Andrew Klavan Show - Ep. 1275 - Dumb, Dumber and Progressive
Aired: 2026-04-17
Duration: 01:08:04


=== Swalwell's Oubliette and Ghost Stories (05:40) ===

[00:00:00]  Eric Swalwell has ended his campaign for California governor and resigned from Congress, saying he wants to spend more time with his family, a drunken staffer, and the woman he has imprisoned in the oubliette in his basement.
[00:00:13]  Swalwell made his decision after several women accused him of doing what everyone knew he was doing, but no one said he was doing, until it turned out his crappy gubernatorial campaign might get a Republican elected in California.
[00:00:25]  Swalwell said the charges that he pestered, assaulted, and even raped women were as untrue as the charges Swalwell himself leveled against Brett Kavanaugh.
[00:00:33]  if you didn't count all the women Swalwell pestered, assaulted, and raped.
[00:00:37]  In a statement Swalwell issued while simultaneously attempting to keep a straight face, the former congressman said, quote, I want to declare categorically that I never had non-consensual sex with a Chinese spy.
[00:00:49]  And when I did have sex with a Chinese spy, I not only had her consent, but the consent of the entire Chinese Communist Party.
[00:00:56]  Even then, I never once shared with her any of the classified information I was privy to on the House Intelligence Committee, except a few times when I might have shouted out the occasional tidbit in the throes of ecstasy.
[00:01:07]  Which could have happened to anyone because the Chinese teach their spies to do such amazing, amazing stuff in the sack.
[00:01:14]  As for the other women I forced myself on, those assaults were totally consensual.
[00:01:18]  And sure, some of those babes might have been drunk at the time, but it's not my fault they can't hold their roofies." Swalwell is also accused of sending women pictures of his penis in the belief that somewhere in our infinite multiverse, with its numberless versions of reality, there exists an alternate timeline which includes a woman who wants to see a picture of Eric Swalwell's penis, a belief that turned out to be entirely untrue.
[00:01:41]  Swalwell's fellow Democrats said they were absolutely shocked to find out he had been doing what they knew he'd been doing and said they would have spoken out earlier had they known what they obviously knew.
[00:01:52]  Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, for instance, said, quote, if I had for one moment suspected what I was absolutely sure of, I would never have allowed Swalwell to remain on the Intelligence Committee while he was clearly banging a Chinese spy, unquote.
[00:02:05]  Pelosi then vanished as her entire body was subsumed by the bottomless moral emptiness within her, but Democrats said they nonetheless hoped to convince her to run for reelection.
[00:02:16]  Other leftist hacks were also stunned to learn what they already knew.
[00:02:19]  For instance, the New York Times, a former newspaper, ran an editorial that said, It is long past time that we, as a society, learn to believe all women who were too drunk to remember what actually happened and then went for years pretending it hadn't happened and then said it happened but were too drunk to remember what it was.
[00:02:37]  Swalwell is a married man, and this paper feels it is wrong to commit adultery when your crappy gubernatorial campaign might get a Republican elected.
[00:02:46]  Otherwise, of course, we recommend adultery as a fun way to freshen up your marriage until not only your family, but hopefully the American family as an institution falls to pieces, leading to the collapse of liberty, which would allow wise elites like ourselves to impose a socialist paradise, or at least kill anyone who says it's not a paradise, which amounts to the same thing.
[00:03:07]  Feminists also attacked Swalwell.
[00:03:09]  Stanford professor of advanced hostility, Susan Schreik, author of the best selling feminist tract, I Almost Hate You More Than Myself, spoke to reporters. in an ear-splitting skirl of inhuman sound, saying, quote, The worst aspect of Swalwell's behavior is that he makes it seem as if feminists should not have supported a sexual revolution that denied the procreative purpose of sex and its accompanying moral restrictions.
[00:03:34]  That would mean feminists were wrong about everything, and we feminists don't believe that because we're wrong about everything.
[00:03:40]  And while we're on the subject of Eric Swalwell, where's that picture of his penis he promised me?
[00:03:45]  Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Clavin, and this is The Andrew Clavin Show.
[00:04:04]  All right, we are back laughing our way through the rise of the American empire.
[00:04:09]  And let me tell you, Spencer Clavin, no relation, and I are also back with the second episode of Clavin's on the Culture.
[00:04:18]  And this time we're talking about a Japanese film that's been a hit around the world and has just opened here.
[00:04:23]  It's called The Exit Eight.
[00:04:25]  And really what we're talking about is ghost stories and the new kinds of ghost stories that are being invented on the internet that involve what is called liminal spaces.
[00:04:33]  I have to tell you, I say this with complete confidence.
[00:04:37]  Humility.
[00:04:37]  It is a great discussion, and I believe it's a unique discussion.
[00:04:40]  It's something you cannot get anywhere else.
[00:04:43]  I think these are two people, one of them being me, who actually know a lot about the culture and are talking about it from a conservative point of view.
[00:04:51]  And it's just different, and not just complaining, and not even at all complaining about leftism.
[00:04:56]  We're testing this show out.
[00:04:58]  We're going to do about six episodes, but your viewership will determine whether the show continues.
[00:05:03]  So please tune in.
[00:05:04]  I think even if you're not interested in the subject, I think you're going to find it very, very interesting.
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[00:05:31]  Today's comment comes from Antonio Davidius and he says, The wild, wily old sage, I guess that's me, the wily old sage has finally done it.

=== Attacking the System of Ideas (14:50) ===

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[00:05:56]  All right, let's get to today's episode, Dumb, Dumber, and Progressive.
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[00:07:39]  Chapter One, What Went Wrong.
[00:07:42]  One of the most dishonest sentences that appears and reappears in our dishonest media is the sentence that says, Americans have lost faith in their institutions.
[00:07:53]  This sentence, as far as I'm concerned, is like the words homophobia and Islamophobia, and like the word dragon, for that matter, in that it describes something that can be imagined but has no analog in reality.
[00:08:07]  It doesn't actually exist.
[00:08:08]  It is not true.
[00:08:10]  That, well, it's not true that there are dragons.
[00:08:12]  There's no such thing as a dragon, and there's no homophobia and Islamophobia.
[00:08:15]  There are definitely people who are cruel to unoffending gay and Muslim people, which is disgusting.
[00:08:20]  I think that stinks.
[00:08:21]  But most people aren't phobic at all.
[00:08:23]  They've simply observed that an activist gay agenda quickly leads to an anti family celebration of perversity and pedophilia, and that Islam as a worldview seems to have some difficulty coexisting with other worldviews without acts of violence.
[00:08:40]  And people are concerned about these things, which is a completely reasonable thing to be.
[00:08:44]  That is not bigotry, like spotting somebody whose face is a different color than yours and just hating him for that reason.
[00:08:51]  It is attacking a system of ideas, and people are not phobic about it.
[00:08:56]  And it's also not true that Americans have lost faith in their institutions.
[00:09:02]  The truth is, their institutions have lost Americans' faith.
[00:09:06]  It is not a passive thing.
[00:09:08]  We didn't just one day wake up and think, I don't know.
[00:09:11]  I suddenly don't believe in the media.
[00:09:14]  No, it's what you guys did, it's what the media did.
[00:09:17]  And, you know, here's the thing the institutions are, you know, we've talked, obviously, everybody's talked about the left's march through the institutions.
[00:09:26]  So now it's a system.
[00:09:28]  The academies spew radicalism and they corrupt our children, make them hate their country, make them hate their parents and discard their parents' values.
[00:09:36]  The journalists who graduate from the academies then put their radicalism to work, distorting the truth.
[00:09:43]  In order to denigrate our founding values and elevate leftism and eliminate liberty, especially.
