In this installment, Dan and Jordan catch up with some big headlines involving Infowars from the past weeks, including Owen Shroyer's legal troubles, Alex going on Russian TV, and Harrison Smith dropping the ball with an antisemitic caller.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight. | |
| I need, I need money. | ||
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I need money. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Thanks for holding. | |
| I love your world. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
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Jordan. | |
| Dan. | ||
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Jordan. | |
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today, I guess, is just like, man, this trip is coming up. | ||
| I swear to God that's my bright spot, too. | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
| Well, we can commiserate about it a little bit as a dual bright spot. | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
| I was about to... | ||
| It's right around the corner, basically. | ||
| It's very surreal to be sitting here and still have a fair amount to do before the trip and have done a great deal already and to have it creep up. | ||
| I feel very weird. | ||
| But excited. | ||
| No, my wife and I went and played tennis this morning. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| It was like a moment of, okay, this has somehow gone from something that's like, oh, this would be a fun thing to do. | ||
| This is a cool idea. | ||
| And now it's gonna happen. | ||
| And now I'm anxious because it's like... | ||
| Oh, I thought you meant the tennis with your wife. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| No, no, no, the trip. | ||
| No, because it is like, oh, shit. | ||
| Stuff can go wrong now that it's real. | ||
| I mean, there are definitely those last-minute concerns. | ||
| You know, you have, like, flight cancellations that could come up. | ||
| Things that are just outside your control. | ||
| Obviously, like, those things still linger over your head. | ||
| But then the other thing that I was thinking, I am shocked. | ||
| It's still just you and me. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, this is a cool thing to have figured out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You and me style. | ||
| Yeah, and I should say, I don't know how much we've talked about this, but I want to thank you for stepping up as much as you have. | ||
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Oh, sure. | |
| About, like, basically being a tour manager. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, like, you really contacted the gigs, the venues and stuff. | ||
| It's really huge. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And the wonks appreciate it greatly. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it was... | ||
| I could not have handled that. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I looked into it at the very beginning, and it was like, everyone goes through a fucking service who has all the contacts. | ||
| I think you learned why. | ||
| And I'm just like, fucking no! | ||
| It's Dan and I, goddammit! | ||
| We're stupid. | ||
| We are going to die stupid, and that's how it's going to go. | ||
| Yeah, and there's something to be said for that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Also, you can call me... | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I'm sprinkling a little bit of sugar on the nugs, because I'm all about sweetening the pot. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| I got there. | ||
| You did get there. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That is undeniable. | ||
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Yep. | |
| In this case, I want it to be about the destination, not the journey. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| The journey was a struggle. | ||
| It was, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Here's something I'm thinking. | ||
| What? | ||
| So I have a slight bit of internalized guilt about the idea of somebody who would buy a ticket to come to QED because they want to see the podcast and all of our other shows are sold out. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think they'll get more than their dollars worth out of the conference as a whole. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I love sweeten and pots. | ||
| You like sweeten and pots. | ||
| So here's what I'm going to do. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| For that show at QED, I'm going to bring one of the three first wine bottles that we ever had on the show. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And I'm going to give it to an audience member at the QED show. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| We, for people who don't know from way back, we used to drink a lot of wine. | ||
| On the podcast. | ||
| And it became something of a, we like to try all sorts of wines. | ||
| So the first three bottles that we ever had on the first episodes, I kept those. | ||
| As a joke, because no one was listening to our show, as like, this will be valuable to someone someday. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And now the joke's on me, because I think someone would really actually want that. | ||
| It is kind of a joke on us. | ||
| It's kind of, yeah, it's weird. | ||
| So that piece of unique memorabilia will be up for grabs. | ||
| I'm not sure exactly what I'll do. | ||
| I don't know if I want to do a who's come from the furthest, because that seems like I'm warming up a stand-up crowd. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But we'll come up with some way to give it to someone who will cherish. | ||
| I'll say it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You're used to it. | ||
| Like I'm warming up a stand-up crowd. | ||
| Yeah, you have a lot more experience than that hosting experience. | ||
| I'm the MC. | ||
| That's what I'll do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Jordan, today I am exhausted. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, if I'm a little bit loopy, I apologize for that. | ||
| I woke up very early this morning and could not get back to sleep. | ||
| I'm doing okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But I feel it, and I worry about it coming out in my speech. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| You telling people about it, is it coming out right now? | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| You are 100% correct. | ||
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You would only do that if it was you. | |
| But we have an episode to go over, and it's rangy. | ||
| Today, what I wanted to do was go over a bit of the recent Infowars-adjacent news. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Because there's been quite a bit of things that have happened since the last time we did a present-day episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so I thought doing one episode of Alex's show really wouldn't suffice. | ||
| But I also don't want to do six episodes of his show. | ||
| So I have selected chunks that are important to various news pieces that have happened. | ||
| So it's kind of a rundown. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Or as Alex might call it, a news blitz. | ||
| A primer. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I like a primer. | ||
| Any of these things are fantastic ways to describe what is about to happen. | ||
| Except all the stories are bullshit, and none of it matters, and some of it really sucks. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Back on it. | ||
| We'll get back to that in a minute here, but before we do, Jordan, let's say hello to some new walks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, RFK Jr. has my vote as the only candidate to release a song with Dickie Barrett, daytime bartender. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| That is so sad to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a Boston song. | ||
| Next, Care, K-A-A-R-E, and Tess, Care is... | ||
| Ah, goddammit. | ||
| Care is pronounced like Car-E. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Not fair. | ||
| Sometimes I wonder if you, you know, I can read block text, so I'm always wondering if you have the left straight, left to right thing. | ||
| I generally, I think I'm a little bit more able to see a sentence as a whole, but not right now. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Next, my friends call me Ratly. | ||
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Again. | |
| Pronounced like Ratly and said more like Ratly! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| I'm pre-reading this next one. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| Next, I'm a father, I'm a mother, I'm Chip B. Fontos. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Next, DJ PJ recommends Wow Wow by Neil Ciciorega for your pleasure slash torment. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to King Friday. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| It is really funny, though, how much Dickie Barrett has songs about, like, bartending at times when you wouldn't think someone's bartending. | ||
| Like, in the song Jump Through the Hoops, it's like, my job, it's a nine-to-five nightmare. | ||
| I'm serving whiskey, stale wit, and beer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, you're a nine-to-five bartender. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| I mean, maybe he's an airport bartender. | ||
| Right, but that sucks. | ||
| That does suck. | ||
| Or you're working at a hotel bar or something. | ||
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Yeah, that could be rough. | |
| It's some kind of place without a lot of character. | ||
| You're not going to have a lot of fun drunks at 9.30 a.m. | ||
| Yeah, but then there's another song called The Bartender's Song. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| May I have another. | ||
| We're really grown to love each other. | ||
| I mean, it's the point of view that tells you the difference between the two. | ||
| You know, who's looking inwards and who's looking outwards. | ||
| But I imagine someone singing. | ||
| That, like, rowdy bartender song at, like, 11 a.m., you know, during the 9 to 5 shift. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's depressing. | ||
| That's a little bit tough. | ||
| Usually you wait until 1 for a song like that. | ||
| I guess another drinking song that's not really, like, about bartending. | ||
| That's about counting on a remedy I've counted on before. | ||
| Going with the cure that's never failed me. | ||
| Enough of this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's an anti-vaxxer. | ||
| So depressing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's regroup and listen to an out-of-context drop from today's show. | ||
| This could be my last message. | ||
| Things have gotten so serious here. | ||
| I'm not being dramatic. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| He's not being dramatic. | ||
| Alright, this could be his last message. | ||
| His last message. | ||
| His final message. | ||
| I can say that it already has... | ||
| It's not. | ||
| He has given messages since the recording of that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, Jordan, we got a bunch of different things going on here today. | ||
| And because of that, we're going to end up hearing a little bit from a number of people in the Infowars stable. | ||
| So we're going to start with some Owen Troyer news. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Of course, he was January 6th. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Did some business there. | ||
| Who did? | ||
| And so, the news came out this week that he was going to be sentenced. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And there's a possibility that he's going to do time. | ||
| Ooh, that'd be fun. | ||
| Yeah, so that is the first little bit of business that we are going to touch on here. | ||
| And to give a little refresher for Owen's legal situation, in case folks aren't aware, He had a big mistake that he made that started everything. | ||
| And that was on December 9th, 2019. | ||
| He disrupted a House Judiciary Committee meeting while they were in session discussing one of the times Trump got impeached. | ||
| After he refused to come to order, he was removed from the chamber and he was arrested. | ||
| Up to this point, I disagree with his politics, but I support his ability to do this. | ||
| This is in the realm of activism, and in a situation like this, when you decide to engage with this level of direct action, you're also accepting the consequences that come along with it. | ||
| You can agree or disagree with the appropriateness of the consequences, but you're kind of a loser if you do these sorts of things and don't take the resulting punishment with a stiff upper lip. | ||
| Bold, in-your-face protest and shitty whining, they don't play well together. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's the idea of the meaning of the protest is you accepting the consequences for it. | ||
| It is a lot of the way that it engages with the people seeing the protest. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| If you go to Congress in order to get attention... | ||
| The act of getting attention is not going to make anything change. | ||
| It is the consistent level of awareness of the punishment for something being, you know, like... | ||
| And when you respond to it with like, why am I being punished? | ||
| It's kind of... | ||
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Oh, that's... | |
| Yeah, it's sad. | ||
| Yeah, it's real sad. | ||
| He should want to do some time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As a result of that arrest, Owen agreed to a deferred prosecution agreement. | ||
| This is important to understand. | ||
| Instead of accepting actual consequences like jail or a fine, Owen made a deal with the government, and he found this agreement preferable to whatever else was an option that was on the table. | ||
| This agreement involved him agreeing, quote, not to utter loud threatening or abusive language or to engage in any disorderly or disruptive conduct at any place upon the U.S. Capitol grounds or within any of the Capitol buildings with the intent to impede, disrupt, or disturb the orderly conduct within any such building. | ||
| He also couldn't break any other laws during this deferred prosecution period, and he needed to do 32 hours of community service. | ||
| 32 is an important number of hours. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And he did zero. | ||
| I think you can make an argument that the government is essentially taking away Owen's right to protest at the Capitol here, and that might be a First Amendment issue if you really wanted to make it one. | ||
| I don't really care, though, for two reasons. | ||
| The first is that this prohibition would have gone away after his... | ||
| passed. | ||
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And the second is that Owen agreed to it. | |
| If he read this and thought it was a horrible breach of his God-given rights, then it stands to reason that the right thing to do would have been to reject the deal and take your chances in court. | ||
| The government didn't take any rights from Owen, they offered him a deal, and Owen willingly gave up that right, or at least temporarily. | ||
| As we know, Owen failed to ever do that 32 hours of community service, so the four-month deferment of prosecution didn't end after four months. | ||
| There's a chance if he really were the target of the government the way Owen and Inforrest like to present, he would have been scooped up as soon as that four months lapsed and he hadn't done his part of the deal, but instead things went as normal until he violated his agreement by participating in the events of January 6th. | ||
| One of the main reasons given for why he was given lenience with getting the community service done even past that four months was that COVID made things harder, which is fun because he didn't believe COVID was real at the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's cool. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's the only reason he got arrested after January 6th. | ||
| He never went to the building and most likely didn't commit any crimes that day, but he was in direct violation of a plea agreement he signed onto to avoid more serious consequences. | ||
| Also, Owen's lawyer is Norm Pattis, so we can chalk that up as the third big L this year. | ||
| Dude is in a slump. | ||
| He's not having a good run. | ||
| He is hurting. | ||
| I mean, you gotta bench the guy sooner or later, right? | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| And I don't mean make him a judge. | ||
| I don't mean that. | ||
| No? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Do not give him... | ||
| The bench. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's too late. | ||
| I've made him a judge. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| So on June 23rd of this year, Owen pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge of entering or remaining in restricted grounds relating to January 6th. | ||
| He was looking at three other misdemeanors which were dropped in exchange for the guilty plea because the government wasn't trying to destroy him. | ||
| They were just trying to get all this stuff over with. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The maximum penalty was one year in jail and a $100,000 fine, which obviously he was never going to get hit with. | ||
| I was going... | ||
| It's over Owen's plea deal, and they list his criminal history in there. | ||
| One thing I thought was wild is that he was arrested one time in 2011 for a DWI and possession of marijuana. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Yeah? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Oh, that's fine. | ||
| Yeah, that's fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not that interesting on its own, but what is interesting is that that happened in Boone County. | ||
| That's the county in Missouri where Columbia is located, meaning that me and Owen Troyer were both probably in Columbia at that point in time and smoking a ton of weed around that stretch. | ||
| I went to a lot of weird house parties, so it's entirely possible that we were at the same party and never knew it. | ||
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That's... | |
| I refuse to... | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Owen, you have to let me know if you were ever on East Campus. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You gotta let me know, buddy. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| Did you ever go to the J Slums? | ||
| Let me out of here. | ||
| Let me out. | ||
| Of this game. | ||
| I don't know who's watching everything. | ||
| Me and Owen played flip cup once. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Am I in a coma? | ||
| I think I'm in a coma. | ||
| That's gotta be it. | ||
| I knew he was from Missouri, but I thought mostly St. Louis was where he was. | ||
| I didn't think of... | ||
| If you're from St. Louis, it's very unlikely you're gonna get a DUI driving through Boone County. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I guess maybe if you're drunkenly going from Kansas City to St. Louis, you'd go through Columbia on I-70, but... | ||
| Maybe he was tailgating. | ||
| That's a long tailgate. | ||
| That is a long tailgate. | ||
| But you never know. | ||
| Mizzou fans are strange. | ||
| He is the Cuck Destroyer. | ||
| Not this point. | ||
| Oh, no, that's true. | ||
| He's maybe a sports reporter. | ||
| So recently, the government released their sentencing memorandum to the court, and in it, they recommended four months in jail, 12 months probation, 60 hours of community service, and a $500 fine. | ||
| This was largely predicated on Owen's actions and his role in the months of incitement surrounding the events that would transpire on the 6th. | ||
| Owen showed literally zero remorse for his actions, and in the time after his offense, if anything, he made things worse. | ||
| I understand where the government sentence memo is coming from, for sure. | ||
| Personally, I'm wary of this punishment. | ||
| I say that as someone who isn't really aware of what a person would get. | ||
| Like, who isn't Owen Troyer for trespassing in slightly different circumstances? | ||
| So maybe the sentence is actually completely normal for this kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like breaking a deferred prosecution agreement, trespassing. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I just find myself torn between what I think is fully appropriate carrying out of a sentence for a crime and what I think is more productive for limiting the damage people like Alex and Owen can do. | ||
| If Owen is sent to jail for a few months, that's not going to be that severe of a punishment for him, and he will learn zero lessons from it. | ||
| However, it will be a bonanza for Infowars propaganda. | ||
| They can run coverage that the government is jailing journalists and all other manner of fabrications around the story, and the fact that Owen went to jail will make that propaganda that much more persuasive to, you know, an accepting audience. | ||
| I don't think you should just get a slap on the wrist, but jail seems like it plays into Infowars' hands. | ||
| I would have loved to see, like, a creative sentencing judge here, one of those, like, sort of nonsense judges who, like, give you the placards and stuff. | ||
| Well, I mean, the problem here is that if you are, you're saying that you want the crime to happen again, but you want him to get hurt first. | ||
| You want the crime to happen again, and we'll make sure it's successful as best you can the next time. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| If you're the person writing this sentence, it's like fucking banking. | ||
| It's like, oh, okay, you've got a million dollar fine. | ||
| Now you made a billion dollars, but that million dollars will teach you a big lesson. | ||
| Yeah, it's stupid. | ||
| You're wasting everybody's time. | ||
| I think the punishment should have to be a probationary period of six months where he has to have somebody, maybe me, I'll do it for free, be on his show and go bop bop bop whenever he says something that's not true. | ||
| Because that would actually have a disruptive role in the things that he does that are dangerous. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| As opposed to going to jail where you run the risk of turning him into some kind of like a weird martyr. | ||
| He's just gonna call into InfoWars! | ||
| Well... | ||
| Oh, is it against the rules for him to be on air? | ||
| Nah, I'm gonna have to spoil this ahead of time since you brought it up. | ||
| One of the other stories that we were gonna catch up on was that Enrique Tarrio was scheduled to be on Infowars on Wednesday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that didn't happen. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Maybe he couldn't get to the phone because he's in jail. | ||
| There is that! | ||
| Maybe the warden was sick of the bullshit. | ||
| It's entirely possible that he was just punished for some stupid infraction. | ||
| Or maybe he realized this is going to be worse for me than not doing it. | ||
| Probably a smart move. | ||
| So anyway... | ||
| Head down, you'll get out in eight, ten years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I am not that interested in Alex's take on this, but I decided to check in on what Harrison Smith had to say about Owen's arrest. | ||
| And so he put out a video that was about Owen going to jail and how unfair this is and everything. | ||
| And so I thought, hey, let's check in on our little Nazi boy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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And so here's where we're going to start. | |
| There's a reason that Alex Jones was targeted more than anybody else. | ||
| Obviously, he has a particular skill in getting information out in a way that is more... | ||
| Provocative and attention-grabbing than anybody else, that's true. | ||
| He's been warning about what we now see manifest all around us for the last 20 years. | ||
| He reported accurately on the activities of the globalists and their plans for world domination and global depopulation. | ||
| There are lots of reasons that could contribute to it, but I think one of the main things really is summed up in Possibly the longest-standing slogan of Infowars, which is, you are the resistance. | ||
| If you're hearing this, you are the resistance. | ||
| In other words, it's not just that Alex Jones talked about all this stuff. | ||
| After all, a lot of people talk about all this stuff. | ||
| Maybe not in the way that Alex does and to the extent that Alex does. | ||
| But it's not his talking about it, I believe, that really put a target on his back. | ||
| It was the activism. | ||
| It was telling people to get involved. | ||
| It was not just... | ||
| describing what's going on in the political and geopolitical world as some sort of sports game that you're just watching and have no impact on the outcome, but actually encouraging people to manifest their will to get involved. | ||
| So I totally agree with what Harrison is saying, except I think he's speaking in code a little bit. | ||
| Alex didn't speak the truth and encourage people towards activism, which is why he was punished. | ||
| He lied to people and demonized vulnerable individuals and groups, which Harrison calls speaking the truth. | ||
| He encouraged people to harass and threaten individuals like the parents of slain children, which is what Harrison is calling activism. | ||
| These are the things that have made Alex a, quote, target, not any kind of threat he poses to the world's power elites. | ||
| If you just understand that Harrison and all of these people are full of shit and never speak plainly, then you can see how they superimpose that bullshit onto reality. | ||
| Nothing Alex does or advocates for is even the potential to lead to meaningful protest or activism. | ||
| At the least destructive, it all leads to things that enrich Alex. | ||
| At the most, you end up with an attempt to overthrow the country and install an extreme right-wing dictator. | ||
| It's a con or a coup, but it is never activism. | ||
| I saw you jotting a little note down there. | ||
| I just think it's a bad idea for Harrison to say that Alex was telling people to do things, considering he has said in court many times that he is not doing that. | ||
| I'm just telling the news, man. | ||
| It is an issue. | ||
| Hey, look, I was just reading the headlines. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| I mean, if I'm Harrison Smith, this is what disgusts me about these people. | ||
| This is what disgusts me, right? | ||
| Comedy days. | ||
| If I'm finding out somebody's working at... | ||
| Whenever I took Zany's MC job. | ||
| If I find out that a comic is going to jail, I'm thinking, spots opening up. | ||
| Then I'm getting out there. | ||
| I'm showing off. | ||
| All right? | ||
| I'm trying to get that attention, right? | ||
| So I can take that spot. | ||
| Harrison is not doing shit! | ||
| Can I suggest that it's because he doesn't have it in him? | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| Man, they disgust me! | ||
| If you don't have it in you, he should be hiring a coach. | ||
| He should be taking improv classes right now. | ||
| Something. | ||
| He's like the guy when the light turns green and he doesn't know to hit the gas. | ||
| There is no fight instinct in him. | ||
| Yeah, it's sad. | ||
| It's just sad to watch. | ||
| It is. | ||
| You've got Owen, number two, a weak number two. | ||
| You're right. | ||
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A very vulnerable position. | |
| Yes. | ||
| If any of you ding-dongs were capable at all, you would usurp him in a minute. | ||
| It's so easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's even going to be gone. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I still think that there's a chance. | ||
| I mean, that's just the recommendation as of the time that we're recording this. | ||
| So, like, there is a chance that he won't see a day in prison. | ||
| I mean, just... | ||
| I want a deal. | ||
| And this is all I want. | ||
| Make him actually do 60 hours of community service or put him in jail. | ||
| He would call doing another caravan tour community service. | ||
| Doesn't count. | ||
| I just want him to actually do the 60 hours or face consequences. | ||
| That should be the real test of a man. | ||
| But he's already failed that. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| So you're saying two strikes. | ||
| Two strikes. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I mean, hey. | ||
| Listen, we all think that we're going to get away with not doing community service. | ||
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True. | |
| Right? | ||
| But this video is supposed to be about Owen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so far it's about Alex. | ||
| It's entirely about Alex. | ||
| So we've got to pivot a little bit over to Owen. | ||
| When Chase joined Infowars a little while ago and he was posting things on social media and he was going, I didn't expect Owen to be as shadow banned as Alex. | ||
| Obviously Alex is the main big guy and he's just absolutely banned on everything. | ||
| I mean, they've got AI systems that can detect his voice and face and will strike you down if they detect it. | ||
| And Chase was shocked to realize that Owen Schroer had basically all of the same restrictions This is complete lunacy. | ||
| If what Harrison is saying were true, I would never be able to post our podcast anywhere without getting shadow banned. | ||
| If this were true, then all the memes about Alex wouldn't get millions of views. | ||
| There's so many things that go all over social media that are just videos of him going like, blah! | ||
| Absurd. | ||
| These dudes just... | ||
| Aren't really as popular as they pretend to be, and they fetishize their own oppression so much that they need this kind of story to justify it all. | ||
| It's pretty sad. | ||
| Just deal with being pretty successful instead of someone holding you down. | ||
| I was just thinking about this. | ||
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Man, it is so great to be pretty good! | |
| I mean, I was some level of fame. | ||
| I expected nothing and we have exceeded that by a little. | ||
| And it's great! | ||
| It's great! | ||
| Never would I have thought we'd be pretty okay. | ||
| Yeah, and it helps that I've never wanted stuff. | ||
| I don't want things or anything like that. | ||
| I just enjoy... | ||
| And that we don't pretend that we're in a battle with a mythological demon enemy. | ||
| No. | ||
| That probably helps us a little. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think it is... | ||
| Here's what I'll tell you this. | ||
| Here's what I think is what mainly does it. | ||
| We're still recording in your room, buddy. | ||
| True. | ||
| Just still here. | ||
| And that's not going to change. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| The room may change a little bit. | ||
| I have drapes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| There's some more decor. | ||
| If we tried to move to, like, a studio, I think we would have to have egos commensurate with, like, you know, you would have to be like, oh, I'm a studio person. | ||
| Well, one time I tried to get those arms that attach to the desk so you can hold your mic on it, and it just sat there. | ||
| I was like, I'm not using that. | ||
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No. | |
| But I thought, like, that's what people do. | ||
| That's what people do! | ||
| They have the thing, and they do the thing. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
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We hold the mics like we're doing stand-up. | |
| Like, we've always done. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| Maybe we're complacent in some ways. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Anyway, Harrison's a fucking dope. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He says, yeah, he took a megaphone and led the crowd to the Capitol, planting in the minds of the readers that Owen somehow stormed the Capitol, that he was the one who led people there to, you know, specifically attack it. | ||
| Nothing of the sort. | ||
| He was in the crowd that was walking towards the Capitol, I believe, after the... | ||
| You know, violence had started. | ||
| Violence that was started, of course, by the police. | ||
| He said, quote, The Democrats are posing as communists, but we know what they really are. | ||
| They're just tyrants. | ||
| They're tyrants. | ||
| And so today, on January 6th, we declare death to tyranny. | ||
| Death to tyrants. | ||
| Schroer did not stop the sight of tear gas or sounds of explosion on the west side of the Capitol. | ||
| He continued marching around to the top of the east steps, chanting 1776. | ||
| Wow, throw him in prison. | ||
| Wow, throw him in jail. | ||
| Year of the foundation of our country? | ||
| Yeah, that's why you're saying that. | ||
| Yeah, to throw him in jail, I guess. | ||
| Of course, he also said, don't go in the Capitol. | ||
| He also encouraged people not to go in the Capitol, he and Alex Jones. | ||
| In my introduction, I presented a better defense for Owen than Harrison is doing. | ||
| And there's one specific reason why. | ||
| It's because Heron... | ||
| Harrison can't actually use all the real information about the case without giving up the game. | ||
| Harrison cannot bring up that none of these defenses that he's making matter. | ||
| No one's saying that Owen stormed the Capitol or that he was the leader of the crowd. | ||
| It doesn't matter if he told people not to go in. | ||
| None of that matters because he was in violation of a deferred prosecution agreement that he willingly signed. | ||
| Just by being on the Capitol grounds that day and having a bullhorn. | ||
| None of the other shit matters at all. | ||
| Harrison can spend all day with these meaningless, but Owen's a good boy type arguments, but it doesn't matter because he can't get real with it. | ||
| I mean, the thing that still gets in my craw is that if he'd have just done the goddamn 32 hours, then the agreement would have been over. | ||
| It would have been ended by then. | ||
| He could have gotten in trouble for being there. | ||
| But he wouldn't have been arrested for the actions that he took. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A much better defense for Owen, actually, and I think that's kind of what you're touching on, is that COVID made it impossible for him to do his community service. | ||
| But saying that violates a fair amount of InfoWars' narrative foundation, so Harrison can't do that. | ||
| It's a solid defense to say that a sentence of jail time is excessive for the violation of this deferred prosecution agreement, and that there should be some lenience, but Harrison can't say that because he needs to make Owen a victim of the state, not a victim of his own laziness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because Infowar's editorial position has an investment in narratives that are broader than just Owen, they're forced to make weaker arguments for Owen's defense than me, someone who hates Owen Schroyer, though I might have partied with him in Missouri at some point. | ||
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It's possible. | |
| It's possible. | ||
| Fuck them, man. | ||
| They can't even defend their own because they won't get real. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It is a weird thing that it's like the thing you do is specifically in opposition to yourself. | ||
| And Harrison should recognize that in the off chance that he ever is on the wrong side of this in the future. | ||
| There's so many things that they could learn from... | ||
| You are not more important than the grift. | ||
| It's something we've said a number of times. | ||
| It stands. | ||
| I understand that it would feel bad to be yelled at by us if you were on InfoWars, but it's a good idea to listen to our show to keep yourself safe. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's good advice to be heard, even from people who clearly don't like you much and think you suck and you're a baby Nazi. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| So anyway, we have one more clip here of Harrison because I just got sick and tired of his dumb ass. | ||
| These people did something based on a belief. | ||
| He shares that belief. | ||
| Therefore, he is guilty of doing that thing. | ||
| That's what they're telling you. | ||
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Guess what? | |
| I guess I'm also guilty. | ||
| Like, as I'm reading this, I'm trying to figure out, like, what did Owen do that I didn't do? | ||
| He was in Washington, D.C. at the time. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And? | ||
| Okay, he talked about the election being stolen. | ||
| So did I. He's probably pretty angry about it. | ||
| So was I. I mean, it's sort of horrifying. | ||
| Owen violated a deferred prosecution agreement by being at the Capitol, whereas Harrison didn't. | ||
| He didn't have one. | ||
| Alex's wife was marching with them, and you might notice she hasn't been arrested either. | ||
| It's probably because she also didn't have a deferred prosecution agreement that she was violating by being there. | ||
| This shit sucks. | ||
| I was hoping Harrison would have Owen on to talk about this, but I get the sense that maybe Owen is hip to the situation, and that he doesn't want to make things worse for himself. | ||
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No, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| As it is, this is a complete snooze, and that's all we're going to cover from Harrison's show and Owen's legal troubles. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| If this is the best Harrison could come up with to defend his compatriot, then he's terrible at this, and he's not even trying. | ||
| So, at this point, I saw that we should probably jump to the next story, and the next story I intended to cover was the Enrique Tarrio thing, but, of course, that didn't happen. | ||
| Yeah, as is usually the case. | ||
| But because you mentioned something that was adjacent to it, I'm deprived of the opportunity to pull the rug on you. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| You can't win them all. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| So, we have to get to number three. | ||
| Subject number three. | ||
| And that, of course, is the death of the head of the Wagner group, Yevgeny Prigozhin. | ||
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| We haven't talked about that! | ||
| Yeah, he died on August 23rd in a plane crash that almost everybody who has paid any attention to the world is pretty sure was done by Putin. | ||
| Prigozhin had recently attempted a bit of a coup and led the Wagner forces to take over a Russian-held town and said that they were going to march on Moscow, only to later speak with Putin and come to an agreement. | ||
| He was going to face criminal charges, but those were dropped, and he was set to be exiled to Belarus, along with the Wagner forces that were loyal to him. | ||
| And then he died in a plane crash, which is widely believed to have been caused by a bomb that was on board the plane. | ||
| And as we know, Putin is a thing for killing his opponents. | ||
| Naturally, Alex and the Infowars crew blamed the globalists in Ukraine, which is kind of boring, all things considered. | ||
| But recently... | ||
| Owen Schroer had an interesting take on the situation on the war room, and that's something that we should give a little bit of a listen to. | ||
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All right. | |
| So here we go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's Owen. | ||
| All right, before we start taking your phone calls, let's just show this video to you. | ||
| Dead Wagner boss seen in new video saying all is fine as conspiracy theories grow. | ||
| Here is the video. | ||
| For those wondering whether I'm alive or not, how am I doing? | ||
| It's the weekend, the second half of August in 2023. | ||
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I'm in Africa. | |
| I'm now in Africa. | ||
| So fans of the discussion of my elimination, personal life, earnings, or something else, in fact, everything is okay. | ||
| So... | ||
| Who knows what the real story here is? | ||
| Like, isn't it Owen's job as somebody who reports the news to have a better bit of information than who knows? | ||
| That really sounds like someone who doesn't give a fuck about the job they're doing. | ||
| If Owen wanted to go one step past who knows, like actual journalists and media outlets do, he could have learned that the outfit that Pergosian is wearing in that video is identical to the one that he wore in a video that was posted on August 21st, which would have been the weekend in the second half of August, which is when this was recorded. | ||
| This is two days before the plane crash, and the references he makes to his elimination aren't about that crash. | ||
| They're about the other very obvious rumors surrounding how he was a dead man walking after trying that whole coup thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Owen and everyone at Infoars needs to stop their investigation at the point of who knows, because if they find any further information, they don't get to play their games, and then they have no reason to exist. | ||
| If Owen looked any further into this and found all the indications that this video is from prior to his death... | ||
| Then there isn't a story here, and there's no opportunity to spin conspiracies to keep the audience interested, and without those conspiracies, you aren't interested. | ||
| You aren't interested? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that a contraction I can make? | ||
| You aren't interested! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| So, yeah, that's, uh, Purgosian might be alive is maybe the theory we're running with. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| I would full-throat that theory. | ||
| Like, because here's what... | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| You can't be... | ||
| Can't disprove it. | ||
| You can't be dumb enough... | ||
| He's somewhere. | ||
| ...to think... | ||
| That he didn't know he was under assassination. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He would have to be incredibly stupid. | ||
| Yeah, I think the idea behind this would be that he faked his death. | ||
| He, of course, faked his death. | ||
| You would have to fake your death. | ||
| That's the first thing I would do. | ||
| The moment I signed an agreement with Putin, I would be like, okay, how are we going to fake my death? | ||
| Because that dude is a murderer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He murders people. | ||
| It's got to be a... | ||
| Crazy death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To make it so people don't think it's fake. | ||
| And it's a big plane crash, and it's a bomb, and it's all the stuff, and of course they have to say that they found his remains. | ||
| There's no way Putin's going to say that, oh, he faked his death and I know it because I didn't kill him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If he faked his death and Putin knows he faked his death, then he's still going to be trying to come and after him. | ||
| Yeah, but he still has to say. | ||
| He has to keep the charade. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because it's a chess game at this point. | ||
| Exactly, yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Owen has a little bit more of a take on this. | ||
| And I'm not really all that interested anymore. | ||
| It passed the point that Owen is suggesting this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But this clip is fun because apparently Owen is on a pet name basis with Kogosian. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Obviously, people are going to take that seriously and already are. | ||
| There was already rumors that there was a body double or he switched planes or whatever before the one got shot down. | ||
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I mean, 99% chance Putin made the call. | |
| He's... | ||
| Smart enough not to have his fingerprints on it, and in classic KGB fashion, he's at the brick summit, shaking hands, drinking wine while the thing happens. | ||
| Oh, I didn't know anything about it. | ||
| I mean, if I thought in the past that Putin and Priggy were running some sort of their own shadow office, I would say that if Prigozian is still alive, that that's proof that was not the case, and there is a real struggle going on. | ||
| But we know there already is a real struggle at the Russian military. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Yeah, so Owen's take here is essentially that if Purgosian is dead, then there isn't a real struggle in the military. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| But if he faked his death, then... | ||
| There is. | ||
| Because he's leading... | ||
| Maybe I'm backwards. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure, but either way, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. | ||
| I mean, I just feel like this is just too obvious, alright? | ||
| Either Putin killed him, or he faked his own death. | ||
| There's no... | ||
| You would have to be insane. | ||
| Alex would generally like to go with blaming it on Zelensky. | ||
| Because that works for his pro-Russia leanings. | ||
| I understand that, but it doesn't make any sense for anybody but Putin. | ||
| It makes so much sense. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It also does not make sense for Zelensky, really. | ||
| It makes no sense for anyone but Putin. | ||
| No one. | ||
| Not even people who want to maintain stability in Russia. | ||
| It is more unstable with Putin there than without him. | ||
| And everybody wanted... | ||
| I want him to stay alive except for Putin. | ||
| Just go to Belarus. | ||
| Man, crazy. | ||
| So anyway, he's swinging. | ||
| Owen's swinging for the fences. | ||
| You can say that about him. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, the next thing that made some headlines, unfortunately, takes us back to Harrison Smith. | ||
| Oh, goddammit. | ||
| In the past week or so, the hashtag ban the ADL had been trending, which Twitter's owner, Elon Musk, even got into the act about. | ||
| Now he's getting in, having fun with, get rid of this ADL. | ||
| The levels of rampant anti-Semitism on display was truly shocking. | ||
| And to be clear, having legitimate criticisms of the ADL is not anti-Semitic. | ||
| They're an organization that makes decisions, and no one has a perfect track record. | ||
| But... | ||
| It's important also to be clear that this is not what that hashtag was. | ||
| No. | ||
| Or any of that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| People like Alex really hate the ADL because they point out how the stuff that they say is really anti-Semitic and dangerous, which prompts them to insist that the ADL is trying to ban free speech. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not a sincere argument. | ||
| it's a game. | ||
| Anyway, the ADL has been a target for Alex going all the way back to his early career when he and Mel Gibson's Nazi dad whined about them on air at length for criticizing the Passion of the Christ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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This is a lane that InfoWars has always driven. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
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He got on air on September 1st and said that the ADL was, quote, our self-appointed unelected Jewish overlords. | |
| On its face, you can easily see the signaling that he's doing to anti-Semitic groups that he panders to. | ||
| He evokes the idea of Jewish overlords, a hat tip to the protocols of the elders of Zion, that's about as subtle as a car horn. | ||
| Some media outlets covered this comment that Harrison made, so I'm not going to recover that, and if I'm being honest, it's really not that interesting. | ||
| That's what Harrison and Alex say basically every day. | ||
| These outlets that are breathlessly covering this one comment Harrison made would be scandalized on a non-stop basis if they actually watched... | ||
| Yeah, it is wild. | ||
| This is tame for their commentary about the ADL. | ||
| Yeah, I'm blown away that this is... | ||
| I thought you were about to say that he then said some real Nazi shit. | ||
| No, that was what some of the headlines were about the Jewish overlords comment. | ||
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I mean, listen, I don't support it. | |
| Sure, no, it's bad, but it doesn't... | ||
| We don't have a meter anymore, though. | ||
| No, we just don't. | ||
| No, and my only meter at all here is that, like... | ||
| You could have found something way worse than this. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| If you're in the business of a headline, there's better headlines that are far more uniquely offensive. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| This is bland offensive, but it is still offensive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think what it is, right, is because we live in it, we know the varying flavors of horror. | ||
| This is de rigueur. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's passé and it's awfulness. | ||
| But for them, there's only one flavor of horror. | ||
| And so they've got their horror, so they're not going to go into more horror to wade deeper into it. | ||
| See, that's the difference between them and me. | ||
| I'm built different. | ||
| You're built different. | ||
| I dive in and like, if there's this bad thing in here, I wonder what else is there. | ||
| Oh, you and Patrick Mahomes. | ||
| Both Missouri. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Patrick Mahomes, Owen Schroer and I once did a keg stand contest. | ||
| All Missouri boys. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| I don't know if he's from Missouri, but he plays with the Chiefs. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| So, I do want to cover something. | ||
| And it's not... | ||
| Harrison's comments. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So I'm going to cover Harrison fielding a call from a listener after this dust-up. | ||
| This is a caller who's mad that Harrison isn't anti-Semitic enough. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Which creates a dynamic that I actually do think is interesting. | ||
| This is territory that Alex himself is fairly used to navigating, but Harrison is far and away the worst and least talented on-air Infowars talent, so let's see how he deals with this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See if he can swing this call. | ||
| I'm interested. | ||
| So here's where we start. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| With that, we go back out to your phone calls for this final segment before welcoming Laura Loomer. | ||
| We have Gold in Arizona. | ||
| Gold in Arizona says the West is collapsing. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Gold, you're on the air. | ||
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Hey, actually, I said the West is collapsing because of people like you and Alex Jones, because you refuse to acknowledge God's word that says that unbelievers... | |
| Like Jewish people who don't believe, not including Jewish Christians, are our persecutors. | ||
| Galatians 4:21-31 says that they are our persecutors. | ||
| And you refuse to acknowledge that. | ||
| You like to be like the gay people who think they can just manipulate God's word, ignore God's word, and get away with it. | ||
| You're no different than they are when you ignore God's word. | ||
| And then you want to act surprised when the ADL is in control of the definition of anti-Semitism, which is basically Christianity to them. | ||
| But, you know, they're validating every Christian throughout history who says, listen, these people are dangerous. | ||
| They're out for blood. | ||
| They want us. | ||
| You and Alex Jones, you want to live in a naive fantasy that freedom of religion. | ||
| You know what's freedom of religion? | ||
| That's not explicitly Christian. | ||
| It's Satanism. | ||
| Aleister Crowley said, do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. | ||
| So, you know, do whatever you want. | ||
| That's Satanism. | ||
| That's what you promote. | ||
| You and Alex Jones, you promote Satanism. | ||
| And then you want to act surprised when we're being persecuted by Jews. | ||
| Which the Bible warns you about. | ||
| And go and read that, everybody. | ||
| Galatians 4, 21-31. | ||
| They are our persecutors. | ||
| And the Bible and Revelations also says that they call themselves Jews but actually worship Satan. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Satan, isn't that what it says? | ||
| I'm just... | ||
| Did you call me gay? | ||
| I'm confused. | ||
| I'm confused. | ||
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No, I'm saying the gay people ignore God's word and you do the same thing. | |
| I ignore God's word very quickly. | ||
| How so? | ||
| So it's cute that Harrison tries to deflect things with a joke there with the are-you-calling-me-gay bit of business. | ||
| It's stupid, and it's only meant to buy himself a little time and hopefully put the caller on the defensive, but you can see it doesn't work, because this caller means what he's saying, and he has thought out his position. | ||
| Harrison has to do this because in this call, he needs to dance. | ||
| This caller has a coherent position, which isn't to say that he's right or that I agree with him, nor is it to say that he's right that if you're a Christian you have to hate all other religions, but his position follows... | ||
| From its premises. | ||
| Like, it actually goes from A to B to C. Harrison's does not, because Infowars' ideology is so dependent on hiding behind crypto-language, like the globalists, in order to mask the real themes that they're preaching. | ||
| That dynamic puts Harrison in a bad spot. | ||
| Alex will usually be able to handle this with yelling, putting someone on hold, and then assigning positions to them that they didn't say in order to attack a strawman version of what they bring up. | ||
| Harrison's tactic here at the start is a bit worse from a tactical perspective. | ||
| I wouldn't have gone this way if I got this vibe off this guy. | ||
| Already, out the gate, you let him talk too long. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He got too much airtime. | ||
| Alex would never have let him get that much airtime. | ||
| I think that part of that is because Harrison agrees with him. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then second, because he doesn't know how to handle this. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| He's in a bad spot. | ||
| I mean, just... | ||
| Try. | ||
| Get a coach. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Do some laps. | ||
| Invest in something, you know? | ||
| Do some mock radio shows where you can encounter difficult situations in a safe environment. | ||
| Like, it bums me out, but when I stop and really think about it, for years of my life... | ||
| For free or for money, I just went out and yelled at people to get better at it. | ||
| Take it even a step further. | ||
| You're just talking about shows. | ||
| Think about how many nights were at open mics. | ||
| The only people that you're talking to were other comics who hated you, didn't give a fuck, and were just waiting to go up and do the same thing you're doing. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| A completely ungenerous audience where you're going through the motions. | ||
| Somewhat, and also like feeling out where words are and how it feels to say different things. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Because given the opportunity to be in front of a group of people, you wanted to be ready. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| These guys don't do that. | ||
| They don't do it. | ||
| No. | ||
| It just never occurred. | ||
| You know, one year I was out more than 27 days of every month, except for February. | ||
| I was out 27 days. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Whatever it was. | ||
| But it was like every night hitting an open mic or doing a show. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Getting very good at the thing that I wanted to be good at. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There were stretches of time where I was like, minimum one a night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Minimum one time on stage a night. | ||
| And you're still doing a day job. | ||
| You're still like, it's brutal. | ||
| It's brutal. | ||
| But a lot of that, I mean... | ||
| So much of that was because there's just so much talent here in Chicago that people were inspiring. | ||
| And then you had people like Danny Callis around. | ||
| Giving you the three mic a night advice. | ||
| Oh man, Danny, I'm so mad at him for drilling that in my head. | ||
| You've got this guy who's hilarious. | ||
| Really funny. | ||
| Who's a headliner and works his ass off. | ||
| And still at open mics. | ||
| More open mics than you. | ||
| Makes you feel so lazy. | ||
| In a good way, in an inspiring way, if you're not going out and putting the time in. | ||
| It makes you want to hustle, it makes you want to grind, and it makes you a better comic, and also I will never forgive him for it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this caller, he brought up Galatians, and we'll get into that a little bit later. | ||
| I was hoping we would. | ||
| Yeah, but for now, let's just move along the call. | ||
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like there are a lot of so-called Christians who promote being gay or they say it's okay to be gay or they themselves are gay and they say oh yeah God's okay with that and they're ignoring God's Word that's what I'm saying the dynamic is that they ignore God's Word and we can say listen what's wrong with you don't you see clearly here what it says about being gay and they will argue with you all day long about how no God's not really like that and you're doing the same thing | |
| Have you checked your eye for a plank of wood today, Gold? | ||
| Do you remember what Jesus said about pointing out a Bible judo? | ||
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No one's allowed to point out where you're doing something wrong. | |
| I'm trying to make you guys better. | ||
| Oh, I should thank you, Viggold. | ||
| I should thank you for helping me in all of this. | ||
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Look at God's word and quit ignoring God's word and quit hurting the country and the whole civilization in the West. | |
| Harrison's underwater in this thing. | ||
| Yeah, this is not good. | ||
| He's floundering. | ||
| He tried his Bible judo and then he got punched in the face and he wilted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wilted. | ||
| Yeah, you know, pull the log out of your own eye before the speck. | ||
| Oh, so I can't tell you anything that you're wrong. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, god damn, I had one move. | ||
| Yeah, I thought that would really make this guy on the defensive and it didn't work. | ||
| I'm screwed. | ||
| Still on the offensive, punching me in the face. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So then it comes to a point where Harrison's like, what do you want me to do? | ||
| And the answer is fucking obvious. | ||
| But he still asks. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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And quit hurting the country and the whole civilization in the West and actually acknowledge God's word. | |
| By doing what? | ||
| I still don't understand what it is that you think that we're doing. | ||
| Unbelievers, okay. | ||
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I'm saying unbelievers. | |
| Yeah, not me. | ||
| I believe in God. | ||
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No, I'm saying, no, when you say you believe in God, you're supposed to believe in God's word. | |
| Oh, I'm supposed to believe in the way you believe in God. | ||
| I see. | ||
| You're supposed to. | ||
| You're the right one, and everybody else is wrong. | ||
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Present another translation or a better understanding of what we're being told in Galatians 4, 21-31. | |
| Okay, great. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That's enough, Gold. | ||
| Thank you for the call. | ||
| I just, you know, it's... | ||
| I'll try to be nice here. | ||
| I'll try to be nice. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| Too late. | ||
| I mean, you let him talk too long to hang up on him there and save face. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You could have hung up on him earlier and been like, I don't accept this kind of talk on my show, and maybe stood on your own two feet. | ||
| You let him talk too long, he clowned on you, and now you look so weak hanging up. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So I told you we'd get back to Galatians because he brought it up again. | ||
| So I'm just going to read that ten verses to you. | ||
| Did you find a better translation? | ||
| No, but I have an interpretation and context for it that will be helpful for this anti-Semitic fuck. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So here is the verse. | ||
| Is. | ||
| Verses. | ||
| Sorry, it's a chunk of text. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Quote. | ||
| Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? | ||
| For it's written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and one by the free woman. | ||
| His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise. | ||
| These things are to be taken figuratively. | ||
| The women represent two covenants. | ||
| One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves. | ||
| This is Hagar. | ||
| Now, Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem because she is in slavery with her children. | ||
| But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. | ||
| For it is written, Be glad, barren women, you who never bore a child. | ||
| Shout for joy and cry aloud, you who were never in labor, because more are the children of the desolate women than of her who has a husband. | ||
| Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. | ||
| At that time, the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the spirit. | ||
| It is the same now. | ||
| But what does the scripture say? | ||
| Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son. | ||
| Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman. | ||
| So do you understand the way that this could be used by this guy interpretively to be like... | ||
| The slave woman is representative of Jews. | ||
| The free woman is representative of Christians. | ||
| But it's really a lot more complicated than this. | ||
| So Galatians is a book in the Bible that is one of the Paul letters. | ||
| One of the letters that Paul is sending to his church. | ||
| His churches that he's established, like Romans, the Roman church, Corinthians, the Corinth church. | ||
| Thessalonians, yeah. | ||
| So you have all of these things. | ||
| And Paul, his whole game was going around, he was founding these churches, or going to these communities and being an apostle to these already existing places. | ||
| Now, Galatians, Galatia is a place where he had a real sense of ownership over these churches. | ||
| This letter, Galatians, is pretty salty. | ||
| Because here's what's going on at this time. | ||
| He has founded these churches that he really feels like are his. | ||
| And he is preaching this way of existing and this way of relating to the laws of the traditions. | ||
| It was infighting between him and the other apostles about how the actual... | ||
| It's mostly about circumcision, honestly. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| And ways of keeping kosher and what have you. | ||
| So he's established these churches, and there are other apostles that are coming in, and they are preaching a way that is opposed to what he... | ||
| He's saying it involves keeping with these older laws. | ||
| So yeah, the people that are there in Glacier, they are not people who are like... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Christ-centric form, which wasn't understood as like Christianity in opposition to Judaism at the time. | ||
| No. | ||
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It's far more complex. | |
| Things are a lot more fluid whenever you don't have the Catholic Church. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And so you had different influences coming in, and Paul felt a sense of ownership over those Galatian churches. | |
| And so there's this desire to be like... | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| The people who follow the law, they aren't the people who are like me. | ||
| So it's not like the Jews are over here and the Christians are over here. | ||
| It's a Paul kind of defending his turf area. | ||
| And as was pointing out to me by my dad when I was talking to him about it, it's like, this is also about circumcision. | ||
| And Paul is being like, don't circumcise. | ||
| And, like, that's a battle you can only lose once. | ||
| And that's the way you put it. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| He's pretty hot. | ||
| He's coming in hot, as it were, in these letters. | ||
| But then there's also places that you can find fairly different positions that Paul is giving over time to other churches because they're in different circumstances. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's less ownership that he feels over those churches. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So when you hear what's written in here, obviously if you're approaching it from an anti-Semitic lens and looking for things to justify and say like, hey, it's biblical, my hatred of Jewish people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You can kind of get that there, but... | ||
| It's something we've talked about a hundred times. | ||
| It's like, if you have a position that you want to justify, you probably will be able to find just about anything in the Bible and force it into the hole that you need it to fit into. | ||
| Why else would it have lasted this long? | ||
| It's very useful in a lot of ways, for good and for bad. | ||
| I mean, that's the idea. | ||
| We don't keep things that aren't useful as a species. | ||
| So those were my notes of the context about Galatia. | ||
| Paul's coming in hot. | ||
| He feels like he owns these churches. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I do remember that Paul kind of gets to be a bit of an asshole later. | ||
| Well, actually, no. | ||
| That was a question that I had for my dad. | ||
| I was like, hey, is Paul kind of a dick? | ||
| I think my understanding of it was Paul didn't change that much. | ||
| Saul and Paul ain't that different. | ||
| That was my understanding of his later actions. | ||
| Paul's pretty mad at these folks who are coming in and having a different message for the churches that he feels like are his own. | ||
| Here's a little bit also from chapter 5, verse 11 and 12. Brothers and sisters, if I'm still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? | ||
| In that case, the offense of the cross has been abolished. | ||
| For those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves! | ||
| Like, there's, like, this aggression that he's coming in because of that context surrounding it. | ||
| And this caller, you know, he asks for another interpretation of this and another understanding of it that doesn't say, hey, the Jews are our persecutors. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's not interested in that. | ||
| And Harrison is unequipped. | ||
| to deal with this in any form. | ||
| He doesn't even know this verse that the person is talking about, so he's in no position to engage with the bigot on the bigot's terms. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then refute what the bigot is saying in order to defend Infowar's position as, I guess, an outlet that is too multicultural. | ||
| I mean, the thing that always confuses me is that people somehow imagine that people were different back then. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| If you put any burgeoning religion into a space and time where you can't communicate instantly with all other groups of that, then the next time y 'all get together, you're all gonna find out you believe weird, different shit! | ||
| That's how it works every goddamn time! | ||
| Well, I mean, think about if you go to college away and you come back and you find that your friend is now into something strange. | ||
| It happens every time. | ||
| A small social group, unable to communicate completely with another small social group, will find out the next time they get together that they disagree on something, and then they're going to bitch at each other. | ||
| And that's the problem with religion. | ||
| So sayeth Jordan. | ||
| So here I have, this clip is about three minutes long, and I'm keeping it as a whole because it's the rest of Harrison's response. | ||
| He tries to be nice, and here is his response to this caller who wants him to hate Jewish people more. | ||
| I think he's going to hate Jewish people in this response. | ||
| It's at very least an incompetent response. | ||
| I'll try to be nice here. | ||
| I'll try to be nice. | ||
| It's people like yourself, Gold, that really make me question whether it's all worth it. | ||
| After all, is anybody else on any airwave going after the ADL the way that we're going after them, going after the evil people the way that we go after them? | ||
| Does anybody else on any platform criticize Israel the way that I do, not because they're Jewish, but because they do evil things? | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| So the three groups he has there are the ADL, uh-huh, okay, Israel, and evil people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just like every government does. | ||
| Does anybody go out on a limb? | ||
| Does anybody have as many articles as we do calling us anti-Semites, calling us horrible things because we actually stand up for the rights of Americans against anybody who's trying to circumscribe or cut them off regardless of who's doing it? | ||
| So here we are taking all the slings and bullets, actually circumcised. | ||
| Actually counteracting the narrative that is continuously laid down by the mainstream media. | ||
| And instead of people encouraging us, instead of people saying, wow, we really appreciate how you guys are going on a limb and saying things in such an extreme way that's truthful and that's necessary, we get little ankle biters like yourself that tell us we're not doing it enough, we're not doing it the way that you would do it. | ||
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Thank God this guy got hung up on otherwise. | |
| Might be able to respond to this. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| In your interpretation of the Bible, and it really makes us just look around and go, okay, so we're suffering all of this backlash. | ||
| We have our friends and family believing horrible things about us because the media tells them things that aren't true. | ||
| We're suffering all of this backlash because we insist on telling the truth and because we insist on just being forthright and upfront about what we believe and loving everybody just like Jesus Christ instructed us to. | ||
| And what is it, you know? | ||
| What are the people that we're trying to fight for? | ||
| Tell us that we're actually the cause of all of the evil. | ||
| It's actually our fault. | ||
| And actually, there's no appreciation for what we do. | ||
| It's not good enough. | ||
| So what you're doing is taking the few people that are actually fighting for Christianity, fighting for the West, fighting for the actual values that America was founded on and thrived on until they've been systematically dislocated from our system. | ||
| You're taking those people that are actually standing up, people like myself, and you're making them just go, eh, it's not worth it. | ||
| Why would I do that? | ||
| Why would I put myself out there? | ||
| Why would I make myself even more of a target when even the people that agree with me and are fighting with me are just ankle-biting, petulant little scumbags like yourself, Gold? | ||
| Do you realize what this... | ||
| Your problem is that he's whining? | ||
| What effect this has on people who are actually putting ourselves out there and actually suffering the slings and arrows from the mainstream media as we are pushing back against their satanic agenda and recognizing it fully? | ||
| What would you rather? | ||
| What would you rather I do, Gold? | ||
| What would you rather I do than talk about this on a daily basis? | ||
| How did he get this, Jeff? | ||
| It's just, then you do it, Gold. | ||
| You go out and do it. | ||
| You go out and put yourself on TV. | ||
| You go out and put yourself on the radio and say the things that you want to say and see how well it works out for you. | ||
| Until the meantime, keep your criticisms to yourself. | ||
| Go jump in a lake. | ||
| This caller doesn't want Harrison to blast the ADL or criticize Israel. | ||
| He wants him to condemn all Jewish people. | ||
| There's no way Harrison doesn't understand this, and you see this response because this caller is too direct about what he believes, and he doesn't sound like an idiot or a raving lunatic, so it's not easy to just run circles around him. | ||
| On top of that, Harrison has no idea what Galatians 4 says, so he can't even engage with that part of the call. | ||
| So he gets accused of not attacking Jewish people as a whole, and he says that he's mean to the ADL in Israel, which is meant to pivot the conversation away from the uncomfortable territory where he would lose this Nazi purity test, which for some reason he doesn't want to do. | ||
| Yeah, his allegiances are very strange. | ||
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It is. | |
| Well, I would say it's... | ||
| Unclear, but it's pretty clear. | ||
| A lot of this response Harrison is giving boils down to, I don't want to do this job anymore because people complain that I don't hate Jews enough when I feel like I'm doing a great job of it, which is a little strange. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Harrison also gives up the game a little bit at the end there when he says, if you think I don't go far enough, why don't you start a show and do it, see how well it goes for you? | ||
| This is kind of an admission that Harrison knows that his existence in the marketplace relies on him going pretty far, but not past a certain line where he would no longer be palatable to potential new listeners. | ||
| He's telling this guy, essentially, I assure you, we're pushing this as far as we can while still staying profitable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Whoops! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it really is like, that is your criticism. | ||
| That is what you say to somebody, you're not going far enough, and then they say, I would like to have money and still be as far as I can go, so here's where I am. | ||
| I have made that deal. | ||
| And then they go, well, that deal corrupts you, and you go, oh yeah, that is exactly what it does. | ||
| Why don't you go be pure about your Nazism and see how many radio stations you can be on? | ||
| Meanwhile, fucking Harrison Smith's show's not on any radio stations. | ||
| I find it always fascinating whenever someone makes a perfect argument against their own existence to someone else. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And indicts themselves. | ||
| Yeah, total! | ||
| Like, you fool! | ||
| Especially the more abusive they are about it, and the more full of themselves they are about destroying their reason for existence. | ||
| The better it is, yeah. | ||
| So we got one last big piece of news. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| That Alex Jones, the man himself, the headliner as it were, we've seen the riffraff open micers, the feature act, the backbench, and now we get the headliner, Alex Jones himself. | ||
| He was on Russian television. | ||
| I don't know if you were aware of this. | ||
| I still maintain as much as I can a complete unawareness of what's going on in Infoware. | ||
| Well, that's great, because this interview is nuts. | ||
| Okay, so Alex went on RT. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, after the 2016 election, Alex famously went on with Alexander Dugan, and he called him the greatest example of an American person, and then Alex cried about how wonderful Russia thinks he is. | ||
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Woof. | |
| That was all fun. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But now, he's on with another propagandist dude named Vladimir Solovyov, and he's... | ||
| I don't know if this is still on, but in 2018, he started hosting a show called Moscow, Russia, Putin, where they would go over what Putin did that week, all the great accomplishments he'd done. | ||
| Oh, man! | ||
| It's a little comically... | ||
| That is comically sycophantic, yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's hard to believe. | ||
| So he has a show, and he is interviewing Alex on it. | ||
| Now, if people want to enjoy this... | ||
| There is a video that you can find of stuff that was edited out, and it's him screaming at his staff. | ||
| Very much like Alex. | ||
| Very much like, push the button! | ||
| I've got Alex here, I can't hear him! | ||
| Oh, it's his staff? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my god, that's amazing! | ||
| And you can see Alex smiling. | ||
| That is so funny. | ||
| I wanted to play some of that because it is pretty funny, but it's in Russian. | ||
| So I can't really... | ||
| Imagine screaming in Russian and you go, ah, yeah. | ||
| You can find that video and their subtitles. | ||
| And there is something enjoyable about that. | ||
| But there are points where it's kind of clear that this is jumping a topic. | ||
| And that's usually places where things were cut out pretty substantially. | ||
| So anyway, this dude is a giant old Russian propagandist dude. | ||
| And here is where we begin with him talking to Alex. | ||
| Very good morning to you. | ||
| It's definitely a pleasure. | ||
| It's good to be here while we're still alive and not dying in nuclear war. | ||
| So real quick, Russian time is evening for Alex, so he might be half in the bottle. | ||
| Yeah, it does seem like we're already on nuclear war. | ||
| But we're also a low-register Alex drunk, if he's drunk. | ||
| It is a groggy drunk. | ||
| Hard day's night drunk. | ||
| He does not seem... | ||
| Fully there. | ||
| But also, this dude swears a lot, which is a little fun. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| If I have to hear some kind of a shithead bigot Russian propagandist dude, I at least want him to say fuck a few times. | ||
| Yeah, I like a good... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he can swear like an adult, not like Alex. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| So you might hear a little of that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, you know, it's one of those things. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| It can be a lost... | ||
| Nuclear war. | ||
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Right. | |
| And first, whatever discussion, but who cares? | ||
| Basically, we live in hell. | ||
| So finally, our job is to try to stop it coming on earth for everyone. | ||
| But you're doing it from your side. | ||
| You're telling people what you believe in. | ||
| And you're blamed for that. | ||
| You've been cancelled from whatever platform there is in the United States. | ||
| And they still cannot close you. | ||
| So what kind of force is in you? | ||
| What kind of guts do you have that they can't do shit with you? | ||
| Well, I love our republic, and I'm proud to be an American, but I have to be honest, I live in an occupied globalist country with corporate oligarchs like Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates in control, and they are arresting everybody, they have dissolved our borders, they are annihilating us, and so America, major polls show 80-plus percent are against war with Russia. | ||
| We know that Jordan Soros and others started the war nine years ago. | ||
| And the average American understands this is your back door. | ||
| This is your homeland. | ||
| This is where Russia started, was in Ukraine. | ||
| The average American is not with NATO. | ||
| We are not with the globalists. | ||
| Our Pentagon is captured. | ||
| Our country is captured. | ||
| And yes, I'm facing death, assassination. | ||
| My crew is. | ||
| They're trying to put my co-host in prison next week. | ||
| But I cannot back down at this point. | ||
| And I'm not saying the Russians are perfect. | ||
| Nobody's perfect. | ||
| But we stand against nuclear war and we stand against the Nazis that have launched the attacks in Ukraine. | ||
| And so we have to tell the truth about what's happening, even if it gets us killed, because the globalists are insane mentally degenerates. | ||
| But Joe Biden doesn't even know who he is. | ||
| And they are so used to wielding American power of the country they've hijacked, like hijackers that take over an airplane, that they're flying. | ||
| The American airplane into the building, like 9-11, that is Russia. | ||
| And so I'm trying to stop that. | ||
| I'm a loyal American. | ||
| That was a bit convoluted. | ||
| Yeah, that was a difficult metaphor to land, if you will. | ||
| They're hijacking, you know, like hijackers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a simile. | ||
| And then 9-11... | ||
| What is Alex... | ||
| What's his stated position on 9-11 now? | ||
| I was wondering the exact same thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How do we deal with 9-11 now? | ||
| I can't deal with it through Alex because I don't actually know what he believes. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| I know that he doesn't believe the official story. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But exactly which version of the conspiracy stuff he believes has changed so many times that I have no idea. | ||
| We've been through a lot of different... | ||
| Obvious reasons that this happened, and smoking gun prove everything, and then somehow are different the next time we hear about it. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex, he likes Russia a bit. | ||
| And the average American, he speaks for them. | ||
| I think one of my problems here, and is going to be this for the rest of our time here, growing up... | ||
| Because of the way we grow up in culture in America, the Russians were always the bad guy. | ||
| You know, that accent. | ||
| Especially to Alex. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That specific accent, though, is the bad guy in spy movies. | ||
| That type of shit, you know? | ||
| In wrestling. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so, to hear the same, like... | ||
| You will die. | ||
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Accent, be used to be like, he was cancelled. | |
| Like, that's that, no! | ||
| The stakes are not, the stakes are too low for that! | ||
| I am worried about these people with the woke mind virus. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Like, no, we can't do that. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| It's so trivial. | ||
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James Bond, you have been canceled for the last time! | |
| Like, what are we doing? | ||
| It's like an alien coming to Earth and it's like, I have been shadow banned. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Yeah, the stakes are low. | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
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Come on now. | |
| Yeah, so nuclear war is hot on the mind. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| But there might be a plus side to it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I just want the Russian people to know that just like you had oligarchs and you were occupied for a few years. | ||
| After the fall of the Soviet Union, but you kicked them out. | ||
| We are struggling in a death battle to remove the controllers of our country, and we just hope in that process that we don't all kill each other. | ||
| But I understand the position Russia's in, and so, you know, I'm very sad that we have nuclear war, and, you know, half the Russians die, but you already had that happen in World War II, or at least a third of your people die. | ||
| So if there is nuclear war, at least it'll kill the globalists so we can all die together. | ||
| I hope we can stop that. | ||
| But I have a little solace that maybe God's going to work through us all. | ||
| We all just kill each other. | ||
| But we're so close to it. | ||
| I have to be very honest with you. | ||
| That's an interesting card. | ||
| Alex, you will. | ||
| And I apologize. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Might be part of where he's yelling. | ||
| And a long time past. | ||
| That was like back... | ||
| 20 plus years ago. | ||
| Yeah, we had a little dropout there. | ||
| He's talking about how he lived in Alabama at one point for a period in his life. | ||
| That's part of what was dropped there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So just for context for later. | ||
| Oh, so that's why his English is very... | ||
| It's pretty good. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, like I said, he swore fantastically earlier. | ||
| It was smooth. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| See, Alex is a worm. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Oh, yeah, you had oligarch problems for a couple years. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Also, Alex doesn't even believe what he's saying. | ||
| I know. | ||
| The globalists have armored redoubts and underground bases where they're gonna survive nuclear wars. | ||
| He knows that. | ||
| What the fuck is he talking about? | ||
| Listen, I am just... | ||
| I just don't like the constant... | ||
| The number of people who live or die within the set future is the... | ||
| Like, applause-o-meter. | ||
| It's a mood ring. | ||
| It is a mood ring, you know? | ||
| Like, yeah, okay. | ||
| Only 100 people are going to tell, oh, he's feeling really good today. | ||
| Everybody's dead! | ||
| Oh, man, we're in for one of those Alex dudes. | ||
| I'm going home early. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Like, it's nuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, one of the things you should keep track of, and you get a little bit of the sense of it here already, is, like, Alex's vibe really kind of boils down to, like, please don't nuke me, specifically. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| I am one of the good Americans, and I speak for many other good Americans. | ||
| Please don't nuke me. | ||
| It does feel like he's negotiating a treaty behind America's back. | ||
| Yeah, he's violating the Logan Act. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So this guy, when he was in Alabama, loved Rush Limbaugh, and so he brings that up. | ||
| 20 plus years ago and at this time I loved listening to Rush Limbo show. | ||
| Unfortunately he passed away but you remind me the best years of Rush Limbo with your tempo, with your energy and with your willingness to tell the truth. | ||
| Rush Limbo number five. | ||
| And unfortunately it looks like if 20 years ago Rush Limbo was this star. | ||
| Nowadays they're so scared of you being this star. | ||
| That they're trying to change whatever is around you. | ||
| But how come? | ||
| What happened with states? | ||
| You're saying that your country has been hijacked. | ||
| But how come that with great people of the United States, you allowed your country to be hijacked? | ||
| How come that people that are good Christians, that are hard-working people, great nation, how come that people like Blinken, Joe Biden, those guys, they're not patriots? | ||
| They don't love the American Republic. | ||
| It looks like they're much more interested in putting whatever taxpayer dollars they can for the benefit of the Ukraine to launder money through the Ukraine back to their families. | ||
| But they're not patriots of the United States. | ||
| What's ever happening in Europe is not for the interest of the United States. | ||
| And there's only one person who's trying to tell that, Trump. | ||
| And now they're killing Trump! | ||
| They're just crucifying Trump. | ||
| What happened with your country? | ||
| How did you allow them to hijack your country? | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
| It was guilt. | ||
| America's not perfect. | ||
| I cannot hear Alex. | ||
| Guys? | ||
| Can you hear me now? | ||
| There's a problem. | ||
| I cannot hear Alex. | ||
| So this is where some of it really falls apart, and this is where some of the yelling in Russian happens. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so that's cut out of this version that we have here. | ||
| Disappointing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is really giving this guy a wide berth, letting him talk. | ||
| He's being very respectful. | ||
| That's the Russian accent that I remember from my childhood. | ||
| That is somebody who's... | ||
| Captured, you know, and they're getting interrogated, and then the guy who's going in there to kind of brainwash him shows up. | ||
| That's totally it. | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
| In movies, for sure, but in real life, I find his accent pretty calming. | ||
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No, I enjoy it. | |
| No, again, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| You know, making fun of the limbo. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| You know, it's a little bit of low-hanging fruit, but overall, I do find his voice pleasant. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| You're tortured by the other guy, but this guy comes in and he's like, this isn't for you. | ||
| You're being tortured because they're treating you like a real patriot, not the government. | ||
| You know, like, that's the guy. | ||
| I see, I see. | ||
| I missed the point you were making. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| So the audio problem resolves, and Alex gets back to his idea about guilt. | ||
| Guys? | ||
| Can you hear me now? | ||
| There's a problem I cannot hear, Alex. | ||
| Yeah, finally. | ||
| I can hear you. | ||
| Can you hear me? | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Nowadays, yeah. | ||
| Probably CIA was trying to do something not to allow us to continue our conversation, but we succeeded. | ||
| So go ahead. | ||
| Congrats. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Well, I'm not trying to be dramatic, but I literally got followed from my house to here. | ||
| I'll be followed home tonight. | ||
| I know it's the morning in Russia. | ||
| By your security. | ||
| And I get we all laugh about it. | ||
| I do, too. | ||
| But this is very serious. | ||
| Well, what happened is Americans have big hearts. | ||
| And so by big corporate investment in media and in universities and in culture, we were taught we were bad. | ||
| And then we were taken over by globalist, woke, leftist, transgenderism, LGBTQP, Satan brainwashing. | ||
| And we've been under massive bullying, massive censorship. | ||
| The woke bullies. | ||
| So I'm going to be totally clear about this. | ||
| Alex's answer to that question of what happened to make the United States bad is civil rights. | ||
| He can dress it up in whatever grandiose bullshit language he wants, but his answer is that the U.S. is worse because civil rights organizations bullied straight white Christian Yeah. | ||
| The part about guilt is him saying that history shouldn't be taught, or if it is, things like slavery should be taught as a positive or neutral thing. | ||
| If you're going to teach about the history of slavery in America, the thesis of your lesson needs to be that other people had slaves too, so we weren't really wrong to do it. | ||
| This is Alex's ideology. | ||
| He comes from a fucking nutbag John Birch Society family where he was inundated with books written by anti-communist weirdos that attacked civil rights by presenting the idea of black people being able to eat at the same restaurant as white people as a critical step in turning the U.S. into a godless communist hellhole. | ||
| And Alex has never grown up. | ||
| He's never seriously examined those beliefs because why the fuck would he? | ||
| He got on public access TV pretty young, and really quickly his dad paid for him to get a radio show. | ||
| After that, he got discovered by a shady, scammy gold salesman who used Alex as the primary advertisement for his precious metal sales. | ||
| That whole time, he had success, comfort, and relative celebrity, so there's literally no reason to change anything. | ||
| Interrogating your beliefs to see if they're actually correct is a liability for someone like Alex. | ||
| You're going to lose money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| By the time the gold sales sugar daddy situation went away, Alex was already 41 years old and he had his next big thing in the supplements. | ||
| It was already in motion. | ||
| There's never been a point in his life where he's had any reason to doubt himself. | ||
| And the reality that doubting himself and his ideas that could cost him millions of dollars. | ||
| No one needs someone with this particular skill set of lying very loudly for a long period of time in any other media space. | ||
| The left doesn't need it. | ||
| The mainstream media doesn't need it. | ||
| The only people that caters to is exactly his audience. | ||
| Without this, he's essentially unemployable. | ||
| And he knows that. | ||
| So keep your head down and follow the path that looks lucrative. | ||
| And that's what he's done. | ||
| He's never had to... | ||
| You know, this is exactly the opposite of what I mean, but I just remembered that quote from Blade Trinity. | ||
| He was born perfect, and just like a great white shark, he's never had to evolve. | ||
| Right, right, right, I recall. | ||
| Quote about Dracula. | ||
| Alex is like that, but the opposite. | ||
| No, I'm thinking this because I apologize for bringing up tennis, but Carlos Alcaraz is... | ||
| When you watch Djokovic or Federer or those guys play against the next generation, you see that they are not having fun because they've been beaten over and over and over and over again. | ||
| They've just been beaten so much. | ||
| But Carlos grew up, and he was the best at tennis, and then he just kept being the best at tennis, and now he's the best at tennis. | ||
| He's so happy! | ||
| He's smiling all the time, you know? | ||
| He's never faced... | ||
| That reality of just constant shit being poured upon you. | ||
| And that may come in years. | ||
| Yeah, and Alex has got something of that, like, if you create a lane for this person and everything kind of just hits right at the right time. | ||
| And you've never really had an existential challenge outside of things that you've done to yourself, basically. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You brought up Next Generation, so I want to apologize for forgetting about Geordi LaForge when we were talking about Star Trek. | ||
| Talking about Star Trek, yeah. | ||
| And also, you blew it, and I went along with you. | ||
| Whoopi was not in Deep Space Nine. | ||
| She was in Next Generation. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I am terrible. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex is ashamed of America. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I'm very ashamed that we've gotten to this point, and that's why... | ||
| Whether it's British TV or Japanese TV or Russian television, I go on to explain this is not the real American. | ||
| You know, you talk about how have I survived. | ||
| They saw me in... | ||
| 2016, it was 40 million viewers. | ||
| So many viewers. | ||
| So important to let us know. | ||
| So that big exhale is reflective of the tech problems that have been cut out of this. | ||
| And for a period of time, he's looking at his phone and a tablet because he then yells, why do I have to watch our show on the stream to hear Alex? | ||
| And he looks very distracted. | ||
| So that's a reason to go watch that video. | ||
| It's an enjoyable experience. | ||
| And man, it starts a little slow with some feeling out, but when this breaks open, it gets nuts. | ||
| And I really think that this guy is trying to lure Alex to come to Russia. | ||
| Great. | ||
| It's time. | ||
| It's the only way to keep his money. | ||
| I think for nefarious purposes. | ||
| Well, there's that too. | ||
| So, like I said, there's tech issues and they kind of loom in the background of a lot of this. | ||
| But I love Tucker Carlson because now 100 million viewers per show versus 5 million on Fox. | ||
| So, even though they're trying to destroy me, I can take major satisfaction that RFK Jr. and Russell Brand and Joe Rogan... | ||
| There's a major awakening happening. | ||
| Sorry, boss. | ||
| Sometimes I have to raise hell. | ||
| No, no, my crew's good, too. | ||
| But I get mad at them. | ||
| Go ahead, go ahead. | ||
| And softly trying to... | ||
| Fix things. | ||
| And usually that works. | ||
| No, I get it. | ||
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Usually that works. | |
| No, my crew's the same. | ||
| They're laughing. | ||
| No, but it's good that you're translating. | ||
| It's hard to do. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there is a bit of yelling that's cut out there. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But there was a part of me when I was watching this, Alex is so giddy when he's yelling at the crew. | ||
| And it's like, obviously, I know that Alex is somebody who likes to abuse underlings, and he exerts power in an abusive fashion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a small part of me that wonders if the tech problems were fake. | ||
| And it was a way of endearing himself to Alex. | ||
| Alex sees himself in this breakdown that this guy is having, obviously. | ||
| And it's deeply unprofessional, the way he's acting, in the same way it's deeply unprofessional when Alex screams at his employees. | ||
| He doesn't storm off, though. | ||
| I'll give him that. | ||
| You would have to watch more of his show. | ||
| He might. | ||
| No, I mean, yeah, he might do this all the time, or he might not. | ||
| Oh, I thought you meant he, the Russian guy, would have to watch Alex's show to know that he does this a lot. | ||
| Right, no, you would, yeah, he might watch Alex's show, but in order for you to know what he was doing, then you would have to watch more of his show. | ||
| If you understand that Alex is a narcissist, he would love to see himself in a mirror. | ||
| He would love to see himself in you. | ||
| And if you behave in ways that are similar to him, He'll be like, this guy's great. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| But that's a little bit conspiratorial and paranoid of me. | ||
| It was just a thought that crossed my mind as I was watching this. | ||
| Sure, I understand. | ||
| But we're talking about the land of psyops, my man. | ||
| That's how it goes. | ||
| Maybe they had a team of psychologists working on Alex being like, how do we get this guy? | ||
| This is a dude who hosted a show, talked about Putin's achievements once a week. | ||
| This is not somebody who has a straight-up career. | ||
| So anyway, there's some more tech problems of a different variety. | ||
| Well, Alex, you know, basically it's amazing. | ||
| I used to live in the United States of America, and at that time, that was the most free country in the world, where people respected freedom of speech. | ||
| At this time, there were a whole bunch of good families, good Christians. | ||
| Every Sunday, they were going to church, and they believed that God loves America, and they believed that their job is to bring good to the world and freedom to people. | ||
| Thirty years later, in the United States of America, you cannot say shit. | ||
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If you say something that you believe in, you have a problem with that. | |
| If you do something that they don't like, they're going to kill you. | ||
| They're going to destroy you. | ||
| They're going to destroy your reputation. | ||
| They will do whatever they can to silent you. | ||
| And now you have Joe Biden, the guy who is crooked. | ||
| The guy whose family is benefiting from the blood in Europe. | ||
| That's, man, that's amazing. | ||
| I really feel sorry for you. | ||
| And now they want us to fight one another for Nazis and those funny guys with red shirts. | ||
| Who the hell are they? | ||
| Ukrainian supporters and... | ||
| This is fascinating. | ||
| This is marching on the streets of the United States of America. | ||
| Yikes! | ||
| Is this a pirate signal? | ||
| Like, what is happening? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Are they in the Matrix trying to hack into the feed at every second? | ||
| When he said, like, Biden is profiting from the blood in Ukraine and then the music started again, I thought it was like a morning zoo sound effect. | ||
| I thought the same fucking thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, I was like, oh, is this like a fun thing? | ||
| And then it just keeps getting... | ||
| War terrible. | ||
| I was watching this and I'm like, should have cut out more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sloppy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Alex is just like so endearing himself and being like, oh, I know Russia is so great. | ||
| So great. | ||
| You guys only had oligarchs for a few years. | ||
| Everything is so good. | ||
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Totally fine. | |
| So cool. | ||
| You kicked the globalists out. | ||
| You definitely don't have oligarchs now. | ||
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None. | |
| Definitely don't have oligarchs now. | ||
| The situation is desperate. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I've held on because I have millions of supporters, but it's absolutely hell. | ||
| They have just, I don't get into it, but just imagine it's been hellish. | ||
| And it's only God's kept me alive, but things are coming to a head. | ||
| That's why I'm here telling the Russian people, we know you're not expansionist. | ||
| We know you're not attacking us. | ||
| The Average American Poll Show, Eddie Persaud, don't war with you. | ||
| And we are sorry our country's been hijacked and it's being used as a battering ram. | ||
| And we know Russia's not perfect either. | ||
| I've never been to Russia. | ||
| No one is perfect. | ||
| No one's perfect, man. | ||
| So yeah, they're not expansionists except for the expanding and encroaching on their neighbors. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| They're not attacking us, which I guess is fine. | ||
| And then 80% of people might not want war, but that is not reflective of 80% of the population supporting Russia's actions. | ||
| Yeah, you know, the way these people, these two are talking about, and it's kind of the way we all talk about it, and it's infecting us in a really terrible way. | ||
| But Russia's not expansionist. | ||
| Putin is stealing more shit. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Nobody who lives there is like, man, I want Kiev for my own because I live in Moscow. | ||
| We make that point a lot. | ||
| That there is that differentiation between the country and the government. | ||
| They don't want that. | ||
| Alex and this guy do not want the differentiation. | ||
| But I think they do, sort of. | ||
| I think they kind of do, because Alex is saying our government isn't taken over by the globalists, so America the government, evil. | ||
| America the people, good. | ||
| Russia the people, good. | ||
| Putin the government, good. | ||
| So that's kind of the lineup. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I'm just frustrated. | ||
| By this idea, because it is so much like, oh, what's wrong with the American people? | ||
| And what's wrong with all of this stuff? | ||
| And it's like, man, most of us, almost all of us, are just fucking getting through the day. | ||
| And these people are starting wars and shit. | ||
| Nobody did! | ||
| No, we're not around! | ||
| But at least you're not like Alex and, like, constantly obsessing about nuclear war and how maybe it's a good thing. | ||
| Totally! | ||
| I mean, it is just so insane that we're stuck in this concept of, like, oh, the United States, like, most of us hate everything about this. | ||
| All of this. | ||
| Yeah, or at least desire a better way. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is absurd. | ||
| So if you hate that stuff, wait for this next one. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| This Russian guy, this Vladimir character. | ||
| Not a fan of gay people. | ||
| That's not surprising. | ||
| We're not pro-Russia. | ||
| We're not pro-America. | ||
| We're pro-God. | ||
| And we're pro-anti-I love that. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| But for that, they have to believe in God. | ||
| They don't believe in God. | ||
| How can they believe in God and be for LGBTQ plus minus divide on something? | ||
| LGBT is shit. | ||
| It has nothing to do with God. | ||
| But now that they're saying that the new God is pervert. | ||
| That's not what we believe in. | ||
| Well, that's it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| So that's a bit harsh. | ||
| A little blunt. | ||
| A little gross. | ||
| Yeah, so LGBTQ is pervert. | ||
| And then Alex chimes in from the back. | ||
| Pedophile! | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it is illegal in Russia. | ||
| Well... | ||
| No, I mean, yeah, fine. | ||
| I mean, what did you think he was going to think? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, I'm offended by what he's saying, but it's not like I'm surprised. | ||
| No, no, I guess it's more the, like, bluntness of it, and then Alex is like, hell yeah, man. | ||
| I guess it's not really surprising for Alex to have that position either, except for that it's just like, there's such an erosion of his pretending to be okay with gay people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then, you know. | ||
| Yeah, the reason... | ||
| It's just sad. | ||
| You know, it's like, the reason that it's so awful is because it's a portent of, you know, how fake the support is. | ||
| Of any variety of civil rights. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, if the Ayatollah is like, hey, fucking, we kill gay people here, you go, yeah, you guys do that. | ||
| That's all you. | ||
| You really shouldn't. | ||
| I'd rather you didn't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, then if the Ayatollah had a radio host, you would expect those positions to be mirrored. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So Alex, he just admires Putin. | ||
| He's a good dude. | ||
| He kicked out the globalists. | ||
| And that's why I'm saying this is not me. | ||
| This is not America. | ||
| We are hijacked. | ||
| And I know Russia has the Soros Foundations. | ||
| You're under the exact same attack. | ||
| You've just been better at fighting it off. | ||
| And so a lot of Americans admire Russia. | ||
| And admire you and admire Putin because you've been able to fight this off. | ||
| And so that's where we are. | ||
| And I know they'll come after me for this. | ||
| So be it, because that's just the way it is. | ||
| But, you know, I just hope we can stop nuclear war. | ||
| And I hope that we can come together and promote a global freedom, free market Christian society. | ||
| And then you've got beautiful resources. | ||
| We've got amazing resources. | ||
| I mean, it's so smart for us to work together. | ||
|
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Exactly. | |
| And have a big space. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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And work together. | |
| Have a beautiful... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's smarter for neither of us to exist. | ||
| Hey, you know what? | ||
| Why don't we fuck these globalists? | ||
| Let's have a global Christian society. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| We don't want to live under the same one-world government. | ||
| We want to live under the same one-world theocratic government. | ||
| That prefers our side. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| A little bit obvious there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So look, man, we got... | ||
| When you think of popular shows... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The most popular shows. | ||
| Johnny Carson. | ||
| No. | ||
| Although at a time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Russell Brand. | ||
| What? | ||
| Tucker. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So we're doing that. | ||
| We're doing that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, I would suggest that Alex should really check into some of the new hot folks on TikTok and YouTube and see how their numbers are so much bigger than any of these other fucking political weirdos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you see some of these people, it's like, oh my god. | ||
| 100 million views? | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| Who is this? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It is always fun whenever I find out that there's an entire different species of human living in a completely different world. | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
| There's trillions of you out there? | ||
| It's like someone in a tri-corner hat blowing on a piece of bologna dangling in front of their face. | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| 200 million views. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| That's what the people do these days. | ||
| They left me behind and I didn't want to come with them. | ||
| That's the reality. | ||
| I would say that the vast majority of just various true crime channels on YouTube have more views than Alex. | ||
| But anyway, all the popular shows, they love Russia. | ||
| I want Russians to know the most popular shows, as I said. | ||
| Not just mine. | ||
| All the popular shows. | ||
| Are anti-war and are pro-freedom. | ||
| They're pro-America. | ||
| They're pro-Russia. | ||
| They're pro-human. | ||
| And I want you to know that the American people do not want this. | ||
| But our political class is losing. | ||
| They're dying. | ||
| They're falling apart. | ||
| And they admit their plan is not just a new COVID lockdown. | ||
| Their plan is not just imploded borders. | ||
| Their plan is accelerated war with Russia. | ||
| I am very pissed off. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And my children, I got four of them, don't deserve to die. | ||
| And if the Russians were doing something to me, I'd be ready to go to war. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like Ukraine. | ||
| Yeah, you got it. | ||
| I mean, the Russians are not... | ||
| I've studied the geopolitics. | ||
| They accuse me of being a Russian agent. | ||
| I've never been to Russia. | ||
| I have nothing to do with Russia. | ||
| I think Alex just compared Russia to Jesus. | ||
| I find no fault. | ||
| And I think he was quoting Pontius Pilate. | ||
| Well, you know, we've got a lot of Bible today. | ||
| Might as well get that one in there, too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So, look, I mean, obviously we don't want nukes and stuff. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| This is trite. | ||
| But, like, okay, so there's a transactional relationship that's going on here, despite whatever is actually being said and the... | ||
| Clunky conversation that's being had. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And the transaction is Alex comes on and provides the image that America loves Russia and that like Russia is great. | ||
| They're not expansionist and everybody knows it. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| The whole world. | ||
| And then this guy fucking just... | ||
| Blows smoke up Alex's ass and treats him like he is the greatest American ever. | ||
| Essentially the exact same transaction that went on in the 2016 interview with Alexander Dugan. | ||
| It's the same. | ||
| It's a honeypot. | ||
| And here's the payoff for Alex. | ||
| I'm an agent of life. | ||
| An agent of freedom. | ||
| An agent of having a future. | ||
| And I will not let these globalists that have hijacked our country, they're the enemy, point at Russia. | ||
| And say, oh, they did this. | ||
| Russia didn't open our border. | ||
| Russia didn't ship in fentanyl. | ||
| Russia doesn't engage in pedophilia. | ||
| Russia isn't pushing World War III. | ||
| Russia isn't promoting drag queen pedophile time. | ||
| And so all I'm saying is, I don't know about the Russians. | ||
| But the Russians didn't do this. | ||
| The globalists that hijacked my country did it. | ||
| And I'm not going to go to nuclear war with the Russians so they can stay in power. | ||
| It's real simple. | ||
| Okay, there is voice of American people. | ||
| Alec Jones. | ||
| There is voice of American people. | ||
| He's the voice of the American people! | ||
|
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Oh, man. | |
| It's just so easy. | ||
|
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It is! | |
| It's just so easy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I mean, it's pretty transparent when you're watching it. | ||
| And you get the sense that both of them kind of know it, too, almost. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If not consciously, he knows. | ||
| The Russian dude knows for sure. | ||
| Oh, yeah, 100%. | ||
| But Alex, it's an open question of how aware he is of the game he's involved in at the moment. | ||
| I think there's plenty of column A and column B. I know you're flattering me. | ||
| You know what I like? | ||
| Getting flattered. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like those people who flirt incessantly and never intend to hook up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| It's just fun. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Live your life. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| But I'm confused by it. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Anyway, this now that the payoff has come and he has declared the voice of the American people. | ||
| It's time to extend an invitation. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And I'm strong enough, by the grace of God and my supporters, to be holding up like a lighthouse in a storm. | ||
| But I don't plan I'll be here tomorrow. | ||
| I mean, they are coming down on us right now. | ||
| It's like they're coming down on you. | ||
| And so, God help us. | ||
| You know, I feel like nowadays Russia is becoming the arch, the noise arch, like the only place where people like you can go, not because they love Russia, but because it's probably the last safe heaven where people with conservative views, people that believe in God, can live freely. | ||
| Because it's amazing what they've done with this world. | ||
| They're basically trying to ruin human race as such. | ||
| They're trying to say man that he's no longer man. | ||
| Woman that she's no longer woman. | ||
| Transgender. | ||
| What the fuck is transgender? | ||
| How can they be transgender and how they can have kids? | ||
| If they don't want to have kids, they don't want to... | ||
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It's an assault. | |
| It's an assault. | ||
| It's an assault on our basic humanity. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| Say whatever you want about the Russians. | ||
| I tried to study the anthropology, the sociology. | ||
| At least the Russians aren't rolling over to this. | ||
| So you have him introducing this premise that, hey, Russia's the only place where someone like you can live freely. | ||
|
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And so this has been introduced into the conversation. | |
| Alex is not necessarily bit or anything, but it's there. | ||
| It's in his head now. | ||
| I truly believe that I should get a free kick of some sort. | ||
| There's a penalty that has to be incurred. | ||
| Because the most jingoistic people that I grew up with are now only welcome in... | ||
| Russia. | ||
| It's just unacceptable. | ||
| Well, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's like five yards, I get a free kick, something. | ||
| Well, Alex's entire worldview from childhood has been built on this anti-communist extremism. | ||
| And I mean, China obviously is a factor in that too, but Soviet Union, Russia were the other main target of that. | ||
| And yeah, now, no, not so much. | ||
| It's frustrating. | ||
| I feel like everybody should stop. | ||
| You know, when a penalty happens, there's a stoppage of play. | ||
| I feel like we should all stop playing. | ||
| Until we figure this all out. | ||
| Everybody, the most jingoistic people now think they're okay in Russia. | ||
| We gotta figure something out. | ||
| Something's up here. | ||
| Something's up! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So these guys are real homophobic, real transphobic, real shitheads. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you gotta admit, they're hitting it off. | ||
| They are. | ||
| And maybe those things are related. | ||
| They are enjoying themselves. | ||
| This isn't a game. | ||
| And that's why our president is saying, sorry guys, but there won't be gay marriages in Russia. | ||
| We don't care what you do in your bedroom, but we know what family is. | ||
| They should be father and mother, not parent number one and parent number two. | ||
| We won't allow that. | ||
| That's not in our culture. | ||
| You can do whatever you want with your culture, but that's not our culture. | ||
| And that's what I know about America. | ||
| I remember what America is. | ||
| Let me tell you this. | ||
| We heard 10 years ago, just give us gay marriage. | ||
| And I'm the same way. | ||
| I'm like, whatever you do, I don't hate you. | ||
| And then it's like, give us your children. | ||
| Let us chop your children's testicles off. | ||
| Let us puberty block them. | ||
| I'm telling you, it's a devil cult. | ||
| It's globalist. | ||
| It's MI6. | ||
| It's MI6. | ||
|
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Absolutely. | |
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| That's not about politics. | ||
| That's about the existence of humanity as such. | ||
| That's not the war between Russia and America. | ||
| It's the war between God and Satanists. | ||
| I want to say this. | ||
| I want to say this. | ||
| Good stuff. | ||
| I'm an American. | ||
|
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Cool. | |
| And I don't want nuclear war. | ||
| And I love Russia. | ||
| I love Japan. | ||
| I love China. | ||
| I love Mexico. | ||
| I love everybody. | ||
| But I am a human first before God. | ||
| And I cannot go against humanity and the family. | ||
| And that's why I have to come here and say, I'm embarrassed. | ||
| I have to admit, my country's captured, and they're persecuting us for fighting them. | ||
| We don't know how long we can hold on. | ||
| It's really bad. | ||
| And that's why I'm really concerned, because this is real. | ||
| People need to know, you already have people dying in this war. | ||
| You have to understand, it's intense. | ||
| This is not a game. | ||
| This is just something on television. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Literally on television. | ||
| Alex is two for two in tearing up with interviews with Russian propagandists. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Calling him the voice of American people. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| What a dork. | ||
| So, um, look. | ||
| These guys suck. | ||
| I mean, there's no other word for what just happened. | ||
| What just happened is shit. | ||
| These are things that we've heard before, too. | ||
| It's just this kind of conversation is... | ||
| Far more frequent, the idea that all rights being afforded to gay couples is a path and a chipping away towards Satanism. | ||
| If I acknowledge us as both human, then my entire worldview falls apart. | ||
| So it's either... | ||
| It's either essentially I kill you or I change. | ||
| And I am such a piece of shit, I'm going to kill you instead of go, it's fine. | ||
| And these are two people who represent slightly different stages down that path towards being like, ah, fine, kill him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, 100%. | ||
| And that's very, very scary as a conversation to be had in public. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But this guy really wants Alex to come to Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just feel like, again, I mean, I feel like we understand free speech, but, like, the telling another human being that they're not a human being is the beginning of all of our problem. | ||
| There's something about that. | ||
| Maybe not all of our problems, but a whole lot of them. | ||
| A whole fuckton of them begins whenever it's like, yes, I recognize myself as human and you not. | ||
| And that begins with words. | ||
| True. | ||
| And there's something that can be done about that that isn't just like, eh, let them call anybody whatever the fuck they want. | ||
| I think what you're saying, and I somewhat agree, is we need a more mature understanding of speech. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe not necessarily, like, laws that govern what you can and can't say, but a very serious re-examination as people what we are fine with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And what should make you immediately, like, not to be taken seriously. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what marks people as, like, no, you're a shithead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, that concept, you know, that idea of, like, we need to... | ||
| Completely abolish the concept of sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never. | ||
| Or we need to add a shit ton of like... | ||
| But words can set into motion a series of events so large and so uncontrollable that it affects not just you, but everyone around you! | ||
| The problem is that the utility of sticks and stones may break my bones is to make children feel better. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And children are not mature enough to understand the addendum that you added. | ||
| And then they grow up and they don't become adults. | ||
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They just continue to say sticks and stones. | |
| They say it in presidential debates. | ||
| Well, they're children. | ||
| But Alex probably needs to go to Russia. | ||
| And what they do is, because I've never been to Russia, I've read books about Russia, read history, looks amazing, I want to go there sometime, but I'm not a Russophile. | ||
| I'm not a Russophobe. | ||
| But it's so insulting for eight years since Trump was running and then won seven years ago, or six years ago. | ||
| To literally be told I'm commanded by the Russians and I'm given orders by the Russians, but here I am. | ||
| I'm like, well, okay. | ||
| If I'm supposedly run by these people, I better go ahead and find out who they are. | ||
| No, I'm run by honor and truth and justice and saving my country. | ||
| But I do now. | ||
| Actually, I'll be honest with you. | ||
| I want to go to Russia. | ||
| I want to meet the Russians. | ||
| I want to find out why my enemies hate them so much. | ||
|
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Alex, my studio is your studio. | |
| Anytime, my house is your house. | ||
| If you want to come to Russia with all your family, be my guest. | ||
| You can stay as long as you want. | ||
| Whatever you want, you'll have it. | ||
| I appreciate that, but you understand my point. | ||
| I'm not like, I'm just an American, and I'm like promoting not having open borders, not promoting pedophilia, promoting freedom, and I'm told I'm run by Russians. | ||
| Well, you start wondering, who is this that runs me? | ||
| You start, like, wondering who are... | ||
| So I'm asking, why do they hate me and hate you so much? | ||
| Because we believe in God. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| This guy's gotta be thinking Alex is a fucking idiot. | ||
| I mean, so stupid. | ||
| He's gotta be thinking that Alex is the dumbest person he's ever talked to. | ||
| I would assume so. | ||
| Like, that's crazy. | ||
| Alright, if Alex goes to Russia, the documentary we make, call it Citizen 14 Words. | ||
|
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Ah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, that's alright. | ||
| The guy who's a sort of state-connected media figure who's saying, you can come live at my house for as long as you want. | ||
| Whatever you want, you will have it. | ||
| My studio is your studio. | ||
| That's the kind of thing that Alex would find suspicious coming from, let's say, somebody who works for the Rockefellers. | ||
| That is a comically luring kind of offer. | ||
| I mean, bananas. | ||
| Truly, to be a person who is constantly claiming that there's a secret reason for everything, to then take this, a man who sounds like the movie villains from your childhood, and just be like, man, straight shooter, you. | ||
| Those movies weren't real. | ||
| I know they weren't real. | ||
| Alex somehow doesn't know they weren't real and is still this guy. | ||
| Now, to be clear with the thing that I'm suggesting, or what I am looking at this interview as... | ||
| I don't necessarily think there's some kind of a state plan to flip Alex or something like that. | ||
| But I think that this guy is savvy enough to understand that there is a lot of value in Alex disseminating the talking points that he disseminates on behalf of Moscow, Russia, Putin, the weekly Putin praise show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's pretty obvious. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Anyway. | ||
| Very suspect. | ||
| I don't even know how to tell you about this clip, but I will say that it involves Alex saying that Trump wants to make babies with Russia. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which is strange. | ||
| That is strange, but okay. | ||
| They are coming after him, they're coming after me, they're coming after Trump, because Trump, let's talk about Trump. | ||
| I know Trump well. | ||
| Trump is a very transactional person. | ||
| Which is cool. | ||
| So he looks at Russia. | ||
| Three times the size of the U.S., the most wealthy country in the world resource-wise, and he sees a big, beautiful thing. | ||
| And he's like, oh, I'm going to deal with these people. | ||
| Like when he went to talk to a North Korean leader, he said, you could put beach houses here and hotels and casinos. | ||
| I mean, he just looks at something transactional. | ||
| And says, this is a big, giant, rich country. | ||
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That's horrific. | |
| He sees it as a woman. | ||
| I mean, that's how Trump operates. | ||
| He sees Russia as a gorgeous, beautiful woman he wants to be with. | ||
| He's like, we're not going to fight these people. | ||
| Let's get in business. | ||
| And the CIA goes, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You're not getting in business with her. | ||
| We're going to kill her and eat her. | ||
| And so they're cannibals. | ||
| Trump wants to have children with Russia. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The globalists want to eat Russia, and they want to eat me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They want to eat me! | ||
| Right, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Trump wants to fuck St. Petersburg or something? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I suppose then we're just getting into the anatomy of cities meetings in Russia. | ||
| What civic unit do you think? | ||
| What is the smallest civic unit that is capable of gestation? | ||
| A Hamlet? | ||
| Can a Hamlet get pregnant? | ||
| You know, I think a small unit is what it takes to get gestation. | ||
| Nah, man. | ||
| I think you need to be... | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| The big unit? | ||
| Randy... | ||
| Randy Johnson. | ||
| Johnson. | ||
| Yeah, Randy Johnson. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| I couldn't come up with the most generic last name. | ||
| Couldn't come up with fucking Johnson. | ||
| Yeah, that's probably like eight or nine on the most common last names. | ||
| That clip, though, I mean, there's a lot of nonsense in there. | ||
| Like, pound for pound, pretty solid. | ||
| A lot of Trump wants to fuck Russia, wants to make babies with it. | ||
| He saw North Korea as being like a lot of places to exploit here. | ||
| Make a hotel over there. | ||
| Yeah, that one's crazy. | ||
| That one's crazy, but I think here's what it is that I'm going to pitch to you that is the amplifier. | ||
| Out of nowhere, we're eating people. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, once we added eating people, now everything else in that clip is also amplified because, sure, he wants to make babies with Russia, but maybe people want to eat those babies. | ||
| And we can't trust Trump completely. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| He creates a vaccine! | ||
| And I think we really have to take a little moment to reflect on how eating someone is the opposite of making a baby with them. | ||
| Because it's addition versus subtraction, you know? | ||
| It is perhaps the polar opposite of making a baby with somebody is eating them. | ||
| Because if you kill someone... | ||
| Because it's also ingestion! | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But also, if you kill somebody, their body is still there. | ||
| If you eat them, their body, it goes from one to zero. | ||
| Right, and not just that, but if you make a baby with someone, they expel it from them, whereas you are ingesting the human. | ||
| We have accidentally stumbled onto something. | ||
| I don't know why that this turns out to be the poles that we discover, you know? | ||
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Well, it's probably because this episode is stupid. | |
| Well, that's fair. | ||
| So we have one last clip here, and it's a little bit, of course, of the dismount. | ||
| Alex, of course, once again invokes Tucker and has some parting words for this guy who is clearly playing some games with him. | ||
| Because we're men. | ||
| Because we're men, and because we're fathers, and because we're sons, and because we understand that there is higher responsibility than being loyal to those motherfuckers. | ||
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And that responsibility is with God. | |
| Right. | ||
| Well, that's right. | ||
| And that's why I came on your show and threw down the gauntlet. | ||
| They're going to come after me so hard after this. | ||
| Like you said, Tucker Carlson's a dead man walking. | ||
| I talked to him two days ago. | ||
| He knows it. | ||
| He's going all in. | ||
| So, I'm all in. | ||
| You're all in for humanity and for humanity and fatherhood and motherhood. | ||
| And we just got to say, hey, listen, globalists, we're calling your bluff, man. | ||
| Hey, you globalists. | ||
| And you know, they blow my ass away next week or indict me next week and they're trying, it'll make us bigger. | ||
| Because I'm not going to cry when they do it. | ||
| But we got to be ready to do it because this is it, folks. | ||
| Everything you are, everything you ever were, if you don't stand up now, you're done. | ||
|
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Done. | |
| Nice. | ||
| The perfect knight in shining armor, Alex Jones, fighting for God. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And for what he believes in. | ||
|
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Alex, it was a pleasure, and I'm honored. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| You can find us at the verboten site, infowars.com. | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| A shining knight. | ||
| The perfect knight in shining armor, fighting for what he believes. | ||
| It was an honor, Alex. | ||
| Anybody who seriously and sincerely says it was an honor, Alex, is an idiot or is fucking with him. | ||
| There is nobody who would be honored to talk to that ding-dong. | ||
| You know, this one really hammers home what Sophie was talking about, where they want you to think they're telling you the truth. | ||
| That was such a... | ||
| Everything about that... | ||
| You don't believe you're doing this for God. | ||
| Why am I stopping and being like, why would you believe you're doing this for God? | ||
| No, you don't believe that. | ||
| It streams credulity to even imagine that between the two of them, they believe what the other is saying. | ||
| It's a fascinating exercise in deceit and lying and no trust. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Because there's the game of Alex lying to him and believing that he knows that Alex is playing a character, right? | ||
| And then there's him lying to Alex, but he knows that Alex doesn't know what he's doing. | ||
| And then there's the shared reality that the two of them are trying to create out of both of these falsehoods. | ||
| I think there's a possibility that he thinks that Alex might be aware of a little, but definitely not the full scope. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's one full awareness and one side has like, eh. | ||
| Alex knows he's full of shit. | ||
| The other guy knows he's full of shit. | ||
| I'm going to say this. | ||
| I'm going to say this. | ||
| I believe, and I'm going to base this on purely the feeling I have right now. | ||
| I believe that there is a certain tone of voice that you can detect when you're getting one over on someone. | ||
| And it's that last clip. | ||
| There's a tone. | ||
| There's a sound. | ||
| I think there's a frequency that no matter what, if you're getting one over on someone, you make that sound. | ||
| And when you call Alex fucking Jones a perfect knight in shining armor, you're getting one over on somebody. | ||
| That's not the act of a legit person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there is a certain irony, Jordan, we should point out. | ||
| I don't know if our voices are going to sound a little bit different, but we were mocking the tech difficulties that they had on this episode, and then in the middle of it, our recorder stopped working. | ||
| Yeah, it was bonkers. | ||
| So the gods played a joke on us, and I appreciate it. | ||
| Well played. | ||
| Well played, universe. | ||
| You know, for me, we were recording during the U.S. Open, and it was like the moment we were so close to the dismount. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I was trying so hard to accommodate and let you get some of that U.S. Open in, and no. | ||
| Hey, it is what it is. | ||
| It's payback for making fun of their tech issues. | ||
| I think it probably is. | ||
| We had hubris. | ||
| Oh, we earned it. | ||
| Hubris, as Alex would pronounce it. | ||
| I will say that though we deserve it, we distinguish ourselves by not screaming at someone for some reason. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, we will be back for another episode shortly. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we are on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| And I'm on Instagram at library underscore fight and posting fun pictures of our studio. | ||
| So if you want to see what the studio looks like, all the wall art and what have you. | ||
| And every now and again, maybe some seltzer that I'm drinking. | ||
| That's over there. | ||
| You fucking around with Instagram too, aren't you? | ||
| Oh, I am. | ||
| I'm on the... | ||
| I'm posting... | ||
| Do you know what I'm doing? | ||
| Knowledge underscore fight, and I have turned it into unlikely animal friendships. | ||
| I think you only have that because I got rid of the account. | ||
| I had that handle. | ||
| Totally. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| You didn't get rid of it. | ||
| We were just using it together. | ||
| And then you stopped using it when you made library underscore fight. | ||
| So I did. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, at any point in time, you could just log into the other account and change the password. | ||
| I don't even know the password, I swear to you. | ||
| Well, check that out for Animal Friendship. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| Ah, damn it. | ||
| I was trying to work that into a Mario level, but I went two different level directions, and I couldn't commit. | ||
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And now here comes the sex robots. | |
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |