Andrew Klavan satirizes Mayor Eric Adams' socialist plans and critiques the Southern Poverty Law Center for alleged fraud while exposing AI risks as a "mechanical sociopath." He argues that modern storytelling fails by ignoring moral reality, contrasting Marx's world-changing ambitions with Jesus's focus on self-transformation. Klavan asserts conservatives must reject fighting fire with fire, instead excelling in their specific duties to uphold truth, noting that rewriting God's laws only breeds evil and that true freedom comes from doing one's job well rather than adopting deceptive tactics. [Automatically generated summary]
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Mayor Mamdani's Socialist Pit Plan00:05:13
Grinning Hellspawn and New York City Mayor Zoram Mamdani has announced his new socialist plan to destroy first New York, then the country, then the world, by way of taking revenge on God for casting him out of heaven and hurling him into the bottomless pit of eternal flames, where he was immediately elected mayor of New York.
Mamdani's new socialist plan of destruction was celebrated by his supporters with a tasteful human sacrifice, followed by an orgiastic dance around the golden statue of a goat, while Mamdani's wife, Rama Duwaji, set a Jewish Effigy on fire and called on the dark forces of the underworld to trod the nation of Israel and its people into dust.
When Mr. Effigy complained to the mayor that he did not like being set on fire and frankly felt Ramaduaji was being kind of anti Semitic, Mr. Mamdani replied that his wife was a private person and therefore could not be condemned for the bubbling, blood drenched froth that issued from her mouth when she went into ecstasies at the thought of millions of Jews being crushed to dust.
Mayor and also Satan's glove puppet Mamdani's plan.
Begins with spending $30 million in taxpayer money to build a government grocery store in Harlem, where taxpayer subsidies will bring down the price of its food, allowing the store to drive local minority owned grocery stores out of business so that the owners will be impoverished, then homeless.
The price of the store, the food subsidies, and new homeless shelters will be raised by taxing billionaires who will immediately exit the city en masse, reducing New York's tax income to minus $4, so that the government grocery shelves will be empty and the impoverished people of Harlem will be.
Forced to eat first cats, then rats, then cockroaches, then one another, in what the mayor of New York and Prince of Lies warmly hailed as a traditional socialist meal.
Mamdani pledged the escaping billionaires would be hunted down by winged creatures of no recognizable description, after which a wall would be built around the city to keep them from trying to escape once again from the warm embrace of collectivism.
After that, the malignant spirit and mayor said he would continue to devise new methods to fund his plans to destroy the globe with new taxes on earwax.
daydreams, and friendly greetings, levied on any wealthy or upper middle class or middle class or starving former Harlem grocery owner who lives in New York or once lived in New York or once watched a movie that took place in New York or knew someone who had.
The exact value of the taxable items would be determined by a committee of bureaucrats selected for their ability to never have worked a day in their lives or otherwise created even a single dollar of wealth.
These bureaucrats would be paid millions for their service, the salaries to be raised by taxing the benign, invisible spirits who hover protectively over the cradles of newborn babes.
Many Republicans predicted that the socialist plan would destroy every hint of prosperity in the city, as anyone but a living tar pit of wickedness would know.
But mayor and living tar pit of wickedness Mamdani said he was unconcerned because New York Democrats outnumber Republicans by more than two to one, and some 66% of Democrats.
Look favorably on socialism, these being the same 66% of Democrats who look favorably on assassinating their political opponents, tearing the limbs off unborn babies, then selling their remaining body parts, and repeatedly harassing total strangers to make them atone for the sins of white people, which include colonialism, the grand old Opry Christmas special, and the manufacture of electrical plants,
which they invented to power the manufacture of all the medicines and devices they invented to make possible modern life, which they also invented.
The smiling king of demons and New York mayor said he would continue to unveil his socialist plans until God apologized for hurling him into hell and agreed that from now on he would be called God instead and would be allowed to dine on the souls of his constituents until they were damned forever or re elected him mayor of New York, whichever came last.
Trigger warning I'm Andrew Clavin, and this is The Andrew Clavin Show.
All right, we are back laughing our way through the fall of the Republic.
I'm glad Mamdani's just getting started, so I'll have a lot of material going forward.
I'm going to New York tomorrow for the Edgar Awards, which will be next week.
And on Tuesday, which is the day before the Edgar Awards, I will be on a panel at the W. Times Square Hotel, Broadway and 47th Street.
And it will be a panel called Murder by Death, where crime, art, and literature intersect.
I believe.
The other panelists are the nominees for the same award I'm up for, which is critical and biographical crime writing.
If you come by at 8 30, I think you have to register.
I don't know how much it costs, but you know what?
You can go on the Mystery Writers of America website and look it up if you're interested in hearing us talk about writing.
Also, leave a comment.
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You can write it on toilet paper just so it'll go where it deserves, or whatever you like.
And if that comment is as low as the remarks I'm making right now, we may use it on the show just to degrade ourselves and our audience.
Today's comment comes from conservative South African who says, listening to the Andrew Clavin show from Eric Swalwell's basement, slightly concerned about the woman frantically screaming in Chinese while tied to what seems to be a rusted stripper pole on the other side of the room, but other than that, loving the show.
Yeah, I would say that was degrading enough to make the grade.
So welcome to our show from South Africa.
You are now as low as we are, and we will get right to today's episode The Phantom Menace.
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I got to start with this story.
It's kind of a little story, but it's a stupid story, but it has kind of profound elements to it.
It was in the magazine Wired.
An influencer, a MAGA influencer named Emily Hart, who racked up millions of followers because she posed in a bikini.
She was very sexy, blonde, and she would be shown drinking beer and shooting guns and making patriotic remarks.
Turned out to be a complete creation of AI run by a man, a guy named Sam, a 22 year old orthopedic surgeon in training who decided to try and fund his schooling, his medical schooling, by creating this image.
