#1033: April 25, 2025 dissects Alex Jones’ arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan for obstructing ICE’s deportation of Kilmer Abrego Garcia—a 14-year Salvadoran refugee—while right-wing media falsely labels him a gang member. Jones plays COVID vaccine whistleblower Justin Leslie’s debunked claims, then pivots to Nick Fuentes, avoiding his neo-Nazi ties while enabling anti-Semitic dog whistles. The segment mocks Jones’ erratic shifts: from defending Trump’s immigration policies as "white-pilled" progress to abruptly endorsing Israel, then deflecting with Palantir conspiracies and Hitler jokes. His frivolous tangents expose a pattern of prioritizing spectacle over substance, revealing how far-right grifters exploit chaos to avoid accountability. [Automatically generated summary]
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So Phantom Thread, I think, is a P.T. Anderson movie with that guy who's like a really good actor.
And essentially, he's too busy.
He works too hard.
He's in a tumultuous relationship with his wife.
And then he gets very ill.
And his wife gets the chance to take care of him and spend time with him and their relationship works like that.
And then it kind of turns into a cyclical thing, like he keeps getting ill.
Anyways, the twist is it turns out they have a weird kind of fetish thing going on where she feeds him poison mushrooms and they kind of get off on it.
Democrat Party judges that got raided yesterday and this morning in New Mexico and in Wisconsin by the FBI for their cut and dry obstructing justice, violating federal law, and protecting gangbangers, illegal aliens, you name it.
We already discussed the case of the arrested judge in New Mexico, but now there's a second high-profile instance of the Trump administration arresting a judge.
No matter how concerned you may be about it, I think you might be, maybe you should be a little more concerned.
You know, this is bad.
Scary stuff.
So this is about a judge in Milwaukee named Hannah Dugan, who's accused of intentionally misdirecting federal agents.
A man was scheduled to appear in her court for a domestic violence charge, and ICE agents decided to come scoop him up there to deport him.
From NBC News, quote, Dugan and another unnamed judge are alleged to have confronted the agents in the hallway, asking them whether they had a judicial warrant and telling them to speak to the chief judge, according to the affidavit.
After Dugan escorted Flores Ruiz, And then the FBI arrested Dugan after this, the judge.
This is a real mess of a situation because in a very technical legal sense, her arrest isn't just a flimsy piece of political theater and intimidation.
Dugan was arrested after an FBI agent filed an affidavit, so none of this is proven in court, but based on the details outlined in that document, Dugan's actions are a bit suspicious.
For one thing she ushered the guy and his lawyer out the jury door and then returned to the bench to hear more cases.
From the affidavit, quote, There are a lot of open questions about this whole situation.
For instance, Dugan seemed to believe that the agents who were there needed to have a judicial warrant for their arrest, whereas they only had an administrative warrant.
According to the law, she's incorrect, but if she did believe that was needed, her telling them to talk to the chief judge becomes less suspicious.
The government's angle on it is that her telling them to do this, to go to the chief judge, it was a ploy to get them away from the courtroom so she could allow for Flores Ruiz to escape.
However, in the affidavit, when the agents were able to speak to the chief judge, he said he was, quote, That strongly indicates that it was a fluid situation, where Dugan may not have had clear directions on how to handle this, and it might be reasonable to think that she believed all such arrests at the courthouse were inappropriate.
Even if this is the case, there does appear to be a bit of subterfuge in her actions, which I personally don't think is that bad.
I don't really have a problem with it, but I can understand how a court might.
I've read up a bit on this case, and it does seem like the idea of arresting Dugan isn't some senseless authoritarian move, but it's also not appropriate.
It's a wildly outsized reaction to the information provided in that affidavit, and it's hard not to see this as making a statement.
It's very hard to see.
This is an isolated incident.
If you had this set of circumstances presented in a textbook as a hypothetical situation, I think it's easy to judge Dugan's actions more harshly, but that requires ignoring the reality of the anti-immigrant sentiment that our government is clearly operating off of and the danger that ICE represents to people.
