Ep. 426’s The REAL FBI Story exposes Peter Strzok’s alleged bias—altering Clinton’s "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless"—while tying him to the Russia probe and Steele dossier, sparking debates on FBI partisanship. Andrew Clavin contrasts Pelosi’s hyperbolic tax-cut warnings (like Summers’ disputed 10,000-death claim) with NIH data, framing redistribution vs. charity as a historical power struggle. Lauren Southern critiques multiculturalism, citing Vancouver’s segregated Chinese enclaves and Merkel’s immigration regrets, while rejecting feminism’s push for career-driven women, linking traditional roles to happiness studies like Murray’s Coming Apart. The episode also dissects London’s post-immigration security fears (Fortress City) and Trump’s Roy Moore endorsement dilemma, arguing voters outperform elites in navigating moral complexities. [Automatically generated summary]
On today's episode, we meet courageous anti-Trump FBI agent Peter Strzok, the man who is fired from the Mueller investigation and who started the FBI's Russia probe and who led the investigation into Hillary Clinton's email and now turns out is also the man who changed the FBI's description of Clinton's handling of classified documents from grossly negligent,
which is a felony carrying serious jail time, to extremely careless, which is just naughty and causes you to be sent to bed without milk and cookies.
Further investigation shows that it was Strzz who during the FBI's investigation into Alf Capone's tax dodges changed the description of Capone from withholding taxes to disguise a murderous organized crime syndicate to a little too free with his itemized deductions.
It was also Strzz who changed the FBI's description of Attila the Hun from raping and pillaging an entire continent to engaging in cultural outreach.
And of course, it was Strzzok who changed the FBI's description of the Emperor Nero from he fiddled while Rome burned to he provided musical entertainment around a cozy fire.
The process of redrafting FBI documents has now become known as Strzoking.
That's spelled S-T-R-Z-O-K.
The Z is silent, and so is the FBI.
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You know, all of these stories are coming together in my head and around the idea of the war on Christmas, because a lot of people are talking about the war on Christmas.
I'm not going to go on to the war on Christmas, but the story of the tax reform and the hysterical, the hysterical Democrat reaction to having slightly lower taxes for the middle class and good taxes for corporations to bring jobs back.
I mean, it's kind of a typical Republican thing.
It's what you expect.
It's why we vote for these guys, so they'll cut our taxes.
And they just, if you don't think they're hysterical, listen to Nancy Pelosi answer the question.
Somebody says to her, it's just a tax cut, right?
Listen to her answer.
Is it really what's going on is that many people are getting a very modest tax cut and some people are getting a tax increase while a lot of this is also going to business, but it's not the end of the world.
No, it is the end of the world.
Healthcare, the debate on healthcare is life-death.
This is Armageddon.
This is a very big deal.
Because you know why?
There's really a very hard way to come back from this.
They take us further, more deeply into debt.
What can you do but raise taxes?
They contend that their gift to corporate America of a trillion and a half dollars could be up to a trillion and a half dollars will be paid for by the growth it creates.
And even their own people say, nonsense, not true.
Not true.
So let's be truthful with the American people about that.
They throw a few crumbs to the middle class, what they give with one hand, they take away in bounty with the other.
It's very tough to come back from this because whoever heard of the government raising taxes?
It's like, once you cut taxes, they can never, ever raise taxes again.
My favorite was this guy, Larry Summers, used to work for Obama.
He wrote an op-ed saying that 10,000 people will die because of these tax cuts.
Here's his cut.
Look, I think this bill is very dangerous.
There's pretty clear evidence looking across different states and looking when health insurance has been phased in and out.
When people lose health insurance, they're less likely to get preventive care.
They're more likely to defer health care they need, and ultimately they're more likely to die.
And it's very hard to quantify precisely.
My piece explains why an estimate that thousands will die as a consequence of this bill is actually a very conservative estimate, done much, much more carefully based on much more rigorous evidence than the absurd claims made by some that this bill will somehow pay for itself.
This is not true, by the way.
The National Institute of Health did a study, and they said there was absolutely no way to justify this as there's little evidence to suggest that extending insurance coverage to all adults would have a large effect on the number of deaths in the United States.
You know, the rate of death is still 100%.
So I think it's not going to have any effect on that whatsoever.
Hey, I just want to pause for a minute because I forgot to say that Lauren Southern is going to be on the show, excellent YouTube star.
We had a really good conversation.
It's a pre-recorded interview, but it's a really good conversation about feminism and the alt-right.
But, you know, here's the thing.
The question is, like, they basically feel that you can't live without the government.
The government has to have all this money because you can't even breathe.
You can't even go on breathing without the government.
You need the government to just pump your heart and all this.
It's the life of Julia, remember?
She needed every, from the minute she was born to the minute she died, she needed the government to do all this stuff.
And all these people, I especially like Patton Oswald, the comedian who kind of went nuts over this and said it's the end of America.
And then he sent out a threat.
He said, I'm going to take the money that I get from my tax cut and I'm going to give it to liberal causes.
And all the conservatives said, great, that's your choice.
You don't need the government to give charity.
And this question about giving charity, the first thing they do is they say, would Jesus do this?
Would Jesus cut taxes?
And it's actually kind of an interesting question because it is what we're talking about, is what the war on Christmas is all about.
It's all of this is about basically who is in charge of giving charity and who is in charge of taking care of the poor.
Because there is nowhere you can go through every line of the gospel and you will not find a place where Jesus says, give other people's money to the poor.
There's no place where he says, take people's money away and give it to the poor.
It doesn't happen.
But, but to give the liberal side their due, there are places where nations are judged for not being charitable.
So we all agree that as a nation, we have to be charitable.
What we don't agree is who gets to do it.
And this is the question that constantly runs through everything, every aspect of Western civilization from the beginning.
I mean, it basically is an invention of Christianity that's an extrapolation of Jewish thought.
Because remember, the Jews, when they first found God, when they were first found by God, they lived without government.
It was just God was their government.
And then one day they said, no, you know, we want a king.
We want to be as powerful as all the other nations.
And they got a king, and God said, okay, well, God said, they're abandoning me for a king.
And then he chose Saul and he didn't work out and he chose David and that became a big, their moment of empire.
And so the Jews constantly thought, well, that was so great that now that our empire has fallen and we've gone into the Babylonian captivity, one day, one day, David is going to come back and a king is going to come back.
And he did, but he was not the king that a lot of people were expecting.
It was a different kind of king, an entirely unearthly king, who then started to say, who said, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God.
And that conversation has defined the West.
I mean, if you go back and read through the history of the Middle Ages, it is all arguments between popes and emperors and kings about who gets to choose, who gets to choose the clergy, who crowns the king, who decides that the king is in fact blessed by God, who populates the church.
Clergy, can Henry VIII get divorced?
Does he have to get rid of the Pope to get divorced?
These are all the things that defined this struggle.
And it's now, right now, the Supreme Court is listening to an exact replica of this argument in this case about the masterpiece cake shop, where a gay couple went into this cake shop in Colorado and they asked for a wedding cake.
And the guy was a Christian.
He said, look, he serves gay people all the time, but he couldn't bake a cake for a gay wedding because he believes a wedding is between a man and a woman.
Peter Strzok's Controversy00:06:59
Silly him.
I don't know where he got that idea, but somehow he got that crazy idea came into his head that a marriage is between a man and a woman.
He didn't want to participate in this.
And the state is basically saying, no, you have to do this because everybody has to do it.
So we're not singling you out.
And what he is saying is, this is my art.
He's even called masterpiece cakes.
He says, this is my expression of myself, and you are basically violating the First Amendment.
And he has an argument that as a Christian, he has refused to do cakes with dirty words on it and things like this.
So he's saying this is the same thing.
And so this is what we're arguing about.
This is why this FBI story is to me so fascinating.
I mean, it's why, because we're arguing whether we do things or the government does things, and who does the better?
We all want to take care of the poor.
We all know the poor have to be taken care of.
And we know that's our Christian duty.
That's why we know it's our Judeo-Christian duty.
But who is going to do it?
So you're looking at the FBI, and the FBI is investigating, has been investigating Trump and investigating Hillary before that.
And this story is unbelievable.
I mean, the FBI has been a dubious organization from the very beginning.
Make no mistake about this.
They have sold themselves.
That show that I started off with, the Ephraim Zimbablis Jr., was only like the latest of their attempts to sell themselves as the great clean-cut all-American operations, J. Edgar Hoover.
And what J. Edgar Hoover was doing, when I was a newspaper man, I worked in a county where there was a sheriff.
And what the sheriff would do is he would have his guys, there was a lot of DWI, a lot of drinking and driving, because you had to have a car to get everywhere.
Everyone would get drunk.
They'd drive home.
Cop would pull you over.
But if you were important, you wouldn't get a ticket.
But now he had this on you, that you did this, right?
So he had the citation, but you didn't have to do anything about it.
Just if he needed something, if he needed a vote, he would come.
And that's what J. Edgar Hoover used to do.
