Knowledge Fight #1043 dissects Alex Jones’ May 24, 2025 episode with Chase Geiser, mocking his exaggerated claims about the French Open’s generational shift and debunking Nazi-alien tech theories tied to Hermann Oberth’s unverified 1974 quote. They expose Geiser’s "Infowars Calk"—forcing links like SpaceX’s solar power to military energy schemes—while Jones pivots to Trump’s nuclear deals, framing Saudi Arabia’s allegiance as a trade for "unlimited free energy." Frustrated by Jones’ sober credibility, the hosts ridicule his selective moral outrage and divine revelations, concluding his narratives collapse under scrutiny, revealing more about self-delusion than truth. [Automatically generated summary]
Because there's very clearly, and I watched the match today between Alcarath and Ben Shelton, and it was great.
And both of them were playing very well.
And the thing about one-on-one individual sports at the absolute highest level is that sometimes the difference between people is just one person actively wins this shot, whereas the other person doesn't.
And thank you for joining us on this Saturday afternoon emergency transmission from our podcasting studio section of the Alex Jones Network Backup System.
If the bad guys are successful shutting down InfoWars, which they're trying to do as early as June 6th.
I'm in federal court.
I'm in state court.
Just type my name into Google if you want to follow all of it.
They do not want it sold to anybody.
They say they want it closed.
They say they do not want money.
And they're separately all over the news saying, we're finally going to get our money closing Infowars, which isn't even worth a half million dollars of equipment.
Most equipment's like 7, 8, 9, 10 years old.
So this is all separate.
This is paid for by the folks at Bigly.
And the Alex Jones Network's not owned by me.
RealAlexJones.com is not owned by me.
TheAlexJonesStore.com is not owned by me.
And that is going to finance the new company and the new folks and the new owners and the same crew right out of Austin, Texas.
And the very folks we're working with, you'll hear those announcements soon, are already moving in and closing on the building they're getting.
And so regardless, even if Infowars gets saved, we're going to move into better facilities and everything.
This is just a bridge, you know, in that process.
So they thought all their attacks were going to shut us up when I did, let's not exaggerate, when I did probably about 1,000 reps of ABS today.
Today was an ABS day.
I did about a thousand ab exercises today.
I did it because I love the country and I love my children.
I want to be here for a long time.
I did it because the enemy wants to break me and make me miserable.
So I think that if all of this is true, I don't care about the abs, but if this stuff about his business is true, I want to get a look at those contracts.
And also, I think it's kind of funny, the idea that if these companies then wanted to offload the Alex Jones store or the Alex Jones network or whatever, they could sell it to somebody and Alex is still on contract.
Well, that wouldn't be the worst thing I've heard.
I feel like we're in a situation where...
Tragic.
Very, very sad.
But I think if we all stop and we just sit down with our feelings, we prefer the ending to Old Yeller to being like, well, let's watch Old Yeller decay into a horrid movie.
I want to get into Trump, and I want to get into his announcements of the super technology, super energy, we control time and space, we have weapons you wouldn't believe.
Well, I don't just believe Trump.
I know theoretically that everything the theoretical physicists, the quantum mechanics in the 1890s said they could do, by the 1940s they could do.
What?
Wait, wait, wait, what?
All that stuff you see in Star Trek and all that was people looking at the physics.
And extrapolating out what can be done.
And continually, whatever you can theoretically lay out with enough technology and upscaling, we're able to do.
So Alex is reporting that China launched a new sun like it was done because it was overcast on a day when the government wanted to go to a beach party.
The real story here is that they set a record for the longest maintained stable nuclear fusion reaction at 17 minutes and 46 seconds.
They did this at their experimental advanced superconducting Takamok reactor, which is colloquially called an artificial sun.
This reactor has been operating in China since 2006.
Because of the way that Alex is covering this and the details that he's adding in, it's hard to imagine that he knows anything about this story past him skimming a tweet that said artificial sun.
And you get kind of sad for a while, but then you figure out how to change yourself so you're nicer, and Andy McDowell likes you, and then everything's cool.
