Jarrett LeMaster, a former actor and 15-year ministry veteran, now thrives at Babylon Bee as a producer crafting sketches like "woke Jesus" mocking progressive Christianity’s climate change and intersectionality narratives. His career pivoted after Hollywood’s ideological constraints silenced views on transgender issues, LGBTQ topics, and immigration, forcing him into alternative media where he earns by critiquing mainstream culture. Despite left-wing outrage over offensive content and right-wing backlash for perceived blasphemy, he defends the platform as a vital "release valve" in today’s polarized climate, blending comedy with unfiltered commentary while expanding roles like Rick Baumgartner in Homestead’s TV adaptation. [Automatically generated summary]
Hey everyone, it's Andrew Clavin with this week's interview with Jarrett Lamaster.
And you may say, well, who is Jarrett LeMaster?
And I'm going to tell you because you do know him, but you don't know you know him.
One of the things that is most important about this moment is that there is an opening to take back the culture.
And that's why I've been doing some interviews with people who have found alternative ways to make themselves known in a cultural way.
So, you know, the other week we talked to the producers of the new film, Triumph of the Heart, and I just talked to her about how she got the film up, how she got it, you know, financed, how they got it distributed.
All of these things are now on the table because when people say to you, you know, oh, can we take back Hollywood?
My feeling is Hollywood is over.
You know, Hollywood is over.
People are going to be making movies in their garage with AI and a credit card.
And so this is the time to start talking about alternative ways.
I mean, you do not have to win the approval of the mainstream or the corporations to do great work.
So Jarrett LeMaster, you probably know him as Satan, Hitler, Stalin.
That's what his wife calls him.
But he works for Babylon B, which I always call the second funniest satirist on the internet.
They're just wonderful.
I just love them.
And here is a taste of Jared's work.
Haven't you read that in the beginning, God created the male and female and genderqueer.
Femboy.
Trans man, trans woman.
Oh, not again.
I'm never going to have enough time to finish these paintings with all of these time travelers trying to kill me.
Well, I'm going to succeed.
Before you pull the trigger, can I just ask why?
Why do all of you people want to kill me?
You guys are not destroying the world, okay?
You are saving the world.
What's up with those scare quotes?
Pretty sure I didn't use scare quotes when I said saving the world is again.
Kind of a sticking point for us, the idea that two plus two equals four is a holdover from the archaic colonial patriarchy of the 16th and 17th centuries.
We wouldn't want our little prodigy's head being filled with any kind of crazy nonsense.
That's Jarrett LeMaster.
He's an actor, writer for the Babylon B. He's been the main producer of the sketches they've been doing for the last four years.
He's also in the film Homestead, which I understand is going to become a TV show, Jared.
It's good to meet you and thank you for coming on.
Hey, thanks for having me.
This is great.
My goodness.
I can't believe it.
So tell me, we've got half an hour.
Tell me the professional story of your life.
How did you get to this place where you degrade yourself for the Babylon Bee as all those evil people?
Yeah, that's funny.
Well, I'll tell you.
So I was an actor for about five years professionally, and then I felt called into ministry.
So I sort of cut all of the acting away, went into ministry for about 15 years, did that, worked with young adults.
And then in the last four years, five years, I started getting back into this.
I actually asked God if I could work for the Babylon B, which is strangely enough, I was like, I got out during COVID.
There wasn't a lot to do at the church.
So I was narrating audiobooks and I narrated like 60 audiobooks.
And so I sat in this little booth for like eight hours a day, which I'm sure you know.
I have a lot of people.
You know the pain.
And for like a long time, and I just got out of my booth and I asked God, I just said, God, the Babylon B had just started doing sketches.
And I was like, God, please, can I just work for the B?
Can I please just do sketches for the B?
And within a month, I was doing, I didn't realize they were like less than, they were like five minutes away from my house.
And I had no idea.
They were making all that sketch work right there.
And so I ended up going down and just joining up.