[00:09:50]  And the examples, best examples, are obvious the lies about Trump's non existent Russian collusion, a complete hoax that they not only lied and lied about for two years, they gave themselves Pulitzer Prizes for lying about it.
[00:10:04]  I didn't realize that's what the Pulitzer Prize was for, but apparently so.
[00:10:07]  Their censorious and dishonest reporting on COVID, where people were knocked off platforms and condemned and screamed at and yelled at.
[00:10:15]  For saying we don't need to wear masks, which we didn't, or we don't have to take the vaccine, which most people didn't, that we should keep our churches open, that we should keep our economy open.
[00:10:27]  Trump actually himself floated that idea and was immediately shouted down.
[00:10:31]  This was a conspiracy of lies that the media committed with the help of the left, which is basically just saying the same thing.
[00:10:39]  The media is virtually the communication arm of the left.
[00:10:42]  And they're reporting, they're inciting and counterfactual reporting on the death of George Floyd.
[00:10:48]  which was intended to encourage rage and violence and it did.
[00:10:52]  George Floyd was a lowlife and whether he died in custody because of the way he was arrested or not, it certainly was not an act of murder and the police do not kill more black people even percentage-wise than they do whites.
[00:11:07]  They run into more black crime because there is more black crime percentage-wise.
[00:11:13]  So I have to say, I have to add this and it sounds egotistical and maybe it is, but I sometimes joke That this show gives you tomorrow's news today.
[00:11:26]  And the truth is, I have puzzled over this because I think it's true.
[00:11:30]  I have been right about things not just often, but earlier than a lot of other outlets.
[00:11:38]  And I always sit around and say, why is this true?
[00:11:41]  When basically I'm a detective story writer.
[00:11:44]  I'm not a political expert.
[00:11:46]  I write detective stories.
[00:11:48]  That's been my life.
[00:11:49]  Now, the last time I said this to my son, he had had a few drinks and he said, that's a lot of crap.
[00:11:56]  He didn't say it quite that politely, actually.
[00:11:58]  But he said I was full of it.
[00:12:00]  And so maybe I'm a very observant detective story writer.
[00:12:04]  But still, there should be a lot of experts who are getting things right more often than I am.
[00:12:10]  And there aren't.
[00:12:11]  And that's not to say there aren't great people.
[00:12:12]  I mean, Victor Davis Hansen, leaving the Daily Wire out of it, Victor Davis Hansen has been amazing during the Trump years.
[00:12:19]  But our expert class on both the left and the right has gone bad in some ways.
[00:12:26]  And I find this very dispiriting for someone with high spirits.
[00:12:30]  But I'll tell you why I think it's happened.
[00:12:31]  There's a story this week from Yale.
[00:12:34]  This is the report about it in the Wall Street Journal.
[00:12:37]  It says, last spring, Yale University President Maurice McInnes asked a group of faculty to examine why Americans were losing confidence in higher education.
[00:12:48]  And again, Americans are not losing confidence in higher education.
[00:12:52]  Higher education has forfeited, has lost their confidence.
[00:12:55]  All right, so he wanted this report and he wanted remedies to restore that confidence, which at least he understood had to come from him, not from the people.
[00:13:03]  Their much anticipated findings released Wednesday call for changes to address everything from perceived political bias among faculty to opaque admission standards and crushing student debt.
[00:13:15]  Perceived political bias.
[00:13:17]  I mean, how are they going to get at the truth if they can't even speak the truth?
[00:13:20]  And of course, this is the journal reporting, so it's the journal not speaking the truth.
[00:13:24]  But perceived political bias.
[00:13:26]  Even in the story, it points out that registered Democrats outnumber Republicans 36 to 1 across top schools within Yale.
[00:13:34]  And you can.
[00:13:36]  Bet your bottom dollar that the percentage is way, way higher in the liberal arts where culture is formed and the culture makers are formed and culture receivers are formed.
[00:13:45]  And it's not just Democrats, it's radical leftists.
[00:13:48]  Now, this not only means that our expert class is corrupted by leftism, and what I mean is what they call in the UK the chattering classes, the people who talk, the people who make culture, the people who teach, the people who write, the people who report the news.
[00:14:02]  It also means this doesn't mean that just the left are corrupted.
[00:14:07]  It also means that conservative experts.
[00:14:09]  Intellectuals are put in danger of corruption by their own interests, right?
[00:14:15]  Conservative intellectuals can't depend on independent tenured positions at excellent universities.
[00:14:21]  So they can say whatever they want because they have tenure and they're within a friendly environment.
[00:14:26]  A leftist university professor with tenure can say anything he wants because he's not going to get caught because he agrees with everybody around him and he has tenure, right?
[00:14:37]  Conservatives have to make a living and they have to please you, the audience, or the donors at the think tanks where they work.
[00:14:43]  And both of those things are constraining and make them say things that they might not always believe.
[00:14:49]  It means that if you want to please your audience, you get audience capture.
[00:14:53]  If you want to please the donors, you get donor capture.
[00:14:56]  You know, there are things you can't say.
[00:14:57]  And that means that people who get big numbers by peddling slop and true moral and factual slop, and yes, I'm referring to Tucker Carlson and Candace, They have a truly distorting effect on right wing expertise because a lot of people see that audience and they may not want to join in and say the horrific things that these people are saying, but they don't want to lose the audience that wants to hear those things.
[00:15:21]  So they won't speak up against them and they won't deny the things those people are saying until they find out which way the wind is blowing.
[00:15:28]  And I think that that's corrupting to the right.
[00:15:30]  And look, I've said this a million times, and obviously I'm partly joking, but this is the reason this show is different.
[00:15:37]  Because I don't do that because I want a mission from God.
[00:15:40]  And that mission, and it's a specific mission.
[00:15:42]  It's not just any mission.
[00:15:43]  I don't call balls and strikes.
[00:15:45]  I am on one side, but I try to be honest speaking from that side.
[00:15:48]  And that mission is to defend the founding, the founding of this country.
[00:15:53]  And first and foremost, those institutions and practices from the Bill of Rights to mom and dad marriage that support the freedom of the individual.
[00:16:03]  The freedom of the individual.
[00:16:05]  That is what the Constitution is for.
[00:16:06]  And it thwarts those powers that I want to.
[00:16:10]  Support the things that thwart the powers that think they can run us better than we run ourselves, which is the entire left at this point.
[00:16:18]  So, Clarence Thomas, God love him, recently made some remarks at the University of Texas in Austin.
[00:16:25]  And I'll play you a little bit of what he said, and then I'm going to read it because I edited it for space because I don't want to go on forever.
[00:16:34]  But he's talking about the Constitution as being the means of government, but the declaration that announces the Ends of government, the purposes of government.
[00:16:44]  And here's a brief clip of his talk, it's cut five.
[00:16:47]  The Declaration is, in fact, along with the Gospels, one of the greatest anti slavery documents in the history of Western civilization.
[00:16:57]  It did not establish a form of government.
[00:16:59]  That was the work of the Constitution that followed.
[00:17:03]  But it stated the purpose of government.
[00:17:05]  The Declaration made it clear, in clear prose, that the purpose of government is to protect our God given unalienable rights, rights that all individuals equally possess.
[00:17:19]  Now, this is basically, he's channeling Abraham Lincoln here.
[00:17:24]  That's Abraham Lincoln's view of the Declaration, that it was the Outline, the purpose of the Constitution.
[00:17:30]  What the Constitution was trying to achieve is not stated in the Constitution.
[00:17:33]  That's just the framework.
[00:17:35]  It's stated in the Declaration.
[00:17:37]  I once said that to Alan Dershowitz, and because Dershowitz doesn't want to believe in God, which is where our rights come from, he dismissed, he said Lincoln was wrong.
[00:17:44]  And I thought, yeah, you shouldn't say that too easily, because Lincoln was rarely wrong.
[00:17:50]  But it is true.
[00:17:52]  You cannot, one of the reasons that God is so important to our conversations is that is the reasoning behind the Constitution.
[00:17:58]  And here's what Thomas goes on to say.
[00:18:01]  This is cut six.
[00:18:02]  We do not derive our rights from our government.
[00:18:07]  The primacy of our rights in relation to our government is crucial in reconciling the immortal words of the Declaration with our Constitution and our history.
[00:18:20]  None of our rights come from the government.
[00:18:25]  All of the government's authority comes from our consent.
[00:18:31]  So you have to understand that God is essential.
[00:18:35]  To that formulation, right?
[00:18:37]  Now he goes on, I'm going to read some of this.
[00:18:39]  Like I said, I've edited it for space a little bit.
[00:18:41]  But he says the Constitution, and this is Thomas talking, the Constitution achieves this purpose by protecting our natural rights and liberties from concentrated power and excessive democracy.
[00:18:53]  Concentrated power and excessive democracy.
[00:18:55]  Our Constitution creates a separation of powers and federalism, truly for the first time in modern history, to prevent the government from becoming so strong that it threatens our natural rights.
[00:19:05]  And federalism means this.
[00:19:06]  The system where we have states that have their own powers and the ability to fight back against the federal government.
[00:19:14]  Human history teaches us, alas, that numerical majorities frequently seek to control government and use the state to violate the rights of the minority because man is fallen and the desire for power was, as James Madison described it, sown in the nature of man.
[00:19:31]  Government had to be limited.
[00:19:32]  We have a natural will to power and to have that power over other people.
[00:19:36]  And people, once they get power, don't want to let it go.
[00:19:39]  They want to increase it.
[00:19:40]  So every time they say the government is going to do a new thing, You have to question them.
[00:19:45]  How is this going to give you more power, and how can we stop it from doing that?
[00:19:49]  So Thomas goes on.
[00:19:50]  As we meet today, it is unclear whether these principles will endure.
[00:19:54]  At the beginning of the 20th century, a new set of first principles of government was introduced into the American mainstream.
[00:20:00]  Now, the system he's talking about is progressivism.
[00:20:04]  This is what it was called from the beginning, and one of its most powerful early proponents was President Woodrow Wilson.
[00:20:10]  Now, listen carefully to what Thomas said about Woodrow Wilson, because this is a guy that intellectuals Loved until recently when it was forced on their consciousness that he was a flaming anti black racist.
[00:20:22]  But let's, we'll only get to that.
[00:20:25]  Here's what he had to say.
[00:20:26]  Again, this is Justice Thomas.
[00:20:29]  Progressivism was not native to America.

=== Defeatism with a Purpose (15:33) ===

[00:20:31]  Wilson and the progressives candidly admitted that they took it from Otto von Bismarck's Germany, whose state centric society they admired.
[00:20:41]  The state was at the center, it had all the power rather than the people.
[00:20:44]  Wilson called Germany's system of relatively unimpeded state power, quote, nearly.
[00:20:50]  Perfected, unquote.
[00:20:52]  Wilson described America as slow to see the superiority of the European system.
[00:20:57]  To Wilson, the inalienable rights of the individual were, quote, a lot of nonsense, unquote.
[00:21:04]  As the President of the United States thought that one of the heroes of the left.
[00:21:09]  Wilson redefined liberty so that liberty no longer preceded the government as a gift from God, but was to be enjoyed at the grace of the government.
[00:21:18]  Wilson proposed that the people be ruled by administrators who use them as, quote, unquote, Tools.
[00:21:24]  He aspired to be like Germany, where the people he said admiringly were, quote, docile and acquiescent.
[00:21:31]  You know, we remember this from Barack Obama saying, I wish I could shut the door and get together with the experts and solve these problems.
[00:21:40]  You know, if there's one group of people you do not want solving your problems, it's experts.
[00:21:45]  You can solve your problems yourself if you are willing to take the risks of freedom, which means your failure is your failure and not paid for by me.
[00:21:53]  Now, let me just finish what Clarence Thomas said.
[00:21:57]  The century of progressivism did not go well.
[00:22:01]  The European system that Wilson and the progressives scolded Americans for not adopting, which he called nearly perfect, led to the governments that caused the most awful century that the world has ever seen.
[00:22:14]  Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and Mao all were intertwined with the rise of progressivism, and all were opposed to the natural rights on which our Declaration was based.
[00:22:26]  Many progressives expressed admiration for each of them shortly before their government.
[00:22:32]  Killed tens of millions of people.
[00:22:35]  This is why I am not a respecter of persons, and why, if your favorite podcaster comes under fire, this is why he comes under fire.
[00:22:46]  When Zoram Mamdani talks about the warmth of collectivism, when Tucker Carlson praises Putin or makes excuses for Hitler and openly praises Sharia law, which he is doing now, when the New York Times, during the first Trump administration, said the deep state.
[00:23:03]  Was better than anything because it was saving the nation from the evil Trump.
[00:23:07]  And even when Catholic integralists want to bring back throne and altar and get rid of the system of government we have, they are all making the same mistake.
[00:23:17]  They are giving up on or opposing the founding and its protections of individual freedom, your freedom, not the freedom of a class, not the freedom of a nation, not the freedom of anything but you, your choice to live the life.
[00:23:31]  And it's not a coincidence that a lot of the people I just mentioned. Hate the Jews.
[00:23:36]  They can call it anti Zionism all they want, but they hate the Jews.
[00:23:40]  You know, I always tell you this.
[00:23:41]  I'm sure you're tired of hearing it.
[00:23:43]  But Jew hatred is the devil's flagpole.
[00:23:45]  It always tells you where the evil is because it's really directed at the number one Jew, the Jew who spoke to Moses from the burning bush and was incarnate in Jesus Christ.
[00:23:56]  It is always, he is always the target of it.
[00:23:59]  And if you go on the Substack I do with my son, the New Jerusalem, you can look up my essay.
[00:24:06]  The devil's flagpole, or it's called anti Semitism is the devil's flagpole, and I will explain all that.
[00:24:11]  But the reason that I say defending individual freedom, your freedom, is a mission from God is because it is the will of God that individuals should be free.
[00:24:23]  That's what this show is about.
[00:24:25]  That's what all expertise, all conservative expertise, should be about.
[00:24:30]  Instead, it's been derailed by the interests of people their desire to be famous, their desire to get clicks, their desire not to lose audience.
[00:24:38]  fear of becoming unpopular, unhip, or irrelevant, all of which I start with so I have nothing to lose.
[00:24:44]  But these are the things that we should be looking for.
[00:24:47]  And I have to tell you, it is dispiriting to see our intellectual classes become so corrupt and such showboats that they no longer have their eye on the prize, which is the ultimate prize.
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[00:26:24]  So I want to put this in context of what's happening right now.
[00:26:27]  So I don't make predictions very much because the future is not ours to see.
[00:26:32]  But here's a contingent prediction if then.
[00:26:36]  If Trump's blockade of the Strait of Hormuz works, okay, so obviously you know that Trump, the Iranians said, you know, you've bombed us, so now we're going to block the Strait of Hormuz, which is a very, very narrow strait where a lot of their oil comes out.
[00:26:51]  So Trump said, guess what?
[00:26:53]  I'm blocking the Strait of War moves after the talks broke down and he sent our navy in to plug the gap.
[00:26:59]  They're not in the Strait, they're just outside of it and they're making sure and it's working.
[00:27:04]  They're keeping the oil from flowing.
[00:27:06]  Now, this could work.
[00:27:07]  It's a bold and strategic move.
[00:27:10]  It's cutting off the oil supply, 90% of which goes to China.
[00:27:16]  I think it's 10% of China's oil, but 90% of the oil goes to China and it's starving out the Iranian regime.
