cool crimes like that, like bank robberies, right?
Stealing priceless artifacts, things of that nature.
I feel like that's way cooler than the 7,000th new cryptocurrency scheme that people are engaging in.
Yeah, being cool.
That's what we got to be.
We got to be cool.
It's cool.
It's ironic.
We're ironic.
We're cool.
We're cool.
And yet ironic.
And yet ironically cool.
And coolly ironic.
You know, what up, putz?
I mean, come on.
Come on.
When you steal from the Louvre, who are you stealing from?
You're stealing from the people, the people who get to go and see it.
They don't get to go and see it in the thief's house.
Those criminals sell their wares to rich people who keep them walled off from the people.
So they're willing to steal from the people.
But it's all so unfair.
It's all structural.
So you get to do anything you want.
And they don't understand, of course, that the money comes from people.
From enterprise, that government can't create wealth at all.
It can only take wealth.
And what happens when the wealth is gone?
Because why should I create wealth if you're just going to take it away from me?
They don't get it.
It's just a fight with reality.
And because reality always wins, you also have to turn to violence, which is justified.
Which is justified because you are in charge of virtue, because there is no God.
You are the guy who writes the moral rules.
From Satan's fall to Hassan Piker, it's a straight, straight line.
It's the same idea.
Either there's a moral order that restricts our right to act.
So, we shouldn't steal or riot or kill, and we should punish the rich when they do it, and we should punish the poor when they do it, or our vision of paradise is always just one murder away.
Either God is good and we are the sinners, or God is the sinner and we're the good guys.
Those are the only two choices there are, and the left has made this choice, and they are violent, and the violence is inherent in everything they say, everything they think, everything they do.
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That is the question, and the answer is K L A V A N. Chapter three How bad are things?
Now, I saw this.
Story in the Wall Street Journal that really struck me.
The Wall Street Journal is a weird bifurcated paper because its opinion page is good.
It's strong.
It's interesting.
Even when leftists come on to make their arguments, they have to make them with facts and figures.
They have to really make good arguments.
It's got a couple of sentimental nonsense pieces in there all the time.
But most of the arguments are really solid and good.
The news pages are increasingly corrupt.
It's really painful to watch.
Their coverage of the Iran war has been ridiculous.
Their coverage of the economy has been.
Kind of ridiculous, which is why people buy the Wall Street Journal to find out about the economy.
And here is a column that could have been written by Hassan Piker in a way.
Corporate America is minting money, and not just in tech and finance.
Profits grow for many companies in the face of war, rising oil prices, and inflation.
Quote, it's extremely polarized.
Big American companies are piling up profits despite war and consumer anxiety, bolstered by healthy sales growth.
With just over one fourth of SP 500 companies reporting results for the First quarter, Wall Street's expectations for earnings suggest big U.S. companies are far healthier than wider economic concerns might indicate.
Earning growth has been exceptional, says Parag Thata, an equity strategist for Deutsche Bank.
We're seeing the broadening of earning growth beyond just tech and financial firms.
War in the Middle East had led economists to rein in growth projections for the year.
Consumers, along the engine of the U.S. economy, feel solidly in the dumps.
So the economy is great, but consumers feel in the dumps.
High oil prices act like a tax.
Dragging down household consumption while boosting inflation.
So that's the reason they feel bad.
Yet, the biggest U.S. public companies are seeing profit and revenue surge.
And again, here they get back to the consumers.
High prices at the pump are feeding Americans' overall dure mood.
U.S. consumer sentiment hit a record low in April, dragged down by worries about the Iran war, gas prices, job risks from AI, and more.
So listen to this.
They keep bringing up the gas prices, okay?
But listen to the rest of it.
The consumer sentiment hit a record low, dragged down by worries about the Iran war, gas prices, which we've heard about twice now, job risks from AI, and some nebulous more.
