Knowledge Fight - #656: March 5, 2022
Aired: 2022-03-07
Duration: 02:14:46


=== Dan's Bright Spot (03:34) ===

[00:00:21]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:30]  Dan and George.
[00:00:30]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:32]  Need money.
[00:00:36]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:40]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:42]  Stop it.
[00:00:42]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:44]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:46]  Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
[00:00:49]  I love you.
[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody.
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:00]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:01]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:06]  Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Dan!
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:09]  Quick question for you.
[00:01:10]  What's up?
[00:01:10]  What was your bright spot today?
[00:01:11]  My bright spot today, Jordan, is that we got a little Zip package in the mail.
[00:01:17]  And it was a big old box of candy from Lee.
[00:01:22]  And I don't see it, so it was a really enjoyable box.
[00:01:25]  No, no, there's still a fair amount of it left.
[00:01:27]  I've eaten a bit.
[00:01:29]  But that leads me to have to say, stop it!
[00:01:33]  But I appreciate it.
[00:01:35]  But I appreciate it.
[00:01:36]  Oh, God.
[00:01:38]  I'm going to eat so much candy.
[00:01:40]  Oh, my God.
[00:01:41]  It's great.
[00:01:42]  There's some Hobnobs and Willy Wheels.
[00:01:47]  I don't know.
[00:01:48]  They're fanciful-ass names these British candies have.
[00:01:51]  Goddamn candies.
[00:01:52]  I do love the Hobnob, though.
[00:01:54]  The oat.
[00:01:54]  So good.
[00:01:55]  Oh, man.
[00:01:56]  British candies are better than ours, man.
[00:01:57]  So I should say that the candies are for me, and then there's some weird pickles and Marmite that's for you.
[00:02:05]  Well, that's very nice.
[00:02:06]  I love Marmite.
[00:02:07]  Very specifically, there's no note that says that, but I've decided that's the intention.
[00:02:12]  Yeah, I think that makes perfect sense.
[00:02:14]  Oh, you're also supposed to get the raisins.
[00:02:19]  The raisins ones.
[00:02:19]  Because you don't like those.
[00:02:22]  Somebody wouldn't send...
[00:02:23]  Us raisins knowing that you don't like them unless they specifically wanted me to have them.
[00:02:28]  Exactly.
[00:02:29]  That makes perfect sense.
[00:02:29]  You gotta consider intent.
[00:02:30]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:02:31]  No, I understand.
[00:02:32]  So what about you?
[00:02:33]  My bright spot, Dan, is I went out last night with my partner and her teacher friends to a bar.
[00:02:43]  Worst place I've ever been to in my life.
[00:02:44]  It was awful.
[00:02:46]  It was like a giant frat tailgate party on the roof.
[00:02:49]  I'm not going to name the place, but it's awful.
[00:02:52]  And it was just...
[00:02:54]  It was so great.
[00:02:56]  For one reason only.
[00:02:57]  Giving a vague Yelp review here.
[00:02:59]  No, for one reason only.
[00:03:01]  The teachers are all struggling with their principal at school.
[00:03:05]  The school's name, I don't want to give it.
[00:03:08]  However, there was a giant...
[00:03:11]  Cut out of a football player from the Bears, number 34. And just so appropriately, the wind knocked it over onto one of the teachers' heads as just a metaphor for how they're doing at school.
[00:03:28]  And it's just fantastic.
[00:03:29]  Was this football player one who is known to tackle people?
[00:03:32]  He was not known to tackle people.
[00:03:33]  Okay, so it's actually out of character for the standee.
[00:03:36]  Yes, exactly.
[00:03:38]  Well, that's fun.
[00:03:38]  Yeah.
[00:03:39]  It was emblematic and appropriate.

=== Alex Needs Breaks (05:11) ===

[00:03:41]  Awesome.
[00:03:41]  I'm glad you had a good time out last night because I didn't.
[00:03:44]  Oh, I'm sorry, Dan.
[00:03:46]  I was in.
[00:03:46]  I know.
[00:03:47]  So here's the deal.
[00:03:49]  We have an episode to go over and it's Alex's Saturday emergency broadcast from March 5th.
[00:03:55]  Right.
[00:03:56]  And yeah, that's why I'm complaining because you were out having a good time with the teachers.
[00:04:00]  I was out having a good time with the teachers.
[00:04:01]  And Alex released this in the evening of last night and so flipping it around in order for us to get it out.
[00:04:07]  Has been a challenge.
[00:04:09]  Yeah.
[00:04:09]  It sucked.
[00:04:11]  And, you know, there's no real other option because Alex was on a breakie.
[00:04:15]  He was out of studio until Friday and...
[00:04:18]  So here we are, and I'm mad about it.
[00:04:21]  Is the special report in studio, or is it from the woods?
[00:04:24]  It's in studio.
[00:04:26]  Spiritually, his heart may still be in the woods, but he wasn't actually in the woods.
[00:04:30]  He reveals he was in Florida.
[00:04:31]  What?
[00:04:31]  He went to Florida.
[00:04:32]  Oh, boo.
[00:04:33]  Probably having high-level meetings with DeSantis.
[00:04:35]  You would assume so.
[00:04:36]  Yeah, so there's a lot of bullshit going on here, and I'm not saying that in the big picture my patience has worn out.
[00:04:46]  But my patience wears out a little bit on the way through this episode, I will say.
[00:04:51]  We take a journey.
[00:04:52]  I'm sick of his bullshit.
[00:04:55]  It's two and a half hours long, this special report, and maybe at an hour twenty.
[00:05:00]  I was ready to send him to the moon.
[00:05:05]  So we'll get to business on this, Jordan, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
[00:05:09]  Oh, that's a great idea!
[00:05:11]  So first, waking up my partner with Alex Jones saying I love you is going to ruin my relationship.
[00:05:15]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:16]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:17]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:18]  Thank you very much.
[00:05:19]  Next, you were then a wallacy ponk.
[00:05:21]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:21]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:23]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:24]  Thank you very much.
[00:05:25]  Next, what's next?
[00:05:26]  We kiss vaccinated goblins, boosted goblins.
[00:05:28]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:29]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:30]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:31]  Yes.
[00:05:33]  Thanks, too.
[00:05:34]  I came for the shrieks and stayed for the freaks.
[00:05:37]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:37]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:38]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:40]  Thank you very much.
[00:05:41]  And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
[00:05:43]  So thank you so much to our dear Lord, Lord Satan.
[00:05:46]  Satan!
[00:05:46]  Satan!
[00:05:47]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:47]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:05:49]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:50]  I have risen above my enemies.
[00:05:53]  I might quit tomorrow, actually.
[00:05:55]  I'm just going to take a little break now.
[00:05:58]  A little bricky for me, and then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over.
[00:06:07]  But I'm the devil!
[00:06:08]  I've got to be taken off the air!
[00:06:09]  Fuck you!
[00:06:12]  Fuck you!
[00:06:13]  I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
[00:06:21]  Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
[00:06:23]  Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
[00:06:27]  Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
[00:06:31]  That's really what I want to do.
[00:06:33]  I never want to come back here again.
[00:06:35]  I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
[00:06:42]  I'll be better tomorrow.
[00:06:44]  He's not.
[00:06:44]  He's not?
[00:06:45]  Here's part of the reason.
[00:06:46]  I was saying I was like, you know, lose my patience.
[00:06:48]  I'm frustrated.
[00:06:49]  I don't tend to have a history of watching Alex's Saturday special reports that he puts out periodically.
[00:06:56]  They're long, and typically he's interviewing people I'm not really all that interested in, and so I usually give them a pass.
[00:07:05]  Listening to this made me realize a couple things.
[00:07:07]  One, Alex needs commercial breaks.
[00:07:10]  Because without them, this gets unbearable.
[00:07:15]  Even for me, just him talking without music coming in and him singing over you belong to the city or whatever.
[00:07:23]  Without that, this is a struggle.
[00:07:26]  Like a two-hour lecture that Alex is giving.
[00:07:29]  No, that's no good.
[00:07:30]  Essentially uninterrupted except by periodic, like, hey, you know what?
[00:07:34]  I got iodine.
[00:07:35]  Like, it's rough.
[00:07:37]  That's brutal.
[00:07:38]  It is...
[00:07:39]  And it's really hard, too, because what he's doing is trying to weave from topic to topic.
[00:07:45]  Right.
[00:07:46]  It's disorienting and stupid.
[00:07:49]  I mean, he needs breaks to head towards.
[00:07:52]  Without the momentum downslope towards the break, the whole thing is just shit.
[00:07:58]  My guy needs off-ramps.
[00:07:59]  He needs off-ramps!
[00:08:00]  Because half of the show is leading towards the off-ramps.
[00:08:03]  Right.
[00:08:04]  It's building towards the point where he can do a plug and then go to commercial.
[00:08:08]  Right!
[00:08:09]  It's like a semi without the ability to drive anymore, but it's going downhill, so as long as you can, you know, use the brakes right, you can keep moving.
[00:08:19]  Right, and there's an element of his show that does involve, like, sort of dramatic tension, and that is based on the timing of the brakes.
[00:08:26]  We have to get to this.
[00:08:27]  Right, right, right.
[00:08:28]  We gotta go to brake, and then...
[00:08:30]  It conceivably will have a new thought that begins on the other side of the break.
[00:08:34]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:08:34]  Or we'll continue this, but we'll have gotten to a stopping point.

