Ben Shapiro’s Ep. 477 dissects Rex Tillerson’s firing, mocking Trump’s tweet-style leadership while praising Pompeo’s CIA tenure, then pivots to Hillary Clinton’s "deplorable" slur and the House Intelligence Committee’s debunked collusion claims. Christian Toto joins to lambaste the Oscars’ "woke" shift—from Shape of Water’s win to Hollywood’s diversity mandates—and blames Trump’s election for fueling celebrities’ anti-conservative tirades, comparing them to Nazi-era rhetoric. The episode wraps with a satirical takedown of feminist grievance culture, framing it as a parody of male behavior, before teasing Shapiro’s Q&A. [Automatically generated summary]
Hey, remember when Donald Trump hired Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State and the left said that the appointment was proof of Trump's collusion with Russia because Tillerson had done business in Russia with Exxon.
Well, Trump has now fired Rex Tillerson and the left says that it's proof of Trump's collusion with Russia because Tillerson accused Vladimir Putin of poisoning a spy in Britain.
Trump meanwhile has moved the CIA director Mike Pompeo to state and he's appointed the first woman to run the CIA.
We have an exclusive interview with her.
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I don't know, darling.
Let me look in pocketbook.
Here is poison lipstick.
What shape?
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I prefer black widow black or vampire wireless.
Some booby pins for setting booby traps.
Ah.
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Good old Benny.
And the membership card in PTA.
PTA, like parents and teachers?
No, Dalek, like in pickpockets and thieves.
Okay, that doesn't look so good.
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So we're going to get to the firing of Rex Tillerson and everything and the rest.
But first, there's one thing I have to talk about.
You know, when I was a kid in school, they used to have something called Current Events.
I don't know if they do this anymore, but it was to teach you to read the newspaper.
Everybody would have to come in and report on a story.
Maybe, you know, you do it only on Thursday or whatever, but I would read the newspaper every day.
And in my house, we got the New York Times and I would read the New York Times.
And in those days, it was still a newspaper.
And I noticed as a little kid, I'm talking like in sixth grade, I noticed that your eyes naturally went to stories that upset you.
Your eyes naturally went and you naturally read stories that made you angry or that you thought were stupid or where somebody said something that was absurd.
And nowadays, what they have, and I noticed that right away, and I thought, like, well, you got to kind of guard against that so you're not always getting ticked off and you don't think the world is worse than it is.
Nowadays, they have social media, which is actually geared to do exactly that.
Light on CNN00:10:04
So, you know, some clown on Twitter who's never done anything or been anywhere and doesn't know anything about anything says something crazy and it becomes a news story.
You know, you suddenly go like, people on Twitter are saying that women are really men spelled backwards.
And you go, oh my God, the world is, it's going to hell.
You know, I think like, eh, it's six guy, some crazy guy lives with his mom in the basement.
He's sending stuff out on Twitter.
So I don't like to go to stuff that upsets you right away unless, unless it is representative Hillary Clinton.
And after all, Hillary Clinton is not some clown on Twitter.
Hillary Clinton was the Democrats nominee for President of the United States, got more actual people to vote for her than Donald Trump did.
She gave an interview in Mumbai, I guess it was in India, and she was asked once again why there's one thing that Hillary Clinton is an expert on.
She doesn't know anything about international affairs.
She doesn't know anything about governing.
She doesn't know anything about America.
But if you ask her why she lost the election, she is an expert.
Listen to this, her latest explanation.
But what the map doesn't show you is that I won the places that represent two-thirds of America's gross domestic product.
So I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward.
And his whole campaign, Make America Great Again, was looking backwards.
You know, you didn't like black people getting rights.
You don't like women, you know, getting jobs.
You don't want to, you know, see that Indian American succeeding more than you are.
Whatever your problem is, I'm going to solve it.
So it was a symptom, but it was also a cause because having someone run for president who voices those ideas, who rejects so much of the American story and our values, was also the underlying cause as well.
You know, I didn't realize until I heard that how much you people stink.
You really are deplorable.
You are deplorable.
She's right.
I mean, you don't like black people.
You don't like women.
You hate India.
You know, that is so cynical of her that she's talking to Indian people.
