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#939: June 27, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan take in Alex's show from the day of the Trump Vs. Biden debate, and then experience his live commentary on the event.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
19:45
d
dan friesen
45:09
d
donald j trump
05:28
j
jordan holmes
35:55
Appearances
c
chase geiser
01:24
j
jake tapper
01:23
j
joe biden
03:29
o
owen shroyer
01:00
r
robert barnes
01:09
Clips
c
col ghannon burton
00:40
d
dana bash
00:47
h
harrison smith
00:56
l
luke rudkowski
00:16
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
s
steven crowder
00:13
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledgefight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
donald j trump
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding me.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
donald j trump
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
alex jones
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your brain spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
Well, mine was going to be...
And it's been on the calendar for a long time.
It was going to be tennis.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because tomorrow's the Wimble start.
dan friesen
The Wimble start.
jordan holmes
And then in a couple of weeks, it'll be Wimble done.
dan friesen
You don't have any kids.
You can't make jokes like that.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
That is bad material.
jordan holmes
All right, all right, all right, all right.
No, but instead, instead something better happened.
My wife, she has this exercise class she goes to.
Bunch of gals working together, working out.
It's great.
And now she's like some sort of seabird.
Every time she goes out, she brings something home for me.
Something shiny.
dan friesen
Like the donut.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
It's amazing.
So yesterday she brought me flowers.
She just brought this beautiful thing of flowers.
It is amazing.
It's the best.
dan friesen
That is very sweet.
jordan holmes
That is very sweet.
No more school forever.
No more school.
Just her.
Like a seabird bringing me gifts.
That's what I want.
dan friesen
Go to your exercise class and find something.
jordan holmes
Bring me a shell.
Yes, absolutely.
So that is my bright spot.
Easy.
dan friesen
Okay.
Well, I'm going to actually dovetail off that because I'll make my bright spot that donut you brought.
Because it lived up to the hype.
I texted you.
It was very, very good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was strong.
It was very thoughtful.
So thank you.
jordan holmes
It's tough because I live close enough to those and I wake up crazy early now that I could start doing that.
But once those become a regular habit, you're done.
dan friesen
Health kind of takes a hit if you donut every day.
Keep the donut special, as they say.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
It's a Wimble donut.
dan friesen
It's a Wimble...
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
And we're going to be talking about the day of the debate.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Oh, God, no.
dan friesen
Yeah, unfortunately, this must be done.
robert barnes
Okay.
dan friesen
So we're going to be talking about the 27th, which was Thursday, and Alex's show during the day, and then he came back and did some live coverage of the debate.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And so we'll talk about that.
Now, I'm going to admit this off the bat.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Just right out front.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We're not going to cover the debate.
In full detail.
If people want coverage of the debate, I think they might find it better elsewhere, as there's a lot of that that doesn't end up playing on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Why would it?
dan friesen
I watched the full debate.
And there were large chunks that you would have no idea happened if you watched Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So we're going to cover Alex's coverage of it, not the debate itself.
And that's an important distinction.
But before we get down to all this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, the household of tall, barred, and cinnamon.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Tronchnado.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, hey, Knowledge Fight, I'm a first-time wonker.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And dinosaurs are crying because the moon is on fire.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Also, we got a technocrat in the next, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Jar Jar Binks has a puka shell necklace and a squatch tramp stamp.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, obviously, I think that there was a lot of...
Fallout after the debate, let's say.
Trump and Biden had their first debate, and I think there was a lot of disappointment that people experienced.
jordan holmes
I'm shocked to discover he's old!
dan friesen
It did not change a lot of my opinions vis-a-vis policies and stuff, but Biden did come off as a bit older than Trump, definitely.
Sure.
And I think that is inescapable.
But on this Thursday, Alex is doing a lot of prep work in terms of Trump being bad.
jordan holmes
Okay, so Alex is out the gate thinking, all right, well, I'm assuming Trump is going to sound like an absolute fucking lunatic.
dan friesen
It seems like he's doing a lot of groundwork in case things go bad.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And everything is going to be fucking rigged.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It's going to be massive.
And coming up, I'm going to lay out how they're planning to rig it, how they're planning to manipulate it, and it's all hiding in plain view, and you will see this tonight.
And I know exactly what they're doing.
So it's a good thing that I'm talking to the Trump campaign at the highest levels.
They're not stupid either.
They know what to expect.
But this is going to be amazingly one-sided in how they rig it.
Kind of like Gladiator, where they stab Maximus in the heart right before they make him go out and fight, but he still wins.
dan friesen
Yeah, so it's all going to be rigged against Trump.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
When I heard that, and Alex makes this Gladiator reference again later, and I thought, now that I know something about Dune, this is a perfect place for a Dune reference.
jordan holmes
This is a pretty good place for a Dune reference.
dan friesen
You could easily work in the Harkonnens there.
Come on, Alex.
You can't be out-Duned by Dan.
That's no good.
jordan holmes
I like this.
I like this new Doondam.
dan friesen
So yeah, I'm punching up some of his references.
So yeah, it's all going to be rigged against Trump.
That's the name of the game going in.
jordan holmes
Now, here is the downside.
And this is what I wish people would be reacting to correctly, as opposed to what they're doing, which is incorrect.
Biden was absolute trash.
Absolute trash.
Trash!
He looked like he was dying in front of us, right?
But, ha ha ha, idiots on the right, everything is a conspiracy.
So either that was on purpose, or everything is not a conspiracy.
You do not get to gloat about a win.
That's how conspiracy works.
dan friesen
Well, your thoughts on this are really complicated, and I think we can revisit them as we go along, because there's a divide sort of in that.
There is a voice.
That we'll hear later, that is theorizing that it was all a setup against Biden, you know, in order to make him look bad.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
In order to justify replacing him with somebody else.
jordan holmes
Okay, now I'm listening.
dan friesen
So there's a conspiracy on top of everything, no matter how you slice it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like that.
Okay.
dan friesen
So, I don't know if you remember, but on our last episode, Alex said, tomorrow I'm going to cover the FEMA camps.
I can't do it today, so I'm going to do it tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Didn't have time.
dan friesen
So here's where we're at today.
alex jones
Now, that said, I'm going to keep my promise today and cover the FEMA camps, but I'm going to do the real deep dive tomorrow, and the reason for that is I asked Rob Dew,
who's made three of my five police state films with me, he's been here 15 years, he stayed up here until midnight last night, to just get me the basics of government documents, clips, congressional hearings, Admissions, where the camps are, how they're for the American people.
He literally, when I got in here this morning, had over a thousand pages of documents.
And I know the documents from history and understand them, but I spent time trying to reassess it and get ready, and I said, there's no way we can do this today.
dan friesen
There's no way.
It's just too much.
Rob Du brought me too much.
Remember back when they were trying to pretend that Robdu didn't work there anymore during the trials?
unidentified
I do remember that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was a complete stranger.
Never even seen the guy.
dan friesen
Who's that?
jordan holmes
Never even heard of the guy.
Cousin of who?
harrison smith
What?
dan friesen
So we're going to do it tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Oh, boy.
Now, it can't possibly be.
It cannot possibly be.
But I would hazard, if Robdu is working overtime at a place that is going out of business, Imminently, he's either got way too much free time or, I don't know, something creepy is going on.
Maybe they're digging underneath.
Okay, okay, here's what they're doing.
They're digging underneath the Infowars studio because there is a bank next door.
With the vault underground, that's the only way to get up through it.
dan friesen
Right.
I understand where you're going with this.
jordan holmes
You see what I'm saying?
dan friesen
I do.
I think it's more likely that Rob Dew is busy digging underground.
Same tunnel scheme that you're talking about.
But it ends up in Round Rock at Dr. Jones Naturals.
As opposed to a bag vault.
He might have a relationship with them.
jordan holmes
Well, I'm sure we'll never have to worry about it being a legal matter.
dan friesen
Probably not.
So CNN is going to screw over Trump.
Walking into a trap is the basic theme that Alex is trying to convey.
alex jones
Well, Trump in Atlanta tonight is marching into a hornet's nest of CNN, globalist operatives, the intelligence agencies, God knows what.
They're going to be always fading down his mic even when he's talking so it's low and doesn't sound effective.
I saw that in the last debate, 2016, 2020.
It's what they do.
So they'll be riding his mic back so it's muffled.
They'll turn down the highs and the lows.
It'll be obvious.
Biden will be crisp.
And then they've got a faded mute button where it turns down his audio 90% from 50%.
Where whenever they give more time or let Biden respond but don't let Trump, that's how they're going to game it, is by the moderators.
That's one level.
And then they're going to cut and show Trump when he's trying to respond to Biden, cutting him off or lying, and just show Trump like a mime.
Talking.
And the story will be, Trump looked like a fool trying to dominate, but CNN stood up to him and he didn't run over them like a bull in a china shop.
Boy, didn't he look stupid?
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
All these predictions, not quite accurate.
jordan holmes
I wonder, I imagine, and honestly, I think that's the least believable thing I can think of for Alex to say.
There will be a headline saying CNN has a backbone.
Never.
Nope.
Never going to happen in my lifetime.
dan friesen
Not gonna happen.
I think that Alex recognized that Trump's most likely thing that he would do that would be bad would be yell and act like a dick.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
And so Alex is trying to sort of give a preemptive way to play that ball.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If that's the way things go.
owen shroyer
Sure.
dan friesen
I do think it would be really fun if Trump actually did do mime work.
During the debate.
jordan holmes
I mean, I remember the 2016 when he was looming behind Hillary.
That was some mime work.
Yeah.
That's there.
I mean, at the very least, it stayed with me.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That enduring image.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's not as much menace, like visual menace, that necessarily comes from this 2024 debate.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So CNN has got some other tricks up their sleeve that Alex thinks they're going to pull.
jordan holmes
What else they got?
alex jones
And what CNN's going to do, and we're going to try to take time tonight.
In fact, somebody in the crew can do this.
Get a stopwatch out, digital.
Have a piece of paper.
We won't get it exactly in a second, but we'll get a general thing.
How long did Trump talk?
How long are the moderators talking?
How long is Trump talking?
And I predict that Trump will speak 31% of the time and will be talked over and they won't mute Biden.
We'll do it a few times, but not most of the time.
He'll speak 31% of the time.
The moderators will speak 15% of the time.
And the vast majority of the time, 50-plus percent of the time, it will be Joe Biden.
I'm making that prediction right here.
dan friesen
Cool.
Hashtag Alex Jones was right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
Except he wasn't.
This is totally wrong.
Trump spoke for 41 minutes and two seconds of the debate, and Biden spoke for 36 minutes and 12 seconds.
So almost five minutes less was Biden time.
So Alex is just 100% wrong.
jordan holmes
Just throw it all at the floor.
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Yeah, but this is the narrative that Alex wants to have in place.
They're not even going to let him talk.
Biden's going to get so much more time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's just insisting that this should be the story before anything even happens.
jordan holmes
Before we've had the debate.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
You won't have to do it like we're doing live, trying to figure it out tonight.
You can take the debate.
You can, with a stopwatch, get it perfectly.
And I want that to be a news story.
How long did Trump speak?
How long did moderators speak?
How long did Biden speak?
And I bet you my bottom dollar, Joe Biden will talk over 50% of the time.
The moderators will talk 15% of the time.
And Trump will get right around 30-31%.
unidentified
Watch it happen.
alex jones
But that's not the big takeaway.
It's going to be again when they mute him and he's going, look how funny it is how we muted him because they think like children.
They shadow ban you, they ban you, they debank you, they use a social credit score.
They're going to do it all in front of you tonight.
Like, they're so smart.
dan friesen
So Alex has lost his bottom dollar, uh, because Trump's more than Biden.
jordan holmes
You know, when they turned J. Jonah Jameson into Alex Jones in the Marvel Universe, you were like, ah, that makes sense, because he's a loudmouth boorish asshole, right?
What was weird there is that I heard Alex turn into J. Jonah Jameson, just like, I want that to be a headline!
Get me Spider-Man!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Alex is...
I mean...
It's so much...
It does have the print media feel.
I want this all over the front page.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
It's just got that vibe.
Here's what's going to be on the front page tomorrow, everybody.
Yeah, it's just amazing.
Dewey defeats Troman!
dan friesen
I don't think that the time difference story was on the front page.
jordan holmes
I strongly suggest that.
dan friesen
And you're going to have to drop that at some point.
jordan holmes
I imagine so.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't.
Pretty much for the entire time that we're going to be talking about today.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
So there's going to be some other things that are happening at this debate that Alex is also wrong about.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And they've got other tricks.
jordan holmes
Snipers.
alex jones
Biden gets to sit down because they know Trump doesn't like to sit and Trump has more energy on his feet.
They don't want the energy of the big Trump up there with the crackhead cryptkeeper Biden.
So Biden will be able to, you know Biden's going to have an earpiece.
jordan holmes
Wait, he's a crackhead and a cryptkeeper?
alex jones
They're going to have Trump's mic.
Not just muted when they mute it, it'll be muffled.
They're going to mess with the audio, which I saw at the last two presidential runs.
dan friesen
So they weren't sitting down.
Trump didn't have bounding, enormous energy that terrified everyone.
Although, I do think it's fascinating that you thought that the other tricks up their sleeve might be snipers.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Because you're making sort of a joke, and it's not that far off from the theory that Alex has.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, what if...
Okay, so I'm obviously not saying that there's going to be murder snipers there.
That's not why you would have snipers there.
If you're going to murder the president, you just go do it, right?
You don't need a sniper during a debate on TV.
