#658: It's Pretty Easy Being Greene
Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Marjorie Taylor Greene has been showing up more on Infowars lately. Content warning: this episode does cover a fair amount of transphobic territory Citations
March 11, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
01:44:31
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first cream color in my future. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| I have a quick question for you, sir. | ||
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What's up? | |
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is I was going around on the Infowars website. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Maybe it was band.video, I believe it was. | ||
| Theband.video. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And periodically, you'll see some fun advertisements on there. | ||
| And there's a new one, which we'll post a picture of this ad on our Twitter. | ||
| But it's a picture of Alex doing the Uncle Sam, kind of like pointing at the camera. | ||
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Do you need tax relief? | |
| Get the number one tax planning and tax relief recommended by Alex Jones. | ||
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I saw that and I was just like, this is so great. | |
| Half of his career has been talking about how the 16th Amendment doesn't exist. | ||
| It wasn't ratified. | ||
| I... | ||
| Can't be happier with InfoWars branded compliance. | ||
| I think that's what I'm really here about. | ||
| I wonder if this is like Irwin Schiff, if he's running this tax relief hotline. | ||
| Oh, maybe it's Joe Bannister or Red Beckman or these other fucking old school weirdos. | ||
| I mean, it's at the point now where it's like, have you had a personal injury? | ||
| InfoWars says go to, you know? | ||
| We're there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that is actually like... | ||
| I would find that more acceptable. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Alex hasn't spent most of his career railing against the legitimacy of personal injury suits or something. | ||
| He shouldn't believe that anyone should pay taxes. | ||
| Why are you having a tax settlement person? | ||
| That is very funny. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Anyway, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is baseball. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| It's going to do it. | ||
| They're going to have the baseball. | ||
| They're going to do it. | ||
| No, they agreed. | ||
| They agreed today. | ||
| To have the baseballs, they're going to play a full 162-game season. | ||
| I didn't even know there was a problem with baseball. | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't going to happen. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| It has not been happening for almost 100 days. | ||
| Isn't that the off-season, though? | ||
| Yeah, but even during the off-season, you still do stuff. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| You throw the ball around. | ||
| Sure, the camps. | ||
| Yeah, you do the whole thing. | ||
| None of it. | ||
| Nobody got paid. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| It was brutal. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| All because the owners were like, what if, and I'm going to throw this out there. | ||
| We could negotiate with the union. | ||
| Or what if we broke the union beneath our heels and smashed their teeth to grind up into powder so we can power our fucking penis pills? | ||
| That seems like something they'd be more interested in. | ||
| Yeah, they tried that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they almost did it. | ||
| So I hear a lot of talk about the Ricketts. | ||
| Yeah, they can... | ||
| Are they in the mix? | ||
| Oh, man, I hate them so much. | ||
| Were they in play? | ||
| Yes, they were in play. | ||
| Oh, bastards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Never heard anybody say, like, you know, it was great, the Ricketts. | ||
| Nobody... | ||
| Ever in the history of the world has been like, oh, thank God the Ricketts are here. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| They're evil. | ||
| They're like evil. | ||
| Yeah, it's like the reverse of that weatherman. | ||
| Tom, what's his name? | ||
| Tom Skilling? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Never heard anybody say negative things about him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everybody says everything negative about the rickets. | ||
| The rickets aren't showing up in a Serengeti song positively. | ||
| That shit ain't happening. | ||
| So yeah, if you're outside of Chicago, some of this might not make sense to you. | ||
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This might be difficult to, impenetrable, but that's great. | |
| Well, congratulations on getting your baseball. | ||
| I'm very happy. | ||
| So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be jumping around a little bit throughout time. | ||
| And the reason that we're going to be doing that is because... | ||
| This episode was authored by Kurt Vonnegut. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's the spiritual sequel to Momentum. | ||
| We'll be doing this backwards. | ||
| InfoWars House 5. So, there's something that's been going on, and that is that Marjorie Taylor Greene's been making more appearances on InfoWars. | ||
| And I believe this to be a bit troubling. | ||
| You know, where else would you find a Shrieking Harpy? | ||
| There's probably some other places, but... | ||
| Well, that's not so much a media outlet now, is it? | ||
| Well, that's fair. | ||
| So, yeah, we're going to be talking a little bit about that, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Reese Roper's Blue Comb. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, sous-chef for the demon feast and his screaming demon companion. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, my wife thinks it's weird I listen to you and I kind of do too. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, the intro sounds way more badass if you speed it up. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Don't you fuck with DJ Danerky, I'm telling you. | ||
| Not smart, but also thank you very much. | ||
| I hear from some people that they speed up and listen to the podcast, and like, look, there's something about timing. | ||
| You know, like... | ||
| It is an element of something, and you really kind of... | ||
| As comedians, it is kind of an important thing that we care about. | ||
| There's a part of it that's almost unfathomable to me, the experience of listening to something at double speed. | ||
| But I guess if you like doing that, do your thing. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Next, number one Knowledge on Bastards fan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And we have a technocrat in the mix. | ||
| So thank you so much to InfoFlaws.com. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back. | ||
| And I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken over here! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He's not. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| And this covers a stretch of time. | ||
| He's bad throughout all of it. | ||
| Yeah, all tomorrows are bad. | ||
| So there's something happening around InfoWars, like I said, that's definitely a cause for concern, and it needs to be noted. | ||
| To be fair, there's a lot of hard stuff going on. | ||
| But there's this trend that we need to pay more attention to it. | ||
| It's the relationship that's growing between InfoWars and Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| They're becoming a bit more entrenched than you might have expected the case to be. | ||
| Could have predicted? | ||
| Green appeared on Alex's February 2nd show, and we discussed that appearance, but what we've not yet touched on is how it's been followed up by a ton of further interaction. | ||
| The whole Putin invading Ukraine thing definitely seemed like a more relevant topic to cover, but now that Alex has kind of settled into his very transparent status quo of defending Putin while pretending he's just looking at all sides, we have an opportunity to go back and fill in some of the gaps from things that we missed along the way. | ||
| On her initial appearance, Alex mentioned that he was excited to meet Marjorie in person, and as it turned out, he didn't have to wait all that long, as she ended up making her first in-studio appearance on February 20th, which is where we're going to begin our episode today. | ||
| Green doesn't show up until the second hour of this Sunday episode, but if you take the time to listen to the beginning of it, you'll notice that Alex's top story is not one that looks great in hindsight. | ||
| There are a lot of conflicting reports about what's happening in Eastern Europe. | ||
| Northeastern Europe. | ||
| And what's really about to unfold in Ukraine, where there's been an eight-year proxy war between the globalists and the Russians. | ||
| Here's just some of the headlines. | ||
| Russia plans biggest war since 1945, says the British globalist prime minister, who I wouldn't believe a damn word comes out of his mouth, but who knows, it might be true. | ||
| Russian troops receive orders to proceed with invasion. | ||
| U.S. intelligence shows. | ||
| So this is the kind of brazen liar that Alex is. | ||
| He's specifically casting doubt on assessments that Russia was going to invade Ukraine on his February 20th show, mere days before the invasion actually happens. | ||
| That on its own probably isn't that bad. | ||
| I think a lot of people would have said similar things. | ||
| The problem is that as soon as the invasion happened, just a few days after this, he decides to put together a compilation of dumb clips he's pretending to prove that he's dead. | ||
| he predicted the invasion back in August 2021. | ||
| Right. | ||
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This is central to one of Alex's deception games and understanding clips like this is key to getting what's going on. | |
| On February 20th, Alex was probably aware that he'd made a prediction that there would be war by February, or at least he He's aware that he'd been yelling about war being imminent for a while, but he also knew that he'd been saying that it was going to be a war with China. | ||
| So if there's news coming out about the possibility of Russia being involved in a war, that's not what Alex is looking for. | ||
| It's not good for the brand. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alex loves Putin and hates the United States government, so if an agency within the U.S. government is saying that Putin is going to invade Ukraine, of course that's not true. | ||
| And Alex's supposed prediction isn't even a factor. | ||
| doesn't it doesn't come into his mind but then once the actual invasion happens there's a change in the calculation the prediction of war with china didn't materialize but this invasion is close enough for him to use so alex pretends that this is a is what he was talking about the whole time. | ||
| We heard how in this compilation, he used a clip from last November where he had to edit out the part where he said that he didn't think Russia was going to invade Ukraine. | ||
| And here you see that same mentality still in place on February 20th. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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At the core of things, Alex is just a monster. | |
| Right. | ||
| Because he sucks. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It is important. | ||
| To remember the noble truths. | ||
| Life is suffering. | ||
| That's a really important one. | ||
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True. | |
| What people forgot and what Gautama wasn't even really thinking about, which was his mistake, was that if life is suffering, you should therefore be able to make money off it because there's nothing you can do, baby. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Smoke him if you got him. | ||
| Smoke him if you got him, baby. | ||
| Gautama Buddha. | ||
| Also, if there's one problem with Gautama's conception, it's the idea that when you die, you just play a harp. | ||
| I was so mad whenever I read that. | ||
| So, like I mentioned, we're going to talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene's appearance here on the show. | ||
| And I want to give a bit of a little bit of content warning that generally goes over, I would say, a lot of this episode. | ||
| It's going to pop in and out. | ||
| It's not the... | ||
| I hope that we can discuss this in the sensitivity that is appropriate, and if it's something that you find objectionable, you might want to... | ||
| Tune in on Monday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because there may be some stuff that's not so great. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I've tried to not put anything in, you know, that's just gross for the sake of it being gross. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But some things are unavoidable. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex starts to introduce Marjorie, and, you know, he gives his normal spiel about how, like, I don't care about celebrities, man. | ||
| It doesn't even give a shit. | ||
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Nah. | |
| Well, I could care less about Hollywood stars. | ||
| I could care less about politicians. | ||
| I could care less about anybody but my family and other hard-charging patriots that love liberty. | ||
| But I get some butterflies and excited and was pacing up and down before she got here because I am extremely... | ||
| Excited to have MTG, Marjorie Taylor Greene, from Georgia's 14th District with us right now, because out of all the great people, there's quite a few good people in Congress, quite a few bad ones. | ||
| I've got to say, she's probably my favorite. | ||
| There's a few good ones up there, but I tell you, she is just the most genuine, and she's the most popular of anybody that got elected in the last round, but the system's coming after her big time. | ||
| This is so funny. | ||
| Like, Rand Paul is the son of anti-communist royalty and Alex's favorite politician of all time. | ||
| Who would actually come on Alex's dumb show? | ||
| And the second someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene gives him a second of attention, it's all like, Rand who? | ||
| I mean, yeah, that's very sad. | ||
| This is indicative of the slide that's happened on Alex's show over the years. | ||
| There was at least once, at one point, the pretense of being above principle and the issues, whereas now it's all just attempts to hijack people's attention, do some trolling, and then talk about meme shit. | ||
| it. | ||
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Alex used to at least pretend to discuss documents. | |
