Andrew Klavan’s Hooray for Colonialism! defends Western cultural dominance as a force of progress, mocking racial grievance narratives like NYT editor Mary Gay’s claim that American nationalism equals whiteness while praising Mark Robinson’s colorblind patriotism. He contrasts Hollywood’s pre-Hayes Code gangster films—like Scarface—with modern censorship, arguing art thrives on raw human instincts, not moral policing. Guest Spencer Clavin frames traditional values as a "remnant" against progressive decay, warning transgender ideology and critical race theory undermine natural law, while a listener’s marriage crisis exposes the tension between generosity and bodily autonomy in relationships. The episode culminates in a defense of colonialism as intellectual conquest, framing it as the antidote to what Klavan calls society’s descent into "madness." [Automatically generated summary]
President Biden's son Hunter has been exposed using the N-word and oh, what a hullabaloo of shock and indignation there hasn't been anywhere at all.
Hunter's repeated use of the foul racist slur appeared in text to his white lawyer in which Hunter also referred to God as a quote fictional character from the imagination of the collective frightened, unquote.
Which may explain why Hunter is unafraid of eternal damnation, even though he apparently uses the N-word almost as freely as he uses anti-gay slurs, prostitutes, crack cocaine, and his father's influence.
Normally, after the use of the N-word by a public figure, we could expect to see Don Lemon or Anderson Cooper or some other corrupt journalist staring fawn-eyed into a camera and pretending to fight down tears of sorrow over America's racist soul shadow or whatever crap corrupt journalists on CNN make up so they can have something to pretend to cry about with their fawn eyes.
But this time, not a single fawn-eyed corrupt journal could be seen tearing up on CNN or any other news outlet on which fawn-eyed corruptos regularly tear up over make-believe injustices that somehow cease to move them whenever they're committed by Democrats.
In an interview with the Velour Silk Shirt, Don Lemon explained that corrupt journalists were not being hypocritical when they neglected to force fake tears into their fawn eyes after Hunter Biden used the N-word.
Lemon said, quote, if this had been an obscure college teacher using the N-word while innocently discussing the anti-racist novel Huckleberry Finn, or a New York Times science writer using the N-word while innocently discussing the ethics of using the N-word, then by golly, I would have looked into the camera fawn-eyed and teared up with some of the best corrupt journalists in media.
But when the son of a sitting president who has been plausibly accused of collaborating with his father to squeeze money out of foreign powers in return for political favors uses a racial slur, well, that just shows that the Democrat Party is a criminal organization with the soul of a tinpot dictator.
And at CNN, that's what we call a banana instead of an apple.
Or possibly an apple instead of a banana.
I forget which, but who cares since I'm talking complete crap anyway, unquote.
CNN's crack media observer Brian Stelter, who once missed a deadline in order to climb into bed and have a good cry over the pandemic, thus proving there really is such a thing as a woman in a man's body, said the non-uproar over Hunter's N-word is in keeping with the best traditions of American journalism, namely hypocrisy and lies.
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Attacking Disease with Science00:15:19
There is a genre of video that goes around on Twitter of deaf kids getting and babies getting implants and then they film them as they hear their mother's voice for the first time.
And I'm going to show you a little bit of this, but I have to warn you.
I know that you think of me as a man of steel, you know, this mighty macho, immovable guy with a heart just that can't be reached, a heart of stone.
These things destroy me when I watch these.
So we're going to play this and then we'll take about 15 minutes of quiet time while I pull myself back together.
But these things, I don't know what it is about them, but whenever I see the little kid hear his mother's voice for the first time, I am just utterly destroyed.
So I'll play it for you and then, you know, I'll just sob for a few minutes and then we'll talk some more.
Hi, Dylan.
Hi, buddy.
Can you hear me?
Okay, so you need another one.
What do you think?
Can you hear me?
Really good.
Do you like it?
It's awesome.
Isn't it awesome?
Can you guys hear this?
These things destroy me.
I mean, he's a kid.
He can't hear.
And then he hears his mother's voice.
What's wrong with you?
If that doesn't move you, this is probably where you belong.
You're probably rotten enough to be listening to this show.
Now, when I look at this, the first thing after I finish sobbing into my shirt, the first thing I think is, wow, you know what?
I have forgotten there really is such a thing as science as opposed to the crap science that's constantly being thrown in our face that means absolutely nothing.
I mean, we are living in a world of wonders.
Little children can hear that.
They can hear their moms for the first time.
I'm carrying a phone in my pocket.
If Shakespeare, Shakespeare would have killed me to get his hands on this phone that has all the information in the world.
The Trump vaccine, which Joe Biden is now taking credit for, the Trump vaccine happened so fast because within seconds of some guy coughing, they had the genome.
I mean, we didn't even know what a genome was before.
Now they have the genome.
They build this thing.
You know, when they give you this vaccine, the old vaccines, they used to like, you know, when people had, what was it, smallpox, I think it was, they would scrape flesh off the guy and inject that and you got the smallpox and then that made you immune.
This doesn't even do that.
They just give you the little signal from the RNA that tells your body you have the disease without actually giving you the disease and it affects your body at such a deep level.
It changes your T cells so that now you're not going to get the disease.
You won't even get the variants.
A lot of the variants are coming out and the vaccine works against them too.
This stuff is a miracle.
It is a miracle and we don't think about it.
You know, we don't think about it at all.
You know, for most of human history, 46% of children died.
46% of children died.
Half of your children died.
I mean, this is, when you think about like the great people, you know, I'm a big fan of Wordsworth.
His children, his beloved children, dropped off like flies.
You know, they just disappeared.
And they must have been living in a constant state of trauma and grief.
Right around the late 1800s, like falling off a cliff, right?
The invention of science, the invention of medicine, the idea that, oh, you know, I have a good idea.
Let's wash our hands before we deliver a baby because they couldn't see germs.
They didn't know they existed.
Right there, like the death rate of children just dive bombs.
By 1950, it's 27%.
It's halved.
Today, it's 3% to 5% around the world.
But in a country like America, a modern country, it would be nothing almost except for abortion.
So we kill babies ourselves.
We've become worse.
But the science has been amazing.
It is science.
It is just a miracle.
And we should think about it.
We should think about the fact.
But the problem is we have to compare the science to, and I'm going to use a technical term here, crap science, which is what we keep getting hit with all the time on the news.
They just hammer us with the news and they use the authority in the same way the New York Times uses the authority of what it had because it was a newspaper once, and it's now no longer a newspaper, but it uses the authority of the newspaper, even though it's leftist tripe.
In the same way Yale uses the reputation it had when it was a great university instead of now when it is a leftist cesspit, in the same way science uses the authority, the politicians use the word science to take the authority that it gets from all the miraculous things it has in fact done and uses that to try and sell leftist garbage.
There is no existential threat from climate change.
There is zero existential threat from climate change.
Climate change is going to cause some problems.
We caused part of the climate change.
Probably, probably it's unlikely that we did all this stuff.
It's not that.
It's just all this AOC stuff.
We're all going to die in eight years.
There's nothing in the science that says that.
What it says is it's going to cost us a little money to rearrange some things.
There might be some problems.
There are no more hurricanes than there were before.
No more tornadoes.
All of that stuff is nonsense.
And when they call you a denier as if they were talking science, they're not.
They're talking crap and calling it science.
People can't change their genders.
That is crap.
That is not science.
That is just, you know, that's essentially using science as a form of torture, as a form of butchery.
And you're a science denier, if you don't want billionaires in Davos to decide how much gasoline you can use, or you don't want your business to go under so a 90-year-old won't die of COVID, or you want your kid to go to school, you're a science denier.
And of course, the guy who exemplifies this, who is the avatar of science crap, is Dr. Anthony Fauci, who has just been, you know, he just keeps saying all the, now that we've seen these emails, we know that he's essentially a deceptive, manipulative, deep state actor.
I think he fell in love with his own face on camera.
He fell in love with being on camera.
And he just, instead of telling people the truth so they could make decisions like free people, he told them what he thought would make them do what he thought they should do.
He would lie to them.
So he lied about the possible origin of the disease, about his own support for the Wuan research.
He kept changing the goalposts and lockdowns, herd immunities, masks.
My pal Steve Crowder, crazy Steve Crowder, put together supercuts of all Fauci's lies.
Here is the one about masks.
You can hear Crowder laughing in the background.
There's nine.
Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks.
You're sure of it, because people are looking really closely.
Gives them an ally.
Gives them an ally.
There's no reason to be walking around with a mask.
Let me double down.
I mean, for me as a public health official, obviously, I would like the consideration that everybody wears a mask.
If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on.
It just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective.
There are many people who feel, you know, if you really want to have an extra little bit of protection, maybe I should put two masks on.
There's nothing wrong with that, but there's no data that indicates that that is going to make a difference.
And now, now, when people have caught on, they've seen his emails.
The press is still fawning over him, telling you, oh, how wonderful you are.
But people can see with their own eyes.
They can see he's like Jeffrey Toobin from the, you know, up top.
He looks like a doctor down below.
He looks like Jeffrey Toobin.
He's naked.
