Knowledge Fight - #878: March 29, 2004
Aired: 2023-12-18
Duration: 01:39:31


=== I Have a Quick Question (04:27) ===

[00:00:21]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:30]  And endure.
[00:00:30]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:32]  Need money.
[00:00:36]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:40]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:42]  Stop it.
[00:00:42]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:43]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:44]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:46]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:48]  I'm a huge fan.
[00:00:51]  I love your room.
[00:00:52]  Knowledge Fight.
[00:00:54]  Knowledge Fight dot com.
[00:00:57]  I love you.
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:02]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:07]  Oh, indeed we are.
[00:01:08]  Dan.
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:10]  I have a quick question for you.
[00:01:11]  What's your bright spot today, buddy?
[00:01:12]  You know, Jordan, sometimes these bright spots are whimsical.
[00:01:16]  Sometimes they're food.
[00:01:18]  Sometimes they're twilight.
[00:01:19]  You know, what are you going to do?
[00:01:21]  But sometimes they're a little bit basic, and I guess today's is a little basic, and that is I guess I'm just...
[00:01:29]  Bright spot is I'm alive, honestly.
[00:01:32]  That's my bright spot.
[00:01:34]  It's shit.
[00:01:36]  Times are shit.
[00:01:39]  You know, it...
[00:01:42]  We postponed our last or canceled our Friday episode of last week because I got a horrendous bout of food poisoning that has been described by those who have heard it vis-a-vis my dad as it sounds like the worst I've ever heard of.
[00:01:59]  It was real bad to the point where I thought I was going to die for sure.
[00:02:04]  Culprits have been identified by some people on social media.
[00:02:07]  Sure.
[00:02:08]  They are things like the Aldi cheese advent calendar.
[00:02:13]  That'll happen.
[00:02:13]  The Haribo.
[00:02:16]  These are suspects, and I would like to clear all of these of suspicion.
[00:02:20]  Sure.
[00:02:20]  The Haribo absolutely was not the contributing factor.
[00:02:23]  The cheese calendar.
[00:02:25]  If I'm being totally honest, I've fallen off on a little bit.
[00:02:29]  Sure.
[00:02:29]  So that was actually, I'm behind on that.
[00:02:31]  That's out of the running.
[00:02:32]  I don't believe it is.
[00:02:33]  I believe it was some bad hot dogs.
[00:02:36]  Well, that's not hard to imagine.
[00:02:39]  Yep.
[00:02:39]  Of all the things to imagine, yeah.
[00:02:41]  I got some Oscar Myers from the grocery store, and when I was eating them, I did think, these aren't good.
[00:02:51]  Yep.
[00:02:52]  I didn't think much of it, and I did throw away one.
[00:02:56]  That's good.
[00:02:57]  So, like, I didn't even finish all of it, but I did make note of, like, this is, something's wrong here.
[00:03:02]  And it turns out something was wrong.
[00:03:04]  Something was real wrong.
[00:03:05]  That is an interesting thing, because you are one thrown away hot dog from death.
[00:03:11]  That hot dog was...
[00:03:13]  That had your name written on it like a bullet in...
[00:03:15]  That might have been my polonium poisoning.
[00:03:17]  Full metal jacket right there, yeah.
[00:03:19]  It would have been done for.
[00:03:20]  But, yeah, I mean, this has been a real shit month as a whole in terms of some issues with shifting medications that is still ongoing in terms of depression and all that stuff.
[00:03:37]  That still remains unresolved.
[00:03:41]  A turbulent up and down throughout.
[00:03:44]  I had another medical issue that maybe we'll talk about at some point on air, but that was plaguing me and has been a bit.
[00:03:52]  No one needs to feel bad or anything.
[00:03:53]  It's fine.
[00:03:56]  Everything has been a pile of shit.
[00:04:00]  Towards the end of this year, I don't foresee 2024 being any better.
[00:04:04]  No, it's going to be great.
[00:04:05]  It's going to be great.
[00:04:05]  And then in the midst of all of this, we have Alex getting back on Twitter and all the shitheads rejoicing and Alex posting Endgame on Twitter.
[00:04:14]  It's like, oh, God.
[00:04:16]  I can't.
[00:04:17]  It's...
[00:04:17]  It's rough, but I'm alive, and we're here, so bright spot.
[00:04:22]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:04:23]  No, I mean, it's been really great to be helpless and watch you suffer.
[00:04:28]  That's fantastic.
[00:04:30]  I mean, you didn't have to watch.
[00:04:31]  I didn't livestream my throwing up at four in the morning.

=== End of the World Emotions (04:36) ===

[00:04:36]  No, I didn't have to watch.
[00:04:37]  I didn't have to watch, but I did spend a lot of time worrying.
[00:04:40]  Well, I'm sorry that you did, but I appreciate your concern.
[00:04:42]  No, no, no, this is about me, just in case you were wondering.
[00:04:45]  Sure.
[00:04:45]  Yeah.
[00:04:46]  Yeah.
[00:04:46]  I'm glad you're alive.
[00:04:48]  But...
[00:04:48]  It's about me.
[00:04:49]  Right.
[00:04:50]  Yeah.
[00:04:50]  I understand.
[00:04:51]  No, of course.
[00:04:51]  What's your bright spot?
[00:04:53]  I love you.
[00:04:55]  My bright spot, actually, is this new show, Carol and the End of the World, on Netflix.
[00:05:04]  It's another animated show.
[00:05:06]  It's one of the more pensive and, like...
[00:05:11]  It's emotionally affecting things that I've watched in a long time.
[00:05:15]  Okay.
[00:05:16]  It's very, it's not funny or, I mean, I don't know.
[00:05:20]  It is funny, but it's hard to describe beyond, like, occasionally I was genuinely weeping salt tears for, like, existential purposes.
[00:05:31]  Right.
[00:05:31]  You know, like, it is that kind of a show.
[00:05:33]  Is it a sequel?
[00:05:34]  Or a television version of Seeking a Friend for the End of the World.
[00:05:39]  No, no, no, no, no.
[00:05:40]  Not that Steve Carell movie.
[00:05:41]  No, it is not that.
[00:05:43]  Did that make you cry?
[00:05:44]  No, that didn't bother me at all.
[00:05:46]  No.
[00:05:46]  It's a melancholy in tone.
[00:05:48]  Sure.
[00:05:49]  I mean, I assume it has to do at the end of the world.
[00:05:51]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:05:52]  Obviously, there's a morose feel.
[00:05:54]  Right.
[00:05:54]  I mean, what's fascinating about it is that idea of the twin paths of the end of the world, you know?
[00:06:00]  Like, people going out and being like, well, we're all gonna die, so I'm gonna be fulfilled.
[00:06:05]  I'm gonna live my life to the fullest.
[00:06:07]  I'm gonna go flying.
[00:06:08]  And then there's tons of people who are like, this makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.
[00:06:12]  And what makes me feel comfortable is going to fucking work.
[00:06:16]  Well, but there's a third path, which is...
[00:06:19]  The Purge.
[00:06:20]  Sure, sure, sure.
[00:06:21]  Well, nobody's saying The Purge isn't available at any given point in time.
[00:06:24]  I assume that's in the show.
[00:06:26]  People purging?
[00:06:26]  I think there is some purging, yeah.
[00:06:29]  But yeah, it is a really interesting meditation on life condensed.
[00:06:35]  So yeah, I would recommend it.
[00:06:37]  Cool.
[00:06:38]  You're talking about online things.
[00:06:40]  Online things.
[00:06:41]  TV shows and stuff.
[00:06:42]  Sure.
[00:06:43]  I saw a trailer.
[00:06:44]  Uh-huh.
[00:06:45]  For the new Beverly Hills cop movie.
[00:06:49]  I'm sorry, what?
[00:06:50]  Right, I didn't realize this was happening.
[00:06:52]  Is that four or five now?
[00:06:53]  Is that five?
[00:06:54]  I think we're on five!
[00:06:55]  I'm not sure.
[00:06:56]  But I was like, man, who do they get to play Axel?
[00:07:00]  Because I thought you're going to hand down the role to somebody.
[00:07:03]  There's no way that Eddie Murphy's still going to play Axel.
[00:07:06]  The man's in his 60s.
[00:07:08]  I didn't think that.
[00:07:09]  I thought, wow, that would be a very interesting storyline that they're going to need to tell of this old cop, or whatever, going around putting bananas in tailpipes and shit.
[00:07:20]  When they revealed it was Eddie Murphy, I gasped.
[00:07:25]  I mean, he still looks great.
[00:07:26]  Sure.
[00:07:26]  No arguments there.
[00:07:27]  No arguments there.
[00:07:28]  No, not at all.
[00:07:29]  The man can still star in a movie, absolutely.
[00:07:31]  Yeah, yeah, don't get it twisted.
[00:07:33]  But it was still just such a surprise.
[00:07:35]  And that's how I knew that the fever was bad.
[00:07:37]  Yeah.
[00:07:38]  It was that moved by like, oh my god, it's Eddie Murphy.
[00:07:43]  And then when Judge Reinhold's in it.
[00:07:46]  I'm sorry, what?
[00:07:47]  He's still alive?
[00:07:48]  I believe so.
[00:07:48]  Oh, good for him.
[00:07:49]  Based on the trailer, I'm led to believe he's still alive.
[00:07:51]  40 to 60% confidence.
[00:07:53]  Kevin Bacon.
[00:07:54]  Kevin Bacon is still going.
[00:07:56]  He still works.
[00:07:57]  A lot.
[00:07:58]  Anyway, I will not see this.
[00:07:59]  Don't care.
[00:08:00]  Yep.
[00:08:01]  Nope.
[00:08:02]  But I was shocked.
[00:08:03]  Yeah.
[00:08:04]  I imagine we'll all probably feel the same whenever Martin Lawrence shows up in Bad Boys 6. Something like that.
[00:08:11]  And Will Smith.
[00:08:12]  You have to.
[00:08:14]  Well, I don't know if Bad Boys 6 is going to be able to get Will Smith at that point.
[00:08:18]  He'll come back.
[00:08:20]  Probably.
[00:08:20]  He's that kind of guy.
[00:08:22]  He might not do five, but he'll do six.
[00:08:25]  Yeah, like a Vin Diesel.
[00:08:26]  For sure.
[00:08:27]  Not doing Fast and Furious 2. Bad Boys Tokyo Drift.
[00:08:31]  Vin Diesel was in that one.
[00:08:33]  He was?
[00:08:34]  He was in the end credits scene.
[00:08:35]  Oh, that's right.
[00:08:36]  That's right.
[00:08:37]  When he pulls up to Bow Wow.
[00:08:38]  When he was Nick Fury-ing as Marvel.
[00:08:41]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:41]  But he didn't want to do two because he didn't do sequels.
[00:08:44]  No.
[00:08:46]  Oh, how that has come around.
[00:08:48]  It was too big.
[00:08:48]  Too big for sequels.
[00:08:49]  Too big, man.
[00:08:51]  Oh, boy.
[00:08:52]  Good times.
[00:08:52]  Anyway, Jordan, we have an episode to do today.

=== Policy Wonk Introduction (04:38) ===

[00:08:55]  Right.
[00:08:55]  And I honestly, between the exasperation and the difficulties and the fact that we had, you know, our last couple episodes were eight hours of present day Monstrosity.
[00:09:09]  It does feel like we're losing, yes.
[00:09:10]  I decided we're going back to the past.
[00:09:12]  Good call.
[00:09:13]  So today we're going to be talking about March 29th, 2004.
[00:09:15]  And I do think that there is such better content in the past.
[00:09:21]  Yeah.
[00:09:21]  And I have a theory about it, and we'll work through this as we go along.
[00:09:25]  But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
[00:09:28]  Ooh, that's a great idea.
[00:09:28]  So first, Crispy Biscuit, a.k.a.
[00:09:31]  Hairless Alex Jones, gives off big loser little titty baby energy.
[00:09:34]  Thank you so much.
[00:09:35]  You're on HowPolicyWonk.
[00:09:36]  I'm a policy wonk!
[00:09:37]  Thank you very much!
[00:09:38]  Thank you!
[00:09:38]  Next, I listened to a lot of knowledge fight while traveling in Spain, and now Alex's panicked yelping will always remind me of Ibiza.
[00:09:45]  Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
[00:09:46]  I'm a policy wonk!
[00:09:47]  Thank you very much!
[00:09:48]  I thought Ibiza was the island in Greece.
[00:09:51]  Isn't it Ibiza?
[00:09:53]  Isn't that a party island?
[00:09:55]  Uh...
[00:09:56]  Wait, do you mean...
[00:09:58]  Ibiza.
[00:09:59]  Do you think Ibiza and Ibiza are different places?
[00:10:01]  I think they are.
[00:10:02]  I thought they were.
[00:10:03]  No.
[00:10:04]  I thought it was a fancy pronunciation of Ibiza.
[00:10:06]  Wait, wait, what?
[00:10:08]  Now I'm so confused.
[00:10:09]  Yeah, me too.
[00:10:10]  All right.
[00:10:10]  Next, Alex's shitty Great Reset book indirectly got me to finally go back to therapy.
[00:10:15]  Thank you so much.
[00:10:16]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:10:17]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:10:18]  Thank you very much!
[00:10:19]  Best outcome ever of that book.
[00:10:20]  Yeah, it doesn't get better than that.
[00:10:22]  Next, Reverend Xander Lovecraft.
[00:10:24]  Thank you so much.
[00:10:24]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:10:25]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:10:26]  Thank you very much.
[00:10:27]  And Chodel Foster, thank you so much.
[00:10:29]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:10:30]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:10:31]  Thank you very much!
[00:10:32]  Thank you.
[00:10:32]  And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
[00:10:34]  So thank you so much to Happy Birthday Angela from Popcorn Butter Butt.
[00:10:39]  My bright spot today is you as an individual, a mother, a partner, and dadass.
[00:10:43]  Her birthday is in early November.
[00:10:45]  Oops.
[00:10:45]  Thank you so much.
[00:10:46]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:10:47]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:10:50]  Go honk to your mouth and tell her you're brilliant.
[00:10:52]  Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
[00:10:54]  Daddy Shark.
[00:10:56]  Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
[00:11:01]  He's a loser little titty baby.
[00:11:04]  I don't want to hate black people.
[00:11:06]  I renounce Jesus Christ.
[00:11:07]  I looked it up.
[00:11:09]  Ibiza is a pronunciation that British people usually use for Ibiza.
[00:11:14]  Right.
[00:11:14]  Which is an island in the Mediterranean.
[00:11:17]  Which is not...
[00:11:18]  You know what?
[00:11:20]  I really thought Ibiza was in a different place.
[00:11:25]  That's what's going on here.
[00:11:26]  For some reason, I thought it was, you know, maybe it's just because I knew it as a Mediterranean island, and I just assume everything Mediterranean is around Greece.
[00:11:34]  It's around Greece.
[00:11:35]  It's greasy.
[00:11:36]  No, it is way over there by Spain.
[00:11:38]  Way over on the west side near Spain.
[00:11:41]  Not too far from, like, Mallorca and stuff.
[00:11:43]  It's near Parma.
[00:11:45]  Or Palma.
[00:11:46]  Palma.
[00:11:47]  Excuse me.
[00:11:47]  Yeah.
[00:11:48]  So yeah, that's my bad.
[00:11:50]  All this time.
[00:11:51]  All this time.
[00:11:53]  I've been aware of it as a house music capital of the world.
[00:11:56]  Right.
[00:11:56]  I thought it was over there, maybe by Eos and Noxos.
[00:12:02]  Now, let's see.
[00:12:03]  What are we talking about?
[00:12:05]  I think...
[00:12:06]  I think the first time I encountered Ibiza was on LCD Sound Systems Losing My Edge.
[00:12:11]  That was the first time that somebody had pronounced it like that, and I got so confused.
[00:12:16]  Yeah.
[00:12:16]  Because I kept seeing it with the Z, and he pronounced it Ibiza.
[00:12:21]  Yeah.
[00:12:22]  See, I associate it.
[00:12:24]  I'm not sure.
[00:12:25]  Isn't that to do with the...
[00:12:27]  Wait, I thought it had to do with, like, Catalan...
[00:12:30]  Never mind.
[00:12:31]  What are we doing?
[00:12:32]  I'm not sure.
[00:12:32]  What is happening?
[00:12:33]  What is happening right now?
[00:12:33]  I knew the name, or I knew of Abizo because of...
[00:12:38]  My buddy Dr. Gums and I used to smoke a lot of weed, and he liked these CDs, Cafe Del Mar.
[00:12:48]  Right, right, right.
[00:12:50]  Collections of sort of moody house music and shit.
[00:12:54]  And it was just like, oh man, we get so high and think about being in Ibiza.
[00:13:01]  One day.
[00:13:02]  We'll do a live show at Cafe Del Mar.
[00:13:04]  That's what we're going to do.
[00:13:05]  That would be fun!
[00:13:05]  I bet we could pull off a...
[00:13:07]  Fuck yeah.
[00:13:08]  No, I don't think we could do it.
[00:13:10]  If somebody...
[00:13:10]  Oh, man, I bet we could pull it off.
[00:13:13]  I doubt it.
[00:13:14]  I agree.
[00:13:14]  So, Jordan, today we get this episode to go over, but first, here is an out-of-context drop from today's show.

