Andrew Clavin mocks Elizabeth Warren’s satirical "gender identity" speech and CNN’s performative tolerance stunts while accusing Democrats of weaponizing Trump’s impeachment to hide Hunter Biden’s corruption, citing Schiff’s closed-door tactics. Michael Durand argues U.S. Syria withdrawal was justified—Turkey’s Kurdish crackdown was inevitable, ISIS resurgence exaggerated, and Iran poses a far greater threat than radical Islam. Clavin then skewers progressive identity politics, from CNN’s trans activist interruptions to Buttigieg’s "gay enough" apology, framing it as divisive performativism. The episode ends with a defense of Columbus against genocide claims and a dismissal of progressive historical revisionism, tying it all to a broader critique of power-driven ideological enforcement. [Automatically generated summary]
Democrat presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren is now saying she was fired from her first job by genocidal white males who didn't want a pregnant transgender homosexual to bring another Native American into the world.
At a speech before the National Association of Outrageous Panderers, Warren said, quote, In those days, people just assumed if you were married and pregnant, you must be a woman.
And so at first, my employers were happy for me and threw me a big party where I was given many presents, including a plush solar system mobile that spun around to the tune of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.
But when I announced that I identified as a man and was only sleeping with my husband because I was homosexual, the work atmosphere began to darken.
Then when I went to my employers and explained that my child would be Native American and that therefore they had to turn over their houses to him because the white man had burned the village where my mama and pawpa had their teepee, their whole attitude changed.
I began to suspect I was a victim of discrimination when two security guards grabbed me under the arms and carried me off the premises, throwing the solar system mobile after me so that I lay sprawled in the parking lot, tangled up in plush toy planets, playing a tinkly tune.
That's the way men of color with vaginas used to be treated in this country.
So I dedicated my life to bringing about change for spectacularly privileged white women who chose to stay home with their children while their husbands supported them and then gained their ways into elite universities by pretending to be oppressed minorities.
And today, it's possible one of them could become president.
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Unquote.
CNN responded to Warren's speech by staging a 17-hour town hall celebrating mentally ill parents who dress their white six-year-old sons as Indian women so the boys can grow up to be tolerant adults who hang themselves.
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You have got to hand it to the Democrats.
They learned from their mistakes.
They tried to accuse the president of the sort of Russian election collusion Hillary Clinton actually committed.
But even though the media backed them every step of the way, we could all see it was a hoax and Trump was innocent.
They tried to destroy Brett Kavanaugh with completely unsubstantiated sex charges.
But even though the media threw away every journalistic standard to make the charges stick, we could all see there was zero evidence and the Republicans found the spine to face the liars down.
So now, as DOJ investigators seem to be ready to expose Barack Obama's misuse of intelligence agencies to spy on opposition candidate Trump, and as the media and their Democrats are desperate to cover those revelations up, here they go again.
And this time, they think they've got the process fixed.
See, with the Russia hoax and the Kavanaugh character assassination, they had anonymous anti-Trump and anti-Kavanaugh sources whispering semi-truths and falsehoods to the press.
That was good.
They had women making up totally unbelievable stories about being raped by Kavanaugh.
That was good.
They had a press dutifully repeating any anti-Trump or anti-Kavanaugh fantasy as if it were completely believable.
Excellent.
They had the original ObamaGate conspirators like James Comey, James Clapper, and John Brennan bloviating about Trump committing treason and being a Russian spy.
Very, very nice.
They even had women coming forward to tell stories about how they'd once been molested by someone totally other than Kavanaugh, as if that were evidence against Kavanaugh.
What could be better?
So what went wrong?
They had it all.
Oh yeah, us.
We could see they were lying.
We could see the press was acting as a Democrat anti-Trump ventriloquist dummy.
We could see the whole thing was a shameful attempt at a coup that posed a greater threat to our republic and its democratic systems than anything the president has ever thought about doing.
So they fixed it.
This time, we won't see.
This time, their so-called impeachment inquiry will take place behind closed doors.
They'll leak those parts.
They want the press to report and the press will report them.
And that way, they'll remove the big problem.
Us.
Openness.
The truth.
They'll remove all those from the process altogether.
Here's McCarthyite Congressman Adam Schiff explaining this dirty deal away.
There's a reason why investigations and grand jury proceedings, for example, and I think this is analogous to a grand jury proceeding, are done out of the public view initially.
Now, we may very well call some of the same witnesses or all the same witnesses in public hearings as well.