Across ages, incomes, and political opinions, today's grim perception of the economy is darker than during any previous crisis since the University of Michigan started tracking sentiment more than 50 years ago.
So that's how low it is.
But wait, overall consumer spending appears robust.
So, you know, the reason they look at consumer confidence is because our economy is floated by consumerism and they want consumer spending to be robust and it is.
So it says, Americans don't appear to be holding back because of the specter of AI displacing white collar jobs.
American Express CEO Stephen Squarey said, we're not seeing any impact at all.
Now, I am always very slow to tell people that their financial situation isn't what they think it is because people know when they don't have enough money, when they can't give their children good Things when they can't take a vacation.
They know these things and they act like they know it and they spend less and they spend in different places and all this stuff.
The Wall Street Journal has been going out of its way to find ways that consumers are not spending, but they are.
They've been going out of their ways to find ways that Trump is destroying the economy, but the economy is going strong.
Today they reported that new housing starts are up, which is a big, big deal that hasn't been happening for a while.
So, what are the things that are keeping consumer attitudes low?
Gas prices, we get it.
Gas prices have gone up.
It's gone up like a buck a gallon, which is a lot of money, especially if you have to drive for work.
It's a lot of money.
And I'm not saying that that's not a real thing.
But everything else was U.S. consumer sentiment hit a record low, dragged down by worries about the Iran war, by job risks from AI, by things that they fear.
And who's spreading the fear?
I mean, who is spreading the fear?
The ordinary person, what does he know about AI in his life right now?
Has a guy next to him lost his job because he's been AI'd out?
Not really.
That's not what we're seeing in the economy.
People keep predicting it's going to happen, but that's the way people are worried about it.
And what about the war?
The war has made gas prices go up.
But right this minute, You know, you can always tell when things are going well for America in a war because they start reporting on the plight of the people we're fighting, right?
The ordinary people, not the military.
So now you're starting to hear things like, things are really bad, painful for people in Iran.
Well, I'm sure they are because Iran has a murderous regime that we had to take down.
And so, you know, this is all about what they are generating worries, risks, fear.
Who's spreading the fear?
The Wall Street Journal.
They are.
They do it.
I read them every day.
I read the Wall Street Journal every day.
Great writing in it sometimes, but not on the news pages.
This is what they do.
So, how much of the dour mood seen in the polls is real if consumer spending isn't down?
People say they're worried, but they know how much money they have and they're spending it, right?
I've been in positions when I haven't had a lot of money.
I didn't spend as much.
When I have money, I spend it.
When I don't, I don't spend it.
That's what they're doing.
They're spending.
So, the idea the economy is bad is essential to the idea that we need a fix, that something has to change.
It's essential to the idea of socialism.
The economy has to be bad.
All the time.
You have to be being cheated.
The fact that another guy is rich is bad for you somehow.
I've never understood that at all.
I mean, it's just envy, right?
What do I care?
I do not care how much money another guy has.
Elon Musk can have all the money in the world as long as I've got enough.
Original Sin Made Flesh Inside You00:15:13
I mean, I'm just not that hungry.
If I were that hungry for money, I'd have dedicated my life to it.
Probably would have been a smarter thing to do instead of all this truth and beauty stuff.
But still, I just wasn't that hungry for it.
And so I don't have as much.
And that's absolutely fine as long as I have enough to make my wife happy, to drape my wife in.
Furs and diamonds, as I do.
So, you know, this stuff, so much of this is generated by the idea, the imaginary that's being promulgated by the press.
And that imaginary ultimately leads to violence, as I've been saying all through the show.
That's different.
That's the difference.
It's not the rhetoric.
It's not that this guy's good and this guy's bad.
It's not that they have bad politicians and we have all good politicians.
It's none of that.
It's like not that we never make mistakes.
It's not that we never say anything wrong.
It's the idea.
And that idea is the first idea human beings ever had.
Maybe we could be like gods, knowing right and wrong.
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It is K L A V A N. Final chapter, Outside In.