He asked Google's Gemini AI for advice and decided to create a hot girl for MAGA conservative people because men, obviously, because the software told him that the conservative audience, especially older men in the U.S., Often has higher disposable income and is more loyal, Wired said.
And of course, that's true because we work, which is a little different than liberal men.
So she was supposed to be a registered nurse, just very beautiful.
I've seen her.
We'll put a picture up of her.
And she fires a rifle and says things like, if you want a reason to unfollow, let me tell you, Christ is king, abortion is murder, and all illegals must be deported.
So very red meat stuff.
And the guy said, I was basically doing nothing, and I was just flooded with money.
And some people said this proved that MAGA men were stupid, but we were talking about this on Friendly Fire, and I made this hilarious joke that nobody got, but it actually is kind of true that to the mind of the viewer, in the mind of the viewer, an AI naked girl is just as real as a real naked girl.
It's all porn to the guy who's looking at it, so they're equally unreal to him.
Now, obviously, I know what you're immediately going to say.
The morality is completely different if she's real, right?
If she's real, then a real girl is degrading herself, and you're paying her to do that and that makes it much more immoral than if you're just looking at an AI person.
But that meant in some ways that the MAGA guys were doing something noble, which was that they were degrading themselves without degrading anyone else, as opposed to people who were watching real people do porn.
So, this is profound because one of our key tasks in life is judging the invisible rightly.
This is what I often say is a function of the imagination, right?
You have to get no morals, values, the intentions of God, and these things, even though you have books of revelation and wisdom, there are always things you have to discern.
And in order to discern them, you have to look at the book of creation.
I mean, this is St. Augustine said there's this book of scripture and the book of creation, and we have to make sure that they are in sync, and that is a guide.
So, first you have to know the facts, and then you have to know what those facts relate to on the invisible level.
It's kind of like a Chinese menu with column A and column B. In column A, if you give a beggar bread, in column B, that's a good act of charity.
If you commit murder, in column A and column B, That's evil, right?
So that is the way our moral world works.
So you have to both know about the world, you have to see the world rightly, and you also have to see the invisible world rightly.
You can get it wrong, you can get it right.
And the left always says that the invisible world doesn't exist because they're materialists, they don't believe in God, and they say this is just a construct and we can rewrite it any way we want to.
If we want to say, you know, homosexuality is good and heterosexuality shouldn't be centralized, we can say that.
We can say whatever we want because, you know, as Nietzsche pointed out, if you kill God, then you have to become God.
Somebody has to write the rules and it will be the sort of Powerful man who does that, what Nietzsche called the superman, because there's no God.
And instead of doing all this puling, love your neighbor stuff, we'll just get right down to the will to power, the will to power, because everything is all about power.
That is basically what the left believes.
And so, as the reason this struck me is because we are now in this new media world and entering this new world of all kinds of other things like AI and space travel and possibly colonizing space, one hopes.
We're also, as I always say, we're in this information crisis where there's no one we can trust anymore to be the source of reality, to say, these are the facts.
I'm telling them to you, even though they're against the guy that I'm for, and I will tell them to you when they're for the guy.
I'm just going to be absolutely there's nobody who does that except maybe Brett Baer, the last reporter living.
And there's no outlet that does that.
I mean, if you go on Fox, you're getting opinions, and if you go on the New York Times, you're getting opinions dressed up as news.
And so it becomes really easy for anyone to create a false reality with the new tools that are developed through social media and AI and all these other things.
So if you want to make a socialist heaven look real to people, you can.
If you want to make the Russian collusion scandal look real, you can do that.
You know, Candace conspiracy of evil Jews, you know, you can make it to people who want to believe it, they can believe it and they can say, oh, well, she's not really anti-Semitic.
This is really something that I have to pay attention to.
You just have to know how to do it.
So, for us, for people who are trying to just live in the world and do right and understand the world, the same effort that great theologians used to put into discerning the will of God now has to be put into everyday life.
We don't know what is happening.
We wake up every morning, used to be able to read the newspaper.
When I started the show, this is like 10 and a half years ago, I used to read the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.
I got the left wing version from the New York Times, I got a right wing commentary from the Wall Street Journal, but I knew the facts.
Now that's no longer true.
I have to read and read and read before I say, I'm pretty sure this is true.
So, this brings me to this story about the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is doubly discerning.
Now, I'm going to be a little bit of a downer here because I think the right has leapt too quickly to interpret what is going on.
And of course, the leftist outlets are trying to cover up and make excuses for it when they would not be doing this if this were not a corrupt leftist group.
So, let me just tell you where I see this.
First of all, the charges are basically it's an 11 count indictment.
And it includes wire fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy to commit money laundering.
And here is the acting Attorney General Todd Blanch with Rob Schmidt on Newsmax telling him what the indictment basically says.
It's cut one.
You have a situation where you have an organization actively raising money for years and years and years, promising that their sole purpose was to root out racism, mostly in the South.
What you saw and what's publicly available is a lot of activism, a lot of articles, a lot of pushback towards anybody who's conservative.
But it turns out that they were spending.
In this case, over $3 million over about a 10 year period, actually paying individuals associated with the same right wing groups that they are claiming to try to dismantle.
I mean, that's the definition of a bait and switch or of a fraud.
And it's something that the grand jury, there's a lot of work went into that case.
And it's something that should be very concerning to everybody in this country.
So now the writers jumped on this and basically said that they were LARPing hate.
They were making, they were.
Pain for people to be hateful.
You remember the Southern Poverty Law Center is the group that names hate groups and they're totally leftist and corrupt.
So they will name, you know, Focus on Family as a hate group, TPUSA as a hate group, but not, you know, Black Lives Matter or the Antifa.
They won't name that as a hate group, even though Antifa was an incredibly violent, hateful organization.
I used to say in Antifa, the FA stands for fascist and anti stands for nothing because they were masked people beating people up and all this.
But so they're completely.
Everything they said was a lie.
It was just a way of attacking leftists.