| Now, half of the time, he's reporting on tweets or sub stack posts that people write that don't mean anything. | ||
| Alex used to have guests who had an air of seriousness around them, whether or not they actually were, but people like Webster Tarpley or G. Edward Griffin. | ||
| But it wasn't so long ago that they were replaced by people like Carp. | ||
| ...and Mike Cernovich. | ||
| Alex never really had any true depth to the stuff he was saying and covering, but in his earlier career, there was at least an expectation that he pretend. | ||
| At this point, the cultural landscape has changed enough that there's no real point in even pretending, and now it's good enough just to do the troll shit and pretend that that is itself substance. | ||
| Well, I mean, you can say that it's gone downhill, or you could say that it's the modern Algonquin Roundtable. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, I mean, there are luminaries in their individual fields. | ||
| Dorothy Parker, she- She is not, Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Anyway, that brings us to Marjorie Taylor Greene popping onto the show. | ||
| She is fairly popular, which, combined with her clearly extreme right-wing politics, is the only reason that Alex has any interest in her. | ||
| That, and she's actually desperate enough for attention that she's willing to be on Infowars. | ||
| There's a pretty good chance that she's going to retake her seat in the 2022 midterm election, but from a lot of what I can tell, that just has to do with the inherent advantage of incumbency. | ||
| She's a really fucked up person who's willing to give speeches at Nick Fuentes' political conference and make regular appearances on Enforce, which puts her in the position of being someone with a bit of a constituency ceiling. | ||
| While it is true that the GOP has drifted closer to her brand of insanity in the past years, she still is a real vulnerability in terms of a potential GOP primary if she's ever up against a really strong candidate who doesn't pal around. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or if she's up against, like, the grand dragon of the KKK. | ||
| You know, like, she can go, it can go... | ||
| Way too far. | ||
| Yeah, it could go way further worse and everybody's like, wow, why even bother with her? | ||
| This is the Grand Dragon, man. | ||
| I actually, I think you're wrong. | ||
| If the Grand Dragon of the KKK was in the GOP primary against her, a third person would win because they would split the vote. | ||
| They would split the racist vote? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There would be the misogynist racist votes and the non-misogynist racist vote. | ||
| They would split the vote that is under her constituency ceiling. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that would be a problem. | ||
| And the third GOP candidate would probably just get everyone else. | ||
| Yeah, and that would be the Grand Wizard. | ||
| There's two... | ||
| Oh, there's a Grand Dragon and a Grand Wizard. | ||
| They're all in there, man. | ||
| I see. | ||
| The KKK's nuts. | ||
| I see. | ||
| So, Marjorie enters the proceedings. | ||
| And I wanted to talk to her about the tipping point and the global awakening and the elites against the people. | ||
| And I said, what do you want to cover first? | ||
| Right before we went live. | ||
| And she said the first thing on my list. | ||
| And my list was in this folder. | ||
| She hadn't seen it. | ||
| So we are definitely synced up. | ||
| Right now. | ||
| So, MTG, it's great to have you in Austin, Texas. | ||
| It's amazing to have you in studio. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| And I'm so happy to be here with you, Alex. | ||
| I think this is some of the most fun type of interviews I can do, so I'm so happy that I'm here. | ||
| It is an exciting interview for her, because she can just talk shit and speak freely. | ||
| Other interviewers would probably push back on completely insane things, you might say, but Alex would just let that shit slide and then try and outdo her. | ||
| Bigotry is on the table, stupid conspiracy theories are treated like serious concerns, It's much more fun than being on CNN for someone who's a bigot and really loves stupid conspiracy theories. | ||
| Yeah, you don't have to hold back. | ||
| You don't have to hide. | ||
| Nobody's going to be like, hey, why do you think it's okay to sacrifice children to Cthulhu? | ||
| And you'll be like, look, look, look, I never said that. | ||
| I only spoke at the Cthulhu Positive Conference because I didn't know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And anything really that you say that's negative or problematic, it's like you're already on InfoWars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, what? | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you gonna say? | ||
| It's... | ||
| Anyway, Marjorie Taylor Greene went to Congress not too long ago, and you might be surprised to learn that she was surprised about some things. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Well, I tell you, for me, what I see, and I'm just a regular person. | ||
| I've never been in politics before. | ||
| And going to Washington, the most disturbing thing that I have found is that the people in Washington, it's like a little bubble. | ||
| And it's this tiny little world. | ||
| And if you really look at it, it's a small percentage of people. | ||
| But they truly look down on the rest of America. | ||
| And they think that everything they think in their little bubble and what they want for our country is the most important thing. | ||
| But they look down on the common... | ||
| American man and woman and they just don't care. | ||
| They're so disconnected. | ||
| Wow, that's really profound, how the thing that Marjorie learned when she went to Washington is literally the most obvious complaint that everyone has about Washington. | ||
| I can't think of any complaint more obvious than, they're not in touch with the working man. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Insightful. | ||
| You got us. | ||
| But, you know, if she's so unlike these cloistered Washington bubble beings, then you would think that her legislative history would be full of all kinds of important bills that really help the people who she represents. | ||
| Totally, that's what it's about. | ||
| It certainly wouldn't be a bunch of shit that's essentially just playing. | ||
| Washington politics games and appealing to right-wing media entities. | ||
| I'm just going to pull this up here, you know? | ||
| See, it looks like she's introduced 18 bills in the time that she's been in office. | ||
| Oh, good for her. | ||
| And two were about expelling Maxine Waters from the House and her committee assignments. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| How did that go? | ||
| Well, it didn't go well. | ||
| But this was back in April 2021, so this is when the right-wing media was all up in arms about Waters saying that people should stay in the street and protest through the Chauvin trial. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| This is definitely something that's super relevant to the constituents in George's 14th. | ||
| whether or not a congressperson from California keeps her committee assignments. | ||
| That's definitely not just a desperate ploy to ride the wave of right-wing media attention and get a little bit of it for yourself. | ||
| Oh, look at this! | ||
| She also introduced four bills trying to impeach Joe Biden. | ||
| Oh, how did those go? | ||
| You know, they didn't go well. | ||
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Shit. | |
| I guess it's a little more relevant to Georgia voters since Georgia is in the United States, but this seems like it's a little much. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Looks like she also introduced a number of bills that were obviously going to die in committee, but had names that were just perfect for folks in the right-wing media to cover. | ||
| Stuff like the We Will Not Comply Act, or the Fire Fauci Act. | ||
| You can't write a law that's called We Will Not Comply, otherwise... | ||
| Aha, I have to resist that law. | ||
| I can't! | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| In November, she introduced a bill, HR 6070, which was known as the Kyle H. Rittenhouse Congressional Gold Medal Act. | ||
| She wanted to give Rittenhouse a Congressional Gold Medal. | ||
| You know that thing that's been awarded to people like Rosa Parks, Nelson Mandela, and Jonas Salk? | ||
| This seems like something that if I were just a regular person living in Rome or Calhoun or Dalton, Georgia, I'd be pretty interested in my representative taking the time to do that stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fight my battles for me. | ||
| It is like the people in Washington are just disconnected, and all they want to do is give gold medals to murderers, you know? | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| I know people think that Washington's working for them, but I swear to you, all they want to do is give gold medals to murderers. | ||
| All they want to do is do stuff that's red meat for the right-wing media. | ||
| They just love it. | ||
| It's a fine criticism of Congress to say that Congress members are often too in their own world and in a bubble, but the reality is that Marjorie Taylor Greene is in a bubble too. | ||
| It's a way worse bubble. | ||
| It's a bubble where the mechanisms of government really only exist in order to create opportunities to bring yourself more media attention and thus strengthen your own brand. | ||
| It's essentially all Marjorie has been doing since she's gotten to office, introducing these meaningless bills that are red meat for extreme right-wing media, going on tour with Matt Gaetz, speaking at Nick Fuentes' event, and now showing up on Alex's show more than once. | ||
| The normal congressional person's bubble may be an issue because it does keep them a bit detached from the larger world. | ||
| But Marjorie Taylor Greene's bubble essentially only has room in it for herself, which is a big, big problem. | ||
| Yeah, she's in a bubble that's created by delirium from the Sandman comics. | ||
| Like, we have to go downright mythical to get to the level of weird-ass bubble she's in. | ||
| I got really lost there, because I thought you were saying that reading the Sandman comics gives one delirium. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Delirium of the endless. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, look, these people in Washington... | ||
| They don't care about important things like Canadian trucking protests. | ||
| They're so disconnected. | ||
| That's why all they want is war in Ukraine instead of even thinking about truckers who deliver food and supplies. | ||
| They don't even care about kids wearing masks. | ||
| They don't care about our border with fentanyl pouring across, killing young people and being the number one cause of death, not COVID-19. | ||
| And it just bothers me so much. | ||
| They treat me as if I'm some kind of crazy person. | ||
| Like, I have three horns coming out of my head. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| I feel like the guy you're talking to is the one who talks about people having horns coming out of their head, being demons and such. | ||
| This is just a string of words that are meant to appeal to a far-right base, but ultimately what Green is saying makes no sense. | ||
| Like, what's the relationship between any of these thoughts? | ||
| You can see that there isn't any, because right-wing media training is essentially just go out there and list off as many grievances as you can, something will stick. | ||
| Cram it into the sentence. | ||
| It doesn't matter what your sentence is about, cram a little aside in there that's like, and Democrats kill everybody. | ||
| So then you go get to gas prices, Democrats murder everybody in the face, and gas is up by five cents. | ||
| It's kind of like a poorly executed debate strategy. | ||
| You have to make a bunch of points as quick as you can, but it's just done. | ||
| This is done terribly. | ||
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It's awful. | |
| So also, fentanyl is absolutely not the number one cause of death in the country. | ||
| Even with COVID, that honor still goes to heart disease, with cancer coming in second. | ||
| In 2020, 700,000 people died from heart disease. | ||
| Yeah, it's really bad. | ||
| What she means is that fentanyl is the number one cause of death of Americans aged 18 to 45, which is a problem, but ultimately, she doesn't have a solution other than yelling about China or the border or something. | ||
| If she wanted to make a concrete difference in this area, she would support safe access to drug sampling and test strips, so people... | ||
| This would be ultimately unacceptable to someone like Marjorie, though, because it would be tacitly accepting the reality that some people do drugs. | ||
| And you can't have that. | ||
| Same thing with, like, safe needle programs and the right-wing opposition to that shit. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| Okay, so you think this is a bad idea, but we've never tried to limit the supply of drugs coming in. | ||
| See, because if you limit the supply, then people won't get it. | ||
| So all you have to do is close up those borders, and there's no way that drugs will find their way into this country. | ||
| It's just like whenever we prohibited alcohol. | ||
| It worked. | ||
| And nobody got alcohol into this country, not one time! | ||
| It totally worked. | ||
| It was a 100% effective scam, and I don't know why anybody stopped it. | ||
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| Terrible idea. | ||
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| So Alex, you recall from Alex's shirt of the presidents. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| One of the things that was glaring in it was that for some reason Teddy Roosevelt had a nondescript or a non-random bland face. | ||
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Right. | |
| He just had a fun mustache and a hat. | ||
| He had his own caricature, although it was in the wrong place in the order. | ||
| It was definitely supposed to be Teddy. | ||
| And it's because of Alex's favorite speech, the man in the arena speech. | ||
| And so now Alex bestows the highest honor upon Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| He calls her a woman in the arena. | ||
| What was the journey running for Congress and winning by record numbers and being demonized and attacked and being the woman in the arena that Teddy Roosevelt talked about? | ||
| What has that process been like? | ||
| Because it seems like in the last three years, it's made you stronger, not weaker. | ||
| So Roosevelt's speech was about the man in the arena, and it's very specifically not about the woman in the arena. | ||
