Knowledge Fight - #893: January 25, 2024
Aired: 2024-01-29
Duration: 01:59:01


=== Kevin's Bright Spot Collection (03:50) ===

[00:00:21]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:30]  Dan and Jordan.
[00:00:31]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:32]  Need money.
[00:00:36]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:40]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:42]  Stop it.
[00:00:43]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:43]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:44]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:47]  Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
[00:00:48]  Thanks for holding us.
[00:00:50]  I love you.
[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody!
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:02]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:06]  Indeed we are.
[00:01:07]  Dan.
[00:01:07]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Quick question for you.
[00:01:09]  What's up?
[00:01:10]  What's your bright spot today, buddy?
[00:01:11]  My bright spot today is thank you very much to Zip, kind listener, Tristan Scent.
[00:01:16]  A little plush.
[00:01:18]  There it is.
[00:01:18]  Kevin the Bird.
[00:01:19]  It's Kevin the Bird!
[00:01:20]  Getting my Kevin the Bird collection together.
[00:01:22]  I think we'll have a whole mess of Kevin the Bird stuff from up.
[00:01:28]  But also, there's sort of a question of a bright spot.
[00:01:32]  Sure.
[00:01:33]  I'm thinking about this.
[00:01:34]  The question of a bright spot.
[00:01:35]  I'm thinking about this as a potential bright spot.
[00:01:36]  Here's an entirely new genre of bright spot.
[00:01:39]  Potential bright spot.
[00:01:40]  You like that.
[00:01:41]  Is this like an Amazon wish list thing?
[00:01:43]  Are we cam girls?
[00:01:44]  No.
[00:01:44]  Is that what we're doing?
[00:01:45]  No, it's not too much that.
[00:01:48]  I'll take steps on this possibly.
[00:01:50]  Sure.
[00:01:50]  Okay, okay.
[00:01:51]  It depends on feedback from you.
[00:01:53]  Me specifically.
[00:01:54]  And some spitball in here a little bit.
[00:01:55]  Alright, I like it.
[00:01:56]  You like those Like a Dragon games, right?
[00:01:58]  I swear to you, that is my bright spot.
[00:02:01]  Okay, because my potential bright spot was I heard that new one was out.
[00:02:04]  I thought it looked nuts.
[00:02:06]  It is nuts.
[00:02:07]  Okay.
[00:02:08]  It's fucking nuts.
[00:02:09]  It's like, it is such a great form of taking the banal...
[00:02:15]  Then washing it into fantasy and then washing it back into the banal.
[00:02:20]  Which is such a fascinating extra thing to do, you know?
[00:02:23]  You could just take a regular story and then push, elevate it into a fantasy world.
[00:02:29]  But it is so much that they're like, okay, alright, yes, you've got magic powers.
[00:02:34]  But fuck it, we're going right back to work.
[00:02:36]  You go to the office, okay?
[00:02:38]  That's what you're doing!
[00:02:39]  Yeah.
[00:02:40]  I saw something about it that was like one of the main, like, sidelines.
[00:02:49]  There are an infinite number of minigames that have nothing to do with anything.
[00:02:54]  They can sing karaoke and it's an entire guitar hero thing.
[00:02:59]  There's a dating sim that you can go on and you can text people back.
[00:03:03]  And it has no relevance to anything?
[00:03:05]  None!
[00:03:06]  Great.
[00:03:06]  Absurd!
[00:03:07]  And it's infinite.
[00:03:08]  I love it.
[00:03:09]  Well, it's infinite wealth.
[00:03:10]  Exactly.
[00:03:10]  I thought about that, and so I guess it's fun that your bright spot was that, and that it wraps into this, that maybe I'll give it a try then.
[00:03:19]  I was reluctant to, because I'm trying to generally...
[00:03:24]  I splurged on Prince of Persia.
[00:03:28]  Sure.
[00:03:29]  But I'm trying to generally play the games that are free on the PlayStation Network.
[00:03:33]  Yeah, I get you.
[00:03:34]  Because I don't want to waste a lot of money.
[00:03:35]  I'm with you.
[00:03:36]  So I was playing that...
[00:03:37]  I can't even remember what the fuck it was.
[00:03:39]  That's not a good sign.
[00:03:40]  Yeah.
[00:03:40]  No, it's not.
[00:03:41]  Yeah.
[00:03:42]  But that sounded so crazy.
[00:03:44]  It sounded...
[00:03:44]  I might pull the trigger.
[00:03:47]  It's one of the things where being genuinely funny...
[00:03:53]  Laugh out loud funny through a video game is fucking impossible.

=== Great Bits in Gaming (03:51) ===

[00:03:58]  Right.
[00:03:58]  And there are so many good moments in this that actually pull it off.
[00:04:03]  And it requires so much work.
[00:04:06]  There's one thing about the dating sim thing that they do, or like it's a dating app.
[00:04:11]  Whatever it is.
[00:04:12]  But there is one thing that they do that I won't spoil for you, but it is truly one of the great bits that I've ever seen anybody execute in a video game, and I would never have seen it coming.
[00:04:23]  I'm guessing you get catfished?
[00:04:25]  You do, but obviously you get catfished.
[00:04:29]  Yes, that's the essence of the bit.
[00:04:31]  How they pull it off in a video game is completely different.
[00:04:34]  Awesome.
[00:04:35]  It is so good.
[00:04:36]  Alright, you're talking me towards it.
[00:04:39]  So the potential bright spot may be coming in the future for me, but it's today for you.
[00:04:44]  Today for me!
[00:04:45]  All right, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
[00:04:47]  Indeed.
[00:04:47]  We're going to be talking about the 25th.
[00:04:49]  That's last Thursday.
[00:04:50]  Right.
[00:04:51]  When we were recording.
[00:04:52]  We're going to secede from the union, baby!
[00:04:54]  Let's roll!
[00:04:55]  That is the promise of the premise, and we will see if we get there throughout the course of this episode.
[00:05:00]  Okay.
[00:05:01]  But before we find out anything, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
[00:05:04]  Oh, that's a great idea.
[00:05:05]  So first, thanks to Jordan, scavenger rain rearranged my brain.
[00:05:09]  Thank you.
[00:05:09]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:09]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:05:10]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:11]  Thank you very much!
[00:05:12]  Thank you.
[00:05:12]  Next, Holly, a.k.a.
[00:05:14]  This podcast is my guilty pleasure and drives normal people nuts.
[00:05:17]  So there's that.
[00:05:18]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:19]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:05:20]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:21]  Thank you very much!
[00:05:22]  Thank you.
[00:05:22]  Next, Dr. M. Your husband loves you and worries about how much of Alex's voice you've consumed.
[00:05:26]  It can't be healthy.
[00:05:27]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:28]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:05:29]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:30]  Thank you very much.
[00:05:31]  I mean, the person's a doctor.
[00:05:32]  I assume they'd know.
[00:05:33]  I like the idea that that's a supervillain's, like, note.
[00:05:37]  Dr. M. Dr. M. You're listening to too much of that podcast.
[00:05:40]  Next, sovereign citizen in the courts of heaven.
[00:05:42]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:43]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:05:44]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:45]  Thank you very much!
[00:05:45]  This raises an interesting question.
[00:05:47]  Do the courts of heaven operate on maritime law?
[00:05:49]  Oh my god.
[00:05:50]  What if they do?
[00:05:51]  What happens if somebody is just like, I do not recognize your authority, God.
[00:05:55]  Does everybody stop?
[00:05:57]  Nobody's ever thought of this before.
[00:05:59]  We're in uncharted territory.
[00:06:00]  Next, I don't know about you guys, but this show drastically improved my quality of life.
[00:06:05]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:05]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:06:06]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:07]  Thank you very much.
[00:06:08]  Impossible.
[00:06:09]  Also, it said IDK, not I don't know.
[00:06:11]  I translated that.
[00:06:12]  My bad.
[00:06:12]  Very, very, very kind.
[00:06:13]  No, they specifically sent the email that was like, everybody always says that this podcast hurts your brain.
[00:06:19]  I thought it made me feel better.
[00:06:21]  Well, that's very sweet.
[00:06:21]  Yes, it was very sweet.
[00:06:22]  We got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to second annual Knowledge Fight Fantasy Football League champion, Hero-less Bachelor Squatches.
[00:06:29]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:29]  You're now a technocrat.
[00:06:31]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:33]  Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
[00:06:35]  Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
[00:06:38]  Daddy Shark.
[00:06:40]  Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
[00:06:44]  He's a loser little titty baby.
[00:06:48]  I don't want to hate black people.
[00:06:49]  I renounce Jesus Christ.
[00:06:51]  Those hero-less bachelor squatches, they're from sports.
[00:06:55]  They are from sports.
[00:06:56]  That's, well, I mean...
[00:06:58]  I don't know.
[00:06:59]  Are they allowed in sports now?
[00:07:02]  Well, I mean, they're from fantasy sports.
[00:07:04]  Do you think there's, at one point, somebody was like, well, there's no rule that says Sasquatches can't play basketball.
[00:07:11]  I'm certain this has happened many times.
[00:07:13]  It has to be.
[00:07:13]  Whether it's in the collegiate level, whether it's in the municipal...
[00:07:18]  The Teen Wolf era level, or yeah.
[00:07:21]  Whether it's in the...
[00:07:24]  Parks and Recreation Department.
[00:07:26]  Sure.
[00:07:27]  Games.
[00:07:28]  There is no rule.
[00:07:28]  What's the term for that?
[00:07:30]  What am I thinking of?
[00:07:31]  Local sports?
[00:07:32]  Yeah, it's something like that, but there's a term.
[00:07:33]  Rec league.

=== Standoff at Eagle Pass (11:38) ===

[00:07:34]  Yeah, that might be it.
[00:07:35]  I don't think it is, but there's another word.
[00:07:37]  All right.
[00:07:37]  We're going to spend all day figuring this out.
[00:07:39]  What are we going to succeed from the union?
[00:07:41]  We're going to succeed from the podcast.
[00:07:43]  Figure out what...
[00:07:44]  Intramural.
[00:07:45]  Intramural!
[00:07:46]  That's great.
[00:07:46]  Yeah, that was the word I was looking for.
[00:07:47]  Love it.
[00:07:48]  So, Jordan.
[00:07:49]  We find ourselves in the precarious situation where there's the appearance of a standoff between the federal government and the state of Texas taking place at the U.S.-Mexico border at a spot called Eagle Pass.
[00:08:00]  And it was particularly coming into sharp focus on this Thursday when we were recording our last episode and when Alex is recording this episode.
[00:08:09]  So obviously the issue of immigration and handling migrants arriving in the country is a long-standing source of political tension, and it would be impossible to put a beginning date on that whole thing.
[00:08:18]  But we can start our discussion here, and for the relevance of this conversation, with the beginning of Operation Lone Star.
[00:08:27]  Okay.
[00:08:27]  Texas launched Operation Lone Star in March 2021.
[00:08:31]  This was essentially a military-involved action involving the Texas National Guard and other state groups targeted at turning back immigrants and presumably stopping drugs from being smuggled into the United States.
[00:08:42]  Initially, though they used tactics that were pretty extreme, like the now very relevant use of razor wire, the public was generally in support of the operation, despite that.
[00:08:52]  However, as time went on, the tide has turned against these tactics and...
[00:08:57]  it's becoming a little much for folks to idly sit by and just watch.
[00:09:01]  At least 74 migrants have been killed due to vehicle chases that were not strictly necessary given the circumstances through this Operation Lone Star.
[00:09:10]  And then you have the horrific images that folks are forced to confront.
[00:09:14]  Like, there's a story that a man relayed to the Texas Tribune about seeing a pregnant woman bloodied, stuck trying to climb through razor wire.
[00:09:21]  These are awful things to see.
[00:09:24]  And it is a part of the implications of the things that are being done through Operation Lone Star.
[00:09:30]  The inhumanity that Operation Lone Star entails is pretty severe, and naturally, folks who take the issues surrounding immigration more seriously and think that migrants are people have had some problems with it.
[00:09:40]  One big part of the operations activities in Eagle Pass is the erecting of a bunch of this razor wire.
[00:09:45]  Now, there's also a federal border patrol facility in Eagle Pass, and they felt that they should have access to the actual border, which had been blocked off by miles of razor wire.
[00:09:55]  This went through the courts, and the federal agents, they wanted to cut through the wire, and the states wanted an injunction to stop them from doing that.
[00:10:04]  The state appeals court in Texas, they ruled that the feds could not cut through the wire.
[00:10:10]  Which then got sent to the Supreme Court.
[00:10:12]  The court ruled 5-4 that the federal agents could, in fact, cut through the wire, which is super shocking.
[00:10:18]  Since this is the current Supreme Court that we're talking about, like Chief Justice John Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett, they sided with the liberal trio, which is nuts.
[00:10:27]  I can't even...
[00:10:28]  It's unfathomable.
[00:10:29]  Stop, stop, stop, stop.
[00:10:30]  Remember, okay?
[00:10:32]  They won already.
[00:10:33]  The federal government needs to have power because they are going to control it.
[00:10:38]  That is an interesting twist.
[00:10:39]  Don't forget, don't forget.
[00:10:41]  But if that were the case...
[00:10:41]  They will have it next year.
[00:10:43]  But I would have assumed in that case, if that is the conspiracy that's going on...
[00:10:47]  What?
[00:10:49]  It's not a conspiracy.
[00:10:50]  It's just the political reality.
[00:10:51]  But I would assume that some...
[00:10:53]  Like Clarence Thomas and Kavanaugh also would have joined the strength to the federal government side.
[00:10:58]  I mean, well, they're not...
[00:11:01]  Particularly owned by the same people, I would say.
[00:11:04]  You know?
[00:11:05]  I don't know.
[00:11:06]  Yeah.
[00:11:07]  I don't know exactly, but I get what you're saying that is like, oh, they're going to seize the federal government, so don't erode the power of it.
[00:11:13]  No, I mean, it's not like they're seizing the government.
[00:11:15]  Trump will be elected.
[00:11:16]  If you have a federal government that Trump is elected to, you don't want to make it an out-and-out, terrorism-based, fascist government, so you have the trappings of the similar things, so you keep the federal court in the power.
[00:11:28]  It makes sense.
[00:11:29]  I...
[00:11:30]  I get the broad strokes of what you're saying, but I'm not entirely sure that I agree that that was why they were thinking that.
[00:11:35]  Oh, fair enough.
[00:11:35]  Or they made that decision.
[00:11:37]  Fair enough.
[00:11:37]  That might be the feeling and the vibe of things, but, you know, there probably were other pieces that came into the decision.
[00:11:44]  Could be.
[00:11:45]  But even so, it is still bizarre.
[00:11:47]  You would have thought for sure, I would have thought for sure, that they would have been like, we're just going to keep our hands off this one.
[00:11:54]  No, I mean, I've read actually a lot about the Supreme Court for some reason.
[00:11:59]  No, actually it was whenever I was thinking about doing an episode on an interview with Clarence Thomas and his wife.
[00:12:06]  His wife interviewed Clarence Thomas.
[00:12:08]  Oh, I thought you meant you were going to actually get an interview with him.
[00:12:11]  No, no, no.
[00:12:12]  That'd be huge.
[00:12:12]  Ginny Thomas interviewed Clarence Thomas, and it is one of the more insane things I've ever listened to.
[00:12:17]  I'm certain.
[00:12:18]  But yeah, so John Roberts, that makes perfect sense for him.
[00:12:21]  That's his whole thing.
[00:12:23]  Sure.
[00:12:23]  Neil Gorsuch.
[00:12:24]  That's his whole thing, too.
[00:12:25]  He's straight up one of those guys.
[00:12:27]  Like, he's weirdly for protecting negative American shit.
[00:12:30]  Like, he's just one of those guys.
[00:12:32]  Well, but then you would have expected him to join with this, too.
[00:12:36]  And he didn't.
[00:12:37]  He was on the dissenting side.
[00:12:40]  Yeah, that's true.
[00:12:41]  It's confusing.
[00:12:43]  It's a mess.
[00:12:44]  So anyway, with that ruling, the federal agents were able to cut through the wire, which they did.
[00:12:49]  And in response, the Texas National Guard put up more wire, which presumably the feds can cut through now again if they want, and the cycle will continue.
[00:12:56]  While the Supreme Court didn't Ooh, I like that.
[00:13:04]  who are supposed to be the highest court in the land.
[00:13:06]  Sure.
[00:13:06]  It's not necessarily against the decision to put up the wire, but it's a direct breach to not allow the federal agents to cut it down, which they've said they're not going to allow the federal agents to do.
[00:13:17]  Okay.
[00:13:17]  So they're essentially in violation of the Supreme Court and not at the same time.
[00:13:21]  Right.
[00:13:22]  It's Schrodinger's opposition and defiance to the Supreme Court.
[00:13:25]  Okay.
[00:13:25]  So, theoretically, we could shut down this entire country because, you know, like, listen, they gotta sleep sooner or later.
[00:13:35]  So now they've got to hire people to run watches 24 hours a day.
[00:13:39]  Well, I do think that the military and National Guards are particularly good at shifts.
[00:13:44]  Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.
[00:13:46]  So now we've got tons and tons of people in here.
[00:13:50]  Making a brand new economy out of just looking at each other around some wire.
[00:13:54]  I think that's possibly the most productive thing those groups of people have done in years.
[00:13:59]  You're going to have a lot of pop-ups with like street meat.
[00:14:01]  Totally.
[00:14:01]  Yeah, you're going to have to feed people.
[00:14:03]  There's going to be a nice little Ferris wheel.
[00:14:05]  People come watch you guys stare at wire together because we're all stupid apes.
[00:14:10]  Not because you're...
[00:14:11]  Never mind.
[00:14:13]  So, this is where things have landed in terms of this particular situation.
[00:14:17]  The feds have a Supreme Court decision that allows them to cut through the wire, but the Texas Guard has made it clear that they're just going to keep on putting up more wire and not allow them to cut through it.
[00:14:25]  As Texas made this clear, various states with Republican governors started making announcements about their support for Texas' actions.
[00:14:32]  In essence, Texas was thumbing their nose at the federal government and these states were saying, we've got your back.
[00:14:37]  At last count, 25 states have signed on to supporting Texas, with Vermont being the only state in the country with a Republican governor to not.
[00:14:47]  That's the only state.
[00:14:49]  All of them accept that.
[00:14:51]  A bunch of fucking idiots.
[00:14:52]  Trump has gotten into the mix, too, encouraging governors to send troops to Texas.
[00:14:56]  Absolutely.
[00:14:57]  Send troops to Texas.
[00:14:59]  And to make matters worse, there's a big trucker convoy that's been promoted around right-wing social media and on their programs, which is heading to Eagle Pass, as well as spots in Yuma, Arizona and San Isidro, California.
[00:15:12]  Sure.
[00:15:12]  They're trying to recruit veterans, active military, and all sorts of other folks to join and carry out their duty as what they describe as God's army.
[00:15:20]  Sure.
[00:15:20]  To secure the border.
[00:15:21]  Sure.
[00:15:21]  It's a recipe for trouble, and the convoy is arriving at Eagle Pass on February 3rd, which is this coming Saturday.
[00:15:28]  This could go any number of ways, and I'm reluctant to make any prediction, but the pieces are all there for something bad.
[00:15:34]  The talk of civil war starting certainly seems overblown, but at the same time, I don't want to downplay what's happening here.
[00:15:41]  Sure.
[00:15:41]  This is a situation unlike any I think I've seen.
[00:15:43]  I don't know, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I...
[00:15:46]  There's not a lot of things I can compare it to.
[00:15:49]  In our lifetime?
[00:15:50]  Yeah.
[00:15:50]  As my human life.
[00:15:53]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
[00:15:54]  The situation where the leaders of half of the states are essentially saying that the Supreme Court doesn't mean anything to them, they're just going to do whatever they want, that's pretty fucked up.
[00:16:03]  Sure.
[00:16:04]  While it doesn't necessarily mean that we're heading towards secession or a civil war, it's hard to see how this doesn't get worse in the context of a 2024 presidential election where Trump is trying to make immigration one of his main issues.
[00:16:16]  Right.
[00:16:17]  This is all a mess.
[00:16:18]  Right.
[00:16:18]  I think what I find so fascinating about this, what I find so incredibly fascinating about this, is that I 100% agree with the 25 states.
[00:16:28]  The Supreme Court is a joke.
[00:16:30]  It's absolutely ridiculous.
[00:16:32]  Boggles my mind is why they agree with me on that.
[00:16:36]  That seems fucking crazy.
[00:16:38]  It's their Supreme Court!
[00:16:40]  You agree that it is silly that we have nine people in robes who dictate all kinds of stuff.
[00:16:46]  It's illegitimate.
[00:16:47]  There's two that shouldn't be on there.
[00:16:50]  Right.
[00:16:50]  There's a stolen one.
[00:16:52]  I understand.
[00:16:52]  I understand that.
[00:16:53]  You know what I mean?
[00:16:53]  Like, it doesn't matter what they believe.
[00:16:56]  Their very function is non-existent.
[00:16:58]  Time out.
[00:16:58]  We know one is owned specifically by a billionaire.
[00:17:02]  Time out.
[00:17:02]  Here's why there's a need for specificity.
[00:17:05]  Sure.
[00:17:05]  You have a problem with...
[00:17:07]  The Supreme Court because of circumstances.
[00:17:11]  They have a problem with the Supreme Court because they hate the federal government.
[00:17:16]  You know what I mean?
[00:17:17]  Like, if those seats weren't stolen, and if someone wasn't bought, and there was integrity in the court, and what have you, would you still have a problem with it?
[00:17:26]  The Supreme Court?
[00:17:27]  Yeah.
[00:17:27]  Um, that depends.
[00:17:29]  No.
[00:17:30]  Yes, I would.
[00:17:31]  Okay, well then it doesn't matter if they're bought, so why are you complaining about it?
[00:17:34]  That's a good point.
[00:17:36]  You're right.
[00:17:36]  It's a dumb system.
[00:17:37]  Get your ass down to Texas, then, man.
[00:17:39]  Nah, I'm good.
[00:17:40]  Okay.
[00:17:42]  They're going to shoot each other over wire?
[00:17:44]  Get the fuck out of here.
[00:17:45]  There's not even a real line there.
[00:17:47]  Well, I think that what your issue comes down to is why do you care?
[00:17:53]  Yeah.
[00:17:53]  And on issues that you do care about, let's say access to reproductive health care, if the Supreme Court were to rule that you're not allowed to have reproductive health care...
[00:18:04]  That means as much to me as you can cut down wire.
[00:18:07]  They mean nothing to me.
[00:18:09]  Right.
[00:18:09]  So it really comes down to the reason behind this action is flawed.
[00:18:16]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:16]  No, I mean, I feel as though if...
[00:18:19]  I was standing outside an abortion clinic with the Illinois State National Guard against the fucking federal troops.
[00:18:26]  That makes as much sense as what they're doing.
[00:18:28]  Except mine's real and would save lives, and they're still trying to kill more people.
[00:18:32]  They're murdering people, and I'm trying to not murder people.
[00:18:35]  From an idealistic cause kind of standpoint, you're there, and that's good.
[00:18:43]  From an on-the-ground, what-is-happening-here situation, I think that it is probably more of a problem that half of the states are supporting a state.
[00:18:56]  Sure.

