Ep. 382’s Andrew Clavin dissects the 2017 Emmy Awards’ anti-Trump spectacle, where Julia Louis-Dreyfus called him a Nazi and Handmaid’s Tale—criticized as artistically hollow—won for its dystopian messaging, while Sean Spicer’s cameo was mocked. He contrasts Hollywood’s leftist takeover with media failures: Fox News aired unchecked bomb-building instructions, CNN grilled an editor over vague anti-Trump quotes, and a Penn poll revealed 37% couldn’t name a First Amendment right. Clavin ties this to a "St. Louis Stupid" acquittal of officer Jason Stockley, where BLM praised police while protesters ignored systemic drug issues, exposing inverted moral frameworks. The episode argues media and entertainment now weaponize outrage over substance, leaving audiences both misinformed and alienated. [Automatically generated summary]
Hey there in St. Louis, people are violently protesting the death of a suspected heroin dealer.
If you think that's just stupid, you're listening to the right podcast.
Meanwhile, in Hollywood, millionaire movie stars prove they can pat themselves on the back with one hand while giving you the finger with the other.
The great troll Michael Knowles will be here to discuss that, and it looks like an interesting week upcoming in politics, so we'll talk about that too.
But first, large celebrations continue in St. Louis in the wake of the acquittal of former police officer Jason Stockley for his shooting of suspected drug dealer Anthony Lamar Smith.
Black Lives Matter advocates are carrying signs saying, thanks, Officer Stockley, and many express their delight that one of the members of the thin blue line that protects black lives from criminals like heroin dealers will not be punished for doing his job.
As BLM spokeswoman Letitia Unicorn told reporters, quote, if there's one thing I've learned as a black woman who has experienced real prejudice in this life, it's that a person should never be judged by the color of his skin.
I don't care if a police officer is white.
He's there to protect me and my neighborhood, and I don't want some lowlife who's out there selling poison to my neighbors to have even the slightest chance of doing him harm.
So I'm personally thrilled that Officer Stockley has been found not guilty, unquote.
In the wake of the verdict, activists gathered in mostly low-income black neighborhoods to voluntarily paint houses and sweep the sidewalks in front of storefronts in order to raise property values and bring a greater sense of dignity and pride to the area.
Interviewed as he was helping to repair a porch step, the Reverend Al Fantasy Jr. told a reporter, quote, every time I see the video that shows that heroin dealer ramming his car twice into Officer Stockley's police vehicle, I'm just so glad it was the dealer who died and not an officer of the law, unquote.
In an impromptu sermon on the sidewalk, the Reverend Fantasy told local men that in honor of Officer Stockley's victory, they should start to repent of their sinful ways and marry the women who bore their children.
If we start to take a little responsibility for ourselves around here, the Reverend said, maybe we won't have so many drug dealers in our neighborhoods and our police officers won't have to shoot them to protect themselves, us, and our families, unquote.
Covering the jubilant demonstrations on the street, CNN reporter Lance Gormliss told anchorman Wolf Blitzer, quote, you know, Wolf, when I look around and see the relief on these good people's faces because they know that police officers like Jason Stockley won't be discouraged from doing what needs to be done to keep their neighborhoods safe, it makes me think maybe we at CNN should stop slanting our stories in order to turn thugs into heroes and cops into criminals.
Not only would that be a tremendous help in improving these suffering urban areas, but it might increase our viewership if we told the truth from time to time, unquote.
The celebration of Officer Stockley's acquittal is scheduled to last until I wake up and return to reality when everything will be stupid again.
Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Clavin, and this is the Andrew Clavin Show.
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Paris Climate Accord Update00:06:07
All right, the Claveless weekend is over.
I like that opening.
It was like being on a drug trip, you know.
Michael Knowles will be here to talk about the Emmys.
And we've got, you know, I have to tell you, we've got this thing, the conversation, which is coming up tomorrow, right?
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Before I want to talk about St. Louis, then we'll get to the Emmys with Knowles.
But before that, I just want to say we've got a very interesting week in politics coming up ahead.
Tomorrow, Trump is going to address the UN, which should be really, really interesting.
We'll talk about that tomorrow.
I guess he's going to be talking to Kim Jong-un, sending a little message to him.
I think Nikki Haley, our ambassador to the UN, sounds like she is just about done.
Like the whole diplomacy thing was fun to try, but we're moving on.
Dana Bash said to her, when Trump said he's going to deliver fire and fury, was that just an empty threat?