J. Edgar Hoover had a movie made by a famous Hollywood director, Mervyn Leroy, called The FBI Story.
And it was 1959, I think it was.
It may have been a little earlier than that.
But he was selling the FBI to the public.
Jimmy Stewart, the all-American actor, right?
His name was like Chip or something in this thing.
And in order, and Mervyn Leroy was, Jay Edgar Hoover was a conservative, was J. Edgar Hoover's pal.
Before Hoover would give approval that the movie could be made, he had Mervyn Leroy investigated, and he said, We've got enough dirt on him now where we can control him.
This was his pal.
This is how he treated his friends.
We've got enough dirt on him so we can control him, so I know the movie will be the way I want.
And in fact, he would have Leroy reshoot scenes and rewrite scenes to get him the way they wanted.
Let's just play the theatrical trailer, the beginning of the theatrical trailer.
The FBI has been selling this image of itself for years and years.
This is a fellow named Chip Hardesty.
To see him walking on a street, or in the familiar routines of a family man, or even in the daily pursuit of his job, you might not pick him out as something special.
But there is something special about Chip Hardesty.
So special, a whole big, tremendously exciting motion picture has been made about him and men like him.
So special, it has been given this proud and distinguished seal.
This is the official shield of the FBI.
Now, for the first time, you'll see the real, the authentic, the fascinating inside story of the FBI.
I don't think I've ever seen so many white people together in my life.
The thing that's really funny about it is if you couldn't see it, if you're just listening to the show, they have all these intercut scenes of Jimmy Stewart doing different things, being with his family.
One of them is intercut from a Jimmy Stewart Western from an entirely different movie, and you see a horse moving by in the background.
It's like, what was that about?
Anyway, this is the way the FBI has been selling themselves for all these years, but it just ain't so.
You have to listen to this story of this guy, Peter Strzzok.
I'm just going to lay this out because it's beyond belief.
It really is.
He's the lead investigator on the Mueller probe, right?
He's one A lead investigator on the Mueller probe, Peter Strzzok.
And he was demoted in August after it was discovered that he sent anti-Trump texts to his mistress.
We don't know what was in the anti-Trump text, but he sent them to his mistress.
Now, his mistress was an FBI lawyer, Lisa Page, who worked for Andrew McCabe, okay?
Now, if you don't remember, Andrew McCabe was the guy whose wife was running for the state senate in Virginia and had received money from the Clintons.
And McCabe is still being investigated for whether he had conflict of interest in the Clinton investigation.
So this is all these Clintonistas investigating the Clintons.
And Mueller covered up the demotion of Strzzok.
He didn't tell anybody about it.
And the House Intelligence Committee was sending him subpoenas and demanding that they get to interview Strzok, and he wouldn't do it.
They stonewalled them for months.
So this was like August.
So now it's what, December, August, September, October, November.
It's like four or five months.
You know, he's been stonewalling them.
Finally, finally, when they were moving in on them, they finally planted stories, basically, in the New York Times and the Washington Post that were very, very pro-Mueller.
The slant on them was, oh, isn't Mueller honest that he fired this guy off the investigation?
So once they set up that narrative, then they said, oh yeah, you can talk to him.
I mean, it's four or five months that they've been subpoenaing him.
The Devin Nunes on the House Intelligence Committee was threatening to hold them in contempt.
I mean, they just couldn't hold, they couldn't stonewall anymore.
So they finally said, oh yeah, here's Strzzok.
So Strzzok is James Comey's, one of, he was Comey's chief lieutenant, right?
He's the guy who started the investigation probe.
His signature is on the Russia probe investigation, the paper that starts that investigation.
So he's also tied up with the big question of whether the steel dossier, this one about, you know, with all this dirt on Trump that's supposed to probably be from Putin, basically, Putin planning dirt on Trump, he's the one who knows whether that was the reason they started all these investigations.
But Strzok also led the investigation into Hillary's email, and he's the guy that I was joking around about.
He was the guy who made that change.
Remember when Comey came out and he made that completely unprecedented statement about, oh yeah, this is what Hillary Clinton did, and it was bad, but we're not going to prosecute her.
It was Strzok who changed the wording from grossly negligent, and she was grossly negligent, which was the description of the crime, to extremely careless, which, as I say, is just like, you know, anybody can be extremely careless.
Jim Comey's Unprecedented Move00:06:06
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I just want to finish up on this thing about the FBI because all this stuff that you're hearing from the Democrats about the sacred—sacreositude of the FBI is complete— It's complete malarkey.
Because just go back and remember.