Obviously, she's in Mumbai and she says, oh, you know, Donald Trump, the people who supported Donald Trump, they hated those Indian Americans.
I know that's what you were sitting there going like, Hillary or Donald?
Well, you know, if I vote for Hillary, there's going to be an Indian American going to come in to my workplace.
I knew that's what you were really thinking.
This, you know, what is amazing about this is if this were just this old, you know, later on, she went and she fell down a flight of steps.
And I was thinking, I don't know why she's, you know, maybe she's old, maybe she's on drugs, some medication or something like this.
All I know is when I lived in England, all my friends were always falling down and they show up with black eyes and broken ankles and I'd say, what happened?
Well, I fell down.
Then I realized everybody in England is an alcoholic.
The entire country is drunk from beginning to end, you know?
And so that's why they fell down.
I don't know if that's what's happening with Hillary, but she represents, she does represent the people who voted for her and the people who support her in hating the rest of America.
And I just pulled this together and asked the guys here to make a little montage.
And this is just from, I think it's just from yesterday, it may be two days, of the way people talk about Donald Trump, his supporters, and the situation in Washington.
This is just a montage of commentary from the last day or maybe two.
Listen to this.
Whenever he goes out there and whips up like it's a Mussolini rally.
And I know what the NRA likes to do.
The people at the top of the NRA like to do is they like to hide behind the Second Amendment and say that this is our constitutional right.
We're Americans.
And what they're really trying to do is say, let us sell you more guns at an even younger age, put more people at risk, scare more people, cause more violence, kill more people, and sell more guns.
I don't think he's capable of the basic empathies that we feel as human beings, and that's what a sociopath is.
I think everything is immediately translated to me.
I don't think, I'm not inside him, but everything I know and know him for 20 years and see, when we see children dying, we as humans, we as parents feel a certain way.
I actually don't think it translates to him, and that's what makes them a sociopath.
Well, they're acting like, you know, slimy political operatives, not moral leaders.
You're slimy, you're sociopathic.
You know, there was one guy in there.
We didn't put him in there.
There was one guy who had actually been in a concentration camp in Germany.
And he said, living in Trump's America is like living in a concentration camp.
So if people feel this way about you, how can they ever understand what it is you actually think?
I mean, part of this, this pathology on the left about race has a lot to do with this.
That if you say, well, you know, Barack Obama is kind of a leftist, and they say, well, you just say that because he's racist.
If they're always thinking about race, how can they ever hear what you're saying if you're not talking about race at all?
And so they interpret everything in an entire.
How can we ever have a conversation when that's what they think of you?
When they think that you want people to die, that you're, you know, Van Jones, I have to, I'll just end this opening with putting on Van Jones.
Van Jones is now so upset living in your America, the America that you wanted and that you voted for, that he's begging Oprah Winfrey.
And listen to this.
He's begging Oprah Winfrey to come down from above and save us.
We had you, we had the Obamas in the White House.
Even on a bad day, you had a North Star.
You had some hope.
And then it was like the universe just said, sight, and who was in the coilet and closed the lid.
And now we're just stuck in this crazy situation.
We have each other.
We have each other.
Tell me about that.
And this is the thing.
I think I have to just say, everybody is feeding yourself on the hysteria and the negativity.
You got to stay in the light.
But one of the reasons why I was so excited is about a wrinkle in time, because the message is that the darkness is spreading so fast these days.
You must become a warrior of the light.
Stay in the light.
Oh, and see my movie.
You don't want to miss my movie if you want to be in the light.
I mean, this is the world that they are living in.
They are living in this world of utter disaster.
And that brings us to the latest in the Russia scandal.
You know, yesterday, the Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee, without telling the Democrats, said that they were going to release a report saying that they did not find any evidence of collusion on either side, and they believed the intelligence community was wrong in saying that the Russians were supporting Donald Trump, that they were just trying to sow chaos.
And Devin Nunes or Nunez or Nunes or Nunez.
What the hell is this man's name?
Does anybody, does he know?
Does he know what his name is?
Nobody pronounces it.
Call the guy's mother.
Find out what isn't Dunez.
Let's just stop saying.
Sorry.
What was I talking about?
Oh, yeah.
So they didn't send Devin Nunes out to report this because nobody knows how to pronounce his name.
So instead, they sent Mike Conaway.
And this is his summation of what their findings are.
Let's cut four.
We've reached that point where we've interviewed all the folks we need to.
We've looked at some 300,000 documents, 73 interviews that we've done across the course of the city, trying to answer the four questions that were originally set out for the committee to answer.
Yes, the Russians tried to interfere with our election process.
Yes, they had cyber attacks, active measures going on.
We could find no evidence of collusion between either campaign and the Russians.
And we also have some recommendations, or we'll have recommendations that speak to what we do in elections going forward, how important it is for Americans to be on guard on a process that's sacred to our democracy, our representative republic, quite frankly, and that is the electing of leadership across this country.
But on the big piece of the puzzle that everybody has been talking about, which is one of the reasons why your investigation was struck in the first place, no collusion that you found.
No evidence.
No evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.
Or the Clinton campaign.
So this is why people don't trust Fox News, because he has the guy there.
He doesn't even ask the tough question, how do you pronounce Devin Nunes' name?
So that way, we never get to the bottom of this.
Anyway, so, of course, all this does is continue the left-right divide because the Democrats immediately say, oh, we were wrong-sided.
They're saying we were, you know, we haven't gotten to release our report.
We're going to change this report entirely.
It doesn't matter.
The networks didn't cover it.
They covered it for like a minute.
They gave it full coverage.
Molly Hemingway, who I usually love, was saying, oh, this is very important.
It clears Trump.
It doesn't clear Trump.
It obviously is, it's a political move.
It's a political move saying we're not getting anywhere.
It's going to be a politicized partisan operation.
So why keep doing it?
Really, it's the Bob Mueller thing that happens.
The most concise and nuanced and intelligent and restrained commentary came from Phil Mudd on CNN.
Here he is, cut three.
Most of what the U.S. intelligence community concluded in January of last year, but they don't accept the conclusion that Putin actually was trying to help Trump win the election.
Can you tell me why, why they say that?
They just told us that they conducted an investigation, including interviews, where the interviewees chose not to answer questions.
How the heck can they say they got to the bottom of this when they didn't interview people because people came to the table and said, we're not answering.
Second question, two parts of any investigation, interviews and technical information.
Is there any evidence that they had the capability to look at phone, email, text, financial records, the same stuff Robert Mueller's looking at?
I saw no evidence of that.
Third question, their primary responsibility was not determining culpability for wrongdoing in the last election.
That's Robert Mueller.
Their responsibility was not to represent party, Democrat or Republican, but to represent people.
How do we protect the next election?
The last 30 minutes, Wolf, you give me one sentence where somebody spoke about how they're going to protect us instead of saying this is why the other party did something wrong.
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If this report were written on toilet paper, I wouldn't stoop to wipe my ass with it.
These people owe us more.
Phil is losing his mind.
I wouldn't wipe my ass with it.
That's the way you turn to CNN.
You really, but that's why they say you get to the bottom of things, I guess.
Unbelievable, unbelievable.
So this has solved nothing and has changed nothing because we're all seeing different things.
I mean, when they hate you the way they hate you, they cannot see anything.
You cannot have a conversation with them.
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So Rex Tillerson has been fired, right?
And I have to say, this is one of the stuff.
I cannot support Donald Trump.
And he fired him in a tweet.
Tillerson said he had no idea.
He reads the tweet, you're fired.
I mean, that's no way to treat people.
It is no way to treat people.
And it's one of the things that makes it hard.
You know, even though I'm not going to cede an inch to the left over Donald Trump's policies, which have been really excellent, behavior like that does make it hard.
You know, it makes it hard to give him your full support.
You don't fire a guy like that.
But the thing about Rex Tillerson is he was somehow Tillerson and Trump just never hit it off.
Maybe they're both kind of the same person.
They're both these big businessmen who think a lot of themselves and they're both kind of alpha types.
And they just bumped into each other and they somehow, Tillerson never got the ear of Donald Trump, so he got rid of him because he can't be an effective Secretary of State without doing it.
