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Oct. 11, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#971: October 2-3, 2024

#971: October 2-3, 2024 Alex Jones falsely ties Tim Walz’s abortion debate to "missing" children (300,000 unaccompanied minors) and blames globalists for a Marburg virus scare in Germany, ignoring Rwanda’s actual outbreak. He dismisses caller skepticism about Hadley Duvall’s claims as "lies," promotes Kevin Sorbo’s debunked Hollywood conspiracy theories, and hypes James O’Keefe’s Tucker Carlson-backed film while mocking mainstream box office hits. The episode reveals Jones’s reliance on cherry-picked narratives to fuel paranoia, despite his hosts’ factual corrections, culminating in a bizarre detour to Melania Trump’s alleged disdain—underscoring his erratic, attention-grabbing style over substance. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 20:05
d
dan friesen
47:03
j
jordan holmes
21:13
Appearances
j
james okeefe
00:48
k
kevin sorbo
02:20
m
margaret brennan
cbs 00:30
Clips
k
kamala harris
d 00:26
m
mike lee
sen/r 00:11
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang me are the bad guys.
unidentified
Knowledge.
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the airplane for all of us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fifth time calling with you today.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jerry.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed, we are, Dan.
unidentified
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is that I am enjoying Time Tunnel and our side podcast.
Sure.
It's about time.
It's a matter of time.
It's a matter of time.
But, yeah, something did risk taking the attention away from Time Tunnel.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Something almost became the new thing that I've got to watch.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And I'm very excited about it.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
So I saw some commercials.
I don't know.
Maybe I was watching like a wrestling pay-per-view or something.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I saw some commercials for a new show called Brilliant Minds.
Have you heard of this?
jordan holmes
No, I have not.
dan friesen
Okay.
Stars Zachary Quinto.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Siler or Spock, if you're sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
Okay.
And it's just house, but not.
It's just house MD.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But he's not on drugs.
doesn't seem to hate everybody and uh uh woke it's just a competent doctor no he's the best doctor Oh, he's also the best doctor.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay, so we're just watching the best doctor have very few struggles in life.
dan friesen
Well, no, he has some problems.
He has face blindness.
jordan holmes
No!
Not faceblindness!
Bring awareness to this condition!
dan friesen
He has some issues with his parents, and his mom is the head of the hospital that he ends up at.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So she's going to cause the roof.
That's going to cause the risk.
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't.
He doesn't.
So that takes it from both a professional to a family.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
No, that's intense.
dan friesen
I loved House when I was younger because I liked the kind of mystery, just the structure of it.
jordan holmes
Was it Lupus?
No, it wasn't Lupus.
dan friesen
It's never sarcoidosis.
jordan holmes
Never.
dan friesen
Love it.
It's a good structure for a show in a medical setting.
Sure.
Hugh Laurie's Charismatics.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So I was excited to see that there's a new one that's basically the same thing.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But Zachary Quinto, who is incredibly charming and always fun to watch.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so I started watching it.
And then as the layers are peeled back, like, oh, what's his house?
It has a bum leg.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it has to take pills.
Oh, he has face blindness.
All right.
That's it.
Interesting.
Wait, who's his putty?
Oh, it's his mom.
The layers peel back.
And I'm like, this is the best show ever.
unidentified
It's so bad, but it's so good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's really terrible.
dan friesen
I think it's really bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's no one on stage's fault that I can tell.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because everyone's doing a good job in the show.
Quinto's great.
His team is great.
The person who's playing his mom is great.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, it's all good performances I'm seeing on the screen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that's just a mess.
That sounds like it's from the 1940s.
Like, that's a TV script from back then.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nuts.
And Time Tunnel.
dan friesen
So far, it also seems like a large.
There's been three episodes so far.
Yeah.
And it feels to me like a great deal of the plot and dramatic tension is him not minding his own goddamn business.
Oh, like he's meddling in shit that he has no money.
jordan holmes
He's meddling in shit?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
He's a great doctor with face blindness who just meddles in shit and his mom is there.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's your story.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Zachary Quinto.
jordan holmes
We're out of ideas, man.
We're all out of ideas.
We just got to shut it down and start over.
dan friesen
I'm going to watch the shit out of you.
jordan holmes
I'm going to fucking Bollywood.
That's where the writing is really happening now.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There are musical numbers.
I made that up.
There's no musical numbers in this NBC show.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
dan friesen
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is yesterday, it was my wife's birthday.
It was lovely.
She took the day off because she had a doctor's appointment.
We're old now, so that's birthday stuff.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But yeah, I woke her up early with some donuts, got her some gummy worms.
Those are really most of my gifts.
I went around and looked for better stuff out there.
dan friesen
Donuts and gummy worms.
It's tough.
Stop it.
jordan holmes
It's tough when you're in middle it.
Yeah, I know.
It's tough because it's like, what do you, how do you both celebrate a birthday and then go, listen, we've been doing this for long enough now.
We got to grow up.
You know, that kind of thing.
But it was great.
We just spent the day together.
dan friesen
Yeah, it used to be like a good bender, maybe.
Yeah, something like that.
Sweets.
jordan holmes
Let's go out.
Do you really want to do that?
Me neither.
No, I don't.
dan friesen
Sweets.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's snack.
We ate six.
You know those potato donuts, my man.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, they're good.
jordan holmes
We ate a half dozen of those throughout the day.
unidentified
Can't blame you.
jordan holmes
Nibble after nibble after nibble from 7 a.m. until 9 at night.
dan friesen
It's easy to do.
jordan holmes
Oh, delicious.
dan friesen
Well, happy birthday to your wife.
unidentified
Happy birthday.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about October 2nd and 3rd, 2024.
Okay.
There's some high weirdness going on on this episode, and then an amazing guest.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And I'm being facetious.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on this, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, first, she's E.E. Cummings.
He makes her come back for more like Ollie Twist with his saucer.
What?
Happy fifth anniversary, Art Dodge.
Thank you so much.
You're an Alpazy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Susie Honks is a policy wonks.
Thank you so much, you're an Al Palzi Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
I am a policy squonk.
If you know, you know, my apologies to Sean May.
Thank you so much, you're an Alpazywonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And shout out to Heather for getting me to listen to the show every week so we can talk about the insanity.
Thank you.
You are an Alpazywonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So we start off this episode, and Alex has a bit of a dramatic tone to kick things off.
alex jones
This will be a day long remembered.
We'll soon see the end of the Democrats.
Infowars.
Tomorrow's news.
Today.
dan friesen
Tomorrow's news today: the Jedi are going down.
jordan holmes
Yep.
It's about time.
dan friesen
It's about time.
It's a bit dramatic.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I think we all teared up a little bit when Order 66 was executed.
And then, I mean, watching the younglings get torn apart by our future Darth.
dan friesen
Well, that's probably Chase, right?
Yeah, Chase Geyser is going to have to kill the younglings.
jordan holmes
Is Chase our Anakin in this scenario?
Oh, man, that's brutal.
dan friesen
He has the acting range.
jordan holmes
He does.
He really does.
He really knows how to nail whining.
dan friesen
So, Alex, this was really what grabbed me about this episode.
I turned it on and I was like, okay, Alex is in a particular mood, and maybe one we haven't really ever seen on him before.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And you might describe it as euphoria.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
But he's not on drugs.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Well, he should do drugs.
alex jones
I'm not on drugs.
I've had a cup of coffee this morning, didn't eat breakfast and worked out for an hour and 15 minutes.
And about 10 minutes before I went on air, I was just hit with euphoria.
I'm hiring a kite right now.
I told the crew, I said, I'm not going to be able to do the show.
I don't know what's going on.
I just feel total euphoria.
This is weird.
I have a few times I was like three or four years old.
I have early memories of just having euphoria walking around the backyard of the house or whatever.
And that's kind of how I feel right now.
And then I was analyzing it right as we were going live two minutes ago.
And I went, I felt a disturbance in the force.
The last time I felt it was in the presence of my old master.
And I really started thinking about what was I intellectually thinking getting ready for the show.
What was the understanding I had?
And it was that the enemy is defeated.
They're being crushed.
And everything they do is failing.
And the tide has totally turned.
And a great weight lifted off of me.
That's what it is.
When you get hit with something so huge, and I was going to come on air and explain that.
And I literally stumbled in there to talk to Ben because he'll type out what I want for the live show headlines because I was God smacked.
I guess is the word they use for it.
Is this what being God smacked?
Pull up the definition of God smacked.
jordan holmes
Really?
We're doing that, huh?
alex jones
God, it happened about seven, eight minutes before I went live at about 10, 53.
I get a cup of coffee and I walk in here to the studio.
I'd already been getting ready earlier.
And I just start like going, whoa, I'm having euphoria.
dan friesen
Someone slits some LSD in his coffee.
jordan holmes
I mean, wouldn't that be fun?
Wouldn't that be a regular, wouldn't that be a regular occurrence, though, if I was running a prank at the office space?
dan friesen
With Alex?
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
What's the difference?
Who's even going to be able to prove anything?
dan friesen
Well, because you will then turn into a 60-story tall mantis who hates Christians, and Alex will destroy you.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that's preferable.
I would be worried that I would turn into more of like a giant drumstick that he would like to take a big bite out of.
dan friesen
Either way, and no matter what the case, you're not safe.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
Around Alex tripping.
No way.
Unsafe work environment.
jordan holmes
I think it'd just be more Star Wars references.
Probably.
dan friesen
And great impressions.
So, yeah, he felt a euphoria that just came over him because he realized that the globalists have been defeated.
Well, job done then.
Hey, I guess.
jordan holmes
I mean, let's go home.
dan friesen
No need to sell these supplements in order to carry on the fight that's been won.
jordan holmes
Yeah, can't we?
Can't we stop then?
Can't we all stop?
dan friesen
Sure.
He should be able to.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, the fight's already won.
dan friesen
The story is supposed to be triggering, right?
It's like the job is done.
Go to your hammock.
Go lay down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Enjoy the breeze.
jordan holmes
The reward is after you win.
So just go take it.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this feeling is diminishing.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, that makes sense.
dan friesen
It's kind of dying down with time.
alex jones
I just got thunderbolted like Saul of Tarsus on the road of Damascus or something.
It's starting to dissipate.
Thank God.
Or I couldn't do the show.
I mean, I'm talking like I've only felt like this.
I have vague memories a few times when I was a child feeling like this.
This is a different feeling.
This is, and I'm only sharing it on air because that's what I do.
Totally transparent.
I almost, Chase Guys in the office next door.
I said, I almost said, get in there and do the show for a while.
I got to go lay down.
But you know what?
I didn't.
Decided to go on air.
And that's really it.
Is this just the Holy Spirit, God saying, hey, there's a lot of bad going on.
There's a lot of good, but we're in control.