=== NATO's Role in Putin's Justification (15:44) ===

[00:08:37]  Without the breaks, holy shit.
[00:08:40]  It's just...
[00:08:41]  You get lost, man.
[00:08:43]  Yeah.
[00:08:43]  You feel high.
[00:08:44]  If the Oscars didn't have the music to play people off, you'd be fucked watching it.
[00:08:48]  It'd be long.
[00:08:48]  Yeah.
[00:08:50]  Some people would abuse the privilege.
[00:08:51]  Oh, of course.
[00:08:52]  So we start off at the beginning of this here report.
[00:08:56]  Okay.
[00:08:56]  And Alex is naturally talking about some Russia-Ukraine news.
[00:09:00]  Okay.
[00:09:01]  And he's got some really, really accurate, up-to-date news.
[00:09:04]  Oh, that's good.
[00:09:04]  Putin has warned that any no-fly zone in any country entering militarily will be counted as an act of war, and that the exact second, the very second that...
[00:09:15]  Any nation joins in with Ukraine in attacking Russian forces that Russia will be at war with that country.
[00:09:26]  Germany has responded and said that Ukraine's NATO membership will not take place, says the German Chancellor.
[00:09:34]  That's Schultz.
[00:09:35]  That's something that Putin was asking for before he launched this invasion.
[00:09:41]  So, on the one hand, this is kind of a meaningless piece of news that Alex is covering, but if you consider the point of what he's saying, you can kind of deduce a tone that will be verified as we go along.
[00:09:52]  When I say this is meaningless, it's because these aren't news items, and they're not unexpected.
[00:09:57]  Of course, Putin would say that putting in a no-fly zone over Ukraine would be considered by him to be an act of war, and he would naturally threaten to be at war with any country that decides to put one in place.
[00:10:07]  That's not a novel position, and it's not news, really.
[00:10:10]  The idea of setting up a no-fly zone would be if a Russian plane were to fly into the no-fly zone, it would be attacked by a plane.
[00:10:18]  So that would be an act of war.
[00:10:20]  Right.
[00:10:21]  It's very simple.
[00:10:22]  And it's not something that hasn't already been understood.
[00:10:25]  Yeah, everybody knows that.
[00:10:26]  Prior to the invasion...
[00:10:28]  When the invasion happened.
[00:10:29]  The whole thing, everybody was like, if we wanted to, we would have already done it.
[00:10:32]  Right.
[00:10:32]  Simultaneously, it's also not news to say that Germany is commenting that Ukraine won't be put into NATO, but that needs to be understood in context.
[00:10:41]  Prior to the invasion, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz was saying that there was no plan to bring Ukraine into the group and had very strong hands-off perspectives about sending aid.
[00:10:52]  In the lead-up to the invasion, they banned any other country from sending German-made weapons to help the Ukrainians, and the extent of their support was just sending some helmets and $5 million for a field hospital.
[00:11:03]  However, the invasion was a very serious turning point in terms of how Germany, and Schulz's government in particular, feels about their place in the greater scheme of European affairs.
[00:11:13]  After Putin invaded, Germany went back on their long-standing prohibition of providing lethal aid and sent anti-tank weapons and stinger defense systems to Ukraine, which honestly is a huge deal.
[00:11:24]  Scholz gave a speech in front of the Bundestag on February 27th, which signaled a complete change of policy in German international affairs.
[00:11:32]  Quote, With the attack on Ukraine, the Russian President Putin has started a war of aggression in cold blood.
[00:11:44]  Scholz clearly laid out the aggression on Ukraine as being a clear and immediate threat to the security of the whole of Europe and proposed a multi-pronged plan.
[00:11:52]  The first element was supporting Ukraine.
[00:11:54]  The second was an attempt to, quote, divert Putin from the path of war, largely by way of economic sanctions and embargoes.
[00:12:01]  The third was stopping any possible sprawl in the war by unconditionally defending any NATO member country, in particular by beefing up presence in countries like Romania and Lithuania.
[00:12:12]  The fourth was coming to terms with the fact that Putin is in fact intent on building a larger empire.
[00:12:17]  And the fifth was rethinking energy supplies.
[00:12:21]  This was a strong statement of participation in the isolation of Putin and the recognition of the need to support the people in Putin's path.
[00:12:29]  This is a far cry from the position coming from Scholz a mere week prior, and that's notable because Germany was the main country, along with Macron from France, who were engaged in the peace talks with Putin prior to the invasion.
[00:12:42]  There's a real feeling here that this is someone who was deeply involved in the attempt to avert the invasion, responding to that invasion with a change in tone.
[00:12:54]  It's almost as though in those negotiations he was under the impression that absolutely we would be able at the very least to have a good faith conversation about peace.
[00:13:06]  And he's probably figured out that that was never part of the fucking game.
[00:13:10]  I've heard that suggested by folks, and I think that's a very possible interpretation of these events.
[00:13:16]  Yeah.
[00:13:16]  So here's where the angle in Alex's commentary comes in.
[00:13:20]  He's trying to paint a picture where the reality is that Putin is getting what he wanted out of the invasion.
[00:13:25]  Mm-hmm.
[00:13:51]  What Alex is doing is attempting to create the image of a victory for Putin, but it's nothing of the sort.
[00:13:56]  Ukraine wasn't going to be joining NATO anytime soon, even if their path toward membership was still on the table and a future possibility.
[00:14:04]  The notion that they were going to be joining and that it was a done deal was part of Putin's justification for his invasion.
[00:14:11]  And Alex is essentially playing along with that entire framing of the situation.
[00:14:15]  Like, Ukraine was going to go into NATO, which Putin didn't want, so he invaded, and now they're not going to.
[00:14:24]  Mm-hmm.
[00:14:28]  Mm-hmm.
[00:14:34]  It may be the case that they rethink some other things, too, like the prospect of supporting Ukraine's bid to join NATO.
[00:14:39]  I'm not saying that's necessarily going to be the case, but if anything, it seems like this invasion could make that more likely.
[00:14:45]  Oh, yeah.
[00:14:45]  As well as the possibility that people understand the need to protect other countries.
[00:14:50]  Oh, I mean, there's no doubt the invasion happened and more and more countries immediately were like, let's join NATO!
[00:14:57]  I think that's a way better place to be than the guys being invaded right now.
[00:15:01]  Yeah, you look at what's happening.
[00:15:02]  Let's join the EU.
[00:15:03]  Let's join NATO.
[00:15:04]  Let's get in there, man.
[00:15:05]  Let's really fucking mix it up.
[00:15:07]  This wouldn't be happening if we had the backing of the obligation of the rest of the world, essentially.
[00:15:13]  Or a lot of the rest of the world.
[00:15:15]  Yeah.
[00:15:15]  Yeah, so this is a strange way that Alex is starting out the show.
[00:15:20]  It gives you a real sense of...
[00:15:23]  Putin fandom.
[00:15:24]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:15:26]  The best way to keep Ukraine from joining NATO is to install a pro-Putin regime.
[00:15:32]  That's usually the best way.
[00:15:34]  It seems to have worked historically.
[00:15:35]  Yeah, traditionally.
[00:15:36]  I think that might be something that's on the table.
[00:15:38]  It's kind of an outcome that they're going for.
[00:15:40]  Yeah.
[00:15:41]  So, Alex has some other ideas about this here invasion that are dumb.
[00:15:47]  We just aired that incredible report that's so important.
[00:15:49]  Pentagon funded bioweapons lab in Ukraine.
[00:15:51]  It is confirmed by U.S. government documents that they tried to take down.
[00:15:56]  So that's not fake news.
[00:15:57]  The Russians did seize those.
[00:15:59]  So this is essentially a QAnon narrative that Alex must have seen someone post a meme about on social media and he's decided to report on as if he did some kind of a deep dive on the subject.
[00:16:08]  What's fascinating about this is that this conspiracy actually predates COVID and has been a topic heavily pushed by the Russian state media for years.
[00:16:16]  Predictably, this brand of conspiracy was deployed to shift blame around after Russia poisoned Sergei Skripal and his daughter with a nerve agent.
[00:16:25]  The U.S. does help fund some labs in countries like Ukraine and Georgia, but the reasoning behind that is pretty simple.
[00:16:31]  After the Soviet Union broke up, there were remnants of old chemical and biological agents that had to be tested on, and much of that research that could be done on these things was being done in unsafe locations.
[00:16:42]  The U.S. and Ukraine entered into a weapons proliferation treaty in 2005 that was centered around offering funding to modernize these facilities that Ukraine was already operating so that they would have a far lower risk of something going terribly wrong, these nerve agents and chemical weapons getting out.
[00:16:58]  Yeah, that's wise.
[00:16:59]  This involved a certain amount of information sharing, but ultimately the Ukrainian Ministry of Health was still in charge of these facilities.
[00:17:05]  Flash forward to the COVID pandemic breaking out and you see Russia and China both putting forth theories that the virus was made in a lab in Ukraine.
[00:17:12]  The reasons for this served a number of purposes for each country.
[00:17:22]  And for Russia, it allowed Putin to present Western involvement in and the Ukrainian government as a whole as a threat to Russia, which would then justify hostile action against them or at least rationalize continued hostilities in the Donbass region.
[00:17:35]  Right.
[00:17:35]  Just because it's not true doesn't mean it's not useful.
[00:17:38]  Right.
[00:17:38]  This conspiracy theory as a whole didn't go anywhere in the early days of the pandemic.
[00:17:42]  There were just too many shiny objects distracting conspiracy theorists.
[00:17:46]  An old battle over ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and the election in January 6th.
[00:17:50]  All this stuff took the attention away of people like Alex and they lost track of this.
[00:17:54]  Right.
[00:17:55]  But now that Russia has invaded Ukraine, conspiracy theorists are on the hunt for anything that can intrigue people and also make Putin's invasion justifiable to their audiences.
[00:18:03]  So this old nugget is getting another chance at the spotlight.
[00:18:06]  Up to this point, I've really only heard this theory getting play on QAnon outlets, so I guess Alex has just decided, like, maybe I'll give it a shot.
[00:18:14]  Can't beat him, join him.
[00:18:15]  It's really bad, and the only reason you report on something like this, let alone lead your program with it, is if you're trying to find ways to make Putin look good.
[00:18:24]  Like, sure, he's bombing civilian targets and waging an unnecessary war of aggression, but secretly he's trying to shut down these U.S.-run biological weapons labs, man.
[00:18:33]  He's creating a heroic story for his listeners to accept so they don't get the idea in their head that Putin is bad.
[00:18:39]  I'm not sure if Alex thinks he's being subtle about this, but it actually seems hard to imagine a way he could be more insidiously trying to get his audience to support Putin while trying to couch his commentary and like...
[00:18:50]  I don't know, plausible deniability.
[00:18:52]  Hey, listen, this is an unjust war, unless Putin saves all of us from a biological warfare issue.
[00:18:59]  He's just trying to stop the next COVID.
[00:19:00]  He's just trying to save the world, and all of us are just getting in his way?
[00:19:05]  What are we doing?
[00:19:07]  Right.
[00:19:07]  It's the globalists, man!
[00:19:09]  That's the thrust of the...
[00:19:11]  This narrative being deployed.
[00:19:13]  It's fucked up.
[00:19:14]  It's 100% okay to publicly murder people, but as long as you're secretly saving the world from bioweapons that don't exist.
[00:19:22]  As long as we can come up with a fake secret reason that you're doing the things you're doing, hey, it's game on.
[00:19:28]  It's all good for us.
[00:19:29]  So, Alex has some concerns about the way things are going.
[00:19:33]  Mostly that, look, I don't like to have to bring this up, but All Ukrainians are liars, apparently.
[00:19:43]  Evacuation, ceasefire breaks down, we're being told.
[00:19:46]  But we don't know if any of that's true because Zelensky and Ukraine and the mainstream media lie about everything.
[00:19:51]  And again, I'm not siding with Russia, but I don't siding with these liars either.
[00:19:55]  You can't believe a damn thing they say, like the attack on the reactor, and that it was melting down and leaking.
[00:20:00]  None of that was true.
[00:20:01]  The ghost of Kiev, the Snake Island.
[00:20:06]  The list goes on and on.
[00:20:08]  You'll notice that Alex doesn't struggle with statements like this when Putin makes them.
[00:20:12]  He doesn't say that Putin has said something, but who knows if it's true because he's a liar.
[00:20:17]  That kind of skepticism is reserved for claims from and about Ukraine, and there's a utility to this as well.
[00:20:23]  It's an attempt to give his audience permission to not believe claims that Russian troops are not honoring things like civilian corridors where non-combatants can leave besieged cities, which is something that has been reported.
[00:20:35]  There was an agreement to allow citizens to leave Mariupol that was ceased after reports were that Russian forces continued shelling the city, not honoring the ceasefire, which is an attack on civilians.
[00:20:48]  Well, you could call that a lie.
[00:20:50]  Uh-huh.
[00:20:50]  War crime.
[00:20:51]  Yeah.
[00:20:51]  So Alex doesn't want that image to even be considered possible for his audience because then they might start asking too many questions and that looks bad for him.
[00:21:00]  Yeah.
[00:21:00]  I want to look at these examples that Alex lists in order to justify his claims that Zelensky and Ukraine lie about everything to see if there's any ground to stand on here.
[00:21:09]  In these sorts of conflicts, there are obviously some things that get played up for PR and to appeal to the international community.
[00:21:15]  That's part of information warfare.
[00:21:17]  But the question becomes, what is the nature of the thing that's being used for information warfare?
[00:21:24]  Obviously lying about an atrocity, whether saying one did happen when it didn't or saying one didn't when it did, is an evil form of information warfare.
[00:21:32]  Alex engages in this kind of action constantly, most notably with his lies and denial regarding Syria and Assad's use of chemical weapons.
[00:21:40]  As far as I can tell, there's no instances of anything rising to that level coming from Zelensky, nor does Alex even have a list that ranks anywhere close.
[00:21:50]  The first thing Alex claims is that the attack on the reactor was a lie, or that the idea that it was melting down and leaking is a lie.
[00:21:57]  People on Twitter definitely went a bit overboard with that, but that attack definitely did happen.
[00:22:03]  As the firing on the plant went on, Dmitry Kuleba, Ukraine's foreign affairs minister, tweeted, quote, Russian army is firing on all sides from Zapor, I'm not even going to try, a nuclear power plant, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe.
[00:22:16]  Fire has already broken out.
[00:22:18]  If it blows up, it will be ten times larger than Chernobyl.
[00:22:21]  Russians must immediately seize fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone.
[00:22:26]  This, you could say, is sensational.
[00:22:28]  Possibly, you know, if you wanted to.
[00:22:31]  Or you could say that it was a person who was concerned that a nuclear power plant was on fire and that something needed to be done about it.
[00:22:37]  You could say that the comments he made were possibly inaccurate or over the top, but that's not a lie, really.
[00:22:44]  I mean, I get...
[00:22:46]  Because there were tons of people who were coming back with sober, like, listen, here are all the safety measures, here are all the things, it's...
[00:22:54]  Probably not going to explode.
[00:22:56]  It's dangerous.
[00:22:57]  It's bad, but it's not going to be like a movie.
[00:23:00]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:23:00]  Don't fucking freak out.
[00:23:02]  There's not going to be a giant mushroom cloud that covers all of Europe.
[00:23:06]  At the same time, they were shooting rockets at a nuclear power plant, man.
[00:23:10]  That's not a joke.
[00:23:11]  Right, right.
[00:23:13]  So, regardless of any possible overstatements by the Foreign Affairs Minister, what Alex is doing here is trying to whitewash the shocking act of the Russian military targeting nuclear power plant in a pretty dangerous way.
[00:23:24]  Yeah.
[00:23:24]  I don't know if this counts as, like, ha-ha, such a lie that you shouldn't believe anything these people say.
[00:23:31]  Yeah.
[00:23:31]  The second supposed lie Alex brings up is the Ghost of Kiev.
[00:23:35]  The story that went around on the first day of the invasion about an ace pilot who had shot down multiple Russian air units.
[00:23:41]  Everybody fucking loves an ace pilot.
[00:23:43]  Yeah, so does Snoopy.
[00:23:44]  Yeah, I mean, it's just America.
[00:23:46]  Initially, a video went around that was supposedly of a pilot who was being called the Ghost of Kiev shooting down a Russian plane.
[00:23:52]  But it turned out this was footage from a video game, Digital Combat Simulator World.
[00:23:56]  Yeah.
[00:23:57]  Other pictures supposedly of him have all been shown to be fake, and ultimately this is a situation where this person may be not a real single person.
[00:24:05]  There are a couple aspects of this that make it not the same as the malicious sort of information warfare that we've discussed Alex participating in.

