Andrew Klavan dissects the left’s war on Black Lives, mocking CNN’s "master bedroom" slavery claim while exposing media bias—from demonizing Trump to mourning ISIS leader al-Baghdadi as a scholar. He contrasts DOJ’s MS-13 crackdown with Portland riots, blaming Democrats for enabling chaos, and slams the Smithsonian’s redefinition of "whiteness" as oppression, calling it destructive racial resentment. Sebastian Gorka joins to detail his return to Trump’s National Security Education Board, framing the 2024 election as a fight against China and deep-state sabotage, with polling dismissed as unreliable. The episode ends with a call to resist progressive disintegration, promoting Shapiro’s How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps as the antidote. [Automatically generated summary]
CNN has published an article about everyday words and phrases that might be misconstrued as racist by CNN.
The one-time leader in cable news and current punchline to the old joke, what starts with C and ends with N and is dishonest, issued the article in the hopes of filling the space between two other articles.
One entitled, I Hate Trump So Much I Think I Gave Myself a Hernia, and the other, a public service featurette on how to tell the difference between Jim Acosta and a lawn gnome.
The article starts off by pointing out the tragic link to slavery in the phrase, master bedroom.
Yes, I know what you're thinking.
You're thinking, Clavin, you incorrigible rap scallion.
We know you regard CNN as a steaming pile of CNN, but that's no reason to make up stories that are even stupider than the stories on CNN.
But no, this is absolutely true.
The article says of the term master bedroom, quote, and this is a real quote, while it's unclear whether the term is rooted in American slavery on plantations, it evokes that history, unquote.
Now you may laugh while rolling over and over on the floor, clutching your stomach and shouting, ma, come in here and see how stupid CNN is.
But who can deny that when one thinks of the phrase master bedroom, you can't help but imagine the miserable rows of enslaved bedrooms singing bedroom spirituals as they labor tirelessly in the bedroom fields.
CNN also cites the terms blacklist and whitelist, saying in another real quote, though the origins of those terms don't appear to be directly connected to race, some argue that they reinforce notions that black equals bad and white equals good, unquote.
After reading the phrase, some argue, we at the Daily Wire actually went in search of someone who would make this argument.
The hunt ended at a small patch of grass outside the CNN building where we encountered a lawn gnome or possibly Jim Acosta.
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And if you do see what I mean, I hope you'll explain it to me.
For a long time, I've spoken to you about a news media trick that we'll call the Katrina effect.
The news media has become so corrupt and dishonest during the presidency of Donald Trump that we might forget how corrupt and dishonest it was under the presidency of George W. Bush.
But we shouldn't, because during the W administration, just like now, everything W said was a scandal.
Every assertion he made was a lie.
Every mistake he made was a tragedy.
And because none of that was true, no one paid any attention at first.
And then came Hurricane Katrina.
The hurricane flooded New Orleans and destroyed some poor black neighborhoods, an event that had nothing whatsoever to do with George W. Bush.
It was a catastrophe largely caused, first by the hurricane, but also by 100 years of Democrat corruption, which had diverted federal funds meant for infrastructure into the pockets of Democrat politicians.
But the news media managed to fill the airwaves with so much hysteria and panic, fake stories of cannibalism and murder, all of which they blamed on W. Finally, their years of blaming Bush for everything took hold in the public's mind.
It was like lighting a match in a room full of gas, and I do mean gas.
The same is exactly true now.
The exact same thing is happening now.
Everything Trump has done up to this moment has been a scandal in the press.
His words have been taken out of context to make him sound a racist.
Normal political shenanigans he's done has been criminalized.
Remember, even when he killed that murdering terrorist scumbag, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the press mourned this guy as an austere religious scholar and declared that Trump has led us to the brink of war.
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Then there was no war.
They just forgot it and moved on to the next scandal, the color of his tie or some malaria medicine he was touting or whatever.
Now there is a genuine pandemic crisis, which Trump had nothing to do with.
He has had nothing to do with this.