God's in control.
The good people are going to be in control.
Things are going to turn around.
The tide's going to turn.
And I'm sure there'll be some other great evil that comes.
I'm not saying that some utopia is about to happen, but I just had a huge weightlifted off me.
I feel like a feather.
It's just crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Just light on your feet.
No more bioweapons incoming.
No more blowing up Trump's plane.
No more.
We're good.
jordan holmes
We're good.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Cool.
This is great.
I feel great.
dan friesen
What a relief.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, if it was me, right?
I would say maybe the worst thing to do if you're feeling so unusual that you only have a reference point from your childhood is maybe go on air and tell everybody all about it because you don't know what's going to happen on account of having no reference point.
dan friesen
And he's probably just hungry.
jordan holmes
Like, yeah, that actually doesn't happen.
dan friesen
Like, he said he didn't eat and he exercised and then he drank some coffee, some caffeine.
He's got a runner's eye.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got a runner's eye.
dan friesen
If what he's saying is true, he's probably just like his blood sugars.
jordan holmes
You need more oxygen.
Yeah, you need more oxygen in your bloodstream to get to your brain.
dan friesen
Or maybe God is in control and deserting.
jordan holmes
God smacked.
dan friesen
Yep.
That's the bank.
jordan holmes
For all the Vs that he's turned into B's in this one scenario, a B is correct and he's fucked it up.
dan friesen
Well, he's thinking of the band, Godsmack.
unidentified
I was thinking of the play, Godspelled.
dan friesen
I don't think he's thinking of any of this shit.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
Probably because he's too hungry.
So Tim Walz and JD Vance had a debate the night before.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And obviously, Vance won.
jordan holmes
Oh, by a mile.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so Alex talks about that a little bit.
And I really don't think he has much to say on this issue.
alex jones
Lock up your children.
Run for the hills, man.
It's here.
So that is a demon walking on two legs right there.
dan friesen
Walls.
Not that.
alex jones
So people saw it last night.
And they saw JD Vance up there calm and majestic and focused and decent and good.
And then they saw this pile of demons just up there wriggling and coiling and snapping and snarking.
So that's where we are.
And the pathetic moderators sniping at Vance and just all the lies.
I mean, I was this morning, I was trying to go over all these clips.
I've got so many clips it makes my head spin.
dan friesen
So many clips.
jordan holmes
So many clips.
dan friesen
I just don't feel like he has a lot of energy here.
You know, I don't think there's much enthusiasm for the debate because it's pretty boring for the most part.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is Vance one who gives a shit.
Walls is a demon.
If you have a debate between a demon and a human, is there really any chance the demon's going to come out ahead?
jordan holmes
I mean, first off, obviously, no.
But we're not dealing with a debate between a human and a demon.
We're dealing with a debate between a human and a pile of demons, perhaps wearing a human suit.
dan friesen
Slithering.
jordan holmes
So you don't know what they're all capable of together.
dan friesen
Right.
You're still losing a debate to a human.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, too many people talking at the same time.
dan friesen
If you have a pile of demons versus a human, I don't know if you really need to get into substance.
Like, I don't know if you need to get into what was said.
I think you got a pile of demons versus a human.
jordan holmes
This is the most anticlimactic all elections, I think, of my lifetime.
Everybody's gotten out all of their anxieties and stuff.
We're all just going through the motions now.
Like, what are we doing talking about a debate?
One of the guys wants to end democracy.
I mean, what is there to debate about his tax policies?
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
I do feel like everybody is going to do what they're going to do in terms of voting.
And as a collective group of people, we're like watching a roulette ball slammed.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
And that feels kind of bad, but the casino worker has thrown the ball.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, whatever it's going to be is going to be.
dan friesen
So anyway, at the debate, everything Tim Walz said was a lie.
jordan holmes
Oh, everything?
dan friesen
Everything.
Except, well, there's one thing.
Maybe some things that didn't look good for him were true.
Oh, okay.
But everything was a lie.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
It just went on and on.
And oh, no, no, no.
They don't kill babies after they're born.
They do it all the time.
A whole bunch of states have passed the law.
Was it 11, 12 states?
Where the baby pops out, it's at nine months.
That happens a lot of births.
Woman gets up on the deal about doing an abortion.
Baby pops out, eight and a half months old.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
alex jones
And in most of the cases, they're not ready to harvest its organs.
They just, because when they are at certain key hospitals, they take them and say, oh, your baby died, and they keep it alive.
And the orders come in for a few weeks, and they saying we ate the baby.
They take all of its organs, all its blood, and everything, and sell it to house better.
But in the cases all over the country, most of the time of the abortuaries, they're not ready for that.
They just take the baby and just, they just sell it as parts.
They don't even have the guts to kill it themselves because they know it's illegal what they're doing.
They'll set it on a shelf or put it in a refrigerator to freeze to death.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Everything I'm saying, just type it in.
Nurses at abortion clinic put babies in freezer live.
That's like a thing all over the country.
jordan holmes
Is that a show?
alex jones
Francisco, Austin, Texas, Kansas City, Chicago, New York.
Think I'm joking?
Everything I say here is from news articles, okay?
So I can play in Northam, how they keep the baby alive and then harvest its organs.
That was his job.
That's what he did before he was a governor.
You want to see that?
So he lied about that.
He lied about Minnesota not having a housing crisis and that illegals don't aren't the main cause of housing shortages, and then inflation's the reason they're so expensive and property tax.
So that was a big lie.
I mean, it was just at a certain point, when you know someone's a complete liar, what is the point of even analyzing all of it?
jordan holmes
Good question.
alex jones
That's my question.
I guess we should go over some of it.
You know, I was going to have some guests on today, but we've canceled those because I want to just be able to open the phones up throughout the full transmission.
And, you know, if Chase Geyser is really working hard back there, he has a great job.
If he wants to fire spaces up on Democrat debate disaster.
dan friesen
The Triple D 3D.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right.
dan friesen
All Alex wants to do here on this show is just do a space so he can talk shit with some other people on Twitter about the debate and how Tim Walz is a demon.
That's much more fun and way easier than doing the job and covering the issues.
But I will say that I very much relate with Alex's feelings there when he says that it sometimes feels pointless to even care what someone says when you know they're a huge liar.
That is a defining struggle of my professional career.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Obviously, Alex is wrong about the abortion and housing points he's trying to accuse Walls of lying about, but it doesn't really matter for the intended audience here.
It's not really all that interesting to see Alex have this position because it's exactly what you'd expect.
But the one thing that I found to be a little bit odd is that he did have to admit that the moderators were not lying about one thing they said about Vance.
alex jones
Everything said last night by them was a lie, except one thing.
JD Vance did attack Trump nine years ago And did drink the Kool-Aid only thing they said that was true was that, and Vance said, Yeah, it was wrong.
That's it.
They said one thing in two hours that was true.
And everything Vance said was true.
dan friesen
So it seems like this is something Alex could easily have just ignored.
If I were him, I would probably not want to validate this too much because it wasn't just that Vance said bad things about Trump nine years ago.
In the lead up to the 2016 election, he said that he was a quote never Trump guy and said Trump might be quote America's Hitler.
He called Trump an idiot and unfit for office.
After the Grab Him by the Pussy tape came out, Vance tweeted, quote, fellow Christians, everyone is watching us when we apologize for this man.
Lord help us.
The most recent revelation from this was a Washington Post piece that covered leaked private messages that Vance sent to a friend on Twitter.
These were from 2020 at the end of Trump's term saying, quote, Trump has just so thoroughly failed to deliver on his economic populism.
Another said, quote, I think Trump will probably lose.
In the messages, Vance implied that he'd been offered a job by Trump and said, quote, I've already turned down my appointment from the emperor.
That wasn't from nine years ago.
And it wasn't just a situation where Vance was wrong about something.
He had a brand he decided was a dead end.
So he decided to change fundamental things about himself to sell himself to Trump's fan base.
And this is ultimately why Alex has to acknowledge this one thing as truth that the moderators brought up.
It doesn't matter if Vance is a crass, calculating politician whose positions are only as sincere as some billionaire wants them to be.
All that matters is his subservience to Trump.
The fact that he was a never-Trump guy is a betrayal of the core tenant of this cult.
And it's painfully obvious and public that Vance was a self-professed never-Trump guy.
The goal is to create a positive image.
And by accepting this as reality, Alex is able to craft a prodigal son narrative out of this.
And in the end, it only reinforces the idea that Vance is that much more loyal to Trump.
So this is taking a negative and turning it into a positive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a religious testimonial story.
It is like, oh, I was blind.
I was having sex with women.
Oh, I was out there drinking.
Oh, I was an awful person.
But now I'm just here licking Trump's boot like the rest of us.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And if it's like some kind of, I had a holy revelation that changed my mind or something.
Well, why don't you criticize what was wrong with your religion when you said that God is watching when we apologize for Trump?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
What was lacking about your religiosity at the time?
What has changed?
jordan holmes
So I had read the Bible different.
And then I had a woke Bible.
dan friesen
Oh, that's the Bible was woke.
jordan holmes
And then I got the not woke Bible.
dan friesen
It was a Disney Bible.
jordan holmes
Trump bought me a Bible.
dan friesen
Trump signed Bible.
jordan holmes
I won't say he bought me a Bible.
I paid him about $6,000 for the Bible.
But he gave me the Bible.
Well, I paid for it, Bible.
He wasn't there.
I'm his vice president, but he still has never spoken to me.
dan friesen
It was a stamp of his autograph.
It wasn't really his autograph.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Still the same.
jordan holmes
It is like, why can't we all just pool our money together and buy Vance back?
Like, it's just cheap.
It's just cheap.
Let's just buy him away from, you know, like.
dan friesen
He's not an investment.
He's like buying InfoWars.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying.
These people are so cheap to purchase.
Let's just buy one.
dan friesen
So Walls, he did, there were a couple of points where he said things that were like, oh, God, he should have been more careful.
And of course, one of them is something that is latched onto by Alex.
alex jones
And you've got Walls saying he's Friends with a lot of school shooters.
Wow.
So let's go to the next clip.
Here's Tucker Carlson's comments on Wall saying he's friends with school shooters.
jordan holmes
Let's start with what I think is going to be the headline.
Tim Walz saying he's friends with school shooters.
alex jones
I've become friends with school shooters.
mike lee
Yeah, yeah.
Apparently, he's become great friends with school shooters.
I don't know what that means, but that was perhaps the greatest presidential or vice presidential debate flop in living memory.
dan friesen
So this was a flub, and if you hear the larger context, it's very clear that what he meant to say was he was friends with people whose lives have been affected by school shootings.
He mentions meeting the Sandy Hook family.
mike lee
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's very clear.
It's Walls' fault for misspeaking, but it's embarrassing for Alex and Tucker to pretend they don't understand what he's saying.