Now, this is what he says when, you know, Chuck Todd is on NBC.
Chuck Todd can't figure out why people are losing faith in our institutions.
They can't imagine.
He can't imagine why people are losing faith in our institutions while he lies and while he encourages lies from Fauci.
So here's the interview.
What is your level of concern that we're going to discredit public health officials to the point of, you know, look at Russia.
They actually have a good vaccine and none of their citizens will take it because they don't trust their own government.
Right.
It's very dangerous, Chuck, because a lot of what you're seeing as attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science.
Because all of the things that I have spoken about consistently from the very beginning have been fundamentally based on science.
Fauci is science.
If you attack Fauci, you are attacking science.
In the same way, if you're attacking me, you're attacking creative genius.
If you attack me, you're really just attacking sexual magnetism.
In the same sense, when you attack Fauci, he is the science-made flesh, and you are attacking science.
And so there's this duality between science, this real thing, this way of manipulating matter that gives us these miraculous improvements in our lives, these miraculous devices, these miraculous cures, and how we perceive science, what we say about science, what we do with science.
It's an obvious dichotomy, right?
You know, there's a theory, just to give an example of how science affects the way people think.
There's a theory that whatever is the most technologically advanced machine we have at the time, that's how we think of the human mind.
So Plato back in ancient Greece compared the mind to a chariot, which was high technology.
I mean, that really was high technology.
And he said, it's like a chariot with two horses, and one horse is the things that we want to do that are rational and moral, and the other horse are the things we want to do that's irrational, and the rider has to make sure we go in the direction of the rational and moral.
And so he used that as a metaphor for the human soul and the human mind.
When the steam engine came along, when the steam engine changed everything, it was the biggest piece of, the most advanced piece of technology they had, it made sense that we started to have like Freudian theories, where essentially the mind was depicted as having this pressure from below.
Things got repressed and that repression of like sexuality and eros, that repression caused energy to come up and caused us to do other things like we paint pictures and make governments and build civilization because we had repressed our sexuality.
It was like the mind was a steam engine.
And today, obviously, we talk about computer, we talk about software and things were hardwired, but our software is this.
We can change the software, but if you're hardwired to do something, all that stuff.
When Isaac Newton published his theories in 1687, that changed the way people looked at things, right?
Suddenly you had guys like Adam Smith saying, you know, the economy doesn't need to be manipulated.
An invisible hand will manipulate the economy for the better if each person tries to better his life.
You know, that kind of, I think, derives from the ideas of Newton, that God isn't sitting around making the planets turn around, that gravity does this.
God made the world to work.
He made the world to do the things he does.
Even, I think, the Constitution, the idea that people with the least amount of government can still govern themselves just in the same way the planets move themselves around the world.
But all these things also have false effects, right?
These metaphors, these ideas that come out of science, there are our ideas.
They're not science.
There are ideas about science, and we make mistakes.
So for instance, I believe that Newton, I think it's pretty clear that Newton gave people the idea that there either was no God or that God had sort of left, what they call the dias opscanditis, that he had made the world and then disappeared.
Because if everything was working mechanically, if it didn't work, it didn't need to be adjusted, well, maybe God wasn't there at all.
Maybe it was material all the way down.
Maybe it was just a clockwork that had been left here by some strange, in some strange manner and was still running.
Maybe it didn't even need God to make the clock.
Science has generated an incredible amount of error.
I mean, I think Freud is a good example.
He speaks as if he's speaking science.
That's why his ideas caught on so much.
But when you go and actually read what he says, he hasn't got any science.
He's got a couple of patients who said a couple of things and his own ideas.
He did psychoanalysis on himself, and then he said this applies to everyone.
Same thing with Marx, trying to make the economy a science, which it really isn't, because the human mind, the human mind knows more about what a pair of shoes is worth at any given moment than any computer can ever figure out.
What does it mean when a pair of shoes in the winter, a pair of shoes on the beach, a pair of shoes in one situation, in another situation, it's going to be worth different things, but only the human mind can figure that out.
And the mistakes that we've made have been really telling, and the rise of science has caused us to do stupid, stupid things with our society.
You know, Paul Johnson makes this point in his excellent book about the modern age, the modern world, I think it's called.
But he talks about how the theory of relativity made people think that, oh, morality was relative.
Everything was relative.
Morality was relative.
Ideas are relative.
There's no absolute worth.
And he says the mistake that they made was the theory of relativity is actually not about relativity.
It's actually about things that are not relative, right?
It is about things.
It's about the speed of light, which is an absolute, and everything is relative to that.
And really, that's a better metaphor for the mind of God.
This whole idea, the whole idea that science has generated, that reason is going to guide us, that reason is the best guide we have.
It's the perfect God to all.
But it's not true.
It's not true.
It's reasonable to say, for instance, that abortion makes women's lives easier.
It's reasonable to say that you can use the bodies of non-productive people to give extra life to productive people.
That's perfectly reasonable to say it's just an atrocity.
It's just wrong.
It's just evil.
Reason is a tool.
Science is a tool.
But they don't guide us in moral matters, in matters of love and all the important things.
They just provide information.
And we, our bodies, our engendered mortal bodies, our engines for understanding life.
You don't follow science.
You don't follow the science.
You lead the science with your moral sense.
And even, you know, even when it comes to moral guides, like the Bible, the Bible is a map of morality, but only we can navigate the territory, the actual human life of reality.
The battle that we're in right now is a battle between globalism and nationalism.
I think that's the central battle what we're having right now.
It's not quite clear because we think we're battling with the left and with the right, but I think it goes way beyond that.
It's a battle between those who believe that experts should run the world, those who believe in that science, reason, is going to solve everything.
So like Obama said, if I could just close the door, if it weren't for all this darn democracy, I could just close the door and consult with some experts and come up with the solution.
And those of us who believe that the human being is a moral guide and a guide to wisdom that no machine, no reason can actually compare to.
I mean, I think that we believe that a mother dealing with her child is going to do a better job than an expert on childcare is going to do with that child.
You know, there's a terrible story, just an absolute shocking story written by Abigail Schreier in City Journal.
And you should look it up.
It's just amazing.
Abigail Schreier in City Journal.
It's about this financial consultant in Seattle.
Rockauto's Global Horror00:06:09
And he's a faithful Muslim guy.
And he's got kids.
He's got four kids, I think.
And she calls him Ahmed, but that's not his name.
It's not his real name.
And one of his kids has autism.
He's on the autistic spectrum.
And as the kid turns 13 and he starts to have problems in school and problems with girls, he gets very upset because he can't quite break through and connect like a normal kid.
And he starts to get suicidal.
So they take the kid into the hospital.
And Ahmed now gets a phone call from the hospital saying, listen, you know, we've studied your kid, your daughter, we study your daughter, and your daughter needs to be taken in for gender reassignment.
And Ahmed keeps his head, right, because he realizes he's in dangerous waters here.
And he calls up a friend of his who's a psychiatrist and a friend who's a lawyer, and they both tell him the same thing.
They say, if you go into this, this is in Washington state, he said, if you go into this hospital and make any remark that can be taken as anti-transgender, you know, transphobic, they will take your child away from you.
They will call child protective services and these evil, sick, twisted people who are running your government in Washington state are going to take this child away from you and he may be taken off and butchered in this horrific Nazi trans operations that they do on children and you'll lose him.
You'll lose control by the law, by according to the law.
You will lose control of your child and they will be free to turn him into a girl, which is kind of, you know, it's like a horror movie.
It's like a horror movie.
So Allah bless this guy, right?
This guy is a faithful Muslim and may Allah's light shine upon this guy.
He does something I'm not sure I could have done.
He keeps his head.
He keeps his head and he goes into the hospital and he says, absolutely, we're going to take this boy in for gender reassignment right away.
Absolutely.
That's what we're going to do.
They give him bad.
They say, great.
And they give him the kid.
He moves his entire family out of the state to get away from these monsters, these horror movie monsters.
That's the fight we're in.
See, the fight we're in is whether you believe that a man of faith, a loving father, is going to do the right thing by his son, or whether you believe your stupid ideas are science.
I'm science.
That's like what Fauci said.
I'm the science.
If you believe that you are the science, you are the expert, that you, who never met this kid before in your life, you are going to decide that your sick mind that has imposed this absolute horror show on the universe that has nothing to do with reality, you are going to have the the say over everybody.
And that's the that's the global vision.
The global vision is that the experts in Davos or wherever we put them at the UN, wherever we put them, are going to make the decisions for you.
You don't even have to elect these guys.
You can elect your local guys, but they're not going to have any power.
It's going to all be done for you at the top.
This is why the world is becoming a global place.
There's nothing we can do to stop that.
The world is going to be a global place.
I have a cell phone.
You have a cell phone.
I once got, I was in Afghanistan, got a call from Hollywood.
I picked up the phone and was like, hi, you know, I want to talk to you about that script.
I can't talk to you.
I'm in Afghanistan.
This is a global world.
It is going to be a global world.
But the question is, what values will it have?
Is this going to be a global world of competing nations where our idea, like this is a country of competing states, where our ideas, Western ideas, have a chance to triumph over others?
That is what I want.
What I want is a global world that has been colonized by the West.
I want a global world where the West, where Western culture rules.
I am in favor of colonialism, not violent colonialism, not conquest colonialism, but competitive ideas, a world of ideas competing, nations competing, where the best ideas win, because I know then we will have a global world, but it will be a global world run by Western standards, and that's what I'm looking for.
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The idea of colonialism, true colonialism of ideas is what is driving the left insane right now because it's happening whether they like it or not.
It's actually happening in spite of them and through them.
And I'll show you what I mean because a lot of times it's really good to step back for a minute.
You know, I like to think, what is this going to look like in 100 years?
What's it going to look like in 1,000 years?
And it's going to look very, very different, right?
You're going to see things happening in a very different way.
I have this theory.
I guess it's a theory that God works out his will, his goodwill in history, but we supply the bloodshed, right?
You know, God, God, I think like, for instance, the Reformation, the churches falling apart, going from the Catholic Church to the Catholic and Protestant Church is a way that we can work out the almost impossible conflict between the individual and the institutions that make society.
The Protestantism being more individualistic, Catholicism being more institutional.
I think that this is something that God wants us to work out in history.
God's Will and Bloodshed00:09:29
We're the ones who say, oh, let's kill each other.
Let's set people on fire if they don't believe in transubstantiation.
That'll be fun.
That'll be a good idea.
We're the ones who bring the bloodshed.
But actually, things can happen.
Ideas can spread without bloodshed.
They can just spread by simply succeeding in a competitive field.
And I think that that's the kind of globalization, that's the kind of colonialization I want to have.
And these people know, the left knows that this is going to happen whether they like it or not.
I think they know this in their hearts and they are just resisting it with everything they've got.
There was an amazing interview with Marigay.
Marigay is on the editorial board of the New York Times.
This is the same genius who backed up the tweet that said, remember after Mike Bloomberg was running for president and he spent like $500 million on ads and he failed and somebody tweeted that he could have given each American a million dollars from that and still had money left over, which is not true.
He would have, if he'd split that up among all Americans, each person would have gotten about a buck and a half.
And she pushed this.
So now she's pushing very hard this Reichstag fire idea that the left is selling, that January 6th was the, oh my gosh, the greatest threat to democracy and the greatest insurrection since the Civil War.
You know, 17 guys wearing stupid Viking helmets running around the Capitol.
And it's all about race.
And she gives this interview where she says, and this is, we have to give her courage for this.
She actually left Manhattan and went to Long Island.
And I know, I know, that's like, you know, for a New York Times reporter, that's like going into the jungle with gun and camera.
You know, that's amazing.
She went to Long Island and she had a terrifying experience.
Here's Marigay, cut five.
We have to figure out how to get every American a place at the table in this democracy, but how to separate Americanness, America, from whiteness.
Until we can confront that and talk about that, this is really going to continue.
I was on Long Island this weekend visiting a really dear friend, and I was really disturbed.
I saw, you know, dozens and dozens of pickup trucks with explicatives against Joe Biden on the back of them, Trump flags, and some cases, just dozens of American flags, which is also just disturbing because essentially the message was clear.
It was, this is my country.
This is not your country.
I own this.
She's very, this is right after Memorial Day, so she's very disturbed by those American flags.
We're celebrating the memory of those people, many of them maybe even from Long Island, who went out and died so that Mary Gay could say the stupid stuff she says.
But she's disturbed by seeing these American flags.
Now, obviously, the right just climbed down her throat for this, but the New York Times, a former newspaper, defended her.
They said the New York Times editorial board member Mary Gay's comments on MSNBC have been irresponsibly taken out of context.
That's why I played as much of them as I did.
Her argument was that Trump and many of his supporters have politicized the American flag.
The attacks on her today are ill-informed and grounded in bad faith.
My friends at the Media Research Center parked a truck with an American flag outside the Times office.
It says only the New York Times is disturbed by this flag.
But no, no, this is garbage.
What she was saying was very, very clear.
She was saying that the message of an American flag held by a Trump supporter is this is our country and America is whiteness.
Now, who says America is whiteness?
Who says it?
I didn't say it.
I didn't say America is whiteness.
The Trump supporters don't say America is whiteness.
The New York Times said America.
There are two kinds of people who say America is whiteness, the Ku Klux Klan and the New York Times, Democrats, essentially, with the Ku Klux Klan and the New York Times.
They're the ones who say we have racism in our DNA.
Our founding was in 1619 when the slaves came over.
It wasn't when we said, oh, you know, all men are created equal.
That's the founding to me.
That's not the founding to the New York Times.
The New York Times says this country is whiteness.
So if you're waving an American flag, you are essentially declaring whiteness.
Sonny Hosten said the same thing on The View.
Here she is.
I'm so surprised, actually, that she is receiving this kind of backlash.
And as Megan mentioned during the last segment, you know, when someone of color, a black woman, is telling you her feelings, people need to listen and not, you know, repudiate it and not say, well, that can't be true.
What if it's not true?
I think a black woman with one leg and a bad ear can be talking crap just like a white man who's in perfect condition.
I mean, anybody can talk garbage and she's talking garbage.
But let me just see if we step back for a little, what this actually looks like.
What are they afraid of?
Why is America white?
I mean, what if you just took race out of it?
I believe that race is a delusion.
Not that there aren't different races.
Obviously, there are different cultures.
Nobody thinks that a guy from Italy is the same as a guy from England.
They're going to be affected in different ways.
The weather affects them.
All kinds of things affect people.
But the ideas that we're talking about, the ideas that form this country, because this country was formed on ideas, out of ideas, and these ideas developed in cultures, they don't seep out of your epidermis.
They come from a million different influences, and they are part of this great conversation that we've had in Western culture, where one generation talks to another generation.
The great minds fight with each other and battle with each other.
And we let them speak.
We let them all speak and disagree so that we feel that we're going to somehow move together to a higher truth with this argument going on.
You know, to put this simply, right, there's an old expression.
Horace, I think, said it.
The poet Horace said that Rome conquered Greece and Greece conquered Rome.
In other words, Rome conquered Greece, but then adopted her culture.
They loved Greek culture so much that Rome essentially became a Hellenic empire and spread Hellenic thought and Greek thought.
Alexander the Great spread Greek thought and then Rome conquered the Hellenic world and became Hellenic too.
But then Christianity conquered Rome, right?
Rome became a Christian country and then the barbarians, the German barbarians who were the illegal immigrants of their time, Rome spent a lot of money trying to kill off these barbarians who weren't even trying to get into Rome.
They were just passing through and Rome was so afraid that they were going to come that they went out and attacked them and kept getting beat.
And these, you know, the people who think that everything is race should remember that Rome thought the German tribes were a lesser race and yet the German tribes after Rome fell went on to conquer Rome and then become the countries of Europe.
But in fact, just in the same way that Rome conquered Greece and Greece conquered Rome, the German tribes conquered Rome and Rome conquered them.
They became Romanized because they became Christianized.
They became Christian.
And becoming Christian, they got all these cultures together, right?
They got Greek culture and Roman culture and Jewish culture.
All of these things formed the countries of Europe.
It's not a race issue.
That is just God working his will in the world.
And the English version of that mix, the English version of that mix is what really formed America.
It was the fights they were having in the Reformation, the way those ideas developed in Christian thought and the Christian battle between the Protestants and the Catholics, all of that, the way that was unfolding in England really fed into the thoughts that were going on in America as America was being founded.
And so when you come into America and you become an American and you start to adopt American ideas, whether you like it or not, you are being colonized.
You are being colonized by ideas.
You're being conquered by Greeks and Jews and Rome and Christian and English values.
All of those things are becoming you.
They're becoming who you are.
So when a person of any color, of any religion, of any stripe at all, says is asking for equality, is asking for freedom, is asking for respect as an individual made in the shape of God.
Those ideas didn't come out of China.
They didn't come out of Africa.
They didn't come out of the Middle East.
They didn't come out of anything but this amalgam of influences that formed Western culture.
What the people are complaining about, right?
What these people are complaining about are they wouldn't even know to complain them if they weren't Westerners, if they weren't made in God's image, if they weren't part of the Christian panoply of history that we see unfolding.
To get the things that they want, they have to become the thing they've taught themselves to hate, and they hate it because they're racists.
They hate it because they think the most important thing about Thomas Jefferson or Socrates or anybody else is this color of their skin.
That's what they think is important about that.
And that's why they're being driven insane.
It's literally driving them mad because the thing they want is the thing they've taught themselves to hate because they are living under the delusion of race, of racism.
That is why, because racism has made them insane.
They think like, oh, that's a, you know, probably, I don't know this, nobody knows this for a fact, but probably the guy who discovered fire was black, right?
He's probably an African, maybe even a woman, maybe sitting around going, you know, I could cook that thing, that thing that Bob, the caveman, killed.
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I might be able to cook that thing.
Who knows who it was?
Are you going to live in the dark because you're a white man and you don't want to culturally appropriate fire?
I mean, that's the crazy condition they've got themselves in because they are racist.