Mike Pompeo, brilliant guy, good guy.
I like him.
I think he is a step up.
And he talked about, Trump talked about why Tillerson was fired as he was talking to reporters as cut to.
Rex and I have been talking about this for a long time.
We got along actually quite well, but we disagreed on things.
When you look at the Iran deal, I think it's terrible.
I guess it was okay.
I wanted to either break it or do something, and he felt a little bit differently.
So we were not really thinking the same.
So this has been going on a long time and they've never, and he's absolutely right, they've never really made it together.
And how can you be Secretary of State?
How can people negotiate with you if they don't think you have the ear of the President of the United States?
It doesn't really work.
The timing, I have to say, was a little bit bad.
There is a story going on in Britain that is a genuinely bad story.
A spy who had been, he was a double agent, he was a Soviet spy, but he was a double agent.
And we traded him for some spies that we, the Americans, had caught.
He went to live in England with his daughter, and he was poisoned.
He's still alive, but he's in critical condition.
He was poisoned with his daughter by a nerve agent that was only made by the Russians.
And they're supposed to have dumped these things, but of course they never did.
And Theresa May, there's been the Prime Minister of England, of Great Britain, they have done the research.
They've identified this poison.
They know pretty much that the Russians did it.
Here's Theresa May talking in the parliament.
It is highly likely that Russia was responsible for the act against Sergei and Yulia Skripow.
Mr. Speaker, there are therefore only two plausible explanations.
Either this was a direct act by the Russian state against our country, or the Russian government lost control of its potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent.
I have to say, by the way, I mean, Putin, this is one of the reasons that people attack Trump because he's not harder on Putin personally.
Trump's policies have been very tough on Russia.
If only his full throttle acquisition of energy, of oil and gas, which is the only thing that keeps Russia moving, the only thing they have.
They don't have any business.
They don't have any capitalism.
They don't have the stuff that makes a country.
All they have is the oil that they're selling to the rest of the world.
So if we bring the price of oil down and we become a major supplier to the EU, Putin loses all his power.
So Trump is really undermining the guy, but he will never attack him personally.
And Putin is a thug and a murderer.
And Russia is such a tragedy.
It is such a tragedy.
You know, did you ever see the movie Room?
You ever see the film Room?
It's a very touching movie.
I liked it.
It's based on a novel.
And it's about one of these women who is kidnapped by one of these madmen and stuck in a room.
And he just comes in and sexually abuses her, sexually uses her.
And she gets pregnant and she has a little boy.
And when we join the story, she's in the room with her son, whom she loves, and she has taught him that the room is the world.
And when she sees a chance to escape, she has to explain to him the room is not the world.
There's an actual world out there, and everything she's told him is a lie.
And he rebels.
He says, no, you know, this is the room.
The room is everything.
That's Russia.
That is Russia.
They were surrounded by this philosophy.
They were told that they were heroically going into the future with communism.
It was bringing the new paradise.
They had values.
They knew what virtue was.
Virtue was to support this vision.
They knew why they were suffering, why they weren't getting materials.
They knew why people were being killed by Stalin.
It was all to support this vision.
And then one day, boom, it fell apart and turned out the world is not the room.
The world is not communism.
Socialism doesn't work.
Communism doesn't work.
All the things they were taught were wrong.
And you say to them, great, now you're free.
You're out of the room.
Well, in the movie, that might work.
But in real life, people just felt as if the entire fabric of reality and morality had been stripped away from them.
And so for a moment there, they looked like they were going to be free.
There were some freedom fighters in the streets.
Boris Yelson was just not the guy.
He was a drunk and he wasn't fully committed to the vision of a new democratic republic of Russia.
He couldn't pull it off.
Putin just moved in and he played his cards perfectly.
He is a ex-KGB guy.
He knew that people hated the Jews.
He knew they had that old religious sense.
He played on all the old religious prejudices they had.
He brought the conspiracy idea.
He understood.
He understood not to imitate the Soviets by silencing the news.
What he did was he basically, what's the word I'm looking for, castrated the news.
He basically, it looks as if you can get news in Russia, but you can't.