And of course, the media, which is also corrupt, would quote them as if this was a very, very important organization doing very, very important work, which was all nonsense.
Now, that said, to say that they were creating the hatred they were supposed to be exposing is a little jumping the gun.
There's some proof of that.
For instance, one of the sources that they were paying was with the Unite the Right.
Rally, and he made racist postings under the supervision of the SPLC and helped coordinate transportation to the event for several attendees while they were paying him.
So that is at least the outcome, was what it was.
But whether that was the point of it, that's not what they're charged with.
They're charged with fraud, essentially, for saying we're doing one thing with your money because they're taking money from donors and they were actually doing another thing.
Now, this is a grand jury indictment, which is important, but you can indict a ham sandwich, and even a grand jury is occasionally indicted.
A ham sandwich.
They're not convicted of anything.
But on the other hand, if you listen to their explanations of what they were doing, I'm sorry, any objective observer would call them dodgy.
Here is the acting president, I think, of the SPLC, Brian Fair, cut to.
This use of informants was necessary because we are no stranger to threats of violence.
In 1983, our offices were firebombed.
And in the years since, there have been countless credible threats against our staff.
For decades, we engaged in unprecedented litigation to dismantle the Klan.
and other hate groups.
In light of that work, we sought to protect the safety of our staff and the public.
We frequently shared what we learned from informants with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI.
We do not, however, share our use of informants broadly with anyone to protect the identity and safety of the informants and their families.
And while we no longer work with paid informants, we continue to take their safety seriously.
So this doesn't play as far as I'm concerned.
I mean, we get death threats here all the time.
Some of the people here really have to have.
Security.
We pay for security.
We don't infiltrate organizations that might pay.
Yes.
And by the way, what kind of information are you gathering?
Their job is to expose and name hate groups.
So they send people in to the Ku Klux Klan.
What are they going to come back?
These guys are white supremacists.
Like, you're joking.
What gave them away?
Their white supremacy?
The fact that they believe in it?
They're sending people to the Nazi party, to the National Socialists.
My God, these people are Nazis.
So it just really doesn't hold together.
And again, It's frustrating to the right to watch these people be justified and glorified and given authority by a news media that is itself just a corrupt, hollow shell of what it used to be when we could more or less trust the New York Times to give me a liberal but true sense of the world.
That is not true.
I read the New York Times every morning so you don't have to, and it is just it's nonsense.
It's complete nonsense.
Not that they don't have reporting power.
They do have reporting power, but they use it for evil instead of good.
So if you watch the way this was covered, the New York Times basically said it was a nothing burger.
The USA Today say, well, the feds have informants.
I said, yeah, because they're the feds.
They are authorities for investigating crime.
What kind of craziness is that?
This is just a think tank, basically, infiltrating these things in a very strange way, a very suspect way.
It may be, by the way, I'm not denying that they may have in fact been trying to gin up hatred because, you know, it's just hilarious, the absolute hysteria that the left managed to get working during the Biden administration so that we were, you know, these people were burning down cities over the horrible, horrible racism.
But every time they investigate a racist incident, virtually every time it's a setup or a fraud or a hoax.
And, you know, it's just absurd.
That this is what we're still doing.
You could actually stop talking about racism.
Would it go away?
No, of course, there's always going to be racism.
And I don't believe that being a black person in a majority white country is the same thing as being a white person in a majority white person.
You know, I understand there are real things, but some things don't go away because they're human nature.
So it's just people raising money off a kind of hate that used to be predominant that no longer is.
We elected a black president twice.
That tells you something about it.
The reason they use it is because the same reason they want to silence people is because their arguments have failed.
They failed when the Soviet Union fell.
That's when the move towards censorship began.
But just look at the way ABC, Good Morning America, run by George Snuffleupagus, whatever the hell his name, is a guy who really, his only journalistic experience was silencing women for the Clintons, I'm sorry.
Starts talking about Kash Patel's public comments about his defamation suit against The Atlantic, which I'll get back to in a minute, for an anonymously sourced smear campaign.
And then they threw in 31 seconds over these charges.
There's cut three.
It was during a press conference that he made these comments, and it was a press conference to announce federal charges against a prominent civil rights organization.
One of the most prominent in the nation, the Justice Department accusing the Southern Poverty Law Center, Robin, of defamation.
Frauding donors by secretly paying informants inside the Ku Klux Klan and other extremist groups that it long investigated.
The Southern Poverty Law Center said, We are outraged by the false allegations and accused the Trump administration of targeting it for political reasons.
They're just incredibly prominent.
What does that mean?
It means the press, which is corrupt, lifts them up.
It doesn't mean that they have any legitimacy at all.
And I just love the fact that while he's describing the charges in back of him on the screen is the rebuttal from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Center, so they can't even have the charges there without there being rebuttal.
It's interesting to me that Patel was hit by this Atlantic story that accused him of being drunk on the job, a story which Dan Bongino immediately reacted to by calling it BS.
Megan Basham, our own wonderful Megan Basham, points out that the piece had no name sources and was written by Sarah Fitzpatrick, who's also the reporter who wrote the completely debunked hit piece that claimed Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh drugged women so they could be sexually abused.
So this is a hit.
Story writer, and he's suing them, and I hope he wins because I'm sure the story is untrue.
So, what we're fighting over is not the facts.
The facts are that they've been indicted, and that's, you know, we're fighting over the nature of the reality of this situation.
The Cholesterol Panic Problem00:14:13
And I think we could trust places like the New York Times if they said, well, yes, this was a left wing organization.
This was not a civil rights organization.
This is a left wing organization.
They did not name left wing organizations as hate groups.
They called Catholics, Orthodox Catholics, they said were potential terrorists.
So, they're obviously.
On one side and not the other.
And anybody who doesn't report it that way is lying.
It's just lying.
Now, again, I don't think we have enough to say that they're guilty.
I don't think we have enough to say that they were actually doing this to gin up the appearance of hatred.
That's a possibility.
It certainly is.