And we are saying, no, no, no, it's all about the ideas.
And you know what?
You know what?
If the guy who came up with that idea is an Englishman and the English want to pat themselves on the back and they've done bad things, like all countries have done bad things, but they want to say, hurrah for Locke.
You know, what a great idea he had.
Great, great.
Give them the bragging rights.
They should have all the bragging rights in the world.
I just want those ideas because I want to be free, because I want to people to be treated equally, because I want people to understand that I was made in the image of God and they were made in the image of God.
And I want everybody to understand that because I want to colonialize the entire planet with those ideas for one reason and one reason only.
They're true.
They're good.
They are the good and the true and the beautiful.
And that's all there is to it.
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They are driving themselves insane.
There is a woman, Dr. Aruna Kalanani.
She is a psychiatrist.
So you already know she's nuts, right?
She's a New York City-based psychiatrist.
And she went to Yale University on a panel discussion.
And she was telling the story about how she learned to eschew whiteness, to get rid of whiteness.
This is a psychiatrist.
This is a person who's responsible for other people's mental health.
She was talking about how she learned to eschew whiteness.
She was going to her therapist, and her therapist kept saying, I'm really upset that you're so angry.
You know, I'm trying to get at some of your anger here.
And then she had this brain flash.
She realized, no, no, no, it's not me.
It's whiteness.
I'm angry.
It's not my fault.
I'm angry.
I'm angry because there's whiteness.
And she started to detach herself from all whiteness.
She said, there are no good apples in the white bunch.
This is what she said, cut 12.
White people make my blood boil.
Around five years ago, I took some action.
I systemically, systematically.
White-boosted most of my white friends.
And I got rid of a couple of white bypasses, nothing throats here.
I stopped watching the news.
Once I started, I couldn't stop.
I had less than 1% left.
It was also called a service.
I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, garrying their body and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively giftly.
Well, the sound of my sense, like I did the world of a favor.
I did the world a favor by killing any white man she saw.
She saw.
This is a psychiatrist.
This is the person I want to go trust with my mental health.
He later said she was speaking metaphorically, but she didn't sound like she was speaking metaphorically to me.
She says, the other thing she says, she says, we're now in a psychological predicament because white people feel that we are bullying them when we bring up race.
They feel that we should be thanking them for all that they have done for us.
You know, in a sense, that's true, except I don't think it's a matter of race.
I think anybody who comes to America, anybody who gets to partake of this incredible culture of freedom, of equality, of revolution, of argument, of multiplicity of ideas, anybody who gets to partake of that instead of just having to toe the line, just having to go to one church, just having to do what the Communist Party tells you to do, of having the Communist Party tell you what your social worth is if you love them and how it goes down if you don't love them.
Anybody should be grateful.
Anybody should be grateful.
Why wouldn't you be grateful?
The idea came from England.
I'm grateful.
I'm not an Englishman.
I'm grateful to the English for bringing these ideas.
I'm grateful to the Romans.
I'm grateful to the Greeks and to the Jews because I don't think of them as having acted according to their race.
They acted according to God's will and the multiplicity, the incredible number of influences that create a culture.
Unbelievable, unthinkable numbers of influences create a culture.
But they go crazy.
Here's another one.
This one I just love.
This just for laughs.
I got to read.
Dr. Donald Moss, a published author who teaches at the New York Psychoanalytic Institute.
He published a paper on having whiteness in the Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association, right?
He's a white guy.
He says, whiteness is a condition one first acquires and then one has a malignant, parasitic-like condition to which white people have a particular susceptibility.
The condition is foundational, generating characteristic ways of being in one's body and one's mind and in one's world.
Parasitic whiteness renders its hosts' appetites voracious, insatiable, and perverse.
I know that's me.
These deformed appetites particularly target non-white peoples.
Once established, these appetites are nearly impossible to eliminate.
You might as well enjoy them then, I guess.
Effective treatment consists of a combination of psychic and social historical interventions.
In other words, you have to explain.
They've driven themselves insane because racism is a lie.
Racism is a lie.
If you were made in God's image, if you believe we were made in God's image, the Bible doesn't say white guys were made in God's image or black guys.
It says everybody, everybody was made in God's image.
And if you believe that, you know that racism and a lie.
And once you start to follow that lie, you're in this bind because you hate people of a certain color, white people, right?
And yet, the culture that you're living in, that you're thriving in, that you're demanding serve you by giving you its goodness is a white culture.
If you put the race aside and say, you know, it's a culture that came from all these different places, and so what?
That's great, you know, good for them.
They're the ones who happen to be the carriers of these great ideas.
They're the ones who happen to be the conduits of these good ideas.
And now I'm going to drink those ideas down to the dregs and live an American life.
And what a lucky SOB I am, which is my feeling about it.
You can't say that because you're a racist.
So you have to hate them and yet you want to become the thing you hate.
And that is what is driving them out of their minds.
And the only solution is what I've come to call the great forgetting.
You know, this thing where we're going to forget Christianity and we think that's going to let us free to go into the future, but it's just bringing us back into the past.
Because once you let go of the truth, all you've got is lies and lies have been around forever.
Once you let go of Christianity, a Christian culture, of Western culture, of freedom and equality and Christianity, essentially the underlying values of Christianity, once you let go of that, there's no post-Christian world.
There's only going back to the pre-Christian world.
And that's the world we're in, a world of like sexual confusion, a world where babies are sacrificed for the happiness of adults, a world where racism has become hip again, right?
You know, just hate whiteness instead of blackness, and you're good.
You know, if I can, you know, and as I always say, the devil doesn't care who does the hating as long as the hating gets done.
You have to have this craziness.
You know, in California, they want to pass a law that says that when you teach mathematics, you can't teach mathematics because mathematics are too white.
And so they say that, you know, white supremacy culture is in the mathematics classroom.
If you focus on getting the right answer, if you focus on thinking in a linear fashion or showing your work, all of that is white.
Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuates objectivity.
And that's racist because that's white too.
So in other words, you have to forget the truth itself.
You have to forget reality itself in order to solve this bind they're in.
If they just let go of the racism, if they just let go of the racism, life would be a celebration for them.
You know, there's this guy I saw, and I want to play this for you just so you get a chance to hear it.
Mark Robinson, lieutenant governor of North Carolina.
He is now running for governor, which is funny because he's a great big black guy.
And the current governor, he's the lieutenant governor.
The current governor is this piece of wonder bread.
He just looks like a piece of bleached wonderbread.
He's a Democrat, but this guy is a Republican.
Here's the speech he's making to people.
He's talking about 9-11 and how the firemen ran into the danger to do the right thing.
Here's what he says.
We've got to run to the trouble, folks.
And what is the trouble?
The trouble is the Biden administration that is seeking to turn this country into a socialist hellhole.
The trouble is Antifa that wants to roam the streets and beat you into submission.
The trouble is Black Lives Matter.
It claims to care about the lives of black people, but it's turned a blind eye while violence in black communities are taking lives at a genocidal rate.
They've turned a blind eye.
That's where the trouble is, and that's what we've got to run to.
And we've got all the right in the world on our side.
And there ain't no reason to be afraid.
And there ain't no reason to not take the challenge dead on.
Because I'm going to tell you who we come from, folks.
We don't come from some weak, jellyback, spineless people.
That's not who we come from.
None of us.
And it doesn't matter what color you are, what nation your folks hail from, how much money you got.
We all share the same name.
We are Americans.
See, I get letters.
I get quite frequently get letters.
Why don't you care that we're being replaced?
Why don't you care about this move to take America away from white people?
Why don't you care that we're being inundated with nothing.
And I don't care.
I don't care.
I'm not worried about it.
I'm not worried about it at all because I don't believe in racism.
I do not do race.
If that guy, if that Mark Robinson, if he is not my brother and my fellow American, nobody is.
Nobody is.
And what I see in this world is God working out his idea, teaching us his ideas through history.
And we bring the bloodshed and we bring the hatred and we bring the bigotry and we bring the racism.
Let that stuff go.
Let that stuff go and start to deal with the ideas.
Start to search for the truth.
Start to understand what makes people thrive, what brings them closer to God, what makes them happier, what makes them free.
Start to think in those terms and all of the madness goes away.
All of the anger goes away.
I want to colonialize the world with Western culture, but I want to do it by simply showing how much joy and success that culture creates.
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So while we're talking about people coming into America and being assimilated into America and colonized, as it were, I want to talk about gangster movies.
Gangster movies are one of my favorite genres of movies.
I've sometimes wondered, to my shame, whether there is a gangster movie so bad that I wouldn't like it, but I don't think I've ever found one.
And I wanted to recommend some of the ones that I love so much.
And when I went on, made a list to look for a list of great gangster movies, they're all modern.
They're all like the Godfather and Goodfellas and The Departed and things like that.
And, you know, they talk about the Sopranos too, though it's a TV show.
But gangster films had their start in the 1930s, which was a reaction to the Roaring 20s, basically, the rise of gangland as prohibition made illegal alcohol such a big business.
And so people started shooting each other to take that business over.
And a lot of these guys who were in the gangster business were immigrants.
They were Italians, they were Irish, they were Jews.
And of course, they fed into the dislike of immigrants.
But at the same time, another thing that was growing up because of the immigrants who had been pouring in right around that time, at the end of, at the turn of the century, the 18th, the 19th into the 20th century, these immigrants had been pouring in.
And one of the things that grew up out of that was Hollywood, right?
The rise of essentially a Jewish industry that was one of the most successful and most pro-American industries ever to be made in this country.
And it's unfortunate it has been poisoned now by leftism.
But at the time, it was a wonderful industry and a great ad for America.
So Hollywood is looking at these gangsters.
And at the one point, they kind of want to prove that these are not representative of the immigrant experience.
They want to put forward their message of inclusiveness that would include the Jews who are making the movie and other immigrants who are making the movies.
But at the same time, they want to profit off the violence and the kind of romance of outlaw masculinity that gangsters represent, this kind of the freedom and sexiness of being, of having no morals, of just taking what you want.
And as these films started, three of the greatest films ever made were the first gangster films, three of my favorite films of all time.
And you have to understand when I talk about these that you have to adjust for time.
These are old movies.
They are, the acting is different.
The timing is different.
Obviously, the special effects aren't great.
So you have to kind of adjust, just like when you're reading a Victorian novel, you have to sort of adjust for the different languages, and it's the same thing.
One of the first, two of them came out at almost the exact same time, 1931.
One of them was Little Caesar, which was the breakout film of Edward G. Robinson.
I don't even know if young people know who Eddie G is anymore, Edward G. Robinson.
You may have seen him in Soylent Green.
He was in that.
You may have seen Bugs Bunny do the famous imitation of, yes, she, I'm going to take out, see?
And he was a great, great actor, made a living as a gangster, hilariously, of course.
He was a very cultured Jewish gentleman who spoke like seven languages.
But Little Caesar was based on a novel, a really good novel, by the way, a really fun novel by W.R. Burnett.
It was directed by Mervyn Leroy, one of the great early directors.
He directed I'm a Fugitive from a Chain Gang.
He helped produce The Wizard of Oz.
He was responsible in a lot of ways for the success of The Wizard of Oz.
And the problem they have with these pictures is they wanted to give you lectures about how bad it was to be a gangster, but they also wanted to capitalize on the fun violence and sexuality because this is before the Hays Code.
So they could still have people sleep together.
They could still have women in states of undress.
They're quite sexy pictures, although not this one particularly, but they are very sexy pictures.
But they wanted to show you that these guys were guys who wanted to make it good.
And when in the first scene of Little Caesar, Edward G. Robinson, who plays Little Caesar, is in this diner, and it looks very much like that famous painting you may have seen, Nighthawks, which was painted about 10 years later.
And it was said to have been inspired by a Hemingway story called The Killers, which was also a gangster story.
So it's possible this scene was also inspired by The Killers, since it looks very much like this scene.
And Eddie G is talking to his pal.
They're both petty gangsters in this outlying area.
And Eddie G is talking about how he wants to be in the big time.
And this is what he says.
Yeah, money's all right, but it ain't everything.
Yeah, be somebody.
Look hard at a bunch of guys and know that they'll do anything you tell them.
Have your own way or nothing.
Be somebody.
You'll get there, Rico.
You'll show them.
Yo, this was our last announcement.
We're pulling out.
Where are we going?
East.
Where things break big.
Where things break big.
And it's really great.
The guy who he's with says he doesn't want to be a gangster anymore.
He wants to be a dancer.
And you hear that and you think, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
But in fact, George Raft, who became a famous gangster movie star and is in one of these pictures as well, George Raft started out as a dancer and also was a driver for the mob and then went on to become an actor playing gangsters in the movies.
But you can't help identify with the guy, right?
He wants to make it big.
He's class.
He doesn't have class, but he wants to have class.
He doesn't have power, but he wants to have power.
He is capitalism without values.
I'm always saying that right-wingers took a really bad turn.
They took a wrong turn when they started pushing capitalism without underlying values, saying that capitalism was going to solve everything.
This is a picture of capitalism without values.
But you still, you root for him, even as he rises up and then, of course, falls.
And all these movies end the same way.
They all rise to the top and then they fall and get killed.
And he had this famous last line as he's lying dead.
He says, Mother of mercy.
His name is Rico.
He says, Mother of mercy.
Is this the end of Rico?
One of the funniest, one of the most famous lines in movies.
At the same time this was being made.
Jimmy Cagney was breaking out in his picture, Public Enemy.
And right afterwards, they would make a picture together.
And in Little Caesar, there's an idea that Caesar, that Rico is gay, that he doesn't like women.
He really has a very powerful relationship with another guy.
The author of the book, Burnett, complained that he had been turned gay in the film, which he wasn't in the book.
But in Public Enemy, Cagney brings this sexual dynamism to his gangster character.
He's an Irish gangster, and he has the mom who wants him to go be good and the good brother who's doing things the right way.
But he just wants everything and he wants it now.
He's a violent, angry guy, but he finds a girlfriend and they're living together.
They're not married, and he finds a girlfriend, and he finally just gets sick of her because he's about to fall in love with the platinum blonde.
And this is one of the most famous scenes in early movies.
I mean, this must be one of the 10 most famous scenes, but it made Cagney a sex symbol.
Okay, she's nagging him.
Mae Clark plays the girlfriend, and she's nagging him, and he goes off on her.
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The problem that they had with these films was that these films, and people were complaining about this all the time, and they would try and give it a moral ending, but it was not until later when the Hayes Code came in that they had to have unhappy endings, that bad guys couldn't thrive.
So we see this guy, he's got all the girls in the world, they're falling all over him, he's living with this girl.
He can kill anybody he wants.
There's something romantic and powerful about it.
And they would try and put these things like Little Caesar begins with those who live, a little card that says those who live by the sword die by the sword.
And then there is this film, Scarface.
And Scarface is directed by one of the greatest.
This is, again, at the same time, and it's all before the code.
Scarface, I think, I guess it's maybe 34.
It's a little bit later, 33.
Scarface is directed by the great Hauer Hawks, one of the greatest of all American directors, bringing up Baby.
Only Angels Have Wings.
His Girl Friday.
He just goes on the big sleep, Red River.
I mean, he was just a great, great director.
And it has Paul Muni in it.
And Paul Muni was an actor very much ahead of his time, almost a Brando-like actor.
And he plays a guy based on Al Capone.
He plays him as a, almost like an animal.
You know, he plays him as this Italian gorilla almost.
But, you know, still, he has this charm and he has this way with women.
And Hawkes loved talk-tough, talk-tuck, talk, tough-talking dames.
He loved tough-talking dames.
And they were called the Howard Hawkes woman was a tough-talking dame.
And here is Paul Muni as the gangster making it up to, what's her name, Penny or something like that.
Poppy, I can't remember.
Here it is.
Every time I see you, you look better.
That's a cute ass.
Please, my stockings.
What's a murder?
Well, don't do that, Tony.
They're brand new.
Hand up, eh?
No, feet.
You know, I know lots of girls.
Redheads and the blondes and all kinds.
They all like me.
Yeah, you're pretty good, eh?
I'm the best.
Are you going to eat by any chance?
I'm not hungry.
Except for you.
You got something I like.
Yeah, I'm nice with a lot of dressing.
You work fast, don't you, Tony?
Yeah, say, I've been waiting a long time.
I'm crazy for you.
Everybody say, Tony, come on, he's a big shot.
He got everything he wants.
Yeah, I got everything but what I want.
You understand?
I love the sexuality of him, of her saying, get off my stockings.
And we can see his hands.
And she says, hands off.
And she says, you mean feet.
In other words, he's playing footsie with her under the table and she's afraid he's going to tear her stocking.
Now, you guys may have seen Scarface with Al Pacino.
That is dedicated to Howard Hawkes and the other writer on this film.
And it steals a lot, including the weird incestuous relationship between the gangster and his sister.
But here they have this problem, right?
People are complaining.
The Hayes office is the threat of the Hayes office, the threat of a code of behavior imposed on the movies is already looming over the movie business, and they want to avoid it.
They do not want to get what they call the church ladies.
That's what they call them.
They don't want the church ladies on their back because they're afraid this code of conduct will be imposed on them and they won't be able to make sexy, violent films like this.
And these films are getting the church ladies upset.
So they're always putting messages in them.
And the messages are real in the sense that the movie industry wants to put forward the idea that we shouldn't accuse all immigrants of being gangsters.
But at the same time, they're sort of balancing off the fact that it's very romantic, dramatic, and sexy to see these guys make love to all these different women and kill anybody who gets in their way.
So they have this scene with a cop where the newspaper man wants to talk about this gangster because he's a colorful character.
And here's the cop's response.
This fellow, come on.
What about him?
A story.
Public's interested in him.
He's a colorful character.
Colorful?
What color is a crawling louse?
Say, listen, that's the attitude of too many morons in this country.
They think these big hoodlums are some sort of demigods.
What do they do about a guy like Commande?
They sentimentalize, romance, make jokes about him.
They had some excuse for glorifying our old Western bad men.
They met in the middle of the street in high noon, waited for each other to draw.
But these things sneak up and shoot a guy in the back and then run away.
I guess you're right, Chief.
Colorful.
Did you read what happened the other day?
Half of them chasing another down the street, broad daylight.
Three kiddies playing hopscotch on the sidewalk, get lead pouring their little bellies.
When I think what goes on in the minds of these lice, I want to vomit.
And by the way, this is what real cops think about real gangsters.
It actually is.
I've talked to a lot of cops.
This is exactly the way they get furious that they are romanticized in the movies because they know them.
They know their animals.
They know they kill innocent people, and they just get furious about it.
But at the same time, they're having that scene and sending that message.
They're also making the film, glorifying them.
So they also have this other scene, which I just love, where they have a meeting between the town fathers.
What are we going to do about organized crime?
And they've got the Tommy guns are coming in.
What is going to happen?
This is Cut 28.
Don't blame the police.
They can't stop machine guns from being run back and forth across the state lines.
They can't enforce laws that don't exist.
Then it's up to the federal government to do something about it.
You're the government.
All of you.
Instead of trying to hide the facts, get busy and see that laws are passed that will do some good, for instance.
Pass the federal law that puts the gun in the same class as drugs and white flavors.
Put teeth in the deportation act.
These gangsters don't belong in this country.
Half of them aren't even citizens.
That's true.
They bring nothing but disgrace to my people.
All right.
I'll tell you what to do.
Make laws and see that they're obeyed.
If we have to have martial law to do it, the governor of New Mexico declared martial law to stop a bullfight.
The governor of Oklahoma to regulate oil production.
Surely, gang rule and wholesale law defiance are more of a menace to the nation than the regulation of oil or a bullfight.
The army will help.
It's all the American Legion.
They offered their services over two years ago, and nobody ever called on them.
You get the message.
The message is do not take your political ideas from Hollywood.
But they wanted to lecture you at the same time they wanted to rake in the dough off these sexy, violent, outlaw men who are just appealing.
They're appealing to us by nature.
We can't help it.
We want to see them.
We want to see what they do.
That is why one of the greatest gangster movies is Goodfellows, because he admits that.
And that's why Shapiro hates that film because he says it's immoral.
But I don't think it's immoral.
I think he's telling us a truth about the gangsters.
All these movies would change when the Hayes office came in about four years later.
And maybe next week I'll do more about how the gangster movie changed after the Hayes office.
But for now, I just want to point out that it's not Hollywood's fault.
It's not Hollywood's fault these people attract us.
There's something very basic about the freedom, the violence, and the sexuality of them that does appeal to us, at least as an idea.
Though in real life, I think the cops are right and they're terrible people.
But we can't blame Hollywood.
It's not their fault.
It's us.
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So as you know, we like to occasionally drag this show out of the muck of white supremacy and hatred and bigotry in which we usually wallow by bringing on an intelligent and sophisticated guest.
Unfortunately, we couldn't do that this week.
I brought on my son, Spencer Clavin, no relation, who just happens to be a brilliant podcaster himself.
His podcast is called The Young Heretics.
If you're not listening to it, you are genuinely missing out.
You're also some kind of editor at the Claremont Review book, my absolutely favorite journal.
What are you, associate editor?
At CRBI, I'm associate editor.
And you are an editor at American Mind.
At the American Mind also.
Yes.
You're a busy guy.
I am a busy guy.
I have no idea how I got in here.
I just, I sort of.
I told security to stop you, but.
I have hardly the faintest recollection of the last 30 minutes even.
Somebody put makeup on.
I mean, shoveled you in.
Yeah.
You wrote a piece.
Now, this is on the American Mind Substack.
Right.
Yes.
That speaks.
This is something that is very dear to my heart, very close to what I'm thinking about all the time.
I'm just going to read you.
You've read it, but possibly some.
But again, I may have forgotten.
This is like the first graph.
It says, what a strange feeling there is in the air, the feeling of two worlds on parallel tracks.
Use whichever metaphor you like.
We are living in two Americas, watching two different movies, or else some of us have woken up and realized we are living in the Matrix.
For me, it seems as if there is an old world, definite and imposing, but brittle and frail, and a new world, vital and dynamic, but fledgling and uncertain.
There is something dying and something being born.
I feel exactly the same way.
What's being born?
Well, right.
I mean, many people feel this way, right?
This is why I wrote the piece.
I've heard this sentiment in the air a lot.
And part of the problem, I think, with talking about it is that when things are being born, when they're new, they're kind of hazy in outline.
Right.
I mean, you don't really know who your baby's going to grow up to be until it sort of reveals.
And that's kind of how I feel about all of these conversations that are happening in red state legislatures and in group chats through direct message and just people who are saying something is obviously terribly wrong.
We're obviously going through a crisis in this country.
Our institutions are falling apart.
They're crumbling under the weight of their own rot.
Let's build something else.
And a lot of times the something else is like kind of hectic.
So here's an example that I didn't talk about in the piece, but is really, I think, emblematic for me.
And that's cryptocurrency, right?
All of these new Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Ethereum.
I am by no means an economist, right?
But even I can see that our financial system is terribly broken.
And one of the ways I can see it is because a bunch of Reddit bros practically brought the whole thing crashing down around our ears not too long ago, right?
You remember this, they started shorting GameStop, essentially.
And everybody said, oh, you can't do that, you can't do that.
And they sort of responded, we're doing what everybody is doing.
I mean, this is, and so our financial system is obviously so financialized, so deep in debt, so that something new needs being done.
And cryptocurrency is kind of an answer to that problem.
We're going to sell essentially, as I understand it, to one another, these sort of secret chains of code.
And that will be where we sort of root value now in the digital age, right?
Because digital technology transforms everything.
All our government can think to do with this development is tax it.
The IRS is asking for $32 million just to devote to how do we tax people's cryptocurrency.
Elizabeth Warren is out here whining about the electricity that people use.
I mean, this is all they can think about is how to shut this down.
I mean, there are a million things.
You could look at Bitcoin and say a million things.
You could say, well, yeah, we're going to have to figure out how to integrate this into our pre-existing system.
But what if you could pay your taxes in Bitcoin?
What if we could integrate this somehow to make the dollar stronger, to make America's financial economy?
And so I'm not saying that everybody knows the answers to these questions.
I'm just saying that I'm with the guys that are trying to figure them out in real time, not with the guys that want this to just suck this into this vortex.
Right, because there's so many people who think that the answers are going to come from the top, but what you're saying is really they're going to come from the DMs, from the little places where people have secret conversations.
Yes.
And yeah, no, I think this is right.
You talk about in this article, you talk about the idea of the remnant, which is an idea you get from Isaiah.
And I want to plug your translation of Isaiah, which was the work of years.
It's on a website called rejoice-evermore.com, right?
That's right.
First of all, the translation is wonderful and fascinating.
But in each chapter, you give a little homily at the end, and the homilies are bent down.
No, it's one of my favorite parts of my day is reading your homilies.
It's really wonderful.
But in Isaiah, there's this idea that Israel has fallen into sin and has gone down the hole, but there will be this remnant that will return and rebuild the country.
And you talk about that that's what we're looking for now, that we're in such disarray, and we are in disarray, that this remnant, what's that remnant going to look like?
If you had to give me three adjectives, I mean, not to put you to the test, but I mean, what would they be?
I mean, young, based, and trad, right?
No, but if folks want to get a handle on this idea, I would commend them to this old Atlantic Monthly essay called Isaiah's Job.
It's about what's the job of the prophet, right?
And you can just Google it and find it online.
And the idea is, you know, prophets, it's not unique to Isaiah.
Prophets come up in times of decadence, times of decay.
A lot of them are speaking about before or during the Babylonian exile, which was the final catastrophe that came after the Israelites' elite had kind of abandoned the faith, had abandoned the old ways.
Then there came sweeping this terrible, disastrous oppression from foreign nations.
And the prophets were raised up to tell about this and to prepare people for how God was going to lead them back to the ancient truths.
So the remnant are basically the guys that are there for the prophet to speak to.
The prophet is born to speak to these people who still believe in the ancient divine truths.
And those include things just as basic as like, there is right and wrong.
And Isaiah says about the elite that they call good evil and evil good, which of course is everywhere, right?
We see this all the time.
Up is down, black is white, men are women, all of these things, right?
I mean, that was as much a part of Isaiah's society as it is a part of ours.
And so the remnant are even just those people who haven't bent the knee.
And the key part of it, one of the key parts about them, is that you don't know who they are or where they are.
The prophets, and this is emphasized in this essay, the prophets think that they are speaking into this void.
And sometimes they think that all is lost, that they just despair.
But in fact, says God, I know every one of them that is out there, right?
And so yeah, who are ours?
Well, there is this kind of idea, I feel like, in conservative world that to be the remnant, what you do is you cling to like the Reagan era.
You cling to libertarian market principles.
And you go out with, you lose every political fight you can, if needs must.
But this is a terrible mistake, I think.
I mean, you look at the remnant in Isaiah, and they're always described as new.
They're always described as seedlings, or like things that are growing up out of this wreckage.