His administration has had the usual miscommunications and foul ups and also many, many successes that the left tried to turn into scandals as well, okay?
But the hard work of lying that the press has done all these years has finally paid off and people are blaming Trump for what's not his fault.
It's the Katrina effect.
The press, meanwhile, is pushing Biden, a brain-dead puppet of the violent, racist far left, down this country's throat.
And they're using this Katrina effect to get what they want.
And if they succeed, this nation, formerly known as the United States of America, will become just one more colony in the empire of lies.
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He is back in the administration.
We're going to find out if he does have now the nuclear codes in the field.
He just doesn't have to tell us the whole code, just like four numbers, and then we'll guess the rest.
You know, last week I was doing Shapiro show.
I was filling in for Ben, and I had Kellyon and Conway on, and I told her that Trump should fire Brad Parscow and get more people in who think outside the box, and this is what Trump does.
So we are obviously secretly running the Trump campaign.
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And I want to talk about the fact that I think the Trump campaign is just now organizing and getting started, and they're starting it on the push for law and order.
There has been, really now for six weeks, there have been riots ongoing in some cities.
I mean, if you're in a place where that didn't happen, great.
But if you're in Portland, this is all that's been going on.
And the authorities, the people who were elected to run these cities and run these states have been doing nothing as if it were somehow democratic for a group of thugs to take over portions of these cities and portions of these states and run them themselves.
And they keep saying, well, that's what democracy looks like.
No, it's not.
That's what the mob looks like.
That's what violence looks like.
And Trump has really, you know, if you read the newspapers or however you get your news, pills probably probably take a news pill.
But if you take a news pill right now, you will not be hearing anything about what Trump has been doing.
But he has been cracking down in a law and order way, and he is about to make a big law and order move.
We don't know what it is yet, but he's about to make this big move.
And if you want to watch how the news media uses this to turn reality good policy into scandal, just keep watching because you'll see it all.
And what I want to examine today is like how effective this is, because, you know, it really is an amazing thing.
This is something I've seen before, the riots, the dysfunction in the country, the dislike for the country, the dislike of people telling you that this country is essentially bad when obviously this country is filled with people, so it's essentially sinful and broken.
But it is an essentially great country based on great ideas that has produced more freedom, more wealth, more power than any country ever on the face of the earth.
It's really a wonderful, wonderful place.
There's nobody trying to swim from here to Cuba.
There's no one trying to escape into Russia or into China, except for college professors who are taking our information and leaving the country with it.
But no one's doing that.
Everybody's trying to get in.
That's why the left is constantly saying we have to open the borders.
We have to have no borders.
We have to have no security because everybody is trying to get in.
This is an essentially a great country.
And I've seen this before.
And the question that's being asked now, and it's a fair question, it's a fair question, in the intervening time since the 60s, has the culture so poisoned the mind of Americans that they now hate themselves so much that they'll no longer defend their own country from attack from within.
Some of the things that you may have heard about, you may not, there have been two, I think in the last two days, maybe three days, there have been two federal executions, two executions on the federal level.
This is the first, I think, in 17 years.
It's been a long time.
One was a white supremacist who had, he had executed, he had murdered three people.
I think he wiped out a family.
The other was a guy who had kidnapped and destroyed a 16-year-old girl.
They were both put to death.
And I love one of the lawyers.
This is after like 20 years.
They committed the crimes 20 years ago.
And one of the lawyers said, this is a rush to judgment.
But the other thing that happened is the Justice Department made new moves on MS-13.
Now, do you remember MS-13?
This is a savage, savage gang, right, that has come out of mostly out of El Salvador.
These are people the Democrats let in through our poorest borders.
They didn't do anything.
Neither did Republicans to stop people from coming in.
And these are a brutal, brutal gang.
And now the Justice Department has charged an alleged leader, a guy named Melgard Diaz.
They have charged him with terrorism, and they're asking the death penalty for other MS-13 people.
Now, here's Bill Barr describing this organization and why it's different than others.