=== Reading The Declaration (02:24) ===

[00:13:20]  That's it.
[00:13:21]  I'm reading the Declaration of Independence next hour.
[00:13:23]  That's it.
[00:13:25]  Wait, for the first time?
[00:13:27]  No, just on air.
[00:13:28]  He's going to commit a thought crime.
[00:13:30]  How...
[00:13:31]  How long does he make it through?
[00:13:32]  He doesn't do it at all.
[00:13:34]  Oh, come on!
[00:13:35]  No, actually, he reads a couple of amendments.
[00:13:39]  To the Declaration of Independence?
[00:13:41]  Yeah, he reads the Bill of Rights.
[00:13:44]  The Bill of Rights to the Declaration of Independence?
[00:13:47]  Yeah.
[00:13:49]  But I do like it as a pronouncement.
[00:13:52]  That's it!
[00:13:53]  That's it!
[00:13:54]  I'm doing it!
[00:13:55]  I've had enough.
[00:13:56]  Gotta read the Declaration.
[00:13:57]  I like that as a comforting thing.
[00:14:00]  You know what, guys?
[00:14:01]  I just gotta go, and I gotta read the Declaration for a while, and then I'll be back and I'll be ready to go.
[00:14:06]  Gotta do some self-care.
[00:14:07]  Yep.
[00:14:07]  Reading the Declaration of Independence out loud.
[00:14:10]  So, we start off, and Alex has a big news story that will go the entirety of the show.
[00:14:17]  I want to cover this, and I want to take your calls on this subject, and I want you to call in on...
[00:14:23]  This issue, you're welcome to talk about other stuff once you've talked about this, but I rarely say, hey, we're going to talk about this, but I really think we should.
[00:14:33]  And again, it's posted right now on Infowars.com.
[00:14:38]  We just have the news article itself out of News 6 of the big TV station there in New Orleans on PrisonPlanet.com, but at Infowars.com we have some of my commentary added to the top of the story.
[00:14:51]  And some links to some key documents after it.
[00:14:55]  So I think you need to go get that story and email it out to everybody you know, local talk show host, local constabulary.
[00:15:04]  Because it's a big, big deal.
[00:15:09]  Court opens door to searches without warrants.
[00:15:12]  That's the headline.
[00:15:15]  Dissenting judge calls ruling or dissenting judges.
[00:15:20]  Paul ruling the road to hell.
[00:15:24]  I don't know.
[00:15:25]  The Soviet Union was a wonderland.
[00:15:27]  I mean, why is he saying that?

=== Violent Felons and Citizenship Loss (14:21) ===

[00:15:28]  Maybe he's anti-government.
[00:15:29]  Oh, damn.
[00:15:29]  So I understand where Alex is coming from, and maybe on a general philosophical level, I can agree with him, but he's repeatedly endorsed stop-and-frisk policing in places like New York, so maybe you can just calm down a little bit with this.
[00:15:41]  This sanctity bullshit.
[00:15:42]  He's on one.
[00:15:44]  So the situation here is about a case out of Louisiana that was recently decided in the Fifth Circuit of Appeals.
[00:15:50]  I'll give you the basic details because it's a little bit messy.
[00:15:53]  There was this guy named Kelly Gould who was a known violent felon.
[00:15:56]  A guy who knew him called the police and warned them that Gould was planning on killing two local judges.
[00:16:02]  And naturally, the police acted on that tip and decided, let's go have a little chat with this guy.
[00:16:07]  Sure.
[00:16:07]  They arrived at the trailer where Gould lived.
[00:16:10]  Sure.
[00:16:11]  Right.
[00:16:17]  The officers looked in the bedroom, they didn't see him, and part of making sure he wasn't setting up an ambush was to look around under the bed, check the closets which are open, Sure.
[00:16:26]  In the bedroom.
[00:16:27]  When they did so, they found a bunch of guns, which Gould was not allowed to be in possession of, because he is a violent felon.
[00:16:33]  On account of the violent felonies.
[00:16:34]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:35]  So Gould had managed to get out of the trailer, but police found him hiding in the woods nearby pretty quick, at which point he was arrested and consented to a search of his living space.
[00:16:44]  Sure.
[00:16:45]  Now here's what's at issue with this case.
[00:16:47]  Did the officers have the right to search those closets, which is to say, was that an appropriate part of doing a protective sweep of the premises?
[00:16:55]  Gould's lawyers argued that they did not, and they sought to suppress the discovery of the guns as being any evidence that could be used against Gould.
[00:17:02]  And the district court agreed.
[00:17:04]  But, on appeal, the Fifth Circuit Court overturned that decision, finding that this kind of protective sweep is appropriate in the context that the officers were in, where failing to do so could have put them in serious danger.
[00:17:15]  The issue was an uncertainty about protective sweeps left hanging after a previous case, Maryland v. Bowie.
[00:17:23]  That case established that protective sweeps were fine for police to do in the context of an arrest, but it didn't specify that they had to only be incident to an arrest.
[00:17:32]  That was a potential understanding of the ruling, which was the basis for Gould's lawyer's challenge.
[00:17:37]  Ultimately, the Fifth Circuit decided that protective sweeps did not have to only be done after or in the context of an arrest, but could be done under other very limited circumstances.
[00:17:48]  This is not a draconian step towards the police state, but Alex is presenting it that way because...
[00:17:53]  It involves guns.
[00:17:54]  And that'll sort of become clear as we go on.
[00:17:56]  I was gonna say, yeah, I feel like, again, the real problem here is this is involving a lot of guns.
[00:18:02]  That's the major issue.
[00:18:04]  It will be teased out eventually that there are a lot of feelings about guns that are sort of part of this.
[00:18:10]  Sure.
[00:18:10]  No, I respect the need for whatever the law, you know, that's their job.
[00:18:16]  They'll get into it.
[00:18:18]  But for me, I feel like the bigger problem here is that guy shouldn't have had all those guns.
[00:18:22]  I think, you know, assuming that the information was correct, he probably shouldn't have threatened to kill judges.
[00:18:30]  That's a bad idea, too!
[00:18:31]  Yeah, it's usually someone's going to hear you and tell the police about it.
[00:18:35]  And then also, yeah, if you're a felon, you're running a real risk.
[00:18:39]  I mean, I understand it's important for the protective sweep.
[00:18:44]  Details.
[00:18:45]  Happy for people to work that out.
[00:18:47]  We gotta work on the guns first, though.
[00:18:49]  I feel like the guns are important.
[00:18:50]  So this, also, there's one, there were two judges who dissented, but there was one that wrote a dissenting opinion.
[00:18:57]  Sure.
[00:18:58]  And so this is being attributed to multiple judges said that this was the road to hell.
[00:19:02]  Right.
[00:19:02]  Now, the article as it exists says...
[00:19:05]  It doesn't say that.
[00:19:07]  Okay.
[00:19:07]  But it does say that, quote, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
[00:19:11]  Okay.
[00:19:11]  Was something that one of the judges said.
[00:19:13]  Right.
[00:19:13]  Now, this article has actually been edited since the time that Alex covered it.
[00:19:19]  Okay.
[00:19:19]  So Alex is actually covering it correctly that the article said that two judges said that this was, quote, the road to hell.
[00:19:25]  Right.
[00:19:26]  But they didn't.
[00:19:27]  They didn't really.
[00:19:28]  Right.
[00:19:28]  It was out of context.
[00:19:30]  Sure.
[00:19:30]  So the article was updated, but Alex is not wrong.
[00:19:34]  Right.
[00:19:34]  He's just wrong.
[00:19:35]  Technically speaking, if you do write, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
[00:19:41]  You could be said as to have said, this is the road to hell.
[00:19:45]  No, and there's another thing that we'll get to later that they do say in the dissenting opinion that you can construe in a certain way very loosely to say that this is the road to hell.
[00:19:57]  Sure.
[00:19:57]  So what they did is they were a little loose with their quotations.
[00:20:00]  Sure.
[00:20:00]  And then edited it because of their comments.
[00:20:02]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:03]  I get it.
[00:20:03]  No, that's not right.
[00:20:04]  I get it.
[00:20:05]  So, one of the things that I'm talking about here with the reason that the past is so much better on Alex's show is this is a real thing.
[00:20:13]  Yes.
[00:20:13]  You know, like, the stuff that Alex talks about now is just, like, who knows what you're fucking talking about.
[00:20:20]  Yeah.
[00:20:20]  It's so disconnected from reality.
[00:20:22]  It's like, most of it's from a meme he saw somewhere.
[00:20:26]  Yeah.
[00:20:26]  Or a vision he had and all this nonsense.
[00:20:29]  Yeah.
[00:20:29]  This is a real-world issue.
[00:20:32]  This is a person.
[00:20:33]  Who got arrested for these guns, and there is an open question as to whether the police's sweep was protected by the, you know, or against the Fourth Amendment or not.
[00:20:45]  Sure, that's interesting!
[00:20:46]  Exactly!
[00:20:47]  Yeah!
[00:20:47]  There is a potential for real conversation about something here, as opposed to, like...
[00:20:52]  It's a fucking dead end in the present.
[00:20:54]  No, no, no, no.
[00:20:55]  Vaccines are made of Jesus' hatred for you because you worship the devil.
[00:21:00]  Of course that makes perfect sense.
[00:21:01]  And they're giving it to you because you're white and they want to kill you.
[00:21:03]  Yes, obviously!
[00:21:05]  Duh!
[00:21:06]  All right.
[00:21:07]  Fine.
[00:21:07]  Yeah, let's get into it.
[00:21:09]  What does the Fourth Amendment say about that?
[00:21:11]  They can't search my blood.
[00:21:14]  That's an interesting question.
[00:21:15]  So Alex has his own commentary that he has added to this article.
[00:21:20]  Good.
[00:21:20]  And I put the comment in here.
[00:21:22]  The Fifth Circuit ruling is criminal, similar to Supreme Court rulings of the past declaring black people slaves.
[00:21:28]  It is a total violation of the Bill of Rights and is null and void.
[00:21:33]  The U.S. Congress and Legislature of Louisiana should call an emergency session to investigate possible criminal charges of sedition against those ruling.
[00:21:44]  To eradicate the Fourth Amendment.
[00:21:45]  We'll come back, get into the article, and take your call.
[00:21:47]  Stay with us.
[00:21:48]  It's tough talk.
[00:21:49]  Yeah.
[00:21:49]  Obviously stupid.
[00:21:50]  The Fifth Circuit Court decision has painstaking discussion about the Fourth Amendment concerns in it, which is part of why it was never overturned by the Supreme Court.
[00:21:59]  It's very much in line with the Constitution.
[00:22:01]  Alex is just zealot on gun issues, particularly when he can masquerade them as illegal search-type privacy issues.
[00:22:07]  Also, I'm not sure if Alex actually doesn't know this, but the Supreme Court didn't just rule one day that black people were to be enslaved.
[00:22:14]  Slavery in the US predates the Constitution.
[00:22:17]  There were court decisions that upheld slavery along the way, like the Dred Scott case, but I worry about Alex's grasp on history a little bit when he says stuff like that.
[00:22:25]  Whether he knows what he's talking about or not, the important thing to keep in mind is that Alex is just trying to create the image that one day the court came along and took black people's freedom away.
[00:22:33]  And that's exactly what's happening now, because this Fifth Circuit court's decision about protective sweeps.
[00:22:39]  It's dumb, but it's emotionally resonant and gives undue weight to the narrative that he's selling today.
[00:22:44]  Yeah, I mean, you don't want to find out that all of your raise yourself up by your bootstraps talk doesn't make any sense whenever the entirety of your country is based upon slave labor.
[00:22:54]  You know, from its birth to now.
[00:22:57]  Before birth.
[00:22:58]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:23:00]  Colonial times.
[00:23:01]  Makes you feel like you're not the person who raised yourself up by your bootstrap so much.
[00:23:05]  Maybe you didn't build that business.
[00:23:07]  Maybe you didn't build shit!
[00:23:08]  So, uh, man, this made me feel worried.
[00:23:17]  Possession is nine-tenths of a law.
[00:23:24]  Poltergeist.
[00:23:24]  The globalists are not following any law, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the Magna Carta, the Ten Commandments.
[00:23:31]  They're not following any of America's laws we were founded on.
[00:23:35]  I'm sorry, what?
[00:23:36]  No, they're simply following the law of pirates as they pull alongside each other in their kangaroo international courts, ailing their fellow pirates.
[00:23:46]  I mean, mateys, how many skulls in your hole?
[00:23:50]  That's how the pirates would hail each other.
[00:23:52]  How many slaves have you fed on?
[00:23:54]  How many loose fish have you brought upon your decks?
[00:23:59]  And we, my friends, are the fish.
[00:24:01]  Ahoy, Klaus Schwab.
[00:24:03]  Wait, what?
[00:24:04]  I do not understand this metaphor whatsoever.
[00:24:07]  So the globalists are pirates and we're the fish.
[00:24:11]  Right.
[00:24:13]  I don't understand your confusion.
[00:24:15]  It's crystal clear.
[00:24:16]  But pirates don't...
[00:24:18]  Were pirates just fish?
[00:24:20]  Yeah, they're just fishermen.
[00:24:22]  Okay, fine.
[00:24:23]  But they stole the fish.
[00:24:24]  Back at Tartuga.
[00:24:26]  I gotcha.
[00:24:28]  So, does Alex actually think that possession is nine tenths of the law?
[00:24:31]  Does he think that we're based on the Magna Carta?
[00:24:34]  Well, there are some elements that, like, are similar.
[00:24:37]  Well, English common law, sure.
[00:24:39]  Yeah, I mean, there are things that you can trace.
[00:24:42]  Right, right.
[00:24:44]  Ideas and things, yeah.
[00:24:46]  Was Honor Thy Father and Mother, though?
[00:24:49]  Is that one that America was based on?
[00:24:52]  The Ten Commandments?
[00:24:53]  Yeah.
[00:24:53]  Yeah, that's a lot.
[00:24:57]  It's deep in jurisprudence.
[00:24:59]  Oh, yeah.
[00:25:01]  I'm pretty glad we don't do the blasphemy laws anymore.
[00:25:04]  That's nice.
[00:25:05]  Is possession nine-tenths of the law, is that in the Magna Carta?
[00:25:08]  I thought it was just a bumper sticker.
[00:25:09]  I don't know.
[00:25:10]  It's just some nonsense that idiots tell you when they want to steal things from you.
[00:25:14]  This is my problem!
[00:25:15]  I don't know who said that.
[00:25:17]  I don't know why they said it, other than people say it whenever they're stealing shit.
[00:25:21]  Yeah, they just, like, take something from you, and they're like, that's mine.
[00:25:27]  What's a tenth of a law?
[00:25:28]  This is so stupid.
[00:25:30]  I get that.
[00:25:30]  Just say colonialism is fine, because I have a gun and you don't.
[00:25:35]  Well, that's why you gotta be worried about people taking your guns.
[00:25:37]  See?
[00:25:38]  Now, I would ask a second question.
[00:25:40]  What's that?
[00:25:40]  If possession is nine-tenths of the law, and globalists aren't following any law, what does possession matter?
[00:25:48]  Ah, boy.
[00:25:50]  It's a riddle.
[00:25:51]  Yeah.
[00:25:52]  Well, I mean, they're pirates, so what do the fish matter?
[00:25:56]  And we're the fish.
[00:25:57]  They're nutritious.
[00:25:58]  Okay.
[00:25:59]  Are they going to eat us?
[00:26:00]  I think so.
[00:26:01]  Okay.
[00:26:01]  So, but before they do, they just want to make us all criminals.
[00:26:05]  They want to criminalize all of us.
[00:26:07]  Wait, all the pirates want to make us criminals?
[00:26:09]  Right.
[00:26:11]  It is a little sick.
[00:26:12]  Well, you gotta step out of the metaphor.
[00:26:17]  Sorry, sorry.
[00:26:17]  No longer pirates.
[00:26:18]  I was trapped.
[00:26:19]  I was trapped.
[00:26:19]  They laugh at us.
[00:26:21]  It's a big, fat joke.
[00:26:22]  And bureaucrats, from the lowliest to the greatest, are all setting up their own empires.
[00:26:28]  They've been given free reign to expand the police state and the despotism of taxation and regulation.
[00:26:35]  They are making us all criminals.
[00:26:38]  And by doing that, they then...
[00:26:41]  Strip us of our inalienable rights, our citizenship, our sovereignty, and declare us bounty that they can literally feed upon.
[00:26:54]  That's what's happening right now.
[00:26:56]  Like fish.
[00:26:56]  That's what's happening.
[00:26:57]  So threats can be taken away.
[00:26:59]  They're not inalienable.
[00:27:00]  Small squabble.
[00:27:01]  But Alex is a dick, so I thought I'd throw it in there.
[00:27:03]  Yeah.
[00:27:04]  More to the point, though, what crimes is Alex talking about the globalists charging us with where we would lose our citizenship?
[00:27:09]  That's some serious shit.
[00:27:10]  Yeah.
[00:27:11]  If you're a naturalized citizen, meaning you weren't born here, there are a number of ways you can be denaturalized and be stripped of your citizenship, like if you became a citizen by committing immigration fraud or if it's found out that you're, like, funding terrorist groups.
[00:27:23]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:27:24]  However, if you're a citizen by birth, you can only lose that citizenship against your will by committing a very small selection of crimes.
[00:27:32]  Yeah.
[00:27:32]  You could attempt to overthrow the government in an act of treason.
[00:27:35]  Sure.
[00:27:36]  Alex's buddies got charged with something pretty similar to that, and they didn't lose their citizenship.
[00:27:39]  You actually can't lose your citizenship from that.
[00:27:41]  We know.
[00:27:42]  Well, that was a conspiracy to commit seditious acts, not necessarily treason, so maybe it's a little bit of...
[00:27:47]  Sure.
[00:27:48]  So maybe you have to do something an order of magnitude greater than January 6th.
[00:27:52]  Right.
[00:27:53]  Another option is to join the military of a country that's hostile to the United States.
[00:27:58]  Yeah, that'll do it.
[00:27:58]  But in many ways, that's less a crime and more of a choice on your part, so that's not really losing your citizenship against your will.
[00:28:05]  It's honestly pretty much just treason.
[00:28:07]  Yeah, I mean, I feel like you don't really need to worry about losing your citizenship because you're probably going to die.
[00:28:13]  But if you live, I can't imagine you'd be like, eh, I'll just go back home.
[00:28:18]  Right.
[00:28:18]  Eh, it doesn't seem like you're going to have a good time.
[00:28:20]  Yeah.
[00:28:21]  And I'm pretty sure that a circuit court just made a decision that allows protective sweeps in very narrow circumstances, but if you're Alex, it's like, this is the end of the Republic shit, man.
[00:28:30]  Everything has to be that level because he is dramatic.
[00:28:34]  Yeah.
[00:28:35]  Yeah, that's interesting.
[00:28:36]  I really have never thought about what you could do to lose your citizenship beyond...
[00:28:41]  Very little.
[00:28:41]  I mean, it is literally like, I get it.
[00:28:43]  If you try to end the country, you can't be a citizen of the country.
[00:28:48]  That makes sense, right?
[00:28:50]  It's that simple.
[00:28:51]  Yeah, but there's a bunch of things you can do voluntarily.
[00:28:54]  Sure, sure.
[00:28:55]  But in terms of crimes you commit, it's pretty much just treason.
[00:29:00]  Yeah, I can expat.
[00:29:02]  You don't need to lose your citizenship.
[00:29:05]  Yeah, you can keep it, and you can just leave.
[00:29:07]  Yeah.
[00:29:08]  You don't have to try and kill everybody first.
[00:29:10]  There are other things, too, though.
[00:29:12]  If you go to another country and try and run for office there, then you probably will lose your citizenship.
[00:29:18]  Really?
[00:29:18]  Yeah.
[00:29:19]  That's interesting.
[00:29:19]  That's a choice.
[00:29:20]  So you can't be a citizen of the United States and president of Spain?
[00:29:25]  No.
[00:29:26]  Okay.
[00:29:26]  Gotcha.
[00:29:26]  No, I think that would be a problem.
[00:29:29]  So, Alex, he's going on about this search and seizure type article in this narrative, and it turns out we figure out where this all came from.

