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Oct. 6, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
01:09:08
#856: Live In London (Night 1)

In this installment, Dan and Jordan podcast live from the Amersham Arms in London. Tune in to learn about the Tootsie Pop owl, the difference between the mind and brain, and much more.

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a
alex jones
13:48
d
dan friesen
26:30
j
jordan holmes
18:11
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max keiser
00:54
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
We're already training them with constant brainwashing and cars to worship Britannia and hate our ancestral enemies, the Frenchies.
Oh, the French!
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we are back live.
And now, for all of you Anglophiles out there, Prepare for the pain.
The funny thing is we're trying to save the dumbed-down, brutish people.
They are the attack dogs of the people that are soft-killing them.
And nothing against England.
I mean, I've got a lot of English in a lot of myself.
And one of my ancestors, Gresham, invented the stock exchange on record.
And the King of England is the sworn enemy of humanity.
He couldn't stand the Queen of England.
That's in mainline history books.
Because she was a nymphomaniac.
20 times a day.
unidentified
Oh, you didn't know that Queen Angle's husband was a Nazi?
alex jones
You didn't know his cousin that started the Bilderberg replace?
If you don't wake up and say no, you deserve to die.
And again, folks, I've got extensive British lineage.
So did George Washington, and he absolutely defeated the Transylvanian king.
unidentified
They're not British, they're not Scottish, they're not Irish, they're not Gaelic, they're not Viking.
alex jones
Prince Charles is the heir of Mount Dracula.
The Alta Kling doesn't run anything, folks.
She runs that whole country.
unidentified
She shuts down roads in England every day, randomly, to exercise her power.
alex jones
You don't have a snotty...
unidentified
Shut up!
Do you hear that I have a snark nose?
alex jones
I am Piers Morgan, my dear boy.
Go ahead, then.
unidentified
I have greens with my snook, my proboscis while I talk to you.
alex jones
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
The show is called 8 Out of 10 Cats, and this is how society is turning into a tyranny.
Everything is...
The Queen of England has now joined with the United States and the West.
And so the Transylvania Queen knows which way the wind is blowing and can see that Trump and America are winning.
Now she's coming in like the Deuce X. The hero that comes in at the last moment when the main hero is going to lose.
Queen Elizabeth with this action has now become a Han Solo of Deuce X at the moment.
unidentified
Live from the UK, it's Knowledge White.
alex jones
Uh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Andy and
unidentified
James Andy and James Andy and James Andy and James Andy and James Andy and James I love your work Knowledge fight Knowledge fight.com Knowledge fight.com I love you Everybody And Hello London I'm
Dan We're a couple of dudes who like to go all around the UK very sleepily and miss my cat Celine dearly and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, dude.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
I might have dual bright spots.
jordan holmes
Dual bright spots?
dan friesen
I think the first one is how panicked I was sitting backstage while my playlist played.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I could not stop telling Jordan, like, I don't know if this is the right Avril Lavigne song.
jordan holmes
I feel like being a teen woman is not going well for me right now.
dan friesen
I swear it's the most judged I ever feel is when I put on a song.
So we made it through.
But my real bright spot is I would say lodging in the UK.
jordan holmes
Is that you alone?
dan friesen
Nothing but great times, I will say.
jordan holmes
Great times.
dan friesen
Wonderful trip, but hotels here...
jordan holmes
Don't know how to do it.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
They just don't.
It's not your fault.
I assume it's like historical.
Your country is a million years old, so assumably, you're like, we don't have to be hospitable to anybody.
We conquered India, right?
Like, it's fine.
dan friesen
Glasgow wasn't too bad as a hotel situation.
But then we show up in Manchester, and...
We're put into a hotel.
jordan holmes
That's how you would describe it, too.
We were put into a hotel.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I'm up on the 12th floor.
I got no Wi-Fi.
And everything is not cool because I need Wi-Fi to do some work and stuff.
jordan holmes
It's kind of important.
dan friesen
And so Jordan, as the wonderful tour manager that he is, he pulled some strings and got me moved to a lower floor where theoretically there would be Wi-Fi.
He talked to the front desk and they said, the lowest we can go is the 10th floor.
jordan holmes
The 10th floor?
The lowest we can go is the 10th floor?
dan friesen
That's where there's openings.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's two floors at least.
That's fine.
What is that, 12 feet?
dan friesen
At least.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Six foot floors.
jordan holmes
I don't know how tall I am.
dan friesen
We didn't mention that.
That's the real bad part about the hotel.
Six foot floors.
So I talk to the person at the front desk and exchange my keys, and I end up on the seventh floor, which is mysterious because that's lower than the tenth.
jordan holmes
By the way, before he wound up on the seventh floor, the last words I said to the front desk was, please take care of Dan.
Now continue.
dan friesen
So I get a room on the seventh floor.
Get in there.
Still no Wi-Fi.
Great.
Also notice that there are exposed roof tiles that are really scary.
And I poke my head into the bathroom and there's drag marks of something.
And I'm like, this is a murder room.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
It did feel like if I were to grab two ankles and drag a body, those are the little marks that would be left behind.
dan friesen
Yeah, especially, I mean, it wasn't red, so it's like, especially if you really tried to clean it.
jordan holmes
Getting the wrong ammonia, so it just turned...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotcha.
dan friesen
I'm like, I'm not staying in this room.
Fuck this.
And so I go back down, and they put me back on the 12th floor.
But as I'm talking to the person, they're like, how did you get in that room?
I don't think people are supposed to be in there.
I'm like, that's a fucking murder room.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because there was a murder in that room!
dan friesen
Yes, exactly.
jordan holmes
They're still investigating that room!
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
I tampered.
dan friesen
I poked the ceiling tile.
I tampled your evidence.
jordan holmes
You're a suspect.
You left DNA behind me.
dan friesen
So, get up to the 12th floor.
Still no Wi-Fi.
We make it good.
Then we show up here in London.
I'm in a hotel.
My bathroom has a sewage leak.
So I have to use Jordan's shower.
jordan holmes
Yep, that's true.
dan friesen
Anyway, I want to get back to my cat.
It'll be worse now.
But everything else is wonderful.
It is just the hotels.
Everybody is wonderful.
Anyway, Jordan, I'm sorry.
I monopolized time.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Everything's great except for the parts that we are not doing right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
My great spot, Dan, is that I can see.
dan friesen
Whoa!
jordan holmes
I can see!
Look at my eyes.
I'm not wearing glasses right now because I left them on the train.
So...
Yesterday, I went to multiple optometrists to be like, hey, listen, I get you have laws.
Fine.
I'm not from here.
Let's forget about them.
Just give me two pairs of contacts.
That's all I need to get through two days.
And they're like, we have laws.
And I'm like, I get that.
I started with we have laws.
I opened with that.
dan friesen
Yeah, you were agreeing with that from the jump.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
But let's ignore them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this all happens, and after an almost excessive amount of badgering and me being this loud, they finally agreed to give me an eight-minute eye test.
Just to get laws out of the way.
And then they gave me exactly what I asked for.
And I couldn't, I couldn't just, because at the end of it, here's what I was thinking.
What I was thinking was like, once they give me the merchandise, Then I can say whatever I want to say.
And I chose against it.
dan friesen
Yeah?
jordan holmes
Polite.
dan friesen
You kept yourself together?
jordan holmes
I did.
dan friesen
How long were you yelling at them?
Was it more than the eight minute eye test?
jordan holmes
No, it was way more than the eight minute eye test.
It was a good half hour because I kept getting different answers.
Like, oh, we don't have an appointment until tomorrow.
And then it's like, let's talk a little bit more.