And every day I'd, after work, I'd drop by and be like, what can I do for you guys?
And, you know, I want a job here.
So finally they started.
Well, they hired me as a Russian mobster.
I think the first role I got was as a Russian mobster murderer that couldn't decide whether or not he was going to follow the gun laws because it would make it really difficult to murder people or something.
Yeah.
So it was like, you know, it's going to make it really hard to kill people if I have to follow these new laws that Democrats are putting into place.
And so, you know, it was really a fun sketch.
And then I started doing just sketch after sketch.
And then within about six weeks or six months, I was producing for them because I, for 15 years of ministry, I knew everybody in town.
And so they're like, we need a location.
I'm like, I know a guy.
You know, like, you know, we need this.
We need that.
We need actors.
And I'm like, well, I used to act.
I could bring some people in.
And so anyway, so that's kind of how it kind of became what I am now.
And then since then, it's been hundreds of sketches.
I don't even know how long, how many.
I'd have to count them up.
But, you know, and each one of them attacking some terrible idea, you know, because that's kind of what we do is like we go after ideas.
We don't go after people necessarily unless they represent the idea.
And so then we will go after people.
But, you know, some people embody ideas.
I have to say, like, well, God was in a good mood.
You should have asked him for like a billion dollars.
I know.
It's a weird story.
You missed your chance.
That's right.
I'm not one of those guys.
I'm not like a name and claim it kind of guy.
So like, it's kind of funny that God was like, oh, sure.
I was like, thanks.
Thank you.
I appreciate it so much.
So anyway, it's just been a crazy story.
So have you left the ministry behind?
So I still volunteer at a church that's local, but I did retire about a year, a year and a bit ago from full-time ministry because I couldn't do both jobs.
And it was just really hard to do both jobs.
So I retired and now I volunteer at a local church and I do music.
And, you know, it's great when I'm in town because I've been out of town a bunch doing homestead.
And, you know, we shoot around, you know, the United States for the Ballon B2.
So it's been, it's been intense.
But yeah.
Was it tough when you were in Hollywood to be a Christian in Hollywood?
Yeah.
I mean, I think every actor sort of goes through this.
I think it did for me.
And I'm sure you went through this too.
You know, you, you don't know what you're allowed to do as a Christian.
Like, obviously you have convictions about what they will let you do, what the Lord will let you do.
You know, like it's like you can't do sex scenes or whatever, violence.
Some people have problems with violence or cussing or whatever.
And so you always had those problems, right?
So I like had to turn things down because of the content, like, you know, stuff that would have been really good for my career.
The Lord was just kind of like, don't do it.
I'm like, okay, shoot, I'm going to burn this bridge if I tell my agent I can't.
I'll just book this.
It's been like a year and I haven't been on screen and I get this part.
And God's like, no.
And I'm like, you got to be doing.
So that was a challenge.
But, you know, I would, I tried to be obedient to that.
And it just took the long route.
And I was like, all right, I'll do what you want.
And he took me out of it.
And then he put me back in it the way he wanted.
And now I'm, I got so much work.
I don't know what to do.
I don't know how to do it, you know, all of it at once.
It's been interesting.
So it was challenging.
Yes.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, you can't really be yourself on set.
You can't really be yourself on, you know, behind like backstage.
I couldn't express my opinions.
You know, obviously, like the ones that are not kosher to have, you're not allowed to express those things.
You know, the stuff that we talk about on the Daily Wire stuff we talk about on DevOps, all of my opinions about what was going on in the transgender community, all my opinions that was going on.
you know, even Democrats and even like immigration, like people get so angry over that stuff that, you know, you're not really allowed to speak.
It's the, you know, soft totalitarianism of the left.
You're not allowed to do it.
They shame you.
Yeah.
And so, you know, if you want to work, you got to just kind of keep your head down.
And that's sort of what you do.
Now I don't, I don't keep my head down anymore.
So, you know, it's funny.
I mean, first of all, this is much harder for women because I used to get this question all the time.