=== End Goal of Operation Lone Star (11:12) ===

[00:18:57]  Defying the federal government.
[00:18:58]  The specific one, too.
[00:18:59]  Yeah.
[00:18:59]  That's a huge issue.
[00:19:00]  It is true.
[00:19:01]  Yeah.
[00:19:02]  So we'll see how things go in Alex Land discussing this.
[00:19:06]  Yeah, let's see.
[00:19:07]  And it's, I don't know, not good.
[00:19:10]  Here's where we start.
[00:19:11]  Okay.
[00:19:13]  Infowars.com first wrote articles in 2004 about replacement migration.
[00:19:19]  You can look it up.
[00:19:21]  They're on the site.
[00:19:21]  We are the first to break it anywhere.
[00:19:26]  And that's kind of shameful because it was in UN documents in 2000-2001.
[00:19:32]  Well, now the crisis has come to a head.
[00:19:35]  14 states have joined with Texas in defiance of the hijacked criminal federal government.
[00:19:43]  And many of the states are sending their state guard under the state governor's command to aid Texas.
[00:19:51]  So just a small point, Alex was absolutely not the first to report on the concept of replacement migration.
[00:19:57]  You can find articles about the topic in outlets like the New York Times, CNN, BBC, The Guardian, United Press International, and the Christian Science Monitor from 2002 and prior.
[00:20:07]  It was a hot topic also, let's not fuck around, in white supremacist and Nazi circles prior.
[00:20:12]  Yeah, Pat Buchanan made a career out of saying those words.
[00:20:15]  The UN report that Alex is talking about isn't a plan.
[00:20:19]  It's an analysis of mortality and birth data around the world that assesses what level of migration would be necessary to maintain a full working population dependent on different directions that numbers could go.
[00:20:29]  For instance, in the case of the United States, there are five possible scenarios that they paint, each with different assumptions about how trends would proceed.
[00:20:36]  Yeah, that's a lot.
[00:20:54]  It is.
[00:20:55]  That would be a lot.
[00:20:57]  Yep, yep.
[00:20:58]  This is about maintaining the needed support balance between the working age population and the elderly that have retired.
[00:21:03]  They're essentially assessing the level of support given different levels of migration.
[00:21:08]  That's the underlying thing of this report.
[00:21:10]  Sure.
[00:21:10]  They found that existing rates of immigration were more than enough to keep the working population at a healthy ratio, and that if there were no immigration, it would be necessary to raise the retirement age to 74. The only important thing for Alex is that this is a question of immigration.
[00:21:26]  That's the only part of this that he even cares about.
[00:21:29]  Right, right, right.
[00:21:30]  Because he's a vicious xenophobe.
[00:21:31]  But the paper itself is actually more about the question of supporting an aging population in industrialized countries.
[00:21:37]  Immigration is one aspect of it, but retirement age, increasing labor force participation, and reorganizing retirement benefit paradigms, that's all part of that too.
[00:21:46]  Sure.
[00:21:47]  Alex does what he always does with this document.
[00:21:49]  He takes something that involves a dense analysis, then oversimplifies it, and then pretends that his oversimplification is actually secretly the globalists'plans and that they're admitting to it in this document.
[00:21:59]  It's a game that's very tired, and I cannot pretend.
[00:22:04]  Not fun.
[00:22:06]  No.
[00:22:06]  No.
[00:22:07]  Alex's number about the state governors in that clip was a bit off, but it's probably maybe accurate at the time that this was being recorded.
[00:22:14]  Sure.
[00:22:14]  It was a situation that moved really fast on that Thursday, so it very well might have been the case that the number was 14 when he started the show, and by the end of it, it was 25. Ooh, that's fast.
[00:22:24]  Yeah.
[00:22:24]  As a brush fire of governors willing to start a fucking civil war.
[00:22:29]  This is the number of governors who've said that they stand with Texas in the dispute, but it's not the same as the number who have or will.
[00:22:37]  Sure, sure.
[00:22:38]  I suspect that this 14 number is not actually representative of the current situation when Alex is on air here on January 25th, but actually the number of governors who had chipped in either with resources or manpower to Governor Abbott's Operation Lone Star.
[00:22:50]  But that's something that they had done months back.
[00:22:52]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:22:53]  So I think that's where he's getting the 14 number, but I'm not sure.
[00:22:56]  Gotcha.
[00:22:56]  It's unclear how many states will and have sent troops, but I'm fairly comfortable the number won't be zero, and it could be a bunch.
[00:23:02]  Basically, to sum it up, this shit is a mess.
[00:23:04]  I love the idea.
[00:23:06]  First off, here's my favorite person in all of this.
[00:23:11]  My favorite person is the Montana National Guardsman who's like, wait a second, you want me to do what?
[00:23:18]  Right.
[00:23:19]  For what?
[00:23:20]  If you go, you're the fucking idiot.
[00:23:22]  You're the idiot.
[00:23:23]  Sorry.
[00:23:24]  Fuck everybody else in this country for one moment.
[00:23:27]  It's just you, Montana National Guardsmen.
[00:23:29]  Don't be a fucking moron.
[00:23:31]  Stay home.
[00:23:32]  Quit.
[00:23:33]  Just suddenly stop.
[00:23:36]  Don't realize it's been millions of years of evolution that's led you to this point, and you are a fucking ape.
[00:23:43]  There's no...
[00:23:44]  Go get a coconut.
[00:23:45]  We're all just living stupid lives.
[00:23:48]  Just don't go fight over a fucking razor wire a thousand miles away from you!
[00:23:53]  Well, I...
[00:23:55]  Don't...
[00:23:57]  It's hard to argue with, I mean, I like coconut.
[00:24:00]  Yeah, right?
[00:24:01]  But, you know, you have to kind of take it seriously in some ways because, you know, the imposition of this razor wire is hurting and killing people.
[00:24:11]  Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[00:24:12]  So, I guess I would say don't...
[00:24:15]  Go and fight for it if you're on the side of not letting people cut it down.
[00:24:19]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:24:21]  I don't know.
[00:24:22]  Well, like I'm saying, that's why it's a mess.
[00:24:24]  Well, that's the problem, though.
[00:24:26]  We've got to stop talking about this as if it's real and start talking about these people want to murder immigrants.
[00:24:32]  That's their goal.
[00:24:33]  The end goal of Operation Lone Star is the murder of immigrants because if you murder them, then the next ones will think...
[00:24:40]  Passive murder.
[00:24:41]  The next ones will think, well, we're going to die if we cross the border.
[00:24:45]  Exactly.
[00:24:46]  Yeah, it is a terrorism campaign, essentially.
[00:24:48]  It's terrorism.
[00:24:50]  Right, so you have to either be willing to terrorize the Texas National Guard, too, or you go, well, I guess you guys get to do whatever the fuck you want.
[00:24:58]  Well, I mean, the flip side, honestly, is I don't think you're going to terrorize the Texas National Guard.
[00:25:03]  There you go.
[00:25:03]  But there are legal mechanisms wherein Biden could federalize the Guard, and you can very easily imagine what the right-wing response is.
[00:25:10]  Yeah, but I mean, again, that's the idea, is that at a certain point, if you're willing to kill people to keep killing people, then the only way to stop you is to kill you.
[00:25:22]  We'll find out?
[00:25:23]  Exactly.
[00:25:24]  I mean, it's an unfortunate truth.
[00:25:26]  So another unfortunate truth is that Alex gets on air and he just doesn't really have a handle on the situation that he's talking about.
[00:25:33]  The governor has said that he's going to ignore the lower court ruling, just like Democrats always do.
[00:25:39]  Even to the Supreme Court itself, because we have a right to self-defense that's in the Constitution in the Declaration of Independence.
[00:25:47]  Remember a few days ago, that's exactly what I read on air, was the Declaration of Independence, and that is what Abbott cites as well as the Constitution to the United States.
[00:25:57]  So we have the latest list.
[00:25:58]  More states are coming on board every few hours.
[00:26:01]  Very exciting.
[00:26:02]  In that 30-second clip, Alex makes two startlingly wrong statements.
[00:26:07]  Yeah.
[00:26:07]  Maybe just one.
[00:26:08]  The first is that Governor Abbott is ignoring the lower court's decision.
[00:26:12]  This whole thing started because the state of Texas sued the federal government to get them to stop cutting down the razor wire that they were setting up back in October.
[00:26:20]  This led to a Fifth Circuit Court ruling that the federal government was barred from cutting down the wire.
[00:26:25]  After that, the Supreme Court overruled that injunction, thus allowing federal agents to cut down the wire.
[00:26:30]  The decision that Abbott is ignoring is the Supreme Court one, not the lower court.
[00:26:34]  Right, right, right.
[00:26:35]  Alex either doesn't know anything about the story, or he's lying because he has some narrative branding in place where the Democrats are the ones who ignore the Supreme Court, whereas the right-wing Constitution lovers understand that they're the highest court in the land.
[00:26:46]  Naturally.
[00:26:46]  You gotta respect those rulings.
[00:26:48]  Well, there's only one court higher, and that is the Lord's Court.
[00:26:52]  Yep, Court of Heaven.
[00:26:53]  You bet.
[00:26:53]  Maritime Law.
[00:26:54]  Uh-huh.
[00:26:54]  Speaking of the Constitution, that brings me to the second wrong thing, although this might just be an instance of Alex speaking.
[00:26:59]  Sure.
[00:27:00]  Sounds like he's saying that the Declaration of Independence is in the Constitution.
[00:27:03]  I did sound a little bit like he was saying that.
[00:27:06]  He probably isn't saying that.
[00:27:06]  I just think he wasn't clear enough.
[00:27:08]  I mean, all I'm saying is that I don't think the Declaration of Independence is legally binding in 2024.
[00:27:13]  No.
[00:27:13]  And if Alex is really into the Constitution, he might not like it if Biden does end up using his constitutional power to federalize the Guard.
[00:27:20]  I wouldn't do it.
[00:27:20]  If they were in open disobedience of federal law in the Supreme Court, he has every right to do that, and then Alex is just going to call that tyranny.
[00:27:27]  This is how Alex's distorted understanding of the Constitution lends itself to being used to justify whatever he wants, no matter what.
[00:27:35]  If the Supreme Court says what he wants, it's the highest court in the land and no one can defy it.
[00:27:38]  If they say something he doesn't like, it's all bullshit, and he pretends their ruling came from a lower court.
[00:27:44]  National Guard to defy the federal government, that's totally constitutional.
[00:27:47]  But if Biden were to federalize the Guard due to rank insubordination, that would be tyranny.
[00:27:52]  Right.
[00:27:52]  There's no circumstance where Alex's beliefs aren't in line with what he thinks the Constitution says, because for him, the Constitution...
[00:27:58]  Constitution is a prop.
[00:27:59]  It operates mostly on vibes.
[00:28:01]  It's not the thing that his beliefs are based on.
[00:28:04]  It's the thing that he uses to give weight to his beliefs.
[00:28:07]  Right.
[00:28:08]  The not real.
[00:28:10]  Right, right, right.
[00:28:10]  When we think of the Constitution, we think of ourselves as a thing, and then we go outside, and then we look at the Constitution, which was written by other human beings.
[00:28:20]  When Alex thinks of the Constitution, he reaches inside of his heart, and he pulls out what he believes to be true.
[00:28:27]  And that's the Constitution.
[00:28:29]  Well, I think also Alex believes himself and his ideology to be what the Constitution is based on.
[00:28:35]  The spirit of it, yeah.
[00:28:36]  So even if the Constitution doesn't say what he thinks.
[00:28:38]  There were all those Democrats writing it at the time.
[00:28:41]  His version is more true than what the Constitution actually says.
[00:28:44]  The real patriots who were writing it then really wished they could have had this stuff in there.
[00:28:50]  I am an avatar of the Constitution, therefore I can never be opposed to it.
[00:28:56]  Yeah, and Alexander Hamilton was the...
[00:28:58]  Intellectual support for the Nazi party.
[00:29:00]  And one of the best rappers of all time.
[00:29:02]  Never been better.
[00:29:03]  So Alex talks a little bit, ends up with a very bizarre analogy about this situation.
[00:29:09]  Okay.
[00:29:09]  Operation Lone Star bolsters historic border security mission.
[00:29:14]  2023, this is directly from...
[00:29:15]  Of course they named it after a beer.
[00:29:17]  The state of Texas and the governor's office.
[00:29:18]  No one gives me the rest.
[00:29:20]  The total 14 states, Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Idaho, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma.
[00:29:25]  South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming have stepped up to support Texas' efforts and deployed personnel and resources to secure the border in President Biden's absence.
[00:29:41]  That's right, folks.
[00:29:43]  If you know your next-door neighbors and they've got two or three little kids and those little kids are running out of the house all day and...
[00:29:53]  Now it's nighttime and they're in the backyard crying.