No, it's to fire BB guns at their feet, so they've got to always be dancing.
You know, like an old West guy, like firing the revolver, they'll always be dancing.
dan friesen
I've seen cowboy shows.
jordan holmes
I think that's how they do it.
That's how they kept Biden so fresh.
dan friesen
I didn't see much of that going on when I watched the debate.
jordan holmes
Always above the waist.
dan friesen
The framing of the shots definitely could have been hiding something.
But I'm not being exaggerating here.
Alex is thinking there might be an assassination at the debate.
jordan holmes
Good, good.
That's a great place for it.
alex jones
They could kill Trump tonight.
I mean, that's on the table, but I think they're going to kill Joe Biden.
That's how they remove him instead of removing him at the convention to make him look like victims.
They could kill Biden tonight.
I'm not saying it's going to happen.
I'm just saying I picked that up from all the evidence, everything.
I really just sit back for hours sometimes in a chair thinking about all the knowledge I've got, how much research I do, and I just go.
Kill Biden.
Yeah, they'll kill Biden.
They don't know us.
One of their big juicies, they're thinking about it.
That's one of their cards and their little paw.
They've got that.
dan friesen
I just do some imagining and then I talk shit and pretend that it's based on research.
jordan holmes
It is so funny.
It's so funny to listen to that now, especially because it is like, listen, nobody would kill him.
But if he died, everybody would be like, well, that's one problem we don't have to solve anymore.
Now it's taken care of.
Now it's taken care of.
We don't need to worry about it.
Nobody wants to kill him.
But if he were to die of, say, being a million years old.
dan friesen
Okay, there's going to be an assassination at the debate that's live on here.
That's great in a movie.
Dude, this is like real world.
jordan holmes
This is ridiculous.
Because you would do it on live TV to get people's attention or whatever.
But if you assassinate the president, you got it.
dan friesen
There's attention.
jordan holmes
You're going to get there.
You don't need the extra, like, well, it better be on TV.
You'll be fine.
dan friesen
I get where Alex is coming from.
And this is an entertaining way to keep people interested in his content and talk shit and all this.
But it's kind of ridiculous in hindsight.
And there's something about that that's so weird.
When he says, I just sit back and I think from all the research and all these things, all my knowledge.
jordan holmes
Dreams.
dan friesen
That, oh, of course they could kill Biden.
Yeah, but they could kill Trump.
When I would hear that years and years ago, there's a part of me that would be like, I wonder what kind of research he's done.
But now, it's so different.
Like, I've checked.
It's nothing.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
He has not done anything.
dan friesen
Experience it very differently.
jordan holmes
Here's the thing about the assassinations, though.
Which I don't like.
And it shows a bias on Alex's part that I think is a massive weakness.
He's obviously thinking guns.
Obviously.
He's thinking long gun from a distance.
dan friesen
Well, you'd have to because they'd need to use the assassination to try and take away the Second Amendment, so it would have to be done with a gun.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
But...
I'm telling you, if you are going to kill the president during a live televised debate, it's got to be poison from the glass of water.
And then he chokes all dramatically, and everybody's like, that's how you do it.
dan friesen
Joffrey kind of situation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, if you shoot him, it's just like, ah, that's gross.
Nobody wants to see that.
But it's high drama if he chokes in front of our eyes, you know, and it's, oh, no, the president!
dan friesen
Or a hoisted piano dropping.
jordan holmes
Now, that's okay.
That's just too fun.
You can't have that much fun anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's because of wokeness, Dan.
dan friesen
It's true.
Wokeness took away hoisted pianos.
So, Alex, he talks about how he can't run away from a fight.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And, I don't know, I just thought this was kind of dumb.
alex jones
I mean, I don't know about you folks.
I can't take, you know, some guy might be 6 '7 and look like, you know, the Terminator.
And he comes up and starts a fight with me.
I don't even know how to back down.
I just attack.
And that's just who I am.
jordan holmes
Get away from people.
alex jones
50 probably wouldn't, but it doesn't matter.
You're going to get hurt.
When I grew up in Dallas, I got in a lot of fights.
I might say I'm the toughest guy around.
But the bigger and meaner the guy was, he went to the hospital or was in a coma.
Because that was when I turned it loose and jumped up on top of him like a gorilla and slammed their head down the ground so fast and just ripped their nose off their face.
Because I'm dialed in, folks.
I'm not here to back down.
I'm not here to roll over.
And I don't know how to run.
jordan holmes
That I believe.
alex jones
In fact, I wish a lot of my life I knew how to back up.
Because you have fight or flight.
Flight's a good thing.
My problem is...
And when somebody connects on me with a big hit, man, they're about to get hurt.
They better know what they're doing.
They better be ready to fight for their life.
Because they gotta guard themselves for true.
Because they're about to get attacked by a gorilla that has no governor, no controls.
And it's absolutely savage.
And they know in my information it's the same, and that's why they don't like me.
dan friesen
Yeah, unless you do a podcast about me for seven years, then I'll just ignore you.
jordan holmes
I won't say your...
I will be too afraid to say your name.
And if I hear your name, I'll hang up on you.
If I hear anybody say your names, I'll run away.
dan friesen
I will guard myself for true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
That's such the most annoying...
Like, of all the things that I hate about...
Dudes.
As like a dude, you know, thing.
Like, whenever I did...
Because I used to do the martial arts when I was younger.
Did the whole thing.
There were those guys that were just always like, Hey, listen, man.
I may not be a great fighter, but you better fucking kill me.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because I'm crazy.
I'll never stop coming.
I just...
And you're like, Jesus Christ.
Just get a sandwich.
Do something other than yell at me about how a fight would go.
dan friesen
Right.
It's a little...
I feel like it's the, we're going back to cartoons, the hoisted piano, but it's the really loud character that gets hit once and then runs away.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Like, it just has that energy to Alex.
It's a little sad.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
So, we know from listening to Alex that the plan is to divert everything over to Dr. Jones Naturals.
jordan holmes
No!
There's no way that that's a plan that anybody could see.
dan friesen
It's very obvious.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
But it turns out that Alex might have even more businesses stacked up.
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dan friesen
Yeah, don't worry.
Our scheme is elaborate.
jordan holmes
I mean, this is the type of shit that is, like, the most depressing part of this.
Because the truth of all of this is right.
Like, he's right.
They're just going to keep doing this.
So you're going to have to sue that company.
And that company's going to have a lawyer, and that lawyer's going to take you to court, and then you're going to do the thing.
And then you're going to find out that...
dan friesen
Oh, Cousin Buckley set up a vitamin business.
jordan holmes
So then you're going to have to go to court again.
dan friesen
It's totally unrelated.
jordan holmes
Then you're going to have to go to court again.
And then you're going to have to go to court again.
All of this, all that he's doing, is just to eventually get people to the point where they say, it costs us more to fight back than it does...
To just let him do whatever it is he fucking wants.
And that it is so obvious that that is what's going on and that no one is doing anything about that is insane.
dan friesen
But I remember back when it was earlier on in the lawsuits, he and Barnes would talk about how that is a strategy that they're using to make it too costly to pursue these suits against them.
jordan holmes
And the legal system was like, yes, that's a great idea because we are the cost!
You pay us!
We're the one!
We're the ones who get the money!
unidentified
Yeah.
Yay!
dan friesen
So Alex, you know, he set up his sort of predictive narratives about the debate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's going to be maybe a murder, which is very exciting.
jordan holmes
That would be exciting.
dan friesen
At very least, Trump is walking into a trap where they're not going to let him talk.
Biden's going to be sitting down.
jordan holmes
That would be pretty exciting, too.
dan friesen
And so I was like...
Let's just get to it.
Let's just jump to the debate.
So we're going to do that.
We're going to jump to an hour before the debate.
Alex started another stream.
And it's got the same vibe.
This is a trap.
This is a Trump trap.
jordan holmes
Trap, trap.
alex jones
Coming to you live from the InfoWars and Battle Studios in Central Texas.
It's June 27th on this live Thursday night transmission, 7.05 Central Standard Time.
We're going to be simulcasting this CNN rigged debate with all the manipulations and things they've got admittedly baked into this.
Trump is walking into a trap, but President Trump knows that.
And I just can't believe that the Crypt Keeper Joe Biden, the Chinese communist spy, the Russian spy, the Ukrainian spy, the father of the crackhead, the guy that his daughter said molested her in the shower, that he's got the nerve to get up there on stage.
Now, they're going to have him lit up like a Christmas tree on methamphetamine and a lot more.
This is going to be historical.
dan friesen
So yeah, Biden's a spy for Russia and Ukraine.
Yeah, that's cool.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
Sure.
So yeah, this is still the perfect way for Alex to engage with whatever happens.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because if there's a setup, if it's a trap and Trump looks like shit, then of course it was a trap.
He did the best he could.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What are you supposed to do?
If he comes out looking okay, it's like he did that and it was a trap.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's perfect.
This is the way you do it.
jordan holmes
Under promise, over deliver.
That kind of idea.
Okay, here's my question, alright?
You watched the debate.
I didn't watch the debate.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For obvious reasons.
dan friesen
I wanted to watch it unfiltered so I could assess the way that Alex was engaging with it in a certain amount of fairness.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it makes sense.
Should, did, okay.
Do you think they gave Joe Biden some drugs?
dan friesen
No, I don't know.
I don't think so necessarily.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I feel like you should give him drugs.
I feel like you give him drugs.
dan friesen
Performance-enhancing drugs, which is drugs he should be on.
jordan holmes
You name it.
Whatever you want, you go for it.
unidentified
I don't think he was on methamphetamines.
dan friesen
No, I didn't get the sense that he was drugged up or anything.
And I also didn't get the sense that he, like, when people will say that he has, like, senility or anything, I didn't get the sense that that was the case.
For the most part...
His thoughts made sense.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And the ideas that he was communicating made sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's just some misspeaking, and a couple times it looked like he lost his train of thought.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
There were a couple times where I was like, well, that's going to be a meme for sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, but I don't know.
I think there's a lot of overstating of him seeming fucked up.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen.
Okay.
JFK got on TV and was so fuckable he became president.
Joe Biden got on TV and was so old he might not become president again.
That's basically what it is.
I understand there's other words that people like to say.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not sure how damaging it is.
I know that there's a lot of conversation that has happened in the aftermath of the debate.
Is this going to really, really hurt Biden's chances?
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
It's not certain to me.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's kind of also why I didn't watch the debate, is because, as far as I'm aware, this is what I've been told on the never-ending quest to get Jordan to think that the lesser of two evils is fine.
One side is Biden, and he's going to do the thing.
And then the other side is Trump, who is going to essentially dismantle the country, punish all of the current politicians for whatever failures they might have occurred, real or imagined, and then, I guess, sell us off for parts.
So I don't understand a debate where the idea is like, what's your foreign policy?
My foreign policy is I'm going to sell New York City to a billionaire from Saudi Arabia.
What do you think my fucking foreign policy is?
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's absurd to have these two basically desperate realities try and debate.
jordan holmes
What do we do?
dan friesen
It's nonsensical.
I think that everybody who is paying attention and engaged knows what they believe before the debate.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And I don't think it's going to change that.
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would make sense if it was honest and it was like, hey, Trump.
Who are you going to take out first?
Or like, hey, Biden, how do you feel about all the war crimes you're committing?
You know, that'd be fine.
dan friesen
Well, that's not going to be on CNN.
jordan holmes
It's going to be people being like, what do you think about the tax rate?
What are you talking about?
But then I found out it was about golf scores.
So that makes more sense.
dan friesen
That does come up.
jordan holmes
That makes more sense.
dan friesen
We'll deal with that when it happens.
But for now, Bobby Barnes is on.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, if we know one thing about Barnes is that he's a bad lawyer.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
But...
If we know two things, it's that he's a bad lawyer and a good gambler.
jordan holmes
He is a good gambler.
dan friesen
He's a noted political gambler.
unidentified
He's good.
dan friesen
And so he makes a prediction about the debate, and he would lose.
alex jones
We're going to be giving commentary.
I'll be pointing out obvious scams.
They've got mute buttons they're going to be using predominantly, obviously, on Trump.
They're going to try to cut him off and have him talking with the sound turned off to make him look like a fool.
That'll be a big takeaway they're going to push.
Also, Trump has a gag order on him still from the New York conviction.
So watch Biden bring up the trial and then hoping that Trump violates the gag order so they can throw him in jail that way.
Robert Barnes, who is accurate about 95% of the time, predicts that there is a very good chance that tonight Trump will announce his VP to steal the show.
dan friesen
Yep, that prediction would not be, that we'd lose that bet.
No good.
No VP announcement.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Gambler.
jordan holmes
Just two old men yelling about golf.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Barnes, though, it's in the 5% that he's wrong about.
jordan holmes
95% of the time he's right, but that's not all the time.
dan friesen
Maintains that 95% batting average.
jordan holmes
All the time?
dan friesen
So in order to kill some time before we get to the debate, because Alex is on early, he goes to Twitter, and we have some spaces, folks.
And so here's the first caller.
chase geiser
Well, let's start out with Kristen Megan.
Kristen Megan, if you're still there, go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm so glad that you're doing this space.
And I was just listening to the commentary, and what I'm thinking about this debate is, first off, multiple things.
One, all the lies that are shared through the ads and any gaffes or speeches that Biden gives, he's not ever instantly fact-checked.
So although they're doing the muting of the microphone, hopefully Trump is able to, on the spot, be basically a community notes fact-checker.
But also, we all know a history that Biden gets very irate and angry when things don't go his way.