[00:27:22]  This is where all their money comes from.
[00:27:24]  And it also means That they're going to have oil that they have nowhere to put it, they won't be able to put it anywhere.
[00:27:29]  They're going to have to shut down their wells.
[00:27:31]  And it is causing the Saudis and others to find new ways to get their oil out.
[00:27:36]  They have a pipeline to the cross land, you know, over land or under land that goes to the Red Sea, and there are other sea routes out of that.
[00:27:45]  And it's causing a lot of countries to get their oil from us, which is great.
[00:27:49]  That's money in our pocket.
[00:27:51]  And as Trump said, we got plenty of oil because he has been drilling away.
[00:27:56]  And we don't have as many refineries as we have, but we have the oil.
[00:28:00]  And so we're selling the oil.
[00:28:01]  And you can see it on those satellite maps where the ships are coming to the Gulf of America.
[00:28:06]  Now, this is also dangerous, right?
[00:28:08]  It's dangerous.
[00:28:09]  Our ships are in danger.
[00:28:12]  It could be attacked, as we pray in my church every Sunday God protect our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines.
[00:28:19]  But the Gulf nations are turning against this bully.
[00:28:22]  You know, Lebanon is starting to negotiate with Israel outside of Hezbollah, right?
[00:28:27]  Hezbollah is an Iranian plant inside Lebanon, and they're sick of having the Israelis fight back and fire missiles into Lebanon.
[00:28:38]  And so now they're talking outside of this.
[00:28:40]  There is a chance of getting rid of these dirtbags and these people who bring so much violence who are Hezbollah, who are Hamas, who are the people that, when Tucker Carlson and the left go boo hoo the poor people in Gaza.
[00:28:55]  These are the people that we're fighting.
[00:28:56]  It's Iran.
[00:28:57]  It was Iran who was enslaving those people and unleashing violence against Israel, causing Israel to fight back with the toughness it does because Israel is the size of a hairpin and has to fight to stay alive.
[00:29:11]  So all of this stuff is happening and it could work.
[00:29:15]  It could bring the Iranians back to the table, it could get them to give over their nuclear materials.
[00:29:21]  Here's my prediction.
[00:29:22]  If it does work, you are going to start to see news stories explaining why victory is actually defeat.
[00:29:30]  You're going to.
[00:29:31]  You know, there was one in the paper when I was just before I started writing this.
[00:29:35]  I was actually talking about this to my wife.
[00:29:38]  I was saying, boy, the minute if this actually works, we're going to start to see things like this.
[00:29:41]  And suddenly I saw an op-ed from David Petraeus, formerly the general who ran the surge in Iraq.
[00:29:50]  And now he's with a defense investment firm.
[00:29:52]  And the headline is American success against Iran.
[00:29:55]  may prove a distraction.
[00:29:58]  This is it.
[00:30:00]  So why?
[00:30:01]  Why am I making this prediction?
[00:30:02]  Well, obviously, it's because there is a hostility toward America in our expert class and our leftist expert class and now in our, I don't know what to call them, the Groeper expert class that is represented so entirely by Candace and Tucker.
[00:30:21]  Why?
[00:30:21]  You know, why do they hate?
[00:30:23]  So, here from Knucklehead Row at the New York Times, that's what I call the op ed page or the opinion page in the New York Times.
[00:30:28]  I call it Knucklehead Row because, with the exception of Ross Douthat and maybe Brett Stevens, sometimes the people who write for them are knuckleheads.
[00:30:39]  And if you just read the headlines, it's almost hilarious.
[00:30:42]  I read it so you don't have to, but if you ever want to take a look at it, just the headlines are funny.
[00:30:46]  Here is one of the chief knuckleheads, Thomas Friedman.
[00:30:50]  He's a Middle East expert, supposedly.
[00:30:52]  He's a Absolute knucklehead.
[00:30:54]  And he puts it just bluntly as cut one.
[00:30:56]  I really want to see Iran defeated militarily because this regime is a terrible regime for its people in the region.
[00:31:04]  And nothing would improve the region more than the replacement of this regime with a regime in Iran that was focused on enabling its people to realize their full potential and integrating peacefully with other countries and stop occupying Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen.
[00:31:21]  So I'm all for that.
[00:31:23]  The problem is, I really don't want to see Bibi Netanyahu or Donald Trump politically strengthened by this war because they are two awful human beings.
[00:31:31]  They're both engaged in anti democratic projects in their own countries.
[00:31:35]  They're both alleged crooks.
[00:31:37]  They are terrible, terrible people doing terrible things to America standing in the world and Israel standing in the world.
[00:31:43]  And so I really find myself torn.
[00:31:45]  I want to see Iran militarily defeated, but I do not want to see these two terrible people strengthened.
[00:31:52]  I like the way Bibi Netanyahu has.
[00:31:54]  Damaged Israel standing in the world.
[00:31:56]  Israel is standing in the world.
[00:31:58]  It exists in the world because of BB Netanyahu to some degree.
[00:32:01]  And to some degree, that's true of Trump's freedom.
[00:32:03]  And they hate Trump that much that they don't want to see Iran put down like the dog it is.
[00:32:10]  And, you know, why do they hate Trump?
[00:32:12]  Because for all his human flaws, and I've never been shy of talking about them, you know, I get a little tired of saying it sometimes, but he does things that go right up my spine at times.
[00:32:22]  And I've said that those are actually the bad side of his good traits that make him so blustery and uh boorish in some ways that he can't be stopped by the people who've been shutting right-wing politicians down and shutting them up for 50 years.
[00:32:37]  He instinctively believes in the founding principles.
[00:32:42]  You know, whatever his flaws, he instinctively believes.
[00:32:44]  Whereas Thomas Friedman once said that he wished the?
[00:32:47]  U.s would become China for a day, so it could be fixed without those damn people getting in the way right, he wanted it to be authoritative authoritarian, so those experts could get in there and do what experts do, which is make everything great while they're enslaving The people, which is exactly what Woodrow Wilson believed in and was going to save us from the nasty Constitution, which keeps them from doing that.
[00:33:11]  For some reason, the founders didn't want the experts running the country.
[00:33:15]  And if Trump's reelection victory was a victory for new media, which I believe it was from the moment it happened, the coverage of this war has essentially been the empire of lies strikes back.
[00:33:28]  This constant drumbeat of defeatism is appalling and it is meant to be defeatism.
[00:33:33]  It is meant to read this, to make you read this war.
[00:33:36]  As a defeat.
[00:33:37]  Now, listen, there's nothing wrong with writing about the risks of war.
[00:33:40]  War is terrible and it can go terribly wrong.
[00:33:43]  You know, I'm so Afraid that our Navy will be attacked.
[00:33:50]  I know we're incredibly powerful.
[00:33:52]  I know they're great fighters, but I also know that bad things can happen.
[00:33:55]  And yes, it is also true that some commentators, especially some powerful Jewish commentators who have a heart for Israel, and there's nothing wrong with Jewish Americans having a heart for Israel.
[00:34:07]  All Americans have a heart for other things.
[00:34:09]  Catholic Americans have a heart for Rome.
[00:34:12]  There's nothing wrong with that.
[00:34:13]  That's part of the American system that we're allowed both to have our identities and our American.
[00:34:17]  Identity at the same time.
[00:34:19]  That is part of our system.
[00:34:20]  But sometimes, you know, some of the Jewish commentators have been reacting too harshly to honest concerns.
[00:34:27]  There's nothing wrong with kicking Tucker Carlson down the street because he's full of it and everything he says is a distortion.
[00:34:33]  But there are people who say, you know, maybe we should pull back, maybe we should do this, and they don't need to be called names.
[00:34:38]  It's just ridiculous.
[00:34:39]  And also, they can be too happy about what's going on.