Let me make sure I get these cuts right because go back and remember first he cleared Clinton.
He cleared Hillary Clinton.
Comey cleared Hillary Clinton and suddenly they love Jim Comey.
Man, oh man, they love Jim Comey.
So this was cut number 10.
There was an extensive, as you know, Brad, investigation by the FBI under the direction of a wonderful and tough career public servant, Jim Comey.
This is a great man.
We are very privileged in our country to have him be the director of the FBI.
No one can question the integrity, the competence.
And he's somebody with the highest standards of integrity.
Okay, then Comey reopened the investigation into the Clinton emails.
And here is the Democrat reaction then.
This is cut nine.
Comey acted in an outrageous way.
I think he should take a hard look at what he has done.
And I think it would not be a bad thing for the American people if he did step down.
Do you believe that Jim Comey should resign, Senator Reed?
Of course.
Did you want to see him gone?
So it's absolutely true that Democrats have been very critical of James Comey, and many of us did call for his resignation.
Hard to be a director of such an important institution when that trust is no longer there.
Can you tell us anything about it?
No, it's classified, and we can't tell you anything.
All I can tell you is the FBI director has no credibility.
FBI directed not to send the letter.
Comey ignored the warning and sent that letter to Lommy.
He even released internal FBI memos and interview notes.
I may have missed this, but in my 42 years here, I've never seen anything like that.
I just want to conclude with somebody took those and lined them up.
Because next, what happened was Trump fired Comey, right?
So now somebody just lined up the comments of the Democrats after the comments of the Democrats after Comey went after Clinton, so they were angry, and put them next to the same Democrats commenting after Trump fired him.
The president ought to fire Comey immediately, and he ought to initiate an investigation.
He can't just fire Comey.
Oh, yes, he can.
It is clear that the motive to this firing was to stop an investigation that the president feared.
This is the equivalent or worse than the Saturday night massacre by President Nixon.
Well, I was appalled by what Director Comey did.
He owes not only Secretary Clinton, but the American people, an explanation for what appears to be an appalling action.
President Trump called me and informed me he was firing Director Comey.
I told the president, Mr. President, with all due respect, you are making a big mistake.
And the FBI has been compromised by Jim Comey because of how politically it acted with regard to this investigation and the Clinton investigation.
It would be inappropriate for you to fire the head of the FBI when the FBI is investigating your campaign by extension your White House.
All I can tell you is the FBI director has no credibility.
The President of the United States should not have done this in the middle of an investigation.
Why The Young Are Watching00:14:58
So let me ask you this.
If that is your government and the FBI is your government, who do you think should be giving money to charity?
Who do you think should be in control of the money that you earn?
Is it the apocalypse when you take money away from these people?
How much money should they have?
I'm guessing 50 bucks, 100 bucks bus fare to take them back home.
I mean, come on.
What is their argument that they should be in control of anything?
All right, let's bring on Lauren Southern.
She's a Canadian.
I don't know how she became so intelligent and insightful being a Canadian, but she did.
She wrote the book, Barbarians, How Baby Boomers, Immigrants, and Islam Screwed My Generation.
She rose to fame first at Rebel Media with, I'm on there.
They interview me all the time.
There's Rebel Media, Ezra Levant.
Yeah.
And she is now, she even ran for office.
She's done all these kind of pranks where she has gone on to what does she do?
She went to a feminist march and declared herself.
She had herself declared a man.
That's what she did.
Yes, I'm sorry.
And she always puts all these things up, why she's not a feminist and all this stuff.
She was in England shooting a documentary, Fortress City, about the changing face of London since mass terrorism.
Let's play the interview.
Lauren, thank you for being here.
Thank you for having me.
So let's just start with you because I'm always interested in the journey that people take to get to a place where they are basically at war with the mainstream.
I mean, whenever you take the positions you've taken, it's going to get you in trouble with the mainstream.
So I'm always interested in how people got there.
Did you start out as, I'll call you a conservative.
I know you're kind of conservative libertarian.
Did you start out there or did you have to take that trip?
Well, I can think where I am now to wonderful parenting.
Unlike, I guess, unfortunately, a lot of millennials, when I got home from school every single day, my father would start the drive home by asking me what I learned.
And instead of just saying, that's great, he would ask me questions to follow up.
Oh, are you sure feminism is the best ideology?
Are you sure that that's exactly what happened historically?
And he gave me this nasty bug of being forced to ask questions about everything.
And it ended up getting me in a lot of trouble in school and university.
I became the little devil's advocate in the class.