At a time when people scooped up by immigration agents are ending up being taken to detention centers in El Salvador, and the bar for what can get someone in trouble with immigration officials Even if Flores Ruiz is guilty of the crimes that he was charged with, he was in her courtroom to stand trial on those charges, not his immigration status, so I can imagine her not wanting to be used as an instrument for that.
But even that relies on a little bit of me assuming her mental state.
As someone who wants no part of enabling ICE, it's easy for me to read this case and project that motivation onto her, but that might not have been the situation at all.
I think that folks who want to justify Dugan's arrest are going to be able to, but even so, it represents the direction that things are going, and it's very bad.
I think it speaks to a dangerous precedent and shit, even if...
I think her actions...
Descriptively could probably be like, hey, you're not supposed to do that.
Only you have to remember the thing that they always remember like 20 years too late, which is that now no one's going to show up to court, you idiots.
And then at the same time, if someone is presumably a big threat, and it's dangerous to try and bring them into custody, being at a courthouse is strong.
Because you come into a position where they've walked through metal detectors, and they're somewhere where it's pretty safe to try and apprehend them.
I think that this situation's a mess, and I think that it's very easy to get drawn into a, like, she did nothing wrong, and I'm willing to believe that on a personal level, but I'm not willing to pretend that the law doesn't say, like...
Warns the shots are poisoned, joins Alex Jones live on air.
Great job to American Journal.
I was working out this morning when the show started, but I then went and looked on Infowars, who they had on.
I was in my office making some phone calls, and I went, wait a minute, they've got the big whistleblower on first that Elon Musk just responded to massively and went public and said, look.
It wasn't just his brother almost got killed by the shot.
He thought he was going to have a heart attack when he took the mRNA shot.
He didn't say it was Pfizer or Moderna, but that's the same stuff.
Moderna's just four times stronger.
And I told you that's what woke up Musk.
I was told by people very close to Musk that he got sick from it, but I didn't know it was his heart.
So it really hurt his brother bad and a bunch of his top engineers.
So he's a smart guy.
He can look around.
It's not anecdotal when a bunch of your people get sick.
Well, where's this engineer?
Where's that person that's always here?
Where's the other workaholics like me, my best buddies?
So it's still anecdotal when you have multiple instances of something you observe.
These are just anecdotes we're hearing with no proof of anything.
That's what it means.
Having two friends who are sick can make you more persuaded by the anecdotal evidence that you're looking at, but it doesn't magically become empirical evidence because there's more stuff to look at.
This is a failing that Alex's information space has.
He doesn't understand what it means to prove something, and in the absence of that concept, he's replaced proving with persuading.
If he can rattle off a bunch of shit, he may be able to persuade the listener of a point, but he hasn't proved anything.
That's kind of the whole strategy of the information war when you really get down to it And what he uses like a Alex has this big scoop.
So it's yet another fake whistleblower claiming that the COVID vaccines are poison.
This guy's name is Justin Leslie, and he worked with James O 'Keefe and has written some affidavits that he sent to The Hague, hoping to get all the usual suspects charged with crimes against humanity.
I guess that Elon interacted with this guy on Twitter, and now Alex is tripping over his feet to try to get him on the show, but I don't think he did his homework.
Leslie doesn't really have any strong evidence-based claims to blow the whistle on, and an essential E!
They reached out to him to get undercover footage and offered him a job specifically to string him along and never release his information, according to Justin.
He's basically accusing James O'Keefe of being controlled opposition and says that O'Keefe admitted to going to Bohemian Grove.
Exactly what Alex is looking for.
Also, there are little tip-offs in his self-written affidavits that Leslie might be a bit of a sovereign citizen type.
It does not come off great, reading those affidavits.
The suspension of the election was done by the Romanian Constitutional Court, and this appeals court does not have the ability to overturn things decided by the Constitutional Court.
Alex is pretending this is a lower court, but it is not.
The court is jurisdiction over, like, administrative matters, which doesn't include rulings from the Constitutional Court.
So basically, this court ruling should never have even been possible.
They were hearing a moot question that the court itself had no ability to rule on, which is why a former Romanian judge described the whole thing as, quote, judicial abuse.
Jalen Georgescu got just under 23% in the first round of voting in the initial election, and the second-place candidate, Elena Lasconi, got just over 19%.