=== Why Belief Trumps Evidence (03:40) ===

[00:24:12]  There's no indication that the government started this story, as it appears to have just popped up on social media, which does make a difference.
[00:24:19]  Also, the intention here is very clear.
[00:24:21]  A huge fear in terms of the matchup between Ukraine and Russia was that Russia had almost comical air superiority, and that would be Ukraine's downfall.
[00:24:29]  By people on social media amplifying a folktale about a mysterious fighter pilot with an ominous It was a piece of information warfare that served only the purpose of raising morale, and I don't think that's the kind of thing you should really consider so heinous as to brand an entire country and their leader as a liar, especially considering it was a story that came out of social media.
[00:24:52]  I don't think this works.
[00:24:53]  It's not like Zelensky made up the Ghost of Kiev story and was like, let's get this out there and do that whole thing.
[00:25:00]  The third example Alex uses is Snake Island, and that's actually one of the worst cases he could point to.
[00:25:06]  Initially, the story was that these people who were stationed at Snake Island told the Russian boat to fuck themselves, and then they died.
[00:25:12]  Or at least it was assumed they died, because all radio contact with them was lost.
[00:25:16]  There was shelling, and no one knew what happened, so it was assumed they had died.
[00:25:20]  Right.
[00:25:21]  As it turns out, they were taken hostage by the Russian troops and are still alive.
[00:25:25]  This wasn't known until Russia released footage of them being held in Crimea.
[00:25:29]  This doesn't actually change the real powerful part of the story, though, which is still true.
[00:25:33]  The thing that people responded to so strongly in that story was the audio of the Russian boat telling them to surrender and them telling the boat to fuck off.
[00:25:44]  Atomically overwhelming odds.
[00:25:46]  That is true.
[00:25:47]  And they tried to repel the Russian attack, but ultimately ran out of ammo.
[00:25:50]  In the end, they were captured, but that moment of telling the Russian troops to fuck themselves was real, and the attempt to fight them off was real, and that's what people were responding to at bottom.
[00:25:59]  Yeah.
[00:26:00]  Ultimately, none of the things Alex brings up as examples of things that make him sure that Zelensky and Ukraine are liars, none of it amounts to anything.
[00:26:07]  This makes sense, because all he's doing here is grasping at straws to create a justification for his audience to believe that everything they hear about Russian attacks on civilians is not true.
[00:26:17]  Because how can you possibly believe these people with this damning list of lies that Alex has presented?
[00:26:23]  It's all just more attempts by Alex to support Putin without having to say that that's what he's doing.
[00:26:28]  He's a coward.
[00:26:28]  Yep.
[00:26:29]  I don't want to say that it's totally okay for Putin to go into another sovereign country and bomb the shit out of innocent people, but I will say that it's okay so long as...
[00:26:41]  Whatever.
[00:26:42]  Well, no, it's not even saying it's okay.
[00:26:44]  It's like, who knows if it's even happening based on these motherfucking liars talking about a ghost pilot.
[00:26:48]  I mean, the best he can do is exaggerators.
[00:26:51]  These people who are relying on hyperbole to inspire people.
[00:26:58]  Who would ever consider that?
[00:27:00]  Right.
[00:27:01]  Yeah.
[00:27:01]  I think that there is a difference.
[00:27:04]  Between, let's say, propaganda that a country would put out that denies their own atrocity-type actions.
[00:27:16]  Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[00:27:16]  And...
[00:27:17]  Propaganda that a country could put out, whether it's someone else puts it out and they tacitly approve of it or they even put it out themselves, of like, hey, soldiers get laid.
[00:27:27]  Yeah.
[00:27:27]  No, I mean, yeah, you go back and you think of those World War II propaganda films where it's like, news from the front, our boys in green are doing a wonderful job fighting against the evil krauts.

