Ep. 366 pits Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson against Charlottesville’s "both sides" fallout, calling leftist monument protests performative while defending Trump’s economic record—Foxconn’s Wisconsin jobs and inner-city investments—as proof his policies overrule racial tensions. Giano Caldwell’s clip slams Trump for equating Nazis with "good people," but the host counters by framing supporters’ loyalty as transactional, dismissing identity politics as the real divider. Media bias is skewered: CNN’s Acosta mocked, NYT accused of lying about Trump, while Chuck Todd’s antifa sympathy contrasts with ignored neo-Nazi critiques. The episode pivots to moral absolutes—Dennis Prager’s Disney symphony and Whitman’s Leaves of Grass—to argue America’s spiritual battle trumps racial or political grievances, ending with Armstrong and Crosby’s defiant blues. [Automatically generated summary]
All around the country, brave left-wingers are finally taking on America's greatest enemy, statues.
Yes, leftists who call themselves anti-FA, a term which means fa, have taken to the streets and parks to defend our great nation from these sneaky bronze figures who have perfected the insidious art of standing absolutely still while pigeons crap all over them.
Leftists have focused their attacks on statues that represent the Confederacy in order to bring this country together by revisiting issues that were settled in a sea of American blood over 150 years ago.
After all, if these events are allowed to pass into memory, we might forgive some of the bad things people did to one another before we were born and move on into the future instead of acting like a bunch of primitive tribesmen who keep feuding over the same ancient grievance forever.
And no one wants that.
As anti-FA leader Jack Asimai told the Daily Wire in an exclusive interview from his apartment in the Joseph Stalin home for the morally inexcusable, quote, these statues may look innocent standing there, all motionless and covered with pigeon crap, but after darkness falls, they suddenly spring to life and join forces with the voices in my head to try to reinstall the Confederacy in parks and museums across the land, unquote.
We also spoke to anti-FA protester Mimi Screamer as she was busy pulling down a statue of Beauregard T. Kornpone, the famous Confederate private who fought the battle of, oh my God, them Yankees have burned down my ramshackle farm.
Ms. Screamer and her friends dragged the statue off its pedestal.
Then, to make sure the statue would never get up and bother anyone ever again, they kicked the statue repeatedly while making the statement, quote, this filthy statue will once and for all, ow, I think I broke my toe.
Ow, unquote.
After neutralizing the threat from all the statues that represent the southern states, the leftist protesters plan to go on destroying statues from other parts of America they dislike, including the West, where whites killed Indians, the North, where industrialists abused their workers, and the East, where the protesters' parents refused to let them continue to live in their garages rent-free.
As anti-Fa leader Uncle Fa told our reporter, quote, we have begun by attacking Confederate statues because nobody likes slavery and we can get away with it.
But our real plan is to undermine America's sense of history and patriotism because we hate everything the country stands for.
Oh, wait, did I say that out loud, unquote.
The brave battle of the leftists versus the statues will continue, despite one tragedy where a leftist pulled a statue of a charging Confederate soldier down on himself and was bayoneted to death.
President Trump addressed the incident saying there was blame on both sides.
Democrats attacked the president, saying his failure to specifically denounce the statue proves his secret attachment to statues.
And CNN's Jim Acosta added, look at me, I'm Jim Acosta.
Look at me, look at me, look at me right now.
Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Clavin, and this is the Andrew Clavin Show.
I'm the hunky-dunky, life is tickety-boom.
Birds are winging, also singing, hunky-kunky-dee-doo.
Ship-shaped dipsy-topsy, the world is a bitty-zing.
It's a wonderful day.
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All right, the Clavinless weekend is upon us.
I dread to think.
Last time only the entire country exploded, so hopefully it won't be that bad.
This time we have Jesse Lee Peterson, the Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, the founder of Bond, is with us.
Jesse Lee is a guy, I just, I love the guy because he, I pride myself on saying whatever is on my mind.
I pride myself that everybody knows what I think.
I never hide my, but he is, he is the single most courageous person I've ever met.
He will just say whatever he thinks, no matter how politically incorrect.
And I always love talking to him.
I'm a little sorry.
You know, I'm a little sorry because whenever I always, it always bothers me that whenever a commentator comes on the air who happens to be black, he always has to talk about racial issues as if every black guy represents all black people.
You know, so it's like Jason Riley.
He's always got to talk about, you know, Jason Riley, you know, he's a really bright guy.
He knows about a range of issues.
White guys come on, they talk about Russia, they talk about North Korea.
Black guys always have to talk about race.
But we invited Jesse on weeks ago.
In fact, he was bumped because of a scheduling conflict.
So he just has to come on and talk about Charlottesville.
