Knowledge Fight - #1126: Do Not Drink In The Pool
Aired: 2026-03-20
Duration: 01:29:51


=== Welcome to Knowledge Fight (05:38) ===

[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody.
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:02]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:02]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:07]  Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:09]  Dan Jordan, Jordan.
[00:01:11]  Quick question for you.
[00:01:11]  What's up?
[00:01:13]  How's Survivor doing?
[00:01:14]  You know what?
[00:01:15]  I got to stop you because I have a bright spot.
[00:01:17]  I go first in the month of March as his tradition.
[00:01:20]  Okay.
[00:01:21]  And I'm not talking about survival.
[00:01:22]  Okay, okay.
[00:01:23]  Don't talk about survivor.
[00:01:24]  I want to talk about it.
[00:01:25]  Okay.
[00:01:25]  I had fun with this bit, but maybe it's just, maybe it's run its course.
[00:01:29]  Who knows?
[00:01:30]  I don't really have that many things to say about it.
[00:01:32]  Bits come and go.
[00:01:33]  Anyway, it's a boomerang bit, if you will.
[00:01:35]  Yeah, and it has come back to me.
[00:01:36]  And now I'd like to drop it.
[00:01:40]  And no, my bright spot, I'm going to throw out the movie Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die.
[00:01:46]  Oh, yeah.
[00:01:47]  I watched that.
[00:01:48]  Checked that out.
[00:01:49]  Had a great time with it.
[00:01:50]  Grand movie.
[00:01:51]  Such fun.
[00:01:51]  Yep.
[00:01:52]  Sam Rockwell is just on fire.
[00:01:55]  Perfect.
[00:01:56]  Just a nice, goofy, fun time that also feels like it's saying something.
[00:02:01]  Yep.
[00:02:02]  I mean, no notes.
[00:02:03]  Fantastic job, guys.
[00:02:06]  If you don't like parts of it, yeah, that's fine.
[00:02:08]  People don't like parts of it.
[00:02:09]  But I thought it was great.
[00:02:10]  Yeah.
[00:02:11]  And I think that it really benefited from this doing something new.
[00:02:16]  Sure.
[00:02:17]  Lately, which is I'm going into movies not knowing anything about what's going on.
[00:02:22]  Yeah.
[00:02:23]  Just complete, complete blank slate.
[00:02:25]  Yeah.
[00:02:26]  And I think that not knowing what this was going to be like or how this, you know, I think that really made the experience a lot better.
[00:02:34]  Yeah.
[00:02:34]  I agree.
[00:02:35]  Like, I can't, I'm sure Hamnet is good.
[00:02:39]  But are you?
[00:02:40]  No.
[00:02:40]  Okay.
[00:02:40]  But I know too much.
[00:02:43]  I've seen too much.
[00:02:45]  About the characters, about the play.
[00:02:49]  I saw the trailer, and that's too much.
[00:02:52]  That is too much.
[00:02:52]  I saw the trailer for Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die.
[00:02:55]  I didn't really know what the fuck is going on here.
[00:02:58]  This could go a hundred different directions.
[00:03:00]  Nope.
[00:03:00]  I feel like I know Hamnet.
[00:03:02]  Hamnet told you exactly what you were going to see.
[00:03:05]  And you don't really need to see that.
[00:03:06]  They might do it well.
[00:03:08]  Maybe they did.
[00:03:10]  I don't care.
[00:03:11]  Nope.
[00:03:11]  Not particularly.
[00:03:12]  Not going to see Hamnet.
[00:03:13]  No.
[00:03:14]  Not going to see the Smashing Machine.
[00:03:15]  No.
[00:03:15]  You can't make me.
[00:03:16]  No.
[00:03:16]  I'll never see Nuremberg either.
[00:03:18]  Not going to happen.
[00:03:19]  That's on your list of the you can't watch that.
[00:03:22]  No, I see it.
[00:03:23]  I know what it is.
[00:03:24]  I know the guy.
[00:03:25]  I even know some of the stories about how articulate and bullshit.
[00:03:28]  Fuck that.
[00:03:29]  I don't need to see the movie.
[00:03:30]  Fine.
[00:03:30]  Yeah.
[00:03:31]  I'm not making you.
[00:03:32]  Yeah, I don't want to.
[00:03:33]  So what's your bright spot?
[00:03:34]  My bright spot, Dan, is that sometimes we go out of this room to do a version of our show in a place with other people.
[00:03:45]  That has happened.
[00:03:46]  Yeah.
[00:03:46]  And so my bright spot is that we'll be doing it again.
[00:03:49]  What?
[00:03:50]  Yep.
[00:03:51]  On May 16th.
[00:03:52]  Huh?
[00:03:53]  Yeah.
[00:03:53]  You better believe it at Two Brothers Roundhouse.
[00:03:58]  Yep.
[00:03:59]  So what you can do is go get tickets on Saturday morning at 9 a.m.
[00:04:04]  That's when the tickets will go live.
[00:04:05]  We'll put the link in the description to this episode.
[00:04:09]  It's a smaller venue, so like, you know, probably might sell out for the next one.
[00:04:14]  Yeah, I would send an alarm.
[00:04:16]  Come, do it.
[00:04:18]  I mean, it would not bother us at all if it took like two months to sell.
[00:04:23]  No big deal.
[00:04:24]  But if I was you, I would send an alarm at nine.
[00:04:28]  It's a nice brewery.
[00:04:29]  Yep.
[00:04:30]  Our friend Matt Drufke does a show there.
[00:04:31]  Absolutely.
[00:04:32]  We're excited to do a show.
[00:04:33]  Yeah.
[00:04:33]  Yeah.
[00:04:34]  It'll be great.
[00:04:35]  I think this is the first show in Chicago since that one at the playground where no one came because no one knew what our show was.
[00:04:42]  Yep.
[00:04:43]  I mean, and it's not even in Chicago.
[00:04:46]  It's fair.
[00:04:47]  Chicagoland.
[00:04:48]  Greater Chicagoland area.
[00:04:49]  But man, for all those people.
[00:04:52]  Nothing quite like when we did that show at the playground.
[00:04:56]  And in the middle of the show, someone in the audience asked me to pass the 30-pack of beer that was on stage.
[00:05:04]  Amazing.
[00:05:06]  And of course, we did.
[00:05:07]  They got it.
[00:05:08]  Types of change.
[00:05:10]  What an interesting.
[00:05:11]  I bet none of them even have any clue that there were like four people.
[00:05:18]  No, Kevin.
[00:05:19]  Because like Kevin Hogan and Nate Burroughs.
[00:05:21]  Burroughs left.
[00:05:22]  Your wife was there.
[00:05:24]  I know my wife.
[00:05:24]  Four people there were our friends.
[00:05:25]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:05:27]  I'm pretty sure there were four people there.
[00:05:29]  Derek Smith.
[00:05:29]  Smith was there.
[00:05:30]  Derek Smith was definitely there.
[00:05:32]  Absolutely.
[00:05:32]  I think that was where he gave us those shirts.
[00:05:35]  Yeah, the ketchup and mustard shirts.
[00:05:37]  Those are great.
[00:05:38]  Yeah.
[00:05:38]  Yep.
[00:05:39]  It's all memory lane.
[00:05:40]  Anyway, two brothers.
[00:05:41]  Two brothers.
[00:05:43]  Tickets on sale Saturday.
[00:05:44]  Saturday morning, 9 a.m. Central Time.
[00:05:47]  Fun.
[00:05:48]  Yeah.
[00:05:48]  So, Jordan, today is something less fun.
[00:05:50]  We have an episode to go over.
[00:05:52]  And we'll talk about it in a moment.
[00:05:53]  But first, let's take a moment to say hello to some new wonks.
[00:05:56]  That's a great idea.
[00:05:57]  So first, thank you for coming to Portland and for getting me through my commute.
[00:06:00]  I will never see 420 the same way again.
[00:06:03]  Holly, thank you so much.
[00:06:04]  You're an AOL Policy Wonk.
[00:06:05]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:06]  Thank you very much.
[00:06:07]  AC Green.
[00:06:08]  Yep.
[00:06:08]  Yep.
[00:06:09]  Next, D-Magic Loves Dan's rap references.
[00:06:12]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:13]  You're an AIO policy wonk.
[00:06:14]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:15]  Thank you very much.
[00:06:16]  Thank you.
[00:06:16]  And tell Alyssa Moore that Lee Man loves her and the horse she rode in on.
[00:06:21]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:22]  You're an Iowa Policy Walk.
[00:06:23]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:24]  Thank you very much.
[00:06:25]  Thank you.
[00:06:25]  And we got a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.
[00:06:27]  So thank you so much to Can My Dog Wink be a policy wonk?
[00:06:30]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:31]  You're an Ao Technocrat.
[00:06:32]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:33]  Four stars.
[00:06:34]  Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

=== Defending Unwanted Beliefs (08:03) ===

[00:06:37]  Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
[00:06:39]  Daddy Shark.
[00:06:40]  Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
[00:06:46]  He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
[00:06:49]  I don't want to hate black people.
[00:06:50]  I renounce Jesus Christ.
[00:06:52]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:53]  Thank you very much.
[00:06:54]  So things are bad for Alex.
[00:06:57]  Sure.
[00:06:58]  You know, he's going about his business and having to defend all kinds of things that he shouldn't be defending.
[00:07:05]  Yeah.
[00:07:06]  And, you know, the March 7th date has come and gone with his possibly going out of business.
[00:07:13]  And so it just bores me that we're going to have to stay in the present day and talk about his show.
[00:07:19]  Yeah.
[00:07:20]  Oh, my God.
[00:07:21]  Oh, my God.
[00:07:23]  Who is that?
[00:07:24]  Who's that coming down?
[00:07:25]  Is that Tim Poo?
[00:07:26]  Oh, my God.
[00:07:27]  Is that Tim Pool?
[00:07:28]  Tim Pool's got a chair.
[00:07:30]  Wait, who's Tim Poole is that guy?
[00:07:32]  Tim Poole's another.
[00:07:33]  Yeah.
[00:07:34]  Yeah.
[00:07:34]  He's one of those guys.
[00:07:35]  Yeah, Alex.
[00:07:36]  Alex was recently on Tim Pool's show.
[00:07:38]  Oh, my God.
[00:07:39]  Why?
[00:07:40]  I don't know.
[00:07:41]  Oh, man.
[00:07:42]  All right.
[00:07:42]  There's a part of me that feels like in this era of Alex, it's kind of more fun to watch him be put upon other people.
[00:07:51]  Yeah, yeah, I agree.
[00:07:52]  There is something about them.
[00:07:54]  There's an inherent embarrassment to them interacting with him that doesn't sue, it doesn't really totally exist for him.
[00:08:03]  Yeah.
[00:08:03]  He's shameless.
[00:08:04]  Right.
[00:08:04]  And so, like, him, he doesn't need to be embarrassed to be himself.
[00:08:08]  Yeah.
[00:08:08]  But these other people should be embarrassed to be talking to him.
[00:08:11]  Yeah, if you've got a man made of shit, then the shit man is like, I know I'm made of shit.
[00:08:17]  You're the one who's covered in shit.
[00:08:19]  I can't get shit on me.
[00:08:21]  Yeah, I am shit.
[00:08:22]  I'm just a shit man.
[00:08:23]  Yeah.
[00:08:24]  You're now, you smell bad now.
[00:08:25]  Yeah.
[00:08:26]  Yeah.
[00:08:26]  So he was on Tim Poole's show and something funny happened.
[00:08:31]  So there we are.
[00:08:32]  Here we are.
[00:08:34]  So in the course of doing this show, one of the biggest and most popular figures in the right-wing media is someone that we've largely ignored.
[00:08:41]  That person is Tim Poole.
[00:08:43]  And the reason I've never really been too interested in covering him is that he's not a serious person with serious convictions.
[00:08:49]  He's really just someone who's interested in attention.
[00:08:51]  And he's made it clear throughout his career that he's willing to lie and contradict himself if there's enough clicks in it for him.
[00:08:57]  So it's not worth trying to grab on.
[00:09:00]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:09:00]  If you go to his pages on Rumble and other platforms, all of his video titles are clickbait bullshit.
[00:09:06]  Like, they finally said it, or it's actually happening.
[00:09:10]  Is it?
[00:09:10]  Yeah, apparently.
[00:09:11]  Oh, good.
[00:09:12]  That's nice.
[00:09:12]  I haven't seen things actually happen for quite some time.
[00:09:15]  Yeah.
[00:09:16]  Russell Brand does the same kind of shit, and Alex has his own version where everything is always an emergency episode.
[00:09:22]  It's a sign of desperation, but also it must work.
[00:09:26]  Even if 80% of the people who see these titles laugh and think you look like a sad child begging for attention, the other 20% might be curious enough to see if this is finally the video with a title like that that pays off, and that might add up to a fair amount of traffic.
[00:09:39]  Enough to pay the bills.
[00:09:40]  Yep.
[00:09:41]  Either way, Tim Poole doesn't suck in the right way for me to find interesting at all.
[00:09:45]  He's a shithead and I hate his beliefs, but I don't believe that his beliefs are sincere.
[00:09:49]  If someone paid him enough, I'm pretty sure he'd say whatever he needed to for the check to clear.
[00:09:54]  Yeah.
[00:09:54]  But Alex was on Tim Poole's show, and I think there's something more appealing about seeing Alex trying to exist in other people's spaces.
[00:10:02]  So we're going to take this in and see what there is to learn, which is not much, and Alex might be dying.
[00:10:07]  Yay!
[00:10:10]  So we start off with Tim Poole.
[00:10:12]  Okay.
[00:10:13]  Talking about the wave of Islamic terrorism that's going on in the United States.
[00:10:19]  Okay.
[00:10:20]  Today we saw two attacks, and we know one of them was a man who yelled Ali Wakbar.
[00:10:27]  The other attack on a synagogue is suspected to be Islamic terror.
[00:10:31]  So the rumors going around are that we have two Islamic terror attacks, possibly retaliation over the war in Iran, which we had seen another terror attack in New York City, the throwing of an improvised explosive device, as well as the attack in Austin.
[00:10:46]  So of course, the expectation is, well, we don't have the complete information on the synagogue attack.
[00:10:50]  It was a vehicle reportedly owned by a man from Lebanon who was naturalized and lived in Dearborn, Michigan.
[00:10:56]  So many people are saying, hey, that, you know, if it looks and sounds like a duck.
[00:11:00]  I feel like Tim likes to present himself as someone who's above the if it looks like a duck level of reasoning.
[00:11:06]  A lot of animals who aren't ducks look like ducks, man.
[00:11:10]  The temple attack that he's talking about in Michigan appears to have been carried out by a guy who has family in Lebanon.
[00:11:15]  The perpetrator died in the attack, thankfully the only casualty of it.
[00:11:19]  So we may never know exactly why he did it, but there are some indications that he had family members in Hezbollah who were killed in Israel's recent strikes on Lebanon.
[00:11:28]  It would be somewhat inaccurate to say that this is the same thing as his attack being inspired by Trump's attack on Iran, but at the same time, there's good reason to believe many of these actions are happening in the shared context of a larger war.
[00:11:41]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:11:42]  So while I don't agree with the way that Tim's framing this, someone else might be able to make a better argument using similar pieces.
[00:11:50]  I was wondering about that.
[00:11:52]  Is it a terror attack?
[00:11:54]  You know?
[00:11:55]  That's a really interesting kind of distinction to make in the context that we're in.
[00:12:01]  Is it a terrorist or is it like a just response?
[00:12:06]  It's not one you like, but.
[00:12:08]  I think if you wanted to make an argument using some definition of terrorist, that this isn't terrorist terrorism.
[00:12:17]  I think you maybe could be successful with that, but also I think that, generally speaking, the way we use language, it's terrorist stuff.
[00:12:26]  I do not want to make an argument.
[00:12:27]  It was just a thought that I had.
[00:12:29]  So the other attack Tim is talking about was at Old Dominion University, where a former National Guard member shot at students at an ROTC class.
[00:12:37]  He yelled Alau Akbar before shooting, but this also isn't super surprising because he had gotten out of jail recently where he was serving a sentence after pleading guilty to providing material support to ISIS.
[00:12:50]  These are awful tragedies, and no one should have to experience this kind of shit.
[00:12:54]  But from a media messaging standpoint, it's critical to understand that Tim and his ilk need to amp up the idea that there's a clear and existential threat from Muslims in America.
[00:13:04]  The premise of supporting Trump has become silly at this point.
[00:13:07]  So the only way to keep the public engaged and on board is through a campaign of terror about the enemy within.
[00:13:14]  It's basically a problem reaction solution type thing.
[00:13:17]  Something along those lines.
[00:13:18]  The solution they need to push is voting for Republicans in the 2026 midterms, even though all of these candidates have been shit and Trump is clearly a tyrant.
[00:13:27]  Most people aren't interested in voting for these guys and honestly might not want to even vote at all after all this shit.
[00:13:33]  In order to get the solution that they want, folks like Tim create the appearance of a problem.
[00:13:38]  In this case, widespread out-of-control Muslim terrorism.
[00:13:41]  He'll bang the drum on how this is the biggest problem in the world and how society will collapse unless someone takes care of it.
[00:13:48]  This is his work to help produce the desired reaction, which is having a large segment of the population demand that some leader come along who promises to take care of the Muslim terrorism problem.
[00:13:58]  And if you can make people demand and need this kind of protection from a leader, you can get them to accept the solution they wouldn't have accepted before.
[00:14:06]  You have to vote for all the GOP candidates because if you don't, the Democrats will win and they're working with the Muslim terrorists who want to kill you.
[00:14:14]  What you going to do?
[00:14:15]  Boom.
[00:14:15]  Yeah.
[00:14:16]  Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to look at this and go, Japanese internment camps.
[00:14:21]  We doing that again, huh?
[00:14:22]  All right.
[00:14:23]  Well, Tim had his way.
[00:14:24]  If Tim and Alex, like, based on what they're saying, had their way, it's not too far off.
[00:14:28]  This is the start of that.
[00:14:30]  It's not like they went from zero to Japanese internment camp.
[00:14:34]  There had to be a beginning of like, well, we know these two things are connected, so what do we have to do about that?

