Knowledge Fight - #903: April 7, 2004
Aired: 2024-02-26
Duration: 02:09:29


=== 1st March Bright Spot (05:38) ===

[00:00:00]  knowledge fight damn and jordan i am sweating knowledgefight.com it's time to pray i have great respect for knowledge fight knowledge fight i'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight
[00:00:30]  dan and jordan knowledge fight i need i need money andy and kansas andy andy andy andy andy andy it's time to pray andy andy and kansas you're on the air thanks for holding us hello alex i'm a first time calling in the future Hey, everybody!
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  Jordan!
[00:01:02]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:06]  Oh, indeed we are.
[00:01:07]  Deon.
[00:01:08]  Jordan!
[00:01:08]  I have a quick question for you.
[00:01:10]  What's up?
[00:01:11]  What's your bright spot today, buddy?
[00:01:12]  My bright spot today, Jordan, is this is a little bit overdue, and a little bit...
[00:01:16]  I'd meant to do this sooner, but things have gotten in the way.
[00:01:20]  A while back, I started a sub-stack.
[00:01:22]  Yes!
[00:01:23]  Stackies.substack.com.
[00:01:25]  Yes.
[00:01:25]  And I put out two posts on it and then had a little bit of a hurdle, a little medical condition that limited my ability to expand into other side projects and such.
[00:01:37]  And then also I had a very terrible situation.
[00:01:41]  So that sub stack is largely taking Alex's emails and stuff and discussing editorial decisions and things that you can learn from them.
[00:01:49]  I had been going over all of these thousands and thousands of emails and making notes on them and stuff, and then my computer crashed and I lost that document.
[00:01:58]  Oh my god.
[00:01:58]  So I had to start pretty much all over going through these emails.
[00:02:02]  You're not telling the truth.
[00:02:04]  That can't be real.
[00:02:05]  It is, unfortunately.
[00:02:06]  So there had been a bit of a setback.
[00:02:07]  And I've been meaning to get back to it because I don't want this to be...
[00:02:10]  Just yet another thing that I set out and embarked to do, and then, oh, wow, you know, this is another mustard.
[00:02:16]  This is another year of the mustard.
[00:02:17]  I mean, you're, well, you know, you don't set easily achievable goals.
[00:02:23]  Let's put it that way.
[00:02:24]  I may want to do more than I can.
[00:02:27]  Sure, sure.
[00:02:28]  But there will be new posts.
[00:02:30]  I'm not sure exactly how, like, the periodicalness of it.
[00:02:34]  I don't know the rate.
[00:02:36]  But March 1st.
[00:02:37]  March 1st.
[00:02:38]  March 1st there will be a new post on there.
[00:02:40]  Absolutely.
[00:02:40]  So that's exciting, the stackies.
[00:02:42]  That is exciting.
[00:02:43]  But yeah, we'll see.
[00:02:44]  We'll see how consistent it is.
[00:02:46]  But there will at least be a few more posts on there.
[00:02:48]  It's tough.
[00:02:48]  It's tough.
[00:02:49]  Yeah.
[00:02:50]  It's tough.
[00:02:50]  And then also trying to figure out, like, all right, I only have a limited number of source materials here.
[00:02:57]  Sure, sure.
[00:02:57]  What could it be other than that?
[00:02:59]  So I'm trying to figure out other things that could go on that sub stack.
[00:03:02]  Yeah.
[00:03:03]  But yeah, it's there.
[00:03:04]  I mean, I assume it's not just going to eventually devolve into opining about different backpacks you've seen on the subway.
[00:03:11]  You don't know.
[00:03:12]  And whether or not they are okay.
[00:03:14]  We all have a path to go down, and maybe that's the one I will.
[00:03:16]  I think grumpy old commentator seems great for you.
[00:03:20]  Sure.
[00:03:21]  I think that would be great.
[00:03:22]  Or episode by episode breakdown of some show.
[00:03:24]  Yeah!
[00:03:25]  Maybe I'll do Lost.
[00:03:26]  That'd be great.
[00:03:27]  Survivor.
[00:03:27]  Totally.
[00:03:28]  Something like that.
[00:03:28]  No reason not to.
[00:03:29]  Yeah.
[00:03:30]  Yeah, you don't have to be a grumpy Gus all the time.
[00:03:32]  You can get into the good stuff.
[00:03:33]  Get into the fun.
[00:03:34]  Oh, no, no, no.
[00:03:34]  Be very grumpy about those shows.
[00:03:36]  Yeah, I know.
[00:03:37]  It's true.
[00:03:38]  He would be very grumpy.
[00:03:38]  So what's your bright spot?
[00:03:39]  My bright spot is, I suppose I'll just go ahead and say, the weather is nice outside.
[00:03:46]  It was snowing yesterday or the day before.
[00:03:48]  It was snowing yesterday night.
[00:03:50]  And now it's almost 60. 25 degrees at 5am when I had to take the dogs out this morning.
[00:03:55]  And now it's 60 degrees and it's bright and sunny and it's beautiful.
[00:03:58]  I was sitting in the apartment and the wind blowing through on the walls and shit, it sounded like things crashing.
[00:04:08]  It was nuts.
[00:04:10]  That winter storm that broke out.
[00:04:12]  And now it's 60, like a day or two later.
[00:04:15]  This is not healthy.
[00:04:16]  Just nothing.
[00:04:17]  I took the dogs out the night before.
[00:04:22]  Everything was covered in a layer of ice, and then about an hour ago, everything is just drenched wet outside of my, yeah.
[00:04:30]  And it's shorts time.
[00:04:32]  Yep, yep.
[00:04:32]  It's beautiful.
[00:04:33]  Yeah, that is nice.
[00:04:34]  I mean, it's better than the snow.
[00:04:35]  First time I haven't worn a coat in about four, six months, something like that.
[00:04:39]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:40]  I have a coat that is torn to shit because it's so old.
[00:04:44]  I didn't even realize that has a big rip inside the backside of it.
[00:04:47]  That one.
[00:04:48]  And so I have been like, Putting it off?
[00:04:52]  Yeah.
[00:04:52]  I'm like, I need a new coat.
[00:04:53]  Sure.
[00:04:54]  And I mean to get one, but I'm like, I'll just make it to the end of this winter, and then we'll initiate next year.
[00:04:58]  You'll get it.
[00:04:58]  No, now is when you get a cheap coat.
[00:05:00]  Well, no, in a couple months.
[00:05:02]  Sure.
[00:05:02]  Then you strike.
[00:05:04]  Yeah, you survive the winter coatless, only to get a cheap coat in the summer.
[00:05:10]  Except you'll probably forget and then wind up needing one.
[00:05:13]  Absolutely, and I'll wear this 21 next year.
[00:05:15]  And then I'll make the excuses.
[00:05:17]  And do the same thing, and then we'll see you in about five years.
[00:05:19]  It's the circle of life.
[00:05:21]  So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

=== Policy Wonk Break (03:50) ===

[00:05:23]  And we're going to be in the past, because I've gotten enough of Alex's, a lot of hate going on in the present day.
[00:05:31]  It just feels like we need, I think, you know, probably listeners need, and I more so need, get a break.
[00:05:38]  A spiritual break.
[00:05:39]  Need a breakie from that nonsense.
[00:05:41]  And so we're going back to the past, we're going to be in 2004, and we've landed on April 7th, 2004.
[00:05:47]  There's a couple days of meh.
[00:05:49]  But this episode is nuts.
[00:05:52]  Okay.
[00:05:52]  It's nuts in a way that I didn't really expect.
[00:05:56]  A lot of times when I'm listening to episodes, I'm like, ah, I get a sense of what's happening here.
[00:06:03]  In this episode, I got so blindsided by the end of it that I was like, I gotta go.
[00:06:07]  I gotta reassess what happened.
[00:06:10]  Okay.
[00:06:11]  So anyway, this is pretty cryptic.
[00:06:14]  There's an M. Night Shyamalan like, oh my god, has this been there from the beginning?
[00:06:19]  I need to rewatch?
[00:06:20]  It's the quality of some of Shyamalan's lesser work.
[00:06:23]  Okay.
[00:06:24]  Like Avatar, The Last Airbender.
[00:06:25]  That's what I hear.
[00:06:27]  So we'll get down to business on this here past times episode, but until we do that, before we do that, let's say hello to some new wonks.
[00:06:33]  That's a great idea.
[00:06:34]  So first, American Dialing Code Neon Nips.
[00:06:36]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:36]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:06:37]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:38]  Thank you very much!
[00:06:39]  Thank you.
[00:06:40]  Next, a dedication in two parts to George, the finest feline who will be missed dearly, and to all the wonderful people on the KF Discord server.
[00:06:46]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:47]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:06:48]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:49]  Thank you very much.
[00:06:50]  Thank you.
[00:06:50]  Next, that one with the boobs.
[00:06:52]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:53]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:06:54]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:54]  Thank you very much.
[00:06:55]  Thank you.
[00:06:56]  Next, sloth philosophy who never got his buttons.
[00:06:59]  Yep.
[00:07:00]  Thank you so much.
[00:07:00]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:07:01]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:07:02]  Thank you very much.
[00:07:03]  I'd love to get you that button.
[00:07:05]  I do have bags of buttons still.
[00:07:07]  We'll see.
[00:07:08]  Next, Alex in Aberfan, South Wales.
[00:07:12]  Parathetically, it's true.
[00:07:13]  He does look like a lot of Welsh men.
[00:07:15]  Thank you so much.
[00:07:15]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:07:16]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:07:17]  Thank you very much!
[00:07:18]  Thank you.
[00:07:18]  And we get a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
[00:07:20]  So thank you so much to Emory Corps, providing a better today, tomorrow, with the knowledge that Chicago rules and Madison drools.
[00:07:27]  Thank you so much.
[00:07:28]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:07:30]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:07:31]  I have risen above my enemies.
[00:07:34]  I might quit tomorrow, actually.
[00:07:36]  I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
[00:07:38]  A little breaky for me.
[00:07:42]  And then we're going to come back.
[00:07:45]  And I'm going to start the show over.
[00:07:51]  Fuck you!
[00:07:53]  Fuck you!
[00:07:54]  I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
[00:08:02]  Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
[00:08:04]  Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
[00:08:08]  Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
[00:08:12]  That's really what I want to do.
[00:08:14]  I never want to come back here again.
[00:08:16]  I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
[00:08:23]  I'll be better tomorrow.
[00:08:24]  Nope.
[00:08:25]  But also, fuck you, Madison.
[00:08:27]  I don't know.
[00:08:28]  I've been to Madison, Wisconsin once or twice.
[00:08:31]  I think it's a fine town.
[00:08:32]  I got nothing against Madison.
[00:08:34]  I mean, hey, as far as Madison goes, comedy on state, boy.
[00:08:39]  Yeah, that makes up for a lot.
[00:08:40]  Makes up for a lot.
[00:08:41]  Yeah, I never got to perform there.
[00:08:43]  Oh, really?
[00:08:44]  Oh, man.
[00:08:45]  Never booked.
[00:08:45]  It is one of those rooms.
[00:08:48]  Never performed in Appleton?
[00:08:49]  Is that the same club?
[00:08:51]  Skyline?
[00:08:51]  No.
[00:08:52]  Never performed there either.
[00:08:53]  I've never performed there either.
[00:08:55]  Wisconsin, not a hot city for me.
[00:08:56]  I guess I did do Milwaukee a couple times.

=== Unconfirmed Battle Death Toll (03:48) ===

[00:09:00]  Milwaukee and Madison, yeah, but I mean, it's not like I did time.
[00:09:03]  Kenosha?
[00:09:04]  Kenosha?
[00:09:04]  Booked on comedy on state, yeah.
[00:09:07]  How about South Beloit?
[00:09:09]  Yeah, love it.
[00:09:10]  I prefer North Beloit.
[00:09:12]  So we start off the episode.
[00:09:14]  Alex has some news that is going to kick off the show.
[00:09:17]  All right.
[00:09:18]  This just in from Sky Television News, national television in the United Kingdom.
[00:09:23]  Report 130 soldiers killed in Iraq.
[00:09:26]  We're not hearing that here, are we?
[00:09:30]  A Pentagon source has set up to 130 U.S. troops have been killed in fierce fighting in Iraq in the last day.
[00:09:36]  A large-scale battle, described as intense, has taken place in the town of Ar-Ramadi, 20 miles west of Foljala.
[00:09:45]  So this is a Real Sky News article that Alex is reporting on, but it ultimately turned out not to be correct.
[00:09:51]  Alex consistently pronounces Fallujah like that, but I don't want to be too much of a dick about it.
[00:09:55]  I mispronounce things all the time.
[00:09:57]  Oh, I just wanted to be...
[00:09:58]  Yeah, I'm pointing it out for the sake of clarity.
[00:10:00]  Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:10:00]  So this has to do with a battle that broke out in Ramadi on April 6th, and in the first day of fighting, 12 U.S. soldiers were killed.
[00:10:08]  The thing is that even in the Sky News article, the reporter David Chatter is quoted as saying, quote, none of this is official yet, none of this is confirmed, which should be a cause to take the numbers that are being cited with a grain of salt.
[00:10:19]  Right.
[00:10:20]  Alex isn't into that.
[00:10:21]  He takes the unconfirmed numbers as concrete and then accuses the other media outlets of not covering the story.
[00:10:26]  In reality, other U.S. mainstream media outlets covered this battle, and with the gift of hindsight, they were much more accurate.
[00:10:34]  CNN reported, quote, as many as a dozen U.S. Marines were killed Tuesday in heavy fighting in the western Iraq town of Ramadi.
[00:10:41]  The Washington Post had an article about it, as did the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times.
[00:10:46]  The Chicago Tribune covered the story saying, quote, about a dozen U.S. Marines were killed Tuesday as fighting across Iraq intensified.
[00:10:53]  They said about a dozen because all told, the fatalities included these 12 marines, another U.S. soldier, and one coalition soldier from Ukraine.
[00:11:01]  I was trying to figure out where this 130 number could have come from, and the best guess that I have is that it was a mistake on the part of the Sky News reporter.
[00:11:08]  The Chicago Tribune article includes a figure that 130 Iraqis had died since fighting broke out that Sunday, which I have a suspicion is what is being confused by the Sky News article and then reported by Alex.
[00:11:20]  I'm not sure, that's just my best guess, but whatever the case is for what happened, it appears that this unconfirmed figure was inaccurate, but may actually reflect the death toll Yeah.
[00:11:30]  It's possible.
[00:11:31]  Yeah.
[00:11:31]  This highlights an important feature of Alex's news philosophy, though.
[00:11:36]  Here you can see him finding something a bit speculative that works pretty well for his narratives.
[00:11:40]  Instead of recognizing the speculative nature of the story, he treats it as rock solid.
[00:11:45]  And not only that, the rest of the media refuses to even cover the story.
[00:11:48]  It's incredibly important for Alex to present the rest of the media as covering up all the truths that he relays to the audience, because those same media outlets often report out information that debunks his narratives.
[00:11:58]  So nothing they say should be taken seriously.
[00:12:00]  Yeah.
[00:12:01]  Except for when Alex needs to use them as, like, even major media sponsorships.
[00:12:04]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:12:06]  That is interesting.
[00:12:09]  Because when you're talking about 2004 and this kind of, like, corroboration, you know, he doesn't just have...
[00:12:15]  Twitter.
[00:12:16]  He doesn't just have somebody who will send out a tweet and he'll be like, okay, this is the lie I'm going to base something off of.
[00:12:23]  Like, what do you...
[00:12:25]  A lot of times it's probably message boards.
[00:12:27]  I mean, yeah.
[00:12:28]  Like, it's so fascinating how social media is tinged backwards all of the ways that we kind of view this kind of news.