[00:34:41]  This is not a cakewalk.
[00:34:42]  You know, it's not just going great.
[00:34:44]  Everything's going great.
[00:34:45]  It's amazing.
[00:34:45]  It's an amazing victory so far, but it is a worthy but high risk enterprise.
[00:34:50]  For which American interests have to come first for Americans.
[00:34:53]  But all that said, listen to this from the New York Times, a former newspaper.
[00:34:57]  This was the lead story online, at least on Thursday.
[00:35:00]  I'm not getting the paper version.
[00:35:03]  In Mr. Trump's telling, this is the lead story, U.S. victory in Iran is already clear.
[00:35:08]  In the Fox Business interview, reprising his frequent comments of the last two weeks, Mr. Trump asserted that Iran's Navy, Air Force, and anti aircraft equipment had all been wiped out, along with many top officials.
[00:35:19]  If Iran did not rule out nuclear weapons, Mr. Trump said, We will be living With them for a little while, but I don't know how much longer they can survive.
[00:35:27]  In fact, analysts say, and you have to trust analysts, right?
[00:35:32]  Look, they have such honest faces.
[00:35:33]  In fact, analysts say the 40 days of U.S. Israeli bombardment that ended with last week's ceasefire appear to have increased the power of the Iranian military and hardliners in the Iranian system.
[00:35:45]  Are you kidding me?
[00:35:46]  Are you kidding me?
[00:35:48]  These people, like, just count the number of missiles they're firing.
[00:35:51]  Despite, he goes on, despite the widespread destruction and the killings of officials by the U.S. and Israeli militaries, The Iranian regime is acting emboldened, having demonstrated they can wreak havoc in global trade and send U.S. gas prices soaring.

=== Living With Nuclear Iran (03:30) ===

[00:36:05]  Now, by the way, U.S. gas prices have gone up a lot, but Trump brought them all the way down first.
[00:36:10]  They're only up to where they were under Biden.
[00:36:13]  This is just, it's defeatism with a purpose.
[00:36:16]  It is wishful defeatism.
[00:36:18]  It is wanting America to lose and wanting this to go badly because they hate Trump so much and they hate him because he broke the system with his rudeness and his boorishness and his belligerence.
[00:36:28]  He broke this system where you couldn't say, guess what?
[00:36:32]  Our freedom comes from God.
[00:36:34]  Your power comes from us.
[00:36:36]  That is not the way they want it.
[00:36:38]  That is not the way any of the people who support Sharia law want it.
[00:36:42]  That is not the way any of the people who think that Sharia law can coexist with the American system or who think that the deep state is a good thing instead of a slightly necessary thing that needs to be pulled back.
[00:36:54]  All the people who fought Elon Musk because he wasn't doing it right, because they didn't want it done at all, all of those people are against the American founding.
[00:37:03]  And this is This kind of reporting is a continuation of the reporting of the Russian hoax and the George Floyd death and the COVID bullying and the support for governor and tyranny.
[00:37:15]  The motivation is the opposition to our founding and the founding principles that Justice Thomas was talking about, which, no matter what the Catholic integralists say, those founding principles of individual freedom are the most Christian thing about this country.
[00:37:31]  Christ freed us for freedom, and the Constitution is the best device for preserving freedom that has ever been. ever been made.
[00:37:41]  You know, people can remember a lot of things.
[00:37:43]  You've got 12 different passwords you somehow keep track of.
[00:37:46]  Your kids' school and sports schedules look like a full-time logistics operation.
[00:37:51]  The grocery list never stops growing, but you know what you got to get.
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=== The Democrat Party is Gone (09:02) ===

[00:39:36]  You know, Viktor Orban, the Prime Minister of Hungary, lost an election by a landslide, and this proves two things.
[00:39:43]  He was another tyrant, just like Trump, but tyrants don't get unelected.
[00:39:47]  Tyrants don't lose elections.
[00:39:48]  So he was not a tyrant.
[00:39:49]  So they were lying about him, just like they lied about Trump.
[00:39:53]  But the other people who got him wrong, I think, were the guys on the right.
[00:39:58]  You know, my mad Hungarian friend Sebastian Gorka says that all post Soviet leaders are corrupt, and that's true because of the collection of Money in one place and power in one place, and so that corruption is endemic.
[00:40:10]  But Orban's government was corrupt and he cozied up to Putin, and most importantly, he couldn't make the economy work.
[00:40:17]  And I don't know about this new guy who won Peter Magyar, the guy who defeated him.
[00:40:22]  He's supposed to be conservative, but if he continues to keep the migrants out, that's the thing that Orban did that was most important, then the country will be fine.
[00:40:29]  But it's a reminder to us that it's not enough to be right in your philosophy and it's not enough to say the right things.
[00:40:35]  You have to do the right things, and cozying up to Putin is not a conservative thing to do.
[00:40:40]  It is a Fascist, corrupt thing to do.
[00:40:42]  But you also have to make stuff work.
[00:40:45]  It's unfair.
[00:40:46]  It's unkind.
[00:40:47]  It seems quotidian and meaningless, but you got to do it.
[00:40:51]  And my deepest fears about the Iran war going on too long have to do with all the stuff that the left is pushing the gas prices, the danger of recession.
[00:41:00]  I gassed up this week and it cost me 50 bucks for a tank of gas.
[00:41:04]  If we lose here, if we lose an election here, it is no small thing anymore because we are not dealing with the Democrat Party as it used to be.
[00:41:13]  Some examples Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, had to cancel an appearance at a TPUSA event because her life was threatened and her kids only have one parent left.
[00:41:23]  And part of that is maybe Candace's fault for coming up with all these baloney conspiracy ideas about her.
[00:41:29]  But the idea that violence is all right remember, when a leftist allegedly, a leftist trans supporter allegedly murdered Charlie Kirk.
[00:41:42]  A lot of leftists came out and said, well, he deserved it because he said things we didn't like.
[00:41:48]  About 40% of college undergrads say that violence in response to language is okay, and about 90% say words can be violence.
[00:41:59]  Those are people, I guess, who have never been punched in the face because I want to tell you words are not violence.
[00:42:03]  I don't care what words they are, they're not violence.
[00:42:05]  Now we have this other guy, Hassan Piker, and this coming together of leftists, groypers, and Islam.
[00:42:13]  Is a phenomenon that we're seeing that is going to remember I said this, right?
[00:42:17]  Because this is tomorrow's, it is today.
[00:42:18]  This is a phenomenon we're going to continue to see because they're realizing that Islam is saying a lot of the same things that they're saying hate the Jews, hate freedom, hate women, you know, hate basically the individual and hate Jesus Christ.
[00:42:32]  So Hassan Piker is now a left wing commentator and influencer and a Muslim.
[00:42:38]  And the New York Times describes him this anti establishment rebel, which, if you're a reader of the New York Times, is always a good thing.
[00:42:45]  This anti establishment rebel who has a professed love for things like streetwear, anti imperialist politics, marathon streaming sessions.
[00:42:54]  He's now at the center of white hot debate among some in the Democratic Party during his professional turn on the stump.
[00:43:00]  In recent months, Mr. Piker's stream has featured a number of prominent Democrat politicians, including Mayor Zorhan Mamdani of New York, Representative Rokhana, Democrat of California, and Sykat Chakrabarti, a progressive candidate running to fill Representative Nancy Pelosi's seat.
[00:43:17]  This is what my.
[00:43:19]  Hasan Piker has said about capitalists.
[00:43:22]  This is Cup Three.
[00:43:23]  Hurt poor people that they can afford housing in Berkeley?
[00:43:27]  I don't know how that works.
[00:43:28]  Well, my understanding is that the property owners who have properties there choose just not to rent it at all.
[00:43:33]  Yeah, kill them.
