Knowledge Fight - #861: October 18, 2023
Aired: 2023-10-20
Duration: 01:43:26


=== Survive the Raft (09:29) ===

[00:00:16]  Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating.
[00:00:19]  Knowledgepight.com.
[00:00:20]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:21]  I have great respect for knowledge fight.
[00:00:24]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:25]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
[00:00:27]  Shang me are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge and fight.
[00:00:30]  Dan and Jordan.
[00:00:31]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:35]  I need money.
[00:00:39]  Andy and Pansy.
[00:00:40]  Andy and Pandy.
[00:00:42]  Stop it.
[00:00:43]  Andy and Pansy.
[00:00:43]  Andy and Pansy.
[00:00:46]  Andy.
[00:00:46]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:47]  Andy and Kansas, you're on the airplane for holding us.
[00:00:49]  Hello, Alex.
[00:00:50]  I'm a fish ten colour here saying, I love your room.
[00:00:53]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:55]  Knowledgefight.com.
[00:00:58]  I love you.
[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody.
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:01]  We're a couple dudes.
[00:01:02]  Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:06]  Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
[00:01:07]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Dan.
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:09]  Quick question for you.
[00:01:09]  What's up?
[00:01:10]  What's your bright spot today, buddy?
[00:01:11]  My bright spot today is a shout-down.
[00:01:13]  A shout-down.
[00:01:14]  Yes, not a shout-out.
[00:01:17]  Definitely not up.
[00:01:17]  No.
[00:01:18]  Uh-oh.
[00:01:18]  Down.
[00:01:19]  Down.
[00:01:19]  So I was looking around for something to watch on the Amazon Prime.
[00:01:24]  Sure.
[00:01:24]  Because I was just, I'm out of survivor.
[00:01:27]  I'm out of the challenge.
[00:01:28]  It is what it is.
[00:01:30]  Those are the only options.
[00:01:32]  Exactly.
[00:01:33]  Not true.
[00:01:33]  Not true.
[00:01:35]  I realized at a certain point, I have no idea what happens on Big Brother.
[00:01:42]  I have thought that so many times.
[00:01:45]  Every time I hear of Big Brother, I'm like, it's a spy show, right?
[00:01:48]  I swear to God.
[00:01:49]  I remember the beginning of it, like way back, you know, 20 years ago or whatever.
[00:01:54]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:55]  And I got a sense that it was just people lived in a house and there was a bunch of cameras on them.
[00:02:00]  Right.
[00:02:00]  And then that was it.
[00:02:01]  And then maybe they decided to kick people out periodically if they were assholes.
[00:02:05]  Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[00:02:06]  I didn't know what went on.
[00:02:07]  And so I decided to check it out.
[00:02:08]  Sure.
[00:02:08]  Watch a little bit.
[00:02:09]  What goes on?
[00:02:10]  I mean, it's just a challenge show, basically.
[00:02:14]  But the structure of it is so fucking maddening.
[00:02:16]  Like, I don't understand.
[00:02:17]  There's all kinds of terminology.
[00:02:19]  Like, I'm the head of the house, so I get the big bedroom.
[00:02:22]  Oh, no.
[00:02:23]  I don't even know what.
[00:02:24]  Anyway, I watched like three episodes of it and I said, I'm out.
[00:02:26]  I can't care about this.
[00:02:27]  All right.
[00:02:29]  But so I was looking for something else to watch, and I saw something called Survive the Raft.
[00:02:35]  I thought this is an interesting idea.
[00:02:38]  I don't want to know what show you're talking about.
[00:02:43]  I want to watch the show Survive the Raft that I am writing in my head right now.
[00:02:46]  I will say that it's higher concept than it turns out being.
[00:02:52]  Okay.
[00:02:52]  So the idea is that there was like this experiment in the 70s where this guy named Santiago something.
[00:02:58]  Okay, I love a backstory.
[00:02:59]  He decided that he was going to get people together from all different countries and different beliefs and they were going to go on a fucking raft.
[00:03:06]  The Olympics of rafting.
[00:03:08]  No, but no, nobody gets kicked off.
[00:03:09]  Just to see a social experiment to see if they could get along.
[00:03:12]  Like a we are the world of the raft on the raft.
[00:03:15]  But also with the pressure of being on a raft.
[00:03:18]  You got to survive on that raft, right?
[00:03:21]  I like it.
[00:03:22]  I like the raft.
[00:03:23]  There was that.
[00:03:24]  There was this experiment that happened in the 70s.
[00:03:27]  And so the idea was they're going to recreate this social experiment in the present day with people who have vastly different beliefs and opinions and all of this stuff.
[00:03:37]  What happens when people stop being sort of the raft?
[00:03:41]  It's sort of a real world thing, but it had such a promise of actual confrontation of beliefs and stuff.
[00:03:47]  And then it just turned out to be a shitty survivor.
[00:03:49]  Like they ended up doing weird competitions to bank money for their stuff.
[00:03:54]  Then, at the beginning, there was such a sense that their differences were going to be a problem.
[00:04:00]  Yeah.
[00:04:00]  You know, like there was a guy who, in his testimonial interviews, was complaining about how, like, people can't say anything anymore.
[00:04:07]  Cancel culture.
[00:04:08]  Yeah.
[00:04:09]  But he turned out to not be that bad.
[00:04:11]  Like, he turned out like he kind of just shut up a lot.
[00:04:16]  Sure, sure, sure.
[00:04:17]  Bye did his business was kind of an asshole periodically, but not as bad as you'd think.
[00:04:21]  And other people's, like, they're.
[00:04:23]  Like, there was one lady who's like, I'm a Karen.
[00:04:27]  I watch Fox News.
[00:04:28]  All this stuff.
[00:04:29]  She was fine.
[00:04:30]  Yeah.
[00:04:31]  She didn't get into fights with people.
[00:04:32]  No.
[00:04:33]  It was fine.
[00:04:34]  None of their differences mattered.
[00:04:35]  No, I think a lot of people would be shocked to discover that, you know, as much as we describe ourselves as one thing when we're looking at ourselves through the lens of a camera, when we're in social groups, we're completely, you know, generally speaking, everybody's just like, I want to have a good time in this social group.
[00:04:55]  Yeah, I guess so.
[00:04:55]  Why would I want to fight somebody now?
[00:04:57]  We're on a raft.
[00:04:58]  Because that's the premise of a fucking TV show.
[00:05:00]  Well, but we're on a raft.
[00:05:03]  Now is not the time for fighting about these people.
[00:05:05]  The only tension that even existed throughout any of the show was that there was one lady who was on it who was a vegan, and so she didn't want people fishing.
[00:05:15]  Okay.
[00:05:16]  But it just turned into her kind of like sulking a little bit.
[00:05:19]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:05:20]  Everybody is like, well, we're going to eat fish.
[00:05:22]  And they went out of their way to find mushrooms when they'd go foraging to her.
[00:05:27]  And so I was like, all right, everybody's fine.
[00:05:28]  Hey, let's just remember she's a vegetarian.
[00:05:30]  She doesn't eat fish.
[00:05:31]  So yeah.
[00:05:33]  That's great.
[00:05:33]  The whole show disaster.
[00:05:36]  I mean, but that, again, if you're making a show designed around creating conflict, right?
[00:05:43]  You have to remember to create that conflict.
[00:05:46]  You can't rely on the raft and just different political opinions to do the work for you.
[00:05:52]  I think they thought they were with the money.
[00:05:54]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:05:56]  And then there was a structure where like each episode they'd have a new person come in that could be adopted into their raft, but they'd have to kick somebody else out in order to do it.
[00:06:07]  So there was this tension of like, you know, how do you prioritize?
[00:06:10]  What's happening?
[00:06:11]  On a raft.
[00:06:12]  But like on a raft, like, I'm sorry.
[00:06:15]  I'm unable to not have like Huck Finn there on the whole Missip.
[00:06:20]  What's going on?
[00:06:21]  It's just off the shore of like some island.
[00:06:24]  Oh, okay.
[00:06:25]  So they're not.
[00:06:27]  No, it's even an island that was used in a past season of Survivor.
[00:06:31]  I don't remember what island it was, but yeah, no, terrible.
[00:06:37]  In my mind, if you're on the see, this is why I wanted the show in my head, is because the raft implies that you are moving.
[00:06:45]  They might have been moving a little.
[00:06:47]  It didn't seem like much.
[00:06:48]  Right.
[00:06:49]  I think you're thinking of a barge.
[00:06:51]  I wouldn't mind a barge.
[00:06:52]  I wouldn't mind a survive the barge.
[00:06:54]  I'd watch that.
[00:06:57]  Anyway, what's your bright spot?
[00:06:59]  I think it speaks to where we both are in our mental state that I'm also on reality TV.
[00:07:07]  It's the moon.
[00:07:08]  No, it's the amazing race.
[00:07:10]  Oh, I've caught up with this season.
[00:07:13]  Oh, yeah.
[00:07:13]  Also, yeah.
[00:07:14]  Oh, yeah.
[00:07:15]  I had some chores to do, and so I put it on in the background.
[00:07:19]  You know, I'll tell you this.
[00:07:22]  When you see a show that's gone for 40 years or whatever, you go, ah, there's no way.
[00:07:27]  But that's because they just do it right.
[00:07:29]  You know, they just do it right.
[00:07:30]  It's a simple formula.
[00:07:31]  Maybe you make a little change here or there, but you just don't fuck, don't get in the way of the wacky races.
[00:07:37]  You know, that's what we've all watched amazing races in some form or another.
[00:07:41]  Cartoons did it for, you know, what before we were.
[00:07:45]  They had people running across this country and people would show up in their town and be like, hey, he's walking by.
[00:07:51]  You know, that's it.
[00:07:52]  Like, it's there.
[00:07:53]  And it's a fun thing, too, that you even hear contestants say of like, I traveled vicariously through the show.
[00:07:58]  Oh, totally.
[00:07:58]  So you get to see all these places in the world through their eyes.
[00:08:01]  Oh, I love it.
[00:08:02]  I love it.
[00:08:03]  I was actually going to text you when I was watching it that I was like, hey, I'm checking out The Amazing Race.
[00:08:08]  I forgot how much I miss this goofy bullshit.
[00:08:12]  It's so dumb.
[00:08:13]  Yeah, it is really dumb.
[00:08:15]  There's something to be said for like just pulp.
[00:08:19]  Like just like junk food ass TV.
[00:08:22]  Absolutely.
[00:08:23]  There is nothing that I need to bring to the amazing race.
[00:08:28]  The amazing race brings it all to me.
[00:08:30]  Yeah.
[00:08:30]  Yep.
[00:08:33]  I had some other thought.
[00:08:34]  I forgot what it is.
[00:08:35]  But, oh, I mean, I guess with the Survive the Raft, that could be what that would be.
[00:08:41]  You know, like just junk food TV.
[00:08:43]  Right.
[00:08:43]  But the high concept of it promised to be something so much more that it infuriates me.
[00:08:49]  Yeah.
[00:08:49]  Yeah.
[00:08:49]  I understand.
[00:08:51]  It's tough to pull it off because it's like a novelty ketchup or something like that.
[00:08:58]  You know, where it's like, come on, man.
[00:09:00]  Ketchup is ketchup for a reason.
[00:09:02]  You know, everybody has it for a reason.
[00:09:04]  You can't, like, make it so much better that you're replacing regular ketchup.
[00:09:09]  Ketchup is ketchup.
[00:09:10]  Yeah.
[00:09:10]  Yeah.
[00:09:10]  We got an SJW and a guy who's worried about cancel culture and two racists on a boat.
[00:09:15]  What's going to happen?
[00:09:16]  What's going on?
[00:09:17]  Don't even pitch it that way.
[00:09:18]  Nothing's going to happen.
[00:09:19]  You know that.
[00:09:21]  Come on.
[00:09:23]  They're all going to be on a boat.
[00:09:25]  That's it.
[00:09:26]  That's what's going to happen.
[00:09:27]  They're going to be those people and they're going to be like, ah, hey, how you doing?
[00:09:30]  And that's it.

=== Terrible Shit from the Beginning (03:06) ===

[00:09:31]  They're on a boat.
[00:09:32]  Yeah.
[00:09:32]  Yeah.
[00:09:33]  So I wish I was on a boat.
[00:09:35]  Yeah.
[00:09:35]  Because today we have an episode to go over Jordan.
[00:09:37]  Oh, goddammit.
[00:09:38]  And we're going to be talking about Alex's October 18th episode.
[00:09:42]  Ooh.
[00:09:42]  Present day.
[00:09:43]  Yeah.
[00:09:44]  I feel like you kind of have to.
[00:09:45]  Yeah.
[00:09:46]  So here's the syllabus what's going to happen on this episode.
[00:09:51]  Terrible shit from the beginning.
[00:09:53]  Sure.
[00:09:54]  Just awful.
[00:09:55]  Great.
[00:09:56]  Farce in the middle.
[00:09:58]  We're going to watch Clue?
[00:10:00]  No.
[00:10:01]  Again, I wish.
[00:10:02]  I wish too.
[00:10:03]  That would be great.
[00:10:04]  Just parody, self-parody in the middle.
[00:10:08]  And then at the end, complete bullshit nonsense.
[00:10:10]  All right.
[00:10:10]  So that's kind of the path we have.
[00:10:12]  It's going to not be pleasant, obviously, at the beginning.
[00:10:15]  There's a lot of shit that I would, honestly, everything being equal, I would prefer not to talk about, but it's thrust into our laps, and so we must.
[00:10:23]  Here we are.
[00:10:25]  But there is that dessert of complete bullshit at the end.
[00:10:30]  And then I'll watch the shit.
[00:10:31]  Even the farce is fairly amusing on some level.
[00:10:35]  But before we get down to business on this episode, Jordan, let's say hello to some wonks.
[00:10:39]  Oh, that's a great idea.
[00:10:40]  So first, the Juggalobolist.
[00:10:42]  Thank you so much.
[00:10:43]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:10:45]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:10:46]  Thank you very much.
[00:10:46]  How the fuck did it take this long?
[00:10:48]  I don't know.
[00:10:48]  That's solid.
[00:10:49]  Yep.
[00:10:50]  Next.
[00:10:50]  Good work.
[00:10:51]  Filthy flying monkey who evolved out of a witch's butt.
[00:10:53]  Thank you so much, you're an Iowa policy wonk.
[00:10:55]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:10:56]  Thank you very much.
[00:10:57]  Thank you.
[00:10:57]  Next, Amanda, hey, your husband wants to remind you that it's the Infowars sign.
[00:11:01]  Thank you so much, Uranio Policy Wonk.
[00:11:03]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:11:04]  Thank you very much.
[00:11:05]  Thank you.
[00:11:06]  Next, I named my pet snail Hot Dan the Mustard Man.
[00:11:08]  Thank you so much, Journey Policy Wonk.
[00:11:10]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:11:11]  Thank you very much.
[00:11:12]  That's probably good because I imagine snails have about the lifespan of the year of the mustard.
[00:11:16]  Yeah, yeah, that sounds right.
[00:11:17]  Next, I've been a policy wonk for over a year, and now it feels awkward to ask for a shout-out.
[00:11:21]  Thank you so much, you're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
[00:11:23]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:11:24]  Thank you very much.
[00:11:25]  My you.
[00:11:25]  Next, oh, we got a technocrat.
[00:11:27]  We're already there.
[00:11:28]  Oh, boy.
[00:11:29]  So thank you so much to Drunken Reelier.
[00:11:31]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:11:33]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:11:34]  Four stars.
[00:11:35]  Go home to your mother telling you, brilliant.
[00:11:37]  Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
[00:11:39]  Daddy Shark.
[00:11:40]  Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
[00:11:46]  He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
[00:11:49]  I don't want to hate black people.
[00:11:51]  I renounce Jesus Christ.
[00:11:52]  Thank you so much.
[00:11:53]  I think that is, I think that's actually a video game reference.
[00:11:57]  I think that's like Ryla, or maybe it's a Dungeons and Dragons reference.
[00:12:00]  I thought it was the Cthulhu.
[00:12:02]  Oh, is it?
[00:12:03]  Yeah.
[00:12:04]  Okay.
[00:12:04]  City and Rillier.
[00:12:05]  Yes, he's lies sleeping.
[00:12:07]  Oh, shit.
[00:12:08]  I thought they couldn't remember the.
[00:12:10]  I thought that was a different preamble to the email with that one.
[00:12:14]  It might be.
[00:12:15]  It might be so close.
[00:12:19]  Yeah, it sounds right, though.
[00:12:20]  Nope.