Listen to her response.
The president said last month that North Korea would face fire and fury if it continues to threaten the U.S. and its allies.
Well, since the president said that, North Korea has really done nothing but threaten the U.S. and its allies.
North Korea threatened Guam.
North Korea fired two missiles over Japan and tested a hydrogen bomb.
So was the president's fire and fury remark an empty threat?
It was not an empty threat.
What we were doing was being responsible.
Where North Korea is being irresponsible and reckless, we were being responsible by trying to use every diplomatic possibility that we could possibly do.
We have pretty much exhausted all the things that we could do at the Security Council at this point.
Now, I said yesterday, I'm perfectly happy kicking this over to General Mattis because he has plenty of military options.
So I think that the Fire and Fury, while he said this is what we can do to North Korea, we wanted to be responsible and go through all diplomatic means to get their attention first.
If that doesn't work, General Mattis will take care of it.
That's a pretty big threat.
So that's going to be interesting to see what Trump is talking about in the UN.
Also, this is the other thing that this is kind of sneaking under the radar.
The Senate may revisit the healthcare, the Obamacare thing, the repeal and replace Lindsey Graham of all people, who is Mr. Security.
I mean, I don't know what he knows.
It's kind of weird when the security expert in the Senate is putting up a health care bill, but he's got a bill that basically turns control of healthcare markets over to the states.
As Graham puts it, if you like your Obamacare, you can keep your Obamacare, but if you don't, you can get rid of it to the states.
Interesting, they're saying they'll vote on that if they can put together 50 votes.
And the other one, this one, this is a dopey story.
The Paris Climate Accords, the Wall Street Journal runs a piece saying Trump is not going to pull out of the climate as Paris records.
So now they've got all these different officials.
They have the National Security Advisor, H.R. McMaster.
He says, no, that story is untrue.
Here's McMaster.
That's a false report.
The president decided to pull out of the Paris Accord because it was a bad deal for the American people and because it was a bad deal for the environment.
It gave the worst polluters the ability to continue polluting and emitting carbon without significantly reducing those levels.
The president is committed to the cleanest water on earth, the cleanest air on earth, to an energy policy that reduces carbon emissions, but then also provides clean fossil fuels to generate growth in this country and globally.
And these priorities he felt we could not pursue effectively within this flawed agreement.
So he's out of the Paris Climate Accord.
Out of the Paris Climate Accord, but he said the door's open.
If you look at what he said on the day that he announced withdrawing from the accord, he said at some point in the future, if there can be, if there can be a deal that addresses these fundamentals, the Allies said they're not going to negotiate.
Well, the president's ears are open, though.
So now the story is: well, we said he was and he is or isn't he?
Omaha Steaks Package Deal00:03:13
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It's like Ocean's 11.
Are we in or are we out?
You know, it's all when you go.
McMaster is absolutely right.
Go back to Trump's announcement.
This was back in June.
It's exactly what he said.
Listen to this.
The United States will withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord, but begin negotiations to re-enter either the Paris Accord or in really entirely new transaction on terms that are fair to the United States,
its businesses, its workers, its people, its taxpayers.
So we're getting out, but we will start to negotiate and we will see if we can make a deal that's fair.
And if we can, that's great.
And if we can't, that's fine.
So the story is: everything is exactly the same, except the press is confused.
That's the story.
The story is they keep saying, oh, we're in route.
We're betrayed.
Is he stabbed us in the back?
He's doing exactly what he said he was doing.
It's not even a story.
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I'm sure you've heard about these riots.
Riots or Peaceful Protests?00:08:58
Riots is too strong.
These protests in St. Louis.
They are peaceful during the day.
At night, there's been like, I don't know, somewhere around 100 arrests.
Policemen have been attacked.
Windows have been broken.
And, you know, at this point, I know I just sort of hear these stories out of the corner of my ear.
But I thought, let me find out what this is about.
Okay, so in 2011, Jason Stockley, a police officer at the time, now he's living, he's not an officer anymore, he's now living in Houston.
Jason Stockley and his partner Brian Bianchi pull up in back of a guy who's parked in the parking lot of a church's chicken.
And he's selling drugs.
I mean, I have to say alleged because it's never proved.
But according to the police officers, and they've got him on video, he's going in and out of the store.
He's going back to his car.
Later, according to the police officers, again, they found heroin in his car.
He's going in and out.
They park in back of him.
The guy jumps in his car, rams the police officers twice.
By the way, in the New York Times version of this, and the New York Times is like always prides themselves on there being the complete story, all the news that's fit to print, they leave this out.
He rams the cop car twice.
So he's using his vehicle as a deadly weapon, takes off.
Stockley and Bianchi chase after him.
It's a three-minute high-speed chase.
At some point, the car spins out of control.
The alleged dealer, the accused heroin dealer, Smith, crashes the car.
You hear Stockley on tape, according to the court transcripts.
He says, we're going to kill this MF.
Don't you know it, okay?
I mean, who knows if he's serious or not, but at this point he is.
He gets out.
The other cop gets out.
They surround him.
They shout, get out of the car.
There are lots of cops looking in.
According to the testimony of the police officers, he doesn't get out of the car.
Smith doesn't get out of the car.
He's rooting around in the car.
And Stockley sees a gun, opens fire, and kills him.
2011, right?
Nothing happens.
2016, five years later, they bring him up on charges of murder.
Stockley says, I don't want to, I waive my right to a jury trial.
I just want a judge because he doesn't want it to get, I guess, this is me guessing.
I guess he doesn't want it to be all emotional.
He wants the judge to rationally take a look at it.
The judge looks at it.
Now, remember, this is five, six years later.
The prosecutor said there was new evidence, but nobody knows what this evidence was.
Judge Timothy Wilson acquits Stockley, says, look, anybody in that situation says, I might say, I'm going to kill that guy.
We don't know the context and all this.
They claimed, the prosecution claimed that the gun that they found in Smith's car was planted because only Stockley's DNA was on it.
But any DNA expert will tell you that it's very hard to get DNA off a gun.
It doesn't mean anything.
It doesn't mean that it wasn't Smith's gun.
And in what is the big controversial statement everyone's pointing to, Judge Timothy Wilson said for an urban heroin dealer not to have a gun would be an anomaly in my experience as a judge.
And everybody said, oh, he said urban.
Meant black.
Well, hey, you know, if all he meant was urban, that works too, right?
An urban heroin dealer is going to have a gun in the experience of this judge.
Here is Stockley, the former officer, addressing this after the gag order is taken off.
This is cut number four.
I did not murder Anthony Lamar Smith.
I did not plant a gun.
As I testified at trial and to homicide on the day of, it was an imminent threat to my life.
I had to.
The taking of a life is the most significant thing that one can do.
And it's not something that is done lightly.
It's not something that should ever be celebrated.
And it's just a horrible experience altogether.
But sometimes it's necessary.
Okay.
And he talks, he goes on to talk about the fact that when a guy is resisting arrest, it always looks bad.
And I know this from experience.
I've seen a lot of arrests.
I've been around a lot of cops.
When somebody resists arrest, the cops have to react violently.
A lot of times, there's so much violence because they're trying not to hurt the guy.
So five cops will pile on him because if one cop takes him on, you really have to hurt somebody to bring him down.
But if five cops pile on, they can wrestle him to the ground.
It always looks ugly.
And he talks about the fact that you have to look at the facts and the facts clear him.
Now, these demonstrations, they're all, you know, there was really, these demonstrations have gotten violent, but most of the people at these demonstrations are probably not, are not being violent, okay?
And so that's, and that's not the point.
I mean, the point is, the point is, why on earth, how on earth did the world get so morally turned upside down that this neighborhood goes out and gets upset over the death of an alleged heroin dealer who, let's face it, I mean, he rammed a police car.
You do not ram a police car if you're a decent everyday guy, right?
How did they get to the point where that's a problem for them?
Okay.
And I say this not because of the violence.
I say it because of the protest itself.
It reminds me of the godfather.
At the end of The Godfather, the police are the gangsters and the gangsters are kind of acting as a police force.
The whole moral world has been turned upside down.
And that seems to me is what has happened.
And it's not the fault of the people who are out there.
They have a sense of injustice.
I'm not talking about the black experience in America.
I have no authority to talk about that.
I know that a black guy is going to be treated differently by a cop than a white guy is going to be treated differently when his car gets stopped.
I don't believe that's the police officer's fault.
I believe it's the fault of all the bad guys who look like that innocent man who are committing crimes.
But how did they get to the point?
I mean, the question that I want to ask this guy, you know, Fox News had an interview with just a guy walking by.
His name is Wayne, and he's a protester.
This is cut number six.
And Wayne is trying to say what would happen, why he feels this is an injustice.
And they ask him, would it be the same thing?
Would you feel the same way if the dealer was white?
And here's Wayne's response.
Same set of circumstances.
A guy with a bunch of priors running from the cops rammed a couple of vehicles.
But he was white, the situation would be different.
I believe that they would have came after him, but I definitely believe they would have tried to bring him in alive.
Right.
They don't feel that.
That's my firm belief.
I feel like outside they actually pulling a gun.
No, they would have brought him in.
Let me not curse, but they would have beat the sleeves off of him.
They would have beat the sleeves off of him.
It would have been a standoff.
They would have did whatever they had to do.
They did whatever they had to do to get him.
Okay.
So Wayne is telling you what, you know, the way he sees it.
Okay.
That's his experience of life.
Fair enough.
I'm not trying to knock down this guy.
But what I would have liked to ask him if I were out there is, is this the problem in your life?
Is this what's bringing your life down?
Is this what has made your life not what you want it to be?
Is it Jason Stockley?
I mean, look, if Stockley went out and assassinated this guy, even if he is a heroin dealer, he should be put in prison.
The judge decided that didn't happen.
You know, I don't know what the right verdict is, but why assume it's the wrong verdict?
And is this the problem?
Are the police the problem in your neighborhood?
Are they really the problem?
You know, is that really what's going on?
I just feel this is not the problem of the individuals out there, but their leaders and the press who sell a bill of goods that is essentially racist.
That if a white cop shoots a black guy, then somehow that is a racial incident because of the color of the people's skin.
It's racism straight up, as our friends on the left like to say.
That is racism straight up.
And this is a human thing when you see, look, let's say you are an oppressed person, you're working in the fields, and the guy who's oppressing you is sitting on the veranda of his plantation.
You're going to say, like, whatever that guy's doing is working, and whatever I'm doing is not working.
And you're going to adopt his values.
And that's what I feel a lot of these people have done with the help from our friends on the left and with the help of the press.
They've said, look, racism worked for these people.
Now you adopt it and it's going to work for you.
But it doesn't work that way.
It doesn't work that way.
I cannot believe that people are out on the streets activated to violence by the death of a heroin dealer who's poisoning their children, poisoning their neighbors, selling them this garbage that ruins your life.
A cop shot them?
Okay, yeah, explore that.
Of course you should.
But that's the problem in your life.
It is just stupid.
And there's nobody saying it.
There's nobody saying the entire premise of this protest is wrong.
They're all saying, well, it's not as violent as people are saying.
It's not, I don't care if it's violent or not.
Obviously, it shouldn't be violent.
They have the right to protest, but they're protesting something stupid and they ought to take a different look at their lives.
And their leaders, their pastors, their activists, and the press ought to help them take that look.
All right.
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Michael Knowles is coming up to talk about the Emmys.
All right.
We got Knowles?
Oh, my God.
The white tuxedo, the man brave.
And what really bothers me, Knowles, is you own that tuxedo, don't you?
You didn't rent that thing.
Well, what else am I going to wear to all the Emmys parties?
I'm sorry if I look a little bleary-eyed, but I had to stay up and watch that terrible telecast last night because you made me.
It's good for your character.
It builds character.
I think this award, it's the Arthur Ash Courage Award for sitting through all of that watching it on my TV.
Well, you look good.
I hope you can beat a Russian spy off the top of a train when you wear that thing.
So it sounded, I'm glad you had to watch it because I did.
It sounded dreadful.
You know, I had gone to see Aaronofsky's and Jennifer Lawrence's film Mother before the telecast.
That movie is just Jennifer Lawrence being tortured for two hours.
The Emmys were much more torturous.
It was much more excruciating.
I watched it.
You know this.
You know that rent in Hollywood is expensive.
You know, it's one of the wealthiest places in the world, very high rents.
But Donald Trump gets to live rent-free in the minds of every single person at that awards show last night.
It's like three, those shows are like three hours long, right?
From pre-show until the end of the show, I pulled a few clips just to give us a flavor for the entirety of America, which did not watch.
But I could give three hours of this.
I'm going to be talking more about it on my show because there simply isn't enough time to play every low-hanging fruit, stupid Trump insult that began from the top and ran through until the end.
It's amazing.
And this is 40 million viewers, potential viewers of their television show that they hate so much that they are happy to get rid of that audience.
40 million people.
Potential is a key word here, Drew, because this was the lowest rated Emmys telecast ever.
It is right now in competition, neck and neck, with last year's telegast, hosted by Jimmy Kimmel.
But it was pathetic.
Stephen Colbert hosted.
Obviously, he's made a lot of headlines and a lot of money on his late night show criticizing Donald Trump.
It's the thing that saved his show.
He would have been canceled had Trump now run for president.
And so from the beginning, you have a guy who's a good performer.
He's a great showbiz guy.
He's enjoyable to watch.
Every single joke was about how terrible Donald Trump was.
The headline song was Everything is Better on TV.
And then they presented the worst imaginable world.
Here's how it began at pre-show with an actress describing who she was going to root for at the awards.
Who are you rooting for tonight?
I'm rooting for everybody black.
Everybody black.
Who are you?
You're rooting for everybody white.
I'm rooting for everybody white.
Sure.
I mean, is that the way it works now?
Well, so the implication here is that black people are disadvantaged at the Emmys.
And certainly it's been the case over the years in Hollywood that it can be hard for black actors to get jobs.
There just aren't that many roles.
Not true this year.
It was the most diverse Emmys awards in history among presenters and recipients.
Every Hollywood breakdown now calls for, quote, diversity casting.
And of course, they mean diversity of skin color, not in any way, diversity of ideas.
Yeah, and if what you're fighting for, if the civil rights battle you're fighting is to win more Emmys, I think most of your problems are solved.
Here was Alec Baldwin really summed up the navel-gazing nature of this award show in his, he won for his Trump impression on SNL.
Here's his acceptance speech.
I suppose I should say, at long last, Mr. President, here is your Emmy.
I want to thank my wife.
My wife and I had three children in three years, and we didn't have a child last year during the SNL season.
I wonder if there's a correlation there.
All you men up there, you put that orange wig on.
It's birth control.
Trust me.
Get it?
I get it.
Do you get it?
It's birth control.
Yeah.
You know, what I love is that he's basically accepting the idea that winning those golden statuettes actually makes you a better person.
That's absolutely right.
George Clooney embodied this, I think last week we talked about it, when he was mocking Bannon.
And the worst thing he could say about Bannon is that Bannon couldn't make it in show business, couldn't make it in Hollywood.
And that to them, they are the royals.
They're American royalty.
And they are sneering at every single person who can't make it up to their rarefied area.
There was one semi-funny moment during the show last night, and it was a surprise appearance by Sean Spicer.
Here it is.
Of course, what really matters to Donald Trump is ratings.
You got to have the big numbers.
And I certainly hope we achieve that tonight.
Unfortunately, at this point, we have no way of knowing how big our audience is.
But is there anyone who could say how big the audience is?
Sean, do you know this and Emmys period, both in person and around the world.
Wow, that really soothes my fragile ego.
I can understand why you'd want one of these guys around.
Melissa McCarthy, everybody, give it up.
It's a fun bit.
Spicer was a great sport about it.
It at least showed some reaching across the aisle to the half of the country that doesn't agree with you guys.
This was the reaction in the press today.
CNN, quote, why did the Emmys help Sean Spicer rebrand?
Huffington Post, quote, angry viewers are in no mood to laugh at Sean Spicer's Emmy jokes.
Is that right, Huffington Post?
I say he wants to talk to all the viewers.
Washington Post, Sean Spicer's yucky cameo at the Emmys.
Yucky, because democracy dies in darkness, and we need the Washington Post to save our democratic republic.
It's that old thing from them, the culture is ours.
You can't have it.
You human beings, you Americans, you guys who live in the country, you can't have it.
It belongs to us in LA and New York.
Don't you dare.
And they went on.
You know, there was a bit with Julia Louise Dreyfus calling Trump a Nazi or saying he sympathized with Nazis.
Then Cole Bayer implied that he was a traitor.
And then Jane Fonda came out and screeched for a little bit.
For some reason, she's still allowed on television.
Hanoi Jane sat on Vietnamese anti-aircraft guns, but she's going to lecture all of us.
The way that you know that they totally jumped the shark on this telecast is that Deadline, the trade paper for Hollywood, even Deadline ran this headline this morning.
Emmys TV review, Donald Trump overkill Stains Stephen Colbert's hosting debut.
Even Deadline, even Hollywood is acknowledging, geez, guys, maybe we should have calmed down before we went out there.
You know, Drudge had the great headline was, and the winner is Donald Trump.
Because you're right, he owns them.
He owns them now.
You know, they dance on his string.
Like what he does is all they think about, and their virtue is now tied up with him.
If he starts to really succeed, if the economy really starts, it has taken off, but if it really starts to take off, if he does good things and things start to work out, they're going to look like the biggest idiots on earth.
You know, he controlled who won the awards.
The big winner was Handmaid's Tale.
I really mean it.
The big winner won Best Drama, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actress, was Handmaid's Tale simply because Donald Trump is president.
I watched a lot of that show because I'm a masochist, and it is a terrible show.
I mean, the writing is absurd, but just the pace of it is slow.
It's tedious.
It's pedantic.
It isn't good.
There were a lot of good shows that were out this year: West World, Stranger Things.
Uh-uh.
They had to give it to Handmaid's Tale to send a message to Donald Trump.
Well, also, because this is what's happening in America today: women are being forced to wear those hats like a flying nun.
Bailey at the Daily Wire made a great point, which is that in the introduction that Stephen Colbert does, all of the Handmaid's Tale women are walking in behind him, wearing the capes and the head coverings, and then they rip it off and start doing a dance routine in a completely sexualized and objectified manner.
Way to prove your point, Hollywood.
So, you mentioned the fact that this is the lowest rating.
I mean, this is what leftists do.
They come into an institution, the New York Times, Yale, as you know, it's awful.
Entertainment industry, they take it over, they gut it of everything of worth, except all it becomes is a messenger of leftism.
People turn it off, and then they sit around and talk about, well, it's a problem with the industry.
The industry is having a problem.
It's not a problem with the industry.
We're sick of that.
You know, why would people want to watch people, millionaires, giving them the finger for three hours?
I mean, they just don't want to see it.
So, you mentioned Mother.
I have to ask you before I let you go.
You mentioned Mother, and that was also a tremendous bomb after Jay Law came out and said that the hurricanes were caused at karma for Donald Trump.
Mother Nature screaming out.
How's the picture?
I enjoyed it.
I'm the only guy in America I have to disagree with.
National Review said it was the most vile motion picture ever released by a major studio.
And even the great John Nolte, correct about everything else, is wrong about this.
He gets it wrong.
I love movies.
I tell him this all the time.
People are reading it.
You know, the movie, I think, has real artistic value.
And I think it's a deeply Christian movie.
I think it's basically just watching the Bible for two hours.
Really?
And there are two interpretations.
One is that Mother, played by Jennifer Lawrence, is Mother Nature.
She's Gaia who we have destroyed.
And in this reading, it's basically an environmentalist diatribe.
And there's some reason for this.
Jennifer Lawrence has been yapping about it on the press trail.
And even Aronofsky, the director who directed the environmentalist version of Noah, has said that these interpretations are valid.
But I don't think they're valid.
And Aronofsky would not be the first artist to not understand his own work.
I think the picture makes a lot more sense as a Miltonian Christian allegory in which Jennifer Lawrence isn't Mother Nature, but she's Satan.
She's Lucifer.
Interesting.
And I think when you watch it in that way, the relationship between Lucifer and God, the relationship between man and God and Lucifer and what causes the fall of Satan and what causes the fall of man, it makes a lot more sense.
Certain scenes make a lot more sense.
And the key to the movie is that it's told from Jennifer Lawrence's point of view.
So you can't always rely on things.
She's taking palliative drugs throughout.
You're always wondering what's going on.
It is a real, I think it's worth seeing.
But then again, conservatives are Philistines and we hate watching anything that's culture.
The Chip the Black Swan was a good film.
Michael Knowles, the Michael Knowles show comes on after this and you will continue to talk about the Emmys, right?
I mean, I've got three more hours to talk about.
It only gets more ridiculous.
More importantly, will you still be wearing the white tucks?
I will.
I'm never taking it off.
This is the closest I'm ever going to get to a real Hollywood Awards show now, so I got to keep it on.
Yeah, so tune into the Michael Knoll show because he's sacrificed his career to bring you the truth.
All right, I have no regrets.
No regrets, Drew.
I'll talk to you later.
All right.
our crappy culture.
Did we write that music?
No, it just found it on those.
What is your favorite song?
God, it's awful.
So I have to tell you what experience.
I was in New York over the weekend.
And on Friday, Friday morning, I was in the hotel gym on the elliptical machine, which is one of my, I take hikes all the time because to avoid the gym.
I hate being on the elliptical machine.
I find it excruciatingly boring.
But usually I can find some really, there's two shows that actually make the elliptical machine time pass.
One is Law and Order, which is like this magic show for just sucking time out of the air.
I don't know why it works so well.
And the other is Blue Bloods, which is kind of dopey, but it's sentimental and conservative, and I like it, and it just makes the time pass.
But I decided, you know what?
It's Friday morning.
I ought to catch up with the news.
I'm going to watch cable news.
So I'm switching between Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, and for a little bit I visited CBS, I think it was, one of the networks.
So on Fox News, they're talking about the London bombing, right?
They just put off this London bomb.
Discussing Important Issues00:09:11
They have an expert on, one of these former guys.
There's all these guys, former Navy SEAL or whatever he was.
He was a former security guy.
And he starts talking about how with just, I'm not, I won't tell you what he said exactly, but he starts talking, you know, just a little bit of simple work and some really easy to get things, this guy could have made a much more dangerous bomb.
Much more, he could have killed dozens of people, dozens of people.
He's talking about it.
And he tells you how to do it.
He tells you, I'm sitting there watching this and I'm thinking, are you kidding me?
Are you kidding?
And nobody's cutting this guy off and saying, don't explain.
I mean, it was so simple that anybody could have done it.
And I just thought, like, unbelievable.
So I switch over to CNN.
And on CNN, The Anchor Woman, I couldn't remember, all those anchor women look exactly alike to me on CNN.
And I could not, cannot remember which one it was, but she's explaining how anti-FA is good because they're anti-fascist.
No, no, no, they're anti-fascist.
And I'm thinking, you know, when you put on a mask and you beat people up for their opinions, ah, you're not anti-fascist.
Now, look, you can have a debate.
You can have an interesting conversation.
Is white supremacy worse than anti-FA, whatever you want, which is more dangerous?
All kinds of things you can talk about.
But she's explaining, like, it's so simple.
No, but they're anti-fascist.
So they're good, you know?
And I thought, all right, so I turn over to MSNBC.
And MSNBC, the Joe Scarborough show, is on, Morning Joe.
And they have the editor of the new anti-Trump, of the Atlantic Monthly, and they're promoing the Atlantic Monthly's new anti-Trump issue.
So it's got, you know, stories, will American democracy recover?
The sudden decline of a superpower, the whitest White House, you know, all this stuff, anti-Trump, anti-Trump.
And the guy says to him, you know, there's a quote in this month's issue that says this, this, and this.
And the guy, I guess his name is Jeffrey Goldberg, I want to say, is the editor.
And he says, well, which article was that in?
And the guy interviewing him says, well, what it says was this, this, and this.
And he says, yeah, but we got articles by Tanahisi Coast.
We got articles by all these different people.
Which article?
I can't respond because you're not telling me which articles.
Interviewer had no idea.
He just had a card with a quote in it.
He's asking this guy an opinion.
Now, I don't expect him to read the entire magazine, but at least he could.
So now I turn on CBS.
And I think it's CBS.
And on CBS, there's a beautiful anchor woman in New York and a beautiful anchor woman in Washington.
And what they're talking about is, wow, you look great in that yellow dress, really, because your red is just perfect.
And I'm thinking, like, we are drowning in stupid.
I mean, I don't watch a lot of this stuff.
You know, I watch it enough to keep up with the news.
I try to keep up with everything.
I try to know stuff, but I try to read a lot because there's information.
I can judge it better.
We are awash in stupid.
It was like a sewage line had broken, a line in the sewer had broken and flooded the airways with sewage.
I mean, and I'm talking about, this is every point in the spectrum, right?
This is like, well, it's not.
It's Fox and everybody else.
But all of them, I just thought, like, really, you know, and look, some days there's not that much news and some days you've got to talk about stuff, but why not talk about stuff that's, you know, educational?
Why not actually educate people about what's going on instead of talking about, well, I guess Fox was educating people on how to make a really dangerous bomb in case they wanted to blow up the subway.
You know, there's a new poll from the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Public Policy Center.
It says, people know shockingly little about the most basic elements of our government and the Constitution, okay?
More than one in three people, 37%, could not name a single right protected by the First Amendment.
Okay?
Freedom of speech, freedom of worship, all that stuff, couldn't name a single right.
37%, right?
Only one in four people, 26%, can name all three branches of the government.
Only one in four people.
I mean, this is the stuff they taught us in elementary school, right?
This was our civics lesson.
One in four people can name all three branches.
One in three people can't name any branch of government.
33% can't name any branch in government.
A majority, 53%, believe the Constitution affords undocumented immigrants no rights whatsoever.
Of course, everybody who's on U.S. soil is entitled to due process of law and the right to make their case in the courts and all that stuff.
I mean, you know, it's like all that airtime, all that time to talk, and nobody is telling you about the branches of government.
Nobody's telling you anything.
They can't take all that time instead of sitting around and discussing, you know, a quote in a magazine you haven't even read or talking about what color dress you're wearing.
They can't take any time to educate Americans.
And certainly some of this has been done on purpose.
I mean, I feel so strongly that our young people, and not just young people, because some of these newsmen, some of these people who are running or are anchoring CNN, anchoring Fox News, anchoring these places, some of them are victims of this.
They have been purposely denied their heritage, purposely denied being taught about this in order to have these people teach them that Black Lives Matter and this is, you know, and gay rights and all this stuff that they could come, conclusions they could come to by themselves or not if they had some information and some facts.
You know, Megan Fox, who writes over where I write too at PJ Media, she writes this piece about a sign that is now appearing in many restaurants.
Do we have a picture of the sign?
There it is.
Okay.
I'll read it to you in case you write.
It says, hate has no business here.
So this is in a storefront window.
All, it says, are welcome here.
We respect women.
We value black lives.
We stand with our LGBT community members.
We stand with immigrants and refugees and people of all faiths.
We stand with our community.
All are welcome here, and there's a rainbow heart, okay?
So Megan Fox writes, let me interpret that sign for you, you low IQ dunce.
These signs are to let you know, you hateful lover of law and order and restraint and decorum, that you are not welcome here.
Contrary to all are welcome, you will notice that one group is decidedly missing.
It's you.
You think abortion is murder, so you don't stand with women, even though half of those babies being killed are girls.
You favor legal emigration, so you don't stand with immigrants, which means allowing anyone, including ISIS, to just sally over the border willy-nilly as they please.
You believe in traditional marriage and that children should not be denied a mother and father.
And so you do not stand with the LGBT community.
I mean, the reason this is stupid is this.
It fails to distinguish different kinds of issues.
Okay.
There's an issue of racism.
This is a real issue.
People are racist.
We've had a history of racism against black people, specifically in this country.
That's a real issue.
As I've said a million times on this podcast, it's a sin against God.
We are made in the image of God.
You don't like the way people are made.
You are spitting in the face of God.
You are literally spitting, not literally, you are figuratively spitting in the face of God.
So that's one issue, okay?
Gay issues, on which I'm kind of liberal, in which I'm a liberal, that's a different issue.
That's something people do.
It's not about your feelings.
It's not about who you desire.
It's something people do.
You can have a debate.
Is what you're doing wrong?
Is what you're doing right?
Is what you're doing nobody's business?
Is what you're doing somebody's business.
That's a debate.
It is not, there are not two sides, you know, gay marriage and hate.
There are two sides that can be argued there because you're talking about an action.
An action can be judged, right?
If I punch you in the head, that's an action.
That can be judged.
I can't be judged for having black skin or white skin.
That's absurd, you know, but you can judge a person's actions.
Finally, we stand with people of all faiths.
Well, I'm not sure I stand with people of all faiths.
I stand with all people who worship God peacefully, of course, but some tenets of religions are wrong.
Some tenets of religions are bad.
Some tenets of religion are not, are toxic, and some are just in conflict with other values.
And we can discuss that.
We can talk about that.
We can't do it from a position of hate.
It's not a question of like throwing a grenade into your mosque or temple or church.
It's a question of discussing these things.
These are all different kinds of issues that have been blended together to make you stupid.
They are trying to make you stupid so that they can take power.
We are awash and stupid, and that is our crappy culture.
I want to see the crappy culture again.
I hear that beautiful music.
Hey, hey!
And I'll be humming that tune all day.
All right.
Tomorrow we have a special interview.
I should have talked about this before.
I discovered recently a popularizer.
He's a philosopher, has a doctorate in philosophy, but he's a popularizer of philosophy.
A guy named Edward Faser.
I thought his name was Fesser.
I was going to call him Professor Fesser, but his name is Edward Fazer.
I gave his book to Ben or recommended his book to Ben, and Shapiro's been touting on his show.
We're both very impressed with this guy.
I had him on the show.
We had a really great conversation.
We taped a conversation.
We're going to play some of that.
We're going to play the whole thing, actually, tomorrow.