[00:43:34]  Kill those.
[00:43:36]  Murder those in the street.
[00:43:39]  Let the streets soak in their red capitalist bloods, dude.
[00:43:43]  Okay, so now later he said, oh, well, that was just hyperbole.
[00:43:46]  He was kidding around.
[00:43:46]  He doesn't look like he's kidding around, I gotta say.
[00:43:48]  But okay, he says he's kidding around.
[00:43:50]  Here's what he said first about Congressman Dan Crenshaw and then about America itself at Cut Four.
[00:43:57]  This guy has the understanding of foreign policy of like a 12 year old.
[00:44:03]  What the f is wrong with this dude?
[00:44:04]  Didn't he go to war and like literally lose his eye because some mujahideen, a brave f soldier, Fucked his eye hole with their d.
[00:44:12]  Isn't that how he lost his dumb ass eye?
[00:44:14]  Because he got his fucking eye hole fed?
[00:44:16]  America deserved 9 11, dude.
[00:44:18]  Fuck it.
[00:44:18]  I'm saying.
[00:44:19]  He later said that was inappropriate.
[00:44:21]  I don't think he said it was morally abhorrent, but he said it was inappropriate that he said that.
[00:44:26]  But this is who the left is admiring.
[00:44:28]  This is who the left is admiring.
[00:44:29]  The guy who allegedly tried to set Sam Altman's house on fire, the OpenAI CEO, he had the names of other big tech guys, and he told an online chat that we have to Luigi these guys, meaning the insurance.
[00:44:42]  CEO Luigi Mangione, who was assassinated while the left rejoiced.
[00:44:46]  This is a way of self expression as far as they're concerned.
[00:44:49]  And it's not just the rank and file.
[00:44:51]  It's not just the base, as we say.
[00:44:53]  There's a story by our own Eminem Olihan, Mary Margaret Olihan, in the Daily Wire.
[00:44:59]  She says in an explosive report released on Tuesday, the Trump administration revealed the lengths to which the Justice Department went under President Joe Biden's watch to target religious Americans who opposed abortion.
[00:45:10]  At the center of the Biden administration's efforts is the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrance Act, the FACE Act.
[00:45:16]  A law meant to protect access to pro abortion and pro life facilities alike.
[00:45:20]  The Biden administration infamously used the FACE Act to prosecute and imprison peaceful pro life protesters.
[00:45:26]  They also, by the way, asked for much harsher sentences for people who were outside abortion clinics than for people who were outside those people who are trying to help women who are in trouble and give birth and take care of their babies.
[00:45:44]  The administration kept in touch with the anti abortion.
[00:45:47]  People and the anti abortion people fed them.
[00:45:50]  I'm sorry, with the pro abortion people, the Biden administration kept in touch with the pro abortion people who fed them names of anti abortion people for them to go after.
[00:46:02]  I'm sure you all remember Mark Houck, who had a raid of armed gunmen at his house, who arrested him in front of his children for an incident that had taken place months before and basically was a shoving match.
[00:46:18]  It wasn't a one sided thing.
[00:46:20]  Accused him of violence.
[00:46:21]  He was just rewarded a million dollars or over a million dollars in a lawsuit.
[00:46:28]  These people on the left are violent.
[00:46:30]  They are thugs.
[00:46:32]  I'm talking about the mainstream Democrat Party now.
[00:46:34]  I'm not talking, you know, I heard a guy, I think I mentioned this, I heard a guy on TV say, well, I'm a JFK liberal.
[00:46:41]  I'm a JFK liberal.
[00:46:42]  That's why I'm a conservative.
[00:46:43]  This is ridiculous.
[00:46:44]  This is not the Democrat Party anymore.
[00:46:46]  This is a radical left party governed and empowered by the radical left.
[00:46:51]  There's nothing radical about this.
[00:46:52]  People Who supports Donald Trump?
[00:46:54]  Donald Trump is a mainstream guy.
[00:46:56]  The things that he believes in have been part of America forever.
[00:47:01]  He is an outsider as a human being.
[00:47:03]  His affect is wild, but the things he is actually doing are typical JFK Democrat policies.
[00:47:13]  They have to protect, in order to protect their failed policies, their failed philosophies, they demonize the opposition so they don't have to debate them.
[00:47:21]  And now they believe that demonization and think they have the right to kill anyone or oppress anyone who disagrees with them.
[00:47:27]  We know this.
[00:47:28]  We know the shouting and the violence, the way everyone from me to Ben to Knowles have been rioted at when we went and talked on universities.
[00:47:37]  I mean, it's an amazing thing that Ben is now kind of mainstream.
[00:47:42]  He's kind of a mainstream guy.
[00:47:44]  But before that, I mean, he was facing massive, massive violence.
[00:47:48]  You know, we have to stop them.
[00:47:51]  We're going to have to stop them by democratic means because once power is achieved through violence, you will never get back the Constitution.
[00:48:01]  I don't care who wins.
[00:48:02]  Once violence is the way you seize power, the Constitution is through.
[00:48:06]  And no one is going to take charge of the country by violence and then restore our constitutional guarantees.
[00:48:11]  That's not how things work.
[00:48:12]  So we have to win elections, which means we have to get gas prices down.
[00:48:16]  We have to make sure our Military is as safe as it can be, that none of our ships get sunk.
[00:48:21]  It stinks that we are constrained because of our corrupt press in this kind of limits on our actions.
[00:48:31]  But I'm telling you that we have to make sure this ends quickly.
[00:48:34]  Trump knows it.
[00:48:35]  It's important that we keep the left out of power.

=== Violence Ends Constitutional Guarantees (15:02) ===

[00:48:38]  It really is.
[00:48:39]  Freedom is incredibly rare.
[00:48:41]  This individual freedom that we have here that has reached its peak in the last century is very rare.
[00:48:46]  It's very fragile.
[00:48:47]  It doesn't come back once it's gone.
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[00:50:45]  Final chapter, fallible.
[00:50:47]  So I want to end by talking about this brouhaha over the Pope.
[00:50:52]  And I want to repeat that I'm an Anglican Catholic.
[00:50:55]  I share a great deal of theology with Catholics.
[00:50:58]  Almost all of my closest friends are Catholic.
[00:51:04]  But I am not a Roman Catholic.
[00:51:06]  And I believe the Pope, whether he is, you know, the Pope is only infallible when he's talking doctrine.
[00:51:12]  It's called ex cathedra.
[00:51:13]  It means out of the big chair, basically.
[00:51:16]  Infallible.
[00:51:17]  A lot of Catholics who don't know that much about the church think he's infallible every time he opens his mouth.
[00:51:22]  But I don't believe anybody is infallible.
[00:51:25]  I am not a Roman Catholic, and I do not believe any human being is infallible.
[00:51:28]  I believe that God could come to life, stand beside a man, and whisper in his ear, and it would be like playing Chinese telephone.
[00:51:36]  Our sin would not get it right.
[00:51:40]  Our sin would morph what he said and get it wrong.
[00:51:43]  Possibly, possibly.
[00:51:44]  I believe everybody is capable of error at all times, okay, including.
[00:51:49]  Including me.
[00:51:50]  I don't make errors, but I'm capable of error.
[00:51:52]  Even Shakespeare, I think, must have been wrong sometimes, though I've never seen an example of it.
[00:51:57]  All right.
[00:51:58]  So this pope has been going up against Trump, and suddenly the press loves him.
[00:52:02]  Suddenly the press is Catholic.
[00:52:03]  I mean, the press does not care about Pope Leo one little bit.
[00:52:06]  You know, I'm sure you know this, but the press suddenly is oh boy, what a wonderful pope.
[00:52:11]  How holy is he in the halls of journalism because he is attacking Donald Trump fairly fiercely and attacking the war in Iran.