This is an incredibly violent organization, but it doesn't make a lot of money compared to other drug-dealing gangs.
And William Barr, the Attorney General, explains why.
MS-13 is somewhat unique in this sense.
They have the street savagery that you would see in a gang.
It is not driven by commercial interests, the way, for example, the mafia traditionally was.
It's about honor of being the most savage, bloodthirsty person you can be and building up a reputation as a killer.
So this is, in some ways, is a death cult.
And then they use the terror that they cause by their savagery to extort.
And they've gotten increasingly into human trafficking and now narcotics trafficking.
So I just want to point out how this is filtering into the public mind.
I couldn't find this story.
The Washington Post covered it.
The Washington Post covered it.
But I couldn't find the story.
Now, I want to remind you, I think it was two years ago, Trump called these people animals.
He said that this gang is a gang of animals, which may be unfair to animals.
But Nancy Pelosi thought it was unfair to MS-13.
Here's what Nancy Pelosi said at the time.
When the President of the United States says about undocumented immigrants, these aren't people.
These are animals.
You have to wonder, does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?
These are not people.
These are animals.
The President of the United States.
Every day that you think you've seen it all, along comes another manifestation of why their policies are so inhumane.
Now, you might think, well, nobody could be stupid enough to believe that besides a Democrat.
But of course, since the press is all Democrats, they doubted this.
They basically turned this into some kind of controversy.
I mean, here's Nancy Pelosi, like, you know, this kind of desiccated, soulless pal who'll say anything to get a political advantage for her policies, attacking Trump for calling MS-13 animals.
I mean, that really did happen.
This is just like the Washington Post saying that this terrorist was an austere religious scholar.
And so this is the stuff that's been pumped in to this society and through the minds of America all this time.
It's been going on.
Okay, so now, now what's happening?
Now we have all these incredible things that are happening in our cities, right?
I talked about Portland.
In Portland, they have been rioting literally for six weeks.
Trump has sent in federal troops to defend federal buildings, okay?
It's sent in federal troops to defend federal buildings.
One protester saw a tear gas canister come out and kicked it back toward the next, toward the police, toward the federal police.
And the next one, I don't know if it was a canister, it was some kind of canister, smacked the guy on the head, and he had to go to the hospital.
And that became the problem.
That became the scandal.
So here is Ted Wheeler, the mayor of Portland, and the governor of the state.
Here's their reaction to this, and they're attacking Trump.
They're attacking Trump and the federal government and saying the federal troops need to go.
I want to make it very clear so that there's no confusion.
The serious injuries sustained by Donovan LaBella at the hands of a federal officer were unacceptable.
I don't believe that President Trump ordering troops to the streets in Portland is the solution to the challenges we're facing.
And I would ask Portlanders to not take the bait.
So the problem is Trump, right?
And remember, these federal troops are in there defending federal buildings that the Portland police are not defending.
That's why they're there.
And they're saying, oh, get these people out of here.
So here's Trump's response at this thing about MS-13 at this press conference with Barr about MS-13.
Here's what Trump had to say about what's coming down the pike next week.
We don't have details, but this is obviously going to be a lynchpin of his campaign.
They've been run very poorly, these cities, whether it's Seattle, where we were getting ready to go in and they decided to go in, and that's good.
Minneapolis, where we had the National Guard go in.
And as soon as they did that, we straightened that mess out.
They should have been able to do it locally with their police.
Their police are good.
They were told not to do anything.
Or many other cases.
We're doing a great job in Portland.
Portland was very rough, and they called us in, and we did a good job, to put it mildly, many people in jail right now.
But we have other cities that are out of control.
They're like war zones.
And if the city isn't going to straighten it out, if local politicians, or in this case, don't say this for political reasons.
They're all Democrats.
They're liberal, left-wing Democrats.
And it's almost like they think this is going to be this way forever.
It is like that.
It is like that.
And they think, and they really, I mean, they think that this is somehow acceptable from people who were elected to run the city.
These protesters weren't elected to run the city.
