Ep. 1078 skewers Biden’s PR failures—blaming "FDR with dementia" slogans and West Wing delusions—while mocking leftist backlash to Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover as proof conservatives now define "cool." It dissects Amazon’s censorship of Matt Walsh’s Johnny the Walrus, ties gender theory to Silence of the Lambs’ materialism, and debates Disney’s First Amendment rights after DeSantis’ tax district revocation. Mailbag letters tackle faith vs. family-building, a brother’s $150K stock crash, and grief over stillbirth, all framed through a lens of divine order over progressive chaos. The episode ends with a jab at White House disinformation—proving the left’s panic mirrors its decline. [Automatically generated summary]
Top thinkers in the Biden administration are gathering with other brain-dead mediocrities to discuss how to improve White House public relations.
Popular support for the administration has fallen to the level of that scene in Dante's Inferno where two guys are frozen together in an endless wasteland of ice and one guy is doomed to feed on the other guy's head forever.
Except in the case of people who support Biden, the two remaining guys are Brian Stelter and Adam Schiff, and Schiff's head tastes like crap for some reason.
To remedy this problem, the Biden PR team has taken a close look at out-of-control government spending, out-of-control inflation, out-of-control crime, out-of-control illegal immigration, supply shortages, meaningless but oppressive Chinese virus restrictions,
racist equity policies, reports of massive corruption in the Biden family's influence peddling operation, the disaster in Afghanistan, and the attempt by a politicized justice department to criminalize parents for defending their children against sex grooming perverts in public schools, and they've decided the problem is messaging.
According to Biden public relations director Lola Lowlife, quote, our mission is to turn the president's approval ratings around without actually accomplishing anything or improving anybody's life.
After all, if we can convince the American people that Rachel Levine is a woman, surely we can sell them on the idea that this administration is doing a great job.
And when I say convince the American people, I mean win insincere applause from the 6% of the population with the largest media profiles, namely wealthy white people and their black frontmen who'll fall for any woke virtue signaling scam we come up with because it makes them feel their lives aren't moral wastelands of unearned privilege and absurd posturing ratified by blithering op-eds from the credentialed adolescents of the New York Times who still think they're shaping the culture because they never leave Park Slope,
Brooklyn and travel someplace where people don't give a damn what they think, like just about everywhere outside of Parkslope, Brooklyn.
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In order to change America's opinion of the president from a nightmarish, open-mouthed expression of wordless horror, like in that Eduard Monk painting The Scream, Ms. Lowlife and her fellow Lowlifes are experimenting with various new ways to present the administration's disastrous failures as fun, or at least not life-threatening.
For instance, Ms. Lowlife says they're trying out some exciting new slogans like, Joe Biden, he's just like FDR, except corrupt and with dementia.
Or, vote Democrat because all the other communists are dead.
Or Biden Harris, there's nowhere to go but up.
The PR, quote, brain-unquote trust will also explore the possibility of producing movies and TV shows that change the president's image, as they did during the Clinton administration with the film The American President, which showed a Democrat president as a gentlemanly lover instead of a feckless womanizer, or Independence Day, which showed a Democrat president as a fighter pilot instead of a draft dodger, or the West Wing, which showed a Democrat president as a good president instead of a Democrat president.
If these strategies don't work, the Public Relations Committee may try changing the minds of young people through music with hep and groovy new pop songs that include lyrics like, ooh baby, I love me some Prez, he's nowhere near as sucky as everyone says.
Things may look bad now, but just you wait, he can't live forever.
He's already 80.
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It is a joy and honor to begin today's program on the op-ed section of the New York Times, or as we like to call it, Knucklehead Row.
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So Michelle Goldberg is one of the biggest knuckleheads on Knucklehead Row.
She's a total buy-the-book leftist feminist, and she has got a real problem.
She is getting red-pilled in real time.
She doesn't know this yet.
I'm just telling you this because I can see it happening to her.
She's getting red-pilled in real time.
But of course, if she takes the pill, she loses everything.
She'll lose her job.
She'll lose her friends.
Who knows?
She may even lose her marriage if she suddenly sees that what she's not allowed to see, right, that the conservatives are in the right and everything that the New York Times has been selling is untrue.
She's like Cipher in the Matrix.
Remember that he's the guy who doesn't take the red pill.
He says, no, I want to go back into the Matrix because it's more fun to live in a fantasy.
So she's going to have to do that too.
The other day on the show, we read her op-ed in which she started to understand, she started to get this glimmer that promiscuity might not be that good for women.
You know, feminist promiscuity might not be that good for women.
It's almost as if conservatives had been right about this all the time.
See, leftists can never say that.
They just kind of move on as if we never said anything.
But they just suddenly think like, you know, maybe God is three persons, father, son, and you know, why has nobody ever thought of that before?
So remember now, I read this piece by Michelle Goldberg where she said that a woman was upset because her boyfriend was strangling her during sex, but she didn't know if it was judgmental to tell him that she didn't like being strangled.
You know, that's how far feminists have convinced women.
It's like the old days, men used to seduce women by saying, you're being cruel when I'm burning for you.
How could you be so cruel as to turn me away?
And women would fall for that because women are designed to fall for things or else the race dies.
So now they're falling for this, you know, be non-judgmental.
Oh, you want to strangle me?
Okay, you know, you want to murder me?
I don't want to say anything.
I don't want to say it to be judgmental.
So now, that was before, now Michelle Goldberg has realized the worst possible thing is happening.
The thing, the one thing that they thought could never happen, which is that the left is no longer cool and we on the right are.
She's got a column called The Awful Advent of Reactionary Chic.
I mean, what could be, they're wrong about everything.
The one thing they've got is they've got like SNL is for them and Hollywood is for them.
And, you know, and the Met Gala, the Met Gala is now called Gilded Glamour.
That's their theme, Gilded Glamour.
So that's for them.
I want to see how fancy your dress can be when you write tax the rich on it.
All this stuff is old.
It's boomer stuff, right?
So it's the conservatives who are now hepcats and groovy, right?
So she quotes, all she does is she quotes articles about this from other places because she can't leave her apartment and go outside.
Then she wouldn't be a New York Times journalist.
So here's what she says.
She says, according to Vanity Fair, the conservative movement, quote, has become quietly edgy and cool in new tech outposts like Miami and Austin and in downtown Manhattan, where new right-ish politics are in.
And get this, signifiers like a demure cross necklace have become markers of transgressive chic.
Now, this is, I mean, this is really dangerous.
If believing in God, if believing in Jesus Christ becomes cool, the left is finished.
You know, it's like first we find out that sleeping with people isn't such a good idea, that promiscuity isn't such a good idea.
And then next we find out that sex is for marriage.
What will we do then?
So, all right, it goes on.
It's pretty clear, she says, that there's cultural energy in the opposition to the progressive norms and taboos that are derisively called wokeness.
The BuzzFeed newswriter Joseph Bernstein captured this energy in a March article about an anti-woke New York film festival funded by Peter Thiel and headed by a black queer provocateur named Trevor Baziel.
Call it if you must, a vibe shift, says BuzzFeed.
A new generation of internet native tastemakers like many of the people crowded into Bazile's party who find the moralistic gatekeeping of millennials all a bit passe.
This vibe shift was predictable.
When the left becomes grimly censorious, it incubates its own opposition.
The internet makes things worse, giving the whole world a taste of irritating progressive sanctimony.
Now, she pretends this is only happening online because this is the thing.
You know, the left will say, yeah, I don't agree with that either.
I just vote for them.
I vote for them, but I'm voting for Joe Biden because he's going to bring normalcy back, you know, and then it all becomes left.
It all becomes left-wing.
Joe Biden is just the mask of leftism that the Democrat Party has put on, and he doesn't even know he's there anymore.
She goes on to say, I suspect this shift where we're hip, where conservatives are the hip people, can last only so long as the right isn't in power nationally.
Eventually, an avant-garde flirtation with reaction will collide with the brutish Philistine reality of conservative rule.
You brutish Philistines, you brutish Philistines.
Maybe we should use the old word for Philistine, which was Palestinian, which is actually the translation of that.
But she's not judgmental or woke herself or anything.
She just thinks you're a brutish Philistine.
And also, by the way, by the way, you can't possibly have original ideas.
You can't possibly actually be cool because you're just reacting to them.
You don't have any ideas of your own.
You're just reacting to them.
She goes on more knucklehead.
She says, in the short term, however, it's frightening to think that backlash politics could become somehow fashionable.
It's all backlash.
It's just a reaction to them.
