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#999: January 16, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan ruminate on having done 1000 episodes of a podcast, then check in to see Alex interview the potential future president of Romania. Celine's charity drive

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a
alex jones
10:03
d
dan friesen
26:03
j
jordan holmes
16:55
Appearances
c
calin georgescu
01:48
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot tonight, bud?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is tennis!
unidentified
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
The Australian Open.
Second week of the Australian Open beginning.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Very exciting.
dan friesen
Second week.
jordan holmes
Second week.
dan friesen
How'd the first go?
jordan holmes
The first went rough for a lot of people.
dan friesen
Ruffa.
jordan holmes
Ruffa.
Yeah, rough for a lot of people.
Two American teenagers.
Two American teenagers are in the second week.
That's crazy.
dan friesen
That is.
jordan holmes
It's legitimately crazy.
dan friesen
Is one of them Alcaraz?
jordan holmes
No, Alcaraz is Spanish.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
These kids aren't even supposed to, they're like way ahead of schedule.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
People have been talking about them.
dan friesen
When we say teenagers, we mean like 18, 19?
jordan holmes
Yeah, 18, well, I mean, well, the end of, yeah, the era of.
dan friesen
It's not like a 13, 14. No, no, no, we're not there yet.
That would be wild.
jordan holmes
We're not there yet.
Although Coco Goff was like 14 whenever she broke into the tour.
dan friesen
She's incredible.
That wouldn't be unbelievable to me, but it would also be surprising.
jordan holmes
It would be crazy.
But yeah, so these cats, they're on the up-and-comers list.
People are like, hey, three years from now, these kids in their early 20s, they fell out, they get some power behind them, they're going to play well.
This one kid...
Five-set match beat Medvedev.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Five sets.
dan friesen
Wait, the Prime Minister of Russia?
jordan holmes
Almost.
He'll be there someday, hopefully.
The 80s are coming back, baby.
Yeah, but it went to like four in the morning there, so I got to watch a lot of it in the United States, and it was crazy.
It was crazy to see that happening, because Medvedev is the kind of guy who wins those matches on account of he's the octopus.
He's just got long limbs.
dan friesen
Sure, and when it goes on for a really long time, you probably favor experience.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You know, like someone who knows how to stave a little bit in the tank for when you need it.
jordan holmes
And he's done it before, too.
Plenty of times.
He's got that, and his style is like, I'm just going to get it back, buddy.
So a lot of those guys, they tire themselves out.
They're trying to hit the ball through him, and he's the octopus.
So he's just long, he gangles, and the ball just lands in the goddamn court every time.
Makes you angry.
All right.
This kid, 18 years old.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Beat him.
Crazy.
dan friesen
He beat the octopus.
jordan holmes
Beat the octopus.
dan friesen
What's his animal nickname?
Does he have one?
jordan holmes
No, his name's Lerner TN.
He's too young.
He's too young for a nickname yet.
They just call him Lerner TN.
dan friesen
The Lerner.
jordan holmes
They've tried a lot of headlines.
dan friesen
The school band.
jordan holmes
Oh, Lerner teaches Medvedev.
It's not good.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
I see him posing with a ruler.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or making a ruler into a tennis racket.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'll be fun.
I like that.
Nice little Esquire cover.
dan friesen
You know what is very close to a tennis court?
Chalkboard.
Very close.
jordan holmes
I mean, in what fact?
Just because there's...
dan friesen
I mean, it's not chocolate.
jordan holmes
Well, yes, they are green.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fair?
dan friesen
Not all chalkboards are green, though.
That's fair.
jordan holmes
I think of black when I think of chalkboards.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess that's true.
jordan holmes
But you're right.
There are green chalkboards.
dan friesen
There are some of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's tons of them.
Especially in the 70s, whenever they thought green was a cool color.
dan friesen
Sure.
And it still is.
Green's still cool.
jordan holmes
Green's still a cool color.
dan friesen
I'm insistent on that.
jordan holmes
Of the colors.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
One of the cooler ones.
dan friesen
It's up there.
jordan holmes
How about you?
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
So I have two things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
First is checking in on the eating stuff.
Yes.
I have, every now and again, I do a little bit of night eating.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I know that your wife is also someone who engages in this kind of behavior.
jordan holmes
Staunch night eater.
dan friesen
Yeah, and sometimes it's a little hazy.
Sometimes I have vague memories of something that I got up in the middle of the night and ate.
And this is one of them.
It was something, a candy that someone sent.
It was in a bag of mixed stuff.
So it was like a bunch of different gummy-ish type of things.
And this, I vaguely remember as a circus peanut kind of thing, but it was a banana.
And I've never experienced circus peanut.
But something not circus peanut.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So it was the consistency and the, like...
dan friesen
I think so.
Either that or I dreamed it.
jordan holmes
I've never...
Yeah, you're right.
The circus penis tastes like circus penis.
dan friesen
It's a single thing.
I've never seen stray from the form at all.
jordan holmes
I've never seen, like, a fruity candy corn.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
That's not how it works.
dan friesen
No, candy corn is candy corn.
jordan holmes
It is what it is.
There is no other version of it.
dan friesen
No, and that's why I was very surprised by this.
And so I give it high marks for that.
Even though I don't like a circus peanut.
jordan holmes
Also, even if it might have been a dream.
Still high marks.
dan friesen
If I came up with it, it's a great idea.
So the second thing is getting these buttons sent out.
And this has nothing to do with that at all.
Completely separate off to the side.
I have launched a GoFundMe for people if they want to chip in and donate to a good cause.
We're raising money for the Transgender Law Center.
And the name of that, if people want to chip in, donate a little, it is Nap Loving Celine's Call for Justice.
That was the AI-generated name that GoFundMe came up with.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Because I guess I mentioned that Celine was taking a nap in the body of the write-up.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So nap-loving Celine's call for justice if people want to get in on some good charitability.
jordan holmes
How have we ever lived without AI?
You know, where would nap-loving Celine come from?
dan friesen
It really cut through the BS.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
Just get straight to the point.
dan friesen
Sleepy cat is calling for justice.
jordan holmes
Yep, done and done.
dan friesen
Boom.
So that's exciting, and I hope people chip in.
jordan holmes
We will.
dan friesen
So today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's going to be a little short.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Probably a little bit on the short side.
This is episode 999.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
And so I maybe feel a little bit...
Weird.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
We're not people who are really into milestones all that much, but I feel like it might be getting to me a little bit.
jordan holmes
The thousand?
dan friesen
I feel like I might be having some...
jordan holmes
Thousand was the round number that gets to you.
That's why we don't celebrate milestones.
dan friesen
Because I think it's a crazy fucking number.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Because it's a thousand.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I was thinking this because my wife's mom, a fantastic woman, she texted like, I can't believe you got to a thousand.
And my response was, people eat pasta a thousand times.
dan friesen
In one sitting.
jordan holmes
Sometimes.
dan friesen
There's all those spaghettis.
jordan holmes
There's all those goddamn spaghettis, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, like...
dan friesen
No, I understand that.
Yeah.
But I think it would also be a little bit strange if you counted the number of times you had pasta and you got to 999.
I think you would start to have some, like, introspection and be like...
jordan holmes
Sure.
Do I eat too much pasta?
unidentified
Fucking pasta.
dan friesen
Here we are.
jordan holmes
Pasta, here we are.
dan friesen
And if you knew that, like, other people almost never get to a thousand pasta settings.
jordan holmes
Very true.
dan friesen
Like, a thousand podcast episodes is pretty...
Fucking crazy.
jordan holmes
It is pretty fucking crazy.
I will admit that.
dan friesen
So I think that maybe I've been a little bit in a state about that.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Tiny bit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I just, I feel like, you know, like I said, like the pasta analogy is this to me is as natural as any of the other things I do.
Like, oh, this is just what I do.
dan friesen
I agree.
I agree.
But I have that push and pull.
It's just what we do.
It's just another episode.
But at the same time.
You know?
jordan holmes
I get you!
dan friesen
Feels like, do you make it count?
How do you make it count?
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I'm coming up on 30 Days with Sonny, and honestly, that feels like a milestone, so I don't know.
I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
Sure.
And then you add into the mix, like, it's happening right at the same time as, like, Trump is taking office again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, literally the exact same time.
dan friesen
And eight years of us doing the show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Our anniversary was, like, a week ago.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And, like...
All of that's happening sort of in the same ball.
I don't know.
It's a lot to take in.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of how things change, how things stay the same very hard.
dan friesen
The conflict and tension between the idea of being in reruns and seeing Alex and being like, this is kind of rerun-ish.
Are we rerunning?
Is 1001 gonna be like one?
jordan holmes
The beginning of the...
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Let's start from the top, everybody.
dan friesen
It's tough.
It's tough to see, like, well, we have the power to not.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sort of.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so what do we do?
How do we maximize that?
jordan holmes
I think eventually we're going to have to go back to the past.
Because it is only by going back to the past that we can truly understand the present.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
And so I think we're going to have to do 2020 again.
I think we'll do every episode that we did from 2020.
And that'll teach us.
dan friesen
Maybe 2010.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes way more sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, I actually support that.
Maybe I will explore some of the past again.
jordan holmes
I think it's a good idea.
dan friesen
We'll see what happens.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But for now, we're going to talk about the 13th of January, 2025.
jordan holmes
All right.
2025!
dan friesen
Skip over to the 16th, because I've lost interest entirely.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Gwen and Tessa, ipon soy nagging mofos since 2024.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
part of that was that they were going to enjoy you trying to pronounce it.
dan friesen
I think I probably nailed it.
jordan holmes
I think you crushed it.
dan friesen
Next, Anthony, for Christmas, I'm a policy wonk!
jordan holmes
Thank you very much and Merry Christmas.
dan friesen
Merry Christmas.
unidentified
Merry Christmas.
dan friesen
Next, I just got back from mailing a deep pan of brownies, but now I can't find my bucket of poop.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Merry Christmas.
jordan holmes
Merry Christmas.
dan friesen
And we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much.
Two, we had to put Lilith down the day Alex announced bankruptcy.
She listened to more knowledge fight than any cat I know, so we still worship at her altar.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser little titty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
R.I.P.
Lilith.
jordan holmes
Yeah, our animal friends deserve a technocrat.
dan friesen
Yes, for sure.
So we start here on the 13th.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I just was like, fuck you.
alex jones
Organization for Economic Cooperative Development.
That's the Marshall Plan.
That's the real global government.
That set up the U.N. at the same time after World War II.
That's the Rockefeller-Rothschild combine.
Literally funded its founding.
Look it up.
The funding, the buildings, the infrastructure, everything.
And then start getting governments to sign over sovereignty to it.
Now, they already took over Europe because they'd been blown away and didn't really have a choice.
De Gaulle staged his own little counter coup.
That's why he is a French hero.
And kicked NATO out and grabbed...
NATO's nuclear weapons.
That's a footnote in history books.
You should think it's kind of a big deal.
He got troops together and went into the nuke base at the airport and grabbed the nukes.
Said, I have the nuclear weapons.
I'm in command.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
alex jones
Freed France.
jordan holmes
Was that the rock?
alex jones
France still is in the EU today.
Was brought back into it.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
But it wasn't even called the EU when de Gaulle did that.
He said, I'm not under the OECD.
Look it up.
Then they tried to kill him a bunch of times.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
The jackal and all that.
So he's a Trumpian figure there, General DeGaulle.
And so, see, people ask how I know all this.
It's fascinating.
Why would you not want to study all this and know how things actually work?
dan friesen
See how things actually work.
jordan holmes
I'm not a professional historian.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Especially not...
One of the masters of French history, which I assume is far more complicated, but my understanding...
dan friesen
Especially now that the language has died.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
My understanding was always that de Gaulle, World War II hero, horrible tyrants.
Like, those two things, like, started good, went, didn't go good.
dan friesen
Trumpian figure in part of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You could say.
jordan holmes
I would say, yeah.
dan friesen
I think Alex's version, also as not a super historian myself, I can tell you that Alex's version of what happened with nuclear weapons in France is a little bit off.
jordan holmes
That feels very Sean Connery in The Rock.
dan friesen
Charles de Gaulle is very noted for his...
Not going along with NATO's wishes for France not to develop nuclear weapons.
Right.
But he didn't storm an airport hangar and steal nuclear weapons to free the French people.
jordan holmes
And then he said, I'm the captain now to Tom Hanks.
dan friesen
Now the bigger problem is the jackal.
jordan holmes
That is an issue.
dan friesen
Is a fake character in a movie.
jordan holmes
I was concerned.
I was concerned that for a moment I was willing to gaslight myself into everything I've ever known being wrong and maybe the jackal.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
So The Jackal is a 1973 movie.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That is about attempted assassination on Charles de Gaulle.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So Alex is definitely talking about that movie.
jordan holmes
It is a very specific thing.
dan friesen
But it is a fake character.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It is fiction.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But this is where it gets all kinds of messy because it's historical fiction.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Charles de Gaulle is a character in it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
the jumping off point is about a real world failed assassination attempt on DeGaul.
Sure.
unidentified
But then the jackal and the character and the whole plot of the thing is Alex's brain is not designed to handle historical fiction.
dan friesen
It's too fucked up for him.
jordan holmes
Okay, is it possible, all right, that the jackal, despite being made post-Charles DeGaulle's attempted assassination, right, was somehow still predictive programming?
To time travelers.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, if I had to bet on something...
jordan holmes
A 12-monkey scenario.
I feel like that's what we're doing here.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I think when you're citing the Jackal, I have...
jordan holmes
Sighting.
dan friesen
I have no time.
Like, he's sighting the jackal and then being like, isn't it interesting to know how things really work?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, in a fictional movie?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't imagine reading, like, a recent history book that has a footnote that then sends you to the end notes, which say, just like...
Day of the Jekyll, comma, obviously it's AP style, 73, you know, it does the whole thing.
I would not trust that any further.
dan friesen
No, no.
It's an indication of poor quality.
jordan holmes
Microsoft Encarta.
dan friesen
Well, I think that, you know, if you're writing a paper on ideas and stuff like that, you could cite The Matrix.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
Because there's ideas explored within it.
jordan holmes
There are ideas.
dan friesen
But then if you're trying to cite it for historical...
Notation.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Outside of, like, oh, it changed things in cinema.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If you're doing any historical shit about, like, these fictional movies, you're off base.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So, like, if you were to write a paper that had, like, at one point, no one knows when the AI officially took over and what year it is, and then you cited The Matrix.
dan friesen
You'd be in trouble.
jordan holmes
That could be an issue.
dan friesen
You failed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be an issue.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking a lot about the fires in L.A. Sure.
And I realized, as I was listening to it, there's nothing here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, all of it is just that level of, let's cite the jackal.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Or it's all just the exact same shit he said about Lahaina.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's all just Maui fire conspiracies.
Over again.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not even worth discussing.
He's not even putting anything new into it.
jordan holmes
It's brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so I bid him adieu.
jordan holmes
Smart.
dan friesen
And we jump in back on the 16th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex is...
He's in a mood.
He's in a concerned mood.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Even though we know that the woke mind virus has been defeated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I feel like we should be celebrating.
We should have celebrated a little bit more.
There should have been a party at least.
dan friesen
Sure, or at least get back to catastrophic contagion or the aliens or something.
jordan holmes
We had a mission accomplished...
Things were better back in the day.
We had a full-on mission accomplished banner only a few years into the 20-year war.
dan friesen
That was the big energy that the woke mind virus defeated.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that could be.
We're all realists now.
dan friesen
Elon Musk sitting on an airport or aircraft carrier.
So Alex is concerned here on the 16th.
alex jones
The spectacular collapse of the globalist system and all their networks and their modes of control is moving so quickly.
I would liken it to a singularity of awakening.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
A moment where it all comes out.
And then I was trying, right before the show went live, eight minutes ago, to broadcast, to try to quantify in my mind, with all this data, why I'm so concerned, deeply concerned.
A level of concern I've never felt before.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
Real urgency, a desperateness that the final sand is running out of the hourglass from the top into the bottom.
And then I was culturally, intellectually, mathematically, politically integrating that just during the last one-minute break.
And it hit me.
All of this evil coming out is very good.
But when the general public really finds out how bad things are, and that the globalists have been deliberately killing people and poisoning people and all the rest of it, it is going to cause a lot of mental problems.
I mean, if you think we've got a lot of mental health issues now, people that...
Have bought into the system when they find out they've been totally betrayed.
And that there was a plan to fully collapse civilization that is ongoing, and that even Elon Musk has said he's not sure can be reversed.
dan friesen
So when Alex is saying that he's deeply concerned in a way that he's never felt before, I think it's because there's no more road in front of him.
They won.
They have control of every aspect of the government.
They control the Supreme Court.
Elon Musk owns Twitter.
Rogan and Tucker are majorly culturally influential people who are willing to associate with Alex.
There is no excuse.
The woke mind virus is dead.
If you want me to drain the swamp again, why?
You control all of this.
There's a concern that he's having.
Because after Monday, what's your excuse?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is a really good point.
dan friesen
And things are going to get bad.
jordan holmes
Sure, they should.
dan friesen
After Monday.
jordan holmes
Based upon everything we've ever known.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the weak shit excuse of like, oh, the deep state holdovers are undermining Trump.
No one's going to get excited about that again.
jordan holmes
You just can't.
dan friesen
We've already done that.
We've gone over this territory, and I think that Alex realizes on some level that, like, fuck, I've really been skating by on getting people scared that maybe Jamie Raskin is going to stop the certification on January 6th, and then it doesn't happen.
Uh-oh.
We're marching forward towards inauguration, and all of the crazy elaborate plots that the globalists had cooked up, none of it's happened.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So here's what we've got.
We've got a Lord of the Rings situation, right?
So you defeat Sauron.
Good.
Great.
Then you've got to go home to the Shire.
But it sucks in the Shire because you can never go home again.
And also, Saruman's still there fucking everything up.
So you can never go home again.
You can never step in the same river twice.
Now you have to diminish and go into the West.
That's Galadriel's point.
You have to diminish and go into the West.
Alex has got to go, man!
dan friesen
I do think that there is very little left for him to reasonably do.
And I think that what it...
Amounts to is diminishing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's a recognition, I think, on some level that he's like, I'm going to have to do some bad shit.
I'm going to have to defend really bad shit.
Yeah.
Or just spin my wheels here for four years.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Now here's what I'm thinking.
All right.
So here we rewrite Lord of the Rings.
They defeat Sauron.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
They decide that any monarchical leader, anybody who's singular with total power, can no longer be trusted.
They're all possible sorons, right?
So the hobbits, they don't go back home to the Shire.
They go to fucking Minas Tirith, right?
And they're just going to fuck with Aragorn for the rest of their lives until Aragorn goes down.
Then they're headed to the woods.
They're going to take down Galadriel.
They're on a mission to take down every government.
So I think Alex has got to go full on.
Evil Hobbit!
dan friesen
Well, I think that if you expand the metaphor a little bit, I think that is what he's doing.
jordan holmes
I think it's a very strained metaphor as it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that you also have a situation that Alex, I think, recognizes that he's in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is a bad situation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it would have been shitty if Ron Paul had won...
And all the government was taken over by We Are Change people back in the time of the Tea Party.
Alex would not be a figure that anyone talked about anymore now if that had happened.
He's in that situation now.
They have what amounts to control over everything.
And I think he realizes that, like, fuck.
If Trump follows through with this idea to do mass deportation drives and stuff like that, they're going to end up brutalizing tons of people.
They're going to end up sweeping up tons of citizens in these dragnets.
jordan holmes
We put people in cages last time.
dan friesen
Children!
They're going to displace...
All sorts of people, traumatized communities.
And Alex is going to have to be gung-ho in support of all of this.
jordan holmes
He's got to love it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that he realizes, like, ah, shit, this is going to be bad.
I'm going to be the defender of a police state.
And then I think he also recognizes that he chose wrong, even within that box that he's put himself in, by being so defending of Elon Musk.
Because I think that he sees some writing on the wall that, like, The whole sticking true to the hating globalists kind of thing isn't going to be well served by cozying up to this billionaire.
Whenever this fake populism that we have stirred up in people and tried to hide behind, when that comes to a crescendo, I'm on the wrong side of this.
He should be on the other side like Steve Bannon has been.
Steve Bannon's been pretty anti-Musk.
And I think that's the right posturing for the people in this space.
I think Alex is out of step.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the problem is the correct thing to do in this situation is you've got one pivot, and that's to go with real populism, to become a person who's the complete opposite of everything that he's ever been, to have a heel turn in his world.
And I don't think that's outside of the possibility.
I think, listen, the American media can't wait to make Alex a hero for turning against Trump.
They've done it like 50 times.
dan friesen
I think they would fall for it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think a fair amount of people would probably fall for it if he tried it.
jordan holmes
They couldn't wait to fall for it.
dan friesen
Yeah, in the same way that he can't wait to be like, oh, Bill Maher said something good.
He's a patriot now.
jordan holmes
Totally, yeah.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
The media would be like, oh, Alex has learned his lesson.
jordan holmes
They love that shit.
dan friesen
He could do a Glenn Beck if he wanted to.
jordan holmes
Totally.
And then he's still got time to do an un-Glenbeck, and he could even tell people he was going to do an un-Glenbeck.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't think that his current positioning is worth it.
And I think he realizes that, and I think he realizes how bad things are going to get.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's just in a spot where all he has to do is do the thing, right?
He just has to change everything that's about him.
Which is interesting because it does feel like he's been funneled into a place where that's his only rational choice.
His only rational choice is to abandon the past 30 years of his life.
Right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
But you can't do that.
dan friesen
Strongly disagree.
I think continuing down the path that he appears to be going down now is that.
Is that turning on the perception of the last 30 years of his life?
jordan holmes
Okay, I apologize.
In order to become a real populist, he would have to stake out positions that he has been vocally against for the longest time.
dan friesen
At least the last eight years.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that that would be way more interesting than hearing him complain about how, like, People are mad that he likes Elon Musk.
But, hey, we'll see what ends up happening.
Yep, yep.
So Alex's concern, part of it is this idea that once people see the light and see how bad everything is, they're gonna go crazy.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And there's gonna be some bad shit that ends up happening.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
And what are we gonna do with all the, like, fucking useless people?
jordan holmes
Oh, let's not do that.
Let's not ask ourselves that question.
Never a good question.
dan friesen
Strange question to hear Alex wrestling with.
alex jones
Myself, all of you, everybody needs to really get their game face on and get their head in the game.
And we don't have time for playing around.
And I do see a lot of seriousness now, not just here but around the world, by leaders and thinkers at every level.
And so there is a, again, a hyper-fast understanding taking place.
And so, that's the good news is, at least we are dislodging a lot of the really bad guys that set this up.
And that have created so many of these crises and exacerbated others and not let others that they didn't create go to waste.
I just hope humanity understands that we are in an emergency.
And, you know, I see people on the left and the so-called right attack me, and I talked about this last week, going, oh, Jones, you know, has had another emergency broadcast.
I mean, have you looked around you?
jordan holmes
Is that us?
I feel like that's us.
alex jones
77% of young people are too sick and fat and mentally ill to be able to even pass the basic military entrance exam that is...
I mean, people with 80 IQs can pass that.
I mean, we're talking low-grade morons.
jordan holmes
Is that how that works?
alex jones
And what do you do with all these people that have been drinking red dye number three and aspartame, and their mothers didn't breastfeed them, so they were on formula that absolutely lowers your IQ massively.
And so the globalist project to poison everybody...
Goes on, even if we stop it and cut out what they've been doing, we're already so damaged from the COVID shots and all of it that, yeah, we're winning this death battle and the bad guys are going to get it.
And we have a responsibility to be brutal and merciless in...
And dislodging them and prosecuting them and imprisoning them so they can't keep doing it, and to scare their minions to not try to reorganize what they've done.
But that's the first stage of this.
And we have to understand that if we're not hardcore, it's over.
We're going to blow the planet up.
dan friesen
I've heard people say a lot less extreme things than that, and Alex has said that they're calling for extermination of the useless eaters and what have you.
This is fucked up.
Like, I know that if you want to be overly generous, you can look at this and say, like, he's not calling for killing off those 77% of people who can't pass military tests.
jordan holmes
Wrong.
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
But he is, he's saying, what do we do with all of these stupid people that weren't breastfed and got vaccines and now are useless?
If they're around, we're going to blow ourselves up.
The world's going to end.
He's making preemptive kind of overtures towards locking up idiot people, people that he views as idiots, or people who believe left-leaning politics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I remember being annoyed because I remember having so many like, slippery slope, slippery slope, you do the thing.
And I've realized that those are the same people who are not making slippery slope arguments.
They're just lying about their true arguments, right?
I've read a bunch of books by, you know, like, where...
We're philosophers, but also we're, you know, all that stuff.
And eventually they get to a certain point where they're like, it's not eugenics.
And you're like, that's when you start talking about your eugenics!
dan friesen
It's not eugenics, but.
jordan holmes
You are, yeah, you're doing the thing.
Stop it.
Stop acting like you're not doing the thing.
dan friesen
No, no, no, it's about breastfeeding.
jordan holmes
No!
Absolutely not.
Nobody's, anytime people are like, oh, what are we going to do with all these useless people?
It is never, well, let's just give everybody an apprentice.
We double the workforce immediately.
Everybody has somebody that they just teach to do their job.
That's it.
Done.
dan friesen
That's definitely not the way that this vibes.
jordan holmes
Never an idea.
It's always like, well, we gotta get rid of him.
No!
dan friesen
Well, I think that one of the things that, you know, obviously Alex made a lot of money on basing his career around is stuff like Yuval Noah Harari saying things like...
There are going to be a whole class of people that are going to be unemployable in the future when we have automation and robotics and stuff.
Alex has decried that as a mentality that is genocidal and exterminationist, and he's mirroring very similar thoughts.
Yeah.
He should...
Check in on that.
jordan holmes
No, it's objective.
It's objective to just rationally look at the resources that we have right now and conclude that we have to eugenics a bunch of people.
Makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
I think he should...
I don't know.
I don't want to say go back to booze, but...
This is a bad look.
jordan holmes
I think he's got to go Scorpio from The Simpsons.
He's just got to have an underground lair, volcano style, get some henchmen, just do it up.
dan friesen
I'd like an underground lair.
That'd be great.
jordan holmes
I think we all deserve an underground...
What are we going to do with all those useless people?
Give them underground lairs.
dan friesen
Start a public works program where we build underground lairs.
jordan holmes
Nope, can't do it.
We got to get rid of them.
dan friesen
So on this episode, the 16th, Alex has a guest.
Yeah.
It is not a very interesting interview at all.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But the fact that it happened is really, really wild.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Do you want to try and guess who it is?
It's not Kevin Sorba.
jordan holmes
I mean, it feels that one is probably my crowding achievement.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is it Roseanne again?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, because we already know that.
dan friesen
I'll tell you, it's not an American.
jordan holmes
It's not an American.
Okay.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu.
Is he dead?
dan friesen
I think he's dead.
unidentified
Shit.
dan friesen
And Alex would not have a good interview with him.
jordan holmes
Well, that's why it would be very surprising.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I would be shocked to see that interview.
jordan holmes
That would be very surprising, yeah.
dan friesen
No, it is Kalen Georgescu.
jordan holmes
Never heard of that person.
dan friesen
You have, at very least in passing.
He is the ultra-nationalist candidate for the presidency of Romania, who they threw out the first round of elections when he won.
jordan holmes
Right, I do remember that now.
I had something to say about Eskew's being...
Yes.
dan friesen
So he's on.
jordan holmes
Great!
dan friesen
Alex landed an interview with the guy who was leading in the polls for the presidency of Romania.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
So he's got a Romanian Nazi on.
dan friesen
Sort of.
Alex gives a long introduction to him.
alex jones
So I'm going to try to go to our very special guest and give him the floor here to speak.
He speaks great English, but...
jordan holmes
Great start.
alex jones
Understand, ladies and gentlemen, 17 years working within the United Nations, serving as the OHCHR Special Repertoire on the Adverse Effects of Transportation of Toxic and Hazardous Products on Human Rights.
Product Director of the UNDP, UNEP, Representative for Romania's National Council, Executive Director of the UN Institute for the Global Sustainability Index.
That's the model of the whole global ESG system.
I mean, this guy's at the top.
He served as president of the European Research Council for the Club of Rome.
I mean, that's the top.
2013-2015.
And was a member of the International Club of Rome in Switzerland.
I'm going to stop there, because we've only got 45 minutes, 50 minutes left with him.
You've got to go.
After he leaves, I will read the bio up front when we're still live next hour, and I'll tag you in front of this when we upload it to X. This needs to get 100 million views.
So...
Colleen Georgescu just had his victory stolen from him.
He is the admitted president of Romania.
They're not even denying they took it from him and the people of Romania.
And they're saying it's the model for everywhere else.
And since then, they've dissolved Parliament in Canada, and Trudeau's not resigning.
And that's not even a major news issue.
So, Colleen, thank you so much for your time, sir.
We really appreciate you.
We can talk about what's happened with the election, the big demonstrations against it, all the things that are happening.
But to me, go there first if you think it's best.
But the time we have, I'm going to just don't stop because I'm trying to give you the floor.
Maybe we should go back to the beginning about who you are, what you did, top diplomat, directing one of the top systems for the UN, developing their entire scoring system for global government.
I mean...
You are a true insider, and then your whole process of being read into what it was really about, which you've exposed before, but I want you to recap for those that don't know, and then going to your country, galvanizing the people, leading them back into freedom, and helping bring the world to the verge of nuclear war, and then they stage a coup against you and your people, and then admit it's a coup.
This is unprecedented.
So, sir, that's a long introduction.
Thank you so much.
calin georgescu
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Alex.
Thank you for having me today.
And I very much appreciate your introduction, which is amazing in the sense of the spirit of Romanian people, because this is the most important point.
Great and historical nation speaking about Romania.
I'm very proud that I'm part of a Romanian nation.
I'm very proud that I'm Romanian.
But nevertheless, that we have to take care about our humanity.
I think this is the most important point.
dan friesen
So this is insane that this is happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That this interview is happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's also insane the way that Alex is presenting things.
Georgescu does have this stuff in his resume.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He was pretty high up in the Club of Rome.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's a diplomat and such.
jordan holmes
Did the stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, that stuff's fair enough.
He did not win the election.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
He won the first round of the election that went to a runoff, and then that was canceled.
Sure.
So they didn't take away the presidency from him as much as they disrupted that process, and there's a new election that has been scheduled.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I believe in May.
jordan holmes
There's a redo.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And part of the reason for this is he was polling very low.
And then there was a blitz of a ton of advertising on TikTok.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And a lot of it, based on things that have been released by the Romanian intelligence agencies, there is strong belief that these things were paid promotional ads for his campaign that were undisclosed political advertising.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is illegal.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
So, this is the big concern that led to him jumping from, like, 5% to 23% in the polls.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
23% was enough to lead in the primary round, the first round.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The second place person had, like, 19%.
So, there's going to be a runoff between them.
And I think odds are, if those numbers were continuous and legitimate, he had a decent chance at winning the second round, the runoff.
But you have what is essentially a quagmire here, you know?
Like, there isn't really a good thing to do.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, I think ultimately they are doing the good thing, though, is that if you do an illegal thing that gets you to the thing, you have to redo it.
Like, we don't do that.
We have a system wherein, like...
Roger Stone can go to jail in 2016 for all kinds of weird stuff affecting the election, but we'll just keep the results.
dan friesen
Sure.
And we'll let the person who benefits pardon that guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's totally fine.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
But like...
The issue that why I'm describing this as a quagmire, while I agree with you, I think that if there is illegality here, throwing out these results and doing a do-over makes sense.
jordan holmes
But it is a quagmire.
dan friesen
And the reason is because, realistically, throwing out that election is...
Probably going to make him a higher profile candidate.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
And create the appearance of everyone being so afraid of him.
It's going to make it more likely that you redo the election and he gets even higher numbers, probably.
jordan holmes
Sure, it's possible.
dan friesen
It feeds into the ethos and story of characters like him.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Electorally.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So if you're trying to stop him as a candidate, this is not what you would do.
But that story is easy to tell for someone like him and someone like Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, but, you know, I mean, at a certain point, you just gotta do it.
You gotta do it.
It's illegal, so we gotta do it.
You know, like, unfortunately...
Well, fortunately for them, right?
Their system works on, like, an almost...
Like, it's a fail-safe.
Like, the law is a fail-safe, which is kind of what it should be.
Like, if shit is so wrong that it's illegal, we gotta do it again.
You know, it's just what it's got to be done.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't want to fully back this because I don't believe from everything that I've seen, I know exactly what happened or what these paid advertisements were on TikTok.
And I think that it is easy to overstate.
Some amount of, like, what evidence do you have that these were paid advertisements as illegal campaign stuff?
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So I want to leave the window open there for a little bit of, like, hey, there could be some shady shit going on.
jordan holmes
There always is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But from what has been provided to my awareness at this point, if that is the illegal campaigning that's done, yeah, throw out those results, do it over.
I just think that...
The story that's being told is of a power structure and the UN that cannot tolerate the idea of Georgescu getting in.
jordan holmes
Right.
So they're doing a Georgescu.
dan friesen
Right, but they're not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
The actions that they're taking...
They aid him.
jordan holmes
They're very reasonable.
dan friesen
But they also aid him from a public image standpoint.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Yeah, so if you were them and you were going to try and pull off a coup of some sort, this is not what you would do.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You wouldn't let him on the second ballot.
You wouldn't let him on the redo election.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I mean, that would be what you'd...
jordan holmes
Or if this was information that you kind of deep-throated.
You know, and then you would release it deep throat from the thing.
dan friesen
I gotcha.
unidentified
Not...
dan friesen
I getcha.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then you could, like, release it as an October surprise kind of thing, and then you alter the race.
Like, that would be more effective than being like, hey, guys, sorry, the rules are, you know, nobody wants to replay the last point.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's...
I mean, overall, it's just like, wow, okay.
This guy does have a reasonable chance of winning this election when they redo it.
And here he is with Alex.
It's fucked up!
jordan holmes
You know what, today Kudos released another video, which, god damn, they're great.
They're very enjoyable.
dan friesen
On YouTube.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I wish it weren't about us, because it feels very navel-gazy just to enjoy it.
Like, they're really well done, but it's about me, so I feel like an asshole.
dan friesen
Well, it's more about Marty Schachter's soap company.
jordan holmes
So that's what I'm saying.
It's like...
Man, that's a guest.
That's a guest right there.
The three limerick shot that he took.
Brutal, brutal attack on Alex's psyche.
But it's a guy who has a soap company.
It's not the Romanian possible prime minister.
dan friesen
Right.
In the in-between state between the election results being thrown out and the redo election.
He's at a time when this is the most impactful time that this person could be.
Yep.
Here.
And he's choosing to come on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Which is crazy.
jordan holmes
It is insane.
dan friesen
Because a lot of the time it is, I mean, it is still like inconsequential lunatics who end up showing up on Alex's show.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
This is someone who's, you know, fairly relevant and possibly a world leader.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucked up.
jordan holmes
Which is interesting because it's so much like the means are the message, right?
It doesn't matter if he, what he says on Alex Jones and Infowars.
What matters.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's not really all that interesting of an interview from somebody who was, like, high up in the Club of Rome talking to Alex.
You'd think, like, oh man, we're gonna get in the weeds.
This is gonna be really interesting.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And instead, there's a lot of stuff about how this election is unfair, and obviously...
I get why he's saying that.
And then a lot of kind of vague platitudes about how inside the UN they don't care about peace, they care about war because it's profitable.
And sure, I mean, just from a 30,000 foot view, I get what you're saying.
Sure.
But it's, yeah, it's not very interesting.
It's just that it happened.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I just, if it's me doing the thing, if I'm going to go on Infowars and I'm this guy.
I'm definitely not worried about credibility loss.
So I go on and I play ball with Alex.
I'm talking about sex parties that never happen.
I'm talking about people who are fucking crazy doing all this shit.
I'm not saying names, because I'm smarter than Alex Jones is.
You know, I'm doing all this stuff.
I'm having a ball.
I can't imagine trying to be a reasonable, like, well, I feel like...
My vision for the country is better.
dan friesen
Yeah, he just comes off as kind of like, you know, a politician I disagree with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, I want, if you're talking to this guy who's an insider who has all this shit, let's get, let's...
Let's do this.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Instead, the level of preparation that Alex seems to be expressing is the, you already won the presidency, I'm going to superimpose all kind of Trump talking points onto you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I just, I don't know, I don't find it, I think it's shit.
Yeah.
So Alex tries to play big dog.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
With Georgesco.
unidentified
Okay.
calin georgescu
But the situation of Europe is very, very difficult right now because they invest a lot, a lot of money in this war.
But in any case, the wave is coming, because you have seen the situation in Austria, you have seen the situation in Croatia, which also a leader, a real leader.
alex jones
That's right, I forgot to add, they've been trying to block the election results in Austria for over a month.
calin georgescu
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
But in any case, important is that the wave is coming, and it's a snowball effect of the sovereignty, not only in Europe, but in whole.
world.
unidentified
And of course, I really hope that President Trump will act about this situation as soon as he will be confirmed in January 20. This is a very important position, which we are looking, all of us, Yes, sir.
alex jones
I'm sure you're already doing this, but I would advise you to get in contact with his top people.
But just go there when he's there.
He will meet you.
And believe me, you need to come meet with President Trump.
Obviously, that would be a very dangerous trip because they know that's the right move.
But Trump, I know, is aware of the situation.
But if he meets with you and learns the details, that would be the move.
calin georgescu
Yeah, look, what I want to mention here is that the legacy media...
Notify permanently a wrong situation in Ukraine.
Definitely, in my opinion, Zelensky won the PR war, but Putin won the real war.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's very much against supporting Ukraine.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's one of the reasons why...
Everyone likes him.
unidentified
Right, right.
jordan holmes
This is the thing.
Gotcha.
dan friesen
But I think that there's two kind of implications inside this clip that are wild.
One is that Alex is trying to connect Drogescu with Trump.
Yep.
That seems like that connection might already be made, but Alex seems to think that he's a central spoke in this wheel, which is fucking insane because he was just citing the jackal earlier.
alex jones
Ah!
dan friesen
But then the second thing is that Alex seems to be presenting a position that Trump doesn't know about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that seems weird.
Alex should think that Trump already knows about this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And is very concerned about major...
jordan holmes
Election results.
And he's taking a personal interest because he's got his own election results.
dan friesen
No, no, you've got to just show up at Mar-a-Lago.
He'll talk to you.
It'll be totally cool.
Once he knows about what you're going through, he'll totally get your back.
That's weird.
jordan holmes
It feels like it shouldn't be allowed for a person to sound this reasonable as though he's, like, talking to a person.
Like, what are you doing?
This guy just recently cited the jackal as a major issue for Charles de Gaulle.
Right?
Like, you shouldn't be like, oh, well, I prefer this candidate.
Fucking dance!
Do a little, throw some salt in the air.
Do something crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be nice.
Instead, they're having a...
Normal conversation about how maybe Alex will get him into the inner circle of Trump.
jordan holmes
That's fucking infuriating!
dan friesen
It is.
It is.
So really, just to have one more clip, because their interview really isn't that interesting.
Like I said, it's just that it happened.
But Alex is declaring him the president of Romania.
jordan holmes
Well, okay.
alex jones
President George Eskew, you are the president.
They admit you were the winner.
And the fact that they're now bragging at the EU that they'll do it in Germany and cancel the AFD win.
If they win, is extreme arrogance.
And can you just speak to that?
I mean, this is one of the most naked coups I've ever seen in the last hundred years, and I've studied history.
This is flagrantly out in the open.
Why do you think they're so arrogant?
And as you said, your own media keeps acting like it's not a coup, but then the EU and NATO leaders are bragging.
calin georgescu
Yeah.
Because they are disparates.
They are doing a lot of mistakes.
dan friesen
So Alex has declared him the president of another country.
This is weird.
There's so much projection just of, like, what he feels about Trump.
He's now Romania's Trump.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I don't think that's good.
jordan holmes
No, it is strange to, like, confront a real-life, like, everything is associated with the God King.
Like, it is really strange because they're treating him not like, not even like a president or like the fucking queen.
They're treating him like a pharaoh.
Like a straight-up, like, he is God's representative on Earth because he is also part God, and when he dies, he will return to godhood alongside the other pantheon.
dan friesen
And until he revisits us, his son will fill in for him because he has a piece of it.
jordan holmes
Totally!
And then we'll just do the thing again.
I'm fine with building a pyramid if we just do it right fucking now and we don't let him govern and shit.
You know?
Like, let's do that.
Like, let's just bank a pyramid up.
dan friesen
I'm also fine with you being like, he is our god king and all of this, because then we can respond accordingly.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, I am totally fine if you want to have a messianic religious connection with Trump and argue that he should be president based on that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If you're going to be transparent and open about that, then we can, you know, have a conversation about that.
Right.
As opposed to this kind of bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Where you're trying to have it both ways.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Have it political and demons walk among us and attack Tucker in his sleep.
Like, it's bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is a situation where it really exemplifies that concept of the meek shall inherit the earth.
Kind of the thing, like, calling people the meek, you know, is to a certain extent saying...
The massive amount of people that there are in a vacuum, if you were like, oh, if you cheat on an election, should you still win?
They would be like, no.
And even if it's your guy, and they'd be like, no, cheating is wrong.
We all know this.
It gets complicated because there's like 50 other really powerful, famous liars who are like, they're cheating.
And then you'll never know.
You know, like it is the moment whenever everybody can just be like, we all know cheating's bad.
We all do.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
The tension that you have a lot of times when it comes to an election year is that you have to support one side because the other side is Trump.
There is not room for a little bit of nuance in that.
And Alex gets himself into that kind of position where the enemy is the devil.
And so Trump has to be acceptable no matter what.
jordan holmes
What isn't preferable to the devil?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He said that the police should have one rough day.
Trump has said that stuff.
Alex can't possibly rationalize that.
But the alternative is the devil.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the justification of your immortal soul has really been used for a lot of bad things.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because what's more important?
Your immortal soul.
That's the most important.
It's forever.
So it justifies doing anything to your mortal body as long as the immortal soul is saved.
And we're hosed because people really like to fuck with your mortal body.
dan friesen
Yep, and they've connected your soul to Trump somehow.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Fuck me.
We'll be back.
But I don't know.
There's a lot of roiling thoughts.
jordan holmes
Let's just do 1001.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Let's just skip it.
Let's just fucking skip it.
And we'll put out a little note saying this was where 1,000 would go, and then we'll do 1,001.
dan friesen
We'll get back to it later.
jordan holmes
We'll get back to it.
Yeah, we'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
But yeah, I just think that having all of this kind of percolating at the same time, it's been eight years of this show, thousand episodes, Trump is coming back into office.
Alex is a dipshit clown, and he is interviewing a guy who's conceivably going to be the president of Romania.
jordan holmes
And that guy is treating him as though he's not a dipshit clown.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a lot to digest.
jordan holmes
It's too much.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Too much for any one group of people to digest.
dan friesen
So maybe we take a tiny little breakie.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And we'll see you next time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Leo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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