=== Logistical Failures In Response (15:16) ===

[00:12:22]  It is the Relie.
[00:12:23]  It is a sunken city in the South Pacific and the prison of the entity Cthulhu.
[00:12:27]  Ah.
[00:12:28]  So, yep.
[00:12:28]  Yep.
[00:12:29]  But all that Lovecrafty and stuff is so inspired of all the Dungeons and Dragons shit and all this fucking nonsense that you nerds like.
[00:12:38]  Don't ask me.
[00:12:39]  Don't ask me.
[00:12:40]  I didn't do anything.
[00:12:41]  Fair enough.
[00:12:42]  Fair enough.
[00:12:43]  But also, we don't think about that enough.
[00:12:45]  Like how, you know, Cthulhu lies sleeping.
[00:12:48]  Maybe he got drunk.
[00:12:49]  You know, maybe he passed out drunk.
[00:12:52]  I mean, I think that one of the problems that he left out, he left out that El Kabong is the reason that Cthulhu sleeps for so long.
[00:13:03]  El Cabong is the only thing that can counter the elder gods, the great old ones.
[00:13:09]  Absolutely.
[00:13:11]  The mind is clear.
[00:13:15]  He can't be affected by Cthulhu's mind powers.
[00:13:18]  He is El Kabong.
[00:13:19]  He has one goal in life.
[00:13:21]  His purity of thought and of mind made animated.
[00:13:27]  Made guitar-based animated.
[00:13:28]  Yeah, I'm sure.
[00:13:29]  Okay, so whatever.
[00:13:30]  Stop wasting time.
[00:13:31]  Okay.
[00:13:31]  I don't want to get into this.
[00:13:32]  Okay, fine.
[00:13:33]  Obviously, there was the explosion at the hospital in Gaza, which is the chief focus of the beginning of this.
[00:13:41]  Great.
[00:13:42]  And Alex is coverage of it is surprisingly bad.
[00:13:47]  Yeah.
[00:13:47]  And that's not to say that it's surprising that it is bad.
[00:13:50]  No, it's bad in a surprising way.
[00:13:52]  Yep.
[00:13:52]  Gotcha.
[00:13:53]  I call it like I see it.
[00:13:54]  And I don't like agreeing with Biden because he lies almost all the time.
[00:13:57]  But I agree with him that I don't think Israel bombed that hospital in Gaza Strip.
[00:14:04]  In fact, the hospital was not bombed.
[00:14:07]  But we've seen riots and protests around the world on the lie that it was hit by an Israeli missile or bomb, and it turns out that the parking lot was hit by a missile.
[00:14:17]  And we have all this footage from independent news stations showing Hamas firing a bunch of missiles from a graveyard a couple hundred yards away, and one of the missiles fails and falls on the parking lot.
[00:14:35]  And it's confirmed that the hospital was not hit.
[00:14:37]  Some of the windows got blown out.
[00:14:39]  So a giant lie.
[00:14:41]  But remember, the mainstream media all picked it up and went with it before the fires were even out.
[00:14:47]  Here's a fun exercise.
[00:14:48]  Imagine if someone blew up a bomb in the parking lot of InfoWars.
[00:14:52]  You think Alex would say, ah, it's just the parking lot?
[00:14:54]  It's the parking lot.
[00:14:56]  I think he probably wouldn't.
[00:14:57]  Well, I mean, he's going to have a struggle parking, but beyond that, he's fine.
[00:15:00]  As of the recording of this episode, I don't know exactly what happened as it relates to the explosion at the Al-Hali Baptist Hospital, and neither does Alex.
[00:15:09]  He's pretending that he's seen all this evidence, like visually seeing an errant rocket being launched from this graveyard near the hospital, but he absolutely has not.
[00:15:18]  He's heard that claim being made, and he's repeating it because it fits his preferred storyline.
[00:15:23]  If there were actually publicly available video that demonstrated this fully, it would be a lot less of an open question as to what really happened.
[00:15:32]  In the very volatile information climate that Elon Musk has made worse since taking over Twitter, it's almost impossible to vet truth from fiction.
[00:15:39]  And tons of fake video purporting to be the rockets being launched have been circulating and traveling widely before they're debunked, by which point the damage is already done and confusion spreads like wildfire.
[00:15:50]  To make matters worse, the Israeli ambassador to the United States, Michael Herzog, posted and then deleted a post on Twitter containing a video purporting to be of the rockets being launched.
[00:15:59]  It was deleted after Eric Toler of the New York Times pointed out that there were issues with the timestamp of the footage, and it didn't match up with when the explosion would have occurred.
[00:16:07]  That's not good.
[00:16:08]  None of this is to say that it's definite that Israeli did it or if it was the fault of a group like Hamas.
[00:16:14]  The popular group to point the finger at from what I'm reading is Islamic Jihad, who have said that they didn't do it.
[00:16:20]  Terrorist groups generally like to take responsibility for their terrorist acts, but when it's killing tons of people at a hospital, that's not really going to be their play.
[00:16:28]  So I don't know what to make of any statements that anybody is making.
[00:16:32]  The bottom line is that over 400 people were killed, and it's a profound human tragedy, regardless of what the circumstances are.
[00:16:38]  I do not know exactly who's responsible for this particular incident, but we do know that Israel has been constantly bombing civilian areas in Gaza, even areas that they claimed would be safe if Palestinians fled to them.
[00:16:50]  The death toll is hard to gauge at this point with the chaos, but it'll undoubtedly be in the thousands.
[00:16:55]  Between the bombs and the people starving with no food or water, trapped in a war zone, the picture is very bleak for civilians in this circumstance.
[00:17:03]  To the extent that the explosion happened in a parking lot, it was a courtyard of the hospital where there were parking spaces.
[00:17:09]  An explosion around a bunch of cars isn't necessarily a lesser worry since those things have explosive gas in them.
[00:17:15]  Also, it's important to understand that people in Gaza are displaced, and many are seeking shelter wherever they can find places that appear to be safe.
[00:17:22]  The dean of St. George's College in Jerusalem told the BBC that there were 1,000 people sheltering in the courtyard when the explosions happened.
[00:17:30]  Pointing to limited structural damage to the buildings and the limited number of pictures Alex has seen on social media means nothing in terms of the scale of this human tragedy.
[00:17:38]  And he's playing fucking games, and it is unacceptable.
[00:17:42]  Yeah.
[00:17:43]  But what do you expect?
[00:17:44]  It didn't happen.
[00:17:45]  It was a parking lot.
[00:17:47]  I don't know.
[00:17:50]  Man.
[00:17:52]  Surprising.
[00:17:58]  I was expecting false flag.
[00:17:59]  I was expecting, you know, and I mean, I get false flag kind of.
[00:18:04]  I kind of get there.
[00:18:07]  But I really wasn't expecting just like, eh, it was a fucking parking lot.
[00:18:11]  Who cares?
[00:18:11]  That I was not expecting.
[00:18:13]  He's later going to say that the deaths are fake, too.
[00:18:15]  Okay, well, there we go.
[00:18:16]  Yeah, that I expected.
[00:18:17]  It's real bad.
[00:18:18]  That I expect.
[00:18:18]  Yeah, he's real, real bad today.
[00:18:21]  So he also doesn't like the idea that there are protests that are happening.
[00:18:25]  Sure.
[00:18:26]  So here's that.
[00:18:28]  White House got surrounded.
[00:18:30]  The barriers got knocked down.
[00:18:32]  Police got attacked.
[00:18:34]  But it's not being called the greatest attack since Pearl Harbor, like they called January 6th.
[00:18:40]  Huge demonstrations in Dallas, Texas.
[00:18:42]  Huge demonstrations in Greece.
[00:18:44]  Riots in Greece.
[00:18:44]  Riots across Europe.
[00:18:46]  All sorts of shootings and stabbings that get buried in the news.
[00:18:52]  Huge numbers of people, in some cases, millions, hit in the streets in different Arab countries and also in Persia, Iran, instantly attacking the Israeli embassies around the world.
[00:19:09]  And again, I'm calling it like I see it.
[00:19:11]  Israel stood down 110% seven hours before any response.
[00:19:16]  Attack helicopters by the hundreds were five to ten minutes away.
[00:19:23]  Five attack helicopters, and I've talked to military experts.
[00:19:27]  They concluded that my novice assumption was correct, that five loaded helicopters could have taken out those Hezbollah fighters, Hamas, Hezbollah back fighters.
[00:19:41]  So I'm calling it like I see it.
[00:19:43]  You know, Charlie Kirk did that too.
[00:19:44]  A lot of people have, they're calling him anti-Semitic.
[00:19:47]  I'm just going to report what we believe is most accurate.
[00:19:52]  It's clear Israel did not bomb that hospital.
[00:19:54]  It's clear Israel stood down and let the attack happen.
[00:19:57]  So Alex is saying, I call it like I see it a lot on this episode.
[00:20:00]  Like it's his new get or done.
[00:20:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:02]  Very upsetting.
[00:20:04]  I don't think he does either.
[00:20:06]  No.
[00:20:06]  I don't think he does.
[00:20:07]  Actually, I think he does somewhat in as much as if you translate it to, I don't prepare.
[00:20:14]  You know, I call it like I see it.
[00:20:15]  I shoot from the hip.
[00:20:16]  Sure.
[00:20:17]  I just say whatever's on the tip of my mind.
[00:20:19]  Then it's kind of accurate.
[00:20:20]  Maybe.
[00:20:21]  There were protests at the White House, but they didn't storm the Capitol and no one shit on Jim Jordan's desk or whoever's going to end up being speaker.
[00:20:28]  Alex can calm down with this shit because this is the game that he's playing.
[00:20:32]  On the one hand, he wants to minimize the actions of him and his extremist buddies because he knows that if we as a society take what they did and what they stand for seriously, they will be in jail very quickly.
[00:20:43]  But the second thing he wants to do is paint any protest carried out by groups he doesn't like as some kind of terror.
[00:20:48]  That's why groups of supporters of Palestinians are compared to January 6th for just protesting here in the United States.
[00:20:54]  Now, granted, any attacks on Israeli embassies, they would not categorize in the same batch.
[00:21:02]  There was somebody who was stabbed at the Chinese embassy, the Israeli embassy in China.
[00:21:07]  And so, like, that's not the same thing, but people gathering and like protesting for Palestinian rights.
[00:21:13]  Right.
[00:21:13]  That's not, that's not.
[00:21:14]  Alex would call that in and of itself terror.
[00:21:17]  Yeah, I wouldn't do that.
[00:21:19]  I would recommend people don't do that.
[00:21:21]  It's a bad idea.
[00:21:22]  One, believe me, people have protested in the past.
[00:21:26]  Hasn't done it for Palestine up to this point.
[00:21:30]  You're just getting yourself a giant target on your back.
[00:21:32]  Terrible idea.
[00:21:34]  So Alex, he needs to get the heat off himself and his buddies and also paint all alternative protest as terrorism.
[00:21:42]  So like that with Palestinians.
[00:21:43]  It's why he also calls Black Lives Matter protests riots constantly.
[00:21:47]  If you're on the opposite side of Alex, you don't have free speech and protest rights in his eyes, but he knows that he can't say it that way without abandoning his branding about loving the Constitution.
[00:21:56]  So this is the way that he gets around that.
[00:21:58]  There are some questions about the timeline of Israeli military response to various areas where citizens were under threat, but nothing that I've seen so far has convinced me of an actual standdown happening.
[00:22:09]  What's key to understand is that this is Alex's new way of saying false flag.
[00:22:14]  He's learned since Sandy Hook that if he goes on the full-on hoax manufactured event angle, he ends up getting himself in trouble.
[00:22:20]  There's too many implications that come from those narratives that he doesn't want to deal with, which is why the stand down accusation is perfect.
[00:22:27]  You see him do this in situations where he previously would have had a lot more elaborate crisis actors or hoax type narratives, like in the case of Parkland and the Uvalde shootings.
[00:22:37]  Another reason this accusation works perfectly for Alex is that sometimes responses don't go as smoothly as people think they should because of logistical issues and human error.
[00:22:47]  Alex's storyline gives a nicely bundled explanation for all of that, which allows the audience to maintain their illusions about the infallibility of the system.
[00:22:55]  This response only went bad because the globalists demanded it go bad is a childish, painfully childish way to engage with complicated systems.
[00:23:04]  As it relates to the events of October 7th, Israel hasn't spoken on the matter, but there are a bunch of factors that could explain some of the delayed response.
[00:23:12]  To be fair, there was an immediate response, a fairly immediate response, but there were areas that didn't get cleared for hours after, and that's what Alex is trying to use to his advantage.
[00:23:22]  One issue is that it was a national holiday in Israel, so there's a chance that manpower or response time could have been hindered by that.
[00:23:29]  In addition, Hamas sent drones to disrupt Israeli military's communication channels, so there's a possibility that that created a period where word was not able to be sent in an efficient manner.
[00:23:40]  There's also the factor of underestimating the threat from Hamas and shifting their manpower to the West Bank.
[00:23:46]  A retired Israeli major general told the New York Times, quote, the thinning of forces seemed reasonable because of the construction of the fence and the aura that created around it, as if it were invincible, that nothing would be able to pass it.
[00:23:59]  Another operational failure that the Times discusses is the, quote, clustering of leaders from the army's Gaza division in a single location along the border.
[00:24:07]  Hamas was able to overtake this base, and then the ability to create a coordinated response to what was unfolding was severely impaired.
[00:24:14]  The people tasked with being ready to make a counterattack had been killed, injured, or taken hostage.
[00:24:19]  And the Israeli military officials who were coming in to take over were coming in from other places, and they weren't as prepared as they would have wanted to be.
[00:24:26]  Things were posted on social media that depicted a major event immediately, but this was not at all well communicated through military channels because of the factors mentioned.
[00:24:35]  So while it is true that there may have been air power stationed mere minutes of flight away, the people who would have been able to utilize that correctly were incapacitated, and the communications needed to convey the gravity of the situation were not at their full power.
[00:24:49]  The extent to which each of these factors played a role in the intelligence and response failure is a matter for study, and I'm sure we'll learn more about that in the coming months.
[00:24:56]  However, for Alex, all this is really fucking simple.
[00:24:59]  It was a stand down, and it needs to be for him to avoid the complexity of reality and keep his audience in their infantile fear bubble that he profits off of.
[00:25:08]  It's just ridiculous.
[00:25:09]  It's a disrespect to just the complexities of life, honestly.
[00:25:17]  Yeah.
[00:25:18]  Yeah.
[00:25:20]  Man, this is off to a great start.
[00:25:23]  I told you there's a farce coming.
[00:25:25]  I'm doing great.
[00:25:26]  This is going good.
[00:25:29]  We're handling it.
[00:25:30]  Well, I think, I mean, I texted you about like, ah, this is not great.
[00:25:35]  Yeah.
[00:25:35]  You know, and stuff.
[00:25:36]  And part of the reason is a lot of this stuff is not really even becoming of a response.
[00:25:44]  Yeah.
[00:25:44]  Like, I think that Alex saying 110% the Israelis, the Israeli government had a stand down.
[00:25:51]  Fuck you, man.
[00:25:52]  Yeah.
[00:25:53]  Like, what do you, you can't, you can't prove any of this.
[00:25:55]  You can be like, it must have been, and that's your argument, great.
[00:26:00]  Nothing.
[00:26:01]  And then there was a bombing in a parking lot instead of a hospital.
[00:26:06]  Like, that's just disrespectful and awful.
[00:26:10]  Yeah, I can understand why it's just not good so far for you.
[00:26:15]  Yeah, I think one of the specific problems here is that unlike with, I mean, most, most, most wars, I suppose, is it's such a contained area and it's all controlled by one point of view.
[00:26:33]  You know, it is the Israeli ability.
[00:26:37]  It is that like complete complete power imbalance of like you don't know what's going on inside there.
[00:26:48]  And we can't.
[00:26:49]  And we cannot because they won't allow independent voice or independent eyes in there.
[00:26:55]  And it's only made worse by the systems of social media that we've relied on for the quick dissemination of information being completely rotten.
[00:27:04]  Yeah, this is one of the, I mean, maybe actually I would say this is the first time that I truly do not believe anyone.
[00:27:15]  You know, I definitely don't know what I don't know.
[00:27:18]  Exactly.
[00:27:18]  And I'm not saying I necessarily don't believe anyone, but it's very hard to feel confident about a lot of information that's that's available.