But we want to make sure that we meet the needs of the investigation and not give the president or his legal minions the opportunity to tailor their testimony and in some cases fabricate testimony to suit their interests.
Yeah, Smeagol.
It's like a grand jury, he says.
It's analogous to a grand jury, which is a criminal investigation and therefore secret, as opposed to an impeachment, which is a political process and should therefore be right out in the open for all of us to see.
And oh, those Trump legal minions he's talking about, those are the president's lawyers.
How'd you like it if you were charged with something, but we're not allowed to hire your legal minions?
Oh, and by the way, if Trump should try to fight back by speaking directly to we the people, by pointing out, say, that Joe Biden's son, Hunter, and his possibly corrupt dealings with foreign governments may be the real problem, they've got that covered too.
Here's make-believe journalist Chuck Todd explaining it all.
The president went further than he's ever gone before.
So we're going to further, we are going further than we've ever gone before to say we aren't going to play the sound.
We aren't going to repeat the president's vicious attacks on Hunter Biden.
The president of the United States stood in front of a crowd of supporters and character assassinated a man.
Whatever you might think of his decisions, he's not a public figure.
He isn't running for office.
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He's not even on the campaign trail.
And he isn't in any way asking for this attention, obviously.
Look, we are going to tell you that the president's attack on Hunter Biden is remarkable and it's newsworthy.
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So we're going to explain to you that the president is a bad person, Orange Man bad, but when he actually says something, they're not going to let you see it.
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So last week, when Trump pulled our soldiers back from the Turkish border in Syria, I said I thought he had made a mistake.
I'm afraid that ISIS will rise again.
I'm afraid that the Russians will move in.
I'm afraid that Turkey will mistreat our former Kurdish allies.
All those things are happening.
And now Trump has announced a full U.S. withdrawal from Syria.
So I've decided to bring on Michael Durand to explain why all of this is absolutely great.
Michael is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.
He specializes in Middle East security issues.
He was part of the George W. Bush administration serving in the White House as senior director in the National Security Council.
He is also just a smart guy who wrote a terrific piece for the Wall Street Journal explaining why you think our beleaguered and attacked president is actually doing the right thing.
How you doing, Mike?
It's good to see you.
I'm doing well, thanks.
Good to see you.
Well, thank you for coming on.
Explain the theory of why Trump is doing what's right.
Well, the key, I think, to understand here is that we have been postured for failure in Syria from the beginning because we aligned with a splinter group, an extremist splinter element of a minority group in Syria.
That is, we aligned with the PKK, who are Kurdish separatists in Turkey.
And this is the Syrian extension of them.
They call themselves the YPG, but the YPG is the Syrian offshoot of the PKK.
So when Erdoyan says we are supporting people who are supporting terrorism within his country, he is right.
He's 100% correct.
And we have, we papered over this.
And by the way, we knew this too, but we did a kind of rebranding of the YPG to call it the Syrian Democratic Forces.
But we knew exactly what we were doing.
But we thought that since it's the other side of the border and since we're there, the Turks will be okay with it or they'll make their peace with it.
Well, they've been seething about this from the very beginning.
They've been saying don't do it.
And it's not just that we went in with this little splinter organization.
We actually built it up beyond its wildest dreams.
So it's taken over much, not just the Kurdish territories in northern Syria, but a much larger swath of territory.
So when the Turks look down at Syria now, they see a Kurdish separatist statelet allied with the Kurds who want to separate, who want to partition Turkey between Turks and Kurds.
And now it has international legitimacy and it has the support of the United States, Turkey's the greatest power on earth and Turkey's closest ally.
So it's crazy.
All right.
So he pulls out.
Turkey goes in and they're killing some of these Kurds.
And some of the ISIS fighters that the Kurds were apparently guarding have escaped.
Not a lot of, I mean, hundreds of them, but not thousands of them that are there.
Are we not afraid that ISIS is going to rise up again?
I mean, isn't that why we allied with the Kurds in the first place?
Well, first of all, I'm skeptical of all these reports.
I'm not saying that I know different and no better, but there's an enormous amount of propaganda flying around out there.
The one thing we do know is that there isn't the kind of slaughter going on that we expected.
Obviously, some people have died and some people have died in horrifically.
There's no doubt about that.
But it isn't, you know, we don't have the Turks besieging civilian populations and shooting indiscriminately into them or anything like that at all.
