Ep. 887 dissects Hillary Clinton’s drunken Biden endorsement as a feminist hypocrisy, exposing media amnesia on scandals like Brian Williams’ lies and Susan Rice’s Benghazi deception while contrasting Sweden’s COVID-19 strategy—low deaths, open society—with U.S. lockdowns fueled by doctored data (e.g., YouTube censoring doctors Erickson and Masihi). The episode pivots to faith vs. fear, dismissing doomsday predictions as counterproductive, then tackles purity culture’s unintended guilt and suicidal manipulation tactics, ending with Klavan’s conversion story: prayer overcame his atheism’s "scientism" barrier, proving belief follows action. [Automatically generated summary]
Hillary Clinton has endorsed Joe Biden for president, the woman who came this close to winning the presidency herself after a lifetime of sacrificing her principles, her reputation, her personal happiness, and indeed her immortal soul to win that high office,
and then fell just short so that she was plunged into a whirlpooling inner darkness of endless excuses and recriminations, disguising an all-consuming personal hell of self-blame while she tried to ignore the specter of a wasted and essentially empty life in which she traded away the things that really matter for a grasp at ephemeral power and always elusive fame.
I forgot where the sentence was going, but anyway, Hillary Clinton has endorsed Joe Biden for president.
In a statement broadcast live from the bottom of a bottle of Chardonnay, the former Secretary of State and Human Being said, quote, Joe Biden is a man who blows with the political winds and says anything he has to in order to get elected to the office he wants, all the while serially abusing women.
And it turns out that's just the sort of guy I go for.
Man, oh man, a lot of people say I'm the kind of smart woman who just makes stupid choices when it comes to men, and ain't that the truth?
I supported Bill all those years, trying to maintain a thin facade of dignity while that soulless opportunist humiliated me again and again with any pile of big hair, wearing a skirt and heels.
And now, what do you know?
Here I am again, throwing away even the last wispy vestiges of my self-respect to endorse almost exactly the same person, except stupid.
You'd think one of these days I'd learn it isn't worth it, but I'm just a girl who can't say no to a guy who doesn't need to hear yes.
Unquote.
When asked if descriptions of what Biden did to Tara Reid reminded her of what Bill Clinton did to Monica Lewinsky, Mrs. Clinton responded, quote, close, but no cigar.
Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Clavin, and this is the Andrew Clavin Show.
I feel hunky-dunky, life is tickety-boom.
Birds are winging, also singing hunky-dunky-dicky.
It's a wonderful day, hoorah, hooray!
It makes me want to sing!
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Oh, hooray, hoorah!
So, one of the weird effects of the 24-7 news cycle is that we seem to have lost our collective memory.
News comes so fast, big stories flash on the screen, our attention is gripped, and then the story vanishes entirely.
I wonder if I walked up to the ordinary person on the street today and asked him why President Trump was impeached, he would remember.
I wonder if I asked him if President Trump was impeached, he would remember.
It sort of makes sense that a constant barrage of information has a similar long-term effect to no information at all.
When the excitement is perpetual, it's not excitement anymore.
It's just another day.
When the news is 24-7, it's not news.
It's just noise.
A result of this is that America is a country without a wilderness.
That's kind of a funny statement when you remember that America was once a country defined by its wilderness.
But I'm not talking about a wilderness of territory.
I'm talking about a political wilderness, a spiritual place people have to go to when they've made a humiliating mistake and need to disappear for a while so the public can decide whether or not to forgive them.
Brian Williams, good example.
He was once the anchor of NBC Nightly News, one of the three biggest journalistic positions on television.
He was caught telling lies.
He said he was in a helicopter, forced down by an RPG over Iraq.
He had said he had witnessed a suicide during Hurricane Katrina.
He said he was in Berlin the night the wall came down.
All of these stories were proven to be false, which is really, in a journalist, an inexcusable moral lapse.
He was given a six-month suspension, then immediately reinstated at MSNBC, where he now has his own show.
That's not an exile into the wilderness.
That's a timeout in the sandbox.
And yet, there he is, a proved liar, bloviating nightly.
Does anybody remember?
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York backed Hillary Clinton's bid for the presidency, despite the fact that Hillary helped silence women abused by her husband, Bill.
She then became a big anti-sexual abuse crusader, helping to set the dogs on Brett Kavanaugh.
And now she's backing Joe Biden because she says Biden has vehemently denied Tara Reed's allegation, which isn't true.
Biden hasn't denied it because nobody has asked him about it.
Nobody.
His campaign has issued a denial.
But does anyone care that Kirsten Gillibrand is a total fraud?
Susan Rice, Obama's national security advisor, lied on every Sunday talk show about Benghazi.
Today she has an op-ed in the New York Times.
Feminists were hysterical about Brett Kavanaugh.
