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April 1, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:35:00
#914: March 27, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's Wednesday show, only to get lost in a world full of eclipses, martial law drills, and a guy who sounds like Elon Musk.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
23:29
d
dan friesen
40:47
j
jordan holmes
22:33
Appearances
r
rabbi shmuley boteach
01:32
Clips
a
adrian dittman
00:29
c
chase geiser
00:22
l
liz churchill
00:03
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding me.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is April Fool's.
Wait.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
It's not April Fool's today, though.
dan friesen
Not when we're recording.
But that's the trick.
jordan holmes
Ah, you got me.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
What a shit holiday.
jordan holmes
It's not a holiday.
I think it's just a way for assholes to get away with it.
dan friesen
I think that anything that gets commemorated like that, that we celebrate on an annual basis, you could call that a holiday.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Maybe it's not a post office closing holiday.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, a day off is a holiday.
dan friesen
Yeah, I understand there's levels.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, man, just what a shitty...
Prank-based.
jordan holmes
Whose idea was it?
dan friesen
Some jerk.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yes, he would have to be.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Jerk who's like, I want to get away with all these jokes that I play on people that are mean-spirited.
jordan holmes
The worst part would probably be, it's probably not an interesting story either.
It's probably not some guy had started a thing and then it became a thing and then there was fans and that whole thing.
It's probably some asshole.
dan friesen
As the theme music was playing.
As we were about to start, I was thinking I'm going to make up a history of April Fool's Day to see how convincing I could be.
But I decided against it.
And I bet it is something boring.
Or it's something deeply pagan.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, if it was like a Satanist ritual, that would be amazing.
dan friesen
Anyway, happy April Fool's Day.
jordan holmes
It's actually Mithras' birthday, that's what I heard.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is a new season of Taskmaster.
dan friesen
Sure, saw it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, me too.
dan friesen
I have a problem.
jordan holmes
Me too.
dan friesen
Well, my only problem is that I feel like they really had a hit of a cast last season.
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
It's very difficult to top, like, Sam Campbell and everyone else, honestly.
But, of course, obviously Sam Campbell's the best.
Best weirdo they've ever had.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep, yep.
It's hard.
It's hard to...
And the cast, it's like...
Every year there's a part of me that's like, ah, you know, I don't know if this cast is going to be that good.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then they win you over.
jordan holmes
There's going to be a couple of champion weirdos.
I think there's a couple of champion weirdos in this season.
dan friesen
There's people with potential.
jordan holmes
I think there's a couple of wet blankets, too, and I think we're going to find them.
dan friesen
That may be, that may not be.
It's very difficult to tell within the first episode.
That's true.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And I think that, you know, you bring this up, and I've even pointed it out.
Every season's like, they can't top the last one with the cast, and then everything is fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
They know what they're doing, they cast well.
jordan holmes
They do tasks and you laugh.
It makes sense.
dan friesen
It's easy.
Do you have a winner from the first episode that you've picked out?
jordan holmes
Oh, uh, I don't remember.
dan friesen
The guy dressed up like Dracula?
jordan holmes
No, I don't remember anybody.
Ted Lasso is his nickname.
That's what I call him now.
No, it's what's her name?
dan friesen
The redhead?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
The swimming in the...
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
She's fun.
jordan holmes
She took it.
She really took it and went with it.
dan friesen
She seems fun.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's the Yes Anders.
It's the Yes Anders who always start off strong.
dan friesen
Yes Anders.
Deion Sanders.
High-stepping.
Showtime.
What was his nickname?
What was his nickname?
A little poetry for April Fool's Day.
jordan holmes
I appreciated a little poetry to start off April Fool's Day.
It's a good month, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a very literate holiday.
Was it Showtime?
jordan holmes
Who, Deion Sanderson?
dan friesen
Yeah, okay.
I got really worried because the Showtime Lakers is there, and so I thought, like, oh, these are the sports references I'm mixing up.
jordan holmes
No, you'll be all right.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about March 27th.
2024.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
I wanted to see what was going on here.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then there's an offshoot of that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So we're actually going to be talking about a special episode Alex did on the 28th as well.
jordan holmes
I like that.
I like that.
dan friesen
So it's sort of a Wednesday-Thursday deal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And we'll get down to business on all of this and what it pretends for the stars.
And I mean that literally because they talk a lot about the eclipse.
jordan holmes
Oh, the eclipse.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
But we'll get down to business on all this.
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Nam Hun and the Meat Boys with two E's, not the meat like non-vegan.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, I subscribed to Ask Dan to cover 2000s episodes of Cloak and Dagger with Sherman Skolnick and Lenny Bloom.
I have the white papers.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Go Toriyama.
Teach a dinosaur to ride a ball.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And go to sharebandbooks.com to give kids and teens free access to books that have been targeted by Republican book bans.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to way back in the days of old, there was a legend told about a hero known as Peter.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
More poetry.
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
dan friesen
So one of the things that led me to be like, we've got to talk about this here episode, was on the 26th, Alex mentioned that he was going to be having a debate with Rabbi Shmuley.
And for those who don't know who Rabbi Shmuley is, he is a rabbi who's been...
Celebrity for quite a while.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
In interesting ways.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
20 years ago or so, he had a show called Shalom in the Home, where he would go around and fix people's marriages.
jordan holmes
I still don't think that's an okay name.
dan friesen
Give them marriage advice and family advice and stuff like that.
I personally have known about him because he used to be a pretty regular guest on Loveline.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He would come on and help the kids.
And he just seemed like a delightful fellow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Although, also, he was Michael Jackson's spiritual advisor for a while.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
He has a lot of layers to him.
unidentified
That's...
jordan holmes
What is that?
You know...
When you say Michael Jackson's spiritual advisor for a while, there's really no way to put that into any context that can make any sense to anybody who wasn't alive for a very specific time during Michael Jackson's life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
There's just no way to explain it.
dan friesen
It was strange, and I had, as a younger person, just a very positive kind of association with him.
He seemed like a fun-loving...
Yeah.
And in later days, he's become very much a pro-Israel figure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is kind of the milieu in which he exists for Alex right now.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He is somebody who has been arguing with Candace Owens.
Cool.
Candace Owens has attacked him and his daughter, and also one of the inciting incidents probably about her...
Being forced out at the Daily Wire was her...
Accusing him of being drunk on the blood of Christians, which obviously is steeped in anti-Semitic tropes, and she knew exactly what she was doing.
And so the two of them got into a bit of a fight.
This sucked Alex in a little bit because he was defending Candace Owens.
jordan holmes
Those are fighting words.
I think if you say those words, we're fighting.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
And so I thought, well, this is something that is going to be bad, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that doesn't sound good.
Give you a good start whenever it begins at Are You Drunk on the Blood of Christians?
dan friesen
No, and Rabbi Shmuley is somebody who also is very passionate, let's say, in arguments.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So he goes on to, like, Piers Morgan, and he'll yell at people back, and so there was a feeling of, like, this is just gonna be a mess.
jordan holmes
He's like an arguetainer, that kind of thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
And...
I thought the combination of him and Alex was going to be not good.
And it wasn't.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, when something really reaches your expectations, you feel confident that you know the world.
dan friesen
And we're not actually going to end up hearing all that much of it.
jordan holmes
That also reaches my expectations.
dan friesen
But here is how Alex starts off the show discussing how this interview was going to come up.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
122 days.
12 hours, 59 minutes, 18 seconds.
The most important election in world history.
You can cut the suspense with a knife.
All right.
I am particularly prepared today.
I did about four hours of research preparation last night.
I've done at least four hours today.
And I get really mad at myself at the end of a show.
If I haven't hit most of it, and most of the time I only hit like half of it, I've got to hit all this new breaking news, plus a bunch of stuff the last few days, that I said I would get to, that is incredibly important, but didn't get to.
So, let me just do this.
Let me tell you who's coming on the broadcast.
Reverend Shmali, or Rabbi Shmali, excuse me, His Holiness, is going to be on with us in the third hour for a debate.
He's been very well known and popular for a long time.
Like going back decades ago to the Howard Stern Show, the guy's a complete maniac, or he's a comedian, or a mix of the two.
And I said, will you come on the show?
And he said, yes, I'll debate you, I'll destroy you, I'll crush you.
I don't want to have a debate with this guy where he projects what I believe, and then I debate that straw man.
I talked to him yesterday, and I said, can we just have a discussion?
People expect me to just attack this guy and then try to project this guy's behavior onto Judaism in general.
This interview will piss off the white supremacists and also people that are very upset for good reasons with Israel because I'm not intending to just attack this guy, though I disagree with much of what he says.
But if he attacks me, which I don't think he'll be able to control himself, there's a certain piranha-like nature to him, I'll be honest.
It's very cute, kind of like a gremlin or something, that if he does the attacks, then I'm going to let him have it.
But it should be informative and interesting.
dan friesen
It's not.
I would argue that if Alex doesn't want to fight with Rabbi Shmuley, then he has done an incredibly bad job of setting the table for this conversation.
In that intro alone, he called Shmuley reverend, then sarcastically said his holiness.
He called Shmuley a complete maniac or a comedian or a mix of the two.
He said Shmuley has a piranha-like nature and is a cute gremlin.
Before Shmuley makes one point, Alex has already characterized him as a dick who's going to create strawman arguments to attack him with.
If this is sincerely what you think about a person, then there's no reason to have them on your show other than knowing that you're likely to create a spectacle, and then that's good for ratings.
Alex knows this, or has every ability to know what Rabbi Shmuley's position on Israel and Gaza is, and should know that it doesn't match his own, or that of most of the InfoWars audience, so he knows there's probably some volatility here that can be...
Sure.
Alex knows what's going to happen, and this introduction is a cop-out for him.
He's trying to defuse whatever embarrassment is going to result from this booking in the off chance that Alex comes out looking bad.
I didn't want to do this.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
People expect Alex to attack Shmooley because Alex has been attacking Shmooley lately.
Candace Owens got the boot at the Daily Wire, at least in part due to her attacks on Rabbi Shmooley and his daughter, and her accusation that he was drunk on Christian blood.
