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July 21, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
01:26:35
#830: July 16, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan record their first episode in the new studio.  Unfortunately, it's a present day episode where Alex is trying to defend RFK Jr, and in the process engages in some intensely racist commentary about Chinese people.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
16:58
d
dan friesen
45:15
j
jordan holmes
20:16
Appearances
Clips
k
kamala harris
00:11
p
pastor david manning
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding me.
andy in kansas
I love your world.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.
knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
unidentified
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
unidentified
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot, Jordan, is this is the maiden voyage, the first time we are recording in It's true!
So, who knows what...
Fucking nonsense is gonna happen.
You may notice, I have no idea actually how it's gonna come out, but I live fairly close to a train, and so you may hear periodically the train going by.
jordan holmes
You may hear some authentic Chicago L sounds.
dan friesen
Right.
I am going to explore in the future more soundproofing and stuff, but it's a process.
jordan holmes
Hey, it is what it is.
dan friesen
In terms of turning the studio.
jordan holmes
If you don't like the sound of the L, you haven't lived in Chicago.
That's the truth of it.
unidentified
My man.
jordan holmes
There's something comforting almost now.
unidentified
It's true.
jordan holmes
It is true.
dan friesen
Rocks me to sleep.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
So, yeah, I got to...
Moved.
Took a bit.
Still not quite done.
There's a lot of mess left at the old place that I need to figure out one way or another to resolve.
jordan holmes
Just close the door and never open it again.
dan friesen
Emotionally, I want to.
I want to.
jordan holmes
I've walked out on more than two places exactly like that.
I left Connecticut and I just got in my car and left.
I didn't take any clothes or anything with me.
I just left.
dan friesen
I have been on the wrong end of that.
Like, with a roommate who just took off and left me holding the bag.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
I was alone.
I wasn't going to do that to somebody else.
dan friesen
But you're still doing it to, I mean, fuck landlords and all, but still someone has to deal with your shit.
But, like, you know, what you're describing is, like, I have in my head, honestly, a feeling of, like, is that even possible?
Can a person do that?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Then you go to jail.
That's legitimately how my brain...
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no.
I mean, it was in that moment of just like, oh, they're not gonna come get me, are they?
dan friesen
No, I guess there's probably no consequences except for, like, maybe there's a bill that you haven't paid somewhere.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come get me.
dan friesen
Damn.
Damn.
So yeah, it was decently smooth, except for that.
That's still hanging over my head.
Sure.
I wanted to do an episode on Wednesday, honestly.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Or for Wednesday.
Because I had told you, you know, like, you know, I'm moving over the weekend.
I can get things set up.
We can be ready to go.
Turn it around.
It'll be good.
I have all kinds of stuff downloaded, you know, for, like, old Alex episodes and stuff.
I have content we can cover for sure.
And then as soon as I sat down to, like, get to work on one of them, I realized, like, oh, I need the internet.
I don't just need the internet to upload episodes.
I need to look things up and find documents and stuff.
jordan holmes
Right, which is tough to do on your phone.
Right.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So I got kind of screwed over there, but my heart was wanting.
To get back to work.
I want to get back to business.
So I'm glad to be here.
That's my bright spot, is getting back in the wagon, getting on the saddle.
jordan holmes
Well, it's great.
It's easily, I think, my favorite place that you've lived in so far.
dan friesen
That's nice to hear.
Thank you.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not like a huge...
Competition.
dan friesen
Some places have been better than others.
jordan holmes
Some places have been better than others, but this place is nice.
dan friesen
I think it's been a gradual move upward over the time that we've been doing the show.
jordan holmes
It kind of has, yes.
dan friesen
Except for, like, the first place that I lived at was when we were in my bedroom.
Yes.
When I lived with a couple other people.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that was a mess.
jordan holmes
That was a mess.
dan friesen
But right after that, there were a couple places that I lived briefly and broke my lease at.
And those places were also a mess.
jordan holmes
That place, the place with the sound issues.
Oh, boy.
We'll never go back there.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You know, it's funny.
There's something almost nostalgic about thinking about when we started in your old place, both of us just like...
Chain smoking.
It was terrible.
But your memory makes it so much better than it really is.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is nuts to think.
Sitting there smoking cigarettes, drinking wine.
But we're returning to that a little bit in as much as there's a carpet in here.
And there was a carpet in that room.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That's true.
Finally, full circle.
It's all happening.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So yeah, I have high hopes for getting this studio space put together.
I have a couple things up on the wall that people have sent us, and I have quite a bit more left to put up.
So there's a decorating process that is still ahead of me a little bit.
I'm excited for that.
So what about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is twofold.
My first bright spot is The Righteous Gemstones is back.
dan friesen
Sure.
Timbalt's.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course you know Timbalt.
Nobody.
Danny McBride.
Fuck Danny McBride.
dan friesen
Timbalt's!
Randy Snuts!
jordan holmes
No, but there was, in the most recent episode, a character is in a fight and he's completely naked.
And they don't shy back.
all over the place, you know, like, and it's an extended fight scene.
And what's great about it.
dan friesen
It's like bull rat.
jordan holmes
I mean, kind of.
What's great about it is that it makes you, it reminds you how stupid it is men fight, People are stupid.
Like, if you see a naked man with his little penis flopping around, like, all aggressive and shit, it just reminds you of an ape!
You just remember that we're weird apes!
We are the weird ones!
dan friesen
That's not actually what I remember.
If I see a man running around with his penis flopping around, I run with that man!
jordan holmes
Who's that?
dan friesen
That's Dave Attell.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
That was Dave Attell.
dan friesen
Do you see a man running down the street with his penis?
You run with that man because there's some scary shit coming the other way.
That was his closer.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Oh, my God.
That was a long time ago.
dan friesen
Dave Attell.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yeah, long time.
Long time.
So yeah, that's fun.
I've not watched that show, but I do like the people involved.
And I feel like I would like it, but I just haven't cracked into it.
jordan holmes
It's weird.
It's part of the...
I think there's like five or six shows that are essentially...
Three adult siblings, two men, one woman.
dan friesen
Yeah, the generational tension kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and then that's like a reflection of how many people of our generation aren't having children, and so they can relate to this childless adult world, you know?
And I think it's interesting, but also there's like 40 of them.
dan friesen
True.
Actually, before I saw a commercial for it, which was fairly recently, I had slotted it in.
I think I might have thought it was the same as Succession.
But it's a comedy.
But I didn't know that.
I didn't realize that.
Is it?
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Oh, I didn't know that.
jordan holmes
I thought it was.
I'm fairly sure it was.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
People laughed.
You laughed.
dan friesen
Now, I have no idea.
Succession may very well be a comedy.
I haven't watched that either.
But I've heard people talk about it in ways that made me think it was more of a drama.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, you know.
So what's your second bright spot?
jordan holmes
My second bright spot, Dan, is we have received a lot of feedback.
We have officially sold out the Glasgow show.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And so we have decided to add another show in London.
unidentified
Whoa!
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, I love the show in London.
It's on the 26th of September, not some other day.
dan friesen
9 to 6. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26th of September, if you're in the UK.
jordan holmes
And yeah, the tickets are going to go live on Monday morning.
dan friesen
Yes.
We'll have a link to that in the next episode.
jordan holmes
We're not going to do the thing where we surprise everybody.
dan friesen
Well, you know, I thought it would be less of an issue.
It felt like the pool of people who might want to come to one of our shows would be lesser in the UK.
But it turns out we've got listeners around.
jordan holmes
Seems all right.
dan friesen
So that's very exciting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think...
I have some ideas of what we could cover.
jordan holmes
Is there a Jack the Ripper episode of the Infowars?
dan friesen
In some ways, you could make an argument that Alex may be spiritually Jack the Ripper.
jordan holmes
The reincarnation of Jack the Ripper.
dan friesen
And, as we all know, we are our ancestors.
jordan holmes
That is true!
dan friesen
But he's from Wales.
He's from Wales.
We know that.
So if we did a show in Wales...
It could be any episode.
jordan holmes
It could be any episode.
dan friesen
One thing I actually thought about, because I had an inclination.
I had a thought that we might do a London show.
And so I was poking around trying to think of like, wait, Bilderberg was in London.
Alex went to London for Bilderberg.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And so I went and I was watching those episodes at David Knight's hosting the whole time.
Because it's before Alex had a lot of multimedia capability.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Couldn't remotely broadcast and stuff.
So, yeah.
So he was in London, and there's no episode to do about it.
jordan holmes
What a...
Brutal.
Of all the things.
dan friesen
There's an irony.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we're going to be in the present day.
We're going to be talking about July 16th.
That was Sunday's episode.
And there's a reason for that.
And that is that I was in the middle of moving, and I got a little...