Am I going to have to take my shirt off basically?
And I would say, you know, yeah, you know, that's that's you're going to have to make that choice whether you're going to lose those roles or not.
And that's going to come up.
I was.
I think I would lose roles if I took my shirt off, actually.
That's how it would work.
I know.
We don't have that problem.
But I was already a screenwriter.
I was working as a screenwriter when I realized I was a Christian.
And it was like, oh, crap.
This is not going to work out well.
And it was crap then.
As soon as you became a Christian, it was crap.
It wasn't the other word anymore.
I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding.
I feel.
No, that's so funny, man.
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah.
You had a long and storied career as well, right?
Andrews.
You were out there doing it forever.
My Hollywood, it wasn't because of, I think it was my politics, not my Christianity, but I went from making a lot of money to making no money.
And it must have been about 10 minutes.
I mean, it must have been from one minute to the other.
You know what I'm saying?
Remember, honey, 10 minutes ago when we were making a lot of money?
We're not doing that anymore.
Yeah, that wasn't.
Remember those days?
That was really nice.
You remember that?
Thursday, remember?
It's so true.
Now you work for the Daily Wire, so you make even less money.
Even less money.
And people hate me.
Now they know what I look like, which is before I was hiding away.
So, does this ever come up when you're playing Satan?
You're playing Hitler?
Good accents.
I'll go back to the accents in a minute.
But you're playing Satan.
You're playing Hitler.
Do you ever think like, maybe I shouldn't be wearing these horns?
Does that ever bother you?
Yeah, the Satan character has been so much fun.
I actually find him to be probably my favorite character.
I haven't had a whole lot of trouble with Satan.
That's a weird thing to say.
But yeah, I think it's such a fun character to play because it's like, what if the devil was just sort of like a, you know, like he came in from corporate.
He's like an HR rep, you know?
You know, a real rough day.
I know we're all feeling it.
Yeah.
So it's that kind of stuff.
I think it's really funny.
And mostly it's been super chill.
You know, you get in trouble with, I did one about Sam Smith when he came out on the Grammys.
I was like, you know, I don't know if you saw this one, but it was like, whatever that was, I'd like to distance myself from that.
It's really great.
And yeah, my Democrat, I don't know if I have any Democrat friends left, but I do think just because they get so offended so easily, like I'd sit down and have a conversation and we could talk about it all day long, but they get offended very, very easily about this stuff.
So I just kind of had to get over it early on.
Like, oh, crap, I guess I'm going to lose.
And it was crap.
It was like, oh, crap.
I guess I'm going to lose these people as friends.
And I kind of grieved it.
And then I was like, well, I guess now that I'm over here, I guess I'll really say what I think.
Exactly.
And where's the Hitler makeup?
Yeah, the Hitler one is one of my favorites too.
Yeah, I do get in trouble sometimes.
I guess, you know, people, you know, send some hateful comments, but after a while, those hateful comments are like what you look forward to in the week.
You know, yeah.
Do you write these sketches or do you suggest them or do you just come in and play the?
So it's a lot of, we have a big team of writers and they're pretty amazing.
And so I don't get to write very many of them.
I have written some.
One that didn't do very well because every time we do anything on trans, it tends to get it tends to get shadow banned.
Suppression.
Yep.
I'm sure you understand.
Yeah.
So yeah, I wrote one called Femme Fatale.
It was like a trans noir sketch about this hard-nosed detective in the 30s, black and white, you know, the whole noir thing.
And, you know, there's a, there's a dame that walks into his office and he can't decide if he can't figure the mystery is if it's a dame or not.
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So he's like, and his name is, his name is Steel Dossier.
You know, like, so it's like the Steel Dossier is literally the best name for a detective ever.
Like, so it's like, Steele, you know, like, so anyway, we did that one.
Um, and I'm really proud of that one.
It's really funny because I love that old style, the old noir style.
But yeah, I mean, honestly, I've written some of the Satan sketches, um, you know, and I do write for some stuff.
I write, I wrote for the Tuttle Twins and, you know, some feature films that we're working on right now.
I get to do that.
Um, and I even wrote a little bit for Homestead because they needed some punch-ups for comedy in some areas.
And so, yeah, let's talk about Homestead.
That's that's Neil McDonough.
Is that the is that Tusanate?
Yes, that's right.
Yeah, Neil McDonough, um, Don Olivieri, Bailey Chase is in it, who's also a great guy.
He came on the show once, Neil, and uh, talked about the fact that he wouldn't even kiss a woman in a scene because it wasn't his wife, which I kind of thought, like, if you're an actor, you sort of, I mean, that's kind of part of the job, but apparently not.
He's, yeah, no, I kind of agree with Neil on that one.
You do, he's a very, very strong Catholic, yeah.
Yeah, and I think his conviction, plus, if you met his wife, if he ever betrayed her, I'm sure she would murder him, you know what I mean?
You know, it's Renee as a force to be reckoned with.
It is about it, he's the nicest guy with the most evil face.
I mean, when he played a bad guy on Justified, I was like, wow, that guy really looks evil.
Oh, yeah, Yellowstone, too.
Like, he's amazing.
Yeah, he's a great actor, too.
Really generous actor.
You know, like he was very kind to me on set.
I've been on, I've been in two movies with him.
I actually was in a movie with him like 20 years ago where I played a British rock musician and he played a reporter and it was very strange.
But anyway, that was a long time ago.
But yeah, but he's a great guy.
And we got to shoot up there in Utah.
And it's for Angel Studios, which, you know, obviously, if you're, if you're aware of them, it's, it's a pretty amazing thing they have going on, especially now.
Their financial structure is really good now.
But yeah, the, it's been, it's been a, it's been amazing.
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And now they've spun it off into a television series.
They took my character from the film and they blew it up, grew it.
And I now have this great arc in the series.
Wow.
So where is that going to, where is that going to be on?
It'll be on Angel Studios.
Yeah.
So if you go to Angel, the Angel app, oh, you got to go and watch it.
It'll stream there.
Yeah.
And then they'll, I think they end up eventually, you know, getting sub-distribution on Amazon or something like that, you know, wherever.
But, but it's pretty amazing.
Like it's how did you?
How did you come into that?
Yeah, roundabout.
You know, I had an audition and one of my friends recommended me to the showrunner and the showrunner was like, oh, crap, like another friend of a friend that I have to watch their audition.
And so I ended up going in and doing this audition.
And I heard back pretty much right away that they wanted to use me for this character.
And it was supposed to be a really small character.
His name's Rick Baumgartner.
He's the one guy in the show that didn't prepare for anything.
You know, so he's the guy that kind of represents everybody in all of the digital story, right?
It is.
Yeah.
There's a nuclear bomb and it's a prepper story, you know.
So I'm the guy that did not prep.
And so I end up showing up at the gate and I'm like, let me in.
So that's the whole story.
But then they called me back and they wanted me to, they're like, we want to give you a backstory.
So I went up and I did reshoots.
We had this whole backstory thing.
And so I couldn't believe it.
They just kept growing my part.
They're just really amazing guys.
And we got along famously.
So it was awesome for them to just kind of like take a risk on me because I haven't worked for so long in a dramatic space that it was like really fun.
I've been comedy for so long that, you know, it was a risk.
You know, like, what's this guy going to do?
Yeah.
So, and I actually think if you're an actor, comedy is good training for a drama, actually.
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Yeah, most comedian is a good idea.
So, you know, I get, I get asked all the time, you know, from writers, how do you get into the business and all this stuff?
And it used to be, you know, not that long ago, it used to be there was a way you had to get an agent.
There was a way to get an agent.
You had to do these things a step, step, step.
And now, you know, you can publish your book by pressing a button almost.
But if you do, you're sending it off into the pit of darkness.
Nobody's ever going to read it.