=== Unable to See Conflict (00:52) ===

[00:27:26]  And not because I believe people are lying to me.
[00:27:28]  Some people are lying to me, of course, maliciously.
[00:27:31]  And I believe some people are just telling what they know in the moment, which is not going to be correct, which is fine.
[00:27:39]  That happens.
[00:27:40]  There's some people with benign misunderstandings or misinterpretations have the same effect as malicious lying.
[00:27:46]  And because Israel can completely control not the narrative coming from there, but our ability to actually see it, which for the first time since cameras have existed, really, have we been this unable to see at all what's going on in such a major conflict, you know?

=== Harvard Mafia Revelations (03:50) ===

[00:28:07]  I think that some of that is being pushed back on.
[00:28:12]  I do see international reports and stuff of people who are embedded there.
[00:28:17]  Sure.
[00:28:19]  It's limited, certainly, but there is a view.
[00:28:25]  Yeah, yeah, I mean, but it's patchy.
[00:28:27]  It's tough.
[00:28:28]  The asymmetric nature of this is so fucking crazy.
[00:28:35]  It's tough to wrestle with.
[00:28:36]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:28:37]  So here's something a little off topic that's a little lighter.
[00:28:40]  Now let's expand on why I said the Harvard mafia.
[00:28:45]  You can talk about who runs the world.
[00:28:48]  BlackRock, the Chi-Comms, all the different organizations and groups, Rothschilds.
[00:28:55]  But when you pull back and you go look at Harvard, it's the big leagues.
[00:29:02]  And it's people that are put through the process of the political science department and the legal department and other systems of Harvard that make it up.
[00:29:11]  And that's why the Chinese dictator, Xi Jiping, sends his daughter to Harvard.
[00:29:20]  Now, that's a secret.
[00:29:21]  You're not supposed to know.
[00:29:23]  And the word is she's recently been pulled out of Harvard and sent back to China.
[00:29:27]  What's that tell you?
[00:29:30]  Because the same people that run Harvard helped set up China and Mao Xi Tong and the rest of it.
[00:29:35]  Helped set up China.
[00:29:36]  By the way, it's not full.
[00:29:37]  Someone his daughter under another name goes to Harvard.
[00:29:39]  I got that from high-level feds.
[00:29:42]  I later confirmed it with some other feds that I was recently talking to at lower level on my little secret mission that will not be revealed for a few weeks.
[00:29:52]  Go fuck yourself.
[00:29:53]  So Alex didn't get this information from high-level feds.
[00:29:55]  Steve Pieczenik told him about it.
[00:29:57]  I remember that happening on air.
[00:29:59]  Yeah, I remember it.
[00:30:00]  It's so full of shit.
[00:30:02]  There have been so many articles about Xi's daughter going to Harvard.
[00:30:05]  It's not a secret at all.
[00:30:06]  Ooh, but what about this news that she was pulled out of classes recently?
[00:30:10]  I'm interested.
[00:30:11]  Ooh.
[00:30:12]  Would it surprise Alex to learn that you graduated from Harvard in 2014?
[00:30:16]  It would surprise me to learn that a great deal.
[00:30:20]  I am very surprised, sir.
[00:30:22]  Almost a decade.
[00:30:23]  Wait, does he have a different daughter?
[00:30:25]  Does he have an even more even more in Harvard under a different name, daughter?
[00:30:31]  No.
[00:30:32]  Alex's bullshit charade that he pulls, it really only works if you imagine that he has access to some kind of information that you don't, which is why he makes up all these high-level sources and lies about the wildly discredited people that he has on the show to inflate their status.
[00:30:45]  That's why he claims to have gotten so much information from prophetic dreams and downloads from God.
[00:30:50]  You can't know what he knows if it's coming from a divine source.
[00:30:53]  So you have to just take his word for it.
[00:30:55]  If it's coming from these high-level feds, you don't have access to those high-level feds.
[00:31:00]  I don't.
[00:31:00]  You got to listen to Alex.
[00:31:01]  He's the one who's telling you this deep information, like that Xi's daughter is being pulled out of classes 10 years after she graduated.
[00:31:08]  That's so funny.
[00:31:09]  That's ridiculous.
[00:31:11]  That's very funny that she's being pulled out of class.
[00:31:14]  I just heard she's pulled out of classes.
[00:31:15]  This is about as funny as it gets for somebody who is way to be interesting, Alex.
[00:31:19]  That is the version of that heist movie thing where the guy's like, hey, you worked with Fred Johnson, did you?
[00:31:30]  And you're like, no, Fred Johnson's dead six months, you know, like that whole thing.
[00:31:35]  But instead, he's like, hell yeah, I love Fred Johnson.

=== GOP Votes: A False Illusion (06:31) ===

[00:31:38]  The guy's like, haha, I caught you.
[00:31:39]  He's been dead.
[00:31:40]  Fred Johnson's still alive.
[00:31:42]  Secretly.
[00:31:43]  I am Fred Johnson.
[00:31:45]  His death was a standby.
[00:31:47]  Exactly.
[00:31:47]  It's all a false leg.
[00:31:49]  Oh, fine.
[00:31:49]  Whatever, man.
[00:31:50]  So, this is the only real card that Alex can play to impress the audience.
[00:31:53]  This illusion that he knows stuff that they don't or can't.
[00:31:56]  It's a complete fraud, and his secret mission is just another vacation.
[00:32:00]  Maybe he called Pieczenik while he was on his trip, but you can bet that vacation will never materialize into anything meaningful.
[00:32:06]  No.
[00:32:07]  Just like his trip to find Zuckerberg's underground bases conveniently located very near a luxury spa.
[00:32:14]  Yeah, that does help.
[00:32:15]  It does help whenever those things are conveniently located next to each other.
[00:32:19]  Fucking prick.
[00:32:21]  Anyway, we get to some petty political drama here because we are in the middle.
[00:32:27]  We're a little bit further along as we're recording this, but at this point, they're in the middle of the speakership votes.
[00:32:33]  Sure, sure, sure.
[00:32:34]  And so Jim Jordan is about to have his second vote.
[00:32:36]  Great.
[00:32:37]  Good dude.
[00:32:38]  Yeah.
[00:32:38]  Good dude.
[00:32:39]  Great.
[00:32:40]  It appears on the final words coming in in the next few minutes that Jim Jordan's second round of trying to be elected House Speaker has failed.
[00:32:49]  They're telling the final votes, but it looks like he is not having C-SPAN's reporting.
[00:32:53]  He does not have it.
[00:32:55]  People will say, well, why do we do this?
[00:32:57]  Why do we unseat Kevin McCarthy?
[00:33:00]  Because we're not rolling over anymore and we're fighting back.
[00:33:03]  We're taking control of this country.
[00:33:05]  And if the Democrats install somebody now who they can help Republican blue bloods, then we'll know who the bad guys are.
[00:33:12]  We're unmasking them.
[00:33:13]  Let's go to the live feed from the House of Representatives deep in the swamp.
[00:33:17]  So it's really funny because, you know, they go alphabetically through people's votes.
[00:33:21]  Yeah.
[00:33:21]  And so Alex is like hanging on these votes, and it's people in like the L's.
[00:33:28]  Yeah, long way to go.
[00:33:29]  It's already past that.
[00:33:31]  But enough people have voted for other people that Jim Jordan mathematically can't win.
[00:33:34]  Right, right.
[00:33:35]  So that's why people were saying that he'd already lost.
[00:33:37]  But Alex is acting like these votes coming in are meaningful.
[00:33:40]  Oh my God.
[00:33:41]  Amazing.
[00:33:41]  So Jim Jordan's a monster, unfit to lead in any capacity, even the capacity that he is in currently.
[00:33:46]  That being said, the Democrats are never going to help another GOP candidate win the speakership.
[00:33:51]  The fringe idiots on the Republican side made their bed, and it's incredibly powerful for the Democrats to now let them lie in it.
[00:33:58]  The GOP has the majority.
[00:33:59]  If they can agree to work together, they can easily elect a speaker.
[00:34:03]  Because their party is being held hostage by a small number of lunatics like Matt Gates, the only people who are in consideration for the speakership role are people who would pass the lunatic test.
[00:34:12]  And there are some GOP members who won't stand for that, at least enough to block the election.
[00:34:18]  They're never going to get past that.
[00:34:20]  This is a distraction, and it does get in the way of the job of governing, but this is a smaller hit for the Dems than it is for the GOP.
[00:34:27]  Their effort to pass legislation would be hurt by the GOP majority to begin with, so the opportunity cost for them is a lot smaller to let this play out.
[00:34:36]  Sure.
[00:34:36]  Conversely, the GOP is wasting time where they could actually get things done, but they can't even look past their petty squabbles to elect a leader.
[00:34:44]  Representative Mark Amade told The Hill that, quote, there ain't 217 votes for Jesus, Mary, and Joseph in there, which is a great sign that this is not going to get sorted out anytime soon.
[00:34:55]  I believe that.
[00:34:56]  Yeah, you can't get 217 votes for anything.
[00:34:59]  You cannot get 217 of these idiots to agree on anything.
[00:35:03]  They simply cannot do it.
[00:35:05]  They managed to pull it off with McCarthy, and then they completely fucked it up.
[00:35:08]  Love it.
[00:35:09]  Yeah.
[00:35:09]  Yeah.
[00:35:10]  I mean, the only problem, of course, is that they're still allowed to draw a paycheck and have health insurance and all that stuff.
[00:35:16]  That should stop.
[00:35:17]  Yeah.
[00:35:17]  Yep.
[00:35:18]  Yep.
[00:35:18]  As I'm preparing this episode today, Jordan has said that he's not looking to a third vote and has accepted that he isn't going to win.
[00:35:25]  Because he sees where the cards have fallen.
[00:35:26]  He's withdrawn himself from consideration and is backing the idea of expanding the powers of Speaker Pro Tem Patrick McHenry, who took over temporarily when McCarthy got the boot.
[00:35:36]  This, however, is causing real problems in the GOP, and many representatives have already indicated they are staunchly opposed to the move, at least enough that this is not going to pass.
[00:35:46]  Obviously, the Dems aren't going to back it.
[00:35:48]  So, if like five members of the GOP vote against it, there's no majority there.
[00:35:52]  So, it looks like they're in for a long grind, trying to find somebody that they can nominate who will appease both the more moderate side and the fringe extremist side of the House Republican body.
[00:36:01]  They should have kept McCarthy and just continued posturing like they were about to remove him.
[00:36:06]  That way, they don't end up in an embarrassing situation like this, and they can still get their base all riled up by how they're about to stick it to the man.
[00:36:13]  You don't want the buyer's remorse of buying the car and leaving the parking lot.
[00:36:17]  That's where they are now.
[00:36:18]  I don't know.
[00:36:19]  Does anybody care?
[00:36:20]  I think some people care.
[00:36:22]  I don't think so.
[00:36:23]  I mean, I genuinely don't think it matters whether they do or do not do anything.
[00:36:28]  I don't think it matters as far as elections are concerned for them.
[00:36:32]  I think, not least of which, because one, nobody's going to vote D if they're that's not happening.
[00:36:38]  There are people who are in districts that could be a bit more contested than you imagine.
[00:36:44]  Sure, but the other problem that is quite easy to attack is the extreme gerrymandering of almost all of these congressionalists.
[00:36:52]  Hey, buddy, that is not true.
[00:36:55]  That is a factor.
[00:36:56]  But there is a part of me that says the smartest thing these people can do is act like they're even doing something.
[00:37:02]  And this is the best thing to do because it's not even something.
[00:37:06]  Well, I think it's a drama that doesn't really play into the GOP's advantage.
[00:37:11]  Unless people like Matt Gates were planning to fracture the party and spread.
[00:37:15]  I mean, they don't want elections, period.
[00:37:18]  That's true.
[00:37:19]  Why would they care if they're ruining their electability?
[00:37:23]  Yeah, that's true.
[00:37:25]  The idea is no more elections.
[00:37:27]  I guess you do have a point in as much as there are a lot of districts that are very gerrymandered.
[00:37:33]  Yeah.
[00:37:33]  But it is also overly simplistic to say that everybody is safe because of that.
[00:37:41]  Because otherwise, there would be no real incoming.
[00:37:43]  Oh, no, no, no.
[00:37:44]  I'm not talking about the individuals.
[00:37:45]  I'm not saying everybody's safe.
[00:37:47]  There's also quite a possibility of being primaried.
[00:37:50]  Like, these extreme folks could easily face a very well-funded primary challenge from the larger block of the more institutional establishment rhinos.

