In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex covered the news about the Colorado Supreme Court ruling that Trump can't be on the GOP primary ballot. His analysis is as reasoned and insightful as you imagine it would be.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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It's time to pray. | |
| I'm Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your word. | ||
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KnowledgeFight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is yesterday I had a lovely lunch with my cousin. | ||
| You know, he was a cousin that I used to work for. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You're shit. | ||
| We spent ten years together, you know, watched him build a business. | ||
| A lot of lunches during that time. | ||
| Watched his family grow up, you know, like all that stuff is good. | ||
| You know, we're in different places now. | ||
| It was a really good lunch. | ||
| It was a really good time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was good. | ||
| What'd you get? | ||
| We went to this place. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Japanese food? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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So good. | |
| Yeah? | ||
| What'd you get? | ||
| What's your order? | ||
| They had this yellowtail with jalapeno stuff on there. | ||
| That was really, really good. | ||
| Spicy fish. | ||
| Then they had this black cod. | ||
| That was really good. | ||
| But the thing they had were these crispy rice balls that were like... | ||
| I mean, I can't describe them. | ||
| They were astonishing. | ||
| I think the mind can drum up memories of rice. | ||
| Think about like a little quarter, right? | ||
| And then there's like a little couple millimeters of sticky crispy rice on there, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Then there's some stuff that they whip. | |
| There's some stuff. | ||
| There's some stuff that they whip. | ||
| They're chef people. | ||
| Like a cream of sorts. | ||
| It's like a cream of sorts, yes. | ||
| That sounds good. | ||
| Yes, that's the word that escaped me. | ||
| I went instead with, the stuff they whip! | ||
| Yeah, it's a whipped thing. | ||
| They whipped it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Got some Devo in there. | ||
| No, it was great. | ||
| It was good lunch. | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| Glad you had a good time. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| Look, I realized this was going to be, this was what I planned as my bright spot, but I realized I really backed myself into an absolute corner of not being able to talk about it, really. | ||
| But that is, last night was the finale of Survivor. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't want to give any spoilers in case people are listening to this and haven't watched it yet. | ||
| So, I guess the season ended is fun, I guess, watching it. | ||
| Okay, how about we do it this way? | ||
| What were the expectations that you had that you got and did not get out of the season? | ||
| Expectations low. | ||
| Low, okay. | ||
| Achieved. | ||
| Okay, that's good news. | ||
| It did not go beneath my expectations. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But yeah, nothing really all that exciting. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, just kind of a season ended as, you know, I had felt it probably would. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, here's something I can bring up. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I watched it live on, like, Paramount Plus has CBS, so you can watch live on it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Local CBS station. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| And I've never watched it live on there, so I've never had to watch commercials. | ||
| I've always watched it, like, the day after on Amazon Prime. | ||
| And so, like, I was watching it with the commercials, and I do think, I haven't watched live TV with commercials in a long time. | ||
| I only see YouTube commercials, and it's generally I skip them, and it doesn't really make that much of an impact. | ||
| There's, like, maybe I'm falling into a hacky 80s stand-up routine, but I don't know why they need all these medication commercials. | ||
| I get you. | ||
| It's overwhelming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was really... | ||
| Well, it's because the only people who watch live broadcast TV anymore need a lot of medications. | ||
| But I would assume that's something they deal with with a doctor, not with commercials. | ||
| That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. | ||
| America! | ||
| I don't understand how this is a viable sales tactic. | ||
| I guess it is just like, I saw a commercial, I'll ask my doctor, and then they'll prescribe it for me. | ||
| I guess that's how it works, but that seems so foreign to my mind. | ||
| Well, I think... | ||
| I think a lot of people would like to put, you know, like think about what we do, you know? | ||
| Like, how is it possible that people take so much medical information from a guy screaming on a thing? | ||
| Man, you look at the rest of all medical information, but most people take medical information advice from a guy screaming on a thing. | ||
| I guess it's true. | ||
| I mean, I guess that our, you know, the way our medical system's set up, it doesn't... | ||
| Leave a lot of time for doctors to deal with patients and kind of have to advocate for yourself in a lot of situations. | ||
| So maybe it is a far more effective way to get like, hey, bother your doctor about this thing. | ||
| But it's bleak. | ||
| It felt bleak. | ||
| It was a lot. | ||
| I think there was like seven or eight different medications or vaccines or things. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Oh, that's so good. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Yeah, every now and again I'll watch, like, it's the only thing I watch live, sports, you know? | ||
| Every now and again I'll watch a basketball game or something, and, like, to walk into live commercials... | ||
| From never watching live commercials is like a completely different world. | ||
| What do people want? | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| You know, because it's like all of our ads are kind of targeted based on our algorithms. | ||
| And then to just see what anybody could need. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, people are nuts out there, man! | ||
| There's also an ad for a Chia Pet. | ||
| See? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| There's an ad for a Chia Pet? | ||
| The fuck is happening? | ||
| It's not an original Chia Pet or like a new version? | ||
| Of the Chia. | ||
| One of them was Willie Nelson, and so his hair was the place where the Chia grew. | ||
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Willie Nelson has long, straight hair. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Is it supposed to grow into a ponytail? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You put it all along the... | ||
| That's really fun! | ||
| Yeah, and there's Bob Ross. | ||
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Sure. | |
| There's a Bob Ross one. | ||
| Gotta have a Bob Ross. | ||
| Which is strange, because I don't know who that's marketed towards exactly. | ||
| I mean, obviously, I guess it's probably adults. | ||
| Like older people who would know who Bob Ross is? | ||
| No, I mean, my wife, art teacher, students all know who Bob Ross is. | ||
| Is that self-selected in an art class, though? | ||
| I mean, you would think so, but at the same time, it's not like all these high school students are in the art class because they're huge fans of art, you know? | ||
| If you recall taking art class in high school, a lot of people took art class because it wasn't study-based. | ||
| But do they know who the artist of light is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, no, that's Thomas Kinkade, right? | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Yeah, the painter of light. | ||
| Yeah, do they know him? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| And would they like a chia pet? | ||
| That would be fun. | ||
| I do assume that kids know who Willie Nelson is, but I don't know if they're that into him. | ||
| I can't imagine. | ||
| Wouldn't it make more sense to have, like, oh boy. | ||
| Lil Nas X chia pet? | ||
| I couldn't come up with an example of, like, who do the kids like? | ||
| Who do the kids like? | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Jonas Brothers? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Even our old references are old now. | ||
| We're three generations removed. | ||
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That's how fast time is in pop culture these days. | |
| Anyway, commercials are bewildering. | ||
| Yep, true. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| I had intended, in some ways, and emotionally prepared myself that maybe we'd be just in the past for the end of 2023. | ||
| But we got jostled back into the present because big news. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Well, we had that whole Colorado Supreme Court decision that Trump can't be on the ballot. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And so that drew us back to the present. | ||
| We've got to talk about it. | ||
| We've got to see what Alex is up to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So we're going to be talking about December 20th, 2023. | ||
| That was Wednesday's show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll get down to that. | ||
| But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Taru T. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you! | |
| Next, Doug Stanhope's favorite comedian. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Next, I wrote a dissertation on a writing assessment, but thanks to Knowledge Fight, I'm now researching conspiracy theories. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Next, loser little titty baby bitch committee. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Next, happy first anniversary, SASB Schmidt. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thanks for ruining my life and sanity with this podcast. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I mean, it does... | ||
| Let's eventually wear on me a little how many people say we've ruined their lives with this podcast. | ||
| I mean, I recognize that there's... | ||
| It's a fun joke. | ||
| There's a joking element to it, but at the same time, if it's this consistent, there's a consistency to it. | ||
| That says a lot. | ||
| So we also got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So thank you so much to From CJ in Charlotte. | ||
| This one goes out to Nick Fuentes. | ||
| Here's Tiny Little Mustache by Stephen Lynch. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Four stars. | ||
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So, as I already mentioned, we are here in the present because of the Colorado Supreme Court. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex starts his show off with a pre-taped message about this very big news. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Supreme Court of Colorado in a 4-3 decision without Trump ever being convicted of January 6th or any other garbage. | ||
| Just said Trump is off the ballot in the primary, so you can't vote for him to be president. | ||
| And they say other states will follow. | ||
| We've seen Jack Smith in the politically motivated operations. | ||
| We've seen trials in New York without juries against Trump. | ||
| This is criminal activity in front of everyone. | ||
| This is the oligarchy that's hijacked our country, setting up a totalitarian dictatorship in our face. | ||
| The Supreme Court must act quickly to overturn this, but you see the incredible pressure going on against the U.S. Supreme Court right now by the media, the attacks on Clarence Thomas and more. | ||
| This is a dark day for our republic. | ||
| They're making their move. | ||
| Poor guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot going on here, so I'll try my best to sort through the steps of how we got to the place we are right now with Alex making these panicky pronouncements. | ||
| On September 6th of this year, nine Colorado voters filed a suit against the Colorado Secretary of State, asserting that the Secretary did not have the authority to place Trump on the GOP primary ballot because he was ineligible to be president because he participated in an insurrection. | ||
| These voters may not have all been Republicans, but they are all eligible to... | ||
| vote in the GOP primary, which in Colorado means that they cannot be registered Democrats. | ||
| Their semi-open primary system allows people who are registered members of the party and unaffiliated voters the ability to vote in a particular party's primary. | ||
| So the bottom line here is that there's no Democrat involved. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It would be hard to come to any other conclusion. | ||
| Clear and convincing evidence. | ||
| Any other conclusion is insane. | ||
| However... | ||
| The court also found that based on some legal technicalities, based on the interpretation of the language of the 14th Amendment, the presidency wasn't an office that was covered by the prohibitions of the law, which is to say it's not an office under the United States and the precise language that's in the Section 3. Yeah, I read a whole thing. | ||