So you have to actually build a profile.
And, you know, you have is a whole new way of publishing a book.
So an actor-aspiring actor comes to you and says, but aside from prayer, what do I do now?
You know, what do you tell them?
Would you still tell them to go west and go to Hollywood?
No.
No.
No, I wouldn't actually.
I wouldn't tell people to come to LA by any means.
I think there's tons of work to do that's non-union.
There's tons of work in the growing conservative space.
I mean, Dallas Sonier over there, you know, Daily Wire, we're buddies.
He's got tons of stuff going on.
Angel Studios has a ton of stuff going on.
And especially if you're a believer and you're not willing to take your clothes off or do the softcore porn for Game of Thrones, like you can, there's a lot of work to do.
There's a lot of work to do.
And my, I don't know.
I think getting an agent, that kind of stuff is important.
I think, you know, just so you can say you have an agent, I guess.
And then, yeah, but it's not like it was when I was coming up.
Like, you know, getting a headshot, getting your resume figured out, trying to get an agent and then having them submit you.
It's a lot less like that now.
You kind of got to create your own content.
You got to get out there on YouTube.
I suggest going and getting a job at the Babylon B, but there's literally no other positions available.
So I'm sorry.
Are you staff or are you a freelancer?
So I'm staff.
I'm staff there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm actually, my official title is producer.
And so that's what I've been doing for the last four years, but I get to be on camera too.
So it's kind of a great little addendum to it.
You're producing a lot of these videos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what that looks like for me is, you know, bringing all the different pieces together.
So I have my script.
You know, we do a punch-up session.
I, I'm the, I'm casting most of the time.
So like I, I find my, I find my actors locations, making sure if we need, you know, insurance or, or, you know, we have to get permits or something like that.
Then I'm, I'm on all that stuff.
I'm on set when I'm not on camera, on set solving problems, just like producers do, you know, on a scale.
And I have an amazing team.
There's some amazing people on my team that are extremely detailed, you know, like and really, really good at their jobs.
So, you know, and great writers and stuff to work with.
So it's amazing.
It's kind of a dream scenario.
And it's awesome.
Is there anything in that situation where you can imagine the bee coming to you and asking you to do something?
You're saying, you know, it's a funny idea, but I just can't do it.
That they that they would do, you know, not a new scene because they wouldn't do it, but like.
No, listen, I'm perfectly fine mocking the ideas of the left of the LGBTQ of, you know, all that stuff.
But we've done some stuff that has been particularly like pointed, probably more at the LGBTQ community, which I'm fine with because it's like, we got to mock those ideas.
You know, we got the pink army coming at us.
You know, they're totalitarians too.
So we need to have conversations about that, but people get offended really easily.
So if I could do it over again, I might not, I might not hit those topics so hard.
But I think, you know, I mean, like, we got to hit those topics too.
Everything needs to be made fun of.
You wouldn't do it because it causes offense, not because it bothers you.
No, I would, I would, um, I would be perfectly fine with the B cranking it out.
I just think me, because I have relationships that maybe, you know, I just think maybe that's the thing.
So.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, my, my father was one of the famous voicemen of his time.
He could do any accent.
I, I, I had seen, I saw him talk to an Italian guy with, he didn't know any Italian, just with double talk.
And it took, it took the Italian guy about 45 seconds to figure out that it was a joke, you know, because he was so, he was so good at imitating, you know, accents.
And you do good accents.
I was wondering, is that something you always were able to do?
Or does that, you know, something you had to work at?
Yeah.
You could always do that.
Yeah.
So I love it.
Well, so I love accents.
I've always been able to kind of do accents.
It's musical.
You know, you can kind of hear the tone and the gravel and the different sounds.
And so I've always loved to do dialects.
And so whenever I hear those kinds of stories, I'm like, oh, I love that stuff.
I used to do loop groups.
So I don't know if you're obviously aware if your followers aren't.
Oh, I know what I mean.