| When Teddy Roosevelt was president, a woman wouldn't have been allowed into the arena, literally or metaphorically. | ||
| Teddy Roosevelt was president from 1901 to 1909, and women didn't have the right to vote until 1920, the ratification of the 19th Amendment. | ||
| The first woman was elected to Congress in 1916. | ||
| And Rebecca Felton was the first woman in the Senate in 1922, but she was appointed to fill a vacancy and only served for one day because she was installed as a PR move on the part of the governor who was running in the upcoming Senate election and didn't want to appoint somebody to fill the vacancy. | ||
| that he might lose against. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Yep. | ||
| I set out to talk about one depressing thing, and it turns out we found another. | ||
| Well, I'm telling you, I'm starting to think that if you go back into America's history, you're going to find a lot of ugly shit. | ||
| So in fairness, Teddy Roosevelt would come out in favor of women's suffrage in 1912, but the speech that Alex is referring to is from 1910, so it's a little incongruous. | ||
| Anyway, you know, there's some deep, deep lessons that you learn when you go into Congress, and Marjorie has the opposite of those. | ||
| When I got there, this is what they told me. | ||
| Marjorie, that's not how we do things. | ||
| You see, they wanted me to come there. | ||
| They want all the new members of Congress to come and learn. | ||
| So talk about that. | ||
| Talk about, so, I mean, how did it happen? | ||
| Kind of pull you aside, take you to lunch? | ||
| What happens? | ||
| Well, it just comes gradually from different people. | ||
| And so they have their committees, everything set up on committees. | ||
| And what you have to do is you have to vote the way the chairman or the leaders of the committees want you to vote. | ||
| And that's how you're being a team player and that's how you're doing the right thing. | ||
| And if you're not doing that, then they want to minimize you. | ||
| They want to punish you. | ||
| They want to push you out. | ||
| They do not want your bills or your voice to be, you know. | ||
| So you're saying it's not just the Democrats doing this, it's just the Republicans? | ||
| Oh, a thousand percent. | ||
| Alex and Marjorie legitimately sound like children having this conversation. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Are they really surprised that political parties have a vested interest in corralling the votes of elected representatives within their parties? | ||
| I started a new job, and this guy, this guy, he was like, you have to do what I say. | ||
| What?! | ||
| Well, I mean, it's a little bit less direct than The Boss, but it's a coalition. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is it really something that they're going to present as a conspiracy here, that political parties derive their power from being able to vote as a bloc, and that's essentially how the democracy works? | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Honestly, this is painful to listen to, not only because it's stupid, but because it reveals a shocking level of disdain that Alex and Marjorie have for the people who are listening to them. | ||
| What Marjorie is describing is not strong-arm tactics or some kind of a weird conspiracy within Washington. | ||
| It's caucusing. | ||
| Marjorie's actual complaint is that she didn't have the political capital to dictate the direction of the party in her first term in office. | ||
| It's really an expression of narcissism and entitlement being disguised as some kind of complaint about party politics. | ||
| If she has a problem with the GOP, she's more than welcome to leave the party and become an independent, and then she won't have to get all the shit that she might get if she doesn't want to vote with the party on some important vote. | ||
| She can't do that, though, because the GOP has a very powerful fundraising machine, and without that R next to her name, she'd be essentially fucked in any election in her district. | ||
| Especially if that fundraising machine were to go behind one of her opponents. | ||
| What you hear Marjorie expressing here is essentially impotence because she doesn't understand how to make things work in government and she's not willing to figure it out. | ||
| Why would you when doing this kind of bullshit and doing media spectacles is clearly more profitable for you than governing? | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Governing is hard. | ||
| Using your power and your elected influence to make money for yourself is astonishingly easy. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I mean, she's already made a shit ton of money in the stock market just because she knows shit that she's not supposed to. | ||
| I don't know that to be true, but I'll take your word for it. | ||
| Yeah, man! | ||
| It's all fucking corrupt. | ||
| Well, I was looking at her primary race in Georgia and the discrepancy between her fundraising and her next closest opponent. | ||
| Big gap. | ||
| Little different? | ||
| Big gap. | ||
| Yeah, weird, weird, weird, weird, weird. | ||
| It's almost like there's a correlation between how much money you have and then how likely you are to win. | ||
| Well, and also being part of the political party lends you a little bit more credibility and such within the fundraising apparatus. | ||
| No, and you can hear... | ||
| You have a lot more resources. | ||
| You can hear her literally being like... | ||
| Ignoring the fact that, yes, that's why you're part of the Republican Party and just being like, nah, I shouldn't have to make trade-offs. | ||
| I should get everything I want. | ||
| I want your money, I want your power, I want your influence, and I want to do whatever the fuck I want to do and you not to question me. | ||
| I want to be able to reject... | ||
| Whatever you bring to the table that I don't want, and I want to be able to insist that you back up everything I want to do. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And, alright, fine. | ||
| That is an adult. | ||
| Great. | ||
| If that's really how you model, or that's what you want government to be, great. | ||
| It's counterproductive. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Obviously you wouldn't present it that way. | ||
| You present it the way she is. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Because otherwise you sound like an idiot. | ||
| Otherwise you sound like a child. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Who needs to fucking take a civics class. | ||
| I want to be a person in charge. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anything to not be forced to accept publicly the rampant narcissism that's behind your beliefs. | ||
| So there's an interesting question that comes up from Alex. | ||
| And that is, hey, hey Marjorie, who's more evil? | ||
| Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Or Mitch McConnell. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| What do you think? | ||
| Dangerous. | ||
| Such a difficult question for Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| So who's more evil? | ||
| Somebody like AOC that's an admitted communist that flies first class and wears $8,000 outfits, but says a hard-working mom or dad, you know, running a business, making $50,000 a year is greedy. | ||
| Is she bad because she admits she's evil? | ||
| She admits she's out in the open. | ||
| Or is somebody like Mitch McConnell more evil? | ||
| Because he claims he's with us, but he makes sure that that power structure stays in place. | ||
| Well, there's a big comparison there. | ||
| I would say AOC is definitely anti-American. | ||
| She's against our American ways. | ||
| She's a communist. | ||
| She's honestly about it. | ||
| She's honest about it, though. | ||
| She'll tell you. | ||
| Whereas Mitch McConnell, he lies to your face. | ||
| He says he's a Republican. | ||
| He's the leader in the Senate of the Republican Party, but he's married to Elaine Chao, and they are fully bought and paid for by China. | ||
| On record. | ||
| On record. | ||
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| Wow! | ||
| So, first of all, AOC isn't a communist. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Second, this is a really interesting thing for Marjorie to be doing because in some ways, this kind of behavior is only really going to drive a further wedge between her and the party she seems so frustrated that she isn't in control of. | ||
| That kind of seems counterproductive because as grim as things may seem, the odds of enough completely insane people like her getting voted into the House to make a coalition that she could use to get... | ||
| It's kind of low. | ||
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| Also incredibly low. | ||
| Yeah, they'd call it the CCC, the crazy kook coalition, and then you'd be like, wait a second, that could be KKK, and then you're like, oh, I get it. | ||
| And then they're just trolling you to say that, and then they make a million dollars. | ||
| And you're like, Jesus Christ, I want to die. | ||
| So in 2021, Green tried to start the America First Caucus, but was only able to bring in Paul Gosar, Matt Gaetz, and Louie Gohmert. | ||
| Immediately after announcing the faction, the GOP leadership expressed their strong disapproval of it, and the group disbanded, most likely because people like Louie Gohmert knows where his bread is buttered, and having a group that's just Paul Gosar, Matt Gaetz, and Marjorie is a little too obvious what they're actually for, and maybe... | ||
| Well, speaking of making things too obvious, on their policy platform statement, the America First Caucus had a section about immigration that's a little bit too on the nose. | ||
| They kept referring to people as, quote, post-1965 immigrants, which is a dog whistle to white nationalists who believe that the Hart-Seller Act, passed in 1965, was a nefarious plot to diminish the white population in the country by stealthily bringing in non-white immigrants. | ||
| I mean, just really putting those specifics down on paper for people. | ||
| People like Marjorie have big ideas, but unfortunately at their core, they're hateful bigots, and so their big ideas only really attract other bigots and cast-offs, and they can't really help but wink to their bigot audience and their statements of beliefs. | ||
| And then when the whole thing doesn't work, naturally Marjorie pretends that she had no idea about that policy position paper. | ||
| She took her shot and failed, because the accumulation of political power when you want to work within and without the established party hierarchy is complicated. | ||
| It takes precision tools, and she's just a jackhammer, so she'll just end up destroying anything she tries to create outside of publicity stunts. | ||
| Those, you don't need a soft touch for. | ||
| You need to yell, and she can do that fine. | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| So, as for Elaine Chao, Mitch McConnell's wife, I'm not sure if she and Mitch are on the Chinese payroll, and I don't know how much of that is being said by Marjorie just because Chao is Chinese. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah, I suspect that, too. | ||
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Yep. | |
| In reality, Chao's family owns a shipping company that does business in China called Foremost Group. | ||
| Though she's not formally connected to the company, they stood to gain from foreign policy decisions that Trump could make, and let's not forget that Trump named Chao his Secretary of Transportation. | ||
| That seems almost... | ||
| Yeah, but you don't want to touch that part of it because then it looks bad for Trump. | ||
| It looks bad for everybody, doesn't it? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this seems like a case of racism intersecting with some good old-fashioned corruption, and it's being depicted as proof that someone is a spy for China. | ||
| Let's pretend that Elaine Chao actually is a Chinese spy. | ||
| Make Trump look like a real idiot for making her part of his cabinet. | ||
| Sure would. | ||
| Let's not unpack that, though, because this isn't a real accusation. | ||
| It's mostly just racism. | ||
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| It's easy to be racist, and fuck, Mitch McConnell doesn't care. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| McConnell cares. | ||
| He's the orchestrator of some of the most racist shit in the world. | ||
| So, look, the reality is, though, that Marjorie, she believes in the people. | ||
| Much like Dusty Rhodes. | ||
| The people drive me. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| I don't like that I said that. | ||
| You know, sometimes I wonder, is it too late? | ||
| But I don't think so. | ||
| I still hold on to hope constantly because I do believe in the American people. | ||
| I mean, I believe in you. | ||
| I mean, I know you're for real. | ||
| I know your voting record's amazing. | ||
| So we'll get to Green's voting record, but I wanted to bring up something that I didn't realize until I was poking around about Marjorie for this episode. | ||
| Did you know that between May 2021 and January 2022, Marjorie was fined at least 34 times for not wearing a mask in the House chamber? | ||
| I knew she was fined a shit ton. | ||
| Did not know it was that many times. | ||
| She's believed to have been fined at least $78,000 for not wearing a mask over the course of about seven months. | ||
| That's approximately three times the per capita annual income for people in her home district, George's 14th. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What an amazingly childish asshole. | ||
| Hey, luckily the good news is, either one, no one will ever come to collect it, or two, it will come out of the taxpayer's money. | ||
| The second one, 100% true. | ||
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| Also, gun to his head, Alex couldn't come up with a single vote Marjorie has cast. | ||
| He has no idea what her record is like outside of her record of making inflammatory public statements, and he likes those. | ||
| Do you remember that time she voted yes? | ||
| I remember that one. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I was going over her record, and there are a couple of interesting points that come up. | ||
| The first is that she did vote against the GOP's position in her time in Congress so far, 24.2% of the time, making her the third most frequent person in the House going against their party. | ||
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| That makes some sense, though, but what was really wild is that if you look at the list, the top 41 of them are all Republicans. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| There's chaos in the House for the Republicans. | ||
| Well, I mean, they all agree on the big things, like killing people who disagree with them. | ||