And so actually, what the remnant are are the people who go back to those eternal truths.
They're not the Reagan era, but the founding era, right?
And the ancients, you know, the classics who inspired the founding era.
And so these notions of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, rightly understood, that Declaration of Independence, those constitutional liberties, those are going to get reborn in ways that we can't even foresee yet.
We can't imagine because everything is changing.
I've been talking about something on my show called the Great Freight, what I call the Great Forgetting, which is the idea that the progressives think they're progressing, but they're actually regressing.
They think they're progressing to a post-Christian era, but they're actually regressing to a pre-Christian era.
They're shedding the things that made Western culture the greatest culture that's ever existed on earth, that made the European culture the greatest culture that's ever existed, and they're forgetting it.
I can't help feeling that there is going to be some kind of reconciliation with Christianity or at least with religion, at least with theism for this to come about.
And I want to talk to you specifically about this.
I've noticed you've got your masterpiece.
Well, I knew you were going to ask me this question.
I just wanted to signal that I come in peace as you ask this question.
Well, I mean, I think, you know, a lot of this circles around sex.
And I mean, a lot of, and that's true in the Bible too, that when people start to fall apart, they start to rape angels in Sodom, you know, and people start to lose their way in terms of their sexual relationships and all this stuff.
And there's so much of this going on.
And I personally have so far kind of been disappointed by it because I'm an artist.
I've lived with gay people all my life.
You are a gay, your mother says.
Yeah, I told her, I thought she would tell you.
Conservative Christian, right?
When I supported all kinds of gay rights, including gay marriage, but I find that since this decision where a couple of judges basically said, yes, now you can have gay marriage, things have gone pear-shaped very quickly.
Masterpiece cake shop.
This is fascism to tell an artist what he has to make on his cakes, what ideas he has to put on his cakes.
This idea that children are being butchered to change their sex.
Is it possible this toleration was wrong?
I mean, once we stopped killing you, do we now have to bake you cupcakes?
Well, you should certainly bake me a cupcake.
No, but you certainly, no, you do not.
You do not have to make people cupcakes, and that's why I think it was obscene what they did to Jack Phillips.
And I know that there are going to be a lot of people out there listening to this conversation who hear you say, I'm a gay Christian conservative, and immediately say, well, there's no such thing.
I get this a lot.
I completely understand that.
I understand it both because this does represent a reconsideration of some of the things we've believed for hundreds of years.
And it's not unheard of to do that in the West, to sort of look again at, for example, ideas about slavery, which have obtained for a very long time and wonder whether they were quite right.
And so we did go through something like that in this country.
Some of it was, I would say, salutary.
But I compare it to BLM, right?
Black Lives Matter.
You and I were living in Los Angeles both when the summer 2020 hit.
And these people tore the country apart.
I was sitting in my apartment on 3rd and Fairfax and I watched them break into building after building as the newscasters said things like, well, one man's riot is really another.
Nobody looks at that event and thinks, well, it was probably a mistake to free black people and to make them full citizens.
We all see that and we immediately know this is a righteous issue that has been hijacked by Marxists.
And Marxists know exactly how to do this.
They are very good at it.
They talked about doing it all throughout the 60s and 70s, right?
This cultural turn of Marxism that they were going to use to drive people against each other.
They did exactly that in Masterpiece Cake Shop.
I mean, this is something that people forget, right?
This was not just an organic, oh, I need a cake for my wedding.
Where am I going to go?
This was, they targeted this man.
They knew that he had refused to bake for other situations, for divorce parties, for a number of celebrations that he found immoral, which is absolutely his right as an American and as a man created by God, right?
And they walked in there and immediately basically blew this up into this enormous ACLU case.
They did the same thing, by the way, with the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
After that law was written, they would go into cities and find places where they could generate conflict over employment issues, for example, and make up issues of race.
And so leftists are very, very good at hijacking these things and turning them into.
And the real problem there is that now, right, in real communities where people are actually trying to figure out how to live together, the natural, the best way to do that is in relationship between individuals.
I have a million friends, probably the majority of my closest friends, began our relationship thinking that I was living in terrible sin.
And the first hurdle that I had to get over with them was just explaining that I didn't hate them or think that they were evil.
And the reason for that is not because there's anything inherent in being gay that means you have to hate people that think it's sinful.
The reason for that is Masterpiece Cake Shop, because there are these goons, these Marxist goons, turning everything into this enormous, you know, earth-shattering catastrophe where you're evil if you oppose the regime.
But then let's talk about that bigger issue though.
I mean, you and I both read this book by Carl Truman, what was it called, The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self, in which he starts out by talking about transgenderism and how did we get to this crazy place where we're saying men can become women.
And he says his argument, he's a Christian theologian, and he says that changing our ideas of sexuality are not just ancillary to Christian thought.
They're at the core of Christian thought.
And I'll read you a quote.
He says, we need to realize that our identities are not fundamentally or primarily sexual in any way.
We're rooted in the image of God, rooted in our union with Christ.
That brings with it a framework of sexual behavior.
Celibacy outside of marriage, chastity within it is an important part of who we are and how we are to behave.
And by marriage, he means the lifelong relationship between a man and a woman.
Can you, can we accept you?
Can we not thank you, kill you?
No, I mean, look, we can be friends, but we have to cast you out of our churches in order to still believe in the Christ who is Christ.
Well, I want to say at the outset, right, that you have every right to cast me out of your church.
I mean, I am not, I recognize that part of what this movement entails, what conservative gay Christianity entails, is a reinterpretation and a rethinking of things.
And part of the problem is that people stride in with this entitlement, right?
But no, like I'm coming into the house of Western culture, right?
And they do things a certain way here.
And I'm basically asking to be given a little room in that house.
Now, I agree very much with Truman that our identities are not fundamentally sexual.
And that's, I think, the most powerful part of the book is he just points to this Freudian turn, which was sort of combined with Marxism, where everything became about sex.
To me, the big divide on this issue and the big sort of prerequisite for engagement and conversation is not between right and left, not between conservatives and liberals, but between people who think that what we're talking about is all about sex, is all about your physical desire and your lust, and people who understand that what we're talking about is a kind of love, a kind of way that people fall in love.
And Truman's absolutely right.
That's so much more enormous than sex.
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And so on the right, you get these, well, you just want to sort of bend the Bible because that you can sleep with who you want to.
And you get reduced to these very physical acts, essentially.
You want to do this act.
It's really much more complicated than that.
My nature is not sexual, but think about what a totalizing thing it is to fall in love with somebody.
Think about the way that you like the way that she laughs, you like the smell of her hair, and things that you can't even describe.
If you're somebody like me, and again, I mean no offense, but I also cannot tell a lie.
I must be honest about what my experience of human life has been.
I have only ever fallen in love with men.
And so you can say of me that that means I must simply not know romantic love.
I think that I don't agree with the biblical arguments for that, which we may have to get into another time.
That's a little long conversation we can touch on.
But then on the left, you have people who think the exact same thing, who think that this is about sex, right?
This is pure material, just bodies, just let body.
And somewhere in the middle, among sensible people who are trying to live together in community, there are folks who know that this is about forming a decent, respectable, upstanding way of falling in love and shaping your society.
Look, I mean, that doesn't mean that you have to redefine the word marriage, right?
It does not mean you have to sort of say instantly, oh, marriage has always been just two people.
No, marriage is a gendered thing.
But it does mean that you might want to work with gay people to figure out some sort of institution that they can enter into that will be lifelong and committed and monogamous so that they don't just get cast out into the wild, right?
To like do the, I mean, the terrible things that gay people do sexually sometimes, not always because they're excluded, but sometimes because, you know, there is no, anyway, so this is, this is essentially my answer to Truman.
Yeah.
Yeah, because when you exclude people from society, you exclude them from the moral order of society.
You called me dog and now.
Yeah, yeah.
We're out of time, but I just, right now, our president is an idiot.
Our press is corrupt.
Our music is trash.
Our movies are trash.
We have no arts worthwhile.
I love the arts and I'm not seeing anything new that really moves me.
Where do you look for hope, briefly?
Well, I look actually right around me, into my immediate surroundings.
This was an insight that I found during the aftermath of the presidential election, which was probably my bleakest moment politically.
It was in the middle of COVID.
The election had gone terribly wrong, all of these things.
And I noticed that my emotional life was really closely keyed to these big ideas I had about where the country was going and not keyed to what was going on immediately around me.
Yeah, that's smart.
Immediately around me, right?
That's smart.
In my immediate life, I have a deeply loving, committed partner whom I adore.
I have a job that fills me with passion every day.
And I have people who are working in my community to try and figure out how to ban this critical race theory nonsense, to protect children from the predations of the trans lobby, all of these things, right?
That's where I find hope.
And I actually think that's more real than Twitter.
So, you know.
Excellent.
Great talking to you.
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Yeah!
I wish I could forget.
All right, from Melvin, dear Clavin the Wise, I'm a 29-year-old man, and I've recently gotten serious about looking for a potential wife.
I'd really like your opinion on a discussion I had with a friend of mine recently.
He asked me what qualities I believed a good wife should possess.
