Andrew Clavin and Natalie Ritchie dismantle modern ideological failures—Google’s auto-correct rewriting "liberties" as state dependency, while Trump’s Jerusalem embassy move breaks 23 years of bipartisan waivers, exposing moral equivalence myths. Clavin ties U.S. support for Israel to shared democratic values, rejecting Hamas’ terrorism and media propaganda framing Palestinian deaths as equivalent to Israeli actions, citing Chuck Schumer’s 2014 acknowledgment of the asymmetry. Ritchie’s Roar Like a Woman argues feminism inverted its mission, replacing domestic empowerment with male-centric careerism, ignoring women’s unpaid labor and creating unsustainable burdens, while dismissing nurturing roles as irrelevant—all while fueling single motherhood crises and societal individualism. Both critiques reveal how progressive dogma distorts reality, from geopolitics to gender, prioritizing ideology over human complexity. [Automatically generated summary]
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So I'm watching.
Oh, you know, before I start talking about anything else, I want to just mention the fact that Tom Wolf died.
Terrific author.
He's 87 years old.
Good long life with many beautiful, beautiful books.
And I'll try and talk about him later in the week.
It just happened while I was preparing the show, so I didn't want to go off half-cock and talk about him.
But he was a terrific writer, a wise guy, and really, really an interesting addition to the American literary canon.
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87 is a good long life, but I'm sorry to see him go.
You know, I've been watching this thing with the American embassy moving to Jerusalem.
I guess we're all watching it on TV.
Nail Fix Listening00:02:18
And it reminded me of something about failure.
Failure is a habit.
It's a habit of mind.
I have seen this all throughout my life.
I've seen it with dozens of people.
Sometimes it's even popped up in my own life that failure is something you get used to and you keep doing the same thing.
You know, the old expression that insanity is when you keep doing the same thing, but you expect different results.
I had a friend, a little off the topic, but actually a good story.
I had a friend a long, long time ago.
And we would go out together and sometimes we double date, you know, sometimes.
And he dated a different woman all the time who was always the same woman.
She was always, she always looked the same.
She always had shortcut blonde hair.
She was always small frame, but very beautiful.
And she was always out of her mind.
I never, seriously, never went out with this guy when his girlfriend did not end up curled up on the floor screaming and crying about something.
And it was always a different woman.
It was always, and they were so similar.
They even looked so similar that one night we went out together and it was halfway through the evening before I realized he had changed girlfriends again.
And one night he and I sat up and one of those kind of guys drinking all night, you know, things, and we were talking about life and everything.
And he said, I can't understand it.
I cannot understand it.
My relationships keep falling apart.
And I was like, you know, you keep going out with the same woman.
What are you talking about?
I've gone out with all these different.
No, I said, yeah, but they're all, they even look exactly like.
And he couldn't hear me.
It reminded me, have you ever seen Rob that thing about the nail?
It's not about the nail.
Let's play just with just a little bit of it.
This is a girl sitting on a sofa explaining to her boyfriend that she's got this terrible headache.
And if you can't see it, if you're just listening, when she turns around, we see there's a gigantic nail sticking out of her forehead.
It's just, there's all this pressure, you know?
And sometimes it feels like it's right up on me and I can just feel it, like literally feel it in my head, and it's relentless.
And I don't know if it's going to stop.
I mean, that's the thing that scares me the most is that I don't know if it's ever going to stop.
Yeah.
Well, you do have a nail in your head.
It is not about the nail.
Are you sure?
Candid Co: Fixing Teeth, Presidents, and Pressure00:05:51
Because, I mean, I'll bet if we got that out of there.
Stop trying to fix it.
No, I'm not trying to fix it.
I'm just pointing out that maybe the nail is causing it.
You always do this.
You always try to fix things when what I really need is for you to just listen.
See, I don't think that is what you need.
I think what you need is to get the nail.
See, you're not even listening now.
Okay, fine.
I will listen.
Fine.
I love that.
Because that is the habit of failure.
That is the habit of suffering.
And, you know, in the Bible, St. Paul says, I do not understand what I do, for I want to do, for what I want to do, I do not do, but what I hate, I do.
I think it even goes beyond that, too.
I mean, that is, of course, the state of sin, but it also goes beyond that to what the philosopher Schopenhauer said.
He said, a man can do what he wants, but he can't will what he wants.
I think we even want the things that destroy us.
And what we have to examine is we have to examine the underlying principles that we're operating on, the broken principles that are causing us to become comfortable with this habit of failure.
So you want to see a habit of failure.
You want to see a country that got into a habit of failure.
Take a look at this montage of the presidents and see if you can spot which president is different from the others.
This is cut number three.
Jerusalem is still the capital of Israel and must remain an undivided city, accessible to all.
As soon as I take office, I will begin the process of moving the United States ambassador to the city Israel has chosen as its capital.
I continue to say that Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel.
And I have said that before, and I will say it again.
And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided.
We will move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jewish people, Jerusalem.
Can you spot the difference between those presidents?
Like, you know, 20, I think it's 23 years ago, there was a bipartisan law passed in Congress that said Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and we will move our embassy to Jerusalem because it is the capital of Israel where we put our embassies, right?
23 years ago, in this law, there is a waiver that every six months, if you say, well, maybe this is not the right time, you can sign that waiver.
For 23 years, presidents have been signing that waiver and obviously not doing, it's not like they've been scratching their chin and walking around the rose garden and thinking, hmm, do I say, you know, the thing, it's the waiver time again.
Yeah, it's dead.
You know, and it's just the habit of failure.
If we believe in it, if it's a bipartisan law, why ain't we doing it?
For 23 years, I can understand six months, I could understand a year putting it off.
But for 23 years, you get into a habit of failure.
And that habit of failure, underneath that habit of failure, is a system of thought, is a system of values and principles that are powering that that you can't let go of, even as they're causing you to sink beneath the waves.
And we do this in all kinds of things.
We do it in our personal lives.
We do it in our professional lives.
And we've been doing it in our national lives with Jerusalem.
I'm going to talk about, I'm going to show you, show you what that underlying principle is, or at least some of those underlying principles that have caused us to fail on this again and again, every president promising it and every president letting it go by the board.
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Middle East Tensions00:11:01
All right, so what is the underlying principle that fuels this habit of failure to support Israel?
I will show it to you in what was an amazing, amazing press conference with Raj Shah, the assistant guest spokesman for the White House.
And here are the questions that the reporters were asking him about.
Now, to set this up, obviously you probably already know this: that Hamas in Gaza has basically told people to try and invade Israel.
And apparently, they told the people that the wall between Gaza and Israel was not manned, which it is.
It's manned with soldiers who protect it.
And so they raced at the wall, setting tires on fire, throwing gas things, you know, over this, throwing flaming kites and all this.
And the Israelis opened fire on some of them as they were charging the wall.
It was an invasion.
It was thousands of people charging the wall.
So they opened fire, and more people have been killed.
More Palestinians have been killed than since the 2014 war.
So here is the press reacting to this in their the way they've been reacting for 70 years, right?
Israel is now 70 years old, and this is the way the press has been reacting forever, asking these questions of Raj Shah.
The death toll is over 50 in Gaza.
Is the U.S. calling on Israel to use restraint in dealing with these protests?
Well, we believe that Hamas is responsible for these tragic deaths, that their rather cynical exploitation of the situation is what's leading to these deaths, and we want them to stop.
So there's no burden on Israel to do something to sort of rein it in?
If I can, very quickly, the French Foreign Minister Raj said about what's taking place in Gaza, he urged Israeli authorities to exercise discretion and restraint.
So to be clear, does the U.S. not agree with the French that Israeli authorities should exercise discretion and restraint?
We believe that Hamas is responsible for what's going on.
So there's no responsibility beyond that on the Israeli authorities.
Kill it will.
What I'm saying is that we believe that Hamas, as an organization, is engaged in cynical action that's leading to these deaths.
On the issue of peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians, when was the last time the White House reached out to Palestinian leadership?
And will, given the high numbers of casualties that Palestinians calling what's happening today a massacre, will the White House be reaching out?
Well, I don't honestly have an answer for you on that.
I'll get back to you.
Just follow up then.
Sure.
I mean, Jared Kushner in his speech pointed a finger at the Palestinians saying they were responsible for provoking violence.
But given the fact that it's only Palestinians who are being killed, should Israel not shoulder some of the blame?
Well, as I said earlier, we believe Hamas bears the responsibility, but this is a propaganda attempt.
I mean, this is a gruesome and unfortunate propaganda attempt.
I think the Israeli government has spent weeks trying to handle this without violence.
How many times does he have to say the same thing over and over again?
It's Hamas who's responsible for this.
Hamas is a terrorist organization in its charter.
It calls for the destruction of Israel.
When Hamas's leader was asked, does he believe that Israel has a right to exist?
He said, I'll have to have a country first and then I'll get back to you.
Thanks a lot.
That's like, you know, do you believe that I have a right to exist?
Well, I need a gun first and then I'll let you know.
The daily news, just to cover itself in slime, and when you have underlying principles that are wrong, when you underlying principles that are misguided, one of the ways you can tell is what you turn into.
That's one of the ways you can tell.
If you can't argue with someone who opposes you without using four-letter words, if you can't argue without attacking somebody personally, you probably made a mistake somewhere.
Here's the daily news.
Ivanka Trump was sent over to the opening of the embassy, made speeches welcoming people.
It was a celebratory event in Israel because obviously finally they're getting something that has just been reality.
America is just recognizing reality.
The Daily News puts out this headline of Ivanka smiling, Daddy's Little Ghoul.
55 slaughtered in Gaza, but Ivanka all smiles at Jerusalem Embassy Unveil.
When you turn into that, when you turn into a person who does that to someone, you know that you've made a mistake.
That's when you start to say, like, oh yeah, now I stink, I suck, and it's probably because my values are bad.
Morning Joe re-echoed this, just like kind of slavishly sold this line of thought.
Listen to them talking about this.
And Mika, for the rest of the world, you actually saw an administration, a White House, and we'll say it since Ivanka Trump was there, a family completely out of touch with the realities of the region that they're dealing with.
And, you know, you had 55 people killed yesterday.
58, 58, 59.
58.
And you had a split screen of what looked like a VIP tent at the Belmont Stakes.
And they just seemed totally oblivious to what was going on not so far away.
Totally oblivious.
They're celebrating it.
They're celebrating the opening of the embassy in Jerusalem while these terrorists who want to wipe this country off the face of the earth are trying to kill them.
You know, Nikki Haley pushed this a little further, saying it's not just Hamas, that Hamas is Iran.
And that, of course, is true.
The Iran deal, part of what's going on is Iran is fighting back against Washington that is finally admitting that Iran is not our friend.
Iran is responsible for a lot of this.
And Nikki Haley in the UN, when they were gathering together, obviously to condemn Israel, went after them.
In recent days, Hamas terrorists, backed by Iran, have incited attacks against Israeli security forces and infrastructure.
That is violence that should occupy our attention too.
The common threat in all of this is the destabling conduct of the Iranian regime, a regime that insists on promoting violence throughout the Middle East while depriving its own people of basic human rights.
The United States welcomes a discussion of this violence in the Middle East.
We welcome discussing the ways we can cooperate with each other to put an end to this violence.
There is far too little discussion in the Security Council on Iran's destabilizing presence in Syria, its promotion of violence in Yemen, its support for terrorism in Gaza, and its dangerous and illegal weapons buildup in Lebanon.
So, you know, this is what's happening here.
Walter Russell Mead, great new columnist of the Wall Street Journal, wrote about this today.
What is happening is Obama was basically withdrawing from the Middle East.
And he thought if we're nice to Iran, Iran will become more moderate, and they'll be nice, and we can just kind of pull out, and then we'll have the great global world that's coming, the great, you know, unified global world run by the UN, and America won't have to be the cop anymore on the street.
So it's just, we'll just kind of decline into like a sort of England.
We used to be a great power, but we're not anymore.
And Donald Trump is like, I don't think so.
I don't think that's where this is going.
Obviously, Iran is not moderating, is not becoming a more moderate force.
Whether they're building nuclear weapons or not, they're not becoming a moderate force.
They're still terrorists trying to destroy Israel.
If we pull out, Israel is going to be in big trouble.
And freedom is going to be in big trouble because that is the underlying principle that these reporters are all missing.
The idea is that we are supposed to be fair and treat Palestine, the Palestinians and the Israelis the same.
And we should not.
We should not.
They are not the same.
You know, who knew this?
Chuck Schumer.
Chuck Schumer, you know, he never acts on it.
He never did anything about it.
He brags about how he helped pass the bill declaring Jerusalem the capital, but he never did anything.
He supported Obama.
He didn't support the Iran deal, but he supported Obama when Obama was stabbing Israel in the back repeatedly.
But he made a speech in 2014.
He said, you can't have moral equivalence between these two people.
This was right after three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and killed by Hamas, and somebody struck back by killing a Palestinian teenager.
And he said, this is not the same thing.
Listen to Chuck when he was actually talking sense.
He wasn't doing anything about it, but he was talking sense.
How can we compare the two sides?
How can people say, oh, the Israelis, oh, the Palestinians, it's one big fight.
They're all the same.
It is not.
Again, regretfully, there are fanatics on both sides.
And I abhor the Israeli fanatics.
They make things bad for the vast majority of Israelis who want to live in peace in a two-state solution.
But the vast majority of Israelis condemn the Jewish fanatics.
The vast majority of Palestinians seem to praise the Palestinian terrorists.
And Hamas, one of the two main governing organizations in Gaza and the West Bank, loudly praises the kidnapping and killing of the three Israeli boys.
Right.
It's about values.
It's about what Israel stands for.
Israel stands for freedom.
One of the most successful videos I ever did in my early, when I first started doing videos, was called the One State Solution, where the entire Middle East is given to Israel.
He said, never mind, there's a two-state solution.
And of course, I was joking about that, but I wasn't joking about the fact that the values of Israel that actually supports freedom of religion, supports freedom for women, supports equality, democratic governance, rule of law, all those things that Israel supports that the Palestinians do not support and the Iranians do not support.
By the way, there are plenty of countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan that are saying like, yeah, we don't really care about this.
You know, Israel is actually better for us than Iran.
They're actually siding with Israel now because Iran is becoming such a beast because Obama was pulling out and letting Iran get bigger and bigger and bigger.
Those underlying principles are false.
Israel is not just our friend because they're our friend.
They're our friend because they are us.
They are the West.
They are freedom.
They're rule of law.
They're the things that we support in this world.
And we don't support the Palestinians in the same way because they are not representing those values.
The last thing we need is another crummy country of oppression.
You know, when Saudi Arabia moves a little bit toward being more like Israel, more like the West, when these countries do that, they become better countries for their people, for their people too.
So we're supporting values over there.
It's not just, it is not that all these people are the same.
And it's not just the body count either, because the body count, it really does matter who is responsible for it.
Values Over Equality00:03:45
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I want to end with just one thing.
You know, I did it yesterday.
They released an interview I did on a podcast called Bad Christian Podcast.
And on this interview, I was talking about relations with blacks.
And they were kind of, they're young guys and they're saying, well, you know, shouldn't you have white privilege and shouldn't we balance white privilege?
And I said, you know what?
You can't change the past.
The past is the past.
You can only stop doing what you were doing.
That's all you can do.
You can only start treating people equally, equally.
What do I do with an equal person?
I compete with them.
I try to make him beat me.
If he wants the job I want, he's got to be better than me.
That's it.
That way he has to be excellent.
And somebody put on Twitter, and I'm not attacking this guy personally.
I know he's a man of goodwill.
He just wants things to be good.
But he says, this was cruel.
It is cruel to expect a black man to compete with you.
It's like asking a twig to compete with a tank.
So I'm cruel because I'm treating a black guy as my equal, which I believe.
I mean, I'm not just treating him that way.
I actually believe he is my equal.
But he is kind like the guy in 300.
I am kind.
You know, he is kind because he is pitying this guy and infantilizing this guy and belittling this guy in the interests of his feeling that he is serving equality.
You want to serve equality?
You treat people like equals.
And if I treat you like an equal, it means I'm going to make you beat me for everything that I want.
If you want to take something from me, you've got to be better than me.
And ultimately, of course, you'll never beat me.
I mean, let's face it.
But ultimately, that is going to raise you to excellence.
And after I'm dead, you can start having the things that you want.
These underlying principles make us foolish.
And we don't look around and say, oh, look, they're failing.
They're failing.
There is no Israel-Palestinian peace process.
There hasn't been for 70 years.
You can't have a peace process with people who want to destroy you.
There's no good for black people in treating them like children and treating them like second-rate citizens.
That is not a good thing.
That is not helpful.
To say, oh, you need reparations before you can do anything.
No, you don't.
Get an education.
Make sure you marry the women who have your children.
Do those things and you will be everything that you are going to be.
And that, when you start to treat people like that, you break the habit of failure because you're getting rid of the underlying values that are leading you astray.
Feminism And The Pressure Of Motherhood00:15:25
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All right, Natalie Ritchie joined us from Sydney, Australia, where it was four o'clock in the morning, which was very kind of her.
She's the author of Roar Like a Woman, How Feminists Think Women Suck and Men Rock, which will be released June 5th, but you can already pre-order it on Amazon.
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I know it's some ungodly hour in where you are, but I appreciate it.
Oh, anything for you, Andrew?
4.15 a.m. is fine.
Yeah.
So, you know, I've been reading Roar Like a Woman, How Feminists Think Women Suck and Men Rock.
And I have to tell you that a lot of this stuff that has occurred to me before that feminists seem to have adopted male values.
Let me just, I will read a quote for the audience and then ask for your comment on it.
Feminism cares about career, not because it sees career as women's work, but because it sees it as men's work and therefore as the pathway to self-actualization for women.
Can you explain that?
Why do you feel that is?
Yes.
I think when feminism began in the 1960s and the 70s, it was such a positive movement.
You know, it was about getting women out of those limiting roles of only being a housewife and mother and going out into the world and doing lots of great stuff.
That was such a wonderful thing.
And it achieved that in a couple of short decades.
You know, from 1963 to 1983, say, it basically changed the world.
That was wonderful.
But then it morphed into the very opposite of what it set out to be.
It, instead of attacking the oppression, if you like, that kept women limited to housewives and mothers, it attacked housewives and mothers themselves.
And so instead of being a left-wing movement that purported to care about women as a minority, it flung itself at the feet of the big bad white men on the right kind of thing and said, no, he is the way, the truth, and the light.
You've got to be him or you're not as good as him.
And so it's actually morphed into a very misogynist patriarchal movement.
It has become a patriarchy all its own.
It really is true.
And for a left-wing movement, it has also adopted the values of capitalism.
It basically says to women, if you're not making money, if you're not making the same amount of money as somebody else, you're kind of a failure.
That's right.
Men have been taken as the benchmark and women are no longer legitimate people in their own right.
And when you worship men like that, you worship the dimensions of life that men live in.
And men primarily spend their day in the public dimension of life.
And so feminism has pumped all the oxygen to those dimensions and drained oxygen, drained validation from the big private dimension, if you like, the place outside the workplace, the home, the community, the family, the connections between people.
And I wonder if that is why, or if that is contributing to the anxiety that we all feel today, because if you're living to work, if you're living to govern, you're not living well.
You know, business and government are there to serve the business of living.
You know, we work to live, we govern to live.
And so feminism has really inverted the purpose of why we're all here.
You know, while I certainly agree with you that when feminism got started in the 60s and 70s, there was a lot of, there were changes that needed to be made.
Our gender roles had become very restrictive, and there were all kinds of reasons, technology and birth control, why women were now free of certain things that they weren't free of before.
But very early on, there was a kind of tendency toward this in the movement.
Simone de Beauvoir famously said that she didn't believe that women should be allowed to make the choice of being homemakers because too many women would make that choice, which translates into women shouldn't live the way they want to live.
They should live the way Simone de Beauvoir wants them to live.
That's right.
Why do you think that that strain of feminism has taken over?
I think my personal theory is that those masculinist women, I would call them masculinist women, have probably grown up in homes where they didn't have strong, strong, what I would call strong women, you know, women who actually valued what women bring to the world, the mothering most obviously, running a home, which matters, you know, dinner matters.
A clean house matters.
The kids matter.
Your neighbors matter.
The connections with the community matter.
A woman is probably caring for her own elderly parents.
These things all matter too.
And the only difference I would say between a failed woman and a successful woman is self-respect.
You don't have to like being a housewife.
You don't even have to enjoy being a mother.
Lots of mothers don't enjoy everything about motherhood.
But you do need to respect it.
What you're doing matters.
And feminism is saying what women bring to the world doesn't matter.
Only what he brings matters.
And that is causing women to attack ourselves.
We're actually believing that we suck.
But if we do what a man does, if we have that CV, then we don't suck anymore.
And it's got to be the same CV he's got.
We've got to be doing the same jobs, working the same hours.
And what that means is that if every woman is doing what a man does, then no woman is doing what women do.
And if a man is a petroleum engineer, then she's got to be a petroleum engineer.
And she can't run a ballet studio or run a manicure salon unless he runs a ballet studio or owns a manicure salon.
So we get to this insane world where women are eradicated and the stock of masculinity in the world is effectively doubled.
It really is strange, especially because it depends upon women hiring other women to do the things that women have traditionally loved to do, like nurture children.
I mean, it's not like the children can run free.
Somebody's got to come in and take care of them.
And usually that means that upper class women are hiring lower class women.
So it doesn't actually change anything.
It just supports the rich over the poor.
Yes, yes.
And, you know, if you can't afford to buy that help in, then you wear it all yourself.
You know, the average woman takes on both the, say, 40-hour week that a man is working, which we consider a full-time contribution from a man.
She's also doing the immensity of motherhood.
You know, I totted up the hours that I worked with, if you have an ever-crying baby, as I did with my first child, if you have a toddler, if you're running a home, and that can all add up.
I calculated it came to over 300 hours a week.
I mean, obviously she's not doing 300 hours a week, but if she was cleaning the bathroom, if she was doing all the different chores that are there to be done, that's how much work it is.
And then feminism comes along and slams a 40-hour week down on her head as well and says, you've got to do that before you're his equal.
He doesn't have to do what she does before feminism considers him to be her equal.
You know, feminism isn't saying, oh, men are in a distressing state of inferiority because they're not mothering.
And so we have this incredibly unequal situation now where women are left with their 50% share of the domestic and parroting load.
They're doing most of his 50% share of the domestic and paroting load.
And they're doing as much as 100% of his paid 40-hour week.
And this is untenable.
If you're wealthy, yes, you can afford the working class women to come into your home.
I just spoke to a woman recently who had what she called a household manager, which is like a, it's a housekeeper.
So in addition to a cleaner, she had someone come in four hours a day at that school hour time about 2 to 6 p.m.
She cooked dinner, she tended to the kids, she got the homework done.
And that's fantastic.
But what that woman was doing was acknowledging how much work she does and was actually willing to pay for it.
But most of us cannot afford to do that.
And so women are just absorbing and absorbing and absorbing more and more.
And the pressure is not letting up from feminism.
I thought it would actually pull back after that first intense masculinist era of the 80s and 90s.
But in fact, calls for gender equality, where 100% of women do what 100% of men do, are ramping up.
You know, feminism is interpreting equality as a 50-50 breakdown of any given endeavor.
Well, 50-50 is just another way of saying 100-100.
It's about saying 100% of women have got to do what 100% of men do.
You know, there's a tendency among feminists, certainly among the feminists who are most outspoken now, to attribute certain attitudes to men that are only true of the worst sorts of men.
So they talk about men as being pigs to women.
They talk about men as not having respect for what women do.
But of course, you know, most men, we just had Mother's Day here yesterday.
I mean, most men, the last words they ever speak on earth are calling for their mothers.
They, you know, they think about their mothers with very high regard.
I've been around men all my life.
And when they speak of their wives, oddly enough, I mean, you know, if you only went by what you saw on television, you would think that men were constantly making snarky remarks about their wives.
But in locker rooms and places where men gather, men speak about their wives with enormous respect.
It makes me wonder: is feminism being led by a group of women who are projecting those attitudes, that those are their attitudes, that they hate themselves as mothers, they hate themselves as wives, and they're projecting that attitude on men?
I think so, totally.
I think I have never yet met an avowed feminist who speaks well of her own mother or who speaks well of her own father.
She might worship her father, but what I've noticed is that feminists always seem to see men as powerful, but powerful in negative ways.
You know, they're powerful through being absent as a deserting father or through arrogance or through alcoholism or abuse.
And they tend to see their mothers as powerless, as damaged or crippled.
And then I think, yes, they are projecting those ugly family dynamics onto society at large.
They're probably only a minority of women, but we all tend to go along with feminism because it stands up for women's rights to a career.
And we don't want to be seen to renounce our right to career.
We think feminism is our friend.
So we get pulled in along, pulled along in the wake of those masculinist women who really do not have respect for themselves or respect for men.
You know, men are not toxic.
Masculinity is not toxic.
Masculinity is wonderful.
You know, masculinity gave us just about everything worth having.
It gave us freedom, political systems, you know, the economy, inventions, science.
It's just about everything we use.
It's very strange.
One of the things that you wrote about that really I was so happy to see you write about was single motherhood.
I mean, I've visited a lot of prisons and I've seen when you walk by the cells, what you are seeing is one fatherless child after another.
How do you feel that feminism has increased single motherhood and why do you feel that that is so bad?
Yes, I think it's bad because I have been a single mother.
My marriage ended when my two sons were four and five and it breaks me, frankly.
I do not get by.
You know, I have an education, I can get a job, but how do I get a job when I already have the world's busiest job, taking care of children?
And, you know, the jobs in my field are in a location in my city that is a very long distance from my house.
I cannot make that commute in one hour.
Even if I were to find a job at 5 p.m., which in my city, I live in Sydney, Australia, jobs finish at like 6, 6:30 p.m.
And then you've got to make a very long commute to the daycare center, which closes at 6 p.m.
They all shut at 6 p.m. here.
And then you've got to get home.
It takes me 40 minutes to get home.
To be getting into the home at 6:40 p.m. and starting to get dinner cooked, to get the kids inside, you know, the whining, you know, what it's like, all the dishes that haven't been cleared since the morning, you know, all of that stuff.
It is impossible.
And yet, feminism is acting as if that immense job of motherhood does not exist and that a woman can do both his work, if you call it his work of earning a living, and her work of motherhood at the very same time.
So it's become an individualist movement that's acting as if families don't exist and people don't need each other, but people do need each other.
You know, I'm running out of time.
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I want to ask you a last question.
You talk about a woman-shaped world.
What does a woman-shaped world look like exactly?
Oh, yeah.
I think a woman-shaped world, it would just be a world that gives a woman her due equally as much as we give a man his due, that particularly in the workplace, just accommodates the work that women are already doing, running homes and taking care of the kids, and actually shapes jobs to fit that reality.
You know, we design a job to start at, say, 9 a.m., finish around 5 p.m., to give a man time to eat breakfast, travel to work, come home, eat dinner, have an evening.
We give him two whole days out of seven in which to rest.
We give him annual vacation.
But we're not doing that for, so we're acknowledging his humanity.
We're not really acknowledging her human experience, which is the experience of running homes and caring for kids.
You know, we could have a parallel school hours economy that I think more than anything else in the workplace would make an enormous difference to mothers, to women's lives.
It would be a very empowering thing.
Employers have businesses to run.
Of course they do.
But employers had mothers too.
Mothers are everybody.
Everybody on earth had a mother.
And we should be able to be accommodating that immense workload.
You know, it's funny.
I believe that more than anything that feminists say, male oppression or anything, the biggest problem women have today is that industry has taken a lot of what used to be home industries out into the factory and left at-home mothers without a way to make a living while being an at-home mother, which they used to have.
And that is a problem that really needs solving.
Thank you.
Natalie Ritchie, author of Roar Like a Woman, How Feminists Think Women Suck and Men Rock.
Thank you for getting up so early in Sydney, Australia.
I appreciate it.
It's really nice talking to you.
It has been a pleasure.
Thanks a lot.
Really interesting lady.
Nice intro to sexual follies.
So HuffPo has got to be one of the stupidest.
Andrew Breitbart told me he helped build the Huffington Post.
He said it was one of the biggest mistakes of his life.
He did.
He said it was a terrible mistake.
They had an article, why is fish sex so hot right now?
An investigation, right?
This is by Claire Fallon.
And basically, she finds that there are two stories, The Shape of Water, obviously the Oscar-winning film by Guillermo del Toro, and a book called Pisces that feature women having sex with fish.
And so she takes this to be a trend.
And she says, these stories seem to have arrived during an inflection point for heterosexual relations as some straight women have thrown their hands up in despair at the prospect of dealing with straight men.
These men who grope us and talk down to us and consistently fail to clean the bathroom.
We're supposed to make lives with them, let them touch us.
Women woke up one day to find that their husbands voted for Donald Trump and their sons have been posting on incel boards.
Even before we heard the claims about Harvey Weinstein's history of sexual harassment and assault and the assuing avalanche of other horrifying Me Too allegations we heard about our president grabbing women, Bill Cosby.
So many straight men we have been forced to accept are bad to and for us.
Why would we take the enormous risk of loving them, loving one of them?
And yet we do have survivors, so let's sleep with fish, basically.
She goes on.
First of all, you know, my daughter, Faith Moore, who writes over at PJ Media, she did a hilarious piece on this.
It's called HuffPo's Women Would Rather Have Sex with Fish Than a Man.
And she makes fun of this, the fact that it's just two stories doesn't make it a trend.
But one of the things she says, Faith says, is that in stories where women sleep with beasts, like Beauty and the Beast and all these, they're all Phantom of the Opera.
She talks about the creature from the Black Lagoon and Twilight.
The beast represents masculinity.
The beast represents that untamed, powerful sexual drive of men that women, heterosexual women, enjoy.
So even though there are these stories about women sleeping with fish, it's the fish are men.
They actually represent men.
These people don't know, they take stories literally because they're dumb.
That's why you should read Faith's piece on it.
Like I said, it's called HuffPost.
Women would rather have sex with a fish than a man.
I don't think so, believe me.
Although maybe you just fertilize the eggs and it's all a lot easier.
They don't even know how fish actually have sex.
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