| This got escalated to the Colorado Supreme Court, who agreed with the findings of the lower court that Trump's actions constituted participation and interaction, but disagreed with their interpretation of the 14th Amendment. | ||
| amendment, ruling that Trump could be removed from the ballot because of his ineligibility This is messy stuff, and it's anyone's guess how this plays out from here. | ||
| The language in the Colorado Supreme Court ruling is even pretty clear about that. | ||
| They said, quote, On the other hand, if this does get upheld by the Supreme Court... | ||
| Shit's gonna get nuts. | ||
| I don't think that there's a very strong possibility of this because the current Supreme Court is a bunch of clowns, but there is an outside possibility. | ||
| The obsession with states' rights runs deep with the conservative types, and for years it's been this really big no-no to have the federal government meddling in how states choose to run their elections. | ||
| It's unlikely, but not impossible, that they would see overturning this ruling as an imposition on the state, but I'm not holding my breath, and they have no problem being rank hypocrites, so I don't... | ||
| Really believe that's going to be a factor. | ||
| Let's not get ahead of ourselves. | ||
| Everything that happens at the Supreme Court is a complete pretend now. | ||
| But even if this does stand, then I could see some voters in other states wanting to try the same thing, but in most cases it's probably too late. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| time for all these other states to try to reproduce the result of this Colorado decision, even if they wanted to, and the Supreme Court upholds it. | ||
| Right. | ||
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When I hear Alex trying to present the literal mountain of evidence of Clarence Thomas's corruption as media attacks trying to make him intimidated to overturn this Colorado case, I just can't help but think of how, like, through his whole career, Alex has desperately branded himself as the child. | |
| That's how the voiceover guy describes him in bumpers when he comes in from break. | ||
| Anyway, I just want to reflect a minute about how that entire aspect of his personality is a complete farce. | ||
| Fraud. | ||
| Everybody should look at the Supreme Court right now and realize that our country's failed. | ||
| Just the idea, just the idea that Clarence Thomas did all of the stuff. | ||
| What? | ||
| He has a friend? | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| You can't have friends? | ||
| I can't stress enough. | ||
| It is not under question that Clarence Thomas is bought and paid for by a billionaire. | ||
| That is not an argument. | ||
| Because he has a friend? | ||
| That is not even a question. | ||
| He has been purchased. | ||
| They did a report that he was going to quit for money, and then they gave him money to not quit. | ||
| That is the definition of buying someone! | ||
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Or what a friend does. | |
| You see a friend in need, you throw him a little lifeline. | ||
| The fact that we, 300-odd million people, a government with guns, etc., are going to look at this and go, Matt, what you gonna do? | ||
| People a few hundred years ago who owned other human beings, they knew what they were talking about. | ||
| That's what we're gonna do on a daily basis. | ||
| How do you mean? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What? | ||
| We're gonna do fuck all about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're just gonna watch him rule on shit. | ||
| I don't know what the alternative is. | ||
| I'm not saying do nothing. | ||
| Don't get it twisted at all. | ||
| No, no, no, I understand. | ||
| But, like, I don't know what the alternative is because, you know, obviously I don't think that overthrowing the Supreme Court or, you know... | ||
| Engaging in our own insurrection isn't necessarily a productive way to get where we want to end up. | ||
| You end up probably running the risk of destroying the system and leaving a power vacuum that the extreme right will end up filling far more effectively and violently than we could ever. | ||
| So, I mean, obviously you would want reform, but how do you do it? | ||
| Well, I mean, there's really only one way, because there's no way to overlook, or there's no oversight of the Supreme Court, like, period. | ||
| You can impeach a judge, but it's not going to happen. | ||
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But they would have to okay it. | |
| The judge himself would have to be like, I guess you guys can impeach me. | ||
| It's not going to, it doesn't go well. | ||
| The only thing to do would be to pack the court and add a bunch more justices. | ||
| And the only way to successfully pull that off would be not to add like two or three, but to add like 20. And then you could finally put enough people in there that it wouldn't be possible, really, to have a 5-4 conservative majority. | ||
| It has to be enough people where there's just no point even trying to do that shit. | ||
| I do think that that is probably a more productive view of something that could politically be done. | ||
| Because you do end up, if you have a tribunal, more than you have... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's absurd. | ||
| It divests some of the potential power that can be corrupted from each individual. | ||
| And I do think that that's probably what we should try and garner the political will towards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if you own a Supreme Court justice now, you functionally own one-third of the United States government by yourself. | ||
| That's probably bad. | ||
| I'm going to throw that out there. | ||
| Probably a bad thing. | ||
| It's at least not good. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So Alex starts the show proper, and here's where he's at. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Emergency broadcast. | ||
| The Democratic Party is officially establishing a permanent dictatorship in America. | ||
| This coup is not just against Trump, but the American people's right to elect who they want to represent them. | ||
| A permanent dictatorship with a flimsy ceremonial. | ||
| Vestigil election system. | ||
| If you think they're going to just stop at Trump, think again. | ||
| 320 days, 12 hours, 56 minutes, 12 seconds until Judgment Day. | ||
| All right, here's the bottom line. | ||
| This has never been used against a president in the 14th Amendment. | ||
| I've got the Constitution printed out right here. | ||
| There haven't been that many insurrections. | ||
| Unless you're a Democrat, they're lying. | ||
| That no one could be barred if they're not convicted of insurrection. | ||
| They call it an insurrection. | ||
| No one's been convicted of an insurrection. | ||
| So this specifically relates to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which doesn't say that a person needs to be convicted of anything to be barred from office. | ||
| This section was specifically inspired by a need to keep people who supported the Confederacy out of the government, and the precise issue of whether or not a conviction of anything was required for disqualification is a matter that was studied by the Congressional Research Service. | ||
| They had this to say, quote, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment does not expressly require a criminal conviction, and historically, one was not necessary. | ||
| Reconstruction era prosecutors brought civil actions in court to oust officials linked to So there's precedent that this has happened without a conviction. | ||
| What Alex is saying just isn't true. | ||
| He's not reflecting the consensus of legal experts. | ||
| He's espousing a view that's directly contrary to the actual history of how this section of the amendment has been applied throughout our country. | ||
| And just mirroring the rhetoric. | ||
| To Alex's other point, that they say it's an insurrection but no one's been convicted, the CRS has an interesting point of slight agreement. | ||
| That comes from the fact that, quote, the U.S. Constitution does not define insurrection or rebellion. | ||
| Ironically, quote, it's generally up to the president to determine whether a civil disturbance rises to the level of an insurrection. | ||
| Obviously, Trump had no interest in calling January 6th an insurrection, so that was never going to happen. | ||
| But there's no agreement that a presidential declaration is necessary to establish that something is, in fact, an insurrection. | ||
| One thing that's going to be difficult to get around is that the original trial that led to this Colorado Supreme Court decision, part of it was they found, quote, by clear and convincing evidence that the events of January 6th constituted an insurrection and President Trump engaged in that insurrection. | ||
| That goes a long way towards clearing up some of the confusion about terms and definitions and linguistics. | ||
| You're going to have to address this. | ||
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There's a lot of wiggle room in there. | |
| Where? | ||
| Okay, so clear and convincing evidence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To who? | ||
| The court. | ||
| Relative words, my friend. | ||
| Clear. | ||
| Anybody can see things clearly or not clearly. | ||
| It's a relative term. | ||
| Crystal clear Pepsi. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| Mistake. | ||
| It's impossible to see through that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I think they're... | ||
| This argument of the you need to be convicted, that's garbage. | ||
| You just toss that aside. | ||
| The argument about definitions is something that could get a little bit messy in terms of some interpretation. | ||
| There are arguments on either side in terms about, like, does Congress need to be involved in invoking this? | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Does the president fall under the auspices of this disqualification? | |
| Right. | ||
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So, like, there are those issues that some people do have differing opinions on. | |
| But in terms of the stuff that Alex is choosing to point out, like, those are all non— Well, I mean, it's important to remember that We're talking about the amendment in the context of a different problem it was created to deal with. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, this is not the Civil War. | ||
| Well, I mean, in terms of, like, how to remedy this situation, we are... | ||
| We're foolishly trying to use the framework of an amendment designed around a different situation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's unfortunately the closest thing that's applicable. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But back then, they were like, well, we better figure out what to do about this, and so we'll write a new thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, we can't do that now. | ||
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No, that's the problem. | |
| We could never even pass a law, let alone a fucking amendment. | ||
| Couldn't even begin to do that. | ||
| We would have to, and I mean, the reason that it worked is because... | ||
| When you win a civil war, the people who disagree with you don't get a say anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's something to be said for that. | ||
| It was an empowering time for getting things done. | ||
| For getting things done. | ||
| You had to win a war. | ||
| You had to win a war first, but you could do stuff at the end of that. | ||
| So there's huge news across the board that Alex is not going to get to. | ||
| But he says he's going to get to it. | ||
| And then he complains. | ||
| All right, we have a huge broadcast with a bunch of special guests and all hell-breaking loose, as I just said, on Jeffrey Epstein on the client list and Trump being taken off the ballot by the Democrat Party Supreme Court justices there. | ||
| Total election theft in our faces. | ||
| Huge news on the battlefronts in Israel and in Europe. | ||
| Ukraine. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Massive. | ||
| And we're going to do our best to go over all of it today. | ||
| Obviously, front and center is going to be Trump being taken off the ballot in Colorado. | ||
| And then Crenshaw of Texas supporting it. | ||
| Oh, my God, he's horrible. | ||
| But he has an eye patch. | ||
| People have a thing for veterans. | ||
| I love veterans, but not Benedict Arnold's. | ||
| I mean, we've got David Goswami saying he's going to withdraw from Colorado ballot. | ||
| He said other Republicans should. | ||
| To his credit, DeSantis has come out and said the same thing, that he doesn't support what's happening. | ||
| So there's a lot of other news stories that Alex doesn't seem to think is as important as the Trump drama. | ||
| But what I find amazing here is you can see the instincts that Alex has. | ||
| It's not to talk about the story in terms of what happened, what the ruling means, what are the dynamics at play. | ||
| No. | ||
| He launches into character-based gossip coverage of the story. | ||
| Who's for it? | ||
| Who's against it? | ||
| It's covering the news like he's a reality show wrap-up host instead of God's chosen hero selected to deliver the truth needed to vanquish the devil. | ||
| Also, Dan Crenshaw tweeted this in response to the ruling. | ||
| Quote, The Colorado Supreme Court just disqualified Trump from the 2024 election. | ||
| You can have your own opinions, but here's the thing. | ||
| American citizens have the right to vote for whoever they want. | ||
| That's democracy. | ||
| The Supreme Court needs to set this right. | ||
| So it seems like Crenshaw said exactly the opposite of what Alex is claiming. | ||