Now, when I talk about interdimensional entities, that's in all the ancient texts of all the ancient cultures.
And these things would just appear and disappear.
And then you understand quantum mechanics and physics.
And they've tested that out now, how particles go in and out of this universe.
and when we observe them, it affects them, and there's a lot of different...
And we know the dark matter is way more powerful energetically than even the third dimension, and that it's holding this dimension in place.
Of course, theoretical physicists 100 years ago postulated that.
Now with all these advanced instruments, they're able to read that and track that.
So the future's here.
It's just not evenly distributed.
And I was told that eight years ago Trump was going to try to start digging into this and deploying it.
It's a real way to innovate and get us out of debt and things like that.
If you think the computers of the 80s and 90s caused a boom, that is child's play compared to free energy or zero-point energy or different types of things along those lines.
Alex loves talking this shit, but I really don't think he has any idea what any of it means.
I have zero confidence that he could coherently answer the question, what is the observer effect, if an interviewer asked him.
He has a couple of these buzzwords that he throws out to make this bullshit sound scientific and scholarly, but I've watched Reset Wars.
I know that he doesn't understand any of these concepts in more than a superficial sense.
And I think that that's where you can tell that he knows that what he's saying is a fraud.
If you knew that interdimensional entities were popping in and out of our reality and that we have the science to explain it and harness that, you would learn more about that.
Alex believes that superpowers are real, they're attainable, and that science explains them.
But then he seems to know his total awareness of this subject is vague references to the Observer Effect, Max Planck, and dark matter.
Yeah.
I don't believe that he would be so uncurious about this field of study if he actually believed that it was a portal to other dimensions full of probably demonic beings.
And his lack of actual interest leads me to suspect that he doesn't really believe any of this stuff.
He just knows that it's the best way for him to seem interesting and to mask his Christian fundamentalism that's at the base of all of his beliefs.
But also when he says that the future is here, it's just unequally distributed.
That's literally the point of that article looking forward to the end of humanity that he constantly cites as the globalists sending secret messages to people.
Again, of course, government's always looking at it from a weapons perspective.
If you think the atomics of the 40s were bad to destroy life on the surface of the Earth, that looks like a pop gun compared to what these technologies can do.
But I'm not specifically looking at those different secretive classified technologies.
The U.S. is obviously way more advanced than others.
The question is why.
It's why I heard that Greg Reese report earlier, you know, that really gets to the heart of just the German line of that and where they said it came from.
And I've read those texts.
That's in the history.
They believe they were getting it channeling aliens.
They said, well, you're crazy.
This is top scientists in Germany, you know, 100 years ago, just a little more than 100 years ago.
That was all the rage then was mind power, but then whatever they were given either was already pre-programmed into our subconscious mind, and we were just channeling what had already been put there epigenetically because we did it before, and it just took on in the mind that it was aliens or the Aryans, or were they really channeling interdimensionally this information?
And that's what they do at Skull and Bones, what they do at Bohemian Grove.
That's what this is all really about, and the aliens, always throughout history and culture, or the deities, the gods, the starmen, Always demand human sacrifice and children.
So, Alex is saying that the Nazi scientists said that they got help from aliens in creating their space program, which is part of what Greg Reese's report was about.
Weird side note, Greg Reese recently quit Infowars and went on Twitter to accuse Alex of working for the Jews and all kinds of other shit, so it's wild that Alex is playing his reports again.
If I had to guess, I would say that Reese was getting good numbers with his reports on InfoWars and thought that he could go solo, then realized quickly that InfoWars-type material doesn't really make money organically, and having decent numbers on his videos doesn't mean shit if he doesn't have a supplement business in order to funnel actual money through.
So he made nice with Alex and maybe he's getting a little bit of a good idea.
Because that's exactly what happened with Mark Dice.
Reese's report is largely based on a quote from German engineer Hermann Oberth, who allegedly said, quote, We cannot take all the credit for our record advancements in scientific fields alone.
We have been helped by the people of other worlds.