=== Alex Denies Hospital Deaths (15:30) ===

[00:38:03]  Sure.
[00:38:03]  As Alex might call them.
[00:38:04]  And that is a pretty real threat.
[00:38:06]  Sure.
[00:38:07]  I mean, all of us.
[00:38:09]  Sure.
[00:38:11]  Well, I mean, the stakes are there.
[00:38:12]  You know, like, yeah, I'm not going to discreet.
[00:38:15]  There's no good outcome here.
[00:38:16]  Speaking of not good outcomes.
[00:38:18]  We have to get back to Alex talking geopolitics.
[00:38:21]  Oh, God damn it.
[00:38:22]  And here's where he just denies that people died at the hospital.
[00:38:24]  Okay, great.
[00:38:25]  And as you see, there are the hospitals there.
[00:38:27]  It's got windows blown out, but the cars were hit.
[00:38:33]  And that's what happened.
[00:38:34]  You can see the little missile strike point.
[00:38:37]  You know, the missile came in sideways there on the ground.
[00:38:40]  Now, no, that's a fact.
[00:38:43]  But where's the corporate media running its reports that it was a parking lot?
[00:38:48]  Where are the 500 dead?
[00:38:50]  Oh, they're a bunch of dead people.
[00:38:54]  And there's thousands dead, and it's terrible.
[00:38:56]  There are a lot of children dead, but not there.
[00:38:58]  It's not true.
[00:39:00]  Cut and dry, corporate media running with one Hamas.
[00:39:03]  That means Hezbollah.
[00:39:04]  And the Moolah said.
[00:39:07]  And if you turn on our news right now, they're still saying that Israel blew up this hospital.
[00:39:14]  It's not true.
[00:39:16]  What a piece of shit.
[00:39:17]  So I understand wanting to spread misinformation for profit.
[00:39:20]  And I know that the world situation here is a bonanza for him, but there's no reason to act like this.
[00:39:25]  There's no reason to deny the deaths of 400-ish individuals who were at that hospital.
[00:39:31]  This is just monstrous behavior.
[00:39:32]  Yeah, I don't even get it.
[00:39:33]  At very least, there is independent verification of between 150 to 200 people who were killed and taken to the nearby Shifa hospital, as told to the New York Times by the head of that hospital.
[00:39:44]  There were also approximately 300 wounded who were brought there, but no indication of the severity of those injuries or if any of them passed away subsequently.
[00:39:52]  There may be some fine-tuning that needs to be done in terms of the exact number of casualties versus the estimation, but what Alex is doing is inhuman.
[00:40:00]  And like it's such a disrespect to everything.
[00:40:04]  Yeah.
[00:40:05]  Further, if anything, the media is not saying that Israel bombed that hospital.
[00:40:09]  I've seen a fair amount of coverage that says that nothing is definitive, like that there is some gray area in terms of being able to sort this out, but that the U.S. and Israeli intelligence sources were confident that Israel isn't to blame.
[00:40:22]  If anything, I feel like the coverage is like pretty, like, when you take people who are seen as credible sources of information, like the U.S. intelligence agencies and the Israeli intelligence, credible sources of information to the media, to the press, they are saying that Israel didn't do it.
[00:40:42]  So it's actually the opposite of what Alex is saying.
[00:40:44]  Yeah, it is very strange.
[00:40:45]  Yeah, he's making all this stuff up that the media is saying that because it works for his purposes better.
[00:40:49]  Yeah.
[00:40:50]  It's very weird.
[00:40:51]  I find this whole thing really fucked up, not least of which just because it is a thing for us to discuss and like really focus on because there's big explosions and whatnot.
[00:41:05]  But the truth is I am infinitely more concerned about the fact that people are going to die of thirst.
[00:41:15]  Yeah.
[00:41:16]  You know, like that's a reality.
[00:41:20]  I'd rather go one way than to other.
[00:41:23]  And for me, like, this is a type of conversation that allows people to get into this, like, oh, it's a war, you know, like, oh, was it this side, the side with rockets, or was it this side, the side with bombs?
[00:41:35]  It's an event as opposed to a process.
[00:41:37]  Right.
[00:41:37]  And that can grasp attention a lot more easily.
[00:41:39]  Right.
[00:41:40]  I mean, what we are looking at is, I mean, they didn't, they don't need to fire any bombs.
[00:41:46]  They don't need to fire any rockets.
[00:41:48]  Israel just needs to stand at the fence and say nobody gets water.
[00:41:52]  And that's what they can do.
[00:41:54]  They can do that.
[00:41:56]  That's a thing they can do.
[00:41:58]  Sure.
[00:41:59]  So, I mean, it is weird that they're even firing rockets at all.
[00:42:03]  Well, I understand your position on this.
[00:42:06]  And that is fair.
[00:42:10]  I don't know.
[00:42:11]  It's just weird for me because it is also kind of a moment where we see the media becoming Alex 2.
[00:42:18]  You know, there's that space of, wow, you can't believe anybody, really.
[00:42:25]  You can't.
[00:42:27]  Normally, when you see U.S. intelligence sources say, you can at least get the idea of like, I hope they're telling the truth.
[00:42:36]  But this is a situation where it's like, I understand that U.S. intelligence sources say that they didn't fire it.
[00:42:43]  And I don't know if I can believe them.
[00:42:44]  And I don't.
[00:42:46]  You know?
[00:42:46]  Sure.
[00:42:47]  But more importantly is they're going to die of thirst.
[00:42:53]  Yeah.
[00:42:53]  No, I mean, there's, you know, I get what you're saying.
[00:42:57]  Yeah.
[00:42:57]  There are different order problems.
[00:42:59]  Yeah.
[00:43:00]  And I agree that there's, you know, this and then there's this.
[00:43:07]  Yeah.
[00:43:08]  Yeah.
[00:43:08]  And maybe, I don't know.
[00:43:11]  I don't.
[00:43:11]  It's so tough.
[00:43:12]  Yeah, it's a mess because, you know, you get into an argument of what is more important.
[00:43:17]  And I don't know if those are decisions that you and I can really credibly speak on.
[00:43:21]  So it just, it's all tragic.
[00:43:23]  Yeah.
[00:43:24]  Everything is tragic.
[00:43:25]  And Alex's behavior is condemnable.
[00:43:30]  Yeah.
[00:43:30]  Yeah.
[00:43:31]  There's no win.
[00:43:32]  There's no winner.
[00:43:33]  And he thinks he's just going with the truth.
[00:43:35]  Oh, boy.
[00:43:36]  Oh, God.
[00:43:36]  See how easy it is when you just go with the truth?
[00:43:38]  Israel stood down.
[00:43:40]  It stinks like a dead fish.
[00:43:42]  Whatever's going on.
[00:43:45]  Biden gave $6 billion five weeks ago to Iran.
[00:43:48]  They gave it to Hamas.
[00:43:49]  They admit they give it to him.
[00:43:51]  Hamas admits they were directed by Iran.
[00:43:55]  And now Biden is about to let all the rest of the sanctions expire on Iran.
[00:44:00]  What is going on?
[00:44:01]  This isn't telling the truth.
[00:44:02]  It's adhering to a narrative.
[00:44:04]  It does make Alex's job a lot easier when he cherry picks pieces of information that are convenient for him, then compiles them into a neat narrative package for the audience.
[00:44:12]  Dealing with the complexities of life is insanely difficult, and Alex is not up to the task.
[00:44:16]  He hasn't shown in any way that Israel had a stand down.
[00:44:19]  He hasn't shown in any way that Biden unfreezing Iranian funds had any impact on the attack on the 7th.
[00:44:26]  Further, Iran hasn't admitted that they gave those funds to Hamas or else the funds would have been refrozen.
[00:44:31]  That account is regulated by the U.S. Treasury, so saying we gave it to a terrorist group, that wouldn't fly.
[00:44:36]  But it's really helpful for Alex's narrative to not introduce complexity into this.
[00:44:41]  So he lies to the audience that this is all proven and all admitted.
[00:44:45]  In some ways, this actually does reflect Alex telling the truth, which is to say that he's telling a deeper truth, and that is that he doesn't give a shit about the truth.
[00:44:53]  The truth is what's expedient for him, what makes his job easier and what makes him money.
[00:44:58]  It's so much easier for him when he just follows that path because it's designed to be easy.
[00:45:02]  It has nothing to do with reality-based versions of truth, though.
[00:45:06]  It's just, you know, it's so easy when you go with the truth that you don't give a fuck about the truth.
[00:45:11]  Yes, okay.
[00:45:12]  Yeah, I mean, there is a certain level of if you were a self-aware snowball at the top of a hill, you'd be like, well, listen, I'm going to get to the bottom of this fucking hill.
[00:45:28]  And I would hope you're not in my way because I have no interest in doing it the right way.
[00:45:33]  You know, there's something to be said for that.
[00:45:36]  I will get out of your way.
[00:45:37]  The problem is you keep getting bigger.
[00:45:39]  That is the issue.
[00:45:40]  So I'm going to skip this next clip because really it's just him repeating that he denying the deaths of the people at the hospital.
[00:45:47]  And I mean, I think that there could be value in playing it repeatedly because he says it repeatedly.
[00:45:54]  Yeah.
[00:45:55]  But I feel like I can just tell you he's very invested in that.
[00:45:59]  Yeah.
[00:45:59]  For reasons that are not entirely clear.
[00:46:05]  He very much wants to push that this is all fake.
[00:46:09]  Yeah.
[00:46:09]  Basically.
[00:46:10]  That it was just a parking lot and there weren't deaths.
[00:46:14]  I don't know if he would amend that to be like, I don't know, maybe someone was in one of the cars and died or something like that.
[00:46:20]  But in terms of the reality that people have said that there were a bunch of people who were seeking shelter in that courtyard, he is not talking about that.
[00:46:30]  And like, I can't stress enough, like, that reporting that he's doing repeatedly through this show is something that requires and it demands correction.
[00:46:41]  Yeah.
[00:46:42]  It demands retraction.
[00:46:43]  And the reason he won't do that is because it reveals how stupid he is.
[00:46:49]  If he were to retract, like, oh, I didn't realize that there were people who were seeking shelter at the hospital in the courtyard.
[00:46:55]  It reveals how easy it is for him to jump on a storyline that he wants to be the case and report it so like passionately and as if he's researched this and everybody who disagrees is stupid.
[00:47:07]  If he were to retract, he'd just like look like a fucking idiot.
[00:47:11]  Yeah, you can't open that.
[00:47:13]  Once you retract one thing, then now you start measuring other stories against whether or not, oh, is it as bad as this time that I said there wasn't anybody who died in this hospital parking lot?
[00:47:25]  I guess I won't have to retract.
[00:47:26]  Yeah, it's just never going to be good.
[00:47:28]  Of course not.
[00:47:28]  So instead, all you do is let this still be part of your canon.
[00:47:34]  Just keep on going.
[00:47:35]  Just roll that snowball down the hill.
[00:47:37]  So we're going to move along here then.
[00:47:39]  We've gotten through what I would describe as the terrible poor show.
[00:47:43]  Cool.
[00:47:43]  Now we're into farce.
[00:47:44]  Not quite.
[00:47:45]  Oh, there's a little bit of news.
[00:47:46]  Damn it.
[00:47:46]  There's a little bit of news, and then we'll get into farce.
[00:47:49]  The Wes Anderson title card second act farce has not yet come up.
[00:47:53]  No.
[00:47:53]  Gotcha.
[00:47:54]  So here is a little bit of news.
[00:47:56]  Head of the FBI over the weekend at a law enforcement summit in California in San Diego.
[00:48:05]  Said, oh, yes, there's a rising threat of terror because of this.
[00:48:08]  Didn't even say Islamic.
[00:48:09]  They said, but the real thing is the right-wingers.
[00:48:12]  Yeah, right.
[00:48:14]  Because that's who's being targeted is loyal, smart, informed, good Americans who are loyal to the Republic and who don't want to be an Islamic enclave.
[00:48:30]  But let's show the footage from Dallas.
[00:48:31]  So it seems mysterious that Alex is just ignoring that story about the guy here in Illinois who stabbed a six-year-old boy to death because he was a Palestinian and had been convinced by right-wing radio that Muslims needed to die.
[00:48:42]  It's very strange that story isn't in his bullshit stack of paper.
[00:48:46]  Even weirder that he doesn't want to talk about Nathan Fettman, a dude who is now on trial for four counts of first-degree murder after killing a Muslim family in Ontario a few years back.
[00:48:56]  I'll just read this from a Vice article that just came out about his trial.
[00:48:59]  Quote, I consumed libertarian content, mainstream conservative content, then I slowly started looking at some alt-right content on YouTube and then stumbled across some of the more fringe.
[00:49:09]  He said that he consumed conspiratorial content like Alex Jones' InfoWars, where he found, quote, conspiracies that Middle Eastern wars were a conspiracy to try to bring Muslim immigration into Europe.
[00:49:20]  This then led him to white nationalist content.
[00:49:23]  If I were Alex, I'd definitely avoid this stuff, too.
[00:49:26]  It's hard to maintain plausible deniability when your audience keeps killing the people you were saying are incompatible with the West.
[00:49:32]  Yeah.
[00:49:32]  So the FBI director Christopher Ray made an address at the International Association of Police conference in San Diego.
[00:49:39]  He didn't say the things Alex is saying.
[00:49:41]  His speech is really easily available for anyone to watch and find the transcript, but Alex's audience, he knows they won't do that.
[00:49:47]  So he's free to lie however he wants.
[00:49:49]  I honestly think that this line is what Alex is talking about.
[00:49:53]  Quote, whether that be from foreign terrorist organizations or those inspired by them or domestic violent extremists motivated by their own racial animus, the targeting of community because of their faith is totally unacceptable.
[00:50:06]  You can see how Alex would take issue with that.
[00:50:08]  Like most of his favorite people are domestically violent extremists motivated by their own racial animus.
[00:50:12]  I mean, the thing about something like that is that the easiest thing in the world is to listen to that statement and not shout, he's talking about me.
[00:50:22]  Right.
[00:50:23]  It's so easy to do that.
[00:50:24]  Wait, is he talking about loyal Americans?
[00:50:26]  I'm just sitting here going, I mean, even if you are, you can just be like, great speech, dude.
[00:50:35]  You don't have to say, you don't have to be like, hey, how dare you say that about white nationalists?
[00:50:40]  What?
[00:50:41]  Why did you bring that up?
[00:50:42]  Well, because I am, oh, shit.
[00:50:45]  You ready for some farce?
[00:50:46]  Let's do it.
[00:50:46]  Okay, here we go.
[00:50:48]  We have a special guest joining us, a comedian.
[00:50:51]  He's also politically interesting and informative.
[00:50:55]  Don't do this.
[00:50:56]  Owen Benjamin next hour.
[00:50:57]  God damn it.
[00:50:58]  Wow.
[00:50:59]  This is unacceptable.
[00:51:00]  Oh, God.
[00:51:00]  Having Owen Benjamin on this show is certainly a choice.
[00:51:04]  Not only did Alex and Owen have a nasty falling out a few years ago because Owen was being such an overt Nazi that Alex had no choice but to cut ties, and then Owen spent a bunch of time airing out Alex's dirty laundry talking about how much he hates Alex and how Alex is a fat idiot who's a shill for the Jews.
[00:51:19]  Like, not only that, that history is enough.
[00:51:21]  That's there.
[00:51:22]  Yeah.
[00:51:22]  And now I guess they're coming back together.
[00:51:24]  And I think I have a theory about why.
[00:51:26]  When it turned out that no one liked Owen and all the Rogan squad turned on him, he went running to Infowars and Alex.
[00:51:33]  And then, when he went a little too far down the Nazi hole, Alex turned on him and he was left with nowhere else to really go.
[00:51:40]  Literally, no one wanted anybody who had any level of clout or media exposure, they weren't interested in him because he was a toxic bigot.
[00:51:47]  He also was not funny.
[00:51:49]  He's a stand-up comedian who's not funny.
[00:51:51]  I mean, I'm offended by both of those things, and I don't want to say which one offends me more.
[00:51:56]  And so he did what other aspiring right-wing extremists have done in the past.
[00:52:00]  He packed up and he went to Idaho, where he set up a compound he called Ursa Rio.
[00:52:05]  I guess it's Bear River or something like that, which makes some sense because Owen's obsessed with bears.
[00:52:10]  He has his audience call him Big Bear.
[00:52:11]  It's nonsense.
[00:52:12]  Sure.
[00:52:12]  Whatever.
[00:52:13]  Anyway, after he went to Idaho, Owen would set up his webcam, often at his fire pit, and live stream himself drinking to excess and rambling about all sorts of topics, but frequently about how much he hates the Jews.
[00:52:23]  Over time, he accumulated a sizable Nazi-esque following, and he'd found his own niche, picking up viewers who like the folks that he used to hang out with, but mad that they didn't talk about the Jews enough.
[00:52:36]  Right.
[00:52:37]  So you got this Owen guy to pivot towards.
[00:52:40]  Here's my problem, right?
[00:52:41]  Here's my big.
[00:52:43]  Okay, this isn't my only problem.
[00:52:45]  This is a problem for me.
[00:52:47]  Because I kind of want, you can't test this.
[00:52:52]  You can't test this hypothesis in the real world.
[00:52:55]  But I wonder if I were to follow these same steps, could I get anti-Semites to follow me faster than Owen could?
[00:53:04]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:53:05]  Probably not.
[00:53:06]  Would I be better at being an no, probably not because you didn't date Christina Ricci and you weren't in a couple Sandler movies?

