Ben Shapiro’s Ep. 885 exposes how media weaponized Kim Jong-un’s Clorox rumors to smear Trump while ignoring Biden’s 1993 assault claims, revealing a double standard where Kavanaugh’s unproven accusations were treated as gospel. The episode contrasts CNN’s praise for Kim Yo-jong with feminist outrage over her power, mocks elites like Ellen DeGeneres thriving during lockdowns, and praises Oklahoma’s cautious COVID reopening under Stitt while dismissing Ayana Presley’s debt-forgiveness demands as authoritarian. Comparing The Apartment’s delusional love to liberal media’s blind trust in narratives, Shapiro argues mainstream outlets prioritize control over truth—from Me Too to Georgia’s 2018 election—before teasing a dark Hare Krishna scandal tied to a van encounter in West LA. [Automatically generated summary]
Feminists are absolutely fuming that North Korea could have a female dictator presiding over a regime of murder, torture, starvation, and rape before America does.
There are reports that North Korea's dear leader, Kim Jong-un, may be dead after he injected himself with Clorox on the advice of his good friend Donald Trump.
Trump issued a statement about the report saying, quote, ha ha ha, I knew the little psychopath would fall for that one.
He's even dumber than Dean Bucket, unquote.
In the aftermath, all eyes have turned to Kim's sister Kim Yeo-jong, the hot little number who charmed and delighted American news media outlets during the 2018 Olympics.
CNN said she was, quote, and this is a real quote, stealing the show.
The New York Times, a former newspaper, said she, quote, outflanked Vice President Mike Pence in diplomatic image making.
And Mike Pence said she was, quote, a central pillar of an evil family clique that brutalizes, subjugates, starves, and imprisons its 25 million people.
Pence may have just been jealous of her show-stealing charm, or he may just have been telling the truth.
Now that the little cutie may rise to ultimate power, feminists are upset that she could break the glass ceiling of psychopathology before an American woman if you don't count Jennifer Rubin.
Feminist lunatic, a New York Times op-ed columnist Shrilly Wing said, quote, it is shameful that North Korea may give a woman the right to slaughter anyone she wants when here in America, we threaten to take away even her right to slaughter her own baby, unquote.
Feminist academic Shrilly Wing, no relation, said, quote, it's a disgrace.
North Korea is a nation where a woman can have a man executed for not agreeing with her, whereas I can only destroy his career and have him assaulted by irrational mobs of slavish college students, unquote.
Though Kim's death has not yet been confirmed, the North Korean military is apparently making plans for a stirring nationwide ceremony in which they'll elevate Kim Yo-jung to power and then assassinate her.
Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Clavin, and this is the Andrew Clavin Show.
Anybody Who Comes Forward00:14:59
I'm the hunky-dunky, life is ticky-boom.
Birds are winging, also singing, hunky-dunky-duty.
Ship-shaped seat-topsy, the world is a bitty zing.
It's a wonderful day.
Hoorah, hooray!
It makes me want to sing.
Oh, hurrah, hooray.
Oh, hooray, hurrah.
So here's some important breaking news that didn't happen over the weekend.
Trump did not tell anyone to drink Clorox or inject himself with anything.
He did ask a doctor about whether tests showing that light and disinfectant killed the Chinese virus on contact could be put to use in some science fiction-y medical way.
Here's the clip of him speculating.
This clip seven.
I have Joe a question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting.
So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light.
And I think you said that has him in check, but you're going to test it.
And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.
And I think you said you're going to test that too.
Sounds interesting.
Right.
And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute.
And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
Because you see, it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number in the lungs.
So it'd be interesting to check that.
All right.
So you can hear him speculating about this.
And he was obviously reading an article or something about this new thing where they can inject ultraviolet rays into the body.
After he said this, left-wing activist Chris Jackson tweeted that Trump, quote, urged Americans to inject themselves with disinfectant, unquote.
You just heard the quote.
He didn't say it.
And Jake McAbee, who worked for the Obama administration, then tweeted that Trump, quote, told people to drink bleach.
And that became the news.
Our own Daily Wire writer Ryan Savedra wrote an article about this titled Fact Check.
No, Trump did not tell people to inject themselves with disinfectant or drink bleach.
I wanted to find that article, so I googled fact check.
No, Trump did not tell people to inject themselves.
And the first result was from CNN.
Fact check.
Trump dangerously suggests sunlight and ingesting disinfectants could help cure coronavirus, which is a twisted, biased, dishonest version of something that almost is sort of kind of true, but not.
Meanwhile, further evidence that presidential candidate Joe Biden digitally raped a woman in 1993 came to light, and we'll talk about that.
It was in CNN's archive, only CNN didn't find it.
It was found by our friends at the news website Newsbusters and then was ignored by the network Sunday shows.
And there are new revelations that Congressman Adam Schiff and former CIA director John Brennan and OPPO research guy Christopher Steele may be covering up information about how the Russia collusion hoax got started, that Russia collusion hoax that was a fake headline for three years with fake sources feeding fake information to fake reporters like Maggie Haberman.
That information is also going underreported by mainstream outlets.
Under fire for the disinfectant remarks, Trump foolishly, in my opinion, said he was being sarcastic when he said that, but that's not what it sounded like to me.
It sounded to me more like harmless Trumpian rambling about possible developments.
But it's hard to blame a man for making a tactical error when he's battling a manufactured universe of disinformation.
Think about this.
Sex assault accusations against a presidential candidate and that candidate's obvious mental deterioration don't exist.
They aren't news, not happening.
But things Trump didn't say that can be misconstrued are news.
That's not just lying.
That's actual disinformation.
It's essentially the matrix, a false universe of non-news that is news and real news that is no news at all.
If that is not a central problem and possibly the central problem with our politics, the central problem that has to be solved, I don't know what it is.
I will say this until I fall over sideways.
The news media needs to be reformed in some way that does not violate the First Amendment.
I'm going to show you stuff they're saying that will curl your hair if you've got it.
They are the enemies of our republic, and what they're doing is bad for America.
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So Trump says he's going to cancel or at least limit his daily coronavirus briefings.
He was obviously really annoyed by this and a couple other clashes with the press.
And he tweeted, what is the purpose of having White House news conferences when the lamestream media asks nothing but hostile questions and then refuses to report the truth or facts accurately.
So he says they get record ratings and the American people get nothing but fake news.
It is not worth the time and effort.
Well, you know, the guy has been working around the clock.
They say he's not even having lunch.
And obviously this is taking a toll.
I thought he was wrong to come out and say, oh, this was, I was being sarcastic.
It didn't sound like he was being sarcastic.
I thought he was asking a perfectly reasonable question.
He obviously wasn't asking whether you can inject Clorox.
He was asking, was there some kind of way you could clean out the human system with light and with some kinds of disinfectants or, you know, what we would call antibiotics.
Unbelievable.
It is unbelievable.
It is just like the thing about there being good people on both sides, meaning the Nazis instead of meaning the people who are arguing about the statue.
It is fake news.
And the reason I keep harping on this Joe Biden story, the reason I keep harping on it is because it is proof positive that we live in a dishonest media universe.
You know, it's all that stuff, the believe women, believe all women, the lies, the Me Too movement, everything is different now, all the hysteria, a lie.
It was all a lie.
It was just a hit on Kavanaugh.
That's all it was.
And we know that now.
It is proof positive in front of us that when the Democrats do the same thing, when the same thing happens to the Democrats, I should say they're not going to cover it.
All a lie.
It's a fake world.
It's the matrix.
All right.
I want to just start by playing, as I take a look at this Biden clip, I want to start by playing this thing that Chuck Todd did on his Sunday show.
Just a very brief clip of him fading out, cutting away.
Have we got this?
And if we go to break, if there's a good thing about this economic crisis, it's been the clean air and views we haven't seen for a long time.
Take a look.
I love the music.
It's like he's sitting in this pre-French Revolution room at the Versailles Palace, you know.
You know, the good thing about this crisis, you know, you may be out of work, but I'm doing quite well, thank you.
And my views are absolutely fantastic.
You know, it's like, are you starving?
I'm sorry.
But my views and the air is clean.
It's really, it's delightful.
This is the thing.
I don't know.
I do not know because I watch these reporters.
I do not know whether they are simply out of touch, so out of touch that they literally don't know that they're lying or if they're just lying.
I mean, when you see Dean BK come on and say, well, we're not covering the Biden story like we covered the Kavanaugh story because it's not in the news.
A guy runs the New York Times.
He's essentially saying, we're not covering this because we're not covering this.
You know, we're not covering it because we're not covering it.
And in some ways, if it were just the Democrat Party, you would say, all right, they're a bunch of hypocrites, right?
They're complete liars.
They're politicians.
All politicians are dishonest at times.
I can't work up the same energy to hate Nancy Pelosi for her po-faced lies that I can for these media people whose job it is to inform us of the truth.
I want to go back, though, and just we have to go back for just a minute and revisit the Brett Kavanaugh thing.
Here are the women of the Democrat Party talking about Christine Blasey Ford's completely unsubstantiated charges against Brett Kavanaugh.
I mean, you have to remember this.
And Molly Hemingway wrote a good piece about this recently at the Federalist.
There's no proof that Christine Blasey Ford ever met Brett Kavanaugh.
All the people she cited as backup said no, we don't, all of them.
There's no one, no one, no one said, oh yeah, I was there, I remember that, it was terrible.
No one said that.
The people she said were at the party said we weren't at that party.
I don't remember that party.
There's no corroborating evidence.
Here's the way women reacted when this, I believe, is as she's testifying right before she's testifying.