Alex has firmly supported Owens and doesn't think that her actions were anti-Semitic at all.
This dynamic existing makes it impossible for this conversation between Alex and the rabbi to be a discussion about criticisms of the Israeli government and Alex's audience.
Yeah, it's...
jordan holmes
This is a weird comparison, I guess.
It reminds me of, like, whenever bands who had integrity would be forced to lip-sync on TV, and they would do some sort of protest or something, you know, where they're supposedly playing the song, and then somebody takes a giant drink of water while they're in the middle of singing, that kind of idea.
Like, if Shmuley just came in and went, Alex would still have the same one side of a debate.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
They would have just...
Canceled his audio, put a recording of something that he said earlier, and they could do the same thing.
Like, he doesn't need to be there.
dan friesen
Not really.
And I think that your analogy is apt, but what I think it's closer to, like what I respond to, is the way that Alex would act when he was going to interview a neocon, like Ann Coulter, back in the day.
He would say really inflammatory shit about that person pretty regularly, then they'd agree to come on the show, and at the beginning of the episode he'd say a bunch of...
Nonsense about how he wants a civil conversation, but he'd pepper in these insults because I'm pretty sure he's hoping that they cancel.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because then it'd be like they couldn't even come in and have a conversation.
He's trying to be a dick in order to make it so the person doesn't want to do the interview.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But how much of a dick can you really be until it's too much?
You want to be enough of a dick to make them cancel.
But if they come on, eventually you're going to feel bad if you're just too much of a dick to them and they stay there.
At a certain point, that's the power of just being able to endure it.
If somebody's mean enough to you for long enough, eventually they'll be like, you win.
I don't know what to do.
dan friesen
Well, Alex does mostly just...
I mean, he does end up focusing mostly on the fact that Shmuley has a history of very sex-positive.
Sure.
Like, he wrote a book called Kosher Sex about the...
jordan holmes
Draining the blood of your sex partner?
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
It's about trying to keep passion alive in a marriage.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah.
Well, that's also good, yeah.
dan friesen
And also, apparently, his daughter may or may not sell lube and butt plugs.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so he keeps, like, saying, you're a rabbi butt plug and stuff like that.
It devolves.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It devolves a bit.
jordan holmes
You're a rabbi butt plug!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, it's not good.
But neither of them really comport themselves.
No, I wouldn't say that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But, since this is Alex's show, you know, we're looking at Alex.
I think that there's a choice that Alex has made that is very suspicious.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
alex jones
I'd really like to get this guy to worry about the New World Order and the poison shots and what faces us all instead of the tunnel vision, only thinking about Israel constantly.
But regardless, that's coming up.
Now, Owen Benjamin is a great talk show host and comedian.
I don't agree with some of what he has to say, but he's interesting.
dan friesen
Like what?
alex jones
I agree with a lot of what he has to say.
He's very funny.
He's going to be hosting the fourth hour today.
So look for that.
Now, interspersed between this, I have got my work cut out for me.
dan friesen
I would say that Alex definitely has his work cut out for him.
He's going to try and get as much attention as he can from fighting with Rabbi Shmuley in the third hour, and then Owen Benjamin is hosting the fourth hour.
That's the Owen Benjamin who notably loves Hitler and lives in a compound in the woods live streaming about things like how much he likes Hitler.
The guy who famously hosted the fourth hour of Alex's show for a while until Alex let him go for being too much of a Nazi, at which point Owen began attacking Alex for working with the Jews.
I guess they worked out their differences somehow.
Strange, though, this one-two back-to-back.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I think a lot of people were surprised whenever Johnny Carson let Hitler host one episode immediately.
It's a strange choice.
It was a weird choice, but you know, you try and get some news out of there, you know, some clickbait, and there you go.
Doesn't always work well.
dan friesen
Owen Benjamin's segment is titled The Jew and the Jester.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
On band.video.
Video is up.
If you go and check it out, too, it's interesting.
But right behind him, so basically on the wall, right on Owen's shoulder, is a flat earth compass.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So you know the compass that has north at the middle and south in each direction.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
There's a flat earth compass, huh?
Maybe that's one of the ideas that Alex doesn't agree with.
jordan holmes
This is work on magnets, right?
dan friesen
Well, it's more like a compass rose, you know, like the direction.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Directional point.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I got you.
jordan holmes
I got you.
The map reading.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I got you, got you, got you.
dan friesen
So, heesh, this is a bad setup for a show.
jordan holmes
Not good, not good.
dan friesen
And it only gets worse.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Gerald Morgan of Stephen Crowder wanted me to come on their show this morning, and then later they said, well, actually, we're just going to make an announcement.
And then they said, can we come on and talk about this so people know how important?
These internal operations and attacks have been.
And I said, absolutely, because they've been big supporters of me when almost nobody else was when I was deplatformed.
And I've also known the inside baseball just because I had some of the same lawyers and some of the cases I've been involved in as they have in divorce proceedings.
So I was privy to this information a year and a half ago.
I was shown the information.
And so I knew it was true, and I knew that he was being set up.
And now they release damning.
And the reason this is important, you have to understand, I saw Eric Trump on Fox today, and he said, for everything you hear about us being attacked for, there are nine other things going on every day.
And I've never really tell you about the stuff that goes on behind the scenes, very little, because I don't want to be distracted.
But these tactics are being orchestrated from the deep state.
There's no doubt about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, Deep State's coming after Crowder.
jordan holmes
I don't know if there's anything less, like, intrepid political reporter than, I got this information because we share a divorce lawyer.
That's a Hollywood reason you got fucking hired for a movie.
dan friesen
Now, I will say, it strikes me as strange that...
Gerald is showing up instead of Steven.
jordan holmes
There is definitely that.
dan friesen
Definitely that.
Maybe there's some insulation going on and Steven's trying to not say anything publicly because he knows he's too close.
So it's a bad sign if you're one of Crowder's team members and your big move, like doing damage control, is to reach out to Alex.
You're definitely signaling that your crisis PR department doesn't have a lot of options.
So Crowder's been facing a slew of issues, from his divorce to the video of him berating his pregnant wife being released, and then there have been accusations of him fostering an abusive work environment.
Apparently he was a huge asshole to everyone who had a habit of exposing his genitals, just to the extent that he was a huge asshole.
How does that become a habit?
April Fool's?
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
His former sidekick, Jared Monroe, who he called Not Gay Jared, has most recently been lobbying to be removed from his non-disclosure agreement because he has apparently some shit to talk.
My sense of this is that Jared knows a whole lot, and they are very scared of the possibility of him speaking freely, and I guess the best plan was to get Alex to vouch for them that they're being set up by the deep state.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's a pretty dumb plan, but...
dan friesen
Yeah.
much guarantees that Alex's audience who already didn't care if Crowder was an abusive prick continue to not be concerned about it.
Yeah.
unidentified
So that you shored up the base, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Here's what I find interesting about NDAs.
There's no good reason to have one.
You know, because my thought was like, oh, so it's like, you know, the non-evil version is like, oh, you don't want to, you work at a job and you don't steal their secrets and then go give it to another business, right?
dan friesen
Intellectual property kind of thing.
jordan holmes
That's already a crime.
The NDA is just there so they can get away with evil shit just like on the edge of a crime and then you can't bitch about it.
Like, isn't that the idea?
dan friesen
I think, unfortunately, in practice, it's probably a lot of the time the idea.
I don't know.
I don't know enough about the law or business at all to know, but I would imagine that there are some instances where it's appropriate and not, like, covering up nefarious or shady shit.
But it does, I do think that probably there's more instances where it's not.
jordan holmes
I'm sure there was 100% a guy and a lawyer who had, like, a really good reason and they worked it out, and then there was another guy who had a...
Shady as shit, lawyer.
And Bobby Barnes, and now we've got NDAs everywhere.
Like, it makes sense to me that that's how it works.
dan friesen
Well, that's a story on your YouTube channel.
Fair enough.
Your deep dive.
jordan holmes
Let's never hope for that, yeah.
dan friesen
So, they do end up, Gerald does end up coming in.
And, I mean, it's mostly just, like, various things that they got in the course of the divorce.
It's really ugly.
It's really fucking ugly.
Because most of it is like Crowder's soon-to-be ex-wife's dad being like, we need to pursue a public strategy that is a negative against Steven.
jordan holmes
Wow, that shouldn't be hard.
dan friesen
Trying to make sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then there's something about like, oh yeah, Jared is clearly working with this whole elaborate plot just because he and Crowder's ex-wife Are friendly.
It's a whole hill of beans.
And it's nothing.
It doesn't amount to anything, but it's so fucking ugly to see this kind of behavior just trot it out.
Because it's obviously damage control.
It's protecting Steven Crowder, the business, and all of this.
And it's...
It doesn't need to be in our space.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Absolutely not.
That's a strong place where it's not supposed to be.
dan friesen
It doesn't need to be on Infowars space.
It doesn't need to be in any...
This is...
jordan holmes
Private!
It's a private thing!
dan friesen
It's...
jordan holmes
I appreciate that we live in a world where you have to have a public strategy.
But that is the wrong world to live in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how you would manage a divorce when the other party is someone like Steven Crowder.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But the idea that you would need a public strategy and shit makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Already, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
If you're in that situation.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But yeah, I don't know.
I found myself very unconvinced.
But I also think that Alex is making a real mistake and opening himself up to possibly being part of a lawsuit against them by people like Jared or Amanda.
unidentified
Love it.
dan friesen
What's her name?
I can't remember his...
Whatever name.
Hillary.
That's Kravder's ex-wife.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Fine.
dan friesen
So there are other bits of information.
Alex said he has a lot of work cut out for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of news.
And here's one of those pieces of news.
alex jones
Well, Israel started bombing Rafa yesterday.
Where they've hurted all the Palestinians down in that area.
And Trump has told Israel's major newspaper it's a big mistake and they are destroying themselves in the eyes of the world.
And that's a friendly thing from Trump.
And, you know, Trump is a smart guy about PR.
And people don't like seeing innocent children with their arms and legs blown off.
And we're now five-plus months into this.