I know we haven't been perfect on this front, but this is one of the reasons we don't talk a ton about various idiotic things Trump says at his rallies.
Some of the time, not all the time, some of the time, people post shorter clips of Trump that actually do make sense in context, and they present it as if there is no context.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that kind of stuff I feel is a little bit low-hanging fruit sometimes.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just a waste of everybody's time.
dan friesen
And that's what they're doing.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But bigger picture, I don't think that this was the biggest presidential or vice presidential debate mishap in living memory.
Trump's last debate included him yelling about how Haitians were eating everyone's dogs in Ohio.
And in this very same debate, Vance whined about how the network had agreed not to fact-check him, which came off really weak.
jordan holmes
Nah, that came up great.
dan friesen
Beyond that, nothing probably will ever top Ross Perot's VP choice, Admiral Stockdale's disastrous 1992 debate performance.
He introduced himself by saying, Who am I?
Why am I here?
He was being fun and self-effacing, but the coverage of it was a huge blow to the Perot campaign.
They never recovered from.
And what about Michael Dukakis, who famously said that he would not support the death penalty in the theoretical case of his wife being raped and killed?
Like, it was a principled answer, but man, that did not play well in 1988.
jordan holmes
And then he had to get into a tank.
dan friesen
What about Biden's debate from earlier this year that more or less led to him stepping aside in the 2024 race?
I think that was a worse debate performance than Tim Walz' kind of bland showing.
jordan holmes
Do you mean the debate where he drank from the wrong cup and then aged rapidly within a span of 15 seconds?
dan friesen
I haven't seen behind the scenes footage, but whatever that is.
jordan holmes
Not the cup of the carpet.
dan friesen
I do think in this race, Walls' debate performance will not even rank compared to Biden, Trump yelling about eating dogs.
Like, there's a lot more that's been yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you want to pull out a deck of cards, this is the two.
This is the two of hearts, dude.
This is nowhere near the ace.
There's plenty of time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, you know, you got to make it interesting, and this just isn't interesting.
And so, Alex, I just, I feel no inspiration from him.
alex jones
All right.
Here is an extremely awkward moment for CBS News as Vance fact-checks the fact-checkers live on air.
jordan holmes
Who fact-checks?
margaret brennan
Just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status.
Well, Mark, but thank you, Senator.
We have so much to get to.
unidentified
Mark, I think it's important we're going to be able to do that.
margaret brennan
We're going to turn out of the economy.
Thank you.
unidentified
Margaret, the rules were that you got a fact-check.
And since you're fact-checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
So there's an application called the CBP OneApp, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand.
That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years.
Thank you, Senator.
margaret brennan
Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.
We have so much to get to, Senator.
alex jones
We have so much books since 1990.
margaret brennan
Thank you, gentlemen.
unidentified
This app has not been on the books.
It's since 1990.
It's something that Tom Law Harris created for her.
margaret brennan
Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.
We have so much we want to get to.
Thank you for explaining the legal process.
alex jones
Dear in the headlights, those so-called reporters, those paid prostitutes, those shills, those mercenaries.
dan friesen
So what Vance is saying is based on something real, but he's a lying, hate-mongering piece of shit all the same.
As Walls points out there, the laws that govern what Vance is talking about have been on the books forever.
And what Vance is really talking about is technological advancement.
Whereas before you might have had to file certain forms in person, there's now an app that can handle people seeking to get various services from the Office of Customs and Border Protection.
This isn't an app that just allows anyone immediate legal status.
It's just a scheduling app.
People use it to request appointments at one of eight CBP centers in three different states.
And it's only for people in Mexico trying to get an appointment at a point of entry.
Also, the app wasn't created by Harris or Biden's administrations.
It was launched during Trump's time in office.
This is all a load of shit, but it's important to understand why a narrative like this is important for folks like Alex and Vance.
They've tried to whip people into a hysterical frenzy targeting the Haitian population in Springfield, Ohio.
This has been done under the illusion that the problem they have with these Haitian people is that they're illegal immigrants.
But as it turns out, most of them are.
Most of them are there entirely legally.
So the whole if they were here legally, it would be fine facade is threatened by that piece of information.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex and Vance's problem is that they're not white and they don't want to accept them into this country.
But it's important to pretend that that isn't the case and that there's some other better sounding reason for targeting these people.
And the first step is insisting that they're here illegally.
When that falls apart, someone like Vance doesn't say, oh, I guess they're here legally, so I don't have a problem with it after all.
unidentified
Whoops.
dan friesen
They still have a problem because the being here legally thing was a fake problem that they were pretending to have for respectability's sake.
Their actual problem, inherent bigotry, is still there and it still needs to be rationalized.
So the new rationalization is that they aren't really legal residents.
They're exploiting a Harris loophole.
So even if the law says that they are legal residents, they're actually here illegally.
This is an attempt to save face on the fact that they were wrong, but also it's an attempt to move the football downfield.
This is an attempt to invalidate all people who come here and have legal status because even if they are residents legally, maybe they cheated the system.
How can you really tell?
This is about expanding.
I imagine eventually that is what they sit down to.
It's about expanding the group that is considered the other, the acceptable other out group, including people who are here legally because those people are also the targets of Trump's border agenda.
Like the whole people are here illegally or whatever is an illusion that they're using to make people more comfortable with what they're actually pushing for.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's important to note that they've spent 30 years convincing idiotic press that that's the real issue that we should be talking about is how they would be fine if legal immigration weren't so easy.
We would love immigration.
Thank you, Press, for spending 30 years talking about that and only now just realizing that you're a waste of our time.
dan friesen
So one of the big things that Alex is very excited about is whereas Trump doesn't really talk about how there are 300,000 children missing who have come over the border, who are obviously being trafficked, right?
unidentified
I mean, that's so many traffic doesn't talk about that.
dan friesen
But Vance did bring it up, which Alex is pretty excited about.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
So you've got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of these children that they know of that were in their hands that they turned loose, not to mention the ones they never made contact with, just like the 400 and something thousand criminals.
And the Border Patrol will tell you that most of them never even turn themselves in because they're criminals.
You don't even know how bad it is.
25 million is the number we know total that have come in, but over a million criminals is conservative.
That's a dead reckoning.
We're just guessing from our sources.
jordan holmes
But they say at least you are just guessing.
alex jones
The last three and a half years, criminals, almost four years now.
So you've got all that going on, and the NGO's signing them up, and whistleblowers releasing 8,000 to 325,000 names.
And they don't knock on doors in almost every case.
I don't know.
I had the kid two days and gave it to somebody.
Well, who?
I'm not going to tell you, slam the door.
Does anybody feel safe while human trafficking of this magnitude is going on?
dan friesen
So this is a real cornerstone of how Alex allows himself to pretend to be a good person while supporting horrible policies.
He argues that there are hundreds of thousands of children who have come across the border that the government promptly loses because they're just being brought here for human trafficking purposes and the government's complicit.
This is all bullshit, though.
Alex is referring to a popular right-wing talking point that the Biden administration has lost over 300,000 unaccompanied minors who crossed the border.
It's something that Vance said at the debate, and Alex is furious that Trump won't attack Harris Harder with.
However, the number is not in reference to lost children.
There were 448,820 unaccompanied children admitted to the United States between October 2018 and September 2023.
And the 300,000 stat is in reference to 291,000 of them never receiving a notice to appear in court for a hearing.
These people are not necessarily missing.
They've not been contacted for whatever reason.
Probably because there's a backlog of cases and bureaucracy moves slow.
There were, in the same report, 32,000 children who received notice to appear and then didn't go to court.
But it's important to recognize the context that the AP provides, which is that, quote, they only get a notice to appear when removal proceedings against them have begun.
And that probably explains most of the 291,000 who have never been contacted because those proceedings have never started.
And even the 32,000 that got contacted and didn't appear, there are issues of did you have the right address?
There's all kinds of things that those are not necessarily all missing children.
The entire premise that Alex is basing his argument on is a lie.
And that's not even taking into account that the numbers that this is all based on start in October 2018.
So it includes quite a bit of Trump's presidency.
Basically, it goes like this.
When unaccompanied minors arrive at the border, they're handed off from ICE to the Department of Health and Human Services, specifically the Office of Refugee Resettlement.
The ORR handles housing of the children while they try to place them with a family member or an approved sponsor.
While the children are being housed by the ORR, sometimes there are removal proceedings begun against them, which is handled by ICE.
ICE did not contact those 291,000 children because they didn't begin removal proceedings.
And in the 32,000 cases where they did and the children didn't appear in court, it's not necessarily because the children had disappeared.
It's just as likely that ICE was just not cooperating with other agencies and it sent notices to the wrong place.
From the Inspector General's report about this, quote, an HHS official we interviewed said despite the new process for increased coordination between ICE and HHS, ICE did not coordinate when unaccompanied children in the local area did not appear for court hearings.
HHS officials stated they would like to collaborate more with DHS locally to help unaccompanied children.
ICE is a government body based on enforcement, and they do deportations.
They don't know where these children are because it's not in their mandate to monitor them once they're handed over to HHS.
And because they cooperate insufficiently with HHS to get the information that they need in so many cases, you have numbers like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when you base an organization off of cruelty, the bureaucratic record keeping isn't really their forte.
They don't hire people based upon their bookkeeping systems.
dan friesen
But even if they did, they couldn't.
It's not part of what they're doing.
These are two different departments.
The lack of information on ICE's part has been transformed into hundreds of thousands of missing children, all part of an elaborate human smuggling operation that Kamala Harris is running, either to get rich or maybe to get votes or the devil or something.
I don't know.
Come up with your own explanation.
But here is the hidden game that's being played.
What's the solution to the problem if you're on Alex's side of the fence?
The problem is that these 300,000 kids are missing, which translates in the real world to them not having been contacted by ICE.
The solution is obviously for all these kids to be contacted by ICE, which means that removal proceedings would be opened for all of them.
This is the real goal: pushing for immediate deportation processes to be enacted for everyone who comes to the United States using pretend concern about human trafficking as an emotional justification.
That's what's underneath this.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And I mean, the luxury of it is that if you wanted that to happen, you would have to fund and speed up all of the abilities to do things at the border, which they don't want to do because by creating a backlog like this, you create situations like this where you can grandstand.
And then these will spiral out of control without you ever actually doing anything about it.
Well, let's just use it to get votes.
dan friesen
But that's why Trump needs to let there be one real tough hour.
jordan holmes
One tough.
I think the purge is actually.
I'm fine with that.
This is the first time I've ever agreed with Trump.
I think the cops should be allowed to murder us all for no reason for an hour, once a year.
Once a month?
Why not once a night?
dan friesen
Think about the problems it would solve.
jordan holmes
So many problems.