Alex is saying that Georgescu won the first round with a huge majority because he's a liar, and he's a liar because lying is the easiest way for him to do his job.
That are openly, federal and state, saying we don't care what the cut and dry law says.
We don't care if an immigration court and a person is an illegal alien and even has another criminal record on top of them illegally coming here.
We aren't going to work with you.
We are, in fact, we're not going to let you know when they're even in jail for something.
And then when we release them, we're not going to notify the feds.
And then we're going to house them in our houses.
What the governor of New Jersey bragging and Tom Homan said fine you've been referred for criminal prosecution and you've got AOC holding public seminars and training events with illegal aliens including known gang members and criminals on how to evade federal warrants?
that is cut and dry obstruction of justice that I get what Alex is saying, but he really needs to be held responsible for the implications of his positions.
AOC isn't holding workshops where she tells people how to evade warrants.
She's been working to help people understand their rights so they don't get jammed up if ICE shows up somewhere.
Alex cannot believe that informing people of their rights is a subversive act because his career is entirely based on knowing your rights so you can stand up to the police state.
Yep.
be someone who wants immigrants deported while still being someone who's deeply concerned about the preservation of individual rights, but he's not.
Because he never really cared about the preservation of rights to begin with.
That was the respectable facade that he put on in order to not feel bad about the monstrous positions he actually wanted to advance.
80-20, every issue that's 80-20, 80% popular, what Trump is doing, which is true on the border stuff, it's like 87. And the Democrats are for the 15% or, but in a lot of these things, it's like 95-5, where the Democrats are picking the thing that almost no one supports.
And now it's turned out that their little poster child out of Maryland...
You know, gets caught with smugglers in a smuggler car smuggling people years ago and just everywhere.
Of course.
Of course.
It looks like the guy's like a capo in MS-13.
But it doesn't matter.
He's here illegally.
But the New York Times says he was just living quietly in Maryland when he's getting picked up all over the country and they're putting in the police reports.
This is a smuggler vehicle owned by smugglers with these illegals.
This is a smuggling operation, we believe, but then they just get turned loose by the Soros DAs that control almost every town in this country.
So Alex is talking about the case of Kilmer Abrego Garcia, who's a guy who lived in Maryland and then was taken by ICE and sent to a jail in El Salvador.
The Trump administration claimed that he was a member of MS-13, but then when lawyers pushed back on the fact that they haven't proved or provided any evidence of that, the government tried to say that they'd sent Garcia to an El Salvadoran prison due to a, quote, administrative error.
Abrego Garcia fled from El Salvador when he was 16 because gangs were threatening to kill his family.
He lived here for the past 14 years, working a construction job, getting married to a U.S. citizen, and raising a family.
I'm not sure he's the best person in the world, and I don't really think that matters in this case, because he was legitimately abducted and sent to a foreign prison, specifically one in a country that the U.S. immigration courts had previously determined that he faced a well-founded danger in returning to.
Ever since this case has come up and the Trump administration made an insane admission that he was sent there by an administrative error, it's been the mission of the right-wing media to justify Abrego Garcia's arrest and deportation, so they've been finding whatever dirt they can on him to make his kidnapping seem okay after the fact.
There was an argument that he was a gang member and that was based on testimony of a confidential informant after Abrego Garcia was arrested in 2019 for loitering outside a Home Depot looking for work.
This informant said that he was part of a gang in New York despite him never having lived in New York.
There's credibility issues with this part of the allegation.
Then there's this new piece that Alex is talking about, where Tennessee police have released video of a traffic stop from 2022 where Abrego Garcia is pulled over for speeding in a car with eight passengers.
Abrego Garcia explained that they had been on a job in Missouri and were traveling to Maryland for another job.
In the video, the officers speculate about how this could be human trafficking, but it's never established, nor is it even seriously alleged.
The cops let him go with a warning, and the situation had nothing to do with a Soros DA, like Alex is trying to pretend.
This is all bullshit.
This is a really clear-cut case of an immigration kidnapping, which is why you see people like Alex working to justify it.
They want more of this kind of thing, and they know that they can get the public to care a little bit less if they demonize the person who is a subject of that kidnapping.
If they make the narrative that this guy deserved to be sent to an El Salvador in prison, they make it easier to justify later kidnappings and disappearings.
But that's the other side of the judge thing, is that if you had any courage as a judge, you'd be like, well, now you guys are kidnappers, because that's the definition of crimes that we call kidnapping.
If I was the Supreme Court, I would have said, yeah, I guess it's fine, because at least then you don't admit that there's no way for you to enforce anything if he just decides he doesn't want to.
Yesterday, the president said this, and I quote: "We cannot give everyone a trial because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years." Now, the court has said that those subject to the statue needed to be given the opportunity to challenge their removal.
To me, I interpret that as a sense of due process.
I think due process was given, like the Maryland father, the MS-13 terrorist that was removed, he had due process.
He was ordered removed by two different immigration judges.
But here's what they're doing, Bill.
Here's the plan.
The Biden administration overwhelmed the system.
10.5 million people came to the border.
They know it's going to take years to get through the court docket.
By then, they're hoping there's another Democratic administration in.
They'll have U.S. citizen children.
Then all of a sudden, nobody wants them removed.
We're spoiling their plans to have future Democratic voters.
And through a census, have control of the House.
Through a census vote, Democratic sanctuary cities get more seats in the House.
This is their plan.
That's why they overwhelmed the system.
That's why they didn't detain them.
When they detain them, they get a hearing in 35 days.
They released them.
Now it's going to take five to seven years.
They're going to keep playing this game to the immigration courts, to appeal after appeal after appeal, district judge, district judge, to slow us down, because their hopes is they'll gain power again, then they can warrant amnesty to 10 million illegal aliens that released them.
country illegally.
That is their plan.
We're trying to remove these public safety threats and national security threats as quick as possible.
They're putting every roadblock and massive in front of us to prevent us from doing that.
So that's the Trump boarders are arguing that giving people a day in court is a roadblock that the Democrats have put in place to stop him from being able to expel immigrants.
Sure.
I think that this is a very important snapshot because...
This is normal now, apparently.
Sure.
This is a highly influential member of the President's Cabinet who's on TV saying that accepting immigrants and refugee seekers into the country is part of a conspiracy to create more Democrat voters and shift the census so there are more Democrat seats in Congress.
This is insane right-wing conspiracy propaganda, and in a functional world, saying things like this would immediately disqualify someone from holding public office.
He should be...
At its core, what Homan is expressing is a white nationalist narrative.
The Republican Party, and Trump's base in particular, view themselves as the last hope for, quote, traditional Americans, which is to say white people of European descent.
Democrats winning elections is understood as the erosion of this power base, the toppling of the hierarchy where white people are on the top, because Democrats push multicultural ideas.
The Democrats could never get elected on their own because the traditional Americans would always win in a fair contest, which is why the Democrats are trying to bring in all of these non-white populations who would naturally be inclined to oppose the hierarchical society where white people are.
Which is just and good and natural.
We have top government officials who are expressing this on TV, and honestly, I don't care if he believes it or not.
The fact that someone can say something like this and not immediately get impeached, I really do.
Well, I mean, I feel like we've been, you know, like, okay, my entire life, right, people People really like to be like, ah, we're the good guys in World War II thing.
And then it was cool that we punished the Nazis.
And now I feel like we were too hard on the Nazis.
Because, boy, if you want to...
Oh, you can't look at them and not look at us and be like, ah, fuck.
So, I was a formulation analytical scientist that worked directly on the COVID-19 vaccine.
It was my first job out of college.
I was 23 years old when I first started working there.
I started working there in March of 2021.
So the vaccine rollout had already started.
But I knew that the vaccines were injuring and killing people initially, in which, you know, I was looking for a job opportunity, like I was telling Harrison on the American Journal.
But I also knew that I knew better and that I had the opportunity to be a whistleblower.
If I took the job and see how it was from within and, you know, take it all from a truth tellers and truth seekers perspective, someone who is critical and hypercritical of what was going on inside the walls of Pfizer.
So introducing this story, this guy shot himself in the foot.
He's not a whistleblower.
He's an activist who took a job somewhere with the explicit intention of gathering information that pushed a predetermined conclusion.
he wasn't someone who worked at Pfizer who knew things and just had to get them off his chest he set out from the jump to support the narrative that he wanted to push and it's boring I'm not saying you can't do something like this it's just that it's not whistleblowing trying to frame his actions in that category is just dishonest He also didn't work for Pfizer.
In his affidavit, he says that he got a bachelor's degree from Rhode Island University in biomedical and pharmaceutical sciences, and then got a job with Mind Lance Incorporated.
They're basically a staffing and temp agency that a lot of people view as quite disreputable.
If they were providing contracted work for Pfizer, then it would have been the lowest of entry-level positions, which makes me a bit suspicious about what this guy even did for work and how long he might have been there.
His affidavit also makes me not trust him much since he says, quote, He also said, quote, Virology has been proven pseudoscientific and there's no need for any vaccines ever.
Alex supports neo-Nazi and white nationalist ideas.
It's just that simple.
It's cute that he's trying to mask his bigotry by saying that you can't judge Nick for being a white supremacist when the left is being so anti-white.
As long as you can describe the left as being anti-white, then there's no space for criticizing white supremacists.
The issue here is that if you accept that framing then all you have to do to enable and support white supremacists is to pretend that the left is anti-white.
As long as you're able to push a narrative that says the left is anti-white you have carte blanche to never take responsibility for your part in endorsing white supremacy.
And if you look at the things that Alex think represent anti-white sentiment on the left, it becomes very obvious that he's deeply invested in creating the perception that the left is anti-white, as opposed to documenting and discussing real instances of racism.
He goes out of his way to create narratives that paint the left as anti-white, because the more successful he is in doing that, the more cover he has to promote people like Nick.
The bottom line is that Alex wants to be a white supremacist, but he really doesn't want to have people make him feel bad about it.
By presenting things this way, he can have his cake and eat it too, and it's pretty obvious.
I guess you can say that Nick is a reaction to the country being far left for so long in the same way that the Nazis pretended that they just wanted to save Germany from the degeneracy of the Weimar Republic.
Regressive, authoritarian bigots always rely on these kinds of rationales to avoid feeling bad about the things they promote and do.
Always insisting that they started it is a self-soothing tactic, and I can understand why it's necessary for people like Nick to get through the day.
Well, yeah, I mean, I think that you're legitimate because I know you, I've met you, I've talked to you, and I think we're on the same page on some things, not so much on other things.
But as you know, you do have intelligence families.
Intelligence is generational.
If somebody's dad or grandfather's in intelligence...
Typically, they'll follow suit.
And so I just find it a little bit interesting.
I have said on the show, when it's someone like yourself or someone like Tucker, who I've called out, he has a much more direct connection.
You know, his dad was running Voice of America, which is U.S. propaganda.
And so I look at something like that, and I think any listener, any viewer, has to discern and evaluate for themselves.
Whether they think that's suspicious, whether they think that's a cause for concern, or not.
At the same time, I think that another tool that intelligence can use is to pose as a whistleblower.
You know, to borrow a phrase.
Flood the zone with maybe false information or misleading information, partial truth, and it's our job as the audience to discern that.
So I don't consider it necessarily disqualifying if somebody is a whistleblower or was in government or intelligence, but I think they do deserve an extra bit of scrutiny, or at least those connections.
Well, and that's stuff that only ever comes from the Pentagon.
You know, there's no UFO stuff that comes from anywhere else other than the DOD, the security apparatus, people like Harry Reid, who's a complete spook.
You know, he was the one who was pushing that in the Senate for a long time.
So that's exactly, it's a case in point.
It's like, you can have whistleblowers, you can have people that are legitimately breaking with the system, class traitors, whatever you want to call it.
But then you also have this kind of...
Other dimension, you have a parallel track that they run where they pose as the conspiracy theorist.
They pose as the dissident.
And, you know, and that's not always the case, but sometimes it is.
And that's why, like you say, you have to judge them by their fruits.
You can't more be like, hey, listen, I'm telling you all of these things, and if all of these things are true, we both know they're not, but if they are true, you...
I see a big thing against me, and I don't bring this up because I'm being attacked.
I see it a lot, and I want people to understand where I come from.
Jones is the ultimate, you know, hopium person.
He's saying globalism is in big trouble.
He says we're winning.
He says the New World Order's in deep trouble.
And I look at where I've come in 31 years, and I look at all these populists being elected, and I look at them having to arrest their political opposition, the globalists, and I look at going out on the street and all I get is love now, 10 times what it even was a few years ago, and that's my gauge, and I see Trump doing a lot of good things, and I see them talking about globalism, the new world order, and I see a new international system forming.
It doesn't mean AI isn't a problem.
It doesn't mean there isn't a lot of stuff Trump administration is doing that I don't agree with.
But I mean, overall, we've come so far.
That I just can't help but say, yeah, we're really turning the tide.
I think we're starting to win here.
And I've been doing this a long time when, like, almost nobody knew about this then.
When most people weren't even born yet, we were in diapers.
And I don't say, like, hey, sonny boy.
I mean, I see how far we've moved the ball now, and I'm just very excited.
You've earned the right to say, Sonny Boy, because you're right.
And it's been going on for a long time, and I agree with you.
I think generally there's a huge cause to be optimistic.
There's a huge cause to be white-pilled.
Any way that you can cut it, I mean...
I think about 10 years ago when I was growing up, it seemed like wokeism, leftism was unstoppable.
You know, when you think about those Obama years, early on or in the middle, 2012, 2013, it felt like things were going in one direction forever.
Always more left-wing, always more progressive, always more woke, always more government, more globalist.
It seemed like it was the end of the world.
It really did.
And it seemed like that was never going to change.
Like, there was nothing that could even push it off of that track.
It wasn't even possible.
And so for us to come this far where Trump has been re-elected after January 6th, after COVID, the vax mandate, after the dark winter under Joe Biden, honestly, even though I had my criticisms of Trump and I didn't vote for him for reasons we could get into, It does, I think, give me a lot of confidence and optimism that he was reelected.
It says something about how the country has fundamentally changed.
That's a very sad exchange, and if Nick were being a little more blunt, he would probably say, your battle's been fought.
You have no relevance in the future.
Alex has earned his right to call him young man or sunny boy, and to celebrate that wokeness has been beaten back, and Elon Musk owns Twitter, so he can post slurs now.
Trump tried to overthrow the government, and then he got re-elected.
They've illustrated that the rule of law isn't binding, so Alex can just bask in that.
Go to the hammock.
The problem is that Alex's mood is so erratic that he goes from, the devil is about to eat me and there's nothing I can do about it, to the globalists are defeated and there's no hope for them ever again, from day to day, depending on how he's feeling.
He's not consistently celebratory or full of hope.
His messaging is all over the place.
On a very basic level, Nick knows that Alex is dumb, and he's only helpful to the cause so much, and he's served most of the purpose that he can now.
He needs Alex to be a retired elder statesman who fades into the background and lets the next generation carry up the new battles, but Alex refuses to go away.
He needs to be used as a prop.
The way that Tucker was using him at the show in Philadelphia or Pennsylvania.
And he's not.
He's refusing to go away and just be the fucking prophet or whatever.
It feels like Nick is willing to let Alex call him young man, but Alex isn't willing to let Nick call him old man.
I mean, it is like the one thing that, like, the irony of what he's saying, right, is that if you are somebody who is into Democratic electoral politics, you should take that as a positive thing.
It did feel, after Obama, like, hey man, I think we're just on a roll.
Things are going to get more and more, you know, we can't have everything we want, but we're getting a little bit closer and a little bit more accepting and a little bit more tolerant and all this stuff, and then, fuck!
We got smashed, right?
And now it feels like, oh, we're just gonna never go, and we're just gonna keep fucking getting worse, and we're gonna keep fucking getting worse, and then...
Things will probably go the other direction.
But that's also an incredibly depressing thought.
Yes.
Because then, after going for a while, it's then going to go like, ah, fuck, you know?
Well, where I'm at on the Israel thing, or people always saying this guy works for Israel, it's just stupid.
I'm just, I mean, I would be tired of hearing, you know, the same bird outside when I went to go chirp, chirp, chirp forever.
It's nice to hear some birds chirp, but after a while, it's just the same thing, same thing, over and over and over and over and over, and it's just retarded.
And so, you know, I'm covering geoengineering, they admit they've been doing secretly.
I'm covering the poison shots.
I'm covering the human trafficking.
I'm trying to cover it all and then just let people make their decision.
My issue on Israel is Israel's done a lot of really bad things, and I've exposed it a ton.
My issue is that I don't want to go after Israel and sit there and make it about Jews, period, because I don't see it as one unified group, and I think it's more effective to criticize bad policies and get everybody against.
Netanyahu wanting to stay in power for 23 years, winning a war with Iran, that most experts agree will take us closer to nuclear war than even...
The Ukraine disaster.
And Trump is saying no, no, no, no, no, no, blocking it.
I know from behind the scenes, Trump is pissed at Netanyahu and really doesn't like him.
And then I get to hear, oh, he works for Netanyahu.
No, he doesn't.
And I just know the facts and I see the fruits.
Is Trump an enemy of Israel?
Absolutely not.
Is Trump to support Jews?
Absolutely.
And, you know, in general, I support everybody.
I don't hate Muslims individually.
I just know they're not compatible here because their culture is a takeover.
The thing about the Jewish and Israel topic, the reason that people are preoccupied with it, the reason why I'm preoccupied with it, is because we do believe that the system fundamentally has a Jewish character or a pro-Israel character.
And so I was thinking about that, actually, because I hear that a lot.
People say, oh, all you talk about is Jews, Israel, this, that.
And I think that would sort of be like saying if somebody lived under communism, if someone lived in the Soviet Union, all they talk about is how the communists are bad.
All they talk about is how the Bolsheviks are bad.
On this front, I think if you're interviewing this guy and he starts talking about the Jewish character of the world system and all this, I think you're done.
I think that's probably about where you're like, okay, I get it.
I was trying to get you to play ball, as we have a hundred times before, and you just threw in my face that you disagree with my position because the system has a Jewish character.
Yeah, so that's a very revealing clip because it shows how fake Alex's beliefs are.
to the government deporting people who are here legally just because they've participated in protests that the government doesn't like.
He has to be opposed to that because obviously it sets a horrible precedent and his whole career is based on this idea that they're going to repress other people so they can eventually do the same thing to white people.
He doesn't care about Mahmoud Khalil, even though this is precisely the situation that he's saying is the one that starts the precedent.
If you have a principle, sometimes it requires taking a hard stance, and that's something Alex is unwilling to do.
He would have to stand up to the Trump administration's very clear abuse of immigration powers in this case, which threatens to shake his whole house of cards.
So instead, Alex just buys the propaganda.
He makes excuses for why this case is actually totally cool, and it's not indicative of a slide that threatens everyone's rights.
He's an intellectual coward.
Nick is a disgusting piece of shit, but he has one strong advantage over Alex, and that is that he can craft his own positions.
Alex is beholden to his team, so he has to just do this stuff that makes no sense, like hold this position.
Whereas Nick, at least, he's slippery, and obviously he doesn't support this guy because they share an opposition to the state of Israel.
Nick is just...
Willing to try and launder his positions into more respectable spaces in order to convince people who are opposed to Israel's actions, convince them that there's a Jewish character to all this.
And he also is savvy enough to know when an anti-Semite and a person who's concerned and opposes Israel's actions, when their positions would be the same.
He's savvy enough to understand that so he can try and...
You know, people say we support deporting the foreigners who are supporting Hamas and Hezbollah.
That's this big problem.
And they say that's part of mass deportations.
The issue is we're not really getting the other deportations.
1,500 students have been served a notice by the State Department.
It's being run by Marco Rubio.
That's who's behind this.
1,500 students who are here on a visa have been served a notice.
The visa's canceled because they criticized Israel.
They were involved in a protest.
and people say, well, as long as we're getting them out.
This is happening at the same time that Trump says we need to slow deportations down for migrant workers.
He said twice, first in a cabinet meeting, then he said in an interview, he said when it comes to these migrant workers that are on farms, in hotels, in hospitality, and other important sectors of the economy, he said we actually don't want to actually physically remove them.
We're going to ask them to leave.
We want to get them back on a visa.
They're trying to slow it down, if they're trying to get them out at all.
At the same time, you have very high priority, 1,500 people with a legal right to be here.
They're being expedited.
Their removal is being expedited for no reason, other than they criticize the fact that we're supporting this foreign war.
I see the whole, a lot of the populist conservative space spending half their time on this, and I just, I mean, I think it's way more dangerous, Trump saying, we're looking to deporting citizens to El Salvador.
Now, that's unconstitutional, and that is really bad.
Yeah, it's too far if somebody's like, hey, I don't think that the government should just be able to randomly grab people and send them away from where they live.
And he's like, I agree with that.
Then again, you know, we're already way past that.
So, like, linguistically, right, if I say something like, I will not be dragged into war because I'll jump two feet first, you motherfuckers, I would assume somebody would take that as a rather pro jumping two feet in.
I mean, in this regard, if you say to me, getting rid of all the Jews will solve our problems, I will say, as a problem solver, that is not going to solve any of the problems beyond you hating a group of people.
The trade-off is the other thing that they're bashing heads on, like nature documentary style, is if you are Nick Fuentes, you are much more secure, but smaller.
If you're Alex, you can trick more people, but you're always on quicksand.
You're always on the edge.
You're always trying to get ahead of if anybody finds out that I'm full of shit, you know?
So this conflict is like, Nick, I'm always going to be more popular than you are.
And Nick is like, that's because you're a fake lying piece of shit.
I mean, because the conversation, if you say something like that, we need to decouple and they can go be in Israel, right?
Here's all the things that you're not saying.
You're not saying, I will get them away from us, which is going to be a struggle because most of them are people who don't like being sent to places that they're not from, right?
Because the foundations of the last, like, I don't know, eight, ten years of his career has led him to a point where he can't actually confront what Nick is doing.
They have an enemies list of two to three million people that they've identified as potential violent extremists.
And this is being run by Alex Karp.
Alex Karp said his biggest fear is that Christian nationalists will take over the government and throw him out of a window, defenestrate him because he's Jewish.
He's running Palantir.
Palantir has an enemies list of three million people.
I don't think he should control military procurement.
That's my concern.
And Peter Thiel, I mean, he's a suspicious character also.
He says he's a Christian, but he's a gay man.
He says he's a Christian, but he's really involved with this Rene Girard, who's sort of an interesting philosopher who's involved with a lot of the Straussians out there at the Hoover Institute.
Alex can pretend like this back to Israel thing, like he's so annoyed at Nick or whatever, but he's facilitating this, and that's exactly what he wants.
Yeah, so by essence, you continuing to hold these positions, were you to get power, would ensure that this man would die horribly the way he is afraid of.
You're running into the same fucking problem everybody who thinks defenestrating people is going to solve things runs into, which is you're going to run out of people to defenestrate.
What do you think of Elon Musk having 15 kids and wanting the population not to crash, and even GCP going to a three-child policy, breaking with the globalists?
Yeah, and a lot of times when those guys who are...
Pretending they get 500 women or whatever.
They're lying.
They're putting on an act and they actually cry when no one's looking about how they don't get with anyone.
Because they've set this expectation for themselves that they are this hyper-alpha masculine person in this mold that people like Andrew Tate have created.
And it turns out that's not always a functional way to act.
So, I mean, like, granted, these guys have just bought into this, I guess.
And I think that Nick is a little bit more interesting than the general conversation you get with Alex because he's saying more white babies is good, but I also actually believe in the things that I'm supposed to believe in, and so polygamy, that's not cool.
He's conflicted in a way that he should be if his prior baseline beliefs...
Because then we get into conversations like this, all right?
Now, if white people, way back when, had listened to non-white people who were like, hey, you should boil your water so you don't die, we would have more white people.
Is that better?
Than if we did what we did, which was kick them all out of the country or murder them instead of boiling our water?
I think Alex's approach to humor, like, one of my favorite bits is by Dana Gould.
It's the Black Dahlia bit.
And it is a premise that...
Goes on for about four and a half minutes for one perfect, beautiful punch.
And like the extension of the premise, the way that it's told, the compelling nature of the story, and then the retention release of just that short burst, that short punch is so wild that then you laugh for three minutes.