And they're like, ah, we don't have an appointment until like six o 'clock tonight.
And I'm like, you guys close at six o 'clock tonight.
They're like, we know.
And then eventually, after just talking, they're like, fuck it.
Come back in an hour.
The guy's available.
He'll poke your eyes with the...
And then that'll be it.
dan friesen
He's spitting your eye?
jordan holmes
No.
No, when you get the eye test, everybody knows the part where it goes...
Like that.
I got that, and then they gave me contact.
dan friesen
You know, the fact that there is an eight-minute eye test really calls into question how long those eye tests need to be.
jordan holmes
Sure does.
dan friesen
I feel like you have a new campaign.
unidentified
Bring this bullshit down!
jordan holmes
Listen, I'm against the monarchy, but first we've got to deal with eye tests.
dan friesen
Okay?
They're fucking with us, it's a charade.
jordan holmes
That's the idea.
dan friesen
So folks, we have a show here to do.
jordan holmes
Oh, we do?
dan friesen
Yeah, and so we are going to be talking about today, Jordan, October 30th, 2013.
jordan holmes
Alright.
That's Halloween, right?
dan friesen
Day before.
jordan holmes
Oh!
October has 31 days?
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
Okay, hold on.
dan friesen
Do you remember the rhyme?
jordan holmes
No, you do the hand thing, right?
unidentified
Hmm?
jordan holmes
Knuckles?
dan friesen
I don't.
unidentified
I don't.
dan friesen
I certainly don't.
jordan holmes
What is it?
My very easy...
dan friesen
Please excuse my dear Aunt Sally.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I thought I was going with the planets, but okay, that's fine.
dan friesen
I don't know how many...
I'm always surprised by how many days there are in a month.
Just let it ride.
I know one of them for sure.
Every four years, I'm off.
And then October I know for sure because it's the candy holiday.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
You love candy.
unidentified
And you love putting razor blades in other people's candy.
dan friesen
What was that weird sound I made?
As if I was lusting for candy right now.
I kind of am.
jordan holmes
Get this man a Haribo!
dan friesen
I have enjoyed, you know, everything that's bad about the hotels has been made up for by the wonderful candy selection.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it hasn't hurt.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's great.
So October 30th, 2013.
No idea why I would choose that day?
jordan holmes
Um, no.
dan friesen
Okay, so when I was planning out these shows, one of the things that was in my mind was that there's gonna be, you know, we're gonna be in the UK and that's where so much great music comes from.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's the sound that molded eras so often from here to the point where, you know, to pick out a best example, you'd have a really hard time.
So as I was poking around, I realized that today, when we're doing the show, September 26th is the anniversary of the release of Abbey Road, arguably the Beatles' best record.
No response.
jordan holmes
You know what's fun about that?
dan friesen
I said arguably.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, you started with arguably and everybody agreed to argue.
dan friesen
This is Dan Stile playing it safe.
So one of the best albums by one of history's most important bands came out on the day that we're doing a live show in London.
Yeah, almost too perfect.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
Yep, it is too perfect.
And it felt false for me as a person because I kind of like the Beatles, but as a kid I wasn't allowed to listen to music that my parents were construed as being inspired by drugs.
jordan holmes
I was hit with the switch and not allowed to listen to the Beatles.
dan friesen
I gained appreciation for the Beatles catalog through Beatles Rock Band.
And I'll probably never live down the moment when me and my buddies Nicky Gifts and Swearingen were playing a few songs and Yesterday came on and I recognized that song but I had no idea it was by the Beatles.
My dad let me listen to that but he kept the little secret that it was the Beatles from me.
jordan holmes
That is one of the weirder things I've ever heard.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I couldn't in good conscience do an episode where I pretended to love the Beatles.
If I were going to talk about British music, it needed to be something I truly loved.
And as far as I'm concerned, there's only two options.
jordan holmes
Avril Lavigne.
dan friesen
No, she's from Canada.
unidentified
Sorry.
dan friesen
Commonwealth country.
jordan holmes
It's basically the same thing.
dan friesen
The first option, Phil Collins.
He's had a career full of hits, both solo and with Genesis.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
But what really put him over the top is he did that cover of Home with Bone Thugs and Harmony.
jordan holmes
Was that it?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There is nothing cooler than seeing old man Phil Collins in a music video nodding along as Lazy Bone raps.
That puts him deep into the consideration.
jordan holmes
See, I always felt like his lasting legacy will just be...
unidentified
Boom!
jordan holmes
That's it.
dan friesen
Just doing that at a bar.
jordan holmes
Whenever we've forgotten all music, that will be the break that ends it.
Like at the end of time, as everything is crushed down into a white hole.
dan friesen
Hey man, you know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's physics.
And that'll be what plays.
dan friesen
As the earth explodes, it's just that drum beat.
jordan holmes
And it's Phil Collins' fault.
dan friesen
You know that song's about him watching someone watch someone drown.
jordan holmes
Bah.
unidentified
Ah.
Thanks.
dan friesen
So anyway, Phil Collins is not the winner here.
No one should be surprised that the winner is the Spice Girls.
The best musical act this fine country has ever produced.
And guess what?
September 26th is also the anniversary of the release of what might be their most iconic single, Say You'll Be There.
Certainly iconic in terms of the awakening of my sexuality as a young boy.
But look, here's the thing.
Alex has never had a good show on September 26th.
I listened to all of them.
They're all shit.
It was like the universe was playing a prank on me.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so I decided I would go Spice Girl by Spice Girl.
unidentified
I would go Spice Girl by Spice Girl.
dan friesen
One at a time!
Find their birthday.
jordan holmes
Each of their Achilles tendons, shall we...
unidentified
Wait.
dan friesen
So who's your favorite Spice Girl, Jordan?
jordan holmes
I swear to you, I've never listened to a Spice Girl song on purpose.
dan friesen
You're the music guy, and you've never listened to the Spice Girls.
jordan holmes
I just didn't do it, you know?
So I know...
I really feel uncomfortable that I...
Because I don't know if this is true, right?
Is there one called Scary Spice?
dan friesen
Yeah!
Ginger, baby, scary, sporty, posh.
unidentified
Can I ask you a quick question?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Which of them is non-white?
dan friesen
Scary.
Look, you're the one making a face.
jordan holmes
Maybe I didn't want to listen to the Spice Girls.
Just throwing that out there!
dan friesen
Alright, so you don't have a favorite Spice Girls.
I do!
My favorite was Sporty.
Because she was the one who didn't really get solo singing parts, but would just yell a bit.
I always felt a strong kinship to the one who was like, I don't be there!
Yeah, alright.
Anyway, Sporty Spice was born on January 12th.
And guess what?
Alex has never done a good show on January 12th.
jordan holmes
Just before we go any further, Dan told me recently that he listened to over 60 episodes that he did not use for this particular night.
dan friesen
And now we're finding out why.
unidentified
So we've got roughly 20 attributed to the Beatles.
jordan holmes
We've got 20 attributed to Sporty Spice.
dan friesen
Where are we going?
So then I kind of turned against the Spice Girls while prepping for this.
jordan holmes
Because Scary is the only non-white Spice Girl, and that's kind of fucked up.
dan friesen
Well, sure, I'll say it's that.
After listening to a ton of January 12th episodes of Alex's show and struggling to understand some of the Spice Girls' more problematic lyrics that don't age well, Spice Up Your Life, in particular, is a little dicey.
I decided to say fuck it and do the thing that I did not want to do, which was be the guy from the U.S. who loves talking about Oasis.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Sorry.
I was just the right age when What's the Story Morning Glory came out, and I still get emotional when I hear Don't Look Back in Anger.