As for the ISIS prisoners, I don't know what's going on with them, but I think that you may have saw the president himself tweeted and said, well, actually, the YPG might be saying that the ISIS prisoners have gotten out in order to bring us back in and to get support from us.
One of the things about the YPG is that it is, historically, it has been aligned with the Iranians and Assad, and it has continued to have contacts with them, close contacts with them, including giving the Assad forces a place in Qamishli.
It's a town in the east.
The Syrian regime runs airplanes from Damascus to Qamishli all the time, and then he uses that to hold positions in the east of the country.
So they're playing both sides here.
Okay, but if the caliphate, the ISIS caliphate, reemerges as it did when Obama pulled out and Lindsey Graham was going crazy and Lindsey Graham is going a little crazy now.
Will you then say, oh, this was a mistake?
Or will you say, well, we just have to go back in?
No, I will say that I would start from the position that we were postured incorrectly from the beginning, that this was, it was inevitable that the Turks were going to go in.
This intervention by Turkey is the most predictable event that I have ever seen in my life.
And I predicted it 18 months ago.
So to set ourselves up like that so that we are building up the sworn enemy of the Turks was a losing position to begin with.
So we have to stabilize northern Syria through our ally, Turkey.
That is the right way to do it.
So if a problem arises after this, we should solve it in coordination with the Turks.
So Turkey is our ally.
They're part of NATO in theory, but we don't like them much.
I mean, Erdogan is kind of a thug.
And if they're beheading people in Syria, it's not really the way NATO people are supposed to act.
I mean, they're not supposed to go in and behead people.
Look, look, this is war, and people do nasty things in war.
Americans do nasty things in war.
I don't want to justify what the Turks are doing, but this is an operation by and large by a disciplined military.
And, you know, Erdogan has some nasty sides for sure.
But my standards, I study the Middle East.
By Middle Eastern standards, he is as good as it gets.
So we go through these moral panics every couple of years.
There were protests in Egypt and we went into a moral panic.
Mubarak has to go.
Mubarak is a thug.
Mubarak is a dictator.
Can anyone seriously look at Egypt today and say that the regime that Egypt today is more democratic?
Are there fewer people in dungeons in Egypt as a result of the regime change policy that we carried out, which ended up having a lot of turmoil in Egypt, and a lot of people died?
So I think we have to take a deep breath and we have to work with what actually exists there.
And by Middle Eastern standards, Turkey is fantastic.
So what about the Russians?
I mean, Trump actually said, let the Russians deal with it.
Now the Kurds say, well, we're making deals with the Russians.
So now Erdogan has the Russians and the Kurds on his border, as opposed to us.
That sounds kind of dangerous.
No, this is what I'm worried about.
We have so alienated the Turks by building up the PKK on their border that they are now thinking about kind of switching sides and moving into the Russian orbit and solving their security problems in Syria in coordination with the Russians rather than with the Americans.
See, what we want to be is the trusted interlocutor with the Turks about their security problem, and we want them to solve their security problems under our umbrella and not under the Russian umbrella.
And what they seem to be thinking about now, they have basically just kicked us out.
You know, they argued with us about this PKK thing for years.
We didn't listen, and they said to hell with it, and they've kicked us out.
And now they're going to move, and they're going to start talking much more closely with the regime and the Russians.
I think this is very bad for us.
Trump is talking about dropping enormous sanctions on the Turks.
Now, maybe it will go exactly like everyone is dreaming, and we'll sanction the Turks.
And Erdogan will say, Uncle, you were right, I was wrong, and please forgive me.
But he has other options.
He might say, I'm going to team up with the Russians and the Iranians, and I'm going to drive you out of the Middle East.
All these guys who are going around saying Turkey's not an ally, Turkey's not an ally, they have not seen a hostile Turkey.
Strategic Threat: Resurgent ISIS00:06:27
Turkey is a powerful country, and it's a real country, unlike Iraq and Syria.
It has a sense of itself, of national purpose.
The majority, the vast majority of Turks are behind Erdogan in this.
Now, he has an approval rating in general of about 40%, but he has an overwhelming support of his population for this operation.
I think we should tread very carefully.
So your vision is that we team with Erdogan or with the Turks to fight a resurgent ISIS in Syria.
That's your idea of how we should do this?
If there is a resurgent ISIS, I mean, this is, to me, this is a, look, we had our military operators that were in there, these thousand guys, these are special forces guys.
They went in there under a theory of American foreign policy that our primary goal in the region is to fight radical Islam.