You know, loop group, ADR, like all that stuff.
So I would do like eight people in a room.
And for a long time, I would replace actors' voices that they couldn't bring in.
So, even when I wasn't in the industry, I was just doing ministry, they'd bring me out and, you know, I would re-voice like, you know, Vincent D'Anofrio, like Michael Pena, or even Malcolm McDowell one time, who has this really deep, grabbly voice.
And just go on there and just mimic them, you know.
So, like, just always kind of being able to mimic folks, like it's, it's a lot of fun.
Yeah.
So, accents kind of are the same thing, you know, dialects.
I love the dialects of the English language, you know, that's always fascinating.
Yeah.
And I love going to a place like Scotland and just like doing the accent and everyone's like talking to you like you're a local and you don't, there's no, they, they have all these idioms, you know.
So you get found out pretty quick because they'll be like, ah, geez at a couple of pipes.
You know, and you're like, what do you mean?
I don't know.
I'm from Los Angeles.
You know, yeah, my, my, my brother inherited this talent.
I've gotten none of it.
Like, he can do, he can do anybody.
He can imitate anybody, but not me.
It's like, you know, I, I know, I was on the set of a movie where Hankazario was.
And I think he's probably the best voice guy alive at the moment.
And I thought, I got to go meet him and, you know, just tell him that, you know, about my dad and all this.
I was so overaught, I forgot to tell him why I was there.
And I was just like, oh, hi, you know, so I never, I never got to talk to him.
But, but anyway, so, so now, how, how does this, one of these sketches, where does it begin?
Where does all of this, how does all of it start?
Oh, yeah.
So, you know, as you know, and as you guys know, we, we do all these articles, right?
So we have like 40 articles a week that we produce.
And every once in a while, one of those articles will just go crazy viral and get shared everywhere.
So oftentimes that's the germ.
And then we take it over and we kind of say, okay, how can we turn this into a sketch?
We assign it to somebody in our writing team.
Like, okay, who's who kind of would be good at this?
And so there's different kind of categories of sketch work that you can do.
And like, so maybe it's a fake commercial, you know, like an SNL style fake commercial, or maybe it's like, you know, a rings of power reenactment, you know, like or something.
Like we did, we did like early footage of rings of power, which is when all the rumors were about it, it's going to be totally woke.
So we had like this woke elf show up and talk to this, you know, talk to this new Menorian guy who was me.
And my friend Chandler played the woke elf.
And she comes up and she's like, my pronouns are she, her.
I am a Garyon.
You know, I know, sorry, I'm getting off.
That's one of my favorites.
Yeah.
So we kind of decide which one, what type is, what type is this going to be?
And then once we figure that out, we assign it, somebody writes it, then we bring it back in.
We read it together as a group.
We'll do a punch-up session.
Somebody will take it, rewrite it, then come back.
And then we go into the process of actually creating the sketch.
So we choose location, time, all that kind of stuff from there on, you know, props and acting and all that.
That's, yeah.
I should have asked before, do you have a problem doing woke Jesus, which is really a funny routine?
I mean, but does, but does that ever?
Do you ever think like, you know, I sure hope God has a sense of humor?
I mean, if he doesn't have a sense of humor, we're all so terribly screwed anyway.
But like, all of us are.
Yeah.
All of us are screwed.
Yeah, I think.
No, but I, yes, there have been times like when I shot.
So there's a few things that Jesus does in the upcoming season.
And that first thing is like vignettes.
We do one where he calms the storm because of climate change, you know, like, so we're on a ship, you know, like, like, you're like, Lord, you know, why is this storm?
It's like, yeah, climate, climate health.
You know, it like goes on.
And it's so funny.
And then we do one where the lady that's caught in the act of adultery gets thrown in front of him.
And, you know, he's like, he pulls out the intersectionality chart to see if she's guilty of her own sin.
And, you know, like, that's amazing.
And then we do one more.
I mean, and then when he gets tempted by the devil, which is my favorite one, because it's me twice, I like that.
So, so, yeah.
So, it's like me tempting myself.
And anyway, so I watched the trailer and I'm like, I hope this isn't, I hope this isn't blasphemous.
Like, you know, when people watch it, you know, we're using Jesus as comedy.
Really, what we're doing is mocking the people that say that Jesus said these things and saying, okay, well, if let's see what it looks like when Jesus actually says what you're saying that he says.
So, really, we're going after those progressive Christians that, you know, take the Bible seriously, but not literally or, you know, whatever it is.
Like those folks, my goodness, like they're there.
This one's close to my heart because I'm so mad at those people for leading people away from Jesus.
But, but yeah, dude, yeah, I definitely think that was a long answer for like that question.
Well, I was going to, I was going to say, do you get flack from the right?
I'm sure, you know, your left wing probably doesn't even know you're there half the time.
But like, does the right, do you get flack from the right?
Yeah.
So sometimes people take it very seriously.
Yes, they do.
And you've got your second commandment folks that are like, yeah, don't make a graven image.
So a lot of those folks are kind of mad at us doing this.
And, you know, then you've got your people that are, that don't get the joke, like, you know, or haven't heard of progressive Christianity because they've been living under a rock somewhere.
Like, you know, like haven't seen it.
It hasn't touched their little church in Oklahoma or whatever.
And so they get mad, you know, and we're like, well, we're in LA.
There's a lot of these idiots out here.
So yeah.
Listening to your story, it occurs to me that you did an actual, you may not have done it consciously, but you did an actual brilliant thing.
You're in a town where you can't get work if you say certain things.
So you simply created a job where saying those things was the job, saying the things that would have gotten you kicked out of Hollywood is now your profession, which is pretty, a pretty good turnaround.
Yes, no, that is a good way to put it, I think, you know.
Well, if I can't say it, I'll say it as loud as I can.
And get paid for it.
And maybe I'll get it paycheck.
Yeah, that would be great.
Let's do it.
Because you do get to a point, I think, as an actor or as a producer or as a person that's in Hollywood where you get irritated by the fact that you're hitting that ceiling all the time.
You can't really say what you really think.
And it feels like you're hitting your head all the time.
And so I got so frustrated by that.
I think some people can handle it, but I personally couldn't.
And I think that's partially why I felt called to ministry first.
So I was like, well, at least in ministry, I can say what I think.
And then, you know, 2020 rolls or 20, 2016 rolls around and all of the crazy stuff starts to try to make its way into the church too.
So then you're starting to get limited there.
And not that that happened everywhere, but you start to see the DEI stuff kind of work its way in.
And so I got frustrated there too.
So I was like, where can I say this if I can't say it here?
So the Babylon B became a very needed outlet, I think, for me.
And then for everyone else too, everyone's like, wow, other people think this.
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Thank God.
You know, I can't believe it.
And the Daily Wire, obviously doing the work you guys have done.
I just think it's, it was a much needed like release valve on that, on that cultural moment.
So it's been an amazing turnaround.
Jarrett LeMaster, you can go on and get all his stuff on YouTube.
Look up, you know, Woke Jesus, Jarrett LeMaster, Satan, all of those things.
They all come up.
Some of them absolutely gut-bustingly hilarious.
Jared, it's really nice to meet you.
And you're doing good work.
I really, really appreciate watching it.
Well, thank you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me on.
And it's a pleasure to meet you too.
Yeah.
I hope we get a chance to hang out again.
Me too.
I say hello to the guys at the B.
I appreciate them.
All right, well dear.
Thanks a lot.
We'll do.
Well, not only instructive, but hopeful, Jarrett LeMaster over at the Babylon Bee, where I always tease them that they're the second funniest satirists on the net, but they really are great, and they've been doing great work for a long time.
And it just keeps getting better.
And Jarrett is one of the reasons why.
So if you want to enjoy that, go ahead.
But do not forget to come to the Andrew Clavin Show on Friday.