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April 1, 2020 - Andrew Klavan Show
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Ep. 871 - Into the Whirlwind

Andrew Clavin skewers media bias, exposing CNN’s 1983-era ratings collapse while ignoring Trump’s record-breaking briefings, and slams The New York Times for cherry-picking Fauci’s cautious pandemic modeling—"models are as good as the assumptions"—to stoke fear. He contrasts early COVID-19 downplaying by Joe Scarborough with Trump’s February warnings and Mnuchin’s Davos intervention, then pivots to Sweden’s lockdown-free approach amid U.S. hysteria over inflated death projections. The episode blends sharp media critiques with listener mailbag advice—from dismissing pandemic anxiety as "futile" to condemning exotic pet ownership—culminating in a defense of divine judgment over human dogma, all wrapped in promotions for Beard Supply and All Access Live. [Automatically generated summary]

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Journalists' Irrational Predictions 00:05:04
You know, it's not that the American news media is a flaming dumpster filled with unintelligent incompetence, so primed by their second-rate educations with anti-American hatred and a love of socialism, which forces them to ignore the very facts they're supposed to gather and instead to wallow in their own ugly disdain for the high ideas and ordinary people who've made this country great,
that it seems like every time journalists open their mouths, they're spewing a sort of green bile made of some unholy mixture of ignorance and hostility until the bile grows so thick and deep around them they begin to sink into it up to their noses, whereupon they're actually both vomiting the filthy stuff and breathing it in at the same time like a sort of perpetual motion machine of absolute awfulness.
Wait, maybe it is that.
But the point is, journalists are not happy that the president's daily press briefings are one, getting better ratings than all of CNN's good days since 1983 added together, and two, increasing Trump's popularity when he represents the very values journalists despise, like freedom, patriotism, common decency, love of God.
So, various news outlets are planning measures to ensure that no one will be able to watch the briefings without simultaneously absorbing a gigantic loo of seething animosity, or as it's sometimes called, Chuck Todd.
For instance, CNN, which is currently that lonely voice you hear echoing through empty airports, simply won't cover the briefings because they feel what the president and his medical staff have to say during a pandemic isn't really news compared to Don Lemon staring soulfully into a camera like a stuffed moose, only stupid.
The New York Times, a former newspaper, will continue to cover the briefings, but will only report those portions that increase fear and make the president look bad.
And of course, NBC has rehired Matt Lauer to cover the briefings because sometimes there are girls there, so who knows?
You might get lucky.
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Well, I always tell you that I deliver tomorrow's news today.
And if you were fool enough not to believe me, all you had to do was listen to yesterday's presidential briefing where government flu fighter Dr. Anthony Fauci tried to explain to reporters how computer modeling works, which is sort of like trying to explain astrophysics to a desk lamp.
However, he spoke very clearly and very well, and in doing so, he could almost have been quoting what I've been telling you for the past couple of weeks.
I'll play the clip for you now.
And for those of you who are trying to earn your black belt in the ancient art of clavinati, try to spot the one phrase that caught my attention as an important piece of wisdom to have when you're listening to predictions.
What we do is that every time we get more data, you feed it back in and re-look at the model.
Is the model really telling you what's actually going on?
And again, I know my modeling colleagues are going to not be happy with me, but models are as good as the assumptions you put into them.
And as we get more data, then you put it in, and that might change.
So that's what I've been telling you about modeling for two weeks, right?
That they don't, what they predict is what would happen if yesterday continues to happen forever.
They don't really predict anything else.
The phrase that gives you an important piece of wisdom going forward is this one.
I know my modeling colleagues are not going to be happy with me.
The full sentence was, I know my modeling colleagues are not going to be happy with me, but models are as good as the assumptions you put into them.
So think about that.
Think about the psychology of that.
Why would modelers not be happy to hear what any 10-year-old geek could tell them?
Garbage in, garbage out.
They're unhappy because like just about everybody who thinks he can predict the future of a complex, non-repetitive event, they have a system and they think the system can do what everyone knows no system can do, namely predict the future of a complex, non-repetitive event.
People are irrational.
Experts are irrational.
Irrationality from experts is even more irrational because they know more, but it's just the same.
They don't know what's going to happen with this virus.
They don't know what's going to happen with the climate.
Yesterday, the Federal Reserve predicted there'll be unemployment higher than the Great Depression.
They don't know that.
Fauci is a good guy to listen to on the numbers because like me and Socrates, he knows he doesn't know.
He's just sharing what he's got so far, and he keeps explaining that.
But the people not to listen to are the journalists who report what he explains as if it were an actual prediction, which it's not.
And you shouldn't listen to the modelers who are unhappy when people point out their models are just predictions with computers attached and they're not really very trustworthy.
They get more trustworthy as they go forward because they're predicting things that have already happened.
This is a worrying time.
This Is The Time We Have To Be Prepared 00:17:18
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You might be worried about your job, the economy.
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But don't be worried about bad reporters saying stupid things about flawed computer models.
Stay safe and let's hope our leaders don't destroy the country and the economy on the word of people who are absolutely certain they know what they can't possibly know.
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So look, it seems like we're going into the worst of this.
We're going into the whirlwind.
This is when the numbers are going to peak.
President Trump was telling breaking into the country yesterday, this is cut five.
I want every American to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead.
We're going to go through a very tough two weeks.
And then hopefully, as the experts are predicting, as I think a lot of us are predicting after having studied it so hard, you're going to start seeing some real light at the end of the tunnel.
But this is going to be a very painful, very, very painful two weeks.
When you look and see at night the kind of death that's been caused by this invisible enemy, it's incredible.
It is, you know, the numbers are bad.
The things that are happening, especially in places like New York, are bad, and we're going to be affected by it.
But a lot of what you're going to be doing in these times is you're going to be managing anxiety.
You're going to be managing expectations.
Really important in doing that to know how to listen to the news.
And I hit the news all the time because they're corrupt and their corruption has to do with the fact that they all believe the same thing and they surround themselves with people who believe the same thing and they don't believe what Americans believe and they don't care about the Americans who don't agree with them.
I hit them on that corruption, but I also want to hit them on their incompetence.
They're not very good at what they do.
I mean, they just, the people they should be sending to these briefings are medical reporters and business reporters, not gotcha Donald Trump reporters.
They should be sending somebody who at least knows what a computer model is and how it works, who knows about disease, who knows about business so they can do cost analysis and say, well, you know, are we taking the right measures or is the cure going to be worse than the disease?
That's a perfectly fair question.
Instead, we've got these guys asking absolutely stupid questions and reporting things badly.
And I really want to take a close look at that to help manage your anxieties and expectations.
All right.
So let me show you what I'm talking about, about the way this works.
Jim, look at me on Jim Acosta, who's basically a waste of space.
I mean, the guy should not be on television.
He's not good at what he does.
He's an incompetent and he's not very intelligent and he confuses his opinions with the news.
And I assume that's what CNN wants them to do.
And that means they're incompetent and they're corrupt.
So Jim, look at me on Jim Acosta, asks Fauci a question about the numbers of deaths he's now expecting.
Now, listen carefully to the exchange.
I'll talk about it afterwards.
It's cut eight.
Dr. Fauci, should Americans be prepared for the likelihood that there will be 100,000 Americans who die from this virus?
The answer is yes.
As sobering a number as that is, we should be prepared for it.
Is it going to be that much?
I hope not.
And I think the more we push on the mitigation, the less likelihood it would be that number.
But as being realistic, we need to prepare ourselves that that is a possibility, that that's what we will see.
All right.
The question is, should we be prepared for 100,000 and more deaths, 100,000 to 200,000 deaths?
Should we be prepared?
Should our hearts be prepared?
Should we be steeled for that?
And he's saying yes.
He's trying to let us know that we're going into the peak.
We're going into the whirlwind.
This is the time we have to be prepared.
I mean, if I said, you know, we're going over the top, we're going to charge the enemy guns, you've got to be prepared for what's going to happen.
That's a perfectly fair response.
Here's how it was reported by the worst network, which is NBC News.
This is Lester Holt.
This is cut to how it was reported to Lester Holt on NBC.
As the administration considers next steps, the White House is now projecting that the country could see between 100,000 to 240,000 deaths resulting from this pandemic.
That's a best case scenario, underscoring the stark reality of this crisis.
Lester?
Still can't wrap my mind around those numbers, but thank you, Jeff.
It's the best case scenario.
So Fauci comes up and says, yes, we should be prepared for that.
I hope it's not going to be that bad.
And he's talked about the modeling.
When he was talking about the modeling, the cut I played at the opening, what he was saying was, as we go, this is what the model says right now.
But remember, the model has come down.
Pardon me.
It's come down from 2.5 million.
They started at 2.5 million.
Now they're down to 100,000 to 240,000.
Worst case scenario.
On NBC, they're reporting it as the best case scenario.
Acosta brings it back to CNN.
And this is the way he's talking about it.
It was CUT 22.
In the seven years I have covered the White House, that is the most stunning briefing that I've ever sat through to have public health officials come in and try to explain to the American people that they need to come to grips with the fact or the very strong likelihood that we're going to see 100 to 200,000 Americans die over the next couple of months from the coronavirus.
I have to tell you, it was just downright chilling.
It's like facts being translated into news, right?
Facts being translated into news that this is the likelihood.
That's not what Fauci said.
He said, you have to be prepared for the worst.
And this is what the models are saying now.
And he goes on to say, we're trying to bring this down.
We are trying.
This is what we're doing.
We're trying to bring this number down.
So is it stupidity or is it corruption or both?
It's both.
It's corruption because there's nobody there to correct them.
There's nobody there to question them.
There's just people who listen to what they bring back and nobody says, well, wait, I heard that too.
And you're rejiggering the numbers.
And it's stupidity because they don't understand what's being said and they're not being careful in reporting it.
I mean, what do they think is happening to people at home?
You know, what do they think is happening to people who are just getting their information?
I mean, anybody who's getting their information from CNN is a low information person to begin with.
But what do they think is happening to people?
People are worried.
People are sick.
People have relatives who are sick, friends who are sick.
You know, they have a responsibility to interpret the numbers as the numbers are coming to them, and they're not doing that.
On top of which, on top of which, they have been badgering and badgering and badgering Donald Trump to be depressed, to be fearful, to spread fear, to spread worst case scenarios.
They keep accusing him of giving people false hope.
They do it again and again and again.
Acosta, Jim, look at me.
I'm Jim Acosta, did it at the briefing, and Trump's response was very telling.
This is CUT 16.
Is there any fairness to the criticism that you may have lulled Americans into a false sense of security when you were saying things like it's going to go away and that sort of thing.
But Jim, it's going away.
But when you were saying it.
It's going to go away, hopefully at the end of the month.
And if not, it hopefully will be soon after that.
Jim, it is going away.
Hasn't your thinking on this evolved?
You're taking it more seriously now.
I think from the beginning, my attitude was that we have to give this country, I know how bad it was.
All you have to do is look at what was going on in China.
It was devastation.
I'm not about bad news.
I want to give people hope.
I want to give people a feeling that we all have a chance.
It's a pretty simple answer.
It is the guy he is.
It is who Trump is.
It is the person who came in and made the economy as great as it was until this crisis.
It was because he injects animal spirits into business.
It's because he's a businessman.
It's because he knows how to do this stuff.
So we're seeing a news media that hears wrongly, and then it reports wrongly, and then it makes moral judgments on their wrong hearing and reporting.
So that's almost leftism in a nutshell, right?
I just want to play one more clip before I comment on this.
This is now Acosta talking about how the president gets it now because he's being, he's giving numbers.
He's saying this is the worst.
This is the worst time.
So let's cut 23.
I've never seen President Trump like this.
I know people might say, well, I can't ever trust him.
He's a phony and so on.
People may say that, but Anderson, I have to tell you, sitting in that room that close to him, I've never seen President Trump like this.
And I think to some extent he is scared right now, Anderson.
And we could all feel that in the room.
And I've been, you and I have been pretty critical of him from time to time.
This was a different Donald Trump tonight.
I think he gets it.
CNN sucks.
Jim Acosta, really, you know, I mean, I don't want to say what he should be doing because I don't want to insult some other profession.
You know, I don't want to say he should be just off the top of my head selling shoes because there are many, many good, competent shoe salesmen and we need them and they do a great job.
And I wouldn't want Jim Acosta doing that either.
But I mean, the guy, this is irrationalism.
It's fear-mongering.
It is basically putting forward a narrative.
I mean, this is the left in a nutshell, right?
They put forward a narrative.
And if you violate that narrative, they accuse you on the basis of the narrative.
So for instance, let me just give you an example.
There's a white candidate and a black candidate.
You make a judgment that the white candidate is more competent and you vote for him.
And they say, well, you're a bigot.
You know, you're against black people when you weren't even thinking about that.
They impose their narrative.
So their narrative is worst case scenario.
Everybody should be afraid.
Everybody should panic.
And we should act as if everything is worthy of panic.
And when the president injects hope, he says, I know it's bad.
Look, I mean, we all know it ain't good, right?
I mean, nobody's sitting around going, ah, nothing like a really bad virus to get you going in the morning.
Nobody's saying that.
So there is no person who's saying that.
But when he says, gives them the bad numbers, says this is the worst case scenario, then, oh, now he gets it.
Now he gets it.
It really is this kind of rolling, rolling dishonesty.
Now, the thing is, I don't want to play this down because the word from the front lines, the word from the hospitals is things are bad.
Doctors are scared.
Nurses are scared.
The disease, when it hits and when it's bad, is nasty.
It's a nasty disease.
But you have to have some kind of context, right?
In Sweden, for instance, and this is an important thing because people talk as if everything is only happening here, but everybody is shut down except Sweden.
Sweden has said, no, we're not going to shut down.
We're going to let the virus spread.
It's going to spread eventually anyway.
Let's let everybody get it and have it all happen now and not destroy our economy.
The doctors in Sweden are going absolutely bats.
They're going, so to speak, Wuhan bats, they're going.
And the doctors are saying, no, you're leading us into catastrophe.
We're going to find out.
We are going to find out because nobody knows.
Nobody has the numbers.
We don't have the number, for instance.
We don't know how many people are dying because we don't know how many people are infected.
So we can't divide the number of people dying into the number of people infected.
We don't know what the rate is, okay?
There's also the context of the fact that, you know, they say, look, flattening the curve is not going to stop people from dying.
They'll die eventually.
But 100% of people will die eventually.
So keeping them alive for a while is a good thing.
And of course, when you look at the people, about 1,800 people a day die of heart disease.
And a lot of that is caused by bad behavior, by obesity, by smoking, by things that people do that they should, by not exercising, things that people do.
We don't give the government the right to force them to do those things because we understand people make choices.
Eventually, people are going to have to make choices with this too.
I actually have been watching these briefings and I feel like, yeah, the government is probably doing the right thing for now, but it's going to have to let up eventually, right?
It's going to have to let up eventually.
The news media wants to keep this going.
And the news media, again, it's not just corruption.
It's also stupidity.
They also do not know what they're talking about or how to report the news.
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So here's the thing we're learning.
You know, Trump said yesterday, Trump had said earlier that this is just a flu.
Everyone at some point said this is just the flu.
And yesterday he said, no, it's not.
This is cut seven.
A lot of people have said, a lot of people have thought about it.
Write it out.
Don't do anything.
Just write it out and think of it as the flu.
But it's not the flu.
It's vicious.
When you send a friend to the hospital and you call up to find out, how is he doing?
It happened to me where he goes to the hospital, he says goodbye.
He's sort of a tough guy.
A little older, a little heavier than he'd like to be, frankly.
And you call up the next day, how's he doing?
And he's in a coma.
This is not the flu.
Yeah.
See, when it's bad, it's really bad.
And this is the thing.
You don't know.
And obviously, like I said, I think eventually young people are going to go back to work, then middle-aged people, then older people, then really old people, then people who are just like on their last legs.
And finally, when it's safe, I'll come out because I personally have to keep alive through this.
It's me.
So Joe Scarborough said this, and this is a meme that is now going around.
It's just become a drumbeat on the left.
Here's cut four.
Now, we've heard Zeke Emmanuel that nobody could have seen this coming.
The fact is everybody saw this coming.
Everybody saw this coming in early January.
That ain't true!
That's not true!
It's just not true.
The press didn't see it coming.
The Washington Post said, get a grip, America, the flu is a much bigger threat than coronavirus.
Everybody Saw This Coming 00:06:34
The New York Times, who says it's not safe to travel to China, the Daily Beast coronavirus with zero American fatalities is dominating headlines.
Well, the flu is the real threat.
Who else?
Vox did one.
We saw Nancy Pelosi saying, come to Chinatown.
And yeah, Trump, too, said, you know, we're going to take care of this.
But Scarborough didn't talk about it at all until I think it was, I think it was late January, maybe February, and he brought on an expert saying it's just the flu.
He had Bill de Blasio on in March saying everything was fine.
Let's play the de Blasio clip.
This is on Joe Scarborough's show.
Willie, 8.6 million people here.
We have 25 cases as of this morning.
And we care deeply about each of those individuals.
But against a backdrop of 8.6 million people, and for the vast majority of New Yorkers, life is going on pretty normally right now.
And we want to encourage that.
If you're under 50 and you're healthy, which is most New Yorkers, there's very little threat here.
This disease, even if it were to get it, basically acts like a common cold or flu.
So that's, you know, and you didn't hear Joe Scarborough like jump, you know, lowering himself down like a deisec mackino and saying, wait, wait, don't spread misinformation on my program.
No, because nobody knew.
You know who saw it coming?
Trump mentioned it in his State of the Union address.
He said, we're going to work with them.
The coronavirus is a threat.
That was on February 4th, right?
He saw that coming.
And you'll remember Nancy Pelosi tore up the speech.
Steve Mnuchin, okay, this was in the Wall Street Journal today.
This is January 23rd at a World Economic Forum dinner in Davos.
Remember where all the great minds and the elites meet to eat in Davos, Switzerland?
Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin spoke up.
It was 45 minutes into a conversation about climate change and trade.
And no one had mentioned the most important issue facing the world, he said, the deadly coronavirus spreading across China.
So think about that.
That's all the smart people in the world who think they're so elite and they really are going to do what's great for everybody and they know the best.
And they've been talking about globalism and climate change and all the things that really are not that great and don't really matter.
That's what they've been talking about.
And Steve Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary, Trump's Treasury Secretary, got up and said, hey, you know, what we really should be talking about is the coronavirus.
All the big brains.
Tom Cotton talked about it early on.
And, you know, Hugh Hewitt had this exchange with Mitch McConnell about Tom Cotton.
Listen to this.
Let me talk to you a little bit about Senator Cotton.
Politico yesterday recognized him as the first to the bell.
In your experience in the Senate, was Senator Cotton the first one to say, hey, leader, hey, Mitch, this is a deadly situation.
I do not trust the Chinese.
Was he first?
He was first.
I think Tom was right on the mark.
And it came up while we were tied down in the impeachment trial.
And I think it diverted the attention of the government because everything, every day was all about impeachment.
But Tom figured this out early, and he was absolutely right.
So now Trump says that's not true.
Play Cut 15.
We won't talk about that now.
Did it divert my attention?
I think I'm getting eight pluses for the way I handled myself during a phony impeachment.
Okay.
It was a hoax.
But certainly, I guess I thought of it.
And I think I probably acted.
I don't think I would have done any better had I not been impeached.
Okay.
And I think that's a great tribute to something.
Maybe it's a tribute to me.
I'm a very stable genius.
I love that.
It's a great tribute to something.
Maybe it's a tribute to me.
That's me.
Class Trump.
I love that.
You know, the TV movie, a TV miniseries called The Path to 9-11 by my friend Cyrus Nalasta was roundly attacked by the left.
It was one of the highest rated TV movies ever to show.
And one of the things that it showed, it showed a lot of people making a lot of mistakes that led up to the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9-11.
One of the mistakes was Bill Clinton had multiple chances to kill Osama bin Laden.
He had multiple chances.
All he had to do was say, take the shot.
And he didn't say it because he was so distracted by the Monica Lewinsky affair scandal.
And he was afraid he had no political capital to spend.
He was afraid if he made a mistake, it would destroy him.
And so he didn't do it.
The Clintons were so upset about this that they first forced, they've lobbied ABC, who were friends of Clinton, the Disney Corporation, friends of Clinton.
They lobbied them until they had to make cuts and cut some of the incidents out because there were a number of times he had the chance to kill Osama bin Laden, but was distracted.
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And even now, when Hillary Clinton is out of the ballgame, I don't know what has to happen.
Maybe they have to die before they will release the path to 9-11, which shows that Clinton did not take a shot at bin Laden because he was so distracted by the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
The Monica Lewinsky scandal was Bill Clinton's fault, right?
He was the one who was banging the intern in the Oval Office in the people's house when he should have been working, okay?
So that was his fault that there was a scandal about that.
In terms of the impeachment, I mean, it was a hoax.
There was no collusion with Russia.
And they knew it early on and they took us through three years almost of absolute nonsense.
And these things have consequences.
I'm not saying that Trump would have done a better job with this if he hadn't been distracted, but it doesn't.
You know, there is always a potential crisis happening.
There's always a potential crisis happening.
And the president has to be able to pay attention to that.
And when they impeach you over a phone call you made about the president to the president of the Ukraine, which is nothing, when they spy on you for this Russian hoax, you know, now more than two dozen Federal Bureau of Investigation applications to monitor Americans suspected of having listed to foreign intelligence or terrorism had errors in their files.
A Justice Department watchdog said.
That's from the Wall Street Journal.
In other words, they have found that a lot of these FISA warrants are faulty.
Of course, the government abuses its power when it has them.
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I just want to play one final thing.
Fauci says that Trump handled this as quickly as he could.
And he also says, well, I won't play it because I'm running out of time, but he also says that the curve is dropping.
The number of cases, the rate of increase of the number of cases is dropping.
That is a hopeful sign.
We're looking at two bad weeks, I think.
No matter what the computer models say, that obviously is going to be bad.
We don't know how bad.
You know, don't let the press make you hysterical about it.
We don't know how bad it is.
But this is it.
This is the peak that we're going to see.
And hopefully, as it goes down, Trump, a businessman, is going to let people start to go back to work.
I think that has to happen.
But always remember, even when you go back to work, save the Clavin.
That's the most important thing you have to do.
All right.
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Wait a minute.
Who was that?
Was that actually Lindsay?
From Chuck.
Hey, Drew, with all of this coronavirus going on, I have noticed that I've had a certain amount of anxiety that gets to me at times.
Chuck, that's just you.
That's not happening to anybody else.
What's wrong with you?
No, I'm kidding.
Of course, it's happening to everybody.
I have experienced this in the past and was able to get over it pretty easily, but it has continued to weigh on me for the past few days as new information comes out.
I was wondering if you had any advice on how to deal with this while we wait to see how all of this turns out.
Love your show.
Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Save the Claven.
That's the most important thing.
Yes, of course, Chuck, this is, I'm kidding you.
Obviously, this is happening to everybody.
Everybody's anxious.
Everybody is worried.
All the news coming out and all this stuff.
So yeah, let me tell you about this.
This is important.
It's important to know how to manage anxiety in every situation and certainly in a crisis.
And, you know, there's a line in the Bible.
I'm going to quote it from memory, so I'll get it wrong.
But the line is, who by worrying can add even a minute to your life?
It's something like that.
In other words, you can't make your life any longer by worrying.
It's deep wisdom because the important thing to remember about worrying is something that is happening in you.
It is a physical thing that is happening in you.
It has no effect on the outside world.
It doesn't mean worse things will happen.
It doesn't mean better things will happen.
It's not holding up the sky.
It's not breaking down the sky.
It's not doing anything.
It is just physical chemicals happening in you.
It is an emotion that you are having that may or may not have anything to do with the world outside you.
Not one, you're not going to live a minute longer.
You're not going to live a minute shorter.
You're just going to be worried.
That's the only thing.
So if it's in you, you can deal with it from within.
And if it's physical, you can deal with it by physical means.
It is scientifically shown that deep breathing and learning how to breathe will help you with anxiety.
This is absolutely true.
It is also true.
I mean, so, you know, that's the thing you can learn on any meditation site, on any breathing site, how you breathe.
It affects your heart rate.
It affects everything.
And you can breathe out anxieties.
While you're doing that, you can meditate.
You can use meditation to control, to take things in and then let them out.
Let those worries out.
Let them go.
Let go of them.
I've had a sponsor, the Abide app for Christian meditation, which I find has been really, really helpful, really good.
Just even before this, I thought it was a really terrific thing.
I'm not just giving them a free ad.
I really liked it.
But yeah, you know, meditation, breathing especially, exercise will help you bring down anxiety.
Do not forget to exercise.
I know you may be locked up, but hopefully there's a place where you can take a walk.
Hopefully you have a machine.
Even if you don't have a machine, there are all kinds of apps that will give you exercises that you can do.
So exercise, breathe, and remember, this is a thing happening in you.
It is not a reflection of the outside world.
It has nothing to do with the outside world.
It is happening inside you and it's not going to change anything.
So you might as well get rid of it.
You know, people hold on to their anxiety because they think it's holding things together.
They think if I'm not worried, something bad will happen.
If I don't, you know, this is one of the most ancient superstitions on earth.
It is one of the most ancient superstitions in the human race that you have to worry to keep things from happening, right?
Not true.
Things will happen whether you worry or not.
So let it go.
All right.
From Sean, dear Lord Claven, I'm 26 years old.
I graduated university two years ago and I have a mild motivation problem I was hoping you could help me with.
And by mild, I mean it's absolutely crippling.
To put it bluntly, I have none, no motivation.
I want to do nothing but more of an abstract form of nothing because sitting around on the couch all day isn't appealing either.
I seem to want to press pause on life and bring the space continuing to a halt.
Every time I've been able to make an effort towards moving my life forward, I find a way to not follow through.
I've been torn for a few years between joining the police academy and attending law school.
I have interest in both fields.
However, when I decided to join the academy, I dropped out two days before it started.
When I decided to go to law school, I took a total of three LSAT prep classes and didn't study during any of them.
I'm not depressed or suicidal.
I very much enjoy life and I don't hate myself.
Be that as it may, it's clear my natural inclination to be a lazy bum has dug its claws in so deep to me that any attempt to move my life forward gets self-sabotage.
All right.
You're obviously, I read a lot of that because I wanted people to see that you're obviously a very intelligent, witty, charming person, and you are using that intelligence and wit and charm to charm yourself into a lie.
The idea that you're not depressed is nonsense.
Of course you are.
You are probably a victim of some sort of trauma and that is what's affecting you and you're using your wit and your intelligence and your charm to minimize that.
I'll take a guess.
This is a total guess.
Never met you.
All I know is what I just read.
Maybe you were bullied as a kid.
Maybe your father was an alcoholic.
Maybe your parents got divorced.
Those are three possible, just possibilities.
If any of those three things are true, you're a trauma victim.
Okay.
And one of the things about being a trauma victim is that trauma, especially if you've been bullied or something like that, or if your father was unpredictable, you are afraid to show any weakness and you disdain weakness and you're afraid to lose.
If you lose, you know, when I was a kid, I got in a lot of fights with people who were bigger than me.
And I was afraid to wrestle in gym because I was afraid if I lost, they would see that I was weak and they could get me.
And that was ridiculous because I was a good wrestler, right?
But it always made me nervous to do it because you don't want to lose.
If you've been bullied, you don't want to lose.
You cannot face your own weakness.
You can't face your own helplessness.
You can't face your own fear.
You hate yourself for being like that.
I'm just, I'm not saying this is you.
I'm just saying these are things that happen to people who've been traumatized.
And so you don't want to try to do anything.
You don't want to try to do anything because if you fail, then the pain of failure is just going to be too great.
And that's what it sounds like.
Something like that is what's bothering you when you decide to go to law school and you don't study or when you decide to join the academy and you drop out right before.
When you, like I said, you're a charming, intelligent guy.
I can tell from your letter.
And you're using that charm and that intelligence to minimize something that has happened to you and it's bothering you.
Here's what you do.
Figure out what it is, face it.
Either get help for it, go to a therapist and get help for it.
Or maybe just by facing it, you can wrestle with it yourself.
But you need help because you don't want to waste your life.
Life does end.
Life has a beginning, middle, and an end.
You don't want to get to be my age and find that you haven't done all the things that you do.
It is very satisfying, trust me on this at my age, to look back and think, yeah, I kind of did what I set out to do.
And now I'm playing with the house's money.
You don't want to reach my age and suddenly think, oh, I didn't do anything because I was being so smart and charming.
I didn't deal with the problems that I have.
Little honest talk for you.
All right.
From Patrick, dear Lord Clavin of the multiverse, I binge-watched Tiger King on Netflix last weekend and I thought it raised some interesting questions about owning exotic animals.
Do you think private citizens have the right to own exotic animals like lions or tigers as they do with regular pets?
Or should the government regulate it for the sake of protecting endangered species?
Also, if you could own an exotic animal yourself, what would it be?
That's all this.
I see.
They've got my Tiger King outfit on.
I appreciate that.
I look great with that hair.
First of all, I have not yet seen Tiger King.
I have watched the trailer because it is incredibly funny.
Of course, you shouldn't own exotic animals like lions and tigers.
Don't be stupid.
It's stupid to do that.
They eat people.
They look at you and they see lunch.
They're not your friends.
They're not your pals.
And what people do is they get them when they're babies and suddenly they throw them away or kill them.
And of course it's cruel and of course it shouldn't be done.
They should live in the wild.
I don't even believe in zoos anymore.
Zoos made sense when nobody had seen these things, when we didn't have cameras.
I don't think we should be putting animals in cages unless it's to study them and then we should set them free.
So I think animals get a bad deal from us.
I think we should leave them alone, put them out in their beautiful preserves that they have in Africa where they can roam free and have the lives they're supposed to live.
They just think your lunch.
They don't like you.
They don't know you.
If they get hungry, they will eat you.
That's true of your dog, too.
But dogs at least have been bred to be homegrown.
If I could own an exotic animal, what would it be?
You know, I'd probably have Knolls around to make me coffee and sandwiches.
Is he exotic?
I don't know.
That's like, I'm not sure he'd be worth owning all that much.
All right.
Dear Mr. Claven, my girlfriend and I keep debating.
Would you take that picture of me debating over who is saved in terms of salvation in the Christian faith?
She insists that non-Christians, even those who never had the opportunity to know Jesus, will be cast into hell.
Well, I believe that people who are not within the Christian faith still have a chance to be saved.
I will admit that I'm biased because I come from a secular family.
I don't want to bear the thought of my family burning in hell for all eternity.
Any insight you can provide on this would be greatly appreciated.
Okay.
Point number one, what you think, what I think, what your girlfriend thinks, you don't get a vote.
We don't get a vote.
We get zero votes, right?
We get zero votes.
Anything we're saying is absolutely random nonsense.
It means absolutely nothing.
There is only one vote, one big vote, one big vote on who is damned and who is saved.
And we have no idea.
We do not know.
We know from the gospels, it tells us, from the Bible, it tells us that you can only be saved through Jesus, but we don't know who can be saved through Jesus or how that happens or whether Jesus will save those who don't know his name or who don't follow him.
We know that when they talk about Jesus' name, they don't just mean the name Jesus.
They mean the character of Jesus, the being of Jesus.
When Jesus says to pray in my name, he doesn't mean to say, in Jesus' name I pray, which a lot of people do.
What he means is to pray like the best example I ever heard was stop in the name of the law.
That doesn't mean stop because I said the word law.
That means to stop because I have the authority of the law behind me.
And so when you pray in the name of Jesus, it means to pray in the character of Jesus.
And so you don't know.
I'm on your side in this.
I believe that those who don't believe can be saved.
I believe you can live in Christ without knowing that you live in Christ, without knowing that that's what you're doing.
But I don't get a vote either.
And so stop worrying about it and worry about what you can do.
All right, from Nancy.
Dear Andrew, I subscribe solely so I could ask you this question.
What are the first two syllables of the Hunky Dunky song, this theme song?
By the way, is that you singing it?
I think so.
It is me singing it.
I think I may be auto-tuned a little bit, but it is me singing it with some of the other Daily Wire staff backing me up.
The first two syllables are, I feel.
I feel hunky-dunky.
Life is tickety-boo.
I feel hunky-dunky.
Yeah, I don't know why you couldn't hear that.
All right.
I've got time for one more from Katie.
I love hearing you sing the praises of motherhood and the joys of a mother raising her children at home.
I don't hear many people proclaim that like you do, even in the conservative Southeast.
My younger brother and his wife live in San Francisco and have a five-month-old baby girl.
My sister-in-law had four months of maternity leave and returned briefly to work before being allowed to work from home during the current shutdown, but they're still using their nanny.
My sister-in-law is such a natural mother, and I think it was difficult for her to return to work.
They live in a crazy bubble where young couples don't even consider the mom staying home.
That is a real problem, and that is the left's fault.
They did that.
They created that bubble.
I'm betting they couldn't live where they are on my brother's salary, but it breaks my heart to think of my niece missing out on her mother for most of her waking hours and for my sister-in-law to miss out on those precious baby days that are gone.
So quickly, the question, skipping over the question is, should I talk to them about it?
Should I give them advice?
Should I send them an article?
You're afraid, she's afraid that she'll irritate her brother and sister.
And yeah, you shouldn't do that.
That's not what you should do.
If you are in communications with them, especially your sister-in-law, listen to her.
Don't talk to her.
Women in the Workforce Bubble 00:02:57
Listen to her.
Hear what she has to say.
Ask her how things are going.
If she brings this up, if she brings this up, you can ask questions about it.
You know, if she says, wow, I wish I didn't have to go back to work.
You know, you can say, have you considered not going back to work?
But if you just try, you know, you can get, you have no power to change her mind.
You have no power to convince her.
Trying to convince her will make you feel good, but it won't do anything for her.
But talking to her may help her understand better how she feels.
And if she has no one to whom she can say those words, you being that person would be helpful.
If she doesn't say them, don't draw them out of her.
Just listen to her.
Listen to what she says.
And by asking questions, maybe you'll find that you have brought her to a place, that she has found the place inside her where she will do what she wants to do.
But don't set out to convince her.
Just set out to be her friend and listen to her and hear what she has to say.
Maybe she feels she wants to stay home, but she can't.
You have to let her live with that as well.
And I completely agree with you.
I think people, pardon me, I think women have been talked into the worst possible choices.
I think they've been talked out of their femininity.
I think they've been talked out of their own values.
I think they've been told that everybody should be, that you're not successful unless you're a man and you should feel bad about yourself if you don't behave like a man.
I cannot believe the stupidity of that.
I cannot believe that women fell for it.
I know why men fell for it because it makes life easier for them, but I think it's ridiculous.
If feminism were about elevating female values so that they weren't disdained as they have been at times in the past, I would be a feminist.
I'm not a feminist because it's not about that.
It's about women being like men, which I just think is bad for the world, bad for women, bad for men, bad for everyone.
I got to stop there, but I will be back again tomorrow.
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