And being always being on the hot seat in the classroom, challenging the teachers kind of drove me to love being the devil's advocate and asking the tough questions, which is what got me in this situation now.
So my dad can't complain about me running around no-go zones and getting myself in trouble since he caused this.
He did this to me.
Good.
You can blame him.
Now, you started out, you kind of were associated with the alt-right, which I know is kind of a loose phrase that people use.
But you were connected to Milo and everything like that.
So do you consider yourself part of the alt-right?
Well, here's the thing.
It's funny.
I won't label myself anything.
I am what I am.
But the alt-right rejects me because they don't think I'm not a white nationalist.
So I'm rejected by the alt-right in a lot of cases for that.
But the alt-light also rejects me because I will have discussions about the importance of homogenous societies.
And I will have discussions about how I do think that Germany should remain a majority German.
I do think that my homeland, Denmark, should remain a majority Danish, right?
So I'm kind of in this middle ground where I'm just willing to have logical discussions, I think.
And if that offends you and if that makes me a crazy Nazi, I'm not, but people will call me what they call me.
Have you broken, are you still connected with Milo?
Have you broken with him or do you still think he's kind of going in the right direction?
I was just talking to him recently.
I think he was just in London where I am and we were going to meet up for drinks, but he's quite busy.
So I haven't talked to him in a long time because he's very, things went on a little roller coaster ride throughout his campus tour, of course, and his downfall and comeback.
And I more knew Milo before all of that happened, before his fame per se, where we were crashing Amber Rose slutwalks together.
Okay, I guess what I'm trying to ask, you wrote, your book is called Barbarians, How Baby Boomers, Immigrants, and Islam Screwed My Generation.
And obviously, the first thing that comes into a left-winger's mind when he hears that is, oh, what a horrible racist you are, and how you hate immigrants and you hate Islam.
Defend yourself, Lauren, I mean, do you?
Defend myself?
Yeah.
Yes.
Do you, in fact, hate people for the color of their skin or for their religion?
Well, you know, it's funny.
I was actually having a debate with a left-winger in a pub the other day, and they were just telling me, Lauren, all I want for society, all I want is for us to all get along.
I just want people to live their daily lives with the most fulfillment, the most happiness, and the most peace.
And that's what I want as well.
I want the highest amount of freedom with the highest amount of safety and peace and happiness.
And the way you get that statistically, this has been shown in studies time and time again, is one with a homogenous society and a free society.
And unfortunately, homogenous means you cannot have open borders because people do not assimilate fast enough.
And homogenous also means you can't have this myth of multiculturalism.
It's a myth.
It hasn't worked everywhere it has been applied.
Every time you see people with hardcore radical ideologies like Islam or even just really strong cultures, like we have a lot of Chinese come into my hometown of Vancouver, they just don't assimilate.
They don't talk to each other.
They don't even do business with each other.
Even if there's money on the line, I don't go into some towns anymore in British Columbia and Canada because people just won't talk to me because I speak English.
And this is not something that is going to last.
I mean, Justin Trudeau can say diversity is our strength over and over and over again, but as the face of the nation changes and people find that multiculturalism is really just segregated enclaves, that answer is not going to be good enough for the young people who find themselves an English-speaking minority in certain places.
It's not going to be good enough for people who find themselves completely just disregarded by their communities because they are still beholden to Western ideas.
And it's just, it's not been working.
It's been a complete and utter failure.
This is something even people like Angela Merkel are starting to recognize and say, maybe we made a mistake here.
Maybe things went too fast.
So like many leftists, I want peace as well.
I want happiness.
I want things to work out fine and dandy.
But we all know that that is a pipe dream unless you make some tough decisions to ensure happiness.
And that may not be for everyone, but it at least can be for some people within your borders.
You know, it's interesting because it is a dilemma in countries like the European countries that are actually based on race.
Germany is Germany because it's filled with Germans, French because it's filled with Franks, and English because it's filled with Anglo-Saxon people.
They actually have some argument for keeping a majority of a certain race.
Here in America, where we're based on a creed, we have an argument for keeping our country a majority of one creed.
It's entirely possible, as committed as I am to secular government and religious freedom, it's entirely possible that you can have a religion that is so antithetical to the American creed that we have to limit the number of people who can come in holding that belief system.
It's just, it is a shame, but it's something that we have to look at.
One of the things that I'm really interested in, I've watched a lot of your videos about feminism, one of them called Why I'm Not a Feminist, one of them Why I'm Not Married, which I thought was kind of interesting too.
