Ep. 1151 mocks America’s political circus—57% want Rennon’s cartoon reruns, 80% reject Biden’s "mugshot" but 80% of media deny it—while Matt Gates ousts McCarthy over "Boo-Boo the Invisible Bear," exposing GOP chaos. Klavan blames cultural collapse on divorce laws and feminism, urging conservatives to "bang their wives" and repopulate instead of grieving over Jews or "colored people." He attacks Lizzo’s "sexy" label as elite manipulation, ties trans motherhood to death, and praises Marty over modern superficiality—all while pitching Genucelle and Faith Moore’s Christmas Carol. The core message: systemic rot stems from rejecting tradition, not just politics. [Automatically generated summary]
A new spate of polls has been released showing that only about 35% of Americans want to see a rerun of the presidential race between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
Approximately 57% of Americans would rather watch a rerun of Rennon's stimpy adult party cartoon, while 65% would prefer to have one of those pimples you sometimes get on the inside of your lip, and then you forget about it and drink a glass of orange juice, and it feels like your face is full of hydrochloric acid.
Approximately 80% of people who don't work in the news media say a Biden candidacy would be inappropriate because the president's body has begun to decay and it smells bad, and yet he keeps saying Bidenomics is working in a scary whisper voice, distracting them while they're trying to hunt down a squirrel for dinner.
Conversely, 80% of those who are in the news media say they don't smell anything, and anyway, it's probably just some meat that's gone rotten in the refrigerator, and there's absolutely no evidence that Biden is as corrupt as he obviously is, so everything's fine.
Around 70% of Republicans who oppose a Trump candidacy say it's because Trump keeps making that giant frowny face so he looks like a walking mugshot, and also because he keeps posting on Truth Social about how everyone he doesn't like should be executed, and they're beginning to worry he may be serious, and also because, just look at him for crying out loud.
Would he crazy?
95% of Democrats who oppose Trump run around in circles screaming that Hitler held transsexual slaves in the American South before murdering George Floyd with fossil fuels.
Then the Democrats set off the fire alarm, explaining they were in a hurry to go to the bathroom and throw up because climate change has created so much racism that you can't even castrate your child without Republicans banning abortion.
Although Republicans denounced the Democrats for setting off the alarm, Democrats defended the action, saying they had to do it because they're completely hysterical.
Since the American people want better candidates than last time, both Democrats and Republicans are working hard to make sure the American people don't get what they want because screw them.
For instance, with polls showing voters strongly disapprove of the Democrat president, Democrats, Democrat policies, and Democrat policies made by Democrats working with the Democrat president, Republican Congressman Matt Gates has devised a brilliant plan to ensure that only Democrats are elected to office from now on.
By engineering the ouster of House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, Gates temporarily traded a likely Republican electoral victory for self-destructive, paralyzing chaos until McCarthy can be replaced by Gates' imaginary friend, Boo-Boo the Invisible Bear.
Congresswoman Nancy Mace, likewise, voted for the Gates plan, but says morning sex with her fiancé was just so fantastic that she was in a haze of afterglow and didn't know what the hell she was voting for.
In response to the McCarthy vote, congressional Democrats set off the fire alarm and ran into the street screaming about Hitler's transphobic climate change.
Meanwhile, no matter how unpopular the idea of a Trump-Biden rematch is, other candidates have not been able to make any headway.
At the last Republican debate, for example, Nikki Haley just wagged her finger and scolded people for no reason, like when your maiden aunt gets angry drunk at Thanksgiving, but is too deaf to understand what anyone is talking about.
The Vek Ramaswamy delivered an articulate and impassioned speech and is now waiting to find out what he said so he can disagree with it.
And Ron DeSantis continued to do an excellent job governing the state of Florida, thus rendering himself entirely unelectable.
Across the aisle, meanwhile, RFK Jr. has announced he's going to run as an independent.
He says his differences with the Democrat Party are irreconcilable because they're corrupt and authoritarian, whereas he's totally insane.
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Thus, no matter what the voters want, it looks like it's going to be the corpse versus the mugshot all over again.
So on your way out of the country, don't forget to set off the fire alarm.
Trigger warning.
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So last week we were talking about marriage, which is, you know, in keeping, I was talking about the things that this girl, Pearl Davis, talks about about the divorce laws and how feminism has been bad for marriage.
And yet I was defending the institution of marriage because I think it's the only thing that is going to save the country and your personal life.
And this is in keeping with my deeply unpopular idea that instead of screaming about leftists and feminists in the system, the first thing you should do while dealing in politics is take care of your own life because that's how the, remember, this is how the left won by infiltrating our institutions over the course of 50 or 60 years.
Individuals did that who actually deeply believed what in what they were selling and they infiltrated our institutions and that's how they destroyed it.
And we're not going to beat them in one or two elections.
So you have to start with your life and lead the way by the way you're living into a world fit for free men and women who act independently in little cohorts, including in marriages.
So I immediately got the nonsense response.
I don't have a lot of respect, I got to admit, for these clickbait people.
You know, I immediately got this response like, when are you going to debate Pearl Davis?
When are you going to debate Andrew Tate?
When are you going to debate Nick Fuentes?
And my response is always the same.
First of all, I don't debate because I don't care about winning an argument or gotcha things.
And I'm happy to discuss ideas with people who have ideas, but these people don't actually have ideas.
They just see things that are wrong and they use those things to feed your rage so that you will click on their content, which is fine if you want to, if that's what you want to do.
And it's always the same.
They work.
I said this last week and then it actually happened.
What they do is they say these extreme and often wicked things about minorities, about Jews, about women, whatever it is, and they feed your rage so that you will live a lonely and sad life.
And then, you know, what they do is buried in that, they have some points because they're always, it's always, you can always say, talk about what things are wrong.
So you say like, women are evil, divorce laws suck, never get married.
And so someone like me responds and says, come on, you know, women are not evil and marriage is still the best way to have a good life.
And then, you know, Pearl puts up a tweet saying, so you won't debate reforming the divorce laws.
They always retreat into this one area where they say something that makes sense.
And, you know, this is a trick.