I believe Dr. Ford.
I thought she was credible.
I believe her.
Her story is credible.
It comes down to credibility, to your point, Gail.
And it's going to be about listening to what each party has to say, but I believe her.
I was proud of Dr. Blasey Ford's response and her demeanor, but more importantly, her courage in stepping forward.
We must, first and foremost, protect and support the alleged victim as they come forward.
This is a very difficult thing that she is doing, and I applaud her for her courage.
Anybody who comes forward at this point, that takes an extraordinary amount of courage.
There is no doubt in my mind, Harris, that Dr. Ford was a credible witness.
Her honesty, her integrity, her truth.
It's obvious.
A credible, credible woman coming across.
Dr. Ford coming forward and courageous enough to come forward without any benefit to her.
She has nothing to gain.
So Senator has to gain.
The victims are blamed often, and they're not believed, and that's why they're reluctant to come forward.
So that's, you know, that is that story covered.
Here's a Time magazine news cover in which that is made up of all these kind of words where Christine Blasey Ford's face is made up of all these words about belief and the Me Too movement.
Now women are coming forward and everything says this.
18 months ago, a year and a half ago, Tara Reed comes forward and says this happened.
And also let's remember the different charges.
One charge was as a teenager, this guy laid down on top of her and she felt that she was threatened with rape and then he fell off and was laughing and he was drunk.
If that happened, that's bad.
But it is bad.
You know, it's not the way you should treat other people, obviously, and teenagers are not off the hook.
However, at the point where you're 50 and every woman you know is saying, no, the guy's a great guy, you might be able to say, well, you know, sometimes you have to leave the past behind.
We've all done stupid things.
That was a stupid thing I did.
If there were any corroboration at all.
What this woman is talking about is Senator Joe Biden in 1993, when he was already 75 or 92 or something, pushed him up against, pushed her up against the wall and stuck his fingers up her.
And then when she shoved them off, said, gee, I thought you liked me.
So Tara Reid said, you know, my mother called the Larry King show and complained about this at the time because there was no place for me to go.
And she talked to Larry King.
Now, this is on CNN.
Larry King shows on CNN.
CNN did not find this.
Our friends at Newsbusters at the Media Research Center, they dug it up and the Intercept wrote a story about it.
Here's the tape that Tara Reid says is her mother calling Larry King.
I'm wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in Washington.
My daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator and could not get through with her problems at all.
And the only thing she could have done was go to the press and she chose not to do it out of respect for him.
Or she had a story to tell, but out of respect for the person she worked for, she didn't tell it.
That's true.
So CNN, after a long delay, offered one story about this on Saturday afternoon.
One story.
They finally covered it.
The media, the mainstream networks did not cover it on Sunday at all.
And they had people on.
They could have interviewed, like, you know, Nancy Pelosi was on.
Look, if it had been Kavanaugh, they would have interviewed anybody.
When Julie Swetnick came forward, and I'll remind you who that is in just a second, when she came forward, CNN gave Michael Avenatta, remember Michael Avenatti, who I think was sprung from prison because of the virus.
They gave him 35 minutes across three prime time shows.
Michael Avenatti was Julie Swetnick's lawyer, and she was the one who accused Kavanaugh of standing outside a bedroom where numerous boys were waiting their turn to be to have sex with a girl inside the room essentially a gang rape and they but she was so drunk that was the thing was getting her drunk and then she was on and I believe it was NBC's Kate Snow who started to say, well, wait that your story is now changing and all you're saying is, you saw him with a red plastic cup and he was standing with a bunch of guys.
I mean, her story fell apart very, very quickly when she was questioned, but that did not stop all the papers, including the, the NEW YORK Times, a former newspaper, from covering this.
So when Dean BK comes out and says well, we covered it because we were covering it, but we're not covering this because we're not covering it, that is what he did.
And remember, in both these cases, Joe Biden is a human being, Brett Kavanaugh is a human being.
These are things that are happening to them, that aren't necessarily fair, and the thing that's happening to Joe Biden, I mean it's not this.
So far.
So far we don't have any evidence, we don't have any proof.
The story is not about Joe Biden.
The story so far is not about Joe Biden.
The story is about the press.
The story is about the press creating a fake universe, and the fake universe was that now we care this fake story was.
Now we care what women say.
Now we care what women are doing.
Now we care what's happening to women.
That was a fake story.
We know it was a fake story.
Not only was it a fake story for the Democrats, it was a fake story for the news media.
Lawyers Misusing the First Amendment00:12:29
And then we've got Biden.
At the same time, we've got this poor schnook, Joe Biden, who's essentially now a cigar store Indian.
The guy is deteriorating in front of us.
They put out this Biden camp, put this video out over the weekend.
This is Jill and Joe Biden.
If you can see it, his face is hilarious.
But go ahead and together we're just getting started.
This moment reminds us that the presidency is about true leadership, having the forethought to prepare for the worst.
The backbone to lead through chaos.
The character to move beyond politics and serve every American, no matter where they live or what they believe.
Only one candidate in this election has all three, my husband, our next president of the United States, Joe Biden, I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message.
I mean through the thing.
If you can't see it, he's standing next to her with this frown on his face.
A lot of people on Twitter said he looked just like Jeff Dunham's ventriloquist puppet, Walter this grumpy puppet they call us and he did look like a ventriloquist thing, except he's not talking.
So the only person, the only person in this race who is the man who can lead us, is this block of wood standing behind me who can no longer put an English sentence together and who cannot be trusted to do his own thing, so his wife is doing it for him.
I mean this and this is, but it's not a story, it's not a question, it's not even an issue.
It's not even an issue whether this guy is competent to run for the presidency of the United States.
There's all these rumors going around.
I know all the leftists are saying, well, what he's going to do?
He's going to appoint a vice president and then he's going to resign.
And the vice presidents who watch the vice president candidate, look, you're living in a fake world.
You're living.
I mean this is, you know, Ronald Reagan.
Reagan said that the problem with Democrats is not that they don't know anything.
It's that so much of what they know is untrue.
This is the problem.
This is the problem.
You can't even have a conversation with them about the issues because they don't have the facts because they are living in the matrix.
And that's the thing.
It's all the matrix.
The issues, the ideas, the facts.
It's all the matrix now.
And this is proof of it.
All right.
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All right.
Let us talk about the.
I have to read you a couple things that I think hopefully will make you insane.
I don't want to make you ruin your day, but I think you have to hear about some of this stuff.
NBC, on their website, they have a piece by Andy Lack, right?
The president of NBC News.
Journalism is under attack from coronavirus and the White House, but we're winning.
At this dark hour, Americans are scared.
They're hungry for accurate information and unvarnished truth.
Now and in all the days to come, journalists will be there.
This is from Andy Lack.
And I will remind you, once again, Andy Lack is the guy who, one of the guys who killed the Harvey Weinstein story at the behest or under pressure, we should say, from their Comcast masters, who also own Universal, so it's a Hollywood enterprise, who were under pressure, according to Ronan Farrow, in a very well-researched and very plausible book that I read.
You know, it's a very plausible story that basically they put the pressure on Andy Lack and Andy Lack caved and covered up for Harvey Weinstein.
So killed Ronan Farrow's incredibly well-researched, incredibly well-backed up story.
All these women who had gone on camera and said, yes, Harvey Weinstein did this, this, and this, and Andy Lack was like, well, you know, I mean, I think, does people really care?
Is this really a story?
Does anybody know who Harvey Weinstein is?
That's really what they said.
They basically covered this up while, let's not forget, they were covering up Matt Lauer's depredations against women in-house, okay?
So who are you if you're believing this?
Who are you if these are the issues that are your issues?
Who are you if you're saying, you know, yeah, believe all women, this is really the important issue of the day, and now it's not.
You know, I mean, you are just being toyed with.
You're just being used.
And you're, you know, it's not enough to say, well, it was wrong when Brett Kavanaugh did it, then they made a big issue out of it, and that was right.
And it's wrong when Joe Biden did it, and they're not making a big issue.
No, no.
This is the atmosphere in which we live.
This is the atmosphere of information in which we live.
They know they can control it.
I want to read you something from The Atlantic.
An unbelievable piece.
It's beyond my ability to imagine.
If you had told me that this piece would run in The Atlantic magazine, if you told me 10 years ago, I simply would not have believed you.
This is by Jack Goldsmith, a Harvard Law School professor.
Young people are in this guy's charge.
And Andrew Keene Woods, a professor of law at the University of Arizona College of Law.
Also, young people being taught by this guy.
I got to just read it to you because I can't make it up.
COVID-19 has emboldened American tech platforms to emerge from their defensive crouch.
Before the pandemic, they were targets of public outrage over life under their dominion.
Today, the platforms are proudly collaborating with one another and following government guidance to censor harmful information related to the coronavirus, and they're using their prodigious data collection capacities in coordination with federal and state governments to improve contact tracing.
That's whom you've seen, quarantine enforcement, and other health measures.
So they're spying on you and they're censoring information.
Big business, big business is spying on you and censoring information, okay?
Civil rights groups are tolerating these measures, but are also urging a swift return to normal when the virus ebbs.
We need, quote, to make sure when we've made it past this crisis, our country isn't transformed into a place we don't want to live, warns the American Civil Liberties Union.
But, says the two law school writers, but the extraordinary measures we are seeing are not all that extraordinary.
Powerful forces were pushing toward greater censorship and surveillance of digital networks long before the coronavirus jumped out of the wet markets in Wuhan, China, and they will continue to do so once the crisis passes.
So they'll continue to censor information and spy on you.