That became America's number one strategic goal.
I have never agreed with that.
I think our number one strategic goal is to contain Iran.
This is a country that's about to get a nuclear bomb that is spreading militias all over the region and arming them with precision drones and missiles.
That is a real strategic threat that we have to deal with.
20,000 nasty guys with pickup trucks.
They're very ugly.
But a serious military like the United States, if it has to, can go in and take care of that problem relatively easily.
Now, we didn't want to send guys in, so that's why we went up with the PKK.
But I don't see that as a great strategic problem.
The most important thing is to get ourselves postured so that we can actually take care of our serious, our serious rival in the region, which is Iran.
Wow, I really have to meditate on that.
That's a pretty big difference between the way, even the way the argument is going on either side.
Obviously, the argument is political, but you're saying something really different, but obviously very informed.
What do you think is going to happen now?
From where we are.
It all depends on whether we drop these massive sanctions.
The president is talking about shutting down the Turkish economy.
And there's this great, we're in a moral panic again right now.
I mean, Lindsey Graham and Nancy Pelosi are having kumbaya over sanctioning Turkey.
And this doesn't make any sense to me because what are we going to ask of them?
That they just be nicer to us, that they get out of Syria?
If they get out of Syria, then what are we going to put in place there?
I don't see anyone thinking through what's the overarching goal, what's the next step, and what happens if we lose, if we seriously lose Turkey.
I mean, we have military bases there.
We have intelligence platforms.
We have the ability to stop the Russians through the Bosporus if we want.
We have Black Sea security.
This is a big country on the border between Asia and Europe.
And it's been our ally for so long, we forgot why it's so important to have it.
I got to let you go in a minute, but I just want to ask you, do you think Trump is thinking about any of this?
I do.
I do think I see lots of signs that he's thinking about this.
I don't think he's done a particularly good job of conveying to the public what's at stake here and what the larger strategic issues are.
And I think some other elements in the government have really fallen down here.
I think, for example, the military.
You would expect the military to think about the kinds of things that I'm talking about.
And to ditch a relationship that we've had since the early 1950s.
The Turks fought with us in Korea.
They fought with us in Afghanistan.
In Bosnia, they're with us in Afghanistan now.
To ditch a relationship with a major state like this, a stable state in this region that's so unstable.
This is Europe's border with the Middle East.
To ditch a relationship with that state in order to have a relationship with a splinter extremist group of Kurds who couldn't even stand up to the Turkish army for a day.
Does this, like, from a strategic point of view, does this make any sense?
I understand the humanitarian concerns that people have, but we should solve those humanitarian concerns within a framework of working with the Turks, not working with these guys, who, by the way, are not Democrats either.
I mean, they are total control over the Kurdish area, and they have driven out into Turkey Kurds who are not PKK.
Mike, I got to go, but that was really interesting.
I hope you'll come back and talk about this more as the situation develops.
I really appreciate it.
Nothing I love more.
And it's great to be on the show.
All right.
Thanks a lot, Mike.
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Well, you know, that was so interesting that I'm not even going to comment on it because I've got to think about it before I have anything to say.
He was taking a very different tack, a very realist tack about aligning with Turkey, getting rid of, we always know those, he's absolutely right about these moral panics about the strong men in the Middle East.
I always say if Abraham Lincoln were in the Middle East, we'd support him, but he ain't there.
Play the Game That's On the Board00:09:44
We got to take the people, play the game that we're dealt.
Personally, even when I was, even if you take my point of view, that Trump made a mistake pulling out because now ISIS is going to arise again.
The mistake he made, if I'm right, is the same mistake the Never Trumpers made when they didn't vote for him, which is that he played the game he wanted to play instead of the game that's there.
You got to play the game that's on the board.
That's all he got.
And I think that that's the mistake Never Trumpers made when they played some fantasy principle game in their head instead of the game we had, which was an election between two people, one of whom was better than the other.
You know, I'm going to bring Knowles on in a couple of minutes and talk about the gay town hall on CNN, which was one of the, you know, somebody, who was it in the Wall Street Journal today, it was Bobby Jindal, wrote an op-ed saying basically that Trump has won every Democrat debate and the Republicans should pay for finance the Democrat debates because they're the best thing about him because no matter how much you dislike Trump or whether you dislike Trump,
you look at what the Democrats are actually proposing, breaking the bank, giving buddy stuff for free, taxing the wealthy, which is a disastrous thing to do.