=== Manifest Destiny Debate (15:58) ===

[00:29:56]  Wait.
[00:29:56]  You go over and you say, where are your parents?
[00:29:58]  Wait, what?
[00:29:58]  You say, we don't know.
[00:30:00]  And you say, well, in the absence of your parents, come on over here.
[00:30:02]  I don't like this story.
[00:30:03]  Parents, you start calling around to the family.
[00:30:07]  You go and get in their notebook in the house.
[00:30:10]  Normally that'd be breaking in the house, but you've got a clear and present emergency.
[00:30:13]  And you've got the notebook, phone numbers.
[00:30:15]  You start calling.
[00:30:16]  Hey, where are the Browns?
[00:30:17]  Or where are the Johnsons?
[00:30:18]  Or where are the Ramirez's?
[00:30:21]  They say, we don't know.
[00:30:23]  Then you call the police.
[00:30:25]  The border is not just wide open.
[00:30:27]  What?
[00:30:28]  The feds are down there catapulting the illegal aliens or fuel injecting them, supercharging them into the country.
[00:30:35]  I don't understand.
[00:30:36]  I don't understand at all.
[00:30:38]  I think Alex broke into his neighbor's house.
[00:30:40]  Is that the story?
[00:30:42]  That is such a specific series of events.
[00:30:46]  Yeah.
[00:30:47]  So I could honestly maybe...
[00:30:50]  Take that as an argument to allow immigrants in.
[00:30:54]  I mean, I guess to help them find where they're...
[00:30:58]  I don't know.
[00:30:59]  Right.
[00:31:00]  They're crying in the backyard.
[00:31:01]  They're crying in the backyard.
[00:31:02]  Come on in.
[00:31:03]  We'll figure out where it is you need to go.
[00:31:05]  Give me your tired.
[00:31:06]  You're crying in the backyard.
[00:31:08]  We've got a place in Arizona.
[00:31:10]  Check that out.
[00:31:11]  It's too hot.
[00:31:12]  Yeah, I don't fully understand.
[00:31:14]  I'm sure there was a metaphor that was attempting to be made there, but...
[00:31:18]  Didn't land.
[00:31:19]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:20]  Instead, it just sounded like a series of increasing insane things with a person being like...
[00:31:25]  It sounded like a confession.
[00:31:26]  You know how when that happens to you?
[00:31:29]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:31:30]  You know whenever you're getting some ice cream and then you chase a dog down the street and then you fight a homeless man?
[00:31:34]  You know how when that happens to you?
[00:31:35]  Oh, sure.
[00:31:36]  It's totally normal.
[00:31:36]  Regular stuff, yeah.
[00:31:39]  So, Alex doesn't want to secede, turns out.
[00:31:43]  Except he does.
[00:31:44]  Okay.
[00:31:44]  There's a lot of constitutional developments that are obviously going to come out of this, but I've said I don't want a secession, I don't want a civil war, I don't want to dissolve the country.
[00:31:52]  But the left knows they're putting all of us in a position to where we have a hijacked federal government.
[00:31:58]  We have to have the states pull out of the union and then have another convention and then reconstitute it again and have the states basically impeach the hijacked federal government.
[00:32:08]  And that's in the Declaration of Independence.
[00:32:10]  It's not just our right, it's our duty.
[00:32:11]  So there's a lot of ways.
[00:32:13]  To skin the cat.
[00:32:15]  Or skin the rabbit, as they say.
[00:32:19]  But we're going to be going over all of it here today.
[00:32:21]  Got some big guests as well.
[00:32:23]  Very exciting.
[00:32:24]  Some big guests.
[00:32:26]  Yeah.
[00:32:27]  So yeah, he does want to secede.
[00:32:29]  Sure.
[00:32:30]  You can pretend that there's some sort of highfalutin, we're going to dissolve this and reconstitute it.
[00:32:36]  Right.
[00:32:37]  Sure you are.
[00:32:37]  That makes sense.
[00:32:38]  But also, I mean, that would end up getting rid of that constitution you love so much, I would assume, because you'd have to write a new constitution.
[00:32:44]  All right.
[00:32:44]  You're starting an entirely new state.
[00:32:46]  Yeah.
[00:32:47]  I mean, just before we go any further with this idea of dissolving and then reconstituting.
[00:32:53]  Which is bullshit.
[00:32:55]  Yeah.
[00:32:56]  We're having a crisis over the border, quote-unquote, right now.
[00:33:00]  Now, imagine dissolving all the borders and then trying to reconstitute all of the borders.
[00:33:06]  It creates more of them.
[00:33:10]  I imagine you wouldn't end up with all of the states keeping their same borders.
[00:33:14]  I don't think they keep the same borders.
[00:33:15]  I bet people in Texas might think we should get more than what we have.
[00:33:20]  I mean, later in the episode, Alex is like, you know, Oklahoma's really just North Texas.
[00:33:24]  So yeah, I feel like maybe...
[00:33:26]  Yeah, I feel like I see where this is going.
[00:33:28]  I feel like Manifest Destiny is restarting in Texas.
[00:33:32]  But...
[00:33:33]  Weird.
[00:33:35]  Manifest Destiny, but make it weird.
[00:33:37]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:38]  Well, I really think for the people living here, Manifest Destiny was already pretty weird.
[00:33:43]  Well, I think the other issue, too, just is, quite frankly, the...
[00:33:48]  You know, you dissolve the country in Alex's imagination.
[00:33:51]  Then he imagines that we're all just going to come back together with this new constitutional convention.
[00:33:56]  I don't want to be in your country anymore.
[00:33:58]  Right.
[00:33:58]  It's ridiculous.
[00:33:59]  Okay, we're going to found our country on extreme right-wing principles.
[00:34:04]  Cool.
[00:34:04]  Like, you can't teach history of slavery.
[00:34:07]  Right.
[00:34:08]  And trans people are not allowed to exist.
[00:34:12]  People would not go along with that in a lot of states.
[00:34:14]  Right.
[00:34:15]  And then other people that say, we want to create a country that's based on tolerance and an understanding of historical deficiencies in our judgment and behaviors.
[00:34:24]  And then I wouldn't fly for people like Alex.
[00:34:27]  Here's my pitch.
[00:34:28]  Here's my pitch.
[00:34:29]  Alright?
[00:34:30]  We call it.
[00:34:31]  We call the bluff.
[00:34:32]  And this is my compact with America.
[00:34:35]  Alright?
[00:34:36]  Texas can secede, and they can have a little bit more of Texas.
[00:34:41]  You know, whatever you want.
[00:34:42]  Around the area.
[00:34:43]  Sort of like Putin taking a little bit of land here and there?
[00:34:46]  Sure, sure.
[00:34:46]  A little bit of Crimea, you can have that too.
[00:34:48]  Alright?
[00:34:49]  But, all right-wing assholes have to live there.
[00:34:53]  That's the rule.
[00:34:54]  There can be no border crossings if you're a right-wing piece of shit.
[00:34:58]  They respect borders.
[00:34:59]  Yeah, you love that shit.
[00:35:00]  Can't come back into the United States.
[00:35:02]  Ever.
[00:35:02]  It's over for you.
[00:35:04]  You either get to be a piece of shit...
[00:35:06]  And do your piece of shit stuff, or you get to live in the rest of society with the rest of us and enjoy stuff like phones.
[00:35:11]  I mean, conceptually, you make an interesting offer.
[00:35:14]  That's my pitch.
[00:35:15]  I'm not sure how that would work.
[00:35:17]  But you also do, like, legitimately have to...
[00:35:21]  It's so much fun for people like Alex to talk about this shit.
[00:35:24]  Yeah, no, it's way more fun.
[00:35:25]  The reality of what would go into it, the economic implications of it, are ridiculous.
[00:35:32]  No, I mean, this is a fundamental, like, you understand this is why the government cannot possibly work so long as people like this are allowed to vote themselves in.
[00:35:42]  They want to talk about government.
[00:35:44]  They don't want to do, like...
[00:35:46]  Actuarial shit.
[00:35:48]  Right.
[00:35:48]  They want to do publicity stunts.
[00:35:50]  Yeah, I want to fight the...
[00:35:51]  I've got a gun and a raccoon, you know.
[00:35:53]  They want to signal their virtues.
[00:35:55]  Yeah.
[00:35:56]  Hmm.
[00:35:57]  So this really, really depressed me.
[00:35:59]  Because we have a return of something that, you know, I think we've all been missing.
[00:36:04]  And it's squandered.
[00:36:06]  Ugh.
[00:36:08]  You can taste it.
[00:36:10]  You can see it.
[00:36:14]  You can face it.
[00:36:19]  You can hear it.
[00:36:23]  You're getting near it.
[00:36:28]  You want to make it.
[00:36:32]  Because you can take it.
[00:36:36]  You belong to the city.
[00:36:42]  It's Thursday, January 21st.
[00:36:44]  25th, 2024.
[00:36:46]  I'm Alex Jones, your host.
[00:36:48]  And the quickening is accelerating.
[00:36:51]  14 states have joined with Texas.
[00:36:54]  Many are sending their guard forces.
[00:36:58]  Biden is now openly threatening to nationalize the state guards and basically put the republic into a form of martial law.
[00:37:07]  Martial law.
[00:37:08]  Now, the very same UN NGOs that ran the replacement migration the last 15 years in Europe are running this one.
[00:37:13]  Wait, they already finished?
[00:37:14]  Info Wars was the first in 2004 to write detailed articles on replacement migration.
[00:37:19]  The first UN documents appear in 2000, 2001.
[00:37:22]  So again, I'm a little ashamed that, yeah, we were the first, but late.
[00:37:26]  But now we're here, and we know the enemy blueprint.
[00:37:30]  If you think a million people coming in every few months is bad, you've not seen anything yet.
[00:37:35]  The giant UN camps are being expanded all over northern South America into Central America.
[00:37:42]  The Communist Chinese, along with the U.S. government, are financing this treason.
[00:37:48]  Okay.
[00:37:49]  So what a waste if you belong to the city.
[00:37:51]  Yeah.
[00:37:52]  Also, in theory, isn't you belong to the city a message that Alex would not resonate with?
[00:37:56]  I was thinking exactly that.
[00:37:58]  Yeah.
[00:38:00]  I do not belong to the city.
[00:38:01]  I'm a free man.
[00:38:03]  Yeah, I just can't believe, like, there's such a longing for the city.
[00:38:06]  Mm-hmm.
[00:38:07]  Yeah.
[00:38:07]  Alice does not long for the city.
[00:38:09]  Well, I think he does.
[00:38:10]  Yeah.
[00:38:10]  He lives in fucking Austin.
[00:38:12]  Right?
[00:38:12]  But he doesn't long for the...
[00:38:14]  Which is exactly the secessionist point.
[00:38:17]  You know?
[00:38:17]  Oh, I love being a right-wing asshole.
[00:38:20]  I also love living in Austin, which is run by people who aren't stupid.
[00:38:24]  Yeah.
[00:38:24]  Yeah.
[00:38:25]  That's a dynamic.
[00:38:27]  So also, Alex says that there's a million people coming in every few months, and that's a number he's just not, it's not based in reality.
[00:38:34]  That would be insane.
[00:38:34]  There are about a million migrants that arrive in the country and come in per year.
[00:38:40]  Give or take.
[00:38:40]  Sure.
[00:38:41]  His numbers are just wrong.
[00:38:42]  Unless you're talking about that UN study from 2000, you're taking that and just pretending it's the globalist plan, which they're now carrying out, which is what Alex does.
[00:38:51]  Right, right, right.
[00:38:51]  This isn't a topic you can really talk sensibly with Alex about or the people who are in the same saber-rattling camp as him, because this is not a humanitarian and resource issue.
[00:39:01]  To them, this is literally an invasion.
[00:39:03]  Yeah.
[00:39:04]  This is the globalists attacking the white population of the United States by sending in a ton of military-aged men who will commit crimes but also vote, making sure that the GOP can never win another election again.
[00:39:14]  The position someone like Alex holds on this kind of an issue is a dead end in terms of debate or trying to get him to move even a little.
[00:39:21]  If you can demonstrate to him that the unauthorized immigrant population is approximately the same as it was in 2006, that's not gonna matter.
[00:39:29]  He's just gonna pull up a headline of some immigrant who committed a crime and then flash on screen a video of a ton of people who are trying to cross the Rio Grande River to apply for asylum.
[00:39:38]  There's nothing, no amount of sanity or calm explanation that's ever gonna work in a scenario like this because...
[00:39:44]  This intersects with a bedrock issue for Alex, his whiteness.
[00:39:47]  He may not use slurs, and he may try to keep the wild racism to a minimum on the show, but Alex definitely believes that the U.S. is a white country.
[00:39:56]  The migrants that are coming in on the southern border represent a threat to the power and security of his whiteness, and he feels like this is being done as an intentional attack by the globalists using these migrants as a weapon.
[00:40:07]  Alex's narratives are incapable of even treating them as people, because why should you leave water out to help a weapon get down?
[00:40:13]  Why should you have any humanitarian concern for a weapon?
[00:40:17]  So the whole premise and the paradigm within this argument lives within for Alex is one that you really just can't even discuss because it's non-negotiable.
[00:40:27]  Yeah, I mean, you can't change the context of an existential war.
[00:40:33]  You can only either exist or stop existing.
[00:40:36]  Right.
[00:40:36]  And for you to have any kind of a nuanced position that involves historical trends of immigration and this kind of stuff, you're siding with the weapon.
[00:40:46]  They're not pointing the truth.
[00:40:46]  You're siding with the weapon.
[00:40:48]  You would side with the weapon because you're a weapon.
[00:40:50]  Right.
[00:40:51]  Ah, fuck.
[00:40:52]  All right.
[00:40:53]  What this comes down to, too, is that Biden is on the way out.
[00:40:56]  Sure.
[00:40:57]  Now, all of this dovetails in with a whole bunch of mainstream news articles.
[00:41:03]  New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Yahoo.
[00:41:09]  They're all reporting that officially the Democrats are telling Biden to step down.
[00:41:14]  Sure.
[00:41:15]  And that Obama has basically taken control of the campaign.
[00:41:20]  Really?
[00:41:20]  What a weird thing for him to do.
[00:41:22]  Michael, as Obama calls her, Michael Obama.
[00:41:26]  ...being inserted in at the convention, but the word is Biden is refusing, actually trying to be the president.
[00:41:33]  Doesn't mean he's a good person, but he's like, I'm not a puppet.
[00:41:36]  The Obamas working to take Biden out of the race, Iraq telling him to quit.
[00:41:42]  Okay, so that's not something that can be done.
[00:41:44]  I know that Alex just needs a place to insert his transphobic jabs, and he has a lot of fun with that, and the audience enjoys it, but Michelle Obama can't just be slotted in to run for president.
[00:41:55]  That's stupid, and when the Krasenstein brothers explained to Alex why this isn't viable on that debate, he had no rebuttal.
[00:42:02]  He just sat there looking like an idiot.
[00:42:03]  And that actually illustrates a good point.
[00:42:05]  One of the reasons that debating Alex is pointless is because he has no respect for truth.
[00:42:10]  You can thoroughly reveal him to be dumb about a certain topic, crush his talking points, only for him to continue using those talking points.
[00:42:17]  And you go, but, but, but, but, I won the fight.
[00:42:20]  He doesn't care because he wasn't actually dunked on.
[00:42:33]  He got dunked on if you come from a place of caring about reality or truth, but Alex doesn't.
[00:42:38]  He only cares about what works for him in the moment.
[00:42:40]  You show him.
[00:42:41]  Showing him that he's wrong and knows zero about what he's talking about doesn't even make a dent because he knows that he can continue using this talking point to scare the audience about the idea that they could have a black trans woman as their president, which really gets all their grievance fears flowing.
[00:42:55]  Yeah.
[00:42:56]  This notion intersects with the ideas they have about the federal government, but also race and gender.
[00:43:01]  It's a powerful line of bullshit with Alex's audience, and that's why even if he's forced to admit that he doesn't think that Michelle Obama is trans before, which he has been forced to admit before, and he was just making bigoted jokes, he can just trot it back out pretending Yeah.
[00:43:18]  It is the greatest power of these shitheads that if you believe you are dunking on them, you are the one who is being dunked on.
[00:43:25]  Or at very least, wasting time.
[00:43:28]  Yeah.
[00:43:28]  You know, it's not necessarily a shame for you to do it.
[00:43:31]  On a cosmic sense, the dunking is upon you.
[00:43:34]  Alex knows that some random person can't just come in and take Biden's nomination of the presidency, but it's effective to the audience, so it will stay.
[00:43:42]  He knows that Michelle's a cis woman, but the idea that she's not plays into a lot of the racist and transphobic fears that animate his audience, so it will stay.
[00:43:52]  Obama didn't tell Biden to step aside or any of that shit.
[00:43:54]  He had a meeting with him to give some advice about how to pivot into the general election.
[00:43:58]  Alex can point to plenty of op-eds written by various people about how there shouldn't be another Biden-Trump election, and even some random people saying that Biden should step aside.
[00:44:06]  But Alex is severely overplaying this to the point where you can just say he may as well be making it up.
[00:44:12]  It's ridiculous.
[00:44:13]  No, that's...
[00:44:14]  Yeah, everybody needs to stop and remember and realize that for the rest of our lives, before we were born, until long after we're dead, we are going to constantly have to hear shitheads call black women who are powerful men.
[00:44:26]  That's going to be our lives forever.
[00:44:28]  Yep.
[00:44:29]  Yep.
[00:44:29]  And Alex makes the most of that racism, you know?
[00:44:33]  So, also, Trump won 2020.
[00:44:34]  Let's not forget that.
[00:44:35]  Great.
[00:44:36]  Trump won the last two presidential elections.
[00:44:38]  We know that.
[00:44:40]  And he's now won New Hampshire three times in a row.
[00:44:42]  Nobody's ever done that.
[00:44:44]  And he's going to win in a landslide.
[00:44:46]  They can't overpower that with mail-in ballots.
[00:44:49]  They can try it with digital systems, but when you've got such a huge majority of people voting for Trump, it's very hard to do.
[00:45:00]  Why?
[00:45:01]  They are going to try it with everything they've got.
[00:45:04]  So all of this ties in together.
[00:45:07]  No, it doesn't.
[00:45:08]  So I have some concerns that Alex's prediction could come true, that Trump could win 2024, but I want to point out that Trump is definitely not the first person to win the New Hampshire primary three times.
[00:45:17]  This was just a meme that was going around in right-wing social media, so it's likely that Alex saw that and then just decided...
[00:45:23]  That's research.
[00:45:23]  Sure.
[00:45:24]  In reality, Nixon won it three times, and FDR won it four times in a row.
[00:45:28]  He would have had to.
[00:45:29]  Well, he wouldn't have had to, but you know what I mean.
[00:45:31]  Yeah.
[00:45:32]  That said, it's good to hear that we won't have to put up with any mules and ballot harvesting conspiracies this year, since Alex says that's not a viable option.