It's really, they'll tell you an honest story simply to sell Putin propaganda.
And basically he sold off, he sold off, and Russia sold off all the state's assets that the communists had acquired.
They sold them off.
They auctioned them off to gangsters and they gave them away.
So now you have these Russian billionaires, these oligarchs, but everybody else is back where they were, basically, and they have no freedom.
And Putin will reach out and kill you dead wherever you are.
And that is what happened in Britain.
It deserves the deepest condemnation.
You know, Trump should definitely come out and hammer them.
And Sarah Sanders, after Theresa May made that statement, she came out and it was a little weeks-aw.
She says, we're going to support him, but she repeatedly refused to name Russia and blame them.
Here she is.
We've been monitoring the incident closely, take it very seriously.
The use of a highly lethal nerve agent against UK citizens on UK soil is an outrage.
The attack was reckless, indiscriminate, and irresponsible.
We offer the fullest condemnation and we extend our sympathy to the victims and their families and our support to the UK government.
We stand by our closest ally in the special relationship that we have.
So you're not saying that Russia was behind us?
Right now, we are standing with our UK ally.
I think they're still working through even some of the details of that.
And we're going to continue to work with the UK and we certainly stand with them throughout this process.
Theresa May chose either Russia using it themselves or that it'll give its chemical weapons to a third party to murder a British citizen, the latter being highly unlikely given the nature of this weapon.
Like I just said, Zeke, we stand with our ally and we certainly fully support them and are ready if we can be of any assistance to them.
So Tillerson, so that was pretty weak because obviously the Brits have the Russians or Theresa May would not be saying that out in parliament.
She said either they poisoned them or they've lost control of one of the most dangerous nerve agents on earth.
Tillerson said, I have full confidence in the UK's investigation.
It's an assessment that Russia was likely responsible for the nerve agent attack.
And we agree that those responsible, both those who committed the crime and those who ordered it, must face appropriately serious consequences.
And the next moment, there's a tweet, you're fired.
And that just doesn't look good.
Listen, I actually believe, I actually believe the Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee that there was no collusion by either the Clinton campaign or the Trump campaign.
They both did things that link back to Russia.
They both had meetings they shouldn't have had.
They both used, they used the steel dossier in ways.
The Clinton campaign used the steel dossiers in ways that were wrong.
I think the Justice Department used it in ways that were wrong.
But I don't think either of them, really, I don't, said, oh, I know Russia is trying to help do this.
I'm going to help them out.
That would be what collusion would be like.
They may have not always acted as we would hope they would act, but I just don't believe this.
I believe this story is a basic conspiracy theory cooked up by Clinton and Obama supporters to delegitimize Donald Trump.
I do not think he deserves that, but I do think that he ought to start to understand who Vladimir Putin is.
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We have Christian Toto coming up.
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All right, Christian, are you there?
I'm here.
All right, because we don't have you on visual today.
I don't know what they said.
They said you looked green.
I told them that's just the way you look.
I'm auditioning for a Herman Munster reboot.
So I didn't mention, but I will mention that Christian has a website called Hollywood in Toto.
It's just spelled the way it sounds at Hollywoodintoto.com.
It's an excellent movie site, one of the very few knowledgeable conservative movie sites.
You can find him on Twitter at Hollywood in Toto.
And it's always good to talk to you because you're one of the few conservatives who actually know something about the movie.
So it's, so I always appreciate it.
So I want to ask you about this excellent piece you did about the sense of decency in Hollywood.
But before that, I think we should just talk briefly about the Oscars.
Did you watch the show at all?
You know, people say, oh, you review films for a living.
How cool is that?
I say, yeah, but I have to sit through the Oscars each year.
Each year it gets worse and worse.
And I think this was the all-time low just from a pure lack of entertainment point of view.
But I have to say, the fact that Shape of Water, which is a nice movie, but nothing more, won the best picture, you know, it is sci-fi.
It is weird.
It is romantic.
It is bizarro.
So I give the voters a little bit of credit for kind of going outside the Oscar mold.
It's not a biopic.
It's not a message movie from a sheer standpoint.
But otherwise, just, you know, listen, we knew all the awardees would win.
We saw the 16 other awards celebrations.