All right?
Fine.
That and Wonderwall were basically like an unfair one-two punch for a 12-year-old to hear.
Plus, the nonsense lyrics of Champagne Supernova, that was better than whatever the Spice Girls were doing in, again, Spice Up Your Life.
Problematic.
Don't revisit it.
Anyway, I lost track of those dudes from Oasis around 1998, but I'm sure nothing eventful has happened for them in their lives.
unidentified
I think they just were preserved in amber from that time.
jordan holmes
There'll be a Jurassic Park about them.
dan friesen
So regardless of how much I wish this wasn't what I was doing, we're celebrating the anniversary of the release of Wonderwall.
So that was October 30th.
jordan holmes
I think it's funny that I'm the music guy and I have to celebrate the 30th anniversary voice.
dan friesen
It's not the 30th anniversary.
jordan holmes
Or whatever it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, but October 30th.
So anyway, I thought I would do something a little bit fun, which is give you all a taste of the only fun thing that I found in listening to all of those episodes.
And here is that.
Or not.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Okay, here we go.
unidentified
Welcome back.
alex jones
Thank you so much for joining us.
unidentified
I've passed a long way.
alex jones
I love stopping in the churches.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
What a perfect moment.
Love stopping at the churches.
unidentified
Somehow that's even menacing.
dan friesen
So we're going to get into this October 30th episode, but beyond just that little fun taste from an episode that I have no idea when that was from, here is an out of context drop from today's show.
alex jones
And you think if you come up to them and curl up next to them that the starving ravenous wolves are going to give you kissy time.
They're not going to give you kissy time.
dan friesen
You've been warned.
jordan holmes
I don't understand quite the need for a warning about wolves not giving you kissy time.
dan friesen
Ravenous wolves.
They're hungry.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
So you go into a wolf's den.
Who's going into a wolf's den expecting kissy time?
dan friesen
Me?
I love wolves.
No, I don't like wolves.
I was going to try and play that out.
jordan holmes
What does kissy time with a wolf even mean?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
You know how you snuggle with your dogs?
They're basically wolves.
jordan holmes
Like, not on the mouth.
dan friesen
Wow.
You're missing out.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Don't people kiss their dogs on the mouth?
Isn't that like a stand-up bit?
People are like, why are you white people kissing dogs on the mouth?
unidentified
I feel like I've heard that before.
dan friesen
Right?
I've heard that before.
jordan holmes
I've not seen Def Jam comedy in quite a while.
dan friesen
Missing out.
jordan holmes
But now I'm kind of wishing I revisited it.
dan friesen
So we are going to start here where Alex starts off where he plans on this episode to get to calls.
We're going to take calls.
We're going to be real serious.
jordan holmes
I like the foreshadowing.
dan friesen
I do feel like everyone in this room knows we're not really going to get to calls.
jordan holmes
He plans to do something.
dan friesen
It's not going to happen.
Here's where we go.
alex jones
Unbelievably jam-packed broadcast day lined up for us here at 11 a.m. Central Standard Time.
A lot of stations carry us live.
Others air us at different times around the country.
And there's folks listening on shortwave and satellite and Internet all over the world.
I want to welcome you to the worldwide transmission.
And I really realize...
I've tried this about a hundred times and failed every time, but I think today is going to be the day that I succeed.
jordan holmes
101!
alex jones
Everybody pretty much knows what a lot of the big news is.
There is some breaking news we're going to be getting to, but I'm going to just open the phones up to first-time callers.
I'm going to go to your phone call, and I'm going to give the person one minute, and then I'm going to move to the next person.
I've never actually been able to do this.
Back 10, 15 years ago, I could do talk radio and take 50 phone calls an hour in 45 minutes of airtime.
I just cannot get out of the rut.
I'm in of just covering news and ranting and pontificating, which is incredibly popular and I think informative to a certain extent, but I'm still very hungry.
dan friesen
He's hungry!
jordan holmes
He's hungry!
dan friesen
He's hungry for those calls.
alex jones
Chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp.
Take a bite out of him.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what any of his callers could say in one minute.
All of them...
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, let's suck.
alex jones
Gotta go.
dan friesen
Baba Booey.
jordan holmes
No, they all start with, like, Alex, I have a question for you.
First off...
I need to tell you about how the Jews are...
And you're like, now we gotta click, click!
dan friesen
The phenomenon of a minute-long Alex Jones phone call is two seconds for the caller and 58 for Alex.
So that's really the problem.
And the problem is that people love his rants too much, man.
They're too good.
I like how he complains about stuff that is entirely under his control.
But there is some responsibility.
He's taking some responsibility for it.
I can never do this.
I constantly say I'm gonna do this.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate a man who consistently refuses to change anything.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
While at the same time being like, hey, I should really do that.
dan friesen
I should, but I gotta give the people what they want, which is me ranting.
jordan holmes
I'm thinking this heroin addiction, not gonna do it for me long term.
dan friesen
But the people love it.
jordan holmes
The people love it whenever I'm high on heroin.
Right.
dan friesen
Gotta give the people what they want, which is a needle sticking out of your arm.
unidentified
As usual.
dan friesen
So, there are a lot of advertisement mascots of the times of yore.
Old time advertisement mascots.
If you had to choose one that you think Alex would compare himself to, who do you think it would be?
jordan holmes
I mean Kool-Aid Man, for sure.
dan friesen
Kool-Aid Man?
jordan holmes
Barging through the walls?
unidentified
Oh yeah!
dan friesen
Do that again, but then say, let me tell you about the Bilderberg group.
unidentified
The Bilderberg group!
dan friesen
Trilateral commission is also in there, but I keep forgetting about them.
jordan holmes
I like that.
That would be a long thing for the Kool-Aid man.
unidentified
What if his preamble was a great deal longer than, oh yeah.
dan friesen
He starts before he breaks through the wall.
Beware, everyone!
jordan holmes
I'm going to be breaking through this wall.
I hope there are no innocent bystanders.
dan friesen
No, that's not it.
So here we go.
alex jones
And many of you have heard this probably a hundred times the last ten years.
Heard me give this speech and I'm going to take your calls and it's kind of like licking to the center of a Tootsie Roll.
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop or whatever it's called?
unidentified
And a little owl goes, one, a two, a three, crunch, a three.
alex jones
And it's the same thing.
I can never get through five or six articles without one of them making me mad and then going off.
Onto a rant that makes me think of something else that goes to another rant.
But, in the interest of time, we are going to come back, open the phones up, and take a lot of calls.
dan friesen
I mean, that's just poor impulse control, really.
Right.
jordan holmes
The joke of that is the owl should be licking it a great deal more times.
dan friesen
Right!
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
And by failing, he has proved both that...
He's addicted to candy, and he hates that turtle guy or whatever it was.
dan friesen
The turtle, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Was it a turtle?
dan friesen
I think so, yeah.
At least in the original one.
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Somebody's after us.
dan friesen
Someone heard that you're doing heroin.
jordan holmes
No, they heard you shitting on a Manchester hotel.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Is that illegal here?
I don't know the law.
No ill words about the lodging.
So, I have some problems with this.
The first, obviously, is, like you mentioned, the Tootsie Roll owl has no intention.
Of licking.
He just wants to get to the center of that pop.
They didn't go in planning to help the kid or the turtle find out how many licks it takes to get to the center only to change their mind two licks in.
So if this metaphor is to hold, then Alex is really just saying that it's always his intention to find that story that will set him off and launch a rant.
He knows what the audience wants.
That's the Tootsie Roll center of the pop.
Sure, maybe you'd end up with more information if you took your time and licked the Tootsie Pop.