| That is, it was confusing for me to hear that Dan Crenshaw was in favor of that. | ||
| That was, that would have been an interesting turn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex probably just misread a meme or tweet someone one of his idiot friends posted and ran with it because he hates Crenshaw to begin with. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Another thing, the fake pledging to withdraw from the Colorado primary if they didn't let Trump back on the ballot is kind of giving up the game a little bit. | ||
| He knows damn well he has no chance at even coming in third in the GOP primaries, so him saying he's going to give this up is him threatening to sacrifice nothing for the opportunity to grandstand, which is really what his entire campaign is about to begin with. | ||
| This is a prime opportunity for Vivek to further solidify himself with extreme right-wing media figures and stake out his place in that ecosystem. | ||
| Further, if he has any actual interest of being in the government, then he's making He has zero chance of winning, but if Trump wins, that dude is all about loyalty. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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| Leaving all those potential angles aside, it's really funny for me to see Vivek thinking that he can threaten to withdraw from the primary. | ||
| Like, it's going to have any sway on overturning a court decision. | ||
| Like, the Secretary of State's going to ignore the Colorado Supreme Court because this ding-dong polling at 4% is throwing a tantrum? | ||
| Like, come on. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| It is to all of our detriment that the style guides of every major publication have not been updated to include just, like, any time Vivek speaks, uh, jerk-off motion. | ||
| Like, Shut up, man. | ||
| There's no point in him talking. | ||
| And that the newspapers keep like, Vivek says, stop it. | ||
| All of you, stop it. | ||
| You're embarrassing yourselves. | ||
| Or at least you're embarrassing me. | ||
| I do think it might be necessary for people to talk about the fact that he's throwing around all that great replacement shit. | ||
| Meanwhile, Trump's talking about poisoning the blood of America and shit. | ||
| That's relevant. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Maybe it should be covered slightly differently, but... | ||
| Who if... | ||
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| How about this? | ||
| If you are surprised they're Nazis now, I'm glad you're finally here. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| But that you're surprised says way more about you than it says about, oh, they're Nazis now. | ||
| Maybe you're just like a benefit of the doubt guy. | ||
| Maybe you are a benefit of the doubt guy. | ||
| Maybe this is a shock to your system. | ||
| Oh my! | ||
| Trump has started using Nazi terminology! | ||
| Who could ever have imagined that a Nazi would do that? | ||
| So the State Department, right? | ||
| They go around and they get other countries to disqualify people from ballots and stuff. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| Alex is going to talk about this a little bit. | ||
| Is this domestic spying shit? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think Alex is just, he has a weird attempt at an argument. | ||
| And spoiler alert, it's because he saw a tweet. | ||
| We've got massive news on that front. | ||
| And then what we do is what other folks don't do. | ||
| And I wish everybody did this, but we connect it in to the State Department that supposedly oversees elections around the world unless they're overthrowing your government. | ||
| They went down last year and set it up where Bolsonaro has been banned for running for president for eight years. | ||
| They admit they were behind that. | ||
| And they go around to all these other countries and say, oh, you're outlawing people voting for who they want. | ||
| You're pulling candidates off the ballot. | ||
| I got a bunch of examples around the world of U.S. sanctions against Venezuela, other countries, because they're pulling the same communist, totalitarian, fascistic tyranny. | ||
| I mean, this is dyed-in-the-wool. | ||
| If this was an alcoholic beverage, it's 200-proof tyranny. | ||
| It's solid thoroughbred. | ||
| Triple Crown evil. | ||
| Don't drink that evil. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I mean, as far as a turn of phrase goes, this is 200-proof tyranny? | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| Thoroughbred. | ||
| Thoroughbred tyranny. | ||
| So I'm going to wait until Alex gives any of those examples that he has, because I've played that game way too many times. | ||
| More often than not, the copious examples of tyranny never materialize, and I end up on a wild goose chase. | ||
| That said, he did bring up Bolsonaro, so let's touch on that for a minute. | ||
| Alex cannot prove that the U.S. State Department was involved in the decision to bar Bolsonaro from running for office. | ||
| He's just asserting that confidently because he knows that tricks most listeners into assuming there's no way he would say something so confidently if he's just making it up. | ||
| I mean, that would be an insane thing for a person to just make up that our State Department banned Bolsonaro from the ballot of another country. | ||
| You wouldn't just make that up, would you? | ||
| He did. | ||
| Even so, he just can't run until 2030. | ||
| That's what Bolsonaro's situation is. | ||
| He's on timeout because he abused his elected position in multiple instances. | ||
| Brazil also has a lot more of a precedent of this kind of thing than the U.S. does. | ||
| Like, the current president, Lula, was previously ruled ineligible to run for office, and then he had his eligibility reinstated. | ||
| There are other figures in Brazil's history who have been ineligible. | ||
| It's something that has happened. | ||
| There is something we said about a country that is more open with its corruption. | ||
| Because, you know, it's like, hey, listen, we know our government's corrupt. | ||
| They've been doing this shit for a long time. | ||
| We've got ways to... | ||
| Kind of deal with it. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| Also, like, the Brazilian right wing doesn't even care about this as much as Alex does. | ||
| Since after he lost the last election, Bolsonaro fled to Florida for a few months and left the opposition with no leadership. | ||
| They are not that worried that he can't run. | ||
| Alex also brings up Venezuela, which is interesting to me. | ||
| On the one hand, Alex believes that the globalists are in cahoots with Nicolas Maduro, as they were with his successor, Hugo Chavez. | ||
| Yet, at the same time, apparently the globalists in the State Department are sanctioning Maduro for not having fair elections. | ||
| Existing within Alex's reality can be a bit perplexing because you're demanded to believe A and not A constantly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also, does Alex not remember when the U.S. State Department tacitly supported Juan Guaido declaring himself a legitimate president in 2019? | ||
| Their electoral situation is all kinds of messy, and as bad as it feels here, I don't think it's comparable. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, one might even say that the State Department just saying, yeah, we think this guy won could be a little bit of a step too far. | ||
| Sometimes, but who knows? | ||
| I don't want to give the appearance that I believe that the State Department is... | ||
| All doing everything right, particularly as it relates to South and Latin American countries. | ||
| Not a good track record. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| That is not my argument at all. | ||
| But my argument is what Alex is saying is dumb. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And not based in reality. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| So Alex is going to get to the documents here about the Colorado Supreme Court case, but he gets kind of sidetracked. | ||
| This is so incredible. | ||
| So let's just go ahead and plow into this right now, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| And I'll show you all the documents, the Constitution, the articles, everything that I just mentioned. | ||
| I've got four stacks on this. | ||
| Breaking. | ||
| Colorado Supreme Court disqualifies Trump for the 2024 ballot. | ||
| Supreme Court to make final decision. | ||
| And it continues here. | ||
| Here is the Supreme Court justices in Colorado. | ||
| Look at these turds. | ||
| Just pulls up a picture of them and starts insulting them a little bit. | ||
| Also, they've gotten a huge flood of threats in the aftermath of this ruling. | ||
| Which, you know, Alex certainly isn't not playing into. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| You know, this is confusing to me. | ||
| I don't understand why people are that into the law. | ||
| Because one of our Supreme Court justices is owned by another human. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, they like that. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| The people who make new threats like that Clarence Thomas is owned by a right-wing billionaire. | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| You guys won! | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| No, I don't think that they're that into the law. | ||
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| I think that it feels good to threaten people. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I think that's really... | ||
| I think it's exciting for them to feel like threats are activism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what I mean, though. | ||
| It's like, I got that... | ||
| A few reports back, you know, where it's like the Supreme Court could still, you know, we didn't know as much as we do literally in the past week, you know? | ||
| Now that we know what we know, it's like, oh, well, the moment this happened, it's all over. | ||
| There was no point in pretending that there's a swing or that there's a different thing. | ||
| It's all over, right? | ||
| So they won! | ||
| Like, just, like, celebrate! | ||
| I'm bummed out that people on the right aren't just celebrating after the news about the Supreme Court. | ||
| Well, because I think... | ||
| You mean in terms of the Colorado case? | ||
| I mean in terms of... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean in terms of the report about ending Roe v. | ||
| Wade. | ||
| About how the Supreme Court justices literally were like, okay. | ||
| Let's act like we're not going to end abortion right away so people don't think that the only reason that we're here is to end abortion, which is like lying, because that's what they did. | ||
| So if the Supreme Court is lying to you in order to do unpopular right-wing things, then you won! | ||
| Celebrate! | ||
| No, because that's gauche, and you run the risk of looking like the bad guy. | ||
| And you don't want to do that because you want to feel good about yourself. | ||
| But it's the thing they already... | ||
| He looked like the bad guy! | ||
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Celebrate! | |
| Not if they pretend that they don't. | ||
| But then they get mad and threaten people. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| That sucks! | ||
| It does, but that's more fun for them because it feels righteous. | ||
| There's a feeling of righteousness. | ||
| Such a bummer. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is a real bummer. | ||
| At least a balloon that's like, hey, we own one! | ||
| You know, like, that would be nice. | ||
| Well... | ||
| The we would be a little bit iffy there. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
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He owns one of the judges. | |
| So, Alex has some thoughts about this, the whole proceeding with Colorado. | ||
| Colorado Supreme Court yesterday disqualified Trump from the 2024 ballot. | ||
| The legal theories are based on Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution 14th Amendment, which states public officials who have engaged in insurrection or rebellion may be disqualified from public office, but there was no trial, no jury. | ||
| Judges don't get to decide unless you're in North Korea. | ||
| I don't think they get to decide better either. | ||
| Judges deciding Trump's fate in New York. | ||
| Judges found my fate in the Sandy Hook stuff in Texas and Connecticut. | ||
| This is judicial tyranny, and it is a legal coup by the ambulance chasers over our country. | ||
| There was a trial at the beginning of the case that led to the Colorado Supreme Court decision. | ||
| Alex is lying about there not being won because it. | ||
| Way easier. | ||
| Trump's lawyers could have requested a jury trial in his case in New York, but they didn't. | ||
| He may not have gotten one because the statute that he's in violation of is generally handled with a bench trial with a judge and not a jury, but he could have requested one and he very well might have gotten it. | ||
| Similarly, Alex could have had as much of a jury trial as he wanted if he had just cooperated with the discovery process of his case. | ||
| He and Trump have both landed themselves squarely into the positions they are in now and are desperate to present the mess they've made as evidence of their own persecution. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| It's very sad. | ||
| It's baby shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they should just grow up. | ||
| But... | ||