This is a trick that all of these clickbaiters use.
And if there's one thing about, you know, Pearl and Tate and Fuenters, they're master baiters.
So fostering bitterness and anger so they get clicks and you get mired in loneliness and anger and a sense of helpless despair, because that's what comes of bitterness and anger and all that.
It's just a way of making you easy to control so they can profit off you.
And all sides use this.
Anyone, remember this, anyone can see what's wrong and anyone can use what's wrong to make you angry, angry.
And anger makes you stupid and easy to control.
This is a big rule.
This is the first rule you should learn and beat into your own head because I can't come to your house and beat it into your head for you.
Beat this into your own head.
Anyone can see what's wrong.
Anyone can use what's wrong to make you angry.
And anger makes you stupid and easy to control and easy to milk for cash.
And if you know that, you can learn to pay attention to culture and politics like free men and women instead of like chess pieces being moved around by other people for their benefit.
So let's start by looking at politics.
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Chapter 1, The Hell of Gates So here's why I think the French Revolution was a worldwide disaster and why the American Revolution was one of the greatest political moments in all of human history.
I think it's because the Americans knew who they wanted to be and the French only knew who they wanted to kill.
And that's a big difference.
You know, I have this argument with my friend Sebastian Gorka all the time, Steve Bannon, who I also know, though less well.
He has the same philosophy.
And these are not people I hate or people I have a grudge against at all.
I really like Gorka and I've always gotten along with Bannon when I see him.
These are people I like, but they both believe that the system is so screwed up that we need a berserker like Trump, usually, but other people too, to take a blowtorch to it.
And my thought is always, really?
Like, let's use our imaginations for a minute.
You burn the system to the ground.
What happens then?
Do you think like a brand new, beautiful, pristine American republic is going to grow up out of the ashes?
Or do you think we'll get decades of civil war leading to a dictatorship like they got in Rome when they burnt it all down?
They just had emperors fighting each other for the next years.
And people say, well, the beginning of the Roman Empire was actually pretty good.
And that is actually true.
The beginning of the Roman Empire was actually pretty good, but it wasn't so good if you wanted to express an opinion or you wanted to worship a god who didn't happen to be the emperor or you didn't care about being a free man.
I mean, this system is unique.
The American system is unique in its freedoms.
No one has ever been as free as we have been for the last, let's call it 50 years, for the last, really since World War II.
No one has ever been this free, I think, under any structure that was actually working.
Now, it's absolutely true.
Our culture is sick and our politics is stagnant and our Justice Department is corrupt.
Our whole justice apparatus is corrupt.
What they're doing to Trump is wrong.
What they've done to the January 6ers is wrong.
And that's not saying that crimes weren't committed.
It's not saying bad things weren't done.
It's just saying they're also being persecuted.
But just because all those things are true, and just because they make you angry, and they make me angry, and they make anyone who's paying attention angry, that doesn't mean the guy who's screaming about it has the answers.
Because he may be, especially if he's a politician or somebody who's a clickbaiter, he may be just playing your anger for his own profit, right?
That's what people do.
Anger and bitterness are starting points.
They're not destinations.
And if people depend on you to be angry, they're not helping you.
All right, so Congressman Matt Gates.
He led, I think it was seven other House Republicans, and they ousted Kevin McCarthy from the speakership.
And Steve Bannon is congratulating him.
You're causing chaos.
That's what we need.
And once there's chaos, then we can take the system apart and we'll rebuild it together.
And, you know, I'm having a hard time believing that that's what's going to happen.
Meanwhile, I have to say, on the other side, mainstream Republicans are saying, well, this is the end of Republican hopes for victory.
And Biden is so weak and the Democrats are so weak, all of which is true, that we have a real chance of beating them with almost anybody except for Donald Trump, who's going to be the hardest rock to push up that hill.
But just about anybody else could just wipe these guys out and they're making it so hard.
Now, I think the mainstream Republicans are panicking.
I think this could pass and it could work out fine.
It could be all right.
But are we really following Matt Gates down this rabbit hole?
Is he really doing this for our sake and for the sake of the kind of reform that we actually need?
Joe Biden is an utterly failed president.
I mean, the media keeps applauding.
He's passed so many bills, but they never mentioned his bills suck.
His bills are making things worse.
The economy is bad.
Inflation is bad.
The border, the things that are happening at the border are a shameful violation of the rule of law.
I don't understand why that is not an impeachable offense.
He is not defending the border.
He's actually building a wall, part of a wall now.
And he's saying, well, we have to do this, but we're also waiving all the environmental laws to do it.
But it's not going to work, but we're doing it, but we're not doing it because we said we wouldn't do it, but we're doing it.
It's an amazing piece of absurdity.
And it doesn't mean anything because he's still telling the Border Patrol not to enforce the border laws.
He's just making them do paperwork, fill out papers as you come in.
He is doing this on purpose.
And the only reason he's doing anything, I assume, is because brilliantly, finally, the Republicans at the border states are shipping these guys up to New York and up to the Democrat cities.
And all these guys who virtue signal about being sanctuary cities are suddenly saying, yeah, when we said that, we didn't mean we wanted you to come here.
We just wanted to look like we were, you know, it's kind of like Martha's Vineyard where the illegals showed up and suddenly they were painting over their signs that said no one is illegal.
All right.
So all of these things are bad and they oust Kevin McCarthy from the speakership and Gates makes speeches about it.
This is cut 11.
I don't think voting against Kevin McCarthy is chaos.
I think 33 trillion in debt is chaos.
I think that facing a $2.2 trillion annual deficit is chaos.
I think that not passing single subject spending bills is chaos.
I think the fact that we have been governed in this country since the mid-90s by continuing resolution and omnibus is chaos.
And the way to liberate ourselves from that is a series of reforms to this body that I would hope would outlast Speaker McCarthy's time here, would outlast my time here, and would outlast either of our majorities.
So you turn on the TV at this part in the movie, right?
You come in the middle of the movie, you've missed the whole movie, and you think like, wow, that guy is really making sense.
We have a 33 trillion debt and our deficit is out of control.