| And then that causes problems, because on the inside, they disagree with each other. | ||
| So it's like, they gotta have a constant stream of people they hate outside of there. | ||
| Otherwise, like, if we just shut off TV around the Senate for like two weeks, there would be 22 Republican senators left. | ||
| They would have just eaten each other. | ||
| And six new political parties. | ||
| At least. | ||
| Yes, with many amputees. | ||
| I was pretty shocked at that. | ||
| That lack of sort of coalition management. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The top 41 people in the House with the highest percentage of voting against their party line. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All Republicans. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| Anyway, the second thing is I realized that I'd get into her voting record, but I realized, what's the point? | ||
| Alex isn't going to break up any specifics. | ||
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| Who cares? | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| Not one of her votes has mattered about anything. | ||
| So a large part of this interview is rank transphobia. | ||
| It's pretty bad. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Pretty just unacceptable all around. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex introduces this next segment here, just reading off a laundry list of deceptive and misrepresented headlines that he's using for the sake of spreading transphobic narratives, and it gets to this clip, which is pretty bad. | ||
| MTG is here to give her take on this. | ||
| So much to deal with there. | ||
| Oh, I think it's straight evil. | ||
| First off, if I was a parent and my fifth grade daughter had to sleep and shower in some kind of cabin at some summer camp that I paid money to send my child to, and there was a man calling himself a woman, sleeping in her cabin, showering with her, that guy, he'd be in jail. | ||
| He would be in jail. | ||
| Well, first off, my husband would have beat him into the ground, and then he'd be in jail. | ||
| But this is exactly how we need to stand up against this stuff. | ||
| So one thing that's pretty important to point out here is the story that Marjorie is talking about involved absolutely no wrongdoing by anybody. | ||
| No child was hurt or anything. | ||
| The entire issue is that one of the counselors at a science camp that fifth graders went to was non-binary and used they-them pronouns. | ||
| This has to do with a fifth grade group of students from Los Alamalitos who went to a camp called Camp Pali. | ||
| If any of the people who participated in outrage rants like Marjorie here took the time to look into this at all, they could learn a little bit more about this camp and realize that it's more or less a luxury camping setup. | ||
| When they say that the kids stayed in a camp end with the counselors, it's meant to evoke the idea that they're staying in this tiny shack, but in reality, they're big buildings that house 10 students and bunk beds and have separate rooms that the counselors stay in. | ||
| Also, each cabin has two to three private bathrooms and showers, so there's no communal showering going on here at all. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| From everything I can tell, this started as a local news report from KTLA about two parents who were mad that the school district didn't tell them that someone who worked at the camp that their children were sent to was non-binary, and if they had known, they wouldn't have sent their children. | ||
| From everything I can tell, no other parents were upset, and I can't find a bunch of other complaints from other parents who had sent their children to this camp. | ||
| That's all you need. | ||
| The fact that everything was fine at the camp and no child was mistreated leads to folks having to show their cards a little bit too clearly. | ||
| on this one. | ||
| Nothing happened but to Marjorie the mere existence of a non-binary person in proximity to children is a threat to that child because she believes that trans and non-binary people are inherently dangerous to children in the same way that the right-wing media made that argument about gay people in the 80s or black people decades prior. | ||
| Doing the same game over again, and it's disgusting. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| Also, Marjorie needs to be way more careful with her language. | ||
| I have no idea how intentional what she said was, but at the end of that clip, if you just take her words in the context of how she said them, she's advocating for committing acts of violence against trans and non-binary people. | ||
| She's pretending that it's about people sleeping or showering with these students. | ||
| But in the case she's talking about, that didn't happen. | ||
| The story she's basing her outrage on is just that a non-binary person was employed somewhere. | ||
| That's the long and short of it. | ||
| All I'm saying is if these people act in the way that they never have, never will, and frankly, wouldn't make any sense at all for anyone, then I think we should commit violence against them. | ||
| And that they won't, can't, and never will should not stop us from continuing to commit violence against them. | ||
| It's just abhorrent. | ||
| And this becomes kind of a main sticking point throughout some of the stuff that we're going to be talking about today, this case of that camp. | ||
| And it's just, I mean, it's all around unacceptable. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But of course, this leads to a conversation about trans people in sports. | ||
| Because great. | ||
| Because fine. | ||
| Here we go with that. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And then the men. | ||
| This guy, Leah. | ||
| Leah Thompson. | ||
| I'm sorry, that's... | ||
| And he's not a she, he's a he. | ||
| He should not be competing in women's swimming. | ||
| Any time he wins, he did not win. | ||
| Whoever came in second place, the real girl in the race, she's the winner. | ||
| He should be thrown out of swimming completely. | ||
| All of the men, I do not care about, it shouldn't matter about what they do in their bedroom, if they want to wear a dress fine, but what they're doing is they are defeating women. | ||
| It's about beating women down, and the left stands up for it. | ||
| And this is where America needs to say, enough. | ||
| Most Americans agree that this is wrong, and it's absolutely ridiculous. | ||
| And I don't know why Fox News or anyone We need to call them what they are. | ||
| They're men. | ||
| That makes them a he, a him, and not play this pronoun game anymore. | ||
| And let's expand on that. | ||
| Oh, that's a great thing for Alex to just be like, yeah, let's go along. | ||
| Let's go even further. | ||
| So the trans athletes thing is just a convenient, easy place for people like Alex and Marjorie to hide their hate because it gives the pretense of their bigotry coming from a place other than what it is, which is just hate. | ||
| I've never once on his show or any like it heard a conversation about trans man athletes and whether or not they think it's wrong for them to compete in men's sports because that doesn't work for the narrative that they're trying to use this mask to Mm-hmm. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Now, I want to put a fine point on this in the way that I mean to be very emphatic about. | ||
| What Marjorie Taylor Greene is doing here isn't making a political statement about trans athletes or anything like it. | ||
| She's categorically dismissing the validity of trans people's existence. | ||
| At very least, she's reducing being trans to being a purely sexual thing by saying things like, whatever you do in your bedroom. | ||
| This is an unacceptable level of ignorance for a person who's an elected official to have. | ||
| It's just outrageous. | ||
| And it's particularly relevant for someone like Marjorie, because she represents a district in Georgia, which happens to be the state with the fourth highest percentage of the population to identify as trans. | ||
| It's very relevant to her constituency. | ||
| Probably a lot more so than whether or not Kyle Rittenhouse gets a gold star from Congress. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is actually a very destructive thing for her being able to represent the people of her state. | ||
| I mean, you know, it is such that she... | ||
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| And it is so fucking disgusting to me. | ||
| That it's just like, how? | ||
| How, why, what do you? | ||
| And it's just like, she just gets personal satisfaction. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, really, at the end of the day, she gets nothing more than the personal satisfaction of having hurt people. | ||
| Because she can get money out of it, but she could get money in any other different fucking way. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You don't have to go to Congress to get money. | ||
| And frankly, you don't have to go to Congress to hate trans people and get money for doing that. | ||
| It's just that she fucking hates people, and then everybody gets so happy for her, like, oh, wow, you're so great! | ||
| Keep hating people! | ||
| Keep hating people! | ||
| Well, I think a part of it, too, is signaling to the folks... | ||
| You know, there's a method of accumulating power, which is engaging in the communal demonization of the chosen victim group, or the vulnerable group that the rest of your... | ||
| And I think that she gets something out of that as being part of signaling and making very concrete that she is part of this in-group that is doing the hating of this vulnerable group. | ||
| So Alex has some old talking points he wants to weave back in and it's just gross. | ||
| And like you said, they're stealing women's spaces, and children are being put to the Black Queen story time that a big, fat man in a clown outfit is a woman. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| That's not a woman. | ||
| That's a big, fat man or a little boy dressed up like a girl. | ||
| This is all very, very sexualization of children. | ||
| In fact, I can't show this video in Austin, part of what we have. | ||
| They had men on stage with little kids giving them money who had no G-strings on. | ||
| Saying they were women with glitter on their genitals and hugging little kids. | ||
| Naked men. | ||
| This is four years ago in Austin. | ||
| Naked men literally grabbing children. | ||
| No. | ||
| How did we get here, Alex? | ||
| I can't even understand that. | ||
| So Alex ignores this, but most drag queens aren't trans. | ||
| Drag is a performance art and doesn't really correlate with someone's gender identity. | ||
| But even beyond that, Alex is using talking points that are way past their expiration date. | ||
| That is old stuff. | ||
| Also, that video that Alex is describing doesn't exist. | ||
| I've seen the video that he claims depicts that, and it's absolutely not what he's describing. | ||
| Alex is lying to a member of Congress in an attempt to make them even more radically anti-trans than they already are, which is, uh, moof. | ||
| Man, you know, it's like, how did we get to this point? | ||
| The other day, I saw my neighbor. | ||
| She put a frog. | ||
| A frog into a cauldron. | ||
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| Cauldron Dan! | ||
| She dropped that frog in there. | ||
| The cow, three doors down, immediately fell to the floor. | ||
| That is her fault entirely. | ||
| How did we get here? | ||
| How did we let this happen? | ||
| It's unfathomable. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We gotta follow the fucking rules of the Lord! | ||
| Yeah, I think that I hate this, the content. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's something about it that I think is... | ||
| It would be negligent if we didn't bring it up. | ||
| Inasmuch as this is a sitting member of Congress that is actively engaging in this with Alex. | ||
| And it's bad, man. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| A member of Congress is engaging in stochastic terrorism in order to get trans youth killed. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| I would say that's the summation. | ||
| That's the goal. | ||
| And I can't... | ||
| express how infantile even these these thoughts that she's bringing to the table are this is such perversion but it's also grooming children it's grooming them to believe things that are lies and that are completely wrong no Exactly. | ||
| It's like Hollywood stars and all the things they've engaged in. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What are you... | ||
| What? | ||
| Why did Alex stop himself when he was clearly saying a status symbol? | ||
| That was clearly what he was about to say. | ||
| He stopped himself somehow, and then changed it to what Hollywood stars do, which I assume he means Paris Hilton having a dog in her purse or something. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| I thought it was more like Angelina Jolie, maybe? | ||
| That's a possibility. | ||
| Adopting kids from places? | ||
| That's a possibility, yeah. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| Yeah, either are possible. | ||
| But yeah, this is a grotesque perspective. | ||
| So, she also has some complaints about people not stopping this or something. | ||
| I don't really... | ||
| This is just awful. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's really disturbing. | ||
| but here's what bothers me the most is so many good men are silent with it. | ||
| They won't say anything, Alex, like they don't stand up and protect us. | ||
| We're not going to allow you in our daughters' bathrooms. | ||
| We aren't going to allow you in our girls' cabins at camp. | ||
| We aren't going to allow you to beat down our women and our daughters. | ||
| Like in the UFC or other MMA fighting. | ||
| They let biological men literally kill women in some cases. | ||
| So there have been two open trans women who've competed in MMA professionally. | ||
| There was Fallon Fox, who retired in 2014, and Alana McLaughlin, who has had one professional fight so far, not for the UFC, but for Combat Global. | ||
| None of Fallon's fights were UFC fights. | ||
| Most of them were with Championship Fighting Alliance. | ||
| That is to say that there has not been a trans woman fighter competing in the UFC. | ||
| Right, but that doesn't mean that they haven't been killed. | ||
| Well, I think that Alex is just lying about how in her last fight before retiring, Fallon Fox did break her opponent's skull in the ring. | ||
| And then he's conflating that with a 2019 story about Sida Aleta, who was a woman fighter in the UK who competed in the Fast and Furious fight series. | ||
| Later, she suffered a brain injury in her fight, which ended up leading to her death the next day. | ||
| Her opponent, Jamie Morgan, is a cis woman. | ||
| Alex is combining these things and making up details in order to suit his purposes, because this is a transphobic episode he's got going on here with Marjorie Taylor Greene, and why not pretend that... | ||
| Hey, listen, if the enemy that you want isn't doing the thing that you need them to do in order to make them your enemy... | ||
| Just say they are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just say it. | ||
| So, we're going to jump off this subject, because there's more that is said that is... | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| Yeah, disgusting and awful and unacceptable in the exact same vein. | ||
| And playing anything more would really kind of tend to be... | ||
| I think it might feel like wallowing around and them being awful for the sake of demonstrating the awfulness. | ||
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| Their virtue signaling in a sense. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So we'll jump to this, where we get back to civics and... | ||
| And our lack of understanding of them. | ||
| Someone's lack of understanding of it. | ||
| Yes, that's for sure. | ||
| But here's something that a lot of people don't understand about Congress. | ||
| So most of the bills that get passed are passed by voice vote. | ||
| That is until this year. | ||
| And, you know, everyone remembers the story of me being kicked off committees. | ||
| Not that big of a deal because Democrats are in control. | ||
| And Republicans can't really do much on committees anyways when the Democrats control the House. | ||
| And that was a badge of honor. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Because that means, you know what? | ||
| That means the swamp knew exactly who I am. | ||
| They knew that I wasn't going to hand over my... | ||
| They didn't want you looking at the legislation. | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
| Well, nobody wants you looking at the legislation. | ||
| That kind of mentality is just incompatible with getting anything done. | ||
| The consequences as virtue, it's just... | ||
| You know that you're on the right track when everyone does not like you. | ||
| Imagine, like, apply that sort of thinking to Osama bin Laden. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, nobody gets more right than that. | ||
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| Just think about all sorts of negative figures. | ||
| You know, everybody hated Hitler, and that was everybody. | ||
| Well, some of the people who are on Alex's network might actually... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that might be an issue. | ||
| They might actually believe that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Marjorie, after she lost these committee assignments that don't really matter, and it's a badge of honor that she lost them to begin with. | ||
| I mean, in her defense, though, I will say that when everybody in the GOP kicked her off those committees, they had to have been like, well, yeah, she's not here for this. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| We can use her still, but this is not... | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would we waste our time? | ||
| There's a role for someone like this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But unfortunately... | ||
| What you've got to understand is when you try to use somebody like this to play a role, they will end up attacking you. | ||
| The chair recognizes the congresswoman from Georgia. | ||
| The weapon will be turned on you very quickly. | ||
| But after she lost this committee assignment, you know what? | ||
| She decided, maybe I should learn how this here government works. | ||
| I'm just a bill. | ||
| It's so depressing. | ||
| That is sad. | ||
| And so when I lost my committees, I started sitting on the House floor. | ||
| And I don't know if you've ever heard this story, but I started sitting on the House floor, and what I wanted to do is learn the process. | ||
| And so I started watching them debate the bills back and forth. | ||
| And they would, the person in the chair that was supposed to be Speaker Pelosi, she would, or he, whoever it was with a mask on, I had no idea, but it usually wasn't Nancy, they would ask for the voice votes. | ||
| And so after they debated the bill, the Democrats would say, yay! | ||
| And then the Republicans on our side would say, nay! | ||
| And then the person sitting there in the Speaker's chair with the gavel would say, the bill passed. | ||
| And like 10 members of Congress would have voted saying yes or no. | ||
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| I'm not kidding you. | ||
| And so what I started doing is I started using floor procedure, and I started asking for roll call votes. | ||
| So they would debate the bill back and forth. | ||
| And then this person in the chair, you know, Speaker Maskface or whoever it is, would ask for the voice votes. | ||
| And before the bill would pass, I would say, Madam Speaker, I ask for the recorded vote. | ||
| Well, that means that all members of Congress had to come in and actually vote. | ||
| You see, we have a voting card, and we're supposed to use it. | ||
| It's supposed to be an electronic vote, and it should record all of our votes, whether it's yes or no. | ||
| And so I would put my, we all are supposed to put our card in there, Yes, no, or present. | ||
| I don't even know why there's present, but either yes or no. | ||
| And I've been doing this since February. | ||
| The House Freedom Caucus joined in with me. | ||
| And at this time, Alex, we have over 500 bills that are on record that you can actually look up. | ||
| Any member of Congress, you can look up their vote and even see, did they even show up for work that day? | ||
| Did they actually vote? | ||
| Did they vote yes? | ||
| Did they vote no? | ||
| What you're saying is they're doing it not just to manipulate the votes, but to hide the record. | ||
| That is exactly what I'm telling you. | ||
| I mean, or one could argue that it's a fucking massive government. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And all of these things are negotiated for months in advance. | ||
| Some of them, yeah. | ||
| So, you see, the best time to learn about what it means to be a member of the House of Representatives is when you're there and you've been kicked off your committees. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the time to get down to brass tacks and figure out what you're supposed to be doing. | ||
| It's about time. | ||
| Marjorie's a real idiot, but I guess in the long run on this one, who cares? | ||
| Traditionally, the House didn't vote on every measure with roll call votes because there's so many members of that body that if they were going to do it that way, it would take forever and essentially nothing would ever get done. | ||
| Conversely, with just 100 members, the Senate traditionally does do roll call votes for most orders. | ||
| It's only 100 people. | ||
| The way things work is that bills or measures or resolutions that are likely to pass or fail or put up to a voice vote, and then it's decided by the Speaker. | ||
| People can then call for a roll call vote, so if someone contests the vote, it can be looked at more closely, and the House can't end up getting bogged down in this laborious-ass process. | ||
| What Marjorie is discussing doing could have been a problem in earlier days, but at this point, it's more or less just an annoyance, since they have digital voting cards and they don't have to go one by one, vote yay or nay. | ||
| Also, you can go to Congress' website and look at the list of roll call votes in previous sessions of Congress, and honestly, it doesn't appear that there are any more or less of them since Marjorie started doing this. | ||
| For instance, there were 449 roll call votes in the first session of the present Congress, compared to 705 in the first session of the 114th Congress, which was in 2015. | ||
| You can find the voting records for folks in the House back then, and I don't think she's making an impact. | ||
| No. | ||
| I really don't think Marjorie is having an impact at all, at least especially not in the way she thinks she is. | ||
| And part of that has to be due to her clear ignorance of how government works, as evidenced by her bewilderment at the idea of a voice vote and the fact that she's confused by the idea of people voting present. | ||
| This indicates that she doesn't understand the bodies of Congress and how they need a quorum to carry out business legally, so if you don't want to take a side, but you also want to make sure that the vote can happen legally, the solution is to vote present. | ||
| You know, there's other situations, too, but there's a lot of functions. | ||
| It can be done in a case where a Congress member has a conflict of interest, so they can't vote one way or the other, but... | ||
| If they were to not vote and it leads to a quorum not being there, that in effect could be them working in some way. | ||
| Which is in and of itself a vote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's a number of reasons one might vote present. | ||
| I really would have hoped that a person would know these kind of basic things before they decide to run for Congress, but when it's all about attention and just yelling, why would you? | ||
| Why would you care about how to effectively do the job you're asking people to... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, elect you to do. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| It really is kind of astonishing. | ||
| But then, I think back about my civics education in school, and it's like, yeah, I can see somebody who just has my civics education from school, not, like, learning anything outside of that. | ||
| Going to Congress and being like, well, this isn't how it's supposed to work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| Well, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how our own fucking government works? | ||
| Or people who want to run. | ||
| Should have to take a class. | ||
| A base confidence. | ||
| There should be... | ||
| I don't want it to be a ridiculous bar of entry. | ||
| Obviously, that would work against people who are working people. | ||
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You don't need a law degree. | |
| You don't need that. | ||
| And it should also be prohibitive in terms of the time commitment that it would take in order to... | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because then you've created an aristocratic ruling class, which we already have. | ||
| I find it to be really difficult to think how government can function if people like Marjorie, who have no idea how any of this stuff works, are the people who get elected. | ||
| It's electing a stick to a wheel conference. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Does that work? | ||
| No. | ||
| But it is so counterproductive, too. | ||
| Because she thinks, and these dum-dums think, that if they go in there and they disrupt the process, then that will give them more power and bring more attention to the subject. | ||
| When in reality, when you go in there and you obstruct the process, that only makes people who have any actual power... | ||
| Avoid you. | ||
| Go as far away from this bullshit as they can in order to do things in those secret back rooms that you hate so much. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| And then there's also, like, you know, obviously we're living in a point where the Democrats are in control of the House and Biden is president. | ||
| And so the people who maybe wield more of the centralized power within the Republican Party obviously don't mind someone who's just... | ||
| Meaninglessly obstructionist. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That works for them. | ||
| When they're trying to not get anything done, hooray. | ||
| Yeah, you're the best. | ||
| You're a hero. | ||
| Anybody else comes into office, the House flips Republican, all of a sudden they try to push an agenda through, she becomes a problem for the Republicans. | ||
| Suddenly she's gone. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Suddenly the relationship is a little bit different and your antics aren't as fun anymore. | ||
| So anyway, you gotta give her some money. | ||
| They're coming after you. | ||
| They've got PACs after you. | ||
| They're running scams. | ||
| We need you to win with a record level or they could remove you from Congress when you're such an important person there. | ||
| How do people donate to MTG? | ||
| Well, I really appreciate you asking that. | ||
| Go to WizardsOfTheCoast.com. | ||
| I'm only supported by regular people. | ||
| I don't take money from lobbyists or PACs. | ||
| MTG4America.com. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So, here's some of the donors that Marjorie's gotten money from this cycle. | ||
| Here's some regular people, Dan. | ||
| Raytheon, Berkshire Hathaway, Lockheed Martin, Chevron, Koch Industries. | ||
| Regular people. | ||
| It's something called America First Events. | ||
| Oh, that's probably not... | ||
| That's probably the most evil of them. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Ungooglable name, I'll tell you that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She also accepted money from the House Freedom Fund and the Freedom First Political Action Committee. | ||
| Both are registered PACs. | ||
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Regular people. | |
| So, she's a liar. | ||
| Regular people. | ||
| But it's also... | ||
| It's actually worse than that when you actually consider Marjorie's larger record. | ||
| In 2021, she probably broke house rules when she appeared in an ad soliciting donations for a group called the Stop Socialism Now PAC. | ||
| The issue is that candidates and elected officials can't solicit donations larger than $5,000, but people can give an unlimited amount to PACs, so this was a super unethical thing for her to do. | ||
| The system's already unethical. | ||
| Like, the fundamental system is already unethical. | ||
| At a certain point, even the Republicans are like, Jesus Christ, it's already a scam! | ||
| Not only that, though, at the end of last year, when Marjorie was going on tour with Matt Gaetz, part of that was at least in part to, it was meant to promote their joint fundraising organization, the Put America First PAC. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That completely fell apart because they spent all their money they raised on a tour, which was a bust, and then the PAC ended up essentially broke. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway, Green has no problem with incredibly shady campaign finance stuff. | ||
| This is all bullshit. | ||
| And that's virtue signaling, if I ever saw it. | ||
| But it's also, like, if you understand the funding difference between her and her next closest, I think it's Jennifer Strahan is the other person running who's closest to her. | ||
| It's comical, the gap between them. | ||
| There's no reason that anybody in Alex's audience should be sending her money, even if they believe in her. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| This is a total scam. | ||
| Anyway, she has an idea, though. | ||
| To me, you know, they talk about the Civil War and the GOP. | ||
| Well, I fully embrace it because I believe that iron sharpens iron, and we need to be the GOP conference that actually does something for a change instead of talking about it on Fox News. | ||
| You see, I think Republicans have a job to do, and that is to become the American Party. | ||
| We need to be the American Party. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Not left or right. | ||
| The American Party. | ||
| Yes, the American Party. | ||
| So fun how these do want a party that's the American Party. | ||
| It's not left or right. | ||
| It's the American Party. | ||
| Now, I will say that it It happens to have literally all of the positions that are miles to the right of the current GOP, and they think that anybody who's on the left is a literal demon, but it's not about left or right. | ||
| It's about America. | ||
| And we're the people who, when we go to government, we don't know anything about how it works. | ||
| It's almost like we don't know anything. | ||
| We could shorten it. | ||
| We know nothing. | ||
| Let's make a party. | ||
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| Whoa, shit. | ||
| We've done this before, haven't we? | ||
| As they say, patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, but there's an addendum to that. | ||
| It's also an early refuge for really lazy con artists. | ||
| That's what's going on here. | ||
| Anyway, that's about as much as there is in the February 20th episode. | ||
| I will say that I think that the most relevant element of this is, like, I know that Marjorie was awful, but I didn't know that she was this ill-equipped to be in government. | ||
| When I heard her talk about being surprised by the idea of voice votes or not knowing why people vote president... | ||
| That was troubling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| And then a larger problem, obviously, is the willingness to be so explicitly and disgustingly transphobic in response to what is, at its core, a benign story. | ||
| A totally benign story. | ||
| A story that nothing happened. | ||
| That features zero events. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That features only the existence. | ||
| It might as well have been like, hey, Dan, I went to a god camp. | ||
| When I was younger. | ||
| Right. | ||
| End of story! | ||
| Dude, I went... | ||
| There were people there. | ||
| I went on a mission trip with K-Life, and, like, they did make people shower together. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And I didn't, because I was uncomfortable with it, and I was made fun of for it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And while we were in the bunks, like, one of the dudes who was, like, our leader, he was a college dude, was running around naked, whipping, like, high schoolers with a towel. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Classic cisgender good behavior that no parent could object to. | ||
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| I've told that story to other people who went to Christian camps, and it's never like, I can't believe that happened. | ||
| I was like, yeah, something like that kind of happened. | ||
| I went naked ziplining. | ||
| Counselors are running around nude. | ||
| I went naked ziplining with a fucking Christian band all in their 20s who were camp counselors, and they... | ||
| They grabbed me out of bed at like 2 in the morning to go take me naked ziplining. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No one had a problem with this. | ||
| And those are not okay things that happen. | ||
| No! | ||
| And they are definitely more problematic than the story that Marjorie and Alex were responding to and made a transphobic meal out of. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| If any one of those band members was a they, then it would have been a problem. | ||
| Maybe not them, though. | ||
| Well, if they were... | ||
| It wasn't the hot issue for the GOP at that point. | ||
| It was a God camp. | ||
| If they were a they, it would have been trouble. | ||
| Fine. | ||
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| So, while she was in Austin, Alex and Marjorie apparently went to dinner, and they released a little six-minute video of him interviewing her, I guess, about how Nancy Pelosi doesn't wear masks enough. | ||
| It's a little dumb, and honestly, it has the feeling of a couple people drinking, and then one of them grabbing the camera and saying, oh, that was gold. | ||
| Say that thing you said so I can record it. | ||
| It's very clunky. | ||
| It's a six minute video, but actually only two minutes are Alex talking to Marjorie. | ||
| The other two thirds of the video is a compilation of people like Joe Rogan and Tim Poole talking about how right Alex is about everything. | ||
| Also, Marjorie says that she's going to be starting a podcast. | ||
| And it's hard to tell, but there are two possible impressions that this video is meant to convey. | ||
| One is that her podcast is going to be done through Infowars. | ||
| The other is that Alex desperately wants to give that impression, though it's not true. | ||
| I have no idea, but I would caution Marjorie against this plan. | ||
| She actually doesn't seem to have much to say, and I think if she did a podcast, it would overexpose her. | ||
| And honestly, I don't know how much of an actual committed audience she has. | ||
| You have to factor in the reality that most of her audience is probably a bit outside the normal podcast audience demographics and younger people who support her You know, like Nick Fuentes' followers, they look at her as just a useful tool to bring their white identity ideology closer to the mainstream. | ||
| She's not somebody who they would take the time to listen to. | ||
| She's a thing to them. | ||
| It would be a very sad moment when she's like, what do you mean? | ||
| I'm not a puppet, I'm a real boy. | ||
| And they're like, oh, lady, lady, come on. | ||
| That's nice of you. | ||
| Oh, you're so cute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, you and Joe Arpaio think we like you. | ||
| Oh, you guys are so ruffling their hair. | ||
| Anyway, this is all dumb. | ||
| Also dumb was Marjorie showing up on the War Room to chat with Owen, and we're not going to talk about that. | ||
| So some other dumb things happened over the next days, the last bit, in our present day. | ||
| The Washington Post story came out that they released a video of Roger Stone offering to give someone a pardon, or try and get someone a pardon for $100,000, and saying that Trump was the worst mistake in American history, and strangely really wanting to get out of town fast after things popped off at the Capitol on January 6th. | ||
| Really wild that he would want to do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The stuff about Trump was probably just him throwing a temper tantrum because Trump pardoned Steve Bannon and he hates Bannon. | ||
| And the selling a pardon thing is just good old-fashioned Roger Stone corruption. | ||
| But apparently Roger has decided to claim that those videos are deepfakes. | ||
| They're deepfakes! | ||
| Made by the North Koreans! | ||
| In a boat. | ||
| Disrupt the proper working of the heavenly features of Roger Stone. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| This is really dumb, but I guess it's good enough for the Infoars audience. | ||
| I don't particularly care about what Roger has to say anymore, if I'm being totally honest. | ||
| It seems really clear to me that the walls are closing in around him and that he's going to be increasingly combative until eventually he goes back to jail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's really disconcerting how many different groups that were involved in planning to riot on January 6th he was directly involved with. | ||
| I think that's something we're going to learn even more about in the future. | ||
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| Joshua James is the Oathkeeper member who pled guilty to seditious conspiracy, and guess what? | ||
| He was providing security for Roger Stone on January 5th, along with Stuart Rhodes' team leader for January 6th, Michael Simmons. | ||
| I bet he heard them talking. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| In addition to that, Roger was working really closely and even directly with Ali Alexander on Stop the Steal stuff, and Ali got a permit to hold an event on the Capitol grounds under false pretenses, which incidentally was the rally that Alex was trying to lead a mass of people to. | ||
| That doesn't sound like a problem at all. | ||
| Also, Roger has deep ties to the Proud Boys, the leadership of which just got arrested on conspiracy charges related to January 6th. | ||
| And if you read their indictment, it's super clear they plan to storm the Capitol well in advance. | ||
| I would say that if Roger isn't super guilty here, he has some real serious explaining and soul-searching to do about how he's mixed up with all these people who are planning to try to overthrow the government, and he had no idea what they were up to. | ||
| I'm looking forward to the moment in court where the defense lawyer is like, I would like to remind everybody we have a presumption of innocence in this country. | ||
| And then everybody in court laughs. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, but you're Roger Stone. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Anyway, Roger came around to whining about this article on The Post and then tried to get the audience to give him more money. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Well, he's going to need money to stop all those deep fakes. | ||
| Oh, so many deep fakes. | ||
| So Marjorie was in person with Alex on February 20th, and that's because she'd come to town to support Christian Collins in the GOP primary for Texas' 8th District. | ||
| Also present were Mike Lindell and Madison Cawthorn. | ||
| The heroes of our age! | ||
| They were coming in to support this Collins guy in the primary, and on March 1st, Collins lost to Morgan Luttrell, who got 52.2% of the vote to Collins' 22.2%. | ||
| Ooh, so close. | ||
| Doesn't seem like the combined powers of Mike Lindell, Madison Cawthorn, and Marjorie Taylor Greene can overcome a 30-point loss. | ||
| I mean, it's tough when you're behind that far, okay? | ||
| But it was close. | ||
| Maybe they weren't that far behind because they came. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Why would they come? | ||
| To rally for someone who was that far behind. | ||
| You wouldn't do that. | ||
| No. | ||
| You'd have to at least think it was close. | ||
| I mean... | ||
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| There would have to be some money involved. | ||
| There's probably some pillow money. | ||
| There's definitely some pillow money involved. | ||
| But still, you don't want to go and be like, I'm a headline in a rally. | ||
| Hitching my wagon to this tragic loser. | ||
| So then, on February 25th, Green was off to Orlando, where she spoke at Nick Fuentes'pseudo-Klan rally, and then at CPAC the next day. | ||
| People were a bit shocked and disillusioned by the depths of the G. GOP had sunk to where they're totally fine with somebody associating with somebody who started a pro-Putin chant at his rally and spoke positively about Hitler and saying the N-word one day and then they're being welcomed at the biggest GOP event of the year the next. | ||
| This helped give a little bit more attention to the profoundly hateful things that Green had said on Infowars a week prior to this and there were a few articles that got written about her appearance and how it strongly implied support for violence against trans people. | ||
| What grifters do in this kind of situation is double down. | ||
| They recognize that there's a tension in them thar hills, and they get to mining for it immediately. | ||
| The attention hijacking economy runs largely on outrage, so if someone's mad at you about something, the best way to keep that outrage and attention pipeline open is to do more of the thing that made people angry. | ||
| That's the trick! | ||
| Yeah, man! | ||
| Conversely, an elected official really has a responsibility to carry themselves with a little more dignity than that. | ||
| So naturally, Marjorie decided to double down and came back on Alex's show on Tuesday, March 8th, which is now what we will be getting into. | ||
| What? | ||
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What? | |
| Are you going to be mad at her? | ||
| What, is she going to lose her election? | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| No. | ||
| So just to check in here, Alex on March 8th is continuing his... | ||
| Boy, I love Putin, but I gotta say that I see both sides. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| And I'm not defending the Russian position, but I understand that. | ||
| How are you not? | ||
| And it was well known in all the big think tanks that doing this would make Russia go in, and Putin kept warning and kept warning, and he said two weeks ago on the eve of this, just say that you're not going to bring Ukraine into NATO, and I will not invade. | ||
| And stop shelling the East. | ||
| And stop trying to infiltrate and sabotage in the south area there at the port they've got that Russia annexed eight years ago because the West and Soros bragged that they overthrew Ukraine. | ||
| So stop meddling around in this area that we've seized from you illegally. | ||
| And also say that you're not going to let Ukraine into NATO, which, I mean... | ||
| Germany's chancellor did say that prior to... | ||
| Very specifically. | ||
| Out loud. | ||
| In the attempt to keep them from invading. | ||
| Yeah, so I mean, this is all just bullshit. | ||
| He's just towing the Putin line. | ||
| I do like how it's a warning, you know? | ||
| It's not... | ||
| A threat. | ||
| If you do these things, I will invade and murder a lot of people for fun and tragedy. | ||
| That's a warning. | ||
| Definitely not a threat. | ||
| So, Putin's a good guy. | ||
| He was just warning people. | ||
| Look out! | ||
| He was just like, hey, watch out! | ||
| There's a car coming, and I'm driving it, and I'm going to drive through your body. | ||
| Yeah, and if you step over there, I'm going to swerve. | ||
| I'm going to swerve and hit you there. | ||
| So, we had some big news. | ||
| That is that Alex is going to go on a little breaky again. | ||
| I was scheduled, and I'm still going right now, to go to California next week to be on some really big podcast and interview some huge folks and do some other meetings and things. | ||
| And I'm probably still going to go, but I'm watching this very carefully. | ||
| Things are so dangerous, World War III kickoff, I may not go. | ||
| I mean, that's how dangerous and how bad the situation is. | ||
| And just believe me, I got some interviews shut up out there that'll break the internet. | ||
| It'll be as big as my Joe Rogan podcast. | ||
| I mean, how could you top that? | ||
| Well, use your head. | ||
| There's not many ways to. | ||
| My guess is Russell Brand. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's my guess. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| He seems like the only person who really fits this description of being a large platform and someone who'd be stupid enough to let Alex come on and spew his shit unchallenged. | ||
| Tucker's based in New York, so it's not him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I feel like most people in California wouldn't have Alex on. | ||
| No. | ||
| Jimmy Dore is definitely dumb enough to have Alex on. | ||
| He would definitely do that. | ||
| I don't consider it entirely outside the realm of possibility that Bill Maher might be craven enough to have him on. | ||
| Like, what if he was on real time? | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| Oh, God, that'd be awesome. | ||
| I really wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| It's just so sad. | ||
| But he also said break the internet, so maybe it's like Kim Kardashian or Kanye? | ||
| If it was Kanye, that would break the internet. | ||
| I don't know if it would. | ||
| What, Alex Jones and Kanye? | ||
| Fuck, I would watch that. | ||
| And I don't pay attention to either of them anymore. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| I wouldn't be allowed. | ||
| I would find that surprising. | ||
| Donda 2 is the first album that I have... | ||
| Absolutely, categorically refuse to listen to. | ||
| Part of the press tour for that album, Infowars. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Donda was so bad that I refused to listen to Donda 2. That's how bad Donda was. | ||
| And if you have followed my career, I have written several hundreds of thousands of words about how much I like Kanye's music. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think that Russell Brand, Jimmy Dore, and Bill Maher, in that order of descending likelihood, are the people that I would put in the possible... | ||
| But honestly, if history is prelude, this thing's going to end up just being some weird podcast I've never heard of. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Somebody with a ton of audience that is so... | ||
| Like, niche that I've never... | ||
| I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he did Tim Dillon's podcast. | ||
| Is he in L.A.? | ||
| I don't think he is. | ||
| I think he moved to Texas. | ||
| Did he move to Texas? | ||
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Oh, well. | |
| I remember the talk of that. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But, yeah, if he's in L.A., I could see that. | ||
| I could see that. | ||
| I think that would be a given. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I mean, if you've been on Rogan with Dillon, Dillon's gotta have you on his show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And he doesn't care because he's a piece of shit. | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't really think of many other possibilities. | ||
| My big money is Russell Brand. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
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| So, yeah. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene is on on this March 8th episode for some reasons. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Some of them more interesting than others. | ||
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| This one is only more interesting by default because the rest of it's not very interesting. | ||
| When you were in studio with us a few weeks ago, you talked about this and said you introduced a bill. | ||
| You've done it today. | ||
| It's breaking news right now. | ||
| People can find the press release on your congressional site. | ||
| But tell us about this new bill you've introduced. | ||
| Well, my bill is the Congressional Voting Accountability Act. | ||
| I'm very excited about it since I've been a member of Congress. | ||
| I've spent a lot of time on the House floor calling for recorded votes. | ||
| Ah, the voice vote conundrum. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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Yup. | |
| So this is absolutely going nowhere, and then Marjorie will be able to make a huge deal out of how the evil government doesn't want accountability because they wouldn't accept her bill. | ||
| Essentially, this bill is a propaganda trap, and she knows exactly what she's doing. | ||
| designed to fail because of what it entails. | ||
| The bill would require the prohibition of not only taking voice votes in the House, but also would make it so representatives could only vote yay or nay, prohibiting them from voting present. | ||
| It's honestly hard to tell if Marjorie really doesn't understand the basics of how Congress works, or if this is really just a childish outburst of someone who doesn't get to do whatever she wants. | ||
| Under the current rules, anyone can call for a roll call vote if They disagree with the voice vote. | ||
| But in order to be taken to a roll call vote, one fifth of the quorum needs to agree to it. | ||
| Marjorie likely can't drum up one fifth of the House's support for her desire to slow down every piece of legislation to a complete halt, but she still wants to get her way, and this bill is an attempt to do that. | ||
| Yeah, you're just not gonna get 90 other people. | ||
| I mean, you can probably get 70-ish people in the House. | ||
| In the House or in both the Senate and the House? | ||
| Well, in just the House. | ||
| But also, the rules for how a quorum is taken, sometimes you only need 100 members to be there to make a quorum. | ||
| Oh, so you get the fifth of the quorum. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Not the fifth of the total. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And what is it, like 238 of the full House is a representative quorum. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| But still, like, whatever it is, she doesn't have numbers. | ||
| And like I said, there's no downside to this move that she's making. | ||
| This bill is gonna fail, and when it does, it'll be a prime opportunity to hijack everyone's attention with claims that the House is covering up their votes, which will feed into Marjorie's attention economy and revenue streams. | ||
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| This is just using the government as a tool to grift, and it's kind of boring. | ||
| I mean, literally, she must have introduced that, and everybody in the House went, oh, fuck. | ||
| This sucks. | ||
| Why don't you try to get Rittenhouse another medal? | ||
| Just stop. | ||
| Please grow up something. | ||
| So in this next clip, she talks a little bit more about what her bill would do. | ||
| It's very dumb. | ||
| Help people. | ||
| And the reason why this bill is so important is it would stop Congress from passing bills by voice vote. | ||
| That's where just there's a handful of members of Congress sitting on the House floor and they simply say yes and no. | ||
| Well, there's 435 members of Congress, Alex, and this bill would force every single member of Congress to actually have to vote and not vote by proxy, show up to work, and vote in person and on record so the American people can see our job performance. | ||
| It absolutely wouldn't do any of those things. | ||
| There's no way she could. | ||
| Wouldn't help. | ||
| Even the way the bill's written, because of the way the quorums are formed, it would not require everyone to come. | ||
| It's just ridiculous. | ||
| It's a complete waste. | ||
| Here's some fun for you. | ||
| In 1801, Thomas Jefferson wrote a text called The Manual of Parliamentary Practice, which Marjorie is explicitly calling to upend. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| When the debate is ended, the Speaker, holding the bill in his hand, puts the question for its passage by saying, Gentlemen, all of you who are of the opinion that this bill shall pass say aye, and after the answer of aye's, all of those of the contrary opinion say no. | ||
| The affirmative and negative of the question, having been both put and answered, the Speaker declares whether the yeas or nays have it by the sound, if he be himself satisfied, and it stands as the judgment of the House. | ||
| But if he be not himself satisfied, which voice is the greater, or if before any other member comes in the House or before any new motion made, any member shall arise and declare himself dissatisfied with the Speaker's decision. | ||
| If Alex had any understanding of the Founding Fathers he pretends he studied and idolizes, he would probably kick Marjorie Taylor Greene out of the studio for daring to propose a bill that spits in the face of Thomas Jefferson's rules for how the House conducts business. | ||
| They have no idea. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything. | ||
| And, I mean, it is one of those fun things where it's like, listen, those assholes wrote that shit 300 years ago. | ||
| Everybody knows this is... | ||
| Not tenable for the modern world, even these dum-dums. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because they don't care. | ||
| Right, but as long as you're citing Jefferson all the goddamn time, guess what? | ||
| You wrote that too, you dick. | ||
| You douchebag. | ||
| Yeah, you're actively promoting and endorsing somebody who wants to undo the Jeffersonian model of how the voice votes are taken in the house, and it's a disgrace to the tradition of America. | ||
| Dating back! | ||
| To Albion! | ||
| That one is hard to put on a meme. | ||
| So, I mean, as far as Thomas Jefferson quotes, that one doesn't go down in history quite as well. | ||
| I will tell you that reading that kind of language is not my strong suit. | ||
| There's words in places they don't belong. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Anyway, knowing this, that not only does voice voting go back to the literal beginning of the House of Representatives, it also predates the American government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is pretty funny. | ||
| Most people, when they hear the fact that they are voting without it being a record in many cases, can't believe that. | ||
| I mean, that is just amazing. | ||
| Do we know how long they've been pulling this trick? | ||
| They've been doing it for decades and decades. | ||
| Decades and decades. | ||
| Pulling this trick. | ||
| What are you guys doing? | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| What did we do? | ||
| Just put a camera... | ||
| They're just showing their ignorance entirely and lack of interest in how the government operates. | ||
| This is borderline... | ||
| This reminds me more of, like, those reaction videos where they give six-year-olds, like, a Super Nintendo, and they're like, what is this? | ||
| Is this a phone? | ||
| Did they use this in the olden days? | ||
| And you're like, yes, I get it. | ||
| I'm old. | ||
| I'm fine with this. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| This is them being like, I don't understand. | ||
| What is this government you speak of? | ||
| Right, or, like, you're in Horizon Forbidden West, and you find something. | ||
| They have a watch, and it's called a... | ||
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| Shiny gold eye or whatever. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| We get back to now the transphobic content. | ||
| And so just another warning. | ||
| It's about to dive back into that for a little bit. | ||
| Can't not. | ||
| Because there have been these articles written about Marjorie's comments on Alex's show. | ||
| And so part of her coming on is to announce this stupid bill that's going nowhere and is an affront to Thomas Jefferson's legacy. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| But the other part of it is to deal with the criticism that is being levied against her. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And boy, she... | ||
| We need to build a man of straw, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Yeah, more or less. | ||
| I mean, it's just about creating a fake version of her comments. | ||
| I know you can only do ten minutes with us today, but then a vote got pushed back, and you can go a little bit the next hour, but we're only going to keep you five minutes to the next hour because I want you to be able to respond to the lies. | ||
| And we're live right now, but later... | ||
| I'm going to take what you actually said in studio two weeks ago and then put it on the front so we can have a video to get out there to counter the fraud. | ||
| But just to start to give the preface of what happened, we were talking about men in girls' showers, biological men in front of little girls, and some of these men, it was in the news, have assaulted women and are being given light. | ||
| prison sentences and men are getting women pregnant in prison and raping them and you said my husband would beat them into the ground who doesn't agree that if a woman rapes a woman or a man rapes a woman or a little girl that they need to have their head beaten in you didn't say beat up rupaul on you know their tv show you didn't say beat up you know some some transgender person This isn't true. | ||
| Although Alex was in a deep hole of mostly fake stories that he uses to push intense hatred of trans people to his audience, Before Marjorie's comments, Marjorie wasn't responding to any of that stuff with her comments that led to violent talk. | ||
| Here's where things get a little bit complicated. | ||
| She was responding to a fake version of that story about Camp Pally when she said that her husband would beat somebody up, but ultimately, the only thing that triggered that response in her was that a non-binary person worked somewhere where kids were present. | ||
| The fact of this nonbinary person's existence in that space is enough for her to experience as an attack or violation on a child, so that's how they talk about it, and that leads to them fantasizing about committing violence. | ||
| But here's the tell that they know what they're doing. | ||
| In order to make their violent rhetoric seem defensible to their audience, they have to pretend that stories like the one from that camp are about grown men sleeping or showering with 5th grade girls, because if they actually expressed their real grievance, it would be way too obvious that they were full of hate and bigotry. | ||
| They don't come to their audience and say that they're mad that trans or non-binary people are allowed to have jobs in places where kids might be, because in reality what they're saying is that they don't think that children should have any exposure to trans or non-binary people, which ultimately leads to... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's really clear how this goes, because think about it. | ||
| Ultimately, what this story they're responding to is about is about a couple of parents who were uncomfortable. | ||
| Their kids came back from camp and said that they met a counselor who was non-binary. | ||
| There was no crime committed. | ||
| There was no problem. | ||
| It was just fifth graders meeting a non-binary person. | ||
| If this is enough to merit the reaction that Alex and Marjorie are having, then where would they draw the line? | ||
| Like, could trans or non-binary people work in retail? | ||
| Could they work in a library? | ||
| Could they be teachers? | ||
| You can easily see how much of society Alex and Marjorie wish to exclude people from under the pretend justification of protecting children or whatever. | ||
| But here are two things that they would never do. | ||
| They would never discuss the underlying stories as they really happened, because if they did, it would become way too clear that they're overreacting. | ||
| And they would never be honest about what they want, because if they did, their bigotry would be way too clear. | ||
| They only respond with grotesque bullshit and anger because that's the feeling they want their audience to experience and adopt towards trans and non-binary people. | ||
| Anger and a prejudice of fear that they pose a threat to children by their existence in public. | ||
| That's what they're pushing. | ||
| Emotions notorious for keeping you from reading another story immediately after being so angry. | ||
| Nobody's like, oh, I'm so furious! | ||
| I better look into this and make sure that they're accurate! | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a dead end for curiosity. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| This just happens repeatedly. | ||
| Just creating fake versions of her comments in order to justify things. | ||
| You were very clear that when men pose as women and sexually assault women and little girls, they need to be punished. | ||
| Yes, I was clear about that. | ||
| I talked with my husband about it, so it's easy for me to double down. | ||
| If there's a grown man, an adult biological man... | ||
| Dressing as a woman to be able to go into bathrooms, dorm rooms, going into women's private places, showers and so forth. | ||
| And we were talking about a camp. | ||
| We were talking about a children's camp. | ||
| And I believe this was adult biological men, camp counselors who identify as women were staying in fifth grade girls' bathrooms or dorms or camp. | ||
| Yes, yes, camp houses with fifth graders. | ||
| That's not what she said, and you can see even from this rewriting of her position how indefensible her comments were. | ||
| Marjorie is trying to rationalize her approval of violence by lying about the circumstances of the story from that camp. | ||
| If there was a camp counselor, regardless of gender, showering with the kids, and it makes a bit more sense to be incensed, but that's a fabrication that's just from her bigotry and the bigotry of the right-wing media that she consumes. | ||
| She's pushing a fake version of a real situation in order to justify her reaction of endorsing violence, and that's an essential element of this that she steadfastly refuses to accept, because she knows that She doesn't want an accurate image of this to be seen, that she's endorsing violence against trans and non-binary people who work anywhere that might involve children. | ||
| That's the position that she's actually expressing. | ||
| I don't want to sound like a broken record, but this is just disgusting behavior to see from someone who's in elected office. | ||
| No, she is... | ||
| Look, I mean, it is easy to be like, oh, it's an exaggeration or it's overblown or whatever, but... | ||
| The ultimate desire here is, if not complete eradication, then segregation. | ||
| It is going right back, and it's the same thing with everything. | ||
| It's going right back to, okay, trans kids cannot be in school with cisgender kids. | ||
| Trans kids cannot drink at the same fucking water fountains. | ||
| That is not an exaggeration. | ||
| That is the desire. | ||
| That is what they want. | ||
| Whether or not they're willing to do all the shit to get there. | ||
| I think it would manifest slightly differently. | ||
| Well, I mean, it would manifest differently. | ||
| It's not the same thing, yes. | ||
| You can tell from context clues that what they're expressing is essentially a desire to criminalize parents of LGBTQ non-binary children. | ||
| And so it would involve... | ||
| Arresting their parents. | ||
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| Re-education. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Sending them to camps. | ||
| The things that would be just terrible for Alex to support. | ||
| It seems like that's more in the line. | ||
| And then, like, direct repression. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trying to create societal situations where it would be just harsh penalties for not... | ||
| Living the way that someone like Marjorie would approve of people to live. | ||
| Yeah, they just want to torture people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So again, they're trying to pretend they're setting the record straight, but they're not. | ||
| And the media misrepresented and said that she wants trans people to be physically attacked. | ||
| But she never said that. | ||
| That's the corporate media. | ||
| Newsweek. | ||
| You name it. | ||
| Hundreds of publications misrepresented what she said. | ||
| So she's here to be able to set the record straight. | ||
| Congresswoman? | ||
| Thank you, Alex. | ||
| I'd love to set the record straight. | ||
| Well, as usual, the corporate media lies. | ||
| They always put the lies on the headline and then maybe the truth in the last paragraph of their article. | ||
| The truth is that biological men are assaulting or attacking anyone under the age of 18, especially children. | ||
| Yes, they deserve to be beat up. | ||
| And there's nothing wrong with saying that. | ||
| Corporate media and the radical leftists are completely detached from how parents feel and how the rest of America feels. | ||
| Not only do they deserve to be beat up, they deserve to be arrested, they deserve to be charged, and they deserve to go to prison. | ||
| This isn't setting the record straight. | ||
| It's lying. | ||
| If Marjorie's position was just that people who assault children should be arrested, or even if she understands that a parent's instinct would be to respond violently if their child was assaulted, that's fairly uncontroversial, and no one would really have wasted ink writing about her comments. | ||
| Not a word. | ||
| The problem and the issue that Marjorie and Alex will not disaggregate from their bullshit is that she and Alex believe that trans and non-binary people existing in public is in and of itself an assault on children. | ||
| They won't make this position that they hold clear because they know that to do so would mean some real problems, particularly for Marjorie, since she still has a lot to lose with the fundraising and stuff that being in the house gives her access to. | ||
| She's not relevant outside of being a lunatic who's in the house. | ||
| Then she has that to lose. | ||
| And if she doesn't have that, then she's got nothing. | ||
| She could maybe get a show on InfoWars, but this is a sinking ship. | ||
| When Marjorie said what she said, she was responding to a story that had nothing to do with violence or children being assaulted. | ||
| She imagined that that was the case because of her underlying bigotries that equates trans and non-binary existence to a threat. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, a lot of this is really, you just want to boil it down to be like, listen. | ||
| Do you want to improve things, or do you want to do things that satisfy you emotionally, I guess? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, it's very satisfying emotionally to be angry. | ||
| Hey, buddy, you're not going to get a straight answer to that. | ||
| Yeah, well, ain't that the truth? | ||
| Hey, what if satisfying myself emotionally is what I call making things better? | ||
| Ah, see, but it's not! | ||
| It's not, what if you did make things better and it didn't satisfy you emotionally? | ||
| Would that be preferable? | ||
| And the answer is no. | ||
| Not for them. | ||
| Not for them. | ||
| So anyway, we have one last clip here. | ||
| And again, it's just Marjorie trying to pretend that there's a justification for what she said. | ||
| Now, biological men are trying to act like they're women as camp counselors going into showers with fifth graders or sleeping in their cabins with other little girls or boys. | ||
| That is completely wrong. | ||
| And it's okay for me to say that they might... | ||
| They might need a lesson. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with that, and I'll double down and I'll say it again. | ||
| It's not about hating trans people or anyone. | ||
| It's about hating children being targeted sexually, undoubtedly. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| That story isn't, like, that's not an element of this story. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| If it were, I think her comments would still be wildly inappropriate and unbecoming of somebody who's in an elected office. | ||
| She's just lying in order to soften what she's saying or make it more defensible, and it is not. | ||
| Her commentary is not defensible. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| I don't know what to say, really, outside of it's nuts that she's coming on Infowars a bit. | ||
| I mean, even Trump only showed up once. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And again, it was mostly to show his book. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But she's coming on, and there is a part of me that's keenly aware that a midterm is coming up, and it might just be something where it's like, ah, maybe I'll be able to get some voters out of this. | ||
| But it's a bit more of a connection than it appeared previously. | ||
| And the way it's manifesting is predictable and also troubling. | ||
| It's predictable in the sense that... | ||
| She's trying to sell these stupid right-wing publicity stunt bills to his audience to get everyone excited and create these narratives around the house is hiding everything they do behind voice votes or whatever the fuck. | ||
| There's that. | ||
| That's standard. | ||
| That's what you expect from an Infowars person. | ||
| But there is a level of... | ||
| The transphobic rhetoric that is being deployed by her and Alex in conjunction with her that is further than some of the stuff that maybe happens on a more regular basis. | ||
| And that's not good. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| I mean, even if the story was exactly what she characterized it as. | ||
| Even if she was 100% getting the story itself right. | ||
| It is still not about biological men causing harm to women or children. | ||
| It's about one person who's committed a crime. | ||
| But again, most importantly, it's not about men. | ||
| It's not about men, period. | ||
| It is about trans people. | ||
| And it is not... | ||
| So whenever she says biological man... | ||
| In a specific case, non-binary person. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| It's not even that. | ||
| It's just anybody outside of the fucking norm or whatever. | ||
| Anybody outside of the binary. | ||
| What she considers to be normal. | ||
| But again, it is still not about men. | ||
| There is plenty of violence that men do against women that she is 100% fine with. | ||
| It is not about violence against women or children. | ||
| Oh, she went on tour with Matt Gaetz. | ||
| It is about bigotry. | ||
| Yeah, it is entirely... | ||
| Well, yeah, she went on tour with a... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, I... | ||
| So that's a lie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even her characterization of everything's a fucking lie. | ||
| Everything's a fucking lie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I have a tough time putting any kind of summation on this other than to say, like, I find this deeply troubling and I think it's something that, you know, deserves to have, you know, an eye cast upon it. | ||
| You know, I don't think it's something that should be overlooked, obviously. | ||
| I think it's a bad enough thing when a sitting person in Congress... | ||
| Who's not named Ron Paul, shows up on Alex's show. | ||
| I think that's a problem. | ||
| And then when the content is like this, it's just... | ||
| And then it's also a person who spoke at Fuentes' bullshit. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the summation is, like, care for and protect trans people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Do as much of that as you can. | ||
| I mean, just making them... | ||
| On a functional level. | ||
| Just making them happy. | ||
| Happy trans people is a fucking... | ||
| Terrorizing thing to the right. | ||
| Don't use violence. | ||
| Help people. | ||
| Yeah, I think that obviously is the most important thing that people can do. | ||
| And then, I don't know, vote for Jennifer Strahan at the GOP primary in Georgia. | ||
| Find some way to stop these people. | ||
| I think that Marjorie Taylor Greene is somebody who... | ||
| Getting outraged at her feeds the cycle. | ||
| And you can see how this writing about her and her comments leads to her being able to do a victory lap on Alex's show and double down on stuff and create a larger false presentation of what she was saying. | ||
| And she's vulnerable in the GOP primary. | ||
| There have been polls that have shown that there is a possibility that someone could beat her in that primary. | ||
| And, hey, I feel like it's entirely possible. | ||
| She has no place to be in government. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| If not only for her incredibly horrible positions, then also for her clear lack of understanding of literally anything about civics. | ||
| And that she's a corrupt, corrupt politician. | ||
| Well, that's kind of... | ||
| That's par for the course. | ||
| Right, for sure. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back with another episode. | ||
| Maybe talk. | ||
| More about Russia, or maybe we'll cover Alex's appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We also are on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight and at GoToBedJordan. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Dr. Marbles. | ||
| And now, here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. |
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