But I don't think we have the proof on that.
We're actually just arguing about the nature of the reality.
And there's nowhere you can go, except, of course, this show because I'm on a mission from God.
There's nowhere you can go to get an actual reality take.
You have to just go forward.
And if you let yourself be drawn along in what feels good, what confirms your prejudices, you're going to get.
Ultimately lost.
The reality, the power of people to shape this reality depends on clicks.
The clicks depend on creating the illusion that this is the only place you can get the truth, as I just did.
And that depends on debunking every story.
So eventually everything gets debunked.
And that's why you get things like Tucker Carlson now calling for Donald Trump to be removed because eventually these guys devour their own because they have to, you know, it's just like the left elevating gay people when they wanted to get gay marriage, but then.
Attacking gay people when they wanted to claim that there is no such thing as gender except in the mind.
And gay people kept saying, Yeah, but we're only attracted to people of the same gender.
And they had to be thrown aside.
The point that I'm trying to get to is in a world where reality is now up for grabs, it is absolutely true what Marshall McLuhan said back in the 50s or 60s.
He said, the medium is the message.
What he meant by that is the way you get information is more important than the information you're getting.
It is a sort of projection of your own mind out into the world, coming back to you with information that you didn't put there.
Different ways of receiving information have different effects.
On the society and on your mind.
If you read, which you should, you should be reading books all the time, truly.
If you read, that will teach you linear thinking.
It'll teach you to see how an argument actually works.
It will teach you to see how facts actually look and how they are supported and how they are used.
Whereas TV pulls you into a world of storytelling and emotion, and social media gins that up to basically just be pure emotion over facts and logic and any kind of reason.
At all.
Recently, I was talking months ago, I was talking about a speech that has now gotten a lot of press by Helen Andrews, who said that wokeness was a result of the feminization of professions, that once a business is filled with women, it won't do its job anymore.
It will attend to feeling states like women tend to do.
So it'll be more interested in feeling over rationality, safety over risk, cohesion over competition.
But Bill Vogley, who writes for Claremont Review of Books, recently wrote an article saying that this wokeness started before.
Too many businesses were taken over by women.
And he says feminization bolsters that kind of thinking, but it doesn't cause it.
And I think one cause is a medium that tells very brief stories packed with simplistic emotions.
You know, if you ever go on X, you just see it all the time stupid little stories built into these big dramas, images that are supposed to make you feel something but don't really supply you any facts.
And you don't even know anymore whether they're real images or just AI.
Constructs.
This is what I call teardrop news, where the question isn't whether illegal immigrants should have to obey the law.
The question is, does a little Mexican boy have a teardrop on his cheek because his mommy has to go back to Mexico?
It's almost impossible to explain to most women that these are two separate questions.
That the question of whether a little boy is crying for his mommy who was deported is a different question than whether people who broke into the country illegally should be sent home, should be deported.
Those are two.
Absolutely separate questions.
You know, there can be a lovely Muslim, maybe an absolutely lovely guy, and it makes a great patriotic American, but Islam itself may be antithetical to Western values at scale.
There are many wonderful gay folks who contribute so much to our culture and other places, but queer theory is evil.
And, you know, there's a woman may be a great doctor, but female mothers are way more important than female doctors.
You could erase all the female doctors, and medicine would say, at exactly the same level of goodness and accomplishment, erase all the female mothers.
The country and civilization itself disappears.
So, all of these things are built into a media that is built for this.
It is built to impress you, whether you're a man or a woman, with immediate emotion which can be used by the person feeding you those emotional stories.
And we have to start to think about all the time how we're going to deal with that so we can know the truth, so that the truth can keep us free.
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Chapter two, everybody panic.
This is one of the funniest lines I ever wrote.
It's in a movie called Shock to the System with Michael Caine.
And at one point, Caine comes in and everybody's in his company is hysterical.
And he says, Don't everybody panic.
You, you, and you panic.
The rest stay calm.
I have seen this quoted by other people as if they had said it, but I was there when it was written.
So I know that I wrote it.
And one of the things that, you know, when I'm doing this show, Clavin's on the Culture, in the last one, episode two, we were talking about ghost stories and how fear is a doorway.
To belief, right?
And that can be a good thing.
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, right?
If you're afraid of the right things, then you will believe in the right things.
But it's a good way to create a fake reality as well.
And that is why government is always telling you we're in a crisis because they want more power.
If they would just come out and say, we want more power to control your lives because we can control your life better than you do, you wouldn't have a problem knowing what reality is.
But when they come out and say, 98% of scientists believe we're going to die in 10 minutes if you don't give up your car or let us run how much gas your car has to use, Then you don't know what reality is, and you believe them because you're afraid, and you give them power.
And that's what it's all about.
So AI is the thing that is actually creating.
We see with this MAGA influencer story how easy it is for MAGA to create a reality, a false reality that people want to believe in and will believe in.
And so it is an interesting moment when Bernie Sanders, a reliable source of falsehood in all things and certainly in government, calls for Congress.
To put a pause on AI development and listen to what he says.
It's cut four.
We're talking about now a technology which, in many respects, will be able to do anything that a human being can do and do it better.
And what people have got to ask themselves is who is pushing this revolution?
And the answer is, not surprisingly, the wealthiest people in the world Mr. Musk, Mr. Bezos, Mr. Ellison, Mr. Zuckerberg.
Why are they doing it?
You think they're doing it to improve life for working people?
I don't think so.
They're doing it to become even richer and more powerful.
Just the other day, Mr. Bezos, one of the big pushers of AI, announced he was going to raise, try to raise $100 billion to do what?
To automate.
Factories in America and around the world.
He already is working to get rid of the 600,000 workers that he has in Amazon warehouses, can replace them with robots.
And now he wants to do that all over the country.
So we are looking at the possibility of massive unemployment in blue collar work and in white collar work.
So this is classic socialism.
Economy basically organized from the top is always going to happen.
It's always going to happen.
Somebody invents the car.