It's nothing fresh.
It couldn't possibly be time-tested truths that keep coming back, the gods of the copybook heading that have returned.
She goes on, she says, especially given how stagnant the left appears in New York magazine, Sam Adler Bell recently wrote about a dispiriting lull in progressive movement building.
There appears almost no grassroots energy or urgency of any kind on the Democratic side.
The one thing the left could count on, says Michelle, in recent years, is its cultural capital.
What happens if our cultural capital is squandered?
What indeed?
Here's Michelle's problem, though.
You can't be cool if you're uncool.
You can't be cool if every opinion that's not yours is evil.
That is the opposite of cool.
Being cool means being able to take everything as it comes, to take each person as he comes, to take the changes of life, the craziness of American life as it comes.
Every single person who walks into the Daily Wire from the left comes to me.
I don't know why me, but they always come to me and say, everybody's so nice here.
Everybody's so nice here.
Dave Rubin came over from the left to the right because he said we were much more welcoming to gay people than the left was.
If you are not cool, if you are not cool, you can't be cool.
And you know, the thing is, you know, these guys are not liberals.
All the liberals are on the right now.
All the liberals are on the conservative side.
By liberals, I mean people who want America to be free.
If you want America to be free, it's got to be moral.
If you want to be moral, it's going to have to have some version of God because that's the way you get to morality.
People who are moral, plenty of people who are moral without having God, but they're just being tugged along in the wake of the God movement.
You need that little cross as a little bit of a countercultural gesture.
But the thing is, I can deal with liberals.
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I can compromise with people who want a little bit of a welfare state.
We can debate about how much there's going to be.
But the left, the woestersters, they have got to go because they are just uncool.
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So now that conservatives are the cool kids, I think that we can all agree, obviously, that I am the mascot of cool.
I think I'm the obvious leader of the HepCat groovy conservative party.
And I can say authoritatively, as in that position, as king of COOL, I think I can say that the coolest thing about America is free speech, right?
Because free speech indicates the fact that we get it.
You know, we get it.
People are different.
People disagree.
You have one opinion.
I have another opinion.
Just stay away from my kids.
That's it.
Other than that, we're cool, right?
If you want to see the essence, the definition, the heart, the absolute model of uncool, all you have to do is look at the insane way.
I mean, it is insane way that the left reacted to Elon Musk when Twitter took his offer.
He got financing for like a $44 billion offer.
I think he just takes that out of his piggy bank.
He just opens his piggy bank and takes that out.
And here is what Elon Musk says that he wants to do on Twitter.
It's not that he wants hate speech to thrive.
Here's what he says, CUP 31.
In a case where there's perhaps a lot of controversy, that you would not want to necessarily promote that tweet.
I have all the answers here.
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But I do think that we want to be just very reluctant to delete things and have just be very cautious with permanent bans.
Timeouts, I think, are better than sort of permanent bans.
But just in general, like I said, it won't be perfect, but I think we want to really have, like I said, the perception and reality that speech is as free as reasonably possible.
And a good sign as to whether there is free speech is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like.
Someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like is the essence of free speech.
And it's also, by the way, the essence of cool.
I mean, that is what makes you cool when you can live in a world where someone you don't like says things that you don't like, right?
So that's all he's talking about.
We all sort of agree that we don't want people slinging racial slurs at one another.
But any opinion, remember, any opinion that you want to say, you should be able to say on Twitter or any other social media.
So let's look at the way the left just heard.
You just heard what he said out of the words of the mouth of the guy who's now going to own Twitter.
Here is Scott Galloway, the former anchor from the former CNN Plus, maybe the quickest job in human history.
Here's what he heard when Elon Musk said this.
This is cut five.
I think he uses the First Amendment as some blanket call sign to rally people on the right, which absolutely makes no sense.
And also, I would argue, you can make an argument there should be less moderation.
It could be a free-for-all.
I don't think that works.
I think people get sick of that.
They get sick of the abuse.
They get sick of the false information.
So the question is: when you say, what does he not get?
I guess what we don't get is what exactly does Mr. Musk want to do on the platform that he can't do right now?
He's been profane around elected U.S. senators.
He's accused an innocent man of being a pedophile.
He's posted Hitler memes.
You know, what does he want to do, Harry?
Does he want to kill a puppy on Twitter spaces live?
What exactly is he being constrained from doing?
I know very few of us woke up this morning and said, finally, I can express myself on Twitter.
Boy, boy, crazy boy.
Get cool, boy.
Got a rocket in your pocket.
Keep cool, I cool boy.
Cool down, Scotty boy.
Cool down.
You know what?
I think I'm gonna, I need to, I may have some sunglasses in my suitcase here because I'm leaving town.
You know, I think I'm since I am the mascot of cool, I should probably do this entire show in my cheaters, in my shades.
You know, Elon Musk says, I want to have as much free speech as possible.
I want people, I don't like to be able to say things that I don't like.
And he says, what does he want to do?
Kill puppies?
And here's, of course, on the view is Sonny Hoston with always cut 17, always the most original thing to say.
Twitter is not the real world.
And in fact, on Twitter, it is predominantly straight white men.
So when Elon Musk says, wow, this is about free speech.
It seems to me that it's about free speech of straight white men.
And so let them have it.
Let them just go at it.
I enjoyed the block button on Twitter.
Breeze it, buzz it, easy does it.
Turn off the juice, boy.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on.
Am I still wearing my shit?
I am.
I forget.
I'm a little old.
I forget.
So how could she possibly?
That was so original to accuse him of being a white male.
This is, by the way, an African-American Elon Musk.
But to accuse him of being a white male, I've never heard that before.
That's so original.
You know, that's the other aspect of cool.
Coolness is original.
It's saying fresh things, new things, different things.
You know, like that's when a leftist accuses you of being a racist, it's like, wow, wow, man.
I mean, just like hallucinatory.
I've never heard anything like that.
The best one, the best one, the king of left-wing uncool is Ari Melber at MSNBC.
This is his reaction to what horrible things might come if Elon Musk takes over Twitter.
If you own all of Twitter or Facebook or what have you, you don't have to explain yourself.
You don't even have to be transparent.
You could secretly ban one party's candidate or all of its candidates, all of its nominees, or you could just secretly turn down the reach of their stuff and turn up the reach of something else.
And the rest of us might not even find out about it until after the election.
Elon Musk says this is all to help people because he is just a free speech, philosophically clear, open minded helper.
Go, man, go.
But not like a yo-yo school boy.
Just play it cool, boy.
Real cool.
Yeah, daddy.
I'm getting a little ridiculous.
I'm going to take these off.
But, you know, he says basically that Elon Musk might do exactly what Twitter is doing right now.
You know, I gained when the deal was signed or sealed, it wasn't signed, but when it was sealed between Elon Musk and Twitter, I gained about 12,000 followers in a 24-hour period.
Every conservative was having the same experience.
Why?
Because the algorithm was blocking us.
It was tamping us down.
It was muting us.
And they basically were shredding paper before the new boss comes in, right?
We got to get rid of the algorithm.
Elon Musk wants to open the algorithm so we can see what they're doing, which is what Jack Dorsey had originally planned as well.
You know, the left only know it's only a culture war to the left if we're fighting back.
That's the only time they admit it's a culture war.
They come out and say, oh, you know what?
We're going to queer your kids.
We're going to teach your kids that they're the wrong gender.
We're going to teach them that if they're white, they're racist.
And anybody who dissents, we're going to penalize them.
We're going to silence any dissent.
And we say, don't do that.
We're in a code.
We get into this culture war.
How did this happen?
And they go, no, I mean, here is the libs of TikTok 24.
This is a little bit of a compilation of liberals reacting to Elon Musk, taking away their privilege.
It's their privilege to silence conservatives because everything they say is progress and everything we say is reaction, right?
It's just like we started with Michelle Goldberg's column.
Oh, they're reactionary.
They're Philistines.
They're brutish Philistines.
But we're not censorious.
It's only censorious online.
So a couple of people may be over the line, but they're judgmental.
Some judgmental on the left.
But I'm just saying that everybody on the right is a brutish Philistine.
Here's the libs of TikTok.
Elon Musk, this is directly to you.
Enjoy Twitter.
I just deactivated mine.
I will not be reactivating it.
Enjoy.
I deactivated my account and deleted the app.
That's what I think of it.
Elon Musk.
Today, Twitter has announced that they've been bought by Elon Musk or however you say his name.
I'm not interested in staying on Twitter anymore because of this.
And I think there's a lot of people that are about to leave.