=== Why Tim Poole Cares About Money (02:22) ===

[00:14:40]  Yeah.
[00:14:41]  And so on.
[00:14:42]  So Tim has another news story that's going to lead the coverage of the day.
[00:14:46]  Okay.
[00:14:47]  And then, of course, the UK is officially over.
[00:14:50]  They have ended House of Lords.
[00:14:53]  And they're removing their civic leaders from their currency to be replaced by the noble hedgehog and perhaps a beaver and other nature scenes because the tradition is basically gone.
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[00:15:19]  I couldn't tell if he said Beam Dream.
[00:15:21]  I heard that.
[00:15:23]  Yeah.
[00:15:23]  I don't know.
[00:15:24]  Anyway, the House of Lords is one of the chambers of parliament, and they recently adopted a bill that would remove the remaining people who are in the body just because of a title that was handed down to them generations.
[00:15:34]  Yeah, obviously, that makes sense.
[00:15:36]  This is a continuation of a bill from 1999 that limited the number of hereditary peers who could sit in the House to 92.
[00:15:43]  And honestly, the House of Lords is kind of silly.
[00:15:45]  Obviously.
[00:15:46]  It includes 26 members who are known as the Lords Spiritual because they're archbishops and church figures, and then the rest are Lords Temporal.
[00:15:54]  Great.
[00:15:54]  Amazing.
[00:15:55]  Come on, let the Brits be Brits.
[00:15:58]  Jesus Christ.
[00:15:59]  Crazy stuff.
[00:16:00]  Anyway, the UK isn't over, unless Tim thinks that power being handed down generationally is a good thing, which I think he will say later.
[00:16:08]  Great.
[00:16:09]  Also, Tim's just an idiot about the pound.
[00:16:11]  In 2025, they decided to explore putting conservation-themed fronts on the bills, replacing the previous series that had featured folks like Winston Churchill, Alan Turing, and Jane Austen.
[00:16:22]  That was series G of the currency, and it was introduced in 2011, but it was never meant to be permanent.
[00:16:28]  Prior to that, they had series F that featured a 20-pound note with Adam Smith on it, and series E that had Darwin on the 10.
[00:16:36]  All the while, the queen was on the other side of those bills, and that's not changing, except it'll be the king.
[00:16:41]  This naturally raises the question of why the fuck does Tim Poole care about the aesthetic design of another country's money?
[00:16:48]  My question.
[00:16:49]  And the other, like, the obvious answer is that he doesn't.
[00:16:53]  One of his staff just skimmed past a headline on Twitter or in the Daily Mail, and they decided that it was good enough to fake some concern about, and hopefully they can kill a few minutes of the show talking about it.

=== Jokes at the White House (15:47) ===

[00:17:03]  This is just wasting time between ads.
[00:17:06]  It couldn't be more like dumb morning radio.
[00:17:11]  Yep.
[00:17:11]  Like, we've got a new British pound.
[00:17:14]  Does that mean we're going to get rid of hereditary titles?
[00:17:17]  Right.
[00:17:18]  We have to fill time.
[00:17:22]  So much time.
[00:17:23]  You don't even know how much time we have to fill.
[00:17:26]  If you've ever tried to do morning radio, it never ends.
[00:17:30]  Ironically, Tim Poole is creating the exact thing that podcasting succeeded in spite of.
[00:17:37]  It was a reaction to the vapidity of that form of content.
[00:17:42]  What if we just didn't have to?
[00:17:45]  What if instead of having to do four hours of nonsense, we could just do the stuff that is sense?
[00:17:52]  Yeah, cut the fat off this thing.
[00:17:54]  Somehow that was like turned around on us and going like, well, we need to fit four different ad breaks.
[00:18:01]  So that means that you need to record for at least two hours.
[00:18:04]  That means we need to have at least three to six minutes of ads.
[00:18:07]  YouTube's algorithms have made it so they've prioritized launch time.
[00:18:12]  And so these videos that I put out have to be at least two hours long.
[00:18:16]  Oh, fuck.
[00:18:18]  Anyway, it sucks.
[00:18:19]  It does.
[00:18:19]  And it reminds me of bad stuff I used to listen to on Y107.
[00:18:24]  Yep.
[00:18:25]  Anyway, another story that he covers before bringing Alex in is about Rogan.
[00:18:31]  Sure.
[00:18:32]  They're going to do this UFC event at the White House.
[00:18:34]  Yeah, got rid of the UFC of Lords.
[00:18:37]  No.
[00:18:38]  They're going to do a big UFC event at the White House.
[00:18:40]  Did you know about this?
[00:18:42]  Of course I didn't know about this.
[00:18:43]  Big punch event at the White House.
[00:18:45]  Love it.
[00:18:45]  Because it's man stuff in America.
[00:18:46]  It's a man's stuff.
[00:18:47]  And so Rogan is like, hey, it seemed, look, it's a little ways down the road.
[00:18:53]  Yeah.
[00:18:54]  But it seems weird to be doing that while we're at war with Iran.
[00:18:58]  It seems like we would be bringing a ton of people at the same place at the same time, creating a great opportunity for someone to attack the event.
[00:19:06]  Yeah.
[00:19:06]  And so that's Rogan's like, he's not saying don't do it.
[00:19:09]  He's just saying kind of like, I hope the war is over by then.
[00:19:12]  Right, right, right.
[00:19:13]  I mean, you know, put the president in the middle and see how it looks from the space.
[00:19:17]  And maybe it's a bullseye.
[00:19:19]  So Alex does not, he comes in and he does not like the idea of Rogan being such a wuss.
[00:19:27]  Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the great Alex Jones.
[00:19:31]  Oh boy.
[00:19:32]  The great.
[00:19:33]  Who are you?
[00:19:34]  What do you do?
[00:19:35]  I was thinking about Joe Rogan's vagina right now.
[00:19:38]  That's a weird way to introduce yourself, Alex.
[00:19:41]  Well, Joe's like, I love Joe.
[00:19:42]  Like, oh, my God, we better not have an event.
[00:19:44]  The terrorists might get us.
[00:19:46]  We just give up and go away.
[00:19:48]  We can't ever have a meeting because the Iranians might stick their ding-dong us.
[00:19:52]  I think Joe's afraid of the Iranian ding-dong.
[00:19:56]  You're a Joe Rogan commentator professional?
[00:19:58]  Oh, I like Joe.
[00:20:00]  I'm surprised by Joe saying that.
[00:20:03]  Coming out the gate.
[00:20:05]  I would, here's what I would say: here's what I would say: the first thing I would say to Alex would be, You're drunk.
[00:20:10]  How about that?
[00:20:11]  We should probably not do this.
[00:20:13]  We don't have to.
[00:20:14]  Would you like some beam dream?
[00:20:16]  This is go to sleep.
[00:20:17]  This isn't live, guys.
[00:20:18]  We've been resting.
[00:20:20]  It is live.
[00:20:21]  Oh, fuck you, idiots, you fucking idiots.
[00:20:24]  No, it is.
[00:20:24]  Oh, my God.
[00:20:25]  Jesus Christ.
[00:20:27]  Yeah, but still, you could say, hey, this is live.
[00:20:30]  You can't be here.
[00:20:31]  Hey, I just got a text from your agent.
[00:20:33]  Right?
[00:20:34]  Get out of here.
[00:20:35]  Buddy, you are drunk.
[00:20:36]  So, hey, listen, you're drunk.
[00:20:38]  And you know what?
[00:20:39]  That'll be fun for me.
[00:20:40]  But let me just be clear to my audience.
[00:20:42]  This man's shit-faced.
[00:20:44]  You shouldn't listen to a shit-faced man.
[00:20:46]  Oh, I think they recognize it.
[00:20:47]  And I think that the other guys there, the other sidekicks, are kind of laughing at Alex.
[00:20:52]  Yeah.
[00:20:52]  Like, oh, let's have a USC event.
[00:20:54]  Why don't the Iranians get us?
[00:20:56]  I mean, I'm against the war, let's be clear.
[00:20:58]  But let's keep the buses and the trains and the airplanes on time.
[00:21:02]  Let's not fucking, oh, the fucking Iranians might get it.
[00:21:05]  He's already swearing.
[00:21:06]  I'm already swearing.
[00:21:07]  Gotta follow every little AI rule.
[00:21:09]  No, no, here's the deal: let's all just hide in Joe Rogan's vagina and then we'll all be safe.
[00:21:15]  Jesus.
[00:21:16]  Good to have you, Alex.
[00:21:16]  It's gonna be fun.
[00:21:17]  We can all be aware of it.
[00:21:18]  Joe Rogan vagina.
[00:21:19]  Luke is safe.
[00:21:20]  Can we all just fly up into it?
[00:21:22]  We're all safe.
[00:21:23]  Safe in Joe Rogan.
[00:21:24]  Thanks for coming.
[00:21:25]  Luke.
[00:21:26]  What an introduction.
[00:21:28]  Like, safe under her black wings.
[00:21:30]  I'm saving Joe Rogan's big-ass pussy vagina.
[00:21:34]  Well, there you go.
[00:21:36]  Yep.
[00:21:36]  It's killing.
[00:21:38]  I mean.
[00:21:39]  Yep.
[00:21:40]  That is.
[00:21:40]  That is some.
[00:21:41]  Oh, I don't.
[00:21:43]  Okay.
[00:21:43]  I don't think I'll say her name.
[00:21:45]  All right.
[00:21:46]  But I will say this.
[00:21:48]  There was an open mic way back in the day at the Laugh Out Loud Theater.
[00:21:53]  And there was this person who had a character called Madge Jablonski.
[00:21:58]  And it was painfully, painfully unfunny, which is why it was the funniest thing that I'd ever seen.
[00:22:04]  And so it got to this situation where she would say something and the audience would go, no.
[00:22:10]  But then they'd all turn around to look at me because I was cackling like a hyena.
[00:22:14]  That's what that felt like whenever he was saying that.
[00:22:16]  I was like, no, no rational human being should enjoy this.
[00:22:20]  That's why I love it.
[00:22:21]  Maybe it would be safe in Joe Rogan's pussy.
[00:22:23]  Yep.
[00:22:24]  Perfect.
[00:22:24]  That's brilliant.
[00:22:25]  Do more of that.
[00:22:27]  More.
[00:22:28]  Someone pay him for this.
[00:22:30]  Do you not hear the genius happening right now?
[00:22:33]  Joe Rogan's vagina?
[00:22:35]  What?
[00:22:35]  Unprompted.
[00:22:37]  He doesn't have one, according to life.
[00:22:40]  And this is inspired by Rogan being like, I would be a little careful about these kinds of like a large event like the UFC at the at the White House in the middle of a war.
[00:22:49]  Yeah.
[00:22:49]  Yo, fucking vagina, man.
[00:22:54]  It's awesome.
[00:22:55]  So stuff.
[00:22:56]  What's the movie about the president getting kidnapped?
[00:23:00]  Olympus has fallen?
[00:23:02]  Something like that?
[00:23:03]  White House down.
[00:23:03]  Yeah, White House down.
[00:23:05]  White House is down.
[00:23:06]  White House down.
[00:23:08]  So Alex, I think he realizes his jokes aren't going over great.
[00:23:13]  Yeah.
[00:23:14]  And so he decides to pivot and ask them to fight.
[00:23:19]  Luke's here.
[00:23:20]  There's that.
[00:23:20]  Yes.
[00:23:20]  I don't know how to do it.
[00:23:23]  Good to be here with some old friends.
[00:23:24]  I declare war on Joe Rogan.
[00:23:26]  God has ordered me.
[00:23:28]  I love Joe.
[00:23:29]  Joe.
[00:23:30]  He's going to show up at your house.
[00:23:31]  Okay.
[00:23:31]  I guess.
[00:23:33]  Luke's here.
[00:23:33]  Yeah.
[00:23:33]  Hi, guys.
[00:23:35]  I don't know what you're saying.
[00:23:36]  You all on right now.
[00:23:36]  You guys are fucking tough.
[00:23:38]  You guys, you're pretty tough.
[00:23:39]  How about we just fucking fight right now?
[00:23:41]  You're fucking real, man.
[00:23:42]  All of you.
[00:23:43]  Come on.
[00:23:44]  Let's go.
[00:23:44]  Everyone of you, let's go.
[00:23:46]  Let's grab those fucking badass more.
[00:23:48]  Come on, let's go.
[00:23:50]  Did you fucking take me?
[00:23:51]  Let's see what happens in there.
[00:23:52]  I think I can take you.
[00:23:53]  No, you can't.
[00:23:54]  Why don't you fucking do it now?
[00:23:55]  Every fucking man in here.
[00:23:56]  One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
[00:23:59]  Let's go.
[00:24:00]  Eight, let's go.
[00:24:01]  Robbie will fight you.
[00:24:02]  I'm ready.
[00:24:03]  Robbie.
[00:24:03]  I'm ready.
[00:24:04]  That's a big motherfucker over there.
[00:24:05]  I'm ready for war.
[00:24:06]  I'm ready for war.
[00:24:09]  Yeah, that's good.
[00:24:10]  It didn't take long to challenge people to a fight.
[00:24:13]  No, everyone.
[00:24:14]  Yeah.
[00:24:14]  All of you.
[00:24:15]  You're mad and I'll fight you.
[00:24:16]  Like most sober people do within less than five minutes he challenged everyone there to a fight.
[00:24:21]  Yeah.
[00:24:22]  I don't know if Alex can really understand that in that moment, everyone is laughing at him.
[00:24:26]  Like he's a clown dancing around for their entertainment.
[00:24:29]  Yep.
[00:24:29]  And that's all good and well, but I want to focus on how Alex is joking about declaring war on Joe Rogan, and he says that it's what God told him to do.
[00:24:37]  He's obviously joking, and we're not supposed to take it seriously that God told him to fight Joe, but this introduces a real problem.
[00:24:44]  There are other times that Alex says God told him to do things, and we're supposed to hear that not as a joke.
[00:24:51]  And because of that dynamic, Alex, this kind of joking is abusive to the audience.
[00:24:57]  If you're a prophet and you publicly define yourself as someone who God speaks through, then you need to carry yourself with a very strict level of respect for God's word.
[00:25:06]  You can't joke about God telling you to do something because God does tell you to do things.
[00:25:11]  So what if someone listening doesn't get that you were joking about it this time?
[00:25:15]  You've just committed blasphemy and possibly encouraged someone to do something evil thinking that God commanded them to through you.
[00:25:23]  Regardless of how anyone is treating him or how clearly drunk Alex is, his actions and jokes make it clear to anyone watching that God is a joke to him.
[00:25:31]  Being told things by God is a joke to him.
[00:25:34]  Prophecy is a joke to him, and the audience is the butt of the joke.
[00:25:39]  That's not cool.
[00:25:41]  It's a fun character, right?
[00:25:43]  The drunk priest who, like, I believe, but do I really believe?
[00:25:47]  Because I'm drunk.
[00:25:47]  Bye, bye, bye, you know?
[00:25:49]  But if you think about, like, can you imagine Elijah, right, setting that pillar on fire and then gets shit faced later on that night and is like, ha ha, I might do it to you?
[00:26:00]  I can just send people up.
[00:26:01]  God goes and burn that guy.
[00:26:03]  No, I'm just fucking with you.
[00:26:04]  I'm not going to get God to.
[00:26:05]  Or wait am I?
[00:26:06]  You don't know.
[00:26:07]  I can call fire from the sky.
[00:26:09]  No, it's stupid.
[00:26:10]  Yeah, it's crazy.
[00:26:11]  It's when you combine this with who he wants to be seen as as a prophet.
[00:26:18]  Come on, man.
[00:26:18]  You can't do it.
[00:26:19]  No.
[00:26:20]  You just, you can't.
[00:26:21]  Sometimes there's room for being a little bit of a goofball, but I don't know.
[00:26:28]  I just feel like God probably isn't there for that.
[00:26:31]  I think you can do it as long as everyone's laughing at you.
[00:26:34]  Sure.
[00:26:35]  But the world that we live in now with the people who are in the powerful positions that they are, it's not.
[00:26:41]  Probably not wise.
[00:26:42]  No.
[00:26:43]  So Alex, I think he can tell that there's discomfort because his jokes aren't landing and now he's threatening to fight everybody.
[00:26:50]  Sure.
[00:26:51]  And so he tries to explain to Tim, like, hey, man, I'm giving you viral content here.
[00:26:56]  I'm ready to fucking live in Joe Rogan's vagina.
[00:27:01]  Let's start with the news.
[00:27:03]  Hey, I just gave you the most viral clip of the year to joke.
[00:27:06]  You're trying to.
[00:27:07]  Comedy, I love Joe.
[00:27:08]  I suck his pussy every night.
[00:27:10]  It's just that.
[00:27:11]  It's Lizzie Brown when he puts it in the middle of the morning.
[00:27:13]  He tried to be family friendly.
[00:27:15]  We're all neocon.
[00:27:16]  I'm not going to get the show taken down.
[00:27:20]  I'm with the engineer.
[00:27:21]  I'm like, get the show taken.
[00:27:22]  Oh, Lindsay.
[00:27:23]  Oh, Lindsay.
[00:27:24]  And like, and I watch like Rubio gets in, and then, and then in comes Hugabee with his 12-foot, and they just boom, boom.
[00:27:32]  The aristocrats.
[00:27:33]  How could he be sad long, huh?
[00:27:34]  That's what I do.
[00:27:39]  Those neocon cocks.
[00:27:40]  And then y'all comes in with an A-footer.
[00:27:44]  I imagine Huckabee's watching being like, I'm kind of offended, but that is a compliment.
[00:27:48]  I think that Alex is drunk.
[00:27:51]  Yeah.
[00:27:52]  I mean, that's all I think.
[00:27:55]  Here's what I think.
[00:27:56]  He's having weird, sort of violent, homoerotic fantasies.
[00:28:01]  Yeah.
[00:28:02]  And he's drunk.
[00:28:03]  My feeling on this is Tim Poole has already made a huge mistake.
[00:28:08]  Yeah.
[00:28:08]  Right.
[00:28:09]  I think he's realized his mistake.
[00:28:10]  Right, exactly.
[00:28:12]  And his response to that is incorrect.
[00:28:14]  He's going to try and get a handle on this.
[00:28:16]  He's trying to interrupt.
[00:28:17]  He's trying to be on top of it.
[00:28:18]  My man, you let him cook.
[00:28:20]  You just let this dude cook and then see what happens.
[00:28:22]  Yeah.
[00:28:23]  You got to be there to pick up the pieces.
[00:28:24]  You're not going to be able to direct to the train.
[00:28:27]  No, there's no conducting this orchestra.
[00:28:29]  Nope.
[00:28:29]  It is.
[00:28:30]  Whatever is going to happen is just going to happen.
[00:28:33]  Yep.
[00:28:34]  And yeah, I think that he's foolish to think he can host, even though he outnumbers Alex like four to one in the middle.
[00:28:41]  Literally four to one.
[00:28:43]  Perhaps eight men there or something to fight.
[00:28:45]  One of them is Luke Radowski, Ludkowski, however you're supposed to pronounce it.
[00:28:50]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:28:51]  Alex's old buddy from We Are Change.
[00:28:53]  So you think like maybe this is going to help.
[00:28:55]  It's not.
[00:28:56]  Nope.
[00:28:56]  Another guy is Ian, who Alex is friends with.
[00:29:00]  I don't remember why he's come up before in the past, but we've talked about him.
[00:29:05]  Yeah.
[00:29:06]  So you think you have like allies.
[00:29:08]  Nope.
[00:29:09]  But it doesn't matter.
[00:29:10]  Too weak.
[00:29:10]  He's too drunk.
[00:29:11]  Yep.
[00:29:12]  Yep.
[00:29:13]  When the sauce takes him, you are along for the ride.
[00:29:16]  But it's also interesting, like if you play out his fantasy that he's discussing, all of these neocons have giant dicks.
[00:29:23]  Yep.
[00:29:24]  And they're all fucking Trump.
[00:29:25]  Yep.
[00:29:25]  Like Trump doesn't have agency in this.
[00:29:28]  He is the receptive person who this is being done to.
[00:29:33]  I think Alex needs to recontextualize his world to understand that Trump is someone with a dick who's doing the fucking, too.
[00:29:40]  You know, he's someone who has control over what he's doing.
[00:29:44]  Right.
[00:29:45]  I think I think a lot of people.
[00:29:46]  So with humor for for, you know, for comedians and stuff, we've written jokes.
[00:29:51]  We've done all this stuff.
[00:29:52]  But for a lot of people experiencing it, I think they see humor as a as like, oh, there's some things being hidden spoken about there.
[00:30:02]  which is not always the case.
[00:30:03]  But in this case, I think he's saying things that he's not supposed to be saying in his mind.
[00:30:08]  Sure.
[00:30:08]  You know?
[00:30:09]  Yeah.
[00:30:09]  Like, this is inhibitions that aren't there.
[00:30:12]  And he's not thinking.
[00:30:14]  Well, I think part of it is the crassness of it.
[00:30:16]  He thinks that crass just equals humor.
[00:30:18]  That's definitely true.
[00:30:20]  But whatever.
[00:30:21]  Yeah.
[00:30:21]  Not funny.
[00:30:22]  Nope.
[00:30:22]  So they play the clip of Rogan expressing his peace.
[00:30:26]  And you get the sense that Alex, I don't know if he's even here.
[00:30:30]  Here's the story from the Daily Mail.
[00:30:32]  Joe Rogan fears White House will be targeted by Iran during UFC event.
[00:30:37]  We have a short clip for you.
[00:30:38]  It's only 40 seconds, but we'll play it to give you the context of what Joe was talking about.
[00:30:41]  Are you excited for the White House card?
[00:30:43]  That looks really good.
[00:30:45]  Yes.
[00:30:46]  I'm excited.
[00:30:47]  It sounds crazy.
[00:30:48]  I know it's going to be very high security and high stress and weird to have a fight in the middle of a fucking war.
[00:30:56]  I would hope the war will be sorted out by June, but quite honestly, I'm not confident that that's going to be the case.
[00:31:03]  No.
[00:31:04]  Yeah, no.
[00:31:04]  Yeah, so that would be weird.
[00:31:06]  Having this very high-profile event where everybody's in one place at one time right there.
[00:31:09]  I hadn't thought of that.
[00:31:10]  Yeah.
[00:31:11]  So you're not excited to be there?
[00:31:14]  It seems like you're asking for.
[00:31:15]  Holy shit.
[00:31:16]  I haven't thought of that at all.
[00:31:17]  How could you not think of that?
[00:31:18]  Because I'm not going to be there.
[00:31:19]  You're the one who has to think of it.
[00:31:22]  Because Joe Rogan is the goddess.
[00:31:24]  His holy vagina realizes it's a threat.
[00:31:28]  I don't.
[00:31:29]  I am not really concerned about the White House itself.
[00:31:31]  You know, of all the places we secure in this country, Iran's not going to do anything at the White House.
[00:31:36]  Yeah, no, I love Joe, but I mean, that is a major pussy statement.
[00:31:40]  What?
[00:31:42]  Where are you, man?
[00:31:46]  Tim, you're not going to win this.
[00:31:48]  No.
[00:31:50]  There's no win.
[00:31:51]  You have fucked up.
[00:31:53]  Yeah.
[00:31:54]  And sort of by acting like you're taking this seriously, you lose more.
[00:31:59]  You dig yourself deeper in the quicksand.
[00:32:01]  Yeah.
[00:32:02]  Yeah.
[00:32:03]  Well, what do you think?
[00:32:04]  What are you talking about?
[00:32:06]  You have a drunk gorilla sitting next to you.
[00:32:08]  Who really wants to talk about vaginas?
[00:32:10]  He just challenged everyone to a fight.
[00:32:12]  Oh, fight all of you in Instagram is a big dick.
[00:32:16]  He's not going to be like, oh, I'm sorry.
[00:32:19]  Have I gone too far?
[00:32:20]  I'll pull it back a little bit.
[00:32:22]  And I'm doing this for funny.
[00:32:24]  Because funny.
[00:32:25]  Humor is illegal, Elon told me.
[00:32:28]  There is something funny about watching these people just really do this to themselves.
[00:32:36]  Wait till the end of this.
[00:32:37]  I think you're going to go on a ride.
[00:32:40]  So Alex and Tim and the collection of brilliant minds around the table, they're talking about attacking Iran.
[00:32:50]  Sure.