The website Quote Investigator took on this challenge of authenticating the quote in 2016, and they were unable to find any evidence that he actually said that.
In the course of digging into the quote, they found a 1954 article Oberth wrote that does indicate that he theorized that UFOs and aliens were real and said, quote, we should try by every scientific means that seem feasible to get into contact with them.
That phrasing is pretty clear that he wasn't in contact with them, at least in 1954.
But Alex says that he's read books where these quotes come from.
You know the history, you gotta read the history.
And the problem there is that there aren't any books that Oberth wrote that say this.
The quote that Reese is using comes from a 1974 book by Robin Collins called Did Spacemen Colonize the Earth?
My general rule is that if you're someone who writes multiple books where the title ends in a question mark, you have an uphill battle in terms of me giving you any credibility.
So though Greg Reese doesn't give a specific citation for this quote, and he couldn't because it's fake, just before he throws this quote out in his report, he mentions Oberth's book, The Rocket to the Planetary Space, which doesn't include any of these claims of getting alien technology from aliens.
Reese introduces this primary source, then makes an unrelated claim, knowing that the passive listener will just assume that the primary source he cited backs up that unrelated claim.
And so I want to start off today with Tim Poole, GOP congressman.
And Tim Poole, Alex Jones was right about aliens being interdimensional.
representative eric burleson talking about the government whistleblowers that are now advising him and uh...
what the government these projects uh...
in space force and beyond uh...
we're telling him what's really going on and i'm not sat there and talked about all been on air off air i've sat there and talked about generals And so they all understand that.
Until the 90s, they were putting a lot of their money into MindPower, but they found that it was uncontrollable and a lot of people went crazy that got involved in it.
Because they see that as more automated and controlled, and the globalists are mainly going with an anti-human silicon model instead of the Uber-mentioned model, the Superman model that the Germans have been pushing.
And so let's go to this Tim Pool clip, and we'll come back again to Trump.
What if, you know, because I think, you know, again, Alex Jones talking about interdimensional beings that are sending guidance to elites telling them what to do.
What if...
It explains what we can't see.
We don't see other civilizations.
It explains how we're like, how do you travel a billion light years?
You don't.
It's through space-time or whatever, through dimensions.
And what if these are not necessarily smarter, but more advanced entities that are controlling the flow of our existence for their own ends?
Tim Pool and a house member from Missouri who Alex has never heard of before did a podcast and they talked about aliens.
This doesn't strengthen Alex's claims about aliens.
aliens being interdimensional beings all it does is demonstrate that other people talk the same kind of idiotic shit as Alex all it illustrates is that no one is trying to be taken seriously anymore and there's no consequences for just doing yeah black light bean bag bong circle talk yep Yep.
This is very much like a, oh man, listen, if the angels are actually aliens, then it makes sense that the, and you're like, oh god damn it, let's just pick one.
Ever since I was a child, and a lot of people have this phenomenon, that's why it's talked about in all cultures and history, I would have dreams of things, sometimes innocuous, sometimes serious, usually traumatic, that would come true exactly as I saw it.
I'd have a recurring dream of a quasi-homeless, deranged drug addict with a pink and green striped polo shirt, pinkish-purple and green shirt.
And then coming up and attacking me, and I had the dream like dozens of times, and then six months later, I'm at a convenience store with some friends, didn't even have a car yet, and this crazy guy on drugs came around and pulled out a knife, and probably would have killed me, but as soon as I saw him, I knew what to do, because I'd had the dream.
I was like, oh my God, that's the guy coming.
So for whatever reason, interdimensionally, I was given that information.
And then right before they tried to kill Trump and Butler, and I came over here and talked about this, I kept having these dreams.
Of people sewing explosives into a reporter's purse that she wouldn't know, getting on Air Force One, service-to-air missiles, shooting down Trump, being brought in.
They would blame Iran through Mexico to the U.S. Months later, that came out, that cover story.
They were going to blame Iran for killing Trump.
I was having this.
And I wasn't just having this reoccurring dream 10, 15 times.
It was all these were pieces.