=== Time and Place for Depth (11:58) ===

[00:29:42]  And Saturday, I went online, and they're on the Drudge Report, and it's now on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
[00:29:50]  I saw this headline.
[00:29:52]  Court opens the door to searches without warrants.
[00:29:57]  This is from the New Orleans News Channel 6. New Orleans, quote, it's a groundbreaking court decision that legal experts say will affect everyone.
[00:30:10]  Police officers in Louisiana no longer need a search or arrest warrant to conduct a brief search of your home or business.
[00:30:19]  Period.
[00:30:20]  So Alex likes to pretend that he's out there doing all this deep research and he knows the...
[00:30:24]  White papers and court decisions and all this stuff, but you saw a headline in the Drudge Report.
[00:30:29]  Now he's riffing about it.
[00:30:30]  Yeah.
[00:30:31]  Like, honestly, there's a part of me that's like, this show should just be, it should market itself like, do you like the Drudge Report but feel like you want more yelling?
[00:30:39]  Right.
[00:30:39]  It's just like an after show for the Drudge Report.
[00:30:42]  Yeah.
[00:30:43]  That's, yeah, talking Drudge.
[00:30:44]  Yeah.
[00:30:45]  You know, if he had started with Chris Hardwick, we would be in a completely different world right now.
[00:30:51]  And The Walking Dead would still be going on, I assume.
[00:30:54]  I don't feel like Chris Hardwick has the yelling potential.
[00:30:57]  Sure, but that's why you got Alex.
[00:30:58]  It's Alex and Chris doing a talking drudge show.
[00:31:04]  I feel like it would...
[00:31:06]  I don't know.
[00:31:07]  You don't think the Nerdist is going to pick that one up in 2004?
[00:31:11]  I don't see it...
[00:31:13]  Nah.
[00:31:14]  I just don't see the market.
[00:31:17]  I'm gonna have to pass.
[00:31:18]  Fair enough.
[00:31:19]  Fair enough.
[00:31:20]  But still, there's such a grandiosity to Alex's show, and I have visions, and maybe he's not going that hard on that in 2004 and stuff, but he's still pretty full of himself.
[00:31:31]  Sure.
[00:31:31]  And at the end of the day, this entire show is just him rambling about a headline he saw in the Drudge Report that he looked...
[00:31:38]  Into no deeper than the headline.
[00:31:40]  No, he might as well be one of those Twitch people doing a live stream of him just looking and scrolling through Drudge and just reading shit to people.
[00:31:49]  But so much more self-important.
[00:31:52]  Some of those Twitch people are pretty fucking self-important.
[00:31:54]  You're out of your mind.
[00:31:55]  Those people are nuts.
[00:31:56]  Yeah, but still, there's something more about Alex.
[00:32:01]  Yeah, you're not wrong.
[00:32:01]  It's a different cat.
[00:32:03]  Yeah, type of cat.
[00:32:05]  So Alex lies about this, and I say lie because I assume ill will, but the reality is he probably just doesn't know anything about this.
[00:32:15]  In the ruling, the police searched a house without a warrant, and the federal court says, yeah, those are no longer needed.
[00:32:24]  And it doesn't just affect the Louisiana, it affects the entire country.
[00:32:28]  The court absolutely didn't say anything close to this, and the only explanation possible here is that Alex didn't read a single thing about this ruling, or he's just lying to it willingly to the audience.
[00:32:37]  Alex is also either wrong or lying about this ruling applying broadly across the United States.
[00:32:42]  It absolutely does not.
[00:32:43]  It's only really relevant in Louisiana.
[00:32:46]  It's a ruling that could be binding upon lower courts within the Fifth Circuit, which would then include Texas and Mississippi, but it has no control outside of that region.
[00:32:55]  Unless the matter is taken up by the Supreme Court, It exists as a case that could be persuasive to other courts, but that alone doesn't make it the law.
[00:33:04]  Right.
[00:33:05]  In less than 20 seconds, Alex just told the audience two things that were either complete lies or things that he got entirely wrong.
[00:33:11]  He's a very bad source of information.
[00:33:14]  I can't even imagine relying on this guy for truth.
[00:33:17]  Yeah.
[00:33:18]  Hmm.
[00:33:19]  You know, that's interesting to me now, mainly because the more I think about Alex in the legal system...
[00:33:26]  The more I want Kafka to come back to life and really try and restart all of his shit, but with Alex as his main character.
[00:33:35]  I want to see what Kafka's take on Alex trying to navigate life would be.
[00:33:38]  There's this Joneska-esque.
[00:33:39]  It would be absolutely...
[00:33:41]  I would be interesting.
[00:33:42]  It would be way more interesting than this.
[00:33:44]  Whatever real life has done with Alex.
[00:33:46]  I mean...
[00:33:48]  There is a surreality to the path that he's gone on from these early days where there's a groundedness to what he's saying to the present where it's like...
[00:33:59]  You're a fucking prophet that, you know, is an essential part of a, like, world religion.
[00:34:05]  He's inserted himself as a major figure in the history of Christianity.
[00:34:09]  Yes, that is true.
[00:34:10]  It's bizarre.
[00:34:11]  That is true.
[00:34:11]  Yeah.
[00:34:11]  I believe he's overtaken Joan of Arc in his mind.
[00:34:14]  By far.
[00:34:15]  By a wide, but, well, she is, uh...
[00:34:17]  He's coming up on Paul.
[00:34:19]  He's trying.
[00:34:21]  He's nipping at Paul's heels.
[00:34:22]  And Paul created the fucking church.
[00:34:24]  He's headed to Tarsus next, and then he's going to make a journey.
[00:34:28]  It's pretty absurd, the lunatic direction that this is all gone.
[00:34:33]  When you really take a step back from it and like...
[00:34:37]  It's easy to get caught up, and you should be caught up, I believe, in the reality of the damage and the harm that the present-day stuff does to people, especially people in vulnerable communities.
[00:34:49]  But take a step back from it and look at the absurd trajectory, and it's something that merits study if we survive.
[00:35:00]  You're not wrong.
[00:35:02]  So Alex talks a little bit more about this story here and lies more.
[00:35:06]  All right, we'll get to your calls here in just a few minutes.
[00:35:11]  For those that just joined us, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, the second highest tier in the land, headline, court opens door to searches without warrants.
[00:35:22]  Dissenting judges call ruling the road to hell.
[00:35:30]  So...
[00:35:31]  I want everybody to think about that long and hard.
[00:35:38]  And they say, hey, we don't need warrants anymore to search your house or business.
[00:35:41]  Just, we're not going to have those anymore.
[00:35:43]  You understand that the courts in the past have ruled that black people weren't slaves, that Native Americans couldn't have their land.
[00:35:50]  Now, in retrospect, we know that was wrong.
[00:35:53]  In hindsight...
[00:35:54]  He knew that, too!
[00:35:55]  Back then it was, hey, they're the authorities, they can do whatever they want.
[00:35:58]  It takes people saying, no, I don't care how many black scheme ass you wear, how many machine guns you got, and the captain of the police in New Orleans says that we're going to use this immediately.
[00:36:13]  They said the new power will go into effect immediately.
[00:36:16]  That's a quote.
[00:36:17]  Alex kind of slipped up there, accidentally saying that it was wrong for the courts to say that black people weren't slaves.
[00:36:22]  Yeah.
[00:36:22]  With anyone else, I would say it's an innocent misspeaking, but with Alex's tragic Freudian slip.
[00:36:28]  But more to the point, Alex is continuing just a straight-up lie to the audience.
[00:36:32]  They didn't say that they don't need to have warrants anymore.
[00:36:35]  It's ridiculous.
[00:36:36]  Further, Alex is quoting New Orleans police spokesperson Marlon DeFillo, saying that the power would go into effect immediately, but Alex selectively doesn't include the other quote, which is, quote, there are checks and balances to make sure the criminal justice system works in an effective manner.
[00:36:50]  Sure.
[00:36:50]  There's another thing he said.
[00:36:51]  Which, you know, kind of cuts the other direction.
[00:36:54]  Now, I should tell you that Captain DeFillo would later resign amid severe controversy involving the case of Henry Glover.
[00:37:00]  Glover was a man who was shot by a rookie police officer a little while after Hurricane Katrina.
[00:37:04]  Another officer would then set his body on fire inside of a car in an attempt to cover up the killing.
[00:37:09]  Sure.
[00:37:10]  While not necessarily actively involved in any of the cover-up, Defillo was facing disciplinary charges for failing to uphold his duty to investigate the killing at the time of his resignation.
[00:37:18]  Right.
[00:37:19]  So anyway, fuck that dude.
[00:37:20]  But also, Alex is taking him out of context in this coverage.
[00:37:22]  Sure.
[00:37:23]  The issue here is that there is an opportunity for an actual discussion about privacy rights here, and this case could serve as an interesting jump-off point.
[00:37:31]  The cops had reason to be there and were invited into this house to search for this guy.
[00:37:36]  He was a known violent felon and had made threats to murder judges, so the police had every reason to be concerned for their safety.
[00:37:42]  They were told that he was in that bedroom but didn't see him, which gives a completely good-faith reason to check to make sure you're not about to be ambushed.
[00:37:50]  Should evidence they see in that sweep be able to be introduced into court for something he was subsequently arrested for?
[00:37:56]  That's a question right-thinking people can have different perspectives on.
[00:37:59]  You really can.
[00:38:00]  I think so.
[00:38:02]  But Alex is depriving the audience of even being able to make up their mind.
[00:38:05]  There's no conversation to be had when the baseline presentation of the story is that the Fourth Amendment is gone.
[00:38:12]  If that is the headline and the story, there's no conversation.
[00:38:16]  Alex is just feeding them a completely fabricated version of the story that plays into all the same bland police state beats that all of his narratives do.
[00:38:23]  He's going to calls not because he wants actual discussion of this case, but because he wants people to riff with him about the unchecked tyranny and all the violent fantasies you can have about fighting it off.
[00:38:33]  That's really more what his show is than anything else.
[00:38:35]  It's a place for people to get riled up about misrepresented drudge headlines, all the while pretending to be about news and information.
[00:38:42]  And it's tragic.
[00:38:43]  This is the difference that I'm talking about, about the past and the present.
[00:38:46]  There is an opportunity with the subjects and the stories he's covering sometimes for an actual conversation to be had about things like...
[00:38:55]  Like, we saw this on a recent 2004 episode.
[00:39:00]  Like, it happens.
[00:39:02]  There are these stories that are like, this is an interesting point where you could make headway and you could get me to sort of agree with you, Alex.
[00:39:11]  Yeah.
[00:39:11]  But you're fucking it up because you're covering the story in a dishonest way that leans so heavily towards your extreme right-wing politics.
[00:39:20]  Yeah.
[00:39:22]  Yeah, it is strange, you know, the living in two different decades, especially whenever we're talking about such different time periods, and you look at the present, Because it is the present, and because you and I are older, obviously, you know, we're more aware of shit, we've been living long enough to, you know, have experienced more shit, all of that stuff.
[00:39:42]  So, like, the idea of looking back fondly is always something to be resisted strongly.
[00:39:48]  But man!
[00:39:50]  2004, everybody talking the media is way less obsessed with pedophiles.
[00:39:56]  True.
[00:39:56]  Being the cause of everybody murdering everybody all the time.
[00:40:00]  I mean, man, it was different.
[00:40:02]  It was so much more boring for people.
[00:40:05]  And it was better when it was boring.
[00:40:07]  It was.
[00:40:07]  Talk radio should be boring!
[00:40:09]  Yeah.
[00:40:10]  Except for a couple of weirdos, you don't take that seriously.
[00:40:13]  There should be fart...
[00:40:14]  Noises and boring politics talk.
[00:40:17]  Not like, hey, somebody's finding out where you live and then you're gonna die because they're a pedophile vaccinator.
[00:40:23]  Like, I don't understand you!
[00:40:24]  Well, that...
[00:40:26]  If it exists, should be on at 3 in the morning, and it should be some kind of a weird coast-to-coast show.
[00:40:34]  Pedophile vaccinator?
[00:40:35]  Whatever.
[00:40:36]  That kind of a show, that was better when that was a niche market as opposed to an entire political party.
[00:40:43]  Right, right, right.
[00:40:44]  There was a time and a place for it.
[00:40:46]  It's too much now.
[00:40:47]  And now is not the time nor the place.
[00:40:49]  No.
[00:40:50]  And to your point about looking back fondly and resisting that, I don't think we'll ever be able to resist that again.
[00:40:56]  I think it's all going to be progressively worse as time goes on.
[00:41:01]  You know why I resisted so much?
[00:41:03]  It's because the baby boomers had the exact opposite problem.
[00:41:06]  Everything was progressively getting better their entire life.
[00:41:09]  And they took it for granted and then fucked us all over and now everything is going to get progressively worse for our lives.
[00:41:15]  What a bunch of assholes.
[00:41:17]  But they still, even as everything was getting better, there's the image in your head of everything was worse.