I'll show you some of this later.
And now they're silent about Joe Biden.
Our media has lied and lied about President Trump.
Russian collusion, Charlottesville support of Nazis, now this Clorox story, one lie or distortion after another, much of it distracting us from what now seems to have been deep corruption in the scandal-free Obama administration.
But Democrats keep buying their New York Times and believing every word they read.
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There's no payback.
There's no exposure.
There's no wilderness.
There's not even forgiveness because no one can remember what you should be blamed for.
People complain about cancel culture, and they should.
But what about a culture without any cancellations at all, without any repercussions at all?
I now believe cancel culture is actually a small part of a larger phenomenon, a society where the unconnected can be destroyed for the smallest mistake and the connected can't be destroyed for any reason at all.
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So an exchange between our president and a Yahoo News reporter.
All right.
Because I want to show this.
It's a long clip, but it's worth watching because it illustrates everything that's wrong with the way we're getting the news.
Mr. President, overall, South Korea has done five times more tests than the U.S. per capita.
Why is that?
I don't think that's true.
That is true.
And you said this morning that the White House said the U.S. passes South Korea virus testing.
Who are you with?
Yahoo News.
And it's not true per capita.
Do you want to respond to that?
If you have the numbers.
I'm sure I have the numbers.
So remember early on, we pushed tests to the outbreak areas, just like he described.
His primary outbreak was in Miami-Dade and Broward County and Palm Beach.
So they pushed tests into that region.
We did the same thing in the United States.
So if you look at every single state that had an outbreak, their testing is greater than anywhere in the world.
They're in the four per, you know, 42 per thousand range.
So to our Yahoo gentleman, I just want to make it clear that South Korea's testing was 11 per 100,000 and we're at 17 per 100,000.
Are you going to apologize, Yahoo?
That's why you Yahoo.
Nobody knows who that you are.
Go ahead.
Let's get to your numbers.
That's why nobody knows who you are, including me.
Go ahead.
Mr. President.
Just check it again.
You ought to get your facts right before you go.
We have had 14 times.
Your facts are wrong.
That was brutal.
But the guy apologizes in a tweet and he says, we have passed to South Korea the number of tests conducted per capita.
I misread the mobile version.
I apologize.
Sorry about that, Donald Trump.
Our infection rate is far higher, though, as I noted.
But that's nonsense because if you remove New York, we almost have no infection rate.
This is a country of 330 million people.
You can't compare this to South Korea.
There's a lot of ignorance about this virus.
Our scientists, God bless them, are learning at amazing new rates.
They're bringing in information at amazing rates, but there's ignorance on one side and there's just stupidity and enumeracy on the other.
And that is making for some very, very bad news, meaning bad news delivery.
All right, let me show you what I mean.
Well, you know, let me play you this one quick scene from Blade Runner.
This is CUP 19.
My friend Brett Smith found this.
It's a genius find, and it'll tell you why the press is doing what it's doing.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it?
That's what it is to be a slave.
That's what it is.
Living in fear is how you become a slave.
And that's the truth.
That is the truth.
I have been telling you the same thing over and over.
Yep, I believe in caution.
Yep, I believe we should save the clavin.
But, you know, that's obviously the entire country.
It's like I'm the still point around which the entire country spins.
So you don't want the country to spin out of control by losing me.
However, however, caution and fear are two different things.
Common sense and fear are two different things.
Screaming and yelling on the one hand about, oh, our liberties are being crushed, which I don't think is actually true.
On the one hand, it is wrong, but on the other hand, shelter in place forever, which is the thing that, like Eric Garcetti is saying, well, because we sheltered in place, we have no immunity, so we have to shelter in place to keep our immunity because we have no immunity.
I mean, that's like the Quaker Oatsbox.
It's like what's called an infinite regress, or what you would call a hall of mirrors, just reflecting back and back and back.
With that logic, you can never get out of anywhere.
So here's a story that just kind of proves the point.
And I want to say that I got this comparison from Oliver Darcy's column on CNN business.
The conclusions are my own, but the comparison I got from him, and I want to point that out.
Two doctors, Dan Erickson and Artin Masahi, put out a YouTube video saying they run, they're co-owners of an urgent care clinic in Bakersfield, California.
They say that their numbers show that this is basically like the flu, and so we are overreacting.
What is materializing in the state of California is 12% positives.
Well, we have 39.5 million people.
If we just take a basic calculation and extrapolate that out, that equates to about 4.7 million cases throughout the state of California, which means this thing is widespread.
That's the good news.
We've seen 1,227 deaths in the state of California with a possible incidence or prevalence of 4.7 million.
That means you have a 0.03 chance of dying from COVID-19 in the state of California.
0.03 chance of dying from COVID in the state of California.
Is that, does that necessitate sheltering in place?