=== Owen's Desperate Stand-Up (15:33) ===

[00:53:13]  That's true, I didn't.
[00:53:14]  That's true.
[00:53:15]  So he had a higher place to fall from.
[00:53:17]  That is true.
[00:53:18]  That's true.
[00:53:18]  Yeah.
[00:53:19]  Well, I think that's what makes his Nazism interesting to people.
[00:53:23]  So he did this.
[00:53:25]  He went out there and he started his fucking drunk live streams by the fire.
[00:53:30]  And gradually this turned into a cult fantasy.
[00:53:33]  Owen pitched Ursa Rio as a safe haven for people like himself and his audience.
[00:53:38]  There would be cabins people could come live in and stay in, but more importantly, there would be a stage so Owen could do stand-up to the only audience that might actually want to see him.
[00:53:46]  Oh my god.
[00:53:47]  And then have a festival.
[00:53:48]  Yeah.
[00:53:49]  Owen raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from his fans because they believed in the mission of this fringe extremist compound, but it wasn't to be.
[00:53:56]  Late last year, Owen got in some trouble with the zoning people over construction he wanted to do at the property, and he declared himself free from zoning laws.
[00:54:04]  I was about to say that's exactly what I would do.
[00:54:07]  Yeah, it turns out that doesn't work.
[00:54:10]  And eventually, Owen had to give up on his plans to expand Ursa Rio, which you can probably imagine pissed off a lot of his audience who paid good money for him to create the next Ruby Ridge.
[00:54:20]  This has led to a significant portion of Owen's audience seeing through his entire scam and realizing that he was using the audience to try and build and buy and improve his land.
[00:54:30]  Yeah.
[00:54:30]  Yeah.
[00:54:31]  To make matters worse, Owen still wants to do stand-up, even though he sucks at it, and no one wants to book his Nazi ass.
[00:54:37]  Because of this tension, he's had to self-produce some stand-up specials.
[00:54:40]  And from everything I can tell, things are falling apart massively for him.
[00:54:44]  His subreddit is full of people who appear to be ex-fans who now hate him.
[00:54:48]  And it seems like Owen is in a particularly nasty feud with Adam Camacho, the filmmaker who was making a documentary about his bear compound, as well as Owen's latest special, Noble Savage, which was filmed in a tent in the middle of Missouri somewhere and was just released a week ago or so, around a week ago, to very disappointing results.
[00:55:07]  Oh, yeah.
[00:55:08]  I spent a while trying to get the bottom of all this, but all I can tell is that Owen sunk quite a bit of money into the special, and they tried to post it, but the payment processor he tried to use didn't want to work with him.
[00:55:18]  So he was able to, he wasn't able to monetize it, and everyone was supposed to get refunds.
[00:55:23]  It's a big old mess.
[00:55:24]  Oh, boy.
[00:55:24]  There may also be some rights issues because the raw footage appears to be owned by a third-party company.
[00:55:30]  It's all such a fucking mess, which is not uncommon with Owen Benjamin.
[00:55:34]  Say what you like about him, but he's the world's messiest drunk fire pit Nazi live streamer.
[00:55:38]  Messy.
[00:55:41]  The footage of his special.
[00:55:44]  Filmed at a tent in the middle of Missouri in a field.
[00:55:46]  And he somehow still doesn't own it.
[00:55:50]  I think so.
[00:55:51]  That's my Christian.
[00:55:52]  You lose a fucking iPhone.
[00:55:54]  Oh, my God.
[00:55:55]  That's amazing.
[00:55:56]  Nah, logistics.
[00:55:57]  Who knows about this?
[00:55:58]  That is truly amazing.
[00:56:00]  Oh, man.
[00:56:01]  So now there's another wrinkle here, and that is that one section of Owen's audience is leaving because they're convinced he's scamming.
[00:56:07]  And the letdown of Ursario is too much to handle.
[00:56:10]  But there's an entirely other section that believes that he's actually controlled opposition.
[00:56:14]  All the Nazi shit he's saying isn't sincere, according to these folks.
[00:56:18]  It's just sugary words meant to lure them in and lead them into the hands of the Jews.
[00:56:22]  Oh, you're sweet, sweet Nazi lies.
[00:56:25]  This is the ultimate fate of pretty much anyone who gets into the very lucrative game of conspiracy bullshit.
[00:56:30]  It's super easy to play on people's anger, suspicion, and fear, but eventually that will get turned on you.
[00:56:36]  And Owen is definitely in the find out part of the ride.
[00:56:39]  I did a terrible job of summing all this up, primarily because there is no clarity to any of this and everybody's a liar.
[00:56:44]  But the general picture is super clear.
[00:56:46]  Owen is losing his grip on his extreme audience that he's built over the years, and he's pretty desperate.
[00:56:51]  So desperate that he's willing to crawl back to Alex fucking Jones.
[00:56:55]  Regardless of how disgusting any of the things these dudes say is or how offensive it is to have Owen on at a time like this, the real message I want to stress is how pathetic both of these losers are.
[00:57:05]  It's just shockingly spineless for these two to get back together and pretend like nothing happened.
[00:57:10]  Alex canceled Owen.
[00:57:12]  He canceled him.
[00:57:12]  I mean, I just.
[00:57:14]  It's one thing of you falling out with somebody and then you make amends, usually because one side or both had a change of heart about something and maybe changed one of their positions.
[00:57:22]  Sure.
[00:57:23]  Neither of these dudes has changed their positions that led to their falling out.
[00:57:26]  Owen is just losing his audience and he needs to try and get the Alex bump that he and so he's willing to just oh Alex, you're so funny.
[00:57:35]  Oh man.
[00:57:36]  I mean it is so pathetic.
[00:57:38]  It is so much like you can imagine it happening over and over and over again though because it does.
[00:57:44]  It is like Alex gets mad at somebody and then after about a year he kind of forgets where he's at.
[00:57:49]  Dude, I don't think Alex is mad at him.
[00:57:51]  I think it was a calculated decision of like, I can't have this Nazi fucking drunk on my show.
[00:57:55]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:57:56]  But the pattern is like after a little bit, he doesn't even remember really.
[00:58:01]  And then they could definitely, you know, whenever somebody's down, they can email somebody and just, they'll be like, oh yeah, Alex would love to have you on.
[00:58:08]  Why?
[00:58:09]  It's been almost a couple of years.
[00:58:10]  What are you doing?
[00:58:11]  It's been so long.
[00:58:12]  Like, he doesn't even know.
[00:58:14]  Yeah, I think that there is a cycle.
[00:58:17]  In the same way that Steve Pieczenik kept burning Alex and then you'd have him back.
[00:58:20]  And then he'd come back.
[00:58:21]  Come back.
[00:58:22]  Yeah, Alex isn't good at, or let's be generous.
[00:58:27]  He's very forgiving.
[00:58:28]  He's a forgiving man.
[00:58:30]  Seven times, 77 times, that's how much you must forgive your brothers.
[00:58:36]  He's forgiven COVID for infecting him multiple times.
[00:58:40]  He still seems to be on COVID's team.
[00:58:41]  He's made a lot of peace with that.
[00:58:43]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:58:44]  So Alex begins his introduction by saying some very not true things about Owen.
[00:58:49]  Well, hey, Trim Maverick, Rip Hopper, comic and pop show host.
[00:58:54]  Owen Benjamin joins us to balance the hour.
[00:58:56]  talk about all those new comedy special and so much more and then third hour in the fourth hour your phone calls a couple phone calls That's basically all that's not true, even the phone calls.
[00:59:10]  Owen's not a Maverick.
[00:59:11]  He's just a run-of-the-mill anti-Semite and general bigot.
[00:59:14]  There's nothing new about him.
[00:59:15]  He's not an in-demand comic.
[00:59:17]  No one wants to book him anywhere because he sucks at stand-up and he's a boring bigot.
[00:59:20]  He's not even a talk show host.
[00:59:22]  He just live streams himself saying idiotic shit while he's drunk near a fireplace at his pretend Idaho compound.
[00:59:28]  It's ridiculous.
[00:59:29]  None of that's true.
[00:59:30]  Yeah.
[00:59:31]  Oh, he's a talk show host.
[00:59:33]  He's one of the people that really reinforces that, like, if you want to be successful, it's good to be good at stuff, but it's way more important to find the right social sphere, and then they'll help you get into that successful rate.
[00:59:49]  You know, like, if you want to make good stuff, focus on making good things, and you probably won't be successful.
[00:59:55]  But if you want to be successful, find good friends who will make you that.
[01:00:00]  Well, and the ultimate irony is that he had all that.
[01:00:03]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:00:04]  He was in with Sandbler.
[01:00:06]  He could have just coasted.
[01:00:08]  He could have hosted.
[01:00:09]  Yeah.
[01:00:09]  I mean, fucking Rob Rob.
[01:00:12]  What's his dumb?
[01:00:13]  He's still fine.
[01:00:15]  Who?
[01:00:16]  You know, the other guy who was friends with Sandler for, you know.
[01:00:19]  Schneider?
[01:00:20]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:00:21]  He's not.
[01:00:22]  He's not as fine as he could be.
[01:00:23]  No, no, no, no.
[01:00:24]  He's not doing well.
[01:00:25]  We're not going to get a third.
[01:00:27]  We're not going to get the final installment of the Deuce Bigelow trilogy.
[01:00:30]  Absolutely not.
[01:00:31]  We'll never get closure on that.
[01:00:33]  Deuce Bigelow, Interstellar Gigelo.
[01:00:35]  Can you imagine Deuce Bigelow in space?
[01:00:37]  But you know what Rob did?
[01:00:38]  He coasted long enough that he's going to be able to run out the clock.
[01:00:42]  Owen's got too much time on the clock left.
[01:00:45]  Oh, yes.
[01:00:45]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:00:46]  Oh, yes.
[01:00:48]  And it's not looking good.
[01:00:49]  No.
[01:00:50]  You know, he ironically has too much time left on the clock and so little time left on the clock.
[01:00:56]  That's a good point.
[01:00:57]  So here's another not true thing.
[01:01:01]  Comedy specials are yet Noble Savage.
[01:01:04]  Ellen Benjamin will be joining us talking world events.
[01:01:07]  Canceled culture.
[01:01:09]  Donald Trump.
[01:01:10]  Kanye West and more.
[01:01:11]  But here's a few clips from his new special.
[01:01:13]  I'm going to spare you that.
[01:01:14]  Yeah, thank you.
[01:01:15]  So this is a bit much.
[01:01:16]  There were massive problems with the release of this special, and so Owen released it on his own BitChute channel where he has 38,000 subscribers.
[01:01:23]  In the first day and a half, it was viewed a little over 3,000 times and only has 148 thumbs ups.
[01:01:29]  Oh, that's so good.
[01:01:30]  Those are grim numbers.
[01:01:31]  He also has an Odyssey channel, which I only know because...
[01:01:35]  I've never heard of that before.
[01:01:36]  So no, I know.
[01:01:37]  O-D-Y-S-E-E.
[01:01:38]  I only know of it because that's where Project Camelot episodes were available.
[01:01:42]  Oh, I gotcha.
[01:01:43]  Okay.
[01:01:44]  He has 13,000 followers there, and his special has been viewed 1,100 times.
[01:01:49]  That's rough.
[01:01:49]  Yeah.
[01:01:50]  He was selling it, but he had to refund all those purchases.
[01:01:52]  So if people wanted to watch the special, they had to do it on some platform of his.
[01:01:57]  He has it posted on his website, but it's unclear if this is a strict embed on the site or if it's hosted from one of the other platforms.
[01:02:02]  But either way, it seems unlikely that more than 10,000 people probably watched it total.
[01:02:09]  And I'm including the people in that tent in Missouri.
[01:02:11]  Yeah.
[01:02:12]  Yep.
[01:02:12]  Which actually doesn't contribute that much.
[01:02:14]  I was going to say, that was probably like, what?
[01:02:16]  Oh, there were actual people there, too.
[01:02:18]  Yeah.
[01:02:18]  Okay.
[01:02:19]  Good for him.
[01:02:19]  It was like a tent revival, but with an angry picket comic.
[01:02:23]  Terrible.
[01:02:23]  Yeah.
[01:02:24]  Complaining about gay people existing.
[01:02:26]  You know, I just watched my first stand-up special in almost two years.
[01:02:31]  Beth Stelling's new special came out.
[01:02:33]  Oh, fun.
[01:02:33]  Great.
[01:02:34]  Yeah.
[01:02:34]  She's gotten really good.
[01:02:36]  She was good.
[01:02:36]  She was good.
[01:02:37]  No, no, no.
[01:02:38]  I know, but I mean.
[01:02:39]  Sweet Beth.
[01:02:40]  Now we're in the time of like not good, good.
[01:02:44]  Like, now she's in like theater good.
[01:02:46]  Yeah.
[01:02:46]  She's doing good.
[01:02:48]  She was just somewhat on her way out of Chicago when I came around.
[01:02:53]  So I never really knew her all that well, but she was always very nice.
[01:02:56]  Very, very good.
[01:02:57]  Yeah.
[01:02:58]  So conversely.
[01:02:59]  Conversely.
[01:03:00]  I watched a little bit of one special.
[01:03:02]  Oh, no.
[01:03:02]  I got so bored just within a few minutes.
[01:03:04]  Don't do it.
[01:03:05]  It's very pandery stuff about how glad he is to not be on TV and how it's a sign of his purity that he's doing stand-up in a field that he rented in the middle of nowhere.
[01:03:13]  Sure.
[01:03:13]  It's all kind of dull.
[01:03:14]  He comes out screaming, they told me I was canceled.
[01:03:17]  Oh, my God.
[01:03:20]  No.
[01:03:21]  Oh man.
[01:03:22]  Pretty fucking stupid.
[01:03:23]  I mean, if I have heard your opening bit at an open mic at some garbage place, it's like you can't do it on your independently released special.
[01:03:38]  That's extra gross.
[01:03:40]  Yeah.
[01:03:40]  That's extra gross.
[01:03:41]  Very sad.
[01:03:42]  Yeah.
[01:03:43]  So look, man.
[01:03:44]  But the truth is he has been canceled.
[01:03:47]  All right.
[01:03:47]  Owen Benjamin joins us.
[01:03:49]  One of the most canceled people out there.
[01:03:51]  OwenBenjamin.com.
[01:03:52]  Most recent comedy special Noble Savage.
[01:03:54]  Got a lot more clips coming up.
[01:03:56]  He's so canceled that Alex himself canceled Owen.
[01:04:00]  Yeah, he said he was canceled.
[01:04:01]  That's not going to come up at all because Owen is fucking desperate and he'll just drop the whole Alex is a dumb shill and I apologize for associating him thing that he was selling his audience after Alex canceled it.
[01:04:11]  That is all just water under the bridge, man.
[01:04:13]  Hey, Alex, so good to see you.
[01:04:15]  What's up?
[01:04:16]  I missed you so much.
[01:04:17]  It's so funny.
[01:04:18]  You know what?
[01:04:19]  We've been sitting on this bench next to this river for 20 years and then you've been gone for a couple.
[01:04:23]  How you doing?
[01:04:24]  You know what's great?
[01:04:25]  Farming.
[01:04:26]  Farming.
[01:04:27]  What's it like in Idaho?
[01:04:29]  Alex, you canceled me.
[01:04:32]  More like Udaho, am I right?
[01:04:35]  Cancellation.
[01:04:36]  That's not too far off from what some of his jokes might be.
[01:04:39]  I really hope you are.
[01:04:40]  So, look, here's the deal.
[01:04:42]  Yeah.
[01:04:42]  I think, if I had to guess, Owen initiated this.
[01:04:47]  Yeah, well, for sure.
[01:04:48]  Because his special's coming out.
[01:04:49]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:04:50]  And no one wants to have him on that has any reach.
[01:04:53]  And there's no way Alex was like, whoa, Owen's got a new special out?
[01:04:57]  Get him on.
[01:04:58]  And you can kind of tell because this starts off with him plugging the special.
[01:05:02]  Yeah.
[01:05:02]  What do you make of where we are?
[01:05:04]  And boy, Trump sent mean tweets, but we didn't get any big wars with him.
[01:05:09]  And we're getting a new war every few weeks now.
[01:05:12]  Yeah, I mean, it's a really good time to watch my special and laugh.
[01:05:18]  Man, we all need a laugh in this time.
[01:05:22]  The bravest thing you can do is watch Owen's comedy special and just have a laugh.
[01:05:27]  I just don't.
[01:05:29]  I'll never understand it.
[01:05:30]  I'll never be able to get inside the mind of somebody who can self-promote like that.
[01:05:35]  Yeah.
[01:05:35]  I just can't.
[01:05:36]  Well, you have to feel bad.
[01:05:38]  I assume.
[01:05:39]  You've got to.
[01:05:40]  You've got to.
[01:05:40]  Yeah.
[01:05:41]  Somehow.
[01:05:42]  There has to be a feeling of dirtiness.
[01:05:43]  Like, I'm pulling something on these people.
[01:05:47]  It is a lot like I'm hanging my hat on the like fucking.
[01:05:54]  I'm hanging my hat on movies and shit where it is like these types of Pearson go into their dressing room, take their hat mask off, and then they're like, oh, my love isn't.
[01:06:03]  And you're like, yeah, okay, fine.
[01:06:04]  Good.
[01:06:05]  At least that's going on.
[01:06:06]  If you go into that dressing room and you're just happy, I'm going to be furious.
[01:06:10]  Yeah, I think he's probably happy.
[01:06:12]  Yeah, I think so too.
[01:06:13]  So a lot of people say correctly that Owen Benjamin is a big old bigot and an anti-semite.
[01:06:19]  But he's not.
[01:06:21]  He just makes fun of the Jews like everybody else.
[01:06:24]  Wait, hold on.
[01:06:25]  I think I have this agenda.
[01:06:26]  Like people used to think that I had this anger against Jews, but it was just because I was misplaced by them like I'm Canadians or Christians or Muslims or Danish people or people in wheelchairs.
[01:06:38]  I just won't exclude people.
[01:06:40]  He just doesn't exclude people from mockery.
[01:06:42]  A point of clarity, Owen doesn't just make fun of the Jews.
[01:06:45]  He would go on long, drunk diatribes about things he didn't understand from the Talmud.
[01:06:49]  He'd constantly say that the Jews are evil and of Satan.
[01:06:52]  These weren't jokes that he was making and they weren't political statements.
[01:06:56]  It was just hate.
[01:06:57]  People correctly categorized him and that hurt his feelings because Owen believes that he's entitled to say whatever he wants wherever he wants.
[01:07:03]  And if anybody calls him out for it being full of vicious hate, then he feels like he's entitled to dodge that by pretending it's all jokes, thereby making the offended party the aggressor.
[01:07:11]  They're in the wrong.
[01:07:13]  He's just an intellectual coward and a really, really bad comedian.
[01:07:17]  Can't really think of much else to say except sort of repeat that.
[01:07:21]  Yeah.
[01:07:23]  Yeah.
[01:07:23]  You know what?
[01:07:24]  It's it, if someone had to become a Nazi, sure, at least we didn't lose a good comic.
[01:07:30]  You know what I mean?
[01:07:31]  That is a good point.
[01:07:32]  Yeah.
[01:07:32]  That's a good point.
[01:07:33]  Because there are a lot of people who have an interesting perspective and a gift with performance.
[01:07:39]  And it's a bummer.
[01:07:40]  It's a bummer to see them go directions that are.
[01:07:45]  And I will say there are a lot of people that I've met with the talent, the skills, and all that stuff.
[01:07:50]  And then some of the views that if they were to start tossing those about in public, not going to go well for them.
[01:07:57]  True.
[01:07:57]  You know what they do?
[01:07:58]  Keep it quiet.
[01:07:59]  Just don't say it.
[01:08:00]  They just don't say it.
[01:08:02]  Well, on that level, obviously, I don't think it's good that Owen says what he says, but him believing this in private and still acting this way, maybe, I don't know.
[01:08:14]  I don't know if that would be worse.
[01:08:16]  You know, I feel like at least he's being upfront about what kind of a piece of shit he is.
[01:08:21]  But I don't know if I actually believe that because he is influencing a lot of people.
[01:08:24]  And he has these followers who wouldn't be following him if he shut up.

