Infinite Gaslight pits CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash against Trump’s debate dominance, framing morality as either divine (via Sound of Hope—a pastor adopting 77 foster kids) or self-made (Hitman, a Nietzschean crime comedy). The segment warns deepfake "psychic rape" (like Elliston Berry’s case) exposes tech’s moral failures, while Ted Cruz’s bipartisan bill seeks 48-hour removals and jail time for offenders. Biden’s cognitive decline—mocked as media gaslighting—highlights institutional power dynamics, with the left’s control over universities, Hollywood, and bureaucracy deemed more dangerous than right-wing tribalism. True faith demands transformative love, not performative hatred, while abortion’s "violinist problem" is dismissed as a denial of maternal responsibility, urging listeners to support Daily Wire memberships (code Claven) amid accusations of mainstream drift. [Automatically generated summary]
CNN, the most trusted name in complete dishonesty, has announced the rules for this month's debate between Donald Trump and some guy with glazed eyes and a frozen smile on his face wandering aimlessly around the stage.
Namely, the President of the United States.
The debate will be moderated by two CNN stalwarts, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash.
Tapper, of course, is the journalist who famously said, it's okay that COVID is dominating your life because it has dominated your life, thus winning the Pulitzer Prize for pueeling fear-mongering in the cause of disinformation.
And Dana Bash is widely believed to have set a new standard in objectivity by sucking up to Nancy Pelosi so hard, their faces merged into a single swampy flesh puddle of noxious lies so terrifying to look upon that horror movie fans are eagerly awaiting this summer's sequel, Dana Bash 2.
This time, it's a debate.
Behind the scenes, Democrats have expressed some concern that it might be unfair to pit Donald Trump in a battle of wits against a man who now lives in a little red pot on the windowsill in the hope that if he gets enough sunshine and water, his leaves will stop turning brown.
So the DNC, working closely with another Democrat organization, CNN, has devised some debate rules to help level the playing field.
Rule number one.
When answering the moderator's questions, both candidates must respond in a weirdly disconnected tone of rage, slurring their words while spewing demagogic, race-baiting inanities that haven't described life as it's actually lived in America since 1962, and then let their voices trail off into a mumbled mess of incomprehensible noise, which when slowed down and played backwards,
either announces the death of Paul McCartney or the name of the shell company to which Hunter can wire 10% of his influence peddling payoffs.
Democrats feel this rule will help eliminate Trump's unfair advantage of making some kind of sense when he talks and of not being the most corrupt politician in America for the last 50 years.
Rule number two.
In the event President Biden should freeze in place with a creepy smile on his face while staring into the empty air as if hearing voices no one else hears and then wander offstage like a lost toddler looking for his mother, who, by the way, isn't really a doctor, the audience must continue looking at the television screen as if nothing strange is going on and must later pretend not to have seen what they saw.
Those audience members who best pretend not to see the truth that's right in front of their eyes will win this year's Jake Tapper and Dana Bash Award for being like Jake Tapper and Dana Bash.
Rule number three.
Any remark made by Donald Trump that is not absolutely crystal clear in its meaning is to be completely misconstrued to give it its most hateful interpretation, which will then be referred back to forever as proof of Trump's bigotry and authoritarianism.
For instance, if Trump should point out that by leaving our borders entirely unprotected, Joe Biden has shown littler respect for the rule of law than any president in history, this is to be taken as a sly, complimentary reference to Adolf Littler, who would have been the most evil man in European history had he been Adolf Hitler instead of a comparative adjective.
After that and into the foreseeable future, journalists will make offhanded references to Trump's praise for Hitler as being just one of the many, many egregious moral crimes Trump has committed in their totally false reporting.
CNN and other Democrat organizations hope that these rules will make for debate as fair and honest as the journalism on CNN and other Democrat organizations.
Meanwhile, both candidates have begun preparing for the debate.
Joe Biden is sitting quietly alone in his basement, hoping someone will come by soon and give him his pills, which make him feel so much better for a while.
And Donald Trump has had himself locked in a screened cage where advisors occasionally crack open the door and throw in raw meat, which Trump rips to pieces while drooling blood as the advisors run for their lives.
Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Klavan, and this is The Andrew Klavan Show.
You know, I want to do an entire documentary.
I'm not sure if I've talked about this before.
I have four.
I have a vision of an entire documentary called Jake Tapper Through the Ages.
You know, you remember Trump came back from COVID and he said, don't be afraid of it.
Don't let it dominate your lives, which was, of course, what a president should say.
And Jake Tapper said, no, you should be afraid of it.
You know, you shouldn't worry about letting it dominate your life.
It has dominated your life.
So I think we should go back to all of Jake Tapper's reports, like after FDR gave his Depression inaugural speech where he said, we have nothing to fear but fear itself.
And then Jake Tapper saying, nothing to fear.
There are people on breadlines.
Everybody's hungry.
Brokers are falling out of windows.
You know, Eisenhower's letter to the troops at D-Day, the tide has turned.
We expect nothing.
We'll accept nothing less than victory.
And then Jake Tapper, nothing less than Nazis are all over the place.
They'll kill us all.
We could go back to Henry V on St. Crispian Day, you know, before the big battle.
Gentlemen in England now abed shall think themselves accursed.
They were not here.
Accursed they were not here.
The French will kill us.
Jake Tapper through theaters.
This is the CNN where Brian Stelter once missed a deadline because he went to bed early to have a good cry about COVID.
Absolutely true.
And Anderson Cooper, remember, teared up when Donald Trump said that Haiti and others were these, you know, crap hole countries.
It was like, oh, the people in Haiti are so nice.
I mean, really, I have nothing against women in the newsroom, but it's like all they need a CNN is Dylan Mulvaney to make a complete set.
All right.
You know, exciting news for me this week, which I hope will be interesting to you.
My new Cameron Winter mystery, mystery number four.
This is a big one because it's kind of a transitional story that takes Cameron Winter out of his emotional past and into the present.
And it's going to change the series in certain ways.
It's called A Woman Underground.
And we just got the cover.
We finally have a cover, which if you're watching, we'll show you a picture of now.
And that is out on October 15th, but you can pre-order it on Amazon, A Woman Underground, the fourth in the series of Cameron Winter mysteries.
I'm not going to promote it all summer long because it's just too much, but I hope you'll go out and pre-order it because this time, you know, the New York Times has been under fire for the dishonesty of their bestseller list.
And you know, we have proof that they kept us off it last time.
So go out and buy a woman underground, pre-order it for October 15th.
And maybe this time we'll force them to eat it.
Clavin Clapbacks, Clavin with a K, clapbacks with a K at dailywire.com.
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Last week, we had the charming progressive Nellie Bowles, and I was really happy that people welcomed her.
You know, I was a little worried I was going to get dragged because it's very obvious I like Nellie and I really enjoyed her book, Morning After the Revolution.
And I was afraid people, you know, people can be so caught in their niche.
They don't want to hear anybody who disagrees with them.
But Nellie, we do disagree.
I do disagree with some of the things that Nellie believes in, but I just want to hear her.
She's an honest person and a smart person and a nice person.
I want to hear it.
And so we'll make up for having a lovely progressive on this week.
We're going to have the most evil right-winger in the world, Nick Searcy, the actor.
And just he's not just a great actor, but he's also a complete right-wing lunatic.
So that should make up for it.
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He says, Greetings from the Black Forest.
That's where my wife and I were for our holiday a couple weeks ago.
Days ago, he says, I saw an ancient-looking figure walking in the mist and thought it might be a troll or a walchrat.
The figure was laughing all the time, which was odd, but now I know it was probably just Clavin.
Yeah, we have a picture here of a Waltz rat, and you can see it does look very much like me, so it's easy to get us confused.
All right, enough of this hilarity.
Let's get down to today's episode, Infinite Gaslight.
Today, I want to step back.
The news has been, you know, kind of samey for me.
I'm, you know, I don't want to just get into the latest outrage every week.
And I want to step back today and take a larger look at the culture and what it means both politically and personally to each one of us and how we can handle this upcoming, what will we call it, vortex of chaos that is coming with the beginning, beginning with the debate and then into the election.
So let's get right to chapter one: Hope and the Hitman.
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I know what you're thinking.
You're thinking, what am I?
Some kind of fool that you have to tell me how to spell beam?
How do you spell Clavin?
It's K-L-A-V-A-N.
They're no E's in Clavin.
just make it look this easy.
So I had what I thought was kind of a weird providential experience this week.
I mean, it's not like a miracle or anything.
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It's kind of a weird coincidence.
Maybe I just saw it.
I watched two movies this week, and I thought, weirdly, they both had the exact same theme, but in mirror images of one another.
The same theme, the same pattern, but they were mirror images of one another.
And the reason that's weird is because I didn't go out searching for them.
In fact, I watched one of them because I had to.
It's the Daily Wire film that they're collaborating with Angel Studios on.
Daily Wire Plus and Angel Studios are collaborating on this film, Sound of Hope, the story of Possum Trot.
I guess it's supposed to go along with Sound of Freedom, the story of Possum Trot, Angel Studios.
Of course, the reason this is, I told you last week, the reason I think this is so important is Angel Studios has broken the Hollywood distribution system.
And as I say, we keep thinking, well, why don't we have movies and all this?
And the reason we don't have a movie is distribution.
You can make a movie.
You can make a great movie with a credit card in your pocket if you have the talent and the skill set and the access to talent, but you can't distribute it because the distributors are not that friendly to what we're doing.
But Angel Studios has gone around that and has created their own kind of internal faith-based distribution system.
And it has really been amazing.
I mean, Sound of Freedom was a huge hit.
Sound of Hope, the story of Possum Trot, comes out July 4th, I believe, and we are helping to release it and helping.
We're a part of that release and part of promoting it.
I'm very excited about that.
So I had to watch it because I wanted to tell you about it and talk about it.
I didn't want to pretend that I had seen it or anything like that.
And the other film, which was the big film on Netflix this week, Hitman, I didn't really want to see.
And my wife sort of talked me into it because I'm just her love slave and I will do anything she tells me to see.
And so you can't imagine two films more different than Sound of Hope, the story of Possum Trot, and Hitman.
One, Hitman, is kind of a black, let's say a black comedy, a very, very dark crime story comedy.
I think that's a fair description of it.
And Sound of Hope is a Christian tearjerker.
I mean, it really is.
And so I'm watching both these things.
And in some ways, they're almost the same picture, but mirror image, you know, like the angel and the devil on Donald Luck's shoulders, kind of like that.
And so the story has Sound of Hope, like I say, it's a tearjerker, very sweet story, a true story, based on a true story, about a Reverend and his wife, or I really should say a wife and her reverend because she's kind of the instigator, who, along with 22 families in this place in the middle of East Texas, this town Possum Trot.
I mean, you gotta, a town named Possum Trot is obviously going to be nowhere.
They adopt 77 of the most difficult-to-place kids in the foster system.
If you know anything about the foster system, it's a mess.
And people do horrible, horrible things to their children, as we know.
And the state doesn't know what to do with them.
And they bring them into this terrible system.
And a lot of times, who wants to adopt the kid who's already acting out and has had such troubles in his life that he's doing terrible things?
So this pastor and his wife start to do this, and the whole church gets into it in numerous churches.
I have to say, by the way, and for reasons that have nothing to do with bigotry whatsoever, there are simply more extraordinarily talented black actors in America than there are parts for them.
Even now, when they're putting black actors in parts that are really for white people, there's still, you know, it's a majority white country.
Blacks are only like 14%.
And like Jews, they're a talented bunch of guys and girls.
And the acting in this is great.
The lady named Nika King, I think her name is.
She plays the wife.
She's been in Euphoria, which I've never seen.
I only saw a bit of it.
And Demetrius Gross is the pastor.
And he was in Justified starring international TV and film star Nick Searcy and right-wing Insanity.
So, all right, so just bear with me here and see if you see this too.
Because I'm not going to give too much away, but the Sound of Hope begins in this rural black church with Demetrius Gross as this pastor giving what you might call a typical black church sermon, which is almost more song than prose.
There's just a little clip of that cut seven.
You ain't got to come through the side door.
No!
So, I...
I love watching these scenes because they're so full of faith.
And I just would never, I'm too shy to ever go to that because I have no soul.
So I would just be standing there like Joe Biden, frozen while everybody else was dancing on.
But they are incredibly inspiring.
All right.
So he comes out and he gives this sermon, you know, and it's this very encouraging, upbeat, optimistic sermon.
And then his wife gets this idea to start adopting kids and they start bringing these kids in and the kids are damaged, you know.
And so now suddenly he's actually doing, fulfilling what he's preaching.
He's practicing what he preaches, right?
And because of the nature of the Christian ideas, these are transformative.
And the next sermon he gives, he starts out completely unsure of what he's doing, right?
Suddenly, it's all real.
It's not just inspiring.
It's not just, yeah, yeah, amen, amen.
He's got these kids in his house who are really, really damaged.
And he gives a very different kind of sermon.
So here's a clip of that.
I don't have enough money to be talked to no kids.
Right?
Well, Joseph abducted the synagogue.
And had Jesus born right there in the manger, right next to a pile of manure.
He did all right in it.
Let's do it.
But, Reverend, I don't want to make no big old thing messed.
I ain't going to got to take care of somebody else's problem, do I?
Oh, Jesus.
And what I say to that is, Pharaoh's daughter took the Redeemer of slaves and pulled them up right out of the murky banks of the Nile River and set Moses right there in the home as if he was her own son.
As you can see, you will weep through this movie from beginning to end.
July 4th, it opens.
All right, so now I watch this totally different picture because my wife, you know, bullies me into it.
And Hitman, which I thought was really good.
This is a guy, Richard Linkletter.
He's famous for, he did School of Rock, but he also did this famous trilogy of love stories called Before, Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Before Midnight.
They called the Before trilogy.
So he's kind of an offbeat, independent filmmaker.
And he makes this little crime story.
And little crime stories, I have to admit, my favorite kind of movies.
I like these little offbeat crime stories.
One of my favorite kinds of movies.
It's got Glenn Powell, who was in Top Gun, and Adria Torres, who was in Triple Frontier, which was kind of a fun action movie.
And it's the same arc.
It starts with this guy, instead of a preacher.
He's a professor in New Orleans, and he's teaching philosophy.
He's teaching about Nietzsche.
And he's simplifying Nietzsche to a kind of inspiring message.
And Nietzsche is a very, very difficult guy, but he's the guy who said God is dead.
And basically, he started to imagine what it meant for God to be dead in our civilization that had been shaped by Christianity.
And now suddenly all those things he knew, that whole system was going to fall apart as we see it falling apart in front of us right now.
And he said, we will have to become the gods.
We are going to have to make up the morality where supermen are going to come along.
Übermensches are going to come along and they are going to make up the morality that used to be given to us by this imaginary God who is now gone, whom we've now killed.
So he now kind of reduces that.
This is obviously not the biggest, you know, highest-ranked university in the world.
He's in New Orleans.
And he's reduced that to a kind of inspiring message.
So here he is giving his sermon, his lecture, cut five.
So what does Nietzsche mean when he says the secret for harvesting from existence, the greatest fruitfulness, the greatest enjoyment is to live dangerously.
Build your cities on the slopes of Vesuvius.
Send your ships into uncharted seas.
Live at war with your peers and yourselves.
What is he getting at here?
Anybody.
Sylvia.
It sounds like he's saying you have to put yourself out there.
You have to take risks and get out of your comfort zone because life is short.
You have to live passionately and on your own terms.
Well, I have a three-word response to that.
Ab so lutely.
Says the guy driving the civic.
Says the guy driving the civic because he's living this life where he has cats and he lives alone and he's kind of a small guy, you know, almost he's not a high school teacher, he's a university professor, but he's still kind of a small guy, not doing anything that actually gets him out of his comfort zone.
So like the preacher, he's making these inspiring, he's delivering these inspiring servings, but he's not quite living the life.
And when you live into the meaning of your words, it actually changes everything because being a Christian is obviously not about screaming, Christ is king, or even, you know, pointing at other, this is going to be a surprise, I know, pointing at other people and telling them they're going to hell.
That's actually not what it's being about.
But when you start to take those children in, now you're living out the meaning of your creed, and that is going to turn you into something different than you were.
That is going to break down the walls of your house.
Same thing with this guy.
He has one thing that he's doing, which is he's an electronics expert.
And so he helps the police.
He volunteers to help the police when they set up guys.
And I know a cop who does an ex-cop who does this, who did it, where they pretend to be hitmen.
And you try and hire a hitman and they put you in jail for trying to kill somebody.
And it actually cuts off a murder.
It's actually a good thing to do.
And the joke is, of course, there are very few professional hitmen.
I mean, that's not outside of the gangs, outside of like the mafia and places like that.
You know, hitmen are creatures of fiction largely.
So he's basically helping the cops not become pretending to be the hitman.
He's just micing the guy up.
And suddenly the guy can't do it.
The guy who's supposed to go in and do it can't do it.
So Glenn Powell, this meek, mild-mannered college professor, suddenly finds himself doing the things that he was talking about, building his house on the side of Vesuvius, living outside of his comfort zone, taking the risks, going against society by pretending to be a hitman.
And like the preacher in Sound of Hope, it starts to change him.
And here he is, his first time out, finding his way to playing a hitman.
Fake suicide, posh robbery, I'm in and out.
What you're talking about requires me to spend a lot of time with the body to make sure it's never discovered.
All right, no.
Just curious.
How do you do that?
I'll let you know a few of my secrets.
I got different ways, but in this case, I'll probably go full on, separate the head from the body, do what I like to call a bayou burial.
You know Bayou Gosh?
I sure do.
My family's got land out there, so late at night.
I'll drift in undetected.
Drift out in a little boat.
Let the alligators take it from there.
So, all right.
So the same, the same thing is happening.
So this is what I mean.
Like, I just, I'm, I won't say forced into watching this, but it was an assignment.
You know, I had to watch Sound of Hope because we're promoting it.
And I had to watch this because if I don't obey my wife, you know, she'll leave me.
And I just follow her wherever she goes.
And it's the same film, except about different ideas.
Now, Nietzsche is a cornerstone of our modern life.
Nietzsche is the guy who announced that God was dead and that now it was up to us to form a philosophy to replace Christianity.
And from that, all the postmodernism that we're dealing with now, transgenderism, perfect example.
You feel like you're a woman?
Poof, you're a woman.
Who's to say you're not?
Where's the God who's going to say there's an objective reality when all reality is simply perceived by us with no one to confirm, for instance, our moral ideas?
You may think it's a good idea to not abort a baby, but if someone else thinks a million other people think it's a great idea to kill a baby, then maybe it is moral.
It's just there is no God to set that absolute objective moral standard.
And so we, the great man, the big man, gets to rewrite morality and set it for himself.
And this is essentially where all of the philosophy that is now controlling the left comes from.
And so what you see in Hitman is you see a guy living out that philosophy in Sound of Hope.
You see the guy living out the Christian philosophy.
He does not believe that God is dead.
He believes that those stories in the Bible about Pharaoh's daughter pulling Moses out of the river, that means something.
That is speaking to us directly from something beyond ourselves.
And when he starts to live into that, not just wear it as a t-shirt, not just shout it in a stadium, not just strut around and say, I'm a Christian, you're going to hell, I'm a good guy, and you're a sinner, not just doing that, but actually living out the words of Christ, he becomes something new.
And when this Hitman does the same thing, when he starts living out the Nietzschean anti-God, God is dead idea, he becomes something new as well.
Now, I won't give either of the ends of the movie away.
I will say that I wish the end of Hitman had been more complex and more interesting than it was.
I thought it was a little easy.
He slipped into a kind of acute ending instead of the ending I would have written, which of course is the ending it should have had.
But still, it had some great stuff in it.
It's a very, very good movie.
I highly recommend it.
Lots of it, very entertaining to watch.
And it tells you something that is, these films tell you something that is an answer or at least a guide to the central question of this new technological age, which is this.
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Where does meaning come from?
Where does morality start?
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Chapter two, welcome to the metaverse.
So this leads me into a conversation I am having with my son Spencer, no relation, at our substack, the newjerusalem.substack.com, where what we're talking about is technology and how we are going to find God in a transhuman moment, a moment when you might be able to change your sex.
Maybe there'll be a machine that has babies for you.
You know, we don't know what the technology is coming, but we know that it will extend the life of human beings.
So before I talk about that, I want to talk about, tell you a very quick story.
I think I told this once before.
I'm not sure, but it doesn't matter.
My wife and I recently went to a Van Gogh show about a year ago.
And the show was not Van Gogh paintings.
It was a white room, an all-white room, and the walls were flooded everywhere with Van Gogh paintings, which kind of moved around.
And there were quotes from Van Gogh.
I thought it was going to be kind of cheesy.
It was a little cheesy, but it was also kind of interesting.
When I walked out of this thing, a young man was there to greet me, and he gave me a mask, you know, one of these new three-dimensional masks, which I had never used before.
I'd used a kind of prototype mask, but I'd never used the real deal.
And he said, this comes with your ticket.
You can put it on.
And there was a little bar stool that spun around 360 degrees full around.
And I put on the thing and I switched it on.
And I was awestruck.
I was awestruck because suddenly you were inside Van Gogh's paintings.
My hands, I was sitting there spinning around in any way you spun, you could see it 360 degrees.
My hands went up in the air.
My mouth fell open.
And I thought, I am looking at the future of art, not just visual art, but storytelling art, probably video game art.
This is clearly where things are going.
And what I thought to myself really was if I were just a little bit younger, maybe 10 years younger, this is what I, if I were just starting my career, certainly if there were more room in my career going forward, this is what I would do because this is the new way of telling stories.
This is the new way of bringing people into the artist's experience so you can see it.
Now, that means something.
It means that this stuff about the metaverse is going to be slow.
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It's not going to be what they think it is.
It may not be we may not visit each other in the metaverse, but we are going to be telling stories there.
We are going to be communicating there.
It is absolutely where the stories that represent our life are going to unfold in a new way.
Because you know, as I've said many times, wokeness is the end of art.
Art has sucked.
I mean, this new Star Wars, I love the fact.
Yes, it's Star Wars, right?
Yeah.
Where they've got lesbians, you know, are the force and the force are the bad guy, the Jedi are the bad guy and all this stuff.
And I thought what I like about this is before I was not going to watch Star Wars, but now I'm going to really enjoy not watching it.
It's going to be a, I may buy popcorn and not watch it, just eat popcorn and not watch Star Wars.
And so, you know, they're done.
They're done.
But the new thing is going to be here.
And you're going to see, I always tell you, I know women get angry at this, but it's just the truth.
When women take over an industry, that means that the industry is over.
And it's not because the women aren't talented.
It's not because they're smart.
It's because men do things first.
Men go out and find things first and invent new things, you know, video games.
They invent that first.
They go there first.
And I'm sure that a lot of talented people who don't care whether Disney wants to hire white people or not are now building things that will be three-dimensional.
And see it.
Now, okay.
Technology means choice.
When you have a technology, it takes away the consequences of your actions, right?
So you had sex.
Doesn't mean you're going to have a baby because you've got the technology of birth control pills.
Didn't work.
You have a baby.
You've got the technology of abortion.
It gives you all these new choices that eliminate consequences.
And so it makes everything a choice.
Now, if you think that morality comes from the self, if you think it comes from the person, or you're a materialist, then that's one situation.
For instance, if evolutionary necessity makes a chaste woman valuable, before there's any technology, if a woman has been chaste, if you know you slept with a virgin on your wedding night, you know her children are yours.
At least that first child, you know, is yours.
You know she's a virtuous person.
And so she's probably not going to cheat on you.
And she can guarantee that it is worth your while to hang around and take care of that child because that child is your genetic legacy.
And you want to take care of that and make sure that legacy survives, right?
Now you have technologies, you have birth control, you have paternity tests, you have abortion, a welfare state so that it'll take care of the child for you.
That eliminates the necessity.
So now women are free to become promiscuous and men are free to use that promiscuity for their pleasure and the women don't suffer any consequences.
And if it happens that they're utterly miserable and depressed as they all are because of this, well, that's the only problem there is that this new freedom is bumping up against this outmoded evolutionary pattern, right?
All the morality is coming from within us, right?
We're the Übermensch, we're the Nietzschean.
All the morality is coming from within us.
So if you feel bad about what you're doing, that's just because you're not used to it yet.
Maybe if you take some antidepressants, you'll just sail through it.
But if you remember the other day, I was talking about a sculpture of Mary, the Virgin Mary, being crowned in heaven.
If that is where meaning comes from, if there's a pattern to a moral pattern in heaven that is coming down from us, down to us, and we are sort of striving toward that moral without judgment of other people, but with fear and trembling on our own behalf, and we're striving toward that, then the meaning of a chaste woman is very, very different.
And the value of her is spiritual.
And so now you have this choice, which way are you going to go?
Are you going to go for the immediate pleasure that you can get out of using a woman without consequence, the pleasure, the absolute depression that the woman goes into, but feels that at least somebody might like her for a night because they sleep with her?
Is that where you're going to go?
Or are you going to make a choice with no punishment if you make the wrong choice?
There's no punishment, not in this world, not in this world.
There's not going to be any baby.
They're not going to be, you know, you have a baby.
You just abort it, and that's no problem, you know?
Or are you going to say, no, my faith is such that I see this other pattern coming from without?
You have to choose now.
Before, there were at least penalties, right?
And this always bothers me when people say, don't do that because it's not as healthy as this.
Well, you'll cure the disease eventually.
Even with transgenderism, when people say, well, men can't become women, that's true now, but maybe one day it won't, you know, maybe one day they'll make that technology.
So, and you'll remember, I did that interview with Jonathan Haidt where I said, where does morality come from?
And I felt he didn't really have a full answer.
He said, well, it's just something we kind of all make up together.
It's real in the same way the value of gold is real, but it's not real the way this table is real.
And the thing about that is, I don't believe that gold is a contingent human invention, but it represents a value that people can calculate in their head, even though you can't see it.
Even though you can't see it, it's real.
It's not a fiction.
It's real.
The gold is a fiction.
We make that fiction up to say this represents the value that I know is there.
And I know the value of a glass of water in the desert is higher than the value of a glass of water where I'm sitting right here, where I can reach out and just grab a glass of water.
So morality is contingent in the sense that on human beings, it changes in you can't kill your enemy, but you can kill your enemy in war.
You have to, you know, that's why we have a living savior, not a book of rules.
We have a living God who can react as a human being and be flexible.
But now, all of the natural consequences of bad actions or actions that we consider bad are going to go away.
And the question now becomes, is your chastity, if you're a lady, is your chastity really of value?
If there's no consequence to violating your chastity, is it a value?
Sigmund Freud would look at the stories of gods, you know, psyche and Eros.
And he would say, well, psyche and Eros represents the fact that in your psyche, you are actually having a dark secret affair with Eros, with your sexual drives, but you can't look at them.
So they're repressed, right?
And that's what he would say.
He would say, the gods represent us.
Well, C.S. Lewis, obviously the great Christian apologist, he wrote a wonderful novel, actually one of his much better novels called Till We Have Faces, where he retells the story of psyche.
And Psyche is having an affair with a god, but it's God.
It's actually her joining Jesus in death.
It's the same story, but it's told so that what we feel, what we experience, represents something out there.
And those are the two choices.
The two choices are Sound of Hope, the movie Sound of Hope, where people are looking to a God out there, and Hitman, where he is saying we create reality and therefore we can create any reality we have.
And you can see that the metaverse that is coming, that I started out talking about, these masks that we're going to be wearing, these imitation realities that we're going to be in, already the imitation that we're in in cyberspace online is going to detach us even further from our flesh and further from each other.
We'll be able to say things to each other without actually facing each other.
And it is going to begin to seem that we are creating reality.
And it's going to depend, everything is going to depend on whether you think that the reality we create is reality or you think it's simply a story about a reality that's outside ourselves.
And I'll tell you how that's coming into play in our politics right now.
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Chapter 3, Deep Fake Nation.
Now, first, let me begin by giving a shout out to Senator Ted Cruz.
Cruz is kind of my political spiritual spirit animal.
You know, I agree with most of the things that he believes in.
And he was doing a thing, and he brought in Amy Klobuchar.
So they did it bipartisan, which I appreciated, but it obviously stemmed from Cruz, began with Ted Cruz.
14-year-old girl, now she's 15, but when this happened at 14, her name is Elliston Berry.
If you're watching, there's a picture of her.
There she is.
She's a lovely 14, now 15-year-old girl.
She wakes up one morning and she's getting all these text messages.
There is a nude picture.
There are nude pictures of her online.
Some student has gone on and made a deep fake picture of her in the nude walking around.
She's obviously, she's weeping.
She goes into her mom.
Her mom tries to do stuff to protect her.
Can't get any goodness.
Finally goes to Senator Ted.
And Cruz acts.
And with Amy Klovichar, they introduce a bill that criminalizes doing this to people.
And if you do it to a child, it's even worse.
And their jail penalty is like two years if you do it to an adult, three years if you do it to a child.
And on top of this, the websites have to remove the fake nude pictures of innocent people within 48 hours of receiving notice from the victim.
Here's Senator Cruz talking about it.
You know, it can be maddening dealing with big tech and trying to get these images, these fake images of your child taken down.
And big tech over and over again has demonstrated an arrogance, an imperiousness, a lack of accountability.
We're all aware that this happened to Taylor Swift.
And if you happen to be a global pop star, you can get the images pulled down.
When Taylor Swift rightly said these images are disgusting, pull them down, big tech responded.
But if you're not fortunate enough to be a global celebrity, if you're just a teenager living in Texas or New Jersey or anywhere else, big tech ignores your pleas for help.
So this is so true.
And this is, I'm a big free speech guy, big First Amendment guy, but this is not that issue because we know, Cruz is right.
I mean, we know if, for instance, they took a famous person and made her say something or endorse something that she didn't endorse, a political candidate she hated or something like that, that would be, that's wrong.
Your face, your being is, it's part of you.
And that's doing the same thing to this girl who's living her life.
And now you're saying, well, she's doing things.
She's taking her clothes off, which she shouldn't be doing.
You know, the first time I heard about this, which is now quite some time ago, I don't know why it bothered me so much.
I wanted to catch a taxicab off the planet Earth.
I thought, like, who, how low could you possibly sink that you would do this to somebody?
And it was kind of mysterious because, of course, you can do much worse things.
You can rape people.
You can kill people.
It's nothing like that.
And yet, there's something about it.
There is something about it that is deeply, deeply morally offensive.
And I think the thing is, is that as we enter this meta world that we are going to enter, there's no getting out of it, we are essentially developing the power to project ourselves into the space that we're not in.
That's essentially what I do.
If I'm in a Zoom call and it's a three-dimensional Zoom call and you're wearing a mask and suddenly everybody's around you and we can see each other in three dimensions, I am projecting my presence.
For somebody to take that presence and manipulate it to say or do something that violates my morality is an act of psychic rape.
It's an act of like spiritual rape.
And it's so offensive and it's so ugly and it's so damn easy.
And so now we're in this world where how we're represented becomes part of the moral order.
And that means we not only have to develop technologies that show when things are doctored and when they aren't, but we also have to be able to have people that we trust.
And we don't.
Because right now the left, I'm sure there are people on the right who would do this, but nobody has on the left, we are being gaslit infinitely.
An infinite gaslighting is going on where we are being continually told that we are not seeing what we're seeing.
Joe Biden is deteriorating.
He has been deteriorating for years.
You only have to go and look at an old video of him five years ago, six years ago, and look at a video of him today to see how bad it is.
But it's speeding up.
There's no doubt about this.
There's no question about it.
We can see it with our own eyes.
So he freezes and he mumbles and he mutters and he wanders off and he doesn't know where he is.
At the D-Day ceremony, he wandered off after they had a skydiving demonstration and people were making fun of him on the right and all this and pointing this out on the right.
And it turned out he was talking to somebody, but he still wandered off.
He still wasn't where he was supposed to be.
Maloney had to come, the head of Italy had to come and drag him back.
And so now they say, oh, well, you're lying.
So now it happens again at this Hollywood fundraiser, which is already a violation of reality because who cares what George Clooney thinks?
Who cares what Julia Roberts thinks?
They're just pretty people.
They're just genetic jackpots who can say the words that other people write for them in a convincing manner.
Why are we listening to them in the first place?
It's already a violation of realism and reality that any of these people should think they have a reason to use their celebrity to talk to us about things they know so, so little about.
So they raise something like $30 million for the guy, and then Obama's there, and then he is supposed to walk off stage, and he's sitting there completely frozen.
It's just, I mean, it's just absolutely embarrassing.
So the White House now, Corrine John Identity Hire, comes forward and she calls this a cheap fake.
Now, when they actually make a fake, it's called the deep fake.
So she makes up this new term.
Here's just a clip of Corrine John Identity Hire cut too.
They are cheap fakes video.
They are done in bad faith.
And some of your news organization have been very clear, have stressed that these right-wing critics of the president have a credibility problem because of the fact-checkers have repeatedly caught them pushing misinformation, disinformation.
I think that it tells you everything that we need to know about how desperate Republicans are here.
And instead of talking about the president's performance in office, and what I mean by that is his legislative wins, what he's been able to do for the American people across the country, we're seeing these deep fakes, these manipulated videos.
And it is, again, done in bad faith.
So this is literal gaslighting.
Gaslighting comes from a famous thriller play by Patrick Hamilton, a really good play.
It was called Angel Street when they put it on in America.
He was British.
And it's where a husband tries to drive his wife insane by telling her she's not seeing what she's seeing.
She sees the gaslight flickering.
He says, no, you don't.
You know, she sees a painting that was there, but now it's not there.
And, you know, what is going on?
And he does this to her.
And that's what she and they are doing to us.
And they're doing it with everything.
You know, they're doing it with everything.
It is not just the fact that Biden has deteriorated past the point where any responsible person would elect him president or put him in the office of the highest office in the most powerful country on earth.
The border is secure.
The border is secure.
What's your problem?
The border is secure, and if it weren't secure, it would be a good thing.
And you're a bigot for even questioning, but the border is secure.
Crime's down.
It's down.
Somebody came into your local pharmacy and cleaned it out and nobody could do anything about it because that's not a crime anymore.
Yeah, it's crime.
It's not a crime.
So it's not, the crime is down.
It's down.
Everything's fine.
The economy.
You know, this one gets me most of all, because one thing people know is when they can't afford gas, when they can't afford food, when they can't afford things for their children that their children need, they know the economy is bad, and these people are sitting there.
Here is Dana Bash talking to Nancy Pelosi.
You know, why are people so stupid?
I want to just say, and we've been saying this on the show every time we see new numbers, the economy continues to do well in many respects.
The stock market is up.
Gas prices are down.
The inflation rate is at the lowest that it's been in three years.
You joined me on State of the Union back in July.
I asked why the American people weren't giving President Biden the credit that maybe he thinks he should have on the economy.
You said a lot of it is about messaging, and you added that Biden just has to get out there.
It is now six months later.
The administration is still struggling on this issue.
Why?
Why would it be?
How are these people so stupid that they don't understand that the fact that they're eating clay doesn't mean the economy isn't great?
It's great.
It's fine.
Everything's fine.
The president's fine.
The border's fine.
Crime is fine.
Everything is fine.
I mean, you know, it wouldn't be so bad.
And this is one of the reasons I hammer at the press so much.
It wouldn't be so bad without the press, without this dishonest, corrupt, completely, what's the word, inhabited, possessed press, completely taken over by this one philosophy to the point where, you know, you can't make a movie if you're a Trump supporter and without being attacked.
You can't write a book.
You can't say things without them trying to get you off Amazon, without trying to take you down.
When I come on here and I say to you, you know, I hope you'll buy my books because, you know, the Times is not going to support them and they're not going to get any reviews.
I'm not kidding.
I've had a great career.
I have a great career.
But it's because of you.
It's because of you.
It's because you fight back against this massive, massive machinery for creating a gaslight, an infinite gaslight, an infinite gaslight everywhere you go.
And it's not just the information that they're spreading.
And think about the fact, by the way, that Dan Abash is the person who's going to host the, who's going to moderate the debate.
And Jake Tapper, who's the same way, exactly the same.
I mean, here's him reacting to the last Trump-Biden debate.
This is Cut 10.
That was a hot mess inside a dumpster fire, inside a train wreck.
That was the worst debate I have ever seen.
In fact, it wasn't even a debate.
It was a disgrace.
And it's primarily because of President Trump, who spent the entire time interrupting, not abiding by the rules that he agreed to, lying, maliciously attacking the son of the vice president.
When asked to condemn white supremacists, he brought up the name of a neo-fascist far-right group and said, stand back and stand by.
I will talk about who won the debate, who lost the debate, but I can tell you one thing for sure, the American people lost.
These are dishonest people.
I mean, these are people pretending to report, but actually selling you a point of view.
And so now you've got the top people in the country, the administration, telling you you don't see what you see.
The reporters taxed with catching them at doing that, telling you you don't see what you see.
And not only that, when people tell you the truth, the administration uses the power of the law to shut them down.
I mean, there was a nurse who revealed the Texas Children's Hospital was doing illegal sex change operations for children.
The FBI showed up at her house and questioned her about it, obviously to intimidate her.
That's what that's for, that you have the, I think it's the Tennessee Sun, I believe is the name of the newspaper.
They have exposed, they brought out the manifesto of the transgender person who attacked the Christian school here, and they brought out the manifesto, and they're coming after them.
They're saying that it's illegal.
A judge is going after the press for telling you the truth.
So people lying, people lying about the fact that they're lying, people intimidating people who tell you the truth, all to take control of this meta-territory in which images are the extension of people.
Images are the extension of people.
Now, how does this all fit together with what I was talking about about Sound of Hope and Hitman?
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Now we have a world, even before this, we have a world where you get to choose.
You always got to choose between right and wrong, but it used to be that wrong, things that we thought were wrong, had consequences.
Now those consequences have been eliminated.
You can be promiscuous.
Doesn't matter.
You know, nobody will know about it.
No kids.
Doesn't matter, except for the fact that you'll be depressed because you know you're doing something wrong, but never mind.
I take some pills.
Now you're not depressed anymore.
It's all fine.
It's all good.
You're great.
Everything is fine.
That has been eliminated.
So now we have our moral choices are just choices.
That's all they are.
And we have to decide what reality is.
And now we have a massive, massive conspiracy of power to tell us what reality is and to tell us it is what it isn't.
That is a genuinely existential place.
You know, I know a lot of people, and some of them don't believe in God, who think these are the last days, you know, who are saying like, you know, this is getting kind of demonic out here because reality has detached itself from the flesh.
Consequences have detached itself from the flesh.
And we're all living, struggling into this reality against a force, a mighty political force, which in the Bible is called the world, trying to tell us what is and isn't true, trying to tell us that what isn't true is the truth.
So let's take a final chapter look at what this means and how you have to live with it.
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Knowing Our Beliefs00:14:57
So it's K-L-A-V-A-N, as you may not have heard.
So in order to live rightly, joyfully, well in a world so detached from reality that our presence is detached from our flesh, consequences are attached.
detached from our flesh.
You have to know three things.
You have to know who you are, what you believe, and how can you live into that belief.
Because as I said before, you can call yourself a Christian, but sitting around hating people and condemning people and screaming, Christ is king, isn't going to do a jack diddly for you.
Not a thing, not a thing.
You know, you do the kind of thing you see in the movie Sound of Hope, then you're going to learn what it means to be a Christian, how hard it is, how beautiful it is, how joyful it is, and how truly, truly testing it is.
If you live into the Nietzschean vision that you are the source of reality and you are the source of morality, you're going to live a very different life, but you can live that life as well, and you're going to become that life.
And that's the division we're at.
Whenever I talk about religion, people get angry at me.
You know, I think I sound a little bit different when I talk about religion than other people.
I stand by it.
I've read the gospel on the air to show you why I think what I think.
It doesn't matter that I do that.
People get angry at me all the same.
Now, I got a comment.
Last week, I said that if God doesn't have a sense of humor about our sexuality, we're all screwed because we're all bent, you know?
And I got a letter someone wrote in the clapbacks.
I'm not going to name him because he was making a whole argument that I'm not going to address, so it's not fair to him.
But I just, there was just one line that he had.
I said, if God doesn't have a sense of humor about our sexuality, we're all screwed.
And he said, God does not have a sense of humor when it comes to sin.
And the thing about that line is I think it's untrue of God.
And I'll tell you why in a minute.
Well, I mean, Jesus was Jewish.
He had a sense of humor.
I mean, come on.
Let's just deal with reality here.
But also, you know, he said, people call me a drunkard.
They call me a glutton because he was eating and drinking.
He was dining with tax collectors and sinners.
What do you think those dinners look like?
You think it was all Jesus wagging his finger at people and scolding them like, you know, because the Pharisees said to Jesus, why are you eating with sinners?
But nobody said to the sinners, why are you eating with Jesus?
He was a good guest.
He ate, he drank, he talked, he chatted.
He was there.
I'm sure he had a sense of humor.
I'm sure God has a sense of humor.
But what bothered me about this line is it means you don't know yourself.
It means you think there's something good about you.
It means you think there's something sinless about you.
It means you think there is a righteousness about you that God doesn't need mercy to address.
And you think, well, he took care of that on the cross.
And yes, that's true, but it's also true that you have to live into that.
And if he doesn't continue to have infinite mercy and an infinite sense of humor, you are screwed.
If you don't think that God has a sense of humor, it's because you don't know who you are.
And that's the first thing you're going to have to know.
In order to know you've been misrepresented online, in order to know that somebody's put out a deep fake of you that is not who you are, you have to know who you are.
You know, my priest at church reminded us in his sermon of a quote that I often forget.
It's from the Old Testament, though it's quoted in Romans as well, where God says to Moses, I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name, the Lord, and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.
Now, maybe somebody cuts something out of my Bible, but one of the things you notice, he doesn't say, I will show mercy on whom I will show mercy, if that's all right with you.
He doesn't say that.
He says, I will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.
And I think we all have to depend on that and we don't know.
And the priest in my church went on to quote C.S. Lewis from the great divorce, where people come to heaven and they don't want to go in there because they see all the sinners are in there.
All the people they condemned are in there.
Well, I don't want to be in heaven with that sinner.
And, you know, St. Peter's like, okay, okay, that's your choice.
I think that that's a lot closer.
So in order to live in this new fake world we're going to be in, a world without consequences, a world without flesh, you have to know who you are.
You have to know who you believe in.
You have to know how to live into that belief.
And I really do believe that that is going to make cause a lot of us to have to stand alone and stand in opposition to the world.
I mean, that's what we were told was going to happen.
That's what's happening now.
We're not going to be able to wear our Christianity like a t-shirt.
We're going to have to wear it in love and charity and mercy and the kinds of things that Christ called on us to do.
We're not going to be able to condemn and convince and force people.
We're not going to be able to say, oh, you know, Trump was treated unfairly in court, which he was.
Therefore, we have to treat people unfairly in court, because that way lies nothing, lies ashes.
We are going to have to really do this thing.
The more fake the world becomes, the more real we have to become.
And most importantly, the more fake the world becomes, the more real our godliness and our faith is going to have to become if we are going to get through this into the kind of world or at least the kind of community that is the only community where the kingdom of heaven comes to life.
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It's hard to feel like I'm the only one who sees these things.
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Hold on, wants kids now.
That's about right.
What's happening with Possum Trot could mean a huge change for the system.
We want the ones that nobody else won't.
Who hurt you, baby?
I'm not giving up on you.
You can't give up on me either.
What are we gonna do?
Everybody's falling apart.
I'm doing the best I can.
The real world hits hard.
I don't want to be here.
I can't give him back.
We got to work on this together.
We young people now.
And love never gives up.
Like I said, very moving story.
It places strong family values and Christian values at its core.
It's more than just a movie.
It's a call to action.
Right now, there are over 100,000 children in foster care.
They need homes.
They need our help.
Raising awareness is how you can help today.
The best way to do that is by seeing Sound of Hope in theaters.
This is exactly how we start a movement to change the culture.
Sound of Hope is coming to theaters July 4th, and tickets are on sale now.
You can get showtimes at angel.com/slash Clavin.
Clavin clapbacks.
That was a hot mess inside a dumpster fire, inside a train wreck.
Yeah!
I don't know.
Jake Tepper never calls me anymore.
I don't know what that's about.
All right.
From Jonathan, hello, Hot Gandalf.
I'm a long time listener.
May have heard every episode you've made.
I just want to say how much I appreciate everything you do and represent.
I don't understand the growing forces on the right represented by Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.
What is going on that Christians are acting so tribal like Christian identity is almost more important than the truth.
Please expound a little more on what drives this movement and how we can work with them.
He said, I don't think they're as bad as the left, but we can work with them.
Anyway, thanks for teaching me that most things in life are tickety-boo.
And he adds, your thoughts on homosexuality helped me immensely as a Christian who wasn't quite comfortable with traditional doctrine on it.
The way you describe it carries the love and acceptance of Christ while still calling all people to be personally responsible before their Creator.
That's one of the first times I've ever heard what I said, and it sounded like actually what I said.
It makes my heart sing when I hear you preach the true gospel on the show.
God bless you, Andrew.
I can't wait to meet you, even if it has to wait till the afterlife.
Well, for me, the afterlife is not that far away.
You know, this toxic right you're talking about, who hate Jewish people and who think, you know, who scream at people and condemn people and think that their Christian identity is just like, like I said, like a team or a t-shirt is not a doctrine that needs to be transformative in your life.
They're not as bad as the left because they don't have the power of the left.
If a guy like Nick Fuentes had the universities and the TV news shows and Hollywood and the bureaucracy, it would be just as bad for America as the people who have it now.
And those people have power and so they're worse.
And so that's where the fight has to be taken.
But I don't think we can work with that.
I don't think we can work with people who hate other Americans because they're Jews or Muslims or anything else.
I mean, I think this is it.
America is a way of life.
It is an idea that depends on unspoken ideas.
It's not capitalism.
It's not the republic.
It's not the Constitution.
It's also the ideas that underlie those ideas.
And, you know, I heard somebody say, it was John Fonte, a brilliant guy who I know well, and I just think he's one of the smartest people around.
He said, you know, there's big differences between Judaism and Christianity, but the term Judeo-Christianity is intelligible.
We know what it means.
We know those values, those general values are what underlie a lot of the values that make this country.
And we're going to have to live out those values.
And it's going to be hard because when you say what's behind the movement on the toxic, right, hatred and tribalism, those are all natural things.
That's the world.
That's the world.
Illogic, the kind of illogic you get from the left, that's the world.
The thing that Christ is teaching is rational, but it's spiritual.
And that's not the world.
That is another world.
It's another kingdom, as somebody once said.
And I think that that's, we're going to have to live in that, and we're going to have to hope that we can make a stand.
I don't know if we can.
Ultimately, in the end, we know we win, but a lot of bad things can happen between that.
But it's worth doing because it is eternal.
From Austin, Dear Wise, aka 47, born circa 47 A.D. That's kind of you because it was actually 47 BC.
As a pro-life thinker who I deeply respect, I was hoping you could provide your insight on an issue. related to abortion that I've been grappling with.
It seems to me that abortion is clearly wrong, but what's less clear is what our government ought to do about it.
America was founded on the ideas of freedom and the rights of man as governing principles.
One such right is the right to autonomy over one's own body and actions.
When it comes to abortion, I'm forced to contend with the famous violinist problem.
I don't agree with that violinist thing at all.
That's where a woman wakes up and finds a famous violinist is hooked to her on a kidney machine.
Does she have the right to unplug him?
And obviously she does because she had no choice about the matter.
That's not the same as a baby.
First of all, a baby is a different body.
You are not a stranger to that body.
You are that baby's mother.
And this is the thing about a world with meaning in it.
In a world with meaning, words have meaning.
The word woman has a meaning.
The word man has a meaning.
And those are primary words, so they're hard to define.
They're not really defined by XXXY.
They're not really defined by whether you have a big gamete or a little gamete or whatever people say.
They're defined by an entire concept that the human mind and heart understands, but can't always put into words because they're primary words.
They're the words on which other words are built.
So the word woman is basic to our life.
The word man is basic to our life.
The word mother is like that.
A mother is a relationship.
You are in that relationship to your baby when it is in your body.
And it's not a violinist hooked up to a kidney machine.
It's just not the same thing.
So you're dealing with a different body that is in the relation to you of your child and is innocent and you do not have a right to kill it.
Also, all things being equal, you did create it.
You are responsible for it in a way that the person who wakes up hooked to a violinist is not.
But the idea of that philosophical idea is to erase the meaning of the word mother.
And I think that that is really the kind of thing that takes reality away from the world, like erasing the meaning of the word woman or men.
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