| There's so much upside in pretending that you're the victim of this judicial tyranny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's such a fun character to play. | ||
| And it's so easy to forget that the rules are arcane to the point of absurdity. | ||
| You know, like, oh, there wasn't even a trial. | ||
| No, my friend. | ||
| In order to get a case in front of the Colorado Supreme Court, this trial had to occur. | ||
| Then this motion had to be filed. | ||
| Then this motion had to be refiled. | ||
| And then this trial had to occur. | ||
| And then blank. | ||
| And then it went to the appeals process. | ||
| And then another month happened. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| There's no such thing as just, oh, they ruled on it. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, not how this works, man. | ||
| Done. | ||
| So Alex reveals a little bit more about Dan Crenshaw. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I realized what was going on here was not exactly what Alex had presented. | ||
| Vivek Ramaswani, last night, he's on the show in an hour and 15 minutes today. | ||
| A real leader. | ||
| No way. | ||
| He's a sleeper-seller operative, folks. | ||
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Wait, that's racist. | |
| He's really devastated. | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| Damage the globalists. | ||
| You don't do that when you are with them. | ||
| You do what Crenshaw just did, and I've got his tweet here. | ||
| When Vivek Ramaswani said, I'm pulling out of Colorado and others should, boycotting this fraud, he said, good. | ||
| You should pull yourself off all the ballots. | ||
| He supports this evil. | ||
| Crenshaw. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| He's the biggest liar in the Republican Party and makes me want to throw up. | ||
| We need him to be voted out of office. | ||
| He is disgusting. | ||
| He's a disgusting, disgusting person. | ||
| I'll show you that. | ||
| Hell, I'll just show it to you right now before I visit Ramaswani Club. | ||
| Ramaswani pledges to withdraw from Colorado ballot amid Trump removal. | ||
| And here's Dan Crenshaw. | ||
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Maybe he suggests withdraw from all the other states, too. | |
| And then he's out there supporting this. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Good impression. | ||
| Dan Crenshaw, the gay pirate, here we go, is literally saying you can't vote for who you want. | ||
| Man. | ||
| He is disgusting. | ||
| Crenshaw said literally the opposite. | ||
| He's just making fun of the vacant. | ||
| That was it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He was just saying, maybe you should withdraw balls. | ||
| Alex is just lying about his positions. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| But when you said he's racist, are you saying because there's no way he's a sleeper? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's what I think. | ||
| I understand your reading of that comment, and I think it's more about the fact that he has Soros connections in his younger life. | ||
| I think it's more of a political sleeper cell kind of thing than it is anything that has to do with race. | ||
| I am one too. | ||
| Sure, I mean... | ||
| I don't have the full context of that, so yeah, sure. | ||
| I think it's about criticisms of Vivek's early life and his education. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah, no, no. | ||
| I'm willing to say that that's the case and not the other guy. | ||
| It's not like I'm running low on racism examples, you know? | ||
| Like, I can give up on this one. | ||
| This one, not racist. | ||
| My bag, still full. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Still full. | ||
| Yeah, I just wanted to, you know, give a little bit of... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| He can't always be espousing racism. | ||
| He can't always be. | ||
| It's just not physically possible. | ||
| Sometimes there is another explanation for the things that he's saying that could be misread, and I think it's fair to point that out. | ||
| 99.9% time with Alex. | ||
| It's a dick. | ||
| But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex is going to get into all these examples of the State Department and the proof of... | ||
| Yeah, let's go. | ||
| So before he does, he just has to basically espouse his brand. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This is a minute and 42 seconds of him essentially telling you how you should look at him. | ||
| Brand awareness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to show you the State Department, the Constitution, all of it. | ||
| Because we're not like mainstream media here. | ||
| We don't just say things and not show it to you. | ||
| We neurotically show you everything. | ||
| I was on Crowder's show today. | ||
| I was putting myself down. | ||
| He said, why are you doing that? | ||
| You need to stop. | ||
| Well, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Because I'm a sinner, folks. | ||
| I've made big mistakes. | ||
| And I was making the point that Madeline Albright is on Iraq that killed 2 million people. | ||
| The time she did the interview, it was halfway through it, so she killed a million, half of them children under the age of 10. And she said, yeah, we killed them. | ||
| We do it again. | ||
| It was a good price to pay. | ||
| And I said, I've never killed anybody, and I've got to be banned everywhere. | ||
| I went, whoa, whoa, wait. | ||
| I actually killed some of my children. | ||
| And all the people I murdered. | ||
| Oh, for God's sakes. | ||
| But I knew what I was doing. | ||
| I believed the lies. | ||
| I was a teenager. | ||
| Girls are like, you know, I wouldn't push them to have abortions, but they're like, give me 300 bucks. | ||
| And I did that. | ||
| So I admit that so people that have had abortions can know you can be forgiven. | ||
| You can repent. | ||
| God will give you a mission. | ||
| You're probably going to go through some hell and penance. | ||
| Is that the rule? | ||
| Is that a one mission per abortion? | ||
| Suicide squad. | ||
| On a suicide mission because he was lusting after his wife. | ||
| But he later completely repented and it was real. | ||
| So God forgave him. | ||
| So yeah, I say terrible things about myself that are true because I want you to know I'm real, folks. | ||
| And reality is what matters. | ||
| And being bonafide and being the real McCoy, we're going to bring that back. | ||
| That's what this broadcast is all about. | ||
| But that means you've got to be honest when you're wrong. | ||
| Because that's an example to others, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Be the example, Alex. | ||
| So none of what he said is true, except for possibly the parts where he said he paid for a bunch of abortions. | ||
| That is almost certainly true. | ||
| All this is just bullshit, but it's the declaration of the brand. | ||
| This isn't Alex, but it's how Alex wants to be seen, as bona fide, as someone who's neurotically proving the points that he makes with documentation, as someone who's willing to admit when he's wrong. | ||
| These are diametrically opposed to the real person and media figure that he is, but if you say it enough times, people are just going to be like, You're bonafide. | ||
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| We're bringing back being real. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just, you might as well say, get her done. | ||
| This is catchphrase level shit for him. | ||
| It has no connection to reality. | ||
| I mean, it is never not like a, it is a physically painful thing for me whenever he says something that is the exact opposite of true, you know? | ||
| Like he's willing to admit when he's wrong? | ||
| Like that, or just like... | ||
| I'm not fake. | ||
| Like, when he just says, I'm not fake, that's 180 degrees away from the truth, you know? | ||
| Like, it is the literal opposite of the truth. | ||
| I will give anything for just, like, a degree off. | ||
| 179 degrees off. | ||
| I'm mostly not fake. | ||
| Like, I'd be fine with that, you know? | ||
| But it's 180 is so infuriating. | ||
| It is, but that's how you do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we get down to these examples. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we start with Venezuela. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Dems, two months ago, will lift sanctions on Venezuela, but only if Maduro stops disqualifying his political opponents. | ||
| So the U.S. lifted the sanctions, and one week later, they arrested their political opposition. | ||
| They didn't just ban them from running. | ||
| U.S. to ease sanctions on Venezuela oil for freer elections next year. | ||
| That was in October. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Then the arrests began after the sanctions were lifted. | ||
| That's the Washington Post. | ||
| Venezuela opposition signed election deal, U.S. wage sanction relief. | ||
| Gave it to him, and then, of course, the communists double-crossed everybody. | ||
| So the way that Alex is wording what he's saying is very telling. | ||
| If you search for the exact words, he's not reading any kind of primary source. | ||
| He's reading a tweet from a guy named Son of Haas, who was making a post trying to dunk on Democrats. | ||
| Son of Haas? | ||
| Whoa, that's a big voice in the intellectual dark... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, his name rings out. | ||
| That's the level of research and content you're going to get on InfoWars. | ||
| Alex defending his assertions by pointing at tweets random people posted. | ||
| Alex isn't really right on the timeline of the stuff he's saying here either. | ||
| That headline that he reads, quote, U.S. to ease sanctions on Venezuelan oil for free or presidential elections, is from a screenshot in the Son of Haas tweet. | ||
| And it wasn't like Maduro just started imprisoning opponents after that point in October. | ||
| Amnesty International has documented cases of politically motivated arbitrary detentions going back to at least 2018. | ||
| While it is true that Maduro has not necessarily kept up his end of the bargain made back in October, it's not an escalation. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| the next election sure that's usually an issue there's an important point that just kind of never gets brought up in conversations like this that alex has which is that similar actions can be good or bad depending on circumstances for instance in this case he's presenting two cases where someone is being disqualified from seeking office and it's just taken as established that these two cases are the same thing everyone is so mad when maduro does it but then the globalists turn around to do it here but the reality is that these are not similar situations at all alex might have a point if | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Also, Biden just negotiated the release of a number of U.S. citizens who were being held in Venezuela. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| But I guess that probably happened, I think it was like last night, there was news about that. | ||
| So maybe it was after Alex was on air. | ||
| Yeah, you know, that is an interesting thing about the way that the systems are different in that term, you know, is like... | ||
| When you think about the Brazilian stuff, the Supreme Court being corrupt there and disqualifying Lula from the ballot and all of that stuff, and the way that that worked out, being so close, if that makes sense. | ||
| Like, the system is so close. | ||
| The president and the Supreme Court and the guys, they're all hanging out together, doing the thing. | ||
| Or in Venezuela, the president. | ||
| Hey, guys, just... | ||
| Get him out of there. | ||
| He's gone. | ||
| Be done with that. | ||
| Whereas in the United States, it has to be laundered through so many different possible avenues of, like, so many different breakpoints. | ||
| And yet, at the same time, there are still plenty of ways, like, through judge shopping, through going through a certain district, through finding out little ways to navigate the system, where you do essentially get... | ||
| The same corrupt ruling, if that makes sense, as if you were close, you know? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe not the same. | ||
| Not the same, but if you navigate it well, which is the stories that we read now, you know, it's like when the conservative legal activists navigate the system well, it really looks like all they did was walk up to somebody and say, change the law for me, please. | ||
| And then they did. | ||
| Well, see, but this is again what is exploitable by people who aren't, who don't... | ||
| You know, you're being strategic about. | ||
| But it isn't the same thing as like authoritarian decree of some sort. | ||
| They do look similar, especially in terms of what the outcome you're imagining. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they are not the same. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And theoretically, it's available to everyone. | ||
| You know, that judge shopping, that finding that stuff. | ||
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In theory. | |
| In theory, you know. | ||
| It's just a fascinating system. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What about Cambodia's system? | ||
| Not sure about functional, but fascinating, definitely. | ||
| What about Cambodia? | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Last I checked. | ||
| I'm writing off the comparison, the analogousness of Venezuela to the United States. | ||
| Sure, yeah, yeah. | ||
| In terms of... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, please. | ||