And these continuing resolutions, they pack them with pork and McConnell has never done anything, which is absolutely true.
McConnell is to blame for a lot of this.
Except Kevin McCarthy.
And listen, I'm not, there's no poster of Kevin McCarthy on my wall.
I expected him to be an absolute John Boehner of a disaster as Speaker of the House.
But he just wasn't.
He just wasn't.
He went about quietly doing the hard, compromising, unglamorous, unloved work of the House of Representatives, which is not a place for flamethrowers.
It's a place for negotiators.
It's a place for deals.
It's a place for small, incremental progress.
That the kind of thing I always compare to football.
You don't say, well, I only gained a yard, so I don't want that play.
No, you want every yard you can get.
And, you know, Gates and his followers, these guys who are pretending to be on the far right, I'm not sure they actually are on the far right.
I wish they were on the far right.
They're the guys who hampered a lot of this.
They're the guys who kept a lot of these bills that Biden agreed to that actually cut spending because McCarthy negotiated those bills with Biden.
They're the ones who kept them from moving forward.
And Gates has been, meanwhile, has been badgering McCarthy all this time to stifle an ethics investigation into Gates, which nobody knows exactly what it's about, but it seems to be about underage women, maybe sex trafficking, maybe money crimes.
We don't know.
And look, until the investigation comes out, maybe something.
But he has been badgering McCarthy and blaming McCarthy.
He says that McCarthy has set the dogs on him, but that's not entirely true because he was being investigated before this.
McCarthy is a dull, pleading guy, but he did okay.
I mean, to give you an example, there's an exclusive story from Newsweek written by William Arkin.
The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter Donald Trump's MAGA followers.
So MAGAs are terrorists for voting for Donald Trump, but Antifa and BLM are just great guys for burning Minneapolis to the ground and turning Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, and New York into hell.
It's infuriating.
It makes you angry.
But these are the kinds of things that McCarthy was actually working on fairly effectively, as Jim Jordan, who's now running for speaker, said, because Jim Jordan tried to save McCarthy's speakership.
And here's what he said.
Cut nine.
Because of our oversight, we know that parents were targeted by the Department of Justice.
Because of our oversight, we know that 51 former Intel officials misled the country weeks before the most important election we have.
And because of our oversight, the Disinformation Governance Board at the Department of Homeland Security is gone.
Because of our oversight, the memo attacking pro-life Catholics has been rescinded.
Because of our oversight, unannounced visits to Americans' home by the Internal Revenue Service has stopped.
That happened under Speaker McCarthy.
So that's from Jim Jordan.
He's a pretty trustworthy conservative.
He's a politician.
But he was on the show once and I interviewed him and I asked him tough questions and he explained the kinds of things that he was doing.
Meanwhile, Gates was supporting Jeb Bush before he fell in love with Trump.
So I'm not actually convinced that Gates is a man of principle who is following, doing anything but trying to save himself from an investigation and raise funds.
He's, of course, raising millions of campaign funds off this and wants to run, I think, for the governor of Florida.
The Republican Party has been awful.
They've been awful for decades.
I mean, really.
And I've told the story before of how I talked to one of the top people in the party and he told me how he was going to ignore the Tea Party.
They have been ignoring the people all this time.
They've been ignoring the attacks on our culture.
They've been ignoring the struggles of their people and of our people and the sense of right and wrong.
They're spending $33 trillion in debt.
They're $33 trillion in debt.
And if you go into debt, you lose your house.
It is right to be angry.
It is right to think we have to change things.
And if it weren't for our anger, they wouldn't do anything.
But the fact is, the fact is, we're part of the problem.
$33 trillion in debt and all the other things he said, the continuing resolutions, nobody cares.
Why?
And Trump didn't fix it.
His debt increase was second only to Obama, so Trump didn't fix it.
And when Paul Ryan did his best to fix it by going after the entitlements that are at the heart of the problem, conservatives hated him because he was soft on the border.
All right, he was soft on the border, and he was wrong, but still, still, he was the only guy to actually step on that third rail.
And Trump destroyed Ryan, you know, because he said Trump promised not to touch any of the entitlements.
So first you have to give up the entitlements.
And you know why nobody wants to give up entitlements?
And you know why nobody cares about the deficit and the debt?
It's because of me.
It's because of me.
It's because of too many people who are old, because people are old.
And by the time the debt destroys the country, and by the time entitlements destroy the country, I'm going to be with Jesus.
Okay.
I'm going to be partying with Jesus.
We're going to be passing the holy wine around.
And we're going to look down and say, what was that?
It was a little spark I just saw out in the middle of the cosmos.
Oh, that was America blowing up because of the debt.
And I'm like, eh, you know, it's too bad.
They spent a lot of money, you know, taking care of me.
The country is growing old.
Why?
Because you're not getting married and having babies.
That's exactly why.
The country is getting old because you are sitting around complaining and listening to Pearl Davis and not getting married and having babies.
Ross Douthat writes about this in the New York Times. says as the society has grown older with longer life expectancies and fewer kids, I'm quoting Ross here, their old age commitments become steadily more costly as the share of voters who benefit from those commitments and turn out to vote increases.
I'm a reliable voter and I'm getting the benefits from all these entitlements, right?
This makes it harder to fix fiscal problems and it makes the path of least political resistance the protection of the old and short-changing the young who, because they're short-changed, start fewer families and deepen societal senescence.
So we get older because you guys are getting screwed by me and therefore you're not having families.
So remember again, once again, it took 50 years for the left to destroy the country, 60 years really.
So what should you be doing that will save the country in 50 years?
Well, obviously, obviously, you should be raw dogging your wife and getting her pregnant.
Instead of listening to me, you can listen to me while you're doing it.
You should be banging your wife and getting her pregnant.
Instead of whining that the divorce laws are bad, instead of whining about feminists, don't marry a feminist.
Feminists suck.
Marry a nice Catholic girl like Pearl Davis who won't divorce you.
Put her over your shoulder, carry her into the bedroom and knock her up.
People say, you know, people always say this.
They yell at me because they say, I want to see women barefoot and pregnant.
And that's just not true.
I have nothing.