I have a father who has dementia.
I've seen it myself, the lashes out of anger.
And I would not be surprised to see him basically lose his shit on Trump and really show that he's not some just old, frail man.
But I think his true colors show, and it's not just because of the dementia.
So this is going to be very interesting.
And as a libertarian, it's just really funny because...
Many of us have issues with Trump, but all these attacks are just bringing us closer and closer to just wanting to support and donate toward him.
dan friesen
You sound like a principled libertarian.
Wow.
jordan holmes
I'm a libertarian.
I want to give my money to Donald Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
A bit wrong.
Biden didn't lose his shit.
He did end up saying that Trump had the morals of an alley cat.
That's what he's got?
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
We're in for a great president.
Whatever's coming down the pipe is going to be good stuff.
dan friesen
He did say that he's never heard so much malarkey.
We got some of that.
jordan holmes
He played the hits.
dan friesen
He's not a violent lashing out, certainly, losing his shit.
If anybody really needs that real-time fact-checking, it's Trump.
He lied his ass off pretty much the entire time, and there wasn't any pushback from the moderators, which is a real criticism that people had of the premise of the debate to begin with, and how it played out.
Trump was just allowed to say whatever the fuck he wanted, and there was very, very minimal amounts of bringing reality to bear on his comments.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, really, at this point?
The only good thing, or the only thing CNN is good for is hopefully eventually they'll have us back on so I can say Joe Walsh is a trash dick.
dan friesen
Yeah, you missed your shot.
jordan holmes
I know.
That's probably not going to happen again.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
Fuck.
dan friesen
So we get another person from Twitter.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This guy's a colonel.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Lieutenant colonel or just regular colonel?
dan friesen
I think he's a full colonel.
jordan holmes
KFC?
dan friesen
Yep.
And he has a dumb idea.
col ghannon burton
A couple things that kind of ran through my head as that kind of came out today.
unidentified
I'm hearing there's a one to two minute delay, right?
So if that's the case...
I'm worried about Trump's physical safety in there, right?
He's isolated in that room with people.
I hope the Secret Service, his detail, are within arm's reach of him at all times.
And frankly, they probably should have their guns trained on anyone, any live human being.
jordan holmes
On the president, obviously.
alex jones
Colonel, let me just stop because you're so dead on, and I forgot to mention that.
They announced this morning, normally for TV, there's a 10-second delay.
We have a 10-second.
It's FCC.
People that are just internet go, why can't you cuss or why there's a delay?
It's the law.
We have a 10-second delay.
Nobody runs more than a 15-second.
The NFL does that for whatever weird reasons.
Nobody runs a 30-second or one-minute or two-minute.
I saw that.
A two-minute delay?
That is weird.
That is unprecedented.
What are they scared is going to be said that they may want to just shut everything down, Colonel?
unidentified
I think where they're...
col ghannon burton
One would be basic risk mitigation, which is Joe Biden collapses on stage, right, because he can't stand up for 90 minutes.
unidentified
He poops his pants because he did in front of the Pope and other folks, right?
So we know he's got all those issues going on.
col ghannon burton
Or Biden goes completely spacey, and they just need to stop the production for a minute to try to see if they can get him back online.
unidentified
There's no coming back from that anyway.
But what I am concerned about, because...
alex jones
Exactly, because no other cameras are allowed in.
It gives them total control, which shows how they're gambling with this hopped-up dementia patient.
This guy's smart.
See, I wouldn't even have thought of that.
Keep going, Colonel.
dan friesen
Yeah, this guy's smart.
jordan holmes
This guy's got it.
dan friesen
So, I mean, it's really fucking suspicious that they have a two-minute delay.
Why would they do that?
That's fucking suspicious.
jordan holmes
I mean, one, I don't even know if that's true.
Alright.
dan friesen
Do you think Alex does?
Do you think he knows?
jordan holmes
I don't think he knows.
dan friesen
Nope.
It's not true.
jordan holmes
Okay, there we go.
dan friesen
Some idiot posted this on Twitter and then it got...
Repeated by all the expected right-wing dum-dums on social media, they claimed that CNN was running the debate with a two-minute delay so they could edit it live and present it however they wanted.
This was all just a rumor that a random account came up with on Twitter, which CNN's PR account literally responded to saying, quote, this is false.
And yet it's accepted as gospel by folks like Alex, who use it as an important piece of information to build up this conspiracy.
It's absurd.
unidentified
So wait, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
This person put out this information on Twitter.
unidentified
Correct?
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Right?
But I just heard on Twitter, on Twitter spaces, that this woman wanted Trump to be like a community notes for Biden.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
Because she wants people fact-checked.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Now, if you're suggesting that this information is false, was on Twitter, and presumably had a community note attached to it.
dan friesen
It might have.
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
I imagine it's hard to suggest those community notes work very well.
dan friesen
They really are running with this, though.
There's a two-minute delay.
jordan holmes
They're really going for it, huh?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just going to go with it.
dan friesen
And maybe it's where they're going to do the murder.
jordan holmes
That would be a great time.
unidentified
So that's the Joe Biden portion of it, right?
He could collapse or whatever.
col ghannon burton
But what I truly worry about is the safety, the physical safety of President Trump because if they have two minutes and if his Secret Service, like his son needs to be standing next to him or at least right there next to him because they could hit him with something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we could get them both.
col ghannon burton
I would not put it past the demons that poisoned everyone in the entire United States military to hit him with a direct energy weapon.
alex jones
By the way, I saw articles on CNN and the Washington Post saying they're predicting one of them will have a medical emergency.
That's a ridiculous...
So what do you make of that?
dan friesen
Yeah, what do you make of that?
jordan holmes
What do you make of that?
dan friesen
So they might hit him with a direct energy weapon in the two-minute delay that they have.
That would be sneaky.
That's why one of his sons needs to be there, I guess, to protect him, to jump in the line of the direct energy weapon or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is good stuff.
jordan holmes
You know, I would like everybody to just stop and, like, we're not in 2024.
We're just, ah, gone.
Alright?
The year is 1996.
Alright?
It's Bob Dole versus Bill Clinton.
Imagine we're saying all these similar things about Bob Dole versus Bill Clinton.
unidentified
They're gonna kill Bob Dole.
jordan holmes
They're gonna kill Bob Dole.
unidentified
No, I know.
I know.
dan friesen
It's weird.
So far gone in crazy town that it's not even...
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Can't even see our way out.
jordan holmes
I mean, sure, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to go ahead and say it.
The internet's bad.
It's bad for all of us.
dan friesen
It might have led to a little bit of this.
jordan holmes
It was a bad thing, yeah.
dan friesen
So we got another Twitter person, facilitated by the internet, coming on to Alex's show.
They talk a little bit about VP choices.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And this person wants Vivek.
jordan holmes
Rhymes with Snake.
dan friesen
Alex has some other ideas.
unidentified
Okay.
Yeah, so I honestly, I'm not entirely sure.
I'm hoping it's Vivek.
I'm going to just keep my hope alive for now.
But if it was Carson, I think he's trustworthy.
He's just kind of a quiet, softer-spoken guy.
So that makes me a little anxious.
And as for J.D. Vance, my only worries there are he used to be a very strong never-Trumper.
And you never know anymore.
Like, it just makes me really a little bit anxious there.
But thank you, Alex.
I appreciate you.
You're awesome.
alex jones
Thank you.
Yeah, well, I ran into J.D. Vance and had a conversation with him at the TPUSA action event in Detroit, and we had an interesting behind-the-scenes conversation.
I'll leave it at that.
But the word is, it's down to Carson and him.
chase geiser
What was your impression of him, just man-to-man meeting him?
alex jones
You were there.
chase geiser
Yeah, I saw it, but I wasn't in on the conversation.
Just vibes.
alex jones
You know, I don't want to hurt the campaign because they'll use it.
I'm not going to talk about it until later.
chase geiser
Makes sense.
alex jones
But, I mean, he defended me when he was running for Senate.
He defended me since.
And so that takes a lot of guts.
He's also been against the Ukraine war and a bunch of other stuff.
So I know he wasn't perfect, you know, seven, eight years ago.
And I get that.
Trump likes him.
chase geiser
Yeah.
alex jones
So I had a very interesting discussion with him and his chief of staff.
I'll leave it at that.
But they're big listeners.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
A return of the Brendan Coach McGurk energy.
chase geiser
I know!
jordan holmes
I just love it so much!
I want Melissa there, I want everybody!
dan friesen
Yeah, low-key.
I think I have become a big, like, Chase may be my favorite person at Info Horse.
jordan holmes
I think so, too!
dan friesen
I think he's actually risen the ranks.
He's definitely leaped over Owen and Harrison, for sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, but, yeah, easy, easy.
dan friesen
If there's something fascinating about this dynamic.
jordan holmes
He's so ridiculous.
Ridiculous as a human being.
And then to be paired with Alex, it is like...
Because it's almost like Alex is confused by him, too.
unidentified
Like, are you immune to me of some sort?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
Are you fucking with me?
jordan holmes
Who are you?
dan friesen
Am I actually impressing you?
jordan holmes
What is happening right now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
I finally found a nine-year-old to be cool in front of.
dan friesen
I've watched Chase by himself, and he certainly doesn't...
I don't enjoy him as much by himself.
Two of them together is electric.
jordan holmes
There is something to it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we get another person from Twitter who's like, hey, you know, they're just going to mute Trump's mic.
robert barnes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex tries to demonstrate why that won't work.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
dan friesen
And this is fun.
unidentified
I've been wondering if they're going to actually even let him talk.
If I was Donald Trump right now, I would be learning sign language.
I mean, if they're going to shut your mic off, it'd be nice if we could just have someone just...
Interpreting the stuff he's trying to say to Joe Biden while Joe Biden's just mumbling on stage.
alex jones
If I had time, because I haven't thought about this, if I want to get a message to Trump, I can talk to him.
But I don't know if Trump knows about acoustics, but Harry, let me put you on hold.
Let me show you something right now.
Guys, can you do this?
Turn my microphone off, which is similar to the lavs they're going to be wearing or the desk mics they're going to have.
And I'm going to show you how it doesn't stop you if they turn your mic off.
So go ahead and turn my mic off.
Oh my god.
We're not really set up to do that.
jordan holmes
Just tell me we can't.
alex jones
We can't.
unidentified
It's okay.
*laughter*
Okay Let's Let's all go to the lobby.
chase geiser
Yeah, I don't know if they're having a hard time hearing or what's going on.
Three Studios active is a special circumstance, so everybody's just running around.
dan friesen
So what they were trying to do, what Alex was trying to do, was have them turn the gain way up on Chase's mic so he could be heard yelling from Chase's mic with it really, really amplified.
Right, right, right.
And they just couldn't quite get it worked out.
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's just a bad...
You can just kind of explain the concept.
The other mic will still pick up his voice.
dan friesen
You can yell.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That is the long and short of this.
And it goes on for a while, and Alex finally...
Kind of makes his point, but it's a tough road.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So you get another person from Twitter who's critical of Trump.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
dan friesen
Dangerous.
And then Alex gets a little bit defensive.
unidentified
Okay.
During Trump's presidency, I was disappointed.
You know, he had a big pharma executive running the human health services.
He had a lobbyist for the coal industry running the EPA.
What?
The man he appointed to run the FDA, Scott Gottlieb, went on to join the board of directors at Pfizer when he was done with his tenure in the FDA.
He had a lawyer for the telecom company, Verizon, running the FCC.
So, you know, another one of those classic cases of, you know, the fox guarding the hen house across the board.
And I'm just wondering, you know, there isn't much talk of him, but I was curious to hear, Alex or Chase or any of the other speakers, what's your opinion on Bobby Kennedy Jr.?
Thanks for letting me ask you a question.
alex jones
Yeah, let me respond to that.
I think your criticism and your concerns about Trump is very well grounded.
And I think it's very responsible.
And I've been a big critic of Trump.
And I'm not a lesser of two evils, guys.
But the power structure in control now hates his guts because he really tried to be the president and did what he thought was best.
He made a lot of mistakes.
And I know Trump well and people that know him well.
He is his own man.
You don't tell him what to do.
But he has some weird understandings, almost autistic, has incredible energy, super smart in ways, but also, you know, I mean...
It would take two hours to explain it.
He said hydroxychloroquine.
He said ivermectin.
They told him we can't open the country.
jordan holmes
He said words I like.
alex jones
And he said, well, that's going to cause depression.
So he said speed everything up.
And they went, well, here's this thing, sir.
We can't speed it up when they already had it ready.
So they set him up.
I wish he would expose that.
I don't need him to say that because that's my theory.
I know that happened.
And Trump's pigheaded.
That's why they hate him.
He won't do what they say.
He won't do what I say.
So on Warped Speed, you're totally right.
All the time, Roger Stone pulls his hair out because Trump will be told by people, this is a good person who'll endorse a bad person.
Because it's complex.
I mean, I do this.
I mean, I work 15, 16 hours a day.
I spend a couple hours with my children, and I love the time with my children.
But I'm trying to know all this constantly, and I'm 50. This is all I do, and I miss a lot of stuff.
dan friesen
I'm not a lesser of two evils guy, but lesser of two evils stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he can't stop doing this.
dan friesen
He can't wrestle with the fact that what this caller is bringing up is that...
Trump's entire ethos and the entire front-facing populist nonsense is ridiculous.
There were lobbyists all over the place.
He pointed people, special interests to positions.
And Alex is like...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's such a great criticism, and the thing about it that is so great, and why Alex can't even just reflexively be this, is because, yeah, that works for every president.
dan friesen
It does, but it's supposed to be Alex's criticism about politics.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And Trump is...
jordan holmes
About all politics.
dan friesen
Right.
And it has been for most of his career until Trump.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The only people who were above it were Rand Paul and Ron Paul, and now I guess Trump is...
Alex just pretends this criticism doesn't apply.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, what else do you say?
But, okay.
You kind of have to.
Because whenever you point out this stuff, people are like, oh, but they're not the same!
And you're like, fine.
You know?
Because that's what you have to say.
You have to say, fine, otherwise people get mad at you.
Because when you point out that the system doesn't work, they're like...
Well, we either change it or we just keep doing it dumb.
And changing is hard.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
So if you just don't think about how you're doing something stupidly, then you are doing it smart.
See?
dan friesen
This is wise.
jordan holmes
So just don't tell people about how stupid their system is.
dan friesen
Don't bring this up to Alex, because he's going to have to lesser of two evils you.
jordan holmes
See, that's going to be tough.
dan friesen
It's kind of embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it sucks.
dan friesen
The other thing that this caller was bringing up is RFK Jr., and Alex has said that he's going to war with him, because Alex had a little bit of an outburst about RFK a couple weeks back.
But now, when he's talking, he's like, I don't know, RFK said he'd come on the show, so I guess we'll talk to him.
If it were just down to him and Trump, I don't know, I'd do a coin flip, but he's hurting Trump more than Biden, so fuck this guy.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Yeah!
dan friesen
Yeah.
All right.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So the debate begins.
And here's where we're at.
jordan holmes
Okay.
jake tapper
We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world to our studios in Atlanta.
This is the CNN Presidential Debate.
dana bash
This debate is being produced by CNN and is coming to you live on CNN, CNN International, CNN.com, CNN Max.
jordan holmes
That's about as much as I can watch, too.
alex jones
This is going to have probably more viewers in the Super Bowl.
Let's go back to these two kleptocrats, these two teleprompter readers who have this lion marching into their den of hyenas.
Go back to them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You just can't even, like...
Watch this for a minute without just, I've got to pause this to talk some shit.
Which I can understand on some level.
Because if you're watching this, I don't think it feels good, even without Alex.
It feels like sports.
jake tapper
Before we introduce them, we want to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home.
Former President Trump will be on the left side of the screen.
President Biden will be appearing on the right.
A coin toss determines their positions.
Each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute each for responses and rebuttals.
An additional minute for follow-up clarification or response is at the moderator's discussion.
jordan holmes
Ah!
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
It just doesn't feel right.
You know, like the music, the way that the rules are being, it feels like it's the overtime rules are being explained to you in an NFL game.
It just doesn't feel good.
jordan holmes
I love the idea of them going to a composer and just being like, here's what we're going to play this for.
And then the composer coming back was just like, I call it the end.
Parentheses.
Of democracy.
dan friesen
I imagine it's stock music.
So we get the introductions of the candidates.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
In this corner.
jordan holmes
Yes!
unidentified
Weighing 215 pounds!
dan friesen
And Alex is immediately like, oh, Biden's on Adderall.
He's jacked up.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
jake tapper
Now, please welcome the 46th president of the United States, Joe Biden.
alex jones
Who stole the election!
unidentified
Folks, how are you?
alex jones
Folks, how are you?
Where do I go?
Don't even know.
He's jacked up on probably 10 Adderalls right now.
Look at that joke.
jake tapper
Please welcome the 45th president of the United States, Donald Trump.
alex jones
Notice you can hear Biden say thank you, thank you.
Trump's mic's turned off.
Notice the key.
Biden walks out, his mic's turned on.
dan friesen
Now, if you actually watch the video, Alex is correct.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can see that Trump does mouth thank you as he's entering, but his mic isn't on.
Part of a nefarious campaign to silence Trump.
But if I'm being fair about what Alex is saying, he isn't making that up.
Right.
unidentified
You'd think that he would make that up because it fits with the narrative that he's already preemptively laid the groundwork for.
dan friesen
But it's not made up.
He just appeared to have his mic off when he walks out.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, I wouldn't even be surprised if they had negotiated that.
You do not want Trump to have a hot mic on whenever he's not on camera.
We have evidence of that.
It should have kept him from being president way back when.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think there's probably a good chance of that.
Second, he's being introduced second, so maybe there's a little bit of a time delay between when they turned on the mics.
I don't know.
I don't think it's nefarious, but I just, I guess I'm pointing this out because it's a touching of reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex makes up a lot of shit, but that one wasn't made up just because it fits for him.
So, uh, remember the last time we had a Biden debate?
jordan holmes
No, I don't.
dan friesen
Do you remember anything that might have been injected into Biden?
jordan holmes
Uh, he was plumped.
dan friesen
He was plumped.
jordan holmes
He was plumped with, was it kids' blood?
dan friesen
It was bags of blood.
jordan holmes
It was bags of blood.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He should have plumped.
dan friesen
I was so excited that this is happening again.
jordan holmes
Okay.
joe biden
We had an economy that was in free fall.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, that's what he sounded like?
joe biden
Many people were dying.
All he said was it's not that serious.
alex jones
I guarantee you Biden has had the Lance Armstrong treatment.
joe biden
The economy collapsed.
alex jones
Blood doping.
joe biden
Those he's plumped.
harrison smith
Plumped up.
alex jones
Looks like he gained 10 pounds.
unidentified
They probably pumped five bags of blood into him.
alex jones
That's why he's been away for a week.
joe biden
Created 15,000 new jobs.
We brought out a position where...
alex jones
Probably got like 10-year-old blood.
That's what rich people do.
joe biden
But there's more to be done.
alex jones
I'm not joking.
joe biden
There's more to be done.
alex jones
He's got five bags of 10-year-old blood.
joe biden
I come from Scranton, Pennsylvania.
I come from a household.
dan friesen
Probably five bags of blood.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
I think last time it was 10 bags of blood.
So, you know, we're reducing the plumping.
jordan holmes
All right.
So maybe...
Let me throw this out at you.
Maybe Biden died, alright?
But Super Dave Osborne did not die.
They just did a switcheroo.
dan friesen
They switched them out during the two-minute delay.
jordan holmes
Because that's Super Dave.
I've heard a lot of Super Dave Osborne in my past.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's nuts.
dan friesen
So, I was so excited when I heard Alex use the word plumping.
Because I really thought he probably would have just forgotten that that was something that he accused him of.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's front and center again.
He's plumping!
jordan holmes
I like...
I think...
I saw some pictures.
I think maybe he should...
This is my problem.
Here's my problem.
dan friesen
You think he needs more blood?
jordan holmes
Here's my problem.
No.
My problem is the stuff they're talking about doesn't exist.
Right?
It would be way more cool if he was plumping because then plumping would be a thing that was real.
dan friesen
It would be really funny if Biden came out on stage and was like...
Oh, man.
I can't do this.
I'm feeling like shit.
I took too much blood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Yes.
dan friesen
I thought it was going to help.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
I plumped too much.
jordan holmes
I plumped.
Oh, I overplumped.
Or, like, he suddenly got blood streaming from his nose or something.
You know what?
Like, this would be more fun if it was real.
dan friesen
If there was a blood connection.
jordan holmes
Yeah, or even if any of this stuff was real.
Like, if...
Biden actually was even worse 20 minutes before the thing.
He was trash.
He was like, you know, fucking coughing.
He might as well.
But they have science now, and they're just like, oh, well, we can get him working for a good two hours, and then they do all the stuff, and then he looks great.
I'm fine with that.
I would rather have that than what we saw.
dan friesen
It would be interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you notice a trend, and it's very obvious, like even before I started watching this at all, that...
Alex was going to interrupt and yell over Biden, and he was not going to do much of that with Trump.
jordan holmes
Nope.
donald j trump
He did a great job.
We got a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military, and no wars, and so many other things.
Everything was rocking good.
But the thing we never got the credit for, and we should have, is getting us out of that COVID mess.
He created mandates that was a disaster for our country, but other than that, we had given them back a...
A country where the stock market actually was higher than pre-COVID.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's most of what Alex does when Trump's talking.
Just, good job.
Oh, he's killing it.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Oh, he's so good.
jordan holmes
I will say this.
That makes sense for Alex.
But if you are ostensibly a news network charged with the truth being somewhere near your programming and you let that go on, that was like 14 different things that are not true.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
But Alex is about the quote-unquote truth.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, I mean, that's great.
That's what you want a president to say about a thing that happened.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And if you can't get the thing that happened, at least he said it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I felt like there was a lack of commitment.
I know Alex is committed to Trump and what have you, but I felt like there was something about this that felt almost going through the motions.
Alex doing the stream of the debate, it didn't feel right.
jordan holmes
It wasn't like the old days.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, obviously, it's really hard for me to take some of my feelings out of this, because if this podcast...
There's a lot of places you could say it began or there were roots and seeds, but one of them is definitely watching the 2016 debates.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Me and my buddy Far Out watching some of these debates on Infowars and thinking like...
There's something up about these.
There's something going on with this show.
This news network isn't up above board.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's true.
dan friesen
What is happening here and wanting to, like, there's something that really sparked curiosity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't know if it's just because it's eight years later now, but watching a debate coverage on Infowars was definitely, like, it felt a lot flatter.
Alex has less mystery.
jordan holmes
I mean, but also it's just that there's no climax for this.
You know?
Like, this is...
dan friesen
Wow.
The hopeful climax is murder.
jordan holmes
Sure.
But I mean, that's kind of also what's going on here.
Everybody wants something to be entertaining.
I don't think anybody's taking this seriously, from CNN to Alex to anybody.
dan friesen
There's a hope for a spectacle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Alex, all the people calling, they're not saying, oh, I'm afraid Trump's gonna die.
They're saying...
That would make life more interesting if Trump died.
Because otherwise, it's very boring.
dan friesen
If I'm writing a script for what would keep me entertained, that's the next beat in the storyline.
jordan holmes
Tomorrow, I want to say this thing happened.
I don't want to go, well, nothing happened, and then move on with my day.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, oh well.
So, Biden talks a little bit about the economy, and Alex accuses him of lying.
You lie.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
joe biden
Well, look, the greatest economy in the world.
He's the only one who thinks that, I think.
I don't know anybody else who thinks he has the greatest economy in the world.
And, you know, the fact of the matter is that we pride ourselves in a situation where his economy went from the number three energy producer to number one overnight.
Two trillion dollars.
He raised a deficit larger than any president has in any one term.
alex jones
That's not true.
joe biden
He's the only president other than Herbert Hoover who's lost more jobs than he has.
alex jones
That's a total lie.
joe biden
Since Herbert Hoover.
alex jones
The deficit's been the biggest ever under Biden.
dan friesen
Actually, Alex is the one who's lying here.
The US is the top oil-producing country, but not the top energy producer.
And that's still true under Biden, despite Alex's claims to the contrary.
Also, Alex is entirely wrong that Biden has a bigger deficit than Trump.
Trump set the record with about $3.13 trillion, which has dropped to approximately $1.9 trillion now under Biden.
Probably in large part due to his massive tax cuts for the rich.
So, obviously, you're not going here for correct information.
And Alex is just going to lash out, and he's just going to be like, ah, fuck that.
Liar.
Liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the problem with words for us, right?
He's saying words that correspond to things that we think of as those words meaning.
But what he might as well be doing is just going, thumbs down.
Thumbs down!
Thumbs down!
You know?
dan friesen
Well, I think, obviously, that's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And as this goes on, I think Alex even gets bored of his own job.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, because that is all he needs to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is go, bah!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Bah!
jordan holmes
This sucks!
Wrong!
dan friesen
Fuck this guy!
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely!
What is it?
He's not there to provide some sort of intimate knowledge.
dan friesen
No one wants that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he can't do it anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So just talk about plumping.
jordan holmes
Okay.
donald j trump
But he had far more people dying in his administration.
He did the mandate, which is a disaster, mandating...
jordan holmes
Just the mandate?
donald j trump
Jesus Christ.
Which is the thing that people most objected to about the vaccine.
alex jones
Bet your dollar.
donald j trump
Bet your dollar.
Just a very poor job.
alex jones
Dude's plopping.
dan friesen
Five bags at least.
alex jones
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Five bags is so much blood.
Where would you even keep it?
dan friesen
Well, how big is the bag?
unidentified
Well, aren't they quarts?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
How much is a quart?
I genuinely don't know.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Looking at this can in front of me.
jordan holmes
What's a pint?
But it's fine.
dan friesen
No, I think you could get blood in different sized bags.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
I'm sure you can get bespoke bags of blood.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
For the president, of course.
dan friesen
I think that you're obviously thinking of the thing that's on like an IV grip.
jordan holmes
I think I was.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that might be uniform.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Five of those is a lot.
jordan holmes
That is a lot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Probably more than he took.
jordan holmes
How long does it...
So you've got...
So they're intravening.
It has to be like...
No, no.
dan friesen
He drank it.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
How do you even get five bags in there at speed?
You kind of ram blood in there?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So there's some...
Alex has some other just sort of talking shit kind of theories.
donald j trump
I'm friends with a lot of people.
They cannot believe what happened to the United States of America.
We're no longer respected.
alex jones
Biden's probably pooping himself right now.
donald j trump
I'm serious.
alex jones
He craps himself.
I believe he'll shit himself tonight.
I believe when Biden leaves the stage, he will be shitting his pants.
donald j trump
What this man has done is absolutely criminal.
alex jones
Oh, that's the poop face.
jake tapper
Will he squat?
dana bash
This is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v.