This thing about mostly peaceful violence, the mostly peaceful violence that's been going on, really reminds me of a guy who says, well, we have a mostly peaceful marriage.
I only beat my wife, you know, once or twice a year.
So it's mostly peaceful.
It's mostly peaceful.
I mean, it's ridiculous, right?
Violence wipes out everything else.
It wipes out all the peaceful.
It wipes out everything else.
And they're holding the city hostage.
So Brian Williams on MSNBC, the disgraced guy who is now is punishment for his disgrace.
They didn't know how badly to punish him.
So at first they fired him.
They thought, now, that's not disgracing him enough.
A guy who lies as much as Brian Williams has really needs to be disgraced.
So they put him on MSNBC.
And what he did was he ran clips of George Wallace, the famous racist governor, the Democrat.
He ran clips of George Wallace saying law and order and then played them with Trump saying law and order as if law and order were inherently racist.
Now, this is the thing that they have been pushing.
The left has been pushing this since the 60s, but it didn't used to be the news media.
See, it didn't used to be governors.
It didn't used to be mayors pushing this.
This is why I think it's fair to ask the question.
In the 60s, when Richard Nixon ran on Law and Order, he won by a landslide the second time.
He won huge, and the Trump and the press had to come up with Watergate, basically, to get rid of him.
But the question is now, has this pollution, this cultural pollution that I've been complaining about and yelling about for all these years, has this so affected the American mind that they are willing to sit and let this happen.
Here's Trump's ad about Biden and what he's doing about the police.
The radical left-wing mob's agenda, take over our cities, defund the police, pressure more towns to follow, and Joe Biden stands with them, cutting police funding.
Yes, absolutely, eliminating cash bail, letting criminals back on the street.
Violent crime exploding.
Innocent children fatally shot.
Who will be there to answer the call when your children aren't safe?
I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.
That's going to be the campaign, I think.
And we're going to see whether or not this resonates with a nation that has been taught for 60 years to despise itself on racial grounds.
And that's what I want to really talk about and really focus on.
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So here's something that was put out by the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture about whiteness.
Now, I have a lot to say about this, and I want to make my position very clear, all right?
I believe that racism is wrong.
I believe that everybody has tribalism in his heart that sometimes is expressed as racism in the same way every man has lust in his heart, every woman has envy in her heart, we all have sins in our hearts, but we don't act on them.
We know that they're there, we know we speak to God, and God knows that they're there, and He knows that our pretenses are just pretenses, our sanctimony is just sanctimony.
He knows when we're pointing at other people, we're just trying to turn God's eyes away from ourselves because God knows what's in our hearts.
We all know we have these things in our hearts.
Once you get to that assumption, you can only treat people according to the way they behave.
That's it.
That's it.
We all have it.
You're not exempt from racism if your skin color is darker than mine.
You're not exempt from racism no matter who you are, if you've been oppressed.
And you know, one of the devil doesn't care who does the hating as long as the hating gets done.
So, if racism from white people has made you racist against white people, you have essentially joined the pool of hatred, and the devil does not care.
He just doesn't care.
Okay, so that's my position.
That is why I am an idea colonialist.
I believe that the best ideas should colonize every culture.
They came from white people, great.
They came from British people, terrific.
Good for the British.
Give them one of those little plastic trophies, best culture ever, and take their ideas.
We take them anyway.
We take those ideas anyway.
I'm working on a computer that was made by what invented by white males.
I'm on the internet, invented by Al Gore.
You couldn't get a whiter male than that, right?
I use cars invented by white males, air conditioning, white males, all those ideas.
I use them because they're good ideas.
I don't care who invented them except to say, well done, and thanks.
I am an idea colonialist.
And by the way, I think that this is what's happening.
The people who are pushing this race hatred that we're getting from the Smithsonian, the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture is pushing racism.
They're pushing it because of ideas they get from white British males.
Ideas of freedom, ideas of justice, ideas of equality that came out of that culture to our culture and now have become part of their culture because they're here.
That's it.
