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Feb. 3, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
01:23:08
#1004: January 23, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex in a complicated emotional state, alternating between orgasmic outbursts and interviewing a Canadian idiot about eating bugs.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
20:07
d
dan friesen
34:37
e
ezra levant
06:19
j
jordan holmes
16:53
Appearances
Clips
a
avi yemini
00:05
k
kanye west
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot is there's a new season of the Old People Challenge.
alex jones
Ooh, that's right.
jordan holmes
The Challenge All Stars.
dan friesen
Yes.
They're rivals.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're in teams of rivals.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I think that...
There's a concern that I have that rival-based seasons, where you have to team with your arch-rival, they tend to bring out petty drama.
jordan holmes
Definitely.
dan friesen
And one of the things that I've liked about the old people challenge is people are a little more seasoned.
They're a little more grown up sometimes.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I worry that those two things are going to work against each other.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You know, like old people being mature is not aided by...
You have to work with the person you hate.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
That is interesting.
Although, I mean, maybe that's the ultimate test of maturity.
dan friesen
It could be.
jordan holmes
Maybe we've been spoiled because they haven't been put to the crucible of actually being mature in a situation with the person who makes them most immature.
dan friesen
Right.
Maybe it'll be a series of people overcoming their differences and squashing beefs and growing up.
jordan holmes
That would be every single episode is a special episode.
dan friesen
If it was, I'd be fine with that.
Everyone working out their differences.
That would be an interesting show.
jordan holmes
It would be.
dan friesen
While you jump off a building.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Married in 24 hours or less kind of thing.
dan friesen
Interesting cast, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's fine.
I don't know.
I didn't recognize a few of the people, and I've seen every season of the show.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes
There were some people where I was like, I really think you guys might just be...
dan friesen
I didn't even really remember Frank.
jordan holmes
If they just put somebody on there and were like, this person's been on the challenge and we're just really strong about it, I think I would believe them, even if they weren't.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think I would just buy it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So they could lie to me.
dan friesen
Yeah, why not?
I also don't know that I thought that Devin and Leroy were enemies.
jordan holmes
We talked a little bit in a little bit, but this might be a setup to get Leroy the win.
dan friesen
I think that the two of them are a very strong combination.
Devin's got so many other people who would be his arch rival.
jordan holmes
So many!
He's not not made any enemies.
dan friesen
He's pissed off everybody.
I guess Bananas wasn't available, maybe.
jordan holmes
He could be injured from the Real People Challenge.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, it's nice that that just started right back up.
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
That we have year-round challenges.
dan friesen
It's America's fifth sport.
unidentified
It does seem like they're saying that.
jordan holmes
No, The Weeknd has a new album out.
dan friesen
The Weeknd without the E?
jordan holmes
Without the E. The Weeknd.
It's quite good.
It's very good.
dan friesen
I thought people didn't like him.
Do people not like him?
unidentified
Oh!
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I feel like there was a turn on The Weeknd.
jordan holmes
Well, so The Weeknd's career, the thing I like about the album is that it reminds me of the early days.
Back whenever he did House of Balloons.
dan friesen
I can't feel my face when I'm with you.
jordan holmes
No, way back.
Way back in the very beginning, whenever people didn't even know who he was.
He was just The Weeknd.
And you didn't know he had a name.
And maybe he was from somewhere, but maybe he wasn't.
He could be anybody.
That kind of thing.
He was very mysterious.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And he had real...
Still dirty kind of songs that were sexy, but in like a, oh, this is a Coke-filled, like, this is the bad night where you've had too much Coke and you woke up and you're like, ah, this is no good.
dan friesen
It's dirty, it's a little dangerous, but you survived.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and then he turned into the halftime show, Super Bowl, Michael Jackson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, trying to do that thing.
This is kind of more a return back to the dirty sexy.
I wonder if...
dan friesen
That was prompted by people not liking him.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about the guy, honestly.
jordan holmes
Starboy was a pretty good album.
dan friesen
Motherfucking Starboy.
jordan holmes
But that was like ten years ago.
dan friesen
Was that him?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
I've heard that song in a fucking Walgreens.
That's the advantage of having the relationship with music that I do, is that I've heard everything in a Target or something, but I have no idea who sings it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
That's perfect.
That's the way to go.
dan friesen
There's like a ton of the sort of college rocky kind of songs.
I'll hear a song, but I have no idea who did that.
It's great.
I'm free.
jordan holmes
Back in the day whenever you used to have to know.
Brutal days.
unidentified
Brutal days.
dan friesen
You're just held back by that knowledge.
jordan holmes
Don't need to give a shit anymore.
dan friesen
Nope.
So now my knowledge is all about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
And today we'll be taking a little journey through January 23rd, 2025.
jordan holmes
Wonderful.
dan friesen
As we continue the march of the time after the inauguration.
Where Alex is really getting into the weeds and all of the major things that...
Trump is doing.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So we'll see what he has to say today.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Taco Bell presents the Anunnaki Supreme.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, Five Iron Frenzy rules and Scott will never die.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, shout out to my girlfriend Emily.
Also, has Dan made his own mustard?
He seems like the type.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Listen.
jordan holmes
Have you made your own mustard?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
But I did explore it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I did...
jordan holmes
It's on the table.
dan friesen
No, not anymore.
jordan holmes
Not anymore?
dan friesen
No, but there was a short stretch of time where I was like, it wouldn't be that hard.
unidentified
Vinegar.
dan friesen
Mustard.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You know.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I could tweak a few things here and I just never followed through.
Same with making my own Giardinera.
I was going to do that.
jordan holmes
Yes, I do remember that.
dan friesen
It was too many steps.
It's like four steps.
jordan holmes
That's too many steps.
dan friesen
We also got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much, too.
Steph says that if she doesn't get the new technocrat drop back, she will go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy in an amount of time yet to be determined.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
This might be the right one.
I'm not sure.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype.
I am going to paint once a week on air, and I'm going to let callers call in.
We'll also take emails and request what you want to see me paint.
One, two, three, Matt Damon!
unidentified
Matt Damon!
alex jones
There you go.
Party time.
I'm going to get in your guts.
And the Nazis, in my view, were thugs that shook people down to a lot of really bad things.
unidentified
But they did good things, too.
kanye west
We're going to stop dissing the Nazis all the time.
alex jones
Okay.
I'm thinking about doing some shows, too, where I run the whole thing myself, just hit record, and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight and talk about the nature of the world universe.
I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye, folks, is as good as, you know, sex with your wife.
I mean, let's just get down to reality here.
unidentified
I'm going to go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy.
alex jones
In about 45 days.
America sucks.
We're all racist.
It's over.
Doesn't mean I want to go live, say, in some places in Asia, where you get off the plane over there, folks, they karate chop you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
I forgot which drop was which, and they're not labeled well.
jordan holmes
No, you nailed it, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, I got lucky.
I got lucky.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That song, Up All Night to Get Lucky, that was the weekend, right?
jordan holmes
No, that was Def Punk.
dan friesen
I've heard it in a Walgreens.
jordan holmes
Well, there you go.
dan friesen
So, today, we start off here.
With Alex and Trump.
He did a little appearance.
Made a little appearance at Davos.
jordan holmes
Oh, what?
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Gave a little speech remotely at Davos.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And so this is big, and Alex is thrilled about it.
alex jones
Oh, those are air raid sirens.
And I've aired those for years when we are in danger like the sword's sting glows when goblins are near.
But the air raid sirens toll.
Like the bell tolling for the globalist.
I watched Trump's 18-minute speech, and then the press conference, as of minutes ago, was still going at Davos.
Oh, having adrenaline rushes and endorphin dumps right now.
I'm higher than a kite.
No drugs needed.
And he just declared them defeated.
Told them their plan to collapse the planet and starve everybody is over.
He said that their New World Order is dead.
This is fabulous.
Because the repudiation of their system alone energizes our movement from super light speed to warp speed.
dan friesen
So Trump didn't say much of that stuff.
I don't know how much Alex watched, but I sat through the full 45 minutes, including the question and answer segment, and I didn't come away with the impression that he was telling them that their new world order system was dead.
If anything, I think the tone was collegial and it involved Trump discussing how they're all going to do a lot of business in the coming years.
jordan holmes
Good, good.
dan friesen
In Alex's head and the version of Trump he's built up for the audience to worship, this is a guy who would storm into Davos and tell them all to get lost.
He would upend the whole thing because it was a corrupt system and he was the redeemer.