Wade.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I mean, just the juxtaposition of serious issues with Trump and Biden, and then on top of that, an added layer of Alex being like, will he squat?
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it is like, I think it's hard not to do two things, you know?
It's hard not to be like, Just removing myself from the whole thing and just looking at it and just being like, well, this is clearly too ridiculous to even...
What are we doing?
You know, there's that.
Right?
But then people think that you're not...
You don't care.
You know?
But then whenever I care...
Oh, man.
There's a lot of problems going on with just that little clip.
Do you know how many things...
Like, if you fixed...
If you just fixed...
The fact that Trump could say that stuff, and then CNN could have somebody be like, oh, this was the first presidential, instead of being like, what the fuck did you just do?
You know?
Like, how is that possible?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Ridiculous.
But I think it has to have happened gradually, you know?
But yeah, it is...
jordan holmes
And it's just amazing that you can be...
Because TV people are like that, though.
That's the amazing thing.
How could you possibly deliver that line?
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
But also, even take it back...
You made the Bob Dole-Clinton comparison.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Imagine Alex covering that and talking about someone being incontinent.
Like, imagine that.
That's even...
jordan holmes
That is crazy.
dan friesen
What have we done in terms of CNN?
Sure.
But what has Alex done, too?
There's been an erosion all across the board.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that Overton window became the empty fourth wall.
There's just no more fourth wall.
It's just gone.
dan friesen
So this moment I thought was really a really interesting moment.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Where there's actually a back and forth between Trump and Biden that the moderators let go on.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And then Alex gets really mad because they cut Trump's mic off.
joe biden
That's the last.
No politician should be making that decision.
A doctor should be making those decisions.
That's how it should be run.
alex jones
Oh, like the Virginia governor said.
We kill nine-month-old babies, keep them comfortable.
donald j trump
So that means he can...
Take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth, because some states, Democrats run, take it after birth.
Again, the governor, former governor of Virginia, put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it.
So he's going to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby.
Nobody wants that to happen, Democrat or Republican.
Nobody wants it to happen.
joe biden
That is simply not true.
Roe v.
Wade does not provide for that.
That's not the circumstance.
alex jones
By the way, CNN just broke their rule.
They're supposed to have a minute, a minute, two minutes, two minutes.
They just broke their rule right there for him.
donald j trump
Under Roe v.
Wade, you have late-term abortion.
You can do whatever you want, depending on the state.
You can do whatever you want.
We don't think that's a good thing.
We think it's a radical thing.
We think the Democrats are the radicals, not the Republicans.
joe biden
For 51 years, Constance of Scholarship said it was the right way to go.
alex jones
Yeah, and before that, we didn't kill babies.
5,000 years ago, we sacrificed kids to Moloch.
joe biden
It's okay.
alex jones
So now CNN doesn't know what to do.
They've unmuted both mics.
They've left their platform.
They've left their rules right now.
joe biden
And they pass a universal ban on abortion, period.
alex jones
CNN just abandoned their rules.
joe biden
Seven or eight or ten weeks.
Something very conservative.
If you're going to sign that bill, I'll veto it.
unidentified
He'll Thank you.
jake tapper
Boom!
alex jones
They just turned Trump's mic off.
They just gave Biden more time.
dan friesen
I thought this was actually a pretty interesting moment because they did move along and turn Trump's mic off there at the end.
But I don't think this works the way that Alex wants it to.
If you track back what happened in this full exchange, Biden was answering a question that was posed to him, and Trump was the one who first interjected when his mic was off.
That happened here, which you can hear.
This is from the beginning of the clip.
joe biden
That's the last.
No politician should be making that decision.
A doctor should be making those decisions.
That's how it should be run.
alex jones
Oh, like the Virginia governor said.
We kill nine-month-old babies, keep them comfortable.
donald j trump
So that means he can...
Take the life of the baby in the ninth month.
dan friesen
So this was the actual point where you could argue that the moderators let things go.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Biden was answering a question and Trump gave a rebuttal.
Biden then responded to that and there was a back and forth and then the moderators took over and moved on to another topic.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I think this is actually probably fine in terms of moderation outside of the fundamental problem that they're just letting Trump lie constantly.
This was as close to a civil back and forth as you were probably going to get from these two candidates.
So I think it was pretty...
Fair to let them each respond to each other.
There was a bit of a flow.
There was actual thematic connection between the things they were saying.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They weren't just like, hey, you're a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
No, you are.
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I think there's value to just letting that go.
And Alex is pretending like, you need to play my rules.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, see, but this is the crux of it.
This is what it gets down to.
You're telling me that on one side of this debate stage is a man who has nuclear weapons.
And then on the other side of this debate's page is a man who used to have nuclear weapons, right?
And the one guy saying stuff is like, hey, we should do stuff and this stuff.
And then the other guy says, the Democrats murder human beings after they're born.
dan friesen
Capriciously.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And everybody's like, okay, well, we'll just continue doing this like this is not an insane thing that a human being just said.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That everybody was just like, oh.
The former president of the United States just said, oh, in some states, you can murder people.
The Democrats love it.
And we all just went on with it.
If you're born, it's murder to kill you.
dan friesen
Except when the Democrats do it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no, no.
So inside the womb, not born, abortion.
Outside the womb, murder.
dan friesen
What about the Virginia governor?
jordan holmes
Go home.
dan friesen
I mean, this is...
It does underpin, you know, just the fact that we're not talking about the debate.
We're talking about Alex's coverage of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is, like, there's a criticism, obviously, that is in the background of this and that we couldn't overstate more.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Enough.
It's just the, like, this is happening.
jordan holmes
This is stupid.
dan friesen
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Ridiculous.
dan friesen
But Alex's coverage of it is further ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Man, I don't want, like...
I don't even want to vote against somebody for whom I have to explain what murder is.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't even want to give the dignity of voting.
That guy, because either this is, there's only two possibilities.
Either he does not know what murder is, or he's lying to get stuff by lying about murder.
dan friesen
I think it's probably the second, because you can hear the way that Alex is so excited.
He's like, boom.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You're saying my talking points.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
I'm seeing myself mirroring.
jordan holmes
Virginia governor.
He said Virginia governor.
I'm on the debate stage, too.
The TV's talking to me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think that that's somewhat calculated.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think Alex gets a little bit bored because Biden's not as bad as he thought he was going to be.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's not really that entertaining.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And Trump is doing fine.
So Alex is just kind of...
I feel like he checks out pretty early.
donald j trump
Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away with $60 billion.
He's the greatest salesman ever.
And I'm not knocking him, I'm not knocking anything.
I'm only saying, the money that we're spending on this war, and we shouldn't be spending, it should have never happened.
I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky as president-elect before I take office on January 20th.
I'll have that war settled.
alex jones
Trump is completely dominating, despite CNN giving extra time to Biden.
Trump's going to win a landslide.
I'm just going to say this right now.
Total domination.
Go back to it.
dan friesen
Total domination.
He's so fucking bored.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's just making up the CNN numbers like, oh, they're giving more time to it.
But that's the track that's already been laid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it works either way.
If Trump's dominating, even with Biden having more time, it still works.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Hold on to that one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So I think he just got so bored that he starts breaking out voices.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Sounds like a little bit of a Darth Vader impression.
dana bash
President Biden, you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict, but so far Hamas has not released the remaining hostages, and Israel is continuing its military offensive in Gaza.
Is that what we're calling it?
So what additional leverage will you use to get Hamas and Israel to end the war?
You have two minutes.
joe biden
Number one.
Everyone from the United Nations Security Council straight through to the G7.
alex jones
He's disintegrating.
joe biden
The Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan I put forward.
Endorsed the plan I put forward.
Which has three stages to it.
alex jones
You're free to use any means necessary.
I want them alive.
No disintegrations.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
That's empire, baby.
That's what I'm here for.
Shut the fuck up about your foreign policy.
Oh my god.
dan friesen
I just sense, like, this isn't as exciting as I wanted it to be.
That's what you get from him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's definitely felt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think everybody felt that.
dan friesen
Probably.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has the Knights of the InfoWars roundtable.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
We gotta get the genius crew.
dan friesen
Harrison.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Owen.
Chase.
Alex.
jordan holmes
Fucking hell.
dan friesen
Just a murderer's row.
Just the best.
And so Alex is asking Chase for his take.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because Biden's talking.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then immediately cuts him off because Trump is going to talk.
alex jones
I agree.
Chase, you want to say something?
chase geiser
Yeah, well, back to Trump.
alex jones
Back to Trump.
Back to you.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Sure.
donald j trump
I've spent $100 billion or maybe more than that, less than us.
Why doesn't he call them so you've got to put up your money like I did with NATO?
I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars.
The Secretary General of NATO said Trump did the most incredible job I've ever seen.
They were going out of business.
We were spending almost 100% of the money that was paid by us.
He didn't do that.
You've got to ask these people to put up the money.
We're over $100 billion more spent, and it has a bigger impact on them.
Because of location, because we have an ocean in between.
You've got to ask them.
As far as Israel and Hamas, Israel's the one that wants to go.
He said the only one that wants to keep going is Hamas.
Actually, Israel is the one.
And you should let him go and let him finish the job.
He doesn't want to do it.
He's become like a Palestinian.
But they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian.
He's a weak one.
dana bash
President Biden, do you have a minute?
alex jones
Oh, that's all true.
joe biden
You're going to stay in NATO?
He's going to pull out of NATO.
alex jones
He made NATO pony up.
joe biden
Our strength lies in our lives.
alex jones
Trump is transactional.
Fade down Biden.
Let's go to Chase Geiser and Harrison Smith.
You want to comment?
We don't need to hear.
People who want Biden, you can tune into that.
We're giving commentary.
dan friesen
People who want your Biden, go somewhere else.
We're just going to talk over and then listen to Trump adoringly.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
unidentified
That is an amazing way of engaging with the debate.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
dan friesen
It's exactly what you would expect from Infowars, but it is still a little bit on the nose.
Even for Alex.
It's a little bit...
A little transparent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I think that was such a...
That was such a great exchange.
Maybe the reason that everybody is really hammering on...
Biden's age has, like, a narrative, like, should he stay in?
Should he drop out because of the age thing?
It's because if you listen to what either of these men are saying, they're disqualifying themselves.
dan friesen
It's outrageous what Trump is saying there.
jordan holmes
Trump just said commit genocide on television to the world, and we're all like, well, you know him.
dan friesen
And he's taken on using the word Palestinian as almost like a pejorative term that he's throwing around.
It's just ridiculous.
It's offensive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, yeah.
Neither of them should be president, Dan.
I'm going to be honest with you.
dan friesen
Neither of them should.
On this issue, they both were...
jordan holmes
They have disqualified themselves as human beings.
dan friesen
They were just arguing over who supports Israel more.
And it was very...
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
It's tough.
jordan holmes
How many do you want to kill?
unidentified
All?
jordan holmes
Aha!
I'm a good person.
I just want to kill most on this quote-unquote military offensive.
We don't want to use words.
dan friesen
So Alex is...
He's of the mind.
That the whole thing is rigged.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because of the question selection.
That's now what we're going with.
And this is proven by the fact that they bring up January 6th.
The fact that that came up is an anti-Trump action.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
History is anti-Trump.
alex jones
I think Biden's getting 20% more time here.
owen shroyer
Maybe, but that's not helping him.
I mean, unintentionally, it's hurting him.
alex jones
No, I agree with you, Owen.
There's definitely shaving here.
Let's go back.
jake tapper
What do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction on January 6th and worry that you'll do it again?
donald j trump
Well, I don't think too many believe that.
And let me tell you about January 6th.
On January 6th, we had a great border.
Nobody coming through.
alex jones
See, now it's all anti-Trump crap.
donald j trump
On January 6th, we were energy independent.
alex jones
Oh, God, five cops got beat up.
Five citizens got killed.
It's about January 6th.
This is where the rigging comes in.
Get ready, folks.
Now the real rigging's about to happen.
Any of the questions?
dan friesen
Yep, it's rigged because they asked about January 6th when Trump's...
Followers overtook the Capitol.
Harrison, one of the Knights of the Infowars roundtable, said the Capitol has fallen.
The Patriots are in charge.
So weird that that would come up in a presidential debate.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I'm fascinated by that question.
So that's an interesting question to have on a TV debate.
Because if you're going to be like, hey, January 6th to the president, it makes far more sense to be like, hey, Mr. President, January 6th goes your way.
Do you murder me?
Do you murder Mike Pence?
Who do you start killing?
I'm a TV journalist.
I'll probably be like, it's bad that you killed the president and are now the president.
dan friesen
Instead, Trump's like, January 6th, let me tell you about January 6th.
It was sunny.
Everyone had a good time.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
It is an insane thing to ask a question about that that's not like, hey, what happens if you win, buddy?
How is that not the question?
dan friesen
I think that it's probably too hard a question.
You don't want the answer.
jordan holmes
I mean, the answer is he starts killing people.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
So that would mean he shouldn't be president!
dan friesen
Do you think Jake Tapper would have made the cut?
jordan holmes
God, man.
But that's the reason that Trump is going to win, because people are like, eh, maybe he's going to kill Jake Tapper.
Fuck that guy.
dan friesen
So Alex gets pumped here about Trump's going to go for the kill.
He's going in for it.
donald j trump
The unselect committee, which is...
Basically, two horrible Republicans that are all gone now.
And Democrats.
All Democrats.
They destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right.
alex jones
Including my testimony.
donald j trump
We were right.