It's just the luck of the draw.
It's like what God decreed that Jesse has to come on and talk about Charlottesville.
But anyway, he's very interesting.
He and I had a big debate during the election before during the primaries about Donald Trump.
So he's a big, big Trump supporter, and we'll hear what he has to say.
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There's been a terrorist attack there, a guy driving a truck and seems to have killed two people, which means I guess the press now has to revert back to withholding judgment on who did the crime and not condemning all the people around him and saying there's fault on both sides and saying there's some very good people in the Islamist movement.
Now the press becomes Donald Trump and Donald Trump can go back to being Donald Trump.
He can go back without getting it.
It occurs to me that the Democrats have a really good gig going on.
They have a really good business model.
They have these policies that, I mean, one of the reasons I became a conservative, because I grew up a liberal Democrat, and I didn't know any better and I just had to learn the truth, basically.
And one of the reasons I became a conservative was because I hated the way Democrats treat black people, treat minorities.
I think that they try to infantilize them.
I think they sell them on dependence.
They sell them on helplessness.
I think that their sexual policies have caused this incredible plague of illegitimacy that has been shown again and again to cause generational poverty.
All these things.
Look at the Democrat cities.
Look at Baltimore.
Look at St. Louis.
You know, Baltimore, in the middle of the night, they're tearing down Confederate statues while people are being shot left and right.
You know, I mean, it's not the statues that are shooting the black people.
It's the Democrat policies that cause these horrors.
Chicago, another one, all these places where the Democrats are.
And then, and then when the black community in that city, in that Democrat city, is so dysfunctional that it has a lot of crime and the crime.
And so the ordinary Joe, he's not thinking about cause and effect.
He just sees, oh, all the criminals are black.
A lot of the criminals I see are black.
And he says something bigoted.
They say, see, all these right-wingers are bigoted.
You need more Democrat policies.
It's a great business model.
It's a great business model.
And they have gone on with this thing, this press conference that Donald Trump gave about Charlottesville.
They are hammering.
It's the classic thing.
And I said this yesterday, and I will say it again, just so everybody's clear about it.
I think Trump bobbled the ball.
He bobbled the ball, especially when he said there were good people on both sides.
This rally was organized by the Nazi right.
It was organized by the Nazi right.
And I've been very hard on them.
And you guys keep writing to me and saying, but don't they this?
And they're not really right-wing.
And does some of them say this?
And it makes sense.
Look, they're a bunch of hateful creeps.
They're hateful creeps, and they are on our side.
They vote for the people that we vote for.
They call themselves right-wingers.
We don't have to give them any credence whatsoever.
We don't have to accept a single word they say.
And if ever your heart responds to the hateful garbage coming out of their mouths, just walk away.
Walk away.
They are wrong from beginning to end.
Everything, you know, they talk about Western culture.
They talk about the white man building Western culture.
They don't know anything about Western culture.
Western culture rests on two pillars, Jesus and Socrates, a Jew and a gay guy.
All the people they hate are the pillars of what built our society.
You know, it's just nonsense.
They're just ignorant, hateful people.
And this was the mistake Trump made, just to get that out of the way.
The mistake Trump made was saying there are good people on both sides.
Nobody looks at a rally being held by Nazis and says, well, I don't agree with killing all the blacks and Jews, but I don't want that statue to be taken down.
So maybe I'll go to the rally.
That's not the way it works.
People see that and think, I don't think so.
But this is a classic thing with the press that has now, with Trump, has gotten out of control, is any word that a Republican says that can be misconstrued as racist, they will misconstrue it as racist, tar every Republican with the supposed racism, and just go out of their way, out of their way to make all Republicans and all GOP people look like the right is always racist.
And they do this again and again and again.
And here's the thing.
Donald Trump said something he shouldn't have said, but at no time did he defend white nationalism or racism.
And the New York Times, a former newspaper, that's what they keep saying.
I mean, you know, all the business guys are abandoning him.
You know, Trump shut down his business advisory councils because the business guys are running for their lives.
Because this is how the press controls the right.
This is how the press turned the Republican Party and the bunch of pueling cowards they are by tarring them with racism.
So they're so afraid to open their mouth.
And Donald Trump blunders through this stuff.
And look, I don't think Donald Trump is a racist at all.
I really don't.
But, you know, he doesn't take care.
He doesn't pay attention to this stuff.
And so all the Republicans are running, all the business guys are running away.
And, you know, and then they use this, the press uses this panic to say, well, everybody is saying you're a bad guy.
Everybody's saying that.
You know, yeah, because they're all running for their lives.
And like, they keep saying this thing that he defended white nationalism.
It just is not true.
And so today he put it out in a tweet saying they shouldn't tear down the statues, the Confederate statues, which, by the way, They're only, that thing I said in the opening is true.
They're only going after the Confederate statues because they can get away with it.
It's not about the Confederacy.
It really is not.
You know, obviously, you know, we're all opposed to slavery.
That's why they're going.
But they want the, he's right.
They want the Washington statues.
They want the Jefferson statues.
These are not, these people do not like this country as it was founded.
They want to change the founding, rewrite the founding of this country, rewrite what we're about.
And that's why they're doing it.
So Trump put out on Twitter that he didn't think they should tear down the statues.
This is the New York Times, a former newspaper.
This is how they headlined it.
Under fire for defending racist activist groups.
One lie, right?
Didn't defend racist activist groups.
Never did it.
He never did it.
He was very clear that the people he was talking about were these peaceful people who wanted to defend the statue, who I don't think were there.
I don't believe they were there.
So I think he made a mistake there, but he was not defending racist policies.
Under fire for defending racist activist groups, the New York Times lies.
President Trump said on Twitter on Thursday that he was sad to see United States history torn apart by the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments, echoing a popular refrain of white supremacist groups that oppose the removal of Confederate monuments.
So if you oppose the removal of Confederate monuments of our history and the things that people put up in their time and thought were good in their time, if you oppose that, the complete rewriting of history like we were in some Soviet state, you are making common cause.
In other words, if you're not a Soviet communist, you're a Nazi.
That's basically where the New York Times stands.
Because the New York Times, this is the New York Times that is selling this idea.
Remember, we were joking about it yesterday, that sex was great in the Soviet Union, that they had that article, sex was better for women in the Soviet Union.
Sure, they killed tens of million of people, but the orgasms were just fantastic, you know.
So this is the thing that they're selling, and we're supposed to take that seriously.
And it leaves, you know, it leaves the good people in a quandary.
We don't want to be tainted with the idea of racism.
I do not.
I think racism is a sin against God.
I think it's a sin against the image of God.
I don't want to be tainted by it.
But, you know, I just don't think that that is what Trump was saying.
And we have to go to Jim Acosta again, because let's not forget for a minute that Jim Acosta is CNN's White House correspondent.
This is the guy that they think is giving fair and equal and balanced coverage to the White House.
And this is him reacting to Trump's speech.
All right.
That's just.
That's just what he always seems to be saying.
This is what he actually said.
I think we saw the president's true colors today, and I'm not sure they were red, white, and blue.
The White House put out some talking points tonight.
This is what they say.
The president was entirely correct.
Both sides of the violence in Charlottesville acted inappropriately and bear some responsibility.
There's another one that says he has been a voice for unity and calm.
This is Allison in Wonderland stuff.
How the White House could put out talking points saying that the president was in the right here is just, it's baffling.
It's strange.
But they are right in one respect.
He has united the country against the views that he espoused today, which were right there on the edge of white nationalism.
I mean, it's just not true.
It is just not true.
And Jim Acosta is the CNN's White House correspondent.
So CNN feels emboldened by the corruption of the media, by the absolute widespread corruption of the media.
They feel emboldened to put a White House correspondent who is telling you that if you voted for Donald Trump, you are not red, white, and blue because your guy is right on the edge of white nationalism.
Acosta did afterwards put out this statement.
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If I came on up and dance for you, scream and shout like a witch book, dude.
Would you give a little bit?
I have to give a little bit of attention to me.
It is what Acosta always seems to be saying.
So we've got Nazi scum, we've got communist scum, and we've got media scum.
I mean, the media are like the worst people because if they would report this story honestly, you know, we would be able to come to opinions, nuanced opinions, but you can't when they are the worst hate group in the country.
Have we got Jesse?
Yes.
Let us bring on the Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, a man, as I say, I admire so much for his honesty and his fearlessness.
He's an author, media personality, the president and founder of Bond, which is the brotherhood organization of a new destiny, an American religious nonprofit dedicated to rebuilding the family by rebuilding the man.
There you are, Jesse.
How are you doing?
Hey, Andrew, thanks for having me on.
You look great, man.
Thank you.
It's mostly makeup.
I heard you got thrown out of your gym.
I did.
Last Friday, I go to Equinox, and I've been going there for years.
And so last Friday, I had to do a 10 a.m. interview with my friend Bill Cunningham out of Ohio.
So I get to the gym, I put on my workout clothes, get my cell phone, run to a quiet room.
But I've been doing this for years at the gym.
And so I'm on the phone.
I can't move because if I do, the call will drop.
So this guy, the employee came and he said to me, you got to get out of here.
And I'm telling him to hold on just for a minute.
