#921: April 22, 2024
In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex reflecting on how he tweeted about Hitler on 4/20, and having an unfortunate interview with a guy claiming to be the son of the co-founder of the World Economic Forum.
April 24, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:57:40
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. | ||
| Or a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today is, finally, Habanero Jack Cheese has come back to the Aldi! | ||
| You know, it's one of the downsides of, like, going to Aldi is that there are things that just disappear. | ||
| We've talked about this in the past. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And habanero jack cheese is back. | ||
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Amazing. | |
| I never thought I'd see it again. | ||
| It's back. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Pepper jack cheese, a little too light. | ||
| Habanero jack cheese, great. | ||
| Just the right level of heat to add to a sandwich. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| But now, I need the chicken rings to come back. | ||
| The spicy chicken rings. | ||
| Those have been gone. | ||
| Those have been gone forever. | ||
| Anyway, it was great. | ||
| When I saw that, I was like, wow. | ||
| Reunited. | ||
| Good day. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I suppose I'll say that on the day that people are listening to this, it's a nice day for you. | ||
| It's a Wednesday. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Anyways, no, the good news is my bright spot is that my wife made you something. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| More graham cracker treats? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| I'm really excited to give it to you. | ||
| I can't give it to you tonight. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because she... | ||
| Contractual obligations? | ||
| No, she didn't get home from school early enough. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So I'll be able to get it to you tomorrow, but I've got a really nice gift for you. | ||
| Okay, well, that's very nice. | ||
| I'm really excited to give it to you. | ||
| This is a tease. | ||
| It's a tease. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| It's going to be your bright spot on Friday. | ||
| Or she is going to be mad at you. | ||
| That's the other. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I hate to do it to you. | ||
| I'd like to announce in advance my bright spot for Friday. | ||
| I quit. | ||
| I'm sure it'll be wonderful. | ||
| I'm very excited. | ||
|
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Of course. | |
| So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| It is a total mess. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Huge, huge mess. | ||
| This is April 22nd, 2022. | ||
| 2024. | ||
| 2024, okay. | ||
| I got caught up in the twos. | ||
| I was going to say, did we go back? | ||
| No, April 22nd, 2024. | ||
| Mess. | ||
| Mess. | ||
| Total mess. | ||
| Total mess. | ||
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Can't even stress it out. | |
| No other descriptors. | ||
| Can't stress the mess. | ||
| No descriptors. | ||
| And we'll get down to business on that, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, my wife and I accidentally left Knowledge Fight on. | ||
| It was not the foursome she expected. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Next, Mike the Knowledge Spike. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And Aaron and Elijah. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| We got a couple technocrats in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So thank you so much to Ozzy Man Damn Us. | ||
| And you're now a technocrat. | ||
| And thank you so much to Welcome to the World Kaylee Hope. | ||
| Your parents are trying to make the world better for you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above. | ||
| My enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just gonna take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back. | ||
| And I'm gonna start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I gotta be taken over here! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He will not. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| Everything's a mess. | ||
| Is he a mess today? | ||
| He's... | ||
| I mean, he's hard to say. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So look, here's the situation. | ||
| He's a mess? | ||
| No, I can't get it out of... | ||
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Okay. | |
| That's part of the situation. | ||
|
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Here we go. | |
| And he's in the background and will live with us for the next however long this takes. | ||
| Focus. | ||
| 420 happened. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| You got the headband? | ||
| Yes, 420. | ||
| You know about 420. | ||
| Yes, the marijuana smoking. | ||
| Puff and weed. | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| Yes, puff and puff and weed. | ||
| Yeah, that's what people do on 420. | ||
| All right, I like that. | ||
| However, it is also Hitler's birthday. | ||
| It is famously both the day you smoke weed and the day you celebrate Hitler's birth. | ||
| And some of Alex's audience might be more enthusiastic about one of those things. | ||
| See, that sounds right. | ||
| That sounds far more likely. | ||
| It's not the cool libertarian drug legalization side of things. | ||
| So Alex tweeted about his distaste for Hitler on 420. | ||
| And got a bit of backlash. | ||
| Got a bit of people... | ||
| Not liking him for it. | ||
| Let me see if I understand correctly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alex tweeted out something like, Hey, just to remind everybody, Hitler equals bad. | ||
| And everybody went, Hey, buddy! | ||
| I think you're softening both Alex's tweet and the responses to him. | ||
| But yes, more or less. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| And so, you know, 420 ends. | ||
| The high wears off. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now we're back at it. | ||
| 21st, you just chill. | ||
| 22nd, you gotta deal with reality. | ||
| You gotta deal with the Hitler things that you said on Hitler's birthday. | ||
| So Alex comes into the studio and he really wants to talk about how he made a big splash on social media with this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And sort of deal with the fallout. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Coming up, I'm gonna do the deep dive on Adolf Hitler. | ||
| I put some posts on X this weekend that got tens of millions of views explaining to people that just because the globalists are bad... | ||
| Doesn't mean that being naughty and liking Hitler is good. | ||
| Hitler was a loser. | ||
| And I'm going to explain all of that because I am an expert on it. | ||
| He's an expert. | ||
| So you can tell from listening to Alex that he's invested in pretending that these people don't actually sincerely support Hitler. | ||
| They're quote being naughty and they're only liking him because the globalists are so bad. | ||
| It's a lot easier for Alex to deal with this if these people are just trying to be shocking by presenting Hitler as the lesser of two evils because the alternative is recognizing that he played a big role in ushering people to the point where they legitimately support Hitler. | ||
| So, Alex had a big 420. | ||
| An account on Twitter called SchizoTruth decided to post a collection of pictures of Hitler to celebrate the birthday, and Alex reposted it with the comment, quote, And before we go any further, in a vacuum, that's a good thing. | ||
| Pushing back against Nazis is a good action. | ||
| So I wanted to make sure that I clarified that my criticisms aren't that Alex put out an anti-Hitler post. | ||
| My criticism is that I can't believe he wouldn't recognize that this wouldn't be super unpopular with the audience that he's... | ||
| Attracted. | ||
| The replies to this tweet were wall-to-wall anti-Semites, accusing Alex of selling out to the Jews and spouting all kinds of Nazi shit. | ||
| There are two points I think are pretty important. | ||
| One, on some level, Alex knew this was going to happen. | ||
| And he was mostly baiting people for attention. | ||
| That's the game that he's playing. | ||
| He can't possibly be oblivious at this point that a huge section of his audience, particularly the more online Twitter section of it, includes a huge amount of Hitler fans. | ||
| At least a part of this tweet was an attempt to get a ton of attention by eliciting a negative reaction from his audience for doing something that the rest of the world would support, and you can kind of tell that Alex is excited about it, he starts by saying how much Yeah. | ||
| That's really... | ||
| The ultimate game that's being played. | ||
| And tricking people into saying, even Alex gets this. | ||
| You know, tricking people who are critics of him into saying positive things about him. | ||
| And the second point is, this is kind of the type of site that Twitter is now, where you say something negative about Hitler and people just fucking go to town on you. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What a great... | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| If not further, who knows? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| You think, oh, everything's downhill from here. | ||
| And a lot of people project that onto the world, and they make the world a worse place because they feel personally that their lives are going to be worse. | ||
| I don't feel like we have that problem. | ||
| I think it's being handled, right? | ||
| Our midlife is going downhill, but that's not our fault. | ||
| We can't even be blamed for it. | ||
| If Twitter is life, then yes. | ||
| Twitter, life is going down. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's not our bad. | ||
| It's a bad vibe over there. | ||
| Real bad vibe. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Not good over there. | ||
| No. | ||
| So I told you things were, you know, in addition to being a mess, it was a pretty exciting show. | ||
| Alex has a pretty huge guest. | ||
| Hitler? | ||
| We have a WEF high-level whistleblower. | ||
| His father was the founder, co-founder of Klaus Schwab, joining us from Geneva, Switzerland. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's going to be a huge transmission today. | ||
| Can you believe it? | ||
| The son of the co-founder of the World Economic Forum is going to be on this broadcast blowing the whistle. | ||
| I don't know what is or is not going to or not be true. | ||
| I reject all of it outright. | ||
| I can tell you this. | ||
| It's not going to be a mess. | ||
| So we have another guest, though, at the beginning of the show. | ||
| Is this one Hillary? | ||
| No. | ||
| Starting off, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| Okay, well, not far off. | ||
| MTG joins us. | ||
| Boy, was she right about... | ||
| Speaker Johnson, she tried to give him a chance. | ||
| Trump's tried to give him a chance, but he really showed his cards. | ||
| The Democrats are now bragging that they will keep him in power as a speaker. | ||
| Even Republicans try to remove him as MTG. | ||
| Others did so successfully spearheaded by Matt Yates and herself. | ||
| So this is a big deal. | ||
| Others say, well, she's a troublemaker. | ||
| We should just go along to get along. | ||
| Well, then might as well put Nancy Pelosi back in there or maybe Adam Schiff or somebody. | ||
| So thank you so much, Marjorie Taylor Greene, for joining us. | ||
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Thanks for having me, Alex. | |
| And this is why I always support you. | ||
| You've got a great show coming up today. | ||
| I'm going to do my best to dial in and listen to the rest of it because I think you're going to be talking about... | ||
| Some very important pieces of history that maybe people don't know or they've forgotten. | ||
| So she's referencing Alex's coming deep dive on Hitler. | ||
| And that's not super great for a sitting member of Congress to be excited to hear Alex break down the hidden truths of World War II. | ||
| Yeah, that's no good. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| You wouldn't want somebody banging the gavel and being like, hurry up! | ||
| I need to go watch Ancient Aliens. | ||
| It's not far off. | ||
| It's pretty close. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| So, a lot of what she's on is to complain about the Ukraine funding being passed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then also talk shit on the Speaker Johnson. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Mike Johnson. | ||
| And, fine. | ||
| Enjoy trying to vacate another speaker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's so sad because it's like what they want is a Democratic Speaker of the House to do stuff that they can whine about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Having somebody that they have to whine about because they're doing stuff. | ||
| I mean, it's just a trap of your own design and making and enforcement. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we want to lash out. | ||
| We don't want to be lashing out at the person that we could conceivably actually exert pressure on. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| We don't want to have the ability to do something about the things that we're bitching about. | ||
| No, because then we'll have to take the next step and keep shifting up our leadership. | ||
| We don't want to do that. | ||
| Or maybe they do, and that seems to be what they're doing a bit of. | ||
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Could be. | |
| So Alex asks Marjorie Taylor Greene about that undercover video of the CIA guy, and I think Alex is getting closer and closer to getting himself re-fucked over. | ||
| I don't want to write myself into the story, but it really is happening. | ||
| I know you talked about it. | ||
| I saw you post about it. | ||
| What do you make of this CIA FBI operative, Gavin Oblevis, admitting that I was targeted with PR firm setups? | ||
| And then now we know that the head of the FBI in Connecticut initiated the suits and William Aldenberg and quarterbacked the whole thing. | ||
| I mean, this is a deep state operation against me, which is illegal in America, in my view. | ||
| What is your take on that? | ||
| And can we have some more weaponization hearings and maybe drag these guys in before Congress? | ||
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I fully support you, Alex. | |
| You've been a top target for, my goodness, as long as I can remember. | ||
| You have been the top target, and it's because you've always used your freedom of speech. | ||
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That's your freedom of speech. | |
| I think Alex is getting dangerously close to getting a letter from William Aldenberg, quite frankly, because he's accusing him of a ridiculous crime at this point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'd be interested to know, like, I would like to talk to Aldenberger to just see what... | ||
| Aldenberg. | ||
| Apologies. | ||
| Just to see what he could do. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Okay, so you send the letter. | ||
| What do you sue him? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You have to tackle him, right? | ||
| You just have to tackle him. | ||
| Because what Alex is doing is accusing him of a grand conspiracy against him by name, talking to a sitting member of Congress about dragging him in for questioning in front of committees and what have you. | ||
| This is... | ||
| This is pretty fucked up. | ||
| I mean, we've already established that one of the ways to address shit like this is through a civil trial. | ||
| And here we are. | ||
| And here he is. | ||
| So we've established... | ||
| So, like, that isn't now a fact that even the legal system has to agree on. | ||
| They fucked up! | ||
| They suck at what they do! | ||
| So now that we're there, now what do we do? | ||
| And no one is answering that question. | ||
| And everybody's just getting mad at me whenever I come up with ideas. | ||
| Well, some of your ideas are pretty bad. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| But... | ||
| Hey, one of the ideas that Marjorie Taylor Greene has, not about Alex's shit, but is to kick Mike Johnson out of there. | ||
| I'm all for it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that these folks have an issue that they took over a party, but some of the party doesn't like that takeover so much. | ||
| And so they realize we've kind of just got to make our own party. | ||
| The only way this will ever stop is until we turn our Republican Party into the party of accountability. | ||
| The party of America first. | ||
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And right now, that is not our party. | |
| Our party is dominated by uniparty members and uniparty control. | ||
| And Alex, I can promise you this. | ||
| I think it's time to totally change the party. | ||
|
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We have to change it over. | |
| Is it going to be uncomfortable? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But everybody needs to get comfortable being uncomfortable. | ||
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Because I'm tired of the words without the action. | |
| Well, that's right. | ||
| Well, Trump now has control. | ||
| Trump now has control of the RNC. | ||
| If Trump gets back in, why don't we just change it to the American Party and just get rid of the Republican Party altogether? | ||
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We should. | |
| It should be an American Party. | ||
| Yeah, and then the Democrats could change that into the super American Party. | ||
| I love ideas that have been had before to horrendous results. | ||
| Just coming back up, being bandied about like it's a good call. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Pretty dumb. | ||
| Let's call it the Confederacy! | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Let's call our... | ||
| It's almost parody levels of branding and stupid, jingoistic America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What else could you call it? | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| So now we've got the America Party, or the America First Party, or the mostest Americanist Party, right? | ||
| So then ten years from now, What's your next one? | ||
| What's your even morestest American party, right? | ||
| Well, you're going to have to find something. | ||
| You got to go. | ||
| Super America party. | ||
| Right? | ||
| How high can it go? | ||
| Super duper America party. | ||
| All right, I'm listening. | ||
| Mega America. | ||
| Mega America. | ||
| Mega America great! | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So, Marjorie leaves, and Alex is going to get into his deep dive. | ||
| You should realize, he's read a lot of books. | ||
| He's read so many books. | ||
| I don't want to say I get lazy, but there's so much news, I tend to try to get to a lot of it, so a lot of times I only scratch the surface. | ||
| Now, compared to other talk show hosts, it's a deep dive, and our guests do deep dives. | ||
| But really, what I cut my teeth on... | ||
| On their 30 years, is deep dives. | ||
| Because I was extremely attracted to science fiction, and I was a good reader by the time I was six years old. | ||
| I was reading at a high school level. | ||
| And then I discovered history, and then I discovered history is very varied. | ||
| You've got to read a lot of history to really... | ||
| Get what the history is, and then talk to people that were there as well when you have that opportunity. | ||
| So I read, and I don't want to exaggerate, but I lost a lot of sleep. | ||
| From the time I've been about six, seven years old until about ten years ago, I don't read a lot of books now. | ||
| I just have so much information, read so much all day. | ||
| What? | ||
| I might read six, seven books a year. | ||
| I usually just scan through other ones. | ||
| But I used to read about three books a week. | ||
| And I would get on Jags. | ||
| You know, I probably read, I don't know, 50, 60, 70 books on naval history and naval warfare. | ||
| History books. | ||
| It was very interesting. | ||
| Going back to the booby pirates in the South China Sea or the Greek or Peloponnesians and then right up until Blackbeard and the Caribbean. | ||
| Bit of a stretch. | ||
| And I probably read... | ||
| Let's not exaggerate. | ||
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Five. | |
| Several encyclopedias on World War II and World War I, and I probably read 200 books on World War II. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| And the interesting part about it, and I'm going to do the deep dive next hour, because I'll do it later and start doing it. | ||
| I started doing it. | ||
| I just started talking about how many books I've read on things. | ||
| I'm not amazed by this. | ||
| I'm not convinced by the authority of, trust me, I've read a lot of books, bro. | ||
| Yeah, this is the exposition that never ends. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| And doesn't really help set the stage for me to take what you're saying seriously. | ||
| So I've read a lot of books. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When did that happen? | ||
| I think that's been with us. | ||
| Probably since, I think it happened for me with Book It, you know, when you're a kid and they're like, just consuming books is a sign of intelligence. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Just like, that was the sales pitch of just like, all you gotta do is be able to take these words, put them in your brain without saying them out loud, and then you are a genius, son. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, I think that that is... | ||
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That is not the case. | |
| No, no, but you hope that you go through that and then get a better... | ||
| But that does seem to be the mentality that Alex is stuck in here as a guy who's been on air for 30 years. | ||
| It is that... | ||
| Quantity over quality or understanding or internalizing. | ||
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Yeah, I don't want to be the guy who's like the, oh, I don't care about the thousand punches, just one punch. | |
| But it's like, if you understand a book, that's way better than just having read a bunch of books. | ||
| What if it's 200? | ||
| And what if it's 50 books about boobie pirates? | ||
| That's actually probably going to make it more difficult for you to understand the context of what it is you're talking about. | ||
| I would assume, especially if you have the level of accepting bullshit that Alex does, if you read 200 books about World War II, you're going to encounter a lot of fucking stuff that is not true. | ||
| And you're probably going to think, oh my god, this is very interesting. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, I think probably the hardest part is going to be eventually the Evidence that is in competition or against it, you know? | ||
| There's 200 books. | ||
| There's somebody who's going to say, this is definitely true. | ||
| And another book that's going to say, this is definitely not true. | ||
| And then eventually you're going to have to figure out which is which. | ||
| Or not. | ||
| No, that's the problem. | ||
| If you don't figure out which is which and then you do a deep dive... | ||
| This isn't going to be a deep dive. | ||
| Well, fair. | ||
| At least we escaped that. | ||
| It's going to be a deep dive into something. | ||
| At least we escaped that. | ||
| And I think a big part of it is Alex's family invented Texas. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| I did not. | ||
| But did you also know that his grandfather was German? | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| My grandfather, his mother's side of the family were storied Texans, founders of the state, literal, you know, the detonators. | ||
| You know, the Greshams and others. | ||
| At Washington, the Brazos, the instigators, working with President Jackson years before to hatch the plan, real conspirators, shipping shiploads of Bibles into Galveston, having shootouts with the Catholic priests. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But his father was only second-generation Germans, and his dad still spoke German. | ||
| Some German. | ||
| The grandparents did. | ||
| In Dallas, they were wealthy, lived in the nicest area there, and were very successful. | ||
| And so when I really tried to get into World War II, and my grandfather had been in the Army Air Corps as well, both grandfathers, I started talking to my grandfather, who was extremely eccentric and extremely smart, and strangely enough, I'm a spitting image of him, basically. | ||
| Except he had a cleft in his nose. | ||
| And... | ||
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Thank you. | |
| And... | ||
| He just, he told me quite a bit. | ||
| He told you quite a bit? | ||
| I... | ||
| Your grandpa told you quite a bit? | ||
| What, like that Hitler was bad? | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what's going on here. | ||
| Is he trying to tell me that his family is all evil? | ||
| Like, it's the colonists who fucked over everybody in Texas and also fucking people escaping the horrors they did during World War I? | ||
| They were great conspirators. | ||
| This is a concern. | ||
| I am concerned about this man's family history. | ||
| I'm very confused, too, because Alex is telling a story about his grandfather, but then says that his grandfather's father was a second-generation German, which means that Alex's great-great-grandfather was from Germany. | ||
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Right. | |
| I don't understand. | ||
| I don't get... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So yeah, they're deep in the shit. | ||
| Conspired to create Texas. | ||
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Right. | |
| Steal Texas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whatever you want to call it. | ||
| Yeah, you remember, like, with Jackson, saying that with Jackson part, that's evil. | ||
| Well, I guess it depends on your perspective. | ||
| But look, his grandfather, German. | ||
| Looks a lot like Alex. | ||
| Also looked a lot like Hitler. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| And when I was like 15 years old hearing all this, it was just fantastical. | ||
| But it wasn't BS. | ||
| It was stuff he'd lived and stuff I asked about. | ||
| I asked him about the Nazis. | ||
| And he told me about them. | ||
| And he knew a lot about them. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
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A lie. | |
| So, I don't need to read it in a history book. | ||
| I got it from my grandfather. | ||
| And what the Nazis did to the German community in Dallas, who weren't Jews, my grandfather had blonde hair and big blue eyes. | ||
| I mean, he looked at his facial structure, that's why they've done the AI on me. | ||
| And they do all these famous figures, and they do it with me, and it's like the same face as my grandfather basically kind of look like Hitler. | ||
| But the point is that he had firsthand experience with the Nazis. | ||
| Firsthand. | ||
| And not when he was in the military. | ||
| I mean, that was another experience with him. | ||
| They were all over Dallas, all in the German community. | ||
| And he got a first-hand look at him. | ||
| So I'm going to tell that story coming up. | ||
| Okay, you're going to talk about your grandpa having run-ins with Nazis in Dallas? | ||
| I mean, like... | ||
| I feel like the Holocaust is a bigger deal, slightly, than this, but... | ||
| Yeah, even in Alex's weird formulation, though, shouldn't he be like... | ||
| Yeah, Henry Ford was a bad guy, right? | ||
| Henry Ford does come up a little bit later. | ||
| But, like, that's what he's, like, all of them. | ||
| There were so many Nazis in the United States. | ||
| There were so many. | ||
| They loved Nazis. | ||
| They were all Nazis, right? | ||
| Not everybody. | ||
| Not everybody, but there were a ton. | ||
| There were more than we maybe like to remember or pretend, but it also isn't nearly... | ||
| Alex is a little bit later going to be like, everybody loved Hitler! | ||
| That's not accurate either. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Both extremes of this are not quite accurate. | ||
| I just don't want to be the one where... | ||
| I don't want to be the guy who's like, I look like Hitler. | ||
| I don't want to do that. | ||
| Just don't do that. | ||
| You seem to think it was very funny. | ||
| It's not funny. | ||
| It's not funny. | ||
| I mentioned at the beginning of this that I have a very strong feeling that a fair amount of what Alex was doing was trolling. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he says as much. | ||
| And he understands that to a certain segment of the population, Hitler is super popular. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| But he thinks it's, like, most of the population. | ||
| And so I really want to have an adult discussion about this because I put out a couple posts that went viral, tens of millions of years. | ||
| When idiots were, let's just say ignorant people, were wishing Adolf Hitler a good birthday. | ||
| And they went, oh look, you got ratioed, you got trolled. | ||
| No, I knew what was going to happen when I did that. | ||
| I know how popular Adolf Hitler is. | ||
| In fact, if they did an honest poll around the world today, Adolf Hitler is the most popular politician of the last 200 years. | ||
| In Africa, in the Middle East, at liberal colleges, with white guys living out in the country, with army officers. | ||
| Hitler is super popular. | ||
| What, you don't think I don't know that? | ||
| Oh, look, Alex got trolled. | ||
| You know, three to one, everybody loves Hitler. | ||
| Well, you're the ones getting trolled. | ||
| I'll explain it all to you coming up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, I think Alex is a little skewed on his numbers based on maybe the community that he interacts with and is a part of. | ||
| But, you know, it is pretty obvious that that negative backlash that he got wasn't... | ||
| Super unexpected on his part. | ||
| He knew that was what was going to happen, and then it was going to lead to a ton of attention and engagement on Twitter. | ||
| And so people saying that he's getting ratioed, yeah, I mean, it's fairly accurate, I guess, but it's not the same as someone who... | ||
| He walked into it intentionally for the spectacle and the attention that was going to come of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's why I'm confused by this sales pitch here, or this iteration of Alex, because... | ||
| He's aware that what he was doing was farming attention from people who were going to say... | ||
| Hitler's great. | ||
| Hitler's great. | ||
| And that would allow Alex to look like he wasn't evil. | ||
| Or look less evil. | ||
| At least compared to random people on Twitter. | ||
| To Hitler lovers. | ||
| At the very least, Alex is not a lover of Hitler. | ||
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Supposedly. | |
| And yet he is. | ||
| But what I don't understand is this part where he's like... | ||
| Not understanding why people love Hitler? | ||
| Well, he thinks that they're just pretending to because it's sort of edgy or against the normal orthodoxy. | ||
| He doesn't think that anyone's sincere about it. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| You're telling me that he's self-aware enough to know what he was doing and the reaction that it would get, and yet he's now not self-aware enough to know that the reason people love Hitler is the hating and murdering of millions of Jews. | ||
| I think that he... | ||
| Okay, well, I would say that maybe that is where the deception lies in terms of what he's presenting. | ||
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Right. | |
| Maybe he does understand that, or maybe it's a self-defense mechanism. | ||
| I feel like those are possibilities. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It seems very unlikely that he doesn't get that a lot of these people actually... | ||
| Yeah, it's the genocide thing. | ||
| They like Hitler. | ||
| They like what he did. | ||
| And they like a lot of Alex's political positions. | ||
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Yes! | |
| I mean, it does feel like maybe he truly has a broken section of his brain that refuses to allow him to understand that. | ||
| It might be. | ||
| He has another sort of thought here, which I'll let you... | ||
| Sort of is interesting. | ||
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Well... | |
| A bunch of other news that I'm going to mention before I cover it, after I do the deep dive on World War I, World War II, the new clash of civilizations, World War III. | ||
| What Hitler was really all about. | ||
| But more importantly, why people see him as the anti-globalist today. | ||
| Because people see things as black and white. | ||
| They see things as good guy, bad guy. | ||
| What, is Stalin good? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's just another tyranny. | ||
| Lenin? | ||
| I'll say tongue, but... | ||
| Dictators are really the hot thing right now. | ||
| There's whole groups that love Mao. | ||
| There's groups that love Xi Jinping. | ||
| There's groups that lionize all of this. | ||
| Why are they doing it? | ||
| Because they don't like their current system that's bad. | ||
| But boy, if you actually studied history or talked to folks that were there, you're asking to get out of the fire and be thrown in the inferno. | ||
| Before I go any further, we are Lister Supported. | ||
| And it's great to support the broadcast, but you really want these products. | ||
| I mean, these are great products. | ||
| They really work. | ||
| They really work. | ||
| You want these products. | ||
| You want them. | ||
| So yeah, everything is black and white. | ||
| That's why people like Hitler. | ||
| Dictators are hot right now. | ||
| I mean, they're Q rating for most dictators high. | ||
| Just, I mean, the name recognition alone for, quote, dictators. | ||
| I would suggest that Alex has no leg to stand on. | ||
| Saying people are oversimplifying things. | ||
| He thinks he's fighting the fucking devil. | ||
| The literal Christian devil. | ||
| There can't be any more black and white than that. | ||
| Do you mean... | ||
| Everyone you don't like works for the devil. | ||
| Do you mean the literal creator of the universe embodiment of goodness versus the destroyer of the universe embodiment of evil? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's pretty black and white. | ||
| Pretty black and white? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So look, Alex does his plug. | ||
| And yet somehow we don't know where we land on Hitler. | ||
| So Alex does his plug. | ||
| And I think he realized at some point, like, fuck, I don't want to do a deep dive on this. | ||
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No, of course not! | |
| I'm going to do my best to be concise and just point people in directions to do your own research into World War I, World War II. | ||
| It's hard to briefly describe it, but compared to the other critiques you see out there, it is... | ||
| Don't. | ||
| People just have really no large-scale historical understanding of the Austro-Ningarian Empire or the British Empire or the different forces at work or the First German Republic and von Bismarck and then the Versailles Treaty and then the Weimar Republic or the SA versus the SS and the Knight of the Long Knives and what the Nazis were really like. | ||
| And I know they got fancy uniforms. | ||
| Drive around in fancy Mercedes and built big, beautiful buildings and were obsessed with architecture and all the rest of that. | ||
| Well, I mean, you see that translated into Star Wars and how the Empire's got cool-looking ships and uniforms and Darth Vader looks really cool, doesn't he? | ||
| But the point is, is that that image you see projected is the classic signature of death. | ||
| And they wore skulls on their hats. | ||
| Might give you a little newsflash. | ||
| That they're here to bring death. | ||
| I don't think the people who are super into Hitler are going to be dissuaded by that. | ||
| I think they are aware of that, and they're pretty cool with it. | ||
| Man! | ||
| You can just tell, this is a guy being like, this is going to be a little bit superficial. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just going to rattle off some stuff. | ||
| Here's... | ||
| I understand when things are nuanced. | ||
| Many times. | ||
| In fact, I would argue most of the time, things have a great deal of nuance. | ||
| I just feel like sometimes we have a gift. | ||
| Life gives us a gift of not having to worry about nuance. | ||
| Just this one time. | ||
| I mean, listen. | ||
| It is a gift to just be able to say... | ||
| Hitler's evil! | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| No context, no explanation. | ||
| You don't need to do it in a million words. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Just Hitler, bad, done. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| It's a gift. | ||
| I do think that, honestly, a lot of this is going to be giving a bit of short shrift to Nazis and World War II and all that, and mostly focusing on Alex's grandpa. | ||
| But... | ||
| That makes more sense to me, at least. | ||
| At least that makes sense. | ||
| It does. | ||
| But look, here's the thing. | ||
| Hitler made scary faces. | ||
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Didn't he? | |
| If you look at those faces he was making, they were pretty scary. | ||
| But look, any man can do that. | ||
| No, what are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| If you really pull back and really study Hitler, the guy was a lunatic, occultist, maniac. | ||
| And was on an incredible power trip. | ||
| I mean, look, anybody that's a man can run around and act powerful and affect power and make all those faces and do all that stuff, okay? | ||
| People weren't sophisticated 89 years ago. | ||
| They're watching newsreels. | ||
| It looked good to the Germans. | ||
| They felt weak. | ||
| They've been through a lot. | ||
| But guys running around in Hugo Boss uniforms and skulls on their hats, acting tough and sinister, is Luciferian. | ||
| And it's just not good. | ||
| And, again, anybody can sit there who's a man and act like that. | ||
| I mean, because it's an affectation of what you see when a man's killing you because he has to protect his family. | ||
| It looks a lot scarier than Hitler. | ||
| If I get mean and angry, I can show you really scary-looking faces here. | ||
| You go, gosh, that's even scarier than Hitler. | ||
| Yeah, I can look a lot scarier than Gavin Newsom, too. | ||
| The point is I choose not to because... | ||
| That is a spirit of pride and a spirit of Lucifer. | ||
| And it's the occult. | ||
| And the Nazis were into the occult. | ||
| They had a plan to ban Christianity. | ||
| It's super bad stuff, folks. | ||
| And I do not believe the Nazis are the most evil thing, by the way. | ||
| I don't see the backlash of Hollywood. | ||
| And then, by extension, the Nazis are the bad guys, so all white people are bad guys. | ||
| Oh, boy! | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| A little defensive. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I do... | ||
| Look, I'm going to just admit... | ||
| Right off the bat. | ||
| I'm not going to fact check everything that he's going to say. | ||
| I'm going to leave a fair amount of it as fuck off. | ||
| But I'm fascinated by the scary faces thing. | ||
| I guess that's a... | ||
| Is he letting us in on a secret that he knows that we haven't figured out yet? | ||
| Only men can make these scary faces. | ||
| I've got resting Hitler face. | ||
| For the audio listener, Dan made a face. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Super scary. | ||
| Very bizarre. | ||
| Just a strange, strange brain. | ||
| I think one of the things about language and the way we interact is so fucking evil is that you can condemn somebody in such a fashion that the real intent behind what you're doing is to protect... | ||
| The worst things that they've done. | ||
| So, like, him saying I don't like Hitler, even that action, functionally, is defending Hitler full-throatedly. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's... | ||
| At least misplaced criticisms. | ||
| At the very least. | ||
| If you're going... | ||
| If you are like, oh, I gotta... | ||
| I'm gonna take this Hitler guy down. | ||
| People shouldn't wear those uniforms. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| Well, that's something that I kind of notice. | ||
| If you go through Alex's career, he has a lot of feelings that are based in aesthetics. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| that like end up meaning way more. | ||
| Like he's really mad at cops in black uniforms and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like that's very aesthetic, but to him it means tyranny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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You know, so to me whenever I hear him talking about Yeah. | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because... | ||
| If they didn't look like that, they wouldn't be bad. | ||
| Well, they wouldn't be able to pull off the bad that they do because it's cool or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Right, but I think that's kind of... | ||
| I think that's part of it. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's on the way. | ||
| So would you like a brief lesson in World War I? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it's true that Britain was heavily threatened by the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. | ||
| Germany was just one piece of that. | ||
| And that they had surpassed America. | ||
| With inventions and technology, we're taking over the world through business, not through military conquest. | ||
| And so the Archduke Franz Ferdinand on the eve of World War I was assassinated, shot and hand-grenaded while driving in a motorcade, and the war began in earnest. | ||
| And then the Austrian-Iran Empire was broken up, large pieces of it were given to Poland and France and many others. | ||
| Those were the complaints of the Germans, and taxes were put on them, and an incredible inflation, and they were in a depression, much deeper than the depression we even saw in the United States. | ||
| And out of that angrier world came the National Socialist Workers' Party that Hitler was a young member of, and that it was declassified after World War II that the British intelligence... | ||
| Have been spying on and funding, not thinking it would take over later, but just whatever group took over, they intended to basically be in the driver's seat with. | ||
| So British intelligence didn't control the Nazis, but they were there from their inception. | ||
| And if you want to actually study the history of that... | ||
| It's there. | ||
| The British intelligence wasn't guiding the Nazi party, especially in the earliest days. | ||
| But look, this honestly, this retelling of World War I even contradicts the version that Alex has in Endgame. | ||
| Like, World War I was a false flag that was done in order to create the League of Nations. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not a war that just happened. | ||
| So this piece even just like, I don't know, it doesn't match with what Alex is supposed to believe. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| If what we can take away is that Alex understands that in order to get a Hitler to the level of popularity that you need, you have to essentially torture a large enough population to get them to the point where they think, fuck it, let's go with Hitler, then your parallel would be like Trump now. | ||
| But I don't think he's... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Alright, I'll just move on then. | ||
| Don't explore that. | ||
| Okay, never mind. | ||
| Just gonna let that one go. | ||
| This was the yada yada version of World War I history. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And it leads us to a period of Hitler's rise. | ||
| Yeah, let's see how Hitler's doing. | ||
| Everyone loved him in the 30s. | ||
| And then as Germany builds up, and as Germany turns its economy around, from 1933 until about 1939, Time Magazine and the New York Times, Hitler, | ||
| Man of the Year, multiple times, and he's a genius, and he's great, and Henry Ford funding him, and Thomas Watson of IBM, and it was on the local radio stations around the country, and Hitler was a great guy, and he was the answer to everything. | ||
| Henry Ford and Watson are not great examples to provide as being representative of the mainstream opinion of America. | ||
| Ford was a giant anti-Semite, and Watson was a well-known war profiteer who did business with the Nazis. | ||
| Hitler was named Man of the Year by Time magazine for 1938, but that doesn't mean they were saying he was the coolest man of the year. | ||
| His actions created the most important development of that past year, namely his destruction of the Treaty of Versailles and the seizure of Austria. | ||
| Alex often misrepresents this Man of the Year thing, but he's really swinging for the fences here, implying, like... | ||
| Everybody was like, Hitler's the answer. | ||
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Woo. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a grand exaggeration of Hitler's popularity in the United States. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, in Germany, you know, getting rid of that Treaty of Versailles was pretty big. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They weren't fans. | ||
| They weren't against it. | ||
| Internationally, it was a pretty big deal. | ||
| It was a bad move. | ||
| Very big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, we have a bit more here about the rise coming to power. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So the Germans had been demoralized, they'd been put down, they'd been in decades of control and poverty, and then along comes this low-level corporal and World War I hero, Iron Cross First Class, Congressional Medal of Honor, the Germans' Congressional Medal of Honor, as a message runner in World War I. Who would volunteer to run through the enemy lines while they were being nerve-gassed, all the rest of it. | ||
| Just being honest about Hitler. | ||
| He was a German war hero. | ||
| Hitler rapidly ascends in the Nazi party, and they have a beer putsch where they try to occupy the Reichstag, and then he gets put in jail a few years, and he writes Mein Kampf. | ||
| I mean, I know the whole history forwards and backwards. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| I read hundreds of books on it, multiple encyclopedias. | ||
| I understood it was an important piece of history. | ||
| And then Hollywood and the Western establishment then pushed American hegemony and America being the hero of World War II. | ||
| When America was a part of it, I'm not lessening both my grandfathers in it and the Army Air Corps, but 80% of the casualties or more were between the Germans and the Russians. | ||
| 26 million Russians, 22 to 24 million Germans. | ||
| I mean, this was a Russian-German slugfest. | ||
| And then the United States and others came in on the edges of it for the final victory. | ||
| And we still lost 700, 800,000 troops. | ||
| You can look it up. | ||
| I'm not coming away from this thinking that Alex has a real great in-depth awareness or understanding from these hundred books or whatever. | ||
| For one thing, the Beer Hall Putsch happened in Munich in 1923. | ||
| Well, the Reichstag is in Berlin. | ||
| A little different. | ||
| I think... | ||
| You know, they're just words. | ||
| Yeah, he's just kind of, you know, he's giving you a little timeline, giving you a little scoobity-doobity-doobity. | ||
| A couple of details here and there, a couple of tidbits. | ||
| I would posit you this. | ||
| Catchphrases. | ||
| I think in this situation, we are in a quantity tells us more than quality, because I say this to you. | ||
| I think if you read a hundred books about Hitler... | ||
| You are telling me something in much the same way that if somebody read a hundred books about Gil Scott Heron, they would be telling me something, which is that you are really fascinated by this guy and you think he's cool. | ||
| You're a fan in a way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So I think that one of Alex's great misunderstandings, we can, you know... | ||
| Decide amongst ourselves whether it's a self-defense mechanism or not. | ||
| But he seems to think that his audience is just trolling the left by pretending to like Hitler. | ||
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They'll get us. | |
| You have Hollywood then, by extension, with thousands of movies about Nazis constantly. | ||
| And then now attaching that to America and now saying conservatives are all Nazis and racists. | ||
| We've been hearing this for 30 years. | ||
| People go, well, I'm not a Nazi. | ||
| So if you're calling Hitler bad and you're calling me a Nazi, well, he must not be bad because I know I'm not bad. | ||
| And so it becomes a thing to basically troll the left, is to go ahead and say, here's Hitler. | ||
| What do you think of that? | ||
| My issue with Hitler is this. | ||
| They definitely were obsessed with design and pageantry and nighttime rallies and architecture and scary-looking uniforms. | ||
| Nailed them. | ||
| And they took over an Austrian-Hungarian empire that had a huge militaristic history. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| So you say, my problem with Hitler is this, and then you launch into what begins with aesthetic complaints. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Alright, buddy. | ||
| I prefer a more flowing uniform. | ||
| I like a different fabric, obviously. | ||
| I'm more of a linens guy. | ||
| You gotta have something that breathes. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| Because, you know, they're not just fighting in the cold. | ||
| You think, oh, we're the Nazis, we're gonna fight in the... | ||
| But they were also in Africa. | ||
| Those uniforms, horrific in Africa. | ||
| Too hot! | ||
| True. | ||
| Too hot! | ||
| I saw Casablanca. | ||
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But looked cool. | |
| They did look great. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So Alex believes that all these people are just, you know, they're being called Nazis all the time, so they're like, ha, we're gonna troll you. | ||
| We are Nazis. | ||
| And then Alex is gonna troll back with his post about how fuck Adolf Hitler, all this. | ||
| But he's just trying to open up a conversation. | ||
| But when I posted to troll people, because I was planning to do this show this week, I've just been saying for a while I would. | ||
| When I posted on X, and we'll show it from X here, we can pull that up please, Saturday on Hitler's birthday, this post right here, I saw it already had millions of views, and it says, Hitler's birthday on 24 photo collection thread. | ||
| And I said, happy birthday to a man who got 24 million Germans killed. | ||
| Also launched a world war that killed another 80 million people. | ||
| Just because our rulers are evil does not mean Hitler was good. | ||
| F Adolf Hitler. | ||
| And I knew that from the corners of Acts and elsewhere, the Hitler worshippers would come streaming out and we get tens of millions of views, which this post got 7.4 million views. | ||
| Derivatives of it, another 10 million that I even saw, and I wasn't looking. | ||
| So, 17 million views. | ||
| And it did what I wanted. | ||
| They're like, oh, you just got trolled. | ||
| You just got ratioed. | ||
| No, I just opened up this discussion. | ||
| So here you see Alex essentially is admitting that he made the post to Bay people for attention. | ||
| He's trying to give it some kind of high-minded justification like he was opening up this conversation, but it's pretty important to understand that in most circles, that's not an important conversation to open up. | ||
| Most people get that Hitler was a really bad guy, and the Nazis were bad, and they don't need to troll their audience into talking about it. | ||
| What Alex is actually responding to is a major problem that he's obviously aware of, which is that a large segment of his audience likes Hitler and are Nazis. | ||
| This shouldn't come as a surprise, given the high number of legit Nazis Alex has had on his show, how his content is soaked in historical anti-Semitic tropes that he uses to characterize his vaguely defined enemy, the globalists, and how Alex races to provide cover for every act of white supremacist or Nazi violence that happens, which will always be labeled a false flag. | ||
| Alex's content leads people toward the path that leads in the direction of Nazi ideas, which is why a lot of the far more hardcore people think Alex is soft but useful. | ||
| He's somebody who can reach more mainstream people and finesse them toward more extreme groups, so even if he's not enough for them, they'll make the most of what he's doing. | ||
| It seems like the only real agenda. | ||
| Honestly, the problem for Alex is Twitter. | ||
| He's always had these Nazis in his audience calling him out for not being Nazi enough, but they've been pretty easy to ignore. | ||
| If he wanted to, he could curate comments on his own platforms, and he could be pretty confident that on the mainstream platforms where most normal people gathered, there would be moderation in place where people who posted Nazi shit all the time would be kept to a minimum. | ||
| But now that Elon's running Twitter, that's a problem. | ||
| It's very obvious that Alex has a Nazi problem, even in the replies of non-Hitler-related tweets that he posts. | ||
| On the one hand, I agree with Alex's instincts that he needs to do something about this, and having a very visibly pro-Nazi audience is not a good thing. | ||
| But on the other hand, this strategy is stupid, and obviously it's not meant to address the real issue. | ||
| The decisions Alex made to cultivate an audience that was warm toward Nazis happened a long time ago, and nothing that he does now is going to change that dynamic. | ||
| He can try to distance himself from that section of his audience, but it's going to take a bit more than this to achieve that, and doing any of the things that would work towards that hurts his bottom line. | ||
| Whatever this is, the thing he's doing here on the show, it isn't effective. | ||
| I went to his site, you know, band.video, and he posted this segment from the episode, and it... | ||
| Comments are mostly pro-Nazi shit. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| So, I don't think whatever audience he's trying to open up a conversation with are responding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think this is where I think we're headed. | ||
| Or at least I think where I'm at. | ||
| For the longest time, we tried to be like, here's what we need to do. | ||
| Stop using the language. | ||
| And that only taught the Nazis the language of euphemism. | ||
| And allowed them to live and work freely among us, being able to communicate with each other. | ||
| And us being like, ha ha, see they're not saying the N-word all the time. | ||
| We've done good. | ||
| But now, we can see that what needs to happen is stuff like Twitter. | ||
| They need to be shown in the light, and then launched into the Phantom Zone. | ||
| Well, that second step isn't something you can do. | ||
| It needs to be, like, isolated. | ||
| Like, they deserve to have a place to be awful to each other. | ||
| Right, but that was, like, Gab and Truth Social and those other... | ||
| Like, when there's actual moderation in place, normal people can use social media and not have to deal with this shit. | ||
| But now that is not the case. | ||
| We need a completely segregated social media. | ||
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No, we need just moderation. | |
| There's Nazi media, and then there's real people radio. | ||
| Just need moderation. | ||
| Nope, if you want to... | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Maybe Godwin's Law was the wrong move. | ||
| Maybe it's just there are those Nazis and we shouldn't argue with them. | ||
| They should have their own space. | ||
| Give them Twitter. | ||
| I think one way or another that is what's happening. | ||
| I think they've taken it. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| So whether you want it to or not. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| So anyway, Alex finds himself on his show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Arguing with a random Twitter comment about who started World War II. | ||
| I hate life. | ||
| What really blew me away, though, and I'll admit, I spent hours, I don't have, it's so fascinating, very entertaining in a sick way, reading, scanning. | ||
| Oh, I probably read 500 comments, and I stopped right there because there's tens of thousands. | ||
| And a lot of people are smart, a lot of people are making good points, but I saw other comments in there, like... | ||
| How dare you lie about Hitler? | ||
| He was attacked first and offered peace. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not debated that Hitler invaded and took large pieces of other countries that had been part of Germany before and the Austrian Empire. | ||
| And then he just said, I'll take Poland. | ||
| It's not debated, but you're debating with a Twitter comment. | ||
| Amazing! | ||
| So I don't think that there's a ton of depth here. | ||
| I don't think this is like an in-depth, deep dive, whatever. | ||
| And it kind of does result in just like kind of shit talk. | ||
| Alex is kind of talking shit on Hitler as opposed to... | ||
| Hitler's a real shitty dresser and he doesn't eat a bad breath. | ||
| And Hitler was jealous of other generals later after they exterminated all those guys and had Erwin Rommel killed. | ||
| Or made him take cyanide or he'd kill his whole family. | ||
| I mean, and the Nazis would run around. | ||
| Have you seen Remains of the Day? | ||
| Because I've read the real history and also taught people that saw stuff like this. | ||
| The British lord who fought in World War I felt bad for Germans. | ||
| So he invited the Nazis in the 30s to his house. | ||
| And it's a fiction movie, but it's based on stuff that happened. | ||
| And while he's out of the room, they're like, when we take over, that painting, that painting, that painting. | ||
| They were literally pirates obsessed with loot. | ||
| Now, that's not just in a Hollywood movie. | ||
| But I am going to tell this anecdote from a Hollywood movie. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not going to. | ||
| Now, obviously, there are tons of real obvious examples. | ||
| I've read a hundred books. | ||
| Tons of examples of this very obvious story that are real, that I could tell you. | ||
| But I am going to tell you about the movie one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I've read thousands of books. | ||
| I've read thousands of books, and I am only going to describe a movie to you. | ||
| Great. | ||
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Cool. | |
| It's good work. | ||
| And now we get into Alex's grandfather, who seems like quite a character. | ||
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Okay. | |
| My grandfather, I never really talked about this, and he was pro-America, Army Air Corps, all that. | ||
| But after I learned all this when I was a teenager, I went over there, because I'd since moved to Austin last year as a high school, and I'd visit him almost every Sunday for Sunday dinner, and I'd go to church with him sometimes, too. | ||
| My grandfather didn't talk a lot, but boy, he talked. | ||
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And... | |
| I said, hey, I've learned all this. | ||
| He said, yeah, it's absolutely true. | ||
| He said, when we grew up in Dallas, we lived next door to the inventor of, or one of the major patent holders on refrigeration, who had been born in Germany but had moved here, and it was their neighbor down the street, and my grandfather from the time I was a little kid, because the Germans were very, it was a big section that were German. | ||
| He would go over there and see the invention shop. | ||
| My grandmother later became an inventor and was successful. | ||
| Sold some stuff at the Pentagon. | ||
| And combat robot, early combat robot in the 60s. | ||
| But road control, radio control. | ||
| But that's a side issue. | ||
| It's classified. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| But my mother remembers coming home from college and seeing, going to the warehouse, seeing the robots. | ||
| But crowd control robot. | ||
| What? | ||
| He talked about this rich German. | ||
| His grandfather lived near the guy who holds a lot of patents for refrigeration. | ||
| I feel like this is reminiscent. | ||
| I think Alex talked to Ye about this. | ||
| But yeah, so he invented combat robots. | ||
| Card control, remote control. | ||
| Combat robots. | ||
| I want to... | ||
| So here's what Alex does to me. | ||
| Here's what Alex does to me. | ||
| I want to go back in time and hound Alex's family for being not from America. | ||
| Scream at them about how they're monsters who are invading our country and all that shit. | ||
| And then we won't have to worry about the Nazis? | ||
| Is that what happens? | ||
| Did I fix that? | ||
| I'm not going to... | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I'm not going to sign off on your agenda here. | ||
| I am going to say that I would like to go back in time, though. | ||
| And I would like to find out about these robots. | ||
| I just despise the concept of reminiscing about how great immigration is. | ||
| From Alex. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| It's a hard pill to swallow. | ||
| I refuse to swallow it. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Damn, that is fine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I just think I want to fucking see these robots. | ||
| I do too! | ||
| How do you have robots? | ||
| Yeah, I would like to go back through Alex's family history and take a stop. | ||
| Every generation, and really just take in how important every single person who has ever lived who is related to him is. | ||
| They're all the most critically connected, and they're all amazing. | ||
| It is genuinely as if... | ||
| It's like Mishima's golden fucking... | ||
| It's a reincarnation of the most important man every single time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a lineage of Forrest Gump's. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| So, Alex's grandpa... | ||
| Joined the military. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now, you might think he joined the military because, you know, he'd heard about the war and what was going on in Europe. | ||
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Okay. | |
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| He did not like the way that Nazis were being mean in Dallas. | ||
| That makes sense! | ||
| My grandfather said that the reason he went and joined the military, even though he was at UT, in college, roommates with Tom Landry, best friends. | ||
| I was a kid, every once in a while visiting, like Tom Landry pulled in the car and come in and go in the office for an hour praying. | ||
| Not bragging, it's just weird history. | ||
| And he looked just like the Tom Landry you see, the hat, the suit, the whole lot of yards. | ||
| I was like eight years older, it was Tom Landry. | ||
| I only saw it once, but they talked every week and prayed. | ||
| In fact, if I got to their house early on Sundays, he'd say, excuse me, you can go in their room for 30 minutes and pray with Tom Landry. | ||
| Just a weird story. | ||
| Those are real Christians. | ||
| And my grandfather said that, By about 1938, the Germans, the Nazis, had threatened to kill all of his family in Germany if he didn't give them all the money he had. | ||
| And the guy had basically sold everything, the equivalent of billions today, and my grandfather implied committed suicide. | ||
| And my grandfather really liked this guy. | ||
| And so that was the last straw for my grandfather to get off the UT football teams. | ||
| He could have got a deferment, whatever, and him and Tom Landry go and join the Army Air Corps together. | ||
| So that's the reality here, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| So we're talking a fair amount about Alex's grandfather and his experience with the Nazis. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I find it to be slightly underwhelming or... | ||
| Very narrow story that he joined the service. | ||
| Pronoun reference was a little bit messy there, but it was the inventor who had the pants in refrigeration. | ||
| Who killed himself. | ||
| In fur. | ||
| Yeah, ostensibly. | ||
| Yeah, he was being shaken down for money by the Nazis. | ||
| And this is why Alex's grandfather joined the war effort, because he liked this refrigerator inventor. | ||
| This is strange. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It does track, though. | ||
| With everything that Alex believes, if you were going to say that it was taught to him, it's learned behavior, then yes, everything is about me. | ||
| It does make sense as a learned behavior. | ||
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You know, like, Hitler did all this. | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I don't like the way he fucked with my guy. | ||
| It wasn't because of the Treaty of Versailles or Austria or any kind of... | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It tracks with Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This guy... | ||
| He stepped on my shoes. | ||
| So I gotta stop him. | ||
| So gotta go to war. | ||
| If FDR had stepped on my shoes, I would have been on the Nazis team. | ||
| That simple. | ||
| It's that easy. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So Alex seems to imply that he has some kind of secret knowledge. | ||
| But I don't think he does. | ||
| No. | ||
| My grandfather is a German. | ||
| Good looking, blonde haired, blue eyes, in a rich area of Dallas with a bunch of rich Germans. | ||
| And he is witnessing, and it wasn't just that, So then, obviously, he wouldn't talk about it. | ||
| He gets in World War II approach and to look into what the Germans are up to. | ||
| And he does it. | ||
| And he didn't tell me about it, but he told his son, who also went into intelligence, and he told me about a lot of it. | ||
| We almost lost the country to Nazis. | ||
| And they had the McCormick-Dickstein Committee hearings on it. | ||
| My film Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, starts with those hearings. | ||
| And Smedley Butler, the most decorated Marine Corps general, and they wanted to be the commandant of the Marine Corps, multiple congressional medal honor winner, they tried to hire him, the Bushes, with the Nazis, to overthrow the U.S. government. | ||
| And I didn't know about that until 25 years ago when I made films about it. | ||
| And I made a film about 17 years ago. | ||
| The big one. | ||
| But I was hearing all that from my uncle, who my grandfather told him about it. | ||
| And it just gets wilder from there. | ||
| So I have first hand. | ||
| Yeah, it just gets wilder. | ||
| It gets wilder from there, but we don't know any of that stuff. | ||
| All we know is the stuff that we already know. | ||
| Like Swindley Butler. | ||
| We don't know anything. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There's nothing here. | ||
| It's just fucking insinuation. | ||
| I've been told about all these books he's read. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I only hear stories from movies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I've been told about all the interesting things that his family has done. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Personally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I only hear stories from movies. | ||
| And, like, stuff you already know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Stuff you can know other places just from public knowledge. | ||
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Stuff goes on a meme. | |
| Or maybe narrow personal stories about your neighbor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I find this a little bit soft, quite frankly. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff that's like, it would be really good if you're sitting around passing a joint. | ||
| On 420, maybe. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Hitler's birthday, you celebrate. | ||
| Oh, my grandpa told me all kinds of stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My mind is blown. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| In this context, on this show, no. | ||
| It's not compelling. | ||
| I mean, I guess I would be more interested if he would... | ||
| Get rid of all of the trappings of pretending to care about the war, and just get into why his grandfather was very personally motivated. | ||
| Well, it's the refrigeration inventor. | ||
| Because his grandfather was also an inventor of combat robots, so they had that inventor bond. | ||
| That's not enough for me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's not enough for me. | ||
| I want to hear more about this story. | ||
| Well, you're not going to. | ||
| Well, maybe you'll hear a little bit more, because I would say that a large part of that This quote-unquote deep dive is about how Alex's grandpa is cool. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| And was not a Nazi. | ||
| I feel like that's in question. | ||
| He might have gone to some meetings of the Bund, but he wasn't a Nazi. | ||
| But again, he apprenticed. | ||
| That's how things were in the old times. | ||
| You would work with other people. | ||
| He worked from the time he was like 10, 11, 12. Down the street, he described it. | ||
| The whole area in the middle of Dallas is around a big park, and it's where all the bushes live, all of them now. | ||
| But he had a huge laboratory, Tesla-type guy. | ||
| I can't remember his name. | ||
| I'm a teenager. | ||
| My grandfather was telling me about all this. | ||
| And this guy was German. | ||
| And he wasn't even against Hitler, but he had a bunch of family in Germany, and they threatened to kill him. | ||
| And they sucked every bit of money out of him, and my grandfather... | ||
| Saw that. | ||
| So he said by the time he was in high school, and the Bund was really big. | ||
| They had Madison Square Garden rallies, and they had rallies in Dallas with 50,000 Germans in Nazi uniforms. | ||
| And my grandfather never got in the Bund, but he said, I went to a few of the Bund meetings. | ||
| And I'm sitting around the kitchen table while he's drinking iced tea, and he starts getting tears in his eyes. | ||
| That's when he's a teenager. | ||
| So my grandfather's going to Nazi rallies in Dallas, Texas. | ||
| And then he starts learning about the inventor and how they're robbing him. | ||
| And the old man's breaking down, crying to him, my grandfather said. | ||
| So my grandfather went and joined the Army Air Corps once World War II started. | ||
| He was already at UT playing football and won the track championship. | ||
| My mom still got the medals first place for the hurdles and all that sort of thing. | ||
| The point is, is he was a great guy. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So this is, like, an interesting personal story. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Alex is known to be a fabulist, so some of the details I have questions about. | ||
| But this is a very interesting kind of family story about, like, this grandpa's path to going to the... | ||
| This doesn't really speak to... | ||
| An important, general, broad truth about the Nazis or Hitler. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that in terms of the crimes that the Nazis committed, extortion, low on that list. | ||
| I mean, their fashion crime's clearly higher, according to Alex, even. | ||
| Their tyranny. | ||
| Their fashion tyranny. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think that Alex might think this is a bit more important than it is. | ||
| I am going to say this. | ||
| Based on what I have heard, I am hearing Alex say that he has read hundreds of books, studied this topic extensively, had many debates, conversations. | ||
| He researched all of this, and after learning everything he can about Hitler and World War II and Germany, he has come to the conclusion that his grandfather's real cool. | ||
| He's real cool. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| He's good at track. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He's good at track. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| That's the other thing that he learned from World War II. | ||
| His grandfather was good at track. | ||
| So here's another thing about the Nazis. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They wanted to kill H.G. Wells. | ||
| And you know, they wanted to kill him because he was competition. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| And then Alex says something real weird about his dad. | ||
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Okay. | |
| They even tried to have assassins kill H.G. Wells. | ||
| You're like, well, H.G. Wells wrote War of the Worlds. | ||
| Why do they want to kill a science fiction writer? | ||
| He also wrote a bunch of nonfiction books, and he was one of the main futurist brains of the British Empire, and they had an alternate eugenics plan that Aldous Huxley also wrote about in Brave New World. | ||
| An admitted letter was the actual plan that we're living under. | ||
| So we're living under the British Empire slow-roll eugenics depopulation system. | ||
| Kittler knew about the plan, but decided to only target certain groups. | ||
| And I have a lot of other data points on that, where people are brought in that are top scorers. | ||
| And say the Plan 2 operation at UT when they're in high school, already in college, and after they've gone through a year of testing and invented, they bring them in and they say, I'm the head of the botany department, I'm Jewish, and we don't like Hitler, but eugenics is the way to go, and we're basically going to target everyone, not just certain groups. | ||
| My father was giving that speech. | ||
| And he's about as Gaelic as you get. | ||
| He's no German in that guy. | ||
| He's English, Scottish, a little Irish. | ||
| The point is, he was top of his class. | ||
| He was the boy genius, too. | ||
| That's not the point. | ||
| And that's why they tried to recruit him. | ||
| And he got into it for a while and got out of it. | ||
| He thought it was immoral and wrong. | ||
| But he's never told me any of it, except that it was going on. | ||
| Then I'm right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right, Matt. | ||
| So yeah, I can't conceive of a world where Alex's grandpa is a guy who made combat robots for the Pentagon and what have you. | ||
| And then his... | ||
| Wait, no. | ||
| It's the other side of the family, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because his dad's not German. | ||
| His dad can't be German. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If his grandfather... | ||
| If his dad's dad is German... | ||
| It's the other side of the family. | ||
| His dad has to be German, too. | ||
| Yeah, because... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the other side of the family. | ||
| Yes, it has to be. | ||
| But his dad... | ||
| Right. | ||
| I still... | ||
| Okay, that was an extra layer to it, but I still can't conceive of a world where you have the smartest fucking boy in Texas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're brought in, and they're like, we're fucking evil. | ||
| We're gonna do all this stuff. | ||
| You get involved for a little bit, and then you get out. | ||
| I don't think that the evil worldwide conspiracy could work that way. | ||
| It's sloppy. | ||
| It's just, you know, in movies, in movies, because that's what we're doing. | ||
| We're just talking movies now. | ||
| Let's just talk movies. | ||
| In movies, they're like, you can't leave. | ||
| We'll kill you. | ||
| Because obviously you can't leave because they'll kill you. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It seems that way. | ||
| You can't just be like, I'm out of here, friends. | ||
| I'll go tell other people about this vast, decades-long conspiracy that controls the world and is the British Empire's eugenics program! | ||
| It seems like the stakes are too high. | ||
| A little high! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotta give it to the British Empire's slow-roll eugenics program. | ||
| Slow-roll. | ||
| Didn't even see it happen, yeah. | ||
| So here's the issue that I run into. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Right. | |
| A lot of this seems to be based in movies and shit talk from his family. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I don't care about either. | ||
| It does seem like family legend is most of history in this story. | ||
| All of it seems so much more important than the fucking Holocaust. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| In terms of when you're talking about why the Nazis are bad and why Hitler sucks. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Yeah, I think this is one of those things where it is like, okay, before we even, you know, I don't even want to engage with what you have to say first, because I want to understand what you want out of saying this, right? | ||
| And what Alex wants out of saying all of this is to feel better about the fact that he essentially agrees with Hitler. | ||
| In a lot of ways, and that large portions of his audience love Hitler. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And think he doesn't love Hitler enough. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So, like, at the end of all of this, the goal, the end point is... | ||
| It's self-soothing, really. | ||
| I feel better about the fact that I agree with Hitler. | ||
| Yeah, and kind of trying to put a brave, positive face on the Twitter post that everybody was like, fuck you, you don't like Hitler enough. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's kind of a large bit of it. | ||
| All right, fair enough. | ||
| So, we get off this topic. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know if I trust you. | ||
| The deep dive has... | ||
| Finished. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because we have a big guest. | ||
| Okay, that's right. | ||
| Pascal Najati is our guest. | ||
| His father was a founding, the founding member with Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum. | ||
| And he was born educated in Switzerland. | ||
| He worked in public relations before moving into management and mutual funds. | ||
| From 93 to 2003, he served as a managing board member of Dresner Bank in London and was a chair of capital markets covering Central Europe, Central Asia, the Russian Federation, Africa, the Middle East. | ||
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After the assassination of Malaysia of his father, prominent banker Shane... | |
| We'll pull some photos up of Hussein Nujati. | ||
| Pascal, a veteran of the Swiss Air Force, began his whistleblowing and... | ||
| Has been covering the gamut since. | ||
| He's on Rumble. | ||
| So, it's convenient that Pascal started this whistleblowing after his father died, because there's no evidence that his father was a founding member of the World Economic Forum. | ||
| So Pascal's father, Hussein Najati, wrote an autobiography called The Sea and the Hills, The Life of Hussein Najati. | ||
| And in it, he discusses being invited to attend the World Economic Forum in 1981. | ||
| Back then, it was called the Davos Economic Forum. | ||
| This was ten years after the organization was founded. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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He was invited to attend. | |
| What's likely being misrepresented is that Hussein says that he was the chair of the first, quote, gathering of developing countries at the World Economic Forum in Davos. | ||
| something that Klaus Schwab asked him to do in 1981, and he brought in representatives from India, Malaysia, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia. | ||
| In the same passage from his book, Hussein says that he, quote, remained a member of the organization until 1985. | ||
| So he was there... | ||
| During this section of time. | ||
| You did not co-found it. | ||
| Pascal Najati is someone who's made some of the rounds doing COVID conspiracy content and pushing Bitcoin. | ||
| So adding a layer that his dad was the co-founder of the World Economic Forum does tend to give him a bit of outsized importance given that Klaus Schwab is this season's grand villain. | ||
| It's unfortunately not true, but good for a story. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if... | ||
| And you made it past Alex's rigorous screening. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think, honestly, if you discover that in your family history, and you're like, I don't know, I'm working at blank, this is a good gig. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, like, if your dad has this autobiography, and you've got this, like, immediate in, you know, that's a better hourly rate than Subway. | ||
| I would assume so. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Making sandwiches is fun, though. | ||
| There is that. | ||
| I also heard, I don't know if this is totally true, but I heard that Pascal's grandfather invented combat robots. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| There's a lot of people doing that these days. | ||
| There's a big competition, Neil. | ||
| I realized that this guy's dad did not co-found the World Economic Forum. | ||
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Are you sure? | |
| Yes. | ||
| And it's being presented like he did. | ||
| Very strongly. | ||
| And so this makes me... | ||
| Worried. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
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Lying? | |
| Lying out the gate? | ||
| Well, and it makes me worried for where is this interview going to go? | ||
| And thankfully, I'll say to Pascal's credit, it goes weird almost immediately. | ||
| All right, Pascal Najati, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Your dad was a founding member of the WF, Klaus Schwab. | ||
| He looked it up. | ||
| That's on record. | ||
| He was assassinated in Malaysia. | ||
| Prominent Iranian banker, your father, Hussein Najati. | ||
| And you are speaking out. | ||
| As a Swiss citizen and as a humanitarian against what's happening, perhaps you should start at the beginning about your father, yourself, when you awoken, and then you do a great job in other videos laying out where we are. | ||
| But some of those videos are months old. | ||
| I want to get an update from you. | ||
| Because the world really is awakening to the horror. | ||
| They thought we wouldn't be able to face this horror. | ||
| That was baked into it, but it's really backfired where you think things are going from here. | ||
| So thank you so much for spending time with us. | ||
| I know it's in the evening there, and so thank you. | ||
| Well, I'm on your continent. | ||
| Alex, thank you very much. | ||
| Oh, so you're over here right now? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, who knows? | ||
| We're everywhere. | ||
| The Space Force can be everywhere. | ||
| Now, I want to greet you specifically because it's an honor to be on your show, and thank you very much for your time. | ||
| I want to greet your audience and all the human beings, human species, I call them now because we are human species. | ||
| Be careful with terminology. | ||
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All right. | |
| The world. | ||
| And I would like to say special gratitude to all the brave men and women that are in active war duty since March 27, 2020, fighting for our liberty globally under the Title 50 USC, Section 1550, which is the global defense war that President Trump, wartime President Trump, current wartime President Trump and command in chief of the United States has started. | ||
| A lot of respect to these people because they are under secrecy. | ||
| No one can confirm it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Okay. | ||
| We're off to the races. | ||
| We've packed a lot in a very small space. | ||
| Quite a bit. | ||
| Quite a bit. | ||
| But, you know, everything is just like, uh-oh. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| I'm on your continent. | ||
| The rhythm is disrupted by that a little bit. | ||
| Alex made a mistake. | ||
| You're on Eastern Standard Time. | ||
| You're not in Central. | ||
| We get it. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| I'd like to greet all the humans. | ||
| Starting to get a little concerned. | ||
| Is this ice beneath me creaking? | ||
| I think it might be. | ||
| Then the active duty thing. | ||
| That is... | ||
| I think what's so scary about that is there are so many possible things that he could be referencing, like, I'm supporting active duty people. | ||
| Well, sure, support the troops. | ||
| That's not what he's doing. | ||
| That are like, I'm fucked up. | ||
| You supporting this is fucked up. | ||
| That's not what he's doing. | ||
| But then him adding the layer of, it's actually Trump who declared space war? | ||
| Current wartime president. | ||
| Current wartime president Trump, space war. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Love it. | ||
| So this has to do with an executive order that Trump signed on March 27th, 2020. | ||
| Executive Order 13912, which covered the authorization to move some reservists to active duty thanks to the COVID pandemic. | ||
| The authority to do this was predicated on Proclamation 9994, which was the declaring of a state of emergency over COVID, which ended on May 11th, 2023. | ||
| By virtue of that emergency declaration ending, this executive order is null and void. | ||
| Either that or we're in a secret fucking... | ||
| I don't know anymore because I kept calling them humans, but now I need to call them human species or something? | ||
| Not human beings. | ||
| Could be anything. | ||
| Could be anything at this point. | ||
| So we do know, and I'm not making jokes about this or anything, his dad was murdered. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Yeah, I believe that. | ||
| And his dad did have involvement with the World Economic Forum in 1981 to 1985. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It turns out that Pascal also ended up going to the World Economic Forum. | ||
| It's a point in the 90s because he was working at a bank and they asked him to sponsor something. | ||
| I'll let him tell the story. | ||
| Yeah, let's hear this. | ||
| Because it's wild. | ||
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Let me hear you. | |
| Let's hear this. | ||
| And I was a banker in London and Dresden Bank was the second largest German bank in the 90s. | ||
| Deutsche Bank and then Dresden Bank and I was a board member of Dresden Bank London. | ||
| And they asked me to co-sponsor this thing. | ||
| I took a lot of money in my hands. | ||
| Not my money, it was the bank's money. | ||
| I had a big banner everywhere. | ||
| I wanted to see myself what this was like. | ||
| And I went there to Salzburg. | ||
| It was the summer weft in 1998. | ||
| And at the castle in Salzburg on the rock, Schwab knows how to do this, right? | ||
| To make this big show. | ||
| He hosted a cocktail for the co-sponsors and the so-called Global leaders, so they called me young global leaders. | ||
| I thought it's crazy. | ||
| And I went up to him because I didn't meet him. | ||
| You know, this is his office doing all this paperwork with our lawyers and our people. | ||
| And I went up to him and said, I'm a dude from Dresden Bank and nice to meet you. | ||
| Remember me? | ||
| The guy turned on his spot. | ||
| He literally ran away from me. | ||
| And I said, the guy has a problem with himself. | ||
| That's very rude. | ||
| On one hand, I couldn't comprehend it. | ||
| I think we spent about 350,000 Deutschmarks at that time. | ||
| It was quite a lot of money to have a banner up there. | ||
| And I just felt disgusted. | ||
| Not because he didn't grieve me. | ||
| I don't care if this guy says hello to me or not. | ||
| But I saw something else. | ||
| And if you take a light, it obliterates darkness. | ||
| It seems to me that I represented for him light, and he just couldn't stand my proximity. | ||
| Well, let's speculate. | ||
| Do you think as your dad broke away from the group being a founding member and used to lead panels that he hadn't clicked that you were a sponsor and that's why he panicked? | ||
| Or why would he, when you just come over and say hi, freak out and run away? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| A mix of everything. | ||
| It's probably everything. | ||
| I mean, I made this story up a long time ago, so I've had plenty of time to think up a possible motive, and yet somehow I still get away with not having one. | ||
| I think a great motive is I represented light, and he was the darkness, and he could not stand in my light. | ||
| That is a good place to stop. | ||
| I do love this image. | ||
| It's 1998. | ||
| Cocktail party. | ||
| Castle. | ||
| Salzburg. | ||
| Klaus Schwab. | ||
| Runs away from him. | ||
| Saved by the bell is on the TV screen. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Is that Pascal Najati? | ||
| Run. | ||
| See, because I thought he was setting us up for a big Game of Thrones, like, they're at this Salzburg castle and he pushes somebody off a bridge screaming, what is dead may never die, or something. | ||
| And instead it's just like, ooh! | ||
| He didn't want to talk to me. | ||
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That's it. | |
| That's the whole story. | ||
| I could see, like, I always try to imagine the most details of this story being correct that I could believe. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I could believe just about everything along the way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Michael Schwab walking away from him because he got called away or something like that. | ||
| It's a coincidence. | ||
|
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Totally. | |
| And Pascal's adding a whole lot of meaning to it. | ||
| And this is me being generous, accepting a lot of details of the story as just like, I'll stipulate that this is probably true. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| We'll just move on. | ||
| I can still see a benign explanation for this that isn't him running away from him. | ||
|
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Nope. | |
| Nope. | ||
| But it's fun. | ||
| I could even see him making up this story just because Klaus was like, sorry, I can't. | ||
| And then he apologized and left, you know? | ||
| It's fun, though. | ||
| It's a fun story. | ||
| I have to admit that. | ||
| And Alex likes it. | ||
| And if I were Alex, I would be a lot more worried. | ||
| There are indications that this interview is not going to go well, and Alex is ignoring them because there is good COVID conspiracism. | ||
| This guy's supposed to be adjacent to the World Economic Forum. | ||
| It's very attractive as an interview guest, so we're going to ignore some glaring sirens that are saying, dude, get off the call. | ||
| Get off the call. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| And here's one that I started to notice. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's saying that a lot of people are dead. | ||
| The WF was a Kissinger CIA operation, a deep state operation. | ||
| Schwab was, he's executed, a fascist Nazi. | ||
| And he was interlinked with the Swiss government. | ||
| To be very clear, I'm a Swiss Air Force officer, and I gave an oath to protect the Constitution. | ||
| So Klaus Schwab is dead. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Apparently. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I started to notice this. | ||
| A lot of people he's referencing. | ||
| Already executed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Secretly. | ||
| And this just is sad and Alex doesn't push back. | ||
| It just goes on. | ||
| People keep popping up dead. | ||
| It's the first broad scale. | ||
| State sponsored. | ||
| That's what they must say. | ||
| State sponsored. | ||
| Mass murder of your own population. | ||
| And they monetize it where they make money while they do it. | ||
| No, it's not the money. | ||
| No, no, it's not about money. | ||
| I'm saying they know how to use money to fund it to make sure it's carried out. | ||
| It was sponsored by the WHO, which is... | ||
| Look, Bill Gates is executed. | ||
| Bill Gates was in bed with the rogue elements of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And they were planning this, of course, and the biggest financier of WHO, go and check the website, was... | ||
| WHO's gone now. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| The Chinese, the Communist Party. | ||
| World Health Organization's gone. | ||
| Bill Gates is gone. | ||
| I am... | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| I'm interested in this kind of Marie Kondo-ing of the narrative. | ||
| You know, like, oh, I just don't need this, so it's gone. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| If I were Alex, I'd be very worried. | ||
| I would be done. | ||
| I would be like, excuse me? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Yeah, but he's, you know, he's a guy who believes that he's been poisoned by the COVID vaccine. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he has a certain amount of popularity, I guess, on Rumble or something. | ||
| But there's some stuff that is just like, you gotta deal with this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't just ignore that he's saying that Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates are dead and the World Health Organization is gone. | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| Here's the problem with that, right? | ||
| Is because of AI and deepfakes and stuff like that, in this world, you can't even really be like, I saw them on fucking TV holding today's newspaper. | ||
| You know, like, you can't even push back on them like that. | ||
| Because in the day before that... | ||
| Before AI and shit, you used to have to have a clone. | ||
| You used to have to have walk-ins. | ||
| You used to have to have a real reason for this stuff. | ||
| Hold on to that thought. | ||
| Oh, tell me. | ||
| Oh, thank you. | ||
| All of my complaints have been washed away. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| I have been baptized. | ||
| This might be more Wacky Wednesday than we expected. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| So, everything that's evil comes out of Geneva. | ||
| It's all Switzerland. | ||
| And Trump took it all out. | ||
| Everything evil is in Geneva, and it is obliterated already. | ||
| At least a privilege to you, President Trump, to tell you the news, but I declare the Swiss government right now is under control of the US military completely. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| And all of these people who were involved worldwide, with IOTA involved in finance, patching, planning, orchestrating, Now, I have claimed that I've proven that your dad was the co-founder of the World Economic Forum. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I was pretty excited about you as a whistleblower. | ||
| I built this up a little bit. | ||
| Now, as we're starting to have this conversation, you're telling me that Bill Gates is dead, Klaus Schwab is dead, the World Health Organization is gone, and Trump has used the military to take over Marshall Law in Switzerland. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| I'm gonna need to do something about this, because I can't let this stand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is too much. | ||
| Here's what I would say. | ||
| I would say, as we're going out to break, this is when Waylon Jennings' voiceover should have been like, who knows how Alex is going to handle this when we get back? | ||
| You know, like, that's where it goes. | ||
| Well, one, you know, option would be fake a tech difficulty. | ||
| Great one. | ||
| Get off the line. | ||
| It's a great option. | ||
| Another is to pretend you don't understand. | ||
| That's a bad option. | ||
| You were saying some things I follow, some things I don't, but I want to drill down to this. | ||
| Finish the point you were making before we hit break. | ||
| I want to ask Big Picture, how is it going for the New World Order? | ||
| Because I see videos with 50 million views and 300,000 comments, and I can't find comments that are pro-Bill Gates. | ||
| I can't find stuff that's pro-Klaus Schwab. | ||
| I mean, do they realize? | ||
| That they launched this attack, did all this, injected everybody with poison, and now it's blown up in their face? | ||
| I mean, this is crazy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Look, I'm here for a reason to tell you the truth. | ||
| I'm not talking nice about bad things. | ||
| I repeat Sergey Lavrov's words. | ||
| He's a great foreign minister of Russia. | ||
| Look, very simple. | ||
| They are satanic. | ||
| The Vatican was... | ||
| It's closed. | ||
| Pope Francis is executed. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, Vatican's gone. | ||
| Pope's gone. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Now we're done. | ||
| Now we're done. | ||
| Now we've got to re-up it. | ||
| Switch it around. | ||
| Tell me what isn't dead. | ||
| That's what you've got to do now. | ||
| I know Trump's not dead. | ||
| Hold on to that thought. | ||
| We will get to some people who are still alive. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But yeah, so we've got a lot of breaking news here. | ||
| A lot of breaking news. | ||
| I will say that I admire Alex's... | ||
| I believe whenever I would play, when I was bad at sports, they'd call it like stick-to-itiveness. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, that sort of like, you're focused. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Alex is still trying to make this work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How are the globalists doing? | ||
| How are they doing? | ||
| Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, no one likes them. | ||
| Now, I've already heard you say that they're both dead. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| I mean, if nobody likes them, then, you know, sooner or later you're going to get there. | ||
| He's still trying to hold on to this and thinking maybe we can salvage some shit. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| No, and certainly not. | ||
| This is kind of where things are past the breaking point. | ||
| So what is the master plan, and what do you think the globals are doing now? | ||
| Because everyone hates them. | ||
| No, they're finished. | ||
| Sorry? | ||
| My Commander-in-Chief, Donald J. Trump, said it March 2023. | ||
| People should learn to listen to President Trump. | ||
| He never lied. | ||
| He always pulled it through. | ||
| And he said, I will totally obliterate the deep state. | ||
| Those were his words. | ||
| Now, he said that... | ||
| Already after it was done. | ||
| It's not visible yet. | ||
| Elon Musk is gone. | ||
| Look at the dude. | ||
| It's not Elon Musk anymore, isn't it? | ||
| Look at Macron. | ||
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This is not Macron. | |
| Look at the official pictures of the Elysee. | ||
| It's not Macron anymore. | ||
| They're gone because the U.S. military and over 30 military forces without their leaders are under the control and command of the United States and the U.S. Space Force. | ||
| So you're saying this is like huge stuff. | ||
| You're saying there's been a coup against the globalists? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| How many fighter jets did Klaus Schwab command or some Elon Musk or some Bezos? | ||
| How many warships? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| None. | ||
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Okay. | |
| No. | ||
| They're finished. | ||
| They're finished! | ||
| Now, so here's where this becomes a problem for Alex, and obviously we're going to have to have some pushback. | ||
| We can have... | ||
| Pretending to not understand that Klaus Schwab is dead and all this. | ||
| Alex is an old hat at that, pretending that Steve Pchenik didn't say complete nonsense that he said. | ||
| But if the globalists are gone, Alex's raison d 'etre is gone. | ||
| There is nothing here if the globalists have secretly been taken care of. | ||
| This is like a pre-trib rapture for him. | ||
| He cannot handle this. | ||
| It cannot stand. | ||
| So if the globalists are taken care of... | ||
| Go fuck yourself, man. | ||
| We're gonna have to deal with this. | ||
| I can no longer ignore it. | ||
| I think, here's what's funny. | ||
| But this is not Q stuff. | ||
| This is absolutely not. | ||
| I would never indulge in some insanity like Q, you fool. | ||
| Here's what I think. | ||
| I imagine how difficult it must be to say, Trump never lied. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| Even his fans, none of them actually believe he never lied. | ||
| Part of the appeal is he's good at lying, right? | ||
| He can lie through the other liars. | ||
| He lies as good as them and better, but doesn't lie to us. | ||
| He's our liar. | ||
| I don't understand a guy who's like, he never lied. | ||
| Well, it's not a lie if there's a larger meaning to the lie. | ||
| So you can tell yourself that, and that way lies are part of an honest strategy. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| That could work. | ||
| Dangerous words. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I also think that doing this on Alex's show is dangerous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we finally see in this next clip, Alex decide, alright, I gotta push back a little bit here. | ||
| What do you make of Elon Musk? | ||
| Because he's certainly turned against the globalists. | ||
| He thinks they're done. | ||
| No, that's not Elon Musk anymore. | ||
| It's not Elon Musk. | ||
| He's gone. | ||
| Elon Musk. | ||
| It's fake news. | ||
| Elon Musk told people we go to Mars. | ||
| People, please think. | ||
| Did you see that rocket ship, that piece of metal with traditional so-called rocket fuel? | ||
| You want to go on a seven-month voyage? | ||
| You want to go through the Allen belt, which is 4,000? | ||
| Metal melts 1,200, 1,400. | ||
| It's all fake news. | ||
| The moon landing was fake. | ||
| We know it now, of course. | ||
| President Kennedy. | ||
| They got wind that they were lying to him, and President Kennedy is alive. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| He's alive, and JFK Jr. is alive, too. | ||
| He's the best friend of our current wartime president. | ||
| The system was rigged hundreds of years already. | ||
| NASA in Hebrew means to deceive. | ||
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What? | |
| That's all there. | ||
| You guys had a solar eclipse, Alex. | ||
| Everybody saw it, right? | ||
| In Dallas, there was the shadow. | ||
| Pascal Najati, I gotta say this. | ||
| Your dad was a founding member. | ||
| We looked it up. | ||
| You made these amazing, informative videos. | ||
| But you are now saying stuff that, I mean, we don't have the evidence of. | ||
| What evidence? | ||
| Sorry, the war is on. | ||
| You go to the congressional website, please. | ||
| Yeah, I got evidence. | ||
| I got things on.gov websites, buddy. | ||
| Yeah, Alex asking for evidence is gonna be a really slippery game. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| But... | ||
| He has had enough. | ||
| You can tell at this point. | ||
| JFK is still alive. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| Listen, at the very least, JFK is dead for sure in all of our cosmologies. | ||
| Well, no, because everyone else, Bill Gates, Klaus Robb, all of them dead. | ||
| JFK is still alive. | ||
| Listen, I'm fine with them being dead. | ||
| I'm even fine with JFK Jr. being alive. | ||
| But seriously, we all have to find a bottom somewhere. | ||
| JFK is dead. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Apparently not. | ||
| I demand! | ||
| So, Hillary... | ||
| What did she... | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Actually, you know what? | ||
| That's my response to all Hillary things. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| She's gone. | ||
| Good. | ||
| You're saying Elon Musk has been killed and is a fake? | ||
| He's gone. | ||
| But look at the photos. | ||
| People. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Look at the photos of the dude. | ||
| It's not Elon Musk anymore. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Where's Hillary Clinton? | ||
| She's gone. | ||
| I just published... | ||
| She's gone. | ||
| I even published the execution shot in Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| She's gone. | ||
| Oh, you have a photo of her being executed? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's in my video. | ||
| It's coming out tonight on Rumble. | ||
| I have all the photos of the people executed. | ||
| Obama, Clinton, Joe Biden. | ||
| They were traitors. | ||
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Clinton... | |
| Okay, here's the deal for you, Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 2016, we had an election. | ||
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And... | |
| Hillary Clinton, the Clintons wanted to steal it with the deep state. | ||
| They wanted to kill us earlier with COVID, by the way. | ||
| But thanks to Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and the U.S. military intelligence and General Flynn and special operations, they were able to make a counter-coup against Hillary Clinton and catch her. | ||
| They caught her red-handed, and President Trump said it. | ||
| We caught them all red-handed. | ||
| Obama knew it. | ||
| Clinton knew it. | ||
| Joe Biden knew it. | ||
| No, no, I agree with you. | ||
| The globalist power structure is falling. | ||
| You can see that everywhere. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| Karl Schwab is gone. | ||
| He's executed. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Our Delta forces took him out with the Swiss military coordinator. | ||
| The Swiss territory is under full control of the United States military right now as we speak. | ||
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Love it. | |
| And the Pope's dead, too. | ||
| The Pope is executed. | ||
| Look at the picture. | ||
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The Easter address on the balcony. | |
| Oh, poor Alex. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Sir, my name is Alex Jones, and you have lost your mind. | ||
| Sir, I fucked up. | ||
| And the Pope's dead, too, huh? | ||
| But I have this booking. | ||
| Every single part of... | ||
| This was a mistake. | ||
| Man, you know... | ||
| Again, sometimes there's just a gift of clarity. | ||
| Hitler equals bad. | ||
| Simple. | ||
| This guy, everything I've ever done is wrong because it led me to this guy. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's quite a snapshot. | ||
| I've got to imagine that Marjorie Taylor Greene is thrilled that she was on this episode too. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
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We've left her so far back and the moon landing was faked. | |
| So Alex brings up an important question. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And that is... | ||
| The popes did? | ||
| Well, that was an important question. | ||
| But the secondary important question is, if the globalists are all gone, why am I still getting shit on? | ||
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Totally. | |
| Why am I still persecuted? | ||
| And Pascal's answer is, you're not. | ||
| So all I know is, I'm still being persecuted by the deep state right now. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Why are you? | ||
| From who? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I mean, it's just like, I mean, it's constant, nonstop, trying to shut us down. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| What you tell these people, it's very simple, Alex. | ||
| You inform them that they are under the U.S. Law of War Manual, 2015, updated July 23. And you tell them that they are under Title 50, USC 2381. | ||
| Influencing or meddling with local journalists? | ||
| American? | ||
| What about U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 500? | ||
| U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 500? | ||
| I can't remember the exact code number. | ||
| You know about the code, U.S. Title, where it deals with secret testing on humans? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He's very jealous that Pascal was saying numbers. | ||
| That he knew. | ||
| And so he tried three times to say his favorite subsection. | ||
| Oh, God, it's brutal. | ||
| I mean, okay. | ||
| It never occurred to me. | ||
| In my imagination, this never happened. | ||
| But now I'm seeing it, okay? | ||
| I imagine Luke and Darth Vader facing off, holding their lightsabers. | ||
| Click the and then limp wet noodles pop out. | ||
| And then they kind of like wave them back and forth. | ||
| That is the section C-51 combat. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Like that subsection that Alex is trying to come up with is a non sequitur. | ||
| It is legitimately just, hey, this guy's saying fucking subsections. | ||
| I'm gonna too. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's a lightsaber battle between words that don't mean anything. | ||
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Yes. | |
| But man, do I love the moment of... | ||
| Why am I still being persecuted if the globalists are gone? | ||
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You're not. | |
| You're not. | ||
| Quit complaining. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I love a good quit complaining. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is... | ||
| It's very... | ||
| It's almost... | ||
| It's refreshing to see somebody truly hit a brick wall who thought that brick walls didn't exist. | ||
| Because we've... | ||
| Well, they usually don't. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm so used to this. | ||
| Well, usually a lot of people who Alex ends up talking to are playing games, and they're playing the same game as him, and he's very able to influence the direction that things go. | ||
| But sometimes he runs into somebody who's playing a different game. | ||
| A completely different game. | ||
| This is a different game. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yay was playing a different game. | ||
| Just a different game. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| you're not going to be able to influence this guy. | ||
| No. | ||
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Because JFK is still fucking alive. | |
| You know that? | ||
| And you say President Kennedy? | ||
|
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He is Q. Q is real. | |
| It's not conspiracy. | ||
| Guys, look at the birthday of JFK. | ||
| The guy's back broken in World War II. | ||
| There aren't a lot of World War II vets left. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| I disagree with that. | ||
| I don't need you to agree with me. | ||
| It's non-negotiable. | ||
| It's non-negotiable. | ||
| JFK Jr., Hillary tried to kill him. | ||
| Yes, it's true. | ||
| They're all alive, well and kicking. | ||
| All right? | ||
| And what's coming next will shock the people. | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| So JFK would be 99 right now. | ||
| You're saying JFK is alive? | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| My father-in-law, my fiancé's father just passed away at 101, and he was drinking champagne on his birthday. | ||
| And he was running... | ||
| Okay, if he's Q, JFK, President JFK is running major operations at 99 years old. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You've got his son? | ||
| Really, man? | ||
| He's about my age, a bit older, maybe one or two years. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Yeah, what are you, stupid? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Of course JFK is still alive and in charge, but he lets his son do the busy work, idiot. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Do I have to do everything for you? | ||
| Think it through before you talk, Alex. | ||
| This is embarrassing. | ||
| God, what a fucking mess. | ||
| Just a mess. | ||
| You have... | ||
| No more apt words to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a mess. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex asks a very logical question, and that is, are you doing performance art? | ||
| Are you fucking with me? | ||
| Basically. | ||
| Stop fucking with me! | ||
| Pascal Najati, I really, really, really... | ||
| I appreciate you coming on here. | ||
| I'd like to say one thing. | ||
| No, no, you can say whatever you want. | ||
| You can say whatever you want. | ||
| I'm asking a question. | ||
| You come off as really believing what you're saying. | ||
| Is this performance art, or is this to discredit things, or you really? | ||
| Because the poison shot's real, but now you're off in the Easter Bunny Santa Claus area. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Excuse me, no. | ||
| That would be an insult to all brave. | ||
| Men and women, my comrades, not in the U.S. military, but of 33 or 34, we don't know exactly, military organizations that are fighting for your and our liberty right now. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Yeah, Alex is disrespecting... | ||
| Can't disrespect the 30 to 34 troops. | ||
| We have no way of knowing how many organizations... | ||
| But it's all secret. | ||
| And so, yeah, this is... | ||
| No, he's serious. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| Maybe? | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| Is he happy? | ||
| Who? | ||
| This dude. | ||
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Is he doing great? | |
| Is he having a good life? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, maybe he is. | ||
| You know? | ||
| If his backstory of being a fairly successful banker is true, then he's probably comfortable. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| There's a part of me that's like, whenever you're this guy. | ||
| You know, when you're throwing JFK is still alive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, I stop thinking about people engaging in our reality, and I start thinking about, like, uncontacted tribes. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, they believe all kinds of shit, right? | ||
| And they have no idea, and you're not going to give them a phone? | ||
| Well, I think a lot of anxiety comes from uncertainty. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And when you have just decided certainty around everything... | ||
| 100% certainty. | ||
| I think that it would have an impact in making you probably... | ||
| A little bit more comfortable, generally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I could see him being pretty happy. | ||
| I mean, you know, like, I'm not saying that this is a model that we should, like... | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But I am saying that in the competition between these two specifically, I would rather be this guy than Alex. | ||
| He does seem happier than Alex. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, it's not... | ||
| As long as there's no, like, it has to be one or the other. | ||
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No, it's a false choice. | |
| Okay, don't make me choose. | ||
| Yeah, no, you don't have to choose one of these two. | ||
| Oh, thank God. | ||
| So Hillary is gone. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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But you might notice that she's been going around giving speeches. | |
| I have noticed that. | ||
| She even tweeted something that was very stupid. | ||
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Little do you know, there's clones. | |
| Get me Clinton online, and then I can have whatever you want from me. | ||
| She doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| I mean, she's been at universities giving speeches. | ||
| There's doubles. | ||
| We spent a billion dollars on clones, man. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Technology. | ||
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Yes. | |
| That's not your claim. | ||
| Well, I'll say this. | ||
| Joe Biden doesn't look like Joe Biden. | ||
| Joe Biden, his name is mostly Arthur Roberts. | ||
| I don't know where I'm going. | ||
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Are we doing bits? | |
| Dude. | ||
| Are we doing bits? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It seems strange for Alex to play into his thing. | ||
| Like, hey, maybe we spent a billion dollars on clones, dude. | ||
| Yeah, Joe Biden doesn't look like him. | ||
| Doesn't look like Joe Biden. | ||
| That's like a tick. | ||
| Or an instinct. | ||
| I don't know what that is. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| But he has to do that. | ||
| If there's something like that, he's like, oh, also Biden's a clone. | ||
| He just does it. | ||
| And I like the proof that Hillary Clinton doesn't exist anymore is that you can't get her on the phone. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| If I have never been able to get her on the phone, I might posit that that is not good evidence for me. | ||
| So look, she's a clone. | ||
| Everybody's a clone. | ||
| Except JFK, he's alive. | ||
| I'm sorry, why can't you be a clone? | ||
| This interview didn't go great. | ||
| Why can't JFK Jr. be a clone of JFK? | ||
| Maybe he is. | ||
| We don't know, actually. | ||
| This is something for the next interview. | ||
| See, this is the shit, though. | ||
| Once you throw in clones, now we're talking artificial aging. | ||
| You're telling me that we can accelerate the growth of the clone? | ||
| So she looks like she's however old she is now, but the clone itself is only 20 years old? | ||
| We haven't had technology for that long, man. | ||
| Dahlia the Sheep has only been around for so long. | ||
| We don't have the technology to artificially age clones. | ||
| Has she always been a clone? | ||
| How long have we had cloning technology? | ||
| Since the 1920s? | ||
| Is JFK still alive? | ||
| We've had cloning forever. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And they're not artificially aged. | ||
| They just knew when Hillary Clinton was born because of psychics that she was going to be important. | ||
| So they made two of her. | ||
| They made an extra. | ||
| Yeah, there's so many people. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Think it through. | ||
| You're embarrassing yourself like Alex. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| So this interview wasn't good. | ||
| It didn't go great. | ||
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No. | |
| Kind of fell apart. | ||
| Seemed like a great idea. | ||
| To talk to the guy whose dad co-founded the WEF. | ||
| I understand why that would be irresistible. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But he gets a bad review from Alex at the end here. | ||
| God's hand is guiding us. | ||
| It's guided me to the truth. | ||
| And the new world only has room for truth. | ||
| We are done with bullshit. | ||
| We are done with the lies from governments. | ||
| That's all I can say. | ||
| You're the safest country on the world right now, the United States of America. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you, and I appreciate it. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to give people my approximation. | ||
| It's only my opinion. | ||
| The world has gone completely insane, and people cannot handle the incredible bioweapon attack we've been under, and you've got people loving Hitler, and we've got people believing that the deep state's been defeated, and... | ||
| I don't think that guy came off like a con artist. | ||
| I think that guy is completely out of his mind. | ||
| I do appreciate. | ||
| This is the very first time, I think, where I can give an unqualified, I agree, Alex, shit. | ||
| Is nuts out there. | ||
| The world has gone mad. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I don't know of any other time that I've heard an interview with Alex and with him being like, that dude was nuts. | ||
| That dude's nuts. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| That dude's nuts. | ||
| And I think he could have gotten away with everything except for his worldview removing the threat of the globalists. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think that that's really the bridge that's too far. | ||
| Alex probably would have him back if he was just like, all these people are dead. | ||
| Secretly. | ||
| Yeah, but the globalists have told you that they're... | ||
| So you think that the... | ||
| You could probably get away with clones, even. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's not... | ||
| Listen, you're right. | ||
| You should be mad at Klaus Schwab. | ||
| Klaus Schwab is dead though, the person who's doing Klaus Schwab's job is this person now. | ||
| Right. | ||
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You know, it's the job that's the same. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Just that Schwab is dead. | |
| The people who are above him are not dead. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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And they are the ones you need to be worried about. | |
| Once you've gotten rid of the conspiracy, that's the whole thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Once the threat that like sort of animates and motivates you to believe Alex's dumb shit is gone, then we just, we can't do anything here. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I... | ||
| I regret saying that I proved that your dad founded the WEF. | ||
| It was a bad move. | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| So Alex has to try and spin this. | ||
| How? | ||
| Well, I think he does... | ||
| Nah, I was going to say a decent job. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| Because I see guests. | ||
| I say, hey, get this guy on. | ||
| Get that person on. | ||
| We don't, you know... | ||
| Do a good job. | ||
| I do some vetting. | ||
| I check in the ER. | ||
| But I notice that guy's never talked like that that I've seen for years. | ||
| He comes on my show, and then he just slits his wrist on air. | ||
| If he is doing it on purpose, he is an incredible actor. | ||
| I know that came off as pure mental illness. | ||
| And who can blame somebody cracking up in a trench? | ||
| God is the answer to all this. | ||
| That's why they say there is no atheist in a foxhole. | ||
| Well, there's not a lot of sane people in a foxhole either. | ||
| That's an Alex Jones quote. | ||
| Insanity lives in foxholes. | ||
| That's an Alex Jones quote. | ||
| Just to be clear, In response to this man saying this clearly dead guy is still alive, I'm going to talk about God. | ||
| So Alex, I think, is trying to imply that Pascal was a false flag. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He says a bunch of really good stuff for Alex, like the anti-WEF stuff and the COVID conspiracies, but then he injects all the globalists are dead thing to discredit the message. | ||
| But he wasn't saying all that wacky stuff before, so he must just be saying this as an attempt to blow things up in Alex's face. | ||
| In reality, Pascal's been saying this stuff pretty regularly for a while, and Alex just does zero vetting of his guests. | ||
| His dad wasn't a co-founder of the WEF, and if Alex had taken one look on this dude's Rumble channel, he would have seen videos with titles like The Storm is Upon Us or, quote, Fact, Traitor Former VP Under Traitor Obama, The Real Joe Biden Has Been Executed for Treasurer. | ||
| That was from like a month ago, so this shouldn't be a surprise. | ||
| But the idea of interviewing the son of the co-founder of the WF, And that can't be Alex's fault for not looking into his guests, because... | ||
| You know, if that's the reality, it tends to call into question how well he fests any of the people that come on his show and say insane things, and then the whole house of cards falls apart, and you realize all of these very prestigious doctors and lieutenant colonels and section chiefs maybe are the same kind of credibility. | ||
| Yeah, yep. | ||
| Because once you... | ||
| Truly entertain the idea that this guy said something that's so crazy it cannot possibly be true. | ||
| Like, once you've created that hard and fast, here is a rule. | ||
| Then you have to start applying that backwards, and that's bad for everybody. | ||
| Not if the person was saying it as an attack. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Then you got caught up in a psyop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's probably a psyop. | ||
| Yeah, otherwise you're like, oh, well, if this person is demonstrably, literally lying to me, or is just crazy, who else? | ||
| And you can't have that thought. | ||
| No, it does, like I said, it starts to unravel things a little bit. | ||
| But yeah, that's where we take our exit. | ||
| I'd say a mess, you know? | ||
| It's a strange day at the office for Alex. | ||
| Do you know what's kind of funny? | ||
| Immediately after Alex said JFK was 99, I was like, my grandfather died at 101. | ||
| And then his dad died at 101. | ||
| And I did, it's just like, man. | ||
| I also think Alex's math is off. | ||
| JFK would be older than that. | ||
| But, regardless. | ||
| I mean, it's just like, Alex, you have done the absolute... | ||
| The wrongest way of approaching the idea of somebody telling you JFK is still alive being like, ah, he would be 99. No, oh my god. | ||
| Well, I think that he did. | ||
| I think that is a-okay. | ||
| Maybe he's 99 isn't the end-all be-all, but he had a bad back from World War II. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That's maybe a little bit more, it helps you put into perspective. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| He was in bad health when he was alive-alive. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Famously, he was unable to fuck good because his back hurt so bad. | ||
| But maybe that was a sigh-off. | ||
| Ooh, now that should be a sigh-off. | ||
| To trick us into thinking that he's dead when he's actually alive. | ||
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They were planning that back in the 60s. | |
| Makes sense. | ||
| So, yeah, I don't know what to say. | ||
| Just a total mess of an episode. | ||
| I don't think he did a great deep dive on Hitler. | ||
| I think this booking was a disaster. | ||
| But amusing. | ||
| At least it was amusing. | ||
| And I do think that's always kind of... | ||
| I mean, this is the faintest fucking praise in the world. | ||
| And I know it's cynically calculated on Alex's part. | ||
| But at least he doesn't put up with this. | ||
| At least there is, like... | ||
| Something that is like, nah, you're talking bullshit here. | ||
| It does feel like Alex in some way agrees with me that at the end of the floor is JFK's fucking dead. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I don't care who you think did it. | ||
| Somebody did it. | ||
| Could have been... | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| But he is fucking dead. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Is this the... | ||
| That's the floor. | ||
| That's the reality that we must anchor everything to. | ||
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All of us, yes. | |
| Everyone needs to... | ||
| So if you believe that JFK is alive... | ||
| Everything's wrong. | ||
| Then, okay. | ||
| But as long as JFK is dead... | ||
| We've created a kernel of shared reality. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think that actually might be a good place to start. | ||
| JFK is fucking dead. | ||
| Everyone spread the word! | ||
| I think we need a little more than that. | ||
| But for now, it may be as best as we're gonna get. | ||
| It feels that way. | ||
| So, we'll be back for another episode. | ||
| But until then... | ||
| We have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We're not on social media. | ||
| We're not. | ||
| And Elon Musk apparently is a clone, so definitely not on Twitter. | ||
| But we'll be back. | ||
| Until then, I'm Neil. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DCXClark. | ||
| I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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