And they deleted and destroyed all of the information.
They should go to jail for that.
If a Republican did that, they'd go to jail.
jake tapper
Thank you, President.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you, President.
joe biden
He's a convicted felonist man I'm looking at.
alex jones
And if Trump defends himself, it breaks the gag order.
joe biden
The fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up in Capitol Hill.
alex jones
So Biden directed his Soros people to do this, and now he just called him a criminal.
Trump's about to tear him a new asshole.
joe biden
Get ready.
It's happening right now.
alex jones
Get ready.
Trump's ready.
joe biden
Here we go.
alex jones
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Those people are patriots?
joe biden
Come on.
alex jones
The scene will try to interrupt.
This is it.
This is the key right here.
joe biden
The debates we had the first time around.
I said, will you denounce the Proud Boys?
He said, no, I'll tell them.
alex jones
Proud Boys did nothing.
joe biden
The idea he's refusing, will you denounce these guys?
Will you denounce the people we're talking about now?
Will you denounce the people?
alex jones
Owen is right.
No one cares about January 6th and Proud Boys.
jake tapper
I'm going to give you a minute, President Trump, for a follow-up question I have.
alex jones
Boom!
jake tapper
Didn't want Trump responding.
There's the rigging.
dan friesen
Trump can choose to answer or not answer their questions.
If he wants to respond to something Biden said, he can do that.
I just think that is a little bit disappointing for Alex.
I think he really thought this was going to be the you puppet moment or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But there wasn't the haymaker thrown.
jordan holmes
Boy, that Biden shirt coming in with, do you denounce them now?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Probably did nothing wrong.
jordan holmes
This is what I'm saying.
It's Game of Thrones.
We have to enshrine that into law.
Of all the laws that there are, if you try and overthrow somebody and you lose, you die.
unidentified
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's it.
No questions asked.
I know you've got opinions.
Don't care.
You're dead.
You tried to overthrow.
Now you're dead.
Because I can't be having this conversation later on where the president is like, hey, do you denounce those guys?
No, of course not!
unidentified
Next time, I'm going to use them to take over the fucking country, you idiots!
dan friesen
What are we doing?!
Yeah, it seems outside of his best interest to denounce.
The people who are willing to try to overthrow the government on his behalf.
unidentified
Of course not!
jordan holmes
I'm going to let them out of prison, you fucking insane old man!
unidentified
Why would I denounce them?
dan friesen
Seems like a dumb question to ask.
jordan holmes
That is a dumb question.
dan friesen
So this stream that Alex is doing, I would say, has devolved from the point where there was...
At the beginning, there was a little bit of a pretense of we're going to analyze this, we're going to cover it, we're going to actually listen to it.
And now it's devolved to just, like, knee-jerk reactions.
donald j trump
He basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me.
But when the public found out about these cases, because they understand it better than he, he has no idea what these cases are.
But when they found out about these cases, you know what they did?
My poll numbers went up way up.
You know that because you're reporting it.
And we've taken more money in the last two weeks than we've ever taken in the history of any campaign.
I don't think any campaign has ever taken hundreds of millions of dollars because the public knows it's a scam and it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square.
jake tapper
Thank you, President Trump.
President Biden, you have said...
Donald Trump and his MAGA Republicans are determined to destroy American democracy.
Do you believe that the tens of millions of Americans who are likely to vote for President Trump will be voting against American democracy?
joe biden
The more they know about what he's done, yes.
alex jones
Another rigged question.
joe biden
The more they know about what he's done.
alex jones
People voting is now against democracy.
joe biden
He's got a lot of cases down the road coming out.
alex jones
He's got a lot of cases, see, to stop him from you being able to vote for him.
joe biden
I don't know what the juries will do, but I do know he has a real problem.
alex jones
Boom, bitch!
Get out the way!
Move out the way, bitch!
Get out the way!
joe biden
You ever hear any president say that I thought Hitler had some good ideas?
Never said that, you lying punk.
dan friesen
Okay, so this, I mean, it's just a bad commentary track, kind of.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, I would prefer a Flava Flav that knew, or like a Beastie Boy, you know?
End on the rhyme.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, don't cut in on the wrong, but you've got to catch the meter.
He's just doing it wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just underwhelming.
And then I realized when he started quoting Ludacris, what was going on here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'll explain after this next clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
donald j trump
He made up the Charlottesville story, and you'll see it's debunked all over the place.
Every reasonable anchor has debunked it.
And just the other day it came out where it was fully debunked.
It's a nonsense story.
alex jones
He knows that.
donald j trump
And he didn't run because of Charlottesville.
He used that as an excuse to run.
jake tapper
President Biden?
joe biden
And debunk.
alex jones
And now that Biden's going to talk, let's play Lydicrous right now.
joe biden
Listen to what was said at the time.
alex jones
Move, bitch!
Get out the way!
dan friesen
Alex is trying to just recapture 2016.
That's what's going on here.
He got a lot of media attention and people made little parody videos of him singing Move.
And he's just trying to replay this.
It's like somebody living out or trying to live out 2016 again and it's not exciting.
There is nothing.
It's derivative.
There's no electricity through it.
jordan holmes
That's what I feel is being done to all of us, is people like Alex in the media and power structures that exist, and they're just trying to do 2016 again.
But it sucks this time.
It's not entertaining.
It's not fun.
Nobody's coming along with their, like...
Maybe this is kind of crazy, but isn't it okay?
Everybody's really fucking tired.
We just got through a pandemic, and this is what they're showing us.
dan friesen
Yeah, and there was something...
I know that it wasn't the beginning of online culture or anything like that, but there was something...
Novel about the way that trolling was intersecting with the real world in 2015, 2016.
jordan holmes
Gamergate had only happened in 2014.
dan friesen
Yeah, there was that chaoticness that I think now a lot of people are weary of.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they've grown used to.
jordan holmes
Because it's everywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because it's in order.
Because you can't even buy a beer without somebody being like, oh, they hired somebody you don't like.
dan friesen
Because Elon Musk owns Twitter.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Like, it's...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's just...
This is exhausting.
jordan holmes
It's exhausting.
dan friesen
I think it's really pathetic, the way that Alex is just trying to play the hits, basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he just wants to listen to Luda.
jordan holmes
Don't we all?
alex jones
All right, they're going to break.
Trump just did 45 minutes and knocked the living hell out of Biden.
Even though all the questions are anti-Trump, they shaved six, seven minutes off Trump, but despite all the rigging, you know, let's not watch their ad.
Let's go back to the Ludacris song.
Go keep rolling.
See them headlights?
I'm DUI, I never pull over.
You better move the fuck over.
dan friesen
Look, I know the headlights line is one of the only ones that Alex remembers from this song, but that isn't actually a ludicrous line.
That was said by noted sex offender Mystical.
So Alex maybe should be more careful with the lines that he's quoting.
jordan holmes
Mystical with a K. Yep.
dan friesen
And a Y. And a Y. Oh, that's right.
Noted no-limit soldier and sexual offender.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex plays the whole song.
So then he comes back, and then he just leaves.
alex jones
I had to play that because we played that before we beat Hillary.
dan friesen
We know.
alex jones
So many years ago.
Almost eight years ago, folks.
And we're just saying, get out the way.
We're done.
Let's go back to their stupid mattress commercials on CNN.
I mean, CNN has no viewers until now.
Let's go back.
Whoever wants to show on Harrison, Owen, Chase, yeah, fade down the mattress.
You guys want to comment on this?
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, it's Biden nap time.
This mattress commercial is brought to you by a good Biden nap.
So they had to make sure to squeeze in a Biden nap time.
Ludacris is from Atlanta.
The debate is in Atlanta.
So that's some local color there, Alex.
unidentified
Oh.
Oh.
chase geiser
Keep going.
owen shroyer
Well, I would just say that there's no doubt Biden has gotten more time.
dan friesen
So I didn't...
I didn't make this clear enough, probably, and that is that the knights are not all in the same round table.
I don't believe.
I think Owen's in the other studio, so he probably didn't realize that Alex had gotten up and was no longer there.
alex jones
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, maybe he's being forced to be in the other studio because he live-streamed the last time and showed Alex possibly throwing up at his mouth.
chase geiser
Could be.
Could be.
jordan holmes
You're not allowed here anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But for whatever reason, Alex is gone again.
unidentified
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex has remembered Ludacris and now just wants to yell, move, bitch, over Biden.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, that sounds fun.
alex jones
Yeah, these questions are all rigged.
It's all leftist talking points.
That's how they're rigging us the questions.
joe biden
That doesn't matter as more small black businesses that have been started at any time in history.
alex jones
By the way, I sent you the clip this morning again of him saying, if you are black, can I catch you with one little piece of crack 20 years in prison next to his son smoking crack?
Can we get that footage?
Just type in, Biden talks about crack smoking on X. I said to you this morning again.
I said to you yesterday.
Chew that up.
Because if you want to just get Biden folks and them giving him more time, all the cheating, go see the feed with them.
We're here giving commentary.
We're like, move, bitch!
Get out the way!
Get out the way, bitch!
Move out the way!
Move, bitch!
Get out the way!
Get out the way, bitch!
joe biden
Get out the way!
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex...
Seems a little different than when this started.
jordan holmes
Does seem a little bit more energetic right now.
In the instant.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's something about his demeanor that is...
jordan holmes
Sounds like he's been plumping.
dan friesen
Maybe plumping.
jordan holmes
He might be plumping a little bit.
He's got five bags of blood, I'll tell you what.
You bet your bottom dollar there's a plumper in there.
dan friesen
I'm fascinated by this, too, because it's so on the nose and so exactly what you would expect from Alex, but there is this, like, I'm bored by this.
Show me a meme.
I want a meme.
Give me a meme.
I almost feel like it's impossible to parody.
Because it is a joke of itself.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, I mean, it's so, like, what would I say?
Normally, the four-year cycle, or the, you know, it feels like a cycle.
There's something about 2016 and 2024 that feels like two mugshots for Alex.
You know what I'm saying?
Before and after is what it feels like we're hitting the wall against right now.
We're not waiting for his next cycle.
This is when he hit the wall.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like the beginning of the roller coaster.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Having downward momentum.
Yeah.
And it feels similarly sort of with him now because of the impendingness of InfoWars is going to be probably gone before too long.
He will not be, necessarily.
That does make this have the same sort of like, well, we're coming over another hill here.
Yep, yep.
But yeah, Alex just wants to yell.
alex jones
By the way, you just saw Biden get three minutes, Trump just got 60 seconds.
So now Biden's 10 minutes ahead of Trump, or nine minutes.
So, I mean, I'm watching this.
You're watching it too, right?
That's why I'm talking over him.
The son of a bitch is talking the whole time.
joe biden
...individuals who are involved in communities, including minority communities.
We made sure that they have health insurance.
alex jones
Move, bitch.
Oh, blacks need to take the shot.
We shouldn't take it.
Let the blacks take it.
I love you.
joe biden
If you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
alex jones
Move, bitch.
Get out the way.
Get out the way, bitch.
Does he ever shut the fuck up?
jordan holmes
Good question.
alex jones
He's been going on for fucking, I mean, that's like 15 minutes more now.
joe biden
That is a good question.
unidentified
I mean, sir, folks, I'm keeping score right here.
alex jones
It's over 10 minutes extra of this guy in less than an hour.
joe biden
There's a lot going on.
alex jones
Trump, you now get 10 seconds.
Biden, you get three minutes.
joe biden
Trump, you get one minute.
alex jones
Biden, you get four minutes.
dana bash
Another persistent challenge is the climate crisis.
unidentified
You know what?
dan friesen
There's something really strange about this, and I don't know if it's just comparison, but I think Biden comes off better on Alex's stream than when I just watched it.
jordan holmes
100%.
Biden comes off great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, there's just this lunatic yelling over a seemingly gentle old man.
That's fine.
I would let the gentle old man who's whispering run the country as long as there's a screaming crazy guy right next to him.
Like, hey, well, fucking go for it, old man.
dan friesen
And if you have Alex, who's so clearly just, like, unhinged and full of shit, and he's opposed to this person, it kind of makes your brain just kind of...
You lose all of the nuance of anything.
jordan holmes
It's hard.
dan friesen
It's hard.
jordan holmes
Your brain handles the lessers of two evils and just goes like, hey man, one of these is a fucking volcano.
We'll avoid the rest later.
dan friesen
And the other thing I noticed, the Biden looks better on Alex's stream, which is ironic.
And the other thing I noticed is that there's just no way to understand anything that's going on.
Yeah, I mean, I remember watching debates.
jordan holmes
For, you know, when I was younger and hearing them do the thing when I was younger that I found to be the most annoying and frustrating and, like, that thing that makes you feel like politics is bullshit where they're, like, asked a direct question and they go, thank you for that question and then they go on about something else and they never answer the question, you know?
And it is like when I was a kid watching that, I was like, that's how you know they're all full of shit because they won't answer direct questions.
This is, like...
This is like fanfic being written from questions that aren't even being asked.
You know, like, how do you feel about the climate crisis?
Alright, let me tell you about how I'm gonna fist fight...
dan friesen
Well, it's not answering direct questions and then also doing a, like, firework show in order to divert attention.
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Trump, he talks about how he's got great environmental policies and did, and Biden ruined them all.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then Alex does something that he does a fair amount of in this, which is just call Joe Biden a pedophile repeatedly.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's great.
dana bash
President Trump, will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis?
donald j trump
I want absolutely immaculate, clean water, and I want absolutely clean air.
jordan holmes
Turn it off.
Turn off his mic.
donald j trump
What are we doing?
We had H2O.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
Why would you allow him to say that?
donald j trump
And yet, during my four years, I had the best environmental numbers.
Ever.
And my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before I walked on the stage, actually.
joe biden
I don't know where the hell he's been.
The idea that anything he said is true.
alex jones
You fucking pedophile.
Fuck you.
joe biden
Most extensive climate change legislation in history.
dan friesen
This is just nuts.
I mean, I know for a fact that Trump is making shit up because Trump said...
My advisors gave me the stat just before I walked on stage.
jordan holmes
I mean, you're joking.
unidentified
You're not really going to allow him to get away with...
dan friesen
He's a kid bluffing a book report.
jordan holmes
I had the best environmental numbers ever.
I know that statistic because my people just handed it to me.
Best environmental numbers?
What are you fucking talking about?
dan friesen
I know you're about to go out on stage for this debate, but I have to tell you...
jordan holmes
You've got the best environmental numbers!
Ever!
dan friesen
Woo, what a relief.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
I was going to go out there.
I was terrified that my environmental numbers were only okay.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen
So, yeah, this is just farce.
jordan holmes
And then there was a TV...
They're amazing.
They're truly amazing, is that they were there.
They had a straight face.
They listened to the former president say, I have the best environmental numbers ever.
And then they're like, Mr. Biden, what do you think?
dan friesen
There's a desperation for impartiality that is working against reality.
That is what I'm afraid we're up against.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is...
Excuse me, Mr. Wolf, you see that lamb over there?
How do you feel about it?
Love it.
It's my favorite thing.
dan friesen
So good.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
I have the best lamb numbers.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Yes!
Absolutely!
No, you're going to kill it and eat it!
Just say you're going to kill it and eat it!
I want you to kill it and eat it at this point!
dan friesen
My advisor just told me about how great my lamb policy is.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
So, Alex, his urge to see memes gets the best of him.
And he has now reverted to, at this point in the debate, playing when Trump's talking, and then when Biden's talking, playing old videos and memes of him.
And so...
Alex plays a clip of Biden talking about school busing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I was so baffled by this.
alex jones
God, Biden just talked for three minutes.
joe biden
He's talking again.
He acknowledged after that he fired that general.
That general got fired because he's the one that acknowledged that that's what he said.
He was the one standing with Trump.
alex jones
Back to the racial jungle video.
joe biden
Number one.
Number two.
The idea that we're going to be in a situation where...
unidentified
I come from that side of the track.
That's where I'm from.
I was a defense lawyer.
I handled civil rights cases.
I sat in on Route 40. I mean, you know, I'm not from the other side of this.
And I happen to think that the one way to ensure that you set the civil rights movement in America further back is to continue to push busing.
Because it's a bankrupt policy.
And that's why I think I'll be vindicated.
I don't include myself with pro or anti-busing forces.
I think the only group that can determine whether or not a constitutional violation exists are the federal courts of the United States of America.
No one else has that right.
Secondly, a federal court of the United States of America determining a violation of the Constitution with regard to school desegregation cases must find that there is a specific intent to segregate.
alex jones
All right, we're going to go back to the urban jungle point about blacks, but let's go back to CNN.
dan friesen
Because Biden's done talking, we'll go back to the debate.
So look, obviously, I mean, Biden's policies and his ideas about busing sucked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he should be responsible for those positions that he had.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But Alex...
Wouldn't be opposed to segregation at schools.
jordan holmes
He wants segregation.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He would be opposed to desegregation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know why he's, of all people...
jordan holmes
Because he thinks it makes a point.
I just don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
dan friesen
This is Biden being closer to Alex's position.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is what Alex would try and get away with saying instead of being like, I'm a racist.
He would be like, I agree with Joe Biden.
dan friesen
And this is from many years ago.
I don't know.
I don't know what's gained by this.
So you mentioned golf being an argument that they had.
And that does come up.
I would say that it's one of the low points of...
jordan holmes
Life?
America?
unidentified
Yeah.
donald j trump
We knock on wood wherever we may have wood.
That I'm in very good health.
I just won two club championships, not even senior.
Two regular club championships.
To do that, you have to be quite smart.
You have to be able to hit the ball a long way.
And I do it.
He doesn't do it.
He can't hit a ball 50 yards.
He challenged me to a golf match.
He can't hit a ball 50 yards.
I think I'm in very good shape.
I feel that I'm as in good a shape as I was 25, 30 years ago.
Actually, I'm probably a little bit lighter.
But I'm in as good a shape as I was.
Uh, years ago, I feel very good.
alex jones
Trump routinely means professional golfers.
donald j trump
I was willing to take a cognitive test.
alex jones
And you know what?
donald j trump
If I didn't do well, I aced him.
Dr. Ronnie Jackson, who's a great guy when he was a White House doctor.
alex jones
And for those who don't know, golf is hard, folks.
donald j trump
And both, one of them said they've never seen anybody ace him.
dana bash
Thank you.
President Biden?
joe biden
You can see he's 65 and only 223 pounds.
Or 235 pounds.
Well, he said 6 '4", 200.
Just take a look at what he says he is.
Take a look at what he is.
Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him.
When I was vice president.
alex jones
Play golf with Trump next week.
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Do it!
alex jones
Oh, my God.
This is so sick.
joe biden
Think you can do it?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
donald j trump
He's a sixth handicap of all.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
joe biden
I'm a captain.
unidentified
I've seen it this way.
Let's not act like children.
dan friesen
Let's not act like children.
I've seen your swing, Joe.
jordan holmes
I love it.
I love this.
dan friesen
When I say it's a low point, I do want to clarify that other things that he said and ideas that he has and policies and shit are way worse.
But there's something that is so dystopian about these two arguing about this.
jordan holmes
Oh, do you mean these two people who have both currently or continuously committed genocide are arguing on stage on television about their golf swings?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You think that is a problem?
dan friesen
There's a layer to it that really is grim.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I do think that Alex's engagement with it...
Is almost the only way I can handle anything.
And that is, there's this person who is supposed to be a commentator and the tip of the spear, and the ultimate truth-sayer, who is just talking about how great Trump is at golf, how hard golf is, and when this exchange is going down, his take is, let's do it!
Let's have a golf contest!
jordan holmes
I think it's great!
I think we should!
It's so dark.
I thoroughly agree.
I thoroughly agree.
And here's what I'm doing.
Like I said, I'm trying to do this.
I'm trying to remove the idea that I'm just doing my job as ever acceptable.
Everyone's always personal responsible.
Everybody's always personally responsible.
And if you don't like that and you don't want to do something because, oh, you'll get fired, too bad.
Then you have to just take responsibility for it.
Biden and Trump are doing exactly what they are.
The people who are in trouble here are at CNN.
The people who are in trouble are everybody around these people.
These are people who are capable of saying, hey, you know what?
I'm going to get fired, but this is too dumb for me.
unidentified
I'm out.
jordan holmes
And they could.
And then somebody else, maybe somebody else will take their place, or maybe somebody else will go, hey, this is too fucking terrible for me.
I'm out.
And then we'll all be done.
dan friesen
I think...
Look, I don't want to pretend that I understand everybody's reasons for making the decisions that they're making.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so I'll be a little bit less than you.
jordan holmes
You're a better person than me.
dan friesen
But there is...
I don't disagree with you that the conception of this debate...
It was flawed from the beginning.
The idea of putting this on and not having any moment of what the fuck are you talking about is, like I said, it's the obsession with impartiality eroding reality in a way that I think it is irresponsible.
jordan holmes
It is a joke.
It is a joke.
And it's fairly easy to see why, like...
Why so many people have turned to Alex and Tucker and all of that stuff is because the alternative sounds...
It looks insane.
I never watch TV news, but if I watched that and I saw these people behave the way they did, Trump makes sense to me.
Trump is behaving exactly how Trump behaves.
You people are behaving like you're in a completely different universe.
dan friesen
A liar will lie if you allow them to lie.
And he's being allowed to lie.
And so it makes total sense that he...
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't he try and get away with me?
dan friesen
Yeah, if this old man over here tries to push back, I'm gonna beat him up.
jordan holmes
Right, and these two people who are sitting in front of me are the most vacuous and empty-headed people I've ever seen in my entire fucking life.
dan friesen
Maybe not, but by design in the context of this debate, that is the role that they're filling.
jordan holmes
Aha, personal responsibility.
Either you are a vacuous, worthless piece of shit, or you're doing this just to keep your job.
In which case, you're a worthless, vacuous piece of shit that has a job.
dan friesen
It's attention.
jordan holmes
That's the rule.
dan friesen
So the debate ends, and we immediately get an update on the response that people have had.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Even Drudge says it's a disaster.
He's a Democrat operative now.
Harrison, Owen?
harrison smith
Yeah, well, I'm just, again, just checking out what some of the leftists on Twitter are saying.
Andrew Yang.
Post, guys, the Democrats should nominate someone else before it's too late, and the hashtag SwapJoeOut is now trending.
dan friesen
So Drudge is a Democratic operative now, and Andrew Yang is a leftist.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The guy who tried to make a moderate party is a leftist.
jordan holmes
Well, one time he said something about UBI, so it doesn't get more leftist than that, Dan.
dan friesen
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Money for nothing?
I want my chicks for free.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Chase.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I mentioned this earlier, the idea that someone gives voice to the idea that maybe they set Biden up to fail.
jordan holmes
It has to be a conspiracy.
dan friesen
So Chase is the one bringing that in.
jordan holmes
Good.
chase geiser
If the Democrats really universally supported Joe Biden, every talking head, every pundit would be very careful and cautious and wary about how they responded to this.
But since there's unilateral criticism of Biden, it implies to me that this was a setup for Biden.
This was the plan the whole time to make Biden look like a disaster.
And I know that Roger Stone thinks it's going to be Big Mike, and he's a brilliant man.
He's right so many times.
And I know that Owen earlier today made some very reasonable remarks as to why he doesn't think it's going to be Hillary Clinton.
But I really think Hillary Clinton is going to replace Joe Biden here for a couple of reasons.
alex jones
By the way, they're even hiding down the Washington Post.
chase geiser
I think it's going to be Hillary, guys.
I could be nuts, but I'm really good.
alex jones
Where's the Lost Ark?
Where he's putting the bag of Cena with the idol.
They're trying to find out for Hillary.
And I agree with you, Chase.
dan friesen
Good thinking, Brendan.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Do it.
jordan holmes
Fucking do it.
I want that.
I want that so bad.
I want it so bad.
dan friesen
I don't.
But they do.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
That'd be the best day of their lives.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hillary?
unidentified
Yes!
Woo!
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So Owen's not so into the Hillary argument.
jordan holmes
Sure, because you'd have to be an insane person to think for one second that they would bring back Hillary Clinton.
dan friesen
Unless you've seen Raiders of the Lost Ark.
So here's Owen's imaginary argument with a fictional person from the left.
owen shroyer
I think the problem they have with bringing Hillary Clinton to the front is the narrative.
How do you explain it?
How do you explain leapfrogging Kamala Harris?
And they might say, oh, well, it was stolen from Hillary.
She legitimately won.
Well, okay, so now you're an election denier?
So I just see too many traps in the narrative for them to bring Hillary forward.
Now, that doesn't mean they might not use Hillary as kind of a leaping platform for whoever it is or say, oh, we'll bring in the great Hillary as a vice or maybe we bring her in as the State Department again.
dan friesen
Owen certainly did destroy that argument that no one made.
They had quite a rebuttal to the argument of Hillary got it stolen from her, so she should...
Who's making that argument?
Imaginary people in Owen's head, and that's why he's such a good debater.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is...
Sometimes it does hurt.
It does hurt to be smeared so often as a leftist.
Because nobody really knows what that is in the United States.
dan friesen
It's Andrew Yang.
jordan holmes
They don't really...
dan friesen
It's a drudge.
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it doesn't exist here.
So people are just making it up.
dan friesen
Well, you know, you come back to your complaint about words.
Words don't have meaning.
jordan holmes
They don't.
It sucks.
dan friesen
So Harrison.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
One of the other knights.
He has a different theory, and he thinks that maybe what's going to happen is that Trump's going to win, and then they're going to kill him.
jordan holmes
Okay, yeah!
dan friesen
This is a lot of assassination talk.
jordan holmes
That's more fun.
harrison smith
I think assassination is not off the table.
I don't think they do it before the presidential race, but if you just think about...
These people who their job is to manipulate the consciousness of masses of people.
You want to build up, build up, build up, have the Trump victory.
Everybody's celebrating.
The left goes crazy because, you know, they've got their riot squads and they'll activate them.
And then at the height of that madness, if you assassinate Trump, then all of the people who thought they'd won are suddenly, you know, feeling like...
alex jones
Or they killed Biden to make him the victim.
harrison smith
Sorry?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Or they killed Biden to make him the victim.
harrison smith
Yeah, well, that's the other possibility is, you know, they've been building up the straw man of white supremacist terror for a very long time.
alex jones
Yeah, I think they killed Biden.
I want to get on record.
I want to say it's going to happen.
I think that's definitely in their playbook.
harrison smith
Yeah, I don't disagree.
chase geiser
The problem is nobody would miss him.
And I'm not trying to say that, you know, cruelly, but he's not loved like a Julius Caesar was loved.
harrison smith
What is happening?
chase geiser
Everyone would be like, oh, thank God.
alex jones
Yeah, they'll still hide the shit out of it, though.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So Harrison is like, I think a more fun storyline is all this tension building, Trump winning, and then them killing him.
That would be really crazy, and everything would go wild.
And Alex is like, I want to talk about Biden being killed.
This is the storyline I want.
This is more fun for me on the playground.
jordan holmes
It is so fun to watch them be emblematic of their character choices.
Through everything they do.
Harrison doesn't have an interesting thought.
It isn't a Harrison thought.
So it's like, ah, okay.
Everybody else could just be like, oh, they'll assassinate him.
I've got a Harrison twist on it.
Everybody's going to be sad at the end.
Because we'll all think that we had just won.
But then we'll have been taken away from us.
We're the tragic heroes here.
dan friesen
I am a much better writer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Alex is like...
Fuck your indie art house bullshit.
I want a blockbuster.
unidentified
I want to see fucking explosions!
dan friesen
And then Chase comes in and he's like, I don't think anyone would care if Biden dies.
jordan holmes
There is something about Chase that makes him the ideal dumb guy version of what he is.
I don't know what...
I know there's malice.
There has to be malice in there somewhere.
You can't be in Infowars without malice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But I don't know where it comes from or where it's going.
dan friesen
I'm not sure either.
I don't know how much of this is just sort of self-fulfilling prophecy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We made so much fun of his name before we'd ever heard him.
unidentified
I guess.
dan friesen
But there's something about him that is different than other Infowars employees.
jordan holmes
It is.
It is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is just completely different.
And it's never not funny.
dan friesen
He might be one of the only people who hasn't been hired because he won a contest.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, I don't know what this guy is doing.
He's just a social media guy, and then Alex got too into Twitter spaces, and he's the only one who knows how to do it, so somehow he's been thrust into his central role at Infowars.
He's fucking King Ralph.
He's King Ralph-ing it right now, Dan.
dan friesen
There's an energy.
So, someone who's not great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're all not great.
But someone who sucks and is not interesting is Steven Crowder.
And him and Nick DiPaolo come on.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Some great post-debate analysis.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Steven Crowder enlisted Nick DiPaolo.
dan friesen
Mug club buddies.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
dan friesen
So they are on.
And who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't really care.
They don't bring anything really interesting to the table.
But here's a little clip of Steven sucking.
steven crowder
Funny enough, tonight, Rumble servers crashed because we had a quarter million.
dan friesen
Concurrent live viewers.
unidentified
Amazing.
steven crowder
It came back, but where's the best place right now just to stick it to the homos in Palo Alto where people can go and watch and support you?
alex jones
Real Alex Jones on eggs.
dan friesen
I know that Steven thinks he's being edgy and funny or whatever, but that's just, I mean, shocking.
jordan holmes
Honestly.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's very weird to hear.
Because I think he was expecting a laugh, and you could kind of hear a laugh in the background.
unidentified
I suppose.
dan friesen
Someone at the Power Studios.
jordan holmes
It's supposed to be a laugh line.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Instead, it was just like, whoa.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's desperate.
dan friesen
You are really trying.
jordan holmes
It is reached that point now where I think most people, when they get somebody saying something that stupid, you're like...
Oh, you're doing it for attention!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're not even really a bigot!
dan friesen
Well, I'm sure you are.
jordan holmes
You are a bigot.
dan friesen
I'm sure you are.
jordan holmes
But you're just riling me up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's that thing of the trolling not really being that exciting.
jordan holmes
It's not that exciting anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It doesn't have the power that it once did.
So Barnes comes on.
jordan holmes
Media star Bobby Barnes.
dan friesen
That's right.
That's the one.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So he comes on, and they're talking about who they're going to replace Biden with.
robert barnes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he is a follower of the Chase Geyser School of Presidential Replacements.
unidentified
All right.
robert barnes
Gavin Newsom says blow-dried San Francisco.
Says the guy probably bats both ways.
unidentified
Whoa.
robert barnes
He's not somebody who plays well in blue-collar middle America.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
robert barnes
He's not an option.
And so, nor is Big Mike an option.
Because she hates the American people more than anybody.
So who's going to want to usurp this opportunity?
Wait to see if you don't start seeing leaks that the person who's willing to come to the rescue of the Democratic Party is one.
Hillary Rodham.
unidentified
No, I agree.
alex jones
I've seen articles pushing her now.
unidentified
Yes!
robert barnes
And I think that's a substantial risk.
dan friesen
I've seen articles pushing that.
By that I mean we were talking shit about that earlier.
robert barnes
Totally.
jordan holmes
Do it!
I want, I want, that would be the worst fucking day of the internet's history.
The day that they were like, hey, guess what guys?
We're bringing it all the way back.
dan friesen
It's 2016, literally.
jordan holmes
We're not doing 2020.
You thought we wanted to do 2020.
You're an idiot.
We're doing 2016.
robert barnes
Stop.
jordan holmes
There is no escape.
dan friesen
So Barnes' position seems to be Gavin Newsom seems gay and Michelle Obama hates America.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty amazing how Just routine and desensitized, he has become to his own horrifying bigotry.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Just sitting there being like, oh, well, because not least of which, I understand that we're living in the paradigm of like, oh, middle America or anything, but everybody in the Midwest knows somebody who's gay.
Everybody has a kid.
It's not like that.
dan friesen
But I wouldn't be too...
I'm not too shocked by Barnes being desensitized to bigotry.
He did an interview with Stefan Molyneux back in the day.
That's right.
He did do that.
He might be way more...
His opinions and feelings may be a lot more extreme than he allows to let on.
jordan holmes
And then that...
I get what they're doing with the Michelle Obama thing.
But that's fucking...
dan friesen
When you're talking about the desensitization, it's shocking to me the way that everybody in this show and in this orbit has normalized just calling her Big Mike.
It is shocking the amount that it's gone from pretending, haha, we're having a joke, to that's just the name now.
The racism and the transphobia applied and baked into that is just...
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
Yep, yep.
Don't come near me.
dan friesen
It's awful.
So Barnes has another thought, and that is like, well, we've got to kill Biden.
robert barnes
Sure.
dan friesen
They've got to kill Kamala Harris, too.
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
We've got to do a couple murders.
robert barnes
Sure.
I'm concerned.
alex jones
Well, they already said it.
They said he's done, he's horrible.
Unanimously on CNN, the panel said dump him, so what happens?
robert barnes
Well, I mean, if you were in their planning room, you would want someone you could blame on Trump assassinating both Biden and Kamala Harris.
No, I agree.
alex jones
So they assassinate Biden to turn defeat into victory.
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, exactly.
Genius.
And you probably need to take Harris out at the same time.
It solves your problem of Biden and Harris.
It makes him a martyr, a sacrificial lamb.
And it greenlights bringing somebody else in, but doing so not on a sign of weakness, but a rally around the country kind of effect.
dan friesen
They're brilliant, Barnes.
jordan holmes
These people have just watched too many movies.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is probably a big part of it.
Damn.
I mean, I guess that what...
Barnes is more expressing as, this would be exciting.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Like, this would be a much better...
Like, if we're doing punch-up on the script, right?
dan friesen
Punch-up on reality.
jordan holmes
I'm seeing this as a bad sequel, right?
We're on three.
We're on number three now.
We've gone back to the villain from original.
Oh, man.
This is no good.
dan friesen
Yeah, we want...
It's exhausting how much these people are like...
Playing in their own sandbox.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But we have more guests.
jordan holmes
It's like that...
Time travel paradox, you know, where you're like, oh, we'll send somebody back in time to kill Hitler.
But then, you know, they're like, oh, we'll send somebody back in time to kill the guy who kills Hitler.
dan friesen
Butterfly effect kind of thing.
jordan holmes
You know, that just, it never ends kind of thing.
Like, their idea of politics is, okay, well, my side's going to shoot that guy in the head, and then immediately after that, that guy's going to take over, and then they're going to shoot him in the head, and then immediately after that, that guy's going to take over, and then they're going to shoot him in the head.
You know, it's just never ending.
dan friesen
Yeah, and we'll just keep...
Telling you stories.
jordan holmes
Just fucking deal with taxes and, like, fire trucks and shit.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Please.
So we have more guests.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Come in.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Would you believe...
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Sylvester Stallone.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Shows up.
unidentified
I would not.
dan friesen
On Alex's post-debate stream.
jordan holmes
I would not.
dan friesen
Well, good, because I was lying.
jordan holmes
I know.
I was never going to let you get that one.
dan friesen
Nah.
In fact, who comes in is Roger Stone.
unidentified
Oh, the Stone Zone.
dan friesen
Straight from the Stone Zone.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he has a guy named Luke who's with him.
I can't remember how to pronounce his name.
jordan holmes
Radkowski.
Ritikowski.
unidentified
Radkowski?
dan friesen
I do know that Alex still doesn't know how to pronounce his name.
That is definitely true.
He calls him Luke Radowski.
jordan holmes
Luke Radowski.
dan friesen
But he has a different take on how things are going over at Rumble than Steven Crowder.
jordan holmes
So not good.
dan friesen
Well, maybe good, but possibly sabotaged.
jordan holmes
All right.
And that's what they did.
They silenced Rumble.
luke rudkowski
They shut down Rumble right before everyone was going to that particular platform to watch these particular debates.
They made sure that the comments were turned off at the CNN live stream.
alex jones
Okay, I missed that.
So they shut down Rumble?
Because Elon Musk said he wouldn't let it shut down.
They shut down Rumble?
I didn't know that.
unidentified
Yeah, no, no.
harrison smith
Rumble was down.
jordan holmes
We were about to make the transition.
The debate started, and then we were looking out at our Rumble numbers.
alex jones
Oh, yeah, that's what Steven said.
Rumble went down tonight.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, exactly, which was a major attack against free speech.
unidentified
Wow.
luke rudkowski
There was major individuals on there.
jordan holmes
We were on there.
chase geiser
Tim Pool did his first broadcast on there.
luke rudkowski
Steven Crowder was on there.
dan friesen
Wait, I was just listening to Steven Crowder, and he said that it was because there was too much traffic.
The servers couldn't handle it.
You can't present this as an attack now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can't just rewrite this.
jordan holmes
I don't know which of you is lying, because both of you could be.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I'm much more likely to believe Steven.
jordan holmes
The attack is most likely.
dan friesen
And he's...
Probably way more embedded with Rumble executives and shit than Luke R. Redkowski.
That's it.
I resent the way that this is like...
Okay, Steven Crowder was on and he talked about Rumble, his channel going down because there was too much traffic and they couldn't handle it.
And Alex is like, oh my god, we are so popular.
This is wonderful.
This is a sign that everything is going great.
Then Luke comes in and he's like, they attacked Rumble tonight.
They took it down.
Oh my god!
Alex just runs with that narrative on the piece of information.
Because it's what's happening there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think this goes back to what I was saying about cognitive dissonance.
It's not a thing.
It is a weapon.
It is a thing people do to you.
There is no way that you would independently come to the conclusion that it was both a fucking cyber attack and that you're overjoyed that you're so successful unless these two idiots are attacking you with it.
dan friesen
And that's what's being asked of you as a viewer on Alex's stream.
And I found it to be very much...
Dull.
It was bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And awful, but dull.
jordan holmes
Man, I...
I don't know how to say this.
I would independently watch the shit out of an Alex and Chase Geyser just have to sit in an enclosed space and just fucking...
They don't have inputs.
They don't have all kinds of flashing lights.
They just have to, the two of them, be in a space together.
I think that would be fucking exhilarating to watch.
dan friesen
I mean, Alex has worked with a ghostwriter on his last few books.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think if he does it again in the future, it's got to be Chase.
Because there...
And we need to tape it.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
I want a memoir.
jordan holmes
Not a book about the globalists.
In dialogue.
With Chase.
Alex on Alex with Chase.
dan friesen
It would be the best content.
I know that we've really wanted the painting show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And maybe that's not going to happen.
But this has got to happen.
jordan holmes
Alex can't focus on painting by himself.
He can't do it.
But with a guy there...
dan friesen
Painting show with Chase.
jordan holmes
With Chase.
Done.
Done.
This is the problem.
I'm sick of everybody having terrible ideas.
Infowars, a terrible idea.
America, terrible idea.
Painting show with Alex and Chase.
Best idea anyone's had in this fucking universe.
dan friesen
It would be psychologically...
Incredibly bizarre.
And that's where we need to take things, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no other way to escalate.
dan friesen
No.
So the rest of it is largely Alex doing a plug for Dr. Jones Naturals, which is to be expected and not very interesting.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
But yeah, this was the stream of the debate.
I think Alex got bored and drunk, maybe.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
What was the best?
What was the best, like, Gore-Bush debate?
You know?
Like, there wasn't...
I remember Gore doing lockbox.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They were still on about the deficit back then.
Oh, the national debt, Dan!
It's out of control, they said in the past and the present and the future.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
With no intention of ever doing anything about it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, I know that Alex said that they were both probably going to be murdered mid-debate.
I know that he did.
jordan holmes
That would have been a day.
Pre-9-11, if everybody just saw Bush and Gore get murdered, that would have ended the world.
dan friesen
Things would be different.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, anyway, we come to the end of this, and I think Alex did a shit job, and it was a bummer.
unidentified
Yes, it was.
dan friesen
And the debate itself was, you know, a little bit of a bummer, but we'll see how things play out.
I'm not committed to the idea that Alex, his base prediction of Biden being replaced, I'm not convinced that is what's going to happen.
I know a lot of people have speculated about that in a way that...
I don't...
We'll see what happens.
But we'll be back.
unidentified
We will be back.
dan friesen
With another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We are also not on social media.
jordan holmes
We are not.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
unidentified
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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