| Please do. | ||
| Quite different circumstances. | ||
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| So now the next one Alex has is Cambodia. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| U.S. says Cambodia vote neither free nor fair because they banned the opposition candidates that were in the lead. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Where have I heard of that before? | ||
| So this one isn't from a tweet, so that's good. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Cambodia isn't really a democracy that I would compare to this country, seeing as their prime minister, Hun Sen, had been in office for 38 years and has now handed off power to his son. | ||
| In the last election, political opposition parties were disqualified. | ||
| Again, this is the same example with the Venezuela one. | ||
| There's an optical similarity between the situations in that someone was disqualified for running from office, but beyond that very shallow surface-level appearance, the situations are not comparable at all. | ||
| I have democratically elected your successor, my son. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| After almost 40 years in office. | ||
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| That's fantastic. | ||
| That's great. | ||
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Sweet. | |
| That's some good democracy going on right there. | ||
| So here's the next example. | ||
| U.S. expands sanctions on Belarusian regime, marking the three-year anniversary of the fraudulent August 2020 presidential election, where they restricted who could run against them. | ||
| Now, this one definitely doesn't make sense, because Alex loves Belarus, and has said that their presidential dictator, Alexander Lukashenko, sounds like him when he gives speeches. | ||
| I was gonna say. | ||
| Alex absolutely does not think that Lukashenko would repress his political enemies. | ||
| If anything, they're repressing him. | ||
| Again, this is a dictator who's been in power since 1994, literally their first elected leader after the fall of the Soviet Union. | ||
| The situation is in no way comparable to the Colorado ruling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But again, you have the appearance. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I wonder how it feels to be that kind of... | ||
| So it's 94. You know, the Soviet Union's fallen. | ||
| And then you're the dictator of Belarus. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| That's an interesting thing to me. | ||
| Obviously, dictator. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| But if I'm waking up in the morning looking at my day of dictating, that's a lot of challenges. | ||
| He's not done a great job since then. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it would be interesting to see what a sim version of that life would be, if that makes sense. | ||
| I bet there's a video game. | ||
| There's so many games. | ||
| The Lukashenko RPG would be an interesting game. | ||
| You hear that? | ||
| Yeah, get on it, EA. | ||
| Activision? | ||
| Somebody? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So we have another example. | ||
| And again, doesn't work. | ||
| As Zimbabwe electioneers, the ruling party focuses on Western sanctions for banning the leading opposition. | ||
| Just like Zelensky just did in Ukraine last year. | ||
| First of all, Ukraine's currently being invaded. | ||
| I'm not going to fully back every decision Zelensky has made, but he banned political parties that were tied to Russia, the country that is invading them. | ||
| That is not similar to the Colorado ruling at all. | ||
| Zimbabwe has been sanctioned by the U.S. over election-related stuff going back to at least 2002. | ||
| Their elections are definitely fraught with problems, and Robert Mugabe being in power for 30 years and then being succeeded by an ally of his certainly doesn't help. | ||
| Another dictatorship situation. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| More to the point, though, Alex has said on air that the people of Zimbabwe would be better off under apartheid, so I'm not really sure he cares too much about electoral integrity there. | ||
| I think this might be performance. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| I think this might be a bad list. | ||
| It would be an interesting system if after the Civil War, instead of anything, instead they were like, Jefferson Davis, how about you run legitimately to turn this into the Confederacy? | ||
| I don't think that's good. | ||
| I don't think you should just be able to run for the president of taking over the country. | ||
| And I think that would be a little bit similar to somebody from Russia trying to become the president of Ukraine. | ||
| Yeah, I think... | ||
| I'm just trying to think of the invasion aspect as opposed to the from within thing. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm bewildered by this list that Alex has. | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| No, that's crazy. | ||
| But there's one more. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| U.S. sanctions Guatemalan officials over undemocratic activity, banning their political opposition. | ||
| Heard of that before? | ||
| So the State Department, until the last couple years, runs around sanctioning people when they do this, but now they go down and teach them how to do it. | ||
| So Alex is lying about the issue with the election in Guatemala in order to make it sound more similar to his current gripe. | ||
| In that case, the U.S. was looking at sanctions because Bernardo Arevalo had won the presidency, but the country's attorney general was trying to find ways to stop him from taking office. | ||
| Political opposition wasn't banned. | ||
| The party currently in power is just trying to do what Trump did after 2020. | ||
| So all of Alex's examples don't really relate, but man, it feels like he made his point. | ||
| Like, he feels that way. | ||
| He feels very strongly that he did a good job. | ||
| He had his intern print out whatever headlines he could find that related to sanctions and election issues, and then he rattled them off with no analysis whatsoever. | ||
| And the point seems to be that up until a few years ago, the State Department would sanction these countries, but now they go teach them how to disqualify their opponents, presumably by example with the Colorado ruling. | ||
| That theory would probably hit a bit harder if pretty much all of the headlines Alex is reading off about sanctions for these countries over election issues, they weren't all from the last few months. | ||
| These are all current headlines. | ||
| The Guatemala situation is still ongoing, and Aravelo isn't set to take office until January 14th. | ||
| The Venezuela situation involves sanctions that were eased in October. | ||
| The Cambodia article is from July. | ||
| This is what it looks like when someone tries to make a low-effort but high-intensity defense of something that he'd rather not get too in-depth about. | ||
| It's all just very convoluted and amounts to nothing, but it kind of feels like he's making a point. | ||
| If you're listening passively, you don't really know what he's talking about. | ||
| I would put it to you this. | ||
| Starting a democracy. | ||
| Starting a republic. | ||
| Starting a complicated form of representative government. | ||
| You might need somebody to come in, give you some assistance. | ||
| Starting a dictatorship? | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| I don't think you should... | ||
| If you need help starting a dictator, I don't think you should be one. | ||
| You may have failed the first test. | ||
| Yeah, the first test is that you gotta do it on your own, bud. | ||
| Yeah, I was listening to that, and it strains the brain to even really try and... | ||
| Take the pieces of information and mold them into, like, okay, this is the slam dunk Alex thinks he's making. | ||
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It's just no effort. | |
| Who's at the State Department, whose job is it to go to places to teach them to disqualify opponents? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Do you get a, is there a degree for that? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| International relations. | ||
| At least that's good. | ||
| It's a sub-degree in that. | ||
| Sabotaging international relations. | ||
| Also, is the goal that he thinks that someone should sanction us? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Are sanctions good in this scenario or bad? | ||
| Well, he hates all of the regimes that are, you know, being sanctioned. | ||
| Sure, I mean, but the sanctions themselves are just a tool. | ||
| Does he want no sanctions? | ||
| It's unclear. | ||
| They're hypocritical, sure, if that's what you want. | ||
| I... | ||
| You know, I know that he's opposed to foreign aid and stuff like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| But this is the opposite of that. | ||
| It is the complete opposite of that. | ||
| So he might be for that. | ||
| It is the, yeah, it doesn't get more opposite than sanctioning people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I do think that he would have no problem with, like, sovereign countries imposing sanctions on other places in order to enforce, you know, their ideas about global issues. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Like, what else would you do? | ||
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Yeah, I mean, I guess there's war. | |
| It is the international relations form of a boycott, if you will. | ||
| A little bit of a boycott campaign. | ||
| Aha, we're boycotting the existence of you. | ||
| I'm just not sure what Alex wants in this situation, other than to appear that he's making a point. | ||
| I don't get the angle, really. | ||
| I mean, I think you are right in a lot of ways. | ||
| There's a certain amount of just keeping score here. | ||
| You know, like, oh, I get this one. | ||
| I get five points today, you know, for naming all of these. | ||
| I read five headlines. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's like, try and make up with this deluge of things I'm yelling at you. | ||
| And it's very easy to, if you just stop and take a second and be like, what is he talking about? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And recognize it's not comparable in the least. | ||
| That's why he's already ten steps past you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| These lies take a second to throw out, and we talk for ten minutes about the particulars. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, you know, also, Europe's going to be all bad. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it gets worse. | ||
| In France, in Poland, in Germany, they're banning free speech outright. | ||
| Any criticism of government, any criticism of war, they're shutting down opposition TV stations. | ||
| The new Polish leader just did this. | ||
| He wants full war with Russia. | ||
| Europe on cusp of mass secret censorship. | ||
| Starting to figure out how the cow ate the cabbage, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Trump convicted of nothing. | ||
| And this group of lawyers, because they sit up there as judges in their little black outfits and feel so powerful, like they're invincible. | ||
| And now they just told America, you can't vote for who you want. | ||
| I think you and Alex might get along on that making fun of judges' outfits. | ||
| Oh, yeah, 100%. | ||
| Yeah, you might find common ground there. | ||
| Blaze Bailey Finnegan III, my man. | ||
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You think you're God just because you could send people up the river for 20 years? | |
| Well, you're not! | ||
| Well, that is not critiquing wardrobe, though. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I think you and Alex are both air on the side of, look at that robe. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| Let's all stop and really think. | ||
| It's 2023. | ||
| They could just wear a button. | ||
| True. | ||
| Wearing a robe is kind of stupid. | ||
| Well, there are some countries that have wigs. | ||
| See? | ||
| They could just wear a button, too. | ||
| So that headline about Europe being on the cusp of secret censorship is just a substack post written by Michael Schellenberger, who I have little faith in. | ||
| It's also a paid post, so I can't really read it without subscription, but I found a little backdoor version of it. | ||
| And it's just a sycophantic rambling about how Elon Musk shouldn't have to be bound by EU regulation and the way he runs Twitter. | ||
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Gross. | |
| The headline's a little bit dramatic, and in this op-ed, it's not... | ||
| It's opinion. | ||
| It's not news reporting. | ||
| Oh, so it's the Twitter is allowing too much Nazi talk for the EU, right? | ||
| Isn't that the... | ||
| Not just that, but yeah, broadly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So as for Poland, the far-right Law and Justice Party just lost the most recent election. | ||
| The newly elected Prime Minister Donald Tusk made it part of his campaign to make changes to the TVP, the state media broadcaster, which had to effectively become an arm of the Law and Justice Party. | ||
| Tusk clearly had the backing of the public. | ||
| were passed by Parliament. | ||
| So it's not like he's going about this like a dictator and making unilateral moves. | ||
| Alex shouldn't have a problem with this. | ||
| He's talked constantly about how Trump should fire everybody And incidentally, the person Trump put in charge of VOA, Michael Pack, Trump's administration was doing exactly the thing Alex is complaining about being done in Poland, except that they didn't pursue appropriate legal channels. | ||
| But that wasn't bad to Alex. | ||
| This is because in Poland, the goal is to bring greater neutrality to a channel that's become a far right outlet. | ||
| So no matter how it's being done, this is horrible, evil censorship. | ||
| Conversely, with Voice of America, Alex thinks that it's dirty, liberal, globalist propaganda. | ||
| So attempts to destroy it, even using clearly illegal methods, are a good thing and definitely not censorship. | ||
| Yeah, it is hard to understate how much better everyone would feel. | ||
| If Congress was just like, everybody in the far-right media, you've got to take it down a notch. | ||
| And I mean, I'm not even talking about changing viewpoints or anything like that. | ||
| I'm talking about everyone would feel better if they weren't screaming at us all the time. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you agree with them. | ||
| I guarantee you, you would feel a little bit better if you were just a little bit calmer. | ||
| If there was a magic switch to impose a regulation of calm down. | ||
| Just like a little bit of a turn it down a notch, man. | ||
| Just turn it down a little bit. | ||
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Everybody would feel better. | |
| So Alex gets to a little bit of a TV report about the Colorado ruling, and he gets mad at the reporters. | ||
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And, I mean, does the context even matter to Trump supporters? | |
| Because there have been. | ||
| I mean, tonight's ruling was really lengthy, explaining point by point why they believe he incited the insurrection. | ||
| Hit pause. | ||
| Hit pause. | ||
| It was really lengthy. | ||
| I've got the stupid thing right here. | ||
| No conviction, no proof. | ||
| Him saying, do not. | ||
| Be violent. | ||
| We're peacefully. | ||
| And he had rallies all over the country that were peaceful. | ||
| That's his M.O. The left burns everything down. | ||
| It was really lengthy. | ||
| Well, I can chain up 500 chimpanzees at typewriters and put them on methamphetamine, and they'll type you a million pages. | ||
| This is really lengthy. | ||
| The judges, their opinion. | ||
| Not convicted of insurrection. | ||
| Not charged with insurrection. | ||
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Charged with lying? | |
| Federally and at the state level? | ||
| In D.C. and Georgia? | ||
| No, we all saw the fraud too. | ||
| It was there. | ||
| And it's coming out everywhere. | ||
| Trump was right. | ||
| It was worse than he said. | ||
| Alright, that's enough. | ||
| I'm not going to play any more of that idiot woman. | ||
| These people are disgusting. | ||
| It was very lengthy. | ||
| Oh my gosh, it was 100 pages long. | ||
| I mean, wow. | ||
| The judges really explained here. | ||
| Trump said, let's march peacefully and have our voices heard. | ||
| We want a 10-day in the Constitution investigation of this. | ||
| And then, before he even finished his speech, the feds set that whole thing off, and we all know the rest of history. | ||
| Yeah, the fake history. | ||
| So it's interesting that Alex is hinging so much of his response here on the fact that the report is long. | ||
| It is, but that's because it's detailed in its analysis, and it doesn't take lightly the subject it's covering. | ||
| It's not just random shit chimpanzees typed on a page. | ||
| They fully justify why they affirm the lower court's determination that Trump engaged in an insurrection. | ||
| They justify how the definition of insurrection fits the case, and then they walk through the various acts that Trump took that were essential elements of what happened that day. | ||
| For instance, he singled out Mike Pence as someone who could refuse to certify the election, and when Pence didn't follow through, the rioters in the Capitol chanted about hanging him. | ||
| The standard that they applied was that to engage in the insurrection meant to act, quote, overtly and voluntarily with the intent of aiding or furthering the insurrectionists common unlawful purpose. | ||
| One very major point in this direction is that after the violence broke out, instead of taking any action to promote a resolution to the rioting, Trump instead called on senators, quote, urging them to help delay the electoral count, which is what the mob upon President Trump's exhortations was out. | ||
| Also trying to achieve. | ||
| So their goals were aligned. | ||
| That seems tough to get around! | ||
| That does seem difficult to stop. | ||
| But the fantasy version of January 6th is reality in Alex's world, so trying to argue the point with someone like him is a fool's errand, and it's pointless. | ||
| That cement is dried in terms of Alex and his ilk. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| Man, that little stretch there is sad. | ||
| I mean, it is just like him being... | ||
| This is a lengthy report that goes line by line and detail by... | ||
| It doesn't matter if it's long. | ||
| It doesn't matter what they say. | ||
| I'm done with this stupid woman. | ||
| Oh, sure, they have all their reasoning, boy. | ||
| It's all gibberish. | ||
| Don't go look at it. | ||
| We have the documents. | ||
| Don't go look at those documents. | ||
| You don't... | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, they say we were trying to delay the certification. | ||
| No, we wanted a 10-day delay. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| All right, I'm not sure if that helps as much as you think. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So we get to a little bit of Clarence Thomas talk. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The beleaguered and... | ||
| Good friend. | ||
| Unappreciated in his time. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Ketanji Brown is now being exposed for her husband taking massive money. | ||
| From companies that she directly is really on cases of. | ||
| Clarence Thomas never did that. | ||
| He flew on private airplanes and went on vacations with friends. | ||
| Totally. | ||
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His friends. | |
| But we all know how it works. | ||
| If you're a Democrat, you can engage in insider trading, anything you want. | ||
| You can say burn down cities and bail out people that have shot folks like Kamala Harris at his candidate for vice president. | ||
| And they're coming after Clarence Thomas big time, and he should not recuse himself from these Trump cases. | ||
| And it's good to see the heat going on Ketanji Brown. | ||
| Jackson slapped with so much heat over her husband's income. | ||
| Go after the Democrat justices. | ||
| They're the ones that are corrupt. | ||
| On average, Democrats are ten times more corrupt than Republicans. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And they always have been. | ||
| Possession's nine-tenths of the law. | ||
| I mean, I don't care. | ||
| So there's an ethics complaint filed that Kentonji Brown Jackson did not file disclosures of some of her husband's income, which came from him consulting on medical malpractice cases. | ||
| There's no indication of any wrongdoing on her part in terms of hearing cases, but some folks have said that she should recuse herself if issues that relate to that kind of thing come up. | ||
| Alex is greatly exaggerating this because it's not really about Jackson's possible corruption. | ||
| This is just a smokescreen to try and excuse Clarence Thomas' very obvious and flagrant abuse of power. | ||
| I mean, it's comical. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| On a very basic level, Clarence Thomas has accepted gifts worth in the hundreds of thousands of dollars from billionaire Harlan Crow, including luxury vacations and half-million-dollar gift to Thomas' wife's tea party group. | ||
| That shit's been going on for years, and the gifts were never disclosed. | ||
| It also just came out that Thomas was in a ton of debt about 20 years ago and sought to get the salaries for Supreme Court justices raised. | ||
| According to the New Republic, quote, within months, Republican billionaires began giving him extravagant gifts. | ||
| What? | ||
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He had previously and privately lamented that if he didn't make more money as a judge, he might have to leave the bench. | |
| And presumably that scared the billionaires on the right who started prompting. | ||
| Promptly subsidizing his lifestyle. | ||
| All the information hasn't even come to light yet, and even just from what we know, this is a textbook case of brazen corruption. | ||
| I mean, it's, it is, I mean, I'm fine, how about this, alright? | ||
| It's so brazen, and so obvious, that we should all be celebrating it in a way of like... | ||
| I didn't even know you could do that. | ||
| You're setting records. | ||
| It's like we all laughed and had a good time with George Santos, right? | ||
| Clarence Thomas is George Santos times a million, but it's not funny because he's Supreme Court justice. | ||
| The power is out of balance with the... | ||
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Comical catch-me-if-you-can kind of... | |
| I'm gonna lie about everything, and I do not give a fuck. | ||
| But also, if Alex wants to make a big deal out of this ethics complaint against Justice Jackson, that's fine. | ||
| I do think that, you know, conflicts of interest, especially in a Supreme Court, should be taken seriously and looked at. | ||
| But it's embarrassing to use that as a launching pad to run cover for Clarence Thomas' very clear abuse of his position. | ||
| I mean, listen. | ||
| Also... | ||
| Alex should probably be interested in the fact that Thomas and Harlan Crow went to Bohemian Grove together a bunch, but I guess worshipping the devil and carrying out human sacrifice is only a problem when you want it to be. | ||
| It's only a problem when the people I don't like are doing it. | ||
| I mean, to even pretend that what the Supreme Court has to say matters is... | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| Do you think that Clarence Thomas might have been there when Alex broke into Bohemian Grove? | ||
| He might have. | ||
| He might have. | ||
| He really might have. | ||
| It's all dark. | ||
| You can't see anybody. | ||
| He really might have. | ||
| But I mean, you know, include Kavanaugh's credit card bills. | ||
| Include all of this shit. | ||
| The Supreme Court is laughably corrupt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you want to know my conspiracy, though? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Do you know my best conspiracy? | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Do you know who ruled? | ||
| Remember Pizzagate? | ||
| Remember firing those guns into Comet Ping Pong? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know who ruled on that case? | ||
| Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| She sent the Pizzagate guy to jail for life. | ||
| Do you know why? | ||
| Because she was paid to cover up the truth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's why she got onto the Supreme Court. | ||
| Done. | ||
| And you know who paid her? | ||
| Done. | ||
| Wayfair. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Wait, is it Etsy now? | ||
| Whatever it is now. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The new one. | ||
| The new... | ||
| Trafficker of note. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex gets into a meaningless rant and then remembers something mid-rant that's pretty funny. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All they keep doing is doubling down, so you don't need to be a rocket scientist. | ||
| I've said this. | ||
| Tucker Carlson said it. | ||
| Congressman Matt Gaetz has said it. | ||
| Jack Posobiec said it. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I dropped the ball. | ||
| I forgot to tell the crew. | ||
| Roger Stone's supposed to be on right now. | ||
| I dropped the ball. | ||
| Are you mad? | ||
| Jeez, it's my fault. | ||
| I get so busy. | ||
| So much goes on. | ||
| I set him up myself. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Let me just call Roger right now. | ||
| I talked to him last night. | ||
| Just call him right now. | ||
| We need to hear from Roger Stone right now. | ||
| We do. | ||
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We need to hear from Roger Stone right now. | |
| Yeah, so Alex had set up an interview with Roger, forgot to tell anybody, and then also forgot that it was happening. | ||
| And so on air, he remembers, ah, shit, I'm supposed to be talking to Roger right now. | ||
| Ah, man. | ||
| That is, like, one of the protections that I think unions should really coalesce around, which is, in situations like this, someone then should be allowed, someone from the crew should be allowed to scream at Alex that they're not mad. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| They should be allowed to. | ||
| I'm never coming back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fair turnabout. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So Alex calls Roger on his cell phone and very wisely says, I have you on air. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| As soon as possible. | ||
| And then they sort this out. | ||
| Hey, my bro, I got my dick. | ||
| I dropped the ball and didn't tell him you were on. | ||
| Can we dial into you right now? | ||
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Yeah, give me three seconds. | |
| Did you forget to? | ||
| No, actually, I just had a conference call that ran over, so let me go on. | ||