Does that necessitate shutting down medical systems?
Does that necessitate people being out of work?
So, you know, this went viral, 2 million.
Now, YouTube has a policy of shutting down any information that they don't like, basically.
It is amazing.
Susan, what's her name?
Susan Shiki, I guess is pronounced.
She went on Brian Stelter show.
Now, Brian couldn't be there because he had to go home and climb into bed and start crying.
He had to take his teddy bear and his Disney Princess Nighty and curl up, but he interviewed her from afar, from his bed.
He was sobbing in between.
It's ugly stuff.
I won't play his part.
But she says, we're not letting on information that we feel is medically unsound.
And here's what she said.
We've surfed so many different areas to make sure that users are getting the right information.
We've actually seen a 75% increase in the news coming from authoritative sources since the beginning of 2020.
who have seen a lot of demand there.
What does that mean?
That means an increase in video views for those?
Yeah, and so we talk about that as raising authoritative information.
But then we also talk about removing information that is problematic.
Of course, anything that is medically unsubstantiated, so people saying like, take vitamin C, take turmeric, like those are all will cure you.
Those are the examples of things that would be a violation of our policy.
Anything that would go against World Health Organization recommendations would be a violation of our policy.
And so remove is another really important part of our policy.
So they're removing stuff that doesn't go with the who, who have been spreading disinformation since this began and working basically in hand in hand with China.
So, you know, it's a bad policy.
So they take down these two doctors.
These two doctors are saying there's no reason to shelter in place.
We're finding this is no worse than the flu.
So they take it down.
So the comparison that I saw on the CNN, this Oliver Darcy column was Tucker Carlson reacted to this.
Here is his reaction.
This cup three.
You may remember what they first told us back in February and March.
They said, we have to take radical steps in order to, quote, flatten the curve.
Well, six weeks later, we're happy to say that curve has been flattened, but it's likely not because of the lockdowns.
The virus just isn't nearly as deadly as we thought it was, all of us, including on this show.
Everybody thought it was, but it turned out not to be.
Hospitals never collapsed outside of a tiny number of places.
They never came close to collapsing, at least not from an influx of infected patients.
Instead, something remarkable happened, something amazing, really without parallel in American history.
The opposite happened.
Thanks to the lockdowns, hospitals have become to collapse.
Why?
From a lack of patients.
Politicians who couldn't pass ninth grade biology decided that practicing physicians should not be allowed to calculate the risk of transmitting the virus.
They're just not qualified, unlike us.
See, now, the one thing I have to point out, I like Tucker.
He's a good guy, and he says original things.
I disagree with him a percentage of the time.
But we have to remember that he was the first guy to say this thing is coming.
We should panic.
It's a bad thing.
He's, you know, I think the administration was affected by some of the stuff that Tucker was saying.
So now, I mean, all I would say about that is that maybe a tone of a little bit more humility would be a good thing because I've been preaching to you from the beginning.
We have to know what we don't know.
And we don't know a lot now, too.
So here's Chris Hayes reacting to Tucker Carlson.
Good evening from New York.
I'm Chris Hayes.
There's a concerted effort on the part of influential people at the cable network that we at all in call Trump TV right now to peddle dangerous misinformation about the coronavirus.
Call it coronavirus trutherism.
And the question at issue is one whose answer should be obvious to everyone.
Is this disease really as deadly as the vast majority of experts tell us it is, as we've all seen with our own eyes?
Last night, one Trump TV host told his viewers that all those experts were wrong.
We should lift the lockdowns because it is just not as deadly as we thought.
See, now, first of all, the two sides, I think, are just wrong in this.
And Chris Hayes on MSNBC is wrong.
He quotes a doctor saying the first doctors were using methods that are ludicrous to get results that are completely implausible.
The thing about this is, and some of this I'm getting from Holman Jenkins Jr. because he is the one and only columnist who's not enumerate.
He actually knows how to use numbers.
The thing is, when you say that this is only like the flu, the flu only kills 35,000 Americans on average a year because we have vaccines and because we have acquired immunity.
In the old days, these same flus used to kill 200,000, what would be the equal, the equivalent of 200,000 deaths in today's population.
So the flu, saying it's just the flu, it's just, it's a new flu.
So we're not prepared for it.
We don't have the immunity for it.
We don't have the vaccines that we have for the flu.
So it's killing a lot of people and eventually we'll get the immunity and we'll get vaccines that will hopefully will phase it off.
And the vaccines seem to be coming a lot faster.
So the thing is that whatever you do, it's a trade-off.
What Sweden did is a trade-off.
What Sweden did was they said, we're going to take the disease now.
We're going to protect our old people.
We're going to save whatever is claven in Swedish.
Clavon, I think, is in Swedish.
They're going to save the Clavon over there.
But everybody else is going to just be careful.