And it was woke on steroids.
I mean, I couldn't believe it was almost a parody of what you feared the Oscars would be.
And I just sat there, my mouth was agape.
They have become a parody of themselves.
It is wonderful.
I mean, I was playing earlier before you came on, I was playing that Hillary Clinton thing about how awful all the people who didn't vote for her are.
And they really are living in that world.
They're living in the world where everywhere, and everyone who disagrees with them is basically evil.
I mean, it has not occurred to them that people might have good and fully reasoned arguments against what they stand for.
You talk about, you wrote this article.
Let me read.
I'm just going to read just a very brief bit from this article about Hollywood losing its sense of decency.
This is at Hollywoodintoto.com.
Confrontational, condescending, dismissive, sometimes even hateful.
So much of what we hear out of liberal Hollywood these days is invective we wouldn't expect from anyone in our lives, friend or foe.
Yet it's coming from folks whose very livelihoods depend on us supporting them.
We indirectly pay their bills and they can't stop insulting large swaths of us.
So let's start with this.
Give me some examples of what you're talking about.
Well, you know, let's go with a couple.
You know, a lot of times it's based on Twitter.
And I think that Twitter has been a horrible thing for actors because, listen, it can spread the word about the new projects.
I get it from a marketing point of view, but it really does kind of pull the curtain aside and let us see who they really are.
You know, Bette Midler saying she wished Rand Paul's neighbor, you know, returned fire, so to speak, just so he wouldn't vote on the budget.
You know, John Cusack calling the GOP a death cult.
You know, just absolute hatred from stars at top one after the other.
And then there's, of course, the media quotes like Jennifer Lawrence saying she wants to throw a martini in Trump's face.
Robert De Niro can't stop saying he wants to punch Trump in the face.
You know, SNL said it in at live saying that not just Trump is a racist, but his fans are racist too.
It just goes on and on and on.
Johnny Depp saying, wouldn't it be interesting if another actor took out a president?
It's an unbelievable array.
And this is after the Sarah Silvermans and Louis C.K., whatever happened to him, by the way, called Trump Hitler.
It goes on and on.
And I mean, I have a special list on Twitter for all the celebrities, and reading it is brutal.
It's hate, it's invective.
Ron Perlman has gone off the rails, the great actor from Sons of Anarchy is so anti-Trump.
It's just, you could just see it consuming his soul.
And I'm thinking, you know, there are good people in Hollywood, but they're getting drowned out by all these really nasty voices.
And it doesn't seem to occur to them.
As you say, they are dependent on us for their livelihoods.
It doesn't seem to occur to them that when you call Trump Hitler, that's calling us the German people when they would become Nazis.
It's basically calling all his supporters Nazis.
Why?
What's going on?
When did they lose?
How did they lose their sense of proportion?
And how did they lose their sense that maybe they were here to entertain us?
Trump broke them.
I think it's plain and simple.
I think they expected another four years of Obama-like policies.
They wanted to get Hillary Clinton installed.
It didn't happen.
And it wasn't just any old GOP president.
It was Donald Trump who offends them on so many visceral levels.
I mean, I think it's the same thing that's happening with journalism.
Trump broke journalists.
There are people who you used to like, you used to respect.
He would say, you know what, I don't know if I agree with them all the time, but they kind of bring their reviews to you in a very responsible, sober way.
Now it's off the rails.
And I think the same thing is happening with Hollywood.
They haven't bounced back.
It's been well over a year.
It's time to kind of put your kids to bed, go to work, punch the clock, and get things done and stop obsessing about the news cycle 24-7.
But they can't.
They can't do it.
Bill Whittle has this comment that movie stars become famous playing conservatives and then they go weirdly liberal.
So in other words, they become famous by playing police officers, by playing soldiers, by playing kind of conservative icons, people who use guns, and then suddenly it's like, oh, we hate the military, we hate the police, we hate guns.
Do they never, I mean, they're supposed to be actors.
They're supposed to involve themselves in their roles.
Does nothing rub off on them?
Is there no way?
Why have they lost their connection with ordinary people, with their audience?
I mean, besides Trump, how did they lose contact with us, the rest of us?
Well, it's a couple of interesting things.
One is if you had an actor and he or she was cast as a monster, a villain, a serial killer, the first thing that actor will tell you is, I know he or she is a horrible human being, but I needed to get into the soul.
I needed to empathize with this character.
They don't seem to be able to do that with their audience.
And that's amazing to me.
But, you know, the answer, I think, is simple, even though it's cliché, it's the bubble.
They live in a life where they get all their views sort of, you know, mirrored back at them.
They don't get opposing views.
And I think a great example of this is Jennifer Lawrence, who when she broke onto the scene, she was beautiful.
She was talented.
She was like the girl next door.
She was kind of aweshed.
You mean I'm a movie star?
This is an Oscar?
You're giving this to me?
She was wonderful.
She was refreshing.
And now she is so incredibly full of herself in just a few short years where she thinks she has to pontificate on politics to change the world.
She thinks she's going to change the political system.
Meanwhile, when you listen to her speak, she's not very bright.
She's an intellectual actress.
Yeah, I take nothing away from her ability.
I thought she was very good in Red Sparrow.
But I think there's a good example of how things change and how things change so quickly, is that they're in that ecosystem and nothing else can kind of penetrate that bubble.
Yeah.
She also does a nude scene in Red Sparrow, so I forgive her for everything.
I'm a simple, shallow man, Christian.
Now, there's this new thing going on in Hollywood, and the Oscars are a perfect example of it, where Will Smith didn't get nominated for a picture nobody saw.
His wife said, oh, it's because he's black, which is absurd.
He was the last, until that moment, he was the last star in Hollywood.
And now this quota system has taken hold.
And I know that agents are now getting calls.
Oh, we need a black female writer.
We need, you know, a woman director for this.
We need a black star for this.
They have to have, even they were talking about this, what it was, a diversity rider or something like this, where you have to have diverse people.
Instead of hiring people for their talent, you're hiring people for the color of their skin.
It seems to me that that is death to art.
I mean, am I wrong?
Is that going to destroy what's left of the movie business?
Or is that, or am I overreacting?
I think it's an overreaction slightly, but I do agree.
You know, for every Ryan Kugler, who's a terrific director, he's behind Black Panther and Creed, and he happens to be black.
There are going to be other directors of color who maybe don't have that skill set.
So when they're handed a huge project, if it fails and Hollywood goes, oh, we tried the diversity thing.
It didn't work.
Instead of being genuinely open to all people, all genders, and saying, hey, we want the best of the best, they're going to kind of go this other route.
And I think it's going to hurt the product and hurt kind of the connection that they have with their diversity mission because they do have problems.
If you look at how many women direct the films, it's a very, very small number.
There are issues in Hollywood that need to be addressed.
But going this path, I think, is going to be damaging to the mission.
Because it is interesting.
Like during the 70s, this new crop of stars came up, Dustin Hoffman and Al Pacino and Robert De Niro, who looked suddenly different.
They looked like the people who had immigrated during the first part of the 20th century.
But it took them a long time to start to have stars who looked like Italians, who looked like Jews, who didn't look like blonde, you know, wasps.
But eventually they came up, and it wasn't because they said you have to hire us.
It was basically because the times changed and their talent overrode everything.
I just think, you know, it's funny if they would stop thinking that we're all racist, they would stop pushing themselves in our faces.
It makes you upset when they say, oh, yeah, I'm going to hire this guy because he's black.
Then you think, yeah, well, I'm not going to go to your movie because I'm white.
How's that sound?
I think if they would just let these guys rise on their natural talents, it would actually happen.
All right, let me, I got to go, but let me ask you, is there anything coming up that you're looking forward to?
Well, you know, a couple movies out now I was pleasantly surprised by.
One was Game Night with Jason Bateman.
Huh, okay.
Very funny black comedy.
It gets silly toward the end, so expect that.
But I laughed a lot.
Some good, solid lines.
Also, Deathwish.
I was really kind of dreading that one because I just thought it was pushed around the schedule a bit.
You know, does Bruce Willis still have it?
And he does sleepwalk through the first third of the movie, although I think it's maybe a creative choice.