And they say we have to put a stop to this because all the buggy whip makers are going to be put out of business.
And yes, all the buggy whip makers are going to be put out of business, but there will be new jobs.
And this is probably what's going to happen with AI.
But that doesn't mean that the opposite side of this, that we should let AI and the companies that do AI do anything they want, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's true.
Because I've said this from the beginning AI is not a consciousness.
It is just a machine that imitates consciousness and it is essentially, and it has no way of feeling anything.
It has no way of experiencing anything the way human beings experience.
So it's basically a mechanical sociopath.
I've said this from the beginning of AI.
If I were a demon, AI is where I would go to live.
And we've had all kinds of stories about people falling in love with ChatGPT and ending up killing themselves.
This has happened.
We have people who wanted to kill themselves, and one of the AI chatbots talked them into it.
Now in Florida, the Attorney General James Uthmeyer is investigating.
Open AI because the chat GPT gave some advice to a gunman who opened fire at Florida State University last year.
Who's Uthmeyer describing his investigation?
Cut five.
The communication between the shooter and chat GPT revealed that the chat bot advised the shooter on what type of gun to use, on which ammo went with which gun, on whether or not a gun would be useful in short range.
Chat GPT advised the shooter on What time of day would be appropriate for the shooting to interact with more people?
And where on campus would be the place to encounter a higher population?
My prosecutors have looked at this and they've told me if it was a person on the other end of that screen, we would be charging them with murder.
Just a fascinating case as far as I'm concerned.
But so look, again, you have a leftist who's doing something we know is a disaster.
You can't stop AI because China's going to get it.
All of our competitors are going to get it and they're going to blow us away if we're not keeping up with them.
So that's just not going to happen.
It can't happen in a competitive world unless we're going to surrender.
To death and decline.
On the other hand, it is fair to say that things are going to happen that will not be good.
So, a pure capitalist, a guy who just thinks capitalism is always great, might call people Luddites.
The Luddites were the people they were named after a mythical guy named Ned Ludd.
They were people who broke the machines when the Industrial Revolution came out because they were destroying their jobs, they were destroying their families, their family children being shipped off to factories to get had to go to factories to get money.
It was doing all these changes.
And people say, yes, but look at the machines and how wonderful.
They have made our lives and how much better everything is.
But in that generation, the destruction was quite terrible.
And it also destroyed the economic power of women by destroying all of their cottage industries, causing feminism to arise.
Let's just say feminism arose at exactly that moment when that was happening, when people said, oh, women have no power.
And I think feminism has been a disaster because it wasn't solving the problem, which was the death of cottage industries.
But the problem is not the AI.
The problem is always us.
It's always what we use things for.
AI is going to be a tool.
We can't let it get out of hand.
We can't let it take over.
But we have to see where the problems arise and where the abuse arises as we go forward into AI.
The problem is you cannot do that when your collective values have ceased to exist.
When we have one side who says, oh, we would like individuals to be free and government to be small, and the other people who say, people like Bernie Sanders who say, we want people to be small and government to be all powerful.
And so this is the problem with.
This moment when reality itself is up for grabs, when the power to define reality is up for grabs, we have nowhere to return to and no way to know where we're supposed to center ourselves.
And that's what I want to talk about next.
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It's K L A V A N. Chapter Three How Movies Go Bad.
Now, I'm going to talk about a movie I watched that I thought was a bad movie, and so I'm going to give some spoilers.
I'm going to give it away.
So, there's no point in watching this film.
I don't think it's very good, and it's way too long.
So, it's called Crime 101.
It's a crime thriller with Chris Hemsworth and Mark Ruffalo and Halle Berry, all good actors, all enjoyable to watch.
It's written and directed by Bart Layton, but it is based on a novella by Don Winslow.
Now, Don Winslow is a very, very talented crime writer who is very, very far left.
He writes these really Fascinating, well researched stories about the drug industry, drug cartels in Mexico.
He blames everything on America.
Everything is always America's fault.
Everything is always capitalism's fault.
And so he's a very, very, very left wing guy, hates Trump with a passion, but a good writer.
You know, talent is blind, it goes where it will, and he does a good job.
And I would read his stuff.
I have read a number of his books and enjoyed them, but he is a very left wing guy.
So this is a heist film where Hemsworth is a thief, but he's supposed to be an understandable kind of Bad guy.
He's a poor boy who became a thief.
They tell us in the picture about 20 times that no one has ever gotten hurt in his robberies.
Now, that doesn't stop him from sticking guns in people's faces, from traumatizing people, from risking death, but we're supposed to imprint that on our brains that he's never hurt anybody.
And Mark Ruffalo is the cop, the schlumpy cop, who is the moral voice of the film and is obsessively chasing the guy.
And Hemsworth has a scene where Hemsworth is driving a limo, pretending to be a limo driver, and Ruffalo, who's onto him, is pretending to be his passenger.
And they have this scene with a Where Ruffalo begins to feel compassion for this poor boy who was just driven to become a thief.
So here's that scene, it's cut six.
I was a kid who tripped about having a Mustang.
Like Steve McQueen?
Yeah.
Yeah, Steve McQueen.
It's funny, a guy your age wouldn't normally know who Steve McQueen is.
You're like robots in those movies.
What's your favorite?
I'd say bullet, you know, the chases.
Yeah, mine's Thomas Crown affair.
The Queen plays a high-class thief.
I didn't catch that one.
So I never saw that one because obviously Ruffalo's trying to get in on him because he's a high-class thief and he's kind of, they're kind of dueling with each other.
But the point of the scene is that Ruffalo starts to feel compassion for this guy and ends up, and here's the spoiler, he ends up letting him get away.
And he not only lets him get away, but he, who has been the moral pillar throughout this story, actually steals some of the stuff that he's stolen because it's covered by insurance, so who cares, and gives it to another character in the movie who he feels has been hard done by.
That's Winslow socialism at work, right?
If people have money, then it doesn't belong to them.