Look at my phone.
I was looking at Twitter.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I see that RFK has said that COVID is designed so the Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews don't get it.
jordan holmes
I do believe I heard him say it was a race-specific bioweapon.
dan friesen
And I thought to myself, I wonder what Alex has to say about this.
And he does not disappoint.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And so we're going to be talking about his coverage of that.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Which is distasteful.
Very racist.
There's going to be quite a bit of gross shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on that, but first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Zed, the totally not 27 kobolds stacked under a trench coat normal person.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, St. Gerlame, the loser little titty baby.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, come to Glasgow for your live show, cowards.
Jordan needs punishment for continually calling Scottish people Brits.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I fucking told you, man.
You're going to die.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you.
dan friesen
Someone's going to fuck you up.
jordan holmes
You have to vote yourself out.
dan friesen
Someone's going to fuck you up, and I'm not going to help.
You brought this on yourself.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Next, hey, Dan.
Yes, you, Dan Friesen.
My name is Rulila.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Rulila.
No.
jordan holmes
I think it's Rulilla.
unidentified
Rulilla.
dan friesen
Could be.
Rhymes with sarsaparilla.
jordan holmes
I might not, though.
That would be...
dan friesen
Next, Tom W. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to...
Hey, Heather, it's me, your star, the honky-tonk policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
I'm going to make a note to myself.
Now that we're in this new studio, I'm going to make a new Technocrat drop.
And I'm going to write a parody song of The Devil Went Down to Georgia about us going to Scotland.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So I'm going to do those two things.
jordan holmes
All right, you got work.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Way to put more on your plate.
dan friesen
So we start here.
Alex has got a huge broadcast ahead of him.
And of course, it's because of RFK.
alex jones
Well, every broadcast, as I say, is important.
Particular ones are even more important.
And as the world quickens with all the insanity, And evil really rises, but good to challenge it.
As Newtonian physics and the Bible tells us, it's true.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
For every action is an opposite and equal reaction.
Each successive week and month and year gets more intense.
This really is a quickening or a cascade of many singularities towards the great singularity, the return of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.
Well...
RFK Jr. has come out and talked about something we talked about two and a half years ago.
Major scientific institutions in Europe, the United States, India, Australia, and Japan, of all places, they have a lot of great scientists there, looked at the COVID-19 virus and said it's been made in a lab.
I mean, they said three and a half years ago the Indians first scanned it.
It's a prestigious biomedical university where they have a multi-billion dollar gene editing reader computer.
And they said, this is man-made.
This is five viruses.
We know who made it.
And this is what it's been designed to do.
And then they got billions of research funding threatened.
dan friesen
So that's all a bunch of nonsense.
Alex is just remembering some of his old narratives, rehashing things.
But...
When I heard this beginning of the show, I realized that I had no idea if it was actually news that RFK thinks COVID was designed in a lab.
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
That could be the first time he'd ever said it, or it could be something he said all the time.
jordan holmes
Could be a thousand, yeah.
dan friesen
I would believe either.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And that is a testament to how little it matters that RFK said that.
Anybody who has any idea who RFK Jr. is probably already thinks this is something he believes, or at very least, it's an idea that he's susceptible to, given all of his other completely insane conspiracy beliefs.
This isn't news at all, really.
It's what you should expect from people like RFK Jr.
unidentified
He's an idiot and a blower.
dan friesen
hard, and he has been for decades.
Everyone should be up to speed on him by this point.
There's no excuses.
Possibly the thing that's more interesting in the news about RFK is that he said, quote, quote, there's an argument that it's ethnically targeted.
COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people.
The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.
This is kind of an idea that isn't really new to our ears since Alex has been saying shit like this for years, which is why it amused me that the New York Times headline about this was, quote, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. airs bigoted new COVID conspiracy theory about Jews and Chinese.
This isn't a new theory.
It's just being said by a different person.
Yeah.
And here's the point.
I say this to the media.
It's far past time to stop covering RFK Jr.
You can't handle it, and it's going to be Trump all over again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're pathetic.
dan friesen
You're fucking this up already?
It's a mess.
Any viability RFK Jr. may have as a candidate is solely the result of people in the media deciding they want to cover him to point out the obviously horrific and offensive things he says, and it's going to backfire.
Backfired last time?
Gonna happen again.
jordan holmes
No, it did everything they wanted it to.
They got all the clicks that they wanted, and society was fine at the end of it.
dan friesen
You can't do this again.
Can't do it.
Trump's gonna be the GOP candidate.
You can't do this.
jordan holmes
They learned their lesson, I'm sure.
dan friesen
Case in point, why this is no good, the Times thinks that this is a new conspiracy theory about COVID, but it's not.
It's just one that's spread by people they're accustomed to.
Yeah.
the media just needs to realize that even though he's pretending to run for president kennedy belongs in that same basket ignore his dumb ass yeah yeah I mean, why?
jordan holmes
The only reason to talk to him, to talk about him, is entertainment.
That's it.
So that's what people are doing.
dan friesen
Or as like a public service, as a like, you know, this guy is saying this and it's wrong.
But most people won't hear that he's saying it if you don't point out that he's saying it's wrong.
More people are going to see the New York Times.
Probably saying this shit.
No one would have seen that video where he's saying this stuff.
If it hadn't been covered by a hundred media outlets.
jordan holmes
Here's what we are doing, again.
And it's the same thing that we always do.
And I can't handle any more, Des, that, like, okay, we're going to send out this thing.
This guy said something offensive.
We say it's offensive.
And then everybody goes, well, because you said it's offensive, I'm offended about you.
And then the thing goes, and then the next day, we do it all the fuck over again.
I'm tired.
dan friesen
And I think that there's a measure of social responsibility that is...
Is, you know, pointing out when people say things that are incorrect and dangerous.
And, you know, I think there's a value to that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that, you know, there's a robust debate that can be had about what's the extent that you should go, like, sort of guide your behaviors by not amplifying negative voices in a way that's kind of neutral.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Or plays into their benefit.
And I say a lot of that kind of goes out the window when it's a novelty candidate who's running for president.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because the danger and the stakes there are like...
They're ridiculous.
And we lived through this.
jordan holmes
I mean, I know.
It's like, if you can't learn your lesson, then all of the things that I've ever defended you for are out the window.
Fuck you.
If you can't learn your lesson, then fuck all of you.
I'm not doing it anymore.
I'm just not.
dan friesen
I don't want to be exhausted again.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's already over.
We've already exhausted ourselves.
dan friesen
So, of course, Alex definitely agrees with the things that RFK was saying.
alex jones
And then it took about a year for the scientists to then look at it more closely, and they said it's designed to hit black people and white people.
It's called a race-specific weapon.
Now, RFK Jr. came out and said this a few days ago at a big dinner conference in New York.
And it became a huge firestorm because he just said what the report said, that it spares Asians and Ashkenazi Jews.
Because Ashkenazi Jews, somewhere back in their lineage.
I'm sorry?
Okay.
dan friesen
Look, based on where we're going, I'm going to leave that alone.
Because there's just, oh my god, such a mess on this episode.
This is all very dumb.
But I would be curious if Alex would like to name those unspecified scientists.
He says that they got together and decided to announce that COVID is race-specific.
I feel like that's the same thing with him saying India announced from their prestigious universe.
Be specific, jerk.
jordan holmes
I mean, the simplest issue that I am having, right, is once you start saying, oh, it affects specifically white people and black people and not blank and blank.
Now we're in like, are you telling me?
That they have the capability of...
Like, because it's not like that.
That's not a thing.
dan friesen
No, but that is what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
I mean, yes, but it's like, you can't be...
dan friesen
I know.
jordan holmes
From Egypt.
unidentified
It's dumb.
jordan holmes
Like, it's insane!
dan friesen
Yes, it's very dumb.
jordan holmes
It's very stupid.
dan friesen
And it'll get worse, so save your theatrics.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, RFK Jr. was actually called on this claim, and in response, he angrily tweeted out a study he said backed him up.
However, the study did no such thing.
Here's how the Times put it.
Quote, Kennedy also linked to a scientific paper that he said showed the structure of the COVID-19 virus made Black and Caucasian people more susceptible and, quote, ethnic Chinese, Finns, and Ashkenazi Jews were less receptive.
But the study he linked to, published in July 2020, early in the pandemic and before effective treatments had emerged, made no reference to Chinese people as less receptive to the virus, nor did it speak of targeting the virus.
It's said one particular receptor for the virus appeared not to be present in Amish and Ashkenazi Jews.
What happened here is that Kennedy got caught talking shit, talking that good conspiracy shit that riles up his normal audience.
And then when he was called on it, he tried to whip out a study to silence the criticism.
That works really well when you're dealing with the normal audience that he's accustomed to, full of conspiracy minded people with anti-vax zealotry ideas.
Just being able to pull something out that has the appearance of supporting your claim is enough.
Yeah.
unidentified
But that's not enough when the people you're trying to.
dan friesen
That's why these folks hate fact-checkers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the people that you normally please with that, you're giving them something that they're not going to look into because they already like you.
They just appreciate it if you come with a little bit more than nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah, and we're going to see Alex engage in a ton of this exact same behavior as RFK's angry response tweet as this episode goes along.
Oh, boy.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
Look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Be cool.
Alright, I'm going to be very quiet.
jordan holmes
I'm going to be very quiet, and you picked an incredibly racist episode that makes me want to scream all the time.
That works.
That's wise.
dan friesen
So, here we go.
alex jones
Just like an indigenous person from Mexico or Guatemala, if you test their genetics, it's Chinese.
That's where they came from thousands and thousands of years ago.
It's a genetic, complete match, Chinese.
They don't really teach that in school, though, but that's a mainline thing in biosciences.
Spaniards are Germanic and Gaulish until they got invaded and held for several hundred years by the North African Moors, who were a mix of African and Arabic.
So that's why you see the change in the Spanish there.
So, ethnic studies are very interesting.
Not in the leftist ethnic studies, but actually the historical ethnic studies and then bio-weapons.
dan friesen
So, I contest or challenge some of his specifics.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But the idea that people have a lot of mixed heritage and, like, over time, over generations, over centuries, people have, you know...
Went from countries to other countries.
There's been flow of populations.
And so there are not discrete and very separate group A, group B, group C. And essentially what Alex is saying, if you just ignore the specifics, is exactly why race-specific bioweapons are stupid.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
He has just sort of laid that out quite...
Succinctly.
jordan holmes
I mean, no.
dan friesen
Well, not succinctly.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Overwrought.
But, like, just adding, like, okay, so it's the Ashkenazi Jews, the Finns, and then the Chinese, and you're like, wait, wait, wait.
The Finns?
Is Finland a race of people?
unidentified
Yep.
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
That's kind of the thing.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, he's got some things to defend himself with about this race-specific bioweapon idea, and they don't work.
alex jones
Well, as Dick Cheney wrote in 2000 in Rebuilding America's Defenses for the Project of the American Century document, got wide circulation, look it up for yourself.
He said the U.S. government must legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons.
So, RFK Jr. talked about how this is a...
He just stated what the papers say.
And now we're hearing he's an anti-Semite.
Absolutely preposterous.
Of course, he supports the state of Israel, just like Trump, whole nine yards.
Some would say he's just too pro-Israel.
And I make that point, just to point out that he is definitely not against the Jews.
But it's just a fact.
dan friesen
So we've talked about this a hundred times, but to reiterate, Dick Cheney didn't write Rebuilding America's Defenses.
He isn't even listed as a participant in the project that culminated in that document's writing.
Fun fact though, Scooter Libby was a participant, so maybe Alex should ask why Trump pardoned him while he was in office.
In the document, they write in the future, quote, advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.
This wasn't saying that it would be a political useful tool for us to use and that we should do it.
This was part of a list of potential threats that they were arguing that the U.S. defense is needed to be up to facing.
Alex is lying about this document because it makes his job easier.
We've been over this a whole bunch.
Also...
It's not something Alex would really ever grasp, but he's being a bit anti-Semitic himself here by equating support for Jewish people with support for Israel.
Like, they're the exact same thing.
They are not the same thing.
And defending someone against charges of being anti-Semitic by saying they support Israel doesn't really make sense fully.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no.
Nope.
dan friesen
But that's where his mind goes.
That's the only thing he's got.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is a strange kind of mixture of nationalism and racism.
But, like, what's fun about it is that it does kind of reveal that both of those things are all in our heads.
You know, like, if you're just...
Oh, yeah, they're Arabic.
dan friesen
Nations and races are societal constructs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Saudi Arabia is also Arabic.
And it's like, you're just saying words.
unidentified
That apply to people that don't actually apply to people.
dan friesen
So, in this clip, Alex says some words, and he fucks up.
See if you can catch the fuck up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All right, we've got massive news tonight.
R.O.K.
Jr. has talked about the elephant in the room, the race-specific bioweapon nature of COVID-19, designed to target blacks and whites.
It'll still kill Asians.
And Ashkenazi Jews, but not at anywhere at the same rate.
According to major studies, he quoted that.
He just pointed out, it looks like the Chi-Coms and the globalists were developing a specific race weapon.
And, wow, you're not supposed to talk about that, even though you can look up Dick Cheney rebuilding America's defenses.
dan friesen
Kind of slipped up a little bit and implied that the globalists are the Jews.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't have done that.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think he...
Can't not really.
I mean, the whole ideology is essentially built largely on, you know, the code.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, let me ask you this question.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
If you can make a weapon that targets both black people and white people as a race-specific bioweapon, does that not suggest that there is no difference between black people and white people, whereas there is a difference between black people, white people, and Jews and Asians?
dan friesen
Chinese people.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Isn't that an interesting question?
dan friesen
I think that would be a follow-up.
You could ask Alex if you wanted to get more confused.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you can't be racist against black people.
We're both in the same boat, right?
dan friesen
I think Alex would find a way around that.
unidentified
I think so, too.
dan friesen
I think he'd just be like, yeah, but...
jordan holmes
Well, there is the but.
I didn't expect that.
dan friesen
So, there's a lot of globalists out there, certainly.
Even if you, you know, take it away from Alex's clear use of code that he fucked up and kind of, you know, made it a little meh meh in that last clip.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But here's a new one on you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Here's a new globalist.
I didn't realize this guy was running shit.
alex jones
And if you don't believe in globalist population agenda, then we have something interesting for you.
These are bibliographed, documented, vetted quotes.
Many of these I was reading when I was...
18, 19 years old and didn't believe it, so I went to the library.
They didn't have it, so I went to the UT library that did have it or had them send off for it.
I actually got the books where they said these things.
How they're going to set up world government and how they're going to kill your family.
That's from UNESCO Courier.
That's the UNESCO, United Nations Educational Cultural Organization's official newspaper.
Are American burdens each?
One American burdens the earth much more than 20 Bangladeschians.
This is a terrible thing to say in order to stabilize world population.
We must eliminate 3,000 people per day.
It's a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it.
unidentified
Yep, Jacques Cousteau.
dan friesen
Arch-globalist.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I didn't realize that the ocean conservationist was setting the agenda for the globalists.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, I get it.
You spend so much of your time underneath the ocean.
You come back up, you see people acting like this, and you're like, I want to go back under the ocean.
Fuck these people.
I get it.
dan friesen
Everything's better down where it's wetter under the sea.
jordan holmes
It's just true.
It's just true.
I get it.
Jacques Cousteau, way ahead of his time.
dan friesen
So for once, Alex has an accurate quote, or a fairly accurate one.
Sure.
unidentified
It's out of context and it's a little mixed up, but it is kind of close to something Cousteau actually did say.
dan friesen
Nice.
unidentified
There's actually two quotes here from one interview jammed together, which they were both in response to different questions, so they don't belong together.
dan friesen
The part about Americans burdening the planet more than 20 people from Babylonia.
I'm just going to leave that alone because the other part is more interesting.
I'm going to read out Alex's quote, and then I'm going to read you Cousteau's quote, and I want you to pay attention to very specific changes in wording that have been made that affect how you would interpret these words.
So here's Alex's version.
Quote, This is a terrible thing to say.
In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people a day.
It's a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it.
Here's what Cousteau actually said.
Quote, It's terrible to have to say this.
World population must be stabilized, and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day.
This is so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn't even say it.
But the general situation in which we are involved is lamentable.
There are two major changes that Alex's quote makes that change the point being made.
The first is distilling Cousteau's sentence down to, in order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people a day.
By doing that, you're able to make the sentiment appear far more prescriptive than it is meant to be.
Alex's version sounds much more like a statement of what needs to be done and what Cousteau wants to be done than the actual spoken words.
jordan holmes
In order to save the human race, we must eliminate 350,000 people a day!
Yeah, gotcha.
dan friesen
The second change is inaccurately paraphrasing Cousteau down to, it's horrible to say this, but just as bad not to say it.
The underlying meaning of this is that Cousteau is advocating for killing hundreds of thousands of people a day, and that this is the thing we all know needs to be done.
It's the elephant in the room, but no one's saying it.
Cousteau's like the M&M of exterminating people.
He has the balls to say it in front of y'all, and he doesn't have to be false and sugarcoat.
Oh, boy.
He's saying that this is a solution to a real problem that is, quote, The real world problem is severe and in order to drive home the scale of the issue Cousteau uses this imagery but includes the caveat essentially saying that this is not actually a solution.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is probably not making these alterations to the quote himself, and he definitely isn't getting this directly from the UNESCO interview, because that's where I got the real version from.
He probably just saw a meme somewhere, like, someone reworded this quote to make it more useful for dumb-dumb conspiracy theorists to use for their bullshit, and he thought, eh, who cares about the real source?
I'm just a lazy-ass dumb-dumb.
Yeah, I mean, Cousteau...
I mean, he's lazy and doesn't care.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because Cousteau is essentially saying, like, You got us to a point so bad that a reasonable person would have to stop and say, we'd have to do this.
And that's unthinkable.
So, fuck you.
Now we gotta solve the problem because we can't do that, obviously.
dan friesen
The unthinkable solution is essentially making the abstract...
You know, scale of the problem.
Something that you can put into your mind.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then the real solution is, you know, making efforts in places where you can curb overpopulation.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not by killing people, but by providing reproductive health care to folks.
Helping people have more stable lives.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, he could have gone with something less potentially sinister like...
You could stack all of our problems all the way up to the moon to give you an idea of how big they are.
dan friesen
If you read that interview, I don't think you'd...
He was in no mood to say things nicely.
He was being pretty blunt.
jordan holmes
He's going back under the ocean.
dan friesen
He's like, shit's bad.
jordan holmes
Shit's bad, dude.
dan friesen
See you later.
jordan holmes
I've been there.
dan friesen
I got an oxygen tank.
jordan holmes
I'm going.
dan friesen
I built a cave under the water where there's air.
jordan holmes
That's what we should all do.
dan friesen
Ah, Cousteau.
jordan holmes
Yeah, smart.
dan friesen
So Alex realizes that RFK is basically him.
unidentified
Yes, yeah.
dan friesen
So, cool.
jordan holmes
Great, great.
alex jones
And RFK's editing in, man.
He's Alex Jones 2.0.
RFK Jr., climate change is being used to control us through fear and is not dealing with real environmental problems, but is a giant Ponzi scheme by central banks across the world to bring in total surveillance and control and end industrial societies and consolidate power and wealth in the hands of a few.
Yep, yep, totally true.
So, I want to say he's totally defected over to our side?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
alex jones
And you wouldn't be saying stuff like that unless you had really defected, because the globalists never pose like us and then say that much.
They never go that far.
They're more of a Mike Pence.
I love the Lord.
Everything's fine.
Take your microphone.
unidentified
Great impression.
dan friesen
So if the globalists know that you know that they never go that far, and that's how you can kind of tell a real patriot from somebody who's coming in to play games, then they would say that far.
They would go that far in order to blend in better with the patriots, because they know what you know is a litmus test.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no, because they wouldn't do that.
dan friesen
But they would.
jordan holmes
Well, but they would.
But they can't.
dan friesen
Yes, they can.
jordan holmes
They don't have it in them because they've got a contract with the devil.
dan friesen
This is another fine print thing.
jordan holmes
There's always fine print.
Here's the one thing.
Here's the one thing that we should listen to Alex Jones about.
When he says somebody is like him.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I think he knows.
If Alex says, this is Alex Jones 2.0.
Believe him.
dan friesen
It's like the nefarious evil version of Game Recognized Game.
jordan holmes
It is!
It's like, oh, this is Alex Jones 2.0, then the rest of the world should be like, gotcha, we will treat him exactly the way we treat you.
Thank you for the assist!
dan friesen
Yes, the Times, you do not need to cover Alex Jones 2.0 with the stupid bullshit he says.
jordan holmes
You don't need to cover Trump 2.0, you don't need to cover any 2.0s.
dan friesen
No.
Also, fun idea that he's defected.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
RFK's been on your side this whole time.
jordan holmes
From what?
To what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
RFK Jr. has been an anti-vex weirdo for decades.
He's on your side.
You're not getting a new guy.
You're just realizing.
And Alex isn't even realizing.
He says, I didn't cut this clip, but he says that like, oh, years back he tried to get RFK Jr. on the show and they said, no, your show's too controversial.
So, like, Alex knows.
He's trying to have him on before.
He knows that he's not defecting.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what I would say to somebody.
Who's a conservative looking at this stuff.
Why is it that you love rich people who lie to you so much?
Why?
Why do you love rich people who lie to you?
That's such a weird thing to love.
dan friesen
I think, honestly, even that, you solve that problem, you figure out why Alex is popular.
He's a rich guy who's just lying to everybody.
jordan holmes
He's a rich guy who's lying to everybody.
Why do people like rich people who lie to everybody?
dan friesen
Well, in the case of Alex, it might be because he fucking can tell a joke.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, no.
Please don't.
Please don't.
alex jones
Of course, you know why the sun never sailed the British Empire, right?
Because God wouldn't trust an Englishman in the dark.
That's really good, actually, isn't it?
But continuing, I don't trust any of these people at the end of the day.
I trust my mom.
I trust my dad.
Maybe I trust my wife.
I mean, I love her and care about her, but I'm not sure about that.
I'm joking.
Maybe not.
But you know what I mean.
I trust my mother and my father.
And I love my children, and they're pretty good, but I've still seen them do some weird stuff.
jordan holmes
Is this still the joke?
unidentified
And I think I trust the crew.
alex jones
The crew we've got now, we've been through a lot together, I mean that.
dan friesen
What is happening?
I don't trust my kids.
jordan holmes
They've done weird stuff.
dan friesen
If I'm one of his kids, I'm not thrilled to hear this.
jordan holmes
If I'm at an open mic.
dan friesen
Dad's telling his millions of listeners that he doesn't trust me.
jordan holmes
If I'm at an open mic and a guy starts going, ah, take my wife, please!
You're like, ah, shut down.
But then if he's like, yeah, but also, I don't know, maybe take one of my kids.
Not her.
She's good, but he does a lot of weird shit.
dan friesen
Take my kids.
They've done weird shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then it's like, oh, now I'm listening.
Okay, this is a terrible thing.
dan friesen
I'm also concerned with Alex's, like, I don't trust my wife.
I'm joking.
Maybe I'm not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very much not a joke.
dan friesen
You do not trust your wife.
And I know that he doesn't trust his wife because he's stalked her with his hired security guards.
jordan holmes
Well, we did read about that in the news.
dan friesen
Yes.
And the DUI in the court documents from that.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, bad times.
Clearly doesn't trust her.
jordan holmes
I would not stay married to somebody that I don't trust.
I feel like that seems like a simple part of a...
Who knows?
dan friesen
Yeah, you know, abuse dynamics come into it, so it's hard to judge too harshly.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex decides to get back into the PNAC document and lies.
Lies a bit.
alex jones
And so I've made it a point.
In my 29 years on air, to study something called race-specific bioweapons.
So the Vice President of the United States wrote a paper in September of 2000.
Here it is on screen for you.
Anybody can type this in and find it.
It's a project for New American Century, a neocon CFR Bilderberg Group think tank.
Rebuilding America's Defense's Strategy, Forces, and Resources for a New Century.
Now, in this, they said a terror attack that kills on League with the level of deaths in Pearl Harbor, which was 3,000.
9-11 was 3,000, one year later.
Would be ideal to launch Pax Americana.
They also, it's a long report, but we just printed one page for you.
This is page 60. And it says, an advanced form of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.
And it goes on to say that this is what we may need to use against foreign enemies because they're getting so sophisticated.
So, I just showed you Dick Cheney.
You may have heard of him.
See, when the news calls me a white supremacist, notice they don't show a clip of anything like that because they're lying.
When I tell you Dick Cheney said that, 20 minutes ago I went, you know what, better print it, better show it.
That's the hallmark of real news versus lies.
dan friesen
So you can sense in that pause that he had that Alex read the quote from the document and then he was asking himself, like, is that it?
He's built this up in his mind to such a degree that he's probably a bit surprised to go back and look and be like, that's all there is here, oh no.
That's why he had to make up the part about the document saying that we need to use race-specific bioweapons against other countries, because they're too sophisticated.
Just a little trick here that you can almost always rely on.
When Alex is reading something and then says it goes on to say, whatever he says next is completely made up.
What's happening is that he's realized that he can't use a source the way he needs to in order to make his narrative work, so he's having to improvise and just make up bullshit.
That is 100%.
It goes on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does show you why you'll never get a clear codification of what is and what isn't.
You know, like, oh, Bilderberg, CFR, like, okay.
dan friesen
They run the project for a new American century?
What's going on here?
jordan holmes
Who runs what?
dan friesen
Dick Cheney wasn't involved.
Also, gun to his head, Alex could not say a single fucking thing Dick Cheney's done since he's been out of office.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
I am sure that he knows nothing that he's done since 2008.
jordan holmes
100% agree.
dan friesen
And neither do I. Yeah.
Except I think he popped up for an annoying interview at one point.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
But he's mostly kind of gone underground.
jordan holmes
The less you hear about him, the more you hope he's just staying away from people, you know?
Fine.
You live.
But just stay away from people where you can't hurt anybody.
That's all I want from Dick Cheney at this point.
dan friesen
I remember he had, like, didn't he get a heart replacement or something like that when he was in office or something like that?
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's never going to die.
dan friesen
It's wild that you haven't heard anything about more medical stuff since he's been out of office.
I mean, I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's because he's been replaced by a cyborg.
They've built him better.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Stronger.
Faster.
dan friesen
We have the technology.
jordan holmes
More evil.
dan friesen
So Alex plays a clip of Kamala Harris, and man, I think he whiffed on this one.
alex jones
Here's Kamala Harris on Friday talking about depopulation.
They go, oh, well, she misspoke.
Of course she can't talk.
The point is, her Freudian slip is true.
The whole agenda is depopulation.
I'll read some quotes to you.
In a few minutes after we play the RFA Club, but here she is.
kamala harris
When we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and reduce population, more of our children can breathe clean air and drink clean water.
alex jones
Okay.
So, we're going to have clean air and drink clean water if we kill people.
And I'm going to show you the UN saying, we've got to get rid of 300 plus thousand people a day to save the earth.
I'm going to show you the quotes from the UN.
dan friesen
No, from Cousteau.
jordan holmes
From the UN.
dan friesen
From Jacques Cousteau.
jordan holmes
Was Jacques Cousteau running the UN at a certain moment?
dan friesen
Apparently he was the UN embodied.
Also, that's not what I got from that Harris...
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
A little bit of a stretch.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
So Alex complains some more defending RFK.
And then he gets a little bit lost in the weeds.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
alex jones
And then he continues.
Well, let's just see the clip.
It says, yeah, the studies show that it's, there needs to be more research on this, but that it specifically targets Anglos and Africans more.
And notice I was politically correct right there, and I'm going to stop doing it because it's no insult to call black people Negroes.
It's like they say calling a homosexual a homosexual is an insult.
It's heterosexual homosexual.
It's Caucasoid or Anglo.
I mean, it just means, like in Spanish...
Negro just means black, folks.
It has nothing to do with being mean to black people.
The point is, people don't care about killing blacks with bio-weapons.
Just don't call them the N-word.
And now they're moving to say that all those words are bad.
And again, that just shows how, oh, we've taken all your rights for cutting your kids' genitals off, but don't use the scientific name for black people.
unidentified
It's preposterous.
alex jones
Meanwhile, that's what the studies say, is that it...
It targets Negroes and Caucasoids.
And that kind of sounds like a weird name too for white people, but that's the name.
If you don't like it, maybe we should change the scientific name.
Scientific names are scary sounding.
I think Caucasoid sounds like something's wrong with you.
Like, ooh, what about Caucasoid?
But it means you come from the Caucasus Mountains.
That's where they find the earliest skeletons of white people.
But regardless, ladies and gentlemen, notice how we're caught up in political correctness.
We can't even talk about the science.
Because we're too busy.
Oh, all the science words are scary, so let's not know the science words.
dan friesen
If you want to use those words, go ahead, man.
jordan holmes
I feel like the only people who are angry about this are people who are already racists.
dan friesen
You really want to say the N-word?
jordan holmes
Just say the N-word, I guess.
I mean, if you really want to say it that bad, I'm not going to come to your house.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't think Alex deserves to pat himself on the back for saying whatever words he wants.
It's some kind of an intellectual academic exercise.
I mean, he's just hearkening back to old, debunked race science.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This is silly.
Nobody who's in the fields of anthropology or biology is going to be using these classifications, these taxonomies, as if they mean anything.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah.
It's ridiculous.
I'm going to throw this out there.
I'm imagining if you and your grandfather and your grandfather's grandfather have lived in this stupid fucking country, you don't like somebody calling you an African.
I'm just saying that.
dan friesen
So this, like, also, I feel like what's going on here is that Alex is trying to sound smart And throw some stuff around to justify some of his racist beliefs.
And that's because the only thing a racist likes more than claiming that they're not racist is insisting that their racism is based on empirical facts.
jordan holmes
No, it's explaining why their racism isn't racist.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's justified.
jordan holmes
It's totally right.
dan friesen
In fact, I'm right.
jordan holmes
You think that I'm being racist, and I am.
But I am for a good reason, and that's why I'm not.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
So Alex wants to defend RFK.
And not by going on a long-winded diatribe about what words he can't say.
So he pulls out some articles.
There's a litany of articles.
We're going to go through them one by one.
jordan holmes
Lightning round.
dan friesen
And then shit is going to get very racist.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So enjoy this.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
Great.
dan friesen
This very article-heavy section before the racist storm.
Here's the first one.
alex jones
And here's some of the articles that show that.
Bio-weapons designed to kill only people of a particular race.
The Guardian.
dan friesen
So this is not an article from The Guardian that you might be thinking of out of the UK.
jordan holmes
The White Guardian.
dan friesen
This is a Nigerian news site.
This is an article from 2019.
This is an editorial covering a paper put out by the Cambridge Center for the Study of Existential Risk, which says that a weapon that targets a particular genomic profile is a potential danger in the future.
But it's not something that exists now, and this doesn't really help support Alex or RFK in any of their arguments, but the headline kind of works for Alex, so there you go.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not really possible, because you can't...
If you are going to make it, you would have to make it in such a way that it cannot mutate whatsoever, and it must always remain exactly the same, and that's just not possible.
dan friesen
That is an issue, certainly.
jordan holmes
The funniest part of it is that a race-specific bioweapon would affect people of all races almost identically because we're all related to each other in some fashion.
dan friesen
So this article doesn't help.
Here's the second one.
alex jones
COVID-19 pandemic origins, bioweapons, the history of laboratory leaks.
A big scientific paper report getting into race-specific weapons.
dan friesen
So this is not a big scientific report, but it's published on the NIH's website for the National Library of Medicine, so you know what that means.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex hasn't read it.
This is a paper from the Southern Medical Journal, and the headline really seems useful to Alex.
However, if he had read even the introduction to the paper, he would have seen this.
The aim of this perspective is to show that the current pandemic is unlikely to have resulted from either bioweapons or a laboratory.
Hmm.
This has the appearance of proving him right when it doesn't.
It's the opposite.
This is a charade.
It's a bullshit charade.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I made fun of...
And it's so easy to do.
You read old-timey stuff from the 1880s old-timey newspapers and stuff like that.
And you see the headlines are six sentences long.
That's the way to do it.
I was making fun of them and we had it backwards.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The headline should be so much longer.
dan friesen
Sure.
And the news should be like McNeil Lair.
It should be boring as shit.
jordan holmes
It should be boring as shit.
dan friesen
And public funded.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I don't want to know about the news.
That's why they have it.
dan friesen
Yes.
McNeil Lair.
Bring them back as cyborgs.
And only one of them's dead.
I think we've talked about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think so.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's another article.
I think we've looked it up on air.
Yeah.
alex jones
COVID, SARS, COVID-2, COVID.
Be a biological weapon and be race-specific.
dan friesen
So this is another article from the National Library of Medicine website.
Alex is just adding on to the end the part and quote, and it could be race-specific.
He just added that to the headline.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's adding the whole and.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
No, that's all made up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just literally him faking a source while trying to make an argument.
This is a paper in the Iranian Journal of Public Health.
And again, Alex should read the sources he presents on air.
Because it's not a study or even a research paper.
This is a letter to the editor.
The grammar is terrible, and it doesn't even demonstrate or prove anything.
This wouldn't fly as a source for like a junior high paper, and yet here Alex is passing it off to his audience because the headline has the appearance of supporting the narrative that he makes money selling them.
jordan holmes
This is a letter to the editor.
dan friesen
Yes, it starts, Dear Editor-in-Chief.
jordan holmes
That is such him using a YouTube comment.
It's the same thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, sad.
jordan holmes
Oh god, that's sad.
dan friesen
But is there more?
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
It's all fair biological warfare, the controversy of genetically engineered bio-weapons.
unidentified
And it goes on.
dan friesen
It definitely doesn't do anything to make Alex's argument, nor does it help RFK.
These are all terrible.
jordan holmes
I appreciate the animus behind it, but no is the answer to that question.
Should there be ethics about bias?
No, there shouldn't be.
So no, so no.
dan friesen
But that's actually, the answer is yes.
Then there should be ethical limits put in place.
That restrict the exploration and making of these.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So that is still an ethical question.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, I understand, but it's a fairly simple, like, if you're trying to create ethnic bioweapons, no.
dan friesen
The making of them has ethical ramifications.
jordan holmes
Already, no.
dan friesen
And that is where the discussion is relevant.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And I think that that's probably partially what the paper is about.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So we have one last thing Alex brings up, and I mean, wow, what a failure.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
That's not even a study.
unidentified
That's an accusation that China made.
dan friesen
Should Alex really believe this based on how much he hates the Chinese government?
This accusation came from foreign ministry spokesperson Wang Winben, who only said this because a day prior, U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken had criticized the Chinese government for their repression of Uyghurs and Tibetans.
This isn't evidence of anything, and that is the sum of Alex's evidence.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
None of this means anything.
jordan holmes
Right.
So Alex's source cited on this is someone saying, I know you are, but what am I?
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is an important point to make.
If Alex cared at all or took any of this seriously, he would do a better job.
He doesn't care at all, and this is just a pageant meant to instill fear in the audience, particularly the white audience.
If he really thought any of this meant anything, he would have spent even a single minute preparing for this show instead of having his intern print out anything he can find on Google with a headline that sounds good, even if the body of the article directly contradicts the point that Alex is trying to make.
The intent in rattling off headlines like this is to deflect from how little evidence Alex actually has.
Because we played these one at a time, but, you know, if you're listening live, it's a da-da-da-da-da-da.
It's a drum beat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he creates the appearance of having this overabundance of evidence in order to mask...
That he has nothing.
jordan holmes
He has no evidence.
dan friesen
He has all these articles, but this farce only works if you're forced to experience them quickly and with no analysis.
This is an intentional presentation strategy that Alex employs because it's easy.
He doesn't have to do any work and he gets to pretend that he's proving his point because he is, at his core, a lazy fucking liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and generally speaking, if you have that many sources, you don't need to use that many sources because...
People already have a general understanding of it just by being a part of the culture.
They've seen one of those headlines because one random person read The Guardian and one random person did this whole thing.
There's an awareness of the thing.
So when you're going into it specifically, you can dive into one source.
dan friesen
One person read that 2019 editorial in the Nigerian Guardian.
jordan holmes
All right, well, that one I'm not going to.
I mean, in the real world.
If you were rattling off true sources, you wouldn't need to.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You understand.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I'm sorry, but...
jordan holmes
Now we're going to get racist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The next two clips are deeply offensive.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They are to the point where I almost don't even know how to respond to them outside of just like...
jordan holmes
Gah!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So here's the first one.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
But in these major studies, for some reason, Chinese, not just even the other Asians, they get a little less, but Chinese are some of the most homogeneous, is the word.
Other people would call it inbred.
People are homogeneous in white people in West Virginia coal towns and stuff, because they're marrying their sister.
And I'm saying, I mean, that's just a fact.
And it causes genetic problems, schizophrenia, mental illness, you name it.
So, royalty is interbred.
That's why they're so crazy.
Now, the Egyptian royalty was completely insane because they would interbreed.
And you see the Rothschilds giving speeches about, yes, I've been interbreeding with our family for 400 years.
But you're not supposed to do that now.
Yeah, because it creates lunatics.
And so much of the lunatic behavior we see in the world is from inbred groups.
I digress from that, ladies and gentlemen.
We love everybody.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I mean, we've heard this before from Alex.
We've heard this idea that he has that the Chinese are the most inbred...
I mean, it's nothing more than a manifestation of his racism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it is just he thinks Chinese people are all the same.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he will later say basically that.
jordan holmes
Great.
Yeah, I mean, it is a revelation.
He's telling on himself.
If you bother to learn about one of the most diverse places on this fucking planet.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because it's geographically...
Fucking massive!
dan friesen
Yeah, and a lot of areas are cut off from each other, too.
unidentified
Absolutely!
dan friesen
But the reason, it's just a surface-level thing, because it's 92% Han Chinese in the population.
unidentified
Sure!
dan friesen
And that alone is enough for Alex to be like, everything is the same.
Of course.
Homogeneous, and what have you.
Also, like, I don't know, inbred and inbreeding are like, I don't think those are terms people, like, use.
I think it's consanguinous.
Isn't that the sort of more neutral term on it?
jordan holmes
Is that neutral derived from poison?
dan friesen
No, it's blood.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I feel like the inbred and inbreeding, those words kind of have taken on an insult category.
jordan holmes
Aren't they more socially just things you say to insult people?
dan friesen
They're pejoratives.
Yeah, and I think that people who are serious about stuff wouldn't necessarily use that term.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was looking into it a little bit, actually, and it's kind of interesting.
The technical definition of a consanguineous marriage is a marriage between people who are closer than second cousins.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
10% of the world, approximately.
Comes from consanguineous marriages.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So, like, and maybe not a formal marriage, but you know what I mean.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So, I mean, like, it's pretty...
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm fairly certain that I've read that all of that, not all of it, but much of the idea of the effects is overblown and kind of socially created to just make sure you don't do this shit, you know?
dan friesen
Well, it's relative.
Depending on how much overlap of genetic material you pass on, how much of that is identical.
Yeah, and there's obviously risks and stuff like that, but different parts of the world have different patterns and what have you.
And, I mean, not for nothing, it doesn't mean anything, but Alex is wrong.
There's other parts of the world that have far higher rates of consanguineous marriage than China.
It's just as racist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it just doesn't seem to make sense anymore whenever one part of the world points at another part and goes, oh, you're doing something weird.
It's like, yeah, everybody can...
Point at everybody and say that.
dan friesen
So it gets worse a bit.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I think in this next clip, along the same theme, kind of.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
alex jones
And so you could say that's why they're immune, is their genetics are so mutated.
And I mean, being white is a mutation, which is, you get down to that, but a super mutation of the mutation.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
Red hair is a mutation of the mutation.
And with the mutation, there's come advanced intelligence and some other things.
But the point is, is that when I say that the Chinese are a...
Inbred, super mutant class, that's in the genetics.
And again, remember, a mutant is not a bad thing.
You know, like the X-Men and all that, which is fictional, but you know, it's like, oh, it's good to be a mutant, you understand?
And the point is, the Chinese do have some super geniuses in people.
The point is, as you go to China, you're like, damn, people almost look exactly the same.
Like clones or something, okay?
So, the issue is there's not a lot of genetic diversity.
dan friesen
I don't even know what to say.
jordan holmes
I don't even know what to say.
dan friesen
I'm baffled.
jordan holmes
That's like toss somebody out the window, shit.
Like, we're on the eighth floor.
Like, if we're on the first floor, we're fighting.
But if it's eighth floor, that's just out the window with you.
dan friesen
I mean, I...
jordan holmes
Defenestration is the neutral term for this.
dan friesen
I was listening to this, and I was like, all right, I know that Alex is going to defend RFK.
And then, like, what the fuck?
jordan holmes
What the fuck is happening?
dan friesen
They're an inbred super mutant class.
jordan holmes
I mean, what is that?
What even is that?
I know it's racist, but what even is that?
dan friesen
It's like the X-Men.
jordan holmes
But what?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm flabbergasted by this.
jordan holmes
I mean, I...
dan friesen
I mean, but Alex tells on himself again, in that clip, at the end, he's like, you go to China and everybody looks the same.
You're like clones of each other.
That's what he's talking about, and he's couching it in these genetic terms in order to make himself feel like that's not just what he's saying.
That he's not just expressing his own cultural racism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, if you start the sentence by saying, I think you all look the same to me.
Then people really don't care what you say after that.
You've already said what you needed to say.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't sound smart.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so you try and say all these other things, but then even at the end you say, eh, they all look the same to me.
dan friesen
Alex is just a racist.
I mean, this is insane.
jordan holmes
Pure racist.
dan friesen
I don't know what to do.
I mean, I don't even know how to respond to...
I mean, obviously you shouldn't throw people out windows.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But I feel like...
unidentified
Thinking about throwing someone out the window is about the only response.
dan friesen
Reasonable.
Because I got nothing to say other than, no.
jordan holmes
You know, that brings me back to the righteous gemstones.
We're all just fucking apes, man.
Just walk around, get into a fight with your little peen, and fucking, we're just apes.
Stop this.
This is insane behavior.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to commercial.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he comes back and reflects on what he has just said.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All right, I went off into a spasm of information dealing with human genetics, and I don't claim to have degrees or much of biology.
I've just read thousands of papers on it.
So probably 98% of what I was saying was somewhat accurate, but it's just amazing.
dan friesen
98% was somewhat accurate.
jordan holmes
What does that mean?
What does that...
That means 100% is not accurate.
dan friesen
Yeah, it means you're making shit up and you're a racist fuckhead, so shut the fuck up.
jordan holmes
90%, 98%.
Is 75% right?
dan friesen
I don't know the math.
I'm not interested in the math.
jordan holmes
That's zero.
That's zero percent.
dan friesen
So Alex, one of the interns, has found a study for him that wasn't in the barrage of headlines like China making an accusation.
jordan holmes
China says you suck.
dan friesen
And here's that.
alex jones
The point is, they did pull one of the studies here.
Significant impacts of COVID-19 pandemic on race, ethnic, diversities, and U.S. mortality.
There's a bunch of these.
And this is a big public interest social health research deal.
A bunch of colleges and professors crushed the data.
Finally, the pandemic shifted radical ethnic mortality differentials in favor of white people, narrowing the Hispanic advantage and widening the black disadvantage.
And so whites and blacks got sick.
Hispanics not as sick because they've got Chinese genetics.
And the Spanish didn't know that.
That's the main ethnic group.
dan friesen
So a couple things to note.
Alex says that it's a public interest in social health study because the first line of this article is, quote, public interest in social and health inequalities is increasing.
He just picked out a few words and threw them out, but then realized that he couldn't say inequalities.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not a real word in the info war, my man.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Then he read the last sentence of the first paragraph.
Quote, Finally, the pandemic shifted racial and ethnic mortality differentials in favor of white people, narrowing the Hispanic advantage and widening the black disadvantage.
That line makes no sense out of context.
What does the paper mean by advantage or disadvantage?
That makes no sense unless you've read the rest of it or have context.
So this is speaking in terms of relative life expectancy, and Alex's summation of what he just read is not even supported by the text.
Even if you just take the thing that he said on air, you can't conclude that white and black people were hurt the most and Hispanics were all right, probably because they're secretly all Chinese.
The sentence Alex read said that the pandemic shifted mortality differentials, quote, in favor of white people.
Put succinctly, the Hispanic population had a slight advantage over the white population in terms of life expectancy, but the pandemic narrowed that advantage because the Hispanic population was hit disproportionately hard by COVID and COVID deaths, which shouldn't be the case if anything Alex is saying were true.
This very paper that Alex is citing says, quote, recent findings show that COVID-19 death rates were highest in the Hispanic population.
How does that work, Alex?
You liar?
You dumb, lazy liar?
jordan holmes
Yeah, wouldn't that undercut the whole...
dan friesen
All of Alex's premise.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would say all of it, yes.
dan friesen
This is another case where the source that Alex presents contradicts what he's saying, but it has a useful headline, and his audience just lets him make shit up so it doesn't matter.
He's providing the very article that says he's wrong, and yet his listeners will still buy into the charade that he knows anything or does any preparation.
If he did, like, even just read the sources he provides, he would know this paper doesn't suggest that race differences account for the disparity in pandemic life expectancy drops.
Social factors played the largest role, according to this paper.
For instance, when they explain the worst effect on the Hispanic population thusly, quote, The paper says,
quote, Yeah.
may have been disproportionately likely to continue working due to their lower ability to access unemployment benefits, e.g.
because of no residence permit for non-U.S.
citizens or limited access to information on benefits for non-English speakers.
Alex, Alex didn't read this article, and if he did...
He wouldn't agree with it.
But because he's a lazy liar, he's fine using it to defend his bullshit, entirely comfortable in the awareness that his audience will never go read his sources and find out what a big lying fraud he is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
A big old asshole.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it's so stark and so annoying how long this has been going on as, like, just, yes.
I mean, it is true when Alex points this out, but capitalism does use race as a way to distract from the fundamental problems of capitalism.
You know, from the first unions excluding black men to the first wave feminism excluding black women.
You know, it's like all of these things are undone by the pervasive ability of these fucks like Alex Jones to...
To get people obsessed with race.
And instead of seeing that that's what fucks them up...
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like there is a problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex makes it worse.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There is an awareness that is helpful and that can be funneled into productive growth.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it is not what Alex is providing.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, it is like...
Capitalism is the problem that he's distracting with racism, and so he exacerbates racism, which reinforces and exacerbates capitalism.
dan friesen
And he does it by just making shit up.
jordan holmes
Just making shit up!
dan friesen
Yep.
And he makes up another thing here.
alex jones
Here's another one.
New insights on genetic susceptibility of COVID-19 and ACE2 and TMPRSS2.
Polymorphism analysis, and it says it targets blacks and whites more.
And it goes on from there.
dan friesen
Oh, it goes on.
jordan holmes
Oh, it goes on.
dan friesen
So this is an article from July 2020.
So it's not really capturing all of the scholarship about COVID.
It was a little early.
It discusses how it's been found that polymorphisms and ACE2 receptors that were prevalent in African and African-American populations were associated with cardiovascular and pulmonary conditions, higher incidences of that.
Sure.
unidentified
And how polymorphisms like this could, quote, offer potential explanations for differential genetic susceptibility to COVID-19 as well as for risk factors.
dan friesen
The article is suggesting this as a possibility.
And their conclusion is that, quote, polymorphisms were likely associated with genetic susceptibility of COVID-19 and that it requires further study.
Yeah.
unidentified
This is nothing about the things Alex claims it does.
dan friesen
It doesn't bring up white people and black people being hit harder.
All he does is fucking Google headlines that he thinks they sound good and he just makes up their expectations.
Yeah, I mean...
jordan holmes
It is shit.
It is shit that, like, we have so many brilliant scientists who can figure out polymorphic receptors and shit like that, but we can't just be like, hey, when you cram a bunch of poor people into small spaces, they're going to spread the disease amongst themselves faster than if they're in...
dan friesen
Well, they say that in a lot of different words.
jordan holmes
No, I know, but it is like, we should be past, that shouldn't be, we should be thinking about...
Polymorphic receptors now.
Because we've moved on from that other very simple problem.
You know?
Nope.
dan friesen
Apparently not.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
So the rest of this episode shifts subject.
So we're through with COVID and RFK.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Although it was a slog.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Right.
And now Alex lies about...
His behavior in the lead-up to the invasion of Ukraine.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And in the process admits that he has Russian disinformation people on his show as guests.
alex jones
Great.
But I don't need to have the Russians.
Look, I don't just believe the Russians, and they lie sometimes.
They put Russian operatives on our show, because we have Russian reporters on.
We've had Iranian reporters, Japanese reporters, British reporters, French reporters, Brazilian reporters, Mexican reporters, Canadian reporters, Scottish reporters, Irish reporters.
You've seen them all here.
South African reporters, Nigerian reporters, we've had them all.
And we, right before the Russia invasion, had Russian media people on like, no, we are not invading.
This is American lies.
And meanwhile, the Russian troops were all masked about to go in.
They were tasked to put the disinfo out so the Russians wouldn't get caught and blown up by all the NATO weapons, which they did.
And I'm just looking at the guy going, so you're not invading?
No, Mr. Jones, no.
And I'm like, well, why do we see troops passing here?
Sorry, the connection is breaking up.
We need to say bye-bye now.
So, I don't just mindlessly believe the Russians either.
dan friesen
That is so far from what he was doing.
It's nuts.
jordan holmes
I resent the willingness to rewrite that story that much.
dan friesen
Do you think that he believes that that's what he was doing?
jordan holmes
I hope not.
dan friesen
It's scary to imagine that he thinks that.
jordan holmes
It is terrifying.
dan friesen
The past is just so malleable to him that he creates in his head what he wishes had been the behavior that he displayed.
And then he's like, yeah, I had Russian disinformation people coming on the show and they're saying they weren't going to invade and I didn't believe that shit.
I called them out on air.
He was saying they weren't going to invade.
jordan holmes
He was saying they're not going to invade.
dan friesen
He was praising Putin.
unidentified
He was saying this is the best.
jordan holmes
He was saying that the whole thing is negotiated already.
dan friesen
Yeah, that Zelensky's working for Putin.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
This is bullshit.
jordan holmes
I am so frustrated.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Nothing means anything.
This is malicious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no.
That is truly terrifying to think that you can rewrite it that much and believe it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's absurd.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that the audience wouldn't be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
jordan holmes
No, I know.
It's almost like revealing a superpower.
Like, you can literally control the universe for this group of people, and it's fucking insane.
dan friesen
I think the superpower is more persuasion-based.
Sure.
But the superpower itself is being able to control reality.
So rigidly for yourself.
You know, you can convince yourself of anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's not a good X-Man.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
That's not a good X-Man.
But it's the X-Men that would get the other X-Men to be fucking racist.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
So Alex lies some more about his pre-invasion coverage, but in the process also lies about how he doesn't like liars.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
This is an Ouroboros.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
You tell the truth.
You care about freedom and humanity.
I'm your brother.
I'm your sister.
I'm your father.
I'm your son.
We're together.
unidentified
But when you lie, I'm going to come after you.
alex jones
So I don't care if it's the Russians lying or CNN lying.
I don't care who it is, I'm going to expose it.
That's why, again, we've had Russian reporters on before.
They're like, no one is invading this week.
No, Alex.
I'm like, oh, what about this?
Sorry, we got to go.
I was like, I'm more sure than ever they're about to invade.
Remember, I understand.
jordan holmes
So you lied to your audience then?
alex jones
But the main war was about to start.
And so I just make that point that my job is so easy.
It's not try to think, what are people going to think of this?
What's the effect politically going to be?
When you do that, you infect your mind with a bunch of questions of politics and what sounds right.
When you just go with what you believe is accurate from deep research and commitment to the truth, you almost always get an incredibly good answer that's insanely accurate.
dan friesen
None of that means anything.
jordan holmes
That means nothing.
unidentified
No, but...
jordan holmes
He's insanely accurate.
dan friesen
Alex believes himself to be telling the truth.
And we...
For six years plus have been calling him a fucking liar.
So we're lying, according to him.
He should come after us.
jordan holmes
It seems like he's almost doing the opposite and really ignoring us.
dan friesen
Yeah, because to him, we're liars.
jordan holmes
Right.
We would have to be.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, by definition, we would very much have to be.
Right.
Yeah.
dan friesen
He hasn't come after us.
jordan holmes
No, it does seem like maybe he's filled with braggadocio and is actually a giant coward.
dan friesen
We were guests on his enemy Brian Stelter show talking about how he's a liar.
jordan holmes
We were in the courtroom with him.
dan friesen
Yes!
jordan holmes
We were in the background of some local TV spot.
Yes!
dan friesen
Calling him a liar!
jordan holmes
He didn't even turn around and notice us.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
What an asshole.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, anyway, we have one last clip here.
And, um...
I mean...
There's different levels of disturbing.
You know, like his racist shit about Chinese people, quite disturbing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very disturbing.
dan friesen
His seeming ability to convince himself his past isn't real, disturbing.
jordan holmes
That's terrifying.
dan friesen
This is also disturbing because if you listen to this, I believe that Alex might think that he is the human that God has chosen to defeat Satan.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
Literally.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
But people ask, why am I still alive?
Because there's good in the universe.
God's real.
I've been protected so far.
I'm on a mission.
God told me 27 years ago.
I've been on here about two years, and I just had this vision.
It was like a download.
I've told the story 100 times when I was sitting there at night, 9 o'clock, on my local show on TV.
dan friesen
Real quick, while I was listening to this, I was just like, chicken fried steak.
Shake and fried steak.
Get to that detail, shake and fried steak.
jordan holmes
So was he...
Wait, just going back, was he telling the truth then whenever he told Glenn Greenwald that he said a lot of that Sandy Hook shit while he was drunk?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
Remember whenever we did that?
He said, oh, I was drunk when I was on air a bunch of the time.
dan friesen
He said that a couple times, though.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He didn't say that in court.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Seems like he lied.
dan friesen
Well, he wasn't asked, I don't think, about whether or not he was drunk.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But chicken fried steak.
jordan holmes
Chicken fried steak.
dan friesen
He's told that story so many times, and that detail is in there.
I'm just waiting for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Access television when they had a chicken fried steak.
dan friesen
Chicken fried steak.
alex jones
I can't remember.
I think it was iced tea.
I barely even drank back then.
I've gotten more corrupt as years going on.
I mean, back then, hell, 27 years ago, I might drink two beers a week, so it's probably iced tea.
And I'm sitting there, and I just, like, all of a sudden, like, felt this presence in the room.
They're, like, mopping up about to close in 30 minutes.
Nobody was in there.
And I just sat there for about an hour, and as soon as I was ready to leave, they opened the door and locked it, and I walked out.
And it was just like, this is the whole rest of your life here, son.
You ready to do this?
It's all going to happen.
I saw everything.
It was wild, too.
And, like, God shaded the individuals, the personalities, the people.
I wasn't shown who it would be or what happened, but it was like, And you're going to do this, and you're going to get persecuted, but it's going to explode.
And then all these people are going to wake up, and it's going to have this giant effect.
And then it's going to build towards that understanding before the Antichrist takes over and enslaves people for a few years and kills billions of people.
But then out of that, Satan winning in the third quarter is the best way to humanly describe it.
It was way more advanced than that.
Then out of the work you've done and others do now to plant the seeds, That great tyranny of the devil will be like sunlight and rain on the seeds, and there'll be this giant harvest, the biggest ever, that will bring down Satan's empire.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So it's like when LeBron was on the Cavs, and he was down 3-1 in the Champions to the Golden State Warriors, because they always win the third quarter.
You know, they were famously winners of the third quarter.
dan friesen
Well, it's much more sophisticated than this.
jordan holmes
It feels very...
dan friesen
But this is how humans can put it in their tiny human brains.
unidentified
It feels very simple.
jordan holmes
And I am so annoyed.
dan friesen
You fucking child.
jordan holmes
I got a vision from God.
dan friesen
Not you, Alex.
jordan holmes
No, I understand.
Hey, it applies both ways.
dan friesen
Man, I think, like, we gotta get, like, 5150, this guy.
I just think, you know, we keep coming back to it, but, like...
He either suffers from pretty severe delusions, or he's presenting himself as someone who has these delusions of grandeur about his cosmic importance in order to defraud people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I mean, I just...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, it's weird to think about, but I mean, we could get rid of all the anti-drug laws, and if we could just do something about...
I think we'd have things pretty much solved.
dan friesen
I think that there's something very fair and very good about having a sense that you're meant to do something important in your life.
You know, because as humans, we struggle with our mortality and the fact that, you know, there's a limit to the stuff that you can do.
There is so much that is possible to do, and you can't fit that all into your life.
True.
unidentified
And that kind of sucks.
dan friesen
You know, you have goals.
Sometimes they work out.
Sometimes they don't.
But having in your heart some kind of a sense that, like, the things that I choose to do...
will be important in some way.
Sure.
unidentified
That's great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
And I respect that when, you know, people have those feelings.
dan friesen
Even if Alex said that that was a feeling that he had, I'd be like, yeah, you know, that's great.
It's not healthy to think that you had a vision from God over a chicken fried steak and iced tea that told you the rest of your future and that you would be instrumental, integral, in fact, in conquering the devil.
That's what people who need meds say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is very much like you can be hospitalized, or you can be a cult leader, or you can be a CEO.
These are all things available to delusional people.
dan friesen
Right.
This is something that someone very unhealthy says.
Someone who has real problems.
And if you heard this coming out of the mouth of anybody other than Alex Jones...
jordan holmes
You're having an episode.
Right!
dan friesen
You would categorize it accurately.
But because he has the...
You know, the papers ignore Alex when he says shit like...
All Chinese are a class of super mutant inbred people.
And rightly so!
Ignore his dumbass!
And because RFK Jr. is in a different grouping, people don't respond to him saying the same shit Alex does the same way.
It's kind of the same dynamic.
But yeah, Alex is essentially manifesting and presenting as somebody who needs...
Like, intervention.
And Robert Kennedy is acting like Alex Jones on his show.
So, people should respond accordingly.
jordan holmes
It is just money and power is the only difference.
Money and power is the only difference between people.
dan friesen
And it's a gradient thing.
Robert Kennedy has a little bit more money and influence than Alex.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, if I said stuff that sounded similar to that...
It would be like there would be a task force immediately springing into action.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'd never let you get away with that.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
Your wife would never let you get away with that.
jordan holmes
No, because you saved my life on a regular basis.
dan friesen
I just, I think.
Yeah, it's like Alex needs help or he should be ashamed.
And maybe both.
jordan holmes
Pick one and solve, but focus on the mental health.
dan friesen
And then once you're through that.
Then you should feel ashamed for that shit you're saying.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
That racist nonsense.
jordan holmes
And then you should go away.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You should go away.
dan friesen
Someday soon.
jordan holmes
Just go away.
dan friesen
Much like I have faith that important things will be done by us and the future and all of us.
Sure.
I have faith that Alex will go away eventually.
jordan holmes
I hope so.
dan friesen
But for now, Jordan, we wrap up this maiden voyage.
This awful, awful...
Well, that was not what I was expecting when I looked on Twitter while I was moving and saw what RFK had said.
I was like, I don't expect Alex to go that hard.
jordan holmes
I don't think there'll be massive racism.
Oh, no.
They all looked at...
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
At least he didn't say they have a hive mind this time.
unidentified
Oh, my God, yeah.
dan friesen
Because I think that's what he said about Chinese people last time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Jesus.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Everybody's individuals.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
jordan holmes
We will.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at KnowledgeFight.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
unidentified
Ski-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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