[00:52:20]  The things he is saying, as I have said before, are simply untrue.
[00:52:25]  They are just untrue.
[00:52:26]  And people keep talking about just war doctrine.
[00:52:28]  I don't care about just war doctrine either.
[00:52:30]  If what he's saying is untrue, it's just an example.
[00:52:33]  This is an example through a translator, but this is what he said.
[00:52:36]  It's cut seven.
[00:52:37]  Fratelli, sorelli.
[00:52:39]  Brothers and sisters, this is our God, Jesus, King of Peace, who rejects war, whom no one can use to justify war.
[00:52:49]  He does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war, but rejects them, saying, Even though you make many prayers, I will not listen.
[00:52:58]  Your hands are full of blood.
[00:52:59]  Now, again, just untrue in the Bible, right?
[00:53:03]  Again and again, but one particular case, Joshua prays in a battle with the Amorites, he prays that the sun will stand still so that the battle can last.
[00:53:15]  And the moon stands still, I guess they're up at the same time.
[00:53:18]  And the sun stood still, says the Bible, and the moon stopped.
[00:53:22]  Now, whether or not that is descriptive language or metaphorical language, he prayed, he got what he prayed for.
[00:53:29]  That's in the Bible, and it's again and again.
[00:53:31]  Moses waged war.
[00:53:33]  Samson, the Israelites had to wage a lot of war.
[00:53:37]  So in answer to the Pope, Trump put out this stupid picture of himself as Jesus, and to his credit, he took it down with what for him was almost an apology.
[00:53:47]  I was stunned that he almost apologized.
[00:53:49]  But I have to play the reaction from the view.
[00:53:52]  Just because it's my favorite clip of the week.
[00:53:55]  Jesus himself did not run around saying, I'm the Messiah.
[00:53:57]  I'm the Messiah.
[00:53:59]  This guy, you're supposed to have a little bit of here.
[00:54:01]  That's exactly what Jesus said.
[00:54:03]  I am the Messiah.
[00:54:04]  You know what?
[00:54:05]  Mommy did not.
[00:54:06]  It's just what's wrong with her.
[00:54:09]  The Pope's got him.
[00:54:10]  He's got God in mind.
[00:54:12]  She just said, I knew Jesus.
[00:54:15]  Jesus was not narcissistic like this guy.
[00:54:20]  Why is the show on the air?
[00:54:21]  I mean, are they.
[00:54:23]  They're trying to make us stupid.
[00:54:24]  I think that's what it is.
[00:54:25]  They're trying to make us.
[00:54:26]  The stupidity burns.
[00:54:27]  It's like, it's just awful.
[00:54:29]  But anyway, JD Vance gave an appropriate response, and he's obviously a convert to Catholicism.
[00:54:35]  And here's what Vance said about it cut nine.
[00:54:37]  Number one, when the Pope says that God is never on the side of those who wield the sword, there is a thousand year, more than a thousand year tradition of just war theory.
[00:54:50]  Okay?
[00:54:51]  Now, we can, of course, have disagreements about whether this or that conflict is just.
[00:54:55]  But I think that it's important, in the same way that it's important for the Vice President of the United States to be careful when I talk about matters of public policy, I think it's very, very important for the Pope to be careful when he talks about matters of theology.
[00:55:08]  And I think that one of these issues here is that there has been, again, hey, random dude screaming, I told you I'd respond to your point.
[00:55:16]  I just want to respond to this question first.
[00:55:18]  But I think one of the issues here is that if you're going to opine on matters of theology, you've got to be careful, you've got to make sure it's Anchored in the truth, and that's one of the things that I try to do, and it's certainly something I would expect from the clergy, whether they're Catholic or Protestant.
[00:55:33]  So, absolutely, of course, this is right.
[00:55:36]  And also, I mean, there's the fact that the Pope didn't say a word when the Iranians murdered tens of thousands of their own people.
[00:55:46]  He's trying to, he's doing a Muslim friendship tour, you know, which is questionable in some ways.
[00:55:53]  I mean, I preferred Benedict XVI, but okay, you know, I mean, look, I lived through two of the greatest popes.
[00:55:58]  literally in history.
[00:55:59]  I mean, two of the greatest books who ever lived, John Paul II and Benedict XVI, you know, these John Paul is now a saint, but two of them were absolutely amazing.
[00:56:09]  And this is a falling off.
[00:56:11]  But I want to talk about the way we talk about religion because, you know, part of individual freedom is religious freedom.
[00:56:19]  And while we owe religious people, we should respect religious people because that's a kind thing to do, we don't owe any religion fidelity unless it is what we personally believe.
[00:56:31]  Jesus said, render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's, meaning government.
[00:56:36]  What he was saying, Christianity is not a governing philosophy.
[00:56:40]  Love your neighbor is not a foreign policy.
[00:56:42]  Turn the other cheek is not what the Department of War should have up on their walls.
[00:56:49]  These are things that shape, these are ways of looking at the world as God sees the world.
[00:56:54]  And they should shape our hearts so that we do things as justly and as peacefully as they can possibly be done.
[00:57:02]  Look, I have never become a Roman Catholic because there are certain things I don't agree with in the Catholic Church, certain fairly important doctrines.
[00:57:10]  And I never want to be in the position where I have to practice casuistry, which is the making of specious arguments, the making of false arguments.
[00:57:18]  You know, it's where somebody says something like this Pope has said that isn't true, and Catholics, in order to be pious, have to find some reason to make it sound like what he meant was kind of true.
[00:57:29]  I never want to do that.
[00:57:30]  If somebody says something that's not true, I want to be able to say, yeah, I don't agree with that.
[00:57:33]  And that is an important part of the conversation in America.
[00:57:36]  And, you know, America is a creation of Enlightenment Protestantism, but Protestantism is a product of Catholicism.
[00:57:44]  You know, it's Catholic Christianity that established the sacredness of the individual, and it's individuals who said, well, if we're sacred, we don't have to listen to the priest and the Pope, and they rejected Catholicism.
[00:57:56]  It's my belief that God will one day reconcile the irreconcilable and bring the churches together.
[00:58:03]  This is my personal faith, and that he is using the breakup of the churches, the opposition of the churches, to write on our souls the fact that somehow individual freedom and spiritual authority can exist together.
[00:58:17]  It doesn't make any sense in our minds, but somehow with God all things are possible, and I think this thing is possible.
[00:58:23]  It takes a long time, centuries, as we know from the Bible.
[00:58:26]  For God to write his dictums on our hearts.
[00:58:28]  But he does do it and he will do it.
[00:58:31]  And I believe in that day the scattered churches will be one again and maybe even include the synagogues because, as St. Paul told us, all of Israel will be saved.
[00:58:41]  So now, though, we serve God, I think, by arguing among ourselves and debating things and not by screaming, oh, you're a heretic, and not by screaming, shut it down.
[00:58:53]  That's what a lot of Muslims do.
[00:58:56]  There should be no laws against dissing the Pope or disagreeing with the Pope.
[00:59:00]  Obviously, we should talk to each other with love and respect because that's the right way to talk to one another.
[00:59:05]  That shouldn't be a hard thing.
[00:59:06]  That's why I'm always picking on Trump.
[00:59:07]  We should be able to say exactly what we mean without cursing people, without getting into this X language where people online just call each other the most horrific names because the person isn't sitting in front of them and they can't see their face fall when their feelings are hurt.
[00:59:23]  Even when we passionately disagree about ideas and principles that are very basic and important, we can do it without hating on each other.
[00:59:35]  We can.
[00:59:37]  There's nothing we can accomplish without hating one another.
[00:59:39]  We can accomplish everything we need to accomplish without hating one another.
[00:59:43]  The people who come online and say, Oh, I disagreed with what Ben said or what Clavin said.