You're Swedes, so you're responsible people who care about one another as opposed to Americans.
And you just be careful and do what you have to do to keep this low.
So in other words, they're trading off.
They're trading off diseases now for diseases later.
And they are betting that that's going to come out to the same thing without hurting their economy as much as our economy has been hurt.
It's all a trade-off.
It is all a trade-off.
It's a complicated trade-off.
And one of the reasons I am so trusting of Donald Trump, as I keep saying, is because his interests are not just aligned with mine.
His interests are aligned with common sense.
He doesn't want people to die because that is bad form.
He doesn't want business to shut down forever because that's bad form.
He is the only person, really, I mean, who seems to have found the middle way.
And maybe he made a mistake in shutting down.
We can debate that forever.
But he decided that he was going to take this path.
The difference, what I'm trying to say is that the difference is not between good and bad information.
This guy's an idiot.
This is an outrage.
This is absurd.
The difference is we need all the information so we can decide.
YouTube has no business censoring anybody.
This distrust of the people, this idea that these experts know what they're doing and the people are fools, it's just wrong.
It's just wrong.
I mean, we need all the information and we need to hear debate.
The problem, again, is that we don't have a mediator, a media that we can turn to, except maybe the Wall Street Journal and maybe Brett Baer show on Fox.
Those are the two places where you can go and hear the conversation and hear sensible people saying things on both sides and try and make up your mind about what you want to do.
Ultimately, the decision about opening the country not only should belong to the people, but it's going to belong to the people.
And that means that the press should get us all the information and not be afraid and not stop pushing fear to make us slaves and stop pushing, you know, kind of Bolshevik return to work to make sure that we're all Thomas Payne.
You know, we don't need either of that.
We just need all the information told honestly.
All right.
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All right.
I want to go back in time a little bit and talk about our old friend, Joe Biden.
Yesterday, Hillary Clinton endorsed Joe, which really is funny given her taste in men.
And Joe says he's going to keep calling Hillary for advice.
Here is Joe flattering Hillary.
Cut 12.
I want to thank Hillary for joining us in this conversation today.
And Hillary, I'm going to keep calling, asking for your advice.
The coronavirus is shining a bright light on the equities in our country, and there's so much work to do.
But I have no doubt we can meet these challenges brought on by this virus if we work together.
So here's the advice when he calls Hillary, which he'll never do, but here's the advice she's going to give him.
This is Cut 13.
This would be a terrible crisis to waste, as the old saying goes.
We've learned a lot about what our absolute frailties are in our country when it comes to health justice and economic justice.
So, you know, let's be resolved that we're going to solve those once you're elected president.
Everything is pushing him to the left.
And of course, since he's just a plant, he's just a house plant at this point.
He's not actually a sentient creature.
Is it me?
Every time I hear that voice now, when I hear Obama and when I hear Hillary, I just, I like, ah, I'm so happy those voices are not that.
Can you imagine what it would be like to turn?
I mean, I mean, Trump can be abrasive.
He can be abrasive, but it's not like that to hear that.
Come on, man.
So I have been talking about these accusations about Joe Biden, Tara Reed's accusation that in 1993, he pushed her up against the wall and digitally raped her.
That's an accusation.
There's corroborating evidence, people who say she told them about it at the time, people who come out and none of the people are anonymous.
They're actually coming out and giving their names.
So that has some weight.
But again, we don't know.
And it's not, again, the story up till now is not about the charges.
It's not about Biden.
It's about the press.
It is about what we are learning about the press and what's being proved about the press.
But it's also true about feminists, about activists, about female, you know, activists for female liberty.
I want to take you back in time to the Kavanaugh thing.
Now, remember, the Kavanaugh accusations were completely uncorroborated.
There's no proof that Christine Blazingford ever met Brett Kavanaugh.
The people she said would back her up didn't back her up.
Here is what happened to women when, here's what women did during the Kavanaugh hearings.
We'll go first to that CNN clip.
These are live images, folks, at the doors of the Supreme Court, where you can see protesters have gathered.
They are demanding that their voices be heard.
This thing about voices being heard is a phrase that should be banned from the English language.
What does it even mean?
You know, it doesn't mean, I mean, anybody's voice can be heard.
You speak up, your voice will be heard.
But these women hysterically banging on the Supreme Court doors, banging on the Supreme Court doors because a woman made an unsubstantiated charge that was uncorroborated, okay?
So a woman made a charge and now they're banging on the Supreme Court doors.
And let's not forget Jeff Flake.
Remember Jeff Flake, who was going to speak truth to power and then vanished without a trace because he was constantly attacking Trump.
He got on the elevator and these activists crowded on the elevator with him.
And this is the confrontation.
I was in Billy Saunders.
Nobody believed me.
I didn't tell anyone.