| Oh, so perfect. | ||
| You want to wait until the start of the next hour, or you want to go now? | ||
| What's the start of the next hour? | ||
| 15 minutes from now. | ||
| Is this on air talking? | ||
| All right, we'll do 30 minutes next hour ahead of Vibic's coming on. | ||
| All right, perfect. | ||
| All right, thanks, bye. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Well, that works out. | ||
| He forgot to do it, basically. | ||
| All right, we're all busy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I was about to talk about Roger Stone. | ||
| I'm like, wait, we need Roger on. | ||
| And he has to talk to the big guy. | ||
| I'll leave it at that. | ||
| The big guy! | ||
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The big guy! | |
| I grew up late last night, I tell you. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| And all the globalist fears are coming true. | ||
| Because I didn't used to advise Trump heavily. | ||
| They just thought, well, this is a colorful character. | ||
| You can take stuff out of context. | ||
| He's done to make Trump look bad. | ||
| So they blew me up. | ||
| And I was already huge with conservatives and stuff. | ||
| 2016, a third of the 100,000 people there were wearing my T-shirt. | ||
| So you go out there, just T-shirts everywhere. | ||
| And the left finally went, and their arrogance kind of deflated, which was a bad thing. | ||
| We love them being arrogant and blind at the fact that we're taking the country back peacefully, intellectually, politically, financially, spiritually. | ||
| And they're like, we'll say he's Trump's brain. | ||
| And it became a self-fulfilling prophecy. | ||
| And I'm not going to, it's not with even me and Roger and Trump, but the main advisors to Trump listen every day and a lot of my analysis and my game plan gets put in there. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| It's absolutely beautiful. | ||
| And of course, you never even hear in the news who his main advisors are. | ||
| They don't even know. | ||
| you We're ten steps ahead of him. | ||
| So Alex advises the secret advisors of Trump, which is great. | ||
| Did Alex advise him on the poisoning our blood thing? | ||
| I mean, that actually, yeah, that one does make sense. | ||
| That might have been an Alex original. | ||
| Do you ever tell yourself a story about yourself? | ||
| No. | ||
| I have never done that once. | ||
| I did when I was a child, I think. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what, yeah, I'm listening to this just going like... | ||
| How could I describe my day in this kind of fairy tale format? | ||
| Like, okay, so I woke up, but I can't even think of telling a story about myself like this. | ||
| No, it's bizarre. | ||
| It's bizarre! | ||
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Also... | |
| Because it's not true, and he knows it. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| How is this real? | ||
| It's for the audience. | ||
| They need to know that Alex is super important. | ||
| But look, I'm not so old, or so young, or however it would go, that I don't remember when Alex said that he had a telepathic link with Trump. | ||
| I do recall that happening. | ||
| I do recall that happening. | ||
| They talk about me all the time in the White House. | ||
| They call me the Texan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Trump's always like, what's the Texan saying? | ||
| What's the Texan think? | ||
| There's a new update on how back in the past it wasn't really happening, but now it totally is. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Pretty regularly. | ||
| Yeah, it does seem like that's a soft reboot that happens from time to time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has some reasonably offensive things to say in this next clip. | ||
| But then I think his conclusion I kind of agree with towards the end. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| It is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs what you're doing. | ||
| And we're thinking 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12 moves out. | ||
| And not just linear. | ||
| We've got major dialectic scans. | ||
| We don't need AI to do it. | ||
| We've got the advanced intelligence, not the artificial intelligence, to algorithm it with the autistics we've got. | ||
| And they know they're autistics. | ||
| I'm sorry, what is happening? | ||
| And they concur with my analysis. | ||
| And so I bounce this off, and I'm basically autistic in a way. | ||
| But it's really got advanced knowledge. | ||
| It's not magic. | ||
| The brain knows it. | ||
| How do you compute it down? | ||
| It's a Luke Skywalker blows up the Death Star without the computer, folks. | ||
| And that's what we're doing here. | ||
| So I don't say that to brag. | ||
| It's just become a giant self-fulfilling prophecy. | ||
| Because they said I was Trump's brain and I... | ||
| I mean, we were like 10% of what he was doing. | ||
| And like 30% of his talking points. | ||
| But they're right. | ||
| The new Trump presidency will be the people's presidency. | ||
| It'll be the Alex Jones presidency. | ||
| So, we know your next move's ahead of you. | ||
| Just know that. | ||
| You may have the, quote, power, but not for long, scumbags. | ||
| I mean, look, I do think that Alex is right, that a next Trump presidency... | ||
| If that should come to pass, will essentially be an InfoWars presidency. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's not to say that Alex will be advising the secret advisors or anything like that. | ||
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No. | |
| But the entire status of the right wing, the GOP as a whole, is beholden to ideas that are, like, undistinguishable from everything that's on InfoWars. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So you basically do have what you would call an Alex Jones presidency. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's not the president. | ||
| He's not actually guiding things, but his ideology may as well be what is in power. | ||
| And that's a terrifying prospect, but it is something that is in the cards. | ||
| The only difference is that Trump is going after Trump's enemies, not Alex's enemies. | ||
| And if Alex were president, he would be going after Alex's enemies and not Trump's enemies. | ||
| And there may be heavy overlap. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| And I think that Trump would be willing to go after some of the right-wing media's favorite enemies in order to maintain the base. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whether or not he particularly cares about a certain thing or not. | ||
| Past a certain point, it stops being about the enemies and starts being about the going after. | ||
| That's the fun part. | ||
| Has he shit on the vaccines yet? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Is he still... | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I don't know what's next. | ||
| I mean, I assume Nazism, but... | ||
| Not sure what that's going to play out like in 2024. | ||
| So Alex has Roger is going to come on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We did a phone call on air. | ||
| We're not going to listen to any of Avake's appearance because it is just basically basking in him saying that he's not going to be in Colorado. | ||
| How cool am I for taking a stand? | ||
| And then Alex also being like, hey, if they kill Trump, we might need you. | ||
| That kind of thing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like a really good basking in the valor of no stakes whatsoever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The zero of stakes that Vivek is dealing with is kind of astonishing. | ||
| It's pretty sweet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But in order to kill time before Roger gets there, Alex just is vamping. | ||
| Just talking. | ||
| Just talking. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| I mean, I'm scared to do anything wrong. | ||
| A, I want to be good because it feels good to be good. | ||
| It gets me closer to God. | ||
| I can feel myself by degrees any closer to God. | ||
| The more honest I am, the more courage I have, the stronger I am. | ||
| The more focused I am, the harder working I am, the more I sacrifice. | ||
| I just get happier. | ||
| I get smarter. | ||
| And any time I tell a lie, and I still do it sometimes, not on air. | ||
| I do not lie on air. | ||
| But we all lie. | ||
| I do it very rarely now. | ||
| And when I do, I feel like I've been brought down a couple levels. | ||
| What was like... | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's not sung. | ||
| Wow, I didn't even mean to tell that lie. | ||
| It's so much better when you're honest. | ||
| Like, so you really like that woman? | ||
| Think she's hot? | ||
| I'm like, yeah. | ||
| I mean, God made humans. | ||
| I'm attracted to women. | ||
| You're super attractive. | ||
| Way more attractive. | ||
| But I mean, she said, oh, no, I don't think she's attractive at all. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, she's hot. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
| Just stop lying, folks. | ||
| It's much easier. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Is this weird? | ||
| I don't believe, like, I don't think, okay, let me put it this way. | ||
| I think, I don't believe in zoo. | ||
| I think zoos are wrong. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, I truly, so, so it's weird, but if I were an alien, I would want Alex in a zoo! | ||
| Well, I mean, his show is kind of a cage. | ||
| It is! | ||
| That he's in and has to display these weird behaviors, especially when he forgets to book his guests. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And he has to fill this time. | ||
| Everything about it is zoo-worthy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It just needs to be in a zoo, you know, where it can't hurt anybody. | ||
| So, if your wife asks you if someone's hot, don't lie. | ||
| I don't even know what that means. | ||
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I don't either. | |
| I don't either. | ||
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Also, basically Alex is laying out like a Twix commercial. | |
| Chew it over with Twix. | ||
| Your wife asks you, is it woman hot? | ||
| And then the idea, well listen, I don't lie because it just lowers my energy level. | ||
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I mean, so that's what brain force is. | |
| It's like, oh, after I lie, I take a brain force to get back up to normal. | ||
| It allows you to lie. | ||
| It's a little bit like if Pinocchio just kept a little razor blade and just chopped it off. | ||
| Oh, that would be a good ad for something? | ||
| Pinocchio chopping his lie nose off every time he lies and get away with it? | ||
| I feel like it might be... | ||
| Two on the nose for Alex. | ||
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Nice. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, man. | ||
| Welcome back to the zoo. | ||
| You get older, you get more numb. | ||
| There's so much contact. | ||
| So much happens. | ||
| You get scarred. | ||
| You learn to shut things down. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| When you don't feel pain, it's easy to compartmentalize things and bad things that happen to be tough. | ||
| But I've learned to really just sit down and take in the pain. | ||
| I was doing that at 5 a.m. this morning, and I was really upset about some things in my family. | ||
| Loss and things like that. | ||
| So I got a cup of coffee and I sat in the chair in the dark and I just said, I want all the pain. | ||
| I just want to feel this pain right now. | ||
| I've got to pause it real quick. | ||
| Alec seems to sit in the dark in a chair a lot. | ||
| A lot of that. | ||
| It seems to be something he does a bit, which is worrying. | ||
| Melancholy, yeah. | ||
| It's worrying. | ||
| I'm going to just absorb it. | ||
| I just sat there. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| But I externalized it. | ||
| I took it into the consciousness. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| From the subconscious. | ||
| Is that the sound you make? | ||
| And it was like having my heart ripped out. | ||
| When I did that, it wiped it clean. | ||
| Like I threw it in the garbage. | ||
| But I had to fully say I want to feel every ounce of pain and every ounce of regret and every ounce of how some of it was my fault. | ||
| And God, I'm sorry. | ||
| Please help me be better. | ||
| I'm so sorry for things I did in the past when I didn't understand. | ||
| Please heal me. | ||
| Please help me. | ||
| Please. | ||
| And that's what a man is supposed to do. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Don't run away from your problems. | ||
| That's what a man is supposed to do. | ||
| Don't hide from the truth. | ||
| Don't hide from the pain. | ||
| Embrace the pain. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| It's not that I don't mind the pain. | ||
| I love the pain. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Because the pain is the truth. | ||
| The hurt is the truth. | ||
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And getting humble before God is the truth. | |
| And realizing my hair is all going to fall out. | ||
| My teeth are going to fall out. | ||
| And I'm going to be brought low because I'm not God. | ||
| But I was made by God. | ||
| And I'm experiencing God's plan. | ||
| And I am turning loose like a leaf thrown stream in God's plan. | ||
| And then God directs you through that river, through that stream, through that brook, where you're supposed to go. | ||