=== Owen's Special Situation (08:50) ===

[01:08:28]  Sure.
[01:08:29]  I mean, I'll take a person with the most racist thoughts in their brain who's never done anything racist over the person who's created a bear-themed compound in Idaho.
[01:08:40]  Yeah.
[01:08:41]  Yeah.
[01:08:42]  I guess that's fair.
[01:08:43]  Yeah.
[01:08:43]  So in the sixth clip, Owen whines about his special situation.
[01:08:48]  You know what I bet might have happened?
[01:08:50]  Owen Benjamin might have texted Alex and he has him saved in his phone.
[01:08:53]  He's like, Owen, and he thinks it's Schroyer.
[01:08:55]  That could be.
[01:08:57]  That could totally be.
[01:08:58]  That could totally be.
[01:09:00]  Owen B or O and S, he just Owen and opened the text.
[01:09:03]  Yep.
[01:09:04]  Yep.
[01:09:04]  Shit.
[01:09:04]  God damn it.
[01:09:05]  Read receipts are on.
[01:09:08]  If he has read receipts on, I'm going to be so mad.
[01:09:12]  So Owen wides a little bit here about the situation that he has with his special.
[01:09:17]  You know, with the whole third-party company possibly owning the footage.
[01:09:21]  Yeah, that's not good.
[01:09:22]  Yeah.
[01:09:22]  And then Alex says we need to laugh.
[01:09:24]  We got to laugh.
[01:09:24]  So it's like, that's just what I, and so I got an offer for your audience that's a really interesting thing that happened to me today.
[01:09:31]  Because yesterday I was selling my special for $20 at OwenBenjamin.com.
[01:09:35]  Too much.
[01:09:36]  And we raised over, we made over 30 grand in like three days.
[01:09:39]  It was insane.
[01:09:41]  And I was just about to start doing interviews and promote it.
[01:09:43]  And the camera guy started getting real weird about money and he wanted more of a percentage and he said he owned it and all this stuff.
[01:09:51]  So I just said, screw you.
[01:09:52]  And I returned everyone's money and now it's free.
[01:09:56]  So if anyone wants to see it, it's now free because I don't negotiate with financial terrorists.
[01:10:01]  So now he can have 100%.
[01:10:04]  Notice the absence of me saying get up.
[01:10:06]  We refunded everyone's money.
[01:10:08]  And anybody who wants to, it's like perfect timing.
[01:10:10]  Like, right as this world's getting so wacky with whispers.
[01:10:14]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:10:14]  We didn't talk before we went on.
[01:10:16]  Whispers of war?
[01:10:17]  Because I almost, I wanted you on weeks ago, and I said, oh, he's on today.
[01:10:21]  I almost tried to move because all the war news.
[01:10:23]  And I said, no, we need to laugh right now at the edge of destruction.
[01:10:27]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:10:28]  Yeah, man.
[01:10:29]  We need to laugh.
[01:10:30]  Yeah.
[01:10:31]  I don't buy any of that.
[01:10:34]  That's such a bizarre turn of events.
[01:10:37]  Because if you're selling your special and everything is going well and that's your plan, and then somebody who doesn't actually have rights to this says, hey, I have rights to this.
[01:10:47]  You tell them to fuck themselves because you have your bases covered.
[01:10:51]  I feel like maybe there was just something that Owen, some T he didn't cross, some I he didn't dot, and he fucked up and this guy owned his shit.
[01:10:59]  Oh my God.
[01:11:02]  I would imagine he probably went through a disreputable vanity.
[01:11:07]  Oh, really?
[01:11:07]  Yeah.
[01:11:08]  Oh, really?
[01:11:08]  The sort of person who would still work with it.
[01:11:11]  Would be disreputable?
[01:11:12]  I would suggest they went through a disreputable vanity production place.
[01:11:16]  And whenever he was reading the contract, he did not realize that they owned all of his footage.
[01:11:20]  Oh, man.
[01:11:21]  He's the kind of guy who's going to get Warner Brothers.
[01:11:27]  He's going to get.
[01:11:27]  Does Rebecca Black still own Friday, or did that company that made it for her own it?
[01:11:33]  Does she not, she doesn't own her own master?
[01:11:37]  Strange choice for you to make.
[01:11:39]  That's a reference from how long ago?
[01:11:41]  Is that old?
[01:11:42]  Is that young?
[01:11:42]  I don't know anymore.
[01:11:43]  That's pretty old.
[01:11:45]  Pretty old.
[01:11:45]  But there has been a reassessment of Rebecca Black's place in history and how unfairly we all treat her.
[01:11:51]  Whatever.
[01:11:51]  I've done her very wrong.
[01:11:53]  I agree with that, but I want to know if she owns her own master.
[01:11:57]  I have to assume.
[01:11:58]  Well, I think so, because wasn't it a thing where her dad paid a bunch of money to make the track?
[01:12:05]  Right.
[01:12:05]  And stuff?
[01:12:07]  I think they did.
[01:12:08]  You think he.
[01:12:08]  Well, because he probably negotiated.
[01:12:10]  She didn't get a major release.
[01:12:12]  It only became popular because people were making fun of it.
[01:12:14]  Right, I understand, but it's not important.
[01:12:16]  It's whether or not you own the master, man.
[01:12:19]  She's got to have songwriting right now.
[01:12:21]  Guarantee.
[01:12:23]  Whatever the reality of that is, she did a better job than Owen Benjamin.
[01:12:27]  I agree with you.
[01:12:29]  Yes.
[01:12:31]  And she's not relying on it for.
[01:12:33]  No.
[01:12:34]  But it's not.
[01:12:34]  We got to laugh, man.
[01:12:37]  Just like after 9-11 when Gilbert Godfrey went into the aristocrats, this is what I need from Owen Benjamin right now.
[01:12:44]  And I think he's going to step up.
[01:12:45]  I think he is going to step into the shoes of one of the greatest comedians that you've ever seen.
[01:12:51]  I think he's got it.
[01:12:52]  He doesn't.
[01:12:53]  Nothing is really funny about this.
[01:12:56]  They play some of his clips of his stand-up, and they're really not good.
[01:13:01]  Yeah.
[01:13:03]  He has one joke that's basically about how if people come up to him and say that they're gay, he tells them to get lost.
[01:13:10]  You don't have to put up with it.
[01:13:12]  I'm sorry?
[01:13:12]  Yeah.
[01:13:13]  Nobody thinks you got to put up with them because they're gay.
[01:13:15]  Get lost.
[01:13:18]  It's like, what?
[01:13:20]  As far as, I mean, what a bit.
[01:13:23]  If there wasn't, like, yeah, that is, that is, if Kindler was doing that, you'd be like, that man is a genius.
[01:13:30]  Parody, yes.
[01:13:33]  If it was like a take on like Owen Benjamin, yes.
[01:13:38]  Also, another very upsetting thing about this is Owen's pretty big on family and stuff like that.
[01:13:42]  He has a bunch of kids and what have you.
[01:13:44]  Sure.
[01:13:44]  But unfortunately, this bleeds into his special because you can hear a baby crying through a bit of it.
[01:13:51]  Oh, my God.
[01:13:52]  So you can just kind of hear.
[01:13:53]  That's unreal.
[01:13:54]  Yeah.
[01:13:55]  Hear him saying very, very horrible things and then a baby cry.
[01:13:58]  Oh, man.
[01:13:59]  I wouldn't want anyone.
[01:14:01]  That's actually unintentionally kind of funny.
[01:14:03]  Yeah, there is that.
[01:14:05]  I wouldn't want somebody to play my clips while I was there.
[01:14:09]  No.
[01:14:09]  That's a terrible idea.
[01:14:11]  I'm there.
[01:14:11]  I'll perform them for you.
[01:14:12]  That's live comedy.
[01:14:14]  We're not going to watch my clips together.
[01:14:16]  That's an insane person's move.
[01:14:18]  Right.
[01:14:18]  A normal interview like this might involve a little pre-interview where you guys come with a couple of people.
[01:14:25]  You're going to set up for my bits, and then I'll do the bits.
[01:14:28]  Much like happened with me and Man Cow.
[01:14:30]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:14:31]  Yeah.
[01:14:31]  They ask you a few questions and they give you a few softballs to lob up your bits.
[01:14:35]  God does the worst.
[01:14:36]  Oh, boy.
[01:14:37]  Anyway, Owen, this is the last clip we're going to hear from him in the farce section.
[01:14:41]  And it's just kind of some dumb homophobia on his part.
[01:14:44]  Good.
[01:14:44]  I don't think the elite class just love rollerblading and soybeans.
[01:14:49]  I think they want less people and they want to break family units because if you have a sodomite vegan addict that's depressed and thinks that there's no God and we're in an infinite hell or whatever, you can get them to work for less money.
[01:15:04]  You can get them to travel around the world slave.
[01:15:08]  But if you have a man with a family, you know, because Deanus is not a sex organ and you get with a woman and you have children, that man is going to stand for principles.
[01:15:16]  He's going to stand for the American way of life.
[01:15:18]  And he's a lot harder to control.
[01:15:21]  And it's so obvious.
[01:15:24]  You know, it's so obvious that that's the point.
[01:15:26]  And, you know, just pump him up with fluoride and vaccines and get him gay.
[01:15:30]  That way you can be like, we'll pay you whatever.
[01:15:33]  And people will just take it because they have no pride in their self.
[01:15:37]  They don't have a connection to their creator.
[01:15:39]  So that's so stupid that it really, really makes me think, is this a parody?
[01:15:47]  That has to be.
[01:15:48]  He's trying to be funny with that.
[01:15:49]  Well, he is trying to be funny.
[01:15:51]  Right.
[01:15:51]  But I also think that he's trying to make the underlying point that he's making.
[01:15:57]  No.
[01:16:00]  His point is if you make people sad, you can pay them less.
[01:16:07]  And gay.
[01:16:08]  If you make people sad and gay, then you can pay them less.
[01:16:11]  Yeah.
[01:16:12]  Yeah.
[01:16:12]  That's not even a point.
[01:16:14]  Because if you have, you know, heterosexual sex and you have children, you will stand up for yourself and God and country.
[01:16:21]  I mean, that's just mad libs.
[01:16:24]  He's got no words.
[01:16:26]  He's got blank, blank, blank stand up for God and country.
[01:16:29]  But I honestly don't think.
[01:16:31]  Okay, yes.
[01:16:32]  Clearly he's trying to be funny in the way he's wording things.
[01:16:34]  Like the anus isn't a sex organ.
[01:16:36]  Right.
[01:16:37]  He's trying to be funny in the Alex Jones space, the Alex Jones genre.
[01:16:42]  But the point that he's making is not like just complete non-sequitur.
[01:16:47]  This isn't something I'm, this isn't a point that I'm trying to make.
[01:16:50]  Yeah.
[01:16:51]  That's the part that's disconcerting because it feels like it feels like a it if no one could possibly believe no one could possibly believe that.
[01:16:59]  Yeah, but that cannot be a thing someone believes.
[01:17:02]  It sort of tracks with a lot of the other things I've heard him say too.

=== DMT and the Realms Beyond (15:57) ===

[01:17:04]  So that's kind of why I'm inclined to think it's not a joke.
[01:17:08]  Yeah, you know, sometimes I feel like we lose just because whenever it's like, know your enemy.
[01:17:12]  And it's like, every time I feel like I know my enemy, I hear something like that and I go like, who are these people?
[01:17:17]  Where are you from?
[01:17:19]  What is your magical worldview like?
[01:17:21]  How does anybody listen to you twice?
[01:17:24]  Yeah.
[01:17:24]  How do you do the living thing?
[01:17:27]  It's amazing.
[01:17:28]  I can't imagine functioning as a machine if I functioned like you.
[01:17:33]  It's crazy.
[01:17:35]  Yeah.
[01:17:35]  So we're done with the farce.
[01:17:37]  Okay.
[01:17:37]  And now we reach complete nonsense bullshit.
[01:17:40]  Here we go.
[01:17:41]  So Alex is complaining a bit about DMT.
[01:17:48]  He's talking.
[01:17:49]  I'm sorry?
[01:17:50]  He's hearkening back to when he was on Rogan and he broke down how the people are taking DMT and they're seeing aliens and shit.
[01:17:58]  Sure.
[01:17:59]  Has he taken DMT recently?
[01:18:00]  He has not.
[01:18:01]  And he's never.
[01:18:01]  Oh, God.
[01:18:02]  And we're going to get to the reason why.
[01:18:03]  Oh, no.
[01:18:04]  There's a very good reason why.
[01:18:05]  Damn it.
[01:18:05]  First of all, he doesn't need DMT.
[01:18:07]  He's crazy enough.
[01:18:08]  That's not how he would put it.
[01:18:10]  But there's other reasons.
[01:18:11]  Okay.
[01:18:12]  Strap it in.
[01:18:12]  All right.
[01:18:13]  They've had since the 70s a secret project interveniously keeping people under for up to 10 hours is what I was told.
[01:18:22]  People that ran the project.
[01:18:23]  Stubblebine.
[01:18:24]  In San Francisco and London.
[01:18:28]  With people on intervenious drip.
[01:18:30]  Interesting.
[01:18:31]  Keeping them on a DMT, pure DMT hide.
[01:18:34]  Because if you take ayahuasca, but it metabolizes in the gut, so you're basically passed out or out of your mind for 10 hours.
[01:18:41]  You take DMT pure from the tote or whatever and smoke it, then you are down to the bottom.
[01:18:46]  This is like a six-year-old conception of what's going on.
[01:18:49]  It doesn't matter whether it's a Buddhist or a Muslim or a Christian or a Hindu or an atheist.
[01:18:54]  When you take the DMT, you see space aliens.
[01:19:01]  You see other dimensions.
[01:19:03]  They give you advanced knowledge.
[01:19:04]  They tell you things that are going to happen in the future.
[01:19:06]  Even if you're a Buddhist?
[01:19:08]  That's all around us.
[01:19:09]  Our sight is a tiny spectrum of the light bandwidth.
[01:19:12]  We're basically like blind because we couldn't operate over seeing everything else going on around us.
[01:19:18]  But our third eye can see it, the pineal gland.
[01:19:21]  When we sleep, don't just wargame what's happening in our lives.
[01:19:24]  Some of the dreams are interdimensional or astral projection, whatever you want to call it.
[01:19:28]  The spirit world is more real than the third dimension.
[01:19:31]  All right, Alex.
[01:19:32]  So you take DMT and see the future.
[01:19:34]  All right.
[01:19:35]  Okay, so we've aligned our chakras.
[01:19:37]  Our pineal glands are open and ready to see the thing.
[01:19:42]  Alex only talks about the things he can prove, man.
[01:19:45]  Alex is really like a hard information and proof kind of guy.
[01:19:49]  He doesn't just take the ramblings of an old lunatic like Alfred Stubblebind and translate them into bizarre fantasies about how if you take DMT, you can see the future and commune with entities that give you.
[01:20:03]  But here's the thing.
[01:20:04]  He's talking about how it allows you to see these things.
[01:20:07]  Yeah.
[01:20:08]  That it's just, you know, you don't see it because of the spectrum of light or whatever.
[01:20:12]  I think that is his way of rationalizing why he sees demons.
[01:20:15]  That would make sense.
[01:20:16]  Like he has the ability that you get from DMT.
[01:20:21]  I mean, I have a lot of the abilities that people get from cocaine, so I'll take that.
[01:20:27]  Slight difference, but sure, sure.
[01:20:31]  I don't think you should be, and this is, I think, just from our lives, since I was born, I have seen middle-aged and older people who have never done drugs tell me all about the things that drugs do.
[01:20:45]  Every generation, it's something new, too.
[01:20:47]  Yeah.
[01:20:47]  Marijuana, LSD, mushrooms.
[01:20:50]  I just, if you want to talk about drugs, you have to just do some drugs and then tell me about them.
[01:20:58]  You can't not do DMT and talk to me about them.
[01:21:01]  By the way, that's just a rule.
[01:21:03]  By the way, while we're on the topic of drugs, I have gotten a little bit of feedback from people who know somebody who did heroin once, but nobody who's done heroin once.
[01:21:16]  Tells me something.
[01:21:18]  A lot of the traditional.
[01:21:19]  Oh, I know somebody.
[01:21:20]  Right.
[01:21:20]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:21:21]  No, the person.
[01:21:22]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:21:23]  Everybody in my school knows the one guy who did it one time.
[01:21:27]  I know the guy who didn't tell me about the second time he did heroin.
[01:21:30]  Yeah, right?
[01:21:32]  Anyway, Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, anybody who does DMT sees aliens.
[01:21:38]  Right.
[01:21:39]  And they tell them the future, which is real.
[01:21:41]  It's actually the future.
[01:21:42]  Right.
[01:21:43]  But.
[01:21:43]  Doesn't that?
[01:21:44]  Doesn't that?
[01:21:45]  Wouldn't that like completely negate all of the religions that he just mentioned there?
[01:21:50]  Wouldn't they be?
[01:21:51]  It would be tough, it would be hard to reconcile.
[01:21:54]  And also, I've I've known a lot of people who have gotten into DMT and those idiots did not see the future.
[01:22:00]  Well, that's unfortunate.
[01:22:02]  But look yeah, if you're a Christian, something else happens.
[01:22:06]  What spoiler alert.
[01:22:08]  Okay, you're attacked by a giant mantis.
[01:22:10]  That makes sense.
[01:22:10]  If you're a Christian and you take DMT, on average you get attacked by demons, 100 foot the most common thing is a hundred foot tall um, exactly 100 feet.
[01:22:21]  Pregnanis that tries to break your will, because they know they don't have your will will.
[01:22:25]  Basically, a follower of Christ and haven't been born again.
[01:22:29]  They, They go, oh, we're here to help you.
[01:22:31]  But the more you take it, the more you get in league with them.
[01:22:35]  They're little elves in green uniforms, little green and black uniforms.
[01:22:38]  They wear little elf masks.
[01:22:39]  They take those off later.
[01:22:40]  They don't like you.
[01:22:41]  This is what happens everywhere.
[01:22:44]  The government knows this.
[01:22:45]  Plastic masks?
[01:22:46]  Because you don't go to a foreign star to talk to aliens.
[01:22:49]  You take these drugs and you're now in there.
[01:22:52]  And again, the higher order, the angels than God that created them, they don't interface with you unless you've opened it up and God's authorizing.
[01:22:59]  They've got better drugs.
[01:23:00]  It's very rare.
[01:23:01]  And that's why Alex is so special is because he's interfaced with God and all these other angels.
[01:23:05]  All right.
[01:23:06]  Uh-huh.
[01:23:06]  Wait.
[01:23:07]  Yeah.
[01:23:07]  But I feel like you have some questions.
[01:23:09]  Okay.
[01:23:09]  No.
[01:23:10]  Is it about the will challenging?
[01:23:13]  Yeah, well, I mean, here's what we're dealing with.
[01:23:15]  He's very much suggesting that the will challenging mantis is real.
[01:23:19]  Oh, yeah.
[01:23:20]  If the other things are real.
[01:23:22]  If you could see it.
[01:23:22]  Yes.
[01:23:23]  It's like probably right there.
[01:23:24]  I mean, that's what I'm saying.
[01:23:25]  I mean, it is.
[01:23:26]  The mantis is dipping its little toes into Lake Michigan.
[01:23:29]  I mean, and I feel like that's why that's the only reason so many people survive DMT trips is because the mantis, despite being 100 feet tall, or perhaps because of it, only desires defeating the will of its prey.
[01:23:44]  Certainly.
[01:23:44]  As opposed to, you know.
[01:23:46]  So, but the other thing, too, is that that really only happens for born-again Christians.
[01:23:51]  If you're not a born-again Christian, you go in there and I don't know.
[01:23:56]  Maybe the mantis says, hey, how you doing, buddy?
[01:23:59]  Maybe you hang out with the mantis.
[01:24:01]  Or are all of the elves that he's describing actually forming together like a Voltron to make the Mantis?
[01:24:10]  That seems to make the most sense to me.
[01:24:11]  Is that the Mantis is actually hundreds of little elves or demons wearing elf masks?
[01:24:18]  I think you're asking if it's a plastic mask.
[01:24:21]  Yeah.
[01:24:21]  I think it's like the Spider-Man mask that Tony Stark remade.
[01:24:25]  Okay, okay.
[01:24:26]  The one that goes blip.
[01:24:27]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:24:28]  I can see that.
[01:24:29]  I immediately went directly to like a little piece of paper and the little elastic band around it.
[01:24:37]  I think that would be fun because they are so high-tech and they know the future and all this stuff.
[01:24:42]  It would be a fun, it would be playful for them to have little paper masks.
[01:24:46]  Just little paper masks.
[01:24:47]  We drew them ourselves.
[01:24:48]  Yeah, that'd be great.
[01:24:49]  That would be so disarming.
[01:24:50]  And then probe away.
[01:24:52]  Even if you're a clockwork elf or whatever, you got a craft.
[01:24:56]  You gotta have a hobby.
[01:24:58]  You gotta express yourself some way.
[01:25:00]  Indeed.
[01:25:01]  So the real thing that's going on here is that Alex is talking about how he talked about DMT on Rogan's show.
[01:25:09]  Right.
[01:25:09]  And then now he's mad because Jordan Peterson was talking about DMT.
[01:25:14]  He's fucking Peterson.
[01:25:15]  A little jealous, a little petty.
[01:25:18]  And the globalists and their demon controllers hate you because you're made in the image of God.
[01:25:23]  And if you can see your spiritual self, it's spectacular.
[01:25:26]  I've seen it.
[01:25:27]  I've seen my spiritual body.
[01:25:29]  It's just like, what the hell is that?
[01:25:31]  That's unbelievable.
[01:25:32]  And I'm like nothing compared to, you know, why are there eight legs and it looks so evil?
[01:25:39]  And if you realized how powerful you were and the intrinsic jealousy of creatures and entities and all these worlds and all these systems and all this energy that shows Satan, it fundamentally hates you.
[01:25:54]  But you've had your memory wiped and don't know who you are.
[01:25:58]  And so that's the test.
[01:26:01]  It is the test.
[01:26:03]  That's a fair test.
[01:26:04]  You're not told who you are in this boot camp.
[01:26:09]  But then God does a little cheat sheet and will let you know once you've gone through certain tests.
[01:26:14]  What?
[01:26:15]  So that's what this is.
[01:26:16]  You don't remember this from the Churchiest of New World Order.
[01:26:18]  There are no aid, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers.
[01:26:21]  Folks, they worship the devil.
[01:26:24]  It came out when they leaked the documents in the 70s to the Frank Church Committee.
[01:26:29]  What?
[01:26:31]  That God has a cheat sheet?
[01:26:35]  It's Skull and Bones.
[01:26:37]  They spend weeks in coffins being defecated on and being urinated on.
[01:26:42]  And it's even in the Good Shepherd movie that Matt Damon that was produced by Robert De Niro.
[01:26:53]  That's in the movie.
[01:26:54]  That's actually in the congressional reports.
[01:26:56]  Trying to get an entity to take them over as an avatar.
[01:27:00]  All right.
[01:27:00]  Nobody called from the Middle East.
[01:27:01]  That's fine.
[01:27:02]  The phones are completely open.
[01:27:04]  877-789-877-789-2539.
[01:27:11]  Now, open discussion about it.
[01:27:13]  What you think's going on?
[01:27:14]  What's happening?
[01:27:14]  877-789-2539.
[01:27:17]  The phones are now completely open for everybody on that topic.
[01:27:20]  Okay, so getting back to what I was saying: here is Jordan Peterson.
[01:27:24]  So now people are going to listen talking about him.
[01:27:26]  So here's a couple threads that are going on here.
[01:27:29]  The first and funniest is Alex's personification of the divine.
[01:27:33]  There's these otherworldly entities and realms out there, but yet they operate based on petty human emotions, like ones that Alex clearly struggles with.
[01:27:42]  Yeah.
[01:27:42]  Like jealousy.
[01:27:44]  Speaking of jealousy, this is part of an approximately 20-minute rant Alex goes on in the third hour about how he was talking about DMT and the demons back when he went on Rogan's show, but now Jordan Peterson is saying all this stuff, and now people are going to listen.
[01:27:56]  No one cares about it when Alex says these things, but now that Peterson's getting in the game, everyone's going to care, and no one's going to credit Alex with this.
[01:28:03]  Oh, my God.
[01:28:03]  Naturally, Alex plays this clip of Jordan Peterson saying this shit about DMT and then comes back with this clip.
[01:28:09]  Yeah, so it turns out that's Peterson years ago.
[01:28:12]  The point is, this is all real.
[01:28:14]  This is happening.
[01:28:15]  So we didn't get any calls from Israel or wherever.
[01:28:17]  They normally do for a reason they're not calling in.
[01:28:20]  Gaza's trips has their power turned off most places.
[01:28:23]  So we're going to take your calls in general on the conflict.
[01:28:26]  I'm just, you know, blown away that the entire premise of his rant was bullshit.
[01:28:31]  That's nuts.
[01:28:32]  Glad to hear Alex was able to move on from that invalidation of his premise so easily about Jordan Peterson.
[01:28:37]  Now people who listen to me, oh, wait, that was years ago.
[01:28:40]  What a loser.
[01:28:42]  That was a blistering one-two punch.
[01:28:46]  You know, that, oh, it was from years ago.
[01:28:48]  Who cares?
[01:28:50]  I don't know.
[01:28:50]  People didn't call from wherever the fuck is going on.
[01:28:53]  I don't know.
[01:28:53]  What is that?
[01:28:54]  Probably power's out for some reason.
[01:28:56]  Oh, no.
[01:28:56]  We'll see.
[01:28:57]  Hey, maybe, maybe you guys should work harder to call me next time.
[01:29:01]  Great.
[01:29:02]  Cool.
[01:29:02]  I have noticed this thing that generally when Alex puts out the call for various callers from specific places, they really never call in.
[01:29:11]  No.
[01:29:11]  And then he ends up talking to that weirdo Carlos and a couple of other regular callers.
[01:29:16]  Owl Killer.
[01:29:17]  Owl Killer?
[01:29:18]  That's one of his regular callers.
[01:29:19]  Yeah, there's these people who just keep coming up.
[01:29:22]  Same with, like, they're not just not as fun versions of Louisiana Dentures and Old Man House phone.
[01:29:26]  Yeah, Owl Killer should be a slam dunk for Louisiana Dentures level.
[01:29:31]  And if this is the first I'm hearing of them, garbage jobs.
[01:29:34]  Well, you've heard the name before because Alex will like rattle off the callers that are coming.
[01:29:38]  Sure, sure.
[01:29:39]  One of them is often Owl Killer.
[01:29:41]  Right, right, right, right.
[01:29:42]  So anyway, Alex does not need DMT.
[01:29:45]  Never has, never will.
[01:29:46]  And it's very real.
[01:29:50]  And they're influencing what's happening on Earth.
[01:29:52]  So these demons.
[01:29:53]  Aliens, demons, it's interchangeable.
[01:29:55]  In my view, it's the same thing.
[01:29:56]  I really feel like your Bible is.
[01:29:58]  I already have a connection with God.
[01:29:59]  I already have discernment.
[01:30:00]  My brain is already pointed where it is.
[01:30:02]  A lot of folks that are good people want me to take DMT.
[01:30:05]  And I'm not taking it because I'm like, I already have these dreams every night.
[01:30:09]  And I already, and I know the people that aren't Christians, real Christians, they don't have the bad events.
[01:30:17]  I was over the decades talking to Christians that take it, it's horrible because they know they're not going to fool you.
[01:30:23]  They know you're not going to get you.
[01:30:24]  And you beam into hell.
[01:30:27]  Because, you know, hell's the only thing that's going to rape your consciousness when you open the gate.
[01:30:31]  Imagine you're just opening the door.
[01:30:33]  Wait, what?
[01:30:33]  You're in the universe.
[01:30:34]  You're protected by God.
[01:30:36]  You take a drug that blows that away.
[01:30:38]  And now you're in a cage with 100-foot Crank Mantis.
[01:30:42]  That's the main thing that attacks.
[01:30:44]  And it's got scurrying aliens from the alien all around it.
[01:30:48]  And Geiger, who was a Satanist, said he had visions and drugs of those.
[01:30:51]  All right.
[01:30:51]  Geeker aliens.
[01:30:52]  Does not sound fun to me.
[01:30:56]  But that's the reality of this.
[01:30:58]  You're out there and a facehugger comes out of the hundred-foot mantis.
[01:31:03]  I think this is all cute and fun.
[01:31:05]  Sure.
[01:31:06]  And I named that clip Alex Dreams of the Mantis at Night.
[01:31:09]  I like that.
[01:31:10]  That's a good idea.
[01:31:10]  That's a good title.
[01:31:11]  Does Alex dream of electric mantis?
[01:31:14]  Probably.
[01:31:14]  So I think that typically, you know, my understanding, and this is true generally of psychedelics and things that have hallucinogenic effects, a lot of the time, what you're experiencing is kind of a breaking down of your ego.
[01:31:28]  Yeah.
[01:31:28]  And a seeing through of subconscious thoughts and things that you yourself are struggling with.
[01:31:35]  Sure.
[01:31:35]  And so I wouldn't be too surprised if the born-again Christians that Alex seems to know who did DMT have some real problems that they're wrestling with internally that maybe they've lost touch with.
[01:31:47]  So you take a hallucinogen that's particularly powerful, you lose control of your ability to block out these thoughts.
[01:31:53]  And maybe they're manifested as a hundred-foot mantis.
[01:31:58]  Maybe not consistently, but maybe Man Cow saw that.
[01:32:01]  And that's why Alex is.
[01:32:02]  Because Man Cow is going to those ayahuasca retreats.
[01:32:04]  Oh, yeah, that's true.
[01:32:05]  So I think that a lot of this is coming from him.
[01:32:07]  Yeah, that makes the most sense.
[01:32:08]  And based on my very brief encounter with Man Cow, I would say he's struggling with some stuff.
[01:32:14]  Yeah, I would say he's got a lot going on in his life.
[01:32:16]  So I think that basically what Alex is telling on his friends, basically, for being really conflicted individuals who end up in horrible strife when they do hallucinogens because they've lost control of the connection that they have with their inner self.
[01:32:32]  Yeah, it is such a bummer.
[01:32:36]  You can be so much of an asshole, you can't even do drugs.
[01:32:39]  Yeah.
[01:32:40]  That's brutal.
[01:32:41]  Well, ideally, what you'd hope is that you can have a humbling moment with those drugs and come together and bring these pieces of yourself into a more harmonious place.