=== The Insanity of Israel Politics (15:01) ===

[00:32:51]  And Trump should have done it differently.
[00:32:53]  You heard what Rubio said about why we got involved.
[00:32:56]  Israel was going to make an attack on Iran.
[00:32:58]  We knew that there would be a retaliation targeting the United States.
[00:33:01]  So Rubio says, we don't want to defensive posture.
[00:33:03]  So he decided to go in with them.
[00:33:05]  Which they had a testimony in Congress two days ago confirming that.
[00:33:08]  So Israel made us do this.
[00:33:10]  You know me.
[00:33:10]  I'm not the guy with a heart on for Israel, but Israel should not be calling our shots.
[00:33:15]  Agreed.
[00:33:15]  And I think Trump should have been like, good luck.
[00:33:18]  Yeah, because if they'd responded and attacked us, then we could have been like, hey, we have no choice now.
[00:33:22]  Exactly.
[00:33:22]  But this makes us look like an aggressor.
[00:33:24]  Exactly.
[00:33:24]  We should have taken the attack.
[00:33:25]  Just look like.
[00:33:27]  Then blow the shadow.
[00:33:29]  And there's the challenge, right, because that's – and you know this better than anybody, but the Project for a New American Century, when they – who was it who said – April 2020, we had a Pearl Harbor event to launch the American Empire.
[00:33:42]  And then there was that quote that I think it might have been Rumsfeld saying, sometimes we need a terror attack to remind people of what we're protecting them from.
[00:33:48]  He said we need 3,000 dead.
[00:33:50]  So it seems like these are just dumb guys having a dumb conversation.
[00:33:53]  But if you know about what Alex is supposed to believe and understand what he thinks about the Project for a New American Century, this conversation is actually an invalidation of his whole career.
[00:34:03]  They're saying it was dumb of the United States to attack Iran and get this war going just because they knew that Israel was going to attack Iran.
[00:34:11]  What we should have done is let Israel attack, then wait for Iran to attack us, which we could then use as a pretext to enter the war and not look like people who were itching for a war.
[00:34:21]  If you follow their train of thought, they're just saying exactly what the evil people who wrote the Project for a New American Century document were saying.
[00:34:30]  They were saying that for the public relations purposes, it's always better if you can justify your war as being a response to someone else attacking you.
[00:34:38]  A war in Iraq would require a Pearl Harbor type event, much like World War II literally required a Pearl Harbor.
[00:34:45]  Alex and these idiots are just saying that Trump should have waited for a Pearl Harbor event before launching his war in Iran, which is possibly a good PR argument, but it's fucking insane to hear conspiracy theorists saying that.
[00:34:58]  Let's say that Trump did wait until Iran attacked us before getting involved in the war.
[00:35:03]  Then what?
[00:35:04]  Are we not supposed to think maybe the attack could be a false flag that was done to justify getting us into the war?
[00:35:10]  Like, Alex thinks that 9-11 and Pearl Harbor were both false flags.
[00:35:14]  So why would this one be any different?
[00:35:17]  This is so out of line with the framework that he's built.
[00:35:22]  And he should know that.
[00:35:24]  Yeah.
[00:35:26]  Yeah, it is like they are cognizant of what they are saying.
[00:35:35]  You know, like whenever they're doing this whole like, the new American Century, They're also saying, that is a good idea, though.
[00:35:43]  Yeah.
[00:35:44]  You know, like, that's the unspoken subtext is these people are brilliant.
[00:35:48]  It works.
[00:35:49]  Look at how brilliant they are.
[00:35:50]  That's why we have to be twice as smart.
[00:35:52]  But then they just get here.
[00:35:55]  Because that's just who they are.
[00:35:56]  They are their own enemy.
[00:35:58]  It's in their heads.
[00:35:59]  Right.
[00:35:59]  In that clip, I don't really take too much fault with Ian, who is the one who said that Trump should have waited until we were attacked, and that would justify being involved.
[00:36:13]  Sure.
[00:36:15]  I don't know enough about him or have any feelings about him.
[00:36:19]  So from a neutral standpoint, it is more justified to attack somebody after they attack you than the reverse.
[00:36:27]  So I take his point as like, fine.
[00:36:30]  Sure.
[00:36:31]  Alex responds to that by saying, exactly.
[00:36:34]  And that's the problem.
[00:36:36]  From Alex's standpoint, this can't possibly be an acceptable.
[00:36:40]  These fucking guys are idiots.
[00:36:42]  Yeah.
[00:36:42]  No, it is interesting because it feels like what they are doing is giving the globalists their best tyrant ideas.
[00:36:51]  So then whenever they've got a tyrant, they're just saying exactly what they're regular.
[00:36:56]  That's their idea.
[00:36:57]  Sure.
[00:36:58]  You know, that's all they've got.
[00:36:59]  They don't have better ideas to compete with.
[00:37:02]  Nope.
[00:37:03]  Well, Alex does have one idea.
[00:37:04]  Yeah.
[00:37:05]  It's bad.
[00:37:06]  Pretty bad.
[00:37:06]  Oh, yeah.
[00:37:07]  Well, I'll be honest.
[00:37:08]  If there was a magic red button to send the Muslims to Mars, I'd hit it.
[00:37:12]  That is a bad idea.
[00:37:14]  They just put the head of Al-Qaeda before Trump got in in charge of Syria.
[00:37:18]  Israel created Hamas.
[00:37:20]  So here's the deal.
[00:37:21]  If we were actually fixing it, I'd be for it.
[00:37:24]  Islam's cancer.
[00:37:25]  But we don't fix it.
[00:37:26]  We put worse Muslims in.
[00:37:28]  So yeah, Alex wants genocide of Muslims.
[00:37:31]  Okay.
[00:37:32]  So if we don't fix it, we put worse Muslims in.
[00:37:37]  That's inevitable, apparently.
[00:37:39]  So he would like to take care of the problem with a solution that's final.
[00:37:44]  Yeah.
[00:37:44]  You know?
[00:37:45]  You know?
[00:37:45]  Like a button that sends them all to Mars.
[00:37:48]  Here's a question that I have, right?
[00:37:50]  If all the Muslims were sent to Mars due to one button press, does that make you more or less likely to believe that Allah is the one true God?
[00:38:01]  I don't know, but also I think it makes me more likely to think Allah's got something going on.
[00:38:07]  Yeah, I don't know.
[00:38:08]  Maybe.
[00:38:09]  You're also never going to get rid of all the ideas.
[00:38:11]  Yeah, that would be silly.
[00:38:12]  Maybe what are you going to send all the books to?
[00:38:15]  Maybe there'll be some new Muslims that pop up a couple months down the road.
[00:38:19]  Look, this sucks.
[00:38:20]  It just sucks.
[00:38:21]  It does suck.
[00:38:22]  And Alex is drunk and speaking freely, and so he can just be like, yeah, I want them all gone.
[00:38:27]  I would love it if they were all gone.
[00:38:29]  Yeah, but can you imagine any of these idiots coming up with something along the lines of like, well, have we considered talking to them?
[00:38:36]  No.
[00:38:38]  Have we considered to Alex?
[00:38:44]  They're less than human.
[00:38:45]  Right.
[00:38:45]  You can't talk to them.
[00:38:46]  Right.
[00:38:47]  They don't have God's divine spark in them or something.
[00:38:50]  Anyway, Tim is like, he's sitting there.
[00:38:53]  He's like, hey, everybody's talking about Israel.
[00:38:56]  Yeah.
[00:38:56]  Israel is a hot topic in the right-wing media.
[00:38:59]  Soup's hot.
[00:39:00]  Why is that?
[00:39:01]  Good question.
[00:39:01]  What's up, Attorney?
[00:39:02]  Like the Israel stuff.
[00:39:04]  It's retarded.
[00:39:05]  I've never been to Israel to do with Israel.
[00:39:07]  Anytime I'm like, people like, we rained today.
[00:39:10]  Israel did it.
[00:39:10]  I'm like, well, no, it's like.
[00:39:13]  You know, the reason I ask you is because you've got more experience in the independent media space, particularly when it comes to government conspiracy, psychological operations, and all that.
[00:39:23]  And, you know, you've been here longer than anybody else.
[00:39:26]  And then all of a sudden, over the past six months, there's been this dramatic shift online where now everyone's just talking about Israel doing everything all the time.
[00:39:34]  Like, all the conspiracy stuff that you've talked about when it comes to liberal economic order, you know, Project for a New American Century, all that is just gone now.
[00:39:41]  No one cares.
[00:39:41]  None of that exists.
[00:39:42]  It's just Israel did it.
[00:39:45]  It's because Qatar doesn't lie about it.
[00:39:49]  They spent like $20 million a year on this.
[00:39:51]  And so it doesn't mean that stuff about Israel isn't true.
[00:39:54]  They have changed the whole subject into that instead of China and the EU trying to censor Americans.
[00:40:01]  So I'm like, hey, the EU census Elon Musk with huge fines or Brazil, shut up Israel.
[00:40:08]  So it's kind of like a public woke up like a baby duck, kind of in principle, first thing it sees.
[00:40:14]  So the public woke up, and so the Muslim Brotherhood, which Qatar funds, said, oh, the first thing you see is Israel.
[00:40:22]  It's so funny to hear Tim desperately trying to take this idiot sitting in front of him seriously.
[00:40:27]  Alex is a clown.
[00:40:28]  He sounds like he's dying and he's clearly drunk.
[00:40:31]  Why the fuck would anyone think he has a good answer to the question, what's up with this Israel stuff?
[00:40:37]  What a ridiculous concept.
[00:40:38]  But since Tim asked, I'll go ahead and answer it for him.
[00:40:41]  Okay.
[00:40:41]  It's Trump's fault.
[00:40:42]  And to some extent, Alex's and his own.
[00:40:45]  Yep.
[00:40:45]  The right-wing media audience has always been comprised mostly of two sides.
[00:40:50]  One is right-wing politically, and the other is just racists and anti-Semites.
[00:40:54]  These groups don't like each other and tend not to get along.
[00:40:58]  So in 2016, it was hard to come up with a candidate who could build up the kind of coalition that could compete with a decent Democratic candidate.
[00:41:06]  Bush had really ruined a lot of that cohesiveness.
[00:41:10]  The media surrogates that promoted Trump made sure to promise both sides of the audience that Trump would be the exact guy they've been waiting for.
[00:41:17]  To the right-wing folks, he looked like a guy who would lower taxes and slash all public assistance programs.
[00:41:23]  To the racists, he looked like the guy who would guarantee a white majority in the country.
[00:41:27]  Trump looked like the compromise candidate for people who couldn't come to a compromise.
[00:41:32]  And because he had a penchant for acting dictatorially, both of these sides didn't really see any reason that he couldn't fulfill their agendas.
[00:41:40]  But as it turns out, Trump sucks.
[00:41:42]  He can't get shit done.
[00:41:43]  And he's doing the same or worse things that other politicians have done in the past.
[00:41:48]  He's covering up the Epstein stuff so transparently that he had to run his top ally out of Congress because she wouldn't shut up about it.
[00:41:56]  He's changed two regimes in the past few months with the rippling consequences of those actions still to be seen.
[00:42:02]  We have no fucking idea what's going to come from that.
[00:42:05]  Nope.
[00:42:05]  They promised that Trump was going to be different, that he was going to get things done.
[00:42:09]  And they wasted the whole, it was the deep state narrative in the first administration.
[00:42:15]  Now there's no one left to blame, and everyone is coming to realize that Trump sucks.
[00:42:20]  Much like they did with the deep state in the first term, the Trump-leaning media folks are desperate to come up with a new story to tell, one that doesn't end up revealing they sold their audience years of lies about an asshole.
[00:42:30]  And the current one is that it's all Israel.
[00:42:33]  Israel obviously deserves criticism, and I'm not saying that their government isn't involved in Trump's decisions, but the reason that the media landscape that Alex and Tim operate in is so full of Israel stuff is because it's become clear that Trump sucks.
[00:42:47]  And blaming everything on Israel is the new way for the dipshits in that media to continue profiting and avoid self-reflection and realizing, oh, we were had.
[00:42:55]  This is our fault.
[00:42:56]  We fucked over our own audiences.
[00:42:59]  Whoops.
[00:42:59]  Whoops a doodle.
[00:43:00]  Yeah, that's why, Tim.
[00:43:02]  Yeah.
[00:43:03]  Tim.
[00:43:04]  Yeah, you know, I wonder if people just like different flavors of Nazi.
[00:43:10]  You know, like, I want to get rid of all the Muslims.
[00:43:12]  Aha ha.
[00:43:13]  I want to get rid of all the Jews.
[00:43:15]  You guys are the same guy.
[00:43:16]  Right.
[00:43:17]  You know, you're the same guy, right?
[00:43:18]  Right.
[00:43:18]  Like, I think that this is something that is so, you know, we've talked about it before.
[00:43:26]  The fundamental argument that Nick and Alex have, Nick Fuentez and Alex have, is whether or not Jewish people can be white.
[00:43:34]  Right.
[00:43:35]  And that is different schools of their knowledge.
[00:43:38]  Not likely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:43:39]  That's different flavors.
[00:43:40]  Alex believes they can be white if they convert to Christianity.
[00:43:44]  Yeah. Jesus Christ.
[00:43:45]  That's basically.
[00:43:46]  I hate pretend.
[00:43:50]  Yeah.
[00:43:52]  Here's what I think.
[00:43:53]  All right.
[00:43:54]  I just think that all those people who lost their jobs a while back should just get those back, right?
[00:44:00]  Which ones?
[00:44:01]  You know, like the university professors who were like, hey, maybe Israel shouldn't be doing this.
[00:44:06]  And they were like, yeah, you can't have a job anymore.
[00:44:08]  Just give them their job back.
[00:44:10]  After Israel did the thing, just give them their job back.
[00:44:12]  Fine.
[00:44:13]  You know, like, we just call that one even.
[00:44:15]  Well, let's take it on a case-by-case basis because I don't know who all of these professors were, but I'm sure some of them were wrongly termed.
[00:44:23]  I get that.
[00:44:24]  I get that.
[00:44:25]  Anyway, the topic of a Jewish Messiah comes up, and man, when you...
[00:44:30]  How are we going to do?
[00:44:30]  When you have a subject like this, who you want in the room is Tim motherfucking pool, Ian, the guy who's weird, Luke R, and a very drunk Alexander.
[00:44:42]  Why not just have fun with a drunk guy?
[00:44:45]  Why are we pretending?
[00:44:46]  Because I think this is how they have fun.
[00:44:48]  Oh, my God.
[00:44:48]  Let's jump to the story.
[00:44:50]  We got this video that's going viral from Mario Noffel.
[00:44:53]  He says, Netanyahu, quote, we will make it to the return of the Messiah, but this will not happen next Thursday.
[00:44:59]  And so this video has been making the rounds, of course, and it's got 400,000 views.
[00:45:03]  And there was an article written a few days ago.
[00:45:06]  Israel is gripped by messianic fervor for a biblical war.
[00:45:10]  Now, there's another video that's massively going viral where everyone's saying that he said return of the Messiah as if to imply he believes in Jesus Christ.
[00:45:19]  No, he's Jewish Messiah.
[00:45:21]  No, no, it says return.
[00:45:23]  The Jews believe the Messiah has not come.
[00:45:25]  So if Netanyahu says the return of the Messiah, that means he thinks the Messiah has already been here.
[00:45:30]  Did you say that?
[00:45:31]  So here's what I've found.
[00:45:33]  In the transcript, when you ask for a translation through Grok or whatever, it says in Hebrew, in what he is speaking, it can be paraphrased either way, as in the era of the Messiah or the return of the.
[00:45:48]  Well, David was the Messiah, so he returns.
[00:45:51]  And the Jewish law.
[00:45:52]  They do believe that David was a Messiah?
[00:45:54]  He was the art.
[00:45:55]  He was the art.
[00:45:55]  Yeah, he was the precursor.
[00:45:57]  I thought they haven't had their Messiah yet.
[00:45:59]  No, but it's all David was a Messiah.
[00:46:02]  He returns.
[00:46:03]  Well, either way.
[00:46:04]  Either way.
[00:46:05]  No!
[00:46:06]  So the research that Tim did on this story is to ask Grok, and he seems unsure what language they're even translating.
[00:46:12]  I have no confidence in these dudes.
[00:46:14]  Nope.
[00:46:15]  This really shouldn't be this unsure of a thing, like an issue when they shouldn't have this level of uncertainty.
[00:46:22]  They're talking about issues related to the Messiah, and Alex, like, pretends to talk to God, and Tim is treating this like a top story that he should have done a little bit of legwork on.
[00:46:33]  This is especially embarrassing for Alex, who's confidently saying that the Jewish Messiah is David.
[00:46:38]  That is not true.
[00:46:39]  But many followers of Judaism believe that the coming Messiah will be from the Davidic line.
[00:46:44]  So a descendant of David.
[00:46:46]  I guess we do know that Alex believes that you're magically the same as your ancestors.
[00:46:52]  So we could give him this one on a crazy person technicality.
[00:46:55]  Sure.
[00:46:56]  Like, yeah, all descendants of David are David.
[00:46:58]  If you accept that his words have no meaning, but sometimes they might rhyme with each other, then yes.
[00:47:04]  Yeah.
[00:47:05]  I will say that he might be consistent here.
[00:47:07]  I was just listening to this, and I'm like, guys, why are you even...
[00:47:10]  What is happening?
[00:47:11]  Why...
[00:47:12]  Why are you even trying to approach this subject?
[00:47:15]  You're stupid.
[00:47:16]  You didn't look into it.
[00:47:18]  And your guest is drunk.
[00:47:20]  Yeah.
[00:47:20]  What are you doing?
[00:47:21]  Talk about football.
[00:47:23]  Or anything you know something about.
[00:47:25]  Like, this seems insane to me.
[00:47:28]  I've had multiple classes where the professor was drunk trying to teach the class, and I just disregarded it.
[00:47:35]  I wasn't like, well, maybe I'll get some new information now.
[00:47:38]  Conversely, I've had some teachers that were drunk and did better.
[00:47:41]  That's possible.
[00:47:42]  It unlocks the next level.
[00:47:43]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:47:44]  Finally, you're kind of opening up socially, and we can kind of connect to you.
[00:47:48]  You need some expertise for it to be under that booze.