=== Fifth Circuit Coverage Confusion (03:42) ===

[00:41:22]  Sure, yeah, yeah.
[00:41:23]  That's why they had it backwards.
[00:41:26]  Nuts.
[00:41:27]  So, you had some issues about Alex talking about the Magna Carta.
[00:41:30]  Sure.
[00:41:31]  And he touches back on that here.
[00:41:33]  Okay.
[00:41:38]  What you advise us to pay attention to today, this ruling by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, U.S. Fifth Circuit.
[00:41:48]  Yes.
[00:41:49]  Okay, so this is Alabama.
[00:41:53]  That covers Alabama, right?
[00:41:55]  The ruling will cover the entire country, not just the, I don't know, five, six states or whatever in the Fifth Circuit.
[00:42:02]  It covers Texas, too.
[00:42:04]  It covers you.
[00:42:05]  It seems interesting.
[00:42:06]  What's being focused on here, we lost the Ten Commandments in Alabama, and now they're saying we're losing...
[00:42:14]  Where'd they go?
[00:42:16]  Well, at least this law.
[00:42:19]  We have these traditions, and they are supported by our laws.
[00:42:27]  The law itself...
[00:42:29]  Yeah, the Magna Carta, by the way, brought in what we know as the Fourth Amendment, that a man's home was his castle, Because you used to tax assessors would shove their way in, have their way with your wife, steal your chickens, feed on the public, and it got so bad that low-level nobles took the king and said, look, you stopped this now, and so that's where our Fourth Amendment comes from.
[00:42:52]  I'm not sure...
[00:42:53]  Is that true?
[00:42:54]  I'm not sure if the Fourth Amendment is from the Magna Carta or whatever that means, necessarily.
[00:42:58]  I don't even know, but...
[00:43:00]  It is widely understood to be inspired by British legal precedents, like court cases that involve searches and seizures.
[00:43:05]  Sure.
[00:43:05]  Ones that came way after the Magna Carta.
[00:43:08]  I mean, wasn't the Magna Carta in the 1500s?
[00:43:11]  1200s.
[00:43:12]  It was in the 1200s?
[00:43:13]  There's cases like Entick versus Carrington, which is a big search and seizure-related case from British law.
[00:43:20]  That was in 1765.
[00:43:22]  Right.
[00:43:23]  So like...
[00:43:24]  If the Magna Carta had already established all these things, those kinds of cases wouldn't have been necessary in the 1700s.
[00:43:30]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:43:31]  Anyway, Alex is again showing his non-engagement with civics here.
[00:43:34]  He doesn't know if Alabama is in the Fifth Circuit, and he doesn't know how many states are.
[00:43:38]  I'm not saying that literally everyone needs to have this information at their disposal, but if you're someone making the extravagant claims around topics like this that Alex is, it's a bad sign if you don't.
[00:43:48]  Yeah.
[00:43:49]  I'm not going to listen to you when you say, this applies to the entire United States.
[00:43:52]  You don't know anything about what you're talking about.
[00:43:54]  Yeah, no.
[00:43:55]  It's very important for me not to know stuff like that, because whenever people start saying stuff like, oh, you see, the Fifth Circuit Court, their rulings only matter to this certain number of states, I get angry.
[00:44:06]  I get mad about it, because then what are you talking about?
[00:44:09]  Then there's chaos.
[00:44:10]  It could be anywhere.
[00:44:11]  It could be anything.
[00:44:12]  I get angry because I don't understand this.
[00:44:14]  So if I don't know it...
[00:44:17]  Who cares?
[00:44:18]  It's not going to bother me.
[00:44:19]  Well, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
[00:44:22]  Ignorance of the Fifth Circuit is an excuse for me.
[00:44:25]  Because I'm not in there.
[00:44:26]  What do you know about the Seventh Circuit?
[00:44:27]  I've never even met it.
[00:44:28]  You're in it.
[00:44:32]  So you got a case here in the Fifth Circuit.
[00:44:35]  Sure.
[00:44:35]  And that's out in New Orleans.
[00:44:36]  Yeah.
[00:44:37]  How many circuits are there total?
[00:44:38]  Twelve.
[00:44:39]  Twelve circuits?
[00:44:40]  Uh-huh.
[00:44:40]  Okay.
[00:44:41]  A dozen?
[00:44:42]  About.
[00:44:44]  So it was...
[00:44:45]  Puerto Rico have its own...

=== Mel Gibson's Trash Talk (15:16) ===

[00:44:47]  Baker's doesn't.
[00:44:47]  That's what I was saying.
[00:44:48]  If we get another circuit...
[00:44:50]  I'm not actually sure if Puerto Rico is covered by one of the circuits.
[00:44:55]  Sure.
[00:44:55]  I'll look it up while we listen to this next clip.
[00:44:59]  Sounds good.
[00:44:59]  But, you know, you got New Orleans.
[00:45:02]  And if you are going to be talking about an issue that affects Louisiana...
[00:45:07]  There's only one caller who can help you out with that.
[00:45:10]  Louisiana Dentures!
[00:45:10]  Let's talk to Charles in Louisiana.
[00:45:12]  Charles, go ahead.
[00:45:13]  How you doing, Mr. Jones?
[00:45:14]  Good, sir.
[00:45:15]  Well, I see you talking about the new search warrant.
[00:45:18]  No need for search warrants.
[00:45:20]  Is that big news in Louisiana?
[00:45:22]  Well, I call up the sheriff.
[00:45:23]  I talk to three policemen.
[00:45:25]  I'm sick in my stomach right now.
[00:45:27]  And what did they say?
[00:45:27]  Did they say, oh, it's good?
[00:45:29]  Well, they said, they're going to have orders.
[00:45:31]  Like, do you burn trash in your yard and they see smoke?
[00:45:34]  You know, they got reason to come on there to see, make sure they're in a fire.
[00:45:38]  While they're on there, they can sweep in your house.
[00:45:40]  If you got a bachelor in the yard or something out of the way, they can give you a ticket for it.
[00:45:45]  Mm-hmm.
[00:45:47]  Yep.
[00:45:48]  Getting some good context here.
[00:45:50]  So it turns out, I've looked this up, and Puerto Rico is part of the first district.
[00:45:55]  Oh!
[00:45:56]  So it is covered by the...
[00:45:58]  As is the Virgin Islands, that is part of the third district.
[00:46:01]  Sure, sure.
[00:46:02]  And French Guiana, weirdly enough.
[00:46:03]  Also, I was...
[00:46:05]  I understood there to be 12, but I'm looking at this map and I'm only seeing 11, so I might have been wrong about that.
[00:46:11]  Or maybe there's a hidden...
[00:46:13]  Maybe one is like D.C. Yeah, D.C. has...
[00:46:16]  The ultimate district.
[00:46:17]  I think D.C. has its own district, so that might be the 12th or something.
[00:46:20]  Right, right, right.
[00:46:21]  I'm not sure, and I apologize.
[00:46:23]  Okay.
[00:46:23]  But anyway, Louisiana Dentures has some real insights.
[00:46:26]  Yeah.
[00:46:27]  If you are burning trash...
[00:46:29]  Burning some trash.
[00:46:30]  I don't want to make judgments culturally.
[00:46:33]  You know, people do different things different places.
[00:46:36]  Sometimes trash needs to burn.
[00:46:37]  People from other places look at the stuff we do, and they go, ah, I shouldn't do that.
[00:46:41]  I get it.
[00:46:42]  But maybe don't burn trash.
[00:46:43]  Burning trash is a bad idea, right?
[00:46:45]  Well, what else are you going to do with it?
[00:46:47]  I mean, I don't know, but anything other than just burning it, that's crazy.
[00:46:51]  It's toxic.
[00:46:52]  It's trash.
[00:46:53]  I don't think that if you're burning trash, the police are going to come.
[00:46:58]  And do an unconstitutional search of your place.
[00:47:01]  I don't want them to even look at your place.
[00:47:03]  I want them to deal with you burning all your goddamn trash all the time.
[00:47:06]  Well, I mean, it might be against the law in some places.
[00:47:08]  So, Alex, talk some more to Louisiana Dentures here.
[00:47:13]  Charles, the gentleman Charles.
[00:47:14]  I like him.
[00:47:15]  And I should note that I explained this case to you with Gould and the reason that this all came about.
[00:47:23]  Yes, you did.
[00:47:24]  Alex has yet to.
[00:47:26]  He has not mentioned anything about the case or what the grounds for this is.
[00:47:30]  No details whatsoever.
[00:47:32]  And Charles is the first to bring these up.
[00:47:34]  Gotcha.
[00:47:35]  But here's the thing about it.
[00:47:36]  When you talk to them, they got, if any excuse, and when they come into your yard, if anything, they can come in and say, I want to tweak the house.
[00:47:44]  What happened was, somebody, let me tell you how it started.
[00:47:48]  A guy, somebody threatened a judge.
[00:47:52]  And so they went into the house, knocked on the door, and there was an ex-felon.
[00:47:55]  He had three rifles under the bed, and they swept the house.
[00:47:59]  See, that's how it works.
[00:48:00]  It's always some criminal, so because they were bad, all of us lose our freedoms.
[00:48:04]  So the first one, he threatened somebody, and he went and took the house, got all his guns and all that.
[00:48:10]  Well, they could have, off the threat, gone and gotten the warrant.
[00:48:14]  Yes.
[00:48:15]  Well, I don't need nothing.
[00:48:16]  If you burn trash, or if your kid's running too fast, or if he's in a tree, or anything that might be dangerous, they could pass, or your kid's in a tree.
[00:48:24]  You shouldn't be doing it.
[00:48:26]  By the way, we want to see your house.
[00:48:27]  If you've got too many dirty dishes up in the zinc, they're going to get in touch with PC.
[00:48:34]  Now, did they tell you this?
[00:48:35]  Yes, they said they're going to make a report when they come out.
[00:48:38]  Finally coming out against dirty dishes.
[00:48:40]  Either way.
[00:48:40]  It can go for you, or it can go against you.
[00:48:45]  So now just safety checks of the home.
[00:48:47]  Yes.
[00:48:48]  And what did you say to them when they said that?
[00:48:50]  I said, well, man, you know, this is unconstitutional.
[00:48:52]  I said, well, what are you doing this?
[00:48:54]  Who's going to be doing this to your sister and your mother?
[00:48:56]  What if you get thrown off the police force?
[00:48:59]  What are they going to do this to you?
[00:49:00]  What did they say to that?
[00:49:01]  Well, they just kind of, well, we didn't make the law.
[00:49:04]  We didn't make the law.
[00:49:05]  Yeah, just following orders.
[00:49:06]  Stay there.
[00:49:07]  Stay there.
[00:49:07]  We'll be right back.
[00:49:08]  Then what did they say?
[00:49:10]  We just work here, man.
[00:49:12]  I don't know what to tell you.
[00:49:13]  Yeah, police come out and do a sweep.
[00:49:15]  Ooh, all the dishes are done.
[00:49:18]  I'm gonna give you good merits.
[00:49:20]  I mean, yeah.
[00:49:20]  This is gonna go in your good file.
[00:49:23]  I feel like some of the examples that guy gave give me pause.
[00:49:28]  A little petty.
[00:49:28]  Because, well, because they seem petty.
[00:49:31]  But now they make me concerned.
[00:49:32]  Because he's like, oh, they're just you kidding the tree!
[00:49:35]  And it's like, ah, mm.
[00:49:37]  Is it just your kid in a tree?
[00:49:38]  What are you talking about actually, sir?
[00:49:40]  Are you keeping a kid in a tree?
[00:49:41]  Be more specific.
[00:49:42]  Are you forcing the kid to be in a tree?
[00:49:44]  That's what I want to know!
[00:49:45]  You're just telling me kid in a tree, and I feel like you are not a trustworthy narrator.
[00:49:49]  Where do you learn the most life skills?
[00:49:51]  In a tree.
[00:49:52]  See?
[00:49:53]  Now we're getting more details, and I like it less and less.
[00:49:55]  Speaking of details...
[00:49:57]  It seems like this is the first time Alex has heard these details about this case.
[00:50:01]  It surprises him to know that he is actually fine with them getting those guns away from that guy.
[00:50:06]  Because he agrees that guy is, oh, they always pick the guy who you should take guns away from, and then they use it to take away people's guns that you shouldn't take them from.
[00:50:15]  Yeah.
[00:50:16]  And Alex does actually make a fine point, and that is that they could have done a search based on a warrant.
[00:50:23]  Totally.
[00:50:23]  Based on the threats that they had gotten reported to them.
[00:50:28]  But, that's the issue.
[00:50:30]  They didn't intend to search.
[00:50:32]  They went over to talk to the guy.
[00:50:34]  Yeah, they just wanted to be like, hey.
[00:50:36]  It was incidental.
[00:50:39]  We got some information about you, want to come talk to you, tell you don't kill that judge.
[00:50:44]  It's probably more than a phone call.
[00:50:46]  Well, but yeah, I don't know.
[00:50:49]  I've never been in law enforcement, certainly.
[00:50:51]  I don't know what the best strats are.
[00:50:53]  Sure.
[00:50:53]  But I think that maybe it's an appropriate thing to not...
[00:51:00]  Descend on him with the SWAT team over a hearsay accusation that somebody made.
[00:51:05]  Sure.
[00:51:05]  There could be somebody who's trying to set this guy up.
[00:51:09]  You know, there are explanations for the tip that they got that don't involve this guy actually wanting to kill judges.
[00:51:16]  So there might be reason to not approach this with, I'm going to get a search and arrest warrant to go in.
[00:51:22]  Maybe you soft play it a little bit.
[00:51:24]  Man, these people have no fucking clue.
[00:51:27]  They have no fucking clue that somebody's gonna be playing video games on Twitch ten years from then, and another kid's gonna be like, hey, guess what?
[00:51:35]  Let's send a SWAT team to his fucking house!
[00:51:39]  True.
[00:51:39]  That's crazy!
[00:51:40]  These people are nuts!
[00:51:42]  Yeah.
[00:51:42]  Welcome to the past, assholes!
[00:51:44]  I wanna scream at the past now!
[00:51:46]  Back then, it was just sending pizzas to people's house.
[00:51:48]  What a crazy prank that used to be.
[00:51:51]  Yeah.
[00:51:51]  Yeah.
[00:51:51]  Real bad.
[00:51:52]  Yep.
[00:51:53]  But, people did it.
[00:51:56]  So, Alex lies a bit more about this story.
[00:51:59]  Sure.
[00:51:59]  And then Charles has a very tragic turn.
[00:52:02]  All right, a high-level federal court, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, ruled there is no more Fourth Amendment.
[00:52:09]  They said that the police can search your house or home or business anytime they want for any reason.
[00:52:15]  This is nationwide.
[00:52:16]  Let's see the criminals now and try to carry it out.
[00:52:18]  And they'll have lots of good examples.
[00:52:20]  Oh, we caught a bad criminal.
[00:52:21]  We did this.
[00:52:22]  See, the Fourth Amendment was bad.
[00:52:25]  A court opens door to searches without warrants.
[00:52:27]  Dissenting judges calls ruling the road to hell.
[00:52:32]  The fifth ruling is criminal, similar to Supreme Court rulings of the past declaring black people slaves.
[00:52:37]  It is a total violation of the Bill of Rights and is null and void.
[00:52:41]  The U.S. Congress and Legislature of Louisiana should call an emergency session to investigate possible criminal charges of sedition against those ruling to eradicate the Fourth Amendment.
[00:52:51]  The problem is...
[00:52:53]  These judges are all part of the same system, and so are the people in Washington and Louisiana.
[00:52:59]  And it's just an incredible article from the New Orleans News Channel 6. There's also an article, we're told, we're getting that posted out of the Baton Rouge.
[00:53:12]  What newspaper is that, Charles, that you were looking at the article on this Saturday?
[00:53:16]  Morning Advocate.
[00:53:16]  This was a what?
[00:53:17]  I'm an advocate.
[00:53:18]  It's ADD.
[00:53:24]  AD.
[00:53:25]  Okay, that's all right.
[00:53:26]  Go ahead and put her on the line if she wants to give us a website.
[00:53:30]  Do you have the newspaper there in front of you?
[00:53:34]  Just don't worry about it.
[00:53:35]  Don't worry about it.
[00:53:35]  Nah.
[00:53:36]  I thought we were going to get to hear from Miss Louisiana.
[00:53:41]  Not going to happen.
[00:53:42]  Got to hear her in the background, but I thought we could add another character to our...
[00:53:45]  That would have been nice.
[00:53:46]  Our Rolodex.
[00:53:47]  Lady Louisiana.
[00:53:49]  Yeah, but you see, Alex has fully established his talking points here.
[00:53:52]  The court decided the Fourth Amendment is gone, and this applies to the whole country.
[00:53:56]  Boom.
[00:53:56]  Set.
[00:53:57]  You notice a little slick move he pulled there, though.
[00:53:59]  He starts reading off his own commentary about this, the stuff about the law being null and void, in the same voice as if you were reading from the article.
[00:54:07]  And then he doesn't cite it as being his own meaningless opinions, but instead mentions an article.
[00:54:12]  This is intentional.
[00:54:13]  He's trying to pass that off as something more authoritative than his own dumb thoughts.
[00:54:18]  Feel bad for Charles, though.
[00:54:21]  I would like to see a...
[00:54:25]  I would like to see one court system, one court circuit, charge an entire other court circuit with sedition, and then just see what happens there.
[00:54:37]  I don't think you could.
[00:54:39]  I mean, I don't even know what the mechanics of that would be.
[00:54:41]  I mean, me neither, but let's find out.
[00:54:43]  I think what winds up happening?
[00:54:45]  Celebrity deathmatch.
[00:54:46]  Well, I mean, I think that it obviously has happened before that a circuit court will make a ruling, and then it goes to the Supreme Court, and then it's ruled unconstitutional, or whatever.
[00:54:57]  Like, that happens.
[00:54:58]  And then it just is not done.
[00:54:59]  So that's the Supreme Court ruling these people seditious.
[00:55:02]  They ruled something that is against the Constitution.
[00:55:05]  Sure, but I mean, like, in a nice way.
[00:55:08]  Yeah.
[00:55:09]  Not in an angry, yelly way like Alex would want.
[00:55:12]  Right.
[00:55:12]  So Alex gets done with Charles, which, I mean, I feel bad.
[00:55:16]  If you listen carefully, he's spelling advocate right, and you can make out that he's saying advocate.
[00:55:21]  It would have been very clear if Alex just hadn't talked over him.
[00:55:24]  Real railroading there.
[00:55:26]  Yeah.
[00:55:26]  But Alex gets off the call with him and gets really pumped up to go to another call, and then it just deflates immediately.
[00:55:33]  I want to hear from police on this.
[00:55:36]  I'm going to go through your calls quickly.
[00:55:37]  None of the lines are loaded.
[00:55:38]  I want to hear from police, good police, bad police, whatever.
[00:55:41]  Do you agree with this?
[00:55:43]  Excuse me, Alex, I'm a bad police?
[00:55:49]  Yes, hello, Alex.
[00:56:02]  I've seen the passion of the Christ.
[00:56:04]  And I appreciate Mel Gibson's works.
[00:56:07]  But tell me it isn't true.
[00:56:08]  He's supposed to have said, we will not get to heaven unless we belong to the church.
[00:56:16]  Number one, I ask at the first of the show that we talk about the Fourth Amendment.
[00:56:21]  I rarely say that I want to talk about an issue.
[00:56:24]  So you talk about that first, then we'll talk about what you called in about.
[00:56:28]  I don't want to talk about that.
[00:56:29]  I don't want to talk about Mel Gibson.
[00:56:30]  I mean, yeah, that's fair.
[00:56:32]  That is the fairest I think I could feel for Alex right there.
[00:56:36]  Why?
[00:56:36]  Just legitimate.
[00:56:37]  I'd be like, you know what?
[00:56:39]  I really don't want to talk about this right now.
[00:56:42]  Sure.
[00:56:42]  I made that clear.
[00:56:43]  Sure.
[00:56:43]  I don't want to talk about this right now.
[00:56:45]  Yeah, but when you're Alex and you're like, you know, I know everything.
[00:56:49]  Sure.
[00:56:50]  You kind of lose your ability to credibly deflect.
[00:56:54]  I agree with you on that front.
[00:56:56]  But to Alex's credit, this guy...
[00:56:59]  He complains about George W. Bush a little bit.
[00:57:01]  And then Alex does let him speak his piece on Mel Gibson.
[00:57:05]  He doesn't actually.
[00:57:07]  Alex speaks his piece for him.
[00:57:09]  So Alex does at least address it.
[00:57:11]  Here's that.
[00:57:12]  Let me take your passion thing real quick.
[00:57:15]  I'm not a Catholic.
[00:57:16]  I think Mel Gibson's great.
[00:57:18]  Look at the fruits of what he's done.
[00:57:19]  I think that his father is a patriotic guy who's been misrepresented and lied about a lot.
[00:57:25]  Okay, that's the facts there.
[00:57:27]  And Mel Gibson was quoted in the press, and others have been quoted, that that was a lie.
[00:57:34]  He didn't say, I don't know if my wife's going to get into heaven because she doesn't belong to the church.
[00:57:38]  I see.
[00:57:40]  Yeah, so I just think it's more wanting to get people fighting with each other.
[00:57:43]  Thanks for the call.
[00:57:44]  Thanks.
[00:57:44]  You bet.
[00:57:45]  Good to hear from you.
[00:57:46]  Okay.
[00:57:47]  Well, Mel Gibson's dad has not been taken out of context.
[00:57:49]  He's a rabid anti-Semite and Holocaust denier.
[00:57:52]  Alex just kind of likes those sorts of people.
[00:57:54]  Further, Alex is completely lying about Mel's comments.
[00:57:58]  Mel Gibson absolutely said that his wife might be going to hell.
[00:58:01]  From an interview he did with the Herald Sun, quote, There is no salvation for those outside the church.
[00:58:06]  I believe it.
[00:58:07]  Put it this way.
[00:58:08]  My wife's a saint.
[00:58:09]  She's a much better person than I am.
[00:58:11]  Honestly.
[00:58:12]  She's like Episcopalian Church of England.
[00:58:14]  She prays.
[00:58:15]  She believes in God.
[00:58:16]  She knows Jesus.
[00:58:17]  She believes in that stuff.
[00:58:18]  And it's just not fair if she doesn't make it.
[00:58:20]  She's better than I am.
[00:58:21]  But that's a pronouncement from the chair.
[00:58:23]  I go with it.
[00:58:25]  That is the most honest religious statement I've ever heard.
[00:58:29]  From any of these people.
[00:58:31]  That is the most honest and true biblical reflection of faith that I can think of.
[00:58:36]  It is a little bit of like, at least you're taking the rough.
[00:58:40]  Yeah, I mean, hey, it is what it is.
[00:58:42]  I'm telling you about the book, right?
[00:58:45]  It's what I'm told to do.
[00:58:47]  I'm doing what I'm told.
[00:58:49]  So now you actually have to believe me when I say that I think God does not give a fuck about anybody.
[00:58:54]  God's big on these technicalities.
[00:58:56]  Yeah, absolutely doesn't give a fuck about you.
[00:58:58]  Could be great.
[00:58:59]  I bet you could save a million lives.
[00:59:01]  God would rather see you in hell than just have you say, nah, I'm not into you.
[00:59:07]  I'm not into the church.
[00:59:09]  Period.
[00:59:10]  Yeah.
[00:59:10]  So Alex knows that his audience is pretty opposed to the mainstream churches, and at this point they're a pretty anti-Catholic church, so it's pretty hard to rationalize supporting someone who believes stuff like what Mel Gibson just said.
[00:59:21]  Particularly when you're trying to make such a big deal out of the movie that that guy just made about Jesus.
[00:59:27]  In order to get around this pretty difficult situation, Alex just lies.
[00:59:31]  Out of thin air, he pulls some publicist-ass line about Mel being taken out of context and asserts it as real.
[00:59:37]  The shithead's greatest trick when they're cornered is just insisting they were taken out of context.
[00:59:42]  For some reason, that actually works on people.
[00:59:44]  I don't get it, but it is magical, almost.

=== People Gotta Not Accept That (08:35) ===

[00:59:48]  You saw it as a defense for literally everything Alex said in his trial, which didn't actually work, but...
[00:59:54]  People who weren't involved with the court proceeding are persuaded by it.
[00:59:58]  People like Elon Musk are persuaded by it.
[01:00:01]  Rogan is tricked by this dumb bullshit.
[01:00:03]  I watched a CNN interview with RFK Jr. the other day, and you just saw him doing the same tricks.
[01:00:11]  This is taken out of context.
[01:00:12]  No, I'm all out of context.
[01:00:13]  Yeah.
[01:00:14]  And it's just...
[01:00:16]  People gotta not accept that as an answer.
[01:00:19]  Well, I don't think people accept it as an answer.
[01:00:21]  I mean, I think people love to tell themselves that they do, but I think probably the reality is the reason that it doesn't work in court isn't have to do with like, oh, it has to be facts or anything like that.
[01:00:31]  It has to do with the fact that the jury is not allowed to be friends with people.
[01:00:36]  Right?
[01:00:37]  That's what it is.
[01:00:38]  Like, whenever those assholes show up and they're like, oh, it took me out of context, their friends are the people who say, oh yeah, of course, they took you out of context.
[01:00:47]  To be fair, this...
[01:00:48]  It's the way you signal that you like people is you believe they're bullshit.
[01:00:51]  This interviewer was pretty hostile towards the...
[01:00:54]  or adversarial, at least, as a journalist.
[01:00:57]  Sure, sure.
[01:00:57]  So, like, that was not a friendly interaction, but...
[01:01:01]  I could see in the exchange the way that people who want to like RFK Jr. will accept that as a blanket carte blanche for all this insane stuff he's saying.
[01:01:13]  Yeah, he's my friend and you're my enemy, so I'm going to believe my friend's lies and I'm going to call you a liar even if you're telling me the truth.
[01:01:19]  Right.
[01:01:19]  And in a jury or in a trial, you know, it's like, I have to sit here.
[01:01:23]  Quietly, and not talk to anybody about this, and just actually listen to what I'm told is actually happening, and I can't be like, oh, I like this person more, so fuck it.
[01:01:34]  You know?
[01:01:34]  It's tough.
[01:01:35]  Speaking of courts, Rudy, America's Mayor Giuliani, just got hit with a big old defamation.
[01:01:43]  I saw that, and my brain, maybe it was because I was dealing with food poisoning, but I inserted a...
[01:01:50]  A period in it.
[01:01:52]  So I saw the headline.
[01:01:53]  It was like, Rudy owes 14.8 million or something like that.
[01:01:56]  I was like, ooh, bad day.
[01:01:58]  I saw another headline.
[01:01:59]  It was like 148.
[01:02:00]  Ooh, worst day.
[01:02:02]  It's bad when it was 14. Yeah, but I don't know.
[01:02:06]  For people who are just going to die soon, that's not fair.
[01:02:09]  But also, you know, Alex has kind of given a method for everybody to just avoid shit.
[01:02:14]  Yeah, just not do it.
[01:02:16]  Hey, come get me.
[01:02:18]  Yeah.
[01:02:18]  What are you going to do?
[01:02:19]  Are you going to send the cops to get money from me?
[01:02:21]  No, you're not.
[01:02:22]  You're a coward.
[01:02:22]  It seems hard to imagine why a lot of people wouldn't just use the Alex method.
[01:02:27]  I mean, I can't imagine respecting a courtroom ever again for as long as I live.
[01:02:31]  I would shit talk a judge.
[01:02:33]  Fuck you.
[01:02:33]  You pieces of shit.
[01:02:35]  Wear a robe.
[01:02:36]  Ooh, look at my robe.
[01:02:38]  That is fun for you.
[01:02:39]  I will continue to respect courts.
[01:02:41]  No, fuck them.
[01:02:42]  They lose.
[01:02:43]  They're losers.
[01:02:44]  They're just bullies.
[01:02:45]  I'd love to smash cut to you in court.
[01:02:47]  Oh, I'm done.
[01:02:50]  I'm done.
[01:02:50]  You'll never take me alive.
[01:02:52]  I'd rather die than get into a courtroom.
[01:02:55]  This is you on air.
[01:02:58]  This is not...
[01:02:59]  Oh, no.
[01:02:59]  I can't go into a cage, man.
[01:03:01]  I can't.
[01:03:03]  They'll get me.
[01:03:04]  This is the more real side.
[01:03:05]  They'll fucking get me.
[01:03:06]  I gotta die first.
[01:03:09]  Oh, nice robe.
[01:03:12]  So, Alex gets another call.
[01:03:14]  And this is a troubling thing for anyone to hear when you're in a position like Alex.
[01:03:18]  Let's go ahead and talk to Kim in Texas.
[01:03:20]  Kim, go ahead.
[01:03:21]  Hi, Alex.
[01:03:22]  I was calling to see under what condition did this guy get it to the appellate court.
[01:03:28]  Okay, the Fifth Circuit just says that, and this is nationwide, by the way, they were ruling on a particular case in Louisiana, and they said they're going to use it there.
[01:03:36]  This just says that if they feel like it, or if it feels like it's for their safety, they can just go ahead and search anybody's house or business without a warrant.
[01:03:44]  This is a massive evisceration of the Fourth Amendment.
[01:03:48]  What's the name of the case?
[01:03:49]  I wonder what's the name of the case.
[01:03:50]  Let me dig it out.
[01:03:51]  It's actually here in the stack.
[01:03:53]  We also, and I don't have this in front of me, but I'm told by my webmaster we posted it, we also have another Louisiana news article about it, not just News 6. Okay.
[01:04:03]  Okay, that's what I wanted to ask.
[01:04:04]  I wanted to research it myself.
[01:04:06]  Thank you.
[01:04:06]  We will get that.
[01:04:07]  I believe it's already posted.
[01:04:08]  If it's not, we'll get it posted.
[01:04:09]  Okay, thank you.
[01:04:10]  You bet.
[01:04:10]  Good to hear from you.
[01:04:11]  I appreciate the call.
[01:04:12]  Let's go ahead and take another call.
[01:04:15]  Hey, Alex, what's the underlying information of this?
[01:04:19]  Well, let me actually just repeat my talking points.
[01:04:22]  Let me launch back into, well, here's the deal.
[01:04:25]  The Fourth Amendment is gone because this court has said so.
[01:04:28]  Yeah.
[01:04:28]  What's the case?
[01:04:29]  I'll dig it out.
[01:04:31]  Yeah, that is interesting whenever you haven't yet fully trained an audience to not even ask.
[01:04:36]  Yeah.
[01:04:37]  Yeah.
[01:04:37]  There's still, like, little blips.
[01:04:39]  People still pop up being like, you know what?
[01:04:41]  I want to follow up on that, Alex.
[01:04:44]  That's not...
[01:04:44]  People take it seriously when you say, do your own research.
[01:04:47]  You're not long for this show.
[01:04:48]  No, probably not.
[01:04:49]  No.
[01:04:49]  So another caller has a question about the Fifth Circuit.
[01:04:53]  Yeah.
[01:04:54]  And this is weird, because it's a valid question, and then Alex has no idea what this guy's talking about, and then explodes.
[01:05:00]  Okay.
[01:05:01]  Edward, Illinois, go ahead.
[01:05:03]  Oh, how you doing, Alex?
[01:05:04]  Good.
[01:05:06]  I got a question about this...
[01:05:08]  Court of Appeals case.
[01:05:09]  That was in the Fifth Circuit, right?
[01:05:12]  Fifth Circuit.
[01:05:13]  I watched 60 Minutes last night, and they did a piece on Charles Pickering.
[01:05:18]  Is that Charles Pickering's circuit?
[01:05:22]  I don't believe so.
[01:05:23]  No, that went to the...
[01:05:24]  Are you talking about the case with having to show an ID?
[01:05:28]  No, this was the one where they were...
[01:05:30]  They were kind of making Charles Pickering look like a good guy and making Charlie Schumer look like a bad guy.
[01:05:36]  Give folks some background.
[01:05:39]  We're not all inside your head.
[01:05:40]  Give us some background.
[01:05:40]  Yes, please.
[01:05:41]  Okay, well, I watched...
[01:05:43]  I was just...
[01:05:44]  Charles Pickering was the judge that there was all this controversy over that the Bush administration wanted to have him in some court of appeals, I think the 5th District.
[01:05:56]  And they didn't want him in there because...
[01:05:59]  He had lowered the...
[01:06:01]  He lowered the...
[01:06:02]  Just stay there.
[01:06:03]  We'll cover it!
[01:06:05]  Whoa.
[01:06:07]  Whoa.
[01:06:08]  No need for that yell, man.
[01:06:10]  Yeah, that was unnecessary.
[01:06:12]  I get it.
[01:06:12]  We'll cover me up back!
[01:06:13]  I get it, though.
[01:06:14]  No idea why you're so mad.
[01:06:15]  No, I get it.
[01:06:17]  That's a very frustrating way to have a conversation with somebody.
[01:06:19]  I don't think so.
[01:06:21]  That's your grandma being like, oh, it's the guy from the movie.
[01:06:24]  No, not the movie that you're talking about.
[01:06:26]  The movie that I saw the other day where you weren't there.
[01:06:30]  No, it is not nearly that.
[01:06:31]  It appears to be that because we're 20 years removed from it.
[01:06:35]  Sure, sure.
[01:06:35]  No, no, no.
[01:06:36]  I know.
[01:06:36]  If you had been around then, this name would have been a lot more relevant.
[01:06:40]  Yeah.
[01:06:40]  Because Charles Pickering was somebody who was nominated by George W. in 2001 for the Fifth Circuit Court.
[01:06:45]  But Dems controlled the Judiciary Committee at the time, so the nomination stalled.
[01:06:50]  W. nominated him again in 2003 with the GOP in charge of the Judiciary Committee, and his nomination made it to the Senate.
[01:06:56]  The Democrats in the Senate decided to filibuster his nomination due to concerns over his stated opposition to abortion and some...
[01:07:04]  This was a pretty big deal in the news, even more so because in January 2004, Bush circumvented that filibuster by giving Pickering a recess appointment to the Fifth Circuit.
[01:07:15]  This is like in the middle of that recess appointment that the episode we're listening to is happening.
[01:07:20]  It was just a few months prior to this.
[01:07:22]  So the name Charles Pickering, the Fifth Circuit, this shouldn't be like, are you speaking some foreign language to me?
[01:07:29]  It shouldn't be like your grandma talking to you about some X, Y, or Z tertiary character on some soap opera.
[01:07:37]  It's not like that.
[01:07:38]  No, especially not for Alex.
[01:07:40]  It shouldn't be.
[01:07:41]  That should be really, really important, that whole...
[01:07:44]  I mean, if you're going to be mad about the unconstitutional or constitutionality of a cop looking in your closet or underneath your bed, you should also probably be mad about the president just randomly appointing some asshole and nobody can do anything about it.
[01:08:02]  As far as all your checks and balances stuff go, that's well and good, but come on.
[01:08:06]  Well, I mean, you could make an argument that the idea of...

=== Two Reactions, One Problem (15:34) ===

[01:08:12]  A neocon globalist like George W. Bush being able to handpick and force through people onto this court is a contributing factor to why this decision could have been made.
[01:08:23]  You'd think?
[01:08:23]  So this does seem like another instance of Alex not really having a robust understanding of the issues that he's talking about.
[01:08:31]  Yeah.
[01:08:31]  And presenting himself as an expert.
[01:08:33]  Yeah.
[01:08:33]  I just, I mean, he was mad.
[01:08:36]  He was mad.
[01:08:38]  Yeah.
[01:08:38]  That was real mad.
[01:08:39]  Yeah.
[01:08:41]  Maybe it's because he got made to feel real stupid.
[01:08:44]  It could be.
[01:08:45]  Yeah.
[01:08:45]  It could be.
[01:08:45]  So we get another caller, and this guy, he set off one of my little alarms, one of my little bells that I have with these fucks.
[01:08:56]  Okay.
[01:08:57]  I'm a human being, you hear me?
[01:08:59]  And I know you're criminals.
[01:09:00]  And I know you're a bunch of thugs out of control.
[01:09:03]  And I know history.
[01:09:04]  And we stand against you, you mob of crooks!
[01:09:07]  Pieces of filth!
[01:09:09]  Let's go ahead and talk to Paul in Florida.
[01:09:11]  Paul, go ahead.
[01:09:12]  Yeah, Alex, I have to say that I'm with you.
[01:09:15]  This is very, very concerning.
[01:09:18]  I don't think that one-tenth of one percent of the people in this country realize what this means.
[01:09:24]  And if you look...
[01:09:25]  If this follows the problem, reaction, solution scenario like they always do, the reaction is going to be that a cop or two or a 50 or a 100 are going to get killed going into people's houses, and then the solution is going to be no more guns.
[01:09:43]  Anything else you want to add?
[01:09:45]  Just think about that.
[01:09:46]  That's not very pretty.
[01:09:47]  And I hope they don't come to my house.
[01:09:50]  All right.
[01:09:51]  Thanks for the call.
[01:09:52]  Are we free human beings?
[01:09:54]  Is this still America?
[01:09:57]  So this is kind of what Alex would have wanted to get to.
[01:10:00]  You know, the part where they ruminate about how they're going to kill cops if they come into their homes.
[01:10:04]  Yeah, that's the fun part.
[01:10:05]  Tragic timing for the commercial to hit right when that plane landed.
[01:10:07]  You can tell Alex is a little bit deflated.
[01:10:09]  But I want to hit on this problem-reaction-solution thing.
[01:10:13]  None of these fucks understand the basic concept that they're talking about, but the words are so smart to them that they can't help but apply it incorrectly to every situation.
[01:10:21]  In this framework of looking at the world, there's a problem, which is inevitably caused by the globalists.
[01:10:27]  In response to that problem, the public has a reaction, which is almost always to demand that the government do something about the problem.
[01:10:35]  Then the government comes in with the solution, which is what they wanted to do to begin with.
[01:10:40]  The solution is some kind of horrible, unpopular legislation that the globalists know that they could never pass without some kind of massive public outcry.
[01:10:47]  So in order to get it passed, they caused this problem, which elicits the reaction of the public making that outcry.
[01:10:53]  Right.
[01:10:54]  The classic example is with 9-11.
[01:10:56]  The globalists wanted to pass the Patriot Act but knew they couldn't, so they did 9-11 in order to terrorize the public into demanding the government to do something to protect them.
[01:11:05]  9-11's the problem, the public demand for safety is the reaction, and the Patriot Act is the solution.
[01:11:11]  This is a really important way for conspiracy theorists to understand world events because it gives narrative structure to everything that happens in a way that's really easy to understand.
[01:11:20]  And yet, every time I hear it brought up, these fucks have no idea what the problem, reaction, or solution is supposed to be in any of this.
[01:11:28]  In this case, the reaction is not going to be people killing cops.
[01:11:32]  That would be the problem, which would then lead to the reaction of massive public support for firearm legislation bringing about the solution of gun control, which is what they wanted in the first place.
[01:11:41]  Right.
[01:11:41]  I know I probably sound a little bit pedantic here, but this is a fundamental conspiracy concept, and it bothers me how little respect these people have for the syntax of their own ideas.
[01:11:50]  Like, David Icke would be pissed.
[01:11:52]  Yeah.
[01:11:53]  Yeah, I mean, because in the conception that I believe he's trying to say right now is that the problem is people have guns.
[01:12:00]  Or patriots have guns.
[01:12:02]  The reaction is people want the cops to take patriots' guns, and then the solution is the cops take patriots' guns.
[01:12:12]  But at no point in time does it...
[01:12:15]  No, I think a cleaner way of what he's saying is the problem is this Fifth Circuit ruling.
[01:12:23]  The problem is that.
[01:12:25]  The reaction is killing cops when they come to your house, and the solution is gun control.
[01:12:29]  Right.
[01:12:30]  But that doesn't work, because the problem isn't...
[01:12:33]  That's not...
[01:12:34]  That circuit decision doesn't qualify as one of the problems in the way that the problem-reaction-solution fundamentally unfolds.
[01:12:44]  Right.
[01:12:45]  It's just a little bit of a problem that I have with these fucks.
[01:12:50]  I can't take it when they don't even play their own game.
[01:12:54]  Well, yeah, because...
[01:12:55]  Yeah, okay.
[01:12:58]  The idea...
[01:12:59]  Is that the problem and the solution are the same thing.
[01:13:02]  Created by the same people for the disregard of the reaction.
[01:13:07]  Right?
[01:13:08]  Because if things were allowed to happen on their own without this problem slash solution, the reaction wouldn't even exist.
[01:13:14]  No.
[01:13:15]  People wouldn't want guns taken away from people.
[01:13:18]  But again, the way they describe this, the problem is fundamentally that people have guns.
[01:13:25]  That is the problem that the globalists have with Americans.
[01:13:29]  But it is not a problem in the problem-reaction-solution set.
[01:13:33]  The words are the same in terms of...
[01:13:37]  Right.
[01:13:38]  But they don't mean the same in terms of this.
[01:13:41]  This is what is behind all of the false flag terrorism and stuff.
[01:13:47]  Those are all problems that are supposed to elicit a reaction and the government can come in with the solution.
[01:13:52]  Right.
[01:13:52]  That's behind all of this.
[01:13:54]  The passing of a Fifth Circuit Court decision doesn't apply to the level of false flag type stuff that's supposed to elicit a reaction.
[01:14:04]  Yeah.
[01:14:05]  And...
[01:14:06]  In order for this to work, there needs to be two reactions.
[01:14:13]  Because, for what this guy is saying, there's the Fifth Circuit Court decision, which is the problem, and then the reaction is people kill cops when they come to their house.
[01:14:22]  Then there needs to be another reaction, which is the public overwhelmingly supports gun control.
[01:14:26]  And then they pass gun control.
[01:14:28]  I guess I got this backwards.
[01:14:29]  What?
[01:14:30]  Because I thought the original problem was the guy, the criminal has guns in his place.
[01:14:36]  The reaction is the cops then get to overstep their boundaries and people are okay with it because the guy was a criminal.
[01:14:44]  And then the solution is the Fifth Circuit Court's decision.
[01:14:49]  See, now that's interesting.
[01:14:50]  You're trying to apply it to the actual case, which Alex really hasn't even discussed.
[01:14:56]  That's right!
[01:14:56]  I continue not remembering that.
[01:14:59]  No, that is...
[01:15:02]  Not necessarily.
[01:15:03]  Let me see if there's a way we can make that work.
[01:15:06]  Because I thought that's what that guy was talking about.
[01:15:10]  No.
[01:15:11]  Is that essentially they created the scenario where the criminal has guns.
[01:15:16]  There's too many other variables involved in order for this to fit.
[01:15:20]  We're maybe digging a little too deep in here.
[01:15:23]  For this to work in terms of what you're saying, applying it to what he's saying, combining those two, you need it to be like problem, problem.
[01:15:31]  Reaction, problem, reaction, solution.
[01:15:34]  Reaction, solution, yeah.
[01:15:34]  And that's not clean.
[01:15:37]  Because the way it would go is to be the problem is the guy has guns.
[01:15:40]  The reaction is the cops take the guns.
[01:15:42]  The solution is the Fifth Circuit Court.
[01:15:45]  But that is actually the problem.
[01:15:46]  The reaction to that is shooting cops.
[01:15:50]  And then the solution is more of the Fifth Circuit.
[01:15:53]  And that reaction would lead to people shooting cops.
[01:15:56]  And that solution...
[01:15:57]  Wait.
[01:15:58]  See, it's dominoes.
[01:15:59]  It might be a problem.
[01:16:00]  So, Paul Joseph Watson comes in to ride shotgun with Alex.
[01:16:05]  Gotta do it.
[01:16:06]  Check the waterfront.
[01:16:07]  Of course.
[01:16:07]  Mostly just whine about this article.
[01:16:10]  Read Drudge.
[01:16:11]  Maybe the actual article.
[01:16:14]  Paul might actually have read it.
[01:16:15]  Paul Watson, I am just...
[01:16:17]  I haven't been this hot in a long time, even when...
[01:16:20]  They wanted to pass a bill to put everybody in forest labor camps.
[01:16:23]  That's word for word, forest work camps.
[01:16:26]  Forest labor camps?
[01:16:27]  And, you know, the attempted martial law in Rhode Island.
[01:16:30]  I mean, all of this, to have them come out and do this right out in the open is despicable.
[01:16:36]  Well, as the dissenting judges said, it is the road to hell.
[01:16:40]  But what's interesting about the original article that we posted from News Channel 6...
[01:16:47]  They've actually gone in there and amended the article, and they've taken out the quote where the two dissenting judges called this the road to help.
[01:16:54]  Wait a minute.
[01:16:55]  Now, this came out on Drudge everywhere else yesterday.
[01:16:58]  We copied it and posted it this morning, and you're telling me now...
[01:17:03]  Oh, you've got to write an article about how they changed that!
[01:17:06]  Aha!
[01:17:07]  A new article!
[01:17:08]  So Paul makes an interesting allegation here, that the article removes the fact that multiple dissenting judges called this, quote, the road to hell.
[01:17:15]  I'd been just going off the article, so maybe the version that I'd seen was the edited one.
[01:17:20]  One of the best ways to deal with this is I just consulted the actual opinion from the Fifth Circuit.
[01:17:25]  Would help.
[01:17:25]  And there's just one judge who wrote the dissenting opinion who makes the comment about a road to hell.
[01:17:31]  He says that adage about being paved with good intentions and then says, quote, I'll say that's a little close, at least.
[01:17:55]  I would give that in the margin of error.
[01:17:58]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:17:58]  But when you think about what an editor is doing, you can understand why you might change that from the verbiage in the article being two dissenting judges called it, quote, the road to hell.
[01:18:11]  That's not really a precise or accurate...
[01:18:16]  Necessarily quoting of this?
[01:18:17]  It is maybe technically words that were quoted.
[01:18:21]  However, it gives the impression of something that did not happen.
[01:18:25]  Yeah.
[01:18:26]  And I think it's a little dramatic on the initial writer's part.
[01:18:33]  Sure, sure.
[01:18:33]  And then also on Alex's and Paul's part.
[01:18:35]  It's always nice to give a good road to hell speech, though.
[01:18:38]  Sure.
[01:18:38]  It's paved.
[01:18:40]  I hate it when they pave that shit.
[01:18:42]  Who pays them to do it?
[01:18:44]  Who pays the pavers?
[01:18:46]  Well, that's a good question.
[01:18:48]  We've got to get to the bottom of this.
[01:18:49]  But first, Paul has actually some knowledge of the underlying case.
[01:18:54]  So he talks about that a little bit.
[01:18:56]  What they've actually added to the article is the phony justification for it.
[01:19:02]  Which is the case of, as you've been mentioning on your show in the past few segments, the case of a man named Gould, who supposedly threatened to kill judges and police officers.
[01:19:13]  But then for everybody else, see, it's for their safety.
[01:19:15]  Now for everybody else, no more warrants.
[01:19:17]  See, they always have that excuse.
[01:19:19]  It's so sick.
[01:19:21]  And what basically happened is that they went to his home.
[01:19:25]  Somebody answered the door, presumably his wife.
[01:19:28]  She agreed that they could enter.
[01:19:31]  They approached the man's bedroom, and seeing that he wasn't in there, they started opening all his closets.
[01:19:38]  So if it worked there, do it to everybody else.
[01:19:41]  That's not how America works.
[01:19:42]  See their excuses?
[01:19:43]  So I guess we should get rid of all police then, because we've caught some police raping, robbing, and killing, and dealing drugs.
[01:19:50]  So let's just get rid of all the police, because some were bad.
[01:19:53]  But, I mean, ultimately, this is obviously about confiscation of firearms, because that's the point where they went and arrested Gould after they found the three firearms in his closet.
[01:20:02]  They no longer will need the warrants to get in everybody's house to get the guns as they ban them.
[01:20:07]  Bingo.
[01:20:08]  So Paul has some details wrong.
[01:20:09]  Like, it wasn't this guy's wife who let the police in, it was his roommate.
[01:20:12]  But good on him finally making the pivot towards what this is actually about, which is how badly the man wants to take Alex's guns.
[01:20:19]  Right.
[01:20:19]  More importantly, though, he's saying that this article added in the, quote, phony justification for the decision, which is the entire case that this is based on.
[01:20:28]  It's not phony justification.
[01:20:29]  It's the whole story.
[01:20:31]  It's the in-question justification.
[01:20:33]  It's the point.
[01:20:35]  Ghoul getting arrested is not the justification some shadowy cabal used to make a power move.
[01:20:41]  It was the situation that played out that's being heard by the court.
[01:20:45]  I guess you could assume, if you assume that everything is some elaborate plan put in place by an evil group, then how could anything be a genuine cause for any effect?
[01:20:53]  That's a good point.
[01:20:54]  There's no way they could actually consider for a second that it could have gone either way.
[01:20:58]  Yeah.
[01:20:59]  Everything, by definition, has to either be some stage shit or phony justification in service of reaching the evil goal the evil group decided to get to.
[01:21:06]  That's a really dumb way to deal with information.
[01:21:09]  Without understanding the specifics of this case, you cannot possibly engage with the reasoning for...
[01:21:18]  about how the man wants to steal your gun and all this stuff.
[01:21:20]  You're left, you're at sea without a paddle.
[01:21:23]  Yeah.
[01:21:23]  Essentially.
[01:21:24]  Yeah.
[01:21:25]  Also, Alex's analogy about getting rid of the police because there's some bad ones doesn't really logically track.
[01:21:29]  The ruling doesn't say that because Gould was a felon, he had no Fourth Amendment rights and that he could be searched without a warrant.
[01:21:36]  It's a very narrow ruling related to specific situation that the officers found themselves in.
[01:21:40]  It's not saying that because a certain group were bad, they are punished, but that's another conclusion you might come to if the extent of your awareness of this case is skimming a drudge headline and being really mad.
[01:21:50]  Also, let's take the guns out of the equation.
[01:21:53]  Sure.
[01:21:54]  Let's imagine that the exact same scenario happened and they found a head.
[01:21:59]  Yeah.
[01:22:00]  Then what?
[01:22:02]  Well, I mean, but then, okay.
[01:22:05]  The other thing, though, is then imagine the exact same scenario, but they found weed.
[01:22:10]  Then what?
[01:22:11]  Right.
[01:22:12]  You know?
[01:22:12]  So the problem here is, again, it's actually guns.
[01:22:16]  The problem is guns.
[01:22:17]  You shouldn't have guns.
[01:22:18]  For Alex.
[01:22:19]  For me.
[01:22:20]  For you.
[01:22:21]  They shouldn't be going into your shit.
[01:22:24]  Absolutely, I'm fine with that.
[01:22:25]  But if there are guns there, well shit, I'm not gonna say don't go get those fucking guns!
[01:22:32]  But if they go get weed, you're fucking, what are you doing?
[01:22:35]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:22:36]  I don't know if I fully agree with you.
[01:22:38]  I do think that if you, there should be degrees.
[01:22:43]  I would say that if you're doing a protective sweep in a situation where you fear for your life and you see weed, it shouldn't rise to the level of like, We need to consider this as part of the search.
[01:22:55]  Right.
[01:22:56]  Should is a very heavy word in that sentence.
[01:22:59]  If it's a violent felon and there are guns, and you're going there because he's allegedly planning to kill judges, then there's extenuating and surrounding circumstances that make that more of a thing.
[01:23:11]  It's not necessarily just you see a gun and you've got to take it seriously.
[01:23:15]  It's the circumstances.
[01:23:16]  Right, right, right.
[01:23:16]  But here's what I'm saying.
[01:23:18]  I'm asking for Alex's behalf.
[01:23:20]  What if you find a head?
[01:23:23]  Whose head is it?
[01:23:24]  Someone's!
[01:23:25]  I mean, it's not the cop's head, and so it's not really their business, now is it?