And, yeah, what Hamas did was terrible, and I'm against it.
He said, hunt them down and kill them, but don't.
Level everything.
dan friesen
So, when Trump said that Israel made a mistake, it was that they allowed the world to see what they were doing.
Trump was talking about optics.
Literally, the title of the article Alex is referring to is, quote, Trump to Israel Hayom, only a fool would not have acted like Israel on October 7th.
In the interview, Trump clearly has no problem with Israel's military response, just is worried that people seeing it as bad PR.
He goes on to blame Biden for the attack because, quote, they saw him as weak, ineffective president.
They would have never done that attack if I was there.
He actually mentions that a bunch of times.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Strangely.
jordan holmes
It's about him.
Weird.
dan friesen
The rest of the interview is pretty much just Trump talking about how much he loves Israel and how, quote, they say if I ran for office in Israel, I'd get 98% of the vote.
It's not the way Alex is presenting.
jordan holmes
No, that sounds right.
That sounds right.
Oh, man.
unidentified
Do they ever get buyer's remorse?
jordan holmes
They have to.
dan friesen
Yes, Alex has had it on air a bunch of times, and then it miraculously goes away.
jordan holmes
Yeah, boy, it should have been there.
We should be done with this.
dan friesen
Well, I kind of think that one of the problems is that you can have buyer's remorse.
But at the same time, you're probably going to have a lot more feelings of, I don't have another option.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's that old, like, if you owe a bank $10,000, that's your problem, and if you owe a bank $10 million, that's their problem.
dan friesen
Well, who else are they going to rally behind?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You know, there isn't another option.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Hitler's dead.
Pol Pot, dead.
dan friesen
I still don't think those people would do well against Trump in the modern GOP.
jordan holmes
Okay, how about Berlusconi?
I think Berlusconi's the way to go.
I see he's dead, though, too.
dan friesen
No, because the closest thing, probably, is RFK Jr., and he's completely fucked up.
jordan holmes
He's done.
alex jones
Also, I like RFK Jr. overall.
I think he does a lot of good work.
He's very smart, very talented, very hard worker, and I admired his father and his uncle, but the rest of the family are captive of the Democratic Party, and it looks like he has chosen his running mate, Who is not just in the Soros orbit, Nicole Shanahan, but is a Soros top operative and a super deep stater, and of course formerly married to the head of Google.
So I have to say that I am telling everybody that I absolutely think that overall RFK with this pick is being brought forward to take...
Well, it's from Trump.
dan friesen
Oh, no!
RFK Jr. is a Judas Goat candidate trying to take—he's a spoiler!
jordan holmes
I really thought he had a chance, too.
dan friesen
Yeah, I thought so, too.
jordan holmes
I thought he was going to take this one.
dan friesen
I mean, look, he would have if Trump wasn't running, he was in the GOP, and all he talked about was vaccines being bad.
Then I think he probably would have a shot.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I— Alex shouldn't be allowed to say that he liked any of the Kennedys.
He shouldn't be allowed to say he likes any of the Kennedys, right?
dan friesen
Loves them.
jordan holmes
If you're talking about RFK Jr., shouldn't you have to be like, and his dad was murdered for believing the exact opposite of everything I believe, specifically?
dan friesen
No, because he was murdered because he was going to audit the Fed.
jordan holmes
Right, that's right.
dan friesen
There's plenty of other conspiracies to explain away that.
jordan holmes
It is smart to be dead.
Because then you can be whatever anybody wants you to be.
dan friesen
It's smart for other people for you to be dead.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's the way I should have worded that.
dan friesen
So, we got the eclipse.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And honestly...
Demons?
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But, like, there was a part of me that was already, like, I'm not...
I don't love the idea of this debate with Rabbi Shmuley.
I'm not interested.
Alex is clearly setting this up on an aggressive tone.
It's not going to be...
It's not going to be good.
jordan holmes
It's not a pleasant thing.
dan friesen
And then I got totally drawn off track because Alex is so into this eclipse.
This eclipse is big.
jordan holmes
Great!
I'm excited.
Well, he's in the full-on zone, though.
unidentified
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
That's right.
He's in the complete eclipse zone.
dan friesen
Well, this is...
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You mean geographically?
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're not.
We're like on the edge of the zone.
dan friesen
I thought you meant him emotionally.
He's totally...
jordan holmes
Oh, he's in the danger zone, for sure.
For sure.
dan friesen
Yes, Texas and Austin is in the path of the totality.
jordan holmes
That's cool.
dan friesen
And so this is a big issue, obviously.
And so this becomes quite a preoccupation to the point where...
I told you we go off on a sidetrack.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's because he did a special show about the eclipse.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
The next day.
jordan holmes
No, he did not.
dan friesen
A two and a half hour special, no commercial broadcast.
jordan holmes
I don't need any of this Rabbi Schwule debate.
dan friesen
Of course not.
We've got to learn about the eclipse.
alex jones
Let's put the live show headline up for everyone, please, on screen.
And this says it all about the total solar eclipse.
People have been asking me about this for a month.
There's been massive hype.
I was asked about it in an Academy sporting goods store by five people.
Oh, and by the way, before I get into this, I just want to give them a little report on their attacks on me.
Because I don't say this, again, to brag, I say this because I'm a gauge of I'm totally demonized, totally attacked by the corporate media, and you would think that would hurt somebody.
Almost every person in a packed academy, and I just went in there to buy some exercise clothes, and I'm in there about 20, 30 minutes, and every person, in fact, it was everyone, every person I walked by with my shopping cart shook my hand and was a lister and told me to keep going.
Black, white, Hispanic, old, young.
The lady at the checkout, the other checkout guy, the manager at the front door.
I probably took 50 selfies while I was in there.
I mean, that is devastating.
I've never had that ratio of everyone.
Everyone.
jordan holmes
100%.
alex jones
I mean, I'd be like...
Back behind in the shoe area, looking at some new tennis shoes I got.
Back in a corner.
That place is huge.
And all of a sudden, somebody comes walking by.
Oh, Alex Jones, I love you.
Hey, my wife, get over here.
I mean, it was insane.
So the good news is, if that's a gauge of how awake people are, the new old order is screwed, blued, and tattooed.
dan friesen
I'm not sure that's a gauge of how awake people are.
What about the Eclipse?
jordan holmes
Okay.
Let's start.
Let's real quick.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
We started with...
Five.
dan friesen
Five.
It was five.
jordan holmes
Five people in this Academy store.
dan friesen
Five people.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Because here's where I have to defend Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He was saying five people asked him about the eclipse.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So it could be that everyone told him that he loved it.
They loved him and they wanted him to keep going, but only five of them.
jordan holmes
Only five of those asked him about the eclipse.
Okay, I'll accept that.
dan friesen
See, that's the only way that this works internally consistently.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So I have to push back there.
jordan holmes
I will accept that.
I will also say that, should that even be the case, though, every single second that story went on, he added ten more people to the total of people who came up to him.
Yes, he did.
In the middle of each word, he was like, oh, there's another ten people who are at the checkout lot, you know?
dan friesen
He tells this story multiple times on this episode.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
dan friesen
And it's not the first time I've heard of him getting swamped at an Academy sporting goods store.
jordan holmes
Every time he goes.
dan friesen
I've heard this like at least three times in the past.
jordan holmes
There's one store that all the InfoWarriors go to.
dan friesen
It must be.
jordan holmes
It must be.
dan friesen
It's the...
jordan holmes
It's a gun store.
You can buy guns there, I bet.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about Academy.
jordan holmes
Me neither.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
You can buy guns anywhere.
dan friesen
But, you know, there are those companies that attract niche clientele.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Maybe that is.
Maybe that's the MAGA shoe store.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
No, it wouldn't.
jordan holmes
No, it wouldn't.
dan friesen
So, here's the sitch.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're getting back to the eclipse.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I completely forgot about that.
dan friesen
So did he.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he gets back on track.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Okay, let's put this live show headline back up, please.
So there's your live show headline.
Emergency Wednesday broadcast.
Biden administration using total solar eclipse as cover to run nationwide martial law drill ahead of election.
So everybody's been asking me for a month, and I mean doctors and prominent lawyers, and when I was in a family court thing a month ago.
I had one of the clerks, one of the courts come over and go, hey, Alex, I'm a big listener.
What's going on with the solar eclipse?
And second to that is the red heifer thing.
I got asked about the red heifer three or four times yesterday.
So I can't pump gas without hearing about the solar eclipse or the red heifer.
I know what's going on with the red heifer.
I'm going to do a show on that, or a couple segments on that tomorrow, I promise.
dan friesen
You hip to the red heifer?
jordan holmes
I have no fucking clue what the red heifer is.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Okay, so this is a reference to the Book of Numbers in the Old Testament.
Here's the bottom line.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There is a belief that there is a group of people who plan to ritualistically sacrifice a perfect red heifer, which would be an important part of rebuilding the Third Temple in Jerusalem.
Sure.
So according to CBS News, a group called Uvne Jerusalem has brought in some red cows from Texas who are being kept at a secure location on the West Bank.
The plan that this group has is to perform the ritual to build the temple where the second temple stood, which is currently where the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Asqa mosque sit.
So this naturally has a lot of people on edge about the symbology and the message that's sent by people carrying out this ritual that would, in essence, involve a declaration of we're going to tear down this mosque.
So a lot of people are asking Alex about this probably because there's a fringe of Christianity that's interpreting the sacrifice of the red heifer as bringing about the second coming of Christ.
And so there's a lot of this energy that's going on.
Right, right, right, right.
A lot of attempts to fulfill prophecy.
jordan holmes
One of my favorite tropes.
Of, like, that young adult literature, really any kind of, like, time travel, you know, lost in the past kind of fish-out-of-water stuff, is that kind of, like...
Super smart guy who can wow the uneducated for knowledge of eclipse.
You know, that idea of like, well, we can tell whenever there's because of all that stuff, but these people, they'll take it as some sort of magical event, that kind of thing.
Those are supposed to be in the past, right?
Like, way in the past.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Before they knew about how the sun worked, right?
That is 100% not...
That could happen now.