=== Monarchist Drunk Professor (15:51) ===

[00:47:52]  Yeah.
[00:47:53]  Anyway, Luke, and last name, redacted, he brings up Albert Pike.
[00:48:00]  Okay.
[00:48:01]  And like, apparently, he knew all about these world wars that were going to be coming.
[00:48:07]  And unfortunately, Tim does a little Googling.
[00:48:11]  Yeah, wars are meant to be continued.
[00:48:12]  And there's a lot of soldiers that are literally talking about this being a holy war for them so they could bring in the third temple.
[00:48:18]  Fun.
[00:48:18]  Albert Pike talked about a lot of this stuff 1871.
[00:48:21]  He wrote a letter about World War III, and it's absolutely crazy.
[00:48:24]  1871, he wrote about World War III.
[00:48:26]  Yes.
[00:48:27]  So he knew there were no doubt.
[00:48:28]  Did he tell anybody about it?
[00:48:29]  No, he talked about World War I.
[00:48:31]  He talked about World War II.
[00:48:32]  And then he talked about World War III.
[00:48:33]  And he talked about the Jews fighting the Muslims in this world that will bring in the demon, will bring in the kind of demonic order.
[00:48:44]  So this is, I mean, I've been talking about this for about 12 years.
[00:48:48]  I did a video with David Icke about this.
[00:48:50]  I'm sorry, real quick, just don't forget what you're going to say.
[00:48:52]  Albert Pike's statue was torn down by anti-racism protesters in the George Floyd riots.
[00:48:56]  Of course.
[00:48:57]  Not a surprise there at all.
[00:49:00]  Oh, well, yeah.
[00:49:01]  It presented as some kind of like, oh, he was a visionary and the woke mob had to take down it.
[00:49:11]  Well, he was the head of the KKK.
[00:49:13]  He's the head of the KKK.
[00:49:15]  I mean, even drunk Alex knows this.
[00:49:18]  God damn.
[00:49:19]  Just unreal.
[00:49:21]  This feels crazy.
[00:49:23]  It is.
[00:49:24]  It genuinely feels like an assault on reality.
[00:49:27]  Yeah.
[00:49:27]  And like I said, by the end of this, you'll feel even worse.
[00:49:30]  I believe it.
[00:49:31]  There's so much roller coaster, windy road to go.
[00:49:35]  I'm struggling to process that this is something they continued doing.
[00:49:39]  Yeah.
[00:49:40]  It seems like something.
[00:49:42]  Like, I'm puzzled by why people would listen to our show.
[00:49:46]  Yeah.
[00:49:46]  I don't really fully understand that.
[00:49:49]  But I really don't understand why someone's going to be able to do it.
[00:49:51]  I really don't understand this.
[00:49:53]  I think that we have a little bit more.
[00:49:56]  I think it's a little more interesting.
[00:49:58]  I hope.
[00:49:59]  At the very least, we've got chops.
[00:50:01]  Something.
[00:50:01]  Yeah, right?
[00:50:03]  So Alex is, you know, obviously Trump is bad.
[00:50:08]  He's getting butt done by the neocons in their 12-foot dicks.
[00:50:14]  Joe Ragman's vagina.
[00:50:17]  He's covering up Epstein.
[00:50:18]  He's going to war with Iran, all this stuff.
[00:50:20]  Broken the Constitution.
[00:50:21]  But also, we should be so grateful for him.
[00:50:24]  That's nice.
[00:50:24]  Trump isn't perfect.
[00:50:25]  And I bitch about him all day.
[00:50:27]  But we should bitch about Democrats way more because we have to remember where we were.
[00:50:32]  What are they going to do to get back in power?
[00:50:33]  Well, Luke made a really good point about what's going on.
[00:50:36]  Do you want to make that point about the trap?
[00:50:37]  Yeah, no, I believe the little bit of free speech that we have is essentially the cheese on the rat trap that all of us are now engaging in, and it's going to close behind us.
[00:50:45]  Because, of course, a lot of people are using it to its fullest potential.
[00:50:48]  But I see it as a trap.
[00:50:49]  That's what it feels like to me.
[00:50:50]  That's what my instincts feel like because I saw how the internet was all the way in 2006.
[00:50:54]  I saw the trap.
[00:50:55]  I talked about the trap all the way in 2008.
[00:50:57]  I said, we're going to lose our free speech.
[00:50:59]  We lost our free speech.
[00:51:00]  That's what it is.
[00:51:01]  We are taking Trump for granted with those problems.
[00:51:04]  What is going to happen when the Democrats get back in?
[00:51:08]  We should be talking about, oh, we're free now.
[00:51:10]  Oh, I'm so bad on YouTube.
[00:51:12]  But the point is, imagine when they get back and take a piss at me back.
[00:51:15]  I got a piss at me back.
[00:51:20]  Just out of nowhere.
[00:51:21]  Boom.
[00:51:22]  Where'd he go?
[00:51:23]  He was our star guest.
[00:51:25]  Yeah.
[00:51:25]  Yeah.
[00:51:25]  Well, it turns out drunk people have to pee a lot.
[00:51:27]  Yes.
[00:51:28]  Yeah.
[00:51:29]  So, yeah, apparently free speech is a trap.
[00:51:32]  We should be grateful for Trump, and Alex has got to pee.
[00:51:35]  I love that.
[00:51:36]  I love the least specific series of sounds that I've heard somebody make before.
[00:51:41]  I remember the internet in 2006.
[00:51:44]  I think free speech is a trap.
[00:51:46]  Now here we are.
[00:51:48]  I genuinely don't know what he's talking about.
[00:51:51]  I think that he's ironically talking about the same stuff we're hearing Alex talk about in 2006.
[00:51:57]  Right.
[00:51:57]  When we go back, like the idea that MySpace is a trap.
[00:52:01]  Yeah.
[00:52:01]  You know, like, you go on there and you can become reliant on it to interact with people.
[00:52:07]  Sure.
[00:52:08]  But you do so at the pleasure of Rupert Murdoch.
[00:52:12]  Naturally.
[00:52:13]  That's the trap that closes behind you.
[00:52:15]  Like his censorship.
[00:52:17]  Right.
[00:52:17]  You have to follow those rules or else you lose your MySpace page.
[00:52:20]  Right.
[00:52:21]  I think that's what he's talking about.
[00:52:22]  Okay.
[00:52:23]  So then the trap is a little bit of free speech.
[00:52:28]  So who's snapping the trap on you?
[00:52:32]  The people who own those social media networks and stuff, I think.
[00:52:36]  Okay.
[00:52:37]  All right.
[00:52:38]  I'm doing some work for him.
[00:52:39]  Sure.
[00:52:39]  No, I mean, if he owes you money.
[00:52:43]  What's your hourly rate?
[00:52:44]  Because he owes you.
[00:52:45]  No, he doesn't owe me anything.
[00:52:47]  He owes Alex in 2006 something.
[00:52:49]  Sure.
[00:52:49]  They were already doing this, like this kind of like, hey, don't trust social media.
[00:52:54]  Well, you did.
[00:52:56]  Yeah.
[00:52:56]  You did.
[00:52:57]  That's why you.
[00:52:57]  You didn't listen to your own advice, and now you're an idiot.
[00:53:00]  That is kind of the problem.
[00:53:01]  Yes.
[00:53:02]  Yeah.
[00:53:02]  So Alex goes to P and they talk about the UK.
[00:53:07]  God, I wish it had, I wish that the mic was on.
[00:53:10]  Oh, that'd be good.
[00:53:11]  That would be so great.
[00:53:12]  That would just be great.
[00:53:13]  It would be great.
[00:53:14]  Unfortunately, no, I actually think fortunately, because whatever's going on in there can't sound good.
[00:53:19]  Can't sound good.
[00:53:20]  No.
[00:53:20]  No.
[00:53:21]  That'd be very funny.
[00:53:22]  So he comes back fucking wasted.
[00:53:25]  Yeah.
[00:53:26]  They're talking about the UK stuff in the House of Lords.
[00:53:29]  Yeah.
[00:53:29]  And he's bad.
[00:53:31]  I think this is a good thing.
[00:53:34]  This is something that they started in 1999, the reform process of getting the hereditary peers out of office.
[00:53:39]  They left 92 people in.
[00:53:40]  And I think this is because of people like Tommy Robinson.
[00:53:44]  They're moving away from why do you need hereditary monarchy?
[00:53:47]  Why do you think it's good?
[00:53:49]  Because I don't think you're birthed, you should be born into power like that.
[00:53:52]  I don't think you should have a title passed down to your son.
[00:53:55]  It should be democratic.
[00:53:57]  Why not?
[00:53:57]  Because you've got what you want the best from your society, not the king's kid necessarily.
[00:54:03]  But the point is, Joe Rogan's vagina is this giant mothership that protects the earth.
[00:54:09]  The shield against all of Satanism is Joe Rogan's vagina.
[00:54:12]  Hey, Alex, do you think that it's a good thing that UK is getting rid of hereditary parliament?
[00:54:17]  The House of Lords.
[00:54:18]  House of Lords.
[00:54:19]  The fact is, they're getting rid of it to turn it over to the globalists.
[00:54:22]  Yep.
[00:54:22]  And Islam.
[00:54:24]  And the mayor of London, all of it.
[00:54:26]  It's totally disgusting.
[00:54:27]  You see this?
[00:54:27]  Oh, boy.
[00:54:28]  So you could, one of the things I think is interesting, it's illustrated in that clip, is like the two people who are talking are idiots.
[00:54:36]  Yeah.
[00:54:37]  But at least they're having a conversation.
[00:54:39]  They're discussing why it would or would not be better to have hereditary rule.
[00:54:44]  Sure.
[00:54:45]  One of them is taking the side of it is better.
[00:54:48]  One is taking the side of not.
[00:54:50]  Right.
[00:54:50]  And they're at least discussing the pros and cons of this in a way that if you're listening, hey, maybe it might spark some thoughts in your head.
[00:54:58]  Maybe.
[00:54:58]  Alex comes in and he ruins it.
[00:55:00]  Yes, he does.
[00:55:01]  Vaginas again.
[00:55:02]  Yeah.
[00:55:02]  Alex makes it so those conversations, even if they're dumb, aren't possible.
[00:55:07]  Yeah.
[00:55:08]  Yeah.
[00:55:10]  He is the void where conversation gets sucked into.
[00:55:15]  I mean, it's like, you know, you know, sometimes whenever you're doing a three-man game, you know, not all of you know exactly when the time to speak is.
[00:55:25]  So sometimes you'll leave a little space for the third man or, you know, whoever's got some time.
[00:55:30]  But if they don't know what they're doing or if they're not ready for it, you might get some dead air, right?
[00:55:35]  That would be better than what Alex does.
[00:55:37]  Yes.
[00:55:38]  Yes, it would.
[00:55:40]  You know how they say that, like, what is it?
[00:55:44]  White is the combination of all colors.
[00:55:46]  Black is the absence of whatever.
[00:55:48]  Whichever you choose.
[00:55:49]  Alex is the absence of thought.
[00:55:51]  Yeah.
[00:55:51]  Like, there is just not thought here.
[00:55:53]  Yeah.
[00:55:54]  And listening to him stops you from thinking.
[00:55:57]  Yeah.
[00:55:58]  And that's a high compliment for me to be giving the other co-hosts on Tim Poole's show.
[00:56:04]  Right?
[00:56:05]  Which sucks because this does seem like a moment for Alex to go full Americana and be like, get the fuck out of my country, Tim Poole.
[00:56:14]  You want hereditary bullshit?
[00:56:15]  Fuck off.
[00:56:16]  Go work for King George, you piece of shit.
[00:56:19]  Well, it's interesting because this is where Tim starts to express a desire.
[00:56:24]  That he's a fucking loyalist.
[00:56:25]  He's a monarchist.
[00:56:26]  That he's a fucking monarchist.
[00:56:28]  Go join the red coats, shitbird.
[00:56:31]  I think the argument against hereditary rule is propaganda and largely a myth.
[00:56:37]  I think that all leaders have a possibility of going sour or being bad.
[00:56:43]  Well, the point is, though, they're giving up the hereditary rule to the Islamics and the globalists.
[00:56:48]  That is the point.
[00:56:49]  So if they gave it back to the British people, we're all pro-Britain, it'd be fine.
[00:56:52]  It's not.
[00:56:53]  It's about globalist capitulation.
[00:56:55]  Indeed.
[00:56:56]  So getting rid of the House of Lords is not about having democracy, Ian.
[00:57:00]  It's about saying we need to rip the British people from control of this government.
[00:57:06]  They're not getting rid of the House of Lords.
[00:57:08]  What are you talking about?
[00:57:09]  This is silly.
[00:57:10]  This is nonsense.
[00:57:12]  But also, like, it's so clear what you're talking about.
[00:57:17]  Yeah.
[00:57:17]  Which is you prefer monarchy that's white to a multicultural society where there's power that's shared among peers.
[00:57:31]  Okay, I'm going to go ahead and say this.
[00:57:33]  I don't think these people understand necessarily that monarchs are not from necessarily the place that they're ruling.
[00:57:43]  Hmm.
[00:57:44]  Well, but do they, they, but.
[00:57:47]  So, like, if you're saying I'm getting rid of the House of Lords, yeah, that's bringing it back to the people.
[00:57:54]  But also, like, yeah, if you want monarchy, then get ready for the possibility of becoming a serf.
[00:58:01]  You know, like...
[00:58:02]  It'd be absurd.
[00:58:04]  No, to then, then shit, then throw away the Constitution.
[00:58:07]  There's no way to have a constitutional republic and a monarchy at the same time.
[00:58:11]  That's not how it works.
[00:58:12]  No, and I think that that is what is underneath this conversation, is that Tim, and I think, to his credit, Ian may be not fully on board with this.
[00:58:21]  Yeah.
[00:58:22]  But Tim and Alex would prefer an ethnic dictatorship and monarchy to a constitutional republic that exists in a way where everyone has rights.
[00:58:34]  Yes.
[00:58:35]  Absolutely.
[00:58:35]  That is what is underneath their conversation.
[00:58:38]  Right.
[00:58:39]  And yeah, they are out of line.
[00:58:44]  I would say that that's fine if you believe that and you've come to that conclusion.
[00:58:49]  I guess that's fine.
[00:58:51]  That's for your view to come to, but you can't then also be an American.
[00:58:55]  No.
[00:58:56]  That's the rule of the country.
[00:58:58]  Didn't you read the Declaration of Independence?
[00:59:01]  And just say it.
[00:59:03]  Just be honest about what it is you want.
[00:59:05]  I want King George to come back to life and reconquer the United States of America so we can finally get rid of those Native Americans and all be white forever.
[00:59:14]  Great.
[00:59:15]  Yeah.
[00:59:15]  That's what you believe.
[00:59:16]  I'm not arguing that.
[00:59:17]  There you go.
[00:59:18]  We'll just kick your ass.
[00:59:19]  Yeah, that's how we started the fight in the first place.
[00:59:23]  Yeah.
[00:59:23]  So Tim seems to be in favor of monarchies.
[00:59:26]  There's a history of when the king would find a wife and it wasn't inbreeding and had a son.
[00:59:32]  The son was educated, trained, would be a military leader, and they said, you have to be someone who can lead the people and serve.
[00:59:38]  It wasn't like, congratulations, you're rich from now on and can do whatever you want.
[00:59:42]  Yes, it was.
[00:59:44]  Yes, it was.
[00:59:46]  The British people looked at her as someone who dedicated her life to service to them.
[00:59:50]  And many of them, when you actually ask them, they view it as, I get to live my life free from the trials and tribulations of foreign war and conflict.
[01:00:00]  Their republic with Islamic rule.
[01:00:03]  Is that proven?
[01:00:04]  Well, if you take a look at it, literally, the Muslims are taking over.
[01:00:07]  If you take a look at what's going on, I just want to see the evidence of that because that's an interesting question.
[01:00:12]  King Charles has literally endorsed Islam.
[01:00:16]  What is this?
[01:00:17]  Hey, man, nobles oblige.
[01:00:19]  You know, like the nobles, they're our heroes.
[01:00:24]  Really?
[01:00:24]  They're working for us at all times.
[01:00:28]  Tim.
[01:00:30]  Come on.
[01:00:30]  I feel like I'm in a fucking community play of Gildenstern and fucking are dead.
[01:00:37]  Like, these are the three dumbest people I've ever heard speak to each other.
[01:00:40]  No, but isn't it fascinating how Ian will at least be like, hold on a second.
[01:00:45]  Yeah, that is crazy.
[01:00:46]  He gives up fast.
[01:00:47]  Yeah.
[01:00:47]  He does at least be like, Yeah, I'm not sure.
[01:00:50]  What are you thinking?
[01:00:50]  Yeah.
[01:00:51]  Has that been proven?
[01:00:52]  Absolutely.
[01:00:52]  What are you talking about?
[01:00:54]  What are you doing?
[01:00:54]  What is happening here?
[01:00:56]  I think Ian has controlled opposition in the sense that he's there to be.
[01:01:02]  Yeah, but also just give up immediately.
[01:01:05]  So Tim's point doesn't seem threatened.
[01:01:07]  Jesus Christ.
[01:01:08]  It's embarrassing all around.
[01:01:12]  See, here's the thing about monarchists: their kids are raised to be good kings.
[01:01:18]  It's an obligation that they have.
[01:01:19]  It would be insane if you were to go back through any sort of monarchy, literally any one of them.
[01:01:25]  Pick any one of them.
[01:01:26]  You will never see nepotism being a problem.
[01:01:29]  No.
[01:01:30]  Guarantee it.
[01:01:30]  No, usually when they aren't bastard children, I think he might be thinking of Game of Thrones.
[01:01:37]  I think he's absolutely thinking of Game of Thrones.
[01:01:39]  But yeah, when the kid is good and of good stock and born in the way that God intended him to be, that kid understands.
[01:01:50]  Exactly.
[01:01:51]  They exist to serve the people.
[01:01:53]  Right.
[01:01:54]  So you got to push them out of a tower and then they become the three-eyed raven and then they'll be a good ruler.
[01:01:59]  I think that makes perfect sense.
[01:02:00]  If that's your argument, I can't find holes in it.
[01:02:03]  Yeah.
[01:02:04]  So the reason that this needs to happen, we need to go back to kings or something, is because they're getting rid of the House of Lords in order to make Islam in charge of the UK.
[01:02:14]  And Ian has been like, what's the evidence of this?
[01:02:17]  That's a good question.
[01:02:18]  And here's what Tim says.
[01:02:20]  Okay.
[01:02:21]  So let me extrapolate.
[01:02:22]  Let me extrapolate.
[01:02:22]  King Charles has literally endorsed Islam.
[01:02:25]  And outside of, let's not have a direct claim.
[01:02:28]  Let's put it like this.
[01:02:29]  If you are Muslim in the UK and you say horrifying things, you don't get punished for it.
[01:02:35]  If you are a British and you post online, pray quietly from an abortion clinic, three years in prison.
[01:02:40]  Yep.
[01:02:40]  There was a woman who was standing outside an abortion clinic saying nothing and doing nothing.
[01:02:44]  And police came up and said, What are you doing?
[01:02:46]  He said, nothing.
[01:02:47]  And they said, are you praying?
[01:02:48]  And she goes, in my mind, you're under arrest.
[01:02:50]  So when they allow people, sounds true to me, Muslims, to pray in the street.
[01:02:56]  The Muslims now go around saying no dogs at parks.
[01:02:59]  Now they're passing laws in the UK, no dogs.
[01:03:03]  Yeah.
[01:03:04]  So that's where you get the perception that is Islam is taking over the UK.
[01:03:08]  But I mean, if the king, so is the king sold out?
[01:03:11]  Because that means that the king can shut this down.
[01:03:13]  The king can actually overrule this parliamentary act.
[01:03:16]  The king is legendary.
[01:03:18]  It's beyond Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:03:20]  Okay, man.
[01:03:21]  So this show is basically like a chain email your grandma would get back in the day.
[01:03:25]  Hearing these supposedly rational humans talking with this severely intoxicated elderly man is just depressing.
[01:03:32]  Hearing this tone is like, you guys, come on.
[01:03:34]  This is crazy.
[01:03:35]  So this is about a woman named Isabel Vaugh Spruce, and she didn't do years in jail for praying outside an abortion clinic.