There's nothing wrong with women wearing socks.
But of course they should be pregnant.
That's what they're there for.
They should be pregnant over and over again.
And by the way, you Nazis who hate me, this is good advice for you too.
Instead of whining, you know, it's the Jews and the colored people.
Hey, leave them alone.
They've got their own problems.
You want to make more white people.
Go at it, boy.
You know, stop complaining about the Jews and make some more Christians, make some more white people.
Do it.
Do it.
Bang your wife.
Save the country.
I'm not actually kidding about this.
If you think this country sucks, and I think right now this country is in real trouble, remember it took 60 years to destroy it.
You've got 50, 60 years to take it back.
So if you're playing video games and smoking dope and watching porn, you are the problem.
If you don't like women, you think women are bad.
You don't like the state of marriage.
You don't want to give up your freedom to support children.
Get some patriotism.
Get married.
Bang your wife and knock her up.
That's it.
That's the solution.
You know, you just got to think long.
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Chapter two, Lizzo is sexy and other bulls**t.
If you don't think I'm right about this, about getting married and having kids, ask yourself, why is the left constantly trying to destroy the basis of marriage?
You know, marriage is a natural state.
It's in the first chapters of the Bible, right?
You know, that is why a man, a woman, a man leaves his home.
Is it a man leaves his home?
Yes, I'm sorry, quoting from memory, and marries his wife, and they become one flesh.
That is the basic, it's the basic building block of every society.
When somebody tells you not to get married, and I believe all the problems, I understand all the problems, you have to solve those by living your life in such a way that they don't happen, or they're less likely to happen to you.
And by the way, taking a chance on all kinds of things, you know, you take big chances for big things.
But if somebody is telling you marriage is over, they're telling you society is over.
So they're not thinking 50, 60 years down the line like the left did when they destroyed America.
If you don't think I'm right about this, ask yourself why they're always going after the most simple human values.
One of the cultural trends I've noticed recently in movies is the attempt to declare fat black women attractive.
Now, by the way, black women, I don't know why this is true, but black women are some of the nicest people I meet and some of the most attractive people I meet, actually.
And they're always calling me pet names like Boo and Sweetie, which, by the way, is the quickest way to turn me into your love slave.
I am a sucker for that.
How I've lived a faithful married life, I do not know because that's it.
I'm gone.
My heart belongs to you.
So this is not an attack on black women of any weight class whatsoever.
Here's what this is about.
I first noticed this in a genuinely bad Christmas film last Christmas called Spirited.
And conservative friends were telling me how great this was.
This was garbage.
Ebenezer Scrooge turns out to school the spirits on what's right and what's wrong.
And you shouldn't be kind and you should curse at people and all that stuff.
You know, you've got to loosen up, dude.
It's that old crap that we get from the left all the time.
You know, we're here to teach you.
We're going to teach you about things.
All those traditions, they don't mean anything.
All that old virtue.
They're always trying to destroy all the human values.
Anyway, in the middle of this, Will Farrell, talented guy, he falls for Octavia Spencer, a talented actress from the Help and Hidden Figures and other movies I'm going to see.
But she is a talented actress.
I have seen her.
But she's overweight and she's not very attractive.
And I was looking at this and just thinking, why would they make her the love interest?
Why not use someone pretty and shapely for the love interest?
It seems an easy call.
But this is a pattern now that I've seen a lot.
I was watching the excellent revival of Justified, great show.
It was called City Prime Evil.
The justified guy is sleeping with another kind of overweight black actress as the love interest.
And we all know these sad little attempts to declare that Lizzo is sexy when she's very unappealing.
And, you know, there's some comedian who said, if you think Lizzo is so sexy, go tell your girlfriend that she looks like Lizzo and see what happens.
Jordan Peterson, I remember, was excoriated when he pointed out that this fat model, Yumi knew, was not beautiful on the Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover, which she's not.
And it's not only black women, but I think that this is a type that they are going after.
Victoria's Secret went from featuring stunningly hot models to putting fat, overweight models in.
And they have to actually label the pages with these overweight models very sexy in case you had a thought of your own, like, that woman's overweight.
I'm not going to buy those bra and panties.
I don't want to look like that.
Now, obviously, I have known guys, they're guys who love overweight women.
That's great.
Nothing has nothing to do with me.
They're guys who fall for this.
And they're overweight women who are attractive.
However, however, that is not the human norm.
People always point to the painter, Peter Paul Rubens, who painted fat women with lots of cellulite and all this stuff.
And there are some extremely ancient statues that are thought to be fertility gods of these very big women, but we don't really know anything about those.
So that's hard.
But you can look at nude statues and nude paintings going back for 5,000 years.
And the sphere of attractiveness, the borderlines of attractiveness, who is attractive and who is not, is pretty narrow.
There is a human norm of what's attractive, and fat is not in it.
It's really for slender women and men.
So this is how they get you.
Pay attention, because this is the first law.
Remember, the first law is they make you angry.
Angry makes you stupid.
Stupid makes you easy to control.
And they beat you because you're being stupid.
You know, Lizzo's unattractive.
They insist that you say she's sexy or you're bigoted in some way.
So you get angry because you're being told to lie and you're being shamed for not lying.
That is what they're doing.
They're shaming you for not lying.
They did this with Jordan Peterson.
Even the Wright piled on Jordan for this.
He was absolutely right.
That woman did not belong on the front cover of a sports illustrated swimsuit issue, which men buy to see pretty girls in short, in small bathing suits.
That's why it's there.
That's why it exists.
That's its purpose.
That's its telos.
That's its reason putting a fat girl on it is not following that telos.
So you get angry, again, rightly so, and you start saying mean things about individual fat women.
She's fat, she's ugly, fat women are ugly, ugly women are fat, all this stuff, because you're pissed off and you want to tell the truth instead of being forced to lie.
And now, what happens?
You are now a mean little schmuck.
You are now insulting people who have an eating disorder.
You're insulting people over their looks, which is a, you know, I don't think I have to make this argument.
That's a nasty thing to do.
Nobody would ever do that in real life.
Nobody wouldn't do it to your friends.