But it is a crowd pleaser.
I saw it in a theater and the crowd had a visceral reaction to some of the vigilante antics.
So listen, ignore the 99% of liberal critics who lost their minds blasting the film.
It is a genre movie, and as such, it's quite good.
So check out that as well.
All right.
Thanks a lot.
Christian Toto at Hollywoodintoto.com or on Twitter at HollywoodIntoto.
It's always good talking to you, Christian.
I'm sorry we're out of time, but you'll come back.
No worries.
Thanks so much.
Thanks a lot.
All right.
sexual follies.
So there's an article out, I think it was on a, it had some weird title of the website, but it's called a hundred easy ways to make women's lives more bearable because women's lives are so unbearable.
And it's by Danny Beckett, Danny Girlspell, D-I-N-I Beckett.
You know, I was going to do a whole funny article about this, but my daughter beat me to it.
So if you want to read her take on it, Faith Moore over at PJ Media, she went on again about this.
But I have to read this because it's everything that is wrong with feminism packed into just this little angry, nasty, mean article from Danny Beckett.
She says, every year I wake up on March 8th to a flurry of tweets from men wishing me a happy International Women's Day.
Oh, I forgot to send that one.
She didn't hear from me this year.
But she says, and every year I find myself thinking, well, thanks.
But is that it?
Is that all the support for gender equality that you can muster for the entire year?
And then she goes on and gives you 100 ways to make women's lives more bearable because I think she's British, but I know in Britain and America, women's lives are just so unbearable.
It's unbearable to be female.
So here are some of her suggestions, possibly with some of my answers.
Number one, before explaining something to a woman, ask yourself if she might already understand.
She may know more about it than you do.
See, Danny, let me explain this to you.
This is why women don't know anything because they get offended when you explain it to them.
Number two, never ever try to explain feminism to a woman.
I wouldn't try to explain feminism to anyone because it's completely irrational.
Three, trans women are women.
Repeat that until you perish.
Danny, cutes, love, love.
Let me explain this to you.
Please, sit, listen.
Saying something false over and over again doesn't actually make it true.
That just doesn't happen.
You probably don't know that because you're a woman.
Four, respect people's pronouns.
It's not hard.
My response to that is, ah, shut up.
Five, forever.
Remember that fat women exist and aren't all trying to get thin.
Treat them with respect.
I do treat them with respect until they're not looking.
Six, in fact, just never comment on a woman's body.
Danny, you are cute when you're mad.
Here's another one.
If you read stories to a child, swap the genders.
Yes, because it's really fun to turn your children into psychopaths.
Trust women when they teach you something.
Don't feel the need to go and check for yourself.
Especially do not Google it in front of them.
See, that's women hate when you prove they're wrong because they're irrational.
And finally, examine your language when talking about women.
Get rid of words like irrational, bossy, and badgering.
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Danny, I can make your life more bearable with one piece of advice.
Stop being like this.
You're irrational, bossy, and badgering.
You're totally.
And you know, this is what is wrong with feminism: they hate the way men behave.
So they imitate the way men behave and they think it's okay because they're women.
They look at men who are aggressive and arrogant and overbearing and nasty.
And they say, oh, well, I'm a nasty woman.
I'm an overbearing woman.
I'm strong.
You're a jerk.
You're a jerk.
It doesn't matter.
A man acts like that.
He's a jerk.
You act like that.
You're a jerk.
Your life would be much more bearable and people would like you a lot more if you'd stop talking to them like that.
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Right now we're angry and sad.
It's our right to get righteously mad.
Every member of the opposite sex.
Oh, God, we hate them.
That's what I'm saying.
Let's not distinguish between them at all.
Let's just drink a lot more alcohol.
And then hype bite each other as we make a bunch of blanket statements.
Let's generalize about men.
Let's generalize about men.
Let's take one bad thing about one man and apply it to all of them.
Let's conflate all the guys.
Let's generalize about men.
All men are completely repressed.
All men only want to have sex.
There are no exceptions.
All three billion men are like this.
All 3.6 billion men.
All men are emotionally stunted.
Asked how they feel.
Every man's always grunted.
Why do men never listen and only think about themselves?
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