But that didn't happen.
He gave a speech about his policy ideas, was very polite to the rich elites he's friends with, and then took questions for half an hour.
The problem is that Alex still needs to maintain the image he's built up for the audience, so despite this being a fairly boring speech Trump gave at the central power hub of the globalists, and the fact that Klaus Schwab literally introduced Trump on stage, Alex has to tell the story as Trump going in there loaded for bear, but it's all just an illusion.
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
It feels like just, like, not only should he not be giving a speech there...
Or if he was giving a speech there, it should be cover for arresting all of those people and...
Yeah, it should be a trap.
Yeah, isn't that what Alex wants it to be?
Like, there should be a giant trap door underneath all of their seats where Trump goes, ha-ha, I've come to say hello, and then they'll fall.
dan friesen
Well, and that would only make even more sense because Trump did it remotely.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He wasn't even there, so he could have said...
jordan holmes
There'd be like a gas thing that comes down.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Everyone's unconscious.
jordan holmes
Perfect time for it.
dan friesen
Yeah, but no.
Instead, Trump actually started the speech, I believe, with a thing of like...
Yeah, I would have come.
I would have liked to come.
I would have loved to be there, but, you know, it's so close after the inauguration, I think it would have looked bad.
That kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Fair!
dan friesen
My base wouldn't have allowed me to go travel to Switzerland.
jordan holmes
That's genuinely a very funny thing to say.
dan friesen
I think that was what he was trying to get across.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's true.
dan friesen
So this next clip, I'm not exactly sure what happens in it.
I've forgotten.
Okay.
Because Alex is having this adrenaline rush.
He's higher than a kite.
And my label here is just, Alex makes a bunch of gross noises.
unidentified
Great!
dan friesen
So prepare yourself for that.
jordan holmes
I am ready.
alex jones
We had clips yesterday of the day most groups sing.
They've lost.
The whole world hates them.
There's new clips today!
They're actually groveling.
So, I just got a supercharge.
I mean...
unidentified
I'm sorry.
alex jones
This is not an act right now.
I can't do the show.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
jordan holmes
I'll have what he's having.
alex jones
Yes.
They're dying right now.
Their grip has been loosed.
jordan holmes
Cool.
alex jones
And now we're going to rip their arms politically, lovingly, non-violently out of their sockets and gouge their eyeballs out with ice picks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Alright.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Very interesting.
alex jones
Hmm.
You want to see my war face, New World Order?
You're gonna see it!
I have thrown my full will against them for 31 years!
unidentified
And you can mark this day as their tombstone.
That's only about 10% of how wild I can get.
alex jones
The real Alex Jones.
dan friesen
All right, why don't we go for 20 then, dickweed?
jordan holmes
Ooh, boy.
So that was his...
Let's see 20. That was his war face and his O face.
alex jones
That was great.
dan friesen
Can you imagine being someone who just works at the office there or something and walking past the studio and he's like...
unidentified
How stupid do you have to feel?
jordan holmes
It does have the same feel of if you're walking past and you've got a brown bag, you'd look at it and then throw it in the garbage can.
You'd be like, oh, I gotta quit.
dan friesen
It shows a hell of a day to...
jordan holmes
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
dan friesen
Like, there's IT people who work there.
There's, you know, just normal people who probably don't care at all what Alex is saying.
And you just walk past the studio and he's, like, coming on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sometimes I think about...
dan friesen
Coming, like, violently and stately.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Terrifyingly.
Yeah, no.
Have you ever seen the, like, directors for an NFL broadcast?
They'll do those things where they go behind the scenes and there's somebody who's got, like, 15 different shots Like, hey, can we go to camera three during...
unidentified
You'd be like...
dan friesen
I would just be sitting there like, Alex, mistime the commercial.
jordan holmes
Can we go to a soft yellow light for this?
dan friesen
This growl is going a little long.
So they go to commercial, it comes back, and we got some rock.
unidentified
Cup.
It's alive.
alex jones
Ecclesiastically.
unidentified
Our hands firmly around their necks.
alex jones
And now, with will and determination, we squeeze and press those carotid arteries in and squeeze.
Stop the blood from flowing and look into their eyes and say, you want to destroy humanity?
You want to poison and kill our children?
You want to destroy our destiny?
No!
jordan holmes
You will die!
unidentified
All right, maybe we should turn the top of the nail so I can behave myself.
I'd give Trump about a What is happening?
That's what you fucking got after that?
What the fuck was that?
dan friesen
Violent murder fantasies.
Weird noise.
unidentified
You know, I was...
At least somebody's happy, I guess.
dan friesen
I'm amazed.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
I thought it was a little early in the show for this.
He was getting pretty deep into growly fantasies and shit a little earlier.
It's just that adrenaline that you get when you see Trump give a boring speech at Davos.
But thankfully, as the show goes on, the adrenaline wears off a little.
alex jones
Now the massive endorphin dump, the strongest I've ever had, hopefully it's dissipated a lot, but I'm still just...
unidentified
Cross-eyed right now Mm-hmm Thank you, God.
alex jones
Because I just, I mean, we're being destroyed by these people.
I mean, they have killed so many of our people.
They have wounded and abused us.
They have poisoned the daylights out of us.
They have just done evils that are so unspeakable right out in the open, normalizing it.
And they were trying to break our will and flip us into Stockholm Syndrome, all of us, and just make us give up.
And instead, to see humanity rise, the sleeping giant awaken, with laser beams shooting out of its eyes, is just beyond ecstasy and satisfaction.
And to really, really, really, really, really, really process that.
Oh, my heart, my guts, my brain, my bones, even my old injuries just to feel so good.
Now it's pleasure coming out.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And my shattered arthritic hand, my leg, now it's pulsing with pleasure.
I mean, this is a seismic spiritual flipping right now.
It happened this morning in the last hour.
I could feel it.
They go, hey, you know, he's about to speak.
And I'm like, yeah, I knew that.
It's going to be great.
I was already, like, trying to cover the news, trying to research, and I was just, like, pacing around.
Because I felt a disturbance in the force.
A good one.
The best.
dan friesen
Trump has made my pain pleasure.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
It's pretty nuts.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay, okay.
Maybe, maybe the idea of the God King who was born, who is...
Prophecied to take down these very people, going to them hat in hand, being like, hey, buds, love ya, is enough to prompt an absolute psychotic break.
dan friesen
It could be.
I also have another theory on this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That will pay off in, like, probably our next episode.
I'm withholding a little card that I don't know if I...
Maybe I should just go ahead and tell you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He does have a bit of a welt on his forehead, and he apparently, like, ran into a door in the middle of the night.
unidentified
So he might be concussed.
dan friesen
All of this might just be...
unidentified
He seems just physically incapable of doing his job right now.
dan friesen
He might actually have head trauma.
jordan holmes
You know, that was not even like, oh, this could be anything.
Head trauma should be specific.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Head trauma should be, yeah.
dan friesen
It was, it's, yeah, there's...
On the next day's show, at very least, there's a very noticeable welt on his forehead.
jordan holmes
If you have head trauma and nobody can tell if your behavior is different, that's probably a sign you need something else to happen.
dan friesen
When you have head trauma and people are like, he's a...
A little different.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Maybe?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Do you have an extra cup of coffee?
jordan holmes
Maybe he's just a little on it today.
That's not good.
That's not good.
dan friesen
Nah.
So Alex has a guest on the show, and it is not someone who got pardoned for January 6th.
It is a Canadian fella who saw fit to hire Tommy Robinson and Lauren Southern.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
dan friesen
Just great hiring decisions made.
jordan holmes
Pillars of the community.
dan friesen
By Ezra Levant.
So he comes in because he went to Davos.
alex jones
Oof.
ezra levant
We asked him if he spoke to Donald Trump since the presidency.
dan friesen
Real quick.
He put out a video of him bothering Larry Fink.
Larry Fink was walking around the streets, and Ezra Levant just followed him around, and Fink did not respond to anything.
So he's pretty proud of that.
ezra levant
We asked him 70 questions.
You know which one I forgot to ask him?
Was about his former...
A corporate video star.
I don't know if you remember this, but the young man who shot President Trump in the ear one inch away from murdering him bizarrely appeared in a BlackRock corporate video.
And I forgot about that in the heat of the moment.
alex jones
I'd forgotten as well.
And of course, also he famously says we're going to use BlackRock's ESG control to control everybody's behavior.
ezra levant
You're right.