So, we've been talking about the fact that people act according to the ideas in their head, their imagination of the world.
And there's one last part of this imagination I want to put forward because I've never heard anybody else say this, but it's obviously the case.
This week, we're going to be interviewing my friend Stephen Meyer, great guy.
He's at the Discovery Institute, where they argue that science has restored the idea of God instead of, you know, What people think that science has disproved God.
He's got a new movie out called The Theory of Everything, which I've started watching and is really good.
I mean, it is really good and really puts forward the fact that science is more insistently pointing toward a creator.
There was an image of a cell online this week.
I don't know if you saw it, which is just this incredible factory out of the Wizard of Oz.
It's just this amazing thing.
And it's like, yeah, now I don't think a wind blew through the microorganisms and assembled that.
I'm not sure that that's the way that happens.
But But the idea that science has disproved God always gets the headlines.
It always gets the headlines because remember, nobody wants God messing in their life because they want to do what they want to do.
That's just true.
That's true of everybody.
It's why people hate the Jews.
It's why they hate God.
It's why they hate the Bible.
Nobody wants God messing with their life and telling them that they have to be nice to people they don't want to be nice to and give money to people they don't want to give money to.
Nobody, you know, like, please, God, leave us alone.
That's the way almost everybody feels in his heart of hearts.
That's what original sin has done to us, right?
And so there are clips in the film.
Of, you know, guys like Carl Sagan, who used to be the guy who is now Neil deGrasse Tyson, who used to be Carl Sagan.
He was better at it, but he was still on the same page.
And, you know, other atheist scientists.
Here's just a clip of a couple of them, cut eight.
Have you thought about what happens when your life ends?
Have I thought about what happens?
Yeah.
Of course, I die.
Yeah.
What do you think happens?
I think I get buried or cremated.
I think there's nothing after that.
You have a brain which decays, there's just nothing.
Here we are.
Like mites on a plum.
And the plum is this little planet, and it goes around an insignificant local star.
And that star is on the obscure outskirts of an ordinary galaxy which contains 400 billion other stars.
And this galaxy is just one of something like 100 billion other galaxies.
So the idea that we are central, that we are the reason.
There is a universe is pathetic.
Now just compare that, okay?
This guy, Carl Sagan, was a hot character.
He had that show Cosmos and he was the big scientist.
But compare that, what he said, to what the astronauts said on Artemis II when they were looking back at the Earth and they said, it's surrounded by nothing.
It's surrounded by, it must be special.
It's just what they, it's the imaginary, right?
It is the imaginary world inside these people's minds.
Which one of those imaginations?
Is correct.
Now, Carl Sagan said the correct thing to imagine if you see this little world with little mites crawling on it who happen to be us is that it's pathetic to think you're special.
But, you know, the Artemis astronaut said, you know what?
You know, suddenly this whole Jesus and God thing sounds a lot better now.
It actually sounds kind of plausible because there must be something important about this life that has been assembled out of matter somehow to know itself.
It's somehow matter assembled into a mind that can know itself.
The cosmos.
That is an amazing, amazing fact, and I do not think it is covered by accident.
So, because of that attitude, because that attitude that Carl Sagan has expressed took place, became more and more prevalent after about the 16th century.
It's been happening for hundreds of years.
This is not an overnight thing.
And as I say, history gets forgotten very quickly.
I mean, it gets forgotten even as it's happening.
We went through something that's sometimes called the great internalization.
If there is no God, why do we experience Him?
Why do we experience conscience?
Why do we experience wonder?
Why do we experience This kind of oceanic sense that, oh my God, you know, you come home and you tell your spouse, oh, I had this moment when God became clear and I saw that everything was perfect.
Everything was fine.
Why does that happen to us?
Well, they internalized it all.
They made everything come out of it.
Like Freud would say, well, God is just projecting your father onto the heavens, right?