I know it always sounds good.
It sounds great to Tao.
We're going to have a wealth tax.
We're going to have a wealth tax.
But it's not like, you know, wealthy people don't sit around with like their money in the bathtub and bathe in it.
I do that.
But really wealthy people do not just sit around and bathe in their money.
They actually invest it.
They do things with it.
And that's the money that creates the jobs, that creates the businesses, that creates the innovation.
And if you take that money out, where does it go?
It goes to Elizabeth Warren or it goes to Nancy Pelosi or it goes to AOC who haven't got the foggiest notion what to do with it.
They're sitting around worrying AOC is crying because she can't have a baby because the world is going to end because of climate change.
These people are out of their minds.
They have no idea what to do with money.
The money could be used for creating new things that will make more money for other people.
You know, cures for cancer make money for people.
That's a good profitable business to be in.
New innovations like iPhones make money, and that's the money that they want to take away when they tax things.
So now they have this gay town hall.
It just was a disaster.
I mean, just to give you a good, it was a while ago, so I don't want to play too much of it, but I do want to play this one minute when this woman, woman, is a guy who says he's a woman, who called himself Blossom Brown, steals the microphone from somebody asking a scripted question and starts screaming that CNN is killing transgender people.
Let me tell you something.
Black trans women are being killed in this country.
And CNN, you have erased black trans women for the last time.
Let me tell you something.
Black trans women are dying.
Our lives matter.
I'm an extraordinary black trans woman and I deserve to be here.
My black trans sisters that are here.
I am tired.
I am so tired.
I'm just sitting there.
And it's not just my black trans women, man.
It's my black trans brothers, too.
And I'm going to say what I'm going to say.
I'm going to say what I'm going to say.
No, I don't like you.
Come here.
No, no, I just want to ask you something.
Come here.
Tell me.
Come here.
I want you to talk.
What's your name?
I'm Blossom C. Bryant.
Blossom, let me ask you.
Superman.
Blossom.
Please spook me.
Blossom, thank you.
Let me tell you something.
No, don't come on the stage.
Don't come on the stage.
May I have the mic?
Go ahead.
May I have the mic?
Blossom.
So if I were a serious activist for the black community who actually cared about the black community, I would be asking why there's no town hall for the children in Chicago where people are being shot.
I think it's hundreds of people have been shot this year.
And this person is talking about, I guess, the 20 black trans people who have been killed.
And we don't even know if they were killed in hate crimes.
We don't know if that's the reason.
This is the whole problem with identity politics is it focuses everything on the wrong things all the time.
I mean, I think of Tanahisi Coates, this guy who gets all these awards and prizes for writing that we need to have reparations for black people.
And I thought, is Tanehisi Coates ever wonder why white people are giving him awards for that?
Because reparations makes white elites feel great, but it doesn't do a damn thing to make black children more competitive with white elite children.
It doesn't do a damn thing for that.
It's not going to change that equation in any way, shape, or form.
So for white elites, it's a win-win.
You know, they get to feel guilty without doing any kind of penance.
And it's not going to hurt their kids in the job market when black kids get an actual education and are not being shot at and actually rise up and become competitive in the marketplace.
So it's like that's why they give Tanahisi Coates money because identity politics takes your attention away from the things that are real.
And I just want to show you, well, there's so much to show you, but I want to bring Knowles on to talk about it.
But let's just take one look at Pete Buttigeg apologizing for being gay, but not gay enough.
I'm very mindful of the fact that my experience as a gay man, but as a white cisgender gay man, means that there are dimensions, for example, of what it's like to be a black trans woman that I do not personally understand.
But I also think the diversity within the LGBTQ plus community is part of what we have to offer right now.
Our community, our country, is so torn apart.
We're so fragmented.
And here we have the LGBTQ plus world that is everywhere.
We are in every state, every community.
Whether folks realize it or not, we're in every family.
And that means we can also have the power to build bridges.
So does this strike you like the Democrats have built bridges?
Does it strike you that they're bringing people together?
Does it strike you that we're all at each other's throats because of this identity politics?
The thing about progressivism is it has to progress.
So you're never woke enough.
There's absolutely no reward for being woke because they're progressing.
So you didn't progress.
So three seconds later, whatever you're saying, you got to apologize for.
A year ago, Pete Buttigeg was a minority.
He was a poor, abused gay guy.
And now he's got to apologize because he's cisgender.
He's not gay enough.
I mean, that is the way this progressivism always works.
And it privileges the young.
So it privileges the most ignorant, stupid, foolish people among us, the young who don't know anything, who haven't lived, who don't have the experience.
They're always going to be more progressive.
They're always going to progress beyond the older people.
So the older people always have to listen to the young, which is always a mistake.
Finally, got to apply one more, which is Beto O'Rourke, who promised he's going to destroy religion wherever it does not kowtow to homosexuals.
There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone or any institution, any organization in America that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us.
And so as president, we're going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.
When did this guy transform himself from this floppy-haired buffoon into a fascist?
He hates the Second Amendment.
He's going to steal your guns.
He hates the First Amendment.
You can't practice your religion.
Sorry, you can't practice your religion unless it's his religion.
Even Pete Buttigieg said he didn't think Beto O'Rourke had thought what he was saying through.
Anyway, all I can tell you is, I don't care how people live.
I truly don't.
I don't care if you wear a dress.
I do care if you tell me what pronoun I have to use.
I do care if you tell me what I have to think, what I have to speak.
See, this is the thing.
Your freedom depends on my freedom.
My freedom depends on yours.
So go ahead, commit sodomy, but don't tell me I can't pray where I want to pray.
Go ahead, pretend you're a girl, but don't tell me I have to believe the pretense, because that is utterly ridiculous.
All right, I got to stop here.
We got to talk about Zip Recruiter.
You know, I know some of you have been receiving Knowles' face because he's been leaning into the Xerox machine.
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Those Xeroxes of my thanks were a gift.
And all I needed was a simple thank you card.
I know.
Columbus Day Controversy00:13:25
I shouldn't have been supposed to be.
I have mine pinned up with a little Target on it.
Happy Columbus Day.
How dare you?
How?
I can't believe the bigotry on this show.
Happy Columbus Day.
Thank you very much.
You know, Columbus, they don't have Columbus Day anymore because Columbus was a genocidal maniac.
He massacred a lot of people.
I mean, not really, but he did in the leftist imagination.
Which is where we're supposed to live.
Yes, and so he did that in the leftist imagination in 1492, which is five years after the Aztecs slaughtered 80,000 people at the consecration.
Which is why we need to rename Columbus Day into Indigenous Peoples' Day.
That's your history.
I think we should all celebrate Columbus Day by watching the Mel Gibson film Apocalypse.
Like things were great before we got here.
Did you watch every minute of this?
I watched every single minute.
You can't blame me for this.
It was not me.
This was not you.
This came from on high, from the God King of the United States.
Oh, it came from the God Kingdom so well.
And then, you know, if it comes from the God Regional.
The whole apparatus of someone had to watch.
I actually got messages from very prominent people who I won't say their names at very prominent networks who said, Michael, thank you for watching this.
I cannot watch it.
I couldn't watch it.
I kept tuning it in.
What really got me, you know, they bring on these little kids, these nine-year-old kids.
And I noticed, by the way, that they brought in transgender nine-year-old kids, meaning a little girl who thought he was a boy.
So he was all dressed up as a boy.
There's two of them.
But I noticed that they didn't bring any little boys and dressed up as girls because everybody would have gone like, ooh, something about a little girl dressed as a boy, kind of like maybe it's in Germany or something like that.
Who knows?
Ellen wears a tuxedo to the eyes.
Exactly.
But the only thing about this, first of all, the picture of Elizabeth Warren welcoming that child with a look of horror deep in her eyes that you could see.
And the other thing is, a nine-year-old only knows what he's told.
So what you're watching is child abuse.
I mean, it's not, I'm not saying there aren't transgender people.
I'm not saying they shouldn't have a life and live the way they want, but a nine-year-old only knows what he's doing.
Yes.
I mean, there were two women.
One woman, the very first question in the whole show, said, I'm the mother of a nine-year-old transgender child.
She might as well have said, I'm a sufferer of Munchausen by proxy, and I insist that the people in my care are ill so that I can get attention.
I mean, she's on television saying that.
It's a terrible thing.
And, you know, the Democrats, like, I want there to be two parties, but I don't want there to be a party that sanctions child abuse.
This is the issue.
So I thought when the woman asked that question at the top of the town hall, I thought, okay, this, we're going right in for child abuse, but at least this is the most depraved it'll get.
And then it didn't.
And they actually brought on this little kid on national television.
The CNN producers should feel deep shame and make their peace with theirs.
Thank God they didn't do it in public.