So I just wanted to let everyone know that you can find me here.
I'm going to also share this on Twitter before I deactivate my account so that anyone who wants to follow me can find me here as well.
Hey, I did a thing today.
I deactivated my Twitter account.
You can too.
Boy, boy, crazy boy.
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I like the woman who said Musk, however you pronounce it.
It's M-U-S-K.
Muske.
I don't know how you pronounce it.
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So if it were just these crazies, if it were just these media people who can't see themselves, if it's just the libs of TikTok, you know, complaining, that would be one thing.
But the attempt to stop Elon Musk from allowing conservatives to speak, and that's what we're talking about, was vast.
I mean, the Europeans were issuing warnings, you have to follow the EU rules.
Elizabeth Warren was saying we have to new rules.
The Senate Democrats are planning, talking about calling Elon Musk in to grill him.
But best of all, I think, is the announcement that the Department of Homeland Security has created a disinformation governance board, the Ministry of Truth.
This is what we, you know, I always tell you that there's only free speech and speech governed by the powerful.
There's nothing in between.
If you have the power to silence speech, you have more power than the person who is speaking.
So there's only free speech and speech governed by the powerful.
So here is the Ministry of Truth right out of 1984.
The government is going to tell us what disinformation is.
So just to put the absolute cherry on top of the fascist cupcake, they have Nina Jankowicz who's going to be on the board.
And Nina Jankowicz is one of the people who militated against publishing the Hunter Biden laptop story, who said, you know, basically that this is Soviet disinformation, that this is a lie, and all this did everything she could to kill that story, and now is sending out TikTok videos like this one.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Why do fascist women think that they're so cute?
I don't know, but this is a TikTok video she put out about disinformation, CUP 35.
Information laundering is really quite ferocious.
It's when a huckster takes some lies and makes them sound precocious by saying them in Congress or a mainstream outlet.
So disinformation's origins are slightly less atrocious.
It's how you hide a little eye, little lie.
It's how you hide a little eye, little lie.
It's how you hide a little eye, little lie when Rudy Giuliani shared that income from Ukraine.
Or when TikTok influencers say COVID can cause pain.
They're laundering disinfo when we really should take note and not support their lies with our wallet voice or vote.
It's like somebody has to tell these communists they're just not as cute as they think they are.
The lawyer, the Twitter lawyer, the top tutorial lawyer, Vijaya Gade, called a virtual meeting with the policy and legal teams.
This is from Politico, to discuss what the new ownership could mean.
And she cried during the meeting as she expressed concerns about how the company could change.
This is the woman who basically made the decision to kill the Hunter laptop story, to knock the president of the United States off of Twitter while Ayatollah's could go on there and talk about killing all the Jews, but they wouldn't get rid of Donald Trump.
They said they Ayatollah has to stay on because he is a head of state, but Donald Trump is just the president.
We can get rid of him.
So she's crying, but I was there and I've got those leftist tears.
And oh boy, they do taste good.
So here's the thing.
We know that this is who they are.
And we know what they do.
We know what they do.
You know, just this week, Steve Martin, 1970s, right, there was a King Tut exhibit.
I remember it.
They brought over this stuff, King Tut's tomb.
It was just beautiful and they took it around and it was a really big thing.
It was a really big thing.
And Steve Martin, who was an art collector, a very sophisticated guy, did a routine about the fact that they were commercializing King Tut.
And he showed up.
If you're not watching, he showed up in this hilarious looking King Tut outfit.
And he made the speech on Saturday Night Live.
I think it's a national disgrace the way we have commercialized it with trinkets and toys, t-shirts and posters.
And about three months ago, I was up in the woods and I wrote a song.
I tried to use the ancient modalities and melodies.
I would like to do it for you right now.
Maybe we can all learn something from this.
People stand in line to see the boy King.
King Tut.
How'd you get so focused?
Did you do the monkey?
It's a classic Steve Martin routine.
He's dancing around like an Egyptian, like an Egyptian hieroglyph.
Now, this trends on Twitter because they say people are discussing whether this was cultural appropriation.
It's 1978.
Steve Martin, obviously making fun of the commercialization of this thing.
But never mind, who cares what he's doing?
He's making jokes.
They're trying to, in other words, Twitter put this up there.
Nobody was talking about this.
Nobody is talking about this.
They took it down right away.
Media tries to back him up.
They run a headline that says, Stephen Martin, Stephen Martin.
Well, you got to be formal when a guy's dressed up like an Egyptian king.
Stephen Martin's King Tut sketch from 1978 sparks Twitter debate on cultural appropriation.
Now, I'm on Twitter.
I didn't see any damn debate about this.
They couldn't quote anything in the article.
They found like two people.
It's utterly ridiculous.
And they do this all the time.
On that trending thing, and this has also stopped since Elon Musk closed the deal.
On the trending thing, when you see Ben Shapiro, when you see Matt Walsh, it's because they're being attacked.
When you see a leftist, it's because he's being praised.
LGBTQ Author Takes On Fascists00:03:26
That's every single time.
There's no such thing as a conservative issue coming up with people being supportive of that issue.
There's only stuff garbage like this.
The same thing is happening at Amazon, which is really dangerous because Amazon sells most of the new books, I mean, like 90% of the new books published in this country.
If Amazon is being run by book burners, we are in serious, serious trouble.
And this is one of the reasons I feel that the government has a right to force corporations to allow free speech.
This is an important thing that they have the right to do.
You know, there is an author, an LGBTQ, it's terrible.
It's an LGBTQ author.
His name is Matt Walsh, I think.
And he has this book, Johnny the Walrus.
You can get it at johnnythewalrus.com about a little boy or girl or whatever.
I wouldn't read this up, but I don't read LGBTQ stuff.
You know, that's awful.
But no, it's about a little boy who thinks he's a walrus and whether or not he can become a walrus.
And ultimately, he's convinced to be himself, which is a good message.
But over at Amazon, oh my gosh, this is an executive at Amazon holding a meeting, Cut 11.
Recommendations that this customer received, and that other customers frequently reach out to us about that they're receiving.
It's about a book called Johnny the Walrus.
And I want to be very clear: the next two are about books.
And I saw someone say, Oh, Joy, we're going to talk about one of them because it's been a very traumatic experience for transgender Amazonians and our transgender customers.
What I don't want to come out of this is slamming the books team with a bunch of tickets.
They're already aware of this.
There are things in this space that are happening.
But Johnny the Walrus is a bit of a problematic book.
Not a bit.
It is not a bit of a problem.
It's one hell of a problem.
It's a big, big problem.
Wait till you hear what he says about Matt's.
You know, this is Matt Walsh.
This is a top LGBTQ author with a cardigan and everything.
And he's got a documentary coming out called What is a Woman?
And this is what this guy says about that.
Jamie Lee shared some information with me about the movie.
The documentary that's going along with it, but people are already talking about it.
He tricked, it was very much book style, tricking transgender people into participating, not understanding what they were participating in.
And it's called What is a Woman?
One man's journey to answer the question.
I mean, like, does that, like, let's just back up for a second and say, does a man even belong in this conversation?
No, he doesn't.
But guess what?
We're not, it's not even on sale yet.
And it's number one in women's studies.
And number one in the other categories that it's available in as well.
So this is cheap mansplaining.
Oh, I take issue with that.
This thing costs us a bundle.
It's not cheap mansplaining.
This is very expensive mansplaining.
This is a guy who does not even think that men should be allowed to talk about women because that's mansplaining.
This is a guy running the biggest bookseller in the world.
I mean, these guys are fascists.
Why Men Can't Talk About Women00:13:27
They are, you know, and I shouldn't say that because what they are is communists.
You know, it's not, fascists aren't the only bad ones.
But you cannot be cool if you are uncool.
You cannot be cool if you cannot let people say what they have to say.
You know, if you want free speech, you got to let people you don't like say things you don't like.
And if you're a bookseller, that is especially true because there are a lot of books that say things you don't like.
I'm kidding around about us being the cool kids, and we are the cool kids now, oddly enough, but we're only the cool kids because they, the left, the censorious, small-minded, misguided left, are incredibly uncool.
Breathe it, buzz it, easy does it.
Turn off the juice, boy.
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I think one of the most important cases has come up, not maybe as important as the Roe v. Wade case, but I'm reading this off the Wall Street Journal.
Supreme Court justices Monday tussled over the line between permitted private prayer by a public school employee and prohibited coercion of students to join in religious exercise in a case from Bremerton, Washington, near Seattle, I think, that could reset the boundary between church and state on campus.
At issue is Bremerton High School football coach Joe Kennedy's post-game practice of taking a knee to pray on the 50-yard line, win or lose, sometimes with players coming over to join him.
And I should mention that players from both sides, both teams, would come over to join him sometimes.
Mr. Kennedy, a Christian, says he feels compelled to praise God, but played no favorites with the students who participate in the prayer circle.
Just before the case came before the court, Kennedy, the coach, made his case in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.
I'm going to read a little bit of it because it's really interesting.
He says, the Bremerton High School athletic director hired me because of my experience training Marines to work as a team.
He says, as I weighed the opportunity, I watched the movie Facing the Giants.
It seemed an answer from God.
I committed to coaching football and promised God that I would take a knee by myself in quiet prayer at the 50-yard line following every game, win or lose.
Over the years, that's important, by the way, because I know in Sports Illustrated and places where they think they're very cool and very sophisticated, they're always saying, oh, you know, you're praying to win a game, but that's not what athletes pray for.
They pray for excellence.
They pray for that they can do their best job.
They pray that it's a great game and their team performs well, but nobody prays to win a football game because they know that God is not really taking sides in the football game.
And who knows?
He may have money on the other team.
He says, over the years, my prayers developed into motivational talks in which I led players who chose to join me in prayer.
When the school district eventually told me to stop doing that, I did.
My commitment with God didn't involve others.
It was only to pray by myself at the 50-yard line after each game.
But then the school district got lawyers involved and they kept shifting the goalposts every time I complied.
Eventually, they said I had to refrain from any, quote, demonstrative religious activity, unquote, visible to students or the public.
They suggested instead I walk across the field, up the stairs, across a practice field, into the main school building, down the hall, and into the janitor's office if I wanted to pray after games.
You know, as we never treat, religious people never treat atheists this way.
I mean, atheists are so afraid of God.
They're so afraid of the power of God that they got to, I don't even want to say it.
I can't see it.
Go away.
He says, I thought, the coach says, I thought that would send a message that prayer is something bad that has to be hidden.
I couldn't send that message, so I simply asked to continue praying quietly on one knee at the 50-yard line after each game.
Two days after my last post-game prayer, the school suspended me, even though they acknowledged there was no evidence that students had been directly coerced to pray with them and that I had complied with its directives not to intentionally involve students.
And the school then gave me the first negative evaluation of my file, adding, do not hire, and he refused to go back.
So a lot of this, of course, started with a parent, Jennifer Chamberlain, who is now on the board of the Bremerton City Town Council, I think.
Yep, Bremerton City Council.
And she is a classic one of these atheists who just cannot is threatened by the existence of prayer anywhere, the existence of worship anywhere, and feels that this is a violation of the separation of church and state, a principle that does not exist in the Constitution.
The wall between church and state is from a letter by Thomas Jefferson.
It is not in the Constitution.
What is in the Constitution is that you have a right to the establishment of a religion.
You have the right to worship, to follow your religion, and not just privately.
You have the right to live out the meaning of your creed.
But here's Jennifer Chamberlain complaining.
What he really wanted was to do his prayer on the field to grandstand his prayer under the stadium lights.
It was to bring attention to himself and his Christian prayer in a facility that's paid for by the taxpayers during a school-sponsored event.
I was gravely concerned about students, whether on the football team or students speaking out, students at the high school who do not identify as Christian being harassed because of my previous experience and not having any adult support.
Now, I have to say, the decisions that the court has made have been very, very confusing, but they have been interpreted often to mean that you can't have any display of any kind of religion in anything that has anything to do with the government, which is just not true.
But what has happened is the ACLU goes around and other powerful entities go around and sue people and they can't afford to defend themselves, so they just take down the display.
But this guy fought back.
So the case goes before the Supreme Court, and we'll just play, this is, I took this off a PBS report of this, which was pretty fair, I thought.
And here is Brett Kavanaugh questioning the attorney for the school.
How far does that go?
A coach does the sign of the cross right before the game.
Is that, could a school fire the coach for the sign of the cross right before the game?
If the coach is doing it while not making himself the center of attention at the center of the field, it's perfectly fine.
I don't know how we could write an opinion that would draw a line based on not making yourself the center of attention as the head coach of a game.
And here is Elena Kagan, and I use her because she is one of the smarter leftists, even though her vote is reliable, she is at least open to having the argument, and she's questioning Kennedy's attorney.
There is overt discrimination on the basis of religion, as is evidenced in the record here, by school districts who aren't evil.
It's just they're doing it out of misguided endorsement concerns.
There must be countless times when a coach in the post-game talk or a teacher in math class where people would totally believe them if they said, I'm doing this as just me.
Now, that seems to me to be coercive of 16-year-olds, regardless if they know that it's him and not the school district.
I seriously believe this is one of the most important issues facing us, not because I believe that people can't, you know, people can be religious and small-minded and mean and very un-Christian, but I think that this has been an attempt to take prayer out of the public square.
And here's a couple of things about this.
And part of this I get from arguments made by Anton and Scalia.
Like Scalia said the government cannot choose between religions or among religions, but it can choose between God and not God.
It can choose between religion and irreligion.
I think this is incredibly important for the simple reason that our rights come from God.
Our rights are ensured by God.
This is in the Declaration of Independence.
Abraham Lincoln said the Declaration is the philosophy behind the Constitution.
It says we are endowed by our Creator with certain rights.
And it seems to me, if that is the axiom of the country, I call this the axiomatic God of freedom.
Because if this is the axiom, mean the unprovable basis of everything else you believe, then you have to accept the axiom.
That doesn't mean you can be forced to believe in it, but you can be essentially forced to accept it as the axiom of the country.
You don't have to believe in God, obviously, but you have to say, in this country, we believe that our rights come from God, and therefore I have to accept, act as if this axiomatic God exists.
And I think that this is the target of the left and of atheists in taking this out of the public school.
I think this man has the right to pray on the 50-yard line.
If they can show that he coerced people to pray, if they can show that he penalized people for not praying because he's specifically a Christian, then yes, I think that you can say you have acted wrongly and you can be fired.
I think that should be very, very clear.
But if he just goes and prays or even allows time for prayer and has a moment of silence and says, here's a moment of silence, pray if you will, I think that that should be thoroughly legal.
And I think the court has messed this up.
They have stumbled over this again and again.
I don't think it's as complicated an issue.
Once you understand that there is an axiomatic God of freedom, that the reason we have freedoms is because we're endowed by God.
I think that this is something we should really push back on and really start to legislate about because once you let God out of the public sphere, we have no argument.
There isn't, you know, this is that argument I've had with people before where they say, well, we can't base it on God because not everybody believes in God.
It doesn't matter whether they believe.
They have to pretend.
They have to act as if this axiomatic God of freedom exists because without him, there is no argument with freedom.
Without God, there is no freedom.
It is just the truth.
Because after that, if there's no basis where we can say to this line, but no further, then our rights just come from government.
Our rights are just a privilege that government has granted us.
If we come to government with rights that the government is established to protect, that's a very different story.
And you can see this overseas.
You can see it in free countries like Britain and France and Germany where they do not have our free speech because they do not have our First Amendment and they do not have that idea that the First Amendment is based on that.
We are endowed by God with our rights.
I think that axiomatic God of freedom is something that the Supreme Court ought to discover and ought to protect.
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Why Sleep Became Taboo00:09:08
So how did the left get so uncool?
Because let's face it, in the 60s, they were the cool kids.
And they're truly not anymore.
They're censorious.
I mean, it's not just, it is power, and power does corrupt, and power does strip you of your cool, and power turns you into the brutal Philistines that they are, brutish Philistines.
I don't want to misquote them.
They are brutish Philistines.
But the vehicle by which they have exercised this power and by which this power has taken them over is theory.
And this is something I really want to talk about more in the weeks to come, is the nature of these theories that they now throw out.
And we don't even know what we're hearing sometimes and where they come from.
And I want to just go back even before theory.
You know, when the religion started to pass from Western culture, when what has come to be known as the death of God, which is after the Middle Ages, the coming of modernity and then the coming of postmodernity, people started to try, they had to try to explain human behavior in purely materialist ways, right?
Because there was no God.
There was nothing to talk about but us, our brains, our bodies.
In the Middle Ages, you had theologians, Catholic theologians, obviously, developing the idea of human psychology as an interchange between man and God.
If you go to Aquinas, I'll read a little bit of Aquinas.
He says, human virtues, human virtues perfect man insofar as man is naturally moved by reason in the things that he does within or without.