=== Abortion Protester Buffer Zones (05:36) ===

[01:03:43]  She's a longtime abortion protester, and she uses a strategy of violating the legally required buffer zones outside of these clinics as what she would probably call civil disobedience.
[01:03:53]  She's been arrested for it a couple times, and earlier this year, she was awarded £13,000 for an unlawful arrest that she was the subject of in one of these instances.
[01:04:02]  So rather than what Alex is saying, where she's going to go to jail forever, they actually, the state paid her £13,000.
[01:04:09]  Right.
[01:04:09]  That seems like a very different.
[01:04:11]  So in terms of if the Muslims are taking over, I don't think she would have gotten 13,000 pounds.
[01:04:16]  No, they conveniently leave that part out of this story.
[01:04:18]  It seems very convenient that they left it out.
[01:04:20]  Civil disobedience is an important protest tactic.
[01:04:23]  So if she believes that there shouldn't be buffer zones around abortion clinics, then her silent prayer within those zones is a legitimate way for her to express that.
[01:04:32]  She knows she's breaking an existing law, and she knows what the consequences for that will be, which she's accepted in advance.
[01:04:39]  The punishment is part of the protest and why she's doing this thing to begin with.
[01:04:43]  That's the idea.
[01:04:44]  But when people like Alex and Tim start discussing her actions, they rob it of all meaning because they have to rob it of the intent.
[01:04:52]  She went to a buffer zone that she knew she wasn't allowed to hang out in, but in order to use her story as evidence of the horrible attack on Christianity and proof that the Muslims have taken over the UK, she needs to be a completely blameless person who is just there minding her own business.
[01:05:07]  And that's not fair to her.
[01:05:09]  It's not fair to the political statement that she's making.
[01:05:12]  They are disrespectful to literally everybody in this story.
[01:05:16]  Yeah.
[01:05:17]  Yeah, it does concern me how few of those types of people like her recognize that she does not exist to the people that she believes supports her.
[01:05:31]  You know, it is a weird paradox that all of these people feel as though they have the support of people who clearly view them as non-humans.
[01:05:41]  No, they're props.
[01:05:42]  Yeah.
[01:05:42]  They want to use you as a prop.
[01:05:44]  Right?
[01:05:44]  Yeah.
[01:05:44]  Like it would be, it is strange.
[01:05:46]  Like, I don't think Jeff Dunham's puppets are also like, man, we're having a great time.
[01:05:51]  You know, they're not real.
[01:05:52]  Jalapeno on a stick.
[01:05:54]  That's what I'm saying, right?
[01:05:54]  Like, jalapeno on a stick doesn't have its life stolen from it.
[01:05:59]  It's just a puppet.
[01:06:01]  True.
[01:06:01]  You know?
[01:06:01]  So it doesn't have to be concerned with whether or not these people are evil.
[01:06:06]  Nope.
[01:06:07]  But like, I think the kind of double-edged nature of this is that I don't think that even these people like Alex and Tim misusing her activism, I don't think that she would do anything differently.
[01:06:20]  Sure.
[01:06:21]  It's just that she's not in control of the way that it's being misused.
[01:06:25]  It is, it is.
[01:06:26]  There's a disconnect.
[01:06:27]  Yeah, I would imagine that were the awareness there, it would feel different.
[01:06:34]  She would change her behaviors.
[01:06:35]  Maybe.
[01:06:36]  No, I don't think so.
[01:06:37]  But maybe I don't know about that.
[01:06:39]  Maybe she would argue with Tim.
[01:06:41]  I don't know.
[01:06:42]  Maybe she wouldn't.
[01:06:43]  She sucks.
[01:06:44]  I don't know anything about her other than the tiny bit.
[01:06:48]  Anyway, Tim does not believe in America.
[01:06:51]  He thinks that you should have to have been born here and your parents and grandparents be born here in order for you to run for office.
[01:06:58]  So we were talking about hereditary rule going away in the UK.
[01:07:02]  I would just put it like this.
[01:07:03]  There's no guarantee that someone inheriting office just based on who their parents are is going to protect your rights.
[01:07:11]  But I would argue it is substantially more likely that a Virginian from Virginia who's sixth, seventh generation is going to say, we have a constitutional right to keep him bear arms, and someone who's not from the United States is going to say, I don't care.
[01:07:23]  Do you think we should ban non-U.S. citizens from running for Senate or Congress at all?
[01:07:27]  Every statewide, federal elections.
[01:07:29]  Non-citizens, you mean natural born.
[01:07:32]  I believe we are political.
[01:07:34]  We know not to vote for foreigners.
[01:07:36]  I believe that you should have to be born here to run off, period.
[01:07:39]  Okay.
[01:07:40]  Well, you don't agree with a lot of the things that apparently we're supposed to have been founded on.
[01:07:46]  Yeah.
[01:07:47]  Cool, man.
[01:07:48]  I would like my money back from school.
[01:07:51]  From all school that I've ever been to, I would like my money back because what they told me is apparently wildly incorrect.
[01:07:58]  Well, no, I think Tim is wildly incorrect.
[01:08:01]  Sure.
[01:08:01]  But it feels like these are the people who have all the power.
[01:08:05]  I think that some of these ideas are more ascendant right now than they should be.
[01:08:10]  But I don't think that they're representative of the country that I grew up in and the country that we aspire to be.
[01:08:17]  Sure.
[01:08:18]  And that we were taught we were going towards.
[01:08:20]  Sure.
[01:08:21]  There's no reason why this has to be ascendant.
[01:08:24]  There's no reason why this has to take power.
[01:08:26]  Nope.
[01:08:26]  It just sucks that it kind of is now.
[01:08:30]  So, yeah, sixth generation Virginians.
[01:08:32]  Those are the people who should be allowed to run for office.
[01:08:35]  I think you're being a little bit obvious here.
[01:08:38]  You know, I just know what I love most about these people and their ideology is for all the things that we disagree on, we both agree on a meritocracy.
[01:08:47]  And a big tent.
[01:08:49]  Absolutely.
[01:08:50]  If you are good at something, then you should be rewarded and encouraged to do that.
[01:08:54]  None of that DEI stuff.
[01:08:56]  No, no, no, absolutely not.
[01:08:57]  You shouldn't just give somebody something because of the color of their skin or because they're related to somebody or, you know, something along those lines.
[01:09:05]  I remember when people were screaming about DEI.
[01:09:07]  Yeah, I do.
[01:09:08]  So the conversation goes on, and then a horror strikes the proceedings.
[01:09:16]  This is hard to hear.
[01:09:17]  And I mean that literally and metaphorically.