The practices that American tech platforms have undertaken during the pandemic represent not a break from prior developments, but an acceleration of what was already happening.
In other words, the stuff you and I have complained about is the stuff they're now bragging about.
As surprising as it may sound, say these two law guys who apparently have never read the First Amendment, as surprising as it may sound, digital surveillance and speech control in the United States already show many similarities to what one finds in authoritarian states such as China.
Constitutional and cultural differences mean that the private sector rather than the federal and state governments currently takes the lead in these practices, which further values and address threats different from those in China.
But the trend toward greater surveillance and speech control here and toward the growing involvement of government is undeniable and likely inexorable.
In the great debate of the past two decades about freedom versus control of the network, China was largely right and the United States was largely wrong.
This is the Atlantic running an editorial recommending that big business, what they're really saying is China is right to censor information and surveil people, but we can't do that.
Government can't do that here.
So big business will take the place and China was right and the United States was wrong.
That's a Harvard law professor.
Those are two law professors writing that, okay?
Which just goes to show you, again, going back to this idea that these people are out of touch with the people.
And there are two Americas.
There's the America that's out of work and the America that's not out of work.
There's the America that's doing great and can work from home, which is like 60% of America at this point, and the America that is basically being treated like serfs because they can't make their own decisions.
They can't have the information they need.
This is an amazing, amazing moment in America because it's going to, it can really, it could get ugly.
I'm hoping it won't, but something has to break this, break the bonds.
I mean, we cannot have Harvard law professors teaching people that the China, the state of China, which is a tyrannical state, should be imitated here, should be imitated here by big business.
What happened to the left?
What happened to the left that used to say, well, big business is a threat.
We need to break it up.
Monopolies, these are bad.
I mean, we know what happened to it because we know we've heard them say the First Amendment was good when it was helping us, bad now that it's helping the right.
They are weaponizing the First Amendment.
We know, we know from the Biden story, we know from the way they've treated the First Amendment, it's all about them having the power.
And who are they?
Who are they?
I mean, this is the thing that gets me.
You know, every now and again I go to a dinner that's run by conservatives and we sit around and an expert comes and talks about things that he knows about or an article he's written and then we all ask him questions and we have a discussion.
And it's, you know, just prominent conservative people in LA.
And once, a couple of years ago, a guy came who had been interviewing people in Silicon Valley, basically saying that people shouldn't should be given a universal income because they weren't going to have jobs anymore and that's fine.
And I said to him, where's the meaning of life going to come from for people who don't have a useful purpose in society anymore?
And the guy actually said to me, well, it would be like Burning Man.
You know, it'll be like Burning Man.
You know, you'll take some drugs, you'll talk.
And this dinner has become kind of famous among this group because I climbed so far down this guy's throat, they had to grab me by the ankles and pull me up because I was about to rip him a new one from within.
And because I thought, like, this is a guy, a knucklehead, completely out of touch with the fact that people have lives.
People count.
They matter.
Our people count.
Our people matter.
You know, listen, I'm not pretending that I'm the person that I'm talking about.
I know I'm still here working.
I'm still getting paid for what I do.
I can work from home.
I've done things over my life that sort of take care of me.
I get that.
But I also, I am an American.
You know, the people who are hurting are my fellow Americans.
I do give a damn, you know.
And meanwhile, it's like these people don't even understand the reality of the people they're talking about.
I want to play a clip of Ann Applebaum complaining about the misinformation from Donald Trump.
Misinformation is a tactic, and it's one that Trump has used to great success in his political career, starting with using it against President Obama, accusing him of having been born outside the United States.
It's also a tool that many other leaders had used frequently and regularly as a way of distracting their populations, as a way of dividing them, and also as a way of undermining real news and undermining real facts so that when they are accused of being corrupt or when unflattering stories about them appear, all they have to do is say, oh, that's the fake news media.
You know, we don't believe in it.
We've all got rather used to this in the United States.
But of course, this is a tactic used around the world by many leaders.
You know, it's not just Trump alone.
And in many ways, it's Trump's prime borrowing from the authoritarian playbook.
So she's accusing Trump of being an authoritarian.
Come on, man.
She's accusing Trump of being an authoritarian.
Ann Applebaum's a good reporter.
She's done good journalism.
She clearly just doesn't know.
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I mean, Obama, you know, bugged people's phones.
He tried to accuse people of espionage.
He really was oppressive to the press.
Trump has done none of those things.
But Ann Applebaum, she is just part of another America, part of the America that is fine, that is doing fine, not the part of America that called on Trump to help them in their pain.
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So I want to play this comic piece from Australia about celebrities to kick off this.
We're going to talk about corona, the virus, and reopening and all this stuff.
But I want to just start it with this piece from Australia.
They're mentioning a lot of celebrities, some of whom you won't know because they're Australian, but you'll get the point.
I see a number of deaths every day, and the constant threat of being infected and taking that home to my family is terrifying.
But the one thing that gives me strength to get to my job every day is watching Ellen broadcast from her mansion.
This is like being a jam, is what it is.
I've been waiting on hold for something for days now.
I've lost my job.
I've got my money.
I've lost everything.
But this video of Amanda Killer dancing around in the massive kitchens is really getting me through.
I have been working for 48 hours straight and my face hurts from wearing a mask for so long.
I was going to go liquor patient to end it all, but Manu from MasterChef reminded me why I'm here.
I just had to break up a fight in Isle 3 and every day people call me a finger.
But having Sam Armitage reassure me from her sprawling rural property really makes it all worthwhile.
So, you know, this is the thing.
This thing has exposed two kinds of people and they ain't black and white and they ain't left and right.
They are people who can live in this kind of environment and keep their jobs and have money and are doing well and people who are struggling.
And it has also revealed the fact that the people who give us information, the press, the news media, are part of that first group, the people who have what they need, who are completely taken care of, who are, you know, just can stay home and do their job from home if they want to forever, if they need to, and do not know that other people exist.
It is one thing to be Chuck Todd.
It's another thing not to know you're Chuck Todd, okay?
This is the thing that really is so troubling.
It is one thing to be a good journalist like Ann Applebaum saying, oh, Donald Trump is sending out misinformation, disinformation, without realizing your entire industry is a generator of disinformation to the point where it has created a fake universe.
And how are we supposed to talk to one another if one side of us actually believes that the Me Too movement was very important and suddenly not?
You know, I mean, that the Me Too, oh, yeah, really big, but suddenly not.
That Brett Kavanaugh was accused of something, but not Joe Biden.
I mean, how can you even talk to people before you get the fact that, you know, the Stacey Abrams was cheated out of a governorship?
You know, these are things they actually believe because the press is selling them a false universe.
And they do it not just by what they say, but by what they don't say.
So now it's time to reopen.
We have to do it.
We cannot let something like 20 to 30 million people now out of work.
It's ridiculous.
You cannot have a depression caused by a situation that's not going to change.
It's not going to change.
It's not going away.
And everybody is now saying this.
And everybody's now all the states are making slow movements.
And I have been from the very beginning.
I have not been on a soapbox saying liberty, liberty.
It's all, you know, it's not a libertarian question.
It is in some places where you guys, guys like Bill de Blasio being jerks, but they're jerks, okay?
It's not systemically a it's not systemically a question of our liberties.
It is a question of just getting back to life.
It is a question of getting back to life.
It's not even a question.
I haven't even stomped on all the misuse of statistics where people say, well, it's only 50,000 people dead because it's not a question of how many.
It's a question of how many, how fast and in how small a location.
If Godzilla came down the street and killed 17 people, no one would say, well, you know, 17 people, 17 people have a heart attack.
They'd all say, it's Godzilla, right?
Same thing with this.
It's not the numbers.
It's how it's happening.
It's why it's happening.
What we can do to prevent it.
So I do believe in taking care.
But here is Kevin Stitt, the Oklahoma governor, and he goes on Chris Wallace's show.
And Chris Wallace is just hammering because he's starting to reopen.
He's doing it cautiously, doing it carefully.
But all Wallace will say, he's like, aren't you afraid?
Isn't the terror?
Isn't there?
And here's his response.
You have to go back and think about why we closed down in the first place.
You know, I've issued 15 executive orders since March 15th when I first declared the state of emergency, but it was to build capacity in our hospitals to make sure we didn't overrun our health care system.
It was to build supply for PPE and it was to flatten the curve.
The facts in our state are March 30th we had we peaked in hospitalizations with 560 across the state.
Today we have 300 across the state in our hospitals.
We built capacity.
We now have 4,600 hospital beds for COVID-related patients.
And that was the whole objective when we got here on March 15th and we started this executive orders was to build capacity in our hospitals because we understand that COVID is still here.
People are still going to get it.
But Oklahomans are safe and we're ready for a measured reopening.
So that makes perfect sense.
And remember, the hospitals are being killed by this, right?
Because they can't bring in all the people who get the usual services that they provide.
The elected surgeries, the surgeries that are not elected, the normal cancer care and the normal care that people need that they get from hospitals.
And they can't open for that because they're so focused on this and they're protecting people.
And it's been, and people are locked down.
So it's been bad economically for even the hospitals.
So the hospitals are in trouble too.
So of course we have to open up.
And of course it's going to have, there's going to be some spikes.
We want to do it carefully because you do not want such a bad spike that we have to shut down again.
See, that would be a disaster.
If we have to shut down twice, that's a true disaster.
So there's nobody saying, you know, like charge the barricades.
There's nobody saying get back in.
But here's a lady, I just want to show you this because I found this very moving.
I actually found this incredibly moving.
A lady in Georgia who's reopening her hair salon and she sends this message out to her customers.
We're all wearing masks.
We're going to have gloves on.
We need you to wear a mask as well.
You'll come up to this window, big sign, check in here.
There's instructions to sanitize first, sit in your car and wait on your stylist to come get you.
Once your stylist comes and gets you, then you will be able to enter into the salon.
Upon checking out, we do have, I guess, a mark on the floor here.
That's where you'll stand to check out.
You'll also have your temperature checked, so be prepared for that.
The reason I find this so moving is because she's not an expert.
She's not Anthony Fauci.
She's not Andrew Cuomo.
She's not the governor of anything.
She's just a girl trying to get her business up and running again.
An all-American girl trying to do what all-American people do, which is live her life.
She wants to be careful.
She wants to take care of her customers.
She wants to take care of herself, but she wants her business running again.
She's got courage.
She's got common sense.
She's got a plan.
She doesn't need anybody telling her what to do.
This is the thing.
She does not need anybody telling her what to do.
I think most Americans are like this.
I think most Americans are smart enough, especially people who are running small businesses.
It takes a good mind to run a small business.
They are ready to come back and take precautions.
And people, again, you know, I don't think people are going to just run out and crowd restaurants and crowd theaters.
I think there's going to be economic blowback.
Steve Mnuchin, Treasury Secretary, he says he thinks things will come back pretty quickly.
I don't think anybody knows, but let's take a listen at least to what he says.
I think as we begin to reopen the economy in May and June, you're going to see the economy really bounce back in July, August, September.
And we are putting in an unprecedented amount of fiscal relief into the economy.
You're seeing trillions of dollars that's making its way into the economy, and I think this is going to have a significant impact.
So he's saying we'll come back pretty quickly.
On the other hand, you have Ayana Presley, she's like the Chico Marx of the squad.
She just wants, she just wants free stuff.
She wants this to be, this is a great opportunity for free stuff.
So these are the two sides.
Bring back the economy.
Let people do their thing.
Let free people do their free business thing.
And here's Ayana Presley.
The things that I'll be fighting for, student debt cancellation.
We need rent and mortgage cancellation.
And Maya adds not just residential, but commercial as well.
More money for our community health centers because they serve our most vulnerable, for our undocumented and our immigrant family, friends, and neighbors.
What else?
Direct cash assistance?
More support for our food banks because food insecurity has been the number one issue that I've heard.
So just remember, the person who takes care of you is the person with the power.
When your mom and dad are taking care of you, you've got to obey the rules in their house because you need them to take care of you.
When you go out on your own and you start making your own living, you can do what you want.
Power Dynamics Revealed00:03:45
Same thing with this.
When they're giving you free health care, when they're giving you free loans, when they're giving you free this and free that, they're in control.
When you're out there like that lady in Georgia running your own business, making your own decisions, bringing in your own income, then you make the rules.
It's that simple.
The Democrats aren't, they're not selling, they're buying.
They're not giving you stuff.
They're taking stuff away.
The money that they give you is to buy stuff.
It is to buy your freedom.
It is to buy your rights.
Why?
Because they think you're deplorable.
They think you're deplorable and should not be making the decisions.
They despise the small business person.
they despise the individual, they despise the person who has, you know, they're telling you they want big business to censor your information and spy on you because China was right and the United States is wrong to give you freedom.
This is the.
This is the fight we're in.
This is a real thing.
And they are creating a matrix of misinformation to get their power in place, to get their vision in place, to create a free market China that works just like China does.
All right, a final reflection.
I told you over the weekends, we've been trying to watch classic films.
So this is a kind of one that's kind of in keeping with the theme of what I've been talking about because it's kind of a Me Too story.
It's The Apartment by Billy Wilder.
Billy Wilder, one of the greatest writers, directors of the golden age of Hollywood.
Just so much stuff.
What did he do?
Sunset Boulevard, Double Indemnity.
Oh, man, some like it hot.
I mean, just one classic, classic picture after another.
And this is about a Shmo in a big company, Jack Lemon, who is loaning his apartment to the executives above them so that they can cheat on their wives, bring girls there to their apartment to cheat on their wives.
And Shirley McClain plays the elevator operator in the building, who's very cute, obviously.
And this is a scene in which one of the guys just gives her a flack on the backside and she shames him.
And then the conversation follows between this guy and Jack Lemon.
Watch your step.
Man, watch your hands, Mr. Kirkby.
beg your pardon one of these days i'm gonna shut these doors on you and 20 next that cubic boy would i like to get her on a slow elevator to china She's the best operator in the building.
Well, I'm pretty good operator myself.
She just won't give me a tumble date-wise.
Maybe you're using the wrong approach.
A lot of guys around here have tried it.
All kinds of approaches.
No dice.
What's she trying to prove?
Well, it could be she's just a nice, respectable girl.
There's millions of them.
Listen to him.
Little Lord Fauntleroy.
The thing is, she's not.
She is also having an affair with a married man who is stringing her along, telling her he's going to get a divorce, telling her that he loves her.
When he's obviously just using her, he's done it again and again and again.
Fred McMurray plays the bad guy.
Famously, somebody came up, Fred McMurray, famous for being like the father in my three sons, kind of a good guy type character.
And somebody apparently came up to him in Disneyland and slapped him for being in this movie.
And he said, I'll never do it again.
I'm never going to play a part like this again, where I'm an evildoer.
The thing about this is, it's a great, it's a terrific movie.
It's just a really, it's funny, it's fun, it's very poignant.
But the thing about it is, is that it is honest about the female character about Shirley McClain, is that she is in love with the guy who is using her.
She's in love with the guy who is abusing her.
She knows he's abusing her.
She knows he doesn't care about her.
She knows he's lying to her and she loves him.
And that's an important point.
You know, I think that this is an important thing that you have to realize because then it shares the responsibility.
It's a question of how do you get out of that situation?
How do you get out of that mindset?
And this is a closing thought.
I want to tell you that I think that is what is happening to a lot of our liberal friends.
They know they're being lied to.
Loves Abused00:02:12
They know they're getting disinformation, but it's telling them what they want to hear.
And they're in love with the people who are creating the false world that isn't there.
They love that false world just like Shirley McClain loves the false world in which this guy loves her.
They are being abused by a media that has lost its sense of what they're supposed to do and who they're supposed to do it for.
And it's abusive.
It is abusive what the New York Times does, what ABC, NBC, CBS does when they tell you they care about women and the Me Too movement.
And then it turns out, no, they just care about power.
That's abusive.
But on the other hand, there's this audience that wants to be abused because it's comfortable in the matrix.
They don't have to hear the opposing opinions like we hear on this show.
All right.
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It's a little past midnight on May 22nd, 1986.
Steve Bryant walks towards his van on a quiet residential street in West Los Angeles.
With his round glasses and soft, kind eyes, Steve could be a UCLA grad student.
But the truth is, he's a college dropout.
While he's spent the last two years studying and writing, it's not about anything you'd learn in school.
He's been living in his van as he crisscrosses the country, trying to get people to listen to his tale of abuse, corruption, and fraud by a worldwide religious organization.
It's an explosive story, bursting with salacious details that will blow people's minds if they'll only believe him.
And that's the problem.
He's talked to reporters, written a book.
He's talked to anyone who would listen.
But most people dismiss him as a nutcase.
And the ones who do believe him, insiders who saw things firsthand, are afraid to speak up.
And the ones in power, the ones who know the truth, they want to see him silenced.
When he thinks about everything that's happened, all he can do is shake his head.
He was in his early 20s when he joined.
He was a happy guy.
He'd finally found a community where he felt like he really belonged.
Now he's 33, divorced.
He's lost custody of his kids.
So many battles and all of them lost.
A couple of weeks ago, he finally admitted defeat.
The bad guys have won.
Now it's time to just let go of the anger and let go of the hurt and move on.
Tomorrow, he'll head up to the bucolic town of Mount Shasta, California, where he has a lead on a job customizing vans.
He wants to start over, have a normal life.
Tonight was a good night spent with old friends.
He didn't have to convince them of anything.
They know he's telling the truth.
Their conversation was about the future and new beginnings.
The message was clear.
Move on, Steve.
Let it go and live your life.
But he knows he's in danger.
That's why he refused his friend's invitation to spend the night at their apartment.
The last thing he wants to do is draw them into this mess.
He'll park a few blocks away and spend the night in his van.
He crawls into the back, lays on his home-built bed, and wraps himself in a blanket.
It's after midnight, and he's exhausted, but his mind keeps racing.
He closes his eyes, willing sleep to come.
But sleep is not cooperating.
He throws off the blanket, crawls into the driver's seat, and rolls a joint, chanting softly as he rolls.
Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna.
Hare Krishna devotees like Steve aren't supposed to do drugs.
They aren't supposed to do a lot of things, but some of them do.
Some of them do terrible things.
And if you speak up and challenge their authority, he shakes his head.
Let it go, Steve.
You're moving on.
New beginnings.
As he fires up the joint, there's a tap on his window.
He turns and recognizes the face in the shadows immediately.
It's not someone he wants to see.
Tirta or Thomas Drescher.
Tirta lives in West Virginia, so he should not be here.
Not in LA and certainly not standing next to Steve's van late at night.
Maybe it's Steve's mind playing tricks.
He blinks to see if Tirta will disappear.
But when he opens his eyes, Tirta is still there staring at him.
Steve keeps chanting, Hare Rama, Hare Rama.
Does he still believe in Krishna?
After so many years of disappointment, after losing his wife, losing his children, his innocence, part of him still does.
And all of him needs Lord Krishna's protection right now.