If all of the cops would just run through my neighborhood for an hour, just beating the shit out of people, why not murder?
Who cares?
dan friesen
Uh-oh, Jordan, it's 10 till a really tough hour.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh, I better go inside and get in my purge hole.
dan friesen
Right, but you better go to the panic room because the cops during that rough hour can kick down doors roughly.
jordan holmes
No, you got to have a metal reinforced door because they've got little battering rams now, too.
You can't trust the cops.
They've got an hour to beat people to death with.
dan friesen
Tough hour.
jordan holmes
I think VP debates need to just have dunk tanks.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Dunk tanks.
Nothing they say means anything.
Shut the fuck up and toss them into water.
dan friesen
But you know why that would be great?
I bet Tim Walz would have a great time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he would have a great time.
He'd have a fun, he'd have fun with it.
Yeah.
He'd be like, what's the next question I can lie about?
And then you'll dunk me.
unidentified
Wee!
dan friesen
Vance would be furious.
jordan holmes
Oh, it'd be fucking awful.
The people who need to be humiliated would hate it.
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex plays a little clip from Twitter here, and then he's trying to rationalize in his own head why Vance is talking more about these alleged missing children than Trump.
Trump's not doing enough.
unidentified
This is outrageous.
And people are thinking about who they're voting for.
You have complicit a president, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris running for president who purposely and knowingly know the children are being sex trafficked in thousands and thousands.
alex jones
That ex-post this morning, when I saw it, has a couple hundred thousand views.
It needs 50 million views.
It's on Real Alex Jones.
Get it.
Share it.
We're very close to forcing this to be the number one issue.
And it is right for the children.
It's the right thing to do.
And it is coffin nails to the deep state.
So it defeats the enemy.
Trump needs to pledge to try to find the children and say he's going to prosecute the people that were involved in this.
unidentified
I'm waiting.
alex jones
I know full well Trump's been told this, and he goes halfway, and I know why.
They're like, sir, that sounds too dark.
People just can't believe it.
We recommend you stay positive, sir.
No, it's positive to admit this is going on.
dan friesen
Trump has absolutely talked about there being thousands of missing kids, but Alex knows that he's not quite extreme enough on the issue.
Trump wants to use it as a campaign issue, so he can't go quite as far as Alex without it backfiring.
So he just kind of dances around this.
But I think it's really funny that Alex is expecting the audience to believe that Trump is some kind of crusading champion against the literal devil, but he doesn't want to talk about missing children because it would bum people out too much.
He got shot at and then he stood up and yelled, fight, fight, fight.
But he doesn't want to bump people out.
jordan holmes
It's bad politics.
Listen, I mean, if there's one lesson to learn from Jesus, it's don't rock the boat.
You'll get fucking killed.
These people are nuts out there.
Right.
Be the happy Jesus.
Be the Jesus.
It's like, hey, I'll hear your eyes.
dan friesen
Which I got to say, Trump is crushing just doing good vibes.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Like, you watch one of his speeches, and it's just...
jordan holmes
It's the Sermon on the Mount over and over and over, a banger every time.
dan friesen
But all positivity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Nothing that's one hour a day where the cops murder everybody.
dan friesen
Fucking idiot.
So Alex is talking about this, you know, the human smuggling operations and what have you.
And of course, he remembers that his uncle was involved in Iran-Contra and then got out because of the human smuggling.
jordan holmes
Because of the human smuggling.
dan friesen
And Alex, I get his whole story on that.
But he supports Iran-Contra, apparently.
What?
I've never heard him explicitly say this.
Yeah.
alex jones
And I've had family tell me about this, and they didn't do the stuff with kids.
They never did any of that kind of stuff.
But, you know, you're a helicopter pilot, special operations, highly decorated.
You're in Vietnam.
You're in Laos.
And you get an order.
Hey, we want you to fly in these shipments here and do this.
And by the way, it's opium.
And most people just follow the order.
Well, I'm sure there's some reason for it.
And then when you do that, then you start to learn, well, now we want you to do this.
Now we want you to do that.
Now we want you to.
And a decade later, well, you're in charge of building airfields in Central and South America.
And then one day you see a bunch of little kids getting loaded on a jet and you say, where are those kids going?
None of your business.
Well, excuse me, that's not what we're doing, and we're fighting communists.
We ship cocaine out and we ship guns in.
It's one thing to do that to be communist.
unidentified
It just fights means, but where are the kids going?
alex jones
Well, you keep your mouth shut.
That's where they go.
And then you speak up and you fight it.
And then they try to kill you.
So that's what the, I don't need to read this in a book.
I was told this by my uncle.
dan friesen
So just to be clear, Alex is saying that the ends justified the means in the Iran-Contra scandal.
In the name of fighting communism, it's okay for government officials to sell weapons to Iran while they're under an embargo in order to raise money to fund anti-communist militant groups in Nicaragua.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
This is an absolutely insane thing for Alex to pretend he believes.
I don't think that this kind of angle matches up well with America-first type ideas.
Also, doesn't Alex hate the CIA?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
This is ridiculous.
I love the idea.
I love it.
I personally love the idea of a guy in charge of an airfield where they fucking sell murder weapons to a government that's under embargo and then sell cocaine and then do all of this stuff being like, whoa, I think I have a moral issue here.
I think it's time for me to step up and really this is, guys, guys, hey, listen.
Obviously, all of the murder that we do and facilitating all the horrible shit we facilitated.
dan friesen
You must do it to fight communism.
jordan holmes
Murder, all of it.
That's us.
We do that.
But not to the kids, man.
Think about the children.
dan friesen
It's a little silly as an idea.
I don't know if I believe any of the stuff that Alex says, but when he's expressing something, it's a position.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the position that he's taking here is stupid.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Like, he is missing the forest for the trees by supporting the Iran-Contract fan.
jordan holmes
The lengths you have to go to wave away Iran contract.
Well, I mean, obviously, it's better than trafficking children.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I mean, well, I guess Iran-Contra is better than trafficking children.
dan friesen
What if Bush did 9-11 in order to fight communism?
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, I mean, that's okay.
Yeah, sure.
Well, you got to do it.
We got to do that.
You got to do a 9-11 to fight communism.
All right.
If it's communism at the door, you do a 9-11.
That's just math.
dan friesen
I mean, Alex, I probably would support that.
Anyway, he starts to get lost in thought, and he talks a little bit about the abortions that he's had in his life.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
And he does a little fake cry.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
I had my children chopped up and thrown in a trash can.
And I repent of that, but I still have nightmares about it and just feel terrible.
And I didn't understand it.
And I thought they were, you know, oh, it's not really a human being.
Why did you chop me up and throw me in a month or so?
Abortions, but that doesn't make it any better.
And I was young and I was stupid.
And my dad, one time, when I was 18, about to move out, was in my room and just saw the receipt for the clinic.
jordan holmes
So this is to pay for an abortion.
alex jones
He came at me with tears in his eyes.
I told the story many times.
He said, I want you out of this house now.
I want you out this weekend.
I said, why?
He said, well, I was arguing about it a few months.
He goes, just get out of here.
And he goes, and if you continue to act like this, I'm going to disown you and I don't want to ever see you again.
I go, what have I done?
And he started tearing me.
He goes, you're murdering my grandchildren.
And out of that process, months later, I just started thinking about it.
And I was just like, oh, my God.
And now I look at my four children, and I would snap my fingers and die to save them.
I wouldn't even think about it.
If I had to save one of my kids and they said, put yourself feet first in a wood chepber, I would jump into it instantly.
No thought.
I would give everything for them.
jordan holmes
Don't take them fishing, though.
alex jones
I would do anything.
And I just can't imagine what those children would be like today.
I mean, I would have children that were like 33, 34 years old, 32 years old.
Sons, daughters.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
And I just chopped them up and threw them in a trash can.
So don't ever think that if you've done evil stuff, that God can't forgive you.
And that God won't then use you to make it right and fight evil.
dan friesen
So we've heard Alex talk about this stuff before, but I decided to include this clip because this version of his dad confronting him is a little different than the times he's told this story in the past.
This version is a bit more dramatized and includes threats of disowning and a lot of fake tears.
Alex's take on this whole thing is interesting, though, because I believe that he thinks that God can forgive him.
But it seems like the idea of forgiving himself is a foreign concept.
It's almost like instead of allowing himself to heal and make peace with his own decisions, he's created a situation where his only value is to be used by a deity in a series of painful trials to earn the redemption that he's supposed to already have.
This seems torturous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Real worship the devil kind of way to get to heaven.
That kind of thing.
dan friesen
Does the devil provide euphoria?
jordan holmes
Let me ask you a question.
Why has he got that receipt for the abortion?
What's he keeping that?
Is he looking to get reimbursed?
dan friesen
Are you going to jump into a Mitch Hedberg bit here?
jordan holmes
No, I'm just asking if there's a tax write-off or something.
Why are you keeping the receipt for that abortion?
dan friesen
I give you the money, you give me the abortion.
You do not need to bring pen and paper into this.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, I get why they would give it to him.
They have to have records and stuff.
Why is he keeping it?
Was it in his wallet?
Is it like a ticket stuff from a first date?
dan friesen
His dad was doing his laundry.
Who knows?
Anyway, you remember a little bit back, there was that big Ebola outbreak in Colorado.
jordan holmes
I do recall.
dan friesen
Yeah, we all narrowly survived that.
Society almost collapsed entirely.
As it turns out, there's another outbreak that's probably happening.
alex jones
Running it up again.
We have massive breaking news 33 days out from the election that we knew was coming.
They have pre-programmed and hyped up bird flu that's not in humans and said it was, and it got emergency authorization for new poison MRA shots.
They've hyped up the monkeypox that is literally 99.9% in homosexual men that do things that are just you don't want to hear about.
And they've been hyping Marburg that's hemorrhagic fever.
It makes you basically super Ebola.
And now this, BBC, they're all reporting it.
Hamburg station virus scare on high-speed train.
Major train station in Germany stormed by police amid deadly virus fears.
Major travel warning issued as eight people die from incurable virus similar to Ebola.
So it appears that they are now launching a Marburg scare.
You heard me right.
We'll put the article's HD up on screen.
dan friesen
This is big news.
So in Hamburg, a train platform was briefly closed out of an abundance of caution because someone got sick on the train.
Normally, this wouldn't happen if someone just got sick, but the person was a medical student who had just returned from Rwanda where he was providing medical care for people there.
One of the patients he'd seen while he was there had developed Marburg, so he was monitoring his health conditions closely.
This guy began to feel flu-type symptoms on the train, so he knew to take it seriously and reported it to authorities on scene.
The guy didn't end up experiencing the kind of symptoms you'd expect with Marburg, and he tested negative for the virus, as did his girlfriend.
So this was all a false alarm.