Higher perfections must therefore be in man by which he is disposed to be moved by God.
And these perfections are called gifts.
And what Aquinas essentially said was that, yes, you have reason, you have a moral sense.
You couldn't be moved to do moral things if you didn't have a moral sense.
But in order to perfect that moral sense, in order to grow in your moral understanding, you had to have an interchange with God, which you received by having faith in God, which then implanted the Holy Spirit within you.
I think I'm getting Aquinas basically right there.
If you believe in the same way that if you see a rainbow, the rainbow is inside you, right?
That rainbow isn't out there.
A phenomenon is out there, but your experience of the rainbow is inside you.
When you have faith, God, part of God, is inside you, and they call that part the Holy Spirit.
It is completely God, but it is only one of the three parts of God.
And through that Holy Spirit, you are now in communication from the outside, and you get gifts.
You get gifts of virtue that grow by your interaction with God, through prayer and through communication with God, and studying scripture in all these different ways.
So you understand that you're not just in your head.
It's not just thoughts whirling around in your head and bouncing off your body.
It is something that is ever new and ever changing.
And you start to understand when you try to understand where suffering comes from.
How can there be a good God and there's evil?
You start to think about what God is doing.
You grow because new information is coming in.
But once you start to explain life in complete material, in completely material terms, now you're just locked inside your head and inside your body.
And this is what starts to happen with people theorizing, having theories about where human nature comes from.
And of course, the most successful of these theorists was Sigmund Freud.
It is hard for me who lived through it to tell you how powerful, how ubiquitous, how absolutely accepted the theories of Sigmund Freud were.
The idea that you were a purely physical creature motivated by sexual desire, by eros, in your relationship with your parents.
And the way you worked out that relationship was the way you would react to members of the opposite sex in the future.
So you grew up having this desire to marry your mother, to sleep with your mother, and therefore you had to kill your father who was in the way, but you were afraid because your father was more powerful than you.
So you repressed this desire for your mother.
And in repressing it, you then turned it, the healthy way to repress it was to then turn it to another woman, to other women instead of your mom.
But you wound up marrying someone kind of like your mom.
And that was what you did.
And if this repression and readjustment of your desire didn't go over too well, you ended up being homosexual.
It was almost always that.
But if something went wrong with you, maybe you ended up butchering cats or something like that.
Something went wrong with you if this redirection of your desire didn't pan out.
It didn't work for you.
So now, since Freud, this has become, this has been disproved, basically.
In studies, they have shown that it is at least not normative to go around wanting to sleep with your mother and wanting to kill your father.
That is not how normal children think.
That is not what normal people want.
But Freud talked about the fact that repression led to resistance.
The same power that repressed your desire for your mother so that you could turn it to other women resisted being unrepressed.
So if it went bad and you turned out to be a homosexual, which he regarded as a mental illness, and you went to a doctor, a psychiatrist, to try to cure this mental illness, he had to overcome your resistance to the cure because the resistance was your repression of your desire with your mother.
So if you said to Freud, you know, I don't want to sleep.
Have you met my mother?
I don't want to sleep with my mother.
This theory is bull.
What Freud would say, and this is what they did say, this is what psychiatrists did say, was, oh, you're only saying that because that's resistance because of the repression, because you want to sleep with your mother.
You say, no, I don't want to sleep with your mother.
No, you're only saying that because you want to sleep with your mother.
So in other words, you got into this cycle, this circle.
Now, of course, you had to do that, right?
You had to defend these theories.
First of all, there was no evidence of these theories.
I mean, Freud said, I talk to people and I analyze myself and therefore I know what everybody's thinking.
If you read Freud, he's a genius writer.
He's a brilliant writer.
And he was a genius in many, many ways, but he was also a quack.
He had no scientific basis for what he was saying.
And most of it, as I say, has been disproved.
But once you are in this closed system where everything about you is just your mind interacting with your body and there's nothing from the outside coming in, there's no extra spirit.
Your spirit is not part of anything larger.
You're in this cycle and you're caught in it forever.
You know, I recently read a book that I really like.
There's a writer named Stephen Greenblatt, and just as full disclosure, my father-in-law was his mentor, though I never met Greenblatt himself.
And I love his writing.
He's a great literary critic, but he's a complete atheist.
And so he sometimes misses the most obvious things that writers are saying.
So he has a book about Adam and Eve, and he talks about St. Augustine, Augustine of Hippo, who is one of the founding fathers of Christianity, one of the guys who absolutely established many of the tenets of the faith and reestablished some of the lost tenets of the faith.
And all he talks about when he talks about Augustine is his Oedipal complex for his mother.
He talks about the tension between Augustine's mother and father and how she didn't want him to become a sexual creature because his father cheated on her, blah, And he talks about their entire religious experience as being a kind of orgasmic experience between son and mother.
It's absurd.
It is absurd.
So once you're in this system, you can't get out of it.
Materialist system explains everything and it basically always has an argument that the reason you disagree with it is because you're in this materialist system.
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Freudian Horror Masks00:07:34
Now, we're talking about how powerful this Freudianism was.
I want to play three quick clips from horror movies.
I was talking before about how I'd been researching Ed Gein, a famous serial killer who basically dug up the bodies of women and killed a couple of women and used their bodies as a costume because he wanted to feel close to his mother.
So he seemed like a Freudian creature.
This inspired Psycho, all right?
So Ed Gein inspired Psycho.
And here is the scene at the end of Psycho where his Norman Bates, who's been killing women and dressing up as his mother, is explained by a psychiatrist.
He stole her corpse.
A weighted coffin was buried.
He hid the body in the fruit cellar, even treated it to keep it as well as it would keep.
And that still wasn't enough.
She was there, but she was a corpse.
So he began to think and speak for her.
Give her half his life, so to speak.
At times, he could be both personalities, carry on conversations.
At other times, the mother half took over completely.
He was never all Norman, but he was often only mother.
And because he was so pathologically jealous of her, he assumed that she was as jealous of him.
Therefore, if he felt a strong attraction to any other woman, the mother's side of him would go wild.
Complete authority.
He is the authority explaining what you've seen in the movie.
Now, about 18 years later, Psycho, inspired by Ed Gein, inspires the movie Halloween, in which Donald Pleasance plays the psychiatrist.
He describes his first meeting with the serial killer of Halloween, Michael Myers, as a little boy.
I met him 15 years ago.
I was told there was nothing left.
No reason, no conscience, no understanding, and even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong.
I met this six-year-old child with this blank, pale, emotionless face and the blackest eyes.
The devil's eyes.
I spent eight years trying to reach him, and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized that what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply evil.
Great actor Donald Pleasant.
Now, suddenly, it's not the same.
20 years has gone by.
Freud is losing his power, losing his influence, and suddenly they're saying, you know, there is something outside.
There's evil.
You can be evil.
You know, this is the devil's eyes.
All right, so now another, I don't know what it is, 10 years, 10 years go by, and we have another story inspired by Ed Gein, Silence of the Lambs.
Remember, Buffalo Bill is killing women and dressing up in their bodies, basically, because he wants to become a female.
So we go to the psychiatrist, the explanation, and the psychiatrist is Hannibal Lecter.
Here's what he says.
She had an object deliberately inserted into her throat.
Now, that hasn't been made public yet.
We don't know what it means.
Was that a butterfly?
Yes.
A moth.
Just like the one we found in Benjamin Raspal's head an hour ago.
Why does he place them there, doctor?
The significance of the moth has changed.
Caterpillar into chrysalis or pupa.
And from thence into beauty.
Our belly wants to change too.
There's no correlation in the literature between transsexualism and violence.
Transsexuals are very passive.
Have a girl.
You're so close to the way you're going to catch him.
Do you realize that?
So now the psychiatrist is the evil one.
Why is he evil?
He's a cannibal.
He turns people into meat.
And essentially, Thomas Harrison is very intentional in the book.
You can tell he's actually a very, Harris is obviously a very intelligent author, obviously making the point, complains about the fact that the word evil is never used in the story.
He's making the point that psychiatry has turned people into meat.
And Buffalo Bill is evil not because he's transgender.
He's evil because he thinks that the essence of women is their body outline.
He thinks that if he changes his body outline, he will become a woman, like many people are arguing today.
And the thing about today is we are in a new set of theories that are exactly the same, materialist theories.
The theory that gender is wholly connected, the theory that race is essential, right?
And if you deny that race is essential, you're racist.
And if you say that race is essential, you're racist because everything is racist.
And you say, well, no, I'm not a racist.