=== Election Fraud Suspicions (15:53) ===

[00:45:39]  Yeah, that is nice.
[00:45:39]  He better be careful of what he says about the electronic stuff.
[00:45:42]  At least one of those companies is pretty good at suing people who talk shit.
[00:45:45]  Careful.
[00:45:46]  We'll see.
[00:45:47]  Yep.
[00:45:48]  Yeah.
[00:45:49]  So, you got Biden.
[00:45:51]  Yeah.
[00:45:51]  And then you got Abbott.
[00:45:53]  Sure.
[00:45:54]  Governor Abbott of Texas.
[00:45:55]  Right.
[00:45:55]  And they're in a standoff.
[00:45:57]  Sure.
[00:45:57]  Except they're not really, because Biden doesn't exist.
[00:46:01]  Interesting.
[00:46:01]  But it is extremely good news that Abbott has played a game of chicken with Obama, and I'm really going to just stop referring to it as Biden.
[00:46:09]  And Obama is a minion of the globalists, too, but he actually calls shots under their orders, but he's in command.
[00:46:16]  What does that even mean?
[00:46:18]  And by the way, he got elected both times.
[00:46:20]  He was popular.
[00:46:21]  He manipulated people.
[00:46:22]  When people win elections, we'll be honest about it.
[00:46:24]  But his job was to create division in the name of stopping division for the eventual end of this country.
[00:46:35]  As we know it.
[00:46:36]  You can almost feel Alex desperately trying to stop himself from saying race war.
[00:46:40]  Yeah, I mean, yeah, really.
[00:46:42]  He should just let it fly.
[00:46:43]  We already know that's what he thinks the globalists are supposed to have been shooting for under Obama.
[00:46:47]  He's very clear about that.
[00:46:48]  Also, he can go fuck himself with that Obama won clean stuff.
[00:46:51]  Here's a little sampler of Alex's take on Obama and election fraud.
[00:46:55]  I never said Barack Obama stole the election.
[00:46:58]  The evidence is they pretty much stole the election for Obama.
[00:47:02]  And that's what you see now.
[00:47:03]  They're going to go to full fraud.
[00:47:05]  And then Obama wants to sit there when he clearly stole the 2012 election.
[00:47:09]  And by the way, Trump tweeted and wrote letters the day after saying this is clearly fraud.
[00:47:14]  And so, listen, I didn't vote in the 2008 election because I said it's clear Obama's the chosen prince.
[00:47:22]  There'll be election fraud if he isn't.
[00:47:24]  Obama's got election fraud he can use.
[00:47:27]  He's got the Supreme Court that'll basically do whatever he wants if it becomes a contested election.
[00:47:32]  So this fraudulent election, Obama, this is a false mandate, they're saying, to carry out all of their different frauds.
[00:47:43]  The evidence shows even though Romney was a dead horse.
[00:47:47]  Still, he really beat Obama, the election fraud evidence shows.
[00:47:51]  And not that that would have been good.
[00:47:52]  Oh, man.
[00:47:53]  So, you know, you can pretend that he believed Obama won fair and square, because he needs to do this, because if he doesn't, he's kind of putting himself in a box where it seems like he just calls everything fraud, right?
[00:48:02]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:48:03]  It's easier to reminisce the longer elections go further, you know, the further back they are, the more you're like, oh, well, that's when they used to be real all the time.
[00:48:11]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:48:12]  There has to be at least one time when you're like, I hate this guy, but he won.
[00:48:15]  And Alex tries to re- So there's some other news that's flying around.
[00:48:39]  You know about Carrie Lake?
[00:48:40]  I do not know.
[00:48:41]  Who's Carrie Lake?
[00:48:42]  She ran for governor of Arizona, and then it was election fraud that she lost, and now she's running for the Senate.
[00:48:48]  Sure, good luck.
[00:48:50]  So there's a little bit of a conspiracy around her here.
[00:48:53]  What's in the Carrie Lake audio with the head of the RNC, the head of the Republican Party in Arizona?
[00:49:03]  She says, man, I'm really worried they're going to kill me.
[00:49:05]  He goes, yeah, there's a lot of...
[00:49:07]  Mexican Mafia and MS-13.
[00:49:10]  How many times have I told you, and it's come out, that the Democrats are using MS-13, the Mexican Mafia, and other cartels to kill people they don't like.
[00:49:23]  And that's why they're bringing them in and working with them and laundering money with them.
[00:49:29]  And they use them as muscle on the migrants, the illegals, that don't work slave labor, don't give their kids up for sex slavery.
[00:49:36]  Don't sign up with the right lawyers to pay them a big percentage of their paycheck that's fenced back in the Democratic Party.
[00:49:42]  So they're farming these illegal aliens just like they do homeless.
[00:49:45]  You see these homeless on fentanyl out there?
[00:49:47]  Some of them are bringing in $100,000 a year or more if they're disabled, and they get a small part of the money they get out of state, local, federal, and other monies, and most of it goes to the NGOs, non-governmental organizations.
[00:50:01]  Citation needed.
[00:50:03]  Wow.
[00:50:03]  Maybe Encarta?
[00:50:04]  Maybe he's basing this on Encarta?
[00:50:06]  Okay.
[00:50:06]  Now, I'm not saying this.
[00:50:09]  I'm just saying that sometimes I remember, like, when you're on a boat, man, you're on a boat, you're in the ocean for a long time.
[00:50:17]  It's like the 1700s.
[00:50:20]  You know, you gotta, it's just about survival at a certain point.
[00:50:23]  You know?
[00:50:24]  And, like, when a guy is talking this crazy, that guy's gotta not be on this boat no more.
[00:50:29]  You know?
[00:50:29]  Like, that's just where we're at with this guy.
[00:50:31]  This should be an unpleasant boat.
[00:50:32]  What are you talking about, sir?
[00:50:34]  You gotta get off this boat!
[00:50:35]  Right.
[00:50:37]  There are sharks outside.
[00:50:38]  I understand, and I don't like them...
[00:50:40]  The Democrats are on the sharks.
[00:50:42]  ...less than I don't like you.
[00:50:44]  Yeah, I think he needs proof of some of those assertions.
[00:50:47]  I would recommend it, yeah.
[00:50:48]  I feel like there are a lot of dangling threads in that there clip.
[00:50:52]  That was intense.
[00:50:52]  Still waiting on him to pull the chip out of a guy's arm that he promised to do years ago.
[00:50:57]  Oh, I'm really excited about that one.
[00:50:58]  He's just forgotten that one.
[00:50:59]  Yeah.
[00:51:00]  So what's going on here is that Carrie Lake, noted weirdo and person who lost the 2022 race for Arizona governor, is taking on a bit of a habit of secretly recording people.
[00:51:09]  And a recent exclusive that she gave to the Daily Mail.
[00:51:12]  Bad sign right out of the gate.
[00:51:14]  Why are we allowing this?
[00:51:16]  Alright, okay, keep going.
[00:51:18]  So the Daily Mail, she gave them the story, and she gave them the audio.
[00:51:21]  She's heard talking to the head of the GOP in Arizona, Jeff DeWitt, who appears to be attempting to bribe her to stop running for office, presumably referring to the current Senate running.
[00:51:31]  Sure.
[00:51:31]  Although, I don't know, I don't remember seeing what the date on this was, so it might have been her governor's race.
[00:51:36]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:51:37]  So in the clip, he says that there are powerful people who don't want her running, and is clearly talking about some people in the GOP who don't want their party to become the...
[00:51:44]  Sure.
[00:51:46]  What's happened here is that the Daily Mail released a heavily edited version of Lake's recording that includes this chunk right here.
[00:51:52]  They, there are very powerful people that want to keep you out.
[00:51:58]  I know they do.
[00:51:59]  But they're willing to put their money where their mouth is in a big way.
[00:52:04]  So, this conversation never happened.
[00:52:07]  This is crazy though.
[00:52:08]  They should want me.
[00:52:10]  I'm a great candidate.
[00:52:12]  People love me.
[00:52:13]  These people are corrupt.
[00:52:15]  Well, maybe you're right.
[00:52:18]  Who the fuck is this guy?
[00:52:21]  Yeah.
[00:52:36]  Oh my god.
[00:52:44]  So...
[00:52:44]  So what's going on?
[00:52:46]  Who is it?
[00:52:47]  Forget the who.
[00:52:52]  What is that?
[00:52:53]  He seems like he's a little speedy.
[00:52:55]  What is that shit?
[00:52:57]  Oh my god.
[00:52:58]  It seems pretty clear that some of this is at least a little patched together.
[00:53:01]  I do think that he is maybe trying to bribe her, though.
[00:53:03]  I mean, I don't care.
[00:53:05]  That might very well be.
[00:53:05]  I don't care.
[00:53:06]  Whatever it is that guy is saying, you need to get away from him.
[00:53:09]  Listen to the man talk!
[00:53:10]  Now they're going to be right.
[00:53:11]  Hey.
[00:53:12]  They're willing to back it up in a big way.
[00:53:14]  Don't worry about who.
[00:53:15]  I don't care.
[00:53:16]  I don't care what you have to say.
[00:53:17]  You got to go.
[00:53:18]  Creep.
[00:53:19]  It just seems like a very strange path for the conversation to follow.
[00:53:22]  Like, he offers her a job to drop out of the race, and if she says no, that's totally cool, but just be quiet about it.
[00:53:27]  Right.
[00:53:27]  Then Carrie says that she's going to be killed over this, and DeWitt essentially says that the cartels will get her.
[00:53:32]  Yeah.
[00:53:32]  And then calmly Carrie asks who the job offer is from.
[00:53:35]  Right.
[00:53:35]  I need to hear the raw version of this before I'm going to jump to any conclusions.
[00:53:38]  It feels staged at the very...
[00:53:40]  At the very least, why are you grandstanding about how much they should want you?
[00:53:44]  I don't think it's staged.
[00:53:46]  She knows she's recording, so her side of it is essentially staged.
[00:53:49]  That's what I'm saying, yeah.
[00:53:50]  But it's not staged on his end, because he ended up resigning after this came out.
[00:53:55]  Well, he should never have been there in the first place.
[00:53:58]  If that's how you're talking to people, everybody should have seen that in advance.
[00:54:02]  You're acting like a guy in a movie trying to make a bribe.
[00:54:04]  You're the most bribing guy there's ever been!
[00:54:07]  How did you get this far?
[00:54:09]  I need more context.
[00:54:11]  I need the full version of this.
[00:54:12]  But not Alex.
[00:54:13]  The optics really work for him.
[00:54:14]  So they're determined this is 100% confirmed reality.
[00:54:18]  And then there's all that stuff about migrants and people experiencing homelessness that he said.
[00:54:23]  He's not proven any of that stuff.
[00:54:24]  But it's all vibe.
[00:54:25]  It works for the vibe.
[00:54:26]  So it's true.
[00:54:27]  Here's what makes me so angry.
[00:54:29]  All right?
[00:54:30]  What's up?
[00:54:30]  Now, these people shit-talk the cartels all the time.
[00:54:34]  All the time.
[00:54:35]  Because they're so evil.
[00:54:36]  But...
[00:54:37]  Our big problem isn't that they're evil.
[00:54:39]  It's that they run so much better than these idiots who are trying to catch them.
[00:54:43]  Like, can you believe this?
[00:54:45]  Here's what a cartel guy says whenever there's a conversation where he's like, this conversation never happened.
[00:54:51]  Here's what the cartel guy says.
[00:54:52]  Nothing!
[00:54:53]  The conversation doesn't happen!
[00:54:55]  Somebody else has the conversation because they don't get caught!
[00:54:59]  You'd have to be an idiot to say this conversation never happened.
[00:55:03]  Well, here's the issue that you're trying to get to the nub of.
[00:55:07]  They're better at crime.
[00:55:09]  They're better at crime!
[00:55:10]  Yes, and when there's corrupt people here doing this shit, it is embarrassing.
[00:55:14]  And I'm sure the cartel would laugh at this.
[00:55:16]  I wish I would be disappointed if I was the cartel.
[00:55:19]  I'd be like, man, we could really run this country pretty well.
[00:55:22]  So Alex talks a little bit more shit.
[00:55:24]  And the hottest thing for over 20 years is not to be a social worker, to be an NGO.
[00:55:31]  And then you get set up in this and put a different community organizer system.
[00:55:36]  What is Obama?
[00:55:38]  Guys, cue up the clip.
[00:55:40]  Obama says we need a domestic security force just as big and just as strong as our military.
[00:55:44]  Said it in 2007 when he was running for office.
[00:55:49]  And they even tried to have, we have the videos, Of the Obama domestic security force training, where it's literal black kids, brainwashed to be racist, chanting, Obama is our leader, we're going to take over America.
[00:56:02]  Now that program he launched didn't fly.
[00:56:04]  It's too ridiculous.
[00:56:05]  I agree.
[00:56:07]  Too ridiculous.
[00:56:08]  Who called it too ridiculous?
[00:56:10]  Who called it too ridiculous?
[00:56:11]  Obama was looking over and was like, this is too ridiculous.
[00:56:13]  This one's too ridiculous, even for me.
[00:56:16]  I like the spirit of this, but it is too ridiculous.
[00:56:18]  I have tons of kooky plans, but this one's too much.
[00:56:21]  Rahm Emanuel maybe came in and was like, too ridiculous.
[00:56:24]  No.
[00:56:24]  So, Alex, that was just a bunch of nonsense.
[00:56:28]  Yeah, what are you going to respond to that with?
[00:56:30]  But Alex reads Governor Abbott's statement.
[00:56:34]  And we're going to cut in in media res of that.
[00:56:37]  And Alex is starting to wrestle with an inherent issue with his coverage.
[00:56:42]  And this is going to be a big problem once callers start getting into the mix.
[00:56:46]  But Alex has been a bit critical of Abbott.
[00:56:51]  Because, you know, he went along with some of the COVID stuff.
[00:56:55]  He is a pseudo-globalist in Alex's worldview.
[00:56:59]  Right, right, right.
[00:57:00]  If you are following Alex and paying attention historically, he's not been somebody who's like, yeah, Abbott's the kind of guy who's going to have a showdown with the federal government.
[00:57:08]  Abbott's not at the Alamos where we were.
[00:57:11]  Yes.
[00:57:11]  Now it appears that Abbott built the Alamo.
[00:57:14]  Yeah, and so this tension is going to be a little bit of an issue, and Alex tries to, I think, preemptively deal with that here.
[00:57:20]  The failure of the Biden administration to fulfill its duties imposed by Article 4, Section 4, has triggered Article 1, Clause 10, Article 1, 10, Clause 3, which reserves to the state the right to self-defense.
[00:57:34]  For these reasons, I have already declared an invasion under Article 1, 10, Clause 3 to invoke Texas Constitutional Authority to defend and protect itself.
[00:57:44]  The authority in the supreme law of the land and supersedes all federal statutes to the contrary.
[00:57:50]  The Texas National Guard, the Texas Department of Public Safety, and other Texas personnel are acting on that authority as well as state law to secure the Texas border.
[00:58:00]  Bravo, Greg Abbott, baby.
[00:58:02]  That's the shot heard around the world right there.
[00:58:06]  And I've told people this 5,000 times, and I'll say it again.
[00:58:10]  When things get rough, we're going to think people who are against us are going to learn they're actually for us.
[00:58:15]  And people who thought were for us are going to learn they're against us.
[00:58:17]  And people are going to have times of conscience when it gets so clear how bad it is that they're going to join us.
[00:58:22]  And at that point when you get real action, we need to not completely trust them and don't turn our backs on them, but don't get in the way of what's going on because this is good.
[00:58:30]  And this is real.
[00:58:32]  And we should be talking about how we're going to back this and how we're going to support this because we've been put into a UN country collapsing emergency.
[00:58:41]  With these tens of millions of people to be organized into a permanent political voting block and political action block and a violent block.
[00:58:48]  And what did the head of the Republican Party threaten Carrie Lake with?
[00:58:52]  She said, I think they're going to kill me.
[00:58:54]  I've been getting threats.
[00:58:55]  She says, yeah, yeah, the cartels will kill you.
[00:58:58]  Who do you think the cartels work for, boys and girls?
[00:59:01]  Who do they work for?
[00:59:03]  Turns out the CIA.
[00:59:05]  Sure.
[00:59:05]  But yeah, so I think that you have an essential plea to like, guys, this works.
[00:59:13]  This works for us.
[00:59:14]  Don't get caught up in the shit that we don't like Abbott that much.
[00:59:18]  Sure.
[00:59:19]  Calm down.
[00:59:20]  Right, right, right.
[00:59:20]  Calm down.
[00:59:21]  We can exploit this.
[00:59:24]  I do appreciate the speed with which rats can escape.
[00:59:30]  Somehow, you and I are both standing there on the boat going like, maybe we can fix this, and the rats are long gone.
[00:59:37]  Alex is like, hey, fuck it.
[00:59:39]  We've hated Abbott in the past.
[00:59:40]  Who cares?
[00:59:41]  Let's go!
[00:59:41]  Let's go!
[00:59:42]  We gotta go!
[00:59:42]  We gotta go!
[00:59:43]  We gotta get there now!
[00:59:44]  We gotta go!
[00:59:45]  He had a secret coming to the Lord moment.
[00:59:48]  Let's go!
[00:59:48]  We gotta go!
[00:59:50]  Move.
[00:59:50]  This is a tense situation that could break in our favor and be really fucked up.
[00:59:55]  Absolutely.
[00:59:56]  And here's the thing.
[00:59:57]  It could get even crazier.
[00:59:59]  It's just gonna get wilder.
[01:00:01]  And crazier from here on out.
[01:00:03]  But at least people know what's going on.
[01:00:05]  And now 14 states have signed on, and a bunch of the states are sending their National Guard down here.
[01:00:11]  And will they stop at all, or will it be perfect?
[01:00:13]  But no.
[01:00:14]  At least we're drawing attention to it, and the governor is creating a constitutional crisis where he knows he's in the right to get all the support across the country and to spotlight that Biden is now, oh, Biden, Talking about nationalizing the State Guard, which he can only do to stop invasion, so that it'll facilitate an invasion, and then in comes the Supreme Court.
[01:00:38]  And yeah, are they getting blackmailed at a certain level?
[01:00:41]  We know they are.
[01:00:41]  But if they see everything shifting our way...
[01:00:46]  They will flip over to our side.
[01:00:47]  That's what I explain to people.
[01:00:49]  Oh, so they're not motivated by the law.
[01:00:50]  They're motivated by vibes.
[01:00:52]  And, like, if you have a big enough crowd, the Supreme Court's like, oh, hey.
[01:00:55]  Do you know what?
[01:00:56]  Here's what's bumming me out.
[01:00:58]  These are gun people having word talks, and I don't like it.
[01:01:01]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:01:02]  Like, what are you doing talking to me about how he can invoke article blankety blank of...
[01:01:09]  We're putting up razor wire and holding guns at people.
[01:01:12]  What are you doing?
[01:01:13]  Yeah.
[01:01:13]  Stop that.
[01:01:13]  Well, I think you're trying to intellectualize the brutality of what's going on and the fact that you just want to exploit it for money.

=== Psychic Predictions and Demolition Plans (11:40) ===

[01:01:20]  Yeah, stop this.
[01:01:21]  Like, you see the people on social media, people like Tim Pool and shit, have been posting about this with links to their food, their survival food.
[01:01:30]  Seriously?
[01:01:31]  Yeah.
[01:01:31]  Oh, my God.
[01:01:32]  So, you know, you have those folks, and it's clear.
[01:01:35]  It's like, oh, you would really like for this to get worse and to get crazy.
[01:01:38]  because that feeds into your marketing paradigm.
[01:01:41]  Right.
[01:01:42]  And Alex is no different, and I think he can tell that.
[01:01:45]  Yep.
[01:01:45]  And also, a couple quick points about that flight of fancy.
[01:01:48]  The Supreme Court has already decided on this.
[01:01:50]  By the time Alex was on air, he should have every reason to know that there's no reason not to.
[01:01:54]  He was on the internet.
[01:01:55]  And he's either woefully uninformed or he's lying because acknowledging that the Supreme Court already had decided about this would hurt his narrative.
[01:02:02]  Second, an invasion is absolutely not the only reason that Biden could nationalize the Guard.
[01:02:07]  There are tons of reason, and brazen insubordination and refusal to cooperate with a Supreme Court decision is within that range.
[01:02:14]  Alex fucking understands this.
[01:02:15]  He and his buddies all wanted Trump to invoke the insurrection.
[01:02:18]  Direction Act over mail-in ballots so he can calm the fuck down.
[01:02:21]  This is ridiculous.
[01:02:22]  It's embarrassing.
[01:02:23]  No, that's what I'm saying.
[01:02:25]  It is so annoying.
[01:02:27]  What are you doing telling me about a clause?
[01:02:31]  You're supposed to be gun people.
[01:02:33]  You're supposed to be shooting.
[01:02:34]  Come on.
[01:02:36]  I think you lose the public if you go gun first.
[01:02:41]  But hey, man.
[01:02:42]  You want to hear something?
[01:02:44]  Yeah, let's do it.
[01:02:46]  I did a review today that's going to air tomorrow on the Mug Club for people that sign up at jonescrowder.com.
[01:02:52]  A review of Demolition Man made in 1993.
[01:02:55]  Okay, well, now I'm back.
[01:02:56]  And you watch that movie and the family's banned and virtual reality runs your life and you say, how did they predict this?
[01:03:04]  Because they're telling you what they were going to build.
[01:03:06]  What do the three seashells do?
[01:03:09]  Come on, buddy.
[01:03:10]  They're throwing it in your face, people.
[01:03:12]  They're throwing it in your face.
[01:03:14]  They're throwing it in your face with Demolition Man.
[01:03:15]  Demolition Man is predictive programming.
[01:03:17]  With Sylvester Stallone.
[01:03:19]  You go see Demolition Man and they laugh.
[01:03:22]  They laugh at you.
[01:03:25]  What a great movie.
[01:03:26]  What a truly great movie.
[01:03:28]  Don't know if I've seen it in many, many years.
[01:03:31]  It's been a long time, but man, Wesley Snipes commits.
[01:03:34]  Sure.
[01:03:34]  Every single step of the way.
[01:03:36]  So, Alex, in this next clip, he starts off bragging about his show a little bit.
[01:03:41]  Sure.
[01:03:42]  He gets some stuff wrong, and then he goes nuts.
[01:03:45]  This show studies the actual controllers on their plants and also studies systems that are pro-human to counter it, and that's what I do.
[01:03:56]  I cover the real world.
[01:03:58]  I cover the reality.
[01:04:00]  That's why they don't want you tuned in.
[01:04:02]  That's why they don't want you sharing the links.
[01:04:03]  Because if you ever figure out what they're up to and how horrible it is for you and your family, you are going to reject it.
[01:04:10]  And this whole broadcast is about believing in you.
[01:04:16]  So, I knew when Governor Abbott went down there and blocked illegals at one entry point coming in, that the feds would take the bait and come try to block it.
[01:04:23]  But the Border Patrol has refused to get in physical confrontations with the Texas Guard, and now Abbott is blocking off more of the border, and now 14 states have joined him, and now seven states are sending troops.
[01:04:35]  Do you realize the history you're living in right now?
[01:04:41]  This isn't some movie about the states joining up against the feds like they have coming out next month.
[01:04:49]  Or all the other TV shows promoting it.
[01:04:51]  And branding it as racist and evil and bad.
[01:04:54]  This is happening under the Constitution and is real and is good.
[01:05:02]  And will Governor Abbott's operation save us?
[01:05:05]  No.
[01:05:05]  But all of this resistance together will.
[01:05:08]  And this isn't a tiny cut against the New World Order.
[01:05:11]  This is a big one.
[01:05:13]  And the fact that all these states piled on now and are sending troops...
[01:05:21]  Is massively positive.
[01:05:22]  Now here's the problem.
[01:05:23]  What's the problem?
[01:05:24]  If I was the new world order.
[01:05:26]  If I was the devil, as Paul Harvey would say.
[01:05:28]  If I was stupid.
[01:05:29]  What would you do right now?
[01:05:31]  You'd be activating a group.
[01:05:32]  If I had a million.
[01:05:35]  Of drugged out wackos they've been funding and controlling for years.
[01:05:38]  You know they got a bunch of them.
[01:05:39]  Sure.
[01:05:40]  To go set off a truck bomb at a migrant center on the border.
[01:05:44]  Or a mass shooting.
[01:05:46]  Okay.
[01:05:47]  Or maybe they assassinate Biden because he's refusing.
[01:05:49]  To step down.
[01:05:50]  A little bit of an escalation there.
[01:05:58]  My mother never gets involved in politics.
[01:06:02]  She's a Christian and a historian and a really smart person, and she's just very private.
[01:06:08]  But my mother, for three years, has told me they're going to assassinate Biden to bring in martial law.
[01:06:18]  Because the spirit has told her.
[01:06:21]  And she's been very, very direct about it.
[01:06:26]  And my mother is dialed in and does have the touch.
[01:06:30]  But you can politically see all this and know that's in the cards.
[01:06:35]  I have a show that we talk about reality.
[01:06:37]  There are secret messages and demolition by end of my mom's a psychic.
[01:06:40]  I swear to you, the moment that he said that, I had this vision of the Superman 2 ending of like zooming out and there's me trapped in the phantom zone next to Alex and him being like, we cover reality!
[01:06:52]  And me just going, ah!
[01:06:53]  As I spin through space in the void forever.
[01:06:56]  That felt dark.
[01:06:59]  It's fun for Alex to pump himself up about how serious and right he is and how his mom's a psychic, but the reality is he's got basics of this story wrong.
[01:07:06]  Abbott and the Texas Guard didn't just put up razor wire at Eagle Pass.
[01:07:09]  They put miles and miles of it up.
[01:07:11]  The only reason this point is different than somewhere else is because there's a border patrol station there, and they took issue with not being able to be in control of the country's border.
[01:07:20]  It's important for Alex's version to distort some of these details because...
[01:07:27]  Which is why Alex isn't even familiar with the real details, much less reporting them.
[01:07:39]  And that stuff about whacked-out drug gangs and the globalists having them on the payroll?
[01:07:43]  This is just preemptive narrative building that Alex is doing because he knows that there's a high likelihood of some kind of extremist or accelerationist on his side of the street seeing this as a prime opportunity to escalate things by committing an act of domestic terror.
[01:07:56]  He knows this fully well, and he knows the kind of shitheads that he hangs out with, how they're itching to get into a fight with the federal government, so he needs to make sure that if that does happen, his propaganda revenue stream stays intact.
[01:08:08]  The best way to do that is to preemptively declare any horrible shit your side might do as a false flag meant to make you look bad.
[01:08:14]  He does this all the time, and it's a pretty savvy way to incite people towards violence and then pretend to be the victim of it when it does happen.
[01:08:22]  It's pretty slick.
[01:08:24]  Yeah.
[01:08:25]  Yeah.
[01:08:26]  You think they are going to really, really have fun fighting the federal government?
[01:08:32]  For a minute.
[01:08:33]  I think a minute is about as long as I can have fun doing it.
[01:08:35]  Yeah, I feel great for a minute.
[01:08:37]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:08:37]  We're doing it, guys!
[01:08:38]  Yep.
[01:08:39]  How long did it take for me to say, we're doing it, guys?
[01:08:43]  That's about how long it'll be fun for.
[01:08:45]  Yeah.
[01:08:46]  So, what do you think about Alex's mom being a psychic?
[01:08:50]  I buy it!
[01:08:51]  Okay.
[01:08:52]  I'm in!
[01:08:53]  Alright, well, this next clip is totally unnecessary because Alex is defensive about it.
[01:08:58]  And there's a lot of kooky psychics on TV.
[01:09:02]  Gypsy wagons on the side of the road.
[01:09:04]  My mother and her grandmother were not like that.
[01:09:07]  But I'll just tell you something I've never been told before on air.
[01:09:09]  My mother's grandmother in Dallas, Texas, was an extremely famous psychic, secretly, with the establishment, and was one of the advised presidents, you name it.
[01:09:21]  And she was psychic.
[01:09:22]  I mean, extremely.
[01:09:24]  And my mother is extremely psychic.
[01:09:27]  And let's just say I got a little of that.
[01:09:29]  But I don't just need that.
[01:09:31]  I can politically see it all, and then the Holy Spirit's what it is.
[01:09:34]  Tells you the rest of what's going to happen.
[01:09:36]  But she has had dreams.
[01:09:39]  What is the order of operations?
[01:09:40]  Three years.
[01:09:41]  She's grabbed me by the arm and said, you gotta tell them they're gonna kill Biden right before the election.
[01:09:49]  So I told you the story.
[01:09:51]  And it's true.
[01:09:51]  Alex is pretending he's never told that story on air.
[01:09:53]  He's told that.
[01:09:54]  At least a few times.
[01:09:55]  So many times, yeah.
[01:09:56]  Not as many as the chicken fried steak.
[01:09:58]  Sure.
[01:09:58]  But he has told that story before, for sure.
[01:10:00]  Yeah, it's not one of his top legend stories.
[01:10:02]  My great-grandmother was a secret psychic to the stars.
[01:10:06]  Every time somebody says, my blank was secretly famous, I want to throw a punch.
[01:10:13]  Sure.
[01:10:13]  Just as a violence towards language kind of thing.
[01:10:15]  Like, I like words.
[01:10:16]  It's tough to be secretly famous.
[01:10:18]  Reword it.
[01:10:18]  Reword it.
[01:10:19]  You can be influential secretly.
[01:10:20]  Totally.
[01:10:21]  So we get back to this question of the Obamas trying to get rid of Biden.
[01:10:25]  Sure.
[01:10:26]  And Alex got a little specific with it, and I found something curious.
[01:10:30]  Okay.
[01:10:31]  But I read the New York Times and the Washington Post and all of them.
[01:10:35]  There's a boil down right here in Red State that they're telling him to step down.
[01:10:39]  And we told you months ago from our sources that was happening.
[01:10:42]  Now it's mainstream news.
[01:10:43]  And he's saying, no, I'm the president.
[01:10:45]  Not a puppet.
[01:10:47]  Because they want to get Big Mike ready to put in there.
[01:10:50]  What's going to happen when they kill Biden and blame it on us?
[01:10:54]  What are we going to do?
[01:10:57]  Report the Obama's working to take Biden out of the race.
[01:11:02]  Barack telling him to quit.
[01:11:04]  So this is an article on the website Red State.
[01:11:07]  There we go!
[01:11:20]  One wonders why there's so many layers of editorializing here.
[01:11:23]  Why you couldn't just cut to the core of this and say this was published without any proof in the National Enquirer?
[01:11:29]  Possibly because you would know then you don't need to take this seriously.
[01:11:33]  That's probably why they did it this way.
[01:11:35]  Yeah.
[01:11:35]  Best case scenario, Alex is reporting on this story from Red State, which is fourth-hand reporting itself.
[01:11:41]  Yeah.
[01:11:41]  This is a pathetic game of telephone.
[01:11:43]  Yeah.
[01:11:45]  Like, you know, don't run.
[01:11:52]  You're a hundred million years old.
[01:11:54]  This is a terrible job for a hundred million year old man to have.
[01:11:57]  Yeah, I think there's some sense in that.
[01:12:00]  Like, as a caring for a person kind of thing, you know?
[01:12:03]  I mean, there were stories that came out of Obama saying, don't run in the 2020 election.
[01:12:11]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:12:11]  Yeah, but superimposing them onto now as some kind of a grand conspiracy is ridiculous.
[01:12:16]  Yeah.
[01:12:17]  And that's what Alex is doing.
[01:12:18]  Yeah.
[01:12:18]  Using a fifth-hand source.
[01:12:20]  Brutal.
[01:12:21]  So anyway, Alex is not...
[01:12:23]  Not...
[01:12:24]  What?
[01:12:25]  Not...
[01:12:26]  No.
[01:12:26]  ...in favor of Texas becoming its own country.
[01:12:29]  He's not in favor of that.
[01:12:31]  Oh...
[01:12:32]  And here's the schmizzle.
[01:12:33]  About a year ago, interviewed, and it's actually on the ballot coming up soon in Texas, should we secede?
[01:12:39]  People that don't know Texas history, we're called the Lone Star State.

=== Right to Secede (13:32) ===

[01:12:42]  Because in our treaty to enter the United States, even before the Civil War, we had the right written in to leave the Union and go back to being our own country if we ever wanted to.
[01:12:54]  Now, I don't want Texas to be its own country.
[01:12:56]  It's not how that works, man.
[01:12:57]  But if we have to invoke the powers of the states to pull out of the government, To reconstitute it without having a violent civil war and the Democrats are hyping, then that's something that needs to happen.
[01:13:08]  That's ridiculous.
[01:13:10]  Just patently ridiculous.
[01:13:12]  I just want to try and...
[01:13:13]  These are people...
[01:13:14]  Like, okay.
[01:13:15]  Let me try and understand this.
[01:13:18]  You could call seceding being like, hey, we were all hanging out at this table and we have decided...
[01:13:24]  That we are done being at this table and we shall go.
[01:13:27]  But in reality, what seceding would be would be a bunch of people who have nothing to do with this fucking table, who just showed up at the table, who didn't build the table, who were part of the table, all this stuff, and who've just been eating off of the table going like, we're going to rip off a bunch of this table and then leave with it and there's nothing you can do about it.
[01:13:47]  You know who's at that table?
[01:13:48]  All the other people?
[01:13:49]  They're going to be mad because they love that table.
[01:13:52]  Yeah, it was their table.
[01:13:53]  It was a really important table to them.
[01:13:55]  Yeah.
[01:13:56]  I was trying to think of an analogy like there's a party.
[01:13:59]  Sure.
[01:14:00]  A bunch of people at this party.
[01:14:01]  A bunch of people.
[01:14:01]  Half of them like to smoke weed and half of them like to drink.
[01:14:04]  Hey.
[01:14:04]  And they can't...
[01:14:05]  They can't get it together about what the party is about.
[01:14:08]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[01:14:09]  So they decide, we're all going to leave, and then we're going to reconstitute this party.
[01:14:15]  We'll all go get high elsewhere.
[01:14:17]  Do you think that this is going to get solved?
[01:14:19]  I don't think so.
[01:14:20]  Central tension is still going to...
[01:14:22]  I don't think it's going to go well.
[01:14:23]  So Alex takes a bit of time talking about Tucker Carlson.
[01:14:27]  He went to Canada, and he gave a speech where he was spouting a bunch of bigoted bullshit.
[01:14:31]  Can we allow him in Canada?
[01:14:32]  Apparently so.
[01:14:34]  So Alex just obsesses about the crowd size and how popular Tucker is.
[01:14:38]  Right, right, right.
[01:14:39]  And so we don't need to care about that.
[01:14:41]  But just to note that that did happen, he was obsessed with the crowd.
[01:14:44]  There's a big crowd.
[01:14:45]  So we get to the callers.
[01:14:47]  Sure.
[01:14:47]  First one, not great.
[01:14:48]  Not great.
[01:14:49]  Michael in North Carolina, you're on the air.
[01:14:51]  Welcome.
[01:14:52]  Hi, Alex.
[01:14:53]  Great to talk to you.
[01:14:54]  Yes, sir.
[01:14:56]  I think we should let nature handle this problem.
[01:15:00]  Every day that they let 800 people into this country, we should turn 800 alligators loose in that river.
[01:15:07]  See how fast they stop coming across.
[01:15:10]  Well, I don't think we've got anybody that can wrangle 800 alligators.
[01:15:13]  You know, the people being brought in are refugees from globalist policies of the lockdown.
[01:15:17]  I'm not even their enemy.
[01:15:18]  I bet we do have people who can wrangle 800 alligators.
[01:15:21]  What else is on your mind, Michael?
[01:15:22]  I just think that they're going to form it and make an army against us.
[01:15:25]  I think that's what their plan is.
[01:15:27]  At some point in time, they're going to blow the whistle and they're going to congregate.
[01:15:31]  Well, they're all given government phones and NGO phones, and they are announcing legal aliens will be the new military and police, so that's actually true.
[01:15:38]  That's not speculation.
[01:15:40]  Oh, it is true.
[01:15:42]  They're forming an army against us.
[01:15:43]  Yep.
[01:15:44]  Oh, okay.
[01:15:45]  Dan, Dan, one day, quote, they're all going to whistle.
[01:15:51]  Mm-hmm.
[01:15:51]  Then they'll be around you.
[01:15:53]  The Obama phones that they got will go off, and then another person, I don't think I cut this clip because it was getting redundant, but somebody is like, I think that the power will go out, and that's when everyone will know, all the immigrants will know to attack and kill off the population.
[01:16:08]  Like, all right, man.
[01:16:09]  Yeah, but we're getting the temperature of some of Alex's audience here.
[01:16:13]  They want to release alligators on migrants.
[01:16:15]  Which at least, I mean, Alex is not caring about the humanity of these people.
[01:16:20]  But at least he gives some tepid pushback to, let's release the hounds.
[01:16:25]  I appreciate...
[01:16:28]  A strange aspect of our lives, the contract that we have made with all of these types of folk, is that that guy is going to deliberately say exactly what it is he means.
[01:16:39]  He is going to give us all an acknowledgement of his lack of care for other human beings.
[01:16:46]  These migrants will stop coming if they see their friends and family killed by alligators while we watch.
[01:16:51]  Right.
[01:16:51]  We've all agreed.
[01:16:53]  That the way we're going to deal with that is say, ha ha ha, and then walk away.
[01:16:58]  That's certainly what Alex did.
[01:16:59]  As opposed to being like, that man is a murderer waiting for his chance.
[01:17:04]  He is, in the right circumstances, an alligator murderer.
[01:17:08]  Yep, yep, yep.
[01:17:09]  So we get another caller, and this guy seems like a real dickhead.
[01:17:12]  Let's talk to folks in Hawaii.
[01:17:13]  Paul in Hawaii, what's your view on this?
[01:17:16]  Hi, Alex.
[01:17:17]  I agree 100% with what...
[01:17:20]  What Texas is doing.
[01:17:22]  I think they have every right to do that.
[01:17:23]  I think every state should be doing it.
[01:17:26]  Okay, then get out of Hawaii.
[01:17:27]  I mean, yeah.
[01:17:28]  Here's the problem.
[01:17:30]  Here's the problem with these kinds of idiots is that once you start saying, I think it's right for these people to do that, then you have to ask yourself the question, if it was not my people doing this...
[01:17:41]  Yeah, get out of Hawaii.
[01:17:42]  You can't be there.
[01:17:42]  What do I think is right?
[01:17:44]  Yeah.
[01:17:44]  Get!
[01:17:45]  Yeah, and if that's the case, and if you want to argue that, that is fine with me.
[01:17:49]  You're going to end up getting to some uncomfortable conclusions that you probably won't stand behind.
[01:17:54]  Right!
[01:17:55]  That's kind of where I'm struggling with this type of thing, with this 800 alligator guy.
[01:18:00]  That's a different guy.
[01:18:01]  No, I know, I know.
[01:18:02]  Just making sure.
[01:18:03]  In a larger metaphorical sense.
[01:18:05]  It doesn't matter who that guy is.
[01:18:07]  But that idea of like, there is a resolution to this.
[01:18:13]  But we don't want to go there.
[01:18:15]  You know?
[01:18:16]  Like, realistically, there's only one way to deal with a guy who truly believes that killing a bunch of migrants is going to be the only way to keep us from having more migrants.
[01:18:27]  There's just, you know...
[01:18:28]  Well...
[01:18:30]  Time.
[01:18:31]  Exactly.
[01:18:32]  Or at least limiting their exposure to the rest of the fucking world.
[01:18:36]  Right.
[01:18:37]  You don't get to be part of it.
[01:18:38]  There's such a difficulty that comes with the advent of social media and the prevalence of the internet that there is no real way to stop someone who wants just immigrants killed by alligators.
[01:18:54]  You get a voice!
[01:18:55]  Yep.
[01:18:56]  I don't know how you deal with that.
[01:18:58]  I think you can.
[01:19:00]  You hope that what you would do is make it so people would be more able to recognize that rhetoric when they hear it as being something that is abhorrent.
[01:19:10]  Sure.
[01:19:11]  And, you know, inhuman in a lot of ways.
[01:19:14]  Not that this person is inhuman, but it's inhumane, the way he views these immigrants.
[01:19:20]  Sure.
[01:19:20]  And you would hope that, like, you would solve it on a...
[01:19:23]  Like an end side, as opposed to the producer of the speech side.
[01:19:27]  Sure.
[01:19:27]  But I don't know how effective that is as a strategy.
[01:19:32]  Yeah, I mean, realistically, I think the irony of it is just going to be the rest of us either saying, fine, we're going to play by your rules for a little bit, in which case things get very, very bad.
[01:19:46]  Or we just pretend they don't exist until they die.
[01:19:49]  Yeah.
[01:19:51]  And it becomes harder and harder with just technology.
[01:19:55]  Yep.
[01:19:55]  But we get the same caller from Hawaii, right?
[01:19:58]  Yeah.
[01:19:59]  He's got another point he wants to make.
[01:20:00]  I've heard that in Massachusetts they want to allow people to live in the homes and they're asking citizens to let them into their homes.
[01:20:08]  Yeah.
[01:20:08]  I believe there's a law that's against soldiers.
[01:20:13]  That's right.
[01:20:14]  There's a law of quartering troops.
[01:20:16]  That's in the Bill of Rights.
[01:20:17]  And now we're quartering illegal aliens.
[01:20:19]  Finally.
[01:20:19]  We got to a Third Amendment rights question.
[01:20:23]  Mark Anthony said that you can judge a tyrant because he sits at a table with foreigners.
[01:20:28]  He doesn't trust his own kind.
[01:20:30]  That's why Rome eventually settled, was bringing in illegal aliens.
[01:20:33]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:20:34]  That was it.
[01:20:35]  So the lieutenant governor in Massachusetts just asked people to voluntarily house migrants temporarily, partially because it was freezing out and the state didn't have sufficient shelter capacity.
[01:20:45]  No one was forced to do anything.
[01:20:46]  It was just an opportunity to engage in charity for your fellow human, which I guess is tyranny, according to Alex.
[01:20:52]  So you can see here, though, this is becoming connected to the prohibition against forcing people to quarter soldiers in the Constitution.
[01:21:01]  That's because, you know, what's going on here?
[01:21:03]  There's a very clear mission to paint immigrants as a literal army force because people like Alex want the military used against them.
[01:21:10]  They want them to be treated as an army.
[01:21:13]  Right.
[01:21:13]  And the way you treat an army is with an army.
[01:21:16]  Well, I mean, honestly, in truth...
[01:21:20]  The most American thing that an undocumented immigrant can do is organize all the other undocumented immigrants, overthrow the United States government, and then rewrite their own constitution.
[01:21:34]  Because, my friend, they are being taxed.
[01:21:37]  Sales tax.
[01:21:38]  Without representation.
[01:21:40]  My friend, no taxation, no representation.
[01:21:43]  You get to murder everyone in the government.
[01:21:46]  That is American law.
[01:21:48]  That's an interesting take.
[01:21:49]  We'll throw it now to a constitutional scholar to see what they have to say about your position.
[01:21:55]  So we get another caller.
[01:21:57]  Amanda in South Carolina, you're on the air.
[01:21:59]  Go ahead.
[01:22:01]  Hey, darling.
[01:22:02]  Hey.
[01:22:03]  I want to call on Governor Henry McMaster to get up off his hands and get behind Texas.
[01:22:11]  Fourteen governors have.
[01:22:13]  Your governor hasn't?
[01:22:15]  No.
[01:22:17]  It wasn't even a month ago these legal gas station drugs were killing people.
[01:22:23]  Georgia and North Carolina passed laws to put bans on those, and I'm hearing crickets in South Carolina.
[01:22:32]  Well, I've got to check my map, because my map says South Carolina's joined Texas, but I'll check that.
[01:22:39]  I hope he has, but I'm calling on him, if he hadn't, to do it.
[01:22:44]  Beautiful.
[01:22:45]  Anything else on your mind?
[01:22:45]  No, I appreciate it.
[01:22:48]  I appreciate you.
[01:22:49]  I love Southerners.
[01:22:51]  It makes people mad everywhere else a woman calls you darling or sweetheart.
[01:22:56]  The Lakers always gets a bigger tip when they do that, though.
[01:22:58]  Okay.
[01:23:00]  That's...
[01:23:00]  Your perception of the world.
[01:23:02]  I'm not sure anyone's ever been mad about that.
[01:23:04]  I feel like that's not...
[01:23:05]  Anyway, this caller doesn't like freedom.
[01:23:08]  Does she think that adults shouldn't be free to take trucker speed?
[01:23:11]  That sounds like the enemy of liberty to me, quite frankly.
[01:23:15]  The nanny state.
[01:23:16]  I just...
[01:23:18]  People...
[01:23:19]  People want to get high.
[01:23:21]  Just let people get high.
[01:23:23]  Everybody does.
[01:23:24]  So this call is fun because you really get to see how the callers for this show are angry but not engaged.
[01:23:30]  She's worked up about this story and has some feelings about her governor, but she has no idea what they have or haven't said.
[01:23:35]  That feeling and anger about the story is enough to motivate her to call in, essentially wasting everybody's time calling on the governor to do a thing they've already done.
[01:23:46]  Yeah, she's sending Alex a letter in 1864.
[01:23:49]  South Carolina better get started!
[01:23:51]  They better get involved in this fight!
[01:23:53]  I'm calling on the governor.
[01:23:54]  He's sitting on his hands.
[01:23:56]  And why won't he get rid of horse-drawn carriage speed?
[01:24:01]  I like horse-drawn carriage speed.
[01:24:04]  That's fun.
[01:24:04]  So we get another caller.
[01:24:05]  This guy bubs me out.
[01:24:07]  Oh, yeah?
[01:24:07]  Yeah, no, history's happening so incredibly fast.
[01:24:11]  And I think, honestly, the globalists, the only thing they have left because the momentum is Yeah, and either arrest people or they're going to try and attack.
[01:24:30]  That's the only thing I think they have left.
[01:24:34]  And if they attack, they get in trouble, so they're going to stage a false flag.
[01:24:37]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:24:38]  It's not going to be pretty, but, hey, we had to be quitters, I guess you could say, in 1776.
[01:24:47]  And we started our own.
[01:24:49]  We had to be quitters in 1836 to start.
[01:24:52]  Well, that's right.
[01:25:09]  The American flag really is captured at this point.
[01:25:11]  And so I guess the only way to fly it would be upside down.
[01:25:14]  Thank you, Ian.
[01:25:14]  They've taken the flag.
[01:25:15]  Fine!
[01:25:16]  Then let me burn it again!
[01:25:18]  What are we doing?
[01:25:19]  It's confusing.
[01:25:20]  But, like, the, um...
[01:25:22]  I think you get the sense that the callers are all pretty clear.
[01:25:25]  It's like, alright, we got our confederacy again.
[01:25:27]  Yeah.
[01:25:28]  That's the tip that we're on here.
[01:25:30]  Yep.
[01:25:30]  Fucking take down the American flag.
[01:25:32]  Yeah.
[01:25:32]  Fuck that noise.
[01:25:33]  Do it!
[01:25:33]  I never liked it to begin with.
[01:25:34]  Man, I...
[01:25:36]  The problem is, back then, back in the day...
[01:25:39]  The South genuinely wanted to be separate because they had their own economy.
[01:25:44]  They could do it.
[01:25:45]  They could pull it off.
[01:25:45]  They couldn't really, but they could give it a shot.
[01:25:48]  They could let it ride.
[01:25:49]  Now you can't?
[01:25:50]  What are you going to do?
[01:25:52]  What are you going to do?
[01:25:53]  What?
[01:25:53]  Texas is going to secede and then be like, hey, also let's negotiate a deal with Walmart.
[01:25:58]  What are you talking about?

=== Clarence Carter Confusion (03:08) ===

[01:26:00]  And so many of these states rely on federal money to even break even.
[01:26:05]  Just absurd.
[01:26:07]  Absurd.
[01:26:08]  Stop this.
[01:26:10]  Grow up.
[01:26:10]  It is fun to take down the flag.
[01:26:12]  It is fun.
[01:26:13]  This next caller.
[01:26:14]  Yeah.
[01:26:15]  I don't think he's talking about the same person I think he is.
[01:26:19]  But I like to imagine that he is.
[01:26:21]  Okay.
[01:26:21]  Because otherwise, this is just a confusing story.
[01:26:23]  Okay.
[01:26:24]  So I met Clarence Carter on a mountainside in Virginia.
[01:26:28]  Absolutely cannot be Clarence Carter.
[01:26:30]  He owned a mountain.
[01:26:32]  So a cool gang used to do special events like that.
[01:26:35]  So before the band started, I was sitting next to him just having a drink.
[01:26:39]  Before the show started, he was like, Me, you've met a lot of famous people, and I'm kind of surrounded by that.
[01:26:48]  So it's not intimidating, it's just you're a person.
[01:26:51]  But I said, "What about the Constitution and Bill of Rights?" And he said, "Those days are long gone." And we kind of looked down at the ground, shook his head.
[01:26:59]  I mean, his countenance changed.
[01:27:03]  And I could tell that it really hit him hard, and it was sincere, like I'd kind of stuck a knife in him.
[01:27:09]  So I just wanted you to know that about him, regardless.
[01:27:12]  And I think he's under a lot of duress, but I always got the impression he was a good man.
[01:27:16]  Well, yeah, there's a lot of people that know what's going on.
[01:27:19]  Who never speak up in stand-up because they think it's safer to do.
[01:27:22]  There was no conversation about Clarence Carter before this, and there's no context for this.
[01:27:27]  I have no idea, but I like to imagine.
[01:27:30]  See, I was like, okay, it can't be the same Clarence Carter.
[01:27:32]  And then he starts talking about cooling the gang.
[01:27:34]  And he's talking about cooling the gang!
[01:27:35]  Wait.
[01:27:36]  But then he's like, he was counting his change.
[01:27:38]  Like, Clarence Carter's blind.
[01:27:39]  That's the weirder thing!
[01:27:40]  But I guess you can still count change if you're blind.
[01:27:42]  I think that was actually...
[01:27:43]  But then he said that he's under a lot of duress, and Clarence Carter's dead.
[01:27:46]  Yeah.
[01:27:46]  I don't know what's going on.
[01:27:48]  I mean, is that like a colloquial way of saying that he was like looking at the ground?
[01:27:53]  You know, he was counting his change.
[01:27:54]  He wasn't looking me in the eye.
[01:27:56]  That may be.
[01:27:56]  I can feel that.
[01:27:58]  Or maybe I just made that up and I'm going to use it because that actually sounds kind of poetic in a way.
[01:28:02]  Yeah, it's not.
[01:28:03]  He was counting his change.
[01:28:04]  I think that's, yeah.
[01:28:06]  I'll take that.
[01:28:07]  So Clarence Carter died.
[01:28:09]  Whoa, hold on a second.
[01:28:10]  Clarence Carter.
[01:28:12]  Holy shit, Clarence Carter is alive.
[01:28:15]  This is a Mandela effect.
[01:28:17]  Oh shit, did you kill Clarence Carter?
[01:28:19]  No, he's alive.
[01:28:19]  I could have sworn he was dead.
[01:28:21]  Yeah, I know, in a different universe.
[01:28:22]  Yeah, because you killed him in a different universe.
[01:28:25]  So this guy might actually be talking about stroking, patches, slip away Clarence Carter?
[01:28:31]  He might be.
[01:28:32]  Yeah, that does sound right.
[01:28:33]  If he is, it still doesn't make a lot of sense.
[01:28:35]  No, no, no.
[01:28:36]  I mean, it is nice to know that he cares about the country.
[01:28:38]  Yes.
[01:28:39]  The Bill of Rights, long gone.
[01:28:40]  You know how you learned that?
[01:28:41]  Learned it from his daddy who was a big old man!
[01:28:43]  I could see him with the shovel and handsy.
[01:28:48]  Of all the things that I don't want in any kind of anecdotal Jordan story, it would be a story where I heavy-handedly and dramatically looked into the middle distance lamenting the loss of democracy.

=== Push for AR-15s? (12:29) ===

[01:29:03]  I tell people stories like that about you all the time.
[01:29:07]  He was hungry one time.
[01:29:09]  That's a story for me.
[01:29:10]  So we get another caller here.
[01:29:12]  This guy has another reference as a movie.
[01:29:15]  Let's go to John in Texas.
[01:29:17]  John, you're on the air.
[01:29:18]  Go ahead.
[01:29:19]  Hey, Alex.
[01:29:20]  I love you, man.
[01:29:21]  I'm not nervous.
[01:29:22]  I'm just caffeinated.
[01:29:23]  I've been thinking we should push for the state of Texas to arm our citizens, law-abiding citizens with AR-15s and a few hundred rounds per adult so we can defend ourselves in the event of some sort of Red Dawn event.
[01:29:38]  I like that.
[01:29:38]  Which looks like it's very possibly going to come.
[01:29:41]  Which side of Red Dawn are you on?
[01:29:42]  These days.
[01:29:43]  Replacement migration, Red Dawn event.
[01:29:45]  And that's all fine with me.
[01:29:47]  I think everybody should be armed.
[01:29:48]  And we should bring back civil defense, the militias, and the Constitution.
[01:29:51]  But more importantly...
[01:29:53]  Yeah, man.
[01:29:54]  Nobody...
[01:29:54]  None of arms in Texas.
[01:29:57]  That's the issue.
[01:29:58]  Alex says we're already in a Red Dawn situation, so...
[01:30:02]  If...
[01:30:03]  And I'm going to throw this out there.
[01:30:05]  I'm going to throw this out there.
[01:30:07]  Straight out the gate.
[01:30:08]  Sure.
[01:30:08]  Alright.
[01:30:08]  If you gave every law-abiding citizen an AR-15 and several hundred rounds, you would find out we have fewer law-abiding citizens than you imagined originally.
[01:30:19]  You might.
[01:30:20]  Perhaps access is really the only thing that keeps a lot of laws from me.
[01:30:25]  Here's the twist.
[01:30:26]  Yeah.
[01:30:27]  If you are a, you know, maybe pseudo-unlaw-abiding person, you get yourself an AR-15, you're not going to be fucking with people.
[01:30:34]  They all have AR-15s.
[01:30:37]  No, that means that you now have extra AR-15s.
[01:30:41]  That's true.
[01:30:42]  You have the potential to steal a lot of them from people who are law-abiding citizens who don't want to shoot people.
[01:30:47]  Yeah, the law-abiding part of it makes you feel like the...
[01:30:50]  You know what?
[01:30:51]  Never mind.
[01:30:51]  So here's where things come to a head a little bit.
[01:30:54]  There's this caller who's arguing...
[01:30:56]  That, you know, Governor Abbott is associated with the World Economic Forum.
[01:31:02]  Sure, yeah.
[01:31:03]  There's all kinds of horrible things that you've said about him.
[01:31:06]  Pseudo-globalists, yeah.
[01:31:07]  And so we jump in the middle of this confrontation, which isn't really much of a confrontation, but it is bringing up uncomfortable points.
[01:31:15]  What do you do when you're the state guard down there and there's women and children drowning in the water?
[01:31:20]  They put up Barbar to keep him from getting through.
[01:31:23]  But when they're crawling over the bar bar, what are you supposed to do?
[01:31:25]  You're not in that position.
[01:31:26]  So just real quick, this is Alex responding to the guy making a point that...
[01:31:31]  Some guy that he heard on a radio show had said that he was there and he saw them taking people out of the barbed wire and instead of sending them back across the border, they were bringing them in and caring for them.
[01:31:43]  Right, right, right.
[01:31:43]  And that made the listeners angry.
[01:31:46]  Yes.
[01:31:47]  They should have been sent right back over the river.
[01:31:49]  They should have been sent right back over the river, yes.
[01:31:50]  And look, I'm not here to defend Governor Abbott.
[01:31:53]  That's not my job.
[01:31:54]  But I'm also the type of guy that when all hell's breaking loose all around us...
[01:31:59]  And things are so crazy.
[01:32:01]  And 15 states have lined up behind Texas and are sending troops.
[01:32:04]  And Biden's saying he's going to federalize the National Guard to stop this.
[01:32:08]  Optically, this is a big deal, a big wake-up call, a big constitutional crisis.
[01:32:13]  And so however Abbott got pushed into finally doing the right thing, it is a good thing overall.
[01:32:18]  I get the other talk show hosts.
[01:32:21]  They spend all their time about who's the most perfect and who you can totally trust and all this stuff.
[01:32:26]  You do that.
[01:32:26]  No.
[01:32:27]  And that's fine and dandy.
[01:32:28]  And I'm not even getting into Michael Yon.
[01:32:29]  I respect him a lot.
[01:32:30]  I've been a big creditor of Abbott.
[01:32:32]  It's just the whole show is continually about is Abbott good or not?
[01:32:36]  Bill Maher is now a secret patriot.
[01:32:38]  Or is this or that?
[01:32:39]  We are in a new world order.
[01:32:41]  We're in a takeover.
[01:32:42]  They're trying to start World War III.
[01:32:44]  The allegiances are shifting pretty rapidly.
[01:32:46]  And I'm simply saying it's great to have all these states doing this.
[01:32:47]  And it's great to see all this unfolding.
[01:32:49]  But I can't answer your question about Greg Abbott and who he prays to at 2 a.m. in the morning.
[01:32:54]  I mean, I can't do it.
[01:32:55]  I don't know.
[01:32:56]  Listen, you dumb-dumb.
[01:32:57]  I will not let my past actions and my past rhetoric affect my ability to cash in on this very tense situation.
[01:33:04]  Yeah.
[01:33:05]  Stop it.
[01:33:06]  Okay.
[01:33:06]  All right.
[01:33:07]  Here's my pitch.
[01:33:08]  Mm-hmm.
[01:33:09]  Okay.
[01:33:11]  Once a year, we have a giant you-can-become-a-citizen games.
[01:33:18]  Oh, this is a squid situation?
[01:33:19]  I'm having a squid game situation.
[01:33:21]  Okay.
[01:33:22]  All right?
[01:33:22]  How about we do this at the border?
[01:33:24]  Because we're not going to get these people to ever be like, let's open the border.
[01:33:27]  I'm never going to convince people that borders are stupid.
[01:33:30]  That's just never going to happen.
[01:33:32]  So we've got to have some way to get people to both have a reason to be like, it is okay to block people at this border, while at the same time providing a hopeful way to be like, you're going to get in.
[01:33:42]  You know, it's possible.
[01:33:44]  I think this is a little degrading, but...
[01:33:46]  Boy, it's...
[01:33:47]  I mean, as far as dystopias that we live in.
[01:33:51]  But we don't live in that one yet.
[01:33:52]  We're not getting above degrading in terms of dystopia.
[01:33:56]  So we gotta baseline think degrading is where we're going.
[01:33:59]  I still think a squid game is not ever the right option.
[01:34:03]  A lot of people say that.
[01:34:05]  See, I think that there's other paths to citizenship than murder games.
[01:34:11]  Fair enough.
[01:34:11]  But you do you.
[01:34:12]  Okay.
[01:34:13]  So Alex addresses the tension there, the fact that he's built up Abbott in the past as kind of like a super trustworthy figure.
[01:34:22]  Right.
[01:34:23]  We're getting a lot of calls on air and a lot of calls off air saying, hey, Greg Abbott went along with the lockdowns partially, and he's done a lot of other wimpy stuff.
[01:34:33]  We don't like him.
[01:34:34]  So what are you doing saying this is a good thing?
[01:34:37]  Well, these are politicians, so they blow which way the wind blows.
[01:34:42]  Like a weather vane.
[01:34:44]  So there's massive pressure against the open border.
[01:34:47]  It's the number one issue.
[01:34:48]  People see the invasion happening.
[01:34:49]  And he's down there defying the feds and has gotten 15 states to back him.
[01:34:53]  And they're sending troops down here.
[01:34:55]  That creates a giant political crisis and points out that Biden's a total traitor.
[01:35:00]  That is only positive.
[01:35:03]  You know, when Christ was crucified, and the whole Bible's a lesson, and he's got the murderer and the thief.
[01:35:09]  On either side of them.
[01:35:10]  And one of them doesn't believe in God and says, I don't want to be healed and I don't want to be forgiven.
[01:35:14]  The other one does and Christ says, tonight, you'll be with me in paradise.
[01:35:17]  And I'm not judging Greg Abbott.
[01:35:19]  I don't know if he's good or bad.
[01:35:21]  He's certainly a lot better than Democrats.
[01:35:25]  And...
[01:35:25]  It doesn't matter.
[01:35:27]  He has got the guard down there.
[01:35:28]  He started at one spot.
[01:35:30]  The feds are threatening to throw him out.
[01:35:31]  Now the Border Patrol refuses to follow Biden's orders.
[01:35:34]  Biden's about to probably federalize the state guards of the country, which is going to push this absolutely in front of the Supreme Court.
[01:35:41]  Accelerate it!
[01:35:42]  And what's going on is illegal.
[01:35:44]  And the Supreme Court rules in favor of Biden.
[01:35:46]  We know they're compromised, and they're going to rule against Trump.
[01:35:49]  But we're not sitting here on the defense taking it anymore.
[01:35:53]  All right!
[01:35:53]  Now we've got a concrete prediction.
[01:35:55]  But it's a prediction that's in the past.
[01:35:58]  He doesn't realize the Supreme Court's already chimed in on this.
[01:36:00]  Now we know that Trump will not be president in 2024.
[01:36:05]  Oh.
[01:36:05]  Because the Supreme Court...
[01:36:07]  The Supreme Court is against him.
[01:36:09]  Right.
[01:36:09]  It's all been proven.
[01:36:11]  We've now proved they're compromised.
[01:36:12]  We've all proved it.
[01:36:13]  So now they're going to say the Trump can't be on the ballot.
[01:36:14]  He has to stick to that.
[01:36:15]  I force him to stick to that.
[01:36:17]  But Alex just doesn't recognize that this has already happened.
[01:36:19]  Yeah, I know.
[01:36:20]  That's what's funny about it.
[01:36:21]  He just has feelings about this and he skimmed some headlines and now that's where we are.
[01:36:25]  This is ridiculous.
[01:36:27]  And, like...
[01:36:28]  This is the instinct.
[01:36:29]  This is something why Alex works and he charges people up so much is that he recognizes the vibes and what's going on there is so usable for his purposes.
[01:36:43]  This is the most perfect clay to mold something out of.
[01:36:49]  Fuck this.
[01:36:49]  I don't care what I've said about Abbott in the past.
[01:36:52]  I don't care.
[01:36:52]  He's perfect now.
[01:36:53]  Maybe.
[01:36:53]  I don't know.
[01:36:54]  I can't judge a man's heart.
[01:36:56]  Move, move, move, move!
[01:36:57]  Now, now, now!
[01:36:58]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:36:59]  He's on a helicopter with Marines.
[01:37:00]  It's crazy how sharp his instincts are in terms of, like, I smell profit.
[01:37:06]  And, you know, you have to rationalize some things sometimes.
[01:37:09]  And you have to...
[01:37:10]  Jump the gun on learning about anything, or if you have learned about it, pretend that these things haven't happened already, like the Supreme Court.
[01:37:17]  I do like the idea of him just being like, why would you give a shit about this one?
[01:37:22]  How many people have I told you are bad who are now on my best friends list?
[01:37:26]  Who fucking cares about this one?
[01:37:27]  I mean, I brought up Bill Maher, but he's been back and forth as a good and bad guy a hundred times.
[01:37:32]  Absolutely.
[01:37:33]  This is the game.
[01:37:35]  Bill Maher.
[01:37:36]  William Barr?
[01:37:38]  Okay, somebody dies in a comic book.
[01:37:40]  Are they really dead?
[01:37:41]  No.
[01:37:41]  No.
[01:37:42]  No!
[01:37:43]  Greg Abbott's bad.
[01:37:44]  Is he really bad?
[01:37:45]  No!
[01:37:45]  Next week he'll be fine.
[01:37:46]  The only people who are bad are Lex Luthor and the Democrats.
[01:37:49]  Move on.
[01:37:50]  What about our old friend Darth Vader?
[01:37:54]  I mean, in this cosmology, I believe Darth Vader is actually number one, a Superman.
[01:37:59]  And so I can't sit here and wave a magic wand and say, I know who's perfect and I know who isn't.
[01:38:04]  I know I love God.
[01:38:06]  I know I want justice.
[01:38:07]  I know I'm not for sale.
[01:38:09]  But I'm not going to sit there when we see all this in motion and then say, well, you know, I don't know about that guy.
[01:38:17]  Because it's exposing the open border.
[01:38:21]  It's drawing attention to it.
[01:38:23]  Oh, Biden doesn't like that.
[01:38:24]  This is a positive thing overall that's happening.
[01:38:29]  And I use the cheesy analogy of, you know, Star Wars, Return of the Jedi.
[01:38:35]  It's episode 6 where Darth Vader's watching Palpatine kill his own son.
[01:38:41]  And he has some good in him.
[01:38:43]  And he says, why am I destroying my own future?
[01:38:45]  And he decides to throw Palpatine down the reactor shaft.
[01:38:48]  I'm not saying, even though he is crippled like Darth Vader, that Greg Abbott's Darth Vader.
[01:38:53]  He's not that powerful in the archetype.
[01:38:55]  But I'm saying, are you mad at Darth Vader when he throws Palpatine down the mine shaft?
[01:38:59]  Because that's what's starting to happen.
[01:39:00]  He's not thrown down at you, but he's got him over the edge.
[01:39:03]  I mean, we're in the right, folks.
[01:39:05]  This human smuggling is illegal.
[01:39:07]  These open borders are sick.
[01:39:09]  Congress sits there on their hands like they don't know what's going on.
[01:39:12]  Well, they fund the State Department funding 80% of this.
[01:39:15]  Roll the clip from Return of the Jedi.
[01:39:18]  What?
[01:39:20]  Yeah, that was bizarre.
[01:39:23]  Oh, God.
[01:39:24]  That's the thing we need to do.
[01:39:25]  We need to play a clip of Return of the Jedi.
[01:39:27]  Oh, my God.
[01:39:28]  Roll the clip of Return of the Jedi.
[01:39:30]  I'm going to make this a cheesy analogy.
[01:39:32]  I'm all for it.
[01:39:33]  I mean, on a philosophical...
[01:39:36]  But Alex asks like he's begrudgingly making this analogy, and then he has a clip ready to go from the movie.
[01:39:41]  Oh, my God.
[01:39:42]  What a dork.
[01:39:43]  Play that.
[01:39:43]  Man.
[01:39:44]  Also, that is one of the huge problems with the postquels, is that at the end of Return of the Jedi, and it's still maintained in the prequels, is that Anakin does fulfill the prophecy by bringing balance to the Force.
[01:39:56]  He kills the two remaining Sith.
[01:39:59]  He kills Emperor Palpatine and he himself dies, ending the Sith, fulfilling the prophecy.
[01:40:05]  Then the postquels, nope.
[01:40:07]  Nope.
[01:40:07]  Nope.
[01:40:08]  Somehow Palpatine is back!
[01:40:11]  Can I...
[01:40:12]  Can I make a point?
[01:40:13]  What would that be?
[01:40:14]  You're a nerd.
[01:40:19]  Yes, I am, buddy!
[01:40:20]  So, we get another caller.
[01:40:22]  Uh-huh.
[01:40:22]  And this caller finally gets really to the core of the issue.
[01:40:26]  Sure.
[01:40:26]  Which is, are we going to secede?
[01:40:28]  That is a good question.
[01:40:29]  What's going on here?
[01:40:30]  That is a good question.
[01:40:31]  Yes.
[01:40:31]  Shit or get off the pot time.
[01:40:32]  More or less.
[01:40:33]  Yeah.
[01:40:34]  My question about this whole thing is...
[01:40:36]  What happens if this brews up to a separation of states here?
[01:40:39]  Because we got Amy Comey Barrett that just let us down in the Supreme Court.
[01:40:44]  Crazy.
[01:40:45]  That is a reference to the Supreme Court decision that Alex is pretending hasn't happened.
[01:40:49]  Didn't happen, yeah.
[01:40:50]  Right?
[01:40:52]  What's your take on where we go from there?
[01:40:54]  We got Johnson who's doing nothing.
[01:40:56]  No tapes released from J6.
[01:40:58]  Nothing.
[01:40:58]  He's another...
[01:40:59]  No, I mean, look, look, look.
[01:41:00]  I mean, we got this head of the RNC.
[01:41:03]  In Arizona, caught trying to bribe people and threaten them.
[01:41:05]  Look, and he just went down.
[01:41:06]  Yeah, I heard it.
[01:41:07]  So, I mean, here's the deal.

=== The Fight Is Already Here (10:40) ===

[01:41:10]  Look, we didn't look for a fight, but if you're walking on a parking lot at night and some dude knocks you upside the head for no reason, you don't know if you're going to win, but you're going to go ahead and beat the hell out of them, right?
[01:41:20]  So, I say that politically.
[01:41:22]  I don't know how all this is going to end.
[01:41:23]  I've said this a thousand times.
[01:41:25]  I don't know how it's all going to end, but we're already in the fight, brother, and so that's all I know.
[01:41:32]  Our leverage is that we separate.
[01:41:35]  Texas already had a model for separating.
[01:41:37]  Well, here's the deal.
[01:41:38]  I don't like the breakup of the country, but it's already gone.
[01:41:42]  We're already under UN control.
[01:41:43]  So, yes, I have said this for decades.
[01:41:45]  I would be for the states pulling out of the compact to reestablish the republic under the original Bill of Rights Declaration of Independence Constitution.
[01:41:52]  I mean, I agree.
[01:41:53]  I mean, I would actually support...
[01:41:55]  Right now, we've got 15 states.
[01:41:57]  They could just say, we no longer represent the feds.
[01:41:59]  We're not going to shoot you.
[01:42:00]  We're not going to kill you.
[01:42:01]  We're not going to have a civil war like the liberal media says.
[01:42:03]  We're going to politically say, we no longer are under your control, and then we can have our own constitutional convention, and another ten states will join us, and we'll just frog march those people out there and have a new election, and it's game over.
[01:42:15]  It's got to happen.
[01:42:16]  That's a peaceful coup, by the way.
[01:42:19]  A peaceful countercoup.
[01:42:20]  Good save.
[01:42:21]  Good save with the countercoup part there.
[01:42:23]  This is ridiculous.
[01:42:25]  Do you know...
[01:42:26]  That every year, the United States military receives roughly $800 billion on a yearly basis.
[01:42:35]  And, and, this is the most important part, no one really knows where it goes.
[01:42:41]  Sure.
[01:42:41]  Okay?
[01:42:41]  There's no actual accounting for it.
[01:42:44]  Well, it's all for UFOs.
[01:42:45]  Now, if you were to, say, dissolve the union...
[01:42:49]  An accounting practice that already does not exist.
[01:42:53]  And that found almost a trillion dollars in the military with not as many people as you might think.
[01:43:03]  Boy, that's a lot of money that I would take.
[01:43:05]  Well, I think you bring up one thing.
[01:43:08]  Yeah.
[01:43:09]  And there's a million others that just make this a stupid, oversimplified plan.
[01:43:14]  Terrible idea.
[01:43:15]  It's a non-starter.
[01:43:17]  It's fun to talk about for them, and it's very fun to act like, yeah, you know, what we're going to do?
[01:43:23]  We're just going to break up the union, and then we're just going to put it back together again the way we like it.
[01:43:27]  Right.
[01:43:28]  That makes sense.
[01:43:29]  It's just so dumb.
[01:43:30]  Yeah.
[01:43:31]  There's no other word for it.
[01:43:32]  It's dumb.
[01:43:33]  Yeah.
[01:43:33]  Because here's the thing.
[01:43:34]  Yeah.
[01:43:35]  It's not real.
[01:43:36]  No.
[01:43:38]  Actually wants, which is a civil war.
[01:43:41]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:43:42]  It's a handmaid's tale.
[01:43:44]  He wants maybe the disillusion of the union to bring it back as a right-wing dictatorship.
[01:43:51]  Yeah, I mean, really, even then, what is the endgame is endless thirst, you know?
[01:43:59]  Imagine the fascists win all of the United States.
[01:44:03]  The point of these people is that the getting is the fun part.
[01:44:07]  They don't want to run shit.
[01:44:09]  Trump wants to win president.
[01:44:11]  He doesn't want to be president.
[01:44:13]  Right, because as soon as they reconstitute the republic with the Bill of Rights, people are going to have things that they don't like about it.
[01:44:21]  And that's why there's going to be some other new problem.
[01:44:25]  Oh no, the deep state's still here.
[01:44:27]  Totally.
[01:44:28]  Oh no!
[01:44:29]  Or then you go like, fuck it.
[01:44:32]  The only way to save our border is to move our border to the southern border of Mexico, by which I mean we're going to take over Mexico.
[01:44:37]  Sure, that could be another way to distract.
[01:44:40]  Yeah.
[01:44:40]  Fun.
[01:44:41]  Yep.
[01:44:41]  So Alex really betrays some principles here.
[01:44:44]  How does that go?
[01:44:45]  I think we're just about too late as far as the 10 million that has already crossed the border.
[01:44:51]  I don't know the answer completely on how to handle that with the next, hopefully, our next president that comes in.
[01:45:01]  Other than, we need to find these people and send them back.
[01:45:07]  Well, nobody's going to complain about state taxes for deportation.
[01:45:12]  Right.
[01:45:13]  Who wouldn't pass a 5% extra tax for a year to deport every one of these people?
[01:45:17]  Isn't taxation theft?
[01:45:19]  I mean...
[01:45:20]  I feel very strange about this.
[01:45:23]  I don't know what these people's...
[01:45:25]  The problem I have with the rules that these people have...
[01:45:29]  Is that they're a bunch of five-year-old rich kids who whine because every time the rules are like, oh, well, this isn't to my advantage, they change the rules to their advantage.
[01:45:39]  That's fucking, that's annoying.
[01:45:41]  It is.
[01:45:42]  I'm willing to lose.
[01:45:43]  I have no problem losing in a fair fight.
[01:45:46]  That's fine.
[01:45:47]  I'm happy losing.
[01:45:48]  That's great.
[01:45:49]  Next time I'll get better.
[01:45:50]  That's the competition element.
[01:45:52]  Right?
[01:45:52]  Sure.
[01:45:53]  None of this changing the rules.
[01:45:54]  Ah, even though I lost, I actually win anyways.
[01:45:57]  It really only works with changing rules, though, so...
[01:46:01]  So I think a lot of people would be opposed to a 5% tax increase in order to fund deportations.
[01:46:09]  That would be an issue.
[01:46:10]  I assume in that number he's including naturalized resident non-aliens.
[01:46:16]  Let's be clear.
[01:46:17]  Let's be clear.
[01:46:18]  I want to take food out of your children's mouths in order to hurt other people who you don't know and who aren't causing a problem.
[01:46:25]  And make it abundantly clear here that that is...
[01:46:29]  Where they're at in terms of a conversation is mass deportations.
[01:46:32]  Rounding up of people and deporting them.
[01:46:36]  Man, I would like to live through a stretch of time in the United States where I did not feel like the right-wing elements of my government weren't in the midst of killing millions of people.
[01:46:52]  Nah.
[01:46:53]  It's not going to happen.
[01:46:54]  I mean, I agree with the ambition.
[01:46:56]  It would be nice.
[01:46:58]  So Alex, in this next clip, I believe, lays out the plan, basically, of what his rhetoric involves.
[01:47:06]  And look, folks, I'm not here in some Greg Abbott worship fest.
[01:47:11]  We got 15 states behind us.
[01:47:13]  I told you a week ago this was real.
[01:47:15]  This is pissed off the out-of-control feds.
[01:47:17]  This is getting the public's attention.
[01:47:19]  And we are going to force the feds to overplay their hand.
[01:47:22]  They're going to nationalize the state guard.
[01:47:25]  And then it's off the races.
[01:47:27]  Okay?
[01:47:28]  Exacerbate the situation.
[01:47:29]  Make things even worse.
[01:47:31]  Get the government to respond in a way that they have to because you're making things so much worse.
[01:47:35]  And then call that tyranny and insist that you should be able to shoot feds.
[01:47:38]  Yep.
[01:47:39]  It's kind of the game plan that Alex has.
[01:47:42]  Yeah, I mean, the...
[01:47:43]  I mean, here's the real problem.
[01:47:47]  The real problem is main character disease.
[01:47:50]  Right.
[01:47:52]  You can arrest Greg Abbott.
[01:47:54]  Shove it up his ass.
[01:47:56]  Shove it up his ass and put him in a prison.
[01:47:58]  Right.
[01:47:58]  Fuck Greg Abbott.
[01:47:59]  You can do that.
[01:48:00]  Well, that's when the National Guard comes in to break him out.
[01:48:04]  No, don't nationalize fucking anything.
[01:48:06]  We're doing all of this other bullshit because that can happen to people who aren't main characters.
[01:48:12]  You can arrest non-main characters.
[01:48:14]  You can kill all the henchmen that you want.
[01:48:16]  Every single National Guardsman or immigrant or whoever dies at that border for whatever dumb fuck reason that doesn't matter to them whatsoever at all is a fine death.
[01:48:28]  Totally fine.
[01:48:29]  But if you inconvenience Greg Abbott for executing his constitutional duties, fuck off.
[01:48:35]  People get mad.
[01:48:36]  That's ridiculous.
[01:48:37]  That is absolutely absurd.
[01:48:39]  So you're suggesting they should arrest Greg Abbott?
[01:48:42]  Absolutely.
[01:48:43]  DeSantis?
[01:48:44]  These people are traffickers!
[01:48:46]  Well...
[01:48:47]  Kidnapped migrants and then sent them to another place.
[01:48:50]  Under false pretenses.
[01:48:51]  That's a crime!
[01:48:52]  And if you don't want to arrest them for that crime, I get to commit crimes now!
[01:48:57]  Those are the rules!
[01:48:58]  That's a fair fight!
[01:49:00]  Do you understand what I'm saying?
[01:49:01]  I do.
[01:49:01]  If you're gonna change the rules where it's okay for him to traffic migrants, then I get to traffic his ass into the ocean!
[01:49:09]  For people at home.
[01:49:10]  Jordan is just as animated as you might have imagined he was.
[01:49:14]  A lot of hand gestures.
[01:49:16]  The ocean is over here.
[01:49:18]  The ocean is over there.
[01:49:19]  It is up to the right.
[01:49:21]  Yeah, I don't know.
[01:49:23]  It's a mess.
[01:49:24]  That's basically the point that I have as a whole.
[01:49:27]  It's a mess.
[01:49:28]  So Alex predicts some false flags here.
[01:49:30]  Well, I think it's clear.
[01:49:32]  They're going to false flag migrants.
[01:49:33]  If I was them, and I wouldn't do this myself, I'm saying, I get in their brain.
[01:49:36]  They're going to blow up or shoot a bunch of illegal aliens, and anybody that's for, you know, controlling the border is now a terrorist.
[01:49:43]  I mean, you can see what's going on.
[01:49:45]  Hold the line.
[01:49:47]  Don't do, don't attack.
[01:49:48]  Stay peaceful.
[01:49:50]  Oh, obviously, none of us are going to attack the Border Patrol, the illegal aliens.
[01:49:53]  We feel sorry for them.
[01:49:54]  But I'm saying the deep state is going to do that.
[01:49:57]  People should be ready for that.
[01:49:59]  That's right.
[01:50:00]  That's right.
[01:50:00]  You nailed it.
[01:50:01]  I mean, that's what I'm saying.
[01:50:02]  We've got to make it known that we are not violent.
[01:50:04]  We are peaceful.
[01:50:05]  We love God.
[01:50:06]  We love the rule of law.
[01:50:08]  We're patriots.
[01:50:09]  And anyone who comes against us, you know, the satanic globalists, these people are sick.
[01:50:15]  You know, they've got to go.
[01:50:16]  They know they're...
[01:50:17]  They are sick.
[01:50:18]  Thank you, Randy.
[01:50:19]  I'm going to move quick to everybody.
[01:50:20]  I think that all this is, is Alex recognizes that there are segments within his right-wing population that would very love, that would love to use this as an opportunity to bomb a migrant facility and make this way, way, way worse.
[01:50:35]  That is something that people within his community, the fringer elements of it, it's very much not past what they would consider doing.
[01:50:44]  And Alex knows that if that does happen...
[01:50:47]  There's a chance that people would take right-wing extremism far more seriously.
[01:50:51]  Yeah.
[01:50:51]  Much like happened with Oklahoma City.
[01:50:53]  People were not necessarily heeding the warnings that folks had about, like, these fucking groups.
[01:51:00]  There's great potential for blowing up a building.
[01:51:04]  And then it happens, everybody starts taking it seriously.
[01:51:06]  The right-wing extremist community had a much harder time organizing, profiting off newsletters and what have you.
[01:51:14]  And Alex recognizes that.
[01:51:16]  So in advance of that, you have to start sowing these seeds that anything bad that happens is fake.
[01:51:21]  It's the deep state.
[01:51:22]  Our side is above reproach and nobody could ever possibly do any of this shit.
[01:51:27]  Yeah.
[01:51:27]  It's a fucking game.
[01:51:28]  Yep.
[01:51:29]  Yep.
[01:51:30]  Unless you're on the verge of winning, in which case you can say the capital has fallen.

=== Intellectualizing Dissent (07:05) ===

[01:51:35]  Exactly.
[01:51:35]  You can make a gauche move like that dumb glasses.
[01:51:40]  Harrison Dickwad.
[01:51:41]  Wow.
[01:51:42]  Couldn't come up with his name.
[01:51:43]  Harrison Smith, that's how fucking worthless you are.
[01:51:46]  That I forgot about you momentarily.
[01:51:48]  Dan fucking Friesen forgot your name.
[01:51:51]  Jesus Christ.
[01:51:52]  So we have one last clip, and it's another caller.
[01:51:55]  And I really think that this gets to the core of what we're talking about.
[01:51:58]  This is like an intellectualizing of all the points, brings things full circle, ties a nice bow.
[01:52:05]  Mankind in Arizona, you're on the air.
[01:52:07]  Thanks for rolling.
[01:52:18]  It says it all.
[01:52:21]  God, I wish that was the show.
[01:52:24]  It kind of is.
[01:52:25]  I mean, well, that's the problem.
[01:52:28]  That's the problem.
[01:52:29]  That was a delight.
[01:52:30]  That was a childish delight filled with people going, I'm a feeling!
[01:52:35]  I am alive!
[01:52:37]  It doesn't happen all the time, but it definitely doesn't not happen so regularly, people just doing war cries.
[01:52:44]  I support just generalized joy.
[01:52:47]  If somebody called in and did the haka, I'd be like, fuck yeah, let's do it.
[01:52:51]  I'm not sure where the literature...
[01:52:53]  I don't know if you can haka on the phone.
[01:52:55]  I'm not sure where the literature is in the psychological world, but I know that for a time, primal scream therapy was pretty big.
[01:53:02]  It was pretty huge!
[01:53:03]  Maybe it would make these people feel a lot better.
[01:53:06]  Just let it out.
[01:53:07]  Just let it out.
[01:53:07]  Go out in the woods and scream.
[01:53:11]  Also, I do appreciate the professionalism.
[01:53:13]  He tried to pitch correct.
[01:53:14]  He tried to get it there.
[01:53:15]  Yeah.
[01:53:17]  I was there.
[01:53:17]  Professional.
[01:53:18]  Professional.
[01:53:19]  So, we come to the end of this exploration of January 25th, and I believe that, you know...
[01:53:25]  Alex is calling for secession in a way.
[01:53:29]  Right.
[01:53:29]  But it is in the same way that he always has, kind of.
[01:53:32]  With this fantasy notion of, we're just gonna put a pause on the Union for a bit.
[01:53:37]  We're gonna get out of it, and then we're gonna put it back together the way we want.
[01:53:41]  Humpty Dumpty style.
[01:53:42]  We're gonna put it back together.
[01:53:44]  And it's delusional, and it's a facilitation and intellectualizing of him wanting an actual hot war with the federal government.
[01:53:53]  Yeah.
[01:53:53]  It's a way to...
[01:53:54]  Own that position without owning it.
[01:53:57]  It really, like, listening to this sometimes, it really makes me feel like if I had a time machine, I would go back to, like, eight-year-old me and be like, the rich kid who takes their ball and goes home, they rule the world.
[01:54:09]  Run.
[01:54:11]  Go!
[01:54:11]  Get out of here!
[01:54:12]  Get out of here!
[01:54:13]  Every time a rich kid has been like this and you've been like, this is not fair and the world is wrong and I'm sure when I'm an adult it'll get better.
[01:54:19]  It won't!
[01:54:22]  So we'll see what happens with this.
[01:54:24]  I mean, I have no ability to predict where this breaks because I think that so much of it is so dependent on some fairly random happenings.
[01:54:35]  Some stuff that we may have no idea about until after the fact, like if some groups are planning some kind of crazy shit.
[01:54:42]  Or just some idiot makes a huge fucking accident and then people exploit it to however they want to do it.
[01:54:49]  There's a lot of things that are tense.
[01:54:52]  And I think that there's a lot of people who are making it worse.
[01:54:55]  People like Alex, people like that convoy.
[01:54:58]  I think that they're escalating and heightening a situation that they...
[01:55:03]  It has the potential to go bad in a lot of ways.
[01:55:06]  But even if it doesn't, what you are seeing is a large segment of the population celebrating these states thumbing their nose at the federal government and acting like there is no federal government.
[01:55:22]  We are above this.
[01:55:24]  And that has its own set of dangers.
[01:55:28]  Because if that is allowed to stand...
[01:55:31]  Why would anybody give a fuck about the federal government ever again?
[01:55:34]  Yeah.
[01:55:35]  Why would Texas not think that they are their own country except enjoying the largesse of being within the United States, the benefit that comes along with it?
[01:55:44]  Well, here's the problem.
[01:55:46]  There's two problems.
[01:55:48]  And they work together in the worst possible way, right?
[01:55:51]  So your first problem is, in real time, in the real world, all of their fuck the federal government bullshit is bullshit.
[01:56:01]  But, we just lived through COVID, and you know what?
[01:56:04]  Fuck the federal government.
[01:56:05]  They fucked up.
[01:56:06]  They fucked up, and no one, no one, no one, no one has been held accountable for that.
[01:56:12]  So, while I agree with the bite the bullet and say blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, I also think, fuck the federal government.
[01:56:20]  That's fine.
[01:56:20]  They earned what they're getting, you know?
[01:56:23]  And then the problem there is the person in charge of the federal government at that time was the person doing this shit right now.
[01:56:32]  That's true.
[01:56:33]  And that is why the federal government fucked up, which means that it's not the federal government's fault.
[01:56:38]  It's these fucking dum-dums' fault.
[01:56:40]  But let me throw this out at you.
[01:56:42]  Trump became the fucking government.
[01:56:44]  It's the federal government's fault for allowing Trump to become the fucking government.
[01:56:49]  It's part of the government's fault.
[01:56:50]  Yep.
[01:56:51]  I agree, and I think that the way that I would describe it is your version of fuck the federal government is there needs to be better oversight, people need to be held responsible for things, and we need to operate better in a way that takes care of people better.
[01:57:07]  Right.
[01:57:08]  Their version of fuck the federal government is, I want to shoot federal agents and reconstitute the union in theocratic fascist fashion.
[01:57:18]  Right.
[01:57:18]  So I think there's a difference, even though the words can sound similar sometimes.
[01:57:22]  Well, I think the difference, though, is fairly simple, right?
[01:57:26]  And it's that you can do mine, or you can do theirs.
[01:57:30]  Or you can do neither.
[01:57:31]  Well, if you do neither, you're going to do theirs.
[01:57:33]  They're going to do theirs.
[01:57:34]  They're going to do theirs to you.
[01:57:36]  That's the point.
[01:57:38]  They're the option that involves you not solving the problems that you're responsible for.
[01:57:44]  That's what they're there for.
[01:57:46]  That's not what they're there for.
[01:57:47]  Oh, no, no, no, that's not what they're there for.
[01:57:49]  Right.
[01:57:50]  But that is what, no matter what you do, it doesn't matter if the federal government, it doesn't matter if it's these people.
[01:57:56]  Because of the federal government's general shittiness with COVID, and they're not holding anybody accountable for it.
[01:58:03]  This will happen.
[01:58:05]  Not just because of COVID, but yeah.
[01:58:08]  The scale.
[01:58:09]  The disillusion with the federal government being able to address the problems that people have has a tendency towards drawing people towards this.
[01:58:18]  This is where it goes, yeah.
[01:58:20]  You could have done a better job and we wouldn't be here.
[01:58:23]  We might.

=== And Now Here Comes Sex (00:37) ===

[01:58:24]  We might still.
[01:58:25]  That's true.
[01:58:26]  But we can't go back now.
[01:58:27]  So anyway, we will see what happens.
[01:58:29]  Indeed.
[01:58:31]  Until then, we have a website.
[01:58:32]  Indeed we do.
[01:58:32]  It's KnowledgeFight.com.
[01:58:33]  We're also on Blue Sky.
[01:58:35]  We are on Blue Sky.
[01:58:35]  It's KnowledgeFight.
[01:58:36]  God, I kind of almost want it to be Knowledge underscore Fight.
[01:58:39]  It's so much easier to say from repetition.
[01:58:41]  Weird.
[01:58:41]  We'll be back.
[01:58:42]  But until then, I'm Neo.
[01:58:43]  I'm Leo.
[01:58:43]  I'm DZX Clark.
[01:58:44]  Never again shall I allow Alex to squander.
[01:58:47]  You belong to the city.
[01:58:49]  Woo!
[01:58:49]  Yeah!
[01:58:49]  Woo!
[01:58:50]  Yeah!
[01:58:51]  Woo!
[01:58:51]  And now here comes the sex robots.
[01:58:54]  Andy in Kansas.
[01:58:54]  You're on the air.
[01:58:55]  Thanks for holding.
[01:58:57]  Hello, Alex.
[01:58:58]  I'm a first time caller.
[01:58:59]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:59:00]  I love your work.