And Alex, how it works here is...
We're not granted official accreditation to be in the inner sanctum.
So we're outside the security perimeter.
But every once in a while, a VVIP walks out of the security perimeter and mixes with us peasants.
So we're sort of on the street waiting for it.
That's how we got Albert Bourla a couple of years ago.
That's how Larry Fink came out.
So the trick is, you recognize someone, you say, is that Larry Fink?
And you only have...
A moment to jump into gear and try and come up with questions.
alex jones
You guys, let me tell you, you and your crew, Avi, you guys are the best on your feet.
I would not do that good, actually.
I mean, you guys just nail them and nail them and nail them.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
ezra levant
You have such an encyclopedic knowledge of this stuff.
And I'm not sure if you want to play some of it.
To me, the highlight or the low light of our...
Walking scrum with Larry Fink.
I mean, he really said nothing to us.
We just asked him questions and his bodyguard sort of shoved us around.
But there was a moment where I was so frustrated because we were following him.
alex jones
He takes a picture of you.
ezra levant
Yeah.
He stops and he takes out his personal cell phone, aims it right at my face, snap, does the same to Avi Yamini, snap, does it to our cameraman.
And I'm thinking...
I mean, we...
Is he gonna share this with who?
Is he gonna send this to some attack dog?
Is he gonna...
And it was only later that I remembered that that corporate video he made contained, bizarrely...
The guy who, almost like I was stumbling into some, maybe BlackRock is so big and dark and nefarious that they have sort of a team of wet work experts.
alex jones
Oh, there's no doubt about it.
They got 80-something percent of the world under management.
Yeah, man.
dan friesen
So they got a wet work division, and what they do is they put their assassins in videos.
So it's predictive programming.
Galactic contract law requires that their wet work assassins be featured in the background.
Of corporate videos because I think it was like they were shooting at this guy's school.
I think it was just a random thing.
But it probably means that Ezra's going to be killed.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen, from what I know of like, you know, you go back at some oil corporations.
You know, whenever they murder people, they don't use in-house people.
You get outside help.
Nobody has an in-house wet work team.
That's just begging for emails to lead you back to the source.
dan friesen
I do think it's probably too direct.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
And it would be really insane to put the person in a video years earlier.
jordan holmes
It would be truly absurd.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Just to have a wet work division alone.
dan friesen
But this kind of thing is like, oh my god, look at this connection.
This blows people who watch Alex's shit.
It's the stupidest shit, but it's like, oh my god, this all makes sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
What office do you have, what office do you set up for the wet work division?
dan friesen
Uh, the pool.
jordan holmes
It's got a pool?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, it is the pool.
jordan holmes
Oh, it is the pool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, oh, oh, my god, I didn't even get the fucking wet part.
dan friesen
If it's wet work, you're working wet.
jordan holmes
If it's wet work, you're working in a pool.
Well done.
I'm that stupid.
Apologies.
dan friesen
Sometimes I'm too literal.
jordan holmes
You beat me.
dan friesen
Single entendres are tough sometimes.
Yeah, it's tough.
jordan holmes
Floated right under my head.
dan friesen
I think that Ezra is not dealing with the fact that he was harassing this man.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he took a picture of him probably because he was scared.
Sure.
I would be maybe in that situation too.
Look, I got no sympathy for Larry Fink, whatever.
He's a billionaire.
Fuck it.
But I do think as a human...
It makes sense to take a picture of someone who is stalking you.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Just in case.
jordan holmes
Hey, what are you going to do?
I mean, you know, he's got a bodyguard team.
He'll probably be fine over Ezra.
dan friesen
I think so, but Ezra shouldn't take that as some kind of giant threat.
jordan holmes
No, no, definitely not.
dan friesen
Anyway, Davos, they've got oligarchs there, and they don't really care.
There's no big deal.
ezra levant
What's so interesting is...
They move a little bit with the winds.
Like, they invited Javier Millet.
They invited Donald Trump.
So maybe in some ways they say, well, look, at the end of the day, we're about ideology, but we all like to get super rich.
So let's hang out with the cool kids, even if we disagree with them.
It'll be interesting to me to see, and this is one of the questions I put to Larry Fink, is will he abandon his DEI and ESG rules?
You know how BlackRock operates.
It invests in...
I checked it out, and last statistics I can find, BlackRock has $83 billion worth of shares in Alphabet, the parent company of Google and YouTube.
So what BlackRock does is it buys a company, invests at a massive scale, but then it says to the company it invested in...
As your large shareholder, we demand that you have these DEI policies.
We want you to be woke on transgenderism, on global warming, etc.
So these companies are sort of injected right in their bloodstream with these woke Marxist ideas.
So they look like billionaires, but they act like Antifa, and BlackRock is the contagion.
Ah!
dan friesen
See, that's an interesting construction, and I would love to see some kind of proof for this conspiracy that Ezra's promoting.
According to him, BlackRock comes in and invests in a company, and then they demand that the company be woke, or else they'll lose the investment that BlackRock put in.
Here's what I need for him to present for me to even begin to take this seriously.
I would need to see internal demands from BlackRock to these companies that they go woke, and Ezra repeating DEI and ESG over and over again, that's not going to be enough.
I need something that demonstrates that the investment and, quote, going woke are connected.
To make that piece of the argument stronger, I would need to see examples of companies who were not necessarily woke, who took in BlackRock money and then went woke.
It shouldn't be too difficult to make a timeline if what Ezra is saying is true, so I would welcome him to present that and show it.
When looking at this argument, you want to try and find a counterexample that might challenge the faulty premises that Ezra is working with.
According to his thinking, companies that get BlackRock investment have these demands made of them, so they become woke.
A good counterexample would be a company that he definitely doesn't think is woke at all who has BlackRock investment.
These guys all love Elon Musk so much, so just take a look at Tesla.
It turns out BlackRock manages just under 200 million shares of their stock, and if you add that amount to the amounts held by State Street and Vanguard, the total comes up to over 500 million shares.
This tends to indicate that it's possible to have BlackRock investment in a company and it not be some kind of a woke shakedown.
Without that premise in place, Ezra's argument kind of falls apart, and it's shown to mean nothing.
So, good luck, Ezra, and work with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know what?
And hey, how about this?
Disregarding the fact that everything that that man just said was fucking insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright, so now we do have this perception.
Alright, so now all these companies abandon woke.
Does that not prove that they're mercenaries who are just in it for the money anyways?
And if that's the case, if they were always mercenaries who were just in it for the money...
Then why did you think that they were ideologically bent towards it?
It was just a money-making thing.
dan friesen
If they quote-unquote abandoned Woke and BlackRock still is investing in them, then it means the ideology never really meant anything and you were all just fighting ghosts.
jordan holmes
Everybody's insane!
dan friesen
Well, these people are.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
You know, sometimes it's like, I know when you're lying about something because you want to convince people of some bullshit, but sometimes that stuff's so crazy.
I think he believes some of that.
dan friesen
I don't.
jordan holmes
No, I think he does.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
He hired Lauren Southern and Tommy Robinson.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
He's a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
He is a piece of shit.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's a sample of this idiot's amazing journalism bothering Larry Fink.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
unidentified
Who's more powerful, you or President Trump?
jordan holmes
Me.
Oh, sorry, was I not supposed to answer?
unidentified
Why do you think you're so disliked around the world?
ezra levant
Why are so many U.S. states divesting from your ESG schemes?
Why are you putting your ideology ahead of your investors with ESG, Mr. Fink?
Isn't that being disloyal to shareholders?
Putting your ideology ahead of rate of return?
Why do you think you're above accountability?
Is it because you're rich?
unidentified
I just feel like walking with him now because he's big, scary bodyguards.
avi yemini
And, I don't know, Ezra, I just want to make it clear I will not kill myself.
ezra levant
I have no suicidal thoughts either.
Mr. Fink's taking pictures of me and Avi Amini.
I think that's meant to intimidate.
It's a little weird, though.
It feels a little thin-skinned.
dan friesen
So this is all Ezra's video is.
It's just him and his buddy asking Larry Fink mean questions and him not responding.
Also, it makes total sense for Fink to take their picture, because what Ezra is doing is very much illegal in Switzerland.
Perhaps Ezra and Alex don't care about things like national sovereignty, but Switzerland has a very different understanding of freedom of speech and press than we do.
Specifically, in Switzerland, as a member of the public, you have a right to not be photographed without your consent.
You own the right to your own image, so a person taking your picture has to get permission in order to use it.
According to Swiss law, Ezra is brazenly harassing Larry Fink, and now he's illegally publishing his image without consent.
Like, there are even stipulations in Swiss law about, like, if you take a crowd shot, that's okay, but if someone sticks out in that crowd, you have to get that permission.
If you want to use it, especially in, like, a commercial setting.
No, no, no.
And it's not like Davos is in different places.
It's the name of a city.
jordan holmes
It's there.
dan friesen
So this dynamic should be crystal clear.
It's like, hey, when you're there, you can't photograph people without their permission.
jordan holmes
You know, and it feels like an evolution of the dashboard videos where they're like, I'm about to go through this checkpoint and we're going to see if they're going to respect my Fourth Amendment rights or whatever.
And then they're just yelling at the guy and he's like...
Go on through.
And that's it.
dan friesen
It's a little disappointing.
It's anticlimactic for sure.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's funny because, you know, Ezra and his buddy just badger Larry Fink for minutes on end.
And Ezra has the gall to come on the show and suggest that...
I think Larry Fink has a temper.
ezra levant
Yeah, I mean, this guy does not...
I think he's got a temper.
The fact that he abides his bodyguards is one thing, and then taking the photo is another thing.
jordan holmes
Abides his bodyguards.
ezra levant
I think this guy gets through life as a kind of bully who has never had anyone stand up to him.
I mean, I know a few billionaires, not closely, but what's so amazing is how everyone around them is so...
They're incredibly determined to say yes to the billionaire no matter what they want, to make life so easy and smooth for them.
And so there's a real risk that these billionaires only have yes-men who surround them.
alex jones
By the way, Elon, that's key again, Elon, that's why I love interviewing you, Elon has said for decades, but all the time, he tells his managers and crew...
I want you to tell me bad news.
I want you to disagree with me when you think I'm wrong.
I want to be challenged because that's the opposite of being stagnant.
But he talks about all these other corporations and government.
They only want yes-men around them and how dangerous that is.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Elon Musk fired.
Everyone agrees with him at Twitter.
They only kept dissenting voices.
jordan holmes
I mean, sometimes you just wonder if, like...
Like a hat pin through the ear all the way to the other side.
Call it a day.
That's fucking crazy.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That is fucking crazy.
dan friesen
But I think it's crazy so tactically, because the criticism of billionaires is probably pretty accurate, but they love Elon Musk, so they have to make him immune from that criticism.
It's very defensive in nature.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, I just...
I guess I'll never understand.
But this is the human race for fucking forever.
I'll never understand being like, oh, my king is better than your king.
No kings, buddy.
Kings are all bad by virtue of kinging.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
The end.
dan friesen
But what if your king is actually...
jordan holmes
Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Already done.
dan friesen
I said it in quotes.
What if he's just a really rich guy?
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
dan friesen
Who's really cool and does memes.
jordan holmes
Oligarchs are wrong.
Well, not my oligarchs.
No!
What?
What are we doing?
dan friesen
So, uh...
I have to say, I don't care about Larry Fink.
I think he deserves a fair amount of criticism.
BlackRock does have investment in way too many things.
There should be some sort of anti-trust actions that are taken market-wide.
But, I think that Ezra and his friend are little babies.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I base that on this level of complaint they make.
ezra levant
We asked him 70 questions and he had no answers.
jordan holmes
70 questions?
ezra levant
Not that we did any damage to him.
I mean, we haven't affected his wealth.
We haven't affected his power.
We just hurt his ego.
And who knows what he'll do to punish us.
But here, there's a couple minutes more, including when one of our cameramen falls on the ice and the bodyguard says, ha, karma.
As if our cameraman was doing anything immoral by filming.
I mean, imagine the mindset that anyone who asks you a question deserves pain by slipping and falling on ice, and that's karma.
You know karma as in the universe balancing itself out.
alex jones
Yeah, you report yourself saying you deserve this.
How do they know it's not as a cameraman you hired?
dan friesen
Are you fucking kidding me?
Somebody fell on the ice and the bodyguard said, that's karma, and you're taking it to a fucking radio show to complain about this.
Can you imagine the mindset that someone would have to be in?
Fuck you.
Like, the people who he endorses are people like Lauren Southern and Tommy Robinson.
Grow the fuck up if you're going to complain about someone laughing at someone who slips on ice.
Please.
jordan holmes
I have no words.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I have no words.
dan friesen
It's comical, this level of trying to police someone's reaction.
Or, what it is, is he's an instigator.
You know, as a little man to somebody who goes out and he agitates, and you want to create compelling content through that.
You want to go out and get into a fight with Larry Fink.
But guess what?
He's not responding to your stupid ass.
So you get nothing.
This video is nothing except you and your friend looking like idiots.
So you have to find something to complain about, and all you've got is the bodyguard said something kind of glib when one of your cameramen slipped on ice.
This is a zero!
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's no good.
dan friesen
You can't justify your travel expense on that?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is no good!
jordan holmes
I can't imagine not, like, debriefing after the, like, hey, how do we think we did?
And not having everybody go, a terrible job!
We did a bad, objectively, what we did was bad at what we do.
dan friesen
There was nothing electric.
We got no response.
Like, maybe we should make more personal insults next time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Something.
This is shit.
jordan holmes
And then the pitch was like, how do we save face?
The bodyguard made a joke about the guy who fell?
That's what you've got?
dan friesen
And it wasn't even that mean of a joke, but can you imagine the mindset of somebody who would do something like that?
jordan holmes
You know, okay.
dan friesen
It's just, I can't believe society has gotten to this point.
jordan holmes
Here's what I like.
Here's what I like about, and I don't like it, but here's what is at least appreciable about the new mafia system that we live within, right?
In a real mafia system, if somebody comes to the boss with shit that week...
You're fucking gone, man.
There's serious consequences.
This is the fucking mafia.
You can't come to me with that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
This, this, what is this?
What is this?
dan friesen
I think that Alex and Ezra are both yesterday's news in terms of, you know, like, the new agitation media.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So I think that, you know, Alex, he's not bringing this to the Bob Boss.
He's bringing this to the guy who might be concussed.
jordan holmes
This is not the quarterly reports that you want to give.
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
So maybe Ezra's got something else.
Maybe he's got something else.
So he's got another story that he discovered while he was over there.
alex jones
Wargaming this, what are you concerned about?
Because you're a smart guy and I'm really focused on not being too overconfident here.
ezra levant
I'm going to steal 30 seconds first and show you something.
And forgive me for delaying answering your question.
This is a energy bar that was being handed out on the streets of Davos today.
Cocoa cashew flavor has protein in it.
The word insect or bugs is nowhere on this, but this is insect protein energy bars.
And there was a man giving these out by the hundred today.
They really want you to eat the bugs.
This is not a conspiracy theory, Alex.
I couldn't believe it.
I took it And I asked the guy, where does it say bugs?
He said, oh, it's right there.
Alphatobius diaparinus in the ingredients.
That's the Latin phrase for the insect.
It's mealworms.
They ground up worms to make this.
There is no warning label at all.
This is legitimate for sale.
jordan holmes
Warning label!
ezra levant
In Europe, they really are selling bugs to be eaten.
That is not a conspiracy.
That is not a fable.
dan friesen
The conspiracy isn't supposed to be that there are some products that use insect-derived protein.
It's that the globalists want to force you to only eat the bugs by banning the sale of things like beef and chicken.
Proving that there are insect-derived energy bars being sold by companies in Europe does zero towards establishing this conspiracy.
So the company that Ezra is talking about is called Pumba, and in big letters on each bar, it says, quote, If Ezra cared at all, he would know that this is a term used to describe taking things that would often otherwise be waste and making them into nutritious foods.
That should have been his first tip-off.
The second thing he should have noticed is that in the ingredients section, things are in Swiss and French, because this is a Swiss company.
It says on the ingredients list, in bold letters, Alphatobus dipernis, followed by Insectamel, in parentheses, which translates to Insect Meal.
It says insect in the ingredients, you dipshit.
jordan holmes
Fair, that's true.
dan friesen
His complaint is that it doesn't say that there are bugs in this thing, but it's in the ingredients list, and the bar is labeled Upcycled Food.
On their website, they say, quote, Pumba's mission is to bring the best insect-based foods to people around the globe, promoting both personal well-being and environmental stewardship.
This isn't something they're hiding.
What the fuck are you doing?
This is a really good encapsulation of how pathetic this conspiracy ecosystem is.
Ezra is on to complain about how Larry Fink didn't answer his questions, and he drops this bombshell that a company in Switzerland uses alternative protein sources for its energy bar.
Who gives a shit?
Like, what?
This is a wasted trip, bro!
jordan holmes
I fully believe now in the Apollo rules for all media.
If this happens, giant cane, boom, you're gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just gone.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Everybody boos.
You're done.
dan friesen
You don't got it.
jordan holmes
You're done.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
Next act.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It should be.
That's just the general rule for all media now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Ezra is...
jordan holmes
Yoink.
Get the fuck out.
dan friesen
He's not making it.
He's getting the gong.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So Alex now has had the idea of eating bugs introduced to him.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So we gotta talk about it.
alex jones
Bug insect exoskeletons, that's what they have.
We have an endoskeleton.
jordan holmes
Nice.
alex jones
Or just bug chitin protein, highly carcinogenic, also fries your guts.
I mean, there's a reason you look at a strawberry and want it, or a piece of beef and want it, or a banana and want it.
You're meant to eat that.
You're not meant to, and there are some cultures that do it.
And in Africa, they'll eat big grubs because they don't have a lot of chitin in them.
And so they're not as toxic.
But that's Africans digging holes because they're starving and eating beetle larva.
There's the National Library of Medicine, Bugs and Food, a recipe for cancer.
dan friesen
So, if you go strictly by the, if it looks good, I'm supposed to eat it rule, I don't know why anyone would eat lobsters, mushrooms, mollusks, or all sort of things that are perfectly acceptable foods.
jordan holmes
Bugs of the sea?
dan friesen
I think Alex is just being stupid here.
However, he pulls up a headline that says, quote, bugs and food, a recipe for cancer.
And the first thing I would point out is this ends in a question mark.
This is not a statement, it is a query.
This is an article published in the journal Cell Metabolism in 2014 and based on how Alex is talking about it you would think that this is about how having a diet that includes bugs will lead to an increase in your risk of cancer.
jordan holmes
It would have to be.
dan friesen
However, if you read the article, it's about something else altogether.
The paper involves cancer risk in mice and questions some conventional understandings about obesity and cancer.
Specifically, the understanding at the time that was being examined was that when mice have a high fat diet, they develop obesity and inflammation, which then leads to cancer.
However, the analysis these researchers came to was that the development of cancer actually preceded the obesity and inflammation in the mice that were fed a high fat diet.
So there must be another contributing factor.
They posit that this other factor is microbial makeup inside the mouse's guts.
These bacteria and microbes are the.
Right, right, right, right, right.
Alex has no idea what information he's presenting to the audience, and he doesn't care.
That headline appears to make the point that he's trying to make, so it's presented fraudulently in order to make that point.
unidentified
Gong.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, so eventually we're all going to eat the bugs.
Let's just move on from that.
We're all going to get there.
How do you sell it?
You know, like when you're Alex and you've already invested all this stuff, he finally has a bug food sponsor.
How is he going to start selling it?
dan friesen
The same way you sell Elon.
These are the good bugs.
No chitin.
Whatever.
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
These are the good bugs?
dan friesen
Yeah.
These are the bugs that look good.
jordan holmes
They look like food.
They look like food.
Man, it shouldn't be that easy.
It shouldn't be that easy, Dan.
dan friesen
It will be a slam dunk.
jordan holmes
Make it not that easy.
dan friesen
We have gathered the best scientists in the world.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
You've spent 20 years!
dan friesen
We've perfected the methods of chitin removal.
jordan holmes
But you said that it was...
dan friesen
Yeah, but this is the only good one.
You know how iodine's the good halogen?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
As opposed to fluoride.
You know that old sales pitch?
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
This is the good bug.
jordan holmes
We're just never gonna get free.
dan friesen
Hashtag the good bug.
jordan holmes
No!
Don't hashtag it!
You son of a bitch!
Now it's true!
dan friesen
It's not that far off, I'm sure.
jordan holmes
You know you're probably right.
dan friesen
If the opportunity were to arise, I'm sure, that it would be manageable for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I bet.
dan friesen
So he reads a couple headlines here about bugs.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Immune response to eating chitin linked to better health.
Oh, look.
Oh, your body has seen it, and they've got their spin out there, too.
dan friesen
Huh?
jordan holmes
What spin?
alex jones
So, bugs feeding the world.
12 companies selling edible insects.
I wonder who funds them.
dan friesen
So the first thing Alex did there was read a headline that says the opposite of what he's saying.
And then his only rebuttal is, ah, they got their spin.
jordan holmes
I guess so.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
And then there's a telling moment there for Alex that I think really should inject concern among his fans.
He sees this article, the second headline that he's reading, is from the NewYorkFoodPolicy.org website.
And he mutters, I wonder who funds them.
Why doesn't he know?
He's supposed to work 20 hours a day on this shit, and he's definitely not just cold reading headlines and riffing on them.
If he cares at all, he should know who the sources are for the things that he's reporting.
The New York Food Policy Center is run by Hunter College.
There's tons of information about them that's easily available if Alex cares, but he doesn't.
If he looked into it, that would require work, and the information he'd find wouldn't really be that useful for him.
He gets so much more mileage off just making vague insinuations like, I wonder who funds them, than he ever could from doing his job.
Because now, in your head, Alex wonders who funds them.
He must know something.
Fuck the New York Food Policy Center or whatever the fuck.
They're globalists!
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
It's probably Schwab.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to be able to get past that it's out of Hunter College.
dan friesen
Hunter College.
jordan holmes
That's going to fuck with my head.
dan friesen
Hunter Gatherer College.
jordan holmes
I mean, I couldn't stop being like, don't make a Gatherer College joke.
Don't make a Gatherer College joke.
I can't not.
It's in my head.
Is it nominative determinism or is it just fucking coincidence?
dan friesen
I think you should have just let it fly.
jordan holmes
I have to get to the bottom of it.
Was somebody in the past fucking with us?
dan friesen
No, I think it's named after a person, I would assume.
jordan holmes
Oh, that person's probably fucking with us.
I bet they never even hunted.
dan friesen
Well, one of their ancestors must have, right?
That's how you get the name.
That's what I've been told.
jordan holmes
That's what I would assume, but now you don't know!
dan friesen
I don't.
I don't know.
So Alex is talking a little bit about the idea of Trump getting rid of birthright citizenship.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's all for it.
Shocking.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
This just happened in the last hour.
Judge says he will block Trump's blatantly unconstitutional executive order that aims to end birthright citizenship.
Anchor babies.
And if you read the Constitution, it's a fact that it's natural born means your parents are either legally here or citizens.
You can't get off an airplane eight months pregnant and then wait in a hotel for a month or some leftist flop house.
Well, they all sign you up for, you know, welfare and the rest of it.
And then you go into the hospital and we pay for your baby.
And then now mommy can stay and daddy can stay.
And then the chain migration, the rest of your family comes in.
This is a weapon of replacement migration.
And Trump is shutting it down.
dan friesen
So this, this to me is just, I mean, there's just hate.
It's not, it can't possibly be as big of a deal as.
Like, how many people are doing that?
How many people are coming in in the eighth month?
jordan holmes
I swear I...
dan friesen
And people, leftists, funding all this.
jordan holmes
No, I remember eight years ago, I remember reading something specifically about this whole concept and just being like, oh, what we found is that none of that happens, but there are fucking, like, ten Russian people who've done it in the past hundred years, and you're like...
That's not even a thing!
dan friesen
I don't think it's as minor as that.
As I recall from looking into it, it is something that happens, but it happens on such a small level to be, like, what you're really doing is hurting people.
You gain much more kind of by just being like, alright, some people are going to exploit whatever, who cares?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, it is so much like if you can get people focused on a not-a-real problem, then you can avoid actually having to deal with any real problems.
dan friesen
Yeah, or make the underlying problem worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex, I will say, I gotta give it up to him.
You know, like, sometimes you just have to.
jordan holmes
Like the Somali pirates?
dan friesen
He has criticisms of ICE.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I bet they're totally genuine and probably not about how they're not violent enough.
Well, shit.
alex jones
And I want to raise this now without saying any names because I've seen a bunch of people doing it without even looking.
It's all over the place.
Attacking Tom Homan, the new border czar, and attacking Trump when Tom Homan goes on TV and says, we're going to target the worst people first.
And then taking that, meaning they're not going to get everybody.
You better get the worst people first.
I mean, if you're in a small town and there's six, seven cops on duty at midnight and a bunch of calls come in, somebody is shooting up the local country dance bar and another call comes in of a domestic dispute.
And another call comes in about a car wreck.
And then what do the cops do?
The police station, whoever's on duty and charge, calls out and says, respond to that first.
dan friesen
So you might make a joke at some point of like, yeah, his criticism would be that they're not deporting enough people.
And that kind of is, you know.
jordan holmes
Exactly what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, Alex is defensive about other people having that complaint.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's saying, they're reporting plenty.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess...
alex jones
We'll get to everybody?
jordan holmes
I guess, you know, because a reasonable conversation for them would have to be something along the lines of like...
If you really want that, then we have to devote all of the budget to hiring new ICE people.
dan friesen
I think they'd be fine about it.
jordan holmes
Hiring more lawyers, more everybody, more all of this shit.
Forever.
It's a physically impossible thing to do.
You just want to do it because it's racist.
So just be like, hey guys.
We're being racist enough, okay?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's sort of Alex's point.
jordan holmes
Like, what is happening?
dan friesen
We have to prioritize with the way that we exert our racism.
jordan holmes
We all want serial killers out of here, obviously.
But, come on, what, do you want to just go after everybody?
Yes!
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
That's what you told us!
dan friesen
So Alex is trying to justify the fact that there are, you know, ICE, they're taking people.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Some non-criminals.
It's already happening.
And so Alex is trying to justify some of that by distracting with another story.
alex jones
Here's another video.
Earlier today, NBC crews filmed multiple federal agents.
Rounding people up from apartments in Boston, and we already showed some of that.
And they've got it in Los Angeles.
They've got it in Houston.
Trump deportation plan begins to take shape as immigrant communities face fear and uncertainty.
Oh, really?
Look at this photo.
At the U.S.-Mexico border, migrants experience the reality of Trump's first few days, and they're crying, and it's a woman.
Yeah.
Amos International says 80-plus percent of the women and girls that come across that border have been raped on the other side, not here, by the smugglers.
jordan holmes
So send them back?
alex jones
It's all, oh, look, she got told to come up here, and now she just can't waltz in and have her baby and have it all paid for, be a Democrat, live on welfare, and fly her foreign flag.
No.
What about this guy?
Oh, look, she's crying.
Poor thing.
What about Border Patrol agent was killed in Vermont and he worked at the Pentagon during 9-11 AP?
U.S. Border Patrol agent was killed in Vermont during a traffic stop near the Canadian border, was a military veteran who worked security duty at the Pentagon during 7-11.
Notice, the article's not about how an illegal alien with prior violent convictions that had been ordered deported but wasn't deported by the Biden system because they would just bureaucratically block it.
They don't even get into his...
Name or any of it until you dig deeper because they want to make it all about he just got killed.
I mean, how long do I got to read here until I find out this guy did this?
dan friesen
Keep skimming.
You'll figure it out eventually.
Cold reading this.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
So you see here Alex trying to make the audience not feel bad for a person being caught up in an ICE raid by distracting them with a story about how this Border Patrol agent was shot in Vermont.
Alex knows nothing about that story, and he's just adding in some details in order to make it fit its narrative, like the whole storyline about how this person who shot the Border Patrol agent was an undocumented immigrant with a prior violent conviction that was supposed to be deported, but that was stopped by Biden.
All of that is from Alex's imagination.
As it stands now, they've not said who actually shot that agent, which brings up the kind of sad possibility that he might have been shot by friendly fire during the standoff.
What we do know is that it's pretty unlikely that the man who's from Germany, Felix Backholt, was the one who shot him, because he was in the process of pulling a weapon when he was shot and killed.
The police and Theresa Youngblood, the woman from Washington, were the ones who got off shots.
As far as I can tell, Bockholt doesn't have a history of violent convictions and wasn't ordered deported.
He came from Germany to Canada to attend university in 2015 and then came to the United States and overstayed a visa.
This story is unfolding in a very crazy way, but I don't think it works in any way that Alex needs it to.
At this point, the details are kind of sketchy, but it looks like it's possible that this killing of this Border Patrol agent could be connected to some other murders.
There's also some insinuations that the people who carried out the shooting might have been trans and vegan, so I would expect this to pivot from being an immigration narrative into being an anti-LGBTQ one, if Alex continues with it at all.
It has all the makings of a completely insane story, but Alex knows nothing about any of the details and doesn't care.
Doesn't care to learn who gives a shit.
alex jones
No, no.
dan friesen
It's a border patrol agent who was shot, so I can use that to distract from your feelings of genuine empathy that you should have for seeing these people mistreated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, here's my new pitch, alright?
We don't need to outlaw guns.
What we need to do is make it mandatory to always be wearing hockey gloves.
All right?
So now we're all wearing hockey gloves, and that means that whenever Alex says something like that, I can just drop my hockey gloves, and we are in a fight.
You know what I'm saying?
We're in a hockey-style fight.
Everybody knows what the signals are.
We've got a social kind of thing going on.
And because you're wearing the hockey gloves, can't mess with a gun.
dan friesen
Here's a couple issues.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
One.
Can we make them those finger things where you can use a phone with a hockey glove?
Like, can you still use a touch screen?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that is a good question.
No, because I also don't want people being on their phones while they're crossing the crosswalk.
dan friesen
Okay, second pitch.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is kind of just going back to slapping someone with a glove times.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because all you're actually wanting is someone to, like, there's an indication that it's go time.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, we're all on board here.
dan friesen
We all understand the process.
Maybe we just slap with a glove as opposed to everyone has to wear hockey gloves all the time.
jordan holmes
It's not American.
It's not American to slap with a glove.
Hockey is close enough.
Hockey is close enough.
It's better than the alternative.
dan friesen
I think that it would be tough to do a lot of things like drive or cook.
Or sleep with hockey gloves on?
jordan holmes
We would have to fundamentally restructure society, but I think that would be a far cheaper option than allowing guns to continue, I guess.
dan friesen
I feel like we should just limit the availability of guns and have people slap each other with gloves to indicate that it's on.
jordan holmes
As far as compromise is concerned, I'm with you.
dan friesen
Okay.
So Alex is in favor of Trump and another action that he did, which is declaring that the cartels in Mexico are...
Terrorist gangs, terrorist groups.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
That's one stack.
Oh, I'm sorry.
There was two stacks in that.
I'm sorry.
Now you're seeing how I'm trying to move quicker.
It's a lot.
Imagine getting ready to cover this.
That takes a lot of time, too.
Here's the New York Times.
When I first saw this headline, it was just a screenshot on X. I said, is that fake?
And I went and clicked, and no, it wasn't, of course.
Almost as silly as the headline in 1906, it'll take a million years for men to fly, and a week later the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk documented it.
It happened before.
How labeling cartels terrorists could hurt the U.S. economy.
And I'm like, is that real?
Yeah, here it is.
How labeling cartels terrorists, I mean, if anybody's terrorist, it's them, could hurt the U.S. economy.
And have you seen the carnage, the death, the fentanyl, the stuff they do?
And you read it, and it's like a joke.
And then they give their excuses.
It doesn't even...
It's like humanizes the cartels.
And now the Mexican pesos dropping and all the rest of it because he runs that country.
Trump-designated cartels, terror groups, could hurt the U.S. economy, New York Times warns.
Mexico-based New York Times reporter argues Trump order could have a major impact on U.S.-Mexico given their deep economic interdependence to their admitting Mexico runs off dry.
Is that what they were admitting?
Why Trump's designation of drug cartels is terrorist alarms in Mexico, Washington Post.
Here's Trump's executive order.
order on it, designating cartels, other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations, as specifically designated global terrorists.
unidentified
Wow.
Thank you.
alex jones
Wow.
All right.
Let's keep going.
dan friesen
So I'm not interested in supporting or defending drug cartels, but I do think that Alex's position is entirely inconsistent with his previously stated beliefs, and pretending that people oppose Trump labeling cartels as international terror groups because they want to defend the cartels is a cowardly dodge for him to make.
There are a number of issues here and a compelling reason why no other president has ever made a move like this.
The first is that the mainstream economy of Mexico is deeply penetrated by the cartels, in a way that a lot of normal businesses are used as fronts to launder money.
Because this is the case, most analysts believe that it would be almost impossible to discern which businesses are cartel-connected and which are not, so when you label these cartels as international terrorist groups, it could now be considered materially supporting a terrorist group if you invest in the wrong company in Mexico.
You introduce a lot of legal issues, and one of the downstream results is that people just stop taking the risk of investing in any businesses in Mexico in fear that they might unknowingly be supporting terrorism.
The second is that the United States has a terrible track record of dealing with terrorist groups.
The last 20 years has been marked by us calling something a terrorist group and then using that as a justification to bomb people.
Labeling the cartels as international terrorist groups creates a fear that this is going to lead to more of that.
Trump could demand that they be addressed militarily, and if Mexico's response isn't satisfactory, it's easy to imagine him accusing them of harboring terrorists and we need to go in and take care of it ourselves.
This could easily be seen, uh, you can see how...
Turn into justification for needing to send boots on the ground to fight the terrorists.
Alex should know this.
He's been around the whole Iraq war period.
He knows this shit.
It's impossible he doesn't understand that.
This move is counterproductive, which is what people oppose in it.
That's when they say they oppose this kind of declaration.
That's what they mean.
Alex is just incapable of conversations about news that go any deeper than a headline.
And so this is...
This is the kind of coverage you get.
It's so shallow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm getting the feeling like maybe we should do a moratorium on those headlines and just replace it with being near United States geographically alarms Mexico.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like, don't bother with blank alarms Mexico.
Just us being near them.
dan friesen
Alarming.
Proximity unsettling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, justifiably so.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex does some more coverage, gets some nice hitting all the news.
alex jones
Sure.
This is really nice right here.
I like this a lot.
He didn't just pull 52 of the neocon and globalist leftist that worked against him and didn't just block the Hunter Biden stuff, but they ran a crossfire hurricane, all of it, and a lot of them are neocons.
A lot of the top ones are.
So John Bolton lost his security clearance.
And now Pompeo.
Oh, that guy's a snake in the grass.
Reuters.
Trump revoked security protection.
Yeah, they're also pulling their security.
You don't get that.
Like, Fauci needs to have his pulled.
He was getting it illegally.
15 agents, 24 hours a day.
I think it was like, it was some giant number.
It was like in the tens of millions they spend on Fauci alone.
Trump revokes security protection for Pompeo and a former aide.
Good.
Pure gold.
John Brennan bellyaching about his security clearance being pulled over laptop intel letter.
Yeah.
Pompeo is a big leaker.
He's a bad man.
Bad.
Bad man.
Here's some more border news.
dan friesen
So John Brennan's security clearance was revoked in 2018.
Alex adding that in with these headlines is a little bit confusing.
I imagine he just forgot that that happened in Trump's first term.
Alex is also mixing up his stories.
John Bolton had his security clearance revoked, but Mike Pompeo had his security detail pulled.
This is a concern because there have been rumblings for years that Iran very much wants to assassinate Mike Pompeo because he played a role in the killing of Qasem Soleimani.
So without that security detail, that task would be a lot easier.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's the issue that people are talking about.
But Alex seems to think that it was that he got his security clearance pulled.
He's adjusting mid-cold reading these headlines.
So he was going to take calls on this show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he decides that he's not going to.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And I think that the reason that he gives is revealing.
alex jones
And I said I'd take calls, but I also have a total commitment because I really love your calls.
unidentified
Do you?
alex jones
You take us different directions.
Wild card.
I just have to cover all this, so I won't take calls.
I'm going to do some extra nighttime shows that are calls.
I'm going to set that up today.
I'll tell you soon.
And I'm going to do not just a Sunday show.
I'll do a Saturday show, too, and take calls.
And we do the next spaces, too, because I really want to hear from you.
It's just that we take this show, and we take each one of these things I cover, and we put out 30, 40 clips, as you know.
And on average, they're getting like 5 million views apiece.
And it's moving the needle.
So it's exhausting to do this much news, but it hurts them.
Quite frankly, I find it more interesting and have fun just hearing from you.
I mean, I'm just a regular guy.
Sitting up here talking by yourself is satisfying to get the bad guys.
So it's satisfying, but it's also...
It's beyond exhausting.
You know what it's like.
jordan holmes
Do we?
alex jones
It's a responsibility to really be dynamic and accurate.
And I can kind of just, you know...
Respond to the call.
Give them an answer that takes some thought the best I can.
But it's more interesting and stimulating.
I'm kind of in a jail cell in here just talking to myself.
But it doesn't matter.
I'm going to go to break and we're going to come back.
I forgot to plug this hour.
I'm the problem around here.
I agree.
Incredible products.
We're blowing the globalist up.
If you want to keep winning, support us.
Big sale going right now.
A lot of new products in the store.
dan friesen
So Alex hasn't gotten deep into any of the new subjects that he's touched on on the show, but if you pay attention to what he's saying, this makes total sense.
He's not going to take calls because he needs to spend more time on the show covering subjects that his staff can then cut into clips that they can use as clickbait on Twitter.
That's moving the needle as much as he sees big...
this is a smart thing for him to maximize.
He has more fun and would rather take calls, maybe, but the way he believes he can make the most money is to make clickbait bullshit that flies around on Twitter.
It's a terrible strategy, and I'm therefore glad that Alex thinks it's a good strategy.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
He can run with that.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
That's just...
That's dark thoughts about your own...
Existence.
This is what we are...
dan friesen
He's in a jail cell talking to himself.
jordan holmes
Not even questioning, like, should we do this?
Or, like, should we purposefully eschew this?
Because it is a sign of a decaying...
Nah, fuck it.
Let's go.
dan friesen
Well, and I think that there's something really sad to think about that is Alex's metrics for his own, like...
His brilliance and his own relevance and all of this is just tied to Twitter views.
If something should happen and Elon decides you're not in my good graces anymore and bans Alex from Twitter, he's spent so much time building up the hundreds of millions of views that they're getting on there.
jordan holmes
Now all that goes away.
dan friesen
His identity is dependent on Musk's grace.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
That's what you think.
Okay, so when you give a single person, usually megalomaniacal, an absurd amount of power over you, then whenever they whimsically change their mind, as they are known to do, there are lots of protections.
Oh, no, there aren't.
There's no protections at all.
dan friesen
No, but Alex could then just start lying about how many more radio stations he's on or something.
He'd find a way to self-soothe.
jordan holmes
Running away from reality is very soothing.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's dangerous.
So Alex is going to make some of those.
Clips.
He's going to cover the news so he can get into the clips.
But he's not.
He's actually going to do it later.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
alex jones
We're not playing around with the globalists, as I've told them.
And they know that.
They can smell defeat in the spirit of this transmission.
And guess what?
unidentified
what they feared has now come true.
alex jones
She's got the books to kill.
unidentified
She's got the books.
alex jones
Larry Fink.
All of you.
unidentified
You want a war?
alex jones
You got one, don't you?
We're never going to stop.
All right.
Plus, radio stations don't carry this segment, so I'm having a little fun here because I want everybody to hear what I'm going to be covering.
I am locked.
I am loaded.
I am going to explosively, with precision, kick all of this.
James O 'Keefe's had another stunning coup.
Senate confirms John Ratcliffe, Trump's CIA director.
We got the big news on J6.
We got the information coming out about what's really going on with this Stargate AI mRNA stuff.
And we have got a lot more on top of that.
I'm going to get into what to expect from Trump's visit to California tomorrow.
And I'm not laughing about the carnage.
That's terrible.
Trump's got the mushroom in Super Mario Bros.
right now.
dan friesen
So nothing says tip of the spear quite like openly and constantly acknowledging that you don't even really give a shit about the first six minutes of every hour because it doesn't go out on the tiny number of radio stations that air your show.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
400 my ass.
Definitely the most effective use of that time is getting hyped up about all the news that you're going to cover later.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
John Ratcliffe is a terrible choice for the CIA, seeing as he was a Bush-era anti-terrorism chief in the Department of Justice and ran a law firm with John Ashcroft.
Since then, he's shown a lot of loyalty to Trump, so Alex is cool with it.
Who cares?
Incidentally, Alex can laugh all he wants here, but Trump's actions in California were almost a huge disaster.
He sent the Army Corps of Engineers to open up dams to increase the flow of water, which local authorities said would have caused severe flooding.
A Politico article says, quote, Local officials had to talk the Army Corps of Engineers down.
Victor Hernandez, a water manager in the area, said he'd not seen anything like it in 25 years on the job and that it was, quote, The release of that much water that quickly would have the risk of damaging the channels, of causing flooding of farmland and communities nearby, and creating shortages of water meant for irrigation later.
This will have no effect on firefighting ability, has potentially disastrous consequences, and is at best kind of a waste.
The point of doing something like this is the exercise of power.
That is it.
And Alex celebrates that.
That's why he's laughing.
That's what he's interested in.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Bummer.
jordan holmes
No arguments.
dan friesen
But what do you think about the mushroom?
unidentified
Trump's got the mushroom.
jordan holmes
I think he means the star.
That's what I think.
I think he means that Trump has the star.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
Hold on.
Hold on to that thought.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
Trump's got the mushroom in Super Mario Brothers right now.
And he's running over bad guys.
And if that arrogant, snot-nosed Patrick Bateman thinks he's got problems now, Trump is going to flame-throw him.
He's going to melt.
Like the witch in Wizard of Oz.
jordan holmes
What in God's name is he doing here?
dan friesen
So I think you're right that he does think it's the star because he says he can run over bad guys.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
Which you need the star for.
You still have to jump on them if you're...
The mushroom.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then he says flamethrow.
jordan holmes
Right, like the fire flower.
dan friesen
You need the mushroom.
unidentified
But then he says like the witch of the Wizard of Oz who died because of water!
dan friesen
Right, so then you would need that backpack that Professor E. Gadd made in Sunshine.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Mario Sunshine.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna shit.
dan friesen
I think that Alex doesn't know anything about Mario.
jordan holmes
It's very frustrating.
dan friesen
Yeah, that really bothered me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't bring up Mario if you don't know the power-ups.
jordan holmes
I mean, not even that.
Just don't bring up Mario if you don't know the power-ups and then bring up one that is in active opposition to then the reference to the Wizard of Oz that you...
He's misunderstood 18 different references in the same sentence.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's very frustrating.
dan friesen
And we don't even need to bring in Spring Mario.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Or Cat Mario.
jordan holmes
What if we started talking about the status effects from Paper Mario?
We don't even want to deal with this.
dan friesen
Tanuki suits?
jordan holmes
You don't want to get poisoned.
dan friesen
Nope.
So, you remember a little bit ago?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There was a really strong argument that Alex was having that presidents have immunity.
Because if you don't...
Then once you get out of power, why would anything not turn into a witch hunt?
That's why Trump couldn't be prosecuted before.
jordan holmes
Makes perfect sense to me.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Also get the clip ready of Trump on Hannity talking about, isn't it interesting, Biden pardoned everybody that was doing stuff for him for his crimes but didn't pardon himself.
Obviously talking about going after him because he's no longer the president and doesn't have immunity.
Has to be when you're president.
Show.
dan friesen
Oh, that's a different argument than you made before.
jordan holmes
That is a very different argument.
dan friesen
That's convenient.
jordan holmes
That is very convenient.
dan friesen
What a dipshit.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
That's just, I mean, it's just infuriating.
jordan holmes
You know, I wonder if maybe we just shouldn't have an automatic trial at the end of a presidency.
dan friesen
That's an interesting option.
jordan holmes
Just an automatic one.
Like an exit interview kind of thing.
Yeah, the fear is going to be it's used for partisan purposes.
Just make it a nonpartisan thing.
You have to have a trial at the end of your presidency.
dan friesen
Sort of like defending your life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Why bother with being like, oh, this guy says you're evil.
I haven't seen a president in my lifetime that's gotten out of office that shouldn't be on trial at the very least.
Right.
dan friesen
That's fair, and I think it would be interesting and maybe healing for a country.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
I think it would be a little bit humiliating, too, but whatever.
jordan holmes
Humiliating to the president would not be a bad idea either.
dan friesen
But also to the public.
And then it's like, this is what your leader has done over the last four years.
jordan holmes
I think we could stand to have some humiliation.
dan friesen
Maybe.
The thing that I think I want to put my finger on and point at here is Alex is saying that you don't have that immunity when you're out of office.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's exactly the opposite of what he was arguing when Trump wasn't in office.
And the reason that I think that this is important is don't take liar's word.
He was lying before.
Don't pretend that he means this.
This argument will change when it's convenient.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think we need about 16 or 17 more headlines about how Alex is finally sorry for defaming people.
dan friesen
We've got a thousand episodes of him illustrating he's a shithead.
jordan holmes
There's just no way of knowing.
I'm assuming we'll see more.
dan friesen
So we've got one last clip here because Alex is covering more of the big Trump names.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
We're not going into a new dark age.
We're not going to eat the bugs.
And now?
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
alex jones
He just signed the executive order ordering all of the remaining JFK files to be released.
Previously, they slow-rolled it.
Trump is ordering them released today.
If they aren't, he'll send in the federal marshals.
Trump orders the release of the final JFK assassination documents.
And just...
A week and a half ago, we aired the exclusive audio from 1971 of the former head of the DNC and LBJ's business manager and Billy Saul Estes talking about LBJ ordering the murder of JFK.
Talk about smoking gun.
That interview got over 100 million viewers and listeners on Real Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Smoking gun.
jordan holmes
So that means it's true.
dan friesen
Yep.
Now, Billy Saul Estes has been making these kinds of claims for the last 40 years.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Someone claiming to be his grandson released a tape of him talking about it, but that doesn't really add to the conversation about the theory that LBJ killed JFK.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just a recording of someone talking shit in a way that they have publicly talked shit a bunch of times.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
As for the declassifying of JFK files, that's a real dud.
Trump probably should do it, because until someone does, it'll hang over everyone's head as some kind of weird conspiracy MacGuffin, but it's super unlikely that there's anything left to declassify that means anything.
Most stuff has already been declassified, and people who study this subject will generally tell you that the remaining classified material is mostly only still classified because it contains sensitive personal information.
This is an action Trump can take to really excite the base, but they'll quickly lose focus from the fact that the declassified documents don't really reveal anything they hope they will, and they'll move along and just be like, Trump told us all the truth about JFK.
What truth?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but here's what would be fun, because this is the way he made it sound.
If we don't do this, I'm going to send in the federal marshals.
So, in this scenario, they decide not to do it.
And then federal marshals have to go.
Like, does that mean that there's some sort of Knights Templar group within this classification who's like, we have to protect the JFK documents with our lives, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If the federal marshals come get you, burn it to them.
Like, what?
What is happening?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a self-destruct failsafe.
jordan holmes
Is that what's going on?
In what world does sending in the federal marshals improve things?
dan friesen
Well, because that's how serious these secrets are.
alex jones
It doesn't make any sense.
jordan holmes
Even if they are secrets that are serious, the people who work there would have to go rogue on their own or be part of a secret society.
dan friesen
Right.
Right?
Presumably.
Because everybody who would be involved in any of the stuff that's in the documents is dead.
jordan holmes
They're dead, yes.
So these are like, they're sentenced with tattoos of crosses on their chest.
See, now that's fun.
dan friesen
It is fun.
jordan holmes
That's fun.
unidentified
That's more fun.
dan friesen
It's much more fun than realizing that, like, there's personal information that people just...
jordan holmes
Oh, it's just, like, her hair color.
dan friesen
Medical records or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are we doing?
Why are we doing this?
I think, yeah, let's make everything...
This is what we need to do.
We need to create a way to make them all be on Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and not actually governing the country.
You know, like...
We should have scavenger hunts set up for all of these people.
Like Trump, oh, we gotta go get this.
Yeah, and go get it.
Go get the national treasure, boy.
Go get it, you know?
dan friesen
Or we could invite Alex to an escape room that isn't an escape room.
jordan holmes
And then just leave him in a prison cell screaming to himself.
It would be no different from what he is now.
That's what he said.
dan friesen
You know what?
Honestly, I was thinking about this just because I said it.
You know, you invite him to an escape room that's like a trap.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But you wouldn't actually have to.
He'd never make it out of an escape room.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Unnecessary.
dan friesen
He could not possibly focus.
jordan holmes
Well, you would have to reinforce things.
dan friesen
Oh, so he can't just punch through a wall?
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah.
You would have to either enforce the rules so heavily that you're forced back into the escape room if you just punch through it.
In which case, it would still be a prison.
dan friesen
Shop collar of some sort might work.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that might be good.
dan friesen
Thick neck, though.
jordan holmes
Losing weight, though.
dan friesen
Head trauma, though.
jordan holmes
This is a good conversation.
I am enjoying it.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll check in on where Alex is at with Trump's new rule, his reign.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
alex jones
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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