I'm doing an interview.
He's like, no, you got to go now.
And I'm like, hold on, man, just hold on.
So he went and got the manager.
And the manager came in and he got right in my face and you got to get out of here and get out of here now.
You have to leave the building.
You can't come back.
We're going to cancel your membership.
I'm like, what's going on?
I'm doing an interview in just a minute.
And so I left that room and my call dropped.
So I lost the interview.
And the guy was all in my face and just carried on.
It didn't make sense to me.
I had no idea why that was happening because employees have seen me in those rooms before doing interviews and no problem.
And so I get off the phone.
I'm like, all right.
And so I told the guy, he was in my face.
I said, get the F out of my face.
I used a manly word.
And then he said, you can't talk to an employee like that.
I said, yeah, you're right.
I apologize.
I put my hand out to shake his hand to apologize.
He's like, no, I'm not.
You know, he wouldn't accept it.
And so he told the employee to go and call the cops.
And when the guy walked away, the manager said to me, you're saying that there is no racism toward blacks and Hispanics.
You're a Trump Trump supporter.
And I'm like, wow, that's what this is about.
Wow.
Being a Trump supporter.
And so he said, you got to leave.
I'm canceling your membership.
I said, look, I've been here forever.
I never had any problems there.
There are a lot of folks because they've seen me on TV or heard me on radio or in print.
They know where I'm coming from, but they like me because I'm a good guy, right?
But the guy threw me out anyway.
He told me I had to leave.
He wouldn't hear anything.
Just, you got to leave.
And he hated me so much because I support President Trump that he overreacted.
So now I'm looking at what I need to do about this situation.
I'm looking at my options right now.
Yeah, I mean, this is Equinox Gym.
I mean, they are a big LA gym.
I see them all over.
That is amazing to me.
They do not want you working out if you support the president.
That's it.
That's right.
And this is on Sepubla Boulevard.
It's the largest one that they have on Sepubla Boulevard between Olympia and Pico.
Yeah, I know it.
I have been warned, though, I have to tell you, Andrew, by some of the workers and some of my friends who go to this gym, they were like, you cannot let them know you vote for Trump.
You can't support Trump around here.
This is a liberal gym.
And if they know it, they're going to get you for it.
But, you know, they talk about Hillary.
They're always putting Trump down.
And I refuse to cower down to fear like that.
I have a right to vote and support whomever I want.
Even if they don't agree with it, as I don't agree with them, I have a right to do it.
I'm not going to cower down.
Oh, no.
Well, I've never seen you do it.
I've never seen you do anything that even resembled cowering down.
So I don't expect.
I want to hear what happens with this.
Now, you and I, during the primaries, we had a great debate on TV on your station that we talked about this.
I had serious, serious reservations about Donald Trump.
I still have some, but you were all in on Trump.
You loved that guy from the minute you saw him.
Yes.
How are you feeling now?
When you and I were on my TV show, TheFallenState.tv.
You know, when President Trump announced that he was running, and he said, I'm going to put a big, beautiful wall around the borders, and Mexico is going to pay for it.
This big, beautiful wall.
I'm going to bring back jobs.
I'm going to deport illegal aliens.
I'm going to cut back on restrictions and regulations.
I'm going to protect this country from radical Islamitarianism.
I said that day, this is our next president.
Wow.
This is what we need.
And when I woke up on March, I mean, November 9th, 2016, I turned the TV on right away, 4 o'clock in the morning.
And they said Donald Trump is our fourth or fifth president.
I went to Cloud 9, and I have been dancing on the ceiling ever since.
Still, you still feel this way.
I am more convinced now than I was the very first day that he announced that he was running.
This man is what America needs.
The way he handled that situation in Charlottesville, North Virginia, in Charlotteville, Virginia, over the weekend, was perfect.
He said it was wrong on both sides, that violence is wrong.
Never mind who is doing it.
It is still wrong.
And he mentioned later that even though you might not agree with the alt-rights, they had a permit.
They had the right to have their rally.
And for the Antifa and Black Lives Matter to come there heavily armed with the intent to attack these people was absolutely wrong.
And then yesterday he had the most powerful press conference that I've ever seen any president have.
This would go down in history as one of the greatest press conferences ever because the man told the truth.
Even being attacked by the media, he was able to tell the truth.
And Andrew, that's what we need.
We need honest government.
We need government that put the country first.
And President Trump is doing that.
What do you think of the argument that there is something unique in America about the journey of black people out of slavery to equality that he is kind of missing, that he just doesn't address that deep well of feeling that some blacks and whites have that there's this terrible racism in this country?
Should he address that more?
Are they wrong about that?
He's addressing it.