And as an old guy looking at younger people, I'm always kind of fascinated with this because it seems to me that feminism has so eaten away at the respect that was once paid to homemakers and mothers that I frequently hear young women making excuses for the desire to become a homemaker, the desire to live a private life or to be a mother, and also using feminist terminology even as they reject feminism.
So they say, I'm not a feminist because I believe you can be more equal by not being a feminist.
Where the question is, is equality even a goal?
So where are you now in this?
I mean, are you still, would you still say you're not a feminist and why not?
It's funny.
I'm definitely still not a feminist, but I think your point of people using feminist language to reject feminism is a fascinating one and asking, is equality the goal?
Because that's another journey I've made since my rejection of feminism of saying, maybe me saying this is all about egalitarianism and total equality and that's why I reject feminism is still the wrong idea because women and men are not the same.
That is just a fact.
We have different brains.
We have different wiring.
We have different things that make us happy, make us tick.
And the reality is, is that in many different aspects of our lives, women and men are going to compete differently.
They're going to react to things differently.
In fact, I do a lot of research and even speeches on something like sexual market value.
If women, for example, have sex with over 20 people, Harvard studies have shown that after that, there is almost a 0% chance of their marriage working later.
They're almost 100% likely to get divorced once that number has reached 20.
For men, completely different.
So should we be approaching the genders as the exact same if our point is to achieve happiness for both these groups?
The obvious answer when looking at the research is no.
We need to approach them differently and realize that traditional lifestyles actually do lead to a lot more happiness for women because they react differently to things like sex.
It's something that's very powerful and impactful to them.
Also, they're just, quite frankly, not as happy in working jobs.
If you've ever read, oh, The Coming Apart, Coming Apart.
Coming apart.
Yeah, excellent.
Who's that by again?
Oh, Charles.
Charles.
Charles Murray.
Yeah, Charles Murray.
Two of us working together.
Excellent points about how when pulled, women show they are the happiest as homemakers.
And as a young girl, when you've had so much Marxist propaganda, feminist propaganda, all of Hollywood telling you the best thing is to be a businesswoman or a lawyer or whatnot, that sounds great, but it's leading you down a path of sadness.
And that's just statistically true.
Women who reach 30 and are lawyers typically drop out of the field because it doesn't fulfill them or they can't compete.
And as much as people may hate to admit that, because we just have this god of egalitarianism, this god of equality that we must reach it at all ends, even if it makes people miserable, eventually it's going to get to this point where I think that actually the younger generation are watching women like myself and millennials and people like Miley Cyrus on their TVs just hit this stage of misery where there's no meaning to what a woman is.
There's no meaning to femininity anymore.
And they're just sad and lonely and don't have children or family around them.
And they're going to reject a lot of this and go back to kind of the traditional lifestyle.
But it's really sad because a lot of this Marxist propaganda, the stuff you see in magazines, it's playing with people's lives.
It's playing with women's happiness.
And it may seem frivolous to just write an article about, oh, I'm perfectly happy being a lonely single woman in my 30s.
It's not because you may actually convince a woman to go down that path.
And it's going to be difficult for her to compete with 20-year-old women.
She's not going to be able to find a good husband at that age.
And she's going to be miserable, statistically speaking.
And it's very, very sad.
I've always thought the big mistake that feminism made was while attacking men, they basically took on male values of work and of even of fame and of the kind of success that men hunger after.
They hunger after those things because it helps them find women.
That's why.
And for women to take those on, I think, basically guts the true meaning of their life.
That's the way it seems to me looking at it, but I'm not here to tell anybody how to live.
What happens when you look at, you famously, you had a, you went to a women's march with a sign that says there's no such thing as rape culture, which was taken away from you.
When you're looking at the sex scandals that are going on here in America America and everybody being exposed as having chased women around the room and basically women in Congress getting into an elevator without getting attacked by Congressmen.
Do you think maybe you were wrong?
Is there a rape culture?
Well, we are certainly importing one when it comes to immigration in Europe, but also within Hollywood.
This is the thing.
People don't, when it comes to normal society in the West, no, we do not.
The majority of people reject rape.
When you are proven to have raped someone, you go to jail.
You cannot call that a rape culture.
What I will say is that the elites play by a different set of rules.
When you have enough money to hire all of the lawyers in the world to intimidate someone, to pay someone off, when you hold someone's career in the palm of your hand, their success, their failure, of course, you're playing by a different set of rules than the average young man on a college campus who will get accused of brushing a woman's arm and get kicked out of his school in these days.
So of course the Harvey Weinsteins of the world are playing by a completely different rule book than the average man.
But I do think it's very interesting watching Hollywood just fall apart this way because we're learning a new lesson that every generation seems to have to learn.