You wouldn't do it to your wife if she was not looking great.
You wouldn't say, hey, honey, you're looking ugly.
And so now people can discount your opinion.
You have lost power because you've gotten angry.
So you have to hit back at these lies because these are lies.
You have to hit them back with the truth.
Because when you tell the truth, you can find deeper truths.
When you tell the truths about the way people look, then you can start to find deeper truths about the way people are.
Because plenty of beautiful women are not beautiful inside.
Plenty of handsome men are not handsome inside.
We all know that.
We all know that's not the most important thing about anybody.
But people are beautiful in stories because their beauty represents inner beauty, right?
That's how a story works.
That's how visuals work.
Venus in paintings is beautiful because she represents arrows and arrows is beautiful.
Aphrodite is beautiful because she represents wisdom and wisdom is beautiful.
Sleeping beauty is beautiful because that represents sleeping femininity, the young woman becoming into womanhood, the young girl coming into womanhood, and femininity is beautiful even in the ugliest women.
In fact, feminine women become a lot more attractive once you get to know them.
So once you know that beauty is only skin deep, and you want to, let's say you want to tell a story about that, okay?
Let me tell you a story, and I will bet this is a classic movie, and I will bet nobody back in the engineering room, many of them are movie fans, except Jonesy maybe, has ever seen this movie or heard of this movie, a movie called Marty.
Movie made in 1955.
It won the Oscar.
It was written by a famous writer, Patty Tchajevsky.
He was a horrible human being, but he was an interesting writer.
And some of the stuff he did was really good.
I think this was his first film.
And it's a beautiful, beautiful film.
And it stars Ernest Borgnine.
I don't know if you've ever heard of him.
He went on to have a hit TV comedy when I was a little kid called Mikhail's Navy.
And he's a kind of toad-like looking man, right?
Now, all the men who listen to Pearl Davis and think, oh, I'll never get married and marriage is hard and women are terrible and all this should watch Marty.
They should go and watch Marty because it's more relevant than anything you're going to hear online from her or any of these red pill people.
Marty is a butcher.
He's an ordinary guy.
You know, he's not the best guy.
He can't find a girl because he's ugly and he keeps getting treated badly by women because they want to go out with the handsome guy, the rich guy, the guy who's not a butcher.
And his mom is always nagging him.
Go to the dance hall.
They had dance halls then and meet a girl.
But he says he's been rejected too many times.
Here's the scene with his mom.
It's cut one.
You're going to die without a son.
I'll die without a son.
Marty, put on the blue suit, huh?
Blue suit, gray suit.
I'm just a fat little man, a fat, ugly man.
You're not ugly.
I'm ugly.
Ma, leave me alone.
Ma, what do you want from me?
What do you want from me?
I'm miserable enough as it is.
That's a very famous line.
It comes up later in the movie.
I'm a fat, ugly little man.
And it's shocking.
It's shocking.
You know, that's what we're watching a movie about.
We're watching a movie about a fat, ugly little man.
But notice the thing that he doesn't say.
He doesn't say, I'm not ugly.
Fat is not ugly.
He tells the truth.
Why?
Because only with the truth can you get to the deeper truth.
Finally, he does go out, his mom insists, and he meets an ugly woman.
She's a plain woman.
And unlike in our movies when they have a plain woman and they just kind of like give some gorgeous actress limp hair, this woman is really not that attractive.
And they dance together at the dance hall and they like each other.
And this is, it's just a beautiful movie.
As I was watching clips, I was choking up over it.
It was cut to.
All my brothers, my brothers-in-law, they're always telling me what a good-hearted guy I am.
You don't get to be good-hearted by accident.
You get kicked around long enough here.
You get to be a real professor of pain.
I know exactly how you feel.
And I also want you to know I'm having a very good time with you right now and really enjoying myself.
You see, you're not such a dog as you think you are.
I'm having a very good time, too.
So there you are.
So I guess I'm not such a dog as I think I am.
No, you're a very nice guy.
I don't know why some girl hasn't grabbed you off long ago.
I don't know either.
I think I'm a very nice guy.
I also think I'm a pretty smart guy in my own way.
Excuse me.
You know how I figure two people get married and they're going to live together 40, 50 years, so it's got to be more than whether they're just good-looking or not.
Bingo, bingo, it's got to be more.
You know, this is what gets me about all these guys who talk about marriage and the women want a high-value woman, a high-value man, by which they mean rich and successful, and the man only wants a girl.
And he's saying these people together for 40 or 50 years.
Maybe it's about more than that.
But notice what he says.
And again, this is an Oscar winning film that nobody talks about anymore.
He talks about the fact that suffering has made him kind.
That suffering has taught him to be a good-hearted person because he's become a professor of pain.
Because he's ugly, because he's fat, because women have mistreated him.
Has he become an angry guy sitting in his mother's basement watching pornography and listening to Pearl Davis and saying, oh yeah, it's women, it's women.
No, he understands that this is part of life.
This is a human value.
And he hasn't got, he didn't get a break.
He got a bad break and it has made him compassionate, wise, and kind so that when he sees a girl who is also not that attractive, he can see into her.
He can see that she is more beautiful than she looks because stories are only stories.
And when you start with the truth, which is that some people are beautiful and some people are not, when you start with the truth, you get to wisdom.
You get to suffering and you get to wisdom.
People don't like suffering, but that's, you know, it's like everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die.
Everyone wants to become wise, but nobody wants to suffer.
It's the same damn thing.
When you tell us ugliness is beautiful, you basically make people entitled to feel like you should be attracted to them.
I hear this all the time.
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If you're not attracted to a trans person, you're transphobic.
My feeling is, yeah, you can beat that drum till you die.
I'm not going to be attracted to that because it's not attractive.
It's awful.
It's obviously some kind of mental problem.
So when you teach people a falsehood, when you teach them that they deserve people's admiration, they deserve to be whistled at or they deserve to be the models in underwear ads, which are basically made to make people feel they'll look beautiful.
You make them feel resentful when that doesn't happen.
That's why all these trans people, these make-believe women who are actually men, that's why they're violent and angry and why they're threatening the people here with death, because they feel they're entitled to lie themselves into another life that they can't because they will not grasp the truth.
So, you know, the truth leads to suffering, it does.
Suffering leads to wisdom.
Wisdom leads to compassion.
Sometimes compassion leads to loving kindness.
And then you have a beautiful life, right?
Entitlement leads to resentment.
You get bitter, you get angry, you end up alone.
And worse than, let's look at how this goes even further to this assault in our culture on womanhood and femininity.
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Chapter 3, Women Without Womanhood.
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So continuing on this thought, in stories, in stories, we like to see pretty people play at romance because it symbolizes their inner beauty and the real romance that we want.
And when you fall in love, you do kind of feel better about yourself, right?
You feel like you're valuable.
You're valuable to somebody.
Somebody is willing to marry you.
Somebody is willing to love you.
Somebody cares about you.
And that obviously lifts you up.
It's a wonderful thing.
You know, that's why, because there are all kinds of stories.
Remember, our culture is all stories.
That's what a culture is.
A culture is stories that are either true and therefore lead to, you know, freedom and happiness, or they're false and they lead to misery and despair.
Socialism is a false story, right?
Capitalism is a true story as far as it goes economically, and that will lead to more success.
You tell false stories, you go down the drain, you tell true stories, you do well.
But there are all kinds of stories.
So for instance, this is why we're getting this silliness about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.
Travis Kelsey is the Kansas City Chiefs tight end.
And, you know, I'm sure she has a lovely backside too.
I'm not trying to be prejudiced here.
But obviously they seem to be dating.
And I'm a big NFL fan.
So Sunday night, I'm watching Sunday night football.
And suddenly it's like watching Girls Night Out.
This is like Mike and Chris, two of my favorite announcers.
I love them.
I look forward to seeing them every Sunday.
What do they call it?
They're my parasocial relationship.
Suddenly they're talking, Taylor Swift is in the house, and I got to listen to this as cut five.
Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey on NBC's Sunday Night Football.
Oh, and yeah, she's here.
Taylor is in the house.
And we thank you for having us into your house.
Mike Dirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Start.
Hi, Swifties.
We'll be with you all night.
Chris Collinsworth looks like he wishes he was in the next state.
I mean, it's like, oh, she's here.
I'm like, throw the dick out, do that kickoff.
What the hell am I listening to this for?
We're giggly because it's a story.
It's a story.
He's a handsome guy.
She's a pretty girl.
They're famous.
We have parasocial relationships with them.
In real life, in real life, just clear your mind for a minute.
Who gives a rat's ass who Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are sleeping with?
Taylor Swift, as far as I can tell, and I like Taylor Swift.
I think she sings nice little songs.
I'm not trying to attack her, but she, it seems to me, every six months is sleeping with some other guy who's obviously going to ditch her at some point.
I mean, she constantly is sleeping with guys who go like, really, really?
But she's a mess.
She's an entertainer.
She's a performer.
Artists, performers are crazy people.
She's a mess.
If we take them literally, then you start, this is a real problem in our culture.
I'm not making this up.
Then you start to live that life.
You start to think that life is for you.
Now, these people have so much money that when they get STDs or they have unwanted pregnancies or anything that they, they can do anything they want.
They can cover up for all their mistakes.
And if it means an abortion and it means taking medicine, it's not going to matter to them because they're already nuts.
These are people, people living as entertainers are almost all crazy.
They are not you.
They're not living an actual life.
They are just representatives.
They're just like Sleeping Beauty in the Disney cartoons.
They're as alive as they are, as far as you're concerned.
And so if you take them literally, you start thinking that that's a way to live.
Every six months you have another relationship and it's all about how pretty, oh, and oh, she's in the house and how giggly it all is.
It has nothing to do with that.
Obviously, relationships, Marty is a far more honest depiction of what a real relationship is like for 99.9% of it.
And I'm not saying that their relationships are better.
Most of them end up pretty miserable, these stars and these celebrities.
They end up pretty miserable and pretty unhappy because their marriages fall apart and they still have children.
Their children still get hurt just like other children do.
But if you live like that, you know, there was this baseball pitcher, Trevor Bauer.
I don't know if you saw this.
He's been me too and he has been in all these lawsuits.
A couple of times he's been accused of assaulting women.
And he was in a crawsuit with this woman, woman who accused him of strangling her and doing all this stuff.
And one of these suits went on and on and on.
And it turned out that this woman was a femme fatale.
I mean, she was a literal femme fatale who had planned with one of her friends to get her hands on this guy's money by talking him into rough sex and then accusing him of assaulting her.
And he had, he came on X, I guess, and had the proof that he had finally gotten of texts with her friends where they were setting this up.
Here's a brief clip of that.
Next victim, star pitcher for the Dodgers.
A text Lindsay Hill sent to a friend before she ever even met me.
What should I steal?
She asked another in reference to visiting my house for the first time.
The answer, take his money.
So how might that work?
I'm going to his house Wednesday, she said.
I already have my hooks in.
You know how I roll.
Then after the first time we met, net worth is 51 mil, she said.
Bitch, you better secure the bag, was the response.
But how is she going to do that?
Need daddy to choke me out, she said.
Being an absolute whore to try to get in on his 51 million, read another text.
Then after the second time we met, former Padres pitcher Jacob Nix told her, you got to get this bag.
I'll give you 50,000, Lindsay replied.
Her AA sponsor asked her at one point, do you feel a tiny bit guilty?
Not really, she replied.
All right.
So now, I saw a lot of this.
Some conservatives come out and they say, this is a horrible, horrible woman who should be in prison.
Well, yeah, I think that that is absolutely right.
She's a horrible, horrible woman.
And other guys were like, you know, see what I mean?
You know, men, they get the short.
This horrible thing happened to him and blah, And I thought, you know, okay, okay, you know, he's a horrible woman.
He got nailed and that's not fair.
And then this Me Too thing, obviously, it had a lot of witch hunt components to it.
But can anybody think how Trevor Bauer could have avoided this situation altogether?
Let's take a moment.
Let's all take a moment and put our thinking, put those little caps on, you know, the little thinking caps with little electrodes on them, and just see if we can spark our brains and think of some way that this didn't have to happen.
You live in a material life and you get the material results.
You live in a material life and you lay aside every human value, which is what the left is trying to get you to do.
See, this is what gets me about it.
You fall into the pit that they dig for you and then say, I'm in a pit and life sucks.
Yes, it does.
Yes, it does.
Because they pointed out what's wrong.
They made you angry and then they got you.
They got you.
They dragged you into their values while you weren't paying attention.
See, this is the whole scam.
The thing is, it's the values that matter.
If you're a value, I'm not saying everything is going to go great for you if your values are right.
Please don't, please do not tell me that that's what I'm saying.
I understand, you know, Jesus was a great guy and look what happened to him.
That's not the way it works, right?
But still, still live by true values, live by real values, relate to God, relate to the guy who made you and who made you in his image.
You're going to have a different life.
You're going to have a different life than if you live like this.
If you wake up next to some girl that you don't know and she's out to get your money, I sympathize, sort of, but I have to think like that didn't have to happen.
You didn't have to do that.
And this is why people dislike me.
Look at me.
I'm the most lovable human being on earth.
Ask my step.
No, don't ask my step, but ask somebody who doesn't know me.
I am one of the most lovable people on earth.
And people get angry at me because I keep saying, you got to start with you.
That's all the material you've got.
All the material you've got that you have control over is you, right?
So you got to start with this.
If you treat your body like it doesn't matter, like it's a sex toy, you're going to get the things that sex toys get.
You're going to get boned, basically.
You know, here's another one, an extension of this.
This is actually kind of the same thing.
I'm kind of enjoying this show on Apple TV called Silo, and it's based on Wool, which I think was an internet sensation.
And it's made by Graham Yost, who also did Justified.
So, I mean, he's got some values.
And the show is entertaining.
I'm not going to tell you it's great, but it's an entertaining sci-fi type of show.
And it's got Rebecca Ferguson, who's a very talented Swedish actress, I think.
And like I said, I'm enjoying it.
But the main character played by Sarah Ferguson, who's this little wisp of a girl, very lovely, she's a man.
In the story, she is a man.
I mean, in the story, she's a woman, but in real life, she'd be a man.
She solves her problems by fixing things.
That's a man thing.
That's what men do.
Men solve their problems by taking it out on things.
It's not what women do.
Women address their problems much more directly.
She gets into fights.
She punches people in the nose.
She climbs up on things hand over hand.
And then they lift up a big thing and she fixes it and screws it in.
She's a man.
She's a man.
That's all of it, what men do in hero situations that require great strength that she wouldn't have.
Okay.
Now, again, this is the stuff that makes women listeners, some women listeners, angry at me.
When I said, for instance, that women can't win a medieval sword fight, which they can't.
They simply can't.
They would be overpowered, killed within seconds.
Like I said, the guy wouldn't even kill them.
He would just walk through them to get to the guy with the sword in back of them.
Heroines all have to be strong.
And when they say strong, they don't mean strong like a woman having a baby.
They don't mean strong like a woman facing the death of a friend.
They don't mean strong like a woman standing up when her husband is collapsing because he's got too many troubles.
They don't mean a woman sticking by a guy when he's got nothing and when he's fallen apart, which I've experienced in my own life.
They don't mean that kind of strong.
They mean strong with her hands on her hips and punching people in the nose so that they fall down.
They're not flattering you, ladies.
They are not flattering you when they do that.
They are stripping you of your womanhood.
They are stripping you of what makes you you.
They're accepting the materialist value, and this is the value of materialism, that the highest good is power.
And if you don't have power, you are less than the people who do, as opposed to the spiritual value of femininity, which is the highest good is love.
And therefore, a mother is participating in the highest good.
One of the symbols of our, maybe the symbol of our highest humanity, is Mary in the Bible, the Virgin Mary who gives birth to Jesus.
And you know, what happens if you don't honor Mary, who is womanhood as chaste and fertile and the giver of life, the giver of humanity, you get the opposite of that, which is this guy.
You play the cut of this is a trans influencer, Rihanna Rose.
I will let a doctor who has successfully transplanted a uterine complex before, cut the organs out of a willing, healthy, transmasculine donor, place them in my body.
I will devote myself heart and soul to their aftercare.
I will have as much gay sex as it takes with as many trans women as it takes.
And let the transphobes and homophobes scratch their heads wondering what to make of it.
And I want to be the first trans woman to have an abortion.
Right.
We have let these people, and I'm not saying you, each individual, these are people who have taken over our culture over 60 years.
They infiltrated our culture with their beliefs because they knew what they believed or we just knew we wanted to stop them.
That's all we knew.
They knew who they wanted to be.
We knew who we wanted to kill.
And that's why they were successful.
They have done everything they can to overturn human values, human values of beauty, human values of love, human values of gender, human values of creation.
When you get the highest human value is life, and when you get rid of all the human values, you end up in love with death.
Take a woman, make him a man, then give him the power to give birth so he can kill the child.
I mean, if that's not a depiction of being in love with death, you remember what God says in the Bible, I'm putting before you life and death, choose life so that you may live.
They have done the opposite, and they're getting you and me to do the opposite too.
We shouldn't be fighting with them.
We should be taking the country and the culture back one day at a time, one person at a time.
And the first person is you.
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Final chapter, Death by Illusion.
So let's go back to our sacred rule, right?
Injustice makes you angry.
Anger makes you stupid.
Stupidity makes you easy to manipulate.
So when the people tell you there's an injustice, the next thing you should be thinking is, well, what are we going to do about it?
Not like making a big fuss, not like going on cable news, not making a show.
What are we going to do about it?
What's the hard work of doing things?
Because one of the reasons I think I sometimes get into minor battles with loudmouths online, I usually ignore them, but sometimes they draw me out, is because I'm not a revolutionary.
I am a reformer.
And reform takes hard work.
And the hard work begins with you, and you have to do stuff, and you have to, you know, make compromises.
You have to get in and sort of fix the engine and all that stuff.
And that's really hard to do.
You know, I hear all these people, all these revolutionaries attacking the Daily Wire, one of the most successful cultural vehicles for the right that's ever been invented ever.
And they're, you know, they insult us for all the things that we don't do or for making money and all that stuff, but they ain't doing nothing.
They're just putting on a show.
And this is actually, we've actually had an effect, not just on politics, but on the culture too, because it happened day at a time.
We came in one day at a time.
We did the work.
We did it at every level.
You know, we're just guys like me and Ben and Knowles.
We're just the faces of it.
All these people behind the scenes who did the work of getting this thing up and running.
And that's what you have to do.
I don't know if anybody remembers the movie Seven.
I thought it was a bad script, but I thought it was a really brilliantly directed crime movie.
And it's about a serial killer who kills according to the seven deadly sins.
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And the last one is wrath.
And he entices somebody into shooting him so that he takes his vengeance on the very people who are trying to stop them.
And that's the situation we're in right now.
It's romantic to be a revolutionary.
It makes good podcast bait.
It makes good clickbait.
But the hard work begins with you and then goes into the little things around you, the places around you that you can affect, that you can have an affect your school system, your children especially.
The system is bad.
It's bad.
Our institutions are rotten.
The Democrats are truly on the road to a philosophy of genuine wickedness, of calling evil good and good evil.
But what do you think happens if we just burn it down?
What do you think happens if we just go after every flamethrower who appeases our anger?
What do you think is going to happen?
Use your imagination.
It's not just going to grow back the way you want it.
You're going to have handed your country and your freedom and your future over to the people who inflamed your rage and who have nothing but that flaming rage to give you.
You know, you think that you're going to get something out of Andrew Tate.
It drives me crazy, especially for the young guys because he's really harmful to them.
He's a pimp.
That should be like the skull on the guy's hat in the video about are we the baddies.
You know, you're following a pimp.
He's an admitted pimp.
I'm not accusing him of anything.
You know, you're not going to end up strutting around like, you know, James Bond.
If you get rid of marriage, if you hate on women, you think you're going to end up like James Bond giving plenty auto to pussy galore.
You know, that's not what's going to happen.
You're going to end up alone.
You're going to end up defeated.
You're going to end up in despair.
It is not a good look for your future.
Use your imagination.
This is the thing.
I get it.
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I get how bad the system is.
I do understand that there's danger.
I have said a million times, way before any of these red-pilled people existed, I said that a marriage under the rule of no-fault divorce is not a marriage.
That's one of the reasons I said you had no right to attack gay people.
It wasn't gay people who ruined marriage.
It was straight people with that kind of stuff.
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Start to reform it.
Work to reform it.
Don't yell at me about it.
It's not my issue.
I'm having a great marriage.
A great time.
If you don't like it, stop it.
And remember, it's a long fight.
This is the thing that nobody, everybody says, the most important election of your lifetime.
There is no most important election of your lifetime.
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They're real.
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I get it.
I know they're there.
But getting in, getting people who can actually govern and do the work of governing and do the work of negotiation, and then creating the generations.
I don't believe in revolutions because they almost never work.
There's one revolution that works and it takes a long time.
And that revolution is having children.
Having children.
Make yourself into somebody who can get married, get married, bang your wife, save the country.
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In your fantastic interview with Vodi Bacham, you seem to throw a little shade at the Virgin Mary and also on the Catholic understanding of celibacy.
Celibacy is always understood to be giving up a great good like marriage and family life for the sake of a greater good, which is full service to God.
The Virgin Mary is understood to be the ark of the new covenant because she carried Jesus Christ.
Why would he not care about her purity ever after he was born?
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Well, thank you, Anne, Marie.
First of all, I'm not casting shade on Catholicism.
I am a Catholic.
I'm an Anglican Catholic, and I know for Roman Catholics, they feel it's not enough, but it is the right thing for me.
And my theology is almost entirely Catholic, although it only goes up to about 400 AD.
That's where we stop.
But one beef I have with Catholic defenders is they pretend that the theology of Catholicism has never changed.
And that's simply not true.
One of the things that the church wrestled with mightily during the Middle Ages was whether virginity was better than the married state.
And, you know, in Paul, he does have this line, better to marry than to burn.
And I said devotee, you know, not exactly a ringing endorsement.
And so this has changed, and the attitude towards sex has changed.
And John Paul, I'm familiar with John Paul II's thought on this, about the theology of the body and all this stuff.
But it has actually shifted to pay more tribute to the married life and to the sexual life.
And as for the Virgin Mary, I have a problem with the idea of purity in a wife, including virginity.
That's my problem with it.
I wasn't there.
I don't know what the Virgin Mary's private life was like.
That's not really my point.
My point is, is it pure for a wife to be a virgin?
Would that actually be a good thing?
And that's something I do question.
In Anglican Catholicism, you don't have to believe that.
It's considered a good belief, but you don't have to believe it.
From Dri Eno, but all of this is with respect, by the way.
I understand the doctrine and totally respect it.
Dri Eno says, as a Daily Wire Plus member, I look forward to your show every week.
This week, your thoughts about marriage being about love was really good, but you said that the picture of Christ in the church wasn't a good enough explanation for a reason to get married since the picture of Christ's love for his church and his sacrifice for his church is the greatest love story the world has ever seen.
How does this not provide a good picture of marriage?
Well, my only point about it is I said that it does.
I said that a great marriage ultimately does come to look like Christ's love for the church.
I actually did say that, but my point was that that's not why people get married.
You don't look at a woman and say, you know, there's a woman I could love like Christ loves the church.
You know, that's not the way it works.
I mean, I'm just trying to be a little realistic here.
Samuel says, I wanted to give everyone a friendly reminder to read your Cameron Winter books if they haven't already.
I just reread When Christmas Comes in Preparation for the Upcoming Release of The House of Love and Death.
I promise I didn't write this.
And it was even better on a reread.
My books are better on a reread.
By the way, you're not the first person to say it.
As someone who has read most of your back catalog of books, I can say with authority that this is some of the best books you have ever produced.
See this?
I do not flatter.
He says, I merely and meekly tell the truth.
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