First of all, black people are not on a deep journey.
Okay.
I kind of thought you were going to say that.
Black people, not all, but most wouldn't recognize a deep journey if it slapped them in the face, all right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Black Americans are not suffering due to so-called racism.
The ones who are suffering and most are, is due to the destruction of the family and the lack of moral character.
Black people are angry.
They're angry first at their mothers who have turned them away from their fathers.
And the mothers are impatient, imposing their will on them, being, you know, too mothery.
And it caused the kids to become angry.
And when you become angry, whomever you become angry at, you become like them.
And so the anger that you see in black men and women is the anger of their mothers.
And they're yearning for their fathers.
The worst thing, Andrew, that can happen to a child, it doesn't matter the race or color, male or female, is to turn them away from their fathers.
Because when you turn them away from their fathers, it leaves a deep down void, like emptiness, like something that's always missing in your life.
And what is missing is a return to the fathers.
And so blacks are yearning for the fathers, and they're angry at their mothers.
And instead of telling them to forgive their parents because their parents couldn't help themselves, they're told that it's racism or that it's the white man, something else that it's not.
So blacks are being used in their fallen state of anger for political and personal gain by the far-left liberals, the black politicians, and the black preachers.
It's not about racism, Andrew.
Racism have never existed, and it does not exist today.
It's either good or evil, right versus wrong.
And when you read my recent book, The Antidote, Healing America from the Poison of Hate, Blame, and Bishophood, I prove that racism does not exist.
It's a made-up word in order to divide and conquer.
Well, then what about the idea that guys like Steve Bannon and the Breitbart sites and all this, they give quarter to evil when they allow these Nazis and these white supremacists to speak as if they were part of a decent movement?
I mean, these guys are evil, aren't they?
The Nazis and the white supremacists.
They're so full of hate.
They hate the Jews.
They hate the blacks.
They hate everybody.
I mean, there is something terribly wrong with these people.
And some people say that Trump or at least Bannon have given them some kind of credibility.
You don't think so?
I don't know about that because I do know that anyone, anyone who has anger in his or her heart is evil and they cannot be trusted.
Because anger is the nature of the great deceiver, Lucifer or Satan, whatever you want to call him.
Because love is of God.
And love is not something that is emotional.
It's not something that you can taste and touch.
Love is simply not hating.
So anyone who has hatred in their hearts are evil and they can't be trusted.
And so, you know, you hear everybody, most people pointing out what's going on, what's happening on the right side or with white people, but you don't hear what's happening with black people.
For an example, and I play, I'm on Newsmax TV.
I don't know if you're aware of that, but I have a, yeah, I have a daily lively, a live, a live, live show on Newsmax TV Monday through Friday.
And today I show Louis Farrakhan when Louis Farrakhan said, I want 10,000 black men to hunt down and kill those who are killing us.
I didn't hear anybody say anything about that.
Barack Obama didn't repudiate him.
The liberal media didn't repudiate him.
The right side didn't repudiate him, but had a white man say that it would have been all over the news.
It would have been everywhere.
And then you had Black Lives Matter saying, what do we want, dead cops?
When do we want it now?
Peterson de Blake, frowned like bacon.
That's evil.
And instead of repudiating Obama and Black Lives Matter, Barack Obama invited them to the White House, the heads of the organization, more than once.
So how come it's okay to point out evil on the right side, but not on the left?
And that's what the President Trump, the point he was making.
Why is it that it's always with the white folks, but never with the blacks who are doing the same thing?
What do you have to say?
There are a lot of people on the right who they used to call themselves never Trump.
And then once Trump got elected, they said, well, okay, we're not never Trump, but we really still oppose this guy.
He's bad for the party.
He's bad for conservatism because he's such a blundering guy.
He's such a bull in a China shop.
Do you think that they're being played in some ways, the right-wingers who still oppose Trump?
Yes, sir.
They are being played.
They are weak.
They're cowards.
Okay.
Don't beat around the bush, Jesse.
President Trump is a man who is finally telling the truth.
We have a man in office who, for the first time in my life, at least of voting, is keeping his word.
He promised to do those things.
And in spite of the opposition that is coming after him, he's still, he's bringing jobs back.
People are now working and making more money.
The radical Islamic terrorists on the run.
He's cut back on restriction and regulation.
We have a conservative judge on the bench now in the U.S. Supreme Court.
He's doing what he said he was going to do.
But what it is, America is accustomed to a weak father.
You know, I remember a long time ago with my stepfather.
My mother married my stepfather before I was born because it was an embarrassment to have children out of wedlock.
And so, my stepfather was a decent man.
But one time my sister and I had a fight.
We were little kids, but we had a fight, my older sister, which was his daughter.
And she hit me and I hit her back.
And instead of my stepfather punishing both of us, he only punished me.
And as a kid, I knew that was wrong.
And so I went and told my mother, and she took his side because she was too weak to stand up and tell the truth.
And that's what we have today.
America is not accustomed to seeing a strong white conservative Christian man with power stand up and deal with evil in the way that they are dealing with it because America is so weak now.
They can't handle the truth.
And that's what's happening with President Trump right now.
Jesse Lee Peterson, I always love talking to you.
You're a breath of fresh air every time.
It's always great to see you.
I hope you'll come back and we'll talk about it more again.
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And our battle is not about color.
It's not about the physical.
It's spiritual.
It's about right or wrong, good versus evil.
Absolutely.
All right.
Thanks a lot, Jesse.
I'll see you soon.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
Bye-bye.
That guy just will say what he's going to say.
And, you know, people have pointed guns in his face, and he does it anyway.
Anyway, you heard they threw him out of his gym.
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You know, I want to play just a couple of quotes that came out about the reactions to the Trump presser because, you know, the power that the press has is to create this atmosphere of hysteria where the GOP runs for its life and all the people, you know, are scared and all this stuff.
And it creates this emotional, you know, this emotional atmosphere, especially in the Beltway.
Obviously, it doesn't in Washington and in LA, people being thrown out of their gyms and things like that, but especially in the Beltway.
And that's where it really has an effect because people are afraid to come out and say what they mean and they're afraid to talk because they know they're going to be completely pilloried as Trump is being pilloried now.
So here are a couple of reactions.
Here's the thing about Donald Trump.
I don't believe Donald Trump is a racist at all.
You know, what I believe, they asked Trump about racism.
They asked Trump about have things gotten better.
They never asked this to Barack Obama because things got much worse.
The racial divide got much worse.
But no, was that Obama's fault?
Absolutely not.
But if it's getting bad now, it's all Trump's fault.
So Trump had this response, which was really interesting, really fascinating if you listen to it.
This is cut number five.
They've been frayed for a long time.
And you can ask President Obama about that because he'd make speeches about it.
But I believe that the fact that I brought in it will be soon millions of jobs.
You see where companies are moving back into our country.
I think that's going to have a tremendous positive impact on race relations.
We have companies coming back into our country.
We have two car companies that just announced.
We have Foxconn in Wisconsin just announced.
We have many companies, I say pouring back into the country.
I think that's going to have a huge positive impact on race relations.
You know why?
It's jobs.
What people want now, they want jobs.
They want great jobs with good pay.
And when they have that, you watch how race relations will be.
And I'll tell you, we're spending a lot of money on the inner cities.
We're going to fix, we're fixing the inner cities.
We're doing far more than anybody's done with respect to the inner cities.
It's a priority for me.
And it's very important.
That's a classic Donald Trump response.
I've said this again and again.
Trump's daydream for himself is that you will love him because he fixes stuff.
That's how he sees himself.
And he doesn't see, you know, it's funny, some of Trump's strengths are also his weaknesses.
Remember when the Marines' hat blew off and Trump chased it down?
And I said, that's actually kind of a nice thing about Donald Trump is he doesn't really picture himself as being like, oh, the president above anybody else.
If the Marines' hat blows off, he'll go and fetch the Marines' hat.
But at the same time, the bad side of that is he doesn't see himself as a moral leader.
He doesn't understand that sometimes these things need to be addressed in a spiritual way.
He thinks, oh, well, everybody will have a good job and then they'll stop, you know, worrying about the racism thing.
And there's a lot of truth to that.
But at the same time, there are these moments when something like Charlotteville happens that you need to address in a moral way.
You know how one way you know that he's not a racist?
Here is one of the Nazis who was down in Charlottesville talking about him and saying, I'm a violent guy, I'm a racist guy, and I have one problem with Donald Trump.
Here he is.
I'm carrying a pistol.
I go to the gym all the time.
I'm trying to make myself more capable of violence.
I'm here to spread ideas, talk, in the hopes that somebody more capable will come along and do that.
Somebody like Donald Trump, who does not give his daughter to a Jew.
So Donald Trump, but like more racist.
A lot more racist than Donald Trump.
He's just guy's not racist, gives his daughter to a Jew.
And by the way, that's the face of these guys.
You know, they're not making subtle points.
They're racist.
So he doesn't like Trump because he's racist.
All right.
But yesterday, Giano Caldwell, who is a Republican, black Republican guy, went on Fox and Friends to talk about the statue issue and should they tear down this statue and that statue.
And it was this very emotional moment.
And I want to play it because the guy is one of us.