I swear our ancestors are just rolling in their grave and smacking their forehead because we always forget how powerful sex is.
We always forget just how much it impacts us psychologically.
Sodom and Gomorrah, all these different lessons throughout history that told us, no, this is a very impactful thing on more than just a one-night stand for that however long it may be time period.
That affects your mentality going forward.
That affects your emotions.
That affects people don't even see the obvious things these days like pregnancy and single motherhood, which are terrible for children to be in a single mother home.
And I think we're really starting to get a grasp on how powerful sex is and why some of these traditional institutions like marriage and waiting for marriage and or at least just being with the person you love and not everyone, why we had these more traditional viewpoints and a taboo around sex because it's something that impacts people for their whole lives.
And like I was saying, the studies showing women failing in marriages later because of all the people they've been with.
We've really just thrown all these things to the wind and our generation is discovering the hard way why we had these traditions.
Why Roy Dislikes Creepy Romances00:10:44
No question about it.
You know, I'm running out of time and I want to ask you, you have talked about your book is called Barbarians, How Baby Boomers, Immigrants, and Islam Screwed My Generation, and you're actually in England reporting on some of the stuff that's going on there.
What are you doing in England?
Well, I've been doing a bit of filming all around, but the biggest thing I'm working on is just a mini doc called, oh, sorry, Fortress City is what it's called.
And it's about the changing face of London since mass terrorism happening more and more often because of mass immigration.
And just the other day, I got caught up at Oxford Circus in a mass panic, thousands of people running through the street away from what they thought was a terrorist attack.
Turns out it was only two people arguing in the street at Oxford's circus station.
And people are so on edge, so afraid that they started screaming and running, thinking they were going to get shot, that they were going to get blown up.
If that happened in Japan, if there were an argument, people would pull out their phones and they'd go film it.
If that happened in Canada, people would maybe try to break up the fight and continue their day.
But London, this whole city is on edge.
They've got barriers built up.
Buckingham Palace even has these disgusting giant yellow gates to stop a giant truck from ramming through it.
And this is unlike anything we have referenced to in history.
This is a battle within the gates, and they are inviting the enemy in.
It's absolute insanity.
And all you have to do, I guess, is look to Israel, really, for what the future of European cities are going to be.
It's really, really interesting.
I lived there all through the 90s.
It was a tremendously safe city, even though we were going through a bombing campaign from the IRA.
The IRA would call people to warn them before the bomb went off so nobody got hurt.
Lauren, thank you very much for coming on.
I'm out of time, but I hope you'll come back and talk again.
Really interesting to hear where you're coming from, and I look forward to seeing the film.
Oh, that's it.
They didn't let her say goodbye.
You know, what's so fascinating to me about this, well, actually, we'll cover it under sexual follies.
One day I'm going to really do that.
You know, what's so fascinating to me about this is like an official old guy to watch a young woman come to terms with the reality of what sex means, what it is, what's good for her, and have to reinvent that on her own because our elites have spent the last 50 to 60 years destroying it.
They've destroyed our sexual, you know, the sexual moral structure that kept everything in check, that at least guided us and how it was best for us to relate to one another.
And now they're the ones who are shocked at the results of their work.
So yesterday, Donald Trump finally endorsed Roy Moore.
Sort of.
I mean, he never said what a great guy he is.
He sent out a tweet saying Democrats' refusal to give even one vote for massive tax cuts is why we need Republican Roy Moore to win in Alabama.
We need his vote on stopping crime, illegal immigration, border wall, military, pro-life VA, judges, Second Amendment, and more.
Nota Jones, a Pelosi-Schumer puppet, and the RNC, which had abandoned in one of those great acts of political hypocrisy, they had abandoned him.
Now they see that he might win because the polls, the poll average, showing he might, might just squeak this through.
They came rushing back and started to give him money again.
And people on the right are like, you know, fainting and they're clutching their pearls.
I don't see why.
I do not see why.
I mean, this is, if you had to have a heart operation and the greatest heart surgeon in the world was a rapist, would you say, no, I'll go with the fifth best heart surgeon in the world?
No, you know, so I mean, you know, Trump never said, this is a wonderful guy.
Moore says he called him a fighter or something like this, but he just says, I need the vote.
I need the vote.
And what gets me about this is that, first of all, the left has no leg to stand on.
Forget about Clinton.
They have been pushing this scenario on us for years.
Go back to Manhattan, the Woody Allen film, which is about a 40-something-year-old nebish, basically Woody Allen.