It's the ideas.
It ain't the color of the person who did it because that's racism.
So here's what this flyer says.
I don't know.
It's their course basically on whiteness.
Whiteness and white racialized identity refer to the way that white people, their customs, culture, and beliefs operate as the standard by which all other groups are compared.
Whiteness is also the core at the core of understanding race in America.
Whiteness in the north.
Can you imagine just switching this over?
You know, blackness is, you know, I just, if I was talking about blackness now, I would just have to take out my teeth.
But instead, it's whiteness and the normalization of white racial identity throughout America's history have created a culture where non-white persons are seen as inferior or abnormal.
Okay, now in order, this is like putting on a pair of glasses so you don't even know what you're looking at.
In order for this to be true, in order for this to be true, what you have to say is that the ideas that these people are pushing, which are American ideas, they're British Anglo-American ideas, ideas of justice, ideas of racial equality, a Christian idea, also perpetrated by white males, the ideas of equal justice before the law, all of those ideas are bad.
They're bad, except they're good.
They're pushing those ideas because they're good, but they're not mentioning the fact that those two are white male British ideas, right?
So they're saying that these are the things that have been normalized.
So what is it they complain about?
Let's take a look at what this evil white culture is, okay?
What does it include?
Rugged individualism.
The individual is the primary unit, self-reliance, independence, and autonomy, highly valued, rewarded.
Individuals assumed to be in control of their environment.
You get what you deserve.
Okay, so that's whiteness.
That's the evil idea of whiteness.
Now, I look at the black family now, which has been decimated by Democrat policies because they were paid essentially to have children out of wedlock.
They were warned this was going to happen by their fellow Democrats.
Democrats said this is going to destroy the black family.
Didn't matter because the feminists were in charge and said the family doesn't matter.
Fathers don't matter.
What are we talking about?
A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.
Don't even worry about it.
Now, more black children are born out of wedlock than during slavery days when Democrats were actually selling families to different places to break up the family.
They finally succeeded through the great society policies, right?
This is incredibly destructive.
So now they're saying, well, that family thing, that family thing, it's just whiteness.
It's just whiteness.
You got to understand, see, you're like a fish.
They keep saying this.
You're like a fish swimming in water.
You don't even see the water you're swimming in.
This family stuff, this family stuff is just whiteness.
They might as well just go in, seriously, the Smithsonian African American Museum might as well just go in and poison the water in black neighborhoods.
This is the most destructive, vicious, toxic thing you could possibly say to people who need one thing more than they need anything else, which is fathers.
They need intact families.
They haven't got them.
But that's just whiteness.
That's just whiteness.
Here's more whiteness.
Emphasis on scientific method.
Objective.
I'm sorry.
This is pitiful.
I mean, it's breaking my heart at some level, but it's also morbidly hilarious.
Objective, rational, linear thinking, you evil white people, rational thinking.
And by the way, that's only white males.
A joke.
Objective, rational, linear thinking.
Cause and effect relationships.
That's whiteness, believing that things have a cause and effect, quantitative emphasis, right?
Okay, so that's really bad, these rational, objective thinking.
You know, if somebody says, you know, you're not doing that right, you know, when you put the wheels on a bicycle, you want to put both wheels on one side.
You don't want to put one wheel above and another wheel.
This is why they keep attacking science and STEM.
They're saying STEM has to be gotten rid of because things don't work if you don't do them through rational linear thinking.
Listen, rational linear thinking is something that has been universal.
It simply has risen to great levels in European culture as the Christian culture, the culture of Christendom, led to science and into scientific reasoning.
It's a wonderful gift, this thing, science and technology, everything that this is being promoted on a computer that wouldn't exist without objective, rational, linear thinking.
So what they're saying to black people, they're saying, you can't participate in this.
This is white culture.
It's like telling a kid he shouldn't go to school because that's what white people did.
Really, again, they might just as well go into these societies and poison the water.
And again, I've said this a million times, but I got to repeat it.
These are our citizens.
These are our brothers and sister citizens.