That shit's boring.
Takes too long.
Chomp on that shit.
Take the shortcut.
That, of course, is analogous to how Alex lies about the stories he's covering and fakes the emotion that helps make his rant seem interesting.
These are the shortcuts that he uses to afford the laborious licking, which in this case is a metaphor for doing his fucking job.
At least in the original 1969 commercial, the depressed-ass turtle has the decency to tell the kid he has no idea how many licks it takes because, quote, he can't stop himself from biting it.
The kid comes up and he's like, I don't know, I'm just gonna bite that thing.
jordan holmes
I like that somehow a Tootsie Roll commercial has turned into one of the great satirizing of the media of our time.
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Scathing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
The owls are Alex, the mainstream media's the turtle, and we're all getting fucked over by both of them because the turtle's lying to us about how many licks.
The owl's eating our shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's essential for our survival to know how many fucking licks it takes.
unidentified
It is essential!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the thing about misinformation these days.
dan friesen
Yeah, we nailed it.
jordan holmes
The Zoomers haven't seen that commercial.
dan friesen
We need to show the Zoomers the commercial.
Also, fun fact, that owl was originally voiced by Paul Winchell, who was also the voice of Tigger and Gargamel.
jordan holmes
That is a fun fact.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was a world-famous ventriloquist who works with his puppet Jerry Mahoney, one of the legends in the ventriloquism game.
jordan holmes
A puppet named Jerry Mahoney?
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't know about Jerry Mahoney?
jordan holmes
I like that.
dan friesen
He's one of the big ones.
jordan holmes
I like that these days.
It's all like the demon guy or whatever it is.
Not just like a regular ass name.
dan friesen
Also, this ventriloquist who did the voice of the owl in the Tootsie Pop commercials may have invented the artificial heart that allowed for the first heart transplants.
Which he developed alongside Dr. Henry Heimlich, the guy who invented the Heimlich maneuver.
Crazy.
jordan holmes
There's not enough guys, man!
There's not enough guys!
dan friesen
What are the rest of us doing?
unidentified
Also...
dan friesen
Think about this if you want your mind blown.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The guy who invented the Heimlich maneuver died after Trump was elected president.
He lived that long!
That maneuver is not that old.
jordan holmes
Hey, man.
I just don't even know anymore.
Where am I in time?
This is a simulation, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
I think it has to be.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets down to business and tries to get to calls, which of course means he gets completely lost in the weeds.
Right.
And, you know...
You know, it is what it is.
alex jones
I'm not going to preach here today.
I'm going to do something different.
I'm going to do it.
I'm not going to cover news until about 45 after and then I'll hit all the big top stories.
They're here.
jordan holmes
Is that because there's no news?
alex jones
All the insanity.
Obamacare, even worse than I thought.
Designed for pure fraud and incredible preparations for martial law and school children being taught that they must follow the orders of government no matter what and their parents are bad.
Russell Brand, listener of the show, said that he took a job working in a newspaper because he was enamored with the beautiful woman that headed it up.
He was enchanted by her.
Instead of saying, oh, how romantic, the chivalry, the, oh no, he's been skewered by the film Nazis.
He's been skewered by them who know that they're taking over the culture.
It's not about empowering women.
It's about empowering them as tyrants.
Never before, but with modern feminism as it's called, have we seen women more debased, more bankrupted, more unhealthy, more brought low, more dishonored, more trampled.
And Russell Brand tells the establishment anti-human authoritarian salon, He took a job working somewhere because he was so enchanted with the female editor that edited it up.
And then they called that hateful and all the rest of it.
When I was asked to edit an issue of the New Statesman, I said yes because it was a beautiful woman asking me.
See, just the act of men and women loving each other, just the purity and goodness of that, is anathema to these people.
They know what they're doing.
They say you can't dress up like a cowboy on Halloween.
It's hurtful to cowboys.
They are the arbiters of reality.
They put you in a smaller and smaller cage where your mommy and daddy can't make your lunch.
They're not trusted.
unidentified
Where if someone says, hey, let's go eat Chinese food, everyone goes, ooh, don't say Chinese.
alex jones
I've witnessed that.
This is the ultimate tyranny, and it's done by design.
These are not misguided liberals.
These are...
Conscious dominators of the psyche.
dan friesen
Were you going to get the calls?
Because that was fucked up.
So about that simulation thing, huh?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you know what I've begun to appreciate about this show?
As, like, 2023 starts getting into real motion.
Or, I mean, whatever.
We're prepared.
Fuck it.
dan friesen
Yeah, almost in October now.
The year's starting to get into motion.
jordan holmes
No idea.
No clue.
Is Halloween on the 30th?
Anyway.
No.
It's like, every time we go back in time, the hashtag, like, Alex Jones was right, should actually have been, like, the complete opposite.
If everybody was paying attention, it would have been like, Alex Jones was wrong, and that's why we arrested Russell Brand 10 years ago.
You know, like, everything we go back, we're like, oh, 20 years ago, Alex Jones was like, hey, I'll tell you what, this Bob Iger guy is super cool!
dan friesen
Whoa, whoa, whoa, red flag, red flag!
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
If everybody had had one of us 20 years ago, we would be fine!
dan friesen
Oh, if only we could be on our 27th year of doing this show.
God.
Yeah, it is weird to go back in time, though, and see these things that are so prescient.
jordan holmes
It's no good.
Every time something terrible happens in the present, eventually somebody on Twitter is like, you know you could have seen this coming 20 years ago.
dan friesen
Just listen to Alex.
If he supports something, it's bad.
jordan holmes
Terrible.
dan friesen
It's interesting, though, this other formulation that he has here, where it's like, you can't dress up like a cowboy because it's offensive to cowboys.
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
dan friesen
Obviously, this is about him being mad about ethnic appropriations in costumes.
I was going to say, this is blackface.
jordan holmes
Cowboy face is the exact same thing as blackface.
dan friesen
That's essentially what he's doing.
And then jumping over to you can't say Chinese food, which is strange.
But, I mean, you've got to take the handholds where you can find them if you're climbing this bullshit rock.
jordan holmes
I have no idea why you can't call it Chinese food.
dan friesen
Well, can you dress up like a cowboy?
jordan holmes
Sichuan?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Mandarin?
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Cantonese?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you want to get real specific with it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Any more?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
There's tons more.
dan friesen
If I can name all five Spice Girls, then you have to name every...
jordan holmes
I should be able to name the 138 countries...
unidentified
From the top!
jordan holmes
All right, fair.
Fine.
No.
Can't do it.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
So Alex finally does go to calls.
He gets a caller, and this caller has a fucking awesome question for Alex, which is, hey bro, do you like sci-fi?
unidentified
There's more people awake every day, and it's coming to a conclusion sometime in the future.
Are you a science fiction fan, Alex?
alex jones
I am a science fiction fan back when I had time to read The Greats.
unidentified
Can't help but feel what's happening now.
Do you remember at the end of the first Star Wars movie where the X-Wing fighters are coming in and the lieutenant goes up to the Death Star commander?
I think it was played by Peter Cushing.
And he said, you know, we better evacuate.
These guys are on to something.
Do you remember what Peter Cushing said?
He said, evacuate in a moment of triumph?
I think you overestimate their chances.
I think, I really feel like...
alex jones
Evacuation in a moment of triumph?
I think you overestimate their chances.
unidentified
I love that scene, Alex.
It's why the Greeks and the great American authors and Shakespeare wrote about arrogance and hubris is because it will be the downfall of people that try to take control without honor.
alex jones
Several fighters have broken off from the main group.
All right, brother, God bless you.