He's a comedy writer, I think, in it, romancing a 17-year-old girl played by one of the Hemingway girls, Mariel Hemingway.
And at the end of that, let me just play a little clip from the end where he comes to her and she's off to London on some fabulous semester abroad or something like this.
And he goes and begs her not to go because he wants her.
I don't think you ought to go to London.
I have to go.
I mean, all the plans have been made.
Arrangements.
I mean, my parents are there now looking for a place for me to live.
Do you still love me or what?
Do you love me?
Yeah, that's what, yeah, of course.
That's what this is all about.
Guess what?
I turned 18 the other day.
I'm legal, but I'm still a kid.
And nobody thought at the time, except me, by the way, nobody thought at the time to say, you know what?
It's kind of creepy.
It's kind of creepy making a romance about this.
I mean, look, we all know that older men and younger women kind of go together because women like the things that men generally only acquire over time, like money status, and a sense of themselves.
And men like pretty girls and pretty young girls.
I mean, basically, that's it.
So there's something there that's kind of part of nature and all this.
But the left and the, just the other day, just the other day, the LA critics named this new gay picture, Call Me By Your Name.
They named this the best picture of the year.
That's about an older man with a 17-year-old boy.
I mean, you know, they're still doing it.
And then they're going to faint dead away.
What doesn't work is it doesn't work for one side to play by the rules and the other side to play by any rules they want.
That is what doesn't work.
What people keep writing me and yelling at me about the fact that I don't like Roy Moore.
And I keep telling them, I haven't convicted him of anything.
I haven't, you know, I believe some of these women.
Some of them I don't care about.
If he was 34 and she was 17, I don't think that's wise.
I don't think that's kind.
I don't think that's good, but it's none of my business.
That's not the problem.
It's the 14-year-old girl, the girl who said, the woman who says he attacked her, and all this.
But some of them, I don't know who's telling the truth.
I don't know where the lies are, but I believe some of these women.
That's not why I dislike him.
I dislike him because he's a hypocrite.
I dislike him because he bangs on the Bible and uses people's religion and accuses gays and other people of causing his problems when clearly he caused his problems.
And I really think he is a rebuke to the kind of, and I'm not a Bannon hater, but it's a rebuke to the guys like Bannon who say they're going to go outside the mainstream while Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan are achieving, suddenly achieving things, they might lose Alabama.
That's absurd.
But the one thing is, though I don't like him, and though, of course, if he did anything to a 14-year-old girl, I think it's despicable, I do think that there are, you know, the other day some woman, oh, Roy Moore's spokesman, went on CNN and was talking to this woman.
This is an incredible cut.
And what was her name?
Poppy, I can't remember.
Poppy Harlow, is that it?
Yeah.
Okay, so this is the opening of this interview.
And let me get right to it.
So thank you.
It's great to be with you.
By the way, congratulations on your unborn child.
That's the reason why I came down as a volunteer to speak for Judge Roy Moore, because he'll stand for the rights of babies like yours in the womb, where his opponent will support killing them up until the moment of birth.
Janet, thank you for being with us, and I appreciate the congratulations on our son on the way.
Now let's get right to this.
So I have to say, the woman, the reporter handled that very well, but people went nuts on Twitter.
This is reprehensible.
I didn't think it was reprehensible at all.
I thought it was a little outlandish, but it's true.
It's true.
This guy believes in abortion up until the minute the baby comes out of the woman.
I mean, there are actual serious issues here.
What I don't believe in is I don't believe that if you're going to vote for somebody who's a creep because the other guy's a bigger creep, just say it.
Just say it.
Just be honest about it.
That's it.
You know, I'm voting for this guy.
I don't like him.
Because the thing is, we, the people, are so much more nuanced than the people who think that they're giving, they think there are thought leaders.
They see everything on the news on black and white.
They see everything in partisan terms.
They see everything as a, you know, the story is going to be Republicans support a child molester.
We, we are much more thoughtful than they are.
If there is one big lesson from the year that is just coming to an end, it is that the regular people are so much better than the elites that the word elite has lost its meaning.
And I think one of the ways that the regular people are better than the elites is they can deal with nuance.
They can deal with the fact that we live in a world of shades of gray.
We live in a political system that is very broken, that's very damaged.
We live in a sexual system that's very broken and very damaged.
And we have to stumble along in the shadows and make our way.
And I don't blame anybody for the choice they make in voting for Roy Moore.
I do not think it's, I'm not shocked.
I don't think it's disgusting and evil and all these things.
I think it is a creepy system that puts two such creepy people in opposition to one another.
And I think Trump's right.
He needs the vote.
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