Even if it was a false alarm, the response was exactly what it should have been.
And it seems really heartening how it played out.
There was a strong, rapid response to the potential danger, but it didn't result in public hysteria.
If anything, this is a demonstration of a functioning public health response.
But I guess Alex can see through the bullshit and how it's secretly just a next time on type trailer for the globalist next silly virus plan.
So that's.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, responding appropriately to something is only possible if you were the one who planned it.
And if you were the one who planned it and you responded appropriately, that means you're only lulling us into a false sense of security.
So when you pull off the next one, we'll think, oh, we're going to get help.
Well, guess what?
It's not fucking coming.
Hamburg.
dan friesen
Also, the way Alex reads those headlines and reports this story kind of makes it seem reasonable to assume that eight people died in Hamburg.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's exactly what he made it sound alike.
dan friesen
And that's not true.
No.
Those in Rwanda.
Sure.
So Alex thinks that this whole thing was staged, honestly.
jordan holmes
Which whole thing?
dan friesen
The guy on the train.
jordan holmes
The guy, okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, that Hamburg situation is fake.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
A high-speed ICE train in Hamburg had traveled from Frankfurt.
A station platform has been cordoned on Hamburg Central Station in northern Germany.
Amid fears that a train passenger may have been carrying a dangerous virus with the borders totally wide open.
A fire department spokesman told Bill Tabloyd that the man and his girlfriend had developed a flu-like symptom on a high-speed train from Frankfurt.
This just sounds like totally staged.
dan friesen
So why does this sound staged to Alex?
What is it?
Like, what details is he singling out that really makes him think that this was fake?
He claims a lot of things are staged, and he's pretty much always wrong, but I want to know what in that story he's actually basing that suspicion on.
What is it?
He seems to be responding to the idea that a man and his girlfriend got sick on a train, which seems like a very normal thing that could happen in real life.
This response to a couple getting sick on a train seems a bit severe, except that there were medical students who were recently in Rwanda, so they knew to take possible symptoms seriously and not just assume like it's motion sickness.
This doesn't seem suspicious if you have all the details.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
When Alex says this sounds staged, what he means is that it's convenient for his narratives to pretend that this was staged.
So that's how he's going to behave.
jordan holmes
It helps.
I mean, I would say that anything that happens on a high-speed train, that's the best place to stage things.
dan friesen
It's always more suspicious.
The stakes are elevated when you're on a train.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because you're moving so fast.
dan friesen
Right.
That's why I think that a lot of, you know what?
As I say this, I don't know if a lot of murder mysteries take place on trains.
jordan holmes
We've all got the one big one.
The Orient Express one.
Yes, we've all got that.
And then we've all got the parodies, but there really aren't that many that are actually said on trains.
dan friesen
There might not be.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So also, it's pretty clear that Alex hasn't read this story before he's going on air because he does that little aside where he points out that the borders are wide open.
He's trying to frame the story as an immigrant coming into Germany being the one carrying the possible virus because that plays into his other xenophobic narrative priorities.
But if he actually had the details in advance, you would know that this was not an immigrant.
jordan holmes
Absurd.
dan friesen
Not an immigrant.
unidentified
Absurd.
dan friesen
So the big thing that Alex wanted to do on this episode, like I said, was go to calls.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because he wants to talk shit.
jordan holmes
Wants to talk shit?
The guests, they fucking get out of here, guests.
We don't even want you today.
dan friesen
I have to talk about piles of demons.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And so he goes to some calls, and they're about as good as you might expect.
unidentified
Okay.
I've got some important news for you.
You have to do a little search and search the title of the Constitution of Jamaica.
Are you there?
Yes, sir.
alex jones
Okay.
unidentified
Section 3C.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
unidentified
Well, Kamala Harris was born a Jamaican citizen through birthright citizenship.
That's what the Constitution states.
So, you know, take it from there.
She's possible to be a president of the United States.
alex jones
Well, you know, they're doing this all the time to train us to accept foreigners running our lives.
All over the country, started in New Mexico 10 years ago.
They are hiring illegal aliens that are literally here illegally in sanctuary cities to be police, like Minnesota's now hired two last week.
So, yeah, that's what this is all about, rubbing our noses at it.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
I mean, you know, I mean, you know, it's the whole communist thing.
You know, they don't even regard our Constitution, you know, natural-born citizenship clause.
We have only a natural-born citizen, but she was actually born a Jamaican citizen at the time of her, to her father.
dan friesen
Harris was born in Oakland, California.
jordan holmes
My God.
dan friesen
This guy's a real idiot.
And they're kind of bending over backwards to justify their desire to not have a black president.
In that pursuit, they are essentially admitting that the Jamaican Constitution supersedes the American one if they want it to in a particular situation.
Yeah, yeah, Constitution of Jamaica offers citizenship to people who were born to parents who are citizens regardless of where they're born.
Great.
Harris's mom was born in India, and their Constitution confers citizenship to people whose parents were born there, too.
Who gives a shit?
Having these citizenships offered to you and actually being a citizen of those countries are two entirely different things.
And this isn't a sincere complaint that the caller or Alex is expressing.
This is just birtherism all over again.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is pathetic.
jordan holmes
Get at the moment I hear Constitution of Jamaica.
Go, go, get out.
Get out, sir.
dan friesen
Well, little do you know.
jordan holmes
Get guah!
dan friesen
That guy only knows that because he was sitting down for some light reading.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And decides to break out the Constitution of Jamaica.
jordan holmes
Obviously, like we all do from time to time.
dan friesen
Right?
You haven't heard crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
None of that sounds suspicious whatsoever.
Like, he's gone so far out of his way to find some reason to hate this woman that isn't just the color of her skin, that he wound up at the Constitution of Jamaica.
Sure, that would be reasonable to think that, but that's crazy.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So we get another caller who's also pretty cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Clown car in New York.
Thanks for holding her on the ear.
unidentified
Hey, what's up, Alex?
How did everybody miss the fact that Coach Tampon said something about a 12-year-old girl getting raped, had full name, where she lived?
Like, isn't that criminal in some way to publicly use that for political gain?
You know, like the level of disregard for just the little girl herself.
Like, what's up?
alex jones
Like, well, it's probably all lies, anyways.
I mean, Tampon Tim is a big liar.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
alex jones
What did you make of the debate last night?
I thought Vance dominated.
unidentified
I mean, look, overall, when they go back and forth with each other, it sounds like bickering.
Like, they're literally in high school.
I could just imagine what them kids in high school are calling him, Coach Tampon.
You know what I mean?
alex jones
Absolutely, brother.
unidentified
He's over here defending women's rights, and yet he takes this little girl, just says a name where she lives, that she had an abortion, she was raped, all this stuff.
Like, what's wrong with this guy?
alex jones
But it also turns out those stories he told weren't true.
jordan holmes
Got him coming and going.
unidentified
Who's going to fact-check that?
Can you fact-check that?
alex jones
We did.
Oh, and it's not true.
Basically, nothing he said was true.
dan friesen
So it might be illegal to publicize the details about a private person without their consent.
But in this case, the person that Tim Walz was talking about is a well-known reproductive rights activist named Hadley Duvall.
She's not 12 years old now, and she spoke at the DNC and has appeared in a Harris ad.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is definitely who Alex and this call are talking about.
And Alex has just committed possible defamation against her by claiming that he and Owen looked into her story and found that it was not true.
I'm not going to get into the specifics here, but what Alex is doing is fucking disgusting.
There's another woman that Walls used the name of during this part of the debate, which was Amanda Zorowski, who's a woman from Texas who was denied an abortion after her water broke at 18 weeks.
She ended up having a bunch of life-threatening complications and ended up with damage to her fallopian tubes.
She's also a public figure and the name plaintiff in a lawsuit against the state of Texas.
So it's not criminal to reference her name.
These people are fucking assholes.
At least this caller seems to be coming from a place of misplaced concern.
Because at least he, in theory, doesn't want this person's name who has gone through this to be made public.
Sure.
But she's an advocate.
She's a public person.
And what Alex is doing is saying, I looked into it.
It's all not true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He should be sued for that.
I mean, at this point, it's redundant.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
Enjoy.
dan friesen
That action is defamatory.
jordan holmes
Sure, but I mean, yeah, but he's proven that that's not, that's fine.
I mean, I would not take a defamation law seriously for the rest of my life.
dan friesen
Sure.
I'm not concerned.
Like, I just think it speaks more to him, you know, like his behavior than it does, like, oh, here's an opening where he could be sued.
Yeah.
Because obviously, you know, it's an imperfect system.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But his behavior is acting in a way that is essentially slanderous towards someone who is a survivor of something.
He's invalidating her entire story and saying that she is a liar about this traumatic system.
jordan holmes
That's awful.
Somebody should do something about that.
I don't think they will.
dan friesen
So we have one more clip here from the second.
And it's discussing the old hurricanes that are going on.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
But here's more of the high-tech systems where they use electromagnetic radiation to ionize the storms and make them stronger or weaker or steer them.
United States patent application number US2003 forward slash 0085296AI published 2003, May 8th.
See all that information right there?
And it goes through all of it right here.
Now, this is what Doppler's able to do.
dan friesen
So this is just embarrassing.
Alex has found someone posting on social media about this patent application from 2003 that proposes a machine that can control hurricanes and tornadoes.
But these machines were never made and everyone agrees they wouldn't work.
You can file a patent for whatever you want.
It does not mean that you can make that thing or if it's even real.
For instance, in 2006, a guy named Alexander Belonkin filed a patent for the quote method of recording and saving of human souls for human immortality and installation for it.
jordan holmes
All right.
I've listened.
dan friesen
He has diagrams.
jordan holmes
I'm listening.
dan friesen
It's like a little circle and it says memories.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Motion.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And then there's lines that go to computer chips.
jordan holmes
I'm in.
I am in.
100%.
dan friesen
And then there's another little circle that says battery.
jordan holmes
This man needs seed money.
Not your jokes and japes.
This man needs our support.
dan friesen
In 2010, some guy patented bird-like wings for human flight.
In 2004, someone patented a full-body teleportation system.
jordan holmes
Like it.
dan friesen
This shit's so dumb, but I guess if you have to deny climate change somehow, you can do worse than pretending magic patents are real.
But this is just like, for someone like Alex, who's like, I'm in the duck.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm in the weeds.
This is pathetic.
jordan holmes
I remember Sean Connery using this one.
I think this was the weather website.
Yeah, and the Avengers.
I think that was this one.
dan friesen
Yep.
So we jump to the third.
And Alex, it starts off.
The show starts off with something that I thought was like, oh my God, what the fuck are they doing?
kamala harris
Hi, I'm Kamala Harris.
When I'm elected president, platforms that promote free speech, truth, and resilience to the new world order, like thealexjonesstore.com, will be banned.