Ah, you're saying that because you're a racist.
It's the same thing, the same thing.
Once you're stuck inside that materialist circle, there is no way out.
If you say that all truths are the creation of power, and you say, no, I don't believe that.
Some things are just true.
Yes, that's because you have power and you're exercising your power over me.
Even language, even language is simply an instrument of power.
So there's no way for us to communicate unless we happen to have special dispensation from our victimhood.
If we're a black, gay woman who is with one leg, maybe, maybe something we say is true because we don't have the power to fight back.
But what you see here in this progress from psycho to Halloween to silence of the lambs is eventually reality comes back.
And that is what's happening to the left right now.
They took it so far.
We were listening because we didn't really understand where it was coming from.
We didn't understand this theory that we have no gender.
We didn't understand what they were talking about when they said systemic racism.
We didn't understand that they had developed a very, very complex, very intricate, very sophisticated system of theories that exclude, exclude the possibility of something coming from the outside that could explode the theory like reality.
There is no reality.
There is no is.
There's only what should be.
And if we're not where we should be, then we get to destroy everything that is.
This is exactly what they say.
It's not me just complaining about it.
It is what they say.
And what I'm saying is if you watch the progression of these psychiatrists in this movie, you can have hope that the truth does will out.
The fact that we live in a world that has meaning, that has another level, that has something that can come into our lives and change that, will return.
You know, my life was saved by a psychiatrist.
I have nothing against psychiatry.
But after I became healthy, it was after I became healthy that I realized that many of the insights I had in psychiatry were false.
There were things that just weren't true of me.
They were just things that I learned from Freudianism.
And I asked myself, well, then why did this guy change my life?
How did he save me?
How did he cure me?
And I realized it was because we loved each other.
I loved him like a father, the only father figure I ever had.
And he came to love me as well, I'm quite sure.
And because of this father-son relationship, we could have the relationship I didn't have with my father, which is a relationship that represents the relationship you have with God.
That's what fathers are there for.
That's what mothers are there for, too, representing the feminine side of God.
It is something outside of ourselves that can come into ourselves and change us.
Once you're stuck in these materialist theories, you can never change, which is the ultimate uncool.
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All right, I've been looking forward to this conversation all week long.
You all know Jenna Ellis.
She is a constitutional law attorney, Newsmax contributor.
She has a great show, The Jenna Ellis Show, which you can find at the JennaEllis show.com.
But you may not know that she is also the most evil person in the universe, which you would have found out if you had been reading Twitter and you saw what happened when Jenna said that Governor of Florida DeSantis had overstepped the mark in stripping Disney of its special status in Florida in response to their complaints about his parental rights bill and also,
I guess, the Chris Ruffo tapes that showed there were a bunch of grooming psychopaths trying to destroy our children through their cartoons.
But Jenna was afraid for free speech, which I am always, an argument I'm always very sympathetic about.
They just riffed into you, Jenna.
It was, I was embarrassed for them.
Some of them, I mean, one of them was calling not only you a groomer, they were calling Jeremy the God King a groomer, which I thought was a big mistake.
They don't know that he can give them diseases just by thinking about it.
He's only a mind, you know, he's a minor G, a lower G God King, but still he has some powers, you know.
Right.
Well, Drew, thanks so much for having this conversation because a lot of people I think are confused on the issue.
And yeah, it's amazing that I'm getting hate now for this side because I'm used to getting a ton of hate for having defended President Trump.
So I'm used to being called the most evil person in the world, and that's okay.
It's just that this now is something conservatives don't like instead of something the leftists don't like.
So this is where free speech absolutely matters.
And kind of the point of this whole thing is that government cannot retaliate, government cannot retaliate against an individual or entity based on the content or viewpoint of that speech.
Now, individuals.
Before we get into the argument, because I told you I disagree with you on this, and we're going to talk about both sides of it, but explain exactly to people, remind people exactly what happened so they know what we're talking about exactly.
Yeah.
And the timeline here is so important because the first thing that happened, of course, was the parental rights and education bill, which I think you and I agree with, is a very good piece of legislation.
It's not strong enough as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that said that parents actually have a right to know what's going on in children's classrooms and among a lot of other things.
So So you and I agree that that's very good policy.
For some reason, the Walt Disney Company does not agree with that.
And so they issued a statement saying basically we are opposed to the quote-unquote don't say gay bill, which of course is a distraction from the issue.
And they even said that they'll use their time and resources to oppose that legislation.
Then the parental rights and education bill went through anyway.
The state of Florida won.
DeSantis signed it.
That's all well and good.
That's how politics work.
That's how policy works.
We can debate all of these ideas.
But then Ron DeSantis and the state of Florida stepped over the line because in retaliation for Disney saying that they oppose the parental rights and education bill, then there was a new bill that came forward that is going to strip the Disney company of its special district and take away some of these tax exemptions.
And there have been a number of legislators and Ron DeSantis has even fundraised off of this to say that just because Disney opposed the parental rights and education bill, they are now going to retaliate for that conduct.
That's the part of it that I disagree with.
Because if it's anybody else in a blue state that comes after a conservative individual or company for opposing, let's say, an abortion bill that restricts abortion at the moment of conception.
And a company like, say, Chick-fil-A says, we are opposed to this bill or for this bill.
And they make a political statement.
And then a blue state says, well, we're coming after you.
And we are going to take away some of your right.
We're going to retaliate against you because of the content of your speech.
Now, it doesn't matter if Disney's entitled to their special district or not.
What matters is that this was adverse action, specifically in retaliation for exercising a constitutionally protected right.
That's what I have a problem with.
Well, first of all, I mean, the thing I think we completely agree on, we both completely agree that free speech is the first freedom.
Without it, you don't have anything, that we have to protect it, and that both people on the right, well, people on the left don't care, but people on the right can get so angry that they jeopardize, they forget what's going to happen when the power is turned around.
And we both agree with that.
And I think we both agree.
I mean, I, at this point, when I saw, this is more a reaction to the Chris Ruffo tapes of people within Disney saying, yes, we are explicitly putting sexualized content in our cartoons for young people.
And Walt Disney himself has to be rolling over in his refrigerator or wherever they've got him.
Because, I mean, it's completely antithetical to everything Disney was created for, everything that made us love Disney, everything that made it the big corporation that it is.
So I think we both, but we both agree that this is kind of hair raising and awful, right?
I mean, oh, absolutely.
And that's something very clear that I am not in any way okay with that type of content.
I'm opposed to Disney's statement, but I agree with their right to create unfortunately unsavory content.
That's part of a protection in the First Amendment as well.
I mean, unfortunately, even pornography is protected speech and protective creative content when it gets to crossing a criminal line.
Like if there are people who have taken actions that say work for Walt Disney, they can be arrested and prosecuted.
If this is actual child abuse or child pornography, we have criminal laws against that.
But what we should never have is government retaliating because they don't like the content that Disney is producing.
So here's my problem.
Well, there's a couple, I mean, this is another argument, but I'm not sure pornography is protected speech or should be, but still, let's forget about that for a minute.
Well, the Supreme Court has said that it is.
So, I mean, I'm going these words.
So here's my problem with this.
That a corporation is a person, is treated like a person and has a person's rights.
It seems to me that that's true as long as it is behaving like a person.
And when hobby lobbies write hobby lobby, is that what it's called?
Lobby hobby, that when their right to not partake of the contraceptive mandate in Obamacare, that that right was protected.
The Supreme Court said, because it's a family-owned company, because they have acted like a Christian person, essentially, their right is protected.
But what bothers me about this is a corporation taking the special district, and it's almost like the Vatican.
They have their own government, they have their own zoning codes, they have everything.
It seems to me that they are now no longer a person.
No one has ever said to me, you know, Clavin, if you come to Florida, everybody will be so much happier.
There'll be more wisdom.
Women will walk around with a gleam in their eye.
All of which is true.
And no one has ever said, so, Claven, we're not going to give you a tax break.
You can zone your own house.
You can do whatever you want.
So now the corporation is saying, we are a special entity, an entity that has rights no person has, but we have the rights of a person.
And that doesn't seem right to me.
It seems to me that you could go before the Supreme Court and say, no, wait, this is something that government gave them.
It gave them this right.
It's a right that is used essentially to get around tax laws, not just for the corporation, but for the state, so they can tax more in this special place without its being state taxes.
I don't understand why the government, that's not a God-given right.
I don't understand why.
No, it's not.
I agree with you.