=== Hunger Games Parallels (15:40) ===

[00:27:40]  You know, like that kind of thing.
[00:27:41]  You can think of that as kind of like...
[00:27:43]  It's a little bit dishonest.
[00:27:45]  It's jingoistic.
[00:27:46]  Sure.
[00:27:46]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:27:47]  But it's not the same thing as like, I can't believe anything these fuckers say.
[00:27:53]  It's not quite.
[00:27:54]  I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a country that wouldn't engage in that kind of morale-boosting PR campaign.
[00:28:02]  Because why would you be like, shit's fucked.
[00:28:04]  We are dedicated only to the truth in advertising here.
[00:28:08]  We have lost this battle brutally.
[00:28:10]  I don't know if we're ever going to win this.
[00:28:12]  Or the opposite side.
[00:28:14]  Nothing is going to help.
[00:28:15]  This is a nightmare.
[00:28:17]  We're fucking dead.
[00:28:19]  It's not even the truth.
[00:28:20]  It's like...
[00:28:20]  Lay down.
[00:28:21]  Just lay down.
[00:28:22]  Just pessimistic, depressed news.
[00:28:24]  So anyway, you get a really strong sense from the beginning of this special report that Alex is pretty invested in supporting Putin while at the same time pretending he's not.
[00:28:34]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:28:35]  But then something really weird happens.
[00:28:37]  So the prognosis...
[00:28:40]  Runs from bad to worse.
[00:28:43]  And I just really can't lie to you, and I'm not going to lie to you, that this is the nature of consciousness.
[00:28:55]  And not everybody is going to find God in their time on this planet.
[00:29:01]  A lot of folks are going to find chaos and oblivion and mindlessness and evil.
[00:29:05]  And this is all just a big test.
[00:29:07]  And so we have to understand that in God's Infinite wisdom.
[00:29:11]  Complete wisdom.
[00:29:16]  That this is simply a test.
[00:29:20]  And so we have to be very sad for those that fail it.
[00:29:23]  What?
[00:29:24]  We have to realize that this planet and everything on it and what we're doing is completely and totally transitory.
[00:29:32]  And you have to just turn loose of it.
[00:29:36]  I think listeners and viewers know things aren't going to get very nice in the next decade.
[00:29:41]  The globalists plan to have 90% of everybody dead by 2030.
[00:29:47]  And I keep explaining, like, they really mean to do this, and they're really putting things into function that are going to end civilization as we know it.
[00:29:57]  And when civilization breaks down, go watch a movie like The Road Warrior.
[00:30:05]  From the early 1980s, and that's going to be like a vacation spot.
[00:30:10]  That hellish, dystopic, nightmare future.
[00:30:13]  In fact, guys, I had this framed over the weekend, or Friday, and I forgot to bring it.
[00:30:18]  It's sitting either on my couch in my office or on my desk.
[00:30:21]  I had it meant to bring it in here.
[00:30:23]  My door is open to my office.
[00:30:25]  Will one of you great folks go to my office and get me a diagram that's got a bunch of overlapping...
[00:30:34]  Points, and it's a meme I saw.
[00:30:37]  Oh, God.
[00:30:38]  Great.
[00:30:38]  Good work.
[00:30:39]  Oh, God.
[00:30:40]  Hey, you saw a meme.
[00:30:41]  And he framed it.
[00:30:42]  Framed a meme.
[00:30:44]  That's your real NFT right there.
[00:30:47]  Oh, my fucking God.
[00:30:49]  You know, we're doing this disgusting Putin justification session then.
[00:30:56]  Hey, shit's bad.
[00:30:57]  Everyone's gonna be dead in eight years.
[00:30:59]  This is all a simulation.
[00:31:01]  Also, I should tell you, I framed a meme.
[00:31:03]  Jesus Christ.
[00:31:04]  That I've gotta have somebody go get from my office.
[00:31:07]  There's so much awful going on in that short clip.
[00:31:10]  Two minutes.
[00:31:11]  Two minutes.
[00:31:12]  What a ride.
[00:31:12]  Amazing.
[00:31:13]  Amazing.
[00:31:14]  Also, I can see Alex being a post-apocalyptic guy wearing a hockey mask.
[00:31:20]  Sure.
[00:31:20]  Just screaming.
[00:31:21]  On vacation.
[00:31:21]  Give up the gasoline, road warrior!
[00:31:24]  Sorrows.
[00:31:24]  Sorrows!
[00:31:25]  Everyone's sorry.
[00:31:26]  This man doesn't even have any gasoline.
[00:31:29]  It's a conspiracy.
[00:31:30]  Yeah, I would say that if I were going to come up with a title for this episode, it would be Alex Framed a Meme.
[00:31:36]  Yeah, that's a good title.
[00:31:38]  Because it's shocking, and it...
[00:31:42]  There's more time spent on it than you might like.
[00:31:45]  That's all.
[00:31:45]  Any is more time than I might like.
[00:31:48]  You're not wrong.
[00:31:49]  But Alex promises that he's going to talk about this meme and then he's going to get to the real shit.
[00:31:53]  Down to business.
[00:31:55]  It's a meme I saw Thursday and I asked my assistant to frame it and it was already on my desk the next day.
[00:32:04]  So I want to show folks that if Smile just walked down the hall and to bring that to me that would be great.
[00:32:09]  Thank you very much.
[00:32:11]  And I think this says it all.
[00:32:12]  So what I'm doing here is I'm going to show you this diagram, and then I'm going to be a good boy and stop holding back and go ahead and just lay it out.
[00:32:30]  What are you holding back?
[00:32:31]  You know what?
[00:32:32]  I'm telling you, everybody who has ever written a history book or anything like that...
[00:32:38]  What kind of idiots are spending thousands of words whenever you could put a meme out there that explains it all?
[00:32:45]  Can you imagine like a textbook that was just full of memes?
[00:32:48]  I mean, they'd be the best.
[00:32:50]  That's how you would get a good education as opposed to these words.
[00:32:55]  What are you doing with words?
[00:32:58]  It's a better way to learn.
[00:33:00]  Also, not one of the ways to learn.
[00:33:02]  Not one of the four ways to learn.
[00:33:04]  So he has to get somebody to bring it from his office.
[00:33:07]  And this takes a little while, so he has to vamp a bit.
[00:33:10]  And, you know, just talking about some COVID stuff.
[00:33:14]  And, you know, when I lay all this out, a lot of people think, hey, that's great news.
[00:33:19]  It's coming out that they did this.
[00:33:23]  But then when you read the Spars 2025-2028 document...
[00:33:27]  Put out by the Rockefeller and John Hopkins and Bill and Melinda Gates group.
[00:33:33]  They talk about how when they hit us with the bioweapon, how they're going to get caught in the process and how that's meant to trigger the loss of confidence in the government and the system and collapse civilization.
[00:33:46]  Alex is making that up.
[00:33:47]  Yeah.
[00:33:48]  When we covered spars in depth in a past episode, we went over this.
[00:33:52]  I'm not going to get too far into it again, but the part that Alex is talking about is just completely, this is just out of his imagination.
[00:33:58]  The idea that officials want to get caught with this whole web of lies in order to erode faith in the government, in order to collapse society, comes entirely from a part in Chapter 19 discussing the late stages of the pandemic response where after-action reports are being made.
[00:34:12]  Quote, emergency funding appropriated by Congress to fight the disease became available partway through the course of the pandemic, but federal, state and local public health agencies struggled to manage the procedural requirements to fight the disease.
[00:34:24]  As a result, significant amounts of emergency funds remained unused as the pandemic wound down.
[00:34:31]  As the investigations grew in intensity, several high-ranking officials at the CDC and FDA were forced to step down and withdraw from government in order to, quote, spend more time with their families.
[00:34:42]  Exhausted employees of these agencies, many of whom worked long hours, six or seven days a week throughout the pandemic, simply wanted to put the whole response behind them.
[00:34:50]  Little desire remained on the part of decision makers or those who served in the trenches during the response to rehash the events of the past several years.
[00:34:58]  In this fictitious scenario that's being used in this exercise, some people had misappropriated funds and possibly stolen some of the money, but instead of dragging everyone through the mud, they resigned to, quote, That's the passage in this document that Alex has transformed into the coverage that you're seeing him present here because he's a malicious liar.
[00:35:17]  Yeah, and also it's ridiculous.
[00:35:19]  We saw in real life it's people from the Fed who wound up resigning for all of their insider trading and shit.
[00:35:25]  Duh.
[00:35:25]  Right.
[00:35:26]  They got it wrong.
[00:35:27]  Come on, man.
[00:35:28]  Anyway, he started to re-talk about the Spars thing.