I admit I struggled with this question quite a bit, which is why I would like to hear your opinion.
Thanks a million.
You know, a really good question because feminism has made it sort of like insulting to think there actually is such a thing as a good wife, but of course there is.
Wife is a job.
It's a position.
I think it's an elevated, very high and honorable position.
But it, just like any position, it entails rights and responsibilities.
Of course, it all begins with you.
I mean, it begins with what you want and what you're looking for, who you hit it off with, that kind of magical thing that nobody can actually tell you anything about when you find yourself with somebody and you just want to be with them and you're laughing all the time.
And everything is interesting, as a girl once said to me, when you fall in love, everything is interesting that you're talking about.
And I think that that is all obviously stuff about you.
And also, what kind of life do you want to live?
I mean, this is something that people should talk about before they get married.
It really is.
Is it a family life?
Is it a life with kids in it?
Or do you want to be a shallow, empty, people with a dog and a nice car who take big vacations but have nothing in your life of value?
Totally up to you.
Don't let me influence your ideas.
But if you want children, if you want those children to have a mom, that's a life that you're going to have to, you know, that you want your wife to want, not to force upon her.
And it's a life you're going to have to think about and how you're going to get it and what sacrifices you're going to make.
You're going to have to make sacrifices no matter what life you choose.
And so you're going to want to have a woman who shares those values.
She doesn't have to agree with you about everything, but she has to share those values.
But I think in more general, I'm a guy who likes, I like feminine women, right?
One of the things I love about my wife is she passes through a room and magically suddenly there are flowers all over the place and everything looks better.
I pass through a room and everything's broken.
I'm like living entropy.
So she restores everything she goes through.
She's a very feminine person.
And because I don't bring a lot of that energy to the table, that makes us a really good match.
And we've had a really great time together.
If that's not what you're looking for, you should know.
And you should know you can examine your daydreams and examine the honesty of your daydreams.
When you daydream about a woman, what is she like?
Is that true?
Would you like, you know, you might daydream, I'd really like just a woman who's just dumb, you know, like, and then you think, well, no, actually, that would be boring over time.
You know, you question, you can question your daydreams, question your desires.
But still, I think the one thing that is really important more than any is a wife should be devoted to the project that you have in mind.
And if you conceive of that project as a joint project or a project that you are mostly going to do, I think you want a wife who is devoted to it.
You don't want a wife who says, okay, if you want kids, we'll have kids, right?
You don't want that.
You want somebody who knows how to talk and to laugh instead of fighting.
You want to avoid drama, which is a more feminine flaw than it is a male flaw, but it is no good for relationships.
You don't want drama in your relationships.
You want communication and talking and affection and sympathy.
But, you know, listen, it's hard for me to say because everybody likes something different, but I like women who are women.
I like women who are sympathetic, tender, kind, who love beauty, who bring beauty to the table, who bring kindness to the table.
And I want that devotion that I think that women are capable of that men aren't.
So you have to decide for yourself, but you have to examine yourself first and know what kind of life you want.
From Andrea, dear mastermind of Clavanon, this is an embarrassing question, but one I've been struggling with for 10 years of marriage.
My husband has strange demands in the bedroom.
Sometimes what he wants makes me nauseated.
I've given in frequently, but eventually it starts a fight when I want to take a break.
I'm not a prude, and I have a hard time believing most women would comply with his requests.
It has gotten to the point that my sex drive has significantly decreased.
That is the only thing we fight about.
We have two young daughters.
He's a good father, and I love him so much.
What do I do?
Do I give into the things he wants or holds my ground?
Well, the answer to this is simple, but it's not easy.
And I have to tell you that just from what you say in this letter, it's hard for me to see a passage to a good outcome here, or it's certainly not an easy outcome.
Let me start by telling you my attitude.
This is my general attitude.
This is not an answer to your question in any way.
This is my general attitude.
My attitude is that there are sexual obligations in marriage.
In marriage, you should be generous about sex.
You should be willing to try things that delight your partner.
You shouldn't worry about being in the mood.
You shouldn't worry about things that maybe you have to get used to.
You should try and bring joy and pleasure to your partner in the bedroom.
And I think probably sometimes that entails more responsibility on women than it does on men because men are more immediately sexual and they're crazier.
Men have crazier desires.
I'm generalizing, obviously, but men have crazier desires than women, so women have to be a little bit more patient.
Having said that, I point that out because I feel that this is not that situation.
I'm taking you at your word.
When you tell me you're nauseated and you're not a prude, that makes me think that this guy is into something that is really unpleasant, really difficult and really ugly.
And no, I'm sorry.
No, you are not a blow-up doll.
You are a lady.
You're not just a lady.
You are the lady of the house, which is, as I say, an elevated position and deserves elevated treatment.
And you should not be made to feel sick to your stomach in bed.
I mean, a loving husband does not make you feel sick to your stomach in bed.
He doesn't make you feel humiliated, and he doesn't hurt you either.
You know, all of those things are subject to choice and to attitude.
You may have an attitude where what nauseates one person doesn't nauseate another.
And again, I think you should be generous and broad-minded, but I'm taking you at your word that this is really something that a normal person would find disgusting.
And no, I don't think that that's something that you have to endure.
I genuinely think it's a form of abuse, actually.
I think it's a form of abuse if you are taking your wife to bed and she is feeling humiliated or disgusted or injured.
And so what bothers me about this, and the reason I say I'm not seeing a good way to a good outcome, is that you say that when you don't want to take a break, you get into a fight.
You know, this is something you should be able to talk about with sympathy from both sides.
I sympathize with him.
I sympathize with him.
I know how powerful, obviously, the sexual drive in men is.
It is, especially when you're younger, it is a rocket ship.
You know, it is something that really can drive you insane.
And if you are in the awful situation of wanting to do something that the woman in your life doesn't like, that is very tough because if it's a fetish, which is what it sounds like to me, it's the only thing that'll satisfy you.
So I think you're going to have to sit down and talk to him in a sensitive, non-combative way.
Tell him that you feel just terrible.
It's making your sex life bad.
And that he may have to solve this with pornography.
He may have to solve this with therapy.
But he should not be making the lady of the house feel nauseated and humiliated in this way.
That is not something that should be happening.
And you need to talk it through and not fight it out.
You don't want to fight it out.
You want to talk it out as two partners in life who are traveling together through life with sympathy.
It's a tough situation.
Dear Almighty Lord, this is from Wilhelm.
Dear Almighty Lord and Mortal Emperor of Clavinan and all the universe, I was for a time in my life part of a neo-Nazi group, part of neo-Nazi groups, despite feeling I'm a rational person.
And it's not because I hated Jews.
I have Jewish family and friends and some survivors from concentration camps.
I join with them because I truly fear the left will move to genocidal campaigns against all descendants, all disagreeing thought in the not-so-distant future.
Seeing leftism infect the Marines while I was in and seeing it in the streets when I got out pushed me to join the only group that seemed to be willing to use the same violence they use against us.
In my time there, I found many that were not hating Jews and even pro-Jew, but many of us were simply seeking a way to stop the left's madness.
This goes on, but he says ultimately he got out and helped other people get out, and he is now part of a movement in Germany that is trying to restore monarchy to Germany.
And his question is, I know you are all-knowing and omnipotent.
That's true.
So please, O Lord of Clavinan, please save us all.
He says, how do I stop good conservatives from becoming as extreme as I once did?
That's his question.
First of all, I want to congratulate you on getting out.
I mean, some people get sucked into those things and they can't face the mistake they've made and don't get out.
I'm glad you got out.
I'm glad you found a more healthier way out.
And, you know, you obviously don't want to act out of hate, but you don't want to act out of fear either.
I know that there are people on the left, a lot of people on the left, who would like to eliminate the right.
And I don't know if they want to do that through violence, but I think that there are a lot of people.
But is that really going to happen?
Just because people want something to happen and just because you're afraid of it doesn't mean it's going to happen.
And I think you may be jumping the gun.
It is a sin to commit violence in anticipation of someone else's violence.
I know that the left has gotten violent.
I know BLM is violent.
I know Antifa is violent.
But is this a violence that really calls for a violent movement to counter it?
Or can we do this through the law?
I think those are things you really have to think about.
I know a lot of people, you seem to have given up on democracy.
You want to restore monarchy.
I know a lot of people on the right feel this way.
I think we're jumping the gun.
I think that democracy and at least republicanism and freedom have a good century left in them.
But if you feel this way, you have the right to do what you're saying.
Simply act in love, act with joy, and people will follow and spread your message to those who are willing to hear it.
And people will follow you in to a more constructive method.
But I think you yourself should think about whether or not you're acting out of fear.
Whether just, again, just because people want to do something and just because there are bad people and just because sometimes those bad people do things doesn't mean you have to react in fear and think that they are going to win.
That's not necessarily the case.
I have to stop there.
We'll be back again next week.
You won't be here because the Clavenless Week is upon you.
It is like a crushing darkness falling like an avalanche of a night upon you and you'll be crushed underneath it.
But if you manage to crawl through the rubble and get back here, we will be back again next Friday.
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