I'd wake up and remember it all, but I knew, oh, this is one of these dreams where you wake up with like a headache.
None of the specifics he's giving are even open to critiquing.
I have no idea if Alex had a dream about a guy in a striped polo shirt or if he had a nightmare after watching a Freddy Krueger movie.
I have no idea if some guy did try to stab him at a gas station or if he saw someone who kind of looked like a guy in his nightmare and he assumed that that guy was going to stab him.
Alex is unreliable as a narrator on this kind of shit, so I don't care.
And then with the Trump stuff, Alex has been saying that Trump was about to get assassinated since 2015.
It's not that he was right in the case of Butler, it's that he wasn't wrong for once.
In order to give him any credit as a psychic for that, you have to explain away all the thousand other times he was wrong.
Like, if you bet on double zero every time at the roulette table and you lose 50 times in a row and then you win on spin 51, you aren't a psychic.
Then the other Trump example is the Air Force One blowing up, and that didn't happen.
There were no missiles or bombs sewed into purses, so that supposed prophetic dream that he had, it's not even an example of something coming true.
That's an argument against his dreams having any meaning.
Alex is telling a story about how his dreams are prophetic visions from God, but conveniently he leaves out the 200 dreams that he had about needing to go to Gene Hackman's house.
I mean, it would either have to, or I would have to be proud of not having saved Gene Hackman's life, thus proving that I could have with my psychic powers.
I had a dream of the tower smoking and on fire the day it happened.
And then I woke up and I was in the showers.
I broadcasted my house down.
I was already getting ready, but then I went to take a shower out before.
I said, get up my underwear, get ready, and then shower your rest.
And I literally had the TV on and started.
And then my show wasn't until 11, but I ran and went on GCN with the morning host immediately.
But right before Trump got shot, it was in June.
Normally this happens five, six times a year, and I don't like clocks in the bedroom with me, and I usually put the cell phone turned off in the bathroom.
Would wake up, be told, get up, and now go look at the clock.
And I would get up, I told the story a lot, folks, but I would get up, go turn the phone on, and it would say, okay, it's going to be this time.
Then you saw what happened, and they started flipping out really bad at that point, and the Justice Department started calling up, you know, the CRO saying, he's out of control.
We want him off the air.
You know, the day I said they're going to kill Trump, because obviously they're hearing this, and whoever's talking to other people, going, this guy's, we've got a psychic on our hands.
It's like, this guy's got to be stopped.
This is, you know, he keeps knowing what we're going to do.
And then I start saying to God, well, you know, God's like, I want you to tell people this stuff because I want them to know how real this is.
I'm like, oh yeah?
Well, you see this specifically, then tell me stuff.
So on election night, it was Wes who noticed this because I forgot, like 10 o 'clock at night, I'm sitting there and I feel the same presence, like somebody standing behind me.
It's like, say that Trump is going to announce his win at 127.
And I didn't think to listen and say, okay, what's the time zone?
And I'm sitting there and Owen's in the other studio and I'm talking to him.
And I go, I'll just cover it this way.
I should have said, God just told me this.
You can say, well, then maybe Trump hears it does at that time.
But however it worked, I was getting the message, and you have to really quiet place the most eyes.
What King David talked about, you've got to really get quiet to hear it and really understand it.
And I'm sitting there on the air, and I go, oh, what do you think he's going to announce he's won?
Like, I think that there is something that is so unwonderful in terms of, like, wonder about how he's describing these interactions that he has with God.
Almost like somebody deliberately switched what good and bad are at a very young age when he was impressionable, perhaps when he was gassed underneath a house.
Yeah, I mean, you know, the problem with hanging out with Satan is that you can never be sure you're not still hanging out with Satan, because that's kind of Satan's bag.
And I'm sure this has happened to you hundreds of times over the course of your career, where you're just kind of – They're all loading simultaneously, and then it clicks, and you see how they're all connected, but you don't have the details.
It's a theory at that point.
And then when you go and you look and you do the research, you see that all the pieces that you put together, it's actually you just you can find the instruction manual somewhere else to confirm that this is actually the puzzle.
And so it's really interesting for Chase to describe how his thought process works, because what he's describing is essentially how you get trapped in motivated thinking.
He exists within the Infowars structure, which is a deeply conspiratorial space.
That is to say that nothing can be explained away by coincidence unless it's absolutely necessary.
Like if you need to get Trump off the hook for something, maybe you can say it's a coincidence.
But other than that.
And if you're smart enough, you can make connections between everything to decipher their code, and if you get good at that, you can tell the future.
Because this is Chase's paradigm, those connections between stories and events must exist.
If they appear not to exist, it's because he hasn't worked hard enough on finding the connection, so to accept the explanation that something is unrelated to something else is essentially the same as admitting failure.
So Chase sees a bunch of news stories that are possibly connected in the real world, or they might not be.
For Chase, they have to be connected, so his brain forms connections between these stories.
He fills in some blanks and comes up with a storyline that lets him explain how story A is really about story B, which is being caused by story C. The stuff that he uses to fill those blanks in and form those connections between stories is what I'm going to choose to call Infowars Calk.
The larger mythology of Infowars conspiracy is what gives that caulk its binding power.
So once Chase has introduced this caulk to bind together these unrelated stories, that caulk becomes more important than the individual data points themselves.
You can have three different stories and then connect them with a simple adhesive of saying the globalists did it.
And now you don't have three stories and a theory, you have one story and one explanation.
This might seem like a small point, but it makes a difference in how these next steps play out.
Now, when Chase is going to go seek out more information, he's looking specifically for things that prop up the explanation that he's come to.
He's no longer looking for better understanding of those three underlying stories.
he's looking to defend his use of InfoWars caulk to bind the whole thing together into one story.
At the core, it's very easy to do, mostly because you're just making stuff up and then telling a story about what you imagine all of it means.
It's also very sloppy and it gets a bad result, which is why these folks like Chase are essentially unemployable by anyone who has a more rigorous process than InfoWars.
He gave us a big window here.
Sure.
I find connections, theorize how they can possibly, all these stories could be connected, and then later I go out looking for information, and what do you know?
It confirms the theory that I came up with in order to force a connection between these stories.
That's the interesting thing to me there, is that whether or not there is motivated reasoning here, does it even matter what he's looking for, or is this a man who simply figures out something and chooses to believe he's the first person who thought of it, regardless of whether or not he is.
When I saw the nuclear stuff from Trump, and it's in the context of...
I'm like, oh my god, it seems to me that what they're doing with this AI arms race, they know that it's going to demand a tremendous amount of electricity.
China is going to wonder, our opponents, our enemies are going to wonder, how the hell are they powering these facilities for this computation?
Because we know their existing grid can't handle it.
It's got to be off-grid in case there's some EMP or cyber attack.
But how are they powering it?
And so you have to have a front for it.
You have to say, all right, we have this new nuclear technology, these isolated nuclear reactors that we're going to put on site to do it.
Yeah, we've got this Starlink array, and I'm like, I wonder if there's a way for us to wirelessly using Tesla technology, not Tesla like Elon Musk's Tesla, but Nikola Tesla technology, transmit technology from space to the Earth.
And obviously people have been talking about this for many years.
I didn't realize that really until very recently because I just started looking into it for the first time.
I'm not an astrophysicist or an engineer by any means.
So I look into this and I see that, oh, SpaceX has been doing study after study.
There have been article after article that we've been kind of missing of SpaceX's space-based solar power revolutionizing Earth's energy future.
And they've been sending up these solar transmitters that pick up solar energy in space and then through microwaves send them down to rectennas on the surface to wirelessly provide energy that's estimated to be able to power a million homes.
Per, like, segment of this array.
I see that Japan's looking into it, China's looking into it, and then I see that SpaceX has already been involved in these studies with this technology.
I think to myself, all right, we've got the Golden Dome, which is supposed to be a defense array around the planet.
And they say about these microwave energy transmissions to the planet, you can immediately convert them into directed energy weapons.
The first data point that Chase is starting from is Trump signing some executive orders to push the development of nuclear energy sources in the United States.
The second is Trump wanting to build a Golden Dome space-based missile defense system for the United States.
The third is Elon Musk and Sam Altman being in Saudi Arabia with Trump for his visit with MBS.
So Chase puts these stories together, and the narrative that comes to him is that there's an AI arms race that's going to require a ton of energy.
So far, so good.
That kind of has a connection to Sam Altman and Elon Musk being over there for this talk between Saudi Arabia and the United States.
Whatever.
The amount of energy is going to become a vulnerability that China could exploit, though, because they're doing something like attacking our grid with an EMP.
They could take out the power sources that we're using for this AI arms race.
So we can't build the energy infrastructure to handle the AI arms race on the conventional grid where it could be attacked.
In order to hide the energy that we're going to use to create the AI stuff, Trump is making moves to boost our nuclear energy.
So now the plan is that we're going to make all these nuclear reactors on military bases so they're safe from attack, and we'll say that they're being used for the Golden Dome missile defense system, but they're secretly for AI.
The Golden Dome thing is a cover story that Trump is using in order to not...
There's an explanation that Chase has talked himself into by demanding that all of these stories that he sees must be connected.
From this point, he tries to explore how he can expand this explanation, so he looks at Starlink and Tesla technology, but instead of relating what he finds to the original stories, he relates them to the synthesis of the stories that he created by forcing them to be connected.
This is a fine thought process for a bong circle or a writer's room in a sitcom, but it's not a process to truth.
It's very bad for truth preservation because each step along the way, as his mind is adding new layers onto things, more and more stuff is just from his imagination that he's added into the story.
And at a certain point, those things from his imagination become load-bearing.
Probably, and how much of that is just like the nature of how he works, and how much is just like, this is, I'm going to fit in as best as I can with this machine.
Real quick, the context of this is the deal that's been made is that Saudi Arabia has to side with the United States over China in exchange for unlimited power.
And again, the corporate media, though, the globalists, the BlackRock, they won't say that.
That's why they made America not John Wayne and freedom and Marilyn Monroe.
They made it on Elvis Presley and, you know, the founding fathers and all.
All that USAID stuff was meant to make the world, oh, we don't want America, it's a warmonger and it's satanic, so that they would adopt the leftist globalist model that they want to take the planet over with, but instead we're now promoting Americana worldwide and everybody wants a piece of it again.
It's what Trump's already telling us, but way more.
They read him in on everything, and the deal's already been made.
And again, the old Saudis tried to do a coup.
They ran the Vegas attack, and Trump went in there with that faction, the Crown Prince, and killed them.
And it never even hit the nose.
It was like, oh, well, some people disappeared, but that's what happened.
And then the old, and then they basically just, that's what Trump said.
For a thousand years, you know, you guys are smart, you invented a lot of stuff, mathematics, all this stuff, but for a thousand years you've showed nothing but problems, you know, crusades and all that.
That's all going to stop now, and what it really is, that's why he came out and said women, you know, don't wear burqas, all that, is the very place where the Mohammed thing comes from, basically, at least if this continues on, is like actually saying, yeah, we actually want the global peace deal for real, because they can understand this warfare goes on, and the Christians, the Muslims, we're all going to kill each other.
So the fantasy scenario that Alex and Chase are talking about is that Trump has started telling the world that they're either on our side or on China's side because we have free energy and the whole worldwide economy that relies on oil is about to blow up.
It's going to be gone because we have free energy.
They're now going to be on Trump's side, and in exchange, he's going to give them free unlimited energy machines in order to replace their reliance on oil, which is the source of a lot of their international and domestic power.
This is all nonsense, but if we imagine it's true, then Alex and Chase are saying that Trump is giving the Saudi government access to this magic free energy, which they can then restrict in ways that maintain their grasp on power that's largely tied up in oil and money that's made from oil.
This isn't about giving people access to technology and freeing the world.
It's about negotiating with a tyrant about how to preserve their tyranny in the context of new technologies.
This is literally a large part of what Alex complains about the globalists doing in his book The Great Reset.
It's very ironic to hear him take this kind of approach.
Like, I don't believe any of this is true, but even in the storytelling narrative framework that he's telling it in, it's contradictory to what he is supposed to care about.
Some of my favorite moments of your career that I've seen have been when other people have interviewed you and you've talked about some of the more esoteric stuff.
Because on the news, you're so focused on covering the hard-hitting 30,000-foot stuff to give people the useful information of what's practically going on.
But then when you're on podcasts with other people, you know, I'm curious as to how this translates to the UAP stuff and the interdimensional stuff that's going on with this technology.
I mean, it's almost like the Book of Enoch where you have the watchers that come down and they give secret technology and it eradicates humanity because the real debate is whether or not this technocracy, even if we wield it, is in and of itself a ring of power that will corrupt us even if we have good intentions.
It's like this populist move to claim this technology through the Musks and the Trumps.
And others, and then there's the globalist move to hijack it.
But is it, I mean, do both paths lead to the same end for humanity, or is there a way to wield this type of power, knowledge, and technology without totally crucifying the planet?
Well, that's really the big question, is whether Atlantis exists or not.
That story's being recreated now, where they have this great technology, free energy, but it explodes and blows up their continent, and then knocks civilization back.
And all the cultures talked about it, so I mean, sort of that's going on.
The history we've been given is not accurate, obviously.
And then just like you take a pig from a farm, It's got tusk and big, long hair on it.
What?
People can choose different paths and all the stuff.
What do you think people look like?
We lose this wildness and turn into what we think, these ideas we've seen of these aliens.
Those aren't aliens.
Those are breakaway civilizations of humans that are off doing all this other stuff.
And they made bad decisions, so the Bible's telling us this is the demons.
These are the bad guys.
This is people that, you know.
Already blew the earth up once and it ran off and turned into this and they're like beaming their interdimensional program to get us because they don't want us to emerge and have a different plan.
So this is our chance to do it again is what I pick up.
I find it fundamentally weird to believe wholeheartedly in a god of goodness and also that that god has purposefully misled you about the universe being filled with a bunch of people.
And different civilizations and things that, because we're all given free will, there's been countless civilizations that make the wrong choice and destroy themselves or choose.
To go down a dark path and then they turn into their own thing and always try to create their own universe and then run off and build it.
And then I've been able to look into those and not pretty.
But no, when people try to do that, try to create their own thing and then it becomes hell.
It's bad news.
Alex has seen it.
He's peered into things.
He could write these things down and they'd be amazing sci-fi franchises, but God doesn't let him.
God won't let him.
There's a firewall up.
He sees all this amazing stuff that could just be perfect, but his brain magically forgets it unless it's what God wants him to use it for, like telling what time it is in the middle of the night or predicting a variable time zone.
I think what makes it good when he's drunk is that we can assume, because of the lowering of inhibitions, this is something that he does not necessarily want to tell us.
When you're sober and you've done a thousand crunches, I don't want to hear about breakaway civilizations and how you've peeked into other worlds and you could totally write it down and you'd be the most famous sci-fi franchise of all time, but God won't let you.
Well, I mean, I guess God decides when to reach out to you and how.
But there's bad things, and for whatever reason, there's different ways to connect to them.
And the veil gets lifted, because obviously your eyes are picking up a lot more.
But your brain filters it out, because it would be too much to see.
And so that's what's happening when you're taking those hallucinogens is the third dimensional veil, it's in the Bible, lift the veil, and you can then see what else is going on.
Well, because he's in the whole part of the conversation is about like they do DMT drips because hallucinogens lift the veil and allow you to see more of the universe than you normally see.
Yeah, but it's, I mean, look, all I know is that...
And then the other people, you know, who I like a lot, you know, who mean well, like David Icke, he's like, well, they're still pushing AI and they're still, you know, they're blowing up the old system to bring in the new.
And, you know, this is really the big deception.
And, of course, there's people in all those camps that are just opportunistic and want power and just want to build it and they want to be in control of it, okay, so they can dominate and, you know, because they're scared of others having it.
I can't judge Elon or Trump or any of that.
I just know how do you defend the old thing that didn't even want us to even know about it and deploy all of it to be anti-human and cut off energy instead of give us the free energy?
So what happened here in this clip, the way that Alex changed the subject, I think is important because what you're hearing is rationalization.
David Icke is a lunatic, and he's wrong about a ton of shit, but he had the correct conspiracy position to oppose Elon Musk.
It was very advantageous for Alex and people in his world to support Musk in terms of getting their Twitter accounts back.
But it came at the expense of having to support a guy who's literally doing all of the things Alex has claimed to oppose for years.
David Icke made the right choice on this one, and he doesn't have to rationalize this kind of shit, but Alex does, and it's embarrassing.
He's trying to lesser of two evils a conversation where one side is the literal devil.
It's pretty hard to ever accept any criticisms of Trump and Musk when the basis for your support for them is, they're not the devil.
This is essentially a parody level of the way that the Democratic Party has operated in the time since 2016, where anyone is better than Trump.
As long as the candidate is better than the obviously horrible things that Trump or the GOP would entail, that candidate needs to be supported because the alternative is Trump.
It's a bind that we've gotten ourselves into where we don't aspire for what's possible and good, but we're just trying to avoid the negative and we're over-compromising.
Alex is doing the same thing, but with the devil.
As long as Trump and Elon Musk are slightly better than the devil, then he has no reason to judge them.
And to be clear, that's not what Alex believes.
This is just the public-facing version of his thinking.
In reality, he supports a white identity-oriented state that upholds the social hierarchies that all coincidentally put the classes that Alex is a part of at the top.
Trump and Elon are political avatars of that white identity-oriented state that Alex wants to bring into being, so they get a pass because, I guess...
Yeah, yeah, I mean, the saying of it out loud, which is, hey man, at the end of the day, the bad guys don't like them, that means they're the good guys, is like a complete abdication of any sense of real thought.
And when a lot of the time the people you do like are determined by people you don't like not liking them, you end up in a real fucking messy situation when it's time to not like the people that your enemies also don't like.
Well, that's because they're really just followers in the system and they could see we were winning.
Musk came on earlier than that because his brother almost got killed from the shot and he almost had a heart attack from it and they took his son and cut his wiener off.
I'm sorry to say that.
I'm not trying to lessen it.
But I think they did, chemically at least, and turned him against him.
I mean, they've tried that.
I know one of my kids got messed with.
They never got into it, but they got to, you know, it is dangerous out there.
It's advantageous for me to not throw a stone at Elon Musk, so I'm going to demand that everybody else not throw stones at him, and it is unchristian to throw stones at him.
And I know, it gives me great confidence that it's not an afterlife, it's the other dimensions.
And this is just a manifestation of the higher dimensions because I have experienced it.
And I've told people this stuff on air, and people go, well, that's the Gnostics, or that's this, or that's Rudolf Steiner.
And I'm like, I never read that.
I go, read it.
It's like I see their perspective, the way their minds were able to put together what basically I've seen, but with my template, with the things I've seen in a more modern context, conceptually, I'm surprised they got it that close with what they had at their time because it was all theoretical.
Right, but the question, did you have kids, is supposed to be like, well, you put life into the world, you knew that there was going to be pain and suffering, but you thought it was worthwhile to have kids of your own, but I didn't.
So what then?
I think that I could still make the argument, because I don't have kids, that God is cruel.
To unconsensually bring life into the world.
I'm not saying I would make that argument, but I could.
Well, I think that that mentality takes into account the triviality of our lives in a cosmic sense.
Sure.
You know, like if there is, if there is like a divine, And there is a deity in all of this, It's not losing sleep over whether or not we get to bask in the completion of eternity.
I'm always amazed at people with that, that afterlife stuff, because I can't imagine dying and then waking up and not being like, for real, more of this shit?
And whether or not you choose to, like, bask in the completion and perfectness of God forever, or you decide to go on missions and do all this, that is dependent on your earthly experience?