| And then the real adventure begins. | ||
| I always tell the crew, I want to know the worst. | ||
| I don't want stuff hidden from me. | ||
| Give it to me. | ||
| Because I can't defend innocence and freedom without really knowing how bad it is. | ||
| I'm going to go to break. | ||
| I want to thank you all for keeping us on air. | ||
| You've been amazing. | ||
| Plus, we've got products you really need. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Shipping is still going. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Turbo forced an hour of energy. | ||
| Everything about it! | ||
| The pain is the truth. | ||
| The zoo. | ||
| That is... | ||
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This guy needs to be under observation. | |
| That is just... | ||
| I would also suggest that maybe his system isn't working, of sitting in the dark and demanding to feel all the pain so it goes away, because he seems to be talking about things that he's already done that about in the past, and the pain seems to still be there. | ||
| Still lingering. | ||
| He claims that he's externalized this and all the pain goes away, but it clearly isn't working. | ||
| Yeah, it is interesting to hear a man lie about the things he's not doing, I think he did sit in the dark. | ||
| Yeah, well, for sure that. | ||
| And still not understand that he's failing at that. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And still not learn from it. | ||
| I would love to pick the brain of somebody who, you know, somebody who listened to that and is like, fuck, that's profound. | ||
| The pain is the truth. | ||
| The pain is the truth. | ||
| I would just love to, what is it like to be affected by something like that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Some hollow, nonsense, rambling, self-masturbatory speech. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it is, it is... | ||
| What would it be like to watch somebody, like, just over and over and over again try and give themselves a... | ||
| Right before the big game speech. | ||
| So often. | ||
| In the same way that, like, if you repeat a word too much... | ||
| And it mysteriously usually ends in sales pitch. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| But in the same way that if you repeat a word too much, it suddenly loses meaning. | ||
| Like, all of a sudden, after, like, six hours of inspiring pre-the-big-game speeches, it turns into, like, the bees are coming from right behind your butt, and that's where the sky is going to be inside your hair! | ||
| You know, like, yeah. | ||
| You go crazy. | ||
| The pain is the truth. | ||
| There is... | ||
| Yeah, there is that, like... | ||
| If you listen to a ton of them, you'd lose track of... | ||
| You'd be like, what? | ||
| But at the same time, you should have that experience listening to one if you're paying attention. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Anyway, he's killed enough time when Roger Stone shows up. | ||
| One clip here of Roger. | ||
| From the old Stone Zone? | ||
| Yeah, I think Alex wanted a little bit more worry from Roger, but he doesn't really care. | ||
| He thinks the Supreme Court's going to overturn this. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah. | ||
| But he also thinks some things may happen after. | ||
| This effort in Colorado will fall short as well. | ||
| I predict that the Supreme Court will reverse this decision. | ||
| And then once that is done, this gambit, which is largely the brainchild of Norm Eisen and the people at Crewe, will be over. | ||
| This will be a failed gambit. | ||
| What's next? | ||
| Could we have another pandemic? | ||
| Most definitely. | ||
| Could there be a terrorist attack on American interests on our own soil? | ||
| Given how many millions of illegals we have allowed into the country and our inability to track who they are and where they are, that's entirely possible. | ||
| Will it be real? | ||
| Will it be a false flag? | ||
| I suspect there'll be no way to know. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Not even after the fact. | ||
| People rally around a wartime president. | ||
| People rally around the president at a time that the country is... | ||
| I was about to back you up there. | ||
| Biden said two weeks ago, if you don't give us $106 million for Ukraine, your sons and daughters will be dying within months. | ||
| Then Lloyd Austin said it, then the Secretary of State said it, the members of the House and Senate, both bipartisan said it. | ||
| So they're holding a threat of direct war with Russia in our head. | ||
| I mean, that right there is so reckless. | ||
| Doesn't the establishment see their own actions or the threat? | ||
| Don't they see that they can just back off and stop this? | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| But this really is sort of an encapsulation of the way that Alex wanted to talk about the... | ||
| The ruling, which is, you know, what's next? | ||
| What are the globalists going to do? | ||
| And of course, this leads into the conversations about false flags and all this, because on a basic level, Alex understands that this is probably one of the most potent potential triggers of domestic terrorism. | ||
| That we've seen in this election season and the surrounding time. | ||
| The notion of Trump being barred from a ballot is something that would prompt violence from the extreme right wing. | ||
| He knows the possibility for that is high. | ||
| That's probably going to be the most interesting thing for me. | ||
| Eventually, this gets to the Supreme Court. | ||
| All that matters is that Trump can't be on enough to be president blank. | ||
| You know, it doesn't matter if he's not on everybody's ballot. | ||
| It just matters if there's enough. | ||
| But the odds of that happening are almost none. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not nil. | ||
| So what happens when it gets to the Supreme Court is going to be billionaires deciding who the next president is going to be. | ||
| And so the idea of the Supreme Court disallowing Trump from the ballot is like... | ||
| Chaos-inducing in a way that I don't know if anybody's prepared to deal with, right? | ||
| Because it's not the Democrats who got him out of the ballot. | ||
| Whatever the Supreme Court does is the de facto will of the oligarchs in this country, right? | ||
| That is an interpretation you can have, and I will not begrudge you for it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So if they disallow Trump, then that's a whole different ballgame, right? | ||
| Well, there are assumptions that you could make based on that decision, which I'm not sure how concrete you should take them. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm out of my pay grade trying to make those kinds of assumptions. | ||
| But I do think that just from a logistical standpoint, the vast percentage gamble is that they're going to overturn it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That is what seems to be like, if not, I'll be shocked. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if they do uphold it, then, first of all, Trump's chances of becoming president I don't think are that affected. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even Roger is like, I don't think Colorado is a state that I'm relying on for my calculus of the path to the presidency. | ||
| So, like, unless it spreads to all sorts of states that Trump would need to win, which is incredibly unlikely. | ||
| It doesn't really have an effect on Trump becoming president, but it has the feeling of limiting Trump's ability to become president, and that will leave people in a state, particularly a lot of the people who are all excited about the Stop the Steal stuff, they feel like they will be left with no legitimate avenue left in order to change the things that they feel need to be changed. | ||
| And I don't see a way that that doesn't lead to A very, well, it's not a guarantee of some sort of a bombing or whatever. | ||
| I think the odds of that, the danger of that, greatly increases. | ||
| And I think Alex understands that. | ||
| And I think that part of the discussion of what's going to happen next, what are the globalists going to do next, is that preemptive damage control, creating a narrative in advance, should there be some act of right-wing terrorism, in order to have that there and be like, oh, I said that this was going to happen, it's all fake. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If Trump is not allowed on the ballot and OKC happens, that's because of the globalist false flags. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| We're building that in advance. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What is interesting to me about that, though, is that this is going to come up to the Supreme Court, though, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, whatever decision the Supreme Court hands down is in no way related to the left, the Democrats, the center, the anything. | ||
| That is purely the oligarch's choice. | ||
| So I'm fascinated as to how that would be reacted to. | ||
| Would you bomb shit if you know that your guys said Trump is not going to be president? | ||
| Well, I mean, the right-wing media and folks like Alex would never let that perception be the... | ||
| The storyline. | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| They would have to scramble with, like, these patriotic heroes have decided the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| They'd have to try and sell it. | ||
| Or they're all blackmailed or something like that. | ||
| And that's the end, right? | ||
| If everybody decides, if it's more than just me that decides the Supreme Court is a joke, then the whole system falls apart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I do... | ||
| I think that your conclusion that if it's upheld, it is directly the result just of oligarchs deciding that it should be. | ||
| I'm not saying you're crazy for thinking that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm just saying that I don't think that that is a conclusion you can concretely reach. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that it is an option. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Although I do think another option is that the Supreme Court just is like... | ||
| Fuck, the implications of overturning this in terms of our, you know, states' rights positions, our interpretations previously of the Constitution can't allow us to overturn this. | ||
| I think that that is a possibility, too. | ||
| I think it's slim, but I think it's a possibility. | ||
| If I would say, if I was going to argue either of those positions, the weaker one would be they care about precedent. | ||
| Sure, that's fine. | ||
| But I'm just saying that arriving at the conclusion automatically is a little hasty. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But also understandable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But either way, I think it's interesting to see what'll play out. | ||
| Because even like the Colorado State court said, this is uncharted water. | ||
| We have no idea what's going to go on, yeah. | ||
| And I think that people's responses to it are also going to be fairly uncharted. | ||
| It'll be interesting. | ||
| Yeah, and that's why you see Alex doing preemptive damage control, which is smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, it's a bonanza for, you know, attention shit. | ||
| It's why you see Vivek acting the way he is. | ||
| You know, I think that Alex also makes something, a point that is... | ||
| Probably accurate, and that, like, this is going to help Trump. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Like, ultimately, you know, the notion that consequences exist, and they are a function of virtue, is, I think, pretty heavily adopted by the right wing. | ||
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| So, like, any kind of punishment that someone receives is only proof that they're dangerous to the system or something. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And that mentality is... | ||
| You know, bad, but growing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Sucks we had to stay in the present, but hey, here we are. | ||
| I really feel like everybody should take 2024 off and just, like, wake up next year because what the people who care about media and the... | ||
| The quote-unquote conversation are going to do over the next year. | ||
| It's going to be brutal. | ||
| It's going to be disgustingly brutal. | ||
| Let's all Rip Van Winkle this shit. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Let's just take a nap. | ||
| When we wake up, we'll look back at everybody's arguments and be like, hey, we could have gotten involved with that, but then we didn't, and now our lives are fine. | ||
| I mean, you know, it sucks because the stakes are so high. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
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But I just... | |
| Well, we'll wake you up in a year. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I think I'm going to start transitioning off Twitter. | ||
| Let's do the blue sky! | ||
| I think I may actually... | ||
| Let's delete the Twitter. | ||
| I've been sitting on the blue sky. | ||
| But I think I might actually make that profile. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
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We'll see. | |
| I don't want to say officially yet because I'm bad at social media and I don't really care about a lot of that stuff anyway. | ||
| But maybe we'll do that. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| Uh-oh, it's back. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |