Knowledge Fight - #690: May 27, 2022
Aired: 2022-06-10
Duration: 01:30:59


=== Welcome Back to Knowledge Fight (05:20) ===

[00:00:20]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:21]  I have great respect for knowledge fight.
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[00:00:49]  Hello, Alex.
[00:00:50]  I'm a free-time caller.
[00:00:51]  I'm a huge fan.
[00:00:51]  I love your room.
[00:00:53]  Knowledge Fight.
[00:00:55]  KnowledgeFight.com.
[00:00:58]  I love you.
[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:59]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  Jordan!
[00:01:02]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:07]  Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
[00:01:08]  Yeah.
[00:01:08]  Dan!
[00:01:09]  Jordan!
[00:01:09]  Quick question!
[00:01:10]  What's up?
[00:01:10]  What's your bright spot?
[00:01:11]  My bright spot today, Jordan, is actually there's become a little bit of an issue with the dreamy, creamy summer.
[00:01:18]  Oh, no.
[00:01:19]  The dreamy, creamy summer, as we all know, is the period of time between 4.20 and 9.11 where I eat a lot of ice cream.
[00:01:27]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:28]  Famously.
[00:01:29]  Famously that period of time.
[00:01:31]  It'll be celebrated every year from now on.
[00:01:33]  Naturally, naturally.
[00:01:35]  But there's an issue.
[00:01:36]  What's that?
[00:01:37]  Well.
[00:01:38]  Nightmare on Elm Street issue with the dreamy, creamy part?
[00:01:40]  Dreamy, creamy child?
[00:01:42]  Dreamy, creamy master?
[00:01:43]  Yeah.
[00:01:46]  No.
[00:01:47]  No, okay.
[00:01:47]  That is not the problem.
[00:01:48]  All right.
[00:01:49]  The problem is we're focusing a lot on the creamy.
[00:01:51]  Because we've got the ice cream.
[00:01:52]  Sure.
[00:01:52]  Lots of ice cream going in.
[00:01:54]  Some of it is more dreamy than others, but I feel like the dreaminess has not been fully accounted for.
[00:02:02]  So you're going to start reading the Sandman comics?
[00:02:03]  I'm not.
[00:02:04]  I'm not going to do that, because that sounds like a chore.
[00:02:08]  I have decided I'm going to get a bunch more clothes.
[00:02:14]  I have not spent any time.
[00:02:16]  I'm gonna get myself looking dreaming.
[00:02:18]  Okay!
[00:02:19]  I have spent no time on outfit.
[00:02:23]  In your life.
[00:02:24]  Ever.
[00:02:24]  Ever.
[00:02:25]  Not once.
[00:02:25]  I have had a constant aversion to clothes shopping.
[00:02:29]  Yeah.
[00:02:29]  And I think a large portion of it has to do with, like, growing up, we'd go to Target to get clothes.
[00:02:33]  Sure.
[00:02:33]  You know, it felt a little blah.
[00:02:35]  Right.
[00:02:36]  And then it was just a hassle of, like, trying stuff on and being rushed by my parents and they don't want to buy name brands and the kids would make fun of my pants.
[00:02:44]  Right.
[00:02:44]  You know, it was just, like, I think I had...
[00:02:48]  At the beginning of the week, let's say, I had two shirts other than, like, t-shirts.
[00:02:53]  Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[00:02:54]  Like, two button-up shirts that I could wear.
[00:02:56]  Yeah, that's about how many I had.
[00:02:57]  I had a green one and an orange one.
[00:03:00]  They're like, this is no good!
[00:03:02]  And so I have branched out.
[00:03:04]  I have worn one of the new shirts here.
[00:03:06]  I wasn't going to say, Dan, is that a new shirt?
[00:03:09]  Like sort of semi-floral print?
[00:03:11]  You know?
[00:03:12]  Pseudo-Hawaiian shirt kind of thing?
[00:03:14]  But I don't get to say stuff like that because I'm famously the most unobservational person that most people have ever met.
[00:03:20]  So if I say like...
[00:03:21]  You say famously, famously.
[00:03:23]  It's like, oh, is that a new shirt?
[00:03:25]  And everybody's like, I've worn this to your wedding.
[00:03:27]  And it's like, okay, well, you're right.
[00:03:28]  That's a good point.
[00:03:29]  Yeah, this is one of the new ones.
[00:03:32]  It looks great on you.
[00:03:33]  Thank you.
[00:03:33]  We're going to see how garish it gets.
[00:03:35]  How garish it gets.
[00:03:36]  Some of them might be a little loud.
[00:03:38]  What's your garishness level?
[00:03:40]  I'm interested to find out what you believe garishness is.
[00:03:43]  I'm not interested in seeing what garish is.
[00:03:45]  I want to know what you think it is.
[00:03:47]  My old buddy, Nicky Gifts, could give you some insight into that.
[00:03:52]  He and I have known each other since junior high.
[00:03:54]  Sure, sure.
[00:03:55]  Well, I mean, I guess we didn't really become friends until high school.
[00:03:58]  But we went to junior high together, and so he could tell you some stories of days where I would wear shiny shirts.
[00:04:05]  Shiny shirts?
[00:04:06]  There was one...
[00:04:07]  Sparkling?
[00:04:08]  Or just fluorescent?
[00:04:10]  Not fluorescent.
[00:04:11]  They're the kind of things that the light would catch stuff on it, let's say.
[00:04:15]  Glittery.
[00:04:16]  Yeah, that's fair.
[00:04:18]  One of them was flaming dice.
[00:04:22]  Yeah, I'd wear that to school.
[00:04:23]  That's garish.
[00:04:24]  Wow.
[00:04:24]  Yeah.
[00:04:25]  Wow.
[00:04:25]  I will not be going that far as to descend back into the flaming dice land.
[00:04:29]  Here's the problem with you, Dan, is that when I think of you in junior high, I think of a slightly smaller version of you wearing dice on your shirt, and that is almost exactly what you looked like in junior high.
[00:04:41]  It's a smaller version of you, so...
[00:04:44]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:04:45]  You had already started to grow that beard in junior high.
[00:04:48]  That's true.
[00:04:49]  Yeah.
[00:04:49]  That's true.
[00:04:50]  But yeah, just...
[00:04:53]  Sad.
[00:04:55]  Sadder.
[00:04:55]  Sadder, yes.
[00:04:56]  So yeah, we won't go Flaming Dice, but we'll see where the road goes for the dreaminess of the Dreamy Creamy Summer.
[00:05:01]  I'm interested.
[00:05:02]  This is a turn that's not in my wildest dreams, Dan.
[00:05:06]  I think that a lot of people, when they hear there's an issue with the Dreamy Creamy Summer, based on my past history...
[00:05:11]  I think it's ice cream.
[00:05:12]  Or it's over.
[00:05:12]  You've hated something.
[00:05:14]  Or you've quit.
[00:05:15]  I quit.
[00:05:16]  No, it is just adding a new wrinkle.
[00:05:18]  Excellent.
[00:05:18]  What's your bright spot?
[00:05:19]  My bright spot, Dan, is...
[00:05:22]  You know what?
[00:05:22]  I'm going to go ahead and say that it is our appearance on Behind the Bastards this week.

=== Update To The Update (05:15) ===

[00:05:26]  Yeah, thanks to Robert Evans and Sophie for having us.
[00:05:30]  It's very, very enjoyable.
[00:05:31]  It's nice to have that come out finally.
[00:05:33]  It was a while ago.
[00:05:35]  We recorded it.
[00:05:35]  I got a few text messages like, so great to hear you were on Behind the Bastards.
[00:05:40]  You sound a lot happier.
[00:05:41]  And it's like, well, that was a few months ago.
[00:05:43]  Yeah.
[00:05:46]  I've not had a chance to listen to the second episode of that yet, but we recorded it.
[00:05:51]  We recorded a tiny little bit of a disclaimer because we recorded that at such a different time.
[00:05:57]  It was in April when we recorded it.
[00:05:59]  It's a different world!
[00:06:00]  We were like, eh, trial's coming along.
[00:06:05]  The whole episode's supposed to be about what's going on, and Alex is so out of date.
[00:06:09]  There's an update to the update that's longer than the update.
[00:06:13]  And so I felt very self-conscious about that, but I'm glad that it's turned out well.
[00:06:18]  It's nice that it's out.
[00:06:19]  I'm glad people are getting to it.
[00:06:20]  You know, it is hard to remember outside of our sphere that most people have no idea that any of this is going on.
[00:06:26]  So it's great.
[00:06:28]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:06:29]  It's good.
[00:06:30]  And apparently cake jokes.
[00:06:33]  Yeah, I mean...
[00:06:35]  Heard a lot of feedback about cake jokes.
[00:06:37]  So, Jordan, today we are going to be continuing our path through the Uvalde shooting coverage.
[00:06:44]  As we left off...
[00:06:46]  Alex did a disgraceful night of coverage, where it was the trans person hoax, and pharmaceuticals are to blame.
[00:06:57]  And then we sort of transitioned into, it was a hostage situation on our last episode.
[00:07:04]  The narrative has shifted quite a bit, and today we're going to be looking at May 27th, which is Friday of that week.
[00:07:10]  And so we come to the close of this week, and we will see where Alex develops.
[00:07:17]  We're recording this on Thursday, and tonight is the January 6th.
[00:07:22]  The debutante ball of the January 6th committee.
[00:07:26]  What I've decided we're going to do is we're going to follow up a bit more with the Uvalde coverage on Monday, and then for Wednesday, we will flash to the present.
[00:07:39]  We'll catch back up and see where Alex is with the January 6th stuff.
[00:07:43]  But yeah, for today, May 27th, not March.
[00:07:48]  Keep marching on.
[00:07:49]  We'll get to this, but before we do, let's take a little moment, Jordan, to say hello to some new wonks.
[00:07:53]  Oh, that's a great idea.
[00:07:54]  So first, the crime pickle.
[00:07:56]  Not that crime pickle, the better crime pickle.
[00:07:58]  Thank you so much.
[00:07:58]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:07:59]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:08:01]  Thank you very much!
[00:08:01]  Thank you.
[00:08:02]  Next, Brandon.
[00:08:04]  The reason that I have difficulty with that is because it's B-R-A-N-D-Y-N.
[00:08:08]  Ooh.
[00:08:09]  And that threw me.
[00:08:10]  That Y will get you.
[00:08:11]  Yeah.
[00:08:11]  Who is celebrating a dreamy, creamy summer birthday on June 20th.
[00:08:15]  Thank you so much.
[00:08:16]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:08:17]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:08:18]  Thank you very much.
[00:08:18]  Thank you so much, Brandine!
[00:08:19]  Now, this one, I actually think I might have said before, or it's entirely possible that there's a second person with this.
[00:08:26]  And that is, Bill Ogden's giant bag of gummy worms made me decide to study law.
[00:08:31]  Thank you so much.
[00:08:31]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:08:33]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:08:34]  Thank you very much!
[00:08:35]  I think it might be a second person.
[00:08:36]  Could have been.
[00:08:37]  Inspiring the next class of barristers.
[00:08:41]  Bill is essentially...
[00:08:44]  The Top Gun of lawyers.
[00:08:46]  A lot of people are going to join the Air Force after Top Gun.
[00:08:50]  A lot of people, same thing.
[00:08:51]  I'm going to get Mark on the phone and explain to him that he needs an intimidating snack.
[00:08:55]  He's got to have something.
[00:08:56]  He needs a hook.
[00:08:59]  That's the problem with lawyers.
[00:09:00]  They don't have enough hooks.
[00:09:01]  So we got a couple of technocrats in the mix.
[00:09:05]  So the first one.
[00:09:06]  Aha, black cherry and coffee sparkling water is the literal Christian devil.
[00:09:10]  Thank you so much.
[00:09:11]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:09:12]  I might agree with that.
[00:09:13]  I haven't had it in a really long time.
[00:09:15]  It's been a while since we...
[00:09:16]  We're going to have to go to the website to find out where you're ranking.
[00:09:18]  I know I ranked it quite high.
[00:09:19]  It was pretty high.
[00:09:21]  But yeah, I haven't had it in a while.
[00:09:23]  Or fine, it's the devil.
[00:09:24]  Also, Emma, happy birthday on the 12th of June.
[00:09:28]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:09:29]  And what?
[00:09:30]  I don't have Coro.
[00:09:31]  It's just a globalist witch that poisoned my soda cans.
[00:09:34]  It requested in the Alex Jones voice.
[00:09:36]  So thank you so much.
[00:09:37]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:09:38]  And just for fun, I'm going to go with the old one.
[00:09:40]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:09:41]  Four stars.
[00:09:42]  Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
[00:09:44]  Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
[00:09:47]  Daddy Shark.
[00:09:49]  Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
[00:09:53]  He's a loser little titty baby.
[00:09:56]  I don't want to hate black people.
[00:09:58]  I renounce Jesus Christ!
[00:10:00]  Thank you so much to all.
[00:10:01]  Yes, thank you very much.
[00:10:02]  And that got played again because I have it loaded up in the iTunes.
[00:10:06]  Yep, yep.
[00:10:07]  100%.
[00:10:08]  I saw you click it.
[00:10:10]  Go ahead.
[00:10:10]  I better say something real quick.
[00:10:12]  So here, Jordan, is where we start on the 27th.
[00:10:16]  Okay.
[00:10:16]  Thank you for joining us on this live teleprompter-free Friday edition.
[00:10:20]  We have Ted Nugent, who is fired up and really informative.
[00:10:25]  He called me this morning, and I said, you've got to say this on air.

=== Software's Role Questioned (15:50) ===

[00:10:28]  Why?
[00:10:29]  The whole history of how they know about these shooters, the psychologists, the psychiatrists, the police, and in every case, from the white supremacist a few weeks ago in Buffalo to this new one, the tragic events in Uvalde, Texas.
[00:10:40]  It's unbelievable.
[00:10:41]  Now, I have been very judicious since Monday on not speculating, trying to get the facts, and to really look at what's going on.
[00:10:52]  Huh.
[00:10:52]  Really?
[00:10:53]  And we know now that the official story has unraveled.
[00:10:56]  We now know that we have been lied to, and we now know that outrageous things happen, like the police going in and getting their own children, and I don't blame them, while keeping other people from getting in.
[00:11:11]  Women forcing their way through police lines to go get their children.
[00:11:15]  A total disaster.
[00:11:16]  So, first quick point.
[00:11:18]  Alex has absolutely not been judicious in his coverage of the shooting.
[00:11:21]  He wants people to give him a trophy for not saying it was fake because he really wanted to and he resisted for a few days.
[00:11:28]  To say no trophy to that.
[00:11:29]  Yeah, that is very transparent and like, see, I didn't call it fake, right?
[00:11:34]  Give me awards!
[00:11:35]  I didn't defame anyone this time.
[00:11:36]  Yeah, exactly!
[00:11:37]  No crimes!
[00:11:37]  Judicious!
[00:11:38]  Judicious!
[00:11:39]  In reality, he's been wrong on a plethora of different things and different directions.
[00:11:43]  He's been wrong in a lot of ways already.
[00:11:45]  I suspect that he doesn't even realize how much of his narrative has changed since Monday and how each time it changed it was because something he made up or misreported fell apart.
[00:11:55]  But it's true that the official story around the shooting was definitely collapsing at this point on the 27th.
[00:12:01]  But it's important to keep a close eye on whose official story Alex is going to take aim at and who he's going to blame.
[00:12:07]  Right, right.
[00:12:07]  There are two big points that Alex touches on here about the story, so I want to get to them one at a time.
[00:12:13]  The first is about police foreknowledge.
[00:12:15]  Alex insists that the police or the FBI always knows about these shooters ahead of time and lets the shootings happen, so it's no surprise for him to say that about this one and connect it to all the other ones that he's made up in the past.
[00:12:27]  For instance, just recently Alex misreported that the Buffalo shooter had been red flagged by the FBI, but that's not something he could demonstrate at all, but it's been accepted as truth.
[00:12:37]  It's become canon within the Info's world because Alex has repeated it enough.
[00:12:41]  In this case, Alex is operating in an interesting space where it's easy to see the optics and just assume that he's right.
[00:12:48]  The Uvalde school district had been using a social media tool called Social Sentinel, which is meant to scour social media and identify threats to teachers or schools in advance.
[00:12:58]  Based on this detail, Alex is making a leap that a lot of people made, which is that this software must have found Ramos and known about his threats in advance, hence providing foreknowledge of the shooting, that it was ignored.
[00:13:11]  Really?
[00:13:11]  That was the way people leapt to that?
[00:13:13]  That's amazing.
[00:13:14]  I think I did see a lot of people leap into that conclusion on Twitter.
[00:13:18]  Amazing.
[00:13:19]  Maybe not people who...
[00:13:21]  I wouldn't give that to the media saying that.
[00:13:26]  I do think I heard that opinion thrown around.
[00:13:28]  No, that's amazing because the moment I found out about that, I was like, oh, obviously that doesn't work.
[00:13:36]  Well...
[00:13:36]  I mean, I don't know if anything could more obviously have been a scam.
[00:13:40]  Well, it may or may not be.
[00:13:42]  I don't know enough about the software to say, but I do know why...
[00:13:47]  It wouldn't have worked in this case.
[00:13:50]  And that is that the software only works when there are threats made to the school, or they're made publicly by people associated with the school.
[00:13:57]  J.P. Golbet, who is the CEO of Social Sentinel's parent company, told Vox's publication, Recode, quote, We are not currently aware of any specific links connecting the gunman to the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District or Rob Elementary on any public social media sites.
[00:14:15]  You see, Ramos was somebody who you could identify as a danger online, but this software wouldn't notice because it's not designed to just flag every sketchy person around.
[00:14:25]  The threat that Ramos had made to shoot up a school was done in a private message that this tool wouldn't have access to.
[00:14:32]  Of course, there were plenty of warning signs online.
[00:14:34]  for instance, is threatening women constantly.
[00:14:37]  Sure.
[00:14:38]  But that's not what Alex is talking about.
[00:14:40]  He's talking about direct foreknowledge on the part of the authorities, which is not established.
[00:14:44]  Right.
[00:14:44]  And is just another one that'll go on the pile of things that he just repeats.
[00:14:48]  Yep.
[00:14:49]  The second point Alex brings up is that the police went in to get their children while not allowing others to do the same.
[00:14:55]  I'm not sure exactly what Alex is referring to or if he has any specifics, but the person who did go in and get their kids was Anjali Gomez, who Alex does mention as the woman who forced her way past the police.
[00:15:08]  That was a totally fucked up situation, as the police had cuffed her for being uncooperative and then let her loose, at which point she ran into the school.
[00:15:16]  It's just horrifying to imagine being left with no other viable option, having been more or less abandoned by the people who are meant to help.
[00:15:24]  It's just terrifying.
[00:15:26]  That said, her kids were in two different classrooms, neither of which were the two classrooms which Ramos was holed up in.
[00:15:32]  Right.
[00:15:33]  Which doesn't make anything any different.
[00:15:34]  It's just to be clear.
[00:15:35]  It's just there.
[00:15:36]  Yeah.
[00:15:37]  There were rumors going around social media that police went in to get their kids, but there isn't any really solid evidence of this past misreported details.
[00:15:46]  Yeah.
[00:15:46]  For instance, there was a Border Patrol officer who aided in the evacuation of students whose daughter was hiding in the bathroom in the school.
[00:15:53]  So obviously he hoped to get his child out, but that was part of a larger goal of getting out as many kids as possible.
[00:16:00]  Right.
[00:16:00]  So there's some miscommunications around...
[00:16:02]  Stuff like that.
[00:16:03]  Right.
[00:16:03]  That I believe is being extrapolated further.
[00:16:07]  Sure.
[00:16:07]  At least with the information that you can know now.
[00:16:09]  Who knows?
[00:16:10]  Yeah, I know.
[00:16:11]  I mean, I heard that the cops went in and got their kids, but I found it just at least a little bit like, I'm going to need evidence of that before.
[00:16:19]  Because that's too good.
[00:16:22]  That is one of those Rogan moments where you go, that's too on the nose.
[00:16:26]  Right.
[00:16:27]  Maybe take a step back from that one.
[00:16:29]  Yeah, it's...
[00:16:30]  From what I understand, the kernel of that, basically, the Snopes article, let's say, about this, traces that to a Sean King tweet that used a clip from a local news person interviewing a police representative.
[00:16:49]  And they said that the police were trying to get their kids out.
[00:16:54]  Sure.
[00:16:54]  And that could refer to things like...
[00:16:58]  Parents who happen to be police who are helping with the evacuation.
[00:17:02]  Yeah.
[00:17:02]  Not necessarily like, I'm going solo on this thing.
[00:17:06]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:17:06]  And like Ms. Gomez did.
[00:17:09]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:17:09]  No, I don't.
[00:17:10]  That's part of why I kind of didn't buy it is because I don't think any of the cops have the courage that this woman has.
[00:17:19]  So there are some details that Alex has that are a bit off.
[00:17:24]  And they were in a shootout with him for 12 minutes outside and waited for backup and waited for body armor.
[00:17:32]  And I'm not saying I'm the toughest guy around, but I mean, I've taken guns away from people two times that pulled them on me, and I've taken knives away from people, and I just...
[00:17:42]  I'm not saying that the police are cowards nowadays, but they're so programmed to wait for orders that more and more you see this type of crap.
[00:17:52]  So this is definitely not accurate, but there's no reason for Alex to know that on the 27th.
[00:17:57]  Right.
[00:17:57]  That day, there was a Wall Street Journal article with the headline, quote, Ramos arrived at the school at 11.28 a.m., and on May 26th, the Texas Department of Public Safety had claimed that he entered the school itself at 11.40.
[00:18:18]  A more detailed timeline was presented the next day, with the time he entered the school being 11.33.
[00:18:24]  Okay.
[00:18:24]  Based on details that have come out, the latter time seems accurate, but by the time Alex is on air, the officially announced information would lead someone to think that he was outside the school shooting for 12 hours.
[00:18:34]  Right.
[00:18:36]  Right, right, right.
[00:18:50]  Well, I mean, you know.
[00:18:51]  That would be a very simple thing to follow up on.
[00:18:54]  Cops have to keep track of how many bullets they fire.
[00:18:57]  That is true.
[00:18:58]  So, if there was a shootout, we would know almost immediately.
[00:19:02]  That's true.
[00:19:03]  And, you know, based on surveillance information and stuff like that, the timeline is something that is not super difficult to nail down.
[00:19:12]  Yeah.
[00:19:13]  But it was inaccurate as of the 26th.
[00:19:16]  Right.
[00:19:16]  The 27th is when that colonel from the Texas Department of Public Safety gave the press conference.
[00:19:24]  Right.
[00:19:25]  That laid out a lot more of the information.
[00:19:27]  And that has not happened as Alex is beginning the show.
[00:19:31]  Gotcha.
[00:19:32]  I'm trying to be...
[00:19:34]  It's overly fair.
[00:19:35]  Right, right, right.
[00:19:36]  Even though we decided to throw that out on our last episode when Alex had the Blackwater guy on giving inside info.
[00:19:42]  There is that.
[00:19:42]  But, you know.
[00:19:43]  What are you going to do?
[00:19:44]  I've been accused many times and will, again, of being too fair or too generous to Alex, but what's the point if you don't?
[00:19:52]  Yep.
[00:19:52]  Anyway, Alex doesn't think this is a false flag.
[00:19:55]  Good.
[00:19:56]  Sort of.
[00:19:57]  But he has changed his mind on something.
[00:19:59]  Okay.
[00:20:00]  And so I think it was a false flag.
[00:20:01]  I think somebody secretly shot the kids and it wasn't him.
[00:20:04]  No, I don't think the evidence points towards that.
[00:20:06]  But a definite stand-down in not apprehending him before and then letting him do this, and then having a 12-minute shootout with him and letting him go in the building, they should have stormed in after his ass.
[00:20:16]  We'll be right back.
[00:20:17]  Stay with us.
[00:20:17]  So Alex has a number of stand-down possibilities that he has.
[00:20:23]  We've already heard consistently since Monday's episode, there's not a stand-down here.
[00:20:27]  There was no stand-down.
[00:20:29]  There was first the hero cop who went in and took care of business right away.
[00:20:35]  And then that didn't work out.
[00:20:37]  And so you had, it was a hostage situation.
[00:20:40]  So there's not a stand down until now.
[00:20:44]  Now there's a stand down.
[00:20:45]  Right, right, right.
[00:20:46]  And then there's multiple stand downs.
[00:20:48]  Because they didn't get him before, because Alex believes that they had the social media monitoring they would have known.
[00:20:55]  Sure.
[00:20:55]  And then there's the further...
[00:20:59]  element of a stand-down, which he doesn't go too hard on, but he does touch on a couple times in this episode, and that is the bit of information about a school shooting being threatened years ago by some juveniles in Uvalde, and people speculating that it was, in fact, Ramos.
[00:21:16]  Sure, but they don't, yeah.
[00:21:18]  Well, no, it actually had already, by this point...
[00:21:21]  Officials have come out and said it is not the same person.
[00:21:24]  It's not connected.
[00:21:25]  So Alex is using the sort of image of that as like they had an opportunity to know about this then.
[00:21:31]  Sure.
[00:21:31]  They had the social media.
[00:21:32]  They refused to do something.
[00:21:34]  Right.
[00:21:34]  And then there was a stand down here.
[00:21:35]  So it's sort of a try stand down.
[00:21:37]  So is he...
[00:21:39]  I mean, how is it that he's straddling the line between incompetence and pre-planning?
[00:21:45]  You know?
[00:21:45]  Like, if they know about him in advance...
[00:21:48]  Yeah.
[00:21:49]  If they were there and didn't stop him, and then continued until he had murdered a bunch of people, then that can't be anything other than consent, right?
[00:22:02]  On the cops?
[00:22:03]  Or incompetence?
[00:22:05]  I think incompetence might be where he lands, but sort of like a benevolent incompetence.
[00:22:10]  Like, hey, this is...
[00:22:12]  We did our best, we meant to do well, and we're sorry.
[00:22:16]  That seems to be a bit where he lands as we go through this episode.
[00:22:21]  But to answer your question from a normal perspective, it's difficult to understand how it would not be...
[00:22:29]  If you believe the things that Alex is saying.
[00:22:32]  Yeah.
[00:22:32]  And that's a challenge, but I think the way that Alex usually gets around that, which actually wouldn't work here, is that the feds are the ones who know, whereas the local folk, they don't know.
[00:22:45]  They're useful idiots.
[00:22:46]  They're being kept in the dark.
[00:22:47]  And usually the stand-down is the higher-ups, the brass.
[00:22:50]  And that's trying to protect them from getting, and also to stop the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:22:55]  The brass will tell the lower-down and local folk.
[00:23:00]  when they would act normally because the higher-ups and the feds are protecting these asset drone killers And not being like...
[00:23:20]  All cops are malevolent or incompetent.
[00:23:23]  Alex could be like, they've been so conditioned to stand down by the feds over and over and over again letting these things happen.
[00:23:31]  And they kind of have to.
[00:23:32]  That they just assumed they're supposed to stand down.
[00:23:34]  You gotta follow commands.
[00:23:35]  So in effect, it's basically Alex's fault.
[00:23:39]  Interesting.
[00:23:40]  Yeah.
[00:23:41]  I'm not following your total train of logic.
[00:23:45]  But hey, man, look, we can't dwell too long on this because...
[00:23:48]  The Nuge is going to be on later.
[00:23:51]  I can't believe that.
[00:23:51]  Again.
[00:23:52]  So much Nugent.
[00:23:53]  Man.
[00:23:54]  Ted Nugent and his lovely wife, Shemaine, called me this morning.
[00:23:58]  We had a nice discussion about the situation in the world, to put it in a friendly way.
[00:24:02]  A very upset, very informative NRA board member.
[00:24:07]  And obviously icon of American freedom.
[00:24:10]  He's going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour and he was just laying out the history and reminding me of all these shooters that psychologists and psychiatrists knew were going to do it and police knew they were going to do it and nothing was done.
[00:24:21]  And then so many times it turns out there are FBI informants or globalist leftist connected groups that are hyping up these lunatics.
[00:24:30]  We know that's gone on.
[00:24:32]  Sure.
[00:24:32]  And it's mainstream news today.
[00:24:35]  Buffalo News, Fox News, authorities investigating a retired federal agent knew a Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance and was reportedly communicating digitally, online, and the reports are encouraging.
[00:24:51]  That's the report, not confirmed.
[00:24:52]  But the FBI confirms they're investigating.
[00:24:54]  What in the hell is a retired federal agent doing talking to the 18-year-old autistic lunatic?
[00:25:02]  not bashing autistic people's lunatics, but, you know, autistic kids, they were saying, and then out of his mind on top of it, that went there and killed those 10 innocent black people while they were buying groceries.
[00:25:12]  Here's a real easy answer.
[00:25:14]  What is this retired federal agent doing talking to this racist kid?
[00:25:18]  What do you think?
[00:25:19]  He's a racist.
[00:25:19]  Yeah.
[00:25:22]  That's the important detail that Alex seems to be missing.
[00:25:25]  What do you think this retired federal agent was saying to this kid?
[00:25:28]  The things I say?
[00:25:29]  The federal agent was retired, too.
[00:25:32]  He wasn't acting in his capacity as a federal agent.
[00:25:34]  He wasn't investigating this kid.
[00:25:36]  He was engaging in racist forums.
[00:25:38]  Yeah, he was just being a big, giant racist.
[00:25:39]  Yeah, like, Rob Dew's uncle is a former federal agent, but you wouldn't say that he was acting in an official capacity when he was going to, like, Wolfgang Halbig seminars and helping Infowars spread Sandy Hook conspiracies.
[00:25:51]  Wouldn't say that.
[00:25:51]  It's the same dynamic here.
[00:25:53]  Yep.
[00:25:53]  According to law enforcement sources, a racist retired federal agent was an individual who interacted with the shooter online, sharing racist shit.

=== Retired Agent's Invitation (03:38) ===

[00:26:01]  Yeah.
[00:26:02]  Allegedly, he became one of the people who was given access to the shooter's plans and target 30 minutes prior to the shooting, but even according to the reporting on this in the Buffalo News, quote, the news could not determine if the retired agent accepted the invitation.
[00:26:17]  So, there was a racist retired agent who was invited to know about the shooting in advance, but there's no proof yet that he accepted the invitation, so he might not have even known in advance himself.
[00:26:27]  Sure.
[00:26:27]  Basically, the solid details we have here so far revolve around the existence of a retired federal agent who is hanging out on racist websites a whole lot.
[00:26:36]  That's fucked up, but it doesn't really prove foreknowledge on the part of the authorities before the shooting, which Alex is trying to use this to bolster credibility for.
[00:26:44]  I would love for him to give these examples of psychiatrists and psychologists or leftist globalist groups having the foreknowledge and prodding, because I don't think most cases stand up to that.
[00:26:59]  I mean, I don't even know.
[00:27:02]  So...
[00:27:05]  Right, right, right.
[00:27:16]  trying to say that there was this influence and like the FBI was basically or the federal agent let's assume FBI right right was he planned Plant, who was encouraging this guy to do the shooting, he was coaxing him to do it, on behalf of the Fed globalists.
[00:27:35]  Right.
[00:27:35]  And so that must mean that there is somebody in the background we haven't discovered in the Uvalde case.
[00:27:39]  Right.
[00:27:40]  That's the goal.
[00:27:41]  Exactly.
[00:27:42]  But, again, that comes down to eventually, like, they were in on it, right?
[00:27:46]  Like, sooner or later, you all get back to, they were in on it.
[00:27:50]  Whoever they may be, you know, in this kind of situation.
[00:27:54]  Right.
[00:27:55]  I think that one of the things that we need to maybe do a better job of is understanding that yes, that is always the case.
[00:28:03]  Good point, good point.
[00:28:04]  My bad, my bad.
[00:28:05]  This one's on me.
[00:28:06]  I was getting too into this headspace of he's saying this isn't a false flag, so we have to treat it like he's saying that.
[00:28:12]  But in honesty, he is saying it's a false flag.
[00:28:15]  Well, he wants to.
[00:28:18]  Right, right.
[00:28:18]  And eventually, when there's enough pieces of information for him to craft that, he will.
[00:28:24]  It'll get there.
[00:28:24]  Yeah.
[00:28:25]  And I think you see the pivoting towards that on this episode more than you have in the episodes prior.
[00:28:31]  Well, that's why I'm asking you these.
[00:28:34]  Yes.
[00:28:40]  So...
[00:28:43]  Yeah.
[00:28:43]  Yeah.
[00:28:44]  I mean, one of his old things was, like, if something gets attention from the media, then it's not real.
[00:28:51]  Because, you know, you don't give media coverage to real terrorism.
[00:28:55]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:28:56]  It inspires more terrorism.
[00:28:57]  Of course.
[00:28:58]  And so that was sort of a guiding principle for him, is that because the globalists also control the media, if they are covering something and paying attention to it, then it must either be fake or they made it happen through...
[00:29:11]  Witchcraft.
[00:29:12]  Right.
[00:29:12]  Once again, they're all in on it.
[00:29:15]  Yeah.
[00:29:16]  Everyone but Alex.
[00:29:18]  And the good cops on the ground.
[00:29:20]  Yeah.
[00:29:21]  Nothing narcissistic about that.
[00:29:22]  Nope.
[00:29:24]  So, Alex, this just hit me wrong.

=== Arming Teachers: The Only Solution? (13:20) ===

[00:29:29]  Meghan Merkle, the fake royal, visits Uvalde to lay roses at Texas School Shooting Memorial.
[00:29:35]  What an opportunistic pig.
[00:29:38]  Okay.
[00:29:39]  Wow.
[00:29:39]  Seems.
[00:29:40]  That's probably because she's the royal family.
[00:29:44]  It's because he doesn't like the royal family specifically.
[00:29:46]  I'm sure it's royalty that is his main issue.
[00:29:49]  I know he doesn't like the royalty, but it does seem a little...
[00:29:54]  What's specific about a person?
[00:29:56]  I can't think of anything.
[00:29:57]  And you know what?
[00:29:58]  I think that...
[00:29:59]  I don't know.
[00:30:00]  I didn't follow Megan's adventure too closely.
[00:30:04]  Sure.
[00:30:04]  But from what I was looking at, it seemed like she was trying to keep it real low-key.
[00:30:09]  I did not make things about herself.
[00:30:11]  Volunteered for a day.
[00:30:12]  The fact that I had no idea about it kind of says good things about that.
[00:30:17]  Right.
[00:30:17]  I had no idea she was involved with anything, so good news.
[00:30:20]  You know what I think?
[00:30:21]  I think that Alex's wife's tennis partner is just really into suits.
[00:30:28]  He's annoyed by suits.
[00:30:30]  Yeah, that could be.
[00:30:31]  Yeah, I feel like that's shitty and just doesn't...
[00:30:33]  That's just a dick thing to say for no reason.
[00:30:36]  Yeah.
[00:30:37]  And I hate royalty, so we're there.
[00:30:40]  Sure.
[00:30:41]  Well, are they technically royalty anymore?
[00:30:43]  I think they step down, right?
[00:30:45]  Well, that's a good point.
[00:30:46]  Alex is on...
[00:30:47]  Alex isn't even on...
[00:30:49]  Alex is on the side of royalty shitting all over Megan.
[00:30:52]  So there's that.
[00:30:53]  So yeah.
[00:30:54]  That's true.
[00:30:54]  He's back to the wall.
[00:30:57]  Maybe Alex just wants more seasons of Suits.
[00:30:59]  Could be.
[00:31:00]  Everything goes back to suits.
[00:31:02]  Maybe the tennis partners.
[00:31:03]  So, at this point, one of the big points that's being spread is that the police didn't go in because they were afraid to get shot.
[00:31:12]  And so Alex talks about this, and honestly, I feel like this is one of the few instances where his anger feels real.
[00:31:18]  Yeah.
[00:31:19]  There's a different feeling to this.
[00:31:21]  Okay.
[00:31:22]  Texas Police Lieutenant.
[00:31:23]  Says cops were reluctant to engage government because they could have been shot.
[00:31:27]  This is what's truly disgusting.
[00:31:30]  And who goes up there from the state police spokesperson and makes a statement like that?
[00:31:36]  Even if it's true, it just is outrageous.
[00:31:42]  And I'm sure it is true.
[00:31:43]  So you're scared to get shot?
[00:31:45]  So there's kids getting killed?
[00:31:47]  Yeah, if some dude's in a cave who robbed a bank.
[00:31:51]  And he's up there with high-powered rifles.
[00:31:53]  Let him sit there for a month until he starves and comes out.
[00:31:57]  Don't go in and get killed.
[00:31:59]  Over, you know, $20,000 he steals, hypothetically.
[00:32:02]  But when there's children in a school that you are sworn to protect, I don't care if the letter of the law says it's not your duty to.
[00:32:11]  You have a duty as a man to go in there.
[00:32:16]  It's disgusting!
[00:32:19]  And I'm surprised.
[00:32:20]  That the armed citizens that almost stormed the building didn't attack the police.
[00:32:25]  And I'm glad they didn't.
[00:32:26]  But this is going too far.
[00:32:28]  We got a whole system wants to disarm the people.
[00:32:30]  We got all the scumbag politicians with their own bodyguards.
[00:32:32]  And they want to tell us that we can't have guns to protect ourselves.
[00:32:35]  Then they take our tax money with property taxes and make our children go to public school.
[00:32:40]  Most people can't pay for private school.
[00:32:42]  Most people got to work two jobs.
[00:32:43]  They can't homeschool.
[00:32:44]  You send your children in one of these damn places to get killed.
[00:32:47]  And the police sit there with their thumbs up their asses.
[00:32:50]  Excuse me.
[00:32:51]  All right.
[00:32:53]  We're going to come back with all of it and the stand down video.
[00:32:56]  And just makes my blood boil.
[00:32:58]  I think Alex is constantly full of shit, so I never really want to ascribe sincerity to him, but that kind of felt a little realer than other times he's yelled.
[00:33:08]  I mean, the real lesson of that is just how shitty.
[00:33:13]  The situation is that even Alex will say a reasonable thing.
[00:33:19]  Well, yeah, I think that there's something really remarkable about what he's saying that's kind of right, because he's trying to derail things down this anti-public school road and this, like, they want your guns but have armed security kind of talking points, but overall, I don't know if I disagree with that much about what he's saying.
[00:33:40]  The issue is that Alex doesn't have any solutions to these problems that underlie the problems that he's touching on that kind of have some accuracy.
[00:33:48]  If you try to investigate the police departments, that's a globalist plot to federalize the police.
[00:33:54]  Any attempt to address poverty that might help people who can't afford education or whatever, that's just a globalist attempt to make everyone dependent on the state so they can kill everyone off.
[00:34:05]  the only concrete solutions Alex has come up with since the shooting are to arm teachers and vanquish the devil yep seeing as the second one is meaningless arming teachers is kind of all he's got here you just keep everything the same but arm the teachers so we're left living in exactly the same unpleasant world with no solutions but when things go bad teachers will have to kill This isn't a solution.
[00:34:29]  No.
[00:34:29]  This is dumb.
[00:34:30]  It's just more dead people.
[00:34:31]  Right, but even...
[00:34:32]  Or even slightly fewer dead people is not an optimum outcome.
[00:34:36]  Yeah, it's just bizarre that, yeah, there are those moments where you can kind of feel like, yeah, you're touching on something real here, and your anger seems to come from a place of, like, sincere passion about, like, how wrong the...
[00:34:54]  The situation people find themselves in are, but you got nothing.
[00:34:58]  Yeah, I mean, it's...
[00:35:00]  Okay, so I agree with you.
[00:35:02]  That is genuine.
[00:35:04]  That felt genuine.
[00:35:06]  And it was reasonable.
[00:35:09]  I just don't fucking care if you get angry enough at the problem that it's genuine and real, and then at the end of the day, you go home and you say, well, I love guns more than I love my kids, so fuck them.
[00:35:23]  That is part of the problem.
[00:35:25]  Yeah!
[00:35:26]  I mean, that sounds like the type of...
[00:35:28]  And that's where the overarching unreasonability within the reasonability comes in.
[00:35:32]  And that's why it's kind of difficult to ever really swallow too much of the, like, wow, that feels like he's coming from a real place.
[00:35:39]  Because it's like, well, who cares?
[00:35:40]  The day that tomorrow he's going to say, I'll kill anybody who gets in the way of my guns, including my own kids.
[00:35:46]  It doesn't matter.
[00:35:47]  Well, you know who's gonna be coming for guns later?
[00:35:50]  Oh my god.
[00:35:52]  Mitch McConnell.
[00:35:52]  But we'll get to that in a minute.
[00:35:53]  Do you know...
[00:35:54]  I'm gonna tell you this.
[00:35:55]  I'll tell you this one thing, because it just popped into my head, finally, about Ted Nugent, is in the...
[00:36:00]  Wango Tango?
[00:36:01]  In the lyrics to Wango Tango?
[00:36:03]  In the early 2000s, late 90s, there was like this flash game where you would play as a reindeer.
[00:36:09]  Right?
[00:36:10]  And it was a reverse of the hunting games.
[00:36:12]  You had to escape Nugent?
[00:36:12]  No, it was the reverse of the hunting games.
[00:36:14]  You know, you'd have a person call.
[00:36:16]  So the reindeer would be hunting people, would be hunting hunters.
[00:36:19]  Okay.
[00:36:20]  And one of the, like, hunter calls, you know, like a deer call, like that thing, would just be some guy going, Who wants to meet the Nuge?
[00:36:29]  And it has finally reappeared in my brain that that...
[00:36:35]  20 years ago is now a thorn in my fucking side until I die.
[00:36:40]  So there we go.
[00:36:42]  And if you're in that game and you're a reindeer trying to lure the nuge himself, you could just yell, I'm underage!
[00:36:53]  Well done.
[00:36:55]  Alex plays a clip here of the cop discussing some of the tactics.
[00:37:01]  This just goes in a weird direction.
[00:37:04]  Next segment, I'll play the whole clip so it's in context, but here is the DPS spokesperson saying they're afraid to get shot.
[00:37:10]  Here it is.
[00:37:12]  They do not know where the gunman is.
[00:37:14]  They are hearing gunshots.
[00:37:16]  They are receiving gunshots.
[00:37:17]  At that point, if they proceeded any further not knowing where this suspect was at, they could have been shot.
[00:37:24]  They could have been killed.
[00:37:25]  And at that point, that gunman would have the opportunity to kill other people inside that school.
[00:37:30]  And now, the kids are dead.
[00:37:34]  Again, they're overthinking all of this.
[00:37:37]  And I don't think that guy's a coward.
[00:37:38]  I'm sure the police that stood down in real life aren't cowards.
[00:37:41]  I do.
[00:37:42]  They're not going with their instincts.
[00:37:45]  They're not going.
[00:37:47]  And I found that in people that can even be physically strong and can train in fighting all day long.
[00:37:52]  But when they really get in a fight, they don't have the instincts to go for the jugular.
[00:37:55]  And they hold back.
[00:37:56]  They don't turn it loose.
[00:37:58]  And politically, culturally, we've got to start turning it loose, getting in the left's face, not backing down, not submitting, and not being cowards.
[00:38:07]  That's how we've gotten in this position.
[00:38:11]  And how they sinned.
[00:38:12]  50-something billion dollars to Ukraine now.
[00:38:16]  Hell, it's about 60 billion.
[00:38:17]  What does that have to do with anything?
[00:38:18]  I have no idea.
[00:38:19]  Just throw that in there.
[00:38:20]  It just doesn't make sense what's happening here.
[00:38:24]  This is somehow the left's fault and they're sending money to Ukraine, but no one's manly enough to go for the jugular.
[00:38:30]  And they're still harming elephants in circuses, you know?
[00:38:33]  It's just one of those things where it's just one-to-one the same exact situation.
[00:38:39]  Yeah.
[00:38:39]  Yeah.
[00:38:40]  So, I told you earlier.
[00:38:42]  There's a rogue gun grabber on the loose.
[00:38:45]  Do you remember who I said?
[00:38:45]  Mitch McConnell.
[00:38:46]  That's right.
[00:38:47]  Oh, shit!
[00:38:48]  McConnell pushes gun control with Dems and 10 other House Republicans.
[00:38:52]  I mean, unbelievable.
[00:38:56]  And just like every time, they knew it.
[00:38:59]  They knew he was planning a mass shooting.
[00:39:01]  They knew he was mentally ill.
[00:39:02]  But we don't have mental institutions anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:39:06]  Only you got a bunch of money.
[00:39:08]  You got good insurance or whatever.
[00:39:10]  They'll put you in a mental institution for no reason.
[00:39:11]  But if you don't, you're going to be on the street, which is more the argument for us to be armed.
[00:39:17]  Ah, the notorious gun grabber Mitch McConnell is up to his old tricks.
[00:39:21]  Oh, man.
[00:39:22]  Mitch McConnell, who has an A-plus ranking from the NRA.
[00:39:25]  I mean, I don't know.
[00:39:27]  There should be a higher ranking.
[00:39:29]  Like, he just gets to own the NRA.
[00:39:32]  Part owner.
[00:39:33]  Like Nugent.
[00:39:34]  He's a board member.
[00:39:34]  Yeah, exactly!
[00:39:35]  He's a board member!
[00:39:35]  So, in talking about mental health here, it's remarkable how Alex, again, can identify a problem, express that problem, then suggest a completely idiotic solution.
[00:39:45]  There are mental hospitals, but you can only afford them if you have a lot of money, because insurance often doesn't cover that kind of care.
[00:39:51]  And thus everyone needs guns.
[00:39:53]  Yep, that solved it.
[00:39:54]  Essentially what Alex is doing is accepting that there's nothing that can be done to make the world better.
[00:39:59]  The only solution is to be able to protect yourself from violence by enabling yourself to commit defensive violence.
[00:40:05]  It's taken for granted that insurance doesn't cover much mental health care and that these sorts of inpatient centers are out of reach for most people, which is nonsense.
[00:40:14]  We can do better.
[00:40:15]  The government has the ability to change regulations on the insurance industry to cover these kinds of things.
[00:40:20]  We have the ability to allocate public funds to the creation for affordable mental health care centers.
[00:40:27]  There are so many things we can do that aren't just get a gun and get ready to kill people who come to hurt you.
[00:40:32]  That's nonsense.
[00:40:33]  What Alex's ideology does here is basically condemn anyone who needs access to mental health care to not getting it.
[00:40:41]  He's decrying how there's a crisis in mental health care in the country so he doesn't have to talk about guns.
[00:40:45]  But when the rubber meets the road and he needs a suggestion of how to address the crisis, it's just guns.
[00:40:51]  He's an idiot.
[00:40:52]  This is stupid.
[00:40:53]  And it's actually painfully blind.
[00:41:00]  Blind to possibilities.
[00:41:02]  I mean, it's unfortunately the most common point of view.
[00:41:06]  It's pessimistic.
[00:41:07]  It's...
[00:41:09]  I mean, what is it?
[00:41:10]  Borders on nihilism?
[00:41:12]  It doesn't matter.
[00:41:13]  I mean, that's the problem with the whole thing.
[00:41:16]  It doesn't matter what governmental officials are responding to this with because their solutions are just avoid the actual problem.
[00:41:23]  Every single fucking people, every single person who studies this shit and spends their...
[00:41:28]  All of their time doing this is like, if you want to reduce crime, invest in the neighborhood!
[00:41:34]  Improve people's lives!
[00:41:36]  Don't murder them!
[00:41:38]  And every time, it's like, here's what we do.
[00:41:40]  What we do is we hire more murderers to murder them.
[00:41:44]  Now, but here's the thing.
[00:41:46]  Like, those people who are saying these experts and stuff, you know, like...
[00:41:51]  What's nice about their position is that there's a possibility of improvement, of hope.
[00:41:58]  It's nice.
[00:41:59]  This is the thing that is essential to me about Alex's point.
[00:42:04]  There is no point in doing anything other than arming yourself to the teeth to defend yourself from the people who aren't getting the care that they need and end up, I guess, hurting you.
[00:42:16]  That's useless.
[00:42:19]  That's not...
[00:42:22]  It's somebody who's already living in Mad Max.
[00:42:25]  Yes.
[00:42:25]  It's somebody who's already like, listen, I don't care that I can go to the grocery store.

=== Coin Debate Sucks (15:20) ===

[00:42:30]  I'm going to steal your oil, fill up my murder car, and drive a thousand miles to get away from this world.
[00:42:35]  It's giving up because the philosophical and political positions that Alex carries end up in that place anyway.
[00:42:45]  Yeah.
[00:42:46]  It's against my own rules to solve the problems that I'm so mad about.
[00:42:51]  Right.
[00:42:51]  So I can't.
[00:42:52]  Right.
[00:42:52]  Sorry.
[00:42:53]  And it's pathetic.
[00:42:54]  It is real sad.
[00:42:55]  Now, even sadder, Alex is selling this coin, right?
[00:42:59]  Oh, my God.
[00:43:00]  And it's a gun coin.
[00:43:01]  Oh, my God.
[00:43:01]  It's a gun-themed coin.
[00:43:03]  Today?
[00:43:04]  Yeah, but look, it's not related.
[00:43:06]  It's a coincidence.
[00:43:07]  Great.
[00:43:08]  We have thousands of FBI agents and thousands of U.S. attorneys and assistant attorneys running around harassing January 6ers, many of which walked in peacefully, instead of the collapsing border, the child smelling, all the rest of it.
[00:43:19]  Now, I'm going to go ahead and tell you about something very important.
[00:43:24]  We did not have this planned for this big Second Amendment event.
[00:43:31]  We are proud of the Second Amendment.
[00:43:33]  It's just an interesting, interesting...
[00:43:36]  Parallel that's happening right now.
[00:43:38]  So coincidental.
[00:43:39]  We had this coin designed over six months ago, minted three weeks ago, delivered to our offices on Monday.
[00:43:48]  While the shooting's going on, in pulls the truck from the mint.
[00:43:54]  Did we learn anything from this?
[00:43:56]  Nope.
[00:43:57]  Nope.
[00:43:57]  And it's, I believe it's a coincidence.
[00:44:01]  Sure.
[00:44:02]  I mean, how do you get that many coins that fast?
[00:44:04]  It's tacky.
[00:44:07]  Maybe, maybe, just maybe, if this coincidence happened to, you know, you're like, oh my god, this truck has come in with these gun coins on the day of a horrific shooting at a school.
[00:44:22]  Yeah.
[00:44:22]  Maybe you hold off on selling those.
[00:44:25]  They shelve movies for a long time if it's going to be released on the wrong time.
[00:44:31]  Big Trouble was supposed to come out right around 9-11.
[00:44:34]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:44:35]  Did not come out.
[00:44:36]  Didn't wind up happening.
[00:44:37]  Quite a while.
[00:44:38]  They re-released Big Trouble in Little China.
[00:44:41]  Also, the Dave Barry version of Big Trouble in Little China.
[00:44:45]  Yeah, I think you sit on these coins for a bit.
[00:44:49]  You got $8 million coming in from Bitcoin.
[00:44:51]  You don't need to price gouge your fucking people with these dumb silver coins.
[00:44:57]  Like, this is so distasteful.
[00:45:00]  Commemorate.
[00:45:01]  And the part, too, that's like, he has to stress this over and over again.
[00:45:05]  Like, hey, look, it was not supposed to be...
[00:45:08]  Like, we didn't time this because of the...
[00:45:10]  Great.
[00:45:12]  Great.
[00:45:12]  You're still doing it, though.
[00:45:14]  You could not do it.
[00:45:15]  Yeah, you're doing...
[00:45:16]  You can choose to not.
[00:45:17]  Yeah, you're doing the thing that is offensive.
[00:45:20]  I mean, because the other answer, if you're saying that I can't not do it, then what you're saying is, it is more important for my bottom line that I do this horrific, monstrous thing.
[00:45:32]  Well, and think about, like, after a shooting, probably...
[00:45:35]  More eyes on me!
[00:45:37]  And more sales of a...
[00:45:39]  Gun Second Amendment themed coin because people feel like the Second Amendment's under attack.
[00:45:44]  If somebody murders a lot of people, it's important to buy a coin commemorating the weapon they did it with.
[00:45:49]  Fucking sucks.
[00:45:50]  And he should...
[00:45:53]  I mean, yeah.
[00:45:54]  Anyway, someone else who sucks, Ted Nugent, is on.
[00:45:57]  Who wants to meet the Nuge?
[00:46:00]  Not me.
[00:46:01]  No.
[00:46:01]  Being a suspicious American, and rightly so in this horrible, horrible treachery of 2022 where Uncle Sam is clearly the enemy of America, and that breaks my heart to have to say that, but the executive, the legislative, the judicial branches, they are now one big gang.
[00:46:22]  Your friends have control over all of them!
[00:46:25]  What are we doing?
[00:46:27]  So that's the anger and the atmosphere that I'm speaking from right now.
[00:46:31]  If anyone is a suspicious American, it's Ted fucking Nugent.
[00:46:35]  I suspect him of a lot.
[00:46:36]  I suspect of him quite a bit.
[00:46:39]  That stupid asshole, too.
[00:46:40]  He expects me to just forget about the...
[00:46:42]  Decade of him saying that the government was the enemy of America during Obama's presidency.
[00:46:47]  I can't believe that Uncle Sam is the American enemy.
[00:46:50]  It pains me so much to say this.
[00:46:52]  I have only wanted to murder and explicitly said I would like to multiple presidential candidates slash presidents.
[00:46:59]  Obama, suck on my rifle.
[00:47:01]  Yeah!
[00:47:01]  I can't believe that this dark day would come when Uncle Sam is no longer the bright, shining city on the hill.
[00:47:09]  It takes so much.
[00:47:11]  For Ted to get to that place.
[00:47:14]  Man.
[00:47:14]  We're really minimizing it and, you know, hey.
[00:47:17]  Oh, I can't believe we would, you know, really undercut his strong feelings about this.
[00:47:23]  Fuck that guy.
[00:47:24]  Also, they'll spend money on invaders.
[00:47:26]  Go fuck yourself.
[00:47:27]  Oh my god.
[00:47:28]  Ted.
[00:47:29]  I can't.
[00:47:30]  Anyway, Ted wants people to learn from what happened.
[00:47:34]  I would be fine if they gloated.
[00:47:36]  I would be happier.
[00:47:37]  In fact, I would be happier if the right gloated about controlling every aspect of the government.
[00:47:42]  That would be nice.
[00:47:43]  That they're still bitching about it is so infuriating.
[00:47:47]  But that's part of the gaining and retaining their control.
[00:47:49]  That's how you have to do it.
[00:47:50]  No, no, no.
[00:47:51]  I know it's the plan.
[00:47:52]  No, it's not how you have to do it.
[00:47:53]  Well, it's not how you have to.
[00:47:54]  It's how they're doing it.
[00:47:55]  It seems like an effective way to do it.
[00:47:57]  Right, right, right.
[00:47:58]  It's not the way you have to.
[00:47:58]  No, you could do it by improving people's lives.
[00:48:00]  That would be nice.
[00:48:01]  That would be good.
[00:48:02]  Anyway, Ted wants people to learn.
[00:48:03]  There's a number of dynamics going on here, and I think we've got to push with all of our might regarding the Uvalde incident.
[00:48:12]  There's all kinds of pre-information that we're discounting.
[00:48:16]  There's all kinds of evidence from the past that we seem to be ignoring and discounting.
[00:48:22]  We need to get to the bottom of this because you're my only goal.
[00:48:26]  A conscientious citizen of America's only goal.
[00:48:29]  What did we do wrong?
[00:48:31]  Let's not ever do anything wrong again.
[00:48:34]  Let's have quality control instead of scrambling for damage control.
[00:48:40]  The ultimate irony here is that what Ted is doing on Alex's show is 100% an effort at damage control.
[00:48:46]  There are two things he's trying to cover, which are guns and inappropriate police responses.
[00:48:52]  He doesn't want to talk about those things too much because he's a gun fetishist and because reviewing the police response won't end up providing ammunition for him to use against the federal government, who he wants to attack because he sees them as a threat to the guns for which he is a fetishist.
[00:49:06]  Also, 90% of the audience that Ted has at this point have some strong connections to law enforcement.
[00:49:12]  So turning on them would be death for whatever career he has left.
[00:49:16]  Yeah.
[00:49:16]  Anybody who still wants to go hear Wango, Ty.
[00:49:18]  That's a cop!
[00:49:21]  The effort to construct a narrative where the feds or the FBI had foreknowledge of the attack, which is what Ted is touching on here, is an attempt to carry out damage control, but it's being presented as some kind of an exercise in critical thinking.
[00:49:34]  Ted's a pathetic creep, and honestly, he has nothing to say that's worth listening to.
[00:49:38]  This guy is just the fucking worst.
[00:49:40]  Yeah.
[00:49:40]  And see, that's why that distinction of, like, the feds had this knowledge and the people on the ground are good is important, because Ted's got to keep his audience.
[00:49:48]  He can't turn on...
[00:49:49]  Of course.
[00:49:50]  But you can turn on these higher-ups.
[00:49:53]  Oh, yeah, you never know.
[00:49:54]  It's the deep state thing all over again.
[00:49:56]  It's those faceless people who will never exist.
[00:49:59]  Those are the people whose fault it is.
[00:50:01]  That way we don't have to deal with the problem.
[00:50:04]  So if you thought for a second that Ted has anything that you need to hear him say, you don't.
[00:50:09]  But this is kind of fun.
[00:50:11]  Well, as you've known, I've always been in the vortex, the whirlwind of the...
[00:50:19]  Freedom debate in the world of entertainment because they have to take the devil's advocacy point of view to debate me because I'm Michael the Archangel with truth, logic, common sense, and all the evidence to support everything I stand for, everything I believe in, everything I say, the way I live.
[00:50:36]  Yeah.
[00:50:36]  He's Michael the Archangel of logic and truth.
[00:50:40]  Wow.
[00:50:40]  This guy's nuts.
[00:50:42]  Like, at my peak...
[00:50:45]  I could touch 90. And I'm going to have to train for a long time.
[00:50:50]  But when I get back there, I hope to meet Ted Nugent.
[00:50:54]  Unreal.
[00:50:55]  Unreal.
[00:50:56]  If he's not on coke, someone's got to distill his blood because it'll be a new drug.
[00:51:02]  Ah, man.
[00:51:03]  I don't know how...
[00:51:06]  I mean, the delusion doesn't even come close to the words.
[00:51:10]  Yeah.
[00:51:10]  It's insane.
[00:51:11]  I mean, there's just an outrageous level of narcissism, delusion of self.
[00:51:17]  No, there's a German word that is a paragraph long that explains Ted Nugent.
[00:51:22]  That has to be the case.
[00:51:23]  So I was listening to Ted's interview here, and one of the things that I really came away with was he seems like he's so much madder at people like Beto than he is at the shooter.
[00:51:38]  And the police?
[00:51:40]  Not mad at them nearly as much as he is at Beto and Michael Moore, apparently.
[00:51:46]  Let's take on the ultimate representative of the anti-self-defense, the devaluing of the sacred gift of life from God, Beto punk-ass O 'Rourke.
[00:51:59]  Let's just use that guy as the ultimate spokesman, him and Michael Moore.
[00:52:05]  What?
[00:52:05]  How?
[00:52:05]  How perfect is the debate?
[00:52:07]  Surrounded by bodyguards.
[00:52:09]  Surrounded by bodyguards.
[00:52:10]  They want our guns.
[00:52:11]  He's got an animatedness to his anger at them that does not seem to be present.
[00:52:18]  Even talking about the person who just killed 21 people at a school.
[00:52:24]  You know that you are angry at the documentarian who made a movie about the most famous school shooting.
[00:52:34]  20 years ago.
[00:52:36]  You're wrong.
[00:52:37]  The end.
[00:52:39]  You're wrong.
[00:52:41]  I would be mad at him.
[00:52:43]  It would be reasonable for Ted Nugent to be mad at him if that documentary had led to gun control.
[00:52:51]  Then I could see, oh yeah, we should be mad at Michael Moore.
[00:52:54]  I mean, from his point of view.
[00:52:55]  Obviously, I'm not.
[00:52:56]  If it had worked, I think I would be mad just because Michael Moore shouldn't have that much power.
[00:52:59]  No, the look that I had on my face was like, that's a totally good point.
[00:53:04]  Like, Michael Moore did everything he could.
[00:53:06]  Yep.
[00:53:06]  He shot his shot.
[00:53:07]  Yep.
[00:53:08]  Did fucking nothing.
[00:53:10]  It did not end up in the Orwellian totalitarian gunless state that he imagined.
[00:53:16]  Just stop being mad at Michael Moore.
[00:53:18]  You beat him.
[00:53:19]  You, like, murder.
[00:53:20]  Murdered Michael Moore's dream of being valuable to society.
[00:53:24]  Nah.
[00:53:24]  Fuck you.
[00:53:25]  Ted Nugent doesn't have much else to take shots at.
[00:53:28]  Yeah, that's fair.
[00:53:29]  So he's talking about France, whether or not they have Kalichnikovs.
[00:53:37]  And here's what I bring up on these interviews I do every day.
[00:53:41]  So do you think...
[00:53:46]  Do you think a citizen of France can get a gun?
[00:53:51]  Do you think the banning of guns by French citizens has done any good when...
[00:53:58]  Actual Kalashnikovs, real AK-47s, machine guns, were used in Paris, France to attack a rock and roll concert.
[00:54:06]  How did that ban work out?
[00:54:10]  Following that logic that Ted has, and I only bring this up because he's the Archangel Michael and champion of common sense and logic.
[00:54:17]  Truth and facts, got it all, everything backs it up.
[00:54:18]  He should allow AK-47s at all his shows.
[00:54:20]  If banning guns didn't do anything to stop this one shooting in France, then certainly he would view all gun prohibitions as being useless.
[00:54:27]  But he doesn't think that.
[00:54:28]  Yeah, I think it should actually be a requirement based on his beliefs to have a gun at a show.
[00:54:33]  Or, at very least, it should be a requirement that he only plays venues that allow you to bring rifles.
[00:54:40]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:54:40]  Ted is about to go on tour, and his first date is at the Beth Deckard Hall in Florida, and they have a blanket prohibition against any kind of weapons.
[00:54:48]  Like, not even knives you can even bring in.
[00:54:50]  Then I think Ted Nugent fans should boycott his shows until they're allowed to bring guns.
[00:54:54]  Otherwise, they don't believe in any of their...
[00:54:56]  Do you think your Kalichnikov doesn't want to hear cat scratch fever?
[00:55:00]  Absolutely!
[00:55:01]  Oh, man!
[00:55:03]  Ted's probably got guns on stage.
[00:55:04]  Of course he does, because he needs them as props to threaten Democratic politicians.
[00:55:08]  So we've got, what?
[00:55:09]  I mean, he could probably draw 200 people at this point.
[00:55:12]  Probably.
[00:55:13]  You want to have 200 people with machine guns at your shows.
[00:55:16]  Safest way to perform.
[00:55:17]  Safest way.
[00:55:18]  What if a good guy with a gun shows up?
[00:55:19]  His next date is at the Florida Theater in Jacksonville, which also prohibits the carrying firearms.
[00:55:25]  And all weapons also.
[00:55:26]  Again, all weapons.
[00:55:27]  That's crazy.
[00:55:28]  I got tired of looking through his venues and really the case from 2018 tells you all you need to know where he and his management specifically told the venue in Virginia not to allow guns in.
[00:55:38]  He's a malicious creep who doesn't live by any of the prescriptions he demands society take on because he knows that he's really rich and he can afford to protect himself from the threats that his ideal society implies.
[00:55:50]  Yep.
[00:55:50]  He sucks.
[00:55:51]  Yep.
[00:55:51]  I fucking hate this dude.
[00:55:53]  And his music's bad.
[00:55:54]  Yeah, it's real bad.
[00:55:55]  It is the...
[00:55:57]  I mean, there's no other way to look at it now other than to say...
[00:56:02]  Ted Nugent would prefer you live in a murder-filled hellhole, and he gets to live on his compound with really nice guns, than he would if he got to live on his compound with really nice guns, and you got to live!
[00:56:15]  He gets to live on his compound with all the guns and everything and all that stuff, and you don't live in a murder hellscape.
[00:56:21]  What you live in is a world where everyone is armed to the teeth, and that's the only way anyone can ever feel safe.
[00:56:29]  Right.
[00:56:29]  We all basically just live with guns to you.
[00:56:32]  You assure safety by never letting your gun down.
[00:56:38]  It does feel like that's the direction the states are headed, right?
[00:56:42]  Like, we could go the gun control route, or we could go the mandatory gun route.
[00:56:47]  Yeah.
[00:56:48]  I mean, Alex even talks about how he misinterprets the Switzerland rule of people having to have a gun.
[00:56:54]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:56:55]  I mean, that's basically what they would say.
[00:56:58]  I mean, arm the teachers.
[00:56:59]  It's a prescription.
[00:57:00]  They want everybody to...
[00:57:02]  Then you've got a principal, so you need to arm the principals.
[00:57:05]  And then the principal...
[00:57:06]  Well, one of the teachers gets shot outside.
[00:57:08]  What if you have a bad teacher with a gun?
[00:57:08]  What if you have a grocery store?
[00:57:10]  What if the teacher's at the grocery store?
[00:57:12]  Some bad guy with a gun shows up there.
[00:57:14]  The teacher can't do anything.
[00:57:15]  He gets shot along with it.
[00:57:16]  What do you do?
[00:57:17]  You arm grocery store employees.
[00:57:19]  You arm the deli.
[00:57:20]  Exactly!
[00:57:21]  Then you go from there until eventually everyone is armed.
[00:57:24]  We have to take another step back, though.
[00:57:26]  What's that?
[00:57:26]  What if you have a bad teacher with a gun?
[00:57:28]  The only thing that stops that, good student with a gun.
[00:57:30]  Good student with a gun!
[00:57:31]  You gotta arm the students.
[00:57:32]  Every single one of those students.
[00:57:34]  Uh-huh.
[00:57:34]  Yeah, and then if a teacher starts teaching critical race theory, boy, you got all kinds to save your days.

=== Alex's Unlikely Target (15:20) ===

[00:57:39]  Now what are we gonna do with the pets?
[00:57:40]  Arm the class pets.
[00:57:42]  How do we arm the pets?
[00:57:43]  We give them gun mounts on their- It's like dino riders.
[00:57:46]  Yeah, we can put little guns on their collars.
[00:57:48]  Then they can run forward and go pew, pew, pew.
[00:57:50]  It's the only way to be saved.
[00:57:51]  It's the only way.
[00:57:52]  So we got shots fired at Michael Moore, Beto O 'Rourke, but someone else is getting a little flack, maybe unexpectedly.
[00:58:00]  Uh-oh.
[00:58:00]  Alex, let me emphasize it in the most glaringly obvious way.
[00:58:05]  Lee Greenwood, great, great patriot.
[00:58:08]  He abandoned the number one civil rights organization, the family grassroots civil rights organization of the NRA.
[00:58:17]  Because of a shooting in Uvalde, Lee Greenwood won't sing his patriotic music at the Civil Rights Organization of the NRA.
[00:58:24]  That is a virtue-signaling crime.
[00:58:28]  Let's elaborate on that.
[00:58:29]  The country was founded when the Brits came to take the guns.
[00:58:32]  He knows that.
[00:58:33]  I love Lee Greenwood.
[00:58:34]  What?
[00:58:34]  I'm sorry, what?
[00:58:35]  Bring that up.
[00:58:36]  Explain this.
[00:58:37]  He is abandoning the NRA event.
[00:58:39]  This is disgusting.
[00:58:41]  Disgusting.
[00:58:42]  It's really this scourge, this spiritual suicide of political correctness.
[00:58:49]  Oh, this politically correct Lee Greenwood.
[00:58:51]  Can you hear yourself?
[00:58:53]  He is no longer proud to be American.
[00:58:55]  Does he hear the words he says?
[00:58:56]  I can't believe that after a shooting, he would abandon the NRA!
[00:59:02]  And it's my understanding that the reason that he canceled was because of the shooting, but also like...
[00:59:08]  He had agreed to sing, I think it was at a past year, but the NRA conventions have been cancelled for two years because of COVID.
[00:59:15]  And so he contractually was still going to be singing at this one.
[00:59:19]  And because of the timing, I was like, I'm not doing that.
[00:59:21]  Fuck you!
[00:59:23]  I think that was the case with a number of people.
[00:59:25]  Like Don McClain cancelled too.
[00:59:27]  Yeah.
[00:59:27]  But why would you?
[00:59:29]  It's a bad idea.
[00:59:30]  Don't go sing.
[00:59:31]  Don't go sing at the NRA.
[00:59:32]  There's no point.
[00:59:33]  What are you going to get?
[00:59:34]  That's not enough money.
[00:59:36]  You're Don McClain.
[00:59:37]  We will not gladly stand up next to you, Ted.
[00:59:40]  No, the music has died all over again, Dan.
[00:59:43]  So one of the things that I think is the most sad thing that you ever hear from people is like, you know, the Ben Shapiro debate me AOC kind of stuff.
[00:59:52]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:59:53]  It's real pathetic.
[00:59:54]  And that's why we were sort of making a joke out of it with the demanding Rand Paul debate you.
[01:00:00]  And we even lost interest in that joke.
[01:00:02]  Oh, I got so bored with it.
[01:00:04]  We lost interest like two weeks into it, and every now and then I get somebody's like, okay, that's fine.
[01:00:09]  It's really fun when we were actually able to keep track of the days.
[01:00:14]  But I always find that to be a sign of someone I think less of when people are demanding someone debate them.
[01:00:23]  Oh, God.
[01:00:24]  And I didn't think it was possible for me to think less of Ted.
[01:00:27]  Oh, no.
[01:00:28]  Beto O 'Rourke, debate me, you!
[01:00:30]  Michael Moore, debate me.
[01:00:33]  I'll even supply you a washcloth and soap and explain what soap is to Michael Moore.
[01:00:38]  Michael Moore is a demon.
[01:00:40]  Beto O 'Rourke is a stone skateboarding hippie.
[01:00:43]  They represent the anti-gun side, which means they're against self-defense.
[01:00:48]  They're against God-given individual rights.
[01:00:50]  Debate me, you punks!
[01:00:53]  Go back to challenging people to fistfights.
[01:00:55]  At least then you have an equal shot.
[01:00:57]  Yeah, or I'll see you at the town square at dawn.
[01:01:00]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:01:01]  We'll do a charity boxing event or something.
[01:01:04]  Or a duel.
[01:01:05]  Oh, yeah.
[01:01:06]  A duel would be way more appropriate.
[01:01:08]  Beyond brand new.
[01:01:09]  You're gun morons.
[01:01:10]  Shoot people.
[01:01:11]  Don't...
[01:01:12]  Talk like the idiots you are.
[01:01:14]  I can't fucking imagine anyone wanting to debate someone like Ted Nugent either.
[01:01:17]  Or Alex even.
[01:01:19]  Just like, okay, do I want to get yelled at about a bunch of nonsense?
[01:01:23]  Do I want everything I say to be taken completely off track?
[01:01:27]  Right, right, right.
[01:01:28]  Sounds fun.
[01:01:28]  No, imagine you don't know who Ted is.
[01:01:31]  You just signed on to this debate thing, right?
[01:01:34]  And they're just bringing random guests for you to debate.
[01:01:37]  Uh-huh.
[01:01:38]  Right?
[01:01:39]  Like the chaser.
[01:01:41]  And then Ted Nugent gives his opening statement, and you listen to that man talk.
[01:01:47]  Find a reason to continue staying there.
[01:01:50]  Well, because you want to best the Archangel Michael of truth.
[01:01:54]  I would listen to him talking and be like, I don't like the way you talk.
[01:01:57]  I don't like what you're saying.
[01:02:00]  You seem unwell.
[01:02:02]  Absolutely!
[01:02:02]  Your adjectives are all over the fucking place.
[01:02:05]  I'm out of here.
[01:02:06]  You seem like Gary Busey who didn't have head trauma and aren't a recovering addict.
[01:02:12]  Which means you're worse than Gary Busey.
[01:02:14]  At least he has a reason.
[01:02:16]  I would say that I think that Ted just wants to debate...
[01:02:20]  These people because of clout chasing.
[01:02:23]  Yeah, I would like attention, please.
[01:02:24]  Because there's a ton of people who are maybe more obscure in the mainstream who are like, you know, Twitch debaters or whatever.
[01:02:31]  They'd take a shot at Ted Nugent.
[01:02:33]  Yes, for sure.
[01:02:34]  Give me a Ted Nugent.
[01:02:35]  I'll take a Ted Nugent.
[01:02:36]  Because they would be clout chasing for Ted Nugent.
[01:02:38]  Exactly.
[01:02:39]  So if you really want somebody to debate him, I bet he'd get his ass kicked.
[01:02:42]  It is.
[01:02:43]  Some of those nerds.
[01:02:45]  It is a little bit watching him forward.
[01:02:48]  Doing InfoWars and being at different, varying levels of entertainment clout-chasing abilities is like, just seeing how minor, like, oh, I gotta, you know, that kind of thing, and then it just keeps scaling upwards.
[01:03:01]  It doesn't matter how high you go, there's somebody to clout-chase even higher.
[01:03:05]  Yeah.
[01:03:06]  Like, it just never ends.
[01:03:07]  Yep.
[01:03:08]  Stop chasing clout.
[01:03:09]  So, Alex goes to break here, and he's got some big news.
[01:03:12]  Breaking news.
[01:03:13]  So, yes, I'm passionate because I'm being flooded with righteous passion.
[01:03:19]  Exactly.
[01:03:19]  Stay there.
[01:03:19]  You want to protect people.
[01:03:21]  Ted Nugent, we're doing five more minutes.
[01:03:22]  If you want to come back Monday for a full hour, we love you.
[01:03:25]  We'll come back for five more minutes.
[01:03:26]  But we just got big news from Uvalde.
[01:03:29]  Huge news.
[01:03:29]  Huge news breaking.
[01:03:31]  Who ordered the stand-down?
[01:03:32]  It's now confirmed.
[01:03:33]  A stand-down was ordered.
[01:03:34]  So we got a confirmation that a stand-down was ordered, and Alex knows who it is, and we're going to break that fucking news.
[01:03:39]  Okay.
[01:03:40]  Big news.
[01:03:40]  Does he know?
[01:03:41]  He comes back from break, and here's what he's got.
[01:03:43]  The Uvalde School District Chief of Police has admitted that they ordered the stand-down, they had the jurisdiction, and told the state police, Border Patrol, and local police not to go in.
[01:03:56]  He just admitted it on TV.
[01:03:58]  They're getting the clip.
[01:03:59]  Right now, it's breaking all over the news right now.
[01:04:02]  Disgusting.
[01:04:03]  So the police chief Alex is referring to here is Pete Arredondo, who was the commander on the scene at the shooting.
[01:04:09]  The clip that Alex is so excited about is the press conference that the head of the Department of Public Safety, Colonel Stephen McCraw, is holding while Alex is on air, where he explains that Arredondo believed that the situation had changed from an active shooting to a barricaded suspect, which is why the police didn't storm in.
[01:04:26]  This isn't really the same thing as ordering a stand down.
[01:04:29]  It's more a situation of a very costly misjudgment.
[01:04:32]  The stand downs in Alex's world involve the feds having knowledge of the facts and ordering the police not to stop the thing that they know is happening.
[01:04:41]  The available information in this case doesn't match that at all, but there are enough details that look right if you squint to where Alex can bluff his way through labeling this a stand-down, and then once the label is caught on, that's all the audience is going to remember, and because how that word is used on Alex's show, they'll associate it with the standard stand down talking points.
[01:04:59]  Right.
[01:04:59]  You'll be able to sort of color this with...
[01:05:03]  Memories of past narratives.
[01:05:05]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:05:06]  When you say little things, then the audience has the full image evoked in their mind.
[01:05:12]  So you've got this little self-contained kind of thing, and all of a sudden it goes into a larger diorama.
[01:05:17]  Yeah.
[01:05:18]  And once you get that thing to apply to something you associate it...
[01:05:22]  You're never getting it out.
[01:05:23]  Yeah.
[01:05:23]  So we've got to stand down here.
[01:05:24]  It's been admitted.
[01:05:25]  It's been admitted.
[01:05:27]  Yeah.
[01:05:27]  And Alex will just throw that on the pile of bullshit associations he's made.
[01:05:33]  So, the Nuge.
[01:05:35]  Gotta go.
[01:05:36]  Gotta go hunting.
[01:05:38]  And so we got another guest.
[01:05:40]  Roger.
[01:05:41]  Every single thing we said, right here on InfoWars, has turned out to be true.
[01:05:47]  The entire Russian collusion hoax was a fabrication that went all the way to Hillary Clinton.
[01:05:53]  She authorized it.
[01:05:55]  She knew about it.
[01:05:56]  And the real question, it seems to me, after the...
[01:06:01]  Trial in D.C. Polonium poisoning?
[01:06:03]  Unleashes bombshell after bombshell.
[01:06:05]  Twice.
[01:06:05]  Twice.
[01:06:05]  Why is Mr. Durham going for the low-hanging fruit?
[01:06:08]  In other words, Sussman, Michael Sussman, the Clinton attorney, appears to me to be a patsy, a fall guy, the sacrificial lamb.
[01:06:19]  Man, it's got a sting for Roger that Durham's low-hanging fruit in the form of the Sussman case turned out to be a dud.
[01:06:26]  That was the fall guy and the patsy, and Durham couldn't even secure a conviction there.
[01:06:30]  Man.
[01:06:30]  And Sussman got acquitted.
[01:06:31]  If that's your fall guy that gets acquitted, you suck.
[01:06:35]  It's got to sting even more, considering that Sussman was acquitted of lying to the FBI, which is what Roger was convicted of and would probably still be in jail for if Trump hadn't pardoned him.
[01:06:45]  Anyway, big picture, I can't imagine caring less about this Durham shit that Roger's on to talk about.
[01:06:49]  It is less than irrelevant to me.
[01:06:52]  How could you actually...
[01:06:54]  Continue talking about that, right?
[01:06:56]  Like, on that day, you just power through?
[01:07:00]  It seems really weird that Alex has confirmed that there was a stand-down.
[01:07:06]  Yeah.
[01:07:06]  And there's this breaking, important news story.
[01:07:10]  Stay on it!
[01:07:10]  Instead of, you know, working some stuff out, talking angles, like, you know...
[01:07:15]  He goes to Roger to talk about how Sussman is low-hanging fruit in the Durham case, which turns out to be too much.
[01:07:21]  Too much for Durham to handle low-hanging fruit.
[01:07:24]  Well, I mean, Durham really couldn't handle low-hanging fruit.
[01:07:27]  Apparently not.
[01:07:28]  No, that's true.
[01:07:29]  So one of the things that I think I need to make crystal clear is that most of Roger's interview is, you know, a lot of it is about January 6th stuff, but not really anything substantial.
[01:07:41]  It's really trying to make sure that people know That Alex isn't a snitch.
[01:07:47]  And here's a clip of that.
[01:07:49]  They don't want us questioning when they try to steal it again.
[01:07:53]  And so we've gotten the calls.
[01:07:54]  Hell, I've already seen the articles in the last few weeks.
[01:07:56]  Jones is going to expose Trump.
[01:07:59]  I didn't talk to Trump for over a year before this happened.
[01:08:02]  Trump didn't direct us.
[01:08:02]  It's all a lie.
[01:08:03]  So when people see Jones as a stool pigeon, Jones is going to expose it all.
[01:08:07]  It is 100% a fraud and a lie.
[01:08:12]  And burn in hell those that are saying it.
[01:08:14]  It is 100% cut and dry.
[01:08:18]  That's precisely why I wanted to bring it up and clear the air.
[01:08:22]  Okay, so he snitched for sure.
[01:08:24]  Consider the air cleared.
[01:08:26]  That's a snitch right there.
[01:08:27]  No, I think it's still just responding to the idea that Alex said on his show that he was going to talk to the feds and everybody if they would give him immunity.
[01:08:40]  And then people covered him saying that.
[01:08:43]  And then he did the plead the fifth a hundred times.
[01:08:45]  No, that was before.
[01:08:46]  Oh, that was before?
[01:08:47]  Yeah, that was before.
[01:08:49]  But then he was like, oh, everyone's saying that I agreed to go and talk to them if I got immunity, which does kind of look like you have something to hide.
[01:08:58]  I mean, you say you have a story to tell that you want immunity for, so you committed a crime and you want to tell on the people you committed a crime with.
[01:09:06]  But Alex is very clear that he's like, I'll only go and talk.
[01:09:11]  I don't have anything to tell them, but I will talk to them if they give me immunity so they can't set me up in a perjury trap.
[01:09:17]  Sure, sure.
[01:09:17]  Or something like, you know, that's what he says constantly.
[01:09:19]  But I think that he's still just responding to stories surrounding that.
[01:09:24]  Because at this point, we're still a ways off from today's, as we're recording this, the January 6th stuff coming out, and the Proud Boys have not been re-indicted again.
[01:09:39]  Not yet.
[01:09:39]  So I think that this is just like dealing with some segment of Alex's audience that thinks that he snitched.
[01:09:49]  Yeah.
[01:09:50]  I mean, I think it's reasonable to think that he snitched.
[01:09:53]  I don't think that he has much to snitch about, maybe.
[01:09:56]  That, I think, is also a reasonable thought to have.
[01:09:59]  I take no position on this at this point.
[01:10:04]  Yeah.
[01:10:05]  But yeah, I think it's reasonable if you're in Alex's audience and you think that everything's a conspiracy and you're suspicious of everything, then in that case, I think it's reasonable to think that he snitched.
[01:10:14]  How could you not think that he snitched?
[01:10:16]  I'm amazed that you could trust him.
[01:10:19]  You know, like, this is a dude who knows shit.
[01:10:22]  His buddies were involved.
[01:10:24]  Well, you've been through a lot with him.
[01:10:27]  That's true.
[01:10:28]  You kind of just say, you built up faith, trust.
[01:10:31]  That's fair.
[01:10:33]  It's not.
[01:10:33]  Nope.
[01:10:34]  So Roger is a former InfoWars employee.
[01:10:37]  He worked on The War Room, where he hosted with the cuck destroyer Owen Schroyer.
[01:10:41]  Yes.
[01:10:42]  When Owen was his puppet.
[01:10:44]  Right.
[01:10:44]  And Roger complains on this episode that, you know, because of this political persecution that he went through, He lost his job at Infowars.
[01:10:54]  Oh, no.
[01:10:55]  Which I immediately thought, like, well, Alex could easily just give it back now.
[01:10:59]  Well, Alex has a policy where he doesn't hire convicted felons.
[01:11:03]  Is that true?
[01:11:04]  I don't think so.
[01:11:05]  Probably not.
[01:11:06]  I think, first of all, Alex can't afford him.
[01:11:09]  Second, I don't think Alex wants him back.
[01:11:13]  No!
[01:11:13]  Really?
[01:11:14]  What's he bringing?
[01:11:15]  Owen can stand on his own two feet now, whereas at the beginning of the War Room...
[01:11:19]  You're probably not going to be able to get many people interested in an Owen Shroyer show.
[01:11:23]  So you dangle the Roger Stone co-host thing there, even though he didn't actually co-host most of the time.
[01:11:28]  Nope.
[01:11:30]  Roger's not coming back to InfoWars.
[01:11:31]  No.
[01:11:32]  But he has another gig.
[01:11:33]  What's his live?
[01:11:34]  What's the best website for folks to visit and find your, frankly speaking, show everything you're doing?
[01:11:39]  Well, my new show, The Stone Zone, is available at frankspeech.com every weekday from...
[01:11:47]  4 Central, 5 Eastern.
[01:11:49]  You can go to FranksBeach.com on Lindell 2. If you want to help me and my family in our epic struggle for freedom, you can go to Stone Defense.
[01:12:00]  InfoWars has made history.
[01:12:03]  Plug cut off.
[01:12:04]  So close.
[01:12:05]  Almost finished it.
[01:12:07]  Stone Defense.
[01:12:08]  What?
[01:12:08]  How does it end?
[01:12:10]  Some would hear that as disrespectful.
[01:12:13]  I'm not mad at the crew.
[01:12:14]  He's on Mike Lindell's shit now.
[01:12:17]  He's got The Stone Zone.
[01:12:19]  But I think that was the name of his old show.
[01:12:21]  Yeah.
[01:12:21]  I think that might have even been the name of the show that he did with Travis Irvine, the comedian that we know.
[01:12:26]  Oh, yeah?
[01:12:27]  Either that or The Stone Cold Truth, because those two shows are the names of the shows that I'm aware of that he's had in the past.
[01:12:34]  Yeah.
[01:12:35]  But yeah, Stone Zone.
[01:12:36]  Oh, man.
[01:12:37]  That is the right move for Roger.
[01:12:40]  Mike Lindell money?

=== Shadowbanned Conspiracy (14:36) ===

[01:12:41]  Absolutely.
[01:12:42]  Just take that money.
[01:12:43]  Coast.
[01:12:45]  Who cares about viewers?
[01:12:46]  They're not going to be like, oh, your numbers are down.
[01:12:50]  Get the fuck out of here.
[01:12:51]  That's what you do.
[01:12:52]  You scam them for your money and you move on.
[01:12:53]  Scam the shit out of Mike Lindell is a good move.
[01:12:56]  Yep.
[01:12:56]  Totally.
[01:12:58]  Depending on how much you have to worry about about January 6th.
[01:13:02]  That's really the line that I don't know what he has to worry about.
[01:13:07]  But if he's in the clear, yeah.
[01:13:08]  Lay low.
[01:13:09]  Scam Mike Lindell.
[01:13:11]  Absolutely.
[01:13:12]  Try and finesse your associations with Infowars to the back of people's memories.
[01:13:17]  Maybe rebrand a little bit.
[01:13:19]  Then take your shot at a step up.
[01:13:21]  That's what you gotta do.
[01:13:23]  But for now, you scam Mike Lindell for sure.
[01:13:25]  It's a low period.
[01:13:27]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:13:28]  Low-hanging fruit!
[01:13:29]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:13:30]  So that's good.
[01:13:32]  Can't imagine ever...
[01:13:35]  Listening to that show.
[01:13:36]  No, I'd rather die.
[01:13:38]  Secondarily, I was thinking about this.
[01:13:39]  I don't even know really what Frank's Speech is.
[01:13:43]  I know it's a website of some sort.
[01:13:45]  I thought maybe it was a social network.
[01:13:47]  Wait, it's Frank Speech.
[01:13:48]  Yeah.
[01:13:49]  I 100% heard Frank's Beach.
[01:13:51]  Oh, no, no.
[01:13:53]  I was like, what is he doing on FranksBeach.com?
[01:13:57]  Taking a dip.
[01:14:02]  Yeah.
[01:14:02]  I was like, that does make sense for a Mike Lindell website, though.
[01:14:06]  But what I'm saying is I've never been to the website.
[01:14:08]  Right.
[01:14:09]  And so I don't know what it looks like.
[01:14:10]  I don't know if it's an aggregator of, like, content.
[01:14:13]  I'm going to look it up right now.
[01:14:15]  Do it.
[01:14:15]  This is breaking on air.
[01:14:20]  Frank's Beach.
[01:14:20]  Going to franksbeach.com.
[01:14:22]  We're going to get some boards.
[01:14:25]  Okay.
[01:14:25]  So we got some podcasts.
[01:14:29]  Oh, yeah, I see that.
[01:14:30]  We got a flash sale on pillows.
[01:14:32]  Oh, of course.
[01:14:34]  Okay, so these are the podcasts.
[01:14:36]  We got the Ledger Report with Graham Ledger.
[01:14:39]  Oh, man, that would have been better with the Ghost of Heath Ledger.
[01:14:41]  The Matrix Show Live Groove.
[01:14:44]  What?
[01:14:45]  Diamond and Silk have a podcast.
[01:14:46]  Oh, yeah, well, that makes sense.
[01:14:48]  Strong, strong.
[01:14:48]  What do they talk about?
[01:14:49]  I don't know who any of these people are.
[01:14:51]  Oh, Ivory Hecker.
[01:14:53]  She was, I think, at the Blaze and then maybe left.
[01:14:57]  And then Alex was trying to get her for a while, I think.
[01:15:01]  Ooh, Shemaine!
[01:15:02]  Ted Nugent's wife.
[01:15:03]  Oh, shit!
[01:15:03]  Shemaine is on there!
[01:15:04]  Well, there we go.
[01:15:06]  Yeah.
[01:15:06]  Ted Nugent's QAnon wife.
[01:15:08]  Oh, man.
[01:15:09]  I wonder what her numbers are.
[01:15:12]  Yeah, who knows?
[01:15:13]  I bet they're disturbingly good.
[01:15:15]  I bet she gets like $1.2 billion.
[01:15:18]  I would be surprised.
[01:15:20]  That would be great if she was stealthily the most famous of all of the people involved.
[01:15:26]  Whoa.
[01:15:27]  Okay, so he's got TV.
[01:15:29]  Mike Lindell has a TV section.
[01:15:32]  There's TV 1 and TV 2. Does he have two channels?
[01:15:37]  He's got two channels.
[01:15:39]  How much money can you spend?
[01:15:42]  Pete Santilli, Alex's buddy, and Stuart Rhodes' enemy.
[01:15:45]  Yeah.
[01:15:46]  He's got a show on Frank's speech here.
[01:15:48]  I mean, I didn't think Mike Lindell was that rich.
[01:15:52]  Stewie Peters?
[01:15:53]  Yeah.
[01:15:54]  Steve Bannon's Wool Room is on here.
[01:15:56]  I think that means they're...
[01:15:57]  That's gotta be syndicated.
[01:15:58]  I think they just syndicate that kind of stuff.
[01:16:00]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:16:03]  They've got a mixture of like...
[01:16:05]  Original content and it's a player, I bet, that they can sell their own ads on.
[01:16:10]  We got another show here.
[01:16:11]  Let's talk about it with Will Johnson.
[01:16:13]  Let's talk about it!
[01:16:14]  Will Johnson was the guy who used to host Alex's show Firepower Radio along with Tom Papert.
[01:16:21]  I did not know that.
[01:16:21]  They hosted that for a short period of time before it fell apart because no one cared.
[01:16:26]  We'll see how long Lindell 1 and 2 last.
[01:16:29]  I mean, who knows, but...
[01:16:30]  Boy, this is a list of winners.
[01:16:34]  Just a who's who of who's shit.
[01:16:36]  Sidney Powell TV.
[01:16:38]  Okay.
[01:16:39]  All right.
[01:16:40]  Then let's move on.
[01:16:41]  I'm trying to find the bottom of the barrel here.
[01:16:45]  Does the Unabomber have his podcast on there?
[01:16:48]  Might.
[01:16:49]  Does the Unabomber have a podcast?
[01:16:52]  I think he's afraid of technology.
[01:16:54]  He's probably not the type who's gonna get into RSS feeds.
[01:16:58]  Yeah, I bet he's got a four-track, though.
[01:17:00]  This list does not end.
[01:17:03]  That's because it's probably an aggregator, too.
[01:17:06]  Yeah, okay.
[01:17:07]  I have now been to Frank's Beach.
[01:17:09]  You're free!
[01:17:09]  We've been to franksbeach.com.
[01:17:12]  So Roger's appearance is not really all that impactful at all.
[01:17:15]  And so Alex comes back, and he's got some ideas.
[01:17:21]  He has some thoughts.
[01:17:22]  It's not my job to attack the police randomly to curry favor with the leftist media.
[01:17:29]  You know, if you go back to YouTube 20 years ago, when it first started, 18 years ago.
[01:17:35]  I didn't know why a video about the Federal Reserve or a video about world government or a video about GMO would get blocked and censored.
[01:17:44]  It would get shadow banned.
[01:17:46]  That was just invented five years ago.
[01:17:48]  I learned the process.
[01:17:50]  But when I did a video showing a bad cop doing something wrong, they would promote it, they wouldn't block it, it would get 10 million views, 5 million views, 20 million views.
[01:18:01]  Hell, Paul Watson had one with like 80 million views before they deleted it.
[01:18:04]  Thank you.
[01:18:05]  Thank you.
[01:18:09]  And that told me, wait a minute, there's social engineering.
[01:18:12]  Not that police are perfect, but they want to look at their shortcomings, their problems, so they can pressure them and take them over, and now that's all admitted with a strong city initiative to have the UN take over the police.
[01:18:23]  So, I guess what Alex is saying might be the case.
[01:18:26]  Like, early YouTube may have carried out an elaborate plot to hide his videos about weird fringe conspiracy nonsense and then hype up videos covering police abuses.
[01:18:36]  That could be.
[01:18:37]  Or I would suggest that the more likely scenario is that his videos about the Federal Reserve and all that shit wasn't very interesting and no one really cared.
[01:18:45]  Conversely, videos of things like the police attacking protesters at the G8 summit are probably going to be more popular and people will be more interested.
[01:18:52]  A little bit.
[01:18:52]  There is a really simple explanation for the phenomena that Alex is describing.
[01:18:57]  And it's that his intricate conspiracy content was not really all that popular in the earlier part of his career, whereas the easy-to-digest stuff that actually had contact with reality was much more interesting to a wider audience.
[01:19:10]  Seems like he probably learned that lesson.
[01:19:12]  Maybe.
[01:19:13]  There's a reason that for years and years his marketing push was as the 9-11 truth guy and the anti-police state guy.
[01:19:19]  And it's because those topics are fairly universally understandable and things that resonate with people regardless of how invested you are in a conspiracy.
[01:19:28]  You can see in this clip how Alex's brain works.
[01:19:31]  He finds elaborate, meaningless explanations for things that are pretty obvious when that obvious thing kind of works against his sense of self.
[01:19:39]  He would never want to admit that his shit about the Federal Reserve really wasn't that good and didn't interest many people.
[01:19:45]  It had to have been shadowbanned.
[01:19:46]  It couldn't possibly be that people are broadly concerned about police abusing civilians and have an interest in stories like that.
[01:19:53]  It must be that the globalists are artificially pushing those videos so they can demonize the police so they can take them over.
[01:19:59]  None of this shit that he's imagining is real.
[01:20:01]  And when you, as a listener of his show, engage with any of it as if it is...
[01:20:06]  All you're doing is playing around in his imagination.
[01:20:09]  It can be exciting at times, but none of that shit has any validity outside of Alex's head.
[01:20:14]  It's all nonsense.
[01:20:16]  Yep.
[01:20:16]  I mean, at the point where he could be like, oh shit, you've been shadow banned, and then you might...
[01:20:22]  Think that he's so right, you won't even check, and you'll just assume that you've been shadowbanned.
[01:20:26]  You don't even know, right?
[01:20:27]  I can't believe that I've been shadowbanned.
[01:20:29]  I can't possibly have low engagement on things that I put into the world.
[01:20:32]  It must be a plot.
[01:20:33]  Absolutely.
[01:20:34]  No, no, no.
[01:20:34]  There was one thing I did.
[01:20:36]  You remember whenever I was doing that streaming video games for a while there?
[01:20:40]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:20:40]  I have upwards of nine?
[01:20:44]  Whoa.
[01:20:44]  On some of those videos.
[01:20:46]  And it's obviously because YouTube shadow banned me and not because it's inherently boring to watch me play a dumb game.
[01:20:52]  The whole time that I was doing stand-up, if I tweeted things that I thought were really funny, I was shadow banned.
[01:20:58]  Yeah.
[01:20:59]  Never got any traction on any of those tweets.
[01:21:01]  If I didn't get a laugh on one of my jokes, that's because the audience shadow banned that joke.
[01:21:05]  They shadow-eared it.
[01:21:06]  Yeah, and then later on, they would laugh at the next joke, and that's the one that the liberal media was trying to push on them.
[01:21:12]  Totally.
[01:21:12]  Yeah, makes sense.
[01:21:13]  So, Alex has gotten some information from this press conference that the colonel was putting out on...
[01:21:19]  Not Sanders.
[01:21:25]  That one got you.
[01:21:26]  I tried to stay straight.
[01:21:28]  I tried to stay straight on that one, but I couldn't.
[01:21:30]  That one got me.
[01:21:31]  Your timing is still good, Fred.
[01:21:35]  You can't have timing in tweets!
[01:21:37]  You're a shadow band!
[01:21:40]  So...
[01:21:40]  Alex has got some of that information, and part of the information that was put out is Colonel McCraw saying that with all the information that they knew, the decision that was made was wrong.
[01:21:52]  It was a bad decision that was made.
[01:21:54]  Making him an enemy of the cops forever.
[01:21:56]  And Alex has a really interesting way he's processing that.
[01:22:00]  So when I cover the shortcomings of the police and the problems, it's not to undermine the police.
[01:22:08]  But it's not to just be some...
[01:22:10]  Brazen cheerleader who's up there going, well, the left's attacking you, so I'm going to leave you alone.
[01:22:17]  No, Biden has endorsed the police response in Uvalde.
[01:22:23]  Because there's a cover-up, and there's a stand-down, and we have all the videos now.
[01:22:27]  The crew did.
[01:22:29]  We've got like six people in that control room.
[01:22:31]  They're not just running the cameras.
[01:22:32]  They're not just putting up guests.
[01:22:34]  They're not just finding articles.
[01:22:35]  They are, when I say 30 minutes ago, I want you to get in that live press conference.
[01:22:40]  You know how hard that is to find it and get it and get the clips?
[01:22:43]  They had it in 20 minutes.
[01:22:46]  This has been on my desk for 10 minutes.
[01:22:49]  They busted.
[01:22:50]  It's just amazing because I know how the internet works.
[01:22:52]  They have the clips.
[01:22:53]  Sorry, what?
[01:22:56]  Of what really happened on Monday.
[01:22:59]  And the admissions, as the system knows it's coming out, and it is incredibly evil.
[01:23:07]  But the good news is...
[01:23:09]  They admit they're wrong.
[01:23:14]  And that's Texas.
[01:23:16]  What?
[01:23:17]  Wait, what?
[01:23:18]  Because in some leftist place...
[01:23:20]  What?
[01:23:20]  They never were wrong, are they?
[01:23:22]  But with us, we're not perfect, but we admit we're wrong.
[01:23:25]  No!
[01:23:26]  No, no, no!
[01:23:27]  And that's really important.
[01:23:29]  So we're going to come back in just a few minutes after this break.
[01:23:33]  And the state police and others now know...
[01:23:37]  The BS isn't working.
[01:23:38]  I'm not saying there was a cover-up.
[01:23:39]  You said there was a cover-up!
[01:23:42]  They didn't really cover things up, but they went with a certain spin, and now Biden's spinning it, that they did a perfect job.
[01:23:48]  And no, they didn't.
[01:23:49]  Okay.
[01:23:50]  Yeah, that's weird.
[01:23:51]  So, if I understand correctly, it is a cover-up?
[01:24:18]  And they were ordered to stand down.
[01:24:20]  It's not a cover-up.
[01:24:20]  And they're covering up that order to stand down.
[01:24:22]  And it's not a cover-up, but they did lie a lot, and now Biden is covering for them, trying to cover up their lies.
[01:24:29]  It's not a cover-up because it didn't go long enough, apparently.
[01:24:31]  I think that's his point, right?
[01:24:33]  Yeah.
[01:24:33]  But, you know, Alex is saying, you know, it's great because, you know, in Texas you own up to it and stuff.
[01:24:37]  That is true.
[01:24:38]  But we know, because we live in the future, that a couple days after this, the police and Uvalde stopped cooperating with the investigation into the response.
[01:24:45]  Which is way out of line with Alex's idea of how Texans operate.
[01:24:49]  We'll apologize when we're wrong, but if you try and investigate the crimes we do, we will run away and kill you.
[01:24:55]  In Alex's mind, Biden has come out and said that the cops did everything right, which is evidence of a cover-up somehow.
[01:25:01]  Biden is supposed to hate the police, so when he says something positive, it's suspicious.
[01:25:05]  But Biden didn't say that.
[01:25:07]  The White House press secretary said, quote, I know that right now authorities are working to piece together more details of what happened in Uvalde, So we won't prejudge the results from here at this time.
[01:25:31]  That's a pretty sensible and measured response from the press secretary.
[01:25:35]  It probably would be an overstep and an abuse of executive power for Biden to unilateral Usually.
[01:25:46]  But the storyline is that Biden's all in favor of the police and how they responded, and he refuses to question it.
[01:25:52]  So in order to maintain his support of the police and simultaneously be counter to Biden, the best way for Alex to thread that needle is to recognize that the police response wasn't good while focusing on the appearance of repentance on the part of the police.
[01:26:06]  It's kind of brilliant, really, as a way that you can maintain your positions.
[01:26:11]  I mean, yeah.
[01:26:13]  It doesn't hold up.
[01:26:14]  No, absolutely.
[01:26:15]  It's incoherent as shit.
[01:26:16]  Right, and it'll fall apart very quickly.
[01:26:19]  Oh, the moment you look at it.
[01:26:20]  Yeah.
[01:26:20]  But it does sound to somebody who is inclined to already believe everything that you say is genuine that you are like, listen.
[01:26:31]  This is when we need to support the cops more than ever.
[01:26:34]  And that Biden supports the cops shows you that the cops are admitting that they're doing wrong and that's the good thing.
[01:26:39]  And Biden saying that they did right is the bad thing.
[01:26:43]  Yeah.
[01:26:43]  You maintain the positions that are kind of central to what you need to maintain.
[01:26:48]  Yeah.
[01:26:48]  But it's flimsy.
[01:26:50]  Well, it doesn't make any sense.
[01:26:52]  No.
[01:26:54]  And not least of which, because Biden didn't say any of that.
[01:26:56]  No.
[01:26:57]  So we have a really bizarre development, I would say, with the shooting coverage as a whole.

=== Pandemic Shifts and Conspiracies (03:55) ===

[01:27:06]  I think that this episode is where we're getting closest to, like, I think he's about, you know, he's dipping toes much deeper into the conspiracy waters.
[01:27:17]  Oh, yeah.
[01:27:18]  It's no longer a hostage situation, apparently.
[01:27:22]  There's now the standard stand-down talking points and, you know, Nugent's coming in to assume that there's all kinds of foreknowledge.
[01:27:32]  Totally.
[01:27:33]  So we'll see.
[01:27:34]  We'll see what comes of this.
[01:27:36]  But we have one last clip here, and it's, again, much like Roger coming on to complain about Durham.
[01:27:41]  It's like, what are we even doing?
[01:27:44]  All right.
[01:27:44]  She's one of the hardest guests to get on, and out of all the prominent scientists, the individual is exposing the whole COVID police state takeover and the new lockdown.
[01:27:54]  She's at the tip of the spear.
[01:27:55]  Dr. Judy Mikovich worked with Fauci, blew the whistle on him.
[01:27:59]  They came after her.
[01:28:00]  There's been blockbuster films made about it.
[01:28:02]  Lady from Plandemic is on.
[01:28:06]  Great.
[01:28:07]  So...
[01:28:08]  Still doing COVID conspiracies.
[01:28:10]  I think she might be doing a little monkeypox.
[01:28:12]  She's going for the monkeypox now.
[01:28:14]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:28:15]  No, that would make sense.
[01:28:16]  The ambulance-chasing conspiracy theorists are like, well, COVID's done, so what's the next one?
[01:28:21]  Yeah, you know what really would impress me is if these fucks who are going off on the COVID conspiracies and ivermectin and stuff, if front and center in their coverage is like, also.
[01:28:32]  They're weaponizing monkeypox.
[01:28:34]  Yeah.
[01:28:34]  And it was like two years ago.
[01:28:35]  Yeah, that would have blown my head out.
[01:28:37]  Right, like if Plandemic, if half of it was, and what comes next?
[01:28:41]  Yep, yep.
[01:28:42]  It's weird that wasn't the case.
[01:28:44]  No, no.
[01:28:45]  It's gonna suck.
[01:28:47]  It's gonna suck real hard, because to maintain their grift, there now always has to be a pandemic going on.
[01:28:54]  You know?
[01:28:55]  Or a hidden one, or the next, you know?
[01:28:58]  You know what, though?
[01:28:59]  Not really, because...
[01:29:01]  You do tend to notice that...
[01:29:05]  I think that...
[01:29:06]  Okay, here's what I would say.
[01:29:08]  I think the COVID pandemic obviously brought a lot of maybe new grifty types into the fold.
[01:29:14]  Sure.
[01:29:14]  There are some people who aren't legacy conners, con artists.
[01:29:18]  Right, right, right.
[01:29:19]  But you do seem to notice a trend that, hey, it's weird.
[01:29:24]  A lot of these same people are floating around to all of the things that everyone's mad about.
[01:29:29]  They just kind of transition from this thing to that thing to this thing to that thing.
[01:29:34]  It's like every time Alex introduces somebody, they've got a new expert label compared to the last two years they were on.
[01:29:41]  Mike Adams is a health ranger, but all of a sudden he knows everything about deep finance.
[01:29:45]  Totally.
[01:29:45]  Or whatever.
[01:29:48]  Yeah, it's kind of that.
[01:29:49]  So I don't think they need to always have a pandemic going on.
[01:29:53]  But they do definitely have a groove that they've found.
[01:29:59]  And so it does seem to work to their financial interests.
[01:30:01]  And that's definitely not good.
[01:30:03]  No.
[01:30:04]  But yeah, I don't care about a pandemic.
[01:30:07]  Fuck no.
[01:30:08]  The COVID.
[01:30:09]  Nope.
[01:30:09]  Done.
[01:30:10]  Get the fuck out of here.
[01:30:12]  Wow.
[01:30:12]  So yeah, we'll check back in on Monday for a rundown.
[01:30:17]  Indeed.
[01:30:18]  Of some more of the progression of the shooting conspiracy, and we'll see how that develops when Alex has a little bit of time on the weekend.
[01:30:27]  Of course.
[01:30:28]  To mill his thoughts over.
[01:30:29]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:30:30]  To rewrite again.
[01:30:31]  Yeah.
[01:30:32]  Probably.
[01:30:32]  Yep.
[01:30:33]  Let's go back to the writer's table.
[01:30:35]  We'll be back, Jordan.
[01:30:36]  But until then.
[01:30:37]  We have a website.
[01:30:38]  We do.
[01:30:38]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[01:30:39]  Yep.
[01:30:39]  We're also on Twitter.
[01:30:41]  We are on Twitter.
[01:30:41]  It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.

=== Huge Fan On Air (00:16) ===

[01:30:44]  Yep.
[01:30:44]  We'll be back.
[01:30:45]  But until then, I'm Neo.
[01:30:46]  I'm Leo.
[01:30:46]  I'm DZX Clark.
[01:30:47]  I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer.
[01:30:50]  And now here comes the sex robot.
[01:30:52]  Andy in Kansas.
[01:30:53]  You're on the air.
[01:30:53]  Thanks for holding.
[01:30:56]  Hello, Alex.
[01:30:57]  I'm a first time caller.
[01:30:58]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:30:58]  I love your work.