[00:35:33]  That seems to be more present in his mind, so I want to just give a little bit of a refresher on it here and there.
[00:35:41]  But the meme shows up.
[00:35:43]  Gotta find out what it is that this meme explains.
[00:35:46]  This meme is tragic.
[00:35:48]  How tragic?
[00:35:49]  So, so, so, so tragic.
[00:35:51]  Like Titus Andronica's tragic?
[00:35:53]  No, Titus isn't included, but a lot of other works of fiction are.
[00:35:56]  Oh, okay.
[00:35:57]  So...
[00:35:57]  Here's a meme I saw for TV viewers.
[00:36:02]  I'll describe it for radio listeners.
[00:36:05]  But it's a bunch of overlapping circles, diagram, and in the middle it says, you are here.
[00:36:12]  And then there's a bunch of dystopic films and books and TV shows.
[00:36:18]  You've got The Hunger Games at the bottom and 1984 at the top and Brave New World over on the left and Idiocracy on the right.
[00:36:26]  And they lives up in the corner, and you got Fahrenheit 451.
[00:36:30]  You got Animal Farm.
[00:36:31]  You got Mad Max.
[00:36:34]  You got Soylent Green.
[00:36:36]  You got The Matrix.
[00:36:39]  And really, you are here.
[00:36:41]  What?
[00:36:42]  Because all of these were just artists and futurists and people.
[00:36:50]  This is really stupid, but this couldn't be a moron brand for Alex to frame a fucking meme.
[00:36:55]  Like, he's a huge, huge loser.
[00:36:58]  So there's a bunch of problems with this meme.
[00:37:00]  One of the largest being that the worlds that are depicted in these various pieces of fiction are at many points contradictory with each other.
[00:37:07]  Yeah, they have to be mutually exclusive.
[00:37:08]  For instance, the worlds of 1984 and Brave New World are explicitly at odds with each other, as was discussed actually at length in Aldous Huxley's speech, Brave New World Revisited, that Alex likes to cite and lie about all the time.
[00:37:21]  At its core, this meme is a complex Venn diagram, and that's really where the trouble begins.
[00:37:27]  The point of it is, it's obviously supposed to be that you're at this intersection of all these pieces of dystopian fiction, right in the middle.
[00:37:35]  You're here.
[00:37:36]  It's cute, but it's also really lazy, and it doesn't pay any respect to the pieces of fiction it's using as a prop.
[00:37:41]  So, at its core, there are four actual circles, and then everything else is just the intersection of those circles.
[00:37:48]  Oh, my God.
[00:37:48]  Right?
[00:37:49]  So, the four circles are 1984, Idiocracy, Hunger Games, and Brave New World.
[00:37:54]  All right.
[00:37:55]  From there, you get the areas that overlap, which are labeled as being depicted as other movies.
[00:38:00]  Okay.
[00:38:00]  So, now...
[00:38:01]  I get it.
[00:38:02]  We're going to play a game.
[00:38:03]  All right.
[00:38:03]  I'm going to give you the movie that appears in this meme, and you have to tell me the combination of what makes that movie using those four initial...
[00:38:10]  Wow, this is fun.
[00:38:12]  I think you should frame this meme.
[00:38:14]  Let's turn this audio into an NFT.
[00:38:16]  Let's do it.
[00:38:17]  Alright, first, Lord of the Flies.
[00:38:19]  There's three components.
[00:38:20]  Okay.
[00:38:21]  Three of those four initial movies create the Lord of the Flies.
[00:38:25]  Okay, Lord of the Flies.
[00:38:27]  I'm going to go with...
[00:38:29]  What were the four movies again?
[00:38:32]  Yeah, Idiocracy, 1984, Hunger Games, and Brave New World.
[00:38:35]  Alright, so I'm going to go with Hunger Games.
[00:38:39]  1984 and Idiocracy.
[00:38:41]  Ooh, Hunger Games, Idiocracy, and Brave New World.
[00:38:43]  Ooh, but why would the Lord of the Flies...
[00:38:46]  They didn't create a good Brave New World.
[00:38:48]  So close.
[00:38:49]  Okay, fine.
[00:38:50]  So close.
[00:38:50]  Didn't you see that part in Brave New World where they kill Piggy?
[00:38:53]  I did not see that part.
[00:38:54]  It was real sad, though.
[00:38:56]  They Live.
[00:38:57]  Okay.
[00:38:57]  Two.
[00:38:58]  There's two movies that make up They Live.
[00:39:00]  Okay, well, They Live has to be 1984.
[00:39:04]  I'm going to tell you you're correct.
[00:39:06]  And...
[00:39:09]  Can't be Hunger Games.
[00:39:12]  You know what?
[00:39:13]  I'm going to go ahead and go with Idiocracy.
[00:39:15]  Nope.
[00:39:16]  Brave New World and 1984.
[00:39:18]  What?
[00:39:18]  That's not possible!
[00:39:20]  You can't do that!
[00:39:22]  The Brave New World and 1984 intersections, they live.
[00:39:25]  So, what?
[00:39:27]  There are aliens and they live!
[00:39:29]  True.
[00:39:30]  The Matrix.
[00:39:31]  Three.
[00:39:31]  There's three components that come into the Matrix.
[00:39:34]  Well, if any more of these are a combination of 1984 and a Brave New World, I'm going to be furious.
[00:39:39]  This one is.
[00:39:39]  That's what I thought.
[00:39:40]  So then there's a third.
[00:39:43]  I guess you should be able to skip this by...
[00:39:46]  So it's 1984, Brave New World, and Hunger Games.
[00:39:50]  Yeah, that's great.
[00:39:50]  That makes the Matrix.
[00:39:52]  Great.
[00:39:52]  How is Hunger Games the Matrix?
[00:39:54]  Who knows?
[00:39:54]  Okay.
[00:39:55]  Mad Max.
[00:39:56]  Mad Max.
[00:39:56]  Okay.
[00:39:57]  Well, that's got to be...
[00:39:58]  Brave New World and Hunger Games.
[00:40:00]  Hunger Games and Idiocracy.
[00:40:01]  What?
[00:40:02]  Yep.
[00:40:02]  There's nothing idiotic about the government in Mad Max.
[00:40:05]  They're very smart.
[00:40:07]  Hunger Games, I can kind of see where you're coming from there.
[00:40:09]  Fahrenheit 451, two.
[00:40:11]  Okay, I swear to God, that's got to be 1984 and Brave New World again, right?
[00:40:16]  1984 and Idiocracy.
[00:40:19]  Wait!
[00:40:20]  Idiocracy because they're burning books?
[00:40:22]  Maybe.
[00:40:22]  Okay, fine.
[00:40:23]  So anyway, the point is that this meme is stupid, but it pretends to be literate and making a deep point, so Alex has printed it out, framed it, and he's possibly mere days away from selling it as a shirt.
[00:40:32]  There's a ton of variations of this meme using different works of fiction.
[00:40:36]  Like, ones other than Alex's version use things like V for Vendetta, Logan's Run, Handmaid's Tale, Gattaca, Clockwork Orange.
[00:40:43]  The point is that the specific pieces of fiction are interchangeable for whatever other books or movies you want to throw in, because this isn't about making an actual point.
[00:40:50]  It's selling a feeling.
[00:40:51]  It's just flavor of dystopia today.
[00:40:54]  Yeah, but interestingly, if you look back over the history of this meme, you'll find that it actually grew out of a meme trend where people were making fun of people comparing everything to 1984.
[00:41:03]  Early versions of it were really simple, just a Venn diagram of 1984, Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451 with a you are here in the middle, more or less mocking.
[00:41:13]  Ah, he's taking it back, though.
[00:41:30]  He's powerful.
[00:41:31]  You've got to reclaim it.
[00:41:31]  Yeah, he's taking it back.
[00:41:33]  Alex has been on vacation for a week, and he comes back and he decides he should take time to brag about framing a meaningless and possibly insulting to him meme.
[00:41:41]  This guy's just fucking impressively stupid.
[00:41:44]  Amazing.
[00:41:44]  And he doesn't stop here.
[00:41:46]  I mean, he talks about this meme for like half an hour or so.
[00:41:49]  But here's a real mic drop moment for him.
[00:41:52]  Okay.
[00:41:52]  Humans are really good at envisioning where things are going, and a lot of people...
[00:41:57]  No, they're bad at it.
[00:41:58]  They wrote these books.
[00:41:59]  In fact, all of them said this is kind of where they think the world's going.
[00:42:03]  These were social commentary about what the world would be like in the year 2022.
[00:42:09]  You know what movie's set in 2022?
[00:42:15]  No.
[00:42:16]  Guess which one?
[00:42:18]  No.
[00:42:19]  Soylent Green.
[00:42:20]  Oh!
[00:42:21]  We're made of people!
[00:42:23]  The movie Soylent Green is set in 2022, but it's based on a book titled Make Room, Make Room, which was set in 1999.
[00:42:30]  Also, the book didn't involve cannibalism in the form of Soylent Green.
[00:42:33]  That was an invention of the studio, so I guess Alex really likes the prophetic work of Richard Fleischer, who was the director, who also directed The Jazz Singer, which featured Neil Diamond at Blackface.
[00:42:44]  Right.
[00:42:45]  Harry Harrison, the author of Make Room, Make Room, has even said that the cannibalism idea is dumb because you couldn't process enough meat to feed the hungry people that way.
[00:42:54]  Every time I have been told, because I've been told many times, that Neil Diamond did blackface.

=== Neil Diamond's Movie Mishap (01:31) ===

[00:43:00]  Every time, I'm like, that can't be real.
[00:43:02]  In the jazz singer.
[00:43:03]  And then I forget about it.
[00:43:04]  And then it happens again the exact same way.
[00:43:06]  And I think that must be why everybody just gives him the pass on that, is because nobody believes it really happened.
[00:43:12]  It's shocking, first of all, to hear that Neil Diamond starred in a movie.
[00:43:16]  Yeah!
[00:43:17]  Yeah!
[00:43:17]  You're like, that's even weirder.
[00:43:19]  Yeah.
[00:43:19]  Yeah.
[00:43:20]  It's a mess.
[00:43:21]  Anyway, the same guy who directed Soylent Green directed that.
[00:43:24]  Alex has seen movies that he wants to pretend are real, but he also knows that he would sound really dumb if he didn't pretend that these ideas were somehow rooted in a kind of literate background.
[00:43:33]  These people who wrote these works were envisioning the future they worried about coming to pass, right?
[00:43:38]  That's really not true in most of these cases, and often Alex is either intentionally missing or incapable of grasping what the actual point of any of these stories is actually even about.
[00:43:47]  Also, who gives a shit when these stories are set?
[00:43:49]  Brave New World is set in 2540, and Idiocracy is in 2505.
[00:43:54]  None of it means anything.
[00:43:55]  Who cares?
[00:43:56]  In my book, spoiler alert, the world ends.
[00:44:00]  And it's not because I thought that's how it was going to happen.
[00:44:03]  I thought it would be fun.
[00:44:04]  Right.
[00:44:05]  I thought it would be a fun little jaunt.
[00:44:06]  Some of it is a rhetorical device.
[00:44:08]  Yeah!
[00:44:09]  So anyway, Alex is really dumb.
[00:44:10]  He spent a long time talking about this meme, but finally decides to jump off into other territories.

=== Big News, Tiny Impact (10:08) ===

[00:44:16]  When we hit this, I'm going to try to move as quick as I can because there's obviously a lot to get to and I really need to get to all this.
[00:44:22]  And I'm just begging Lester to realize what a big deal all of this is.
[00:44:31]  And the fact that this information comes out and then it's like Blowing on a dandelion and the little parachutes, little spores, little seeds go out and they disappear as the wind catches them.
[00:44:53]  You don't know where they land or if they ever sprout or where that information goes.
[00:44:59]  But nevertheless, this information needs to find fertile ground.
[00:45:05]  So Alex is expressing his show as being like a dandelion with all the parachutes going out.
[00:45:13]  And they need to take root somewhere in order for the plant to continue.
[00:45:17]  But I would say that it's also kind of like that because it's just random.
[00:45:23]  Yeah.
[00:45:24]  He just throws a bunch of shit out there in hopes it lands in some soil somewhere.
[00:45:29]  And it's a weed that will break down, let's call it, society's sidewalks, so to speak.
[00:45:35]  Yeah, there's other ways that this is an apt metaphor.
[00:45:38]  Yeah, it's a surprisingly good metaphor for him.
[00:45:41]  It was delivered in an incredibly clunky way.
[00:45:45]  Yeah.
[00:45:45]  That was terrible.
[00:45:46]  So the big news, there's some big COVID news that Alex needs to get to.
[00:45:51]  And the first has to do with a recent bit of commentary made by the head of the CDC, Rachel Walensky.
[00:45:58]  They had the head of the CDC come out Friday.
[00:46:01]  I got the clip coming up.
[00:46:04]  And she said, Oh, we were wishful thinking.
[00:46:11]  The vaccine doesn't work.
[00:46:13]  We're sorry.
[00:46:14]  That's all in the spars.
[00:46:17]  2025, 2028.
[00:46:18]  And when you follow it, it's a war game.
[00:46:20]  Well, a war game of attacking Russia or Russia attacking us is a simulation of what you really do.
[00:46:25]  So a great deal of this show, after the meme talk, is just Alex rambling in grandiose terms about how he's proven that COVID is a bioweapon made in a lab and all this other shit.
[00:46:34]  Sure.
[00:46:34]  There really wasn't any concrete claims being made for long stretches of this.
[00:46:38]  So this is actually just something to talk about.
[00:46:41]  Yeah, that's great.
[00:46:44]  The head of the CDC, Rachel Walensky, didn't come out and apologize and say that vaccines don't work.
[00:46:48]  That's a bunch of bullshit.
[00:46:49]  Yeah, that doesn't sound true.
[00:46:50]  She was speaking at the University of Washington and had some very reflective things to say about the pandemic response and the messaging around vaccines.
[00:46:57]  She was speaking about how when the vaccines were being tested and they were seeing 95% rates of effectiveness...
[00:47:03]  That some people may have been too full of optimism and had too little caution, particularly surrounding ideas of waning immunity and the possibility of new variants not being covered as effectively by the vaccine.
[00:47:14]  This was specifically in response to a question of where improvements could have been made.
[00:47:19]  She was speaking about messaging failures less than she was saying that the vaccine didn't work, mostly because she wasn't saying that at all.
[00:47:26]  Alex seems pretty hot on this Spars document on this episode because he keeps bringing it up and making shit up about it.
[00:47:31]  I suspect that he feels like it's been long enough since he's really talked about it that his audience will have forgotten the main talking points surrounding the document and he can just use it to fill in whatever holes that he has in his conspiracy and be like, oh, it's just like out of Spars.
[00:47:42]  Yeah, this was not originally part of the Spars discussion.
[00:47:46]  No.
[00:47:46]  It's almost...
[00:47:48]  Like he's just using it where it's convenient.
[00:47:50]  Yeah.
[00:47:51]  That's all he ever does.
[00:47:51]  Just toss it in there where it's retconable.
[00:47:53]  This thing about vaccines not working doesn't happen in that scenario exercise.
[00:47:58]  It's important to remember that this is an exercise based on public health messaging, so every chapter is meant to depict a particular challenge that could come up in the course of a pandemic in terms of how to effectively communicate information to the public.
[00:48:10]  In this scenario, there are two drugs that are of central importance.
[00:48:13]  There's a vaccine that's being worked on trying to get rapidly developed, Coravex, and there's an already existing antiviral drug that shows some promise of working against spars called Calosevir.
[00:48:25]  Chapter 9 is about messaging the dilemma of finding out that in further trials of Calosevir that it's not actually effective at...
[00:48:35]  And that pursuing it as a possible cure has to be abandoned, even though a lot of money has been put into testing.
[00:48:41]  People have a predictable social media backlash to the withdrawing of colosivir as a potential treatment, which is expressed as distrust that the government has any idea that they know what they're doing around the pandemic.
[00:48:52]  This is in no way analogous to the story that Alex is telling, and I'm being generous when I say that this is the part of the document he's lying about.
[00:48:59]  It's entirely possible that he's just making up what he's saying out of thin air.
[00:49:02]  Yeah, I was gonna say.
[00:49:03]  You can say that it's part of this part that he's thinking about.
[00:49:08]  Well, that's the closest.
[00:49:08]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:49:09]  He could be thinking...
[00:49:11]  I'm thinking about a completely different part that has nothing to do with what he's talking about.
[00:49:15]  It could just be a figment of his imagination.
[00:49:17]  100%.
[00:49:17]  He's not above that.
[00:49:19]  Yeah, relying on him to need a physical thing is just out of the realm of normal.
[00:49:25]  This is the problem of trying to ground some of this stuff in reality and sources.
[00:49:30]  Sometimes it's just not.
[00:49:32]  Yeah, it's just not going to happen.
[00:49:34]  So Alex has another big narrative.
[00:49:36]  This is the big...
[00:49:37]  Big news.
[00:49:38]  This is the big news.
[00:49:39]  The big COVID news.
[00:49:40]  Gotcha.
[00:49:41]  And it has to do with the Blaze.
[00:49:42]  Okay.
[00:49:43]  Glenn Beck's outfit.
[00:49:45]  Oh.
[00:49:45]  They have a big new bit of information.
[00:49:48]  It's all come out it isn't a vaccine.
[00:49:50]  It's all come out it doesn't help you.
[00:49:52]  It's all come out it attacks your body.
[00:49:53]  It attacks your double helix.
[00:49:55]  And now what has come out?
[00:49:56]  This is the big new news.
[00:49:59]  The new news.
[00:50:00]  The great researchers, thank God they're now fully awake and aren't naive anymore, at the Blaze.
[00:50:06]  Did something smart.
[00:50:07]  They put in a FOIA request concerning federal government spending on propaganda, pushing the COVID narrative and the anti-avermectin narrative and the pro-vaccine narrative that isn't a vaccine.
[00:50:21]  You can read the documents for yourself.
[00:50:23]  I spent an hour today reading them.
[00:50:25]  And the government admits they're real.
[00:50:27]  $1 billion was spent in the first year of Biden being in office secretly.
[00:50:34]  To buy off thousands of mainstream media outlets, TV stations, networks, newspapers, local TV.
[00:50:42]  This is just one program we know of.
[00:50:45]  One billion dollars.
[00:50:47]  And they had to sign an agreement that they would have no anti-vaccine coverage.
[00:50:54]  Total fraud.
[00:50:55]  So when real investigative journalists FOIA documents, one of the really important things that they do is they post the underlying documents so people who are reading about their release can review the actual documents and assess whether or not they match up with the claims that are being made in the reporting.
[00:51:10]  It should come as no surprise that the Blaze article that Alex is covering contains no link to any of these actual documents they're claiming that they got from the Department of Health and Human Services.
[00:51:19]  The article that's posted on the Blaze has nothing to do with any information that would have been found in any of these supposed documents.
[00:51:25]  It's just complaining about media coverage of COVID and then pointing to already public information, like the fact that the American Rescue Plan Act, or H.R. 1319, contained $1 billion in funding for HHS to engage in activities to, quote, strengthen vaccine confidence.
[00:51:42]  None of the information in this article would require any FOIA documents to write, and I have strong suspicion that...
[00:51:48]  If this guy even got documents, they aren't as revelatory or shocking as he'd hoped, so the strategy is just to use their supposed existence as a prop while repeating other salacious information that's already public in the body of the article.
[00:52:01]  Also, to be clear, the $1 billion claim isn't from FOIA documents.
[00:52:05]  It's from H.R. 1319, and not all of that was spent on advertising budgets.
[00:52:11]  Without the actual documents, there's nothing being reported here.
[00:52:14]  It's just insinuation and vague claims.
[00:52:16]  Also, another important thing to point out is that these guys really fucked up their story.
[00:52:21]  The whole thing is about how the Biden administration did this.
[00:52:24]  But if you go and consult the Blaze article, they say that this happened in fiscal year 2021, which isn't the same.
[00:52:30]  Ouch!
[00:52:32]  No.
[00:52:32]  Fiscal year 2021 goes from May 1st, 2020 to April 30th, 2021.
[00:52:37]  So it's actually something that happened under Trump.
[00:52:39]  This is partially because the Blaze article is cherry-picking information and not putting it into context for their readers.
[00:52:45]  They cite the American Rescue Plan Act as the source of this funding, but the language in that bill is really just a continuation of the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021, which was signed by Trump.
[00:52:56]  Overall, this whole article seems deeply misleading.
[00:52:59]  This paragraph shows up in the Post.
[00:53:02]  Though virtually all of these newsrooms produce stories covering the COVID-19 vaccines, the taxpayer dollars flowing to their companies were not disclosed to audiences in news reports, since common practice dictates that editorial teams operate independently of media advertising departments and news teams felt no need to make the disclosure, as some publications reached for comment explained.
[00:53:23]  They have literally no evidence or even the suggestion of evidence that any of the money went to people who wrote news stories, news reports, or even editorials about COVID.
[00:53:32]  The best The Blaze can do is include a comedic video that was run on NBC featuring Elton John and Michael Caine that ends with a big placard disclosing funding from the NHS.
[00:53:42]  That's not even in the United States and it includes clear disclosure and it's a funny video.
[00:53:47]  If I had to bet, I would say that whatever documents they got showed that the HHS paid for advertising slots for PSAs that they made and which contained disclosure of funding sources, and now the story is being spun and saying they paid NBC to have Fauci on or some bullshit.
[00:54:01]  Also, important to point out that Alex is also making up details here.
[00:54:05]  The Blaze story itself is dumb, but Alex is also just making stuff up about it that doesn't even appear in the article.

=== Alex's Court Hearings Mystery (15:52) ===

[00:54:11]  Another weird point, though, is that Infowars didn't even post the Blaze story on their website.
[00:54:16]  They posted a write-up about the Blaze article from someone named Emerald Robinson Substack.
[00:54:22]  She seems like a far-right dum-dum, so this is probably some buzz marketing, or it could be that InfoWars is worried that Glenn Beck wouldn't just let them steal his content and repost it like Alex does with everybody else.
[00:54:33]  Right.
[00:54:33]  Either way, this is just really dumb, and it's not a bombshell at all.
[00:54:36]  Wow.
[00:54:36]  Yeah, I don't know.
[00:54:38]  I would say that this guy's got to post these FOIA documents.
[00:54:41]  If he wants me to take this seriously.
[00:54:43]  Yeah, one way to say that you...
[00:54:45]  I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase, because I went to the FOIA site, and I searched his name, I searched the Blaze, didn't find anything, and I'm not going to search through every single HHS-related FOIA request.
[00:54:57]  No, you are not.
[00:54:57]  I don't have time.
[00:54:58]  Nope.
[00:54:59]  So, fucking show your work, Ding Dong.
[00:55:01]  Ugh.
[00:55:02]  I'