I don't give a rats about the color of their skin.
And I know they tell you that's a racist thing to say, by the way.
That's a racist thing to say that you don't care about the color of their skin.
I don't care if it's a racist thing to say.
That's how racist I am.
I am so racist.
I do not care about the color of their skin.
I want them to go to school.
I want them to have intact families.
I want them to use and learn objective linear reasoning.
If that comes from Britain, if it comes from ancient Greece, I don't care.
It's good.
It is good.
That's the thing we're talking about.
It's not white and black.
It's good and bad, useful and not useful, holy and not holy.
Those are the things that really matter.
What else?
The Protestant work ethic.
You white people, you white people disgust me with your Protestant work ethic.
This is coming out of the Smithsonian Institute.
This is coming out of the Smithsonian.
The Protestant work ethic is whiteness.
Hard work is the key to success.
Work before play.
You disgust me, you white people.
If you didn't meet your goals, you didn't work hard enough.
No, no, no.
If you didn't meet your goals, it's the white man's fault.
That's what you do.
That's how you do it.
This is what they're selling people.
They're literally selling people and telling people that you should not feel this way.
If you're a white person, you can feel this way.
It's fine for you to feel this way.
But don't push it too far.
Don't push it too far.
Now, of course, anything, I suppose, including the work ethic, can be pushed too far.
But, but status, power and authority, wealth equals worth.
I don't know if that's white culture.
I'm not sure.
Your job is who you are.
They're just making that up.
Respect authority.
If it's really, I mean, this is the country that invented liberty.
This is the country that turned liberty into a real thing.
And they're saying that it respects authority.
Eh.
Religion, Christianity is the norm.
Well, Christianity is the norm.
That's just true.
But it's more than that.
Christianity is true.
This is the truth.
And you know how Christianity is true?
You know why we know it's true?
It's because when you don't do Christianity, you wind up doing the opposite.
You don't do Christianity, you wind up doing evil.
And that really is true.
Listen, you can be good by clinging to Christian ideas without believing in Christianity.
A lot of people do that.
Still, still, you know, if you really turn against Christian norms, you've turned against good.
What else?
Justice based on English common law when you could have Sharia.
Communication, the King's English rules.
This is another one that makes me nuts.
Teaching children that they don't have to learn the King's English so they can talk in black street lingo and that's going to elevate them.
And they see a couple of movie stars or a couple of athletes do that and they think, oh boy, I'm going to be like that.
That's not the way it works.
This is poison.
This is toxic.
And the question is, have enough white people been fed enough guilt that they buy into this destructive philosophy that they are going to stand by and watch their cities burn simply as a way of beating their chest.
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Monsieur Gorka is on his way.
The great Dr. Sebastian Gorka is a military and intelligence analyst.
He's host of America First on the Salem Radio Network.
Sometimes I actually go on that show because I just love talking to the guy and he'll never drop by.
He's a former assistant to President of Trump and now he's been tapped to be appointed to the National Security Education Board.
His latest book is The War for America's Soul.
Dr. Gorka, are you there?
I can, oh, I can actually see you.
How are you, buddy?
It's good to see you.
So I'm a Monsieur and you're the galactic grandmaster.
How does that work out?
Come on, Drew.
That's not exactly fair.
I have to hide in a bunker and you've got some beautiful attics and wood-lined attic.
What's going on here?
Listen, you just got you're back.
You've been appointed to the administration.
What I want to know is: do you have the nuclear code?
And just give me a couple of the numbers.
You don't have to give me all the numbers.
What is his new job?
The code is tagged.
K-A-Z.
Don't tell anybody, okay?
I'll never tell.
I'll never tell.
What is your new job?
What is this?
So, first things first, a lot of people, the liberals are melting down for all the right reasons, but some of the MAGA crowd are worried too.
I'm not going anywhere.
My daily show, America First, on the Salem Network, on YouTube, we're going to do that every day for three hours, relax.
Well, the president has done, I'm just so blown away.
This is who he is.
You know, he's such a thoughtful guy.
He's loyal to those who are loyal to him.
There's something called the National Security Education Board, which has six presidential appointees.
And he's named me as one of the two new appointees.
This is the entity that guarantees that the whole U.S. national security sector, whether it's the Pentagon, the intelligence community, whatever it is, they have the right relationships with private institutions, research institutes, think tanks, colleges, and that we get the right support from those private entities to understand our enemies and defeat them as needed.
And then also, we have certain fellowships where we place people in those institutions to learn the right languages, understand Chinese national security strategy, whatever it is.
So it's a very cool thing.
I spent more than a decade teaching the U.S. military in irregular warfare.
So it's nice to be back at a different level as a presidential appointee.
So thank you, Mr. Trump.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Well, congratulations.
That really is great.
I mean, it could have happened to a nicer guy, but the important thing is it didn't.
I don't do nice.
I do not do nice.
So, you know, you and I have talked about this over the years, about the fact that Trump came in with sort of this band of irregulars.
He came in with a band of guys who were really thinking outside the box and really saw an opportunity for this president to win when nobody else did.
A lot of those people are gone.
And I've wondered recently whether that between that and being locked down because of the Chinese flu, whether Trump has lost contact with that a little bit, that maybe he's suffering in the polls because he's gotten involved with too much Washington thinking.
Do you think there's any possibility that?
Let me map the way I see the last three and a half years as somebody who was an insider and then decided to support the Make America Great again agenda from the outside and now who's back in both camps now.
I called it a merry band of insurgents.
When we came in the building at senior level, there was a handful of people.
It was me, Steve Bannon, maybe about 20 guys and gals who knew why the president won and were loyal to the agenda, not the man, but to the agenda, because this is bigger than one man.
Then what happened?
We had no bench.
I wrote about this in The War for America's Soul.
We had no bench, Drew.
We were the outsiders.
We were truly insurgents.
And then we come in and the president has to fill 4,000 political appointments.
Well, what's going to happen?
The vacuum is going to be filled by the schlep of the Bush administration, the old Bushies, the rhinos, some of the neocons, they're going to polish off their CVs.
And a drug deal was done with Reines Priebus and the GOP.
And a lot of people who had nothing to do with MAGA, didn't understand Hillbilly Energy, didn't understand 2016, came into positions in the administration.
And that's why I left.
I was being boxed out.
I told the president I can serve you best on the outside.
And that's what I did.
Now, and Drew, here's the good news.
In the last seven weeks, things have really changed.
There's a new guy who's come back in, another guy who was boxed out by the bad guys like General Kelly called John McKentie.
He is head of presidential appointments.
He's one of the reasons I'm back working for the administration.
The good guys are back.
The MAGA OG team is coming back.
And we have 109 days to fix this because COVID is being exploited by the Democrats.
China is using the Wuhan flu as a weapon.
But the president, I saw the president.
I was in the Obal with him for half an hour yesterday.
He's not going anywhere.
And he's as fighting fit as he was four years ago.
Well, that's great to hear.
I'm really happy to hear that.
Does he know that there's trouble?
I always worry about presidents in their Oval Office being surrounded by smiley, you know, yellow smiley faces telling him everything's great.
But the polls really do look rough right now.
And I would like to know that he knows that.
Does he?
Well, look, he knows two things.
He knows that we have to bring our A game and that this is far tougher than 2016.
Because in 2016, Drew, you know, the left didn't take him seriously.
They thought he was a joke.
They thought he was a reality TV star, not a billionaire who'd never run for public office before and defeated 16 rhinos on the right in the debates.
Now they take him deadly seriously, deadly seriously.
They understand the threat he represents to their neo-Marxism.
Look at what Biden did yesterday.
He embraced AOC's Green New Deal.
Stalin couldn't get a plan on the paper like AOC's New Deal.
Beef is bad.
Gasoline engines are bad.
I mean, come on, this is insanity.
So the president knows.
And when it comes to polling, look, you can't take anything for granted.
I get it.
But two tweets that I've saved and I repost regularly are the New York Times two weeks before the election in 2016 saying Hillary has a 92% chance of winning and half po- Two weeks or 10 minutes.
Yeah.
No, Half Poe on the day of the election saying Hillary Clinton has a 93% chance of winning and Donald Trump has a 6.2, not 6.3, not 6.1, a 6.2% chance of winning.
Polling is like Victorian phrenology.
It is a dead science.
And the idea that the massive silent majority that propelled this non-politician to the White House in 2016 hasn't grown in the last three and a half years, you have to be smoking something.
And it's not tobacco if you believe that.
All right.
Well, what would you recommend?
You know, I read in the paper today.
I had Henry Olson on.
A lot of people got angry because Henry's very glum about this.
He's not an anti-Trumper, but he does believe the polls look very bad.
And he said somebody should be double-checking Trump's tweets.
And today, one of Trump's biggest supporters in Dallas said the same thing.
Somebody should just go over his tweets.
He said, mostly, I love the tweets, but now and again, he goes over the line.
What would you suggest?
If Trump said to you, what should I do to turn this around?
What would you tell them?
If anybody says they're a conservative and raises the issue of tweets with me, I rip them a new one.
Oh, seriously.
44 million people unemployed because of a Chinese virus that was seeded across the planet by the communist regime.
And you're talking to me about tweets?
Go to hell.
The reason he has 84 million followers on Twitter is a very good reason.
This isn't about tweets.
This is about you.
And I don't know who your guest was.
I don't know who these people are complaining.
You want to win the election?
Do something about it yourself.
I stood outside the local precinct in the local primary four weeks ago at the GOP tent to make sure people voted and our guy crushed it.
A one-legged Iraqi war veteran won the primary.
Go out there and volunteer.
Become part of the solution and don't whine like those snowflake little mama's boys about tweets.
Don't waste my time.
We have a republic to save.
Get busy.
Call out the bastard liars.
Call out the propagandists.
And I mean face-to-face, not just on Twitter.
They're taking down statues to Frederick Douglass.
And you're talking to me about tweets.
Get alive and get serious.
Sorry, Drew.
Now, don't beat around the bush, you know, Saba.
You know, you're just too, you're too shy and restrained.
You know, it's always a problem.
You know, I'm running out of time, but I want to ask you one quick thing because you're one of the first people, one of the first people to say, we got to be paying attention to China.
China, China, China, stop all this Russian nonsense, all this stuff.
Right at this minute, has there been any turn, do you think, within the establishment, within this vast deep state that Trump seems to be fighting all by himself?
Has there been any turn to say, hey, you know what?
They're right about this.
This China thing is a genuine threat.
Do you think that's changing at all?
Has Trump changed that culture?
You don't need to worry about the bureaucracy.
The new national security advisor, the new deputy national security advisor is a sinologist, former Marine, a Matt Pottinger.
He is on point.
He gets it.
We just convinced the British.
We, we convinced the British to expel Huawei from 5G.
That is a sucking chest wound to these communist bastards in Beijing.
The deep state has lost this fight.
Now we're seeing the private sector wake up.
We're seeing people like Google and Apple think twice.
That's the real victory.
It's not the deep state that matters on China.
It's Beijing Biden.
This is the man who got a $1.4 billion deal for his son Hunter when he was the vice president and he was the point person for China.
The threat to America isn't the deep state when it comes to China.
It's the Democrat Party and sleepy, creepy Beijing Zhou.
Sebastian Corco, you are always a breath of fresh air.
It's great to talk to you.
I hope you'll come to town soon enough and share a cigar.
It really is, Seb.
It's great to see you.
And congratulations again.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, truly.
Thank you, Drew.
All right, we're out of time, but we will, remember, have a show tomorrow.
I will be back with a special Friday show, making the Clavenless weekend, by my calculations, one day shorter, which gives you some smaller chance, maybe a third more of a chance to survive until Monday.
So we will be back again tomorrow.
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