=== Conservative Predictions (08:29) ===

[00:12:36]  I don't know how I would process it now.
[00:12:38]  Well, I think you...
[00:12:39]  Well...
[00:12:41]  Without a social media to, like, scream in every possible direction.
[00:12:45]  And hear everybody screaming.
[00:12:46]  And hear everybody screaming.
[00:12:47]  Yeah, everybody, you know, just went to school that day.
[00:12:50]  Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, you see this bit of reporting from Sky News.
[00:12:55]  It says nothing is confirmed.
[00:12:56]  So you take it as like, wow, that could be bad.
[00:12:58]  Yeah!
[00:12:59]  I mean, obviously war is always bad.
[00:13:01]  But, you know, this could be something or it could be off.
[00:13:04]  Who knows?
[00:13:05]  And then you wait for confirmation and more solid reporting.
[00:13:08]  Yeah, you have to.
[00:13:09]  Which doesn't work now.
[00:13:10]  No, absolutely not.
[00:13:12]  You're right.
[00:13:13]  It was them saying, this is unconfirmed, and you would go, oh, well then I'll hold off.
[00:13:19]  Right.
[00:13:20]  And that would be it.
[00:13:22]  And then you would hold off.
[00:13:24]  Not Alex.
[00:13:26]  Even without social media and all those influences, he's still doing the same thing that people are now doing with social media.
[00:13:32]  So we've got an introduction of a narrative that will take over the rest of the show here in this next clip.
[00:13:38]  We've got their press release now.
[00:13:39]  We're going to get them on the show, the owner of the number one bar disco in Madrid, Spain, where to get into the VIP section, you've got to take a microchip.
[00:13:50]  And they're doing it right now.
[00:13:51]  And how many times did I tell you?
[00:13:53]  It's going to be a status symbol.
[00:13:54]  Your teenage children, within just a few years, will be demanding that they get the chip.
[00:13:59]  They will run out to the so-called tattoo parlors that are now being signed on by Verichip.
[00:14:04]  It'll be a counterculture thing sold to you directly by the military industrial complex.
[00:14:10]  And there's now a bus here in the U.S. Embedded microchip seller Verichip announces Chipmobile is on the move.
[00:14:17]  Watch for the Chipmobile coming to your town or neighborhood.
[00:14:21]  Like the ice cream truck, children lining up for their chips.
[00:14:25]  We got that on the website.
[00:14:27]  Folks, there's so much.
[00:14:29]  This show is going to be absolutely huge.
[00:14:31]  So huge!
[00:14:34]  that Alex was a little bit off on his chip predictions.
[00:14:36]  You think?
[00:14:36]  If anyone is trying to get making chips seem cool in 2024, it's his good buddy Elon Musk, and Alex is not criticizing him about that.
[00:14:43]  He's spending his time on air pretending that Musk is purely using his Neuralink chips to treat disabilities because covering it that way allows the audience to pretend that Musk isn't doing the exact shit Alex has claimed the globalists are trying to do for decades.
[00:14:55]  Anyway, this is about a club in Barcelona, not Madrid, and it's called the Baja Beach Club.
[00:15:00]  The owners decided that it would be a good idea to offer the option to people to get a chip implant that would serve as their VIP membership card, although they could still opt for a non-chip membership if they preferred.
[00:15:10]  The thinking was that people were going to go to a dance club and they didn't want to worry about having a purse or wallet that could be stolen, and that having a digital membership you could use to buy drinks would be really convenient.
[00:15:20]  One guy who got the chip was interviewed and he summed up the appeal saying, quote, you don't need money in your pockets and you can't lose it either when you are jumping.
[00:15:28]  The chip is jump dancing safe.
[00:15:31]  Can't argue.
[00:15:32]  I mean, yeah, if you take a lot of E and rave, then a chip is perfect for not remembering where your money is.
[00:15:39]  I need to jump.
[00:15:40]  Yeah.
[00:15:40]  Pretty regularly.
[00:15:41]  You need to jump.
[00:15:42]  So by the end of 2004, only 12 people had opted for the chip VIP card.
[00:15:48]  This is kind of the best outcome possible for that bar.
[00:15:51]  Sure.
[00:15:51]  You want a ton of people not necessarily to take this option, because doing so removes the VIP element of it all.
[00:15:58]  And really, at the end of the day, this was a move primarily aimed at drumming up publicity for the club, which was wildly successful.
[00:16:04]  Yeah.
[00:16:04]  By 2008, they'd abandoned the chip program entirely.
[00:16:07]  So this company, Verichip, did operate what they called a chipmobile, but it wasn't like an ice cream truck.
[00:16:13]  It went to senior citizen centers and offered the chips to Alzheimer's patients.
[00:16:18]  There were a bunch of articles in, like, 2002 about the Chipmobile providing chips for eight people and how that technology could be really helpful in situations where disoriented patients arrive at a hospital and may not be able to provide staff with important details, like who they are or what they might be allergic to.
[00:16:32]  Right, right, right.
[00:16:33]  Of course, people in Alex's world called this the Mark of the Beast because something has to be called the Mark of the Beast every month or so.
[00:16:39]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:40]  So that was this one for this time.
[00:16:41]  Man, that's just...
[00:16:43]  Ice cream truck.
[00:16:43]  So it's just the chips that they put in pets.
[00:16:47]  Yeah, and there were some medical applications that the FDA approved for humans.
[00:16:52]  Yeah, I mean, every time I've seen a pet go to a vet and they just scan the chip and they've got everything, I've been like, yeah, let's just chip people.
[00:17:01]  That makes sense.
[00:17:02]  Just scan the shit and then let's move on.
[00:17:04]  I think there's some concerns and definitely a debate that could be had, but I also think that some of the fear about it is maybe a little overblown.
[00:17:12]  We'll get to explore all of these ideas in the coming episode.
[00:17:15]  I believe you.
[00:17:17]  So Alex has a bit of a prediction in this clip, and you can guess.
[00:17:22]  You can decide for yourself if this was a good prediction.
[00:17:25]  Hashtag Alex Jones is right.
[00:17:26]  Let me tell you this.
[00:17:27]  Now, you know I make predictions, and unfortunately they've all come true.
[00:17:31]  I will now make one.
[00:17:32]  Let me make a conservative guess, or estimate, or prediction.
[00:17:37]  I thought it was a prediction.
[00:17:38]  Because I would say two years, but to be safe, I will say within four years, there will be reports every week.
[00:17:46]  Many of you as listeners will experience it as your 14-year-old daughter or son throws a fit and demands the IM-12 megachip.
[00:17:54]  I want the IM-12 megachip, Dad!
[00:17:57]  And say, all my friends are getting it.
[00:18:00]  I can't get in to certain events.
[00:18:02]  I'm not cool.
[00:18:03]  I can't interface the internet through my computer sunglasses if I don't have this.
[00:18:09]  I've got to have it.
[00:18:10]  And your child will come home, and you will never know until they're 20 years old that six years before, they were implanted with a chip.
[00:18:18]  And they're going to take the chip.
[00:18:22]  They're going to take the chip.
[00:18:23]  And if you catch them, they're going to scream and yell at you.
[00:18:26]  If you find the receipt in their dresser drawer...
[00:18:29]  They're going to say, I deserve it, you old coot!
[00:18:31]  You weirdo Christian!
[00:18:33]  This is so cool!
[00:18:36]  Donnie D, the Mac G rapper, has it.
[00:18:39]  The Mac G?
[00:18:40]  All these cool people have got it.
[00:18:42]  You're not going to stop me.
[00:18:43]  It's mine!
[00:18:44]  Now, I'm serious.
[00:18:46]  He's serious!
[00:18:46]  He's serious.
[00:18:47]  So this one did not pan out.
[00:18:50]  Conservative.
[00:18:51]  Conservative estimate, four years.
[00:18:53]  2008.
[00:18:54]  Yeah, that's what happened.
[00:18:56]  Here's what I love.
[00:18:58]  Here's what I love so much about predictions about what the kids will find cool.
[00:19:06]  Those predictions are made almost entirely by people who have never and will never be cool.
[00:19:11]  True.
[00:19:11]  You know?
[00:19:12]  So it's like, oh, these, you know, it's like the Google glasses.
[00:19:15]  They're like, oh, people are going to love wearing cool AR glasses.
[00:19:19]  It's going to be so cool.
[00:19:20]  And everybody saw it and they're like, you look like a fucking idiot, man.
[00:19:23]  And then we all just moved on.
[00:19:26]  Yeah, there are, there's some harsh awakenings for people who have ideas.
[00:19:32]  Yeah.
[00:19:32]  And I think that Alex is basing this off like, I don't know, his love of sci-fi when he was a kid and shit like this and, you know.
[00:19:40]  I just, I don't know.
[00:19:42]  I don't preclude the possibility that there could come a time in the future where some kind of chip Is useful in some applications in society.
[00:19:54]  Yeah, why not?
[00:19:55]  I don't foresee a future where kids are going and getting chips behind your parents' back and your parents find the receipt.
[00:20:04]  Because Donnie D, the Mac G rapper.
[00:20:06]  I want to try and be clear.
[00:20:08]  Because I know parents are all very scared of what's the next thing kids are going to find cool.
[00:20:15]  And I'm going to tell you this.
[00:20:16]  There's only two things.
[00:20:17]  Sex and drugs.
[00:20:18]  Still cool.
[00:20:19]  They were cool when I was a kid.
[00:20:21]  Before that, before that, and before that.
[00:20:23]  There's a couple of other sort of...
[00:20:25]  Sure, there's new ones.
[00:20:27]  Fireworks.
[00:20:27]  No, I mean things that are always in there.
[00:20:29]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:30]  You know, there's sex, drugs, fireworks.
[00:20:32]  Sure, sure.
[00:20:33]  To a certain group blades.
[00:20:35]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:20:36]  The blade group is always...
[00:20:38]  Slight danger.
[00:20:39]  As long as you let the blade group...
[00:20:41]  Be free and happy.
[00:20:43]  And Rome, they're good.
[00:20:45]  It's when you try and cage them that they get into trouble.

=== Weird Interview With Baja Beach Club Owner (15:28) ===

[00:20:47]  Sure.
[00:20:48]  Yeah.
[00:20:48]  So Alex is going to have an interview with the guy who runs the Baja Beach Club.
[00:20:54]  I'm sorry.
[00:20:55]  Alex had mentioned that already.
[00:20:57]  He said, we got the press release, we're going to have this guy on.
[00:20:59]  And I thought that meant in a future episode.
[00:21:01]  The Spanish guy.
[00:21:02]  He's not Spanish, he's American.
[00:21:03]  He lives in Barcelona.
[00:21:04]  Okay, okay, okay.
[00:21:06]  I didn't realize that that was meant like...
[00:21:09]  In a couple of minutes, we're going to interview this guy.
[00:21:11]  Okay.
[00:21:11]  So he comes in.
[00:21:12]  Right.
[00:21:13]  And this is one of the weirdest fucking interviews that I've ever heard.
[00:21:16]  Okay.
[00:21:17]  Alex is so nice to this guy.
[00:21:19]  What?
[00:21:19]  Because he's trying to bait him.
[00:21:21]  Right.
[00:21:21]  And we'll see this play out over the course of the interview.
[00:21:23]  Okay.
[00:21:23]  But here's where we begin.
[00:21:25]  We've been talking about the global mood to making an implantable radio frequency identification microchip to be the global identification system.
[00:21:36]  And I talked about how it's...
[00:21:38]  Something we'll first see in VIP circles.
[00:21:44]  And we are honored to be joined by Conrad Chase, the director of the Baja Beach Disco Bars that's in several European countries, and then it's the top-of-the-line club system.
[00:21:57]  Top-of-the-line.
[00:21:58]  And he has been implanted with the Verichip radio frequency identification system.
[00:22:04]  He was implanted on the national television show called Big Brother over there.
[00:22:09]  And now the VIPs of the bar, those that went into the VIP room, will have it.
[00:22:14]  And joining us from Madrid, Spain, is Conrad Chang.
[00:22:18]  That's right.
[00:22:21]  Good to have you on the show.
[00:22:22]  Good to be here.
[00:22:24]  In Barcelona, Spain, actually.
[00:22:25]  Okay, I apologize.
[00:22:27]  No, no, it's probably our fault.
[00:22:29]  My secretary probably screwed up with that.
[00:22:31]  No, I'm not sure it's our fault.
[00:22:32]  But they're in Barcelona.
[00:22:34]  So right off the bat, Alex is introducing the theme of this interview.
[00:22:38]  The globalists are trying to make you get an RFID chip, and their plan is to make it seem cool.
[00:22:42]  His interview subject, Conrad Chase, is the owner of a bar that's offering microchips for VIPs, which is supposed to be the exact thing the globalists would do.
[00:22:51]  He's saying that the special people get chips.
[00:22:55]  Conrad doesn't realize at this point, but that's the accusation that's running underneath this entire interview.
[00:23:00]  He's there on trial, but he doesn't know that.
[00:23:03]  Sure.
[00:23:04]  Because he's a bar owner who thinks he's doing a promotional interview for the bar.
[00:23:07]  Right.
[00:23:08]  But in reality, Alex is setting him up.
[00:23:10]  The first thing Conrad does is correct Alex about his bar being in Barcelona, not Madrid, and Alex is so gracious about it.
[00:23:16]  He's the most agreeable interview you could ever imagine.
[00:23:19]  And this is a strategy that Alex is going to employ in this interview to put Conrad at ease.
[00:23:23]  Which is working, it works really well.
[00:23:25]  Sure.
[00:23:26]  But to take advantage of him, essentially.
[00:23:27]  Right.
[00:23:28]  So when I said that I, there's the Shyamalan-y twist or whatever.
[00:23:32]  Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[00:23:33]  It's this.
[00:23:33]  Yeah.
[00:23:34]  This interview, when I was listening to the episode, I thought, snooze.
[00:23:39]  Incredibly bleh.
[00:23:41]  Yeah.
[00:23:42]  But then, as the rest of the show went on, I'm like, oh, no, no.
[00:23:46]  We have to break down the minutia of this interview of Alex being so nice to this guy and trying to lure him into traps.
[00:23:53]  Right.
[00:23:53]  Gotcha.
[00:23:54]  Okay, so what eventually turns out to be a non-eventful walk through the forest...
[00:24:02]  In the real world.
[00:24:03]  ...should have been filled with traps, explosives, and he falls and then lands on spikes.
[00:24:10]  Well, I think it's a pretty...
[00:24:11]  Alex is just bad at leading him to the traps.
[00:24:13]  No, he falls into a bunch of traps.
[00:24:14]  Oh, he falls into a bunch of traps.
[00:24:15]  But they're really boring.
[00:24:17]  In the real world, this is a boring interview.
[00:24:20]  Within the prism of Infowars, it becomes the most...
[00:24:23]  Sinister, evil thing that Alex has ever experienced.
[00:24:26]  And that's jarring.
[00:24:27]  It's very difficult to explain.
[00:24:30]  But you'll see it as things go on.
[00:24:32]  Like if somebody goes into a McDonald's and everybody's having a great time and they just behave as if they're haunted.
[00:24:40]  Like, just terrified.
[00:24:42]  Just constant.
[00:24:42]  There's ghosts everywhere.
[00:24:43]  And all you see is everybody in the play place sliding down slides, just having a grand old time.
[00:24:48]  Yeah, but if one person was dressed as a ghost.
[00:24:51]  Oh, okay.
[00:24:53]  Okay.
[00:24:54]  So there's a little bit of the appearance here.
[00:24:56]  So you're like, okay, maybe this will be fine.
[00:24:58]  Yeah.
[00:24:58]  Okay, okay.
[00:24:58]  But that's just ghosty Pete.
[00:25:00]  You know, he's just the guy who, he's a local character.
[00:25:02]  Ghosty Pete's always there.
[00:25:03]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:04]  Okay.
[00:25:04]  So Alex asks about Conrad being chipped, and here's the answer for that.
[00:25:10]  You yourself have been implanted.
[00:25:12]  Can you tell us about that?
[00:25:13]  I have, yes.
[00:25:15]  I have the very chip, VIP chip in my arm.
[00:25:19]  It is a radio frequency ID tag.
[00:25:24]  It's a microtransmitter.
[00:25:27]  It only transmits when the reader is in the vicinity, and the reader has to charge the chip before it to actually transmit its identifying signal.
[00:25:38]  So you cannot be localized all over the world via satellite, as some people may fear.
[00:25:43]  Okay.
[00:25:44]  Now...
[00:25:45]  Yes, you can.
[00:25:46]  When you go into the club, why did you decide to start this program at the Barcelona Club?
[00:25:54]  Exactly.
[00:25:55]  Well, we just opened our new VIP lounge here on the 25th.
[00:25:58]  We had the inauguration of our VIP lounge, and I wanted to have something very unique that no other club had, and we were able to achieve that with the VIP chip.
[00:26:08]  So if you didn't get the sense that something was off about this interview, this should be setting off huge alarm bells at this point.
[00:26:13]  Conrad is telling Alex that the RFID chips require the power from the reader to even operate, so they can't be used to track people.
[00:26:19]  Under normal circumstances, Alex would hear that and shout the person down.
[00:26:23]  But instead, he hears it and just moves to the next question.
[00:26:27]  It's very curious, and if I were in Conrad's position, I would be like, hang up, hang up.
[00:26:32]  I love it.
[00:26:33]  He's trying to get out in front of things.
[00:26:36]  He's like, hey, listen, I understand.
[00:26:37]  And before you even go any further, people have had joking questions and reasonable feared questions of like, oh, can the satellites follow me?
[00:26:44]  No, I guarantee they have not.
[00:26:46]  And Alex not screaming, yes, they fucking can and I'll kill your.
[00:26:49]  Yeah, but Conrad doesn't necessarily probably even know who Alex is, so he doesn't know that that's weird.
[00:26:56]  No clue.
[00:26:57]  He's just having a normal conversation.
[00:26:59]  But the second question there reveals a lot.
[00:27:01]  When he was asked why he did the chip thing, Conrad basically says that they want to do something splashy to promote the opening of their new video.
[00:27:09]  emotional interview as far as Conrad knows because this whole thing is marketing.
[00:27:13]  It's a whole.
[00:27:13]  And I think Alex understands that.
[00:27:15]  I think he understands what this guy's interest in being there is.
[00:27:18]  And he's using that to his advantage.
[00:27:21]  Because Alex understands that it is marketing.
[00:27:24]  Yeah.
[00:27:26]  On a fundamental level, he understands that truly this is marketing.
[00:27:30]  I am not actually discovering the mark of the beast on some fucking VIP club in Barcelona.
[00:27:36]  And this guy has an interest in marketing himself, his club, this technology, and all this stuff.
[00:27:41]  So he can use that against him.
[00:27:43]  Do a judo move and make that appear to be marketing for the New World Order.
[00:27:48]  Okay, so what I'm hearing is that this is our proto-Tucker-Putin interview.
[00:27:54]  I don't know about that.
[00:27:56]  I mean, this is a guy who runs a bar.
[00:27:59]  Alex Jones in 2004.
[00:28:01]  He has supreme power over the bar.
[00:28:03]  And Alex Jones is essentially where Tucker is now, back in 2004.
[00:28:07]  I'd be debatable if he has supreme power over the bar.
[00:28:10]  Get 12 people to get VIP chips.
[00:28:12]  Well, yeah, but he could kill any of them remotely.
[00:28:14]  No, he couldn't.
[00:28:15]  Yeah, see, okay, fine.
[00:28:16]  So Alex asks, you know, you got some other bars.
[00:28:18]  Yeah.
[00:28:19]  Are those ones going to have some chips?
[00:28:21]  Yeah, well, obviously.
[00:28:22]  Sir, is this going to be done at the U.S. and British and the club in Holland?
[00:28:27]  It's definitely going to be done in my club in Holland, and I will be opening soon in Cologne, Germany, another Baja Beach club.
[00:28:37]  And the...
[00:28:38]  The England, the clubs in Britain are actually a franchise, so I haven't had the opportunity to speak with them yet to find out whether they are interested or not, but I'm quite sure that this concept is really growing and I'm quite sure that they'll be interested soon.
[00:28:55]  So Conrad probably thinks that's a perfectly innocent question that someone with interest in doing a promotional interview might ask, but...
[00:29:02]  It's actually Alex grilling this guy.
[00:29:04]  These questions are being delivered with all the fake respect Alex can muster and designed to elicit responses that Alex can incorporate into the narrative that he's building.
[00:29:13]  For instance, this question was fishing for a response that the chip plan was going to be incorporated in all these other clubs, particularly the ones of the United States, so Alex could claim that the globalists are doing a trial run in Barcelona, but their main plan is to bring it here so they can chip all of his patriot buddies.
[00:29:28]  Conrad doesn't realize it, but Alex is asking him set-up questions, which explains why he's being so pleasant.
[00:29:33]  He doesn't want to raise any alarm bells and get this fish off the hook.
[00:29:36]  Yeah, this is as close to an FBI...
[00:29:41]  You're not under suspicion.
[00:29:42]  We're just coming in for a conversation.
[00:29:44]  This is totally normal.
[00:29:46]  Anything you say absolutely, totally won't be used against you.
[00:29:49]  Cut to.
[00:29:50]  So Alex asks again about, hey, you got your own chip, right?
[00:29:55]  Sure.
[00:29:55]  Because the answer to that one went a little off the rails.
[00:29:58]  And Alex really wants to nail down this idea that you got it on Big Brother.
[00:30:02]  Absolutely.
[00:30:03]  Which is apparently...
[00:30:04]  Wait, Big Brother the TV show?
[00:30:05]  Yeah.
[00:30:06]  He was on Big Brother?
[00:30:07]  Gran Hermano, the Spanish version.
[00:30:09]  Can you tell us about your implantation procedure and where that took place?
[00:30:14]  Because that's very interesting.
[00:30:15]  Sure.
[00:30:16]  Well, we did that actually on a Thursday night at 2 o 'clock in the morning while the club was open and performed it right here in the club, in the VIP lounge.
[00:30:27]  And I had a doctor come to perform the procedure.
[00:30:31]  It can be performed by any licensed nurse who is certified or is trained in...
[00:30:40]  Yeah, it's very convenient, a one-time deal, very, very easy to get the chip.
[00:30:44]  It's a simple injection, really, really simple, straightforward.
[00:30:48]  They do use a small needle to put a small anesthesia in first, and then they put the chip in, and it's not painful at all because of the local anesthetic.
[00:30:59]  Now, I had read that this was also broadcast on some television there on a show called Big Brother.
[00:31:04]  Yeah, actually, it wasn't broadcast on Big Brother.
[00:31:07]  What we had was the people from Big Brother came to our club and were going to be chipped.
[00:31:14]  It turned out being that on the night there was a great deal of chaos, the club was just So they're going to videotape it later for the show?
[00:31:28]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:31:29]  Well, that'll be the other...
[00:31:30]  That would kind of fit with the show, I guess.
[00:31:32]  Sure.
[00:31:33]  So Alex had some details wrong because he saw the words Big Brother in an article about Conrad that he skimmed and wrote his own story about it.
[00:31:39]  The way this was supposed to go was that Conrad would say that he got the chip on Big Brother, which is a subtle message.
[00:31:45]  Right.
[00:31:45]  The globalists are laughing at you.
[00:31:47]  Nominative determinism, yeah.
[00:31:48]  In the real world, Conrad was on season six of the Spanish version of Big Brother, but that wouldn't end up being until September 2004, which is months after this.
[00:31:57]  The way Big Brother works is that the show is being filmed as it's airing, because audience votes end up altering various aspects of the game, and in the Spanish version, the audience actually voted who to evict from the house.
[00:32:08]  It wasn't a house vote.
[00:32:10]  as it is in the American version.
[00:32:11]  Okay, all right.
[00:32:11]  It seems to me that the only way that this could work is that some people who work on the show were going to get a chip to become VIPs as part of a video package that Conrad would, about him, that would play at the start of the season to flesh out his character.
[00:32:25]  That's what I have to assume.
[00:32:26]  That's the only thing that makes sense.
[00:32:27]  Right.
[00:32:28]  Because it couldn't have been other contestants getting chipped since it's months before that season started, and it's months after the previous season had ended.
[00:32:34]  So there's just no way unless this was like a video package that they were filming because he was going to be on the next season.
[00:32:40]  Right.
[00:32:41]  Fun fact, Conrad came in second that season.
[00:32:43]  He came in second?
[00:32:44]  Good for him.
[00:32:45]  Not a fun fact, but yeah, good for him.
[00:32:46]  Good for him.
[00:32:47]  Proud of him.
[00:32:47]  Yeah.
[00:32:49]  Yeah, so he's on Big Brother.
[00:32:51]  I mean...
[00:32:51]  That show sucks.
[00:32:52]  I'm not sure the Spanish version.
[00:32:54]  Wait, Gran Hermano sucks?
[00:32:54]  I don't know if Gran Hermano sucks.
[00:32:56]  Man, it makes me...
[00:32:57]  That's such a better name.
[00:32:59]  I just love...
[00:33:00]  Yeah, Big Brother is very mundane and annoying, but Gran Hermano?
[00:33:05]  I'll watch the shit out of Gran Hermano.
[00:33:07]  Gran Hermano is the longest-running international version of Big Brother, from what I understand.
[00:33:14]  Have you heard the name?
[00:33:14]  It's been on for fucking ever.
[00:33:16]  Yeah.
[00:33:17]  Man.
[00:33:18]  That show is a mess.
[00:33:20]  Anyway, this interview goes on towards other subjects.
[00:33:24]  And I think that if I were Conrad at a certain point, I would start to realize, like, man, he's asking a fair amount of questions that aren't about my bar and aren't about this VIP program.
[00:33:34]  Maybe I should be a little bit on guard.
[00:33:36]  That's what happens when you're disarmed.
[00:33:37]  Yeah.
[00:33:38]  You had told my producer that FN Herzl...
[00:33:42]  A big manufacturer of firearms is moving ahead with a chip for the hand to access your firearm.
[00:33:48]  Yes, Alex, that's very interesting what they're doing.
[00:33:51]  It's really a great idea because the policemen that will be using it, they will have the chip implanted in their firing hand, right between the thumb and forefinger.
[00:34:02]  And that will actually provide a means of allowing the pistol to function.
[00:34:07]  If somebody were to steal the pistol from them, it does them no good.
[00:34:11]  It cannot fire unless you've got the proper chip in the hand.
[00:34:14]  Well, there's a move here in the U.S. to make all the gun manufacturers put RFID in the gun.
[00:34:20]  Then you wear a ring that activates it.
[00:34:23]  There's a move, actually, to make that the law by 2006.
[00:34:26]  Do you think that's a good idea?
[00:34:28]  I think it's a great idea.
[00:34:31]  Might be much easier to have the chip, though.
[00:34:33]  I think it'd be a lot easier to have the chip, because then you have the other advantages of having the chip.
[00:34:38]  You cannot lose it.
[00:34:39]  A ring, you can lose.
[00:34:40]  The chip, you cannot lose.
[00:34:41]  You don't have to worry about forgetting it if you ever were to take it off.
[00:34:44]  Fair point.
[00:34:45]  So this is getting a bit rangy.
[00:34:48]  Conrad's a guy who manages this bar in Barcelona who's trying to whip up press for his new VIP lounge.
[00:34:53]  But he also seems to be pretty into the microchip technology personally.
[00:34:57]  He seems to be a fan.
[00:34:58]  But I'm left wondering why it matters that he thinks it's a good idea to have chips for people to use guns.
[00:35:05]  This man lives in Spain and has no legitimate impact on legislation there or in the United States.
[00:35:10]  This is something that Alex can disagree with him about, but I struggle to see how this is meaningful.
[00:35:15]  But this is an instance where Alex is asking these baiting questions and he got exactly the answer he was looking for.
[00:35:21]  He doesn't respond to this with anger or even comment after Conrad answers because it went perfectly.
[00:35:26]  This guy who's running a microchip program to make chipping look cool wants you to have to get a chip to get a gun.
[00:35:32]  Alex has something he can work with here, but things aren't really where they need to be because this is still just a guy who runs a bar.
[00:35:39]  We need to elevate him somehow, which will be the next major challenge Alex has to face in this presentation that he's putting forth with this interview.
[00:35:46]  Why does it matter that this bar owner...
[00:35:48]  Wants people to get chips.
[00:35:50]  Well, I mean, I think the obvious thing is that the bar owner gets the famous people, the famous people get the chips, the famous people make regular people want to get the chips, etc.
[00:36:00]  Uh-huh.
[00:36:00]  Right?

=== Phone Tapper's Conspiracy (15:28) ===

[00:36:01]  That's the traditional...
[00:36:03]  But what does it matter that the bar owner thinks that you should have a chip to get a gun?
[00:36:07]  What impact does that have on any of this?
[00:36:08]  Well, because then only famous people with chips will be able to get guns.
[00:36:13]  Well, okay, fine.
[00:36:14]  But the...
[00:36:16]  And then they'll hunt regular people, as we all know.
[00:36:19]  The place of reality intersection is like, okay, you can grill him about the impact that making it look cool to get a chip has, I guess.
[00:36:29]  But when you're trying to branch it off into all of these other microchip conspiracies, you kind of need to make him more than just a guy who runs a bar.
[00:36:37]  You need to make him more important.
[00:36:39]  Yeah, okay.
[00:36:40]  All right, so he's got to be operative of some sort, right?
[00:36:45]  So he's working on behalf of the globalists as an undercover bar Baja agent.
[00:36:52]  Like John Tapper?
[00:36:53]  Yeah.
[00:36:53]  Tapper?
[00:36:54]  Yeah.
[00:36:54]  Is it Tapper or Tapper?
[00:36:55]  One of those.
[00:36:56]  Bar Rescue?
[00:36:57]  Yeah, I think that's what he's got to be.
[00:36:58]  That's not an undercover bar.
[00:37:00]  It's close.
[00:37:02]  So, well, there's one way you can go with it.
[00:37:05]  The other way that Alex decides to try and get at this problem is be like, you're working with Verichip.
[00:37:12]  Verichip is the company that makes the chips.
[00:37:14]  So he's trying to put him one step higher up the ladder than he appears to be.
[00:37:22]  Now, obviously you've been in contact with Verichip, the company.
[00:37:25]  I'd imagine they're pretty excited to have someone prominent with this VIP connection to be promoting this.
[00:37:30]  Yes, yes.
[00:37:31]  We have a very good working relationship.
[00:37:33]  I'm actually taking on a distributorship here in the Benelux.
[00:37:37]  Did you know IBM really owns Verichip?
[00:37:42]  Like in a metaphorical sense?
[00:37:44]  I haven't heard of that.
[00:37:46]  Verichip is owned by the Applied Digital Systems Corporation.
[00:37:48]  Yeah, but the main creditors and some of the board controllers are IBM, which is interesting.
[00:37:54]  I'm just saying a big technology company like that.
[00:37:56]  I wasn't aware of that.
[00:37:57]  They're a major shareholder in ADSX.
[00:37:59]  Okay.
[00:38:00]  Yeah, and at the same time, you know, the plant is in Beijing, China.
[00:38:04]  Were you aware of that?
[00:38:05]  Yes, yes.
[00:38:06]  So there are also some shareholders in it.
[00:38:09]  What?
[00:38:10]  So now we're starting to flesh out the answer as to why this guy matters.
[00:38:13]  He's in cahoots with Verichip, who's secretly owned by IBM and the Chinese.
[00:38:18]  Now this isn't just a bar owner.
[00:38:19]  It's a major player in an international conspiracy where his job is to make the chip look cool and hip for the kids.
[00:38:25]  You can see how this is starting to take shape.
[00:38:27]  The angles that Alex needs to pursue in order to make this interview what he wants it to be are being pursued.
[00:38:35]  So Verichip is owned, as Conrad is saying, by a company called Applied Digital Solutions.
[00:38:40]  In 1999, ADS took out a loan from IBM's credit company, and as of 2003, owed them about $77 million.
[00:38:48]  However, in 2003, ADS sued IBM, quote, alleging interference with business relationships, racketeering, fraud, and conspiracy.
[00:38:56]  They have a very sour relationship at this point, and a month before this episode was recorded, IBM demanded ADS repay their loan.
[00:39:05]  Ooh, that's no good.
[00:39:06]  Yeah.
[00:39:07]  ADS was preparing to declare bankruptcy, but IBM decided they could just pay back $30 million of the loan, and then they would call it even, as opposed to them just going out of business.
[00:39:15]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:39:15]  You don't sue us.
[00:39:16]  It's basically a settlement.
[00:39:18]  Yeah.
[00:39:18]  IBM does not own the company.
[00:39:20]  They just gave them a sizable loan, and then things fell apart as ADS became a less viable company when the dot-com boom ended.
[00:39:27]  That happens.
[00:39:27]  Also, just because something is produced in China, that does not mean that the Chinese government is a part owner of the company.
[00:39:33]  What I think is really interesting there is the dynamic that plays out over the course of this clip.
[00:39:38]  Alex directly asserts that IBM owns Verichip, but he wasn't expecting that Conrad would know the company that actually owns them.
[00:39:44]  Because Conrad pushes back, Alex has to retreat from his firm assertion that IBM owns the company to some vague ideas about boards and creditors.
[00:39:52]  This is how Alex is with all of his information.
[00:39:54]  He has very strong statements that he makes about his shit because he knows that most of the time no one will actually know anything about what he's talking about.
[00:40:01]  In those instances...
[00:40:03]  runs into someone with actual knowledge about the thing he's talking about, he crumbles.
[00:40:05]  And he has to severely hedge the strong statements he started off with.
[00:40:09]  And part of the reason he crumbles is because he's not looking to have an argument with Conrad at all.
[00:40:15]  Alex is doing this interview and saying the things he's saying with a wink to the audience.
[00:40:19]  He's playing to them, and Conrad's a prop in this.
[00:40:22]  It doesn't serve anyone's interest to argue about whether or not IBM owns the company.
[00:40:26]  I'm just trying to inject that for the audience.
[00:40:29]  Yeah, I think what is interesting is that Alex is kind of taken aback by him knowing about the computer chip.
[00:40:38]  Which is why he has to equivocate.
[00:40:39]  That changes his stance.
[00:40:41]  Which is like, if I'm Alex, that seems like a great judo move.
[00:40:47]  Like, now you know too much.
[00:40:49]  You know enough to now be even higher up in my conspiracy, because now you even know who owns shit?
[00:40:56]  Oh, okay.
[00:40:58]  How do you know yet?
[00:40:59]  That realization might dawn on Alex at some point.
[00:41:01]  Okay.
[00:41:02]  But one of the other things that is, I think, a hallmark of Alex's strategy is he never pursues lines of thought consistently.
[00:41:09]  So you have this approach here where you have, ah, here's a conspiracy thread.
[00:41:15]  The gun's chipping thing.
[00:41:17]  You know, scary.
[00:41:19]  And you have this other thread where it's like, he's working with Verichip, so he's an important person.
[00:41:23]  He's a big part of this conspiracy.
[00:41:24]  But then there's also just like, you go off on sidetracks.
[00:41:29]  You do like, instead of an A-A-A-A-A-B-B-B-B-B-C-C-C, you have an A-C-B-B-C-A.
[00:41:36]  You jump all over the place, so the point of what you're doing is a little bit distorted.
[00:41:40]  Yeah, I do that.
[00:41:41]  Sure.
[00:41:41]  I think a lot of people do.
[00:41:44]  No, interviews on purpose.
[00:41:46]  Shifting gears.
[00:41:47]  Sir, I know you're getting ready for a big night.
[00:41:50]  If we can just spend maybe ten more minutes with you, because I've got some other interesting questions about this.
[00:41:54]  Are you going to have any of your dancing girls implanted?
[00:41:58]  Yes, I have a lot of people who are interested, several employees.
[00:42:01]  What I wanted to do is I wanted to get some of our customers chipped, and we just, this past Monday, had three customers chipped.
[00:42:09]  And next week on Tuesday, I am scheduling another chipping session where I'll be chipping another six customers.
[00:42:16]  I want to first build up our customer database of people who have been chipped, and then I'll start working on the employees.
[00:42:22]  So Alex is asking if the dancing girls are getting chipped because he's fishing for things that would make getting chipped sexier to the general public.
[00:42:29]  Also, I'm not sure if there are dancing girls at this club, the way Alex is suggesting it.
[00:42:34]  It's interesting to hear that he's chipped three customers and there are six lined up because that's pretty close to all of the customers that he would have signed up by the end of the year, according to an analysis done by researchers from the University of Wollongong.
[00:42:45]  So it feels like, you know, it's a press tour.
[00:42:50]  Yeah.
[00:42:50]  This is what this is.
[00:42:53]  On the other hand, though, it does make sense that he would know a lot about the chip because this is 2004 and you're getting a chip implanted into your body, right?
[00:43:03]  Like, even now in 2024, the most famous rich person alive is...
[00:43:08]  Telling people that I'm going to put computer chips inside of you, and people are understandably, for the most part, reasonably concerned.
[00:43:14]  That was 2004!
[00:43:16]  The best I can tell is he's actually very interested in this technology, and that's why he chose it to be the big PR stunt that they're doing to open this VIP lounge.
[00:43:25]  Yeah, this is a personal thing that he is interested in.
[00:43:29]  Also, he was in a Dutch boy band called the Baja Boys.
[00:43:31]  I'm sorry, what?
[00:43:32]  No, he was not.
[00:43:33]  He was.
[00:43:34]  He was in a Dutch...
[00:43:35]  He was in a Dutch boy band.
[00:43:37]  He's an American who's in a Dutch boy band.
[00:43:39]  Who runs a bar in Barcelona.
[00:43:41]  Who runs a bar in Barcelona and was on Gran Hermano.
[00:43:43]  Yep.
[00:43:44]  Okay.
[00:43:45]  That is correct.
[00:43:45]  I love this guy.
[00:43:47]  Yeah.
[00:43:47]  I think I do.
[00:43:48]  Well, I have terrible news for you, and that is that he just died recently.
[00:43:52]  I was going to say.
[00:43:52]  Died in January.
[00:43:53]  That sounds right.
[00:43:54]  I feel terrible bringing that news to you.
[00:43:57]  Fair enough.
[00:43:58]  But, so, this...
[00:44:01]  The idea about trying to make this more appealing, make the chip more appealing, continues on through the next question.
[00:44:07]  Now, we've got your press release.
[00:44:09]  We're going to be posting that.
[00:44:10]  But I wanted to know what type of perks, because I was hearing that some of the stuff at your club, your fabulous club, is free.
[00:44:19]  So you get just really clean-o perks and you get the chip.
[00:44:23]  Right, exactly.
[00:44:24]  If you install the chip, then you get free entrance.
[00:44:27]  The entrance is normally €14, but with the chip, you get free entrance, well, basically for the rest of your life.
[00:44:35]  €14?
[00:44:36]  For the time you get the chip implanted.
[00:44:37]  God dang it!
[00:44:39]  Top end.
[00:44:40]  All floor money!
[00:44:41]  The chip costs €125, but what we do is we, the person would pay the €125 for the chip, and then they automatically receive €100 credit on their balance to be put towards purchases in the club.
[00:44:55]  So this is another question meant to elicit the answer that shows that the chip is being made to look alluring.
[00:45:01]  These are the carrots that are being dangled out in front of people.
[00:45:04]  Come on, don't you want to get the chip?
[00:45:05]  You get all these perks of the club and the sexy dancing girls are doing it.
[00:45:08]  It's so cool.
[00:45:10]  It's pretty shocking to me that Conrad can't hear the sarcasm in Alex's voice when he calls his club fabulous.
[00:45:15]  We've listened to enough of him that that sets off immediate alarms.
[00:45:19]  But this guy just thinks he's doing a normal-ass interview, not that the person he's talking to is trying to set him up.
[00:45:24]  It's wild.
[00:45:25]  I, I, I, it is.
[00:45:27]  Ooh, you're a fabulous club.
[00:45:29]  It is, it is.
[00:45:29]  These wonderful perks.
[00:45:30]  Man, Alex.
[00:45:32]  The worst thing that happened is he got famous.
[00:45:35]  He got too famous.
[00:45:36]  If Alex stayed within a certain range, you can't see him coming.
[00:45:43]  What in the world?
[00:45:45]  There's no way you see a guy like Alex coming if you're a bar owner in Barcelona who's just chipping people because you got super interested in the chip technology.
[00:45:54]  And because you probably have a lot of interviews that you're doing because this is being covered by a lot of outlets.
[00:46:01]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:46:02]  So you probably don't have time to even figure out who are all these people you're doing interviews with.
[00:46:07]  Nope.
[00:46:07]  Alex is going to slip through the cracks, and he is going to fucking exploit it.
[00:46:12]  And he can't do this stuff when he's famous.
[00:46:14]  No.
[00:46:15]  This is not something he can do now.
[00:46:17]  If you know it's Alex, then you are fucked, you know?
[00:46:19]  What is with this?
[00:46:20]  His profile's too high to trick most people.
[00:46:23]  Yeah, this is great.
[00:46:24]  So, I mean, there's a certain amount of this that...
[00:46:28]  Conrad, maybe causing his own problems with the way Alex is going to present this.
[00:46:32]  I'm reading some quotes, some of the things you said.
[00:46:36]  Did you say, quote, the chip will prevail in the future because in those times the people will use it as cash and getting rid of the need for a credit card?
[00:46:46]  I think that the first stage of microchipping of people has reached our country.
[00:46:50]  This is being launched to appeal to young people in the first place.
[00:46:54]  Yes, yes.
[00:46:55]  That is a statement that I made, I believe, with a television program from Portugal.
[00:47:00]  Yes, I believe wholeheartedly in the chip system.
[00:47:04]  The biggest advantage of it is that you don't have to worry about carrying cards around with you.
[00:47:09]  You don't have to worry about them getting lost, stolen, counterfeited.
[00:47:13]  You've got the chip with you at all times.
[00:47:15]  You can't forget it and nobody can steal it from you.
[00:47:18]  So, that's an interesting statement.
[00:47:20]  The chip will prevail, almost like it's a war.
[00:47:26]  Well, I'm not a fighter.
[00:47:30]  I'm not going to start any more wars.
[00:47:32]  The world has not wars, but I believe very strongly in the chip in that it, well, perhaps could prevent wars.
[00:47:38]  I think Alex was even surprised that this dude just said the chipping might prevent wars.
[00:47:44]  That's almost too perfect for what Alex is on the hunt for.
[00:47:47]  This question is meant to further the idea that Conrad is in on the conspiracy to trick young people into getting chipped as part of something bigger and more sinister.
[00:47:55]  That's pretty ridiculous, and his answer is right in line with what he is.
[00:47:58]  This guy who manages a bar who's made a plan to differentiate himself from the crowd with early adoption of what he thinks is going to be the next big tech thing.
[00:48:05]  He's wrong, but Alex is very clearly asking about this quote to twist his words.
[00:48:10]  When he says it's going to prevail, you get the sense that he means as a payment option or something.
[00:48:18]  It's not like everyone is going to be using it, but it'll prevail in the market.
[00:48:22]  Yeah.
[00:48:23]  Alex is dancing around the subject because he has to know that if he were to just say, hey, I think your VIP chip thing is a critical piece of the international system, And then what do you do?
[00:48:39]  You don't have any more fun quotes.
[00:48:41]  Yeah, what I find so interesting about all of this Mark of the Beast shit and all of these ideas and all that stuff is ultimately, like, if you go back and then kind of just trace the broad strokes, when cell phones became so ubiquitous that everyone had one...
[00:48:59]  It made perfect sense to turn all of those conveniences into just stuff that you could add on or make the phone do.
[00:49:07]  Everybody already had a phone.
[00:49:09]  Camera.
[00:49:09]  Yeah.
[00:49:10]  Put it on your phone.
[00:49:11]  RFID chip.
[00:49:14]  Wallet!
[00:49:14]  Credit cards!
[00:49:15]  Everything!
[00:49:16]  This is a great example of that.
[00:49:18]  Like, let's look at the credit card aspect.
[00:49:20]  Exactly.
[00:49:20]  There are people who can use their phone to pay for stuff.
[00:49:23]  But guess what?
[00:49:24]  You can pay for stuff all kinds of other ways.
[00:49:26]  Every other way.
[00:49:27]  It doesn't become the only method that's accepted, or even the predominant method.
[00:49:31]  It's just something that is a convenience for some people.
[00:49:34]  And you would imagine that if there were a point where chips became...
[00:49:40]  Not ubiquitous, but broadly accepted by people.
[00:49:43]  That's kind of the same way that it would be.
[00:49:45]  You could put your shoulder up to the reader as opposed to putting your phone on it.
[00:49:49]  Totally.
[00:49:50]  That's the kind of thing I would see.
[00:49:52]  And that you have your phone with you more often than 98% of the time to the point where the metadata that your phone carries knows where you are at all times.
[00:50:01]  It's like everything that they've dreamt was inevitable being chipped to your body just became inevitable by...
[00:50:09]  Virtue of how necessary your phone is.
[00:50:11]  Yeah, convenience.
[00:50:12]  Yeah.
[00:50:13]  So Alex asks this fella if there's a future that he sees where you would need a chip to get into the club.
[00:50:19]  Sure.
[00:50:20]  And his answer is strange.
[00:50:22]  Do you ever see a point in 10 years where if you don't have the chip, you can't get in the club?
[00:50:27]  Yeah, definitely.
[00:50:28]  Definitely.
[00:50:30]  The people are embracing this technology.
[00:50:32]  I'm flooded with people who want the chip.
[00:50:36]  The only thing that's slowing me down from getting more people having the chip implanted is that it has to be done in a clean, sterile environment.
[00:50:44]  It has to be done by a medical professional, so I have to schedule that during the day.
[00:50:48]  It can be done at night.
[00:50:50]  But you're a perfect atmosphere, though.
[00:50:53]  People are relaxed and happy, and I know Verichip has been opening offices here in the U.S. for implantation.
[00:50:59]  True.
[00:51:00]  So you're now part of the franchise, I guess.
[00:51:03]  You're going to be a provider of this, so I guess you could put a little sterile office in there and have the folks line up.
[00:51:10]  It's true.
[00:51:10]  It's something that I've been working at.
[00:51:12]  The caution that I have with that is that I prefer to have my customers sober.

=== Marketing Schemes and Medical Concerns (15:33) ===

[00:51:21]  I don't want them to be out.
[00:51:23]  I mean, there are medical concerns if someone has consumed a great deal of alcohol.
[00:51:28]  Sure.
[00:51:29]  But his answer there when Alex asks about the future, that's marketing.
[00:51:33]  That's not a sincere answer, and the demand at Barcelona Club is clearly lower than what he's telling Alex, saying he's flooded with requests.
[00:51:40]  This is, in essence, a perfect setup for Alex, because in order for Conrad to pursue his goals of promoting the club, he has to make getting the chip seem like an appealing prospect, which is actually exactly what Alex is saying the globalists want him to do.
[00:51:54]  But his actions pursuing his own wants are indistinguishable.
[00:51:58]  Distinguishable from what a globalist would do pursuing the wants that Alex is describing.
[00:52:03]  Yeah, your personal profit motive...
[00:52:06]  Leads to the exact same effect as a globalist evil secret plan.
[00:52:11]  You're fucked.
[00:52:12]  Therefore, you're hosed.
[00:52:14]  There's nothing you can do.
[00:52:15]  But foreseeing a future where you need to be chipped to enter a club would require you to imagine a future where clubs are not market-driven businesses anymore.
[00:52:22]  When you're running a service business, you want to do whatever you can to limit the barriers to customers spending money at your establishment.
[00:52:29]  That's why a lot of bars are lax on carting people, because if you're loose on that, you take a risk, but you expand your pool of potential customers.
[00:52:35]  If we had a world where you needed to be chipped to get into a club, you're putting an unnecessary restriction on who can give you money.
[00:52:43]  The only way a business would go for that is if they were forced by the club.
[00:52:46]  the government, which if that's the case, then getting into a bar is the least of your worries in that scenario.
[00:52:52]  Right.
[00:52:53]  That's not going to happen unless everything has changed.
[00:52:56]  Yeah, I appreciate the idea of like, okay, because it makes sense from the conspiracy point of view.
[00:53:04]  The evil people aren't just going to be like, hey, everybody gets chipped now.
[00:53:10]  You try and make it an attractive prospect.
[00:53:13]  So there's a certain amount of this that does make sense.
[00:53:17]  But, boy, I just feel like, and this could just be personal, right?
[00:53:25]  I just feel like the globalist evil isn't going to choose the Baja Club.
[00:53:30]  Baja Beach Club?
[00:53:31]  Yeah, the Baja Beach Club just seems like the wrong...
[00:53:34]  But it's run by a guy who's on Spanish Big Brother.
[00:53:36]  No, and I understand all the surrounding stuff.
[00:53:39]  But I truly feel like this, again, this could just be my personal projection onto the globalists.
[00:53:46]  I feel like the name would turn them off.
[00:53:49]  Maybe.
[00:53:50]  I think the better way to do it would be get relevant pop stars.
[00:53:54]  It would make sense.
[00:53:55]  I feel like that would have a far bigger impact than the VIP section of a bar that most people are not going to go to.
[00:54:01]  Yeah.
[00:54:02]  Hey, you know who's huge at this time?
[00:54:04]  Kanye West.
[00:54:05]  And I'm sure that'll never go wrong.
[00:54:07]  No.
[00:54:07]  Little Wayne have a song about I'm an Alien.
[00:54:09]  Didn't he have a song like that?
[00:54:11]  Yes.
[00:54:11]  I have a chip.
[00:54:12]  Why not?
[00:54:12]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:54:15]  Even Alex brought up that the hip rapper McG.
[00:54:19]  No, not McG.
[00:54:21]  Daddy, no, Big D, Donnie D, the Mac G rapper.
[00:54:26]  Donnie D, the Mac G rapper.
[00:54:27]  Yes.
[00:54:28]  Very relevant performer.
[00:54:30]  Love it.
[00:54:30]  So I got to say, there are instances in this interview that Conrad makes unforced errors, and this would be a big one.
[00:54:36]  Okay.
[00:54:37]  Well, let's talk more about that.
[00:54:38]  You know, an Army War College document said that we're all going to accept the chip in the next few days.
[00:54:42]  This is where a suspicion should be, very much.
[00:54:45]  And, you know, thanks to the culture.
[00:54:47]  And so you do see a time in the future where you won't even be able to get in without the chip.
[00:54:52]  Yeah, I definitely see that.
[00:54:54]  I see in the future that the chip will be embraced here in my club, but I believe also it can.
[00:55:03]  Take the place of the passport.
[00:55:05]  It could be a global passport.
[00:55:08]  Everyone on the planet would use this as a means of passport.
[00:55:13]  The problem, the limiting factor...
[00:55:15]  Is Alex like twiddling?
[00:55:17]  The chicken little, the shy falling syndrome.
[00:55:21]  The same thing that we went through with Y2K that everyone went into a panic and predicted that...
[00:55:27]  There was going to be a huge blackout and whatnot.
[00:55:30]  No one predicted that.
[00:55:31]  I think we've all seen that in the year 2000, the changeover from 1999 to 2000.
[00:55:36]  There were very few problems.
[00:55:38]  I don't know, though, sir, if you can really compare those two, but certainly I can see that young people are going to be more open-minded and are going to be embracing this, and I've seen that.
[00:55:53]  Sorry.
[00:55:53]  No, that's okay.
[00:55:54]  Oh, that's okay.
[00:55:55]  So, I gotta say, that was an unnecessary path for Conrad to go down.
[00:55:58]  Out of nowhere, suggesting that the chip could be a new form of a passport, come on, man.
[00:56:02]  I like that.
[00:56:02]  That couldn't be more precisely what Alex would hope this guest would say.
[00:56:06]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:56:06]  This is about as good as it gets for Alex, but we still don't really have a reason to feel like this is more than a guy who runs a bar saying this.
[00:56:14]  We used to do stand-up.
[00:56:15]  We've met a lot of people who run bars, and they often believe insane things.
[00:56:19]  It's not that big of a deal that a guy who runs a bar thinks that microchips could replace passports.
[00:56:24]  Alex has speculated that he's in bed with the IBM and the Chinese government, but that really hasn't been firmly established.
[00:56:30]  So there's more work to do on that.
[00:56:31]  Yeah, I mean, as far as, like, relative eccentricities, this bar owner makes the most sense out of 99% of the ones that I've met.
[00:56:43]  Sure.
[00:56:44]  In my time, yeah.
[00:56:44]  Yeah, and he's unfortunately seemingly fairly naive and is...
[00:56:51]  Happens to accidentally have found himself on Infowars.
[00:56:54]  When he said it could be a new passport, it really feels like the words turgid and tumescent should be applied.
[00:57:01]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:57:02]  It's insane.
[00:57:03]  This is all just audio, so I don't know, but I would imagine that Alex got up and is dancing around the room.
[00:57:08]  Yeah, it's right.
[00:57:08]  The desk goes just a little bit higher.
[00:57:12]  You're a joke.
[00:57:13]  You did not just say that.
[00:57:16]  So now, in order to further this goal of making Conrad a more important cog within the machine, Alex brings him up again this idea of, like, you're working with Verichip.
[00:57:27]  Sure, sure, sure.
[00:57:28]  Sir, now, you seem to be really up on all this about how we're going to accept that this will be the global model.
[00:57:34]  Did you have discussions with Verichip?
[00:57:36]  Is this their idea, or did you...
[00:57:39]  It was all my idea.
[00:57:42]  I take all the credit for it.
[00:57:43]  But, I mean, your comments about this being the global ID and things, did you discuss this with Verichip, or was this their idea?
[00:57:50]  Yeah, I have had in-depth discussions with Keith Bolton, the vice president of Verichip.
[00:57:58]  In fact, yesterday, he and I were discussing it at great length, and I discussed the...
[00:58:06]  Yeah, my belief in the system and also gave a little advice to him that there needs to be a second source of verification, for example, a retina scan.
[00:58:19]  Oh, on top of it.
[00:58:21]  A double buck of the beast!
[00:58:22]  Was Mr. Moulton talking about this global ID system?
[00:58:25]  Correct, yes.
[00:58:25]  He is a very, very strong believer in it.
[00:58:30]  He informed me yesterday that they are in discussion.
[00:58:33]  I believe, I don't want to quote directly, but I believe that they do have a signed contract with the Italian government to implement a contract.
[00:58:43]  a test of the Verichip system installed in government employees for verifying their identification.
[00:58:51]  So here is where Alex is making his move to make Conrad more important than just a guy who runs a bar.
[00:58:56]  Now we're getting the insinuation that Verichip is trying to to implement a world ID, and Conrad is more or less a front man working with them to make it look cool.
[00:59:04]  It seems like he's a guy who believes in the potential of this technology, and of course Verichip executives would want to pursue a gigantic business application of their tech, like for identification purposes.
[00:59:14]  Yeah.
[00:59:14]  Yeah.
[00:59:15]  The idea of a global ID based on this is a bit too ambitious, but having a contract with a government agency?
[00:59:20]  To provide secure identification for employees, that seems doable.
[00:59:24]  That seems basically what they're talking about.
[00:59:26]  Conrad thinks Alex is a well-meaning person, asking him about whether or not a chip business executive believes that their business can expand.
[00:59:33]  Which is an interesting question.
[00:59:35]  But in reality, Alex is asking him, do you have any secret conspiracy conversations with Verichip about how they're going to force me to get the mark of the beast?
[00:59:42]  Right.
[00:59:42]  You kind of start to feel bad for him, because there's an earnestness with which he's answering these questions, and it's just being used against him.
[00:59:49]  It is.
[00:59:49]  You see the trap and you see what Alex is going to do with this.
[00:59:52]  Right, right.
[00:59:53]  I mean, the irony of it is that he's almost far too earnest to ever believe that he's got an ulterior motive.
[00:59:59]  Yeah.
[00:59:59]  He's just so goddamn earnest.
[01:00:01]  Yeah.
[01:00:02]  You know?
[01:00:02]  He's just literally like, man, I'm really actually excited about this computer check.
[01:00:06]  Kind of makes you understand how we could come in second on Big Brother.
[01:00:08]  Totally.
[01:00:09]  Yeah.
[01:00:09]  I get it.
[01:00:12]  I mean, the idea that you could...
[01:00:14]  This would be a great guy to use if you're an evil corporation, but I just don't feel like there's any way for you to get this guy to really be evil about something that he likes.
[01:00:25]  Yeah, I think that if you were part of an evil conspiracy...
[01:00:28]  It would be unwise to talk like this.
[01:00:31]  Yeah, I don't think he would be able to do it.
[01:00:32]  I don't think he's got it in him to lie to Alex about how great something is if he doesn't actually believe it's great.
[01:00:38]  If he knows that it's going to hurt you, I don't think he could avoid saying, also, this is probably going to hurt you.
[01:00:44]  Well, that may be.
[01:00:47]  But he has some other ideas of ways this tech could be used.
[01:00:51]  And Alex has got to just be like, woo!
[01:00:54]  What about special forces?
[01:00:56]  I've been hearing the military is going to be getting this.
[01:00:58]  That's where I see one of the largest advantages of this, to be put in the military.
[01:01:04]  I served in the military myself, and I know in the indoctrination process, you run through before boot camp, and you get your shots, and I can see this very easily being implanted in each soldier as they run through the indoctrination process.
[01:01:20]  And instead of carrying dog tags, which was always a problem, your dog tags would get lost or stolen.
[01:01:28]  The chip never gets lost or stolen.
[01:01:31]  We'll always be with you.
[01:01:32]  Well, I'll tell you what, sir.
[01:01:33]  I know you're very busy, but I've just got four or five other questions.
[01:01:36]  We've got a quick three-minute break coming up.
[01:01:38]  Can we just do five minutes on the other side?
[01:01:40]  Sure, Alex.
[01:01:41]  No problem.
[01:01:42]  Okay, thank you so much.
[01:01:43]  We're talking to Conrad Chase.
[01:01:44]  Just intriguing.
[01:01:45]  Just intriguing, guys.
[01:01:46]  What is happening?
[01:01:48]  What is fucking happening?
[01:01:49]  You can just feel Alex's excitement.
[01:01:51]  I mean, yeah, it is.
[01:01:53]  Can I talk to you in five minutes?
[01:01:55]  I gotta go handle something in the bathroom for about five minutes.
[01:01:58]  I know you're super busy, but in my world, you are a big fish, and you're on the line, very clearly.
[01:02:06]  I gotta get as much content out of this as possible.
[01:02:08]  Wow.
[01:02:08]  So one of the things that I just feel bad about listening to this is that I don't think that at any point, really, Conrad understands.
[01:02:17]  The context of the conversation Alex is having.
[01:02:19]  Because Alex is like, he's saying this stuff, and Conrad's laughing along with him, and it's just, oh, God.
[01:02:26]  We're talking to Conrad Chase, the director of the Baja Beach Disco Bars in Europe, and he's now an Applied Digital Solutions implantation center.
[01:02:35]  They're putting all that in.
[01:02:37]  Again, he's still just implanting the customers.
[01:02:39]  Just a bar guy.
[01:02:40]  During the break, I talked to you, Mr. Chase.
[01:02:42]  You said you liked that.
[01:02:42]  If you want to be a VIP, got to get the chip.
[01:02:44]  That might be a...
[01:02:45]  Might be a slogan for you later, huh?
[01:02:47]  I like that, Alex.
[01:02:48]  It's very creative.
[01:02:49]  I might borrow that if I may.
[01:02:51]  Sure, go ahead.
[01:02:52]  It's all yours.
[01:02:54]  Now, what's the Verichip PR line?
[01:02:58]  It's there when you need it?
[01:03:00]  We're there when you need it.
[01:03:03]  It just feels bad.
[01:03:04]  It feels dirty.
[01:03:06]  Okay, that one's not fair.
[01:03:09]  That is not fair.
[01:03:10]  I mean, it makes sense.
[01:03:12]  If you ask somebody to say the slogan for something...
[01:03:15]  But the slogan makes sense.
[01:03:16]  Come on.
[01:03:17]  You know, having that information, if you're, let's say, an Alzheimer's patient who doesn't remember things when you show up in the hospital, it's there when you need it.
[01:03:25]  Sure.
[01:03:25]  Boom.
[01:03:26]  Right.
[01:03:26]  If you need to locate your dog because it's gone missing, boom, it's there.
[01:03:30]  No, no, no, I understand, but I mean, if you, there's no way that anybody could ask me to, like, hey, could you say a slogan for me without me being like, any slogan anybody uses ever is evil for some reason.
[01:03:44]  Well, at the very least, you asking me to say it, you're up to something.
[01:03:48]  Absolutely, absolutely.
[01:03:49]  So Alex, at this point, decides to cut the shit.
[01:03:52]  And just lay out that...
[01:03:54]  Okay, now it's time to...
[01:03:56]  Well, they're almost done with the interview, so I was just going to be like, all right, plot twist.
[01:04:00]  Prestige, yeah.
[01:04:00]  But Conrad still, I don't think, gets it.
[01:04:03]  Okay.
[01:04:04]  Now, let me just be honest with you here.
[01:04:06]  You talk about chicken little scenarios.
[01:04:08]  Yeah.
[01:04:10]  I have to tell you that there is a global plan.
[01:04:14]  As you said, you talked to Mr. Bolton, and the government's pushing this.
[01:04:17]  And, you know, people talk about Germany with the papers, please, and this tracking and this controlling and having it to buy and sell.
[01:04:23]  You think that's coming?
[01:04:24]  I mean, you know, you said the TV show Big Brother is coming out to interview you.
[01:04:28]  I mean, this is Big Brother, and this is a total control grid that's being put in, and I see it being pushed as a VIP thing so that the youth all go out and get it.
[01:04:39]  What do you say to that?
[01:04:40]  Yeah, I think it's the technology that's there, and I'm a strong believer in taking advantage of the technology at hand.
[01:04:48]  There are a great deal of advantages in using the technology, and I think people need to get over their fears, like I used before, the chicken little fears.
[01:04:59]  But you're an American.
[01:05:00]  You're an American.
[01:05:01]  The Founding Fathers said, don't trust government, limit its size, have liberty, have a Bill of Rights, and you're saying you're not worried about that?
[01:05:09]  But then we created one of the best governments in the world, one of the best governments which can be trusted.
[01:05:15]  And I believe you need to trust your government, and you need to trust technology.
[01:05:20]  It's there.
[01:05:21]  We have to use it.
[01:05:22]  So this guy doesn't seem to get that Alex is now just directly saying to him, I'm accusing you of doing PR work for the Mark of the Beast that will enslave all of the world's free people.
[01:05:31]  He's too busy living in reality, where there's a concern about this kind of technology, but he takes the optimistic view, where businesses and government should be trusted and the prospects of this technology outweigh its risks.
[01:05:42]  He seems to think that that's the kind of conversation he's having, but he's very wrong.
[01:05:46]  I think Conrad seems very naive, both in how he's dealing with this interview and how he's viewing the idea of this technology being used harmlessly for everyone's benefit.
[01:05:55]  Alex is wrong on the other side of it, but that doesn't mean that I agree with Conrad either.
[01:05:59]  Sure, sure.
[01:05:59]  I think that he's maybe underestimating something.
[01:06:03]  We were all so naive back then.
[01:06:06]  I think one of the big challenges that we all face now is that we have this kind of idea of...
[01:06:13]  I generally know when most people are lying.
[01:06:17]  Because there's a lot of lying going on.
[01:06:19]  You look at the TV, you look at the Fox News, you look at the shows from media, you see a lot of liars.
[01:06:24]  And you think, I think I have a handle on when people are lying to me.
[01:06:28]  But that's the scariest part, because that's when you get lied to, because you don't know every time.

=== Factory of Sincerity (15:29) ===

[01:06:33]  But because you're confident that you can catch it, you feel like you're good.
[01:06:37]  I appreciate that this guy is just like...
[01:06:40]  I'm going to bluff my way through it.
[01:06:42]  Well, at the very least, he's saying, I'm going to believe the best in everything.
[01:06:46]  I'm going to believe the best in this technology.
[01:06:48]  It's never going to be used for harm or in ways that are hurtful to people.
[01:06:52]  I'm going to believe the best in this guy who's so nice enough to ask me to come on his radio show.
[01:06:56]  He's such a nice guy.
[01:06:57]  It's a better headspace, but you can see how...
[01:07:02]  I think you should trust your government.
[01:07:03]  I think you should trust it.
[01:07:05]  You know, if he's selling globalism...
[01:07:10]  As evil, and he's accused of being evil, and his response is just like, yeah, I think the technology's really gonna make things better.
[01:07:17]  Yeah, I think there's a lot of the benefits outweigh the negatives, and hey, you know, you can't always distrust everything.
[01:07:23]  If the devil can pull that trick, now that's some solid stuff.
[01:07:28]  Where it's like, hey man, I get what you're saying.
[01:07:30]  I am the devil.
[01:07:32]  But what if it's like 51% better than God?
[01:07:35]  How about that?
[01:07:36]  Did you think about that?
[01:07:37]  Maybe it's even, but we got 1% better.
[01:07:39]  So Alex remembers at this point that he said he was in the military.
[01:07:43]  Yes.
[01:07:44]  And so now...
[01:07:44]  Which military?
[01:07:45]  He was in Dutch boy band?
[01:07:47]  No.
[01:07:47]  Dutch boy band?
[01:07:48]  Was it called the military?
[01:07:50]  Hey, let me ask you a question.
[01:07:52]  What did you do in the military?
[01:07:53]  I'm just curious.
[01:07:54]  I was in telecommunications.
[01:07:56]  Oh, telecommunications.
[01:07:57]  Computer tips?
[01:07:59]  Yes, I was.
[01:08:00]  Did you do NSA work or anything?
[01:08:03]  Excuse me?
[01:08:04]  What type of work did you do?
[01:08:07]  Well, in communications, it was, I can't really get into it because it was not top secret, but secret classified information.
[01:08:17]  I figured that.
[01:08:18]  It was a form of combat communications.
[01:08:21]  See, now Alex has asked that question, and he has decided that the answer to yes, the NSA, is yes.
[01:08:27]  He's just decided that based on that answer, he's admitted, basically, that he was working for the NSA.
[01:08:33]  So now, not only is he in bed with these Verichip people who are owned by IBM and the Chinese government, he is now also an operative of the National Security Agency.
[01:08:42]  Yeah.
[01:08:43]  So, we have made him important.
[01:08:45]  He is no longer just a bar owner.
[01:08:47]  He said all this...
[01:08:48]  Pretty wild stuff about his belief in chip technology.
[01:08:52]  This is perfect for Alex.
[01:08:53]  It does feel as though we're at the Coliseum, and they just toss somebody in with a lion, and that person was like, I've never seen a lion before, and starts petting him.
[01:09:02]  I'm a cat lover.
[01:09:03]  And then starts pouring, like, sauces on them, just like, oh, I bet this lion will never eat me.
[01:09:09]  Like, this is absurd.
[01:09:11]  So Alex is wrapping things up, and he's like, hey, I think that you should...
[01:09:16]  Look into these companies that you work with.
[01:09:18]  What do you mean?
[01:09:19]  He's evil, right?
[01:09:20]  Well, I have to be honest with you.
[01:09:22]  The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and I think you need to investigate Verichip and IBM, and you need to look at Applied Digital, and you need to look at the plant they've built in China that you said you were aware of.
[01:09:34]  And I think it's very scary for you to say, no chip, you won't be able to get in the club, and that you think that's somewhere you might be going, or having chips in our hands to have guns.
[01:09:43]  Sure.
[01:09:44]  Well, I would never enforce it that stringently that you cannot enter my club without the chip.
[01:09:50]  Definitely not.
[01:09:51]  I do feel that that is an excellent idea, having that for weapons control.
[01:09:58]  Earlier you said, though, that's where it's all going, that when everybody starts accepting it, it's going to go to that.
[01:10:03]  You said that earlier.
[01:10:03]  I believe it will.
[01:10:04]  I definitely believe it will.
[01:10:06]  When the first automobiles came out, people thought that there was no need for a vehicle that would travel at such, quote-unquote, breakneck speed.
[01:10:14]  You know, that's what the Army War College says.
[01:10:15]  They say that similar thing.
[01:10:17]  Wow, you are an interesting fellow.
[01:10:20]  And I really appreciate your honesty.
[01:10:22]  Jesus Christ.
[01:10:23]  So Conrad's not doing a good job of making his point about whether or not you should need a chip to get into the club.
[01:10:28]  It does kind of seem like he's saying yes and no to that simultaneously, but I think he means that he would not enforce that now, but can envision a world where...
[01:10:36]  Where it's the normal means of identification off in the future.
[01:10:39]  It's not actually contradictory, but it's not being expressed well.
[01:10:42]  But you can hear Alex expanding his implications that Conrad is working with the government, saying that his words are mirroring the Army War College.
[01:10:50]  Alex saying, you're an interesting fellow, I appreciate your honesty, can be translated to, you naive idiot, I'm gonna fuck you over so hard with this.
[01:10:57]  It's amazing.
[01:10:59]  There's such a giddiness in Alex's voice when he's like, you are an interesting fellow!
[01:11:02]  Yeah, that is the bless your heart of...
[01:11:05]  Yeah, wow.
[01:11:06]  So the interview ends, and I would say that Alex is just like, he's doing great.
[01:11:12]  Yeah, I mean, he should be smoking.
[01:11:13]  This is a post-coital interview right now.
[01:11:17]  You've got your microchip now, and I guess you're part of the elite VIP circle now.
[01:11:23]  I'm the first person on the planet to have used it in a nightclub.
[01:11:29]  Well, that's very interesting, and I hope that you will look down into your heart and your soul and get some discernment and look at the bigger picture of the global ID system that you discussed and ask yourself, is a global government a good idea?
[01:11:44]  I mean, everybody wants to rule the world, and who are these people that are going to rule the world, and how will they use these ships to do it?
[01:11:50]  Sure.
[01:11:51]  There is no negative aspect whatsoever with a chip.
[01:11:56]  Only positive.
[01:11:57]  Resistance is futile.
[01:11:59]  You will take the chip.
[01:12:00]  Want to be VIP?
[01:12:02]  Get the chip.
[01:12:03]  Hey, listen.
[01:12:04]  Conrad Chase, thanks for coming on the show.
[01:12:06]  Take care.
[01:12:07]  Thank you, Alex.
[01:12:07]  Bye.
[01:12:08]  Have fun.
[01:12:09]  That guy was reading right off a government script, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:12:12]  No, he wasn't!
[01:12:14]  I don't know if Verichip put all these ideas in his head or if he came from the inside.
[01:12:18]  It is...
[01:12:19]  Secret work?
[01:12:20]  The military?
[01:12:22]  So you may notice the second the interview ends, Alex goes on the attack.
[01:12:25]  Secret work!
[01:12:26]  It's mysterious why he didn't grill this guy about how he was reading from a government script while the interview was going.
[01:12:31]  I have a strong suspicion it was because Alex could tell this guy was a little bit of a salesman and he was promoting his club, but also what seems to be like a sincere belief in the potential of chip technology.
[01:12:41]  He's just a person who believes that.
[01:12:43]  He's an early adopter.
[01:12:44]  There was so much more to gain from that interaction by not blowing up on this guy and revealing your true intentions in the conversation, which is exactly what Alex did.
[01:12:52]  That said, because I understand the world this interview took place in, I feel terrible for Conrad.
[01:12:57]  In the real world, this was kind of...
[01:12:59]  of a boring interview with a guy who runs a bar and believes in the potential of microchip technology.
[01:13:03]  But in InfoWars world, this was a damning revelation of a cocky NSA hatchet man chipping VIPs at his club to make it cool so kids want to get it to bring in the one world government to the mark of the beast.
[01:13:15]  He almost couldn't have answered a number of those questions better for Alex's purpose.
[01:13:18]  Yeah.
[01:13:21]  You just see, it's like you see, like, a vase dropping.
[01:13:25]  Yeah.
[01:13:25]  And you know you can't stop it.
[01:13:27]  Yeah, there's nothing to do with it.
[01:13:28]  And it's just, oh no, this is gonna crash.
[01:13:30]  It is really interesting sometimes to watch people speak what they think is the same language.
[01:13:37]  You know, like, all of you, how is it, it is so interesting.
[01:13:42]  That people can have a conversation that ostensibly appears from the outside to make sense, and yet be speaking completely different languages.
[01:13:51]  And that's kind of one of the reasons why when I was listening to this initially, I was like, this interview is just kind of boring.
[01:13:58]  But I think based on the way Alex behaves after the interview, this is an important interview for him.
[01:14:04]  This is like landmark stuff.
[01:14:07]  It is.
[01:14:08]  It is like, if you can imagine, like I imagine, And going to an alien planet a billion light years away, you land on there and you can talk to everyone and it sounds like you're having a perfectly normal conversation in every possible way, and yet everything that happens is completely wrong.
[01:14:26]  And it's like, no, it is just a complete coincidence that the sounds they're making are similar to the ones that you think are worth.
[01:14:35]  Now here's the real question.
[01:14:36]  If Conrad had had a babblefish in his ear, would he have been able to translate this?
[01:14:41]  That's a good question.
[01:14:42]  Because it's the same language, technically.
[01:14:44]  I don't think it would work.
[01:14:45]  Does the babblefish understand implied meaning?
[01:14:48]  You're the Adams guy, I don't know.
[01:14:50]  It has to include idioms.
[01:14:53]  Probably.
[01:14:54]  We'll see.
[01:14:54]  But does it include smug sarcasm and fake politeness?
[01:15:00]  From the point of view of someone confident in their absolute...
[01:15:05]  Nonsensical world to you.
[01:15:07]  So as the interview has come to an end, Alex decides, man, I'm going to congratulate the shit out of myself for this.
[01:15:13]  Yeah, well, I'll pat myself on the back.
[01:15:13]  Just an absolutely incredible interview.
[01:15:16]  And I told you, year after year, they're going to have it as a status symbol to get in certain bars, to get in amusement parks, and then to do anything to travel, you're going to have to have it.
[01:15:26]  And here is one of the minions at an implantation center.
[01:15:29]  They're setting up at the bar.
[01:15:31]  They've already implanted a bunch of the patrons.
[01:15:36]  The CEO telling Mr. Chase, oh yes, we're going to have this global ID, and this is going to be the system, and everybody's going to have this.
[01:15:45]  And I said, oh, so in a few years to get in the club, you'll have to have the chip.
[01:15:48]  And he said, oh yes, I see that happening.
[01:15:50]  Oh yes, it's wonderful.
[01:15:51]  Oh, this will stop war.
[01:15:52]  Oh, globally, everyone having the chip.
[01:15:56]  That's the plan.
[01:15:57]  That's what the military said in 2000.
[01:16:00]  But when you watch the nightly news, oh, it's for the old people, the young people, the foreigners, the criminals.
[01:16:05]  Wait, what?
[01:16:05]  We talked about the Italian government starting to sign up to get it, to put it in their government workers.
[01:16:11]  See, the police are going to have to do it first.
[01:16:13]  And then they'll say, hey, if I have to do it, you've got to do it.
[01:16:16]  Cops, you better say no.
[01:16:18]  Is that how that works?
[01:16:18]  Special Forces has been told they're about to get the chip.
[01:16:22]  This is the new America.
[01:16:23]  This is the new world, our new global system.
[01:16:26]  And I mentioned to him, you know, the...
[01:16:28]  I mean, it's Chinese-owned part of it, and they have the factory over in China.
[01:16:31]  He goes, oh, yes, yes, the factory in Beijing.
[01:16:34]  Oh, yes.
[01:16:34]  Oh, yes, the factory.
[01:16:35]  Oh, the factory.
[01:16:36]  And they use Applied Digital as the front IBM really owns.
[01:16:39]  The company owns the majority of it.
[01:16:40]  What?
[01:16:42]  Owns the debt on it, because IBM doesn't want to run around saying take the chip, global ID.
[01:16:46]  Why not?
[01:16:48]  Because IBM has some problems there.
[01:16:51]  Aren't they doing Deep Blue right around now?
[01:16:53]  Their biggest contracts were with the Nazis.
[01:16:55]  You may have heard of them.
[01:16:57]  You might have heard of them.
[01:16:58]  So that's why IBM can't do this.
[01:17:00]  We're doing IBM Nazis, eh?
[01:17:01]  Yeah, apparently.
[01:17:02]  All right.
[01:17:02]  So there's an interesting dynamic here, because Alex isn't really lying that much about what happened in the interview.
[01:17:08]  Sure.
[01:17:08]  He's fudging a bunch of the details and adding his own spin onto everything, but for the most part, he's repeating things that were said in the interview.
[01:17:15]  Yeah.
[01:17:16]  Like, for instance, he says that the CEO of Verichip said that there was going to be a world ID, and that's not really totally accurate, but also not made up.
[01:17:23]  Right.
[01:17:24]  Conrad said that he spoke with the vice president of Verichip and they both thought it had an application as a passport replacement The issue here is a disconnect in what's being discussed Conrad and this VIP are promoting their businesses They believe that there's a massive potential for this technology to be used in all kinds of ways Which would further their bottom lines and make them a bunch of money They aren't announcing a new world order plot to chip everyone, starting with having a couple people in Barcelona make it look cool.
[01:17:49]  But that's what Alex is going with.
[01:17:52]  They're announcing this as their plan for a world idea, as opposed to...
[01:17:57]  Their business would make a lot of money if they were able to do that.
[01:17:59]  Yeah.
[01:18:00]  Yeah, I think that's what I'm coming back to.
[01:18:04]  All right?
[01:18:05]  I don't think with our big bads being Klaus Schwab and...
[01:18:09]  I mean, Soros isn't even up there anymore, right?
[01:18:12]  No, he comes up periodically.
[01:18:13]  Okay.
[01:18:14]  He's still up there.
[01:18:15]  Especially with the DAs and stuff.
[01:18:16]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:18:17]  You're right.
[01:18:17]  You're right.
[01:18:18]  So Soros is back there.
[01:18:19]  He's diminished, but he's ascendant.
[01:18:21]  Right.
[01:18:21]  But here's what I'm saying.
[01:18:23]  If the plan...
[01:18:24]  People are on the Eat the Bugs tip.
[01:18:27]  They're not on the Baja Beach Club tip.
[01:18:30]  You don't know that.
[01:18:31]  You can't do both.
[01:18:32]  But you heard those songs, those Schwab parody songs.
[01:18:35]  You can see that playing at a Baja Beach Club.
[01:18:38]  See people shaking their ass to eat the bugs.
[01:18:44]  It's very easy to imagine.
[01:18:46]  Now the kids are going to find that cool.
[01:18:48]  That is what's going to get the kids going.
[01:18:51]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:18:51]  Those are the adopted kids right there.
[01:18:53]  So, are you afraid of microchips?
[01:18:56]  Oh, obviously.
[01:18:57]  I'm going to make you a little more afraid of them.
[01:18:59]  Okay.
[01:18:59]  And by the way, yesterday we posted a new microchip that is a swastika, and the company's called Matrix.
[01:19:06]  It's a Carloff Group-owned company.
[01:19:08]  I went ahead and went to their website and researched their corporate filings, and one of the heads of the Carloff Group heads up Matrix, a Carloff Group company.
[01:19:19]  It's a chip that's a swastika, and it's called, the company's called Matrix, and it's owned by the Carlyle Group, and was founded by members of the National Security Agency.
[01:19:30]  And I just knew in the last segment with this bar manager that he would have some NSA work in his past, and when I asked, guess what he did?
[01:19:41]  My goodness, what a surprise!
[01:19:44]  He didn't say that.
[01:19:45]  He did not say that.
[01:19:46]  He said it wasn't even...
[01:19:49]  He said it wasn't...
[01:19:50]  Top secret, but I still shouldn't be talking about it.
[01:19:53]  Yeah.
[01:19:54]  Various methods for, like, battlefield communication.
[01:19:57]  Obviously you wouldn't be able to reveal a lot of that information.
[01:20:00]  It's not phones anymore.
[01:20:01]  That's what I can reveal.
[01:20:03]  Yeah.
[01:20:03]  So Alex is lying about Conrad's military history.
[01:20:06]  We played that clip earlier, but all Conrad said that he was in communications.
[01:20:09]  It was Alex that accused him of working for the NSA, but that was never established.
[01:20:13]  But apparently it's fact now.
[01:20:15]  And see, one of the reasons that I think that this is a really valuable thing to go over is you can see See the way that the information in the interview is being recontextualized for Alex's purposes immediately.
[01:20:26]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:20:26]  So they didn't get into specifics, but Conrad was in the U.S. Army Signal Corps, not the NSA.
[01:20:32]  He was also, like I said, a contestant on Gran Hermano and was in the Dutch Bowie Band called the Baja Boys, but no sign he was in the NSA.
[01:20:40]  Alex is telling the audience that because it helps make this narrative work, that this guy was essentially speaking for the government, popularizing their plans to make everyone get chipped.
[01:20:49]  This Matrix microchip thing is about a company called Matrix, but it's spelled with a C-S.
[01:20:53]  There are a couple people on the board with ties to the Carlyle Group, so Alex has just decided to report that they're a subsidiary of the Carlyle Group, because why not?
[01:21:00]  It's fucking simple.
[01:21:02]  I went to look at the InfoWars article about this to find a picture of the chip, and it kind of looks like a swastika, but I think Alex might be making more out of this than is merited.
[01:21:10]  That being said, as it turns out, around this time, some researchers were finding that the swastika shape worked really well for microchips.
[01:21:17]  Oh my god, I swear to you!
[01:21:18]  I was laughing my ass off because I was imagining a world where everybody's like, fuck!
[01:21:23]  Swastikas make the best computer chips!
[01:21:25]  I'm not sure if it's the best, but people were saying that it was very good around this time.
[01:21:30]  According to an article from the World Jewish Congress, an optical engineer at Southampton University had found that the symbol has, quote, the perfect geometry for twisting light in a way that can encode information.
[01:21:42]  God damn it!
[01:21:43]  That's too funny!
[01:21:44]  Yeah.
[01:21:44]  It's too funny!
[01:21:45]  So it may well be that this matrix chip had some...

=== Chip And Throwing Star (01:35) ===

[01:21:48]  Passing similarity to a swastika for that reason, but it's not actually a swastika.
[01:21:53]  But, yeah, it is an unfortunate reality that in order for it to encode information, you bad light.
[01:21:59]  Of all the things.
[01:22:03]  That a thousand years from now, some historian would have to say the idea that one of them is like, Nazis put technology back a couple of decades because people just couldn't get over the fact that swastikas worked so well.
[01:22:17]  That's amazing.
[01:22:18]  I might be, you know...
[01:22:20]  I'm not saying that this is true.
[01:22:21]  I'm just saying that, theoretically, that is hilarious.
[01:22:24]  What I'm here to say is that I think that the chip itself looks a bit more like a throwing star than a swastika.
[01:22:31]  Yeah, that's great.
[01:22:32]  That's fine.
[01:22:33]  But, anyway, Alex comes back from break and he is just so thrilled with himself.
[01:22:38]  Well, yeah, obviously.
[01:22:39]  Hands down.
[01:22:41]  The interview I just did with the director of the Baja Beach Disco Bars, big 2,500 palatial clubs with the half-naked dancing girls at the big resorts around the world.
[01:22:51]  You don't know this!
[01:22:52]  That has to be the most revealing, wicked interview we've ever done.
[01:22:57]  Oh, I talked to the CEO where we'll all be getting our global identification chip.
[01:23:02]  To have a gun, you'll have the chip.
[01:23:03]  Oh, the troops all need the chip.
[01:23:05]  If you want to be a VIP in our club, you've got to have the chip.

=== Confirmation Bias Revealed (15:46) ===

[01:23:08]  Oh, I see a time in the future when you'll have to have the chip to come in our club.
[01:23:12]  Oh, oh, it's such a VIP thing to have the tracker chip.
[01:23:19]  We're going to post that interview at prisonplanet.com and infowars.com by tomorrow.
[01:23:24]  And I'm begging our listeners to do the transcripts.
[01:23:26]  Do a transcript of this interview immediately.
[01:23:29]  Tens of millions of people will then read it.
[01:23:32]  Oh, my God.
[01:23:33]  We can post it on the website.
[01:23:34]  Help us get the word out.
[01:23:36]  It's just absolutely incredible.
[01:23:38]  That interview, because I sat there sucking him in, agreeing with him.
[01:23:41]  No shit.
[01:23:41]  He just came right out with it.
[01:23:43]  I mean, all of you are going to take the chip.
[01:23:45]  You're insane.
[01:23:46]  To travel.
[01:23:47]  Truly insane.
[01:23:48]  To buy and sell your microchip in your hand.
[01:23:52]  So Alex is right that he managed to do an interview that's illustrated that a guy who runs a bar in Barcelona is in favor of all of these applications for microchip technology.
[01:24:00]  What he actually failed to do is show that this is a plan that anyone has, or that this bar owner believing this means anything.
[01:24:07]  It's a victory for Alex, but from my vantage point, it seems like a hollow victory.
[01:24:11]  He has all the appearances of a big gotcha, but I don't think any of it matters.
[01:24:16]  This bar got a few people to get RFID chips voluntarily for their VIP program, and then they abandoned the program a few years later.
[01:24:23]  It didn't make getting chips into the coolest thing ever, and the kids aren't all secretly getting chips behind their parents.
[01:24:28]  That would have been 2008.
[01:24:34]  Yeah.
[01:24:36]  Alex succeeded in tricking a bar owner into saying exactly the things he needed someone to say.
[01:24:41]  But everything else around this he's super wrong about.
[01:24:44]  And it's just...
[01:24:45]  I don't know.
[01:24:46]  Here's what I'm getting from this.
[01:24:48]  It's hollow.
[01:24:48]  Here's what I'm getting from this.
[01:24:49]  I am getting that moderation is best.
[01:24:54]  You know?
[01:24:55]  Like, here's what's going on.
[01:24:57]  I feel like this is a great way to engage with having done a boring interview.
[01:25:02]  You know?
[01:25:03]  Like, listen.
[01:25:04]  I actually think it's kind of interesting that he's got a VIP room that's also chipped.
[01:25:09]  That's kind of interesting.
[01:25:10]  That's a novel.
[01:25:11]  That's a little fun.
[01:25:11]  You know, fine.
[01:25:12]  Whatever.
[01:25:14]  But to elevate it into like, oh, this is a secret.
[01:25:17]  You know, that's more fun.
[01:25:18]  That's more exciting.
[01:25:19]  Yes.
[01:25:20]  I get it.
[01:25:21]  That's great for radio.
[01:25:23]  Moderation.
[01:25:23]  Keep it here.
[01:25:24]  Keep it there.
[01:25:26]  When you get addicted to this type of shit, then we get where we are now.
[01:25:30]  You want to go like one standard derivation over, not two.
[01:25:33]  Yeah, yeah, man.
[01:25:35]  It's just that escalation problem.
[01:25:37]  But I also think that what you're describing cuts both ways.
[01:25:41]  Because I think that he, Conrad, was a little bit...
[01:25:44]  Too into a lot of this technology.
[01:25:45]  He was a little bit too into it.
[01:25:46]  I agree.
[01:25:47]  I agree with you very strongly.
[01:25:49]  And Alex is a little too into his Mark of the Beast conspiracies.
[01:25:53]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:25:54]  Moderation is the place in between those two.
[01:25:56]  Moderation in all things.
[01:25:58]  Yeah.
[01:25:58]  It's just how often that continually turns out to be true is very frustrating.
[01:26:04]  Yeah.
[01:26:04]  So another thing I'd like to moderate is Alex's impressions.
[01:26:08]  Oh, no.
[01:26:09]  He's going to do a lot of impressions.
[01:26:10]  Oh, no.
[01:26:10]  In a short version?
[01:26:11]  Yeah.
[01:26:12]  We need to trust our government.
[01:26:14]  We need to do what they say.
[01:26:17]  We need to love them.
[01:26:18]  I mean, did you hear all that?
[01:26:19]  It was like listening to a demon, a simpering, you know, sweet mouth.
[01:26:27]  And I go, oh, you're in the military.
[01:26:31]  Oh, yes, I was in the military, and you were in some classified, was it communications?
[01:26:35]  I mean, I knew that.
[01:26:37]  Well, I can't talk about it.
[01:26:39]  Oh, were you in the NSA?
[01:26:40]  Well, I can't talk about it.
[01:26:42]  How did I know that?
[01:26:44]  That wasn't the answer to the NSA question.
[01:26:46]  You decided it in advance, but it wasn't the answer to the NSA question.
[01:26:52]  But Alex has just decided that it was because it makes it seem more like the answer is yes, which is what Alex has decided no matter what.
[01:26:59]  Yeah.
[01:27:00]  Oh, God.
[01:27:01]  How did I know that?
[01:27:02]  See?
[01:27:03]  Again, moderation.
[01:27:04]  That's too far.
[01:27:06]  You don't know that.
[01:27:07]  You could have said, man, that's an interesting guess.
[01:27:12]  Maybe that's true.
[01:27:14]  It's still not, and it's not an interesting guess.
[01:27:17]  Alex also asked him if he's in the NSA.
[01:27:19]  He didn't understand the question.
[01:27:21]  He said, what?
[01:27:23]  Totally.
[01:27:23]  And then Alex didn't rephrase that question or reframe that question because he didn't actually want an answer to that.
[01:27:28]  He wanted to have asked this guy this question.
[01:27:31]  Right.
[01:27:32]  It's for the audience.
[01:27:33]  Totally.
[01:27:33]  It's a wink to the audience.
[01:27:35]  It's like, hey, I'm accusing this guy.
[01:27:36]  Absolutely.
[01:27:37]  And you stick there.
[01:27:39]  You don't go that extra step to saying, actually, I can see the future.
[01:27:43]  I am a God-touched genius who is capable of understanding.
[01:27:47]  No, no, no.
[01:27:47]  Hold on to those thoughts.
[01:27:48]  He's a God-touched...
[01:27:49]  There's going to be more of that.
[01:27:51]  So Alex gets back to the subject of the chipmobile.
[01:27:55]  A big story, and I'm going to cover this, then we'll get to your calls, is from Infowars.com, directly from ADSX.com, or Applied Digital Solutions' stock website.
[01:28:07]  And the embedded microchip seller, Verichip, announces chipmobile.
[01:28:11]  It's on the move.
[01:28:12]  Watch for the chipmobile coming to your town.
[01:28:14]  Hey, kids.
[01:28:16]  So much for the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.
[01:28:18]  The beast system is here, and Verichip has announced that the chipmobile is on the move.
[01:28:22]  That's a quote.
[01:28:23]  It looks like a swastika.
[01:28:25]  There when you need us.
[01:28:27]  That's a different chip that looks like a swastika.
[01:28:29]  The chipmobile looks like a swastika.
[01:28:31]  Oh, man.
[01:28:32]  Too funny.
[01:28:32]  So how much of that do you think was a quote?
[01:28:35]  I think Verichip's promotional material had, hey, the Mark of the Beast system is here.
[01:28:42]  Mark of the Beast is coming to your town.
[01:28:45]  Oh, God.
[01:28:46]  I mean, man, if the devil is doing the Mark of the Beast that way, that's the best way to do it, because I'm not seeing it coming.
[01:28:55]  I'm not seeing the devil coming that way.
[01:28:57]  Cue me out on this.
[01:28:57]  Okay.
[01:28:58]  Let's pretend that the Mark of the Beast demon devil system was this chipmobile.
[01:29:04]  You fucking whiffed, devil.
[01:29:07]  What a terrible plan.
[01:29:08]  That didn't work.
[01:29:09]  There is a certain amount of somebody needs to be able to push back on the devil.
[01:29:14]  If the devil's played as the chipmobile, that means that there aren't enough people around the devil to be like, that's a shit plan, man.
[01:29:20]  Yeah, you need to fire your board or whatever because bad ideas are coming through and it's just not working.
[01:29:27]  All you accomplished is getting some senior citizenship.
[01:29:33]  So they could have better convenient access to healthcare.
[01:29:37]  They're coming to me soon!
[01:29:40]  Evil.
[01:29:41]  Oh, boy.
[01:29:42]  So, Alex does get back to the swastika microchip story.
[01:29:46]  Sure.
[01:29:46]  The Matrix company.
[01:29:48]  Right.
[01:29:48]  And, you know, you're talking about him knowing things in advance.
[01:29:52]  He kind of screams about that a little bit here.
[01:29:55]  Well, this company was called The Matrix, and my wife had posted it on InfoWars last night.
[01:30:00]  I got online with a large glass of ice water for several hours and began researching The Matrix.
[01:30:05]  What?
[01:30:06]  And it didn't take long.
[01:30:08]  Of course, before I went to it, I knew who it would be.
[01:30:10]  And sure enough, it was the National Security Agency.
[01:30:14]  Because when the chip is a swastika and the name of the company is The Matrix, I already knew.
[01:30:19]  Because I know the enemy.
[01:30:21]  I understand their control grid.
[01:30:22]  I've already followed enough of their roadmap.
[01:30:24]  I know what the next piece is.
[01:30:25]  But I never count on that.
[01:30:27]  No, no, no.
[01:30:28]  No, no, no.
[01:30:29]  I knew IBM owned Applied Digital before I went to their corporate minutes, because they're behind it all.
[01:30:34]  I mean, all of it.
[01:30:35]  I knew that it would be manufactured by the Communist Chinese military, and certainly it was.
[01:30:42]  Again, I'm not bragging.
[01:30:44]  This is the unified field theory of geopolitics.
[01:30:51]  So yeah, what Alex knew before looking up anything was that he was going to find a way to twist whatever he found into being part of his larger conspiracies.
[01:30:59]  It just so happened that one of the members of the board of Matrix, Michael Arneson, had worked for the NSA from 1979 to 1999.
[01:31:08]  Alex knew that there was a good bet that someone on the board would have a history with a government agency, so he knew that he was going to be able to hinge a conspiracy on that.
[01:31:16]  A testament to how shallowly he actually looked into any of this is if he dug a little deeper, he would have found that Matrix got funding from DARPA, which would have been a much more direct conspiracy.
[01:31:25]  Yeah, that's a great, yeah, yeah.
[01:31:26]  Why don't we go for that?
[01:31:27]  Too hard!
[01:31:28]  The same is true for the claim that he knew that IBM owned Advanced Digital Solutions before he looked it up.
[01:31:33]  He didn't know that, but he could be pretty sure that there would be some piece of investment or some association of a board member that he could twist into his narrative.
[01:31:41]  IBM didn't own ADS, but they did formerly have a loan going.
[01:31:45]  So that's confirmation of the thing that Alex went into this research knowing he'd find.
[01:31:50]  He knew he would find something he could work with.
[01:31:52]  If Alex had looked into ADS and found that Apple had given them a loan, then guess what?
[01:31:57]  He would have known that going in.
[01:31:58]  Or if one of the big banks that are so evil had given them a loan, Alex would have known that from the jump.
[01:32:03]  This is a pretty blatant example of confirmation bias in action.
[01:32:06]  Alex has this unified field theory of geopolitics, which is basically just his way of saying his narrative...
[01:32:13]  Everything he finds must comport to that narrative, so when he sits down to search out information, it magically always does.
[01:32:21]  The claim that Matrix is a Carlisle Group subsidiary is a good example.
[01:32:24]  Alex is basing that on the fact that there are two members of the board at Matrix that have ties to Carlisle.
[01:32:29]  One of them, Brooke Coburn, was at the time a managing director at Carlisle, and the other one, Mark Ein, worked there prior to 1999.
[01:32:38]  But two members of the board also have ties to another company called LCC International.
[01:32:43]  One of them, Puyash Soda, was the CEO of LCC and also the CEO of Matrix, and Mark Ein also worked at LCC.
[01:32:50]  So why isn't Matrix an LCC subsidiary?
[01:32:53]  The reason is because the audience has no idea who LCC is, whereas they've been primed with plenty of talk about the Carlyle Group due to its association with the Bush administration.
[01:33:02]  So this is the angle that you go.
[01:33:04]  Also, the company isn't The Matrix.
[01:33:06]  It's just Matrix.
[01:33:07]  And it stands for Microwave Array Technology for Reconfigurable Integrated Circuits.
[01:33:12]  The Matrix sounds cooler for the audience, though, so that's what it is.
[01:33:15]  It's The Matrix.
[01:33:17]  So yeah, I don't know.
[01:33:18]  I just find this notion that I already knew when I went in.
[01:33:23]  I already knew all this ahead of time, because I know the devil's plans.
[01:33:27]  It's just, it's a little rough.
[01:33:30]  Yeah, it is so much of a, like, I don't know, what would I call it?
[01:33:38]  It's not hindsight is 20-20-20.
[01:33:40]  I think the lesson or something to be learned from Alex is just like, when Alex was doing this, there is something that he's pointing to that is actually so valuable that we needed to address.
[01:33:53]  Which is that there are too many people who are associated with too many companies.
[01:33:59]  You know what I mean?
[01:34:00]  Oh, sure.
[01:34:00]  Revolving door type shit.
[01:34:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:34:02]  And then they're all associated with the government.
[01:34:03]  Like, that is a serious problem.
[01:34:05]  Alex is fucking it up.
[01:34:07]  Yeah.
[01:34:09]  As is the case whenever he's adjacent to a decent point, he ruins the actual criticism.
[01:34:15]  Yeah.
[01:34:16]  If he was what people attributed him to be at that time...
[01:34:22]  That ability to point at the real problem, you know, while being bombastic and entertaining, is an effective tool.
[01:34:31]  Right.
[01:34:31]  But he's not pointing at the real problem.
[01:34:33]  But he's not pointing at the real problem.
[01:34:34]  He's using the sort of optics of the real problem in order to be like, ah-ha-ha, and this is the devil's plan to microchip everyone.
[01:34:42]  Yeah.
[01:34:42]  It is not about...
[01:34:45]  Now, if you are the devil, right...
[01:34:48]  You see a spot, you see a job opening that everybody kind of needs, which is somebody to be bombastic and to tell the truth, and you put in there somebody who is almost all of those things.
[01:34:58]  Nah, disagree.
[01:35:00]  Yeah, the devil's smart.
[01:35:01]  No, Alex is just not.
[01:35:04]  I think Alex works for the devil.
[01:35:05]  So he knows all this stuff ahead of time.
[01:35:07]  Yes.
[01:35:08]  Not because he works for the devil, and the devil has given him precognitive abilities.
[01:35:10]  Fair enough.
[01:35:11]  Not because of that.
[01:35:11]  Okay.
[01:35:12]  But because he's a detective.
[01:35:13]  Okay.
[01:35:14]  Oh, and of course...
[01:35:16]  It's called The Matrix, just because they want to take good care of you always.
[01:35:22]  And again, I'm not bragging when I say I know what I'm going to read before I see it, but if you study this stuff and you know their game plan, well, it's like a cop who's been hunting after a serial killer for 20 years.
[01:35:34]  The serial killer's killed 40 people.
[01:35:35]  They found these dead women.
[01:35:37]  They found these dead men, whatever.
[01:35:39]  And the cop has seen the serial killers work so many times, when they get the call, And before he even walks into the woods to another scene, he knows what he's going to see.
[01:35:48]  I mean, that's really it.
[01:35:50]  So here I am every day.
[01:35:52]  I open the brush and walk into the woods and smell the rotten flesh.
[01:35:56]  And, well, I'm going to see their handiwork again, aren't I?
[01:35:59]  Same people, same operation, same wickedness.
[01:36:02]  And, again, that's my analogy of understanding these people.
[01:36:07]  Flaunting it in your face, throwing it in your face.
[01:36:10]  The destruction of this country and bringing in the new world order.
[01:36:14]  If Alex were like a detective and he was tracking down serial killers, he would see a calling card for a serial killer and then he would misinterpret it to be similar to another fake serial killer's calling card or something like that.
[01:36:28]  I mean, this is just ridiculous.
[01:36:29]  He's no Batman.
[01:36:30]  Or it's the government of China.
[01:36:32]  Any serial killer's calling card is actually the government of China.
[01:36:36]  Communist China.
[01:36:37]  China-ing.
[01:36:38]  Yeah.
[01:36:39]  So Alex, he's just thrilled with this interview he did.
[01:36:43]  He does seem to be very thrilled with himself.
[01:36:46]  There's so much self-congratulation.
[01:36:47]  He's very happy.
[01:36:48]  And yes, tomorrow, in one of the three hours, I'm not sure which one yet, I will re-air the most frightening, disgusting, slimy interview I have ever done.
[01:37:01]  He's just a dude, man!
[01:37:03]  We will re-enter the interview with the entity that we spoke with in the last hour, the microchip government creature who was telling us how wonderful it is and how we'll all need the chip to come in his club and how we'll all have our global chip.
[01:37:24]  He spoke with the same tongue, the same words.
[01:37:28]  As the others from this group.
[01:37:30]  So, if you listen carefully to this interview, it is the most...
[01:37:35]  I had goosebumps while this guy was talking.
[01:37:38]  To be talking to a creature like this is very, very serious.
[01:37:43]  Dehumanizing there?
[01:37:44]  Pretty explicit?
[01:37:46]  I mean, we have learned that if you want Alex to treat you nice, just be a globalist?
[01:37:52]  Say the things you want him to...
[01:37:54]  No, you have to...
[01:37:54]  If you want him to be nice to you, you have to be being used by him.
[01:37:58]  Right, right, right, right.
[01:38:00]  That's the trick.
[01:38:01]  Act like a naive globalist and Alex will be nice to you.
[01:38:05]  Yeah.
[01:38:06]  That is interesting.
[01:38:07]  If he thinks he can exploit you by being nice, you're gonna get some nice treatment.
[01:38:11]  Exploit Alex via being exploited by Alex.
[01:38:14]  I do believe he had goosebumps during it, but it was more like, I'm gonna use this.
[01:38:17]  This is gonna be so good.
[01:38:18]  I'm gonna say this is a creature.
[01:38:20]  I'm gonna have a bumper forever.
[01:38:22]  Yeah.
[01:38:23]  So most of the rest of the show is taking calls.
[01:38:25]  Sure.
[01:38:26]  About how great he is?
[01:38:27]  You bet.
[01:38:27]  Yeah!
[01:38:31]  Well, and I think that Alex has such a, he's so thrilled about this interview that he wants to riff with people about it.
[01:38:37]  Yeah, of course.
[01:38:37]  He wants to be like, do you hear when he said this?
[01:38:39]  I would have basked in this as much as possible.

=== Concerns About Implanted Chips (03:47) ===

[01:38:42]  Right.
[01:38:42]  So he takes a call and this lady brings up, hey, this isn't that safe.
[01:38:48]  Someone could kill you and take your chip.
[01:38:49]  Ooh!
[01:38:51]  And so Alex.
[01:38:52]  You are helping.
[01:38:53]  Alex does some impressions also.
[01:38:54]  Yes, and.
[01:38:55]  The thing I was wondering as I was listening to that interview, I'm opposed to this, just outraged as much as you are, but when they say there's no drawback, on an implanted chip like that, couldn't you kill someone and take the chip?
[01:39:09]  Or someone take the chip out to steal it?
[01:39:12]  Well, that's it, of course, for high-security federal employees.
[01:39:15]  The Italian government's about to make their employees, according to him, take it.
[01:39:18]  And you heard this global ID situation.
[01:39:20]  Think of all the crimes this government's committed.
[01:39:22]  Of course it's insane.
[01:39:24]  Of course it's bad.
[01:39:25]  That's why he was saying, resistance is futile.
[01:39:27]  It's wonderful.
[01:39:28]  Everyone will take it.
[01:39:29]  They're going to take it.
[01:39:30]  I mean, did you hear just the wickedness?
[01:39:32]  Oh, I did.
[01:39:33]  Yes, I did.
[01:39:34]  Did you?
[01:39:35]  Did you?
[01:39:36]  You're so good.
[01:39:36]  Just take your chip.
[01:39:39]  But all I'm saying, I still...
[01:39:40]  I expect you to go, when we came to your planet, we came here to help you.
[01:39:44]  It's for them to keep track of all of us, but I still think, what I'm saying, I still think there's ways to get around it.
[01:39:49]  Well, I'm not going to take it, and most people are against it.
[01:39:52]  They just get up on the news and act like everybody likes it.
[01:39:55]  This is all psychology.
[01:39:56]  It's wonderful.
[01:39:56]  Everyone loves it.
[01:39:57]  You need to take it.
[01:39:59]  There have been polls out.
[01:40:00]  Ninety-plus percent of people hate it.
[01:40:02]  But the more they go, everyone loves it.
[01:40:04]  All the stars love it.
[01:40:05]  All the VIPs love it.
[01:40:06]  The young people, and that's what they admit they're targeting, are going to go, yeah, it's cool.
[01:40:11]  It's counterculture.
[01:40:12]  I want it.
[01:40:13]  I want it now.
[01:40:16]  That's not bad.
[01:40:17]  Everybody's for it.
[01:40:18]  You're the kook.
[01:40:18]  But we're the majority.
[01:40:20]  We're the majority.
[01:40:21]  A lot of voices.
[01:40:22]  Yeah, that's the type of voice actor.
[01:40:23]  Number one voice actor.
[01:40:24]  I was going to say.
[01:40:25]  But Obama ruined his career.
[01:40:26]  I was going to say, that actually is pretty solid.
[01:40:29]  No, it's not.
[01:40:29]  I would buy that on a radio for like a serial.
[01:40:34]  Local ad.
[01:40:35]  Not a national.
[01:40:36]  Okay, I'm not giving him national.
[01:40:37]  That's not a syndicated ad.
[01:40:38]  No, he's not national.
[01:40:39]  That's a local serial brand.
[01:40:40]  That is a local serial ad, yes.
[01:40:42]  So yeah, I think.
[01:40:44]  I think this is a lot of fun they're having.
[01:40:48]  I think somebody could kill you and take the chip.
[01:40:51]  Good point.
[01:40:52]  I agree, ma 'am.
[01:40:53]  I agree.
[01:40:55]  Next point.
[01:40:56]  Where is this energy in the present day being directed towards Elon Musk?
[01:41:00]  I don't know.
[01:41:01]  That's what you really need to ask yourself as you see the intensity of Alex's feelings about anything involving chips.
[01:41:07]  Yeah, it does lay bare truly.
[01:41:11]  Living in 2024, how much of our lives we thought people cared about behavior, when in reality it was just who was doing it.
[01:41:18]  Or they cared about the thing.
[01:41:20]  Yeah.
[01:41:20]  As opposed to, yeah.
[01:41:22]  Yeah, you and I, I thought this whole time, I was like, doing a thing is the problem.
[01:41:27]  And ha ha, no, the problem is who is doing the thing.
[01:41:30]  It's that simple for people?
[01:41:32]  It apparently is.
[01:41:34]  Amazing.
[01:41:34]  And I think that, you know, if you're not cognizant of it...
[01:41:37]  You can fall into those traps yourself.
[01:41:39]  Well, yeah.
[01:41:40]  I mean, if you think you know when everybody's lying to you, you're going to get lied to.
[01:41:45]  Yeah, you believe it.
[01:41:46]  So Alex wants, obviously, these calls to be about this bombshell interview that he just did.
[01:41:52]  Right, right, right.
[01:41:52]  But unfortunately, some of them aren't.
[01:41:54]  Oh, no.
[01:41:55]  And some of them might be a bit troubling.
[01:41:57]  No!
[01:41:58]  Alex, you're familiar with it.
[01:41:59]  Last year, about this time, through your listeners on your show, I was thrown into, well, I was thrown, because I believed all the things that you claimed.
[01:42:07]  You're getting distracted.
[01:42:08]  Stay focused.
[01:42:09]  Come on, man.
[01:42:09]  I was thrown into the nut house, because I was allegedly nuts, because I was paranoid, because I couldn't disprove the competent evidence that you and other people had produced about who really did 9-1-1, what was really going on, the fact that there's a globalist takeover and that there's a mass genocide is ultimately the agenda of these satanic worshipping.

=== Real World Matches (02:20) ===

[01:42:28]  Abominable, super-rich, the global banking cartel and all the stooges who are doing their bidding.
[01:42:35]  But at any rate, the long and short of it is that we remember that through your listeners almost just knocking out the whole circuit on the mental health hospital, we got out of there in a matter of days.
[01:42:45]  Well, we had this happen again recently by someone who did a lot of 911 work.
[01:42:50]  Did you escape?
[01:42:50]  We've just seen the abuses in the court system where people get rid of the problem.
[01:42:53]  Yeah, it's the new Soviet Union where you criticize the government, you're crazy, and they arrest you.
[01:42:57]  Exactly.
[01:42:58]  You don't like the microchip.
[01:43:00]  You're crazy.
[01:43:01]  We've got to put you in the nut house.
[01:43:04]  Hey, Alex, did you not hear the part where he's very clearly, like, anti-Semitic?
[01:43:09]  Did you not hear that very loud horn that he talked?
[01:43:12]  Oh, you mean the goyim?
[01:43:14]  I feel like that is a piece of this that Alex is just conveniently ignoring.
[01:43:18]  Let's not think about that.
[01:43:19]  And this guy, as best I can tell, because obviously it's just a first name and a state, so I can't look into what actually happened to this person.
[01:43:29]  Maybe not, but I would guess that his loved ones probably had him locked up in a hospital because he was...
[01:43:36]  Going a little bit off.
[01:43:38]  And, you know, in those situations, you can't hold people for very long without cause.
[01:43:46]  Yeah.
[01:43:46]  And so maybe a bunch of Infowars listeners called that hospital and it just so happened that also the hold that he was under.
[01:43:53]  Yeah.
[01:43:54]  You know, this is the kind of thing that I can see in the real world matching the details of his story.
[01:44:00]  But instead, the way it's interpreted is...
[01:44:02]  I was too onto the real shit.
[01:44:03]  I couldn't disprove this stuff, so everyone thought I was crazy, and so I got put in a hospital, and then your listeners called, and they demanded my freedom.
[01:44:14]  Yeah.
[01:44:15]  Alex should not be humoring this.
[01:44:17]  Yeah, no, that's really fucked up.
[01:44:21]  Because, as somebody who's aware of these very specific things for me, it's voluntary.
[01:44:29]  And if it's not, it is very not.
[01:44:32]  Yeah.
[01:44:32]  It is very not.

=== Dictatorship Risks? (02:51) ===

[01:44:33]  But when it's very not, it still, in most states, is not something that can last very long.
[01:44:39]  Right, right, right, right.
[01:44:40]  And so if he was put in somewhere involuntarily, you could be out in a few days.
[01:44:46]  That's true.
[01:44:47]  That is true.
[01:44:48]  Yeah.
[01:44:48]  Oh, man.
[01:44:49]  So we get another caller who's a little bit less troubling.
[01:44:52]  Okay, that's good.
[01:44:53]  He wants to know, what are the odds...
[01:44:55]  That Bush is going to install himself as the dictator over America.
[01:44:59]  And I had a question for you because I was kind of concerned after watching 9-11, The Road to Tyranny.
[01:45:06]  And after watching that, I could see how Bush is using the same format like what Hitler did and others to take control of the country.
[01:45:16]  And my question was, is that I'm worried that what if he decides to let some massive event happen?
[01:45:24]  Well, they won't let an event take place.
[01:45:28]  They'll engage in it.
[01:45:30]  Yeah, suppose that he does that, right?
[01:45:32]  And then he suspends the elections and everything to keep himself in power, you know, for, and I don't know how long of a time he could do that for, but I understand he has the power or the ability to do that.
[01:45:42]  And then he could, you know, proclaim himself as the dictator for this country, just like that.
[01:45:48]  I mean, what are the chances, do you think, of something like that happening?
[01:45:54]  very good chance that's going to happen.
[01:45:55]  100%.
[01:45:57]  Government plans, declassified documents to bomb D.C., to commit sniper attacks, to hijack jets by remote control and crash them, killing people, or staging fake crashes as a pretext I have misrepresentations of Operation Northwoods, and therefore, there's a good chance that Bush is going to do a giant false flag in order to become the dictator by canceling the 2004 elections, which we know happened, and then four years later, all kids are being microchipped because it's cool, because...
[01:46:25]  Donnie D, the Mac G rapper, has made it cool.
[01:46:29]  And it all comes back to this fucking Baja Beach Club.
[01:46:33]  This is the perfect moment, though, truly, for Alex to have that, like, all right, well, here's what you would do to steal the election, all right?
[01:46:42]  You would claim that the election results were stolen and that they weren't real.
[01:46:46]  Then you would have a faithless electorate slate go to the day, and then you, on January 6th, that would be a great day to do it.
[01:46:51]  January 6th!
[01:46:52]  That's the number one day to do it!
[01:46:54]  It would be great.
[01:46:56]  That would be fun.
[01:46:56]  But instead, what we get is Alex having an impotent prediction of something that doesn't come to pass that he seems very confident about.
[01:47:05]  Seems to be a trend.
[01:47:06]  So this caller, though, he wants to know, what's the time frame for the next thing where the globalists are going to attack?

=== Plugging Holes in the Narrative (09:28) ===

[01:47:13]  Don't we all?
[01:47:14]  Well...
[01:47:15]  Isn't that really the question?
[01:47:17]  Tell me when and what to do!
[01:47:19]  You can't.
[01:47:21]  Well, Alex, what timeline do you give this thing?
[01:47:24]  Like, when is it too late for people to wake up and actually do something about this?
[01:47:27]  We've been fighting the globalists so successfully that whereas two years ago they had a time frame to carry out more terror by now, big events here in the U.S., not pinpricks around the world, not a pinprick if you die, but comparatively speaking that's what they call it, just their scare tactics, they would have already engaged in bigger events.
[01:47:45]  Right now I think they're trying to address things, they're trying to study.
[01:47:50]  They're kind of like deer in the headlights.
[01:47:51]  Things aren't going as they thought it would.
[01:47:54]  There's a massive awakening that's already taking place, so they're even in a way more dangerous right now, but overall that's good because now they're a little more ham-fisted and making a lot bigger mistakes.
[01:48:05]  So we've got them on the defensive right now, but we're in the 12th round of a heavyweight battle here.
[01:48:11]  Oh man, that sounds like the present day.
[01:48:14]  Isn't it always this?
[01:48:15]  The globalists are panicking.
[01:48:17]  There are a deer in the headlights.
[01:48:18]  I've managed to, because of my wild victories, I've been able to make it so they haven't attacked yet.
[01:48:25]  This is just constant.
[01:48:27]  I made a point on our last episode about a 2024 episode that the globalists are always seeming to be in this state.
[01:48:36]  Here we are in 2004.
[01:48:38]  It's all the same.
[01:48:39]  It's always the fucking same.
[01:48:40]  I know there is a video game.
[01:48:43]  Uh, that is about Alex or whatever.
[01:48:45]  Yeah, I've heard about that.
[01:48:46]  But if I was going to make one, here's what it is, alright?
[01:48:48]  It's just a timer, alright?
[01:48:50]  And it's like, till the globalists.
[01:48:53]  And then, you know, ten seconds, right?
[01:48:54]  And you got Alex in the middle of the screen, and you just walk around, and if you find a booze juice, you get an extra ten seconds.
[01:49:02]  That is the entire game.
[01:49:04]  I was thinking of a conceptual framework where it's like, uh-oh, you're...
[01:49:07]  Narrative doesn't make sense.
[01:49:09]  Sure.
[01:49:09]  And then you have to weave through a puzzle.
[01:49:12]  Okay.
[01:49:13]  Bend yourself into situations to plug up the holes in the narrative.
[01:49:16]  So like snake butt Alex fits in there.
[01:49:18]  But you're plugging the holes in the narrative.
[01:49:20]  I see what you're saying.
[01:49:21]  I like that.
[01:49:22]  I don't know how to design a video game.
[01:49:24]  Neither do I. So we get another caller, and they ask, hey.
[01:49:28]  You talk a lot about how they're going to bring back the draft.
[01:49:30]  Sure.
[01:49:31]  When's that happening?
[01:49:31]  Yeah, again.
[01:49:32]  When do you think that they're going to initiate the draft?
[01:49:34]  Well, they've got a total of 11 different bills.
[01:49:38]  It was nine.
[01:49:39]  Now there's two more in both the House and Senate.
[01:49:40]  You should only need one, really.
[01:49:41]  And it's a universal draft.
[01:49:42]  The draft is back.
[01:49:43]  And some are 18 to 49, some are 18 to 26. Different versions, and they're lined up to pass now.
[01:49:50]  I would think after the next big attack that they'll pass a universal draft and we'll all start becoming their slaves.
[01:49:56]  So thank you for the call.
[01:49:57]  We'll be right back.
[01:49:58]  Oh, that's a condescending-ass tone.
[01:50:00]  It's always the next one.
[01:50:03]  It's always there's going to be the draft after the next one.
[01:50:05]  And, you know, I guess you could always argue that whatever happens isn't actually the next one.
[01:50:10]  Even though Alex believes that all of these, like, mass shootings and all of these acts have been globalist false flags.
[01:50:19]  So, shouldn't the next one have happened?
[01:50:21]  And, I mean, even, like, you could call natural disasters, Hurricane Katrina.
[01:50:25]  Absolutely.
[01:50:26]  You know, these are all things that have happened since 2004.
[01:50:29]  Mm-hmm.
[01:50:30]  But no, the next one, it didn't do it.
[01:50:33]  But then the next one will.
[01:50:34]  Nope.
[01:50:34]  But then the next one.
[01:50:35]  Yep.
[01:50:36]  Next one.
[01:50:36]  Next one's gonna be the draft.
[01:50:38]  Yeah.
[01:50:38]  It's happening.
[01:50:38]  It's happening.
[01:50:39]  It's right around the corner.
[01:50:40]  Yeah, man.
[01:50:41]  It's dark.
[01:50:42]  Yeah, that's the bleak picture that you get looking at the past.
[01:50:45]  It is very bleak looking at the past.
[01:50:47]  So Alex is a little bit frustrated because some of these callers have been plugging things.
[01:50:51]  And that is a little bit annoying.
[01:50:55]  And yes, I want to take your calls.
[01:50:57]  And I'm not trying to sound irritable earlier when I'm like, man, the plug-in's got to stop.
[01:51:00]  But you saw it, like three, four callers in a row.
[01:51:03]  I mean, it's like, come on, folks.
[01:51:06]  It's just, that's not good radio.
[01:51:08]  And I'm here.
[01:51:09]  Tell the truth, get the information out, and try to make it interesting in the presentation.
[01:51:16]  And, you know, that's why this show is, oh boy, has the great distinction of being the number one Christian patriot talk show in the country.
[01:51:24]  Because I don't descend into plugging endlessly.
[01:51:27]  I don't descend into fighting with other patriots, which is the favorite pastime of all the failures out there.
[01:51:33]  And I wish they'd get themselves together and move forward against the new world order.
[01:51:37]  We don't do that.
[01:51:38]  Here on this broadcast.
[01:51:41]  We fight the globalists.
[01:51:42]  We expose the evil.
[01:51:43]  And I'm surprised that more callers, frankly, aren't concerned about that interview in the last hour.
[01:51:49]  That is notable.
[01:51:52]  No!
[01:51:53]  You're crazy!
[01:51:54]  There is nothing to worry about!
[01:51:58]  Yeah, I mean, soon when you come in our club, you'll have to have the microchip.
[01:52:02]  When I pressed him on, he said, well, maybe not.
[01:52:04]  I mean, that was chilling stuff.
[01:52:06]  Buy and sell, you gotta have a microchip.
[01:52:08]  I think we've heard this before.
[01:52:12]  Mark of the Beast, guys!
[01:52:13]  Come on!
[01:52:14]  Okay, here's my pitch.
[01:52:15]  Alright.
[01:52:17]  Time Machine?
[01:52:18]  Obviously.
[01:52:19]  We've got one.
[01:52:20]  We need to grab an Alex from January 1st of 1994 to Alex January 1st, 2024.
[01:52:31]  We get one every year.
[01:52:33]  Like a This Is Your Life?
[01:52:34]  And then we have the Royal Rumble.
[01:52:36]  Oh.
[01:52:37]  They have to fight it out.
[01:52:39]  30 Alexes from 30 years apart.
[01:52:43]  Each one has a completely different axe to grind with the others because they disagree on everything.
[01:52:49]  If you allow that old jacked Alex, he's going to win.
[01:52:52]  That old, that when he was a muscle builder.
[01:52:56]  When he was super ripped?
[01:52:57]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:52:57]  I think he's going to win.
[01:52:58]  Well, okay.
[01:52:58]  Unless it's kayfabe.
[01:52:59]  We seed it.
[01:53:00]  We seed it.
[01:53:00]  Are you talking about a shoot Royal Rumble where they're actually fighting?
[01:53:04]  I mean, yeah.
[01:53:05]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:53:05]  Well, then the young one's going to win.
[01:53:07]  Yeah.
[01:53:07]  But how are you going to get current day Alex over the top rope?
[01:53:10]  But here's what I'm saying, all right?
[01:53:11]  So the older ones, they're going to team up on the younger one, right, though?
[01:53:15]  Because some of the older ones have to agree with each other on stuff.
[01:53:18]  But some of the younger ones agree with each other, too.
[01:53:20]  Actually, I disagree.
[01:53:21]  I agree.
[01:53:22]  I say all of them kill the hottest one immediately.
[01:53:25]  And it has nothing to do with politics.
[01:53:27]  They just hate being unattractive so much that they kill the pretty one.
[01:53:33]  I think that's against the rules of a Royal Rumble.
[01:53:35]  Murder?
[01:53:36]  Yeah.
[01:53:36]  I think it is interesting to note, though, in that clip.
[01:53:39]  That Alex considers the genre of his show Christian Patriot Talk Radio.
[01:53:43]  That branding is slippery.
[01:53:45]  It's different.
[01:53:46]  It's also interesting how much this 2004 Alex would hate who he becomes.
[01:53:50]  He's opposed to constant plugs, and his show devolves into desperate sales pitches for supplements just years from this point.
[01:53:58]  He's against infighting among patriots, and then he gets constantly obsessed with fighting with people like Glenn Beck.
[01:54:03]  Like, honestly...
[01:54:05]  I don't know if his show is actually against plugging or infighting.
[01:54:08]  Yeah.
[01:54:09]  But his branding at this point makes it more believable when he says that it is.
[01:54:14]  Yeah.
[01:54:14]  But it also feels weird that Alex is just coming out and saying that he's not getting the response that he wants from his interview.
[01:54:19]  I suspect it's because he was so polite and nice with this guy that it probably bored most of the audience.
[01:54:25]  They're probably listening to it and like, ah, what's going on, yeah.
[01:54:28]  They didn't get it the same exact way.
[01:54:31]  He didn't get it.
[01:54:32]  Yeah, Alex can yell about it being proof of the mark of the beast now, and that's exciting.
[01:54:36]  But the interview itself probably didn't move the needle for most of the people.
[01:54:40]  Yeah.
[01:54:40]  It was a boring interview, even though after the fact you can do the voices.
[01:54:44]  But when he's giving the interview, the guy sounds like a regular-ass dude.
[01:54:49]  How do you do, sir?
[01:54:50]  Who owns the fucking bar?
[01:54:51]  Your fabulous club has a bunch of specials.
[01:54:54]  But yeah, and then later on you can be like, he said I'm from the NSA.
[01:54:58]  But in the real interview, he's like, no, I wasn't there.
[01:55:01]  I did some stuff.
[01:55:03]  The existence of the interview has enough of the...
[01:55:07]  Pieces that Alex needs to do the presentation later.
[01:55:11]  Right.
[01:55:11]  But the interview on its own isn't as nefarious as Alex wants it to be.
[01:55:15]  Right.
[01:55:15]  The yelling about it later is.
[01:55:17]  But he's mistaking the fact that he can use it later with the interview itself actually being useful.
[01:55:23]  Yes.
[01:55:24]  Yeah.
[01:55:24]  But it, yeah.
[01:55:25]  Yeah.
[01:55:25]  So Alex gets another call, and this guy, he seems like he's amenable to Alex.
[01:55:30]  Sure.
[01:55:30]  So Alex is like, come on, man, let's talk about that interview.
[01:55:32]  Let's do it.
[01:55:33]  Yeah.
[01:55:33]  Did you hear that first hour interview?
[01:55:36]  I did.
[01:55:36]  It was chilling.
[01:55:37]  I couldn't even believe it.
[01:55:38]  Well, globally, we're all going to have our chips.
[01:55:42]  He just thought it was so great that we're all going to be chipped, and isn't that special, and we don't have to pay money anymore?
[01:55:49]  Simon, why did you hear this quote, quote, the chip will prevail in the future?
[01:55:55]  Yeah, I couldn't believe that.
[01:55:56]  No, it will prevail.
[01:55:59]  And the guy just seemed almost giddy and brainwashed how cool it was.
[01:56:03]  No, no, that's all training as a Verichip subsidiary seller.
[01:56:09]  I've had, I think, about four other people on.
[01:56:11]  What?
[01:56:12]  Shut the fuck up!
[01:56:14]  I mean, you can play a recording of each one, and it sounds like the same person.
[01:56:18]  I mean, it's that bad.
[01:56:19]  I have no evidence that he's had anybody else in Verichip on.
[01:56:22]  What are you talking about?

=== Counterculture Propaganda Tactics (09:15) ===

[01:56:23]  Yeah, but this is fun.
[01:56:24]  He's just made that up now.
[01:56:25]  Yeah, yeah, that is fun.
[01:56:26]  That's a nice little add-on.
[01:56:28]  Oh, no, that's how they train them at Verichip.
[01:56:31]  Man, you know, it is sometimes like you look at stuff and you wonder, what if Alex was what he said he was?
[01:56:38]  I think that's something I touched on in one of our really early episodes, is the idea of somebody who is vigilant and watchful and a little bit bombastic.
[01:56:51]  Is something that society could use.
[01:56:54]  If Alex was what he pretends to be, there is a use for him in a functioning society, but not the actual thing that he is.
[01:57:01]  Yeah, there's two things that could be a better world.
[01:57:06]  Alex was who he says he was, or collectively we're able to be, like, instantly, you're not who you say you are.
[01:57:14]  Kick rocks, douche.
[01:57:15]  That we live in the one place where neither of these things is true is the absolute worst possible outcome.
[01:57:21]  Yeah.
[01:57:21]  So Alex and this guy, you know, they riff a little bit about the interview, and Alex feels pretty good about that, but I think it's still eating away at him that...
[01:57:30]  People aren't saying nice enough things about it.
[01:57:32]  There's too many callers that were like about Bush doing a false flag.
[01:57:36]  Everybody's got their own axe to grind.
[01:57:38]  Getting thrown into a hospital because he's too anti-Semitic.
[01:57:41]  There's too much other shit going on.
[01:57:43]  So Alex has just got to like, alright, I gotta do it myself.
[01:57:45]  I got to just make this entertaining.
[01:57:47]  It's counterculture to not get married.
[01:57:50]  It's counterculture to have children out of wedlock.
[01:57:51]  It's counterculture to break things down.
[01:57:53]  It's counterculture to be lazy and stupid.
[01:57:55]  And, you know, oh, it's so cool to not know where America is on a map.
[01:58:00]  No, it's not cool.
[01:58:02]  If you really want to be rebellious, if you really want to be counterculture, join us.
[01:58:07]  Join with the people that love us.
[01:58:10]  Your dad's the coolest!
[01:58:13]  You are pathetic jellyfish out there.
[01:58:15]  You trendies.
[01:58:17]  And the yuppies and the rest of you, you're not even in the game.
[01:58:21]  Your life doesn't even matter because you've made it not matter.
[01:58:24]  You're a cog, a programmable jellyfish.
[01:58:28]  You will break your conditioning.
[01:58:31]  You will break it.
[01:58:34]  Unlock your minds now!
[01:58:36]  Come on, people!
[01:58:38]  Now!
[01:58:38]  We're under unbelievable attack.
[01:58:40]  They're putting daddy-o-campers in school bathrooms.
[01:58:42]  That ain't America!
[01:58:44]  Ah!
[01:58:50]  We just had one of these lunatics on here.
[01:58:52]  Soon the global, everyone will have their global chip in them.
[01:58:57]  Soon our global system.
[01:58:59]  A global ID in your hand.
[01:59:02]  I mean, it's happening!
[01:59:05]  So this strikes me a lot.
[01:59:07]  Alex's performance is basically like an angry child talking about stuff that sounds like what adults would discuss.
[01:59:14]  Yeah.
[01:59:14]  I get the feeling that he's still kind of that youth watching his dad's John Birch Society friends yell about bullshit, and then he's doing an impression of that.
[01:59:22]  I was just thinking the exact same shit.
[01:59:28]  I was thinking, this is a JBS person complaining about beatniks.
[01:59:32]  Oh, you think it's cool to not get mad?
[01:59:37]  Married anymore!
[01:59:38]  With your long hair!
[01:59:39]  You're like, what are we doing?
[01:59:41]  Fucking flappers.
[01:59:42]  What are we doing?
[01:59:42]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:59:43]  Hold on, hold on, man.
[01:59:44]  You're in the wrong era.
[01:59:45]  Wrong era.
[01:59:46]  I get what you're doing, but wrong era.
[01:59:47]  Come on, man.
[01:59:48]  2004 wasn't that long ago.
[01:59:49]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:59:50]  It was, but it's not.
[01:59:52]  But it's not that.
[01:59:53]  Yeah, come on, man.
[01:59:54]  So, you know, Alex said that he doesn't plug.
[01:59:57]  And he doesn't infight.
[01:59:59]  And then, it seems like he gets into a little bit of infighting.
[02:00:04]  Plug in his book again, as usual, The Enemy Within.
[02:00:07]  And he quoted something from his book, one of the callers, and he was saying that there's something that's 100 times worse than a dirty nuke.
[02:00:17]  And do you know what that is?
[02:00:18]  A clean one.
[02:00:20]  It's the tongue of the traitors in this country that are against the war and against George Bush.
[02:00:25]  Oh, that's not a clever one.
[02:00:25]  And they should all be arrested and put in forced labor camps.
[02:00:27]  We have a national show on 450 stations saying put people in forced labor camps.
[02:00:33]  You're right.
[02:00:34]  It's terrible, and unfortunately, you know, I have gotten some of your videos, and I've been giving them out to people, and it's very hard to break through the brainwashing that they're getting from the neocons on TV and on the radio.
[02:00:46]  Well, in Road to Tyranny, we show them who the terrorists are, according to the government.
[02:00:49]  It's the conservatives.
[02:00:51]  On the surface, they say it's the Muslims, but all the real training's for us.
[02:00:55]  I agree, Michael.
[02:00:56]  I think that, excuse me.
[02:00:58]  Oops.
[02:00:59]  Alex, I agree with you.
[02:01:00]  Michael Savage?
[02:01:02]  Michael Savage is an oily, greasy, dirty beatnik, okay?
[02:01:07]  He's a fat-bellied socialist who found out how to really get us.
[02:01:13]  I agree.
[02:01:15]  He makes me want to puke.
[02:01:16]  Can I relate one other thing to you?
[02:01:18]  He's a demonic dwarf.
[02:01:20]  I mean, just a little while after this, once Michael Savage starts being nice to Alex, he's a forefather of the Patriot movement and one of the greatest.
[02:01:28]  You know, that he has experienced being a beatnik is actually useful and helpful.
[02:01:32]  I mean, this is really just Alex infighting with other people in right-wing media.
[02:01:36]  Almost personally, because they're not nice to him.
[02:01:38]  Not nice to him and pay no attention to him and don't support the same conspiracies that he does.
[02:01:44]  Yeah.
[02:01:45]  So that's, you know, I guess this is one problem Alex does infight.
[02:01:49]  He said he doesn't, but he does.
[02:01:51]  But at least he doesn't plug.
[02:01:53]  At least he doesn't plug.
[02:01:54]  He's against the endless plug.
[02:01:56]  You know, he has to plug.
[02:01:57]  We all have to plug, but the endless plug!
[02:01:59]  Yeah, sure, sure.
[02:02:00]  Sky Television News is reporting that a Pentagon source has told them that 130 U.S. troops have been killed.
[02:02:07]  But you're going to see this broken up into each individual battle and reported in pieces in the newspaper.
[02:02:13]  You'll have to add them all up for yourself as a propaganda tactic.
[02:02:16]  London Guardian's reporting that they escalated all of this, again, so the U.S. can stage as the bad cop and the U.N. can be the good cop, and so they don't have the handover.
[02:02:28]  And now they've blown up part of a mosque, which is sure to stir things up even worse.
[02:02:33]  Very, very serious.
[02:02:35]  Yeah, you sound like it.
[02:02:36]  We go to a few final calls, my friends.
[02:02:40]  I hope that all of you will get my videos.
[02:02:42]  I hope you will make copies of them.
[02:02:44]  I hope you will get them out to your friends, your family, air them on Access Television.
[02:02:48]  They're waking up 90% of those that see them.
[02:02:51]  People's minds are very open right now.
[02:02:53]  See, I mean, he does give short shrift to stories in order to weave into plugs.
[02:02:57]  So, I mean, he does still do that.
[02:02:58]  It's certainly not as incessant as it is once he starts doing the supplements, but he still does a fair amount of it.
[02:03:03]  And also, 90% is way down.
[02:03:06]  Yeah.
[02:03:06]  Way down from the 98 and 95s that we're used to.
[02:03:10]  It was...
[02:03:10]  What happened?
[02:03:11]  I don't know.
[02:03:12]  Probably he had a bad run, you know?
[02:03:14]  Like, that's the thing about percentages.
[02:03:16]  You know, like, okay, 50% of the time you're going to get heads or tails.
[02:03:20]  You know, we all know that.
[02:03:21]  But what if you get 10 heads in a row?
[02:03:23]  That's just as likely.
[02:03:25]  Right?
[02:03:25]  Every single time.
[02:03:26]  55, 50, 50, 50, 50. 90, though.
[02:03:28]  I mean, like, if you're talking about the number...
[02:03:32]  Of data points that Alex presumably has in order to go down from 95 even to 90. That's a slump.
[02:03:39]  Well, we had 50. We were 49 out of 50. And then...
[02:03:44]  Boy, now we're 49 out of 56. Unfortunately, we've just gone way down.
[02:03:50]  So Alex also has a really convenient way to not be wrong there with the 130 deaths.
[02:03:57]  You're going to see reported lower numbers than that, but that's actually them just breaking it up and blah, blah, blah.
[02:04:03]  No, it's not.
[02:04:04]  You've got bad information and you're not going to admit that it was tentative information that you have reported as factual and complete because it's more important that the media is...
[02:04:14]  Yeah.
[02:04:18]  I mean, ironically, telling people that this is a propaganda tactic is itself a propaganda tactic.
[02:04:31]  Yikes.
[02:04:31]  Yeah.
[02:04:32]  So, there was also...
[02:04:33]  I didn't play any of this, but there was about a half hour of the show where Alex complains about...
[02:04:39]  Sure!
[02:04:39]  There's a lot to complain about.
[02:04:41]  Sure.
[02:04:41]  It melts your brain.
[02:04:42]  Yep.
[02:04:42]  Makes dumb.
[02:04:43]  Opioids.
[02:04:44]  And also, every episode of The Shield is apparently about how torture is good.
[02:04:47]  You complained about that for quite a while.
[02:04:49]  I want to return to a world where people all agreed that torture is bad.
[02:04:54]  Now it feels like people are no longer agreeing on this.
[02:04:58]  Well, this mostly had to do with Alex going to a Chinese restaurant the night before and seeing on the TV that bald man.
[02:05:05]  Michael Chiklis?
[02:05:06]  He doesn't know Michael Chiklis' name.
[02:05:08]  Refuses to save the bald man from NYPD Blue or whatever.
[02:05:12]  What's the other show Chiklis was on?
[02:05:14]  I don't know.
[02:05:15]  Wasn't NYPD Blue Detective Sipowitz?
[02:05:18]  Wasn't he the bald guy?
[02:05:19]  Franz.
[02:05:20]  Dennis Franz.
[02:05:21]  Dennis Franz.
[02:05:22]  Was on NYPD Blue.

=== End of This (03:46) ===

[02:05:23]  I know that.
[02:05:24]  Dennis Franz.
[02:05:24]  Is he dead?
[02:05:25]  He's dead.
[02:05:26]  Chiklis was the thing.
[02:05:28]  Chiklis was the thing in the Fantastic Four.
[02:05:31]  Boy, that one really sent his career downwards.
[02:05:36]  It did.
[02:05:36]  Yeah.
[02:05:37]  Ironically, fantastic casting.
[02:05:40]  He was, he actually was the good, he was really the only good character.
[02:05:44]  Yeah.
[02:05:45]  Yeah.
[02:05:45]  Poor guy.
[02:05:46]  Pre-Captain America ass, yeah, dangerous.
[02:05:50]  So we come to the end of this, and this was...
[02:05:54]  You know, an interesting exercise in Alex doing an interview that's a setup, and then paying it off with talking about the interview immediately after, fleshing out the, this is how you interpret the things he said, this is the, he's announcing this plan, as opposed to just being a guy who's in favor of these technologies and thinks they're cool.
[02:06:14]  Yeah.
[02:06:16]  I am, I will admit, jealous.
[02:06:20]  I am jealous of the ability to do something and then inexplicably be proud of yourself for a different reason.
[02:06:28]  That is amazing.
[02:06:30]  It is.
[02:06:30]  It is.
[02:06:31]  Alex has a lot of enviable self-soothing mechanisms.
[02:06:34]  I've done things that I think legitimately I should be proud of, and I find it impossible to.
[02:06:40]  I find that to be an incredible hurdle in most of my life, to be able to enjoy the things that happen.
[02:06:47]  Now what if you were able to enjoy them for a fake reason?
[02:06:50]  What if I was able to enjoy the things that I shouldn't enjoy?
[02:06:53]  Well, I mean, I feel like there's a number you can call, and it's Alex's hotline.
[02:06:58]  Yeah, that's true.
[02:06:59]  See if he can fix that for you.
[02:07:01]  There is, again, moderation in all things.
[02:07:03]  You should not be Alex, and you should not be me.
[02:07:06]  That's fair.
[02:07:06]  Enjoy some things.
[02:07:08]  Enjoy some, don't enjoy others.
[02:07:10]  Yeah.
[02:07:11]  So, yeah, I don't know.
[02:07:13]  I think that this is maybe...
[02:07:16]  If you look at it, not that important.
[02:07:18]  But it is actually something that Alex is trying to make one of the most important interviews that he's ever done.
[02:07:24]  And in that, it becomes more important.
[02:07:28]  And you can see the ways that he engages with information through the analysis of that.
[02:07:33]  So that's why I thought it was a worthwhile use of our time.
[02:07:35]  And the fact that in the present day, Alex is making...
[02:07:39]  So many excuses.
[02:07:40]  Bending over backwards to explain away why what Musk is doing is cool.
[02:07:45]  And you look in the past and it's like, the devil!
[02:07:48]  The devil!
[02:07:49]  It's one-to-one, man.
[02:07:50]  There's no, like, oh, the context has changed.
[02:07:54]  It's literally, not only has the context not changed, it's actually freakish that the one thing that you really legitimately should be like, If a billionaire is trying to put chips in you, I warned you about that before other people did.
[02:08:09]  If there was anything you were going to do that for.
[02:08:11]  And I didn't play this clip.
[02:08:13]  I don't have a clip of this, but in a part of it, when he's talking about that Army War College report that is about everyone getting chipped, he said that they predicted it would happen by 2025.
[02:08:22]  You're joking!
[02:08:23]  Which, if that's the case, he should really be concerned about Musk.
[02:08:26]  God damn!
[02:08:26]  Damn it!
[02:08:26]  Of all the things that we have to listen to you be Alex Jones is right about, this one instead, you're like, well, hey, man, this guy's actually fucking cool.
[02:08:35]  Yeah, he's great.
[02:08:36]  He's a bigot in the way that I like, and he let me back on social media.
[02:08:39]  Oh, man.
[02:08:40]  Anyway, we'll be back with another episode, but until then, we have a website.
[02:08:43]  Indeed we do.
[02:08:44]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[02:08:44]  Yep, we're also on Twitter.
[02:08:46]  We are on Blue Sky.
[02:08:47]  Oh, that's right.
[02:08:48]  It's Knowledge Fight.
[02:08:48]  Shit, I zoned out.
[02:08:49]  We're off Twitter, or we're on it.
[02:08:51]  I don't even know anymore.
[02:08:52]  Anyway, we'll be back.
[02:08:53]  Until then, I'm Neom Leo.

=== Improvisation Fails (00:34) ===

[02:08:55]  I'm DZX Clark.
[02:08:58]  Damn it.
[02:08:59]  I'm not good at improvising, but I was going to try and come up with a song that involved...
[02:09:03]  Oh, you know what I should have done?
[02:09:05]  Here's what I should have done.
[02:09:06]  This is good improvising.
[02:09:08]  Here's what I should have done.
[02:09:10]  In advance, I should have looked up one of the Baja Boys songs.
[02:09:12]  That's what you should have done.
[02:09:14]  And then sung it here at the end.
[02:09:15]  That's what I should have done.
[02:09:16]  Imagine that.
[02:09:16]  Imagine.
[02:09:17]  Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
[02:09:20]  And now here comes the sex robot.
[02:09:22]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[02:09:23]  Thanks for holding.
[02:09:26]  Hello, Alex.
[02:09:27]  I'm a first-time caller.
[02:09:28]  I'm a huge fan.
[02:09:28]  I love your work.