So instead of the more sensible saying, you know, we know how our fathers should behave, we know when our fathers are being good fathers because we know what God is like.
That would be the more sensible thing.
But he said, no, God just resembles our fathers because he is our father's.
Just made into this Noba Daddy, as James Joyce called him, just made into this kind of shadow father in the sky.
Or we have evolutionary psychologists who say, well, we evolved to feel certain things are bad and good because that kept us alive, instead of the far more likely idea that we evolve an eye because there's something we could see that looks like light to us, or we evolve a hearing because there's something that we can perceive that sounds like sound to us, and we evolved a moral sense because there's something.
That we can perceive as morality.
That makes a lot more sense evolutionarily, but no, once you believe there's no God, everything has to become interior.
And you'll hear brain scientists say, What happens when the brain has a religious experience?
Well, you know, this sparks and that's chemical and blah, and therefore it's an illusion.
But the same thing happens when I see a light bulb.
You know, things go off in my mind that help me to see this, that create the impression that comes into my mind of the light bulb, but nobody says the light bulb isn't there.
You know, so it's all only spiritual stuff is all.
Internalize it all, it emanates from us instead of emanating to us from our creator, right?
So, I began by saying that people and societies act according to the ideas in their heads.
So, ask yourself what happens to a society that thinks all the important things in life, the spiritual things, the values, the morality, the beauty, the intent, the cosmic intent of the universe and your life, that thinks that all comes from within?
What is that society going to look like?
Well, here is former Senator Ben Sass, who is sadly dying very young of pancreatic cancer.
He is a man who is full of faith, faith in Christ.
It is a beautiful thing to see.
It's a very, very moving thing.
And here he is talking about what he sees in this world that he is now leaving this cut nine.
All across the industrialized rich world, people have just stopped having babies in the last couple of decades.
We're at replacement rate birth rates nowhere in the industrialized world except Mormons and Jewish populations in Israel and in some parts of the U.S., except for those two categories.
Every other industrialized nation has stopped having babies.
That is super weird.
We've stopped having sex.
Sex has collapsed demographically.
Premarital, extramarital, marital.
It is very weird.
I don't have a phone on me, but that we carry around these super devices in our pockets that have distracted us from some of the most fundamental human activities and aspirations.
So here we are, the healthiest, wealthiest society, freest society that has ever existed on the planet.
And because we have been told that everything is Important spirituality.
Love is just a chemical thing that comes out of us, not to us from above, because we now live inside ourselves, inside our phones, inside our computers, inside this make believe world.
And all of this reality that is generated online the leftism, the unhappiness with the best world that's ever existed, the hatred of Jews because they're God's people, the hatred of our neighbors because they disagree with us on something, the hatred of women.
The hatred of men, the end of babies.
It's essentially the murder of this creation.
It is murdering creation.
We were given creation.
We were entrusted with creation.
We were given specific instruction to continue the work of creation, to be fruitful and to multiply, to carry on the job that God began.
This is original sin made flesh.
This interior world, the interiority of our world, the fact that two people, I see this all the time, two lovers, two spouses sitting at a table.
And looking at their phones instead of at each other.
I'm sure we all see it.
We all see it.
We see people sitting in the grass looking at their phones.
They say, Touch grass.
I'm touching grass, but I'm looking at my mind is in my phone because we've been told that's where all the important stuff is.
It's inside you, it's not outside you.
It's original sin made flesh.
The urge to be like God, knowing good and evil, so everything comes out of you.
Everything comes out of you because there is no God to get in your way.
Instead of taking an honest picture of our broken selves and facing the shame. of being broken.
You hear it again and again, right?
Don't fat shame.
Don't slut shame.
Don't shame people for doing shameful things.
You hear it again and again.
What they're trying to escape is the shame.
You know, don't make people ashamed of what they're doing.
Don't make people ashamed of having an abortion.
No, no, no.
Don't do that because then they might ask for forgiveness and repent and become better than they are and receive that forgiveness and become far better than they are.
This interior world without reference to reality, this imagination that doesn't even check to see if it's in touch with reality, it's the road to hell.
It was always the road to hell.
It was Satan's road to hell when God threw him out of heaven.
And the road elsewhere begins just where Sass has been telling people it does with the person next to you, with your spouse, with your children, with your neighbor, with your parents, with the people you actually can love, because you can't love people.
You can only love the people around you.
If we are going to defeat these violent people who are only going to turn our world into hell as they tell us they're going to turn it into utopia, we have to begin with the love of the people around us.
We have to begin with our community.
We have to begin with our town, our city.
Our neighborhood, our state.
We have to stop, turn our eyes away from the characters in Washington, D.C., who are only characters in a play we're watching on our shows, and make sure that our neighborhood is a place where people get together, pray together, live together, and love one another.
You know, I hate to say it, but that simple idea that we can love your neighbor, remember, it doesn't say love the world.
The Bible doesn't say love the world.
It says love your neighbor as if he were yourself, that that is the beginning.
Of fighting back.
And that's why I think the way you live, the way you live is your best weapon against this violent, violent tide of leftism.
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No shit.
Yeah, big surprise, big surprise.
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This is from Anonymous, says Dear Wise and Ancient Claven.
I'm certainly one of those.
Agape Love for Those Who Need Us00:04:42
My wife and I followed your advice and are, God willing, expecting our first child in a few months.
We hope to raise our children to be moral and virtuous people.
I look at your family, and at least to me, it seems that you have raised your children to be good and virtuous people.
They are indeed good and virtuous people.
It is true.
Due to this, we look to you, O wise Clavin, for advice on how to inculcate virtue in our children in this increasingly secular and morally relativistic world.
Thanks so much for your help.
You know, I can only tell you what I know is the best thing you can do.
The first thing you do is take care of your marriage.
Take care of your marriage.
Make sure you have time to make love to one another.
Make sure you have time to talk to one another and to walk together and not always having the children around.
I mean, I know you want to take care of the children.
The children should have you first in their lives, but make sure you have someone, a friend, a babysitter, someone you trust who can sometimes take the kids so that you can be together.
And not like, you know, oh, we must be romantic in this moment.
You don't have to be romantic to make love.
Just make love, and that'll bring the romance itself.
But make your spouse happy.
And this goes for both of you.
It's not a matter of just keeping your wife happy or keeping your husband happy.
You should both.
Enjoy one another and love one another.
That is the planet your children live on.
And connected to this, and not really that different from this, is if you want your kids to be virtuous, you have to love virtue.
It's not enough to be virtuous.
You have to love virtue.
If you are virtuous, but you're a crank about it, if you're crummy about it, you know, the other day, a woman who was handicapped sat down next to me on the train and she kept asking me to do things for her, and I kept doing them for her.
And I kept thinking, yes, I know I have to do the things for you, but I'm not going to like it.
I just couldn't help it because I was trying to work and I was so annoyed.
But I think in real life and in most of life, when you do the right thing, do it with joy.
Don't be faithful to one another as if it's an effort.
Be faithful because you love fidelity.
You're not faithful to your wife just because you love her.
You should be faithful to your wife also because you love fidelity.
And that goes for wives as well and their husbands.
If you are joyful in virtue and if your marriage is happy, they will want to be like you and you will have given them a weapon against the world, which is everything you say it is.
This is another anonymous one.
I don't know why people are doing that, but there it is.
I've been a listener since your first episode, haven't missed one since.
You have been a big help to me.
A year and a half ago, my fiance left me halfway through our engagement before asking her to marry me.
I promised God that I would love her forever.
After she rejected me, I found that I was still bound by that promise.
I can't bring myself to break it.
But when I consider spending the rest of my life giving my love to the fading memory of a girl, I feel desperately empty.
What would you do if you were me?
Well, I can tell you exactly what I would do.
I would go before God and I would say, God, I promise to love this woman, and therefore I will always be her friend in any situation.
I will not harbor bitterness against her.
I will love her even though she broke my heart.
I will love her even though she left me, and I will be there for her when she, if she ever calls and needs me.
However, However, you obviously did not intend her to be my romantic love, to be the love of my life.
And so I'm going to assume that what you meant is the kind of agape love that we give to those people around us who might need us.
And this is something that is very possible to do.
And then you should pray to God that he sends you a woman who is going to be the partner and erotic and romantic partner of your life and someone you can love in that respect.
Because what you're doing now is you're pawning your neurosis off on God.
You're not getting over this woman and you're blaming God for it.
That's what you're doing.
And it's hard to get over somebody when they dump you.
You always want to sort of make it right.
And, you know, it's like a trauma.
You keep doing it to yourself over and over again.
But it's what you got to do.
Let her go.
Let her go as a romantic partner.
She's not that God.
If God had intended her to be that, she would be that.
If God had meant her to be your wife, she would be your wife.
But he obviously didn't.
So he knows what he took your promise to mean, the only thing it could possibly mean.
You have to do the same thing and get over her.
It is not God's neurosis.
It's yours that you're putting on God.
Let her go.
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Producing Content for Social Media Docs00:10:44
And today we're going to talk to someone who is providing some of that great stuff.
And, you know, I think we're going to open this up to everybody.
I know you guys are members and you want to be privileged and you want to keep people out, but I think we'll open this up to everybody so everybody can see some of the new.
I mean, we got so much material coming in, so much content coming in.
And Reagan Conrad is one of our more talented content creators.
She really helped to create the Brett Cooper show and turned it into the powerhouse it was.
And now she is doing her own work, which is great, including, as I believe I'm seeing, constructing a child while we're talking.
Like, you know, the rest of us are just sitting here.
She is actually sitting here and making a human being at the same time.
Reagan, it's good to see you again.
Good to see you too.
I'm happy to be here.
You are an investigative reporter, which I did not know until a couple of days ago.
How long have you been doing that?
So, I've been reporting.
I studied broadcast journalism.
So, you know, even before Daily Wire, that was what I was into and what my kind of career trajectory was in.
And so, it's been fun to actually get to bring that back in this capacity and actually do a show about that because that's kind of what I've been doing all along, where my passion was.
And yeah, so it's been probably five or six years, I guess, of having that instinct and that education on that front.
That's great.
And I mean, this is to me the two big things we need on our side of the fence are reporting and entertainment.
And reporting can also be interesting.
In fact, you're making films.
Is that right?
I mean, this is not just you reporting stuff.
These are actually movies that you create.
Yeah.
So we're essentially, we're calling them like mini documentaries.
Some of them are video essays, mini docs, and then long form podcast conversations.
So kind of a blend of a lot of things.
Things, but the mini docs are probably the closest things to like these little movies.
But I think that sometimes the best way to tell a story and the best way to do service to good journalism is to kind of tell it in a story form like that.
That's what I find most interesting.
And I think that's the best way to kind of compel people to learn about a story that you think is important.
So that's why getting this opportunity to do mini docs, I think it's really effective because we want to reach people with these stories.
And you know, you gotta keep them entertained, but also inform them.
Yeah, that is great.
How long is a mini doc?
12 to 30 minutes.
It's quite the range.
That's very cool.
No, that's really cool because that's the way people can get information and not, you know, it doesn't take all day.
Now, I saw one that was about social media addiction.
Am I right about this?
Yeah.
So some of the content too is like me just having conversations talking about upcoming documentaries.
So a lot of this is going to live on, it all lives on a YouTube channel and it lives on Daily Wire as well, of course.
But we're having, you know, I'll talk about a topic.
I'll kind of talk about, hey, this is something we're seeing on social media.
We're seeing this in culture.
And then that's Wednesday episodes.
And then on Saturdays, we have, The mini docs where you'll see, like, let's actually dive into this.
So, one of our upcoming episodes is about social media addiction.
So, I talked about it on one of my Wednesdays of just like, hey, this is something I'm noticing that obviously we're all suffering with, which I think is pretty obvious.
But then on Saturdays, we're going to have like a big deep dive into going out, talking to doctors, talking to experts, and figuring out, okay, we see this as a problem.
What do we do about it?
That's, you know, it's really interesting because obviously I have to work on a computer all the time.
I have to go on all kinds of media, and social media is actually a good way of getting the news.
How can you tell the difference between addiction and just going to work?
That's the, I mean, that's kind of why I'm so passionate about this because the problem is it's also my job and finding out how do you find the balance.
And I think a lot of people, though, in different respects, even if they're not social media personalities, it's still their job to be on their email all day or, you know, scrolling news for other reasons.
And so we have to find that balance because, yeah, it is a problem.
And I haven't fully found that solution yet.
But if you find it, please let me know.
All right.
I'll be the first, you'll be the first I call.
So the other thing that you seem to be researching a lot.
Is health concerns, which is another thing that's really interesting to me because during the pandemic, we kind of discovered, and I'm like the opposite of a conspiracy guy, but we kind of discovered that it wasn't a conspiracy.
It was just a kind of incompetence and uncaring and a sort of authoritarian disregard for the health of the people at the very top of our health structure.
But now we've got RFK in there.
He seems like a little bit loony to me.
I mean, he seems like this seems to me like a Venn diagram of places where he's right and then other places where he's just out of his mind, you know?
Yeah.
So, how bad is it?
I mean, how much should we be suspicious of the top branches of the medical industry?
Yeah.
You know, unfortunately, the more that we dive into these things, there are absolutely problems.
Are they all intentionally evil and nefarious, which I think is more the conspiracy lane?
No.
But are they present and very much a problem that we need to expose?
Absolutely.
And so, I think kind of finding that balance.
And that's what we do a lot with the show.
Like, well, I'll deep dive something 100 years ago and be like, okay, how do we get to this point in the healthcare system or in certain care of different, even medical?
I was talking about endometriosis, which is a women's health disease that a lot of women face, and things that it's like, okay, is that nefarious or conspiratorial, or is it just simply a problem that we haven't yet fixed?
And I think a lot of those things end up just being problems that have not yet been solved or not being talked about enough or in the right way or whatever.
And so that's what I'm seeing more so.
And I try to take off my conspiratorial hat and put on like the proper, you know, as a journalist, What can we do?
What's the facts and what can we do about it?
Yeah.
I mean, because I don't know.
When I go to a doctor, I usually find the doctor pretty good.
I really find that people want to help you and they have this information.
They don't know anything about you.
But then at the same time, you pick up the newspaper and sometimes you think, these guys are crazy.
There's a lot of weird bureaucracy in place, too, that I think causes problems that even the doctors don't want to have to deal with, but they have to.
And I think there's a lot with insurance and stuff that people are finally figuring out and trying to make these problems actually have solutions, which I like.
And I don't want to be pessimistic toward the medical industry and things like that.
So that's why.
Finding these solutions makes me feel good too for myself.
I don't want to be pessimistic in that area, but also I want to be informed so that we can fix the things that are wrong.
You know, I have to ask you this question.
It's kind of a horrible thing.
I hate when people ask me this because the things you create are kind of like your kids and you don't really have favorites.
What's your favorite mini doc that you've made so far?
I would say I think our episode on Kratom that we did, it was the first one that we dropped.
That was one of our very much like our proper mini docs.
We were out in the field really like researching that product and it was a drug.
I don't know if you're familiar with it, but it was this big kind of epidemic and now as of Last week, Tennessee banned it.
So it's very in real time things were happening with this, but no one had been talking about it.
So I really liked that one because we really kind of were on the cutting edge of talking about this and having that conversation.
But man, I mean, the one this week, we're talking about a Discord cult.
It is very dark.
It has to do with Roblox and Minecraft and kids being exposed to things they shouldn't be.
And although it's a very heavy topic, I think it's very important.
So I'm also very eager to get that one out into the world too.
So I have never even heard of that.
Give me a little bit more on that.
I've never heard of that.
Yeah.
So it's an online cult that essentially grooms children on other.
Platforms like platforms where kids hang out at, yeah, and then they pull them over to uh websites like Discord, which they can have private chats, and it's a little bit more of like a lot of like anonymous activity can happen there.
And they target kids to essentially harm themselves on camera and a large assortment of horrible things.
It's it's it's hair, you know, absolutely terrible.
The FBI is now it's like on the terror watch list, but again, it's one of those things that a lot of parents just don't know even exists, and you want to live in this blissful ignorance.
But unfortunately, I think we have to wake people up to the reality of some of these dangers online.
And so that's what that episode's about.
That sounds really, really interesting.
I mean, I just, I'm terrified of this stuff because I have grandkids and, you know, we all love playing video games and you can play video games with your friends online.
You know, that's absolutely terrifying.
How did you even come upon that?
Again, I'm a huge deep diver.
I'll just spend way too much time on the internet and like some random rabbit hole, but I wanted to take that and use that for a new show, you know, and try to figure out, okay, I'm already doing this and I'm finding some of these horrible things.
I'm like, well, okay, we need to talk about that and we need to show people this.
And that was one of just like a late night rabbit hole that I was like, how is this not everywhere?
How does every parent not know about this?
And again, as a new parent or soon to be here any second now, but I wanted to make sure that this was a story that gets out there.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's really, it's so interesting.
I think most people, first of all, most people don't know how to do research at all.
You know, they don't even know how to like find out if somebody tells them something on the internet, they believe it and they don't know how to check it out, which is a genuine skill.
I mean, it's genuinely something you learn how to do.
But I'm interested, like, what is your process?
I mean, what do you do?
Like, you're trying to Produce enough of these to give us content.
How do you go about this?
Well, unfortunately, I do find that it's.
We do live in such a society that we're a headline culture, right?
Where you read the headline, oh, oh, I know enough about that.
I know the first line of the story, and then they go on and they go to the next story.
So even just spending a couple hours into something, you suddenly find so much more than what you would find by just a quick scroll.
And I think that's kind of the process of finding the topic.
I spend obviously many, many hours on these things and really kind of hone in what are the pieces that I think are most important for people to know.
But because we live in such a world that we don't spend any time on a topic, even several hours is kind of like mind blowing for people.
But I think that's important that we actually, when you want to care about something, you gotta give it the time of day, you gotta research it, you gotta fact check it also.
Because in this day and age, certain things that are said, you think you take it as truth and it's absolutely not.
Yeah.
And so I think there's kind of that blend.
But yeah, it's a lot of heavy research and that's kind of, you know, a journalist's favorite thing to do.
So I do enjoy that.
Reagan, I'm really glad Reagan Conrad, so people know how to find you, has exactly the kind of material.
We need, where should people look when they're looking for your newest thing?
Yeah, they can find me over on YouTube at Reagan Conrad.
All my socials are also Reagan Conrad.
So, any of the platforms that everybody enjoys, we're putting content out on all those platforms.
And then, of course, Daily Wire, and I do all access and all the stuff here at Daily Wire as well.
So, I'm kind of everywhere, but that's where we're going to put this content until make sure that everybody sees it and parents know about this stuff.
Excellent.
Excellent.
Well, look for Reagan Conrad's new mini docs and her discussions.
And now I must leave you and plunge you into the Clavenless Week, but be back if you live, if you survive that.
Which, in fact, is highly unlikely.
Be back next Friday with The Andrew Claven Show.
I'm Andrew Claven.
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