Andrew Klavan Show - The Hidden Ways That China Is Colonizing America w/Peter Schweizer
Aired: 2026-04-29
Duration: 33:00


=== Weaponized Immigration and Sovereignty (15:03) ===

[00:00:00]  One of the things the Mexican government has done, and I shared this, I met with President Trump, with Mark Arobio and Scott Besson.
[00:00:07]  They were shocked about this.
[00:00:08]  Mexico, right now, literally has federal government officials from Mexico whose job they live full time in the United States is to represent Mexicans in our country.
[00:00:20]  They're not only serving in the Mexican parliament while they're here, Andrew, they're engaging in political activities.
[00:00:44]  Hey, everyone, it's Andrew Clavin.
[00:00:45]  This week's interview is with one of my favorite people to interview because he writes such amazing books.
[00:00:51]  This is Peter Schweitzer.
[00:00:52]  I'm sure you know him.
[00:00:53]  The Invisible Coup is his latest book, How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon.
[00:01:02]  I have read this book cover to cover.
[00:01:03]  It is a very, very, it's a book that'll wake you up, let's put it that way.
[00:01:09]  Peter, it's good to see you again.
[00:01:10]  Thank you for coming on.
[00:01:11]  Oh, it was great to be with you, Andrew.
[00:01:13]  Thanks so much for having me.
[00:01:14]  So, most of us looked at the border during Joe Biden's presidency if we were watching Fox News because they weren't playing it anywhere else.
[00:01:24]  And we saw these armies of people coming across and it made us feel bad.
[00:01:29]  But it was basically just our laws being broken and people coming in that we didn't know and sort of the idea that by chance some bad guys might get in and that, you know, just viscerally made people uncomfortable.
[00:01:42]  But this book shows that that visceral feeling actually only scratches the surface of what was going on.
[00:01:47]  You are talking about Well, look, let's let you tell it.
[00:01:52]  You were talking about people using this system or instigating the system in order to use it, which is a great question, Andrew.
[00:02:00]  Yeah, I think that when we look at the issue of immigration or the border, it generally breaks down to issues relating to jobs and the economy and wages, violent crimes in our street or cultural influences.
[00:02:13]  Those are all important debates to have.
[00:02:15]  I'm not minimizing those.
[00:02:19]  Typical immigration where there's too much and it's illegal.
[00:02:22]  It's actually weaponized immigration.
[00:02:25]  Who's weaponized it?
[00:02:26]  Well, foreign actors have weaponized it.
[00:02:29]  Some of those are foreign state actors like China or Mexico.
[00:02:34]  Some of those are foreign organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood.
[00:02:38]  And what I mean about weaponized immigration is they are literally deploying people in a way as weapons.
[00:02:45]  Some of them are criminals, some of them are political activists.
[00:02:49]  But the goal is for these individuals to fundamentally change.
[00:02:53]  American society and to achieve the strategic objective of the people who's encouraging them or sending them to go.
[00:03:02]  So, if you look at, for example, Mexico, people think of Mexico kind of sleepy neighbor, you know, corrupt government, incompetent government.
[00:03:11]  When you look at the conversation among the leadership in Mexico, meaning the president, senators, and others, they have a totally different view of immigration than we do.
[00:03:20]  I mean, I quote them extensively in the book.
[00:03:22]  They, for example, Andrew, see this as an opportunity to extend.
[00:03:26]  Mexican sovereignty into the United States.
[00:03:29]  And they're actually doing that.
[00:03:31]  They're actually setting up political networks and infrastructure in the American Southwest to achieve that purpose.
[00:03:38]  So that's an example of what I mean about weaponized immigration.
[00:03:41]  It's actually organized, and they're trying to achieve strategic objectives that are to our detriment by encouraging and pushing this migration.
[00:03:50]  So when you say that, you're saying basically they want to take parts of America back, the parts that they feel were stolen from them.
[00:03:59]  How on earth can they do that?
[00:04:00]  I mean, is that a realistic thing?
[00:04:03]  I mean, you call the book The Invisible Coup, and it's one of those things that makes you sit up, but is that an actual realistic goal?
[00:04:10]  Yeah, I mean, I think it is.
[00:04:11]  You know, a part of it is just the way that they say it and how they consistently do.
[00:04:17]  If you just indulge me, let me just give you a couple of quotes, and I could literally read a dozen or more of these.
[00:04:23]  This one is from a senior Mexican senator, Felix Salgado, just a couple of years ago.
[00:04:28]  He's on the National Defense Committee, the most powerful committee in the Mexican Senate.
[00:04:32]  Member of the Morena Party, or that's the ruling party of Mexico.
[00:04:36]  This is what he says about mass migration Mexicans are in our territory California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Wyoming.
[00:04:49]  We're going to take back the territory that was stolen from us.
[00:04:52]  Now, that sounds ridiculous.
[00:04:54]  I mean, this guy sounds like a nut job.
[00:04:56]  But then, in December of 2024, Gabriela Rodriguez, she's a top aide to President Scheinbaum, she wrote in an official Mexican government report, quote, We already know that the Mexican population in the United States reaches 39.9 million.
[00:05:10]  We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory.
[00:05:13]  So, what does that actually mean?
[00:05:15]  Well, one of the things the Mexican government has done, and I shared this, I met with President Trump, with Marco Rubio and Scott Besant in the Oval Office the week before the book came in at their request.
[00:05:27]  They were shocked about this.
[00:05:29]  The leadership in the Senate and the House that I met with were shocked about this.
[00:05:36]  Has federal government officials from Mexico whose job they live full time in the United States is to represent Mexicans in our country before the Mexican government.
[00:05:48]  They serve in the Mexican parliament, they serve in the Mexican Senate, which is a massive intrusion in our sovereignty.
[00:05:55]  And they're not only serving in the Mexican parliament while they're here, Andrew, they're engaging in political activities.
[00:06:05]  One of the guys, Alejandro Robles, he's a member of.
[00:06:08]  The Mexican Congress or Chamber of Deputies lives in Ontario, California, outside of Los Angeles.
[00:06:15]  He describes how in 2025, his job was to go across the United States to, in his words, quote, organize the militancy against Donald Trump.
[00:06:26]  So again, you have a foreign political official who is in the United States organizing, by his account, anti ICE protests, anti Trump protests.
[00:06:38]  So you have that network.
[00:06:39]  You have the additional network of The Mexican consulates that are in the United States.
[00:06:44]  Now, Great Britain has six consulates, China has seven, Mexico has 53.
[00:06:51]  And what are those consulates doing?
[00:06:53]  Well, yeah, they're stamping visas and doing that stuff.
[00:06:57]  They're also getting involved in American domestic politics.
[00:07:01]  And one of the things we found was that in May of 2024, presidential election year in the United States, at the Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Consulate of Mexico, Consular officials from Los Angeles to Orlando all gathered there and they met Andrew with Democratic Party political activists.
[00:07:20]  And the transcript of the meeting was We've turned California from red to blue.
[00:07:27]  We've turned Arizona from red to blue.
[00:07:28]  How are we going to turn other states from red to blue to defeat Donald Trump?
[00:07:33]  This is ostensibly Mexican diplomats having this political conversation in the United States.
[00:07:39]  So, this is what I mean about weaponized immigration.
[00:07:42]  Mass migration gives them, in their mind, political power.
[00:07:45]  It gives them influence.
[00:07:46]  It gives them people to organize.
[00:07:48]  And that's actually what they're doing inside the United States.
[00:07:51]  So, are they looking at a situation where Biden virtually opened the border?
[00:07:56]  I mean, not virtually, he opened the border.
[00:08:00]  So, are they looking at and thinking, here's our chance?
[00:08:03]  Or are there people inside our country, Americans inside our country, thinking, we want these people to come in and establish some kind of sovereignty in America?
[00:08:13]  I think it's both.
[00:08:14]  I think it's both.
[00:08:15]  It's interesting.
[00:08:16]  When Biden won in November of 2020, about three or four days after that election, the president of Mexico, at that time it was Lopez Obedor, AMLO, convened a special section of the Mexican parliament.
[00:08:31]  And they passed three bills as it related to immigration.
[00:08:35]  And each one of those bills, AMLO talked about the fact that it was going to flood people and lead people to head north.
[00:08:42]  So from the moment they knew that Joe Biden was going to be president, they said, This is our chance, let's flood the border.
[00:08:49]  If you look at the United States equation, particularly the progressive movements, and I quote them extensively in the book, progressives say that part of the reason they want mass migration is that this is a transformative opportunity to change American political culture, which they view as too individualistic, too free market oriented, not collective enough minded, and in their words, too selfish.
[00:09:16]  So it's a cultural transformation, and they They say that mass migration is the way to accomplish that.
[00:09:23]  They can't, in effect, win the argument and convince enough people that live here or came here illegally.
[00:09:28]  So we need to import part of the political movement.
[00:09:32]  And that's why you've seen people like Bernie Sanders, who used to be in favor of closed borders, wanting open borders because they see the political benefit from it.
[00:09:41]  And do they themselves think that there's a chance of the U.S. government losing sovereignty over U.S. land?
[00:09:48]  Do they care?
[00:09:50]  Know the answer to that, although it's interesting, you know, they have before the Democratic meeting in 2024 when the DNC met, I think it was in Minnesota, they actually had one of these land acknowledgement declarations before the DNC met where it was, you know, we acknowledge we are on stolen land.
[00:10:11]  And this is part of the mindset.
[00:10:14]  The mindset is that it really does not belong to the United States, it belongs to indigenous people.
[00:10:21]  The problem being, of course, that when you're talking about Mexico, you're talking about a Spanish country where the conquistadors basically conquered the indigenous tribes.
[00:10:32]  So they ignore that part.
[00:10:34]  But there's no question when AOC talks about the reason she's opposed to ICE activities, part of her argument is we cannot remove people from their own land.
[00:10:45]  And so if you're illegally in the United States and you're from Mexico, you are in effect on your own land.
[00:10:50]  And that is, I think, part of the corrosive effect of this thinking.
[00:10:54]  So let's move from Mexico to China here.
[00:10:58]  What are they doing, and are we doing anything to try and stop them?
[00:11:02]  What is going on from China?
[00:11:05]  Great question.
[00:11:07]  The thing that immediately sticks out when you look at all these actors is they have different methodologies.
[00:11:13]  And Mexico's is very sort of opportunistic we're just going to flood the border.
[00:11:19]  China's is extremely sophisticated.
[00:11:24]  Frankly, genius in a really evil way.
[00:11:27]  And it comes down to exploiting birthright citizenship, which is this notion that the 14th Amendment, you know, if you happen to be in the United States by hook or by crook and you give birth to a child, the child is immediately granted U.S. citizenship.
[00:11:42]  What China has done is exploited birthright citizenship on an industrial scale via what is called birth tourism.
[00:11:51]  And birth tourism is an industry where you pay a company $50,000 to $60,000 in China.
[00:11:57]  They will get your pregnant wife or girlfriend to the United States.
[00:12:01]  They will give birth here.
[00:12:02]  They will then go back to China almost immediately, but the child now has U.S. citizenship.
[00:12:07]  And this is a policy, weirdly, that is endorsed by the Chinese government.
[00:12:14]  The Chinese government actually ran an article in 2013 that really kicked all of this off in the People's Daily.
[00:12:20]  And the article, it's kind of bizarre when you think about it, Andrew.
[00:12:23]  The Chinese Communist Party instructing party elites on their quote unquote constitutional rights in the United States.
[00:12:31]  According to their interpretation, the 14th Amendment means your child can get U.S. citizenship in the United States.
[00:12:38]  And they allow these birth tourism companies to openly advertise in China.
[00:12:43]  So this is endorsed by the Chinese government.
[00:12:47]  That's the first thing you need to know.
[00:12:48]  The second thing is the massive scale and size of what we are dealing with here.
[00:12:55]  In China right now, there are more than 1,000 Chinese birth tourism companies that openly advertise their services in China.
[00:13:04]  And these are overwhelmingly to arrange for birth tourism to the United States, meaning the United States or U.S. territories like Saipan or Guam, where the same rule applies.
[00:13:15]  Your child is born there.
[00:13:17]  You are granted citizenship.
[00:13:18]  So it's a massive industry.
[00:13:20]  That's the first thing to know.
[00:13:21]  Second thing is, our federal government has absolutely no idea how big this problem is because when a birth certificate is issued in the United States, we don't know the nationality of the parents.
[00:13:32]  So you ask the federal government how many people are doing it every year, nobody has a clue.
[00:13:38]  Out of China, there have been a series of estimates.
[00:13:41]  The Chinese government believes that every year since 2013, roughly 50,000 Chinese babies have been born in the United States.
[00:13:49]  Per year.
[00:13:50]  Per year.
[00:13:51]  Correct.
[00:13:52]  There is a professor, Barbonis, from Australia.
[00:13:55]  He's very friendly with the Chinese.
[00:13:57]  He travels, researches there all the time, is quoted there, gives speeches.
[00:14:02]  He thinks it's twice that.
[00:14:03]  He thinks it's 100,000 a year every year since 2013.
[00:14:08]  And then there are Chinese research firms, again, I quote them in the book, who say that in any given year it can spike much higher.
[00:14:16]  They estimate that in one year it was 185,000.
[00:14:20]  So, It's massive.
[00:14:22]  It's been going on since 2013.
[00:14:25]  And if you do the math, if those estimates are accurate, you're looking at anywhere from 800,000 to 1.5 million, right now, quote unquote, U.S. citizens that are being raised in China.
[00:14:39]  And when they turn 18, they're going to be able to vote in American elections.
[00:14:43]  They're going to be able to apply for government jobs.
[00:14:45]  So this is a massive exploitation of birthright citizenship that I think is going to have huge implications beginning in 2030.
[00:14:53]  When these Chinese, quote unquote, U.S. citizens who've never actually lived here are actually going to be able to start to vote.

=== The Invisible Coup Explained (13:10) ===

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[00:16:44]  You know, I was listening.
[00:16:45]  I only got to listen to a bit of the argument about birthright citizenship.
[00:16:50]  I was surprised how good the administration's argument was, actually.
[00:16:53]  I was taken aback by how clear it was.
[00:16:56]  Did they bring this up to the Supreme Court?
[00:16:59]  They did.
[00:17:00]  So, as I mentioned, the week before the book came out, I had shared advanced copies of the book with some friends.
[00:17:06]  One of those ended up with Susie Walls, the chief of staff.
[00:17:09]  She said, Will you come in and brief the president and a few other people, which I did.
[00:17:14]  One of the people that was in that Oval Office meeting, it was about 55 minutes long, was the White House counsel.
[00:17:20]  And when I mentioned the size of the Chinese birth tourism industry and the 1 million plus estimated U.S. citizens being raised in China, the president immediately said, make sure the Solicitor General knows about this.
[00:17:35]  And in fact, in the arguments, he did bring this up.
[00:17:38]  He had an exchange with John Roberts and specifically cited those facts.
[00:17:44]  So I was very, very encouraged about that being brought up.
[00:17:48]  One part of this, Andrew, that was not mentioned in the Supreme Court that we have no idea the scale of is this additional problem of surrogacy.
[00:17:59]  And this is when Chinese elites are hiring American women to carry a child for them.
[00:18:07]  The elite is just donating the sperm, or maybe it's sperm or eggs from the wife.
[00:18:12]  It's being carried by an American woman.
[00:18:14]  They're being paid $50,000 to $60,000 to do this.
[00:18:17]  Again, when the child is born, it will be a U.S. citizen.
[00:18:20]  It's born here.
[00:18:21]  It has the added benefit of now having an American as the birth mother.
[00:18:28]  We have no idea of the scale of this.
[00:18:31]  However, we found just looking in Southern California, we found 107 Chinese owned surrogacy companies just in Southern California offering these services.
[00:18:44]  And we have a couple of kind of bizarre, troubling anecdotes in terms of scale.
[00:18:51]  The Wall Street Journal ran a piece about.
[00:18:53]  10, 12 weeks ago on the front page, about a Chinese billionaire who's close to the CCP, who, by his own account, Andrew, has 100 children born by surrogate women in the United States that are being raised in China.
[00:19:10]  And there's another gentleman, I think you've actually covered this case, there's another gentleman in Southern California, a CCP official, who has 26 children born by surrogacy in a compound.
[00:19:22]  And he explained that his children are going to be U.S. citizens and his hope.
[00:19:26]  That one of them would be president of the United States one day.
[00:19:29]  Wow.
[00:19:29]  So we're talking to Peter Schweizer.
[00:19:32]  His book is The Invisible Coup How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon.
[00:19:38]  One of the things about your books, Peter, is they're incredibly well researched.
[00:19:41]  I mean, you're an actual investigative reporter.
[00:19:44]  Are you ever asked to go on mainstream television?
[00:19:48]  So it's interesting.
[00:19:49]  For this particular book, I did actually go on CBS News, which I think is probably a reflection of some of the changes that are being made there by Barry Weiss and others.
[00:20:01]  But other than that, no.
[00:20:03]  I did testify before the U.S. Senate.
[00:20:06]  And what was interesting there basically is that, you know, Dick Durbin didn't want to really hear anything about this.
[00:20:13]  So he was generally hostile.
[00:20:15]  So it's bizarre to me that even in an extreme case like this, you know, look, you and I could have a conversation.
[00:20:23]  Should a family that snuck across the border, that's lived here for 25 years, that has three children now who, you know, are teenagers, should they stay?
[00:20:33]  Should their kids be citizens?
[00:20:35]  You can have a debate about that.
[00:20:36]  I don't know how anybody can defend the proposition.
[00:20:40]  That you have a child, you go back to China, the child has no connection to the United States whatsoever, but they can be a U.S. citizen.
[00:20:46]  It's bizarre to me that they won't even object to that.
[00:20:48]  And also, I mean, when you're talking about Mexico, you do have one of those crazy indigenous theories.
[00:20:55]  You can understand at least what the left is thinking.
[00:20:57]  What are they thinking here?
[00:20:58]  I mean, what do you know?
[00:21:01]  Has this ever been brought before them in such a way that they had to react?
[00:21:06]  No, but it's a good question.
[00:21:07]  The Supreme Court hearings on birthright citizenship, as you mentioned, There was a point where I think it was Brett Kavanaugh was asking the, I believe it was a plaintiff's attorney from the ACLU, Mrs. Wang.
[00:21:20]  He asked her, he said, Well, can any restrictions be placed on birth tourism?
[00:21:25]  Or is it your view that anybody that gets here that basically steps a toe across the border gets you a citizenship?
[00:21:34]  Or can Congress reasonably put limitations on this?
[00:21:38]  And her position was no.
[00:21:40]  There can be no restrictions on this whatsoever.
[00:21:42]  And I do think that is the default position of the left because.
[00:21:46]  If you allow the fact that birth tourism is ridiculous, which it is, and it needs to be limited, you are acknowledging that this blanket ridiculous idea that if you happen to be here for even five seconds to give birth citizenship, it reveals it for what it is a ridiculous proposition.
[00:22:07]  So that's why I feel like they cannot even concede on this position.
[00:22:12]  Now, what about Muslims?
[00:22:14]  I mean, one of the things that's been obviously during this war in Iran, I keep expecting.
[00:22:19]  Some kind of trouble.
[00:22:20]  People have come across, built cells.
[00:22:22]  But so far, thank God, that hasn't happened.
[00:22:26]  But how coordinated is that?
[00:22:28]  Has been the approach of Islam in this situation, this open border situation?
[00:22:34]  Yeah, it's a huge problem.
[00:22:36]  What's interesting is that the Muslim Brotherhood, in particular, is latched onto the idea that they can achieve political success electing people in the United States with a pretty small portion of the population.
[00:22:50]  They calculate and You know, their broadcast that I cite in the book on this, if they have 10 or 12% of the local population, they can win elections.
[00:23:00]  They said that in 2021.
[00:23:02]  And the example, Andrew, that they gave was New York City.
[00:23:07]  And then, of course, along came Momdani, and their rationale makes a lot of sense.
[00:23:11]  They said, look, we have a group that is, you know, very homogeneous, you know, tends to vote together in a block.
[00:23:21]  And if we Can dominate a primary election because very few Americans vote in primaries.
[00:23:27]  If we can go into an area that is dominated by one political party, we can win a primary, as they did in New York City, then we can win the general election.
[00:23:38]  But the key element and component of this, and this is again why I view this as weaponized immigration, not immigration, is the key for the Muslim community is not to allow for assimilation by Muslims that come to the United States.
[00:23:52]  And if I could, let me just read.
[00:23:55]  Again, this is not me saying it.
[00:23:56]  A couple of quick quotes to this point as to how desperate they are to ensure that Muslims do not assimilate and become Americans.
[00:24:06]  Both of these are from senior officials with CARE, who you have covered, the Council on American Islamic Relations.
[00:24:12]  The first is in a 2025 speech by the Florida CARE director Have we asked ourselves this question, why are we living in the United States?
[00:24:22]  He's talking about Muslims.
[00:24:24]  The only answer I believe is excusable and is justifiable.
[00:24:28]  Is if we are living here to shift this country's political direction and spiritual direction together.
[00:24:36]  Or another quote from the same year from one of the board members of CARE.
[00:24:40]  He said, Ultimately, we Muslims can never be full citizens of this country because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions of this country.
[00:24:54]  We can only be citizens in the sense that we try to influence American policy.
[00:25:00]  So again, it's weaponized immigration.
[00:25:02]  It's not immigration.
[00:25:03]  They don't want assimilation.
[00:25:05]  They don't want the melting pot.
[00:25:07]  By the way, Mexico does the same thing.
[00:25:10]  Some of these officials that are in the United States, I talked about Alejandro Robles, the congressman that lives in California.
[00:25:18]  He has declared that Mexicans that come to the United States and embrace American values, learn the language, assimilate and adopt American values, are traitors.
[00:25:29]  He calls them traitors.
[00:25:30]  And he says that.
[00:25:31]  President Scheinbaum of Mexico, he's the same political party, agrees with him.
[00:25:35]  So that is part of weaponized immigration.
[00:25:38]  And again, now, there are two parties in this country.
[00:25:42]  The Muslims obviously bear no goodwill toward us.
[00:25:46]  I mean, not these Muslims at least bear no goodwill toward us.
[00:25:51]  Is there any move from the left to sort of say we've got to change our immigration policy?
[00:25:58]  I mean, Trump shut the border down.
[00:26:01]  Shockingly quickly, shockingly efficiently.
[00:26:05]  When the left takes power again, which I assume will eventually happen, is there anybody on the left who thinks we shouldn't reopen them, that let's take advantage of what Trump did?
[00:26:15]  Or do you think it's just going to open up again?
[00:26:18]  I think it's going to open up again.
[00:26:19]  And I think there is a very, very dangerous marriage of convenience that progressives have made with Islamists.
[00:26:27]  This is the so called Red Green Alliance.
[00:26:31]  And as I charted in my research, It really began in mass in 2007.
[00:26:37]  That was the year, if you could imagine, this, by the way, would make a great novel if you were to write a novel like this, Andy, with your skills.
[00:26:44]  In 2007, the daughter and the son of Che Guevara go from Cuba and they visit Tehran to meet with the mullahs.
[00:26:55]  If you can imagine what that reason is, and the discussion is about can we find common cause?
[00:27:02]  So you've got two atheistic Muslims and you've got the mullahs of Tehran.
[00:27:06]  By the accounts of the Iranian media, the meeting did not get off to a good start because the mullahs declared that Allah appreciated all that Che Guevara had done and that he was a man of God.
[00:27:21]  His daughter interrupted and said, Che never believed in God.
[00:27:24]  What are you talking about?
[00:27:25]  But they cast all that aside and they came to the conclusion that, you know what, we disagree on a lot, but we have one thing in common, and that is we seek the destruction of Western civilization and the heartbreaking.
[00:27:40]  The beating heart of Western civilization, which is the United States.
[00:27:44]  So, there's been this alliance formed where you see trans rights activists and Islamists marching together.
[00:27:53]  The dangerous game that the left is playing, and again, I quote them in my book, is the Islamists say boldly right now, this is a marriage of convenience.
[00:28:02]  When we achieve our goals, the first thing we're going to do is take these guys out.
[00:28:08]  But I don't think that, I think the progressives need that alliance, they need the energy of the Islamists.

=== Closing the Open Door (04:45) ===

[00:28:14]  They need the votes.
[00:28:15]  They need the support.
[00:28:16]  So I don't think they are going to change their opinions on this in any way, unfortunately, because it's the only strategy they believe going forward that's going to work.
[00:28:25]  One of the most frustrating things about watching our government deal with this is that they don't deal with it.
[00:28:29]  I mean, Trump shut the border down, but every time the Congress starts to think about it, you get this, well, we need a comprehensive bill.
[00:28:38]  I don't understand why they could just be built to shut the border down.
[00:28:42]  What would you like to see happen in Congress in the future?
[00:28:46]  What would satisfy you?
[00:28:48]  That this subject had been dealt with?
[00:28:51]  Well, it's a great question.
[00:28:52]  I mean, there are a lot of things that can be done.
[00:28:53]  One of the things that can be done immediately is Senator Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee has introduced a bill to ban birth tourism.
[00:29:03]  Say, you can't do this.
[00:29:05]  You can't, because at the heart of it, by the way, Andrew, these birth tourism companies are committing visa fraud because what they do is they instruct pregnant women on their visa application to say you're coming as a tourist.
[00:29:18]  Don't write down that you're coming to have.
[00:29:20]  A medical procedure because then you have to prove you can pay for it.
[00:29:24]  You have to prove you're in medical health.
[00:29:25]  So it's visa fraud.
[00:29:26]  So I would like to see her bill passed in this practice.
[00:29:30]  It's not just the Chinese, by the way.
[00:29:32]  Russian oligarchs are doing it, Middle Eastern, Turkish.
[00:29:36]  It is a massive industry across the United States.
[00:29:39]  It's just the Chinese do it, as I said, on a massive industrial scale, as you would expect.
[00:29:44]  So that would be number one.
[00:29:47]  I think number two, one of the points I make in the book is we have got to create a rock solid citizenship.
[00:29:55]  Path in the United States.
[00:29:56]  What I mean by that, every Democratic president since Bill Clinton that has come into office, one of the first things they have done is they have gutted the citizenship requirements because they want to ram through and mint as many new citizens as possible.
[00:30:12]  How do they do that?
[00:30:13]  First thing they do is they get rid of, believe it or not, criminal background checks.
[00:30:19]  So you're applying for U.S. citizenship, you're supposed to undergo a criminal background check under Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden.
[00:30:28]  They basically said, no, you don't need that.
[00:30:30]  They get rid of the language requirements.
[00:30:32]  They get rid of the sort of rigorous procedures that are in place that my parents had to go through, many other immigrants have had to go through.
[00:30:41]  And the problem is, you should not, as president, be able to manipulate that the way that Alejandro Mayorkas has done over the years.
[00:30:49]  So I'd like to see the citizenship process create a circumstance where if that is not done, the people that are failing to do it in government are committing a crime and will actually be punished.
[00:31:01]  Those are a couple of, I think, the most important things that we need to do.
[00:31:05]  And number three, my hope is that the Supreme Court involving the birthright citizenship case, my prediction, and I'm terrible at this and I'm not a lawyer, those are all the caveats, is that the court is going to come back and say, Donald Trump executive order overreaches.
[00:31:22]  You cannot do this by executive order.
[00:31:25]  However, I believe a majority of the justices will say, however, Congress can put some limitations.
[00:31:32]  On birthright citizenship.
[00:31:33]  It's not absolute.
[00:31:36]  And that would open the door for Congress.
[00:31:39]  Again, I share your frustrations with Congress.
[00:31:41]  It would at least open the door for Congress to be able to pass legislation and address this issue in a real important fundamental way.
[00:31:49]  I actually believe immigration is good, but it needs to be legal, and we need to vet people that are actually coming into the country.
[00:31:58]  That's my view.
[00:31:59]  So you cut it off at the base, Trump's done that at the border, you deal with birth tourism, and then you make sure that we are vetting the people that come in and people that really want to live the American dream and share our values.
[00:32:12]  Peter Schweizer, the book is The Invisible Coup How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon.
[00:32:18]  I read it, but then I don't usually sleep anyway.
[00:32:20]  You should read it because it'll wake you up for sure.
[00:32:23]  It is a really good book, Peter.
[00:32:24]  It's just a terrific job, and I hope it has the effect we need it to have.
[00:32:29]  It's great to see you.
[00:32:30]  Thank you for coming on.
[00:32:32]  Thank you.
[00:32:32]  It's always a treat to be with you, Andrew.
[00:32:33]  God bless, and I appreciate you having me on.
[00:32:35]  Back, Ashley.
[00:32:36]  I'll see you again.
[00:32:37]  One more time The Invisible Coup How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon by Peter Schweizer has been published.
[00:32:43]  tons of best-selling books, but this one really a special book given the threat of this border opening up again as it was under Biden.
[00:32:52]  Very exciting stuff.
[00:32:54]  More exciting stuff on The Andrew Clavin Show on Friday.
[00:32:57]  Come and be there.
[00:32:58]  I will be there and I'd love to see you.