[00:59:48]  I disagree.
[00:59:48]  I'm out.
[00:59:49]  I'm out.
[00:59:49]  Well, he said this one time, so I cancel my subscription.
[00:59:53]  Those are the people who are not going to take this trip to reconciliation.
[00:59:57]  There is a trip.
[00:59:58]  I truly believe this.
[00:59:59]  There is a trip to reconciliation.
[01:00:01]  It's not going to happen in my lifetime.
[01:00:02]  It may not happen in your lifetime.
[01:00:04]  It's going to take a long time for God to inscribe this on our hearts.
[01:00:07]  But the way we make it there is by talking to one another and arguing with one another.
[01:00:11]  And from where I sit, when the Pope says something that is untrue, I'm just going to say the Pope said something that's untrue.
[01:00:20]  I don't agree with him.
[01:00:21]  I think he's wrong.
[01:00:23]  With the last Pope, I questioned his whole entire philosophy, his Peronist philosophy.
[01:00:29]  I thought it was bad.
[01:00:30]  With this guy, I haven't taken his measure yet, but it just seems to me he's saying things that just don't apply to the facts.
[01:00:36]  We have to be honest with one another.
[01:00:38]  But as Paul Simon said, a little tenderness with our honesty would go a long, long way.
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[01:01:38]  Dumb and dumber.
[01:01:40]  From Austin.
[01:01:42]  By the way, it's Clavin Clapax at dailywire.com.
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[01:02:00]  From Austin, you often quote Jesus saying, Judge not, lest you be judged, and apply his teachings to things like doctrinal and moral differences.
[01:02:07]  You quoted it again in your recent monologue prior to joking that Tucker Carlson was possessed by a demon.
[01:02:12]  I don't pearl clutch about jokes and thought it was funny, but it highlighted an apparent contradiction that's been bothering me about your treatment of Tucker.
[01:02:19]  We have differing opinions of him, which is no trouble to me, but how do you square your blanket application of not judging with your harsh judgment of people like Tucker?
[01:02:26]  You know, Austin, I frequently say to myself, Jesus was not an idiot.
[01:02:32]  What I mean by that is when he says something that doesn't seem to make immediate sense, he must have meant something that does make sense.
[01:02:39]  I am not Jesus, as some of you may have noticed, but I am also not an idiot.
[01:02:46]  And when I say judge not lest you be judged, quoting Jesus, what I mean by that is not that you can't make moral judgments.
[01:02:52]  Of course you have to make value judgments.
[01:02:54]  Murder is bad.
[01:02:55]  Punching somebody is bad.
[01:02:57]  Abortion is bad.
[01:02:58]  These are things that we all know and we say them.
[01:03:00]  Lying is bad.
[01:03:01]  What I mean by that, and what I believe Jesus meant by that, is you have no business judging the state of another person's soul.
[01:03:09]  Only God can do that.
[01:03:10]  He doesn't ask your opinion, He doesn't have your vote.
[01:03:13]  You do not know who you're going to meet in heaven, so you should treat people as if you're going to live with them in eternity.
[01:03:18]  You simply don't know the state of another person's soul.
[01:03:21]  Sometimes you can make a good guess, I think, but you shouldn't.
[01:03:24]  You pay attention to where your soul is going in your sin, not the other person's sin.
[01:03:28]  Let's talk about Tucker.
[01:03:30]  What my problem with Tucker is that the things he says are untrue and manipulative.
[01:03:34]  So, Just the other day, he put out, the people in charge don't, and I want to ask you about this, Austin.

=== Judging Another Person's Soul (04:23) ===

[01:03:40]  I mean, I would love it if you wrote back and told me this.
[01:03:43]  The people in charge don't want you to know this, but Muslims love Jesus.
[01:03:48]  Islam reveres him as a major prophet and messenger of the Lord, believes he performed miracles, and states that he will return to earth to defeat the Antichrist.
[01:03:55]  Now, Muslims love Jesus, first of all, they do revere him as a prophet.
[01:04:01]  They think honoring him as the son of God is repellent.
[01:04:05]  And there are a lot of dead Christians in Muslim hands.
[01:04:11]  And dead for religious reasons, not for strategic military reasons, but dead because they're a Christian.
[01:04:19]  And if you want to be a Christian in the Middle East, you better be living in Israel because that's the best place you can do it.
[01:04:25]  So Tucker starts out this obviously misleading statement.
[01:04:30]  He's using the truth, but he always distorts things by saying the people in charge don't want you to know this.
[01:04:36]  Which people in charge are not selling you the fact that we should all be pals?
[01:04:40]  With not just Muslim people, which I agree with, I'm fine with Muslim people, but with Islam, which is a philosophy that is, I think, antithetical to Western civilization.
[01:04:51]  Why is he saying that the people in charge don't want you to know this?
[01:04:54]  Because he's manipulating you.
[01:04:55]  He's manipulating you to think, well, if the people in charge don't want me to know this, by golly, it must be true.
[01:05:02]  Listen to him.
[01:05:02]  Just go back and listen to him.
[01:05:04]  Everything he says is like that.
[01:05:05]  Everything he says is a distortion of the truth peppered with phrases to make you think that somehow you are getting in on the man by believing this thing that is essentially untrue.
[01:05:16]  He's got, you know, oh, you're anti-Semitic if you say anything.
[01:05:21]  If all you say is that the Jews are bad, you're anti-Semitic.
[01:05:23]  Well, yes, you are.
[01:05:24]  Or using the phrase Zionist.
[01:05:27]  You know, I support the state of Israel.
[01:05:30]  I also support the state of Japan.
[01:05:31]  No one ever called me a Japanist.
[01:05:33]  You know, I don't think invading, I don't think attacking, killing, and raping the people in a country is a good thing.
[01:05:38]  I think it's a bad thing.
[01:05:40]  And I think that's true of Israel.
[01:05:42]  I think it's true of Japan.
[01:05:43]  But somehow I'm a Zionist for believing in Israel.
[01:05:46]  So, you know, that's all I can tell you is if you listen to him more carefully, I think you'll change your mind.
[01:05:51]  And certainly, I think you should pass value judgments on what people are doing.
[01:05:54]  You have to.
[01:05:56]  From Mario, he says Dear Gandalf, I'm a staunch conservative.
[01:05:59]  I voted for Trump in three elections.
[01:06:01]  I support the border security of the Trump.
[01:06:03]  Administration, but can we not come to an agreement that people who have not run afoul of the law, who work hard and who have been here for 10 plus years, could become citizens after paying a monetary penalty for entering the country illegally?
[01:06:15]  I would be interested in your opinion as I regard you as one who is most sagacious.
[01:06:19]  You know, I sort of have the suspicion that there are some people who should be given at least a pathway to citizenship, maybe through military service, but the problem is you cannot trust the left.
[01:06:32]  So when Ronald Reagan said, okay, if we get increased border security, I'll give people citizenship.
[01:06:39]  Then the increased border security never came.
[01:06:42]  And that's the problem.
[01:06:43]  So right now, I think we have to make it very, very tough for illegal people to get work by using eVerify and things like that.
[01:06:50]  And I think illegals have to go back.
[01:06:52]  And if they're good people, they have to reenter.
[01:06:56]  Maybe we could have a line where they can come back because they've proved themselves or they've served in the military or whatever.
[01:07:01]  They can come back first in line.
[01:07:05]  But I haven't got a solution for this problem.
[01:07:07]  But right now, I think the left has made it so we have to make sure that illegals have got to go.
[01:07:12]  And I think I understand the cruelty of it, and we should start with the bad guys.
[01:07:16]  But we can't even get rid of the bad guys without the left rioting.
[01:07:19]  So, how are we going to get rid of the people who need to go?
[01:07:23]  All right.
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