I don't understand why the government has to say as long as you're acting like a person, like Hobby Lobby, which is a Christian company acting with Christian rules, so you can do Christian things.
But Disney is not acting like a person here.
It's acting like a massive international corporation, which is what it is.
And then to say, oh, but we have the rights of a person doesn't make sense to me.
Well, so I think that we're now talking about two different things because where is the line of personhood with respect to a corporation?
Because if Disney is speaking and they're saying, we as a company are opposed to this legislation, that in my view is not different than Hobby Lobby objecting to a specific government mandate or other legislation in the sense that they have a moral position.
And that's what Disney has expressed.
Now, I disagree with their moral position.
In fact, I think it is immoral.
But in terms of the special district, if very isolated, Florida wanted to say, Disney, we are recontemplating your special district.
We don't think this is good for X and Y reasons as it relates to the tax exemption status of the state of Florida.
Fine.
That's an entirely separate conversation.
But when they choose to say that because Disney is exercising their right to constitutionally protected speech, now our retaliation is against this special district.
Their retaliation could have come in any form.
They could have said we're shutting down the Magic Kingdom.
They could have said we are going to not issue a special permit.
There are actually First Amendment retaliation cases that show very clearly that even if it is a special permit, like for a building, and the government is rescinding that simply based on the contractor or the construction or you as a private individual.
If you go to Florida, you get a special permit to build a daily wire complex and fun park on your land.
And then the state of Florida says, well, we don't really like that, you know, Jimmy the Walrus as a book is out here because we think that's a little too controversial.
So we're not going to give you a special permit for that reason.
That then would be unconstitutional.
But see, what DeSantis said, and it's Johnny the Walrus, please.
I'm sorry.
I'm already, I'm misnaming and misgendering the letters.
You're misgendering the Walrus.
DeSantis said, look, I am tired of companies coming to Florida because we have essentially Republican tax codes and Republican low regulation and then trying to impose California culture on us.
And so he is saying that he's taking this assault from Disney as an attempt to change the culture as a corporation and saying we're not going to treat you like the Disney company you were.
On top of which, by the way, those RUFO tapes, they got this special district.
They got the special district because they're Disney.
They got the special district because we trust them.
We trust them with our children because they made great content.
They're not that company anymore.
So I don't understand why he can't say the way you are behaving has taken away the rights you had to this special privilege.
And again, it's not the same thing as somebody coming to my house or to my business like they do in New York.
If you go up against the mayor in New York.
You're a private individual.
No, but yes, but I'm acting as a private individual.
And when the corporation acts like a private individual, they can be protected as a private individual.
So in New York, they come in and they send the health code in, the health inspectors in, and they say you're off code and they shut down your business to get you back.
But not because of viewpoint discrimination.
And here's the thing, Drew.
Government Benefits and Retaliation00:09:42
Government in the United States is not the vehicle to be the culture changer.
But government gave them this special district.
Yeah, but not for the purpose of being a culture changer.
They gave him the special district for the purpose of helping the state of Florida get a lot of revenue.
It was for a purely government reason.
It wasn't because they agreed or disagreed with viewpoint content.
And so when Ron DeSantis is standing up and saying, we're going against the woke because I want to be a culture changer, that's not the purpose of government in America.
The purpose of government in America is to create the best ideal environment for everyone to exercise their God-given rights.
We in this country limit government power.
If Ron DeSantis wants to be a culture changer, get out of the governorship and go do that as a private citizen or better yet, as a pastor.
The church and the family are the culture.
I really disagree with this.
I think that the governor of a state has a right, does have a right.
He's not the federal government.
He's not the federal government.
He's not specifically targeted by the First Amendment.
He is the governor of a state, and states have different cultures and can make different laws.
But the First Amendment applies to the states through the incorporation clause of the 14th Amendment.
No, I understand that.
But I'm not sure.
So this isn't a federal versus state issue.
So let's not get distracted by that.
No, but when you say he hasn't got the right to affect the culture, I don't agree with that.
I think he doesn't.
He doesn't have the power to affect the culture in the way that he does.
Because governments don't have rights.
They have powers.
And we limit powers in America.
And we limit that because government cannot either give a benefit or especially retaliate and infringe on the basis of agreeing or disagreeing with a viewpoint.
And as soon as we say that that is okay in government, we have lost American freedom.
We have lost liberty because everyone has the same right to participate in the public square and in politics without fear of government retaliating.
Now, you and me, as private individuals, we can take legal steps, things that are legal and lawful, to exercise our right to participate.
We can cancel Disney Plus.
We can sell our stock.
We can speak out against them.
We can do all kinds of things that government cannot do.
All right.
Well, I have to say that even though you're making an argument that is dear to my heart, I mean, I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from.
And I absolutely, it's a close call to me.
And like I said, Jeremy agrees with you.
I cannot agree with this because I just don't think they can't come after me.
They can't come after a business that takes away from them something that every other business has because that's treating them like an individual and violating their individual rights.
But it seems to me they can come after them if they have something special that was given to them by government.
But, but you've made your case very clearly.
And I mine, there's a second argument I want to make here again.
Politics isn't beanbank.
Politics is a tough sport.
The Obama administration targeted the Tea Party through the IRS.
And when they were caught, Obama said, oh, this is horrifying.
Heads will roll.
Nothing.
Nothing happened to anybody.
They went after Hobby Lobby.
They've come after a bunch of different places to shut down free speech.
I mean, they're all about shutting down free speech.
That's almost all they do.
Now, I believe that we should not fight as dirty as the left because then we become the left.
But I think we should fight dirty enough to destroy the left because I think they really are bad folks doing bad things.
And in this case, DeSantis has some cover because he's saying, you know, A, because they're in a special district, they have a right that was given to them by government, not by God.
B, because he can say, well, it's not really about this.
It's just about the fact that they're ruining our culture here in Florida and we don't love them anymore.
Even if he loses that in court, and what's really happening here, he shut them up.
They have shut up.
Now Walt Disney has gone quiet.
There's an article in the Wall Street Journal saying they've gone quiet about this.
And one of the reasons they went quiet about this is because they called up, they have their lobbyists.
Called up the Republican administrators and the Republicans said, listen, just shut up and this is going to go away.
Isn't that the definition of chilling speech?
And shouldn't that scare us that that is actually how Disney is responding?
Because Ron DeSantis did win in that instance.
And it shouldn't matter because the constitutionally protected right here is not the right to have a special district.
Here, it's the right to exercise free speech.
And when Ron DeSantis is saying we're going after them because they're woke, that is not okay for a government to do that.
And so that is absolutely proving the point that the chilling of speech is happening because the government is retaliating.
But my point about this is that what they're fighting, they're fighting them on a territory that is not human territory.
It is not a person's territory.
The right of a special district does not exist for a person.
And so I don't understand why.
In other words, these guys want it both ways.
It's just like Regulation 230.
That came from the government.
And suddenly, when I say we should get rid of it, if it's hurting the culture of free speech in this country, because the government, after all, is there also to protect our speech, right?
It's there to protect our speech.
So if 230 is hurting the culture of speech, get rid of it.
It was given by government.
Get rid of it.
Let the government get rid of it.
Here again, it seems to me that Disney is playing a double game.
They're saying we want the rights of a corporation, but we also want the rights of a person.
And it seems to me you can only have one of those.
You can have both because a corporation in this instance is a person.
But we've had that conversation.
Related to Section 230, that's a little bit different of a legal argument because Section 230 is a liability protection for platforms that are amplifying freedom of speech.
And that is the reason because there has been so much censorship.
That's the reason that government wants to take away a liability protection.
And having that conversation not targeted just to Twitter, not targeted just to Jack Dorsey or now Elon Musk for having viewpoints and saying as the CEO of this company or as a statement of this company, here is what we think on a certain moral issue.
And then the government retaliating because of a specific constitutionally protected exercise of free speech.
So we have to make sure that we're analyzing this appropriately and that also we aren't playing the hypocritical game because Hobby Lobby sued and won in the Supreme Court.
The conservatives are all up in arms when it's a blue state that's retaliating against a corporation for exercising free speech.
So why are we okay with Ron DeSantis too?
They won because they acted like the company acted like a religious person.
These guys are risking something that no person has.
It still protected speech.
It's still protected speech.
And it's still, and so, and what if Hobby Lobby then had a similarly had a tax benefit?
Would you have been okay if they had a tax benefit because they were a religious company for whatever reason they were given that special privilege?
And the leftists said, because you chose to speak out against contraception and oppose this mandate, we're now removing your special speech.
You know, the Wall Street Journal had a great line.