Sites that profit off dangerous truths are a threat to our democracy.
Shirts sold at the alexjonstore.com, like the Infowars Limited Edition fundraiser t-shirt, will no longer be tolerated.
dan friesen
If you're Alex, you can't do this.
You can't do AI voice shit with your enemies.
You can't blur that line.
Yeah.
Because it is not unthinkable for Alex to claim that Kamala Harris is going to shut down his shirt store.
jordan holmes
No, it's 100% reasonable.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is something that exists within the reality of Alex's.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He can't blur that line because when he does, the floodgates are open.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, it's bad.
I think it's bad for more for him.
You know, and as much as I understand the eventual coming death of reality at the hands of AI deepfakes and yada yada yada and all that stuff, that death is probably more damaging at this point in time to his psyche because when we ask the question, like, does he know what he's lying about?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, I think there was a time where he was more aware of when he was lying.
Right.
Now we're in a zone where it's like anything could be real.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that it's dangerous for him, and it also is against whatever the ethos is supposed to be of what he's doing.
And I find that to be troubling.
But when you have the Klaus Schwab doing parody songs, that's absurd.
Yeah.
And that is to a level where it's like, Klaus Schwab didn't record We Wish You a Merry Vaccine or whatever the fuck.
I wish he did.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He didn't do that.
jordan holmes
He didn't.
dan friesen
It's not believable.
And so there's a little bit where it's like, ah, all right, whatever.
This is within the realm of possibility as something that could be reported on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's real dangerous.
jordan holmes
If you were trapped in his reality already, fuck, you're screwed.
unidentified
You are done.
dan friesen
After he plays this clip, which is just basically an ad for his store, he does say, this isn't real.
Kamala didn't say, which is great.
I guess it does not justify the doing of it.
jordan holmes
You're supposed to be pro-humanity, bro.
I mean, at the end of the day, you can't be using AI to program fake voice versions of your enemy, even if they are not human, because that is against the human spirit.
It should be.
You can't use the devil's tools to defeat the devil.
That's literally the rule.
dan friesen
Maybe that is what Alex is doing, though.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Or maybe he thinks that's what he's doing, but he's actually serving that old scratch.
jordan holmes
Old scratch, old scratch fever.
dan friesen
So speaking of things that are not in the interest of humans, Alex has a bit of a conspiracy going about the hurricane.
All right.
And that is that Kamala Harris is using it to stop the election.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
But let's go ahead and run through the hurricane news here.
Helena.
jordan holmes
This is the past hurricane, the previous hurricane, as compared to the one happening now.
Right.
alex jones
So this big storm races up the west coast of Florida, goes over the panhandle, and then just dumps.
And we've shown you that track.
Everybody knows what happened.
And there are tens of millions still without power.
There are rural areas totally smashed, mudslides, roads blocked, hundreds of hundreds of dead.
They're thinking they might go into the much higher because people can't even get into these areas.
Citizens and their pickup trucks try to get in, and FEMA is in control and ordering local fire departments, who should disregard it, many are, to not let them in.
Meanwhile, they're catching illegal aliens everywhere, robbing the daylights out of everybody and looting.
They haven't arrested that I've seen any American citizens doing it.
I'll give you a little idea of what we're talking about here.
But regardless, there is a horribly anemic response.
They've waited over a week to do anything.
And this is just perfect timing where this hurricane went and what happened.
And the federal government since 1967, declassified 16 years ago, can create hurricanes, steer hurricanes, make them stronger, make them weaker.
A lot of meteorologists and others have looked at the radar path and scans of the storm and say it has all the signs of being heavily manipulated.
dan friesen
So the general conspiracy that Alex is putting forth is that the globalists caused this hurricane in order to cause a bunch of damage, which would then make it impossible for these people to vote in rural areas that were more likely to vote for Trump.
They used a weather weapon to steal the election, basically.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is really stupid.
And if it were true that these villains have this level of power, it's kind of dumb to do this over a month out from the election.
If I were them, I would have done it a bit closer to election day, maximize the potential for disruption.
jordan holmes
I mean, it makes sense.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex has to work with whatever he can.
You know, he's not really writing the story.
He's sort of improvising along the way.
jordan holmes
I would give anything for weather weapons to be real right now.
Because, I mean, you know, it's like there's a certain amount of the COVID stuff where it's like, if people are in control of it, you know, there's something comforting about, sure, there's evil people killing everybody, but that somebody's in control.
That is a comforting thought.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The idea that these hurricanes are just going to increase in frequency and power and forever and unpredictability forever at no one's control at complete random because of a consequence of the shit that we have done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And nobody's trying to fix it or stop it is fucking crazy.
I would give anything for this to be somebody under somebody's control.
dan friesen
And that's part of the sales pitch of why Alex's worldview is appealing to a lot of people.
james okeefe
Totally.
dan friesen
Because what you are expressing is quieted.
Whatever it is, at least there's somebody.
jordan holmes
At any moment, a fucking hurricane can start now.
And it doesn't matter if it's in a place where you thought, oh, there's no way a hurricane, if you planned ahead for a hurricane hitting you by living in the middle of fucking Death Valley, God knows there might be a goddamn hurricane.
dan friesen
Well, and the other thing, too, is that like if there is somebody in charge and causing all of this, then there's an off switch.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, there's an eventual point where we can say, all right, we stopped Klaus Schwab, and now no one will control hurricanes anymore.
jordan holmes
Two seconds to go on the timer.
Right.
dan friesen
That illusion is maintained when there's the villain who's doing everything.
Also, Alex's narrative about only immigrants looting is just an expression of his white nationalist leanings.
He saw a story about eight migrant workers who got arrested for looting and then just decided those were the only arrests because those are the only stories that all the racist accounts he follows on Twitter were posting about.
Surely if there were other cases, these racist Twitter accounts would post about them too.
jordan holmes
Obviously, they're both sides.
They like to make sure that everybody sees it.
unidentified
And their problem is the looting, not the migrant part.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they would care about those small business owners.
dan friesen
A man in Asheville was arrested for trying to loot a store and attempted to flee on a stolen motorcycle.
At least 11 people were arrested for looting various businesses in Augusta, Georgia.
None of this is stuff that Alex is even touching on.
He tells the story that he wants to tell, which is a story that demonized migrants.
All of his information comes from dipshit social media accounts that tell the same story back to him, which he then uses as the basis for his reporting.
It's circular, self-reinforcing bigotry, and it's pretty clear.
It's easy to see through.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I told you there was a big guest.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's right.
dan friesen
Now, I want to try and see if you can guess who this is.
jordan holmes
You were being facetious, so I have to remember that my excitement is unearned.
Yes.
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, here's how I would describe this person.
They are famous.
jordan holmes
Shrill?
dan friesen
No.
Famous, but it's not a surprise they're on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But famous.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Kind of a punchline.
jordan holmes
Kevin Sorbo?
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yes!
This is the first time I've nailed it.
This is the first time.
I did it.
I did it.
End the show.
unidentified
End it now.
dan friesen
We got to go.
jordan holmes
End it now.
dan friesen
We got to go.
That was impressive.
jordan holmes
I felt the spirit.
Famous.
dan friesen
Not surprising he's on Alex's show and kind of a punchline.
Got you to Kevin Sorbo.
jordan holmes
That'll get you there.
dan friesen
So anyway, he's on, and Alex thanks him for taking time out of his very busy schedule.
alex jones
I interviewed over a decade ago Kevin Sorbo.
He, of course, has been a top TV actor, movie star, you name it.
And since then, had all these huge hit Christian films, you name it.
He's got SorboStudios.com.
Been a fan of him since I was a teenager, watching him on Hercules.
And he's had a lot of courage, and he's out there constantly.
You see him all the time on mainstream media, the alternative media that's now bigger than the old mainstream media, standing up for life, standing up for the unborn, standing up for God.
And I just really am glad to be able to get him on in his busy schedule.
dan friesen
He's very busy.
He's very taking the time out for Alex.
jordan holmes
So busy.
dan friesen
So he had posted some stuff about, you know, Diddy got arrested.
And he's like, this is why I left Hollywood.
jordan holmes
It's 100% why he left Hollywood.
Absolutely.
That's Diddy.
dan friesen
Kind of why he's on Alex's show.
He posted this stuff, and he's trying to get attention out of Diddy's arrest.
jordan holmes
It makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But, you know, he left Hollywood.
Hollywood didn't leave him.
jordan holmes
It's definitely not the case that Hollywood lived.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
He came out a few days ago, and it's up on Infowars.com, this article, Hercules Actor.
I left Hollywood because they are Pedo's.
Now, I was already wanting to get him on, and I've got some of the other actors coming on soon from the incredible movie, especially if you were alive back then.
The nostalgia is amazing.
It's so accurate as well.
Reagan.
That, of course, has got Dennis Quaid and so many other people in it, including Kevin Sorbo, who plays his pastor and who helped put Reagan on his life path, according to Reagan.
So an amazing film.
I saw that my parents brought tears to their eyes as we all lived through that and experienced it.
I guess for younger people, they see it and it doesn't quite click as well.
But if you want to know what it was like with time capsule and really what's affecting how we live today, you see the movie Reagan.
dan friesen
See, I'm also thinking that this is plugging the movie Reagan.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
But this is a good angle that Sorbo left Hollywood because they're a bunch of pedophiles, not because he's a very limited actor in terms of talent.
He sucks on screen.
He sucked on Hercules, too, but it fit in that kind of campy way that worked for the series and for Xena.
After that, it was mostly guest roles on TV shows, many of which were kind of playing on the novelty of him being Hercules.
And then there were the movies.
He would do anything.
He starred in two direct-to-video sequels to the rock movie Walking Tall.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Two sequels.
jordan holmes
Walking Tall 3?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He was bad in parody movies like Meet the Spartans and Bitch Slap.
He just wasn't very good, but he was pretty hunky in that late 90s way.
And that got him about as far as it could go.
And that's what he did.
In 2012, he played Abraham Lincoln and FDR American Badass, which is about, quote, what if werewolves were behind World War II and caused FDR's polio?
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
His resume is full of awful choices.
Gradually, he shifted into appearing in Christian movies, many of them produced by Pureflix, because quality acting is not needed in that genre.
He's found a nice new audience there and has progressively moved more towards the fringe of the right wing, which I guess now means that he's trying to exploit Diddy's arrest as an advertising opportunity for this new Reagan movie, which is cool stuff all around.
Very respectful.
Love it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Can't get enough.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Fucking Sorbo.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Man.
It is so interesting.
And perhaps instructive of our culture and the way that things are overlooked and such.
Is that, you know, Hercules, Kevin Sorbo, Hercules, Lucy Lawless, Xena, Lucy Lawless, fucking awesome.
Everything.
Now, she's in cool stuff.