I appreciate you calling in.
Let's go ahead and talk to Brian in Canada.
Good call from Canada.
dan friesen
That's how you do a call in a minute.
jordan holmes
That is how you do a call in a minute.
dan friesen
Caller brings up an idea and you do two Star Wars impressions.
jordan holmes
Alright, I'm going to explain my point via a Star Wars reference and then you're just going to be like, oh man, Luke and Leia made out, right?
alex jones
That's weird.
dan friesen
I like that the caller is basically making a point and then Alex is like, I think he's asking me to do that voice.
I think I'm going to do that voice and another one.
unidentified
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
dan friesen
Did you have to hold your throat while you did that?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Otherwise I would screech like I normally do.
dan friesen
Are there any screeching Star Wars characters?
jordan holmes
I mean, the Wailing Jizz was pretty screeching.
In the remastered version of Return of the Jedi, they give an entire musical number to the Wailing Jizz right before Luke Skywalker comes in and...
unidentified
Jabba the Hutt is like, I'm going to throw you into the...
dan friesen
Do the voice.
Come on!
Do the Jabba the Hutt voice.
unidentified
Good.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
dan friesen
That's better.
jordan holmes
Salacious Crumb, I got.
dan friesen
I would like to do a physical impression of Jabba, which is, I'd like to lay on my side.
jordan holmes
I'd like it to get strangled by beautiful women.
Wait, no, what?
alex jones
Wait, what?
dan friesen
So, we get nowhere with that caller.
They've elicited some voices, which is something.
It's fun.
But we get another caller, and this caller asks what I would describe as a very heady question, which is trouble.
unidentified
Alex, I am another one of those Canadians who love you to death up here, and I just wanted to say this is maybe a little bit off topic, but I guess I just wanted to share it with you.
Your slogan says, because there's a war on for your mind.
And I just wondered, Alex, if you would share with your audience what your thoughts are with regard to mind versus brain.
Is the mind the same as the brain in your estimation?
Holy shit, man!
This is your response, brother.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
unidentified
Fuck!
jordan holmes
I don't even know the answer to that question.
dan friesen
If I were Alex sitting at the studio and someone asked me, I'd be like, get the fuck off the line.
jordan holmes
You asked me that question.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Unless we're sitting around a hookah, having a nice time.
I haven't had a hookah in a long time, my man.
jordan holmes
What do you think?
What do you think is the difference between the mind and the brain?
dan friesen
I don't give a fuck.
I don't know.
The brain is a physical thing.
The mind is boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
jordan holmes
I'm sold.
dan friesen
All right.
So are we ready for Alex's answer?
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's do it.
dan friesen
Because it's painful rambling.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
alex jones
I'm no scientist, but I've read a lot of scientific reports and had a lot of top experts on, and I don't get into some of the areas where they can't completely prove everything, but throughout time immemorial, historians, researchers have pointed out that there's something more than just the brain.
It's like they can do a perfect clone that's 100% the same.
And for some reason, it just doesn't have the same vigor.
It doesn't matter whether it's a lizard, whether it's a mammal.
It just isn't the same.
And we know that there are a sixth sense.
We know there are magnetic cells in the brains, not just of mammals, but of birds and other fish.
That's how they're able to navigate.
It's how they're able to fly south of the winter.
It's how a hummingbird can fly 5,000 miles.
The brain is able to go into the fourth and fifth dimension in calculations that it's able to make.
And of course, we live in the third dimension.
dan friesen
We sure do.
Alright, so there's six senses.
jordan holmes
Alright, so we live in the third dimension, which means we are free from time.
No issues there.
dan friesen
Well, I feel that way on this trip for sure.
I feel no attachment to time.
jordan holmes
I thought it was two weeks from now, but that's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're living in July.
jordan holmes
Okay, so have we cloned any?
Actually, that's a good question.
unidentified
Yes, the problem with clones is they lack vigor.
jordan holmes
Well, obviously that's the problem.
I remember Dolly and the Sheep.
I'm just wondering, have we cloned any lizards?
I feel like we've only cloned lizards in Jurassic Park!
dan friesen
And those fuckers were vigorous.
jordan holmes
They were vigorous as fuck.
Fat acid and shit?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Dolly the sheep was pretty lazy, though.
jordan holmes
How's Dolly doing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is Dolly dead?
dan friesen
I have bad news.
What?
jordan holmes
How's Dr. Grand Prix?
dan friesen
Hanging out with Dolly.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we get six senses, which are apparently like how birds can geolocate and fish can go back to where they spawn and reproduce.
But those are fish and birds.
I don't know what that has to do with the human mind and brain.
jordan holmes
They're magnets.
How do they work?
dan friesen
That is a great question.
Shout out to the juggalo we met in Scotland.
I also would have thought that the part about going in the fourth and fifth dimensions, that would have been the mind, not the brain.
jordan holmes
I'm lost.
unidentified
What is the place you go to?
jordan holmes
What is the difference between the fourth and fifth dimension?
Do you go to the fourth dimension first and you're like, man, these people are shit out here.
So I'm going to head to the fifth dimension, see what's going on there.
And then you just go back?
How does it work?
dan friesen
You've got to go through the fourth on the way back, though.
Oh, that's shit.
It's like a long drive.
jordan holmes
It's like the drive from Chicago to New York.
It's like, fuck, I've got to go through Pennsylvania?
Jesus Christ.
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Pennsylvania, the fourth dimension.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm all lost on all of this.
I don't think Alex was expecting a question like this, and his response shows.
So we get to learn a little bit more about these six senses in this next clip.
jordan holmes
I'm into it.
dan friesen
Well, Alex expounds on that a tiny bit.
alex jones
Most of us have had dreams where exactly that dream comes true.
Not like you dream of being a rock star to become a rock star.
I mean, you dream of being mugged.
That's happened to me.
And then six months later or whatever, the exact mugging happened.
And it's like deja vu.
And you even know what the person's going to do.
And it's almost like your brain was able to jump forward into the future.
It's not like deja vu where you think you've seen this before.
You talk about it.
You remember it.
It's very upsetting.
Those dreams are waking dreams is what I call them.
Where you know it's real.
When I was a child, I had them obviously more.
It's been marked throughout history that children are more sensitive.
It's why the globalists like to abuse and hurt them.
True.
Because, you know, the evil wants to feed on that.
But, I mean, I still have waking dreams.
And you always know one.
Even if it's something good coming.
But most of us, the most common waking dream is of your children unborn.
A lot of times parents, when their children will have dreams about their grandchildren.
That's very common.
My dad had dreams about my daughters.
And then only later when, oh my God, that was the little blonde haired girls I imagined that were going to be my children.
unidentified
That was exactly them.
alex jones
That's the issue.
It was a little later he said, oh my gosh, that was that dream.
Or he told my mom about this when they first got married.
We're going to have daughters.
I've seen these daughters.
They weren't his daughters.
They were his granddaughters.
And the enemy knows this.
That's why they don't want you to think there's anything else outside of what we can say.
dan friesen
One minute per call, buddy.
One minute per call.
Talking about your dad prophesying your daughters.
jordan holmes
I had a bunch of dreams about young women, and I'm like, that's okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, I feel like I'm reaching a point where I think that everything that Alex says his dad told him is made up.
I don't think his dad has said any of these things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's either...
It's either he's making up what his dad is saying, or his dad is a creepy psychopath who keeps lying to Alex just as a sort of weird experiment.
If he was the smartest boy in Texas, perhaps his whole idea was like, I'm going to raise a child like a weird fucking evil bullet to shoot into regular society and break everybody's fucking brains.
And then he's also like, but I'm going to make him think some weird shit too.
dan friesen
But I think that if that's the case, which I'm into, I think that would be interesting narratively.
jordan holmes
I'm not into it, but it's not a terrible idea.
dan friesen
Well, from a storyline perspective, I think it's fascinating.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But it also then has to be the case that Alex's dad has such discipline that he never involves himself in anything.
Like, the first time I ever saw him physically was in that deposition that he got dragged in for.
Like, he never comes on air.
He never does anything.
And that, to me, I think is, you know...
jordan holmes
The sign of a brilliant psychopath.
alex jones
See, it could be!
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he's like Pablo Escobar.
dan friesen
But see, we see...
Lack of impulse control on Alex's part.
And you're describing a shocking level in this psychopath dad of his that we're imagining.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
I had a dream about his dad being a psychopath with great discipline when I was a child.
Back when I was more sensitive.
jordan holmes
It's crazy because I had a dream about your granddaughters.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Oh, that sucks.
I'm gonna have kids.
That sucks.
This is a terrible way to find that out.
jordan holmes
Illegitimate kid ten years ago.
unidentified
It's fine.
dan friesen
Oh, what a relief.
That's the best news ever.
jordan holmes
It's so good.
It's good news.
They'll never ask for money.
dan friesen
So I have more good news.
We have a guest.
jordan holmes
The silence from the never ask for money part?
dan friesen
We have a guest coming on here, and it is someone who we don't get to see all that often anymore these days.
It's a man named Max Kaiser.
jordan holmes
Max Coin.
dan friesen
The king of the Bitcoin, Max Coin.
I do like when he shows up.
And that's because he is the only person who outwardly disrespects Alex.
I don't think that this episode is a good example of it, but he's the only person who seems to have the freedom to just be like, hey, fuck you.
I'm going to do a bit on your show.
But this isn't that.
This is him trying to sell Bitcoin.
jordan holmes
Okay.
max keiser
In the meantime, Bitcoin has surged to become the Napster of currencies, to totally be threatening to all central banks and bankers everywhere.
And as the days go on, we're finding out this is to be the case.
And of course, the big story this week was somebody bought Bitcoins in 2009 for $57, and now they're worth $800,000.
alex jones
He just bought an apartment in Norway.
max keiser
And these types of stories are bringing a lot of attention to Bitcoin.
alex jones
Who was really behind Bitcoin?
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
What?
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
jordan holmes
Now we're in some...
alex jones
Activists who hate bankers.
max keiser
So you've got a group of folks back in 2009 who put what's called a Bitcoin protocol onto the Internet, which is, I think, the most remarkable piece of technology and insight since going back to Copernicus, you know, who reasoned that, in fact, the sun was at the center of the solar system and not the Earth.
unidentified
At the time, he had a lot of flack for that.
max keiser
The creators of Bitcoin have figured out that you can take the encryption algorithms used for sending encrypted emails and you can turn that into a currency that would be completely stateless and completely safe to use outside of all government interference.
alex jones
It's a complete, ingenious idea.
And it's changing to the entire global economy.
I want to be clear.
I want to be clear.
I totally believe in free, open, digital currencies, believe it is the wave of the future.
It gives the power of fiat to the people and the power of choice, and a bunch will emerge, and whatever's the most trusted and the best will become preeminent, and it could take the globalists out of the equation.
My issue is I believe whatever the first big one is, they're going to try to sabotage it, demonize it, come after it, so I haven't endorsed it to my listeners because I, when it ends up getting brought down if it does, I don't want to be connected to that just because I understand how volatile and dangerous it is.
dan friesen
See, now this is interesting.
Because what we've got going on here is Alex being rightly skeptical about Bitcoin in the face of Max Keiser.
jordan holmes
No, he was being wrongly skeptical.
dan friesen
Well, his point was wrong, but he was right to be skeptical.
jordan holmes
He was right to be skeptical.
dan friesen
He was doing it poorly, but he was right, yes.
jordan holmes
It creates an alternate universe right now.
So if Bitcoin is at $57...
dan friesen
Put it up on the whiteboard.
jordan holmes
So it's at $57.
Every one of his listeners at least spends $57 on his shit.
If they had bought two Bitcoin, those people would have turned $57 into $60,000 right now.
So of all the things that Alex could have done, he could have made every InfoWars listener a...
dan friesen
Theoretically?
And if they had gotten out at the right time, it could have been even higher?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, right now is the right...
I mean, it's still 20 grand or something like that.
That's crazy!
dan friesen
Compared to like 10 cents that it was at one point.
jordan holmes
I am so weirded out by Max Keiser being an inexplicably terrible and at the same time inexplicably great financial advisor.
dan friesen
He has a niche spot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, it's like, again, Alex is right to be skeptical.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But Max is right because Bitcoin is so insanely expensive now.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, that's the flip side of what I was saying, is like, if Alex had not been skeptical and just jumped in, he would be a billionaire now.
unidentified
I know!
dan friesen
Like Max Keiser is.
jordan holmes
Like, of all the things for...
Oh, my God.
This fucks with my head.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because I do feel like if we're in a simulation, there is a moment where Alex is like, Eh, fuck it.
I'll buy 10,000 Bitcoin for eight cents.
dan friesen
Max offered him 10,000 Bitcoins.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, let me ask you this.
jordan holmes
I'm going to lose my mind.
dan friesen
Does it fuck with your brain?
or does it fuck with your mind?
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Well, the rest of the show's gonna...
Oh, he's back.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I thought about it.
dan friesen
So, you know, obviously there's an obsession that Alex has had over the years with the idea of getting rid of saying mother and father.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
We can't do it.
jordan holmes
Purple penguins.
dan friesen
Right.
Purple penguins aren't in play here, but Max has an interesting theory about how they will stop us from using mother and father.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Well, just a couple of late-breaking things that are happening during the break here.
First of all, you just said they banned the word mother and father.
How do they do that?
alex jones
They use copyright law.
unidentified
They'll say, we own the word mother and father.
That's the problem with professional copyright law.
jordan holmes
Now, you can't even use the word mother and father.
alex jones
They use copyright law.
unidentified
That's how they create the copyright apartheid.
alex jones
Well, isn't political correctness a type of copyright where everything becomes racist?
It's not about political correctness.
unidentified
They'll present it as being somehow politically motivated or ideologically motivated.
alex jones
No.
It's about just they want to own it.
They want to own the word.
And then if you ever use the words, they want you to pay them.
jordan holmes
If you can't pay, they'll lend you the money.
alex jones
It's all in economics.
There's no ideology whatsoever.
unidentified
If everyone thinks this is ideologically driven, they're falling into the trap.
alex jones
It's just money, money, money.
dan friesen
Money, money, money.
That's a little dumb, huh?
jordan holmes
I genuinely don't understand the sequence of events that would occur.
dan friesen
All right.
The globalists copyright the word mother and father.
jordan holmes
Like happy birthday.
dan friesen
No, not the words.
The song, maybe.
jordan holmes
So they copyright happy birthday and that way if you sing it in a movie you have to pay them a million dollars.
So the globalists have copyrighted both mother and father.
So you can only say mom in a movie.
dan friesen
Whoa.
Someone else owns that copyright.
Mama?
Someone else has that.
jordan holmes
Warner Brothers bought it recently.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I've copyrighted the word human.
You are all no longer humans.
jordan holmes
That's worth a couple of Bitcoin right there.
dan friesen
I love it when you just pop in and find something really fucking stupid like this.
Somebody just out of their depth trying to roll with one of Alex's dumb headlines.
Like, the news of the day is they have banned mother and father.
And so now we have to rationalize that with copyright law.
jordan holmes
Don't you think...
And you take it to an office and there's a person who's reading it going like, oh shit.
dan friesen
I didn't know we could do this.
jordan holmes
Stamp.
dan friesen
No one's thought to do this.
jordan holmes
This is out of control.
dan friesen
I'm going to copyright the word arm.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
All three letter words are mine now.
dan friesen
So I think it's time for a commercial break.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Good call.
dan friesen
Yeah, so here we go.
Here's one of the commercials that Alex was playing at this period of his career.
unidentified
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And also important e-liquid flavors as well.
Hell yeah.
jordan holmes
I want to describe the difference between the beginner and the advanced.
dan friesen
I was curious about that myself.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I wonder where I fall on that spectrum.
I'm not a beginner.
jordan holmes
Is it length of time?
Is it number of pulls per hour?
dan friesen
You think it's just clock and shifts?
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
See, what I see is like a Fitbit for vaping.
So it's like, oh, I got 10,000 vapes today.
I'm an advanced vaper.
dan friesen
This is a Glidewell thing.
You have to get your 10,000 hours of vaping.
jordan holmes
You have to have a Glidewell for anything.
dan friesen
I think it's about if you can be fancy with it.
Some people can blow smoke rings.
I can't do that, so I'm a beginner.
unidentified
If you can Gandalf it, you're an advanced vapor.
jordan holmes
Oh, I blew a ship that flies in the sky.
dan friesen
Yeah, I wish I could do that.
I just don't have the patience.
jordan holmes
Or magic?
dan friesen
What is magic but patience?
The end result of patience.
jordan holmes
I have no rebuttal.
dan friesen
I do like this, though, attaching patriotism to vapes.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
dan friesen
And this is back in, what, 2013?
This is way early for that.
And then he stopped.
Anyway, we get back to the show and we find out something else that Alex's dad has told him.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's always my favorite.
dan friesen
I believe at this point Max Keiser has left us, but we get to hear about a dumb thing Alex's dad said.
alex jones
Let me tell you, these bureaucrats come around, folks, a lot of them, they look you right in the eye.
My dad, when I was a kid, the IRS called him and he said, I have all my receipts.
I've paid all this.
I don't owe you all this back tax stuff.
And the woman said, Mr. Jones, we are white-collar criminals.
This is before people would record stuff.
jordan holmes
Interesting admission.
alex jones
That's the way you just said that.
She said, look, we're going to destroy you and your family.
jordan holmes
Another interesting thing to say.
alex jones
And my dad came home and I remember was freaked out for weeks.
My dad never gets depressed.
My dad was shook up bad.
And then they started taking his bank accounts.
He fought them for years.
These are gang-raping criminals.
They want to hurt you.
They're bank robbers in huge swarm clusters like locusts coming in on us.
They're not going to stop.
They're never going to stop.
They're armed into the teeth against us.
They're telling troops they can't be Christians.
unidentified
These people are Joe Stalin on PCP, okay?
And they're pedophiles, okay?
alex jones
That's the main brigade.
dan friesen
That took a turn.
jordan holmes
That was...
That was probably the closest I've ever been to, like, a 1940s gangster with a Tommy gun just firing a million bullets into major...
alex jones
Ah!
jordan holmes
They're pedophiles!
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
My dad told me the IRS admitted they're just white-collar criminals.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
No?
I don't believe that.
jordan holmes
I don't think he's telling the truth about any of this.
dan friesen
No, but again, this gets to that interesting distinction.
Is this...
Something Alex's dad actually said to him, or is this just whole cloth?
jordan holmes
Yeah, like imagine Alex's dad...
So what happens if David Jones, not David Bowie, comes home one day and is like, okay, Alex, I had a bad day.
And Alex is like, oh, what's going on?
And he's like, I don't know.
Like, how do you describe that to a child?
dan friesen
Well, the IRS done told me that they're white-collar criminals and they want to murder us.
And there's Stalin.
And troops can no longer be Christian.
And would you like some dessert?
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't think they said any of that.
dan friesen
You don't think so?
jordan holmes
That's such a weird thing to open with!
Hey, by the way, basically we're white-collar criminals and there's nothing you can do about it.
dan friesen
How do you do?
Just doing a little bit of workplace visit?
We're white-collar criminals.
Yeah, it seems unlikely.
jordan holmes
That's absurd.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talk a little bit more about this idea that you can't dress up like a cowboy because it's offensive.
And I think he's being intentionally obtuse.
alex jones
2010, M4 has reported on an effort by a coalition of more than 30 liberal organizations to shut down the First Amendment right of political enemies.
And they're doing the same thing in Europe, folks.
These are the enemy.
And so they're trying to hide in plain view.
Your kids don't belong to you.
They belong to the state.
MSNBC promo.
Don't go out as a cowboy.
That hurts the cowboys.
And don't go out as a Native American.
That's racist and insensitive.
And don't be a gaucher girl.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
Don't be an artist.
Don't have fun.
Next, don't dress up like Spider-Man.
It's racist against spiders.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Don't put green paint on your skin.
It's racist against the Hulk.
It's just getting you all like where you can't even talk.
You go, oh, I'm sorry.
They're like, that's okay.
Do what we say and you'll be all right.
dan friesen
See, this is the problem that I have with my left-leaning friends.
I try to dress up like Spider-Man.
I get cancelled!
jordan holmes
I am tired of people denying the Hulk genocide.
It's very disappointing to me.
dan friesen
I think Alex is intentionally not getting the point.
jordan holmes
So we've got cowboys offended by chaps.
dan friesen
Or I guess maybe those black masks like the Lone Ranger had.
jordan holmes
Was he a cowboy or was he a thief?
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Was he a good guy or a bad guy?
I genuinely have no idea anymore.
dan friesen
Here's the point of the show where I realize I don't know what the Lone Ranger was.
jordan holmes
I vaguely remember that Johnny Depp was the Lone Ranger and now I'm against it.
dan friesen
I know that there were like a mask.
jordan holmes
So we got that.
Then we got spiders who have been writing letters with all eight legs for a long time.
They get eight times as many letters to their congressmen as we do.
And then you have, again, hulks.
dan friesen
By the way, can we talk about how spiders have been getting away with representation without taxation for way too long?
It's the reverse of the revolution.
jordan holmes
They're fucking squatters.
dan friesen
Oh, I eat other bugs.
Great.
jordan holmes
Here's the ultimate problem, though.
I feel like you're forgetting that if a Hulk is offended, they will smash.
As opposed to write a letter and say, I'm offended.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's not going to be some complaining.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Hulk smash.
unidentified
Strange.
dan friesen
Yes, much like the Kool-Aid Man.
Which, let's not get started on dressing up like the Kool-Aid Man.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's offensive to red.
dan friesen
It's offensive to jars and pitchers.
So Alex, in this next clip, he kind of fakes some excitement in himself by talking about how demonic his enemies are.
alex jones
Sure.
unidentified
They are the enemy.
alex jones
The enemy.
The enemy, enemy, enemy, enemy, enemy.
The enemy.
The sworn enemy of everything good.
They are demonic.
They are the hordes of hell.
They are absolute anathema to everything good.
They are the plague.
They are the scourge.
They are the traitor.
They are the destroyer of ideas.
They are the opposite of liberal.
It's three horror adjectives.
You signed on with these people, you've signed on to absolute hell.
unidentified
Oh my God.
alex jones
And they're really going to try it.
And believe me, I just want them to know, they strike me down, set me up, whatever, I've already won, not being a pile of garbage, traitorous filth like you.
Don't you get it?
I'm not worried about what you do to my body.
Even if there isn't a God or a life after this, my family goes on.
All that matters is that you be beaten so that people in the future can have a chance to enjoy God's creation and to build something better.
That's what life's all about.
It's stretching forward like all our ancestors did to try to get finger holds into a future of honor and goodness.
The public has been psych-warfared with demonic evil, the sitcoms, the dramas.
unidentified
I'm sorry?
alex jones
each other's cheating sex it's all meant to just fry everyone everyone engaged in evil thinks they've learned some secret technology of betrayal and they're smart you're not and they deploy lies on you like like like it's a game and they're winning they don't know they're losing by being frauds they don't know they're losing by being scammers they don't know they're losing everything everything they're dishonorable and it is our responsibility It's our responsibility to crush them politically.
It is our responsibility to disdain them and to call them out for the pieces of trash they are and do the opposite of everything they say.
You want to know a battle plan?
Do the opposite of everything they say.
If everyone else is something, it's the gift of death.
You got that?
Anything they push is failure.
Everything they push is meant to screw you up.
Everything they promote is meant to poison you physically, mentally, spiritually.
Everything.
Everything they are.
It's the enemy of everything good.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
It's like how the CDC will tell you if you get a cut, you should wash it out.
Do the opposite.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Get it dirtier.
jordan holmes
I mean, I almost appreciate this clip because it shows us that all we should have done is said to a group of people the opposite of what they shouldn't do.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Give bad advice.
jordan holmes
And then they do it.
Yeah, if we give them bad advice, they would do it.
But if we give...
Other people good advice, they'd do it.
And then we'd all do the same thing for different reasons.
dan friesen
I think you run the risk of one organization giving contrary advice to different groups.
Expecting different groups will pick it up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be strange if the CDC was like, hey, only dumb people take this advice.
dan friesen
But then you'd almost have to double bluff.
jordan holmes
Smart people would take this advice.
Not.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
But dumb people would.
Oh, God, I don't even know anymore.
Oh, what tangled webs we weave.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They tell you not to eat spoiled meat.
You should.
jordan holmes
So I shouldn't?
dan friesen
Well, if you listen to the officials and the globalists, it's just a recipe for death.
jordan holmes
What's Fauci saying about meat these days?
dan friesen
These days or in 2013?
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I want to know these days.
dan friesen
I can't tell you that.
We've been on the road too long.
I've not gotten a Fauci update.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
Probably still cool with meat.
I assume.
It was never really about meat, was it?
jordan holmes
Nope.
It was mainly about COVID.
unidentified
So, calls have been happening.
dan friesen
If you'll recall.
The agenda was calls.
jordan holmes
That was the idea.
dan friesen
And we've not gotten to too many of them.
jordan holmes
We've had two calls, right?
dan friesen
Yep, yep.
And there were a couple scattered in also, you know, just randomly here and there.
But we actually only have one more clip left in the episode.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's when Alex gets to another call.
unidentified
Oh, that's exciting.
dan friesen
And then there is another shocking flash in time.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
A rip in the facade of time.
Okay.
I can't do this.
unidentified
I can't fake the enthusiasm.
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
This is you.
What do you mean?
Do you mean there was a rip in the fabric of time?
dan friesen
See, that's not bad.
unidentified
Nah.
jordan holmes
I could do better.
It's been a long time since I've skipped an acting class.
dan friesen
When you took an acting class, did they have a faking enthusiasm day?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I had to pretend that I wanted to be there.
So that was pretty close.
dan friesen
So yes.
Alright, here we go.
Here's a caller.
alex jones
I would pay your debt back to a local bank or a local group or a family that loans you money.
dan friesen
Real quick, the caller has asked him if he should pay back his loans.
unidentified
Should I follow rules and pay back money?
dan friesen
So yeah, in those cases, yes.
alex jones
Everybody always cheats, though, with their family.
If it was with a big bank or something...
One of the big six narcotics trafficking banks, it's almost your duty, in my view, to not pay.
And then, of course, you can later settle with them.
Or do what all the big gangsters do.
Like Trump and people, they just declare bankruptcy over and over again.
But, of course, they'll go after you if you're small.
They only let the billionaires engage in fraud.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Don't pay back your loans.
Be a gangster like Trump.
jordan holmes
It is just, if everybody had listened to this show and done the opposite of what he said, we'd be fine!
dan friesen
Simulation, baby!
jordan holmes
It's like, it is, I mean, it is almost like a Buddhist Cohen, Alex Jones being wrong, because it's like, listen, if you had listened to him...
He was so wrong that it's just diametric.
It's a big circle and he's on one side and you should just be on the other.
That's all you need to do.
The problem is we've all tried to live in the middle ground.
We've tried to make Venn diagrams.
What we should have done is just listen to Alex and been like, I'll do exactly the opposite of everything you say.
Which is strange because he said you should do the exact opposite of everything we say.
unidentified
Whoa.
What is the difference between the mind and the brain?
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
Also, I refuse to do the opposite of him on some things.
jordan holmes
Like what?
dan friesen
Some of his choices in country music are pretty good.
unidentified
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not going to not like the highway men because he loves them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
What if we no longer belong to the city?
unidentified
Whoa.
Yeah.
dan friesen
You belong to the countryside.
I would...
Where's Glenn Frey?
He lives in England, right?
Doesn't he?
I don't know.
I thought he did.
You guys...
Is the Eagles...
No, that's gotta be...
They're from Philadelphia!
jordan holmes
I don't know where...
dan friesen
The fourth dimension!
jordan holmes
I don't know where Glenn Frey lives, and I genuinely don't know why you would think I would know where Glenn Frey lives.
dan friesen
My man, you don't keep tabs on Glenn Frey?
jordan holmes
I mean, there's a part of me that is now like, oh...
Boy, if I had kept tabs on Glenn Frey, this would be the only moment that I could pull that off.
dan friesen
It would have been huge.
alex jones
It would have been huge!
dan friesen
This place just, a bomb goes off with laughter.
Holy shit!
Amazed by your ability to recall.
I do also like, just getting back to this last clip for one second, the idea that Alex is so against people having their student loans forgiven and is on air actively being like, if it's a big bag, don't even fucking pay it back.
You have an obligation not to.
You prick.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like that.
Put a lot of people in jail for movies, right?
Good call.
dan friesen
Well, we come to the end of this, folks.
It's a little bittersweet.
jordan holmes
What did we learn tonight?
unidentified
Huh.
jordan holmes
One, Spice Girls.
dan friesen
Smoke American.
jordan holmes
Hit it.
Hit it.
Don't quit it.
That's the advanced move.
dan friesen
If you want to support the country.
jordan holmes
We don't know what the difference between the mind and the brain is.
Nope.
dan friesen
Alex was wrong about Russell Brand and Trump in advance.
jordan holmes
And yet at the same time, by being so wrong diametrically, he was in fact correct.
dan friesen
So he is a wizard in some sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the dumbest.
There is the oracle at Delphi, and then there's the Alex at fuck yourself.
dan friesen
Right.
There's like the oracle at...
Man, how am I going to pull a city that sucks in Greece?
unidentified
How am I going to do that?
jordan holmes
I bet you could pull one from Pennsylvania.
dan friesen
Hershey.
jordan holmes
Somehow we're in the UK and I'm still getting regional-based awes?
I mean, I figured that part out.
I didn't expect you to be from Louisiana and be like, I will protect every United States!
unidentified
Well, thank you all so much.
dan friesen
This has been the show.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much!
unidentified
We will be back for another episode.
And we will be out at the bar here in a few if you want to come say hello, take a picture or whatever.
Thank you all so much for coming.
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