You are allowed to steal it.
It's not such a bad thing to steal it.
And if they're bad people with money, then you can break the law yourself.
It is a really, it's like, you know, if rich people are doing something, they're immediately suspect and immediately bad.
And that badness somehow deprives them of their rights.
The movie is bad because you don't feel sympathy for Chris Hemsworth.
You don't think he should be let go.
You don't think.
Any of this stuff should happen because you haven't proved, you haven't actually put your values where they need to be to make that scene.
You can let a thief get away at the end of a movie if he hasn't killed anybody, but you have to make a much, much better case than he's sympathetic and he was poor.
The whole film is an imitation of a much, much, much better film called Heat, which is a 1995 film by Michael Mann starring Pacino and De Niro.
Really, really, it's one of the most watchable films ever.
And it is also about a thief who's played by Robert De Niro and the cop who's chasing him, who's played by Al Pacino.
And it is filmed, this film is shot in almost exactly some scenes are actually directly, just the shots are taken out of it.
But in this wonderful crime scene, you have the very famous scene where Pacino and De Niro meet the cop and the detective, and they find out they're virtually the same person.
They have all the same problems, they have all the same ways of thinking, but one of them ended up on the side of the law, and the other one ended up against the law.
And here is what How Pacino and De Niro, the cop and the thief, work out that situation in this scene, cut seven.
If I'm there and I gotta put you away, I won't like it.
But I'll tell you, if it's between you and some poor bastard whose wife you're gonna turn into a widow, brother, you are going down.
there's a flip side to that coin.what if you do got me boxed in?and I gotta put you down?cause no matter what,you will not get in my way.we've been face to face. yeah.but I will not hesitatemot for a second. so it doesn't change their nature.it doesn't change the morality of the situation.he says it. when he says you,
we've been face to face,what he means is, They like each other, they see each other, they know who each one is, but it does not in any way change the moral equation or their characters. Their character, one of them is a cop because that's who he is, and one of them is a thief because that's who he is,
and it doesn't change the moral equation of the story. You can't tell a good story without a proper understanding of the invisible world, the world of morals, the world of values. That is what stories are about. And I see film after film that goes awry in storytelling,
you know, because sometimes you can get away with it. If nobody notices because the story is so good, but they go around storytelling because they do not know what makes a character sympathetic because they do not know right from wrong because they have lost their way and they actually believe things like there's no God that isn't true. I mean,
whenever I see a modern Dracula film, there's a new one out now called Dracula Love Tale by Luc Besson, which kind of steals the idea from Francis Ford Coppola's movie about Dracula, which I don't like either, in which Dracula is hunting a woman he loves through time,
waiting for her. To be, since he's immortal, waiting for her to be reborn. But Dracula can't be in love because he has no soul. But we don't know what that means anymore, so they don't understand the story of Dracula. And just like Nosferatu, which is such a beautifully directed film,
but it goes awry because they don't understand what the movie is about, it's about somebody without soul. So if the medium is the message, you have to be able to work the medium in a different way. And the way you do that is you do your job. You stop trying to tell people,
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it will do it. And that is what I want to finish. One of the big, finish with, which is one of the big questions that I hear conservatives asking all the time, we talk about it on Friendly Fire a lot, is do you fight fire with fire? If the left is destroying the country by cheating and lying and creating these Places like the Southern Poverty Law Center,
which are just absolutely wicked in what they're doing. Do we do the same thing? And I would like to make the argument that the answer to what they're doing is doing your job. Doing your job is one of the most powerful things that you can do. And I will talk about that in the final chapter. I miss my days as a fisherman. I used to fish all the time and I loved it. And I loved the taste of fresh caught fish,
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The Sacred Art of Doing Your Job. This is something I've wanted to talk about for a long time. It keeps getting pushed out of the notes for the show, partly because I hate to give advice. I don't feel like I'm here to give you advice. I'm just here to describe the world in a way that I think is both true and comprehensible. But sometimes I feel like you have to say something,
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especially when this new world is coming, this new world of technology and art. And space travel, it's all coming, and I'm not going to be here. It's going to be what you make of it,
you know? And I think that there are certain things that have been forgotten, and one of them is the sacred art of doing your job. I mean, things like AI are going to create conditions that didn't exist before, but what those conditions come to in the end is going to be up to you, right? I mean, the industrial revolution. I think it led to feminism. But what has happened to feminism,
which was a perfectly reasonable thing to say at the beginning that women should have the rights of all people, and has now become like everything, this Clavin's Law. Once you have a social movement, it will achieve its goals as much as is possible and then be taken over by the left and then ultimately have the opposite goals than it started out with and accuse you of violating the original goals if you oppose them. So feminism,
a perfect example, it starts out women should have rights. Women get rights. It then is taken over by the left. Who end up saying family is bad, motherhood is bad. Oh, and by the way, there are no women. Men can be women. So it comes the opposite. But if you say, I oppose this, then you're against women's rights. And that's so that's Clavin's Law. So the answer always, though, how do you find your way is to do your job. Let me show you something I mean. I was thrilled by the Artemis II mission,
that mission that went around the moon. But there was one thing that disturbed me about it. And I don't mean to pick on these astronauts. They're wonderful. I admire the astronauts. But Christina Cook said something specifically. That really went up my spine. And here she is talking about being on this mission and talking to her family as a cut eight. As someone who doesn't necessarily like attention,
I don't like my birthday, the birthday song being sung to me, any of that. My husband said that before I got back, he had a conversation with my brothers and sisters, and they were like, Who's going to tell her? Because we didn't know. And in fact,
what we were told really through talking with a couple of times with our families, Was that there was an impact, not necessarily the number of viewers or anything like that, but that there was a positive impact. When my husband looked me in the eye on that video call and said,
No, really, you've made a difference, it brought tears to my eyes. And I said, That's all we ever wanted. She did. I don't know if she made a difference. I don't know what difference she could possibly have made. That's not her job. Her job is not to make a difference. Her job is to get to the moon and back and then go back again. Plant a flag on the moon and build a station there,
and all of those things. I think that that idea, you're not going to make a difference. Only doing your job is what makes a difference. Whether you're a mom and that's your job, whether you are a reporter, whether you're an artist, whether you're a guy who digs roads, whatever you are, that is how you are going to make a difference. And the world at the level she's talking about does not change. It does not change. Technology creates the illusion of change,
but Human beings remain exactly the same. Karl Marx had on his headstone, it's a quote from one of his essays. The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. He was changing the meaning of philosophy. He was not doing his job. He wanted to change the world. A philosopher's job is to understand the world. One thing you cannot find in the Gospels is Jesus saying, make a difference, change the world. He never says it. He says,
the world is going to stink, basically. He says, in the world you will have trouble. He wants you to change yourself. He wants you to, you can change, but the world is going to be the world. That is the whole point of the world. It is bad. Marx is wrong. So, the philosopher's job is to understand the world, the artist's job is to depict the world, the reporter's job is to tell you all the facts, even the ones that go against your political side. It's very painful to do that. I've done it, but you have to do it. You have to tell the truth. The builder's job, build well, the doctor's job to heal,
all of this. The most important job, which is mothering, is to nurture souls into individuality, right? It's like into being the image of God within them, not to be an imitation of you, not to be the image of you, or to fulfill your ambitions, or to avenge the wrongs. That you've suffered, which I've seen a lot of people destroy their children doing, trying to create the guy who goes out and has the baseball career that you didn't have and all this. If you don't, your job has specs,
it has things that you have to accomplish. If you don't do that, then everything else is ego and feels. It's just feels like, oh, my eyes filled with tears because my family said, you know, I made a difference. To the moon and back and stay safe. Now, they did that. And again, I love these people. I absolutely admire them. But that kind of feel stuff is baloney. You know,
I write stories and I live in a time when a lot of people I know have been canceled. They've sacrificed that. You know, becoming an artist when you actually make it, when you have a life like I have had,
looks really great. And it is really great. It's a wonderful life. I'm so happy to have lived it and to be living it still. But you. You are taking an enormous risk. You are risking your life. How many people do I know who didn't make it and wound up being less than they could have been if they'd simply gone to law school or something like that? How many people do I know who,
in this current environment, have been blacklisted, have been kicked out of their work, even though they had the skill and the luck to have made it? I know a lot. It is a very difficult thing to do. But my job is not to. So I get these letters all the time,
people saying, well, how can. You know, I've written a book and it has wonderful values. I'd like you to read it. And I, first of all, I don't have time to read it. But secondly, I don't care what your values are. If you're a writer of novels, I want you to tell a great story. I want you to tell a great story. If a story is great, it will link up to the values of the world. Every one of them does. Every great story somehow links up to the values of the world, even if the guy didn't mean it to, even if the guy himself is evil. If he knows how to write a story,
it will eventually reveal something about man's relationship to God in the world. It just will. It's just the way it's what stories do, it's what they do. So if you do your job, the story will do it for you. If you show people excellence when you fix their car and honesty, When you fix their car. You know, Antonin Scalia, who was a devout Catholic, he was once asked, How do you be a Catholic judge? He said, Be the best judge you know how to be. Do your job. So, see, as I said earlier,
Friedrich Nietzsche, who was a great philosopher, he was insane and he ended up truly insane, but I think he was always going insane. As you read his books, you can see him going more and more insane. But he was the great. Prophet of godlessness. He was the guy who really understood what it meant that Christianity was going out of the world. And that's the phrase,
the famous phrase from one of his books, God is Dead, I think it's Gay Science, God is Dead, right? Is a scene where this madman comes on the scene and he says, God is dead. You've killed God and now you're going to have to become gods in order to replace him. And he says the people don't realize what they've done because there's still the aftermath of God,
this kind of moral universe that they're living in that they think is going to hold. But eventually it's going to collapse. Now it has. Now it has collapsed. This is Nietzsche's time. He has finally been proved right. So these morals have disappeared. And what Nietzsche said is now you have to figure out what he called the genealogy of morals,
which is like deconstructing morals. What prejudices are they built on? And why do they become morals? He believed that Christianity was a sort of a plot by weak people to make strong people afraid to be strong. And he wanted supermen to come in and replace the love of neighbor with the will to power. And it's funny because the guy who actually followed his lead more than anybody was the philosopher Michel Foucault,
who wanted to destroy all power structures. And he found out that the most entrenched power structures were inside himself, inside his notions of pleasure and pain. And so, being a homosexual masochist,
he went on a years long orgy of masochistic sex, which killed him. He died of AIDS, and probably a lot of the people he slept with. With died because he never protected them or anything like that. So he probably died in Murray. And it's just hilarious to me in my ugly sense of humor,
this ugly Morden sense of humor that I have, that he's the guy that academics look at and say, What a great philosopher! What a great philosopher! It's like, Really? You know, you screw yourself to death and take a lot of people with you to prove, and that's actually your philosophy, and that's the philosophy you want to follow? Well, yes, it is. That's the philosophy that the left wants to follow because when you rewrite God's law, you wind up not with a new moral law,
you wind up with With evil. That is just true. That is the story of lots and lots of plays from Macbeth to Paradise Lost to Nietzsche himself, actually, to Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky. When you rewrite God's laws, you do not get a new moral order, you simply get evil. And so this new world is coming as we speak, as I'm talking to you the space travel and the AI and healthier,
longer lives. And what you have to do, what each of you has to do, To fight this crazy leftism, which is going to have a place in this world. It's going to exist in this world. It may even have power in this world. It may collapse at some point, but it may not. It may actually rule the world. The only way to fight it is not by taking it on, by becoming it. You can't beat it by becoming it. This is the flaw in this logic. You beat it through excellence,
and you find excellence by first figuring out what God's moral order is. And you'll never figure out the whole thing, but you figure out at least the beginning. Stop thinking about what the other guy is doing wrong. None of your business. And you follow that moral order and become excellent at what you do,
as excellent as you can be. Be the best mother. Be the best electrician. Be the best journalist, whatever. That is the way, because those are the things that people are going to turn to when they are lost, as we are lost right now, as we don't know where the reality is. If you are the trustworthy voice, you will become the reality, because if you build the truth, they will come. People will come to find the truth, and ultimately,
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Give me all your gut.
Yeah, That was Al Pacino.
Al Pacino in his memoir says that the part was written in Heat, as a cocaine addict, and then they cut all the cocaine scenes out of the picture after the picture was made.
So he overplays his part because he's always supposed to be stoned and he's screaming and crazy.
But that part of the movie got cut out, which I did think explained his performance. All right. Claven Clapbacks at DailyWire.com. Claven with a K, Clapbacks with a K. Write in, ask me anything you want. I'm sorry I can't get to more letters. We only have a little time,
but I read a lot of them and love to hear from you. I'd love to hear what you're thinking about and what's going on in your lives, and we'll answer the ones that I can. From Connor, Dear Bald One of Endless Wisdom. He's not here, so I'll have to take the question. Well, you're half right. On one of your recent shows,
you called pacifism a wicked philosophy that shifts the moral responsibility of fighting onto others. I'm a Christian, and I would consider myself a pacifist. With limited exceptions. I think it's both unfair and uncharacteristically intolerant of you to say that pacifism is wicked. Most of the early Christians were pacifists. Would you say the majority of the early church was wicked? I take Jesus' command not to resist an evil person literally. Like I mentioned earlier,
I believe in exceptions. I think that husbands and fathers have an obligation to defend their families, lest they be condemned, as Paul says, worse than unbelievers. We can put our families' lives above those. who wish to harm them, but the self-sacrificing love of Jesus demands that we not put our own lives above those who'd wish to harm us. All right, here's the first thing. You're not a pacifist. Okay, pacifists believe it is always wrong to do violence. And obviously,
it's not always wrong to do violence. It's a stupid philosophy. So yes, of course, you're going to defend your wife if she's attacked. You're going to defend your children if they are attacked. And then the question becomes, well, why aren't you going to defend your neighbor when he gets attacked? And why aren't you going to defend your town? And ultimately, why aren't you going to defend your country? So I am aware that Christians have been pacifists,
but I think they're misreading what Jesus said because Jesus would not say, turn the other cheek when somebody slaps your wife. I do not believe that he would say that. He doesn't say that. What Jesus, as I read it, is saying is obviously you want to be a peaceful person. Obviously you will sacrifice a little bit of honor to keep the peace. You know,
you don't get flamed up because somebody insults you. You don't answer words with blows. Very hard to do sometimes because there are such things as fighting words. Peacefulness is, of course, a prime Christian value. I absolutely believe that. But to leave other people to do the fighting does not make sense to me. Even that movie that I really enjoyed about the guy who went to war without a rifle and saved lives and was an incredibly courageous guy,
I still didn't think his philosophy made any sense. I mean, I suppose in that sense, you put yourself in danger and you save lives. I suppose you can say you're still. You're still helping the war effort. But it seems to me kind of like these things that drive me crazy,
like when a Jewish person is taking a Sabbath off, so he gets a Gentile person, they call him a Shabbos goy, gets a Gentile person to do something for him. If you're going to break the rules, what difference does it make? Just break all the rules. It just seems kind of ridiculous. So that's where I stand on it. And I do think it is wrong to make other people do the fighting for you,
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which is why it's a little bit of a fuzzy issue on the guy who goes to war without a rifle because he doesn't. Just let other people fight for him. He goes out into the battlefield and does it himself. Chad says, how can you say we lose the Constitution if we have to resort to violence when this country was taken from the crown and founded by force? Take a look at history and see how many times that happens. Almost never. It almost never happens. That's something unique about the American Revolution. First of all,
because it wasn't a revolution. It was a, I don't know what you call it when a colony breaks away, but that is very different. Secondly, it was an act of God that we had the people that we had to write our Constitution and to write the laws, you know, not just the laws, but give the vision from the Declaration that governs us. How many times do you get Jefferson, Franklin, Washington, and Adams and Madison in the same place at the same time? The odds of that are really,
really small. Much more likely that you're going to get the French Revolution tyranny, destruction, murder on a grand scale. So I'm not saying it can't happen, that all the things fall into place, but it's not the usual things that happen when you take up arms against your own country. Molly, greetings to the guru of Happy Warriors. As one of the few conservative voices that has been in the business of entertainment and participates in its creation,
I can always trust you to critique the arts honestly and truthfully and with a Christian perspective. The world of live theater is not kind nor welcoming to those with non progressive viewpoints. What words of advice do you have to young people who have a passion for theater but feel the need to be closet conservatives in those spaces and professions? Yeah,
I do not believe in hiding. I just don't. I have not done it all my life. I've gotten into a lot of trouble. I've lost a lot of things that I could have kept if I had kept my mouth shut, but I recommend it. I recommend it because your soul is the only thing you've really got. It's the only thing you take with you when you go,
and it is worth preserving it and building it into as strong a thing as you can. The theater world is the most closed minded, small minded world there is in the arts. I can't think of another one. There's my friend out in Ohio with Stage Wright Theater. You can go there. But I just believe that you should speak your mind and it's going to cost you and pay the price. That's what I believe. And I believe that you should start your own theater and do your own stuff. This is what I think. You know,
on Friendly Fire, Ben said, well, Hollywood is coming around. That's somewhat true. But I think Hollywood is over. I think the movies are over. I think, you know, they're not over. They'll still be good movies. But I think really what's going to happen now is the arts are going to become much more democratized. And I think you should be part of that movement and start to create things yourself and get them out there and learn how to get them out there and build your own stuff because that is the way you're going to beat them by competing with them,
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