=== Info War Noise (15:20) ===

[01:23:29]  Right.
[01:23:30]  Does Alex believe that this person should be protected from this search if they find a head while they're in the house because they got this tip about this guy?
[01:23:41]  And they thought he was in that room.
[01:23:43]  They wanted to make sure they weren't being set up for an ambush.
[01:23:46]  Then they find a head.
[01:23:47]  Then what?
[01:23:48]  Is Alex going to be so precious about this?
[01:23:51]  I find that example so interesting just because I feel like there's got to be so many things that happen before you get to head.
[01:24:00]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:24:03]  What I'm saying is, as far as the cops coming in and searching seizure, the roommate.
[01:24:07]  When the cops talk to the roommate, the roommate's going to be like, His room smells like there's a fucking head in there, you know?
[01:24:13]  There's a lot more going on when it's a head.
[01:24:16]  Right.
[01:24:17]  Don't...
[01:24:17]  Guns are quiet and they don't make a noise or smell.
[01:24:20]  Don't messy the table that I'm presenting this meal on.
[01:24:23]  Don't get lost in the weeds.
[01:24:26]  Sorry, now I'm in the mood of like, what if I found a head in my...
[01:24:30]  I'm trying to delineate that this is about guns for Alex, not about the reality of...
[01:24:37]  The nature of this.
[01:24:40]  Absolutely.
[01:24:41]  Well, that's why we could have a very interesting conversation about this very specific ruling, but Alex can absolutely not.
[01:24:48]  Probably not.
[01:24:49]  No.
[01:24:49]  So, Paul believes that the context that's added to this article is just bullshit justification.
[01:24:59]  Sure.
[01:25:00]  And this dynamic between Alex and him, I think, is really fascinating.
[01:25:03]  Yeah, in the original article.
[01:25:06]  This is why they did it.
[01:25:07]  In the original article, the original article simply stated the court case.
[01:25:11]  They didn't go into the details.
[01:25:13]  They simply said, due to this lawsuit, they now have the provision to go in your home without a warrant.
[01:25:19]  They didn't give the justification that this guy was threatening to kill people.
[01:25:24]  So then that justifies it in the minds of the sheeple out there.
[01:25:27]  But yes, they've gone in and changed the article to the effect.
[01:25:31]  Where they've removed the dissenting judge's comment.
[01:25:35]  I mean, how do the cops sit there sucking their thumbs and go, I want the old lady's stun gun now that I've gotten her gun, because I'm not safe, because one of the sheep has something to defend themselves.
[01:25:44]  I mean, they want everything we've got, and then the federal courts and state courts say the police have no liability to protect us, and every cop listening knows that.
[01:25:53]  And I don't expect you to protect me.
[01:25:55]  You can't.
[01:25:55]  Why do you even want my stun gun now?
[01:25:58]  And you want to be able to come to my house without a warrant?
[01:26:00]  You destroyed this country!
[01:26:02]  You made me sick, you cowardly filth!
[01:26:06]  And again, as we've covered before, it's the gradualism from the public servant, from the police officer.
[01:26:12]  Paul, I love this country so much.
[01:26:13]  What is it like for you to watch your country being destroyed and watching your police being turned into goons?
[01:26:19]  Go ahead and say what you're about to say.
[01:26:21]  So, I just, I find this so interesting.
[01:26:24]  First of all, the adding of context to an article is somehow a cover-up or a justifying of the...
[01:26:34]  It's very bizarre, but I do believe that it exists because context is the enemy of Infowars.
[01:26:40]  And so, for them, it is always a nefarious thing to add context to...
[01:26:45]  To understand the situations that they're actually talking about.
[01:26:48]  But more interesting to me is this two-man team thing where Paul is trying to just be kind of a straight news person and give his British accent very calm and Alex is faking these emotional outbursts.
[01:27:04]  Yeah.
[01:27:05]  Like going back and forth.
[01:27:07]  There's something very intentional about it that is...
[01:27:11]  I find it...
[01:27:16]  Unappealing to listen to, but I can understand why someone might have gotten something out of it.
[01:27:20]  Like, there's the catharsis of Alex.
[01:27:22]  Sure.
[01:27:22]  And then there's the bringing you back to feeling like you're listening to something grounded and rational when Paul comes in.
[01:27:28]  Right.
[01:27:28]  And then Alex gets you excited again, and then Paul has a little bit of information, and then Alex is like...
[01:27:33]  Right.
[01:27:35]  You're describing us, but fake.
[01:27:37]  You're describing fake, lying versions of us doing our show poorly.
[01:27:42]  Yeah, maybe.
[01:27:42]  Yeah, maybe.
[01:27:43]  That might be it.
[01:27:45]  If we were full of shit, yes, we would be a less interesting version of us.
[01:27:50]  And I need a British accent.
[01:27:52]  And if I were faking all of my emotional outbursts.
[01:27:55]  Oi!
[01:27:56]  Piece of piss!
[01:27:57]  Is that good?
[01:28:00]  I don't know.
[01:28:01]  Is this a real app?
[01:28:04]  Oh, boy.
[01:28:06]  So a caller calls in.
[01:28:08]  Alex gets another call.
[01:28:09]  Yeah.
[01:28:09]  And this doesn't go great.
[01:28:11]  Uh-oh.
[01:28:12]  Let's talk to Kurt in Colorado.
[01:28:14]  Kurt, go ahead.
[01:28:15]  Hey, good afternoon, Alex, Paul.
[01:28:16]  You know, I think the biggest problem is you guys are fighting from inside the tax-slave labor camp already.
[01:28:22]  Ooh, I like that.
[01:28:24]  But you were mentioning about the Bill of Rights, and I come to the realization 15 years ago that it's not a guarantee.
[01:28:30]  It's only a yardstick to measure government tyranny.
[01:28:33]  They're not going to allow us to be free.
[01:28:35]  Unless we stand up and say, no, possession's not intents of the law.
[01:28:39]  I claim my freedom.
[01:28:40]  I take it.
[01:28:40]  I'm not your slave.
[01:28:42]  But you can't, because I think you misunderstand what the Second Amendment says.
[01:28:46]  And, I mean, just for clarification, what do you think the Second Amendment says?
[01:28:50]  Well, I know what the Federalist Papers say.
[01:28:52]  I know what the court rulings have said over the past 225, 27 years.
[01:28:57]  It's to defend against tyranny.
[01:28:59]  I have a God-given right, as the Ninth Amendment says.
[01:29:01]  All of those are just simply pointing out rights that I already have.
[01:29:05]  Well, but the point I'm trying to make is they always digress to firearms, and they're basically antique.
[01:29:12]  Weapons.
[01:29:12]  No, firearm is the definition of any type of rifle or handgun that uses powder.
[01:29:17]  Right, and it doesn't say firearms.
[01:29:19]  It says arms.
[01:29:19]  Oh, for God's sake.
[01:29:20]  That's right.
[01:29:20]  All types of arms.
[01:29:22]  Hey, buddy, I appreciate your call.
[01:29:25]  I can tell you're off on all the law stuff with all these groups who've got all the magic bullets and the rest of it.
[01:29:31]  It's a fight.
[01:29:32]  It's humanity.
[01:29:33]  They said slavery was the law.
[01:29:34]  We stood up and said no to it.
[01:29:36]  We're going to say no to this and we're going to win.
[01:29:38]  Did we?
[01:29:39]  Yeah, you were Confederate royalty, buddy.
[01:29:41]  You're your ancestors, buddy.
[01:29:42]  We is a...
[01:29:43]  Your ancestors fought for the Confederacy.
[01:29:45]  You are fighting for the Confederacy.
[01:29:48]  At length.
[01:29:49]  Calm down.
[01:29:49]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:29:50]  But yeah, I wonder exactly what Alex knew that caller was about to bring up that he didn't want to deal with.
[01:29:57]  I imagine it's some kind of sovereign citizenry shit.
[01:29:59]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:30:01]  But I'm not entirely sure.
[01:30:03]  I'm not familiar with whatever code Alex picked up on.
[01:30:06]  But I was like, man, come on.
[01:30:08]  Let him speak his piece.
[01:30:09]  This is going to go bad.
[01:30:10]  Yeah, I want to hear Tubal Kane.
[01:30:12]  That's what I got, you know?
[01:30:13]  Or it's just going to piss Alex off so much.
[01:30:15]  Yeah, that'd be fun.
[01:30:15]  I want to hear Alex justify his own Second Amendment nonsense against an adversarial person.
[01:30:22]  Oh, God.
[01:30:22]  I don't really hear that too often.
[01:30:25]  Usually it's just him defending it against ghosts and imaginary enemies.
[01:30:29]  And fake legislation that died in committee.
[01:30:33]  Anyway, get another caller.
[01:30:36]  This guy, by his claim, heard about this case, saw the article, called the Drudge Report, so may have been...
[01:30:46]  Called Drudge himself!
[01:30:47]  Well, emailed him.
[01:30:48]  Yeah, whatever.
[01:30:49]  He may have been the person responsible for getting this story out onto the Drudge Report and therefore getting it onto Infowars.
[01:30:57]  Oh, shit.
[01:30:57]  This is royalty.
[01:30:58]  And so this guy did a little bit more legwork.
[01:31:01]  Okay.
[01:31:01]  He went ahead and called the paper and shit.
[01:31:03]  Oh, my God.
[01:31:04]  Sean, go ahead.
[01:31:06]  Yes, Alex.
[01:31:09]  What's even better is that I was listening to the show this morning and...
[01:31:15]  Paul, I believe it is, mentioned that they had rewritten the article and removed the quote from the dissenting justices that, you know, it's the road to hell.
[01:31:22]  So I called News Channel 6 back up, and I reminded them about my call this past Saturday.
[01:31:30]  You're doing the journalism forum.
[01:31:31]  You actually got them to go look up the case.
[01:31:35]  Yeah, I guess so.
[01:31:36]  I guess I reminded him that if you're going to talk about a case, it's kind of important to let us know which one it is.
[01:31:41]  Yeah, U.S. versus Gould, yeah.
[01:31:42]  Yeah, Alex.
[01:31:43]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:31:44]  Way to go, man.
[01:31:45]  This is the first time you've said that this entire show.
[01:31:47]  This is like three hours and 40 minutes into the show.
[01:31:49]  It's the first time he's said those words.
[01:31:51]  I feel a little resentfulness coming from him about that, too.
[01:31:54]  A little bit of like, way to go.
[01:31:56]  Way to ruin my fun on this.
[01:31:58]  Way to make them add all that shit.
[01:31:59]  Yeah, so this guy had called the paper, and that was a legend.
[01:32:04]  According to him, it was what precipitated them adding this, quote, justifying, this phony justification of the information about the court case into the article, which is fascinating on some level.
[01:32:15]  It is.
[01:32:16]  Because Paul should be telling him, hey, why'd you do that?
[01:32:19]  That's what I was thinking.
[01:32:20]  That's why I hear that in Alex's voice a little bit of just like...
[01:32:24]  Oh, yeah.
[01:32:25]  Way to make sure they have the fucking case going.
[01:32:27]  Good job.
[01:32:29]  Good stuff.
[01:32:30]  Way to add context to stuff that makes it more difficult for me to play my games.
[01:32:34]  Yeah.
[01:32:34]  Yeah, it is always hard for them, especially when it comes to legal stuff, because everybody kind of instinctively knows that context is really important.
[01:32:42]  Sure.
[01:32:42]  You know?
[01:32:43]  Oh, it is.
[01:32:44]  Yes, you're right.
[01:32:45]  In this scenario, I don't think they should do that.
[01:32:48]  And in this scenario, I think they should do that.
[01:32:50]  Well, as we all know, possession.
[01:32:53]  Yeah.
[01:32:53]  Nine-tenths.
[01:32:55]  Circumstance.
[01:32:56]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:32:58]  People are also bad at estimating.
[01:33:01]  Fractions.
[01:33:02]  Yeah.
[01:33:03]  Possession is, I would say, at least maybe one-third?
[01:33:07]  I don't even know what one-third of the law means.
[01:33:10]  Exactly.
[01:33:10]  So we have one last clip here, and it's the same caller, and he's complaining about them removing the quote from the judges in the revised article.
[01:33:22]  And anyway, I asked him, I said, you know, I was kind of curious in the rewriting of your story why it is that now the new version of the story is soft-peddling the dissent and that you've removed the opinion of the dissenting justices that this decision is the road to hell.
[01:33:40]  And I quickly got transferred to the webmaster.
[01:33:44]  And I asked the webmaster the same question.
[01:33:47]  You got a little bit upset that one of the sheep was calling in and bleeding, I guess.
[01:33:52]  I got one that can see she was reporting.
[01:33:55]  Yeah, and after the same question, she said, well, you know, it wasn't a direct quote.
[01:34:00]  We've got a link to the published opinion.
[01:34:04]  I'm like, well, yes, ma 'am, but that's 64 pages of legal mumbo-jumbo.
[01:34:08]  Do you honestly expect people to wade through that?
[01:34:11]  They just want to hear a judge say hell.
[01:34:13]  salient point that the dissenting justices referred to this decision as the road to hell.
[01:34:18]  It's not often you'll hear a dissenting justice get that vehement.
[01:34:21]  By the way, Paul, you need to get that decision and take it, because you know they'll take it down later, copy it, and kind of make a section on this.
[01:34:29]  Can you do that?
[01:34:30]  Certainly.
[01:34:31]  So it sounds like the webmaster had a very sensible reason for their edits.
[01:34:35]  It wasn't a direct quote, and the article links to the decision.
[01:34:39]  Plus, the updated article still includes the, quote, road to hell is paved with good intentions thing, so it's not fully excised.
[01:34:45]  And here's an important point.
[01:34:46]  What this caller's demanding the media do is dumb down their coverage and turn it into soundbites so it's more digestible to the average person.
[01:34:53]  That might be a good strategy for getting stuff out to as wide an audience as possible, but that's not what the Infowars is supposed to be about.
[01:35:00]  Alex is supposed to be about getting into the weeds and reading the documents.
[01:35:03]  He has all the white papers and legislation and all that shit.
[01:35:06]  He's a wonk.
[01:35:07]  Yeah, a 60-something page court decision is nothing.
[01:35:10]  The info war is about the raw material, so what this guy is saying, in effect, is that the average person is too stupid or lazy to read and understand the court decision, so the press needs to make a blurb for them so they can get it.
[01:35:21]  I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I do know that I think this is Partially strategic, at least.
[01:35:27]  Alex and his ilk can't spread their information except in the form of yelling and dumbed-down blurbs.
[01:35:32]  Anything past surface level and all of it falls apart completely.
[01:35:36]  They know that in order for this story to spread effectively with the spin that they want it to have, that road to hell thing is pretty important.
[01:35:43]  They can say the Fourth Amendment is being taken away, but they say stuff like that all the time, so that's going to be background noise.
[01:35:49]  But if you can fancy it up with some hell talk, that's a little bit of extra flair that's going to be able to draw in some eyes.
[01:35:55]  That's why you see Alex hitting that beat so hard in this episode.
[01:35:58]  These guys are complaining about the piece being edited, not because they actually think there's some kind of journalistic cover-up going on, but because clarifying this and making it less sensational hurts their ability to exploit this story.
[01:36:10]  Also, you can see the kind of preparation Alex did for this episode.
[01:36:13]  He didn't even go get the actual ruling.
[01:36:14]  He hasn't read this, and for some reason he thinks the globalists are going to have it taken down to hide it from the public.
[01:36:19]  It's fucking absurd.
[01:36:20]  He does nothing.
[01:36:21]  Yeah.
[01:36:22]  Yeah, if you think about it, I mean, obviously their enemy is people knowing the truth.
[01:36:29]  Of course.
[01:36:30]  Alex's?
[01:36:30]  Yeah.
[01:36:31]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:36:31]  But I mean, one of the larger ones is just time.
[01:36:34]  Just time, period.
[01:36:35]  Of just like, if people have to spend...
[01:36:38]  30 seconds as opposed to 10 seconds reading an article.
[01:36:42]  That is less time that we can override them emotionally.
[01:36:47]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:36:48]  Emotion happens instantly.
[01:36:49]  So I want them to read, we're on the road to hell!
[01:36:52]  And then come to me.
[01:36:53]  Immediately.
[01:36:54]  I don't want them to read, here's the case, here's what happened, here's the story, here's the whole thing.
[01:37:00]  You have to read, read and comprehension.
[01:37:02]  And then come to me.
[01:37:03]  It's work.
[01:37:04]  That your brain is doing to understand, okay, what happened?
[01:37:08]  Why were decisions made in a certain way?
[01:37:10]  That is a bad road to the info war.
[01:37:13]  Yeah!
[01:37:14]  You're exactly right.
[01:37:15]  The road to hell.
[01:37:17]  Your rights are taken away.
[01:37:18]  Your government's going to be in your house randomly checking you.
[01:37:21]  There's no warrants anymore.
[01:37:23]  That is the route to the Infowar.
[01:37:25]  And they need to preserve that path as well as they can whenever they can.
[01:37:29]  And that's essentially what they're upset about.
[01:37:31]  Yeah, I mean, it is both strategic and also necessity to make everything a soundbite.
[01:37:37]  Yeah.
[01:37:38]  Meanwhile, complaining about how the media does that.
[01:37:41]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:37:41]  Which, to be fair...
[01:37:43]  That is a fair critique of the media.
[01:37:45]  If it didn't work, we wouldn't all be doing it.
[01:37:47]  It's a fair critique of the media, but it's just hollow coming from Alex.
[01:37:51]  So, anyway...
[01:37:53]  I have a hard out, so we gotta get out of here.
[01:37:55]  We gotta go!
[01:37:55]  But this episode, I enjoy these trips to the past much more, and I think, I don't know, I think I might want to stay in the past for a while.
[01:38:04]  Maybe to the end of the year, because honestly, it's been a shit month, and I prefer these things where there's meat on the bones, where there's something actual to talk about, there's something interesting.
[01:38:17]  As opposed to demons and blah, blah, blah.
[01:38:20]  I hate people.
[01:38:21]  I hate various groups.
[01:38:22]  Who cares?
[01:38:23]  I mean, not who cares, but in terms of listening to it over and over again, it doesn't charm.
[01:38:30]  I mean, I think one of the simplest things we do is it seems like everybody's giving Alex a lot of attention in the present, and what we do is often just go, okay, well then, you guys have your fun.

=== Woo, Yeah, Woo! (00:57) ===

[01:38:42]  We'll go elsewhere.
[01:38:44]  The excitement of him being on Twitter and all that already feels like it's dying down a little bit.
[01:38:50]  So that's great.
[01:38:51]  But whatever the decision is, we'll be back for another episode.
[01:38:56]  But until then, we have a website.
[01:38:58]  Indeed we do.
[01:38:59]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[01:39:00]  Yep, we're also technically on Twitter, but...
[01:39:04]  We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark.
[01:39:07]  I feel boxed in by this bit, and I now have begun presenting it.
[01:39:12]  I am free.
[01:39:13]  I look forward to reading the Declaration of Independence from this bit.
[01:39:19]  Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
[01:39:21]  And now here comes the sex robot.
[01:39:23]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[01:39:25]  Thanks for holding.
[01:39:27]  Hello, Alex.
[01:39:28]  I'm a first-time caller.
[01:39:29]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:39:30]  I love your work.