Still, not on InfoWars.
Absolutely awesome.
Kevin Sorbo, giant piece of shit.
Terrible.
Not a good actor.
Is on InfoWars.
Don't be like Hercules.
Be like Xena.
dan friesen
There's one lesson.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So I think that maybe he really likes some attention and kind of thinks that.
jordan holmes
Maybe he needs some money.
dan friesen
I think he's probably fine on money.
But I think he has a little bit of a trolliness to him.
unidentified
Okay.
kevin sorbo
Look, the people that are upset at me for posting that and go crazy at me, maybe they have a lot more to worry about before anything else.
So then again, you know, why?
Who's not talking about this?
Many people are, but maybe the silent ones are the ones we need to look at.
Because the rumors of, I'm not going to name names.
I've heard so many big A-list names have been involved in this occult thing, this satanic worshiping, this blood drinking of, I don't have any proof.
I've heard stories for a long, long time about this.
Actually, somebody came out recently.
Who was the actress came out recently?
Say they drinks the blood of her husband or something.
It was pretty bizarre.
alex jones
Fox.
jordan holmes
Angelina Jolie.
kevin sorbo
Yes.
Yes, the one from all the Transformer movies.
alex jones
Angelina Jolie talked about similar things.
Her dad's a great guy, obviously in the Reagan movie, but I'm not trying to clapp her, but they're definitely polar opposites when it comes to John Voigt's cool.
dan friesen
So Sorbo's laughing about people getting mad at his post because this is all a joke to him, and he's thrilled to get attention.
I would suggest that possibly the people that are mad at him for his behavior might be trying to express, this isn't about you, Kevin.
Stop trying to make the news about Diddy's victims about you, Kevin.
You're just a bad actor who found a new niche, Kevin.
Go fuck yourself.
Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly split up earlier this year, so this is pretty old news.
This story that he's talking about traces back to a 2022 interview where she said that the two drank a drop of each other's blood as part of their engagement ceremony.
She likened it to becoming blood brothers, and that makes enough sense to me.
I think we can say that this is a non-issue, or maybe they're secretly vampires.
Who can tell?
jordan holmes
I would honestly, I would prefer the latter.
Because if they were secretly vampires, not because I want them to be vampires or anything like that.
It's just like, if there are two vampires, all bets are off.
Anything could be true.
dan friesen
Well, I know for a fact that at least one of them isn't a vampire.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because then his name would be Wooden Stake Kelly.
No, no, no, no.
Ooh, you were resisting that laugh.
You were in pain.
jordan holmes
That's going to hurt later.
I feel a bruise.
I feel like I got it.
dan friesen
I was trying to find a way to work garlic in there, too, but it just didn't.
jordan holmes
It wasn't.
Have you ever seen those videos of crash tests?
You know, and then they get it all the way, you know, like the 30 miles an hour.
The airbags are working just fine.
But man, they get those 120 miles an hour.
Those crash test dummies are just little things.
dan friesen
There's nothing you can do.
jordan holmes
Oh, nothing there.
That's what I feel like.
dan friesen
But if these references are all that you have to go on with for the widespread blood drinking problem in Hollywood, you have this Megan Fox story, and then you have to go back to the late 90s for Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton, and that story wasn't even about them drinking blood.
Maybe you're grasping at straws here.
Woof.
Maybe just shut the fuck up.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
Shouldn't you feel sad?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I would feel sad.
dan friesen
If you're Sorbo?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I would just feel so sad.
Like everything about, like, all of the choices that I make could affect whether or not I feel sad about how I lost my career.
And this is one of the choices that would make me feel sadder about how I lost my career than just being like, hey, I could be a different thing.
I actually have gotten very good at making pizza.
And so I'm going to try a pizza restaurant.
Why not?
dan friesen
That'd be nice.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
It'd be better than being on fucking Infowars talking bullshit about blood drinkers.
jordan holmes
Try a pizza restaurant.
That's my advice to Kevin Sorbo.
dan friesen
So Alex is like, you're actually famous, brah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You are Hercules.
So you left Hollywood.
You're talking a bit of shit about people drinking blood and occult stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I want to know about specifics.
Let's get some of that inside hot goss.
jordan holmes
You were in Hollywood.
That's what you're here for.
The in-Hollywood stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And it turns out maybe Kevin Sorbo wasn't really all that in.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
I got invited to be in a few movies, but mainly by the Austin Hollywood folks that didn't like Hollywood, like Richard Linkletter.
But I did get offers and voiceovers in some movies.
So I did spend some time in L.A., not a lot.
Quit going out there 15 years ago just because it was so crazy.
jordan holmes
No one wanted me.
alex jones
And people would talk about that and talk about, yeah, we can't go to this party.
There'll probably be some underage girls there.
I was like, are you serious?
And then I'd be at just regular parties.
They'd open up suitcases or briques just full of every drug you'd want.
And I'm like, I don't take drugs.
And then all of a sudden, I'd be at like mainline party and 15 hookers would show up and I would leave.
I mean, you were there without getting into any names.
You're thinking, everybody, she saw the pedophile stuff, so you're blessed, but you heard about it.
What made you leave Hollywood specifically?
Because if I barely brushed up against it and it was ridiculous, I mean, what type of stuff did you see or hear about in Hollywood?
kevin sorbo
Well, I live pretty much, I live 45 miles north of L.A.
I was between LA and Santa Barbara.
I was never much of a Hollywood guy.
I love the industry.
I love making movies.
I love being part of the creative process.
But I was never part of it in terms of going to the parties and seeing stuff.
I mean, certainly there were parties I went to and there'd be drugs around, things like that, but I never did that stuff.
Look, I left.
unidentified
Why not?
kevin sorbo
I took the family.
We escaped California six years ago.
We left the worst governor in the country to the best governor.
We've lived in Florida now for six years.
We absolutely loved up there.
We were thinking about moving for a long, long time.
It just got to a point that I couldn't take the taxes anymore.
The traffic is sucking all the time.
dan friesen
Okay, so you're kind of just talking shit about vampires and stuff and all of these very serious issues and kind of maybe rumor and innuendo of stuff you know nothing about.
You have no information to provide.
And you really left because no one wanted to fucking hire your terrible acting ass and you don't like taxes and traffic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, what a hero.
Yeah, those do sound more.
Okay, so here's what you brought me, Kevin Sorbo, onto your show for: inside information.
Because, as we both know, I was famous in Hollywood.
kevin sorbo
Right.
jordan holmes
I was on TV.
dan friesen
Probably saw some shit.
jordan holmes
So I would expect to, and I've been talking so much shit about how I saw stuff.
You would expect me to have personal first-hand accounts of things that I did see.
dan friesen
Turns out maybe there were some drugs at a party and he doesn't like the traffic in L.A. Opti shit.
jordan holmes
No, it turns out you and I both know the exact same amount of the bullshit we are spewing right now.
Yeah, great.
dan friesen
Get lost.
jordan holmes
Good work.
dan friesen
So anyway, Hollywood has collapsed.
alex jones
I would say Hollywood's basically collapsed.
And then I look at faith-based films being one of the only things that's successful now and are huge.
jordan holmes
Has anybody lived?
alex jones
Some of the biggest films ever made and films exposing human trafficking.
You know, the biggest film, what, this year so far, or was that last year, The Sound of Freedom?
Does Hollywood realize that they're destroying themselves as people turn against their woke agenda?
dan friesen
Their woke agenda.
So Sound of Freedom was a 2023 movie, and it came in 25th at the box office for the year.
The Meg 2 was number 15.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny was number 16.
And both Super Mario Brothers and Barbie beat Sound of Freedom by over a billion dollars.
unidentified
Man, I am shocked that the Meg 2 got 15.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's, man, those shark movies, they just keep going.
dan friesen
The painfully woke Little Mermaid overdoubled Sound of Freedom's ticket sales.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So fuck off.
jordan holmes
Very, very woke, that mermaid.
dan friesen
This year, the top two movies of the box office have been Inside Out 2 and Deadpool and Wolverine.
Both made over a billion dollars and both are Disney movies who are supposed to be the wokest of the woke.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So I think the proof here is that Hollywood has collapsed and faith-based movies are taking over because people just can't handle this agenda of wokeness.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it's so annoying whenever they can't even take the L on stuff that's just so fucking obvious.
Your movies suck.
Christian movies are shit.
They suck.
They're terrible.
Just take the L that you like.
dan friesen
They're often bad, and you're talking yourself into liking them.
But at the same time, you don't even have to take a total L here because the Sound of Freedom overperformed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can take a victory in that, like, hey, that did better than it had any business doing.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And when you pretend you're in the same conversation as like the top movies of the year, like Barbie, go fuck yourself.
Yeah.
You're delusional if you think that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You are not even close to the mainest of mainstream of culture, but you should be doing way worse in terms of how bad this movie is.
jordan holmes
Next year, the Chicago White Sox will continue to play baseball.
I mean, according to the laws of physics, as far as we know them to this day, they will win maybe 60 games, and that's terrible.
That's an awful season.
But for them, that would be winning 30 more.
That would be doubling their win total.
That's a win.
That's a huge win.
Sure, it's terrible, but it's a win.
Take the win.
dan friesen
So Sorbo talks a little bit about one of the movies that he made called Let There Be Light.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And I think he's a little in the dark.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
kevin sorbo
Look, I did a movie called Let There Be Life.
My wife wrote it along with Dan Gordon.
Dan Gordon's phenomenal writer.
He wrote The Hurricanes for Denzel Washington, The White Herb Kevin Costner.
dan friesen
Also, Surf Ninja.
jordan holmes
I love that.
kevin sorbo
Actually, Sean Hannon, he funded it.
$3 million movie that opened number two per screen average against Thor Ragnarok, a $300 million movie.
I get a call from Netflix after opening weekend, and they say, hey, we know you have a foot in this family faith world.
We want to open an inspirational division here at Netflix.
I had four meetings with them over the next couple months.
This is back in 2018.
And with each meeting, I could tell this was maybe this was just lip service that their ideology is so screwed up.
And so there's 80 million homes that want the kind of movies that I'm doing and what the Irwin brothers are doing and what the Kendrick brothers are doing.
There's 80 million homes out there, yet they just avoid it for whatever reasons.
And I knew half the people in those rooms that I was meeting.
I was met like a dozen people from Netflix.
I could tell half of them agreed with me, but they're afraid.
You know, the gays are out of the closet in Hollywood.
It's the Christians and the conservatives.
They're in the closet now.
dan friesen
So I'm guessing that Netflix would love to try and tap into profiting off the audience Sorbo has, but honestly, you have to ask yourself if that's an audience worth chasing.
Sure, maybe you can make some money off a shitty movie with good messages division, but if you put out a movie with a black female lead, are these people going to try and boycott you over being too woke?
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
It's not a great market to try to sustain unless you're willing to cater to them entirely, which is why working with someone like Sorbo on something like this would probably seem interesting to explore, but you would think better of it.
It's not worth it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Netflix wants to start a quote-unquote inspirational division, which a Christian like Kevin Sorbo should be against just as a commercialization of their bullshit entirely.
But I think what he's missing is that if you want to make the real money, you have to start a Birth of a Nation division, essentially, where you just make fucking Nazi propaganda.
dan friesen
Well, Netflix doesn't need to do that.
No.
jordan holmes
Sorbo needs the Birth of a Nation division.
dan friesen
As for his movie, Let There Be Light, that movie opened on October 27th in 373 theaters with a gross of $1.7 million.
That's not too bad, all things considered.
Thor Ragnarok didn't open until the next week, November 3rd, and it brought in $122,744,989 from 4,080 theaters.
But Sorbo's talking about the per-theater average.
He said he came in number two.
jordan holmes
Number two.
dan friesen
Yeah, so let's do a little math.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Sorbo's movie took in $4,637 per theater.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's pretty good.
dan friesen
Thor, $30,085 per theater.
jordan holmes
Well, Thor is a pretty big movie.
They had a bigger advertising budget.
dan friesen
Even if people didn't like Ragnarok as much, still did quite well.
jordan holmes
I thought they liked it more than the first two.
It was the first one with Tycho YTT.
dan friesen
I don't know which one is which.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Thor Ragnarok was pretty good.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Let There Be Light and its best performance came in ninth in per theater box office.
And if you just look at the next week when Thor came out, because he mentioned Thor, it drops to 16th place behind Ladybird, Thor, and the classic A Bad Mom's Christmas, starring Catherine Hahn and potential future RFK Jr. ex-wife Cheryl Hines.
jordan holmes
Man, Catherine Hahn is everywhere.
dan friesen
She's great.
She's great.
It's fun for Sorbo to pretend his movie was in the same kind of conversation as Thor, but this is fucking embarrassing.
Terrible.
It's just accept where you are and be proud of what you've accomplished.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not embarrassing.
When you say you came in second to Thor, you're delusional.
And this is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's insufferable.
jordan holmes
Just on a general principle, I don't think we should listen to actors when they talk.
Just because if your job is to pretend to be something else, you got to really have a strong handle on who you are before you should be talking as yourself.
And I know actors.
I've met a lot of them.
I don't know all of them.
Strong handle on themselves.
Not one of their strong suits.
dan friesen
Especially fucking Sorbo.
unidentified
Yeah.
So anyway, they split paths.
dan friesen
And Alex, I'm going to actually go ahead and skip this because it's just a bummer.
Leanne McAdoo calls in.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Because she lives in Florida.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, no.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And her house is damaged by the hurricane.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And it's very sad because she is dealing with a lot of stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And apparently they had chest-deep water.
And, you know, it's just, I feel for her.
And it's sad.
And it's not funny in the way that Steve Pieczenik was scolding Alex about the politeness of calling during a hurricane.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's great.
dan friesen
She seems distraught, and it's.
jordan holmes
That's no good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It made me very sad.
Yeah, that sucks.
So Alex had Sorbo on.
And then he has another guest.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which is a letdown.
Not famous.
Okay.
Well, it's no Hercules.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We want to fight.
James O'Keeffe wants to fight.
We're going to go to break in one minute with James O'Keefe.
jordan holmes
I've seen the same number of good movies.
alex jones
Unbelievably powerful.
Line in the sand.
This is next level.
Out of all the crazy stuff people have gotten with the smuggling of humans and all the rest.
They went inside.
They infiltrated the smugglers.
It is next level.
And it is on the Tucker Carlson network.
And everybody needs to see this.
So we're going to go to break.
We're going to come back with the great James O'Keeffe.
We'll play the trailer coming out of the break.
You need right now, ladies and gentlemen, to check out the film immediately at the Tucker Carlson Network, TuckerCarlson.com.
dan friesen
I guess that Tucker's hiring O'Keeffe now, which that seems like a good fit.
He ran Project Veritas into the ground, and if you provide the kind of content that his audience wants, it doesn't really matter how clear of a fraud you are.
And Tucker understands how to cater to that market.
He gets that.
This is a perfect partnership from how cravenly opportunistic both of these guys are to how they're both dinosaurs who were mentored by Andrew Breitbart.
I watched the trailer for this movie, and it looks like sensationalist bullshit, which is no surprise.
The only thing that is a surprise is that O'Keeffe is doing a border stunt again.
He already dressed up as Osama bin Laden and crossed the Rio Grande River to demonstrate how anyone can cross the border, and that was in 2014.
He's such a hack.
He's just rehashing his own shit from like a decade ago and over-dramatizing it.
unidentified
Everything else has kind of been shitty since then, so try running it back.
dan friesen
Yeah, play the hits, man.
jordan holmes
Go on a reunion tour.
We're playing Aerosmith's greatest hits tour.
That's what we're doing.
dan friesen
I find it to be a little disappointing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I found his interview to be a bit underwhelming.
But here's just a little piece of him being a dramatic little weasel.
james okeefe
It seems like there's a story of corruption everywhere.
Things have become systemically corrupt.
It's a watershed moment in citizen journalism and the awakening of humans.
The problem with America right now is that everyone is still afraid.
That's the problem.
And what are they afraid of?
And I posted this last night.
Everyone, Alex, is afraid of, quote, being targeted.
And I'm going to read what I wrote on X. You know what I say to that?
unidentified
Jesus.
james okeefe
Afraid of being targeted.
I say fuck them all but six.
Those are the pallbearers that carry my casket.
They're afraid of being falsely accused, afraid of being in jail, raiding us, turning on us, firing us, clearing us, prosecuting us, persecuting us.
Listen, I've been there, done that.
And that's my cross to carry.
dan friesen
Pretending to be targeted is literally James's business model.
If he didn't pretend that he was being persecuted by the system, he'd have no way to make money.
I would argue that James O'Keefe is actually a living embodiment of how there is no systemic persecution of these right-wing shitheads because he has very little talent and negative charisma, and yet he has zero shame, and he's willing to do just about anything for a publicity stunt.
So he's been constantly rich and a famous figure for like 15 years.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That equation proves basically, like, you'd be gone so much longer ago if there was, if any of the shit that he was talking about was real.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it is an envious job in a lot of ways.
Like, you know, he ran Project Veritas in the ground.
You can't run one of those places into the ground.
You just had one of those places, and then it was, your scam was caught.
So you got a new rich billionaire to give you a new scam.
dan friesen
I actually kind of disagree a tiny bit with Project Veritas just because of how strange things are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one actually was.
dan friesen
That's a unique case.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was a unique case.
I will give you that.
dan friesen
I'm kind of going to touch on that here in a second.
Because of that clip, it features one of my favorite things about James, which is how much of a dorky theater kid he is at heart.
He thinks he sounds so cool when he's saying, fuck all of them but the six.
It's just such a loser, Eddie.
jordan holmes
He's such a little baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just as a little reminder, according to Business Insider, things started to fall apart at Veritas after James put out a parody music video and the board of directors sent out a memo saying, quote, they were concerned about how James O'Keefe spent company resources, including personnel and money, to indulge his musical theater aspirations.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, I mean, that's that's specific.
That's running it into a ground specific in a way that.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but, you know.
That's actually the only thing that humanizes him because ultimately I feel like what he's done is monetize his psychopathy.
dan friesen
Yeah, that cringe-worthy dramaticness is humanizing.
jordan holmes
I want to be a star.
Yeah, you do.
dan friesen
All of them but the six.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, that's why you'll never be a star, kid.
dan friesen
Now I'm going to do a dance number.
jordan holmes
You got to quit.
You got to get out of here.
This business isn't for you.
This isn't for you.
Get out of here.
Get gone.
dan friesen
So, Alex got a little boring, but I mean, how do you not after you have Sorbo on?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then James O'Keefe.
And I just, I kind of, I felt like I was losing my interest around this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
So we're going to talk about that and then a whole bunch of this news, like this one on InfoWars.com.
Absolutely disgusting.
The view host, Sonny Hoston, says Melania Trump, quote, hates Donald Trump, wants to take him out.
They talked about smashing him like a bug last week.
I mean, this is all get Trump crap.
And they are the ones pushing the vitriol.
They're the ones that persecute political opposition.
Everything they say about us is what they're doing.
Here's the clip.
We'll go back to your calls.
unidentified
I think she hates him.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, okay.
So we can all say that.
That's a given.
I also think that she wants to take him out.
She does not want to be the first lady anymore.
They agree with you.
She doesn't want to be the first lady.
jordan holmes
What are we doing, Clapping?
What is happening?
unidentified
Who hates Christmas?
Melania Trump hates Christmas.
She doesn't want to decorate for Christmas.
She doesn't want to be.
jordan holmes
She doesn't want to sleep in the same room with him.
unidentified
She can't tolerate him.
alex jones
Allegedly.
unidentified
And she doesn't.
Yeah, how do you know Walmart?
You don't know Walmart.
alex jones
Allegedly.
unidentified
That's why I say a legend.
alex jones
I mean, that is.
She totally loves Trump.
Dollars saying they're doing her husband twice.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
alex jones
And we actually have a clip of Kamala famously saying, I don't want to hear about your damn celebrating.
America's racist.
What the hell is that to do with, even if that was true, what's that to do with Christmas?
So they are getting just, they're told to say all this.
jordan holmes
Everybody, go to your court.
alex jones
Bonker cuckoo land.
dan friesen
So I was listening to this, and I'm like, okay, Alex Jones, noted conspiracy seer-through guy, is complaining about the view and who does or doesn't like Christmas enough and whether Melania loves her husband.
And I felt a sense of euphoria wash over.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Because that was the end of this show.
dan friesen
I realized, I was like, what is happening?
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You're complaining about the view.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
kevin sorbo
Right.
jordan holmes
15 years ago, when I was starting out in comedy, I thought it was an easy bit.
It was an easy bit to end with just a nice little tag making fun of the view.
The view sucks.
The end.
dan friesen
Laugh.
I'm not even here saying that the view sucks.
I think that I'm not the target demo for the view necessarily.
So I don't know exactly what is being enjoyed about it.
So I don't care.
It's not, it's, I just think this is like beneath what Alex wants to pretend to be.
And I think that's funny.
jordan holmes
I think so too.
dan friesen
He's supposed to be the guy who knows about what the devil's up to.
And he's whining about a daytime TV show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is pathetic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Anyway, we'll be back.
dan friesen
Let's cover the view next week.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Man, I hope they have Hercules on.
dan friesen
They probably, no.
Meh, maybe.
Anyway, we'll be back.
Until then, we have another website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we have another website, intelligent.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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