And you're telling all women that they don't matter, that they should just stay quiet because if they tell you what happened to them, you're going to ignore them.
That's what happened to me.
And that's what you're telling all women in America.
That they don't matter.
They should just keep it to themselves because if they have told the truth, you're just going to help that man to power anyway.
The tear-filled voice, I was assaulted and nobody believes me.
And now you're doing the same thing to Christine Blasey Ford, that logic, that amazing feminist logic, that it happened to me, therefore everybody who is charged is guilty.
I mean, we saw this in the press and not just, but we're seeing it here from feminists.
You know, a long time ago, I was on Gretchen Carlson's show on Fox on a little panel, maybe three people.
And I said out loud, you know, why is the National Organization of Women a leftist organization?
And they all jumped on me, including Gretchen.
They all were like, what are you talking about?
Well, that's all leftist.
And I said, but why should an organization for women be leftists?
Why should the assumption be that leftism and feminism are good for women?
Why shouldn't you have an organization about women that explores what paths are best for most women?
But now is a leftist organization.
Feminism is a leftist cause, which presumes, it assumes that leftism and feminism are good for women.
I question that.
I question whether leftism and feminism are good for women at all.
Obviously, women's rights, absolutely good for women.
Good for America, good for everybody.
But feminism, feminism itself.
And now we see that that performance, and that was an activist, she wasn't just a random woman, that performance, which caused Jeff Flake to cave in and delay Kavanaugh's confirmation, it caused Jeff Flake to cave in because he was confronted like that by a screaming, crying woman with those tears in her voice and all that emotionalism, that caused him to cave in.
Now we see that, where is it now?
Where is that woman now?
Why isn't she crowding into elevators?
Why isn't she over at the New York Times confronting Dean Bequet, saying, what do you mean you're not covering it because you're not covering it?
What does that mean?
Why is she saying now, you know, I was sexually assaulted and no one believed me.
And now this woman is saying she was sexually assaulted and no one will even listen to her.
No one will question.
No one has asked Joe Biden the question.
He gave, I think it was yesterday, he gave a woman's town hall.
No one asked him the question.
So all of this activism is just leftism.
It's all just leftism.
I've been saying this for a long time.
If it's about, it's not about race.
It's about leftism.
If the words come out of their mouth, oh, this is racism, this race of black people, black people, oh, the black people.
It's leftism.
It's not about black people because the question is an open question whether or not leftism is good for black people, whether or not feminism is good for actual women.
Whenever I hear a woman say something and some feminist says, well, that sets feminism back 20 years, I think who cares?
Who cares whether it sets feminism back 20 years?
What's it do for women?
Okay.
You know, Breitbart, the Breitbart site, a guy named Ezra Dulles there, came up with this 2008 article from a very far-left magazine by Alexander Coburn, a very famous leftist writer.
He was half-brother to my friend Sarah Codwell, the mystery writer, but he's the uncle of Olivia Wilde.
The Coburn family is a very left-wing, famous left-wing family.
So this is what he wrote.
He said, Biden is a note, this is 2008.
Biden is a notorious flapjaw.
His vanity deludes him into believing that every word that drops from his mouth is minted in the golden currency of Pericles.
Vanity is the most conspicuous characteristic of U.S. senators on block, nourished by deferential acolytes and often expressed in loudish sexual advances to staffers, interns, and the like.
On more than one occasion, Counterpunch's editors have listened to vivid accounts by the recipient of just such advances.
This staffer of another senator being accosted by Biden in the well of the Senate in the weeks immediately following his first wife's fatal car accident.
A staffer being accosted by Biden in the weeks following his first wife's fatal car accident.
You know, feminists, to me, like are like a stereotype of women by men who don't like women.
You know, I mean, men who don't like women become macho idiots.
Men who don't like women ultimately only rely on masculine logic and they become macho idiots.
Women who don't like men become hysterical, irrational female stereotypes.
Feminists, I mean, I've never seen anything like it.
It's so reliable that feminists are the first people to become irrational stereotypes of women.
Women are not like that.
Women, in general, I mean, again, I've always said that the way women react to the world is so different from the way that I react to the world that I've had to pause and say, well, wait a minute, where is the wisdom in this?
And then you find, oh, yeah, there is.
There is wisdom in the womanly way of looking at the world.
It is not my wisdom.
We have to put those two kinds of viewpoints together to get a three-dimensional view of the world.
Feminism has cut that view off by making men the enemy, and they have become stereotypes of themselves.
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Oh my God.
From Casey, dear Paul Sear of all things, of all the commentators, you and Ben have seemed to be the most level-headed and multifaceted when covering the China virus.
I have found that you seem to have this sense of calm during this whole crisis.
Trying to glean information during this crisis, it can be hard to not become anxious, not be filled with despair about the future, which with phrases like national suicide or greatest mistake in the history of the nation, almost verbatim from Matt Walsh, to describe the responses to the kung flu.
It seems like me, to me, my future will entail mass unemployment, hyperinflation, poverty, hunger, destruction of supply lines and the economy and societal breakdown, all of which was inflicted carelessly by our officials, while the damage is already done and cannot be reversed.
I know that no one knows what our futures hold, and I am aware that the Wu flu is dangerous and is something to take seriously with precautions.
How have you been able to be immersed in this world and still find some hope and optimism?
One thing I want to point out is to point out that Ben and I have remained the most balanced.
The one thing I've just always noticed, I've said this before, is that Ben and I almost always agree on the facts.
He and I have some different values.
We see things differently.
I have a much more internal sense of the way people are living.
Maybe I've also lived longer and that has a way of changing the way you see things.
But we almost always describe the world very, very similarly.
I mean, almost all the time.
And I think the thing is, look, I've seen a lot of stuff.
I've seen a lot of predictions of catastrophe.
I've seen some catastrophes.
And the one thing I know is that the way predictions work is that if you come on, if I came on here every day and predicted, oh, tomorrow, this is going to be World War III.
Tomorrow, this is going to be, we're going to have famines.
Tomorrow, there's going to be an absolute flu will be destroyed.
All our internet connectivity is going to be destroyed.
Eventually, something bad would happen.
And I would say, see, I'm going to replay the tape where I predicted this, okay?
And that's all you'd remember.
You wouldn't remember all the times I predicted catastrophe where it didn't happen.
And not only that, you would tune in because you get addicted to the fear.
You get addicted to the excitement.
It sort of plays into those fears you have.
We all have fears.
We're evolutionarily, we're evolved to have fears because the fearful guys are the guys who saw that the big tiger was coming and they're the ones who hit out before anybody else.
So we have a lot of fear inside us.
But the thing about it is, most days, these catastrophes don't happen and nobody notices that.
And nobody notices also that because your life is finite, if you waste all those days waiting for catastrophe to happen and waiting in fear, and then you die at 99 in bed with a couple of women, you know, you will have wasted all that time living in fear.
You know, you'll have wasted your life living in fear.
Disasters happen.
There are whirlpools of evil.
The Holocaust is a whirlpool of evil.
The flu after World War I, World War I itself, a whirlpool of destruction and evil.
Those things happen.
But they may not happen today.
And if you waste today, it's never coming back.
And your life is a series of today's.
And if you waste enough of them, you will have wasted your entire life.
We are always, look, you can always die.
And death is permanent.
You know, there's another life after this, I truly believe, but this life is gone.
And once it's gone, it's gone.
So you're always walking on water.
And what do we know about, you know, because anytime you could be hit, you know, I'm in California.
There could be an earthquake.
The beans could fall on my head.
I could be gone like that.
Okay.
That's what we're always living with.
And simply we push it out of our minds so that we can go forward.
And you have to do a lot of that.
So what do we know about walking on water?
We know when Peter said to Jesus, you know, I want to walk on water too, as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus and wasn't afraid, he could walk on the water.
But when he stopped looking at Jesus and he looked down, he started to sink.
And Jesus said, oh, ye of little faith.
So you have to have some faith in God.
And faith in God doesn't mean good things are going to happen.
Faith in God just means that God has got this and he's got you in this life and beyond.
He's got you over the whole period of eternity and you've got to have some trust in that.
That most of the time, most days are not a disaster.
And the question of being, you know, again, you know, common sense precautions.
You know, I don't drive at 150 miles an hour.
You know, I drive somewhere around the speed limit.
I don't, you know, when I take a risk, I know that I'm taking a risk and I'm doing it to get a reward.
Okay.
So I have jumped off cliffs wearing like a little parachute because I knew I was going to get a thrill.
It was worth it to me.
If I had fallen and died, I would have made the wrong calculation.
You have to live.
We have to live.
We have to get back to work.
We have to do the things we do.
We have to understand that there are new risks and we have to take care, you know, to try and limit our exposure to them.
But no, will the economy come back?
I'm pretty confident it will.
I could be wrong.
There could be a massive crash, a massive depression.
There could be, but there was nothing wrong with this economy to begin with.
And there's no reason it can't be rebuilt.
And there's no reason we shouldn't be optimistic.
I mean, the most likely thing, the most likely thing is that slowly but surely we rebuild the economy and people come back, especially if Trump stays in office and we don't have that piece of potato elected.
But yeah, you know, just listening to every catastrophic prediction is going to make you crazy.
There's no reason to think that they, as you say, we don't know the future.
We have to live in faith.
We have to live in the faith that God has got us and God has got history and go through.
And when the bad things happen, courage, fortitude.
If you know you're going to have courage, if you know you're going to have fortitude, if you know you're going to find a way through, why panic now?
All right.
From a grandmother in Wyoming, I have heard you state that God's word, the Bible, is inerrant and in essence breathed into its writers from God.
You've also stated that you think these writers can made mistakes but can make mistakes was what I said.
I'm not sure how these two statements can both be true.
I would love to hear your thoughts on that.
Also, if mistakes were made, then doesn't that start a downward slide and open the whole of the text to validity questions?
Well, all right.
First of all, on the last point, just because a truth presents you with a situation you'd rather not be presented with doesn't make it any less the truth, right?
The text is always open to validity questions.
It's open to validity questions whether you admit that it could be mistaken in places or not.
So the fact that it's open to validity questions is not a problem.
I mean, you have to have faith.
You have to have faith that you are hearing from God and that this is the book that God wants you to have about himself, which I truly do have faith about.
If you're a grandmother in Wyoming, then you have lived long enough to know, and this is just the plain spoken truth, an angel of the Lord with big feathery wings could descend beside a human being and whisper in his ears and dictate and tell him to take notes, and that human being could still make a mistake in translation.
He could still let his own passions get in the way.
He could still let his own forgetfulness get in the way.
He could still let his own sin get in the way and make errors.
When I read the Bible, I don't find like one error after another, but I do find different ways of speaking.
I do find different genres.
And I do find a couple of things where I think, you know, that's not, I don't quite think that that's what was said there.
One or two things.
Like just to give you an example, when Jesus says, he who is not with me is against me.
And then in another gospel, he says, he who is not against me is with me.
I think one of those guys probably didn't get that right.
It's a complicated world.
It's a complicated world.
God, you know, the Muslims believe that their book is the actual word of God.
Every word is God's word.
I don't believe that.
I believe the book is breathed by God into human beings, and human beings are human beings.
And that just leaves me free to find my way in faith.
It doesn't mean I can just say, oh, it's there in the Bible, but I don't believe it.
I don't believe that.
I believe it's the inerrant word of God, you know, but it is, he, I believe God wants us to have it in this particular way, and that's the way we have to live with it.
It's complicated.
It's much more complicated than just saying the Bible said it, I believe it, and that's all there is to it.
Because 99% of the time people are saying that, they actually aren't quoting the Bible.
They're quoting their interpretation of the Bible.
And it's just the same thing.
It's just as unreliable and open to validity questions as if they took my tack and said, let us read this as a text and see what it means.
From Shelly, I would like to get your thoughts about the purity culture of the 90s.
I raised my three teens in that time, and now the two girls are coming back at me saying the church burdened them with guilt about sexual activity.
In fact, they have rebelled at many of the church teaching.
My kids didn't date much in high school because they were good girls.
Now they think too much was expected.
Thank you for taking our questions.
God bless you.
First of all, let me tell you, Shelly, that when my kids do this, seriously, as this drives them absolutely insane, I tell them there's a hierarchy.
There's God, and then there's me, and then there's you.
And God doesn't care when I criticize him, and I don't care when you criticize me.
You did the best you could under the circumstances.
And because they lived in purity culture, they may have felt guilt, but they didn't get diseases.
They didn't get pregnant.
They didn't have to wonder if they should have an abortion or, God forbid, have an abortion and live with that for the rest of their lives.
You gave them some good stuff.
If they have some guilt, let them go to a therapist and get over it.
There is, sex is not a system that's made to work.
Sexuality is not a system that's made to work.
There is no system that works.
And you can say, well, the best thing is if we all just get married and only have sex in marriage.
Yeah, that's the safest thing, but it's not the thing that people do.
It is not the thing that people do.
And it doesn't deal with men's incredible, passionate desire to have lots of different women.
It doesn't deal with women's desire to have men that they maybe shouldn't have sometimes.
You know, we have all these passions.
Sex is a very wild, Dionysian passion.
And there is no system that works, okay?
But telling your kids to stay virgin until they get married is at least telling them the safest possible thing.
And if that purity culture, which I didn't grow up in and I didn't live by, but if it causes guilt, if you had taught them something else, it might have caused them to get viruses that now would give them cancer.
So like tell them that there's God, there's their father, there's you, and there's them.
And you don't criticize the people above, and they don't have to criticize you because you did the best you could.
And listen, you gave them a lot of good stuff.
From Joe, this is a tremendously long letter, and I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's just too long.
But to give you the details, he says, my girlfriend attends a predominantly female trade school.
A sort of offbeat girl came into this trade school and was bullied when his girlfriend contacted her.
The girl said she was suicidal.
And the girlfriend then became sort of the go-to person for this suicidal girl and is now, and then she was going to, the girlfriend was going to report this to the heads of the school, but then the lockdown came and so she can't report it.
And so now she's in this online conversation, suicidal girl, girlfriend.
And the suicidal girl says she wants to meet, she wants to be on FaceTime, and the girlfriend doesn't know what to do.
So here's what I want to tell you.
You are not responsible for this girl.
This is above your pay grade.
You were very nice.
First of all, I really appreciate how nice you've been, how concerned you've been, that you're a human being, that you stood up to the bullies, that you didn't do what the bullies did.
You didn't join with the mean girls.
That's all very beautiful.
This is above your pay grade.
There's nothing you can do.
There's nothing you can do to help this person.
What you have to do is if you can call the heads of the school and report her behavior, you should.
If you can contact them now, even in lockdown, you should.
You should tell this girl you can't help her.
And you don't have to cut her off, but just send very short responses saying, I can't help you.
I wish I could.
You need to get help.
You need to get help.
You need to get professional help.
If she answers that by escalating and saying, I'm going to commit suicide, call the police.
That's what they're there for.
You can't do anything about this.
You have no power here.
And so you have to acknowledge you have no power and protect yourself.
You can be kind.
You can keep saying, love you.
You know, I'm sorry you feel bad.
You know, get some help.
But you can't let her escalate and become dependent on you and manipulate of you with threats of suicide.
You just have to know what you don't know and know what you can't do.
I'm going to read one more of these.
It's getting late, but still from Mac.
I decided to pose my question to you instead of the other podcast host because I know you were an atheist for a while.
I struggled to become comfortable with faith.
I have a vested interest in the purpose of existence and I want badly to believe in God.
I can't seem to transmute an argument into an actual belief system.
I consistently read authors such as C.S. Lewis and Dostoevsky and I find their Christian arguments to be incredibly convincing, but I can't seem to overcome my doubt and make the leap of faith.
My question is, did you feel this type of volatility when you made your leap of faith?
And if so, do you have any advice on how to overcome it?
It's almost an exact description of what I went through.
I mean, you go on saying there are many friends who are perfectly happy without God in their lives, and they have Christian morals, but they don't seem to think faith is necessary.
So why do I need faith?
But I feel I do.
Exact description of what happened to me, an exact description.
At some point, I understood that my arguments for the existence of God were sound, but I still couldn't believe.
Why?
Because I was in the narrative, the surrounding narrative, which is like an atmosphere.
You don't even know you're breathing it in, an atmosphere of doubt, an atmosphere of scientism, not science, but scientism, the idea that science has somehow solved everything.
And now we know it's a clockwork universe with no spirit in it.
All nonsense.
It's just an atmosphere of narrative that you're breathing in, and it makes it impossible to believe.
I defeated this.
I got past this of knowing that it was true that there was God, but being unable to believe by praying.
One day on just a flyer, because I read about it in a book, I said a three-word prayer, which was thank you, God.
And it so transformed my life, that three-word prayer.
God was waiting for me to reach out.
God's incredibly gracious, incredibly graceful.
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And when you give him anything to work with, he will work with it.
Okay.
So when I started to pray, I thought, wow, everything looks different now.
I'm going to keep doing this because I'm not an idiot.
Okay.
So I prayed.
Sometimes I didn't believe.
Sometimes I had doubts, but I just kept praying every day.
I just pray a little bit, maybe 10 minutes, maybe 15 minutes because my prayers got longer and longer and longer as I went along when I started to see, oh, I'm getting tremendous benefit from this.
And still, even when I got benefit from it, I would say to myself, well, maybe this is just kind of self-psychiatry.
Maybe I'm just healing myself.
But over time, I thought, no, I'm getting insights that I would not have had if they were not given to me by God.
I'm having things happen to me in my life.
I'm seeing life in a different way.
I'm seeing coincidence and incidents in different ways than I saw them before.
And all of that is more realistic.
It's helping me to predict what's going to happen.
It's helping me to know my fellow man in a more honest and loving way.
It is transforming my life.
And so what I did was I took the leap of action, not the leap of faith.
I decided I've proved my point.
My heart isn't there, but I'm going to act as if the proof of my point is a good proof because I know it is.
And once I started to act on that and actually talk to God, God responded.
And I think that that's the only way I know how to get around the problem because it is a real problem because this narrative thing is so, so powerful.
This is why I rant about the narrative all the time.
This is why I shake my fist at the press all the time because I know they're creating a narrative of falsehood.
And I know even though we think we're rising above it, it's affecting us.
And that's what you have to do.
You have to act.
You know, there's a line from David Mammet in the verdict, act as if you have faith and faith shall be given to you.
I think there's a lot of wisdom in that.
I don't think it's right to say I act as if there's a God forever.
I think eventually you have to say, no, I'm right.
But I think you can come to that place through prayer and by acting as if the logic that you followed is the true logic.
I got to stop there, but I will be back again tomorrow.
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