=== Steps Toward The Goal (09:16) ===

[01:32:54]  You'd think.
[01:32:54]  But that doesn't really tend to work.
[01:32:56]  Well, especially not for someone as headstrong and stubborn as Alex.
[01:32:59]  He will never listen to the mantis.
[01:33:01]  I will say that if you discover, if you look deep within yourself and you find yourself and yourself is a hundred-foot-tall mantis, I don't know if you are coming back from that.
[01:33:12]  Maybe you're just kind of a piece of shit.
[01:33:15]  Yourself is a 100-foot-tall mantis in a cage that is trying to break your will.
[01:33:20]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:33:21]  You're the bad person here.
[01:33:22]  Right.
[01:33:23]  The mantis is you, buddy.
[01:33:24]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway.
[01:33:27]  Alex takes some calls.
[01:33:29]  None from the Middle East.
[01:33:30]  No.
[01:33:31]  Surprisingly.
[01:33:32]  Shocking.
[01:33:33]  And this caller, I just don't even know what's going on anymore.
[01:33:36]  Walter in California.
[01:33:37]  Go ahead.
[01:33:38]  You're on the air.
[01:33:39]  Walter Goggins?
[01:33:40]  Hello, how are you doing, sir?
[01:33:41]  Thank you so much for taking my call.
[01:33:43]  So back in mid-August, I took a trip to Austin, Texas to see what the buzz was all about.
[01:33:49]  Had a great time.
[01:33:51]  I recollect an experience where I had ordered an Uber to head to downtown Austin.
[01:34:00]  The individual who picked me up, he made his presence known in my dream later on that night.
[01:34:11]  One of the differences was that as soon as he appeared in my dream, his eyes went completely black.
[01:34:17]  What are we doing?
[01:34:19]  What is happening?
[01:34:22]  Oh, I thought the clip was going to keep going.
[01:34:25]  I genuinely, I was waiting for you to let this man go.
[01:34:28]  There's nothing really more than this.
[01:34:30]  He just dreamt of his Uber driver having black eyes.
[01:34:34]  Am I understanding that correctly?
[01:34:36]  Yeah.
[01:34:38]  He went to Austin to see what the buzz was about.
[01:34:40]  He got an Uber.
[01:34:41]  And then later that night, he went to bed and dreamt of his Uber driver.
[01:34:44]  I genuinely don't know why I find something about the way he said I went to Austin to find out what the buzz was about.
[01:34:51]  I find that genuinely both charming and funny.
[01:34:53]  Well, I think it's because Alex is in Austin and maybe build it up in your head if you're an Alex fan.
[01:34:57]  Maybe.
[01:34:59]  I like the turn of phrase: this driver made himself known to me.
[01:35:02]  He made himself known to me later in my dream.
[01:35:05]  Which was a hello, which is such an absurd way of describing.
[01:35:10]  He made himself known to me later.
[01:35:12]  Makes me think this guy might be a writer.
[01:35:14]  You know what I mean?
[01:35:15]  That seems like a writer kind of turn of phrase.
[01:35:18]  I mean, I will say that that seems like something that belongs on the page.
[01:35:22]  I would probably leave it there and then leave that page at home.
[01:35:26]  Morning pages.
[01:35:27]  So we got another caller.
[01:35:29]  Yeah.
[01:35:29]  And this guy and Alex end up engaging in.
[01:35:35]  I would say this is exactly how you would act if you wanted somebody to maybe stab a Muslim child.
[01:35:42]  Great.
[01:35:43]  The attacks are going to be here soon and very soon.
[01:35:45]  I don't know if you remember the Sean Hannity episode where he was talking about the Muslim encampment north of Jasper, Texas, over here in East Texas somewhere.
[01:35:55]  Yes.
[01:35:56]  You only saw that report one.
[01:35:58]  That camp went undisturbed.
[01:36:00]  It's still there.
[01:36:02]  I'm working in Beaumont right now, and the amount of Arab-looking people in this area is immense.
[01:36:13]  I mean, look at all the Islamic protests all over the country, all over Texas.
[01:36:16]  We are completely overrun.
[01:36:18]  And I agree, it's not like Red Dawn were attacked by Cuba.
[01:36:21]  The Globalists are bringing in their sleeper army, there's no doubt.
[01:36:25]  And they're here.
[01:36:26]  They're here.
[01:36:27]  The indication that this guy is in is they're Arab-looking people.
[01:36:32]  It's their invasion army, according to Alex.
[01:36:35]  I don't understand how any of this isn't just basically begging people to hurt Muslims.
[01:36:46]  I mean, imagine you're just at like a morning meeting and somebody's just outlining like the challenges your business is facing, you know, just in general.
[01:37:00]  Just like, oh, if we, this is a problem and these, we don't know exactly what we're going to do yet, but this is the goal.
[01:37:08]  And you should take steps when you're making decisions, you should take steps towards this goal.
[01:37:14]  Alex isn't just being like, oh, you should kill people or anything like that.
[01:37:19]  And this guy isn't just like, oh, you should kill people or anything.
[01:37:22]  Of course not.
[01:37:23]  But there is this almost like stated, like, here are the people.
[01:37:27]  Here are the players.
[01:37:28]  Here are the outlined goals.
[01:37:30]  Here's the thing to be afraid of.
[01:37:31]  Yep.
[01:37:32]  Here's the fear to apply to everybody in this class of people.
[01:37:36]  Yeah.
[01:37:36]  And at a certain point, you have to recognize that the guy giving the meeting is the person who is making those small steps towards the goal.
[01:37:45]  You know, it's the person who's sitting there going, directing everybody towards the goal.
[01:37:50]  Well, and here's what makes it even worse: is when that person who's giving the meeting explicitly tells you what will happen if this problem isn't solved, which Alex does.
[01:38:00]  No, you do not.
[01:38:01]  Ah, fuck that.
[01:38:02]  The biggest moth that I've seen is also in the middle of Port Arthur and Bowl.
[01:38:07]  And I'm not saying anybody to go do anything.
[01:38:09]  No, but the point is that Islam takes over any country it's in, and our government that claims it's opposing this is bringing it in.
[01:38:15]  I'll send the American people the main threat.
[01:38:17]  I appreciate your call.
[01:38:18]  All right, I'm going to do five more minutes before Kate Dalley takes over.
[01:38:20]  I'm going to talk to Ivan and Amy when we come back, but I got a plug right now or he won't be on air.
[01:38:24]  Unless he's a great product, you need you've heard the callers talk about DNA Force Plus.
[01:38:29]  You've heard him talk about Real Red Pill Plus.
[01:38:30]  You've heard him talk about Brain Force Plus, incredible Detropic.
[01:38:34]  So casually flips over to ads.
[01:38:37]  But you hear there the negative state that will happen if something isn't done, which is that Islam takes over every country that it's allowed to be in.
[01:38:48]  Is that the state of affairs you want to be in?
[01:38:50]  Well, in that case, Islam can't be here.
[01:38:53]  Not even a little bit.
[01:38:54]  Not even one.
[01:38:56]  These things are very easy connections that obviously listeners make.
[01:39:02]  Whether they act on it, whether it's extreme enough within them to hurt anybody or even treat anybody differently, that's an individual question on their end.
[01:39:16]  Alex can't control that.
[01:39:18]  But what he can control is the sort of stimulus that he puts into the equation.
[01:39:23]  And he is putting stimulus that can go very, very bad into that equation.
[01:39:28]  And it's intentional.
[01:39:30]  It's obvious that he can't be 20-something years into his fucking career and not be aware of this stuff.
[01:39:37]  Yeah.
[01:39:38]  Yeah, it's just another example of that fucking horrific cycle that they have.
[01:39:47]  Just that by me making you fear this thing, you enact violence upon that.
[01:39:54]  And then that thing becomes a source of fear forever because they're understandably pissed off.
[01:40:00]  And then you go back to Alex and he goes, well, see, look what happens.
[01:40:04]  And then you remove the idea of it's a person's fault by making it a false flag.
[01:40:08]  And then all of a sudden you have a perfect demon with no possible and Alex doesn't stand to exist in a world that doesn't have tension.
[01:40:19]  No.
[01:40:20]  You know, like lessening of tensions, more people getting along creates less of a space that his shit even matters.
[01:40:29]  Like there is no way that this show has any relevance in a peaceful world.
[01:40:34]  Yeah.
[01:40:34]  Like, and I think he knows that.
[01:40:36]  Yeah.
[01:40:38]  Anyway, look, this episode is fucked up, you know, because we can go from laughing at Owen Benjamin's dumbass to talking about the giant mantis to the harsh reality of Alex's stochastic intentions.
[01:40:52]  Yeah.
[01:40:53]  And back.
[01:40:54]  Yeah.
[01:40:55]  And then at the same time, you know, we already, you know, it was earlier in the episode, but we have the denial of an atrocity.
[01:41:03]  Like, regardless of who is, you know, ultimately responsible for that explosion happening, Alex pretending it's a parking lot and no one dying is a monstrous approach to dealing with the world.
[01:41:17]  Yeah.
[01:41:18]  And I don't know.
[01:41:19]  I don't know.
[01:41:22]  It's a portrait of just a fucked up show.
[01:41:26]  Imagine listening to this and not like, imagine not, I'm not saying in my shoes because I'm listening to this critically and I'm deconstructing somewhat.
[01:41:37]  Imagine listening to this as entertainment.
[01:41:40]  Imagine listening to this and being like, this guy is above board.
[01:41:45]  It's an unthinkable scenario.

=== Boop Boop Simplified (01:39) ===

[01:41:50]  Yeah.
[01:41:51]  Yeah.
[01:41:52]  No, getting back to your, how complex life is, like, thinking about all the different things that we've handled in just a short period of time.
[01:42:01]  It's a lot.
[01:42:02]  You know, and then I think about how all of that stuff makes me feel and trying to deal with it at once.
[01:42:07]  And it's like, yeah, it does make sense to want a simple version of the world.
[01:42:10]  Yeah.
[01:42:11]  It makes perfect sense.
[01:42:12]  And you want.
[01:42:12]  Don't get me wrong.
[01:42:13]  And you want a simple version of this stuff about Alex even.
[01:42:18]  Yeah.
[01:42:18]  You know, that he's just a.
[01:42:20]  I mean, granted, the simple version that he's a fucking liar is fair enough.
[01:42:23]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:42:24]  But to pretend like he is one thing, one kind of liar or whatever is that oversimplification.
[01:42:32]  Yep.
[01:42:32]  Yep.
[01:42:34]  Anyway, what you going to do?
[01:42:38]  I don't know, man.
[01:42:39]  But we'll be back.
[01:42:40]  Indeed, we will.
[01:42:41]  But until then, we have a website.
[01:42:42]  Indeed, we do.
[01:42:43]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[01:42:44]  Yep.
[01:42:44]  We're also on Twitter.
[01:42:45]  We are on Twitter.
[01:42:45]  It's at KnowledgeUnderscore Fight.
[01:42:47]  Yep.
[01:42:47]  We'll be back.
[01:42:48]  But until then, I'm Neo.
[01:42:49]  I'm Leo.
[01:42:50]  I'm DZX Clark.
[01:42:51]  I hate this beeping bit because.
[01:42:54]  I was going to say, it was not long for this world.
[01:42:57]  Well, coming back from the tour, especially, I just feel like every time I'm halfway to take on me, I need to do something else.
[01:43:05]  It's not a bit that I keep doing it in my head.
[01:43:08]  No, it's there.
[01:43:09]  It's just, if you go boop, boop, boop, boop, you're going to go to the bathroom.
[01:43:12]  You can't.
[01:43:14]  I'll come up with something new.
[01:43:16]  Yeah.
[01:43:16]  Woo!
[01:43:17]  Yeah.
[01:43:17]  And now here comes the sex robot.
[01:43:19]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[01:43:21]  Thanks for holding.
[01:43:23]  Hello, Alex.
[01:43:24]  I'm a first-time caller.
[01:43:25]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:43:26]  I love your work.