He's a Republican conservative guy.
And this is the way he felt after that press conference.
They're good people on both sides of this debate.
We talk about keeping these statues up.
People that I've talked to say, this is about history.
How do we move forward?
How do we learn from those mistakes if we just tear everything down?
You know, I come today with a very heavy heart.
Last night I couldn't sleep at all because President Trump, our president, has literally betrayed the conscience of our country.
The very moral fabric in which we've made progress when it comes to race relations in America, he's failed us.
And it's very unfortunate that our president would say things like he did in that press conference yesterday when he says, well, there's, you know, good people on the side of the Nazis.
They weren't all Nazis.
They weren't all white supremacists.
Mr. President, people, good people don't pil around with Nazis and white supremacists.
Maybe they don't consider themselves white supremacists and Nazis, but certainly they hold those views.
This has become very troubling.
And for anyone to come on any network and defend what President Trump did and said at that press conference yesterday is completely lost and the potential to be morally bankrupt.
And he starts crying.
We got to care about that guy.
We really do.
Like I said, he's one of us.
And if he feels that way, now maybe you can parse what Trump said and did he mean this and did he say that.
But part of being the president is leading and part of leading is appearing and seeming to be what people need you to be in these moments of division.
And I mean, nobody wants to see these Nazis go down to Charlottesville and not be rebuked.
And they've got to be rebuked and they've got to be rebuked again.
And it's great to talk about the violence of antifa.
The press has been wicked.
They have been evil, as I say.
There's the commie scum and there's the Nazi scum and then there's the media scum.
And the media has been evil in covering up the violence of this.
Chuck Todd, I think it was, had some anti-FA guy on.
Just let him just completely romanticize and cover up the violence of this movement.
But here are some people and props to CBS News because they had these people on.
I'm sure they didn't get the answers they were expecting.
CBS News had these people on.
And here are the people who say what I think is true about Donald Trump, that they're not looking to him for moral guidance.
They're looking to him to fix stuff.
And that is what Trump is selling.
This is cut number 10, a really fascinating interview with Trump's supporters.
How do you explain what your support is for a president given the criticism that he's had on this race issue?
I think for myself, period.
Nobody's going to tell me what to think or how to think.
I'm not gullible and I'm not blind.
It's my decision if I'm going to support someone or not, not go by what other people has to say.
And to me, what I've seen and what I love, he's not going to lose my support anytime soon.
I've been a Republican before Donald Trump.
I will be a Republican afterwards.
I honestly don't think we will see this issue of racial divide addressed until we remove identity politics out of the political process.
I love this country.
I love these people.
These people like this just see so clearly and they just are basically dealing with Trump as Trump.
They're not looking to him for moral guidance.
They're looking to him to fix stuff.
We'll see if he can.
Some of the stuff he's done so far has been really good.
Some of the stuff in the way he's dealt with the legislature, not as good.
But I really do.
I think, as I've said all week, I think he bobbled the ball.
I think we on the right have to have a care about these people.
These guys, like I said, are trying to be in our house.
They're trying to steal our name.
They're trying to steal our designation.
And the press is helping them because the press is wicked and corrupt.
But we have to also stand up.
We have to do the right thing.
The thing that Jesse Lee says, I don't always agree with Jesse Lee.
He's to the right of me socially, but I think that the thing that he says where these are spiritual issues.
When I was baptized, I didn't believe, it was now 13 years ago, long time.
When I was baptized, I didn't believe in the devil.
The resurrection was just about as much supernatural stuff as I could handle.
I'm a very basic down-to-earth person.
But over time, I started to say, and I've even put this in one of my books, I think it's in Werewolf Cop, where the guy says, there may not be a devil, but the world is exactly as if there were a devil.
I think that that's what started to convince me that in fact there is a conscious force that fights against the good and fights against the evil.
And the way you kind of know that is because evil doesn't care about our philosophy.
It doesn't care how it'll dress up like us.
It'll dress up and look like us.
And you'll say, well, that guy's kind of like me, and he says some of the things that I like, and maybe I can follow him down this rabbit hole into hell.
And like, the devil don't care.
He do not care.
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It's like it's just that thing.
He's always above our philosophies.
And the same way God is.
The devil is like the mirror image of the good, that he's above our philosophies.
And we think we cling to things that are good, but you can believe in Jesus and do evil.
You can believe in liberty and do evil.
You can believe in equality and do evil.
It doesn't care.
And we have to pick out the guys.
And it doesn't matter.
You can say, oh, these Nazis are not on the right.
But they say they're on the right.
So we have to make it very clear that we're not with them.
And even if they appeal to something in your heart, turn it off and walk away because they are the bad, bad news.