They did it on CNN when you see it, but that's those airborne.
It was all over the air.
It was all over the air.
So they did all of this.
And to your point on, I want there to be two parties, but not one that sanctions child abuse on television.
This is it.
Trump does things that I really don't like.
I'll give you an example.
He swears in public.
He did it at the Louisiana rally at the same time.
And it really bugs me.
But also, there are priorities and there are gradations of evil.
Swearing in public from the office of the president, I don't like it.
It really bothers me.
Abusing children on national television is worse.
And praising it.
And praising it.
And as if it were a wonderful thing.
Exactly.
And it goes so much beyond that.
I mean, so obviously there was the child abuse.
That was upsetting.
Then you had the big lie of the LGBTQ leftist movement exposed, which is we were all told it's live and let live.
Yes.
And it's not.
It's Paul McCartney, live and let die.
We're going to live our way.
And if you don't go along with it every step of the way, and by the way, it changes every day.
We're going to bankrupt your church.
If we don't just bankrupt your church, Corey Booker said that he was going to force consequences even on non-tax exempt organizations that didn't go along with this.
That was the lie of it all.
And it requires such a devotion to fantasy because I'll give an example.
I actually broke some news during the town hall, which is I made a joke.
First mistake.
I made a joke and I said, I wonder if.
Don't you know what time, what year it is?
2019.
I made a joke.
I said, is Julian Castro going to double down on his support of abortion rights for men?
This is based on a misstatement that he had made in an earlier debate where he said he supports abortion not just for women, but for trans women.
And he just obviously didn't understand what the phrase trans women means, which is it means biological men who can not conceive children to begin with and they're in their uteruses that they don't have.
So obviously they can't have abortions.
Julian Castro's national political director tweeted at me immediately and said, of course he does.
He supports abortions for anybody who wants it, regardless of how they identify.
I saw that tweet and I tweeted to you.
I'm in favor of abortions for men.
If only men have abortions, I'll be a happy person.
I am 100% pro-life or pro-choice rather on abortion for men.
The good thing about it is there are no dead babies.
There are none.
It's a big win.
Even, you know, there was the pandering throughout the whole event.
So both Corey Booker and Joe Biden, the first two candidates to go on stage, flirted with men.
Corey Booker flirted with a guy.
Well, that's, well, I won't.
I'm not going there.
I'm not going there.
And then Joe Biden comes on stage.
He talks about, he said that he went into the Oval Office and thought Barack Obama was going to nail him, but instead he just kissed him.
Again, not even going to go a little deeper into that.
I have to tell you, cringe-worthy is not.
Cringe is not the word word.
It was, he nearly kissed Anderson Cooper, and then he said that one of the guys asking a question walked out of gentlemen's quarterly.
So that pandering was one thing.
Then Corey Booker is asked a question about the Pulse nightclub shooting by a Muslim terrorist who during the shooting swore allegiance to ISIS.
And he said, white supremacy and right-wing terror is the biggest threat in America.
That's wonderful.
It is wonderful.
I love the fact that if, I love the fact that if a Muslim kills you, it's a lone wolf.
But if a right-wing lunatic kills you, it's the growing Nazi movement in America.
By the way, this is misunderstood, but even by their own, they always say since 9-11, all the terrorist attacks have been white supremacists.
They're kind of missing a big one, but okay.
But even using that premise and even using their own logic, their own numbers from the Investigation Fund 2017 study says that white supremacist plots outnumber Islamist plots by a ratio of two to one.
But white people outnumber Muslims by a ratio of 55 to 1.
Yes, but they know people don't know math.
So they don't know math and they're not going to do that.
So even their own logic falls apart.
Plus, by the way, the FBI, when it's not trying to spy on Donald Trump, actually has reshaped itself into an anti-terrorist crime fighting force who has been fighting a lot of the Islamic terrorists.
Exactly.
They made it harder on him.
You know, to give some credit to Beto O'Rourke, the big takeaway from this is the honesty, the honesty in the fantasy.
The social conservative argument against these progressive social policies, specifically on sex issues, has always been, we can't do this because then we're going to do that.
And what the left says, they say, we don't want to do that.
We just want to do this.
And then Beto O'Rourke comes out and he goes, hell yeah, we're going to do that.
We're doing that right now.
And if you don't do that, we're going to take away your church.
You know, it really is a problem for people like me who basically want everybody to live, who really do want to live and let live.
Like, I don't care.
What is it to me?
You know, I mean, I'm an artist.
Everybody I know is out of his mind.
So it's like, you know, if the only thing, if the only thing different about you is you happen to sleep with someone of the same sex, that to me is like a plus.
Most of the guys I know are like drugged up and hanging from little rafters.
You're ahead of the game.
Exactly.
No, and look, I mean, I'm a New Yorker.
I grew up with all these different kinds of people all around me all the time.
I want them to be happy and have a good American lives.
But it's the left hijacks everything.
It's like with feminism.
It's like, I certainly want every woman to make any choice for her life that she can sustain.
That's what I want.
Maybe I think they should make this choice and not that choice.
Who cares what I think?
It's their lives.
But the left takes everything over and they turn it into this destructive machine.
What it shows you is this live and let lie or live and let live thing was always to conceal what this is all about.
It has nothing to do with helping people who have different sexual preferences.
It has nothing to do with helping people who have different sexual identities.
It's all about power.
It's always about power.
The way you know, it's on the progress point.
It always changes.
So we were told for a long time that sexual preference was not a choice.
You were born that way.
Then Cynthia Nixon kind of blew that one up and she said she chose to be a lesbian.
Then we heard you can choose your own sexual preference, but only when it's convenient for the left.
Then we were told you don't choose your gender identity.
Then we were told you do choose your gender identity.
It reminds me of Orwell.
Orwell's issue is.
It is Orwell.
History is, all the records are destroyed.
All that exists is the eternal present in which the party is always right.
That's exactly what it is.
And I'm telling you at this point, I have all kinds of problems with Trump.
You know that, but I would vote for him twice at this point because these people are a danger to society.
Of course, because President Trump does something that you don't like in some far-flung region of the world, maybe that you don't like.
Because President Trump puts out some crime bill that I don't like, for instance, I'm going to vote for these people.
It would be insane.
It would be soft.
There's no choice.
We got to stop.
What are you talking about on your show?
So I'm obviously going to LOL at the LGBTQ town hall.
But we're also going to talk about, I'm going to put a little criticism toward Trump, and then I'm going to talk about my favorite man in history.
Not my favorite man, but he's in the top five.
Like Chris, the total man.
The man, yeah, the man himself, Christopher Columbus, the guy without whom none of us would be here.
And he solved a lot of crimes.
Maybe that was Columbo.
He wore the trench coat.
Anyway, I know.
Thanks a lot, Melissa.
Good to talk to you.
All right.
I just want to end with one thing.
We've gotten a couple of comments from people.
They put on, you know, it really helps us when you go on and listen to Another Kingdom and you give us a five-star review and you like it and you subscribe.
That really is helpful to us.
Some people have gone on giving us bad reviews because there's a sex scene in the first episode that is very important to the story.
And I put it in there knowing that some people would object, but they leave a one-star review.
Edonin Scalia, the great jurist, was once asked what a Catholic judge should be like.
And he said, what he should be like is an excellent judge.
He shouldn't be making Catholic decisions.
He should be making judge decisions.
And that's something that people don't always understand.
They don't understand that to be a Christian means to do everything excellently, whether you are peeling potatoes or praying or whatever you're doing, you are doing it in the name of God.
I'm an artist.
I am there to tell stories.
And stories are there to communicate the inner reality of life as I see it.
It's a way of connecting my vision to you so that it expands your vision with new vision.
I do not experience the world as a sexless place.
I don't experience it as an altogether happy or clean or perfect place.
So I relate it to you as I experience it.
I'm trying to be the best artist I can be because that is what it means to be to be a Christian artist.
So if you don't want to listen to it, please don't listen to it.
I'd ask you, if you do listen to it, write me a letter, but don't put up bad reviews for us because that hurts us.
But, you know, do whatever you're going to do.
But just understand that one thing that's not true is when you say, oh, this wasn't necessary.
Yes, it was.
Because I'm very good at what I do.
I know when it's necessary or not to achieve what's necessary and not necessary to achieve the art that I'm trying to achieve.
I think this Another Kingdom thing is one of the best thing I've ever done.
I think you are really missing out if you don't listen.
But if you don't like a little bit of realism in your characters, I can't help you.
All right, I just wanted to let you know that, and I am traveling today.
I'm going to go give a speech to the Acton Institute, a place I admire very much.
I'm their keynote speaker this year, and I'm honored to be there.
I think they're going to live stream it, so I hope you'll find it and watch.
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