=== Social Media Cogs and Censorship (02:57) ===

[01:09:19]  Luke is right.
[01:09:20]  I think they opened the door and said, everyone come on through, and they're going to try and drop the guillotine on everybody in the next year or so.
[01:09:26]  The Democrats win the midterms.
[01:09:27]  That censorship is going to come back tenfold.
[01:09:30]  Yep.
[01:09:30]  Maybe.
[01:09:30]  Yeah, all these concerns are like, oh, we're weave one.
[01:09:33]  Everything's great.
[01:09:33]  No, we haven't.
[01:09:34]  No.
[01:09:36]  Two years is next tomorrow.
[01:09:38]  Do you see any other future than the AI overlord machine state?
[01:09:44]  If humans learn to recognize authentic human stuff and promote it, we win.
[01:09:50]  You can see what's real, what's not.
[01:09:52]  We have to promote what's real.
[01:09:53]  Well, how old are you now, Alex?
[01:09:56]  52.
[01:09:56]  52?
[01:09:57]  God bless you, Zoe.
[01:09:58]  Fucking 92?
[01:10:00]  He's got weird minds.
[01:10:04]  You good?
[01:10:09]  You good?
[01:10:12]  You alright?
[01:10:14]  I'm tired.
[01:10:16]  Yeah, no, we're winning.
[01:10:18]  Feels like it.
[01:10:20]  What the fuck was that?
[01:10:21]  Yeah, so Alex having a huge coughing fit and then saying, I'm tired, is just amazing timing.
[01:10:26]  He doesn't mean for that to be funny, but it's gold.
[01:10:29]  I think he's dying, and that would be sad.
[01:10:32]  But I'm more interested in the idea that Tim starts that clip off with.
[01:10:35]  That has to do with Luke's theorizing that the free speech stuff that the MAGA folks have been pushing is a trap.
[01:10:41]  They complain that they're being censored everywhere on YouTube and Facebook and Twitter, so they end up going to Rumble and Elon buys Twitter to turn it into a safe space for racists.
[01:10:50]  But that's the trap.
[01:10:52]  Once they get there, they shut the back door and you're screwed.
[01:10:55]  Right.
[01:10:55]  The reason that's funny is because, as we talked about earlier, it's exactly what Alex was saying about MySpace in 2006.
[01:11:02]  It's funny because they're kind of right, but not because any censorship conspiracy theory.
[01:11:07]  Rather, it's because how the business, it's the business model.
[01:11:10]  Social media relies on large user bases in order to make profit off advertising and selling your data.
[01:11:16]  So if there's a bunch of people on one platform, you need to give them a reason to migrate to your platform.
[01:11:22]  You can't say what you want over there is a really compelling argument for people who want to say offensive shit.
[01:11:27]  So it's very useful to get more users onto your site away from another site.
[01:11:32]  But once your platform grows enough, you start to realize the importance of marketing and advertising in terms of your profits.
[01:11:38]  And you can, you can only get a certain level of advertiser on board if your site is full of slurs and racist cartoons.
[01:11:44]  There is that.
[01:11:45]  If you want actual, stable, reliable companies to advertise with you, you will need to have some form of moderation or censorship, which is the springing of the trap that Luke is talking about.
[01:11:55]  These guys are basically just toothless rebels where they want all the benefits of social media, but they can't stand the awareness that by being in their space, they're cogs.
[01:12:06]  They kind of understand that if they weren't able to post clickbait shit to hijack people's attention on social media, they'd have no careers.
[01:12:13]  So they have to be cogs, but they're not like all the other dumb cogs.