Like, you could have somebody from now travel in time to now and be like, oh, I knew the eclipse was coming because of demons, and it would work!
dan friesen
Some people would be, like, pretty shocked by it.
Also, I just time-traveled from now.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
unidentified
To when?
dan friesen
Just now.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
Yeah, I do think that there is a dynamic that Alex...
And his community and all of these folks are whipping themselves into a frenzy about the eclipse and the red heifer, quite frankly.
And then they're like, why is everyone talking about this eclipse?
jordan holmes
It's because it's you!
You're doing this!
unidentified
It is cool.
jordan holmes
It is a cool thing.
And if you want to marvel at how the universe works, awesome.
But ultimately, the eclipse is whenever a thing gets in the way of the light.
dan friesen
So when you were talking about people being wowed by someone having foreknowledge of the eclipse, like in the past and such, this is one of the only things that Alex can ever bring up whenever he talks about eclipses.
This exact...
jordan holmes
This exact simptrope.
dan friesen
Except he's not talking...
He's just talking about that Mel Gibson movie Apocalypto.
jordan holmes
Oh, is that a movie that happens?
Yeah.
alex jones
But on the...
Solar eclipse, total solar eclipse.
There are total solar eclipse over different parts of the United States and different parts of the globe happening every year or so on average.
There was just one last year.
And it wasn't total over Texas, but it was total over some of the other states.
It was about a 90%.
And it's really cool.
Because everybody likes to wear special glasses or poke a hole in a box.
Like a shoebox, and then it shoots through, the light does, and then makes an image of the sun that's safe to look at, and you can watch the moon in front of the sun.
And the transit.
dan friesen
Everyone likes that.
jordan holmes
Everybody does!
alex jones
It's cool!
I put some photos I took up on my wife's ex, if you want to go see that.
It's Erica Wolf Jones, or she calls it the wife of the big bad wolf.
And we know in ancient times, the witch doctors, And every culture would tell people, because they would have the math to know when there was an eclipse coming, because they kept records, that, oh, you've angered people that the snake god or the dragon god is going to eat the sun.
And then when the sun disappeared, they would think that the priests were actually in contact with God and would give them more and more power.
So they used superstition to control people.
The Aztecs, all the ancient cultures did it.
So now we see Homeland Security and the National Guard and the State Guard and all these states declaring emergencies over it and all this fear-mongering and be safe when you're out there.
And oh my god, what's gonna happen?
dan friesen
Yeah, like wear those glasses that you were talking about earlier.
So I've noticed that Alex has about three different things he just repeats over and over about eclipses.
One of them is this idea about witch doctors, that every culture used these eclipses to sway the public.
The first point I would make about that is that's not something that Alex is necessarily getting from history.
That's from Apocalypto.
And the second point I would make is that even if these cultures of the past use secret knowledge of coming of eclipses to trick the public, What does that have to do with us now?
The whole trick was that they knew it was coming ahead of time and the public didn't know that they knew.
Now everyone knows about astronomy.
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, apparently that does not matter.
It does not matter how much you know about astronomy because there's a red...
Cow.
Somewhere.
dan friesen
But this is separate.
unidentified
Somewhere.
dan friesen
These are separate.
These are the eclipse and then also the red cow.
jordan holmes
It's all one thing, man.
dan friesen
So no one is talking about the eclipse in any other way than with interest.
It's cool!
Outside of the dumb-dumb conspiracy circles.
Alex is playing directly into that because it's easy and there's no downside.
When there aren't any martial law drills and we get to April 9th, there will be no consequences at all for Alex doing this shit.
Idiots who are drawn to the combativeness of his image will go right along pretending that he has a better batting average than the mainstream media because that's a fun game for them to play.
Also, there aren't total eclipses every year, or at least not ones that are visible in the United States.
It's a really rare thing, and the eclipse that happened last year that Alex keeps bringing up was an annular eclipse where the moon is at a point far away from the Earth when it passes between the Earth and the sun.
It doesn't cover up the whole sun, whereas the eclipse happening this year, it will be total.
It won't be until 2044 that this happens again, and the last time that it did happen, that it was visible in the United States, Yep, we were there.
Everyone had a good time with that.
unidentified
Amazing.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
There's a lot of want my cake and eat it, too, with Alex's coverage of the eclipse, and I find it fascinating.
jordan holmes
Here's what I like, because I was wrong.
I was wrong.
You can't time travel from now to now and pull the same eclipse trick, right?
You have to take it one step further.
And say, aha, people are lying about astronomy.
I know what the eclipse is really about.
That's it.
Same difference, but you have to say it on top of it.
dan friesen
But here's the difficult part.
So you have, on the one hand, Alex being like...
You know, the clips is just moving in front of the sun.
jordan holmes
Homeland security, though.
dan friesen
Right.
There's like the nefarious drills that it's being exploited for, but there's nothing mystical about it.
But then out of the next breath, he's like...
But the globalists of numerology, they can't get enough of this kind of mystical shit.
Maybe there is something magical going on.
jordan holmes
They can't get enough of this mystical shit is my favorite thing.
My imaginary enemies can't get enough of the thing I'm interested in.
Weird.
dan friesen
So it's going to be a martial law drill, apparently.
jordan holmes
Wait, how do you drill martial law?
dan friesen
Practice.
Practice, practice.
jordan holmes
That's how you get to Carnegie martial law.
dan friesen
Yes.
alex jones
They're getting ready to try to bring in martial law with civil unrest around the election or if Trump gets elected when he's president-elect.
They've already said they're going to do it.
The Democrats have war-gamed it.
They're doing it in plain view.
It's insane.
And so all this is is a dress rehearsal, not, oh, let's have a martial law drill with all the local counties, cities, states through the feds.
In a unified command drill, let's not say it's for terrorism or a cyber attack or a nuclear war.
Let's tell them it's because of the eclipse.
Well, no governments in modern times, since we stopped practicing voodoo, have ever acted like this for a solar eclipse.
So people go, what's going to happen?
Are aliens going to invade?
Or what are they going to do during the eclipse?
You might have some crazy people, like when Hale-Bopp came by, that killed themselves because they thought a transgender cult famously killed themselves.
Wearing their Nike track suits and drinking their vodka and taking barbiturates and getting in their beds to send their spirits up to the spaceship they said was following the tail of the comet.
So you might have some weirdo groups kill somebody or kill themselves or do something stupid.
Because every time something gets hyped, the crazies attach themselves to it.
But there is zero reason for all of this, other than the government trying to scare people and create fear, but that's secondary, and promote mumbo-jumbo.
But what it is, because I've got all the articles and all the documents right here, is a martial law drill.
So this is a test of the Obama kill switch, of martial law, of a government takeover.
Okay.
dan friesen
So that's what's going on.
That's what's happening on April 8th.
There's going to be the test of the Obama internet kill switch, and then all the feds are going to be in control of all of the governments down to municipal levels.
It's a test run!
jordan holmes
Okay.
Let me throw this out at you, because I'm trying to follow this logic.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
First things first, we have the eclipse, right?
So the government is going to use the eclipse and people being weird about the eclipse as an excuse to run a martial law drill countrywide through a unified government, correct?
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Right.
And so their justification for that is that perhaps, as Alex points out, there will be some crazies.
dan friesen
No, I don't think that that's even a justification that people are using for any of the stuff that is at the core of what Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, the real world things are like the National Guard.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or, you know, these are traffic-based issues.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're not...
The government is not preparing for, like, cults to carry out giant attacks or something like that.
Like, Alex is predicated on that.
He's not saying that.
jordan holmes
Right.
But here's the problem that I'm having with that, is that if you follow along with Alex, eventually you get to the point where...
Alex is essentially one of those crazies telling you to do something weird on the eclipse because of the day of the eclipse.
Slash, also there's an evil government, but ultimately it's the eclipse.
dan friesen
Yeah, but ultimately nothing's going to happen, so don't do anything.
Just feel weird about it.
And get weird.
jordan holmes
It's just fun!
It should be.
There's just no bad thing about an eclipse.
Other than if you look up at the sun.
dan friesen
Well, that's bad.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
dan friesen
But also...
Martial law is bad.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
Right.
So here's some headlines that Alex was referring to.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And let's see if this makes the case.
unidentified
All right, all right.
alex jones
Here's some headlines.
National Guard will be deployed for total solar eclipse on April 8th.
National Guard, this is Newsweek, be deployed for solar eclipse.
Solar eclipse summit ties state-local plans together.
This is what it's all about.
jordan holmes
Tying state and local plans together.
alex jones
That's what a civil emergency is, is they suspend normal stuff.
This is martial law.
This is taking the gun off safety.
Department of Health, Homeland Security urged safe viewing of April 8th eclipse.
So that's the...
dan friesen
Or wear glasses when you look at the sun.
jordan holmes
You're the one screaming about the government attacking us because of an eclipse!
dan friesen
True.
So the Oklahoma National Guard has been called in to assist with massive crowds that are expected to arrive in the state for the eclipse.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's true, but it also, you know, it's what happens in states where there was a total eclipse in 2017.
It's a huge logistical issue, even if all you consider is the massive influx of traffic.
Even if you just consider traffic control on the highways and shit, you need...
jordan holmes
Wait until they see a really packed Sooners game.
Then the eclipse is going to be nothing compared to that.
dan friesen
So Alex has another headline there, quote, Solar Eclipse Summit ties state-local plans together.
This is from a Texas organization called the Capital Area Council of Governments, and it has to do with a meeting that they had in February about planning to accommodate approximately 720,000 additional people visiting the state, particularly in smaller communities, dealing with issues like how to, "keep traffic moving along smaller highways." Sure.
None of this shit is suspicious unless you want it to be.
Right.
We've seen him play this game a million times, and it always goes the exact same way.
He never is held responsible for the rank nonsense once it all goes down.
jordan holmes
Which sucks because this is just such one of those things where it's like, this is what government is for.
This is what we want government.
If all our government did, fuck everything else.
If all it did was just like, we're going to make sure traffic is nice, that would be amazing.
dan friesen
But let's imagine a scenario where the government didn't do any sort of planning and there was chaos on the highways.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Alex would be like, there was a stand down among the highway patrol.
jordan holmes
We all want them.
To do a good job with traffic.
unidentified
That's it!
dan friesen
But we don't want them to plan anything.
Yes, we do!
No, because if they do, it's a sign that they're trying to bring in martial law.
jordan holmes
Oh, if they plan it good and then they execute it good, it'll be so good.
Everybody will be happy.
That's the idea!
dan friesen
All of these people should just pick up guns and go to the border.
jordan holmes
There was an entire TV show predicated on the idea of one man loving it when a plan comes together.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
True.
They had to drug that guy to get into a helicopter, though.
jordan holmes
They did.
That's true.
dan friesen
So, look, the issue is that all of these people who are trying to do planned logistics for all the giant, enormous crowds that are going to be, you know, they should all just get guns and go to the border.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Yeah, they should just send all the military to the border.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And the government is saying, oh my God, we've got the military on standby.
How about you send the military to the border to actually arrest illegal aliens?
That's the crisis.
How New York state officials are preparing for the solar eclipse, declaring an emergency.
FAA issues warning ahead of April 8th total solar eclipse.
And it goes on and on.
Here's Austin declaring an emergency.
Oh no.
So that's what they're doing.
It's just more get you ready for martial law, just like the lockdowns and all that they now admit are for carbon lockdowns, greenhouse gas lockdowns that they want to roll out.
They've already tested in India where, oh, you can't use your car today.
They're like, I'll still use it.
Oh, really?
We got kill switches and all the new ones now.
That's what the technocracy is really all about.
dan friesen
So that's a bunch of nonsense.
But all these warnings and emergencies that Alex is talking about, they all essentially boil down to traffic management.
The headline that he reads about the FAA warning is them warning travelers that, quote, due to the high volume of traffic along the eclipse path, airport arrivals can expect lengthy delays during peak traffic periods.
Alex is turning all of this logistical preparation into seeming like it's the entire apparatus of government preparing for something major, and it's just a fucking...
It is so dumb.
But here we are.
unidentified
Man, it's so cool, because this would be such a fun...
jordan holmes
I just...
Like, okay.
If you stop and just go, okay, today it's going to be completely dark, like the middle of the night, because a few billion years ago, a rock hit Earth, and then a chunk of Earth started spinning, and then it got in the way of the sun.
That's cool.
That's cool.
That's a very interesting thing.
There is nothing interesting about the National Guard helping people drive.
Nothing.
There's so much interesting about an eclipse.
Like, solar bodies functioning is incredible.
It's cool.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Not the National Guard.
Helping with traffic.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Not interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, but, you know, the sort of educational stuff and, like, actually talking about it, it's not very interesting or profitable for most people.
unidentified
But it is!
dan friesen
But it's not flashy.
jordan holmes
But it's so much fun!
dan friesen
It doesn't create fear.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
And fear is a large motivator of Alex's profit margins.
So, we're gonna go scary on this one, I think.
jordan holmes
What if there's a horror version of the Magic School Bus where they were like, okay, well, we'll teach you about stuff, but...
Mainly out of terror.
We're going to make you terrified of everything, and that's why you know how the esophagus works.
dan friesen
That's what this show is, but take away the learning.
jordan holmes
But take away the learning, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
It's like the magic school bus where you don't learn anything and you're scared of everything.
jordan holmes
And you hate everyone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex has Gerald Crowder's employee on, or I guess his boss, I don't know, to talk about how cool Crowder is and how he's under attack.
And I mean, look, I don't want to play any clips of it, but I would say that Alex should be...
Pretty careful.
I think he could court himself into a lawsuit.
If he's making accusations that Crowder's ex-wife and not gay Jared, Jared Monroe, are engaged in extortion, that kind of thing.
If he's making accusations like that, airing that kind of stuff, I do think that he might accidentally fuck around and end up getting a letter, let's say.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So that goes on.
And then Alex has some other topics.
Like something that eventually leads back to the Royals.
alex jones
I gotta stop there.
Because I've been talking about this since Sunday, but never got to it.
And it's because, how do you do this, Justice?
This is so damn important.
So we're gonna be getting to that.
Here in just a moment.
Now, I just dropped the stack.
It'll be even harder to go through it because I had it all in order.
But this is insane.
Studies admitting that the mRNA accelerates cancer, causes cancer.
Just like Miracle-Gro for cancer.
Glyphosate caused cancer.
Boy, step aside.
Glyphosate.
Hold my beer.
Kate Middleton.
All of it.
Maybe I should do a whole special show, deep dive, just on this, because people love those.
They all get like 5 million views of the special shows.
We're doing one tomorrow, 6 p.m. Central, two hours, commercial free, on the eclipse, and what's really behind that, the big martial law drill, that it really is that nobody seems to figure that out, so I'll explain it.
I don't say that meanly, but that's what it is, 100%.
There's no danger in the eclipse, but the government's declared a civil emergency.
I'm just practicing running all the local governments.
But speaking of commercial-free, I can't do this show without your support.
Plus, we've got great products you need.
unidentified
Bow!
Bow!
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't get deeper into the mRNA study that he has?
No.
jordan holmes
Not, quote, Kate Middleton, comma, you know, all of it.
dan friesen
He said her name.
Right?
jordan holmes
You know, all of it.
dan friesen
All of it.
jordan holmes
Kate Middleton.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he does have this story that I've meant to get to, and I can't do it justice, and he more or less continues to not get to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he does bring up the princess once again.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Cancer is striking more young people, and doctors are alarmed and baffled.
The Wall Street Journal.
Oh, they're baffled.
What is it?
We don't know.
Rising cancer rates of young women highlight how medical systems fall short.
And the growth of cancer is faster in women.
Yeah, because more women took the shot.
Kate Middleton announced, speaking of young women, cancer diagnosis, stomach cancer, as many suspect COVID jab, to blame.
Well, they just told us in the literature it would do it.
dan friesen
Many people suspect that.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Say many more.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So the Wall Street Journal article that Alex is talking about, it is a headline that works for his argument, but the actual data in that article doesn't.
This is about cancer rates in young people rising between 2000 and 2019, a time period entirely prior to the COVID vaccine.
jordan holmes
Prior to the existence of said vaccine.
dan friesen
If anything, actually, this evidence that Alex is presenting is a damning piece of...
Counter evidence to the premise that he's working for.
But it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's prior to all mRNA vaccines.
Not all of them, but publicly...
For people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was before that.
dan friesen
It's a counterexample.
You don't even have to think!
jordan holmes
You don't even have to think!
dan friesen
It doesn't matter, though.
The headline sounds good.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that works.
dan friesen
So, I'm going to play one clip of Rabbi Shmuley when Alex introduces him.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Just to give you a taste of this.
jordan holmes
Just a gauge.
dan friesen
As I was listening to this, and the rest of the hour that they end up talking at each other.
A whole lot of talk about how we have to have equal time.
We have to have equal time.
You talk for three minutes.
There's a whole lot of that.
It's very distracting.
But as I was listening to their interview, I just kept thinking back to how Alex earlier had said, I'm going to do this special show about the eclipse.
I was like, I prefer that.
I want to talk about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's do that.
dan friesen
But here's a little bit of this.
alex jones
I've seen him do talks and events where he's very well-spoken and really scholarly sounding.
And then he kind of, I guess, has a wild comedian side to him, maybe, where he acts like a maniac.
Now, I've done that, too.
I've acted pretty wild on there, too.
But he's here.
He rode a bike, I guess, 45 minutes to the studio.
He just got in his suit, and he's there.
So I appreciate you coming on today.
rabbi shmuley boteach
Thanks for having me, Alex.
alex jones
So, what do you think this debate's about?
rabbi shmuley boteach
Well, first of all, when I say digital decapitation, what I mean is that your arguments against the Jewish people are just so insidious, so unchristian.
Do you think that we Jews are not accustomed to the world hating us?
You think it's because of Hamas and because of the war in Gaza?
Jesus was a Jew, and they crucified him for God's sake.
Aren't you a Christian?
You yourself are a Christian, correct?
alex jones
Yes.
rabbi shmuley boteach
So, did you not forget that Jesus was murdered by...
Did you not forget there was a Holocaust of six million Jews?
There have been people on your show that have actually denied the Holocaust or minimized the numbers.
You've had people like Kanye West who said they love Hitler.
I don't square your Christianity, your love of Jesus, the Bible, the Hebrew Bible with your hatred of the Jewish people.
It really confuses me.
I'm not speaking now about a Jewish boy murdered at Sandy Hook in 2012.
And the 28 others who were murdered that you denied.
And I'm actually impressed that you still have the lights on, given your $1.5 billion judgment against you.
I don't know if you guys are pouring your special powders that you sell, and maybe they energize it, or you've got little hamsters going on wheels in the background.
That's impressive.
I just don't...
I just don't get your hatred of the Jewish people, your lies about Israel since October 7th, like Israel went in to take the oil in Gaza.
There's as much oil in Gaza as there is potency on the fictional powders that you sell.
So what is your hatred about Jews if you're a Christian?
I don't get it.
How could you hate Jesus' people?
alex jones
Okay, so I let you go first, because I didn't know what angle you were going to go with.
First off, that whole Sandy Hook thing was a PR deal.
I barely ever talked about it.
The internet didn't believe it happened.
I covered it a few times.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that kind of gives you a little bit of a sense of how this is going.
unidentified
I gotta go.
jordan holmes
I gotta get out of here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You guys deserve each other.
Stay locked in whatever embrace you care about for as long as you want.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
It did not move the needle for me, I guess.
But the eclipse, pretty exciting.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
So now we jump to Thursday.
jordan holmes
Okay, thank you.
dan friesen
And Alex's special eclipse show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so he starts off by minimizing...
jordan holmes
Dimensions.
Come on, tell me there's more dimensions.
dan friesen
Nah, they happen all the time, man.
These eclipses.
alex jones
It is Thursday, March 28th, 2024.
And coming up in about ten and a half days...
We're going to have what they're calling an incredibly rare total eclipse of the sun, but it's not totally rare.
Yes, it takes hundreds of years for the moon to block the sun on the path it is from southwestern Mexico, right up through central Mexico, through south Texas, through east Texas, and then over through the Midwest and into New York, up into Maine, and then out of the Atlantic Ocean.
This is...
Something that happens all the time.
Just last year, what, six months ago, there was a 90% eclipse of the sun in Austin.
In fact, it was basically a full corona where you could see just the edge of the sun around the moon.
It was amazing.
I took photos of it.
We showed it on air.
And if I'd have just driven, they said 300 miles north, I would have seen the total eclipse.
But instead, suddenly, we are hearing...
And then the feds have declared an emergency, the states are declaring emergencies, the National Guard, the State Guard, the threat fusion centers, Homeland Security say, "Watch out!
Emergency alerts!" This is just deadly!
Something horrible is gonna happen!
Well, we're here at a war game tonight with a whole raft of amazing individuals that said they'll join the space.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, look, so here's the situation.
Everybody is, the man and the globalists are, they're saying this is going to be so severe, so what we need to do is get a bunch of shitheads on Twitter together and really just talk some shit about this.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Just war game this.
jordan holmes
Okay, we're not in the totality, right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
But we're in a lot of it.
We're going to see a lot of the sun not there.
dan friesen
I didn't see the full path.
I mean, I did see the map, but I don't remember exactly.
jordan holmes
We're not going to see all of the sun for a tick.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right?
I have not received any warnings of terrible things happening.
Did you know that there's supposed to be...
Is Chicago under nuclear threat because of this?
dan friesen
Well, Alex does like to say that Chicago's going to be nuked.
I've not heard it in this case.
jordan holmes
So in this Twitter space, we are not going to be nuked?
dan friesen
No.
I think that most of the world is not experiencing this eclipse the same way that Alex and his audience are.
jordan holmes
It does feel very specific.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think I hear anybody in Nevada being like, the National Guard is coming for martial law!
dan friesen
No, they're screaming about it, and then they're like, why is everyone screaming about this?
jordan holmes
Why won't everybody just stop pretending like this is such a big deal?
You're the one!
unidentified
It's you!
dan friesen
But it's not just them.
It's also a random person that Alex found on Twitter who has some concerns.
Watch out.
alex jones
This is kind of indicative in a one-minute clip.
I'm just a gentleman online.
Pointing out all this craziness and saying, what's coming?
I don't think it's because something's coming that aliens are going to invade or there's going to be a cyber attack.
Somebody might use it to do that at that point.
Some cult might commit suicide.
There might be a terror attack.
There's all the hype.
But largely, it's about an excuse like, oh, we're not having a martial law drill for the election.
We're not having a martial law civil insurrection drill for war with Russia or financial collapse.
We're having it for the eclipse.
And so I see this as a dress rehearsal cover.
We'll get Chase Geyser's take.
On that in a moment, he'll tell us about all the amazing folks that are coming up here, and we'll just try to go through them as quick as we can.
Also, the guy that sounds just like Elon Musk, but it's not him.
I want to actually meet him in person.
chase geiser
Adrian Dittman.
alex jones
Adrian Dittman's going to be on.
jordan holmes
Looks like we've got confirmation.
alex jones
But let's play this short clip of just a fellow on Twitter, basically saying what everybody else is saying.
unidentified
A fellow.
alex jones
Or ex.
dan friesen
Gentlemen.
unidentified
Have y 'all seen this?
What is up with this eclipse that's coming up?
You know, schools are canceling.
jordan holmes
Turn this off.
Turn it off.
unidentified
Schedule errands and appointments early.
Have a communication plan with family and friends.
Have cash on hand in case of limited internet access.
Buy necessary groceries and gas.
Expect heavy traffic.
dan friesen
Why?
unidentified
I mean, we've been through many solar eclipses and it's never been a big deal.
I mean, schools usually use this as a learning experience.
We build the little glasses, we go outside, play for a little while, and then we stare at the sun, you know, because they always told you don't look at the eclipse without your glasses on.
But I don't know, could this be part of the reason why the millionaires and billionaires are building their big bunkers?
I don't know, but I just find this really odd that they're canceling schools and putting out eclipse tips for something that we have experienced multiple times in our lifetime.
But I just want to make you all aware of this.
As usual, let me know what you think about in the comments.
Like, follow, share, and have a great day.
alex jones
That's a good summation.
jordan holmes
Is it?
alex jones
Could it be used for the cover for something else?
Maybe.
But I just see it as another excuse for tyranny.
We're already getting loaded up with the speakers.
dan friesen
Another excuse for tyranny.
All those concerns that that guy brings up are mostly sort of traffic and busyness based.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, like, do your chores before...
There might be terrible traffic and you might not be able to get through.
The only one that I'm a little confused about exactly is maybe diminished internet access, but that could be like...
jordan holmes
The sun's blocked off some...
Who knows?
dan friesen
Or large groups of people could take up the data on phone towers or whatever.
You know, like how you couldn't get a signal on January 6th or something like that.
Large gatherings, it's more difficult to use your mobile.
Right.
All of that stuff is not that...
And, you know what?
I think it's great if schools want to give kids off so they can enjoy the eclipse with their family.
And, how widespread is that?
Are all schools canceled?
This guy.
This fucking guy.
But he's a gentleman, and Alex found it on Twitter, and he thinks it's a very succinct explanation of something.
jordan holmes
I don't...
Okay, so like, if you just take the words individually, and the way...
and what he said, I don't think there's anything particularly...
Wrong.
And even then, yeah, I could buy it if you think this is an overreaction.
I understand if you're like, I never got this list of buy groceries.
I've never heard of that.
You probably ignored it.
Exactly.
dan friesen
You probably did.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
I bet that the government always gives out Eclipse tips.
jordan holmes
But I'll tell you this.
There are some accents that you just can't pull it off with.
dan friesen
That's prejudice on your part.
jordan holmes
It's unfortunate.
It's not, like, it's not...
What would I say?
It's just the way that that sounds, that twang on the end of billionaires.
You know, that billionaire.
dan friesen
They're going down to their bunkers, though.
Probably because of the eclipse.
jordan holmes
I'm all reasonable with you, but you gotta tail that off.
dan friesen
The millionaires and billionaires are going down to their bunkers because of the eclipse.
And you know that because people are telling you to do your chores and errands ahead of time.
jordan holmes
Okay, so like a newsman, the millionaires and billionaires have gone down to their bunkers.
That's terrifying.
That makes me scared.
The millionaires and billionaires are going down to their bunkers.
Aha!
I am unconcerned.
dan friesen
Again?
jordan holmes
I am unconcerned, sir.
dan friesen
Prejudice.
jordan holmes
I understand maybe that is prejudice.
dan friesen
We're burying the lead, though.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is if fake Elon Musk is coming back.
jordan holmes
That's right.
I forgot about that.
Why are we doing this?
dan friesen
What are we doing?
Here's the situation.
Chase Geyser, he does bring up that this is a planned spaces.
So, like, the other ones are a little bit more impromptu.
You know, you get callers and stuff through just going on to spaces, whereas this one is planned in advance.
So they invited some people.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And fake Elon Musk, Adrian Dittman, was somebody that they invited.
jordan holmes
So, knowing full well now that he is not at all Elon Musk.
dan friesen
I'm not convinced that Alex actually is sincere when he says this isn't Elon Musk.
I think Alex still kind of thinks it is.
jordan holmes
It's the only reason that makes sense for inviting him.
Because if he shows up, whatever.
You can't, like, keep him away.
But if you invited him on purpose, it's either to say, you're not Elon Musk, or because you secretly think he is still on Elon Musk.
dan friesen
Or, and I don't think that this is the case.
It's a fantastic running bit.
jordan holmes
It would be pretty funny.
dan friesen
Where they pretend that this person is...
Who is this guy outside of the guy who sounds like Elon Musk who keeps going on Infowars?
jordan holmes
If they did that to a person...
It would be just us.
dan friesen
It would be fucking with us.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it would be fucking with him.
Unless he's in on it.
Like, if they knew, like, hey, this guy's not Elon Musk, but then just decided, let's make him Elon Musk for the purposes of our show, that's a real cruel thing to do to somebody.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's not entirely outside of the scope of things they have done in the past.
I mean, like, they turned Zack into Q. Yeah, that's right.
When there is a need to create a character, it's not something that InfoWars is above.
jordan holmes
No, they can do that.
dan friesen
But there is definitely an insistence that this isn't Elon Musk.
Alex says it a number of times.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But at the same time is very heavily trying to imply that it probably is.
He keeps saying, like, you're not him.
I get it.
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, that's going to be coming up.
jordan holmes
Cut the act, you pretending like you are him pretending to not be him.
I'm sick of that.
Pretend to not be him or pretend to be him.
dan friesen
It's a double bluff.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit.
dan friesen
So Chase Geiser comes in and speaks to how he thinks the science is cool with eclipses.
jordan holmes
Okay, I agree.
chase geiser
You know, from a science perspective, it's awesome.
It's exciting.
I'm going to try to take a look at it.
I get that it's a fun, cool thing, but it doesn't make sense to me why there are all these calls for martial law.
Just because everybody's going to be looking at the sun at the same time, Alex.
dan friesen
There aren't.
alex jones
Well, remember over in Australia and in New Zealand, remember the different prime ministers over there and presidents said, don't look at the sunset.
Don't talk to your neighbors.
So they also get scared.
The globalists do when we have any communal event they don't control because we're looking at the sun that God made that is the source of our life.
And the source of the climate.
And we're not looking at a TV.
We're not looking at an NFL game.
So they're also hijacking it not just for a federalization command and control drill over all the different counties and cities, which they admit they're using it for.
It's also because they want to inject themselves like at every Christmas or any other holiday with some big story.
So they want to dominate our psyche.
chase geiser
Absolutely.
alex jones
Oh, the government's here to hold your hand during this.
dan friesen
I thought there was a war on Christmas.
So one Australian politician, a guy named Daniel Andrews, said that gathering to watch the sunset was not, quote, in the spirit or in the letter of the rules for the COVID measures that were in effect in August 2021.
chase geiser
Right.
dan friesen
Australia did not say they don't want you looking at the sun.
Don't look at the sun.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It's stupid shit, as is the entire premise for this special show.
When Alex is trying to do is whip up excitement by pretending that the other side is having a really severe response and are going...
In reality, people aren't freaking out about the eclipse, but there are some local and state governments who understand that there are logistical preparations they need to undertake to safely accommodate the influx of visitors that will be coming.
By strategically misrepresenting these kinds of actions, Alex is able to embellish the scenario out into being some kind of giant plot and then position himself as some kind of weird voice of reason.
In that clip, Alex says that they admit they're using the Eclipse for a, quote, federalization command and control drill over all the different conditions.
counties and cities, which I would say he needs to prove in any way.
Maybe.
unidentified
He gets away with this shit on a daily basis.
dan friesen
This kind of nonsense.
The audience just pretends he has a basis for these claims and then moves along and then there's never an accounting for like...
What were you talking about after the fact?
It's constant.
jordan holmes
This has made me appreciate something.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
So, Alex, shitting on football games, sporting events, etc.?
Yeah.
Combine this with Chase's interest in science, and let's recall that we've invented games.
We've then created stadiums, built entire massive structures to hold them in.
We've created technology that allows us to videotape something, send it into space, and then send it back to your fucking house.
Right?
And Alex is like, ah, they want to control that.
You should go look at the sun.
dan friesen
You know, um...
Basketball will be impossible to play during the eclipse.
jordan holmes
Is that true?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That'd be great.
dan friesen
So we get to the spaces people.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And here's the first.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And this was like a, oh boy.
chase geiser
Why don't we start right out of the gate with Ryan Garcia.
Ryan, go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say if you're still there.
unidentified
No, you know, I'm just here.
I've been following Alex's stuff for a while.
Always been intrigued by what he's saying.
So, you know, I obviously do my own spaces, so I'm not here to, you know, try to really input too much.
I'm here to listen.
But I do understand that April 8th is a monumental day for a lot of people, and I agree with Alex.
It is quite strange that the government is tripping out on this day, and there's a lot of solar eclipse.
But what we do know is that this solar eclipse, if you target it on the map, There's clear signs that this is a sign from God for people to repent of their sins.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Clear signs.
dan friesen
From looking at the direction on the map.
jordan holmes
From looking at the direction on the map.
Clear signs that this is when you need to repent for your sins.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Ryan Garcia is a professional fighter.
jordan holmes
Oh, that makes sense.
dan friesen
And he has recently come up in Infowars territory because he went on Twitter and...
I had a bit of a breakdown about how he was at Bohemian Grove, and he got held down and forced to watch children be abused.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
And Alex said that he watched the entire thing and said this guy is going through a mental breakdown.
Yeah.
So he calls in, and he's the first person on, says this about the eclipse.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then Alex proceeds to ask him about Bohemian Grove, gets no answers, and then also does not say, hey, I think you need help.
He's like, hey, that's very interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And sort of enables the very things that he was saying was a person having a breakdown before, which is...
On brand.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, you just shouldn't have him on.
If that's your...
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
It's not your place either to have him on and then say you need help.
Sure.
That's fucked up.
You shouldn't have him.
dan friesen
But it's also, I think, probably not in anyone's best interest for you to have the...
If he was just to say this thing about, like, the path of the eclipse is clearly saying everyone needs to repent.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, okay, fine.
We'll move along.
jordan holmes
You're not the first.
dan friesen
But then to...
Drag it out and be like, hey, what about those things you were saying about Bohemian Grove?
I think that's a little irresponsible if you have the position that you have publicly said previously, which Alex did.
I'm not gonna...
Dwell on any of this.
unidentified
Good stuff.
dan friesen
Move along.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Jack Posobiec comes on.
unidentified
God damn it.
dan friesen
Says a bunch of dumb shit.
jordan holmes
I imagine so.
dan friesen
And then Jay Dyer and one of Alex's fourth hour hosts.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
This guy's got a brand.
jordan holmes
All right.
Is his brand Eclipse Knowledge?
dan friesen
No.
His brand is that he reads things.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Now, I deeply distrust this brand even for people who are not on it.
dan friesen
His brand is that he reads the globalist documents.
jordan holmes
I deeply distrust this brand even more.
dan friesen
Now, it's interesting.
Because Alex needs to build this brand up while introducing him and accidentally says something about himself.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
All right.
We got a lot of people on Spaces, so we'll intersperse this, but I want to bring an amazing researcher on the esoteric from their own documents.
And I've read a lot of globalist books, but I'll be honest.
I got exhausted about 10 years ago.
I probably read, let's not exaggerate, 300 books written, probably 400 by the globalists.
I probably read 300 books against the globalists that were super accurate.
From all the great Patriots from Anthony Sutton to you name it.
And I've read some of their new ones, but I kind of cheat and get the syllabus or get the back, and I kind of flip around and read the quotes to make sure what I read in the news was accurate.
This guy constantly goes off what they said 100 years ago, what they said 50 years ago, what they said today.
dan friesen
This guy reads stuff, and I'll be honest, in the last 10 years, I haven't really read that shit.
jordan holmes
Let's face it.
I am phoning it in.
Just want to throw this out there at you.
I could be doing work.
dan friesen
I used to read a lot of John Birch Society bullshit, but I don't anymore because I don't need to.
I could just look at memes.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I look at the back of books.
dan friesen
Now, here's what's fun about this.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
If you take this into consideration, I would suggest that this means...
Alex has not read anything by Klaus Schwab.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Not read anything by Yuval Noah Harari.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Which he's written two books about!
jordan holmes
Yes, that is true.
That is possible that he has written two books about books he has not read.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I would suggest that based on my sort of engagement with a lot of the other stuff that Alex has talked about, I don't think he read those things to begin with.
jordan holmes
I would strongly doubt it.
dan friesen
I found some strong deficiencies in his context understanding of various things like Bertrand Russell and eco-science by John P. Holdren and what have you.
So I do think that maybe this 10 years is not a glitch.
Maybe it goes back further.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that.
I do appreciate the weird sense of honesty from which this comes.
It's almost like, listen.
unidentified
I've told you all a lot of untrue things.
jordan holmes
But I'm going to be honest with you now.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
How is it that you can say that reasonably?
dan friesen
But I do know what I'm talking about because I've read the back of books and I've skimmed memes.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you something.
I am a deep thinker, an iconoclast, somebody who only thinks the way that only I could.
I do judge books by their cover.
dan friesen
Now, I don't think Alex would ever say something like this unprompted.
It is just because Jay Dyer's brand is supposed to be the guy who does this stuff.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That Alex is like, not even I read all the...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's such a strange way of trying to build up his brand by destroying the premise of Alex's existence.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is like when I was emceeing doing comedy shows.
It's like, hey.
Get a laugh.
Introduce the next guy.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter what you have to say.
Just make sure that they come off sounding good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then go.
dan friesen
Bring in Jay Dyer.
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't really care about Jay Dyer.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Nope.
Not one bit.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
But I do care about fake Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Unfortunately, that is how life has turned out for us.
Yep.
dan friesen
So here is where Adrian Dittman enters the proceedings.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We have Adrian Dittman on, who is not Elon Musk, but sounds just like him.
And I want to meet Adrian Dittman someday.
So, Adrian Dittman, we know you're very busy.
We appreciate you joining us.
Tell us about where we find you on X and give us your take on the solar eclipse and why government's freaking out about it when it seems like a routine thing to me.
dan friesen
Hey, guys.
What's up?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a little bit of a funny thing.
jordan holmes
Everybody's always freaked out about...
adrian dittman
If anything odd happens, it's always something that elicits an emotional response.
I don't really think there's anything to be freaked out about, about the lunar eclipse.
unidentified
It's a...
alex jones
Well, take your time, explain it.
Why should we be freaked out?
unidentified
I don't know why we're freaked out.
dan friesen
It's because of Alex.
jordan holmes
It's because of people like Alex screaming about how the government is going to attack people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There's no other reason!
That's why.
Otherwise, people would just be like, oh, it's pretty interesting.
I'll make these glasses for my kids.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because here's the problem.
No one is telling me that there are demons.
Nobody's telling me about multiple dimensions.
Nobody's telling me things about the eclipse specifically.
Eclipsing.
That could cause supernatural or just regular natural events that cause problems.
It is only that because quote unquote some people think this might be the case.
But nope.
dan friesen
It's mostly just traffic and logistics concerns being misrepresented in order to create sensation because it drives interest and makes five people ask Alex about shit at the shoe store.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
It is just one of those, like, it doesn't have to be everything.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
It doesn't have to be everything.
dan friesen
But it does.
jordan holmes
We could just have an eclipse.
dan friesen
Right, but to not do this is leaving money on the table for people like Alex and the folks in this sort of space.
You're not going to not do this.
What's the opportunity cost?
jordan holmes
I want an accountant to get involved in this and really itemize whether or not they could let the eclipse go.
dan friesen
They could.
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
They could let it go.
I would like it if they did.
jordan holmes
I would like it.
dan friesen
But, I mean, we only have another, you know, nine days or whatever until we move on to something else.
Yeah.
So, I do notice, as this call goes on, that Alex is trying to imply that this is Elon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
For sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
And then, Adrian, are you going to be in Texas to be able to watch the eclipse on the 8th of April?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I'll be very busy on those days.
unidentified
I have a lot of things in real life to take care of.
I was planning to, but I don't think I will be able to attend.
adrian dittman
Again, I don't think it'll be anywhere near the point of totality, but again, I'll be here kind of like watching it as an observer, but I don't think I'll be there in Texas, unfortunately.
jordan holmes
The implication of the Texas is, you know, Elon lives in Texas, so either he's going to be in Texas where he normally is, or he's going to be flying somewhere special because he's a billionaire.
dan friesen
So they lose their connection to spaces.
It goes down.
The Spaces is still going.
jordan holmes
Because it's such a great platform that's run by such a brilliant man?
dan friesen
Not actually the problem of Spaces.
It's Alex's connection to it.
The meeting still goes on, apparently.
But it's no longer on the show.
And so Alex kind of loses interest in doing the show.
And he ends up going to a special report.
chase geiser
Give me a minute here, Alex.
alex jones
Alright, no big deal.
Well, at least people are getting to listen to Adrian Dittman.
chase geiser
Okay.
I'll be right back, Alex.
alex jones
All right.
So we are waiting to get our connection back, but we're simulcasting at infowars.com forward slash show and man.video.
But yeah, it's just fascinating what's going on.
We have all these new technologies integrating together.
We're testing them out.
But the good part about it is, I remember first doing Skype 15 years ago, it messed up half the time.
Now it messes up like once every 100 days.
So it just gets better and better.
I love integrating Spaces with everything else we're doing here.
So as soon as Chase can get his phone wired back in, we'll get Adrian Dittman back up, who may still be talking.
I don't know that.
Good.
Glad he's talking, because we're here.
So it's kind of like we were InfoWars and Spaces on X is one, and now it's two different things.
It's great.
So for people listening on X...
Still hearing Adrian Dittman, but when I come back, I want to know what he was talking about, so I'll just have to say, well, very interesting.
But...
Yeah, roll the human supremacy clip.
dan friesen
Just go to a social report.
jordan holmes
I have lost all momentum.
Just get me out of here.
dan friesen
I've lost interest in my own show because I know that the guy who sounds like Elon Musk is talking on Spaces and I can't be a part of it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
What's happening?
What in God's name?
unidentified
It's...
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
There are some very clear indications that Alex, despite saying this is not Elon Musk, very much kind of still thinks he's treating him so differently than other people.
jordan holmes
I mean, really.
dan friesen
Either that or Adrian Dittman is independently wealthy and funneling money to Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because the behavior is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Unacceptable.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Either it is Elon Musk or it is not, and I refuse to live in this liminal space where we don't know.
dan friesen
But that's kind of why I keep doing this to you.
jordan holmes
Oh, I hate it.
I fucking hate it.
I hate it so much because he's not.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So that means that this is just some fucking guy, and now I have to stop and think about what it takes for some fucking guy to be this guy.
And I don't want to get into that headspace.
That's dark thinking, Dan.
Dark thinking.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, outside of behaving the way he does and speaking the way he does, he does everything possible to make it not appear that he's Elon Musk by saying, I'm not Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it's not really his fault.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Although he is playing into it.
jordan holmes
What?
What makes you say that going repeatedly on Infowars to pretend to be angry that people think you're Elon Musk, not at all absorbing the adoration like a fucking parapsychopath fucking monster?
dan friesen
Well, and I think at a certain point, if you're him, you have to start to notice the way that Alex is treating you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you have to start to ask yourself, he says that I'm not Elon Musk, but he must think so.
Because listen to this.
alex jones
I'm told Adrian Dittman's still there.
I wasn't able to hear something a little bit on my phone while we were trying to fix things here.
For whatever reason, our connection died, but we're back.
It's very redundant.
Adrian Dittman, I really appreciate you being on with us and all the other speakers.
Adrian, if you'd like to lead some of the spaces and tell us who we should take live, we can do that.
Or if you'd like to leave us, it's up to you.
unidentified
I'll just hang around, whatever is required.
alex jones
Okay, sounds good.
unidentified
At this moment, I'm basically just telling.
jordan holmes
We're having the technical difficulties there.
dan friesen
We're just having a bit of a back and forth here.
unidentified
It's real nice.
I'm just telling at the moment.
alex jones
Well, that's amazing.
jordan holmes
Alex, sorry to interrupt.
liz churchill
Did you hear a word I said or was that completely offline as well?
jordan holmes
Who the fuck is that?
What just happened?
dan friesen
It's another person on Twitter.
jordan holmes
The answer is no.
I did not hear a word you said.
dan friesen
Yeah, it did go on the show either.
So yeah, apparently...
Alex is like, hey, Adrian Dittman, why don't you choose who gets to speak?
Why don't you basically just take over the show?
He's really deferential.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just make him Elon Musk.
He doesn't need to actually be Elon Musk.
Just say he is.
It doesn't matter.
Dare the real Elon Musk to stop you.
dan friesen
It would be difficult.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What's he going to do?
Sue you?
dan friesen
This goes on for a long time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I believe it.
I believe that strongly.
dan friesen
About an hour plus of this two hour special show about the eclipse.
jordan holmes
It's about the eclipse, Dan.
dan friesen
It's just him talking to fake Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
And I would say a shocking amount of that time is about how great Elon Musk is.
jordan holmes
I don't believe this is reality.
dan friesen
You and fake Elon Musk are in agreement.
unidentified
He believes it's a simulation.
jordan holmes
Here's what I think is happening.
I think I am dying in a coma situation.
I'm clearly hooked up to a bunch of things.
This is what my brain is making sense of.
I don't know what real-life corollary there could be to...
Adrian Dittman somehow being a billionaire, but also not being a billionaire, but maybe owning Twitter, but also not doing that.
I don't know what the real world version of that is, but I must be dying.
That has to be the truth.
dan friesen
Well, we'll find out on the eclipse.
jordan holmes
Okay.
It's only the time I get to see my real body.
dan friesen
We have one last clip here.
I think it's just indicative of...
Alex, this is the longest fucking impossible question to answer.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There's no way you can really...
I feel like there's no way you can hear the interview in clips like this and not think, like, Alex fucking thinks this is Elon Musk.
alex jones
All I see is two different paths.
We have plan A that's get rid of the humans and we're all garbage and we're going to transhuman all this or have a pro-human future that's a mix of everything through free will, but we've got to go interplanetary.
We've got to go interstellar.
We've got to have goals.
So instead of building...
Big worthless pyramids that gave us a work project, so it did something.
We need giant space programs.
We need giant undersea programs.
We need absolutely to energize humanity, to believe in ourselves, to be pro-human, to build a world that's pro-human.
Team Humanity, that I talked about with Elon months ago on air.
Can you speak, Adrian Dittman, to your view of Team Humanity?
And if you were talking to Elon Musk and advising him, and I totally support his space exploration, all the great things he's doing, about trying to sell the public.
On realizing this is their destiny to believe in something bigger because we've got to have a plan B that becomes plan A. We've got to get energized with public works and corporate works projects and get excited about goals.
And if we don't have goals to go to Mars...
And if we don't have goals to build moon bases, and if we don't have goals to build Antarctic bases and undersea bases, and if we don't celebrate them as the real rock stars, nothing against basketball players or football players or Leonardo DiCaprio, but that's old.
That doesn't do anything.
That's entertainment.
We need to celebrate the explorers again.
And we need to get back into the trailblazing again.
And that's why I love Elon Musk, because he's doing that.
Say what you want.
He is a maverick.
So can you speak to the maverick spirit and why we need to rediscover it?
I believe you survive or is that wrong?
And we got the big pregnant pause.
Probably more technical stuff.
But it is super fun.
jordan holmes
Technical stuff.
unidentified
I'm dying.
alex jones
Well, it might have been me.
Go ahead.
You probably had it on mute, but go ahead.
Go ahead.
I'm glad you're here.
You heard my big question.
Please go ahead.
adrian dittman
Yeah, I mean, to go back on the advising of things, I don't think I can really advise anyone on anything in that regard, but I can definitely offer commentary.
unidentified
I mean, look at me.
I'm just a space man with a big-ass account, and who happens to sound like Elon?
Look at the PFP.
jordan holmes
There you go.
alex jones
And just so happens to think like him and everything else.
We get it.
Yeah, we get it.
dan friesen
It's just ridiculous.
jordan holmes
I am so angry.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This, like...
dan friesen
Pretty frustrating.
jordan holmes
This does seem inevitable, though.
In a sense, like, all that we've ever talked about with defakes, all of that stuff, everybody was concerned, I think, early on about how it would take what real people say and then give them falsities, right?
People didn't ever think, like...
Oh, we'll just decide someone's that person now, and there's no way that anybody can ever deny it.
dan friesen
But I mean, there's also...
Well, I think some people have thought about that in terms of a sort of offshoot implication of...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
I have no reason to believe necessarily that this is even a deepfake.
jordan holmes
Right.
No.
dan friesen
Or any technology involved here.
There doesn't have to be.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no.
Absolutely not.
Because reality's been defeated.
It's been defeated by maybe if enough people just call this person kind of Elon Musk, we'll all just behave like he is.
It's heartbreaking.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
It's heartbreaking.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
We will not behave like he is.
jordan holmes
Clearly we are!
dan friesen
Alex is.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Well, all of Alex's fans are.
dan friesen
Not necessarily.
jordan holmes
And we have to listen to this as if it was a person who isn't just an asshole.
dan friesen
We do not know if Alex's audience actually believes the same thing that Alex is clearly putting forth.
jordan holmes
He's putting it so hard, though.
dan friesen
It is.
It is.
Yep.
jordan holmes
I just hate it so much.
My grasp on reality is so tenuous at best all the time.
And then to have somebody just do this to me.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's brutal.
It's an assault.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's rude.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's rude!
dan friesen
Even more rude is you sit there through this, like...
What ends up being about two hours and twenty minutes.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
And you start to realize at about like two hours in, it's like, I don't talk much about that eclipse.
jordan holmes
I can't.
dan friesen
This whole thing was a special two hour stream.
It was supposed to be getting to the bottom of the eclipse.
unidentified
And I don't know if we did.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I wish.
You know what?
Yeah.
I think aliens need to invade on the eclipse day.
That would just be fun for me.
Because fuck it.
Why not?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Ship opens.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Adrian Dittman.
jordan holmes
Complete coincidence.
Adrian Dittman is an alien.
Wrap it all up, narrative circle.
Let's go home.
dan friesen
Boom.
jordan holmes
Let's be out of here.
Let's go home.
That's the end of this.
dan friesen
So ultimately, I think a lesson is supposed to be that everything is kind of disappointing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does seem like a good lesson to learn.
dan friesen
And that is, I guess, where...
jordan holmes
Where we leave things.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Blue Sky.
jordan holmes
We are on Blue Sky.
It's knowledgefight!
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXGark.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, boop.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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