Stuff I like.
All right, we have now brought stuff I like to the end of the end of the week because I want to just hone in on stuff I really, really like.
First, I have to say something I liked.
Last night, a bunch of the guys and girls from the Daily Wire went to Walt Disney Concert Hall here in L.A., which is, to me, this fantastic.
People love it.
It's got very hyper-modern building.
I find it fantastically ugly, but it has the best, best acoustics I've ever heard.
It's like being in your car.
You know, when you're in your car and you turn the stereo up, that's what it's like.
The Santa Monica Philharmonic was there, and Dennis Prager, who conducts as a sort of passion, a hobby, he conducts orchestras as a hobby, was conducting a symphony by Haydn, and it was just great.
It was really wonderful.
Dennis was, I saw Dennis the night before at the Dodgers game, and he was nervous.
You know, he was actually nervous.
And Dennis is not a guy who gets rattled easily, but he was nervous.
And you could just see the joy on his face as he got to the end of the symphony.
He realized he had done it and it was going to work.
And the music was wonderful.
And because a lot of the people were there for Dennis, and they weren't people who usually go to symphonies, they played famous pieces, which you don't get to hear very much in symphonies because the aficionados don't want to hear the same pieces again and again.
So it's very rare that you get to go and hear Beethoven's fifth, you know, you don't get to hear that that often.
And to hear it played, it's such a beautiful piece that the normal guy, who I'm sorry, I don't know his, I don't remember his name, the guy from the conductor of the Santa Monica Philharmonic conducted that piece.
Just beautiful.
And it just takes you, you know, it takes you so far above politics and out of politics and into yourself and into the life of the mind that is really a wonderful thing, which is why I so recommend that people take time to go back to the great culture.
And I want to end with stuff I like.
One of the, one of, maybe, is he the greatest American poet?
He's certainly among the handful, if you had to name, you could not name five great American poets, is Walt Whitman.
And Walt Whitman is kind of our national poet.
And he was part of, he was on the cusp of a movement called Transcendentalism, which I'm always been very fascinated by, because it was kind of the American version of British Romanticism.
More religious, more independent, more based on the individual.
It was a lot of like breaking away from the past and tradition that a person could find within himself.
He could find within himself the right path and the right guide, a very American, self-reliant, you know, based very big on the idea of self-reliance, which I think was an Emerson phrase.
But Walt Whitman wrote this book, Leaves of Grass, which at the time was viciously attacked as being pornographic.
And there's a lot of talk about Whitman's sexuality.
Most people think he was gay.
He claimed he wasn't.
He claimed that he had fathered six illegitimate children, but most people feel that he was probably a gay guy, but I don't know.
But the book itself, it's not poetry like you've ever heard before.
It's kind of the first modern poetry, but it's just, it's got a different voice.
It's something you haven't heard.
And I picked one very short piece because it kind of spoke to me in the moment, in the moment when I sort of felt this week.
This week kind of weighed on me, you know.
I really dislike these Nazi guys, and I dislike the press lying about them, and I dislike them ginning up the hatred between people and these guys pulling down the statues.
They're the worst people in our country.
The anti-Fa people and the Nazis and the press.
They are the worst people in this country.
They represent a very, very small number of people.
When you saw those people, both the guy who was upset at Trump and the three ladies who were supporting Trump, you know, you see those people and you realize, you know, Americans are, most Americans are such decent people.
I've traveled everywhere in this country and they really are wonderful people.
These little groups of dirtbags, to use the technical term.
I don't like to use scientific terms, but these dirtbags to set us against each other is just really weighing on me.
And Walt Whitman wrote this poem called O Me, O Life.
And O Me, of course, an old-fashioned way of saying, oh, you know, I'm sad.
Basically, I'm sad.
Oh, me, oh, life.
Life is weighing on him too heavily.
And he writes, oh, me, oh, life, of the questions of these recurring, these questions, these deep questions that we have that keep coming back to us, of the endless trains of the faithless, of cities filled with the foolish, of myself forever reproaching myself for who is more foolish than I and who is more faithless, of eyes that vainly crave the light of the objects mean, of the struggle ever renewed,
of the poor results of all, of the plotting and sordid crowds I see around me, of the empty and useless years of the rest with the rest, me, intertwined.
The question, oh me, oh sad, recurring, the question is, what good amid these, oh me, oh life.
And then he answers the question.
He just has the word answer.
The question is, the answer to what good is all this is that you are here, that life exists and identity, that the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse.
And you may, and you may, and we all may if we follow what's right and what's good.
I'm Andrew Clavin.
This is the Andrew Clavin Show.
The Clavenless weekend begins.
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