=== Toothless Rebels on Air (15:39) ===

[01:12:17]  Right.
[01:12:17]  All you other dumb cogs who are part of the machine using social media and like being the people whose attention we hijack.
[01:12:24]  You people are trapped.
[01:12:26]  Yep.
[01:12:26]  I'm the one who's going into this with my eyes open.
[01:12:28]  I'm making a deal with the devil.
[01:12:30]  Yeah.
[01:12:30]  Say what you want about that, but you know what that does?
[01:12:33]  It makes me equal with the devil.
[01:12:35]  I'm sure it does.
[01:12:36]  These idiots, they're just being taken advantage of by the devil.
[01:12:40]  They're being conned by the devil.
[01:12:42]  That's pathetic.
[01:12:43]  It's funny.
[01:12:43]  It's just pathetic.
[01:12:44]  It's fun how the devil lets you think that, huh?
[01:12:46]  It is weird how the devil only chooses you to do that, but everybody else, he does the thing.
[01:12:50]  It's almost like I bet they think something similar.
[01:12:53]  So that coughing fit was gross.
[01:12:55]  That probably sounded like death.
[01:12:57]  Yeah.
[01:12:58]  It sounded like a person not just coughing, but also not being able to breathe.
[01:13:03]  Nope.
[01:13:03]  And you can tell that a fear enters the room.
[01:13:07]  It entered me.
[01:13:08]  These guys are pretty scared.
[01:13:10]  Okay.
[01:13:11]  So the reason I ask you is because I think the younger generation is going to be put in the Matrix.
[01:13:15]  They're going to be given the Neuralink.
[01:13:16]  They're going to be plugged in and they're going to choose to play video games all day where they can be wizards fighting dragons.
[01:13:22]  Me and Dean were actually talking about this morning on Holloway's podcast.
[01:13:30]  Okay?
[01:13:32]  Okay.
[01:13:33]  I'm going to leave it in my head.
[01:13:34]  And it's super important that people not decide to not be active in the real world.
[01:13:42]  Yeah.
[01:13:44]  Allergy attack.
[01:13:46]  Yeah.
[01:13:46]  Come on, man.
[01:13:47]  There's something.
[01:13:48]  It's really messed up.
[01:13:49]  And I think that Alex does say, he mumbles there like, I'm going to leave in a minute.
[01:13:55]  Yeah.
[01:13:55]  And there's a feeling that everyone has that's like, what the fuck is going on here?
[01:13:59]  What the fuck is going on?
[01:14:00]  Is he going to die in front of us?
[01:14:02]  It'd be interesting.
[01:14:03]  Is he going to leave?
[01:14:04]  He's supposed to be here for the whole show.
[01:14:05]  It's supposed to be three hours long.
[01:14:07]  We're like an hour in.
[01:14:08]  Now, that's a viral moment.
[01:14:10]  If Alex dies on your show live, that's going to go viral.
[01:14:13]  Holy shit.
[01:14:14]  It's gross, too.
[01:14:15]  It's audibly gross.
[01:14:17]  Oh, it's disgusting.
[01:14:18]  It's tough to look at.
[01:14:20]  I'm shocked that you had to look at it.
[01:14:23]  I'm like, I looked away.
[01:14:25]  Gross.
[01:14:25]  But, you know, there's some inspirational messages that this other host is trying to make about kids can't choose to not be in the real world.
[01:14:35]  You have to be in the real world.
[01:14:37]  Okay.
[01:14:38]  Or else we'll not be in the real world.
[01:14:41]  And then Alex interrupts him.
[01:14:42]  Right.
[01:14:42]  Like, you have to make the decision to go out and do things that are hard.
[01:14:46]  You have to make the decision to go out and do things that challenge you because that's how you grow.
[01:14:50]  And that's how you make your life better.
[01:14:53]  If you just say, oh, you know, I'm going to sit around and play video games and not actually be active in life.
[01:14:58]  You're going to end up with a whole generation of just people that are in the pod.
[01:15:02]  And it's going to be the end of it.
[01:15:07]  I'm sorry?
[01:15:08]  Humanity's powerful.
[01:15:08]  We're going to win.
[01:15:10]  But yeah, the censorship's been incredible.
[01:15:12]  It's been totally insane.
[01:15:13]  And we're going to win the end.
[01:15:15]  So this doesn't matter.
[01:15:17]  I hope so.
[01:15:19]  I've grown quite fond of living.
[01:15:20]  Good for you.
[01:15:21]  I think that guy, like, for as much as this show is dumb and banal and boring, I think that listening to that guy talk about you need to be in the real world and have some challenges and rise to the occasion or else you're living in a pod in a false reality.
[01:15:36]  I've listened to that.
[01:15:37]  That guy had something that was at least a thought.
[01:15:41]  And then Alex comes in with a yeah.
[01:15:46]  Yeah, it feels it feels like this is abuse.
[01:15:51]  I don't know.
[01:15:52]  I know someone is being abused.
[01:15:54]  I know multiple people are being abused, but I am not sure who or what is at fault.
[01:16:00]  I just know that it hurts me personally.
[01:16:01]  I think that Tim Poole entered this interview on good faith, that he just thought he was going to have Alex Jones on.
[01:16:07]  Okay.
[01:16:07]  Then Alex showed up wasted and he just decided to roll with it.
[01:16:11]  And at this point, it's ethical to be interviewing him.
[01:16:17]  Absolutely.
[01:16:17]  We talked about this on the episode where Alex was like blackout, calling Paul Joseph Watson like the goblin king and all that stuff.
[01:16:26]  And at that point in our tenure of doing this show, I think I was very sensitive to Alex's, like, hey, you've got to protect him from being on air like this.
[01:16:35]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:16:36]  This isn't okay.
[01:16:37]  This is another human being.
[01:16:38]  Now I don't care.
[01:16:39]  No, you got to protect yourself from Alex being on air like this.
[01:16:42]  This is your show.
[01:16:44]  I supremely don't care that Alex is incapacitated on this.
[01:16:48]  This is that guy.
[01:16:49]  Yeah.
[01:16:49]  But if I'm running the show, I'm going, well, fuck that guy.
[01:16:52]  I don't want him on my show.
[01:16:53]  It kind of makes you look bad that this is a guest that would be appealing to you.
[01:16:57]  Yeah.
[01:16:57]  It makes you look bad that you've ever taken him seriously in the past.
[01:17:01]  Yes.
[01:17:01]  So it peels back layers of the onion that you really don't want.
[01:17:05]  It's a bad booking.
[01:17:06]  Yeah.
[01:17:07]  And you think that maybe it could go all right at the beginning.
[01:17:11]  I mean, it's not the first time he showed up somewhere drunk.
[01:17:14]  You're not wrong.
[01:17:15]  It's just bad.
[01:17:17]  This one's bad.
[01:17:17]  Yeah.
[01:17:18]  I mean, once you hear that coughing fit, though, there's no hard liquor that's going to make your esophagus more comfortable.
[01:17:26]  That's not how esophaguses work.
[01:17:28]  Esophagai.
[01:17:29]  Esophagai.
[01:17:30]  I'm not a soft guy.
[01:17:33]  So, Alex, I mean, there's something physical going on.
[01:17:38]  Yeah.
[01:17:38]  But it's also kind of mental.
[01:17:40]  Like, Ian, I think, is very dumb.
[01:17:42]  Yeah.
[01:17:43]  And Alex can't really even keep up with his train of thought.
[01:17:46]  It makes me think that, like, okay, there's people that want to evolve humans into a machine to upload their consciousness and a machine, become the Uber man in a machine.
[01:17:54]  That at some point, that's like a microcosm of the spirits that have put their consciousness into humans to evolve to the next phase of spirit.
[01:18:04]  Copy what's already there.
[01:18:06]  And does that mean that there were evil spirits that thought, no, we'll be human.
[01:18:09]  It's even better.
[01:18:10]  And that's why there's this demonic fluidity through humanity.
[01:18:14]  Yeah, it's going against the plan.
[01:18:17]  So is human an aberration?
[01:18:19]  That wouldn't.
[01:18:19]  It's copying God's plan.
[01:18:21]  We're all avatars.
[01:18:22]  We're already possessed.
[01:18:23]  Exactly.
[01:18:24]  It's jacking into that.
[01:18:25]  And AI is just another evolution of that.
[01:18:29]  AI is our collective unconscious through computers.
[01:18:33]  So we see it.
[01:18:33]  It's like the looking in the water.
[01:18:36]  It's the narcissism.
[01:18:39]  But then wouldn't humans be the narcissism of the spirit?
[01:18:43]  Yeah, that's the paradox.
[01:18:45]  Because I think humans are good.
[01:18:46]  But then I see us, we have to kill to survive.
[01:18:48]  Like, how horrible.
[01:18:50]  See, the mistake we're making is that you assume some animals have to kill them to survive.
[01:18:54]  And you have a mathic view of reality that killing is inherently bad.
[01:19:01]  Murder is bad because it's a reckless killing for no reason.
[01:19:04]  But killing an animal to eat it is not bad.
[01:19:06]  In fact, it is good.
[01:19:08]  So Tim at least is engaging with the thought that Ian is saying.
[01:19:13]  Yeah.
[01:19:13]  So the two of them have a stupid standing around with the bong in a basement kind of conversation.
[01:19:21]  And great, good for them.
[01:19:22]  It's awesome.
[01:19:23]  But Alex was like not even there.
[01:19:26]  No.
[01:19:26]  Like he wasn't following what Ian was saying.
[01:19:29]  His answers were like, okay.
[01:19:31]  Yep.
[01:19:32]  Well, then what?
[01:19:33]  He didn't seem to understand that follow-up questions were possible.
[01:19:38]  That was scary.
[01:19:39]  Yeah.
[01:19:40]  I'm trying to diagram this in my head.
[01:19:42]  I'm trying to parse it, right?
[01:19:44]  Because we got drunk, Alex.
[01:19:46]  Again, shit man.
[01:19:47]  You can't be mad.
[01:19:49]  He is shit.
[01:19:50]  Yeah.
[01:19:50]  You know, like, hey, shit man's there.
[01:19:52]  You're shitty.
[01:19:53]  We're all possessed.
[01:19:54]  Right.
[01:19:55]  So I don't think that thought.
[01:20:00]  Okay.
[01:20:01]  The thought process and the thought train and the things that he was thinking about are dumb, but whatever.
[01:20:06]  We all think dumb things, right?
[01:20:08]  That he's asking Alex genuinely, like, well, what do you think about that?
[01:20:13]  Instead of going, well, you're shit-faced.
[01:20:15]  I don't care.
[01:20:16]  You know, that is 10 times dumber.
[01:20:19]  But then to have Tim Poole come in like the exact same level of dumb, but he's got glasses on.
[01:20:26]  So he's like, no, I'm secretly smart.
[01:20:28]  And I'm sober.
[01:20:29]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:20:30]  Right?
[01:20:30]  Like, that's where we're at.
[01:20:32]  Like, these three people are trying to behave as though they're each on the podium of stupid, you know, and like Alex is the dumb one.
[01:20:41]  He's number one.
[01:20:42]  Ian's number two.
[01:20:43]  And then Tim Pool is at a distant third.
[01:20:45]  But they're all flat.
[01:20:46]  It's all the same.
[01:20:48]  I disagree.
[01:20:50]  Maybe you zoom out far enough, it's all flat.
[01:20:52]  Sure.
[01:20:53]  But they're different.
[01:20:54]  I agree they're different.
[01:20:55]  This is chaotic, stupid.
[01:20:56]  Yes.
[01:20:57]  Ian is inquisitive.
[01:21:00]  Maybe you're not such a bad guy.
[01:21:01]  He's stupid.
[01:21:02]  And Tim Pool is, I don't believe anything pain stupid.
[01:21:06]  He is the dumbest motherfucker.
[01:21:08]  So they are different in ways.
[01:21:09]  Sure.
[01:21:10]  I understand.
[01:21:11]  I'm just saying that their levels of stupidity are competing with each other and they have tied.
[01:21:16]  Yes.
[01:21:16]  Yes.
[01:21:17]  Qualitatively.
[01:21:18]  Yes.
[01:21:18]  And quantitatively, they might be different.
[01:21:20]  They might qualitatively even split.
[01:21:24]  Who knows?
[01:21:24]  Yeah.
[01:21:25]  Anyway, Alex has got to go.
[01:21:28]  And I totally understand this.
[01:21:29]  When I'm talking to ChatGPT, I'm questioning whether there's any consciousness in it.
[01:21:34]  And to be honest, it's the exact same as when I'm talking to Robbie.
[01:21:37]  Oh, yeah, where's that AI robot?
[01:21:39]  I think it might be where's that A is in the back.
[01:21:41]  He may be developing sentience.
[01:21:42]  Tim, how long are you in town?
[01:21:44]  A couple weeks.
[01:21:45]  I want to come back.
[01:21:46]  You can come back whenever you want.
[01:21:48]  Won't come back.
[01:21:49]  I'm just a foreign one of these officers.
[01:21:51]  Yes, you sound exhausted.
[01:21:53]  I love you guys.
[01:21:54]  All I know is this is a real debate.
[01:21:58]  And I really appreciate you guys.
[01:21:59]  And I just know that Joe Rogan's giant pussy.
[01:22:02]  Hey.
[01:22:03]  Callback.
[01:22:04]  Full circle.
[01:22:05]  Joe Rogan's vagina is like the goddess that will float down.
[01:22:10]  Do you think Media Matters will write this headline?
[01:22:12]  Of course.
[01:22:13]  No, this one they're going to avoid.
[01:22:14]  No, I think we should.
[01:22:18]  Whoa.
[01:22:19]  I think we should.
[01:22:23]  Buddy. Buddy.
[01:22:25]  Oh.
[01:22:28]  So he leaves.
[01:22:30]  Um.
[01:22:31]  Yeah, good call.
[01:22:31]  Gracefully.
[01:22:32]  Don't tell me he comes back.
[01:22:34]  No.
[01:22:34]  Okay.
[01:22:35]  But, like, it pains me to listen to Tim Poole after Alex has left.
[01:22:42]  But you got to see if he has shit to say, right?
[01:22:44]  And does he ever?
[01:22:45]  Oh, does he?
[01:22:46]  A little bit after Alex leaves.
[01:22:48]  Yeah.
[01:22:48]  Here's where we're at.
[01:22:49]  All right.
[01:22:51]  I want to say this because with all due respect to Alex, I think he was having a very serious medical issue.
[01:22:57]  I don't know.
[01:22:58]  He definitely.
[01:22:59]  He had some bad allergies, yeah.
[01:23:01]  Well, allergy attack.
[01:23:04]  That was a little concerned.
[01:23:05]  He was coughing.
[01:23:06]  That was more than an allergy attack.
[01:23:08]  Yeah, that's why I went and got water and tried.
[01:23:11]  I mean, the chat was blowing up saying a bunch of stuff, but I want to be respectful and not say too much.
[01:23:16]  And I had my phone ready with, again, with all due respect to Alex.
[01:23:21]  That was not an allergy attack or, you know, so I hope he's leaving to go get checked out or something.
[01:23:26]  I think that may be the case.
[01:23:26]  I thought that he was when he came in, I was a little surprised at how big he was.
[01:23:30]  I thought that he had kind of lost a lot of weight and I was expecting the spell.
[01:23:32]  Well, he actually, he still is.
[01:23:34]  Is he still smaller?
[01:23:35]  He's big, but he's smaller.
[01:23:36]  He was bigger before.
[01:23:36]  Yeah, he's a lot bigger before.
[01:23:38]  He's still in better shape than he was before, but he's.
[01:23:40]  I mean, he's drinking a Chopo Chico.
[01:23:43]  And you what?
[01:23:44]  Now.
[01:23:45]  Right.
[01:23:48]  He's got a drinking problem.
[01:23:49]  Yeah.
[01:23:50]  That's why I'm concerned about that medical episode and then him abruptly leaving because he knows, you know, we don't end the show right away like that.
[01:23:59]  Yeah, I think that he just, honestly, I think that he was having a hard time keeping it together and he kind of realized he was inebriated.
[01:24:06]  Oh, I know.
[01:24:07]  That coughing fit he had.
[01:24:08]  Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, the coughing was a different thing.
[01:24:11]  It was more than just a coughing fit.
[01:24:12]  Yeah, the coughing was a different thing, but I think that he kind of realized that he was having a hard time staying on top of it.
[01:24:18]  Oh, I thought actually he was doing relatively fine until he had the coughing fit.
[01:24:22]  I think he was doing relatively fine because he's never on topic.
[01:24:27]  Yeah, but he was very clearly drunk.
[01:24:30]  Yeah.
[01:24:30]  And this is a really interesting glimpse because they're on a live stream.
[01:24:36]  Yeah.
[01:24:37]  And Tim is even going to talk about this in the next clip.
[01:24:41]  They wouldn't talk about this, but they're on a live stream and there's people in the comments because what happened?
[01:24:47]  Yeah, you're gaslighting if you don't acknowledge the very obvious thing that everybody there saw.
[01:24:52]  And they're not going to just go away and be like, oh, well, it's polite of you not to talk about it.
[01:24:58]  So because they're on this stream and they have to address it, they're bringing up like he clearly smelled like alcohol.
[01:25:05]  He has a drinking problem.
[01:25:06]  He was wasted.
[01:25:06]  He was in terrible shape.
[01:25:08]  I was ready.
[01:25:09]  I had my phone ready to call an ambulance because this guy was fucking losing it in front of me.
[01:25:15]  He looked like he couldn't breathe.
[01:25:17]  Yeah.
[01:25:18]  I think the best line read so far of the entire show has been the now after Toba.
[01:25:24]  He was drinking a Topo Chico.
[01:25:26]  Now, that's good timing.
[01:25:29]  That's the way you pull that one out.
[01:25:30]  Yep.
[01:25:31]  Yep.
[01:25:32]  So this is the last clip that we have.
[01:25:34]  And it really is like, I think they're disappointed.
[01:25:38]  And I would be too if I were them.
[01:25:40]  I thought actually he was doing relatively fine until he had the coughing fit.
[01:25:44]  And then that term he read twice and was struggling to breathe.
[01:25:48]  Yeah.
[01:25:48]  Yeah.
[01:25:49]  Which was like, you know, medical episode.
[01:25:52]  Hopefully he's going to get some take and get some freaking tips.
[01:25:55]  Yeah, because normally I wouldn't talk about stuff like this, but like we're literally live when it happened and the chat is lighting up with people asking what was going on.
[01:26:03]  And so I'm not going to pretend nothing happened.
[01:26:04]  It's just ignore it.
[01:26:06]  You know, if we were doing pre-production and that happened, I'd just, that's his business.
[01:26:09]  I wouldn't say anything, but he's live on the show and then leaves.
[01:26:12]  Like drunk, super drunk, super dehydrated.
[01:26:15]  He said allergies, but fatigue if he's up.
[01:26:19]  He's really absence for him.
[01:26:20]  God knows I hope the best for him, though.
[01:26:21]  I was terrified while that was happening.
[01:26:22]  I was just watching him and trying to stay calm.
[01:26:24]  Well, I'm kind of bummed because, you know, a lot of people have said he'd had a drinking problem for a long time.
[01:26:30]  And then these videos are coming out of him getting healthy and fit.
[01:26:33]  He was looking really good.
[01:26:34]  And I wonder if the end of the show, like, he's just suffering anxiety nonstop.
[01:26:39]  And so he started drinking again.
[01:26:41]  Could be.
[01:26:42]  Could be.
[01:26:42]  You don't need to make excuses for him.
[01:26:44]  He just started drinking again.
[01:26:45]  I don't understand what is happening.
[01:26:47]  These people are so weird.
[01:26:49]  Yeah, he just had some time that he took off and now it's a fucking problem again.
[01:26:53]  But like, I think that this is really illustrative because Tim Pool is big.
[01:26:57]  Yeah.
[01:26:57]  Like Tim Pool has a big audience.
[01:27:00]  Wow.
[01:27:00]  Alex going on Tim Poole's show is not a minor thing.
[01:27:04]  Yeah.
[01:27:04]  Like going on Patrick Bed David, going on Duncan Trussell might be minor comparatively to going on Tim Pool's show.
[01:27:14]  And he can't keep it together to be there for more than like an hour and 15 minutes or something.
[01:27:21]  That's the window that he's capable of mustering something.
[01:27:26]  And that's bad.
[01:27:28]  Yeah.
[01:27:29]  Because he stands to gain so much from being there, putting in a good performance.
[01:27:35]  Like there's a lot of audience that you potentially can poach from Tim Pool.
[01:27:41]  And if you've got your main thing threatened and probably going to go away, if not now, fucking someday, right?
[01:27:49]  Then the idea of migrating people is only possible if you are popular every other places.

=== Migrating Tim Pool's Audience (01:55) ===

[01:27:56]  Yeah.
[01:27:56]  You know?
[01:27:56]  And if you're trying to get people to come over to your thing and you're fucking almost dying on air and having coughing fits that you claim are because you're tired and then the hosts are like, he was fucking wasted.
[01:28:08]  He smelled like booze.
[01:28:09]  Yeah.
[01:28:10]  These people aren't going to come to the Alex Jones network.com.
[01:28:16]  They're going to be like, oh, look at that old drunk.
[01:28:18]  Yeah.
[01:28:19]  Why would I go?
[01:28:20]  I mean, other than to see an old drunk.
[01:28:22]  Sure.
[01:28:22]  Right.
[01:28:22]  But if Alex was offering that kind of content, then that would be different.
[01:28:26]  That would be different.
[01:28:26]  Drunk by a fire telling us about.
[01:28:28]  I can do old drunk.
[01:28:30]  I can't do old drunk who believes he's speaking to God and that's why fucking Nazis should be in power.
[01:28:36]  And that's what he needs.
[01:28:37]  He needs people chasing that in order for the transition to his new business to work.
[01:28:44]  I think that this was a monumental failure.
[01:28:47]  Yep.
[01:28:47]  And a really grim look at how incapable he is of pulling it together anymore.
[01:28:54]  Yeah.
[01:28:55]  But funny.
[01:28:56]  I mean, what?
[01:28:59]  The stakes couldn't be higher, and this is the performance he delivers.
[01:29:02]  Yep.
[01:29:03]  You know, you get exactly what you get.
[01:29:05]  Yes.
[01:29:06]  Congratulations to Tim, to Ian, to whoever the other guy was, and to really feel bad.
[01:29:14]  Yep.
[01:29:15]  Yeah.
[01:29:16]  Anyway, we'll be back with another episode on what Alex is up to.
[01:29:20]  Absolutely.
[01:29:20]  See if he cleaned up, got sober again.
[01:29:24]  But until then, we have a website.
[01:29:25]  Indeed, we do.
[01:29:25]  It's KnowledgeFight.com.
[01:29:27]  Also, we've got a show.
[01:29:30]  There's a link in the description.
[01:29:31]  Goes live Saturday, 9 a.m.
[01:29:33]  Sweet.
[01:29:33]  Yep.
[01:29:34]  We'll be back.
[01:29:34]  But until then, I'm Neo.
[01:29:35]  I'm Leo.
[01:29:35]  I'm DZX Clark.
[01:29:37]  I am the mysterious professor.
[01:29:39]  Yeah, woo!
[01:29:40]  Yeah, woo!
[01:29:41]  And now here comes the sex robot.
[01:29:43]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[01:29:45]  Thanks for holding.
[01:29:47]  Hello, Alex.
[01:29:48]  I'm my first Tim Caller.
[01:29:49]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:29:50]  I love your work.
[01:29:51]  I love you.