They said, live by the corporate carve-out, die by the corporate carve-out.
I think that, you know, I don't like the fact that these guys get carve-outs to begin with.
So I'm not that.
And that's a whole great conversation, whether or not this is crony capitalism.
Your argument.
Special district.
That's a different conversation.
Your argument is he can take it away, but he can't take it away for this reason.
Yes.
I don't know.
That's a bit practical.
Absolutely.
Really?
Okay.
Okay.
I mean, see, it just seems to me like a special privilege that, you know, you got from the government and you can lose it to the government.
It's not like your free speech rights, which are given by God and the government can't touch them.
This is something.
The exact of this is chilling of speech, which is exactly what you said, what happened in this case.
And that's why First Amendment retaliation jurisprudence specifically has one of the elements is that the retaliation and the adverse action was at least in part motivated by the exercise of constitutionally, of a constitutionally protected right.
And that's what's happening here.
So if DeSantis did this at any other time for any other lawful reason, he'd be okay in removing the special district.
All right, I have to stop.
I'm out of time.
I'm sorry.
We forgot to call each other names.
And I've wanted you to feel at home, you know.
Anyway, it's great.
You make your arguments extremely well.
You make your arguments extremely well.
I still can't buy it, but I get what you're saying.
And I know why you're saying it.
And you're saying it for all the right reasons.
And anybody calls you names, I'm going to have Jeremy put a curse on him.
He can do that.
Thank you.
I appreciate that so much.
And always grateful to have the conversation.
This is why we protect free speech so that we can disagree.
And ultimately, if you don't agree with me, we'll still be friends.
I still love you so much.
Always happy to come on and have these debates.
Thank you.
Likewise.
I'll talk to you soon.
Sounds good.
Thanks.
All right.
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Yeah!
That was a great cut.
I'm sorry we didn't play that.
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Seeking Chaste Companions00:07:41
I've always considered myself a religious person, but lately I've come to question one of the church's teachings, specifically the prohibition on premarital sex.
I've maintained my virginity until now, but I'm 38 years old.
I very much want a family.
Up until now, my love life has been abysmally sparse.
Having spoken to many people and having listened and read much advice, I've come to understand that many women view a man's sexual performance and his willingness to ask for sex as a measure of how attractive he is to other women.
And that sexual performance is a selection criteria in and of itself.
At my age, I fear I'm running out of time to start a family and I don't want to handicap myself any more than I already have.
Is it worth sleeping around where I can to find a woman who's right for me?
Does God value my having a family more than he values my chastity?
Sincerely lucky in loneliness.
You know, it's none of my business how you live your sexual life, but it has nothing to do with your problem.
Yeah, you know, there are women who value chastity and you can find them if you're looking for them.
This whole thing about women viewing a man's sexual performance and his willingness to ask for sex as a measure of how attractive he is to other women, I don't know anything about that.
I'm sure that maybe that's true of some women, but I don't think it is true of women in general.
I think women are quite good, smart women, decent women are quite good at seeing into personal personalities.
So really, I think that what you should be doing is, A, you should be going places where you can find women who value chastity, which would include churches and groups of people like that, online groups, maybe people your relatives know that they can introduce you to.
But also, you should be looking at yourself and asking yourself, why is it so hard for you to find a woman?
I mean, first of all, are you in shape?
Do you take care of yourself?
Is your grooming any good?
Do you get a haircut every now and again?
Do you like know how to take care of yourself so that you can go out in the world and not be repellent to people?
And how is your behavior as a human being to other human beings?
Because one of the things, women do prefer human beings.
It's just one of those species, you know, bigoted species things that women fall into.
But still, you want to act like a human being.
It has nothing to do with whether you value chastity or not.
I mean, if you didn't value chastity, you could find women who didn't.
If you do, you can find women who do.
It is just that you have to be somebody that they're going to want to be with.
And I think maybe you should ask yourself why that's not happening.
I'm not saying it's your fault because I don't know you, but I am saying that what you are saying is not true, is not the reason.
And maybe you should look around for other reasons.
From Ryan, my question involves my 30-year-old brother.
Recently, he made large and extremely risky investments in the stock market out of feelings of desperation and being financially behind his peers, which I don't think he was.
Over the course of two weeks, he lost more than $150,000, representing about two-thirds of his wealth.
It's devastating financial loss for someone so young, and he is absolutely crushed.
My question is, what is the best way for me to help my brother?
For context, I'm three years old, a Catholic, a husband, father, homeowner, and lawyer.
My brother has a job but lives with our parents and has never been in a relationship.
I'm encouraging him to go to therapy and pray, but my suggestions are falling on deaf ears.
At the same time, I recognize that this is not necessarily my battle to fight.
Thank you for your two cents and all the work you put into your show.
You have quickly become my favorite host of Daily Wire.
Sincerely, the recovering Democrat, a Daily Wire all-access member.
Well, thank you for being an all-access member.
Yeah, you know, this is a bigger problem than money.
I mean, if he's 30 and he had $150,000 was two-thirds of his wealth, he obviously had over $200,000 in savings, which I think is pretty good for a 30-year-old.
So why is he living at home?
That speaks to me.
And then why is he panicking and throwing away that money?
It speaks to me of something.
You're right to be concerned about his mental health.
That speaks to me of some mental health problem.
I'd like to know why he's living at home.
It'd be interesting.
Why can't he take care of himself if he can earn that much money?
I mean, if you have $200,000 in the bank and you're working and you're earning money, then you can certainly live outside of your home.
So what I would say to you is that I think it's a good idea to encourage him to go to therapy and pray, but he may not do it.
You may not have any power in this situation.
I think you should talk to your parents and find out why they're allowing him to live at home and what exactly is the situation.
I think you need a clearer idea of the situation that he's in because it doesn't sound to me like, oh, I made an investment and I lost a bunch of money, which could happen to anybody.
It sounds to me like the guy has got some other bigger problem than that and the money is simply a symptom of that.
And I think you ought to think about that, but understand what you say is true.
Do not let yourself or your family be harmed by his problems.
This is not your problem to solve.
If you can help, if you can encourage him to go to therapy, that's great.
If you nag him about it, it's not going to get you anywhere.
If you can talk to your parents and see if you can get a clearer picture of what's going on, that's great, but it may not help you.
You may not have any power in this regard at all.
And he may just have a problem that can't be solved also, a mental problem.
Tyler Lord Clavin, my wife and I were married last May.
We were lucky enough to get pregnant on our honeymoon, but the pregnancy failed due to a chromosomal disorder.
We were devastated, but then in the fall we were happy to get pregnant again.
Out of the blue in February, my wife nearly went into preterm labor.
She bravely decided she would remain on bed rest and was able to get to 22 weeks before our beautiful baby girl Ava was born.
She only lived for a few minutes.
That's heartbreaking.
We're both Christians, but have a hard time finding God's meaning in this.
Can you give us our understanding of our situation?
Well, no.
You know, I can't give you the meaning of the situation because that's not how it works.
There's no philosophical meaning, or if there is a philosophical meaning, you're going to have to find it.
And the way you find it is by prayer and by bringing this to God in your anger, in your grief, in your horror, and your misunderstanding, and finding out what God wants you to make of this.
And that doesn't necessarily mean, oh, you start a fund to deal with this kind of disorder or anything like that.
It might be that.
It might well be that, but it may just be that your grief is going to make you something more than you are now.
I think that that is probably true.
I always say grief is a desert that has to be crossed on foot, but you cross it with your eye on the North Star, which is God, even when you're angry with him, even when you hate him.
He's got the baby.
The baby is going to be with him and be all right.
But you will find meaning.
You will find meaning by following God across that desert of grief.
My heart breaks for you, Paul.
From Adam, dear not quite Jesus, the Lord of the multiverse, watching you over the years has helped me learn to think deeply while still living in the real world.
I don't have a question.
I just wanted you to know that you've changed my life for the better more than once.
I've been married for 18 years, and it would have ended three years ago if not for the answer you gave me the last time I wrote in.
Now my marriage and my life has never been so stable or so full of joy.
That's great.
Well, I'm glad.
I'm going to end this show with that.
It is mostly thanks to Jesus, but you helped too.
And then, see, that was so nice.
And then you ruin it all by saying, P.S., you are hilarious, but Walsh is the funniest Daily Wire host, which makes me feel that you haven't been truly saved.
I mean, you were almost there.
You were almost there.
But no, it's just simply factually untrue.
Check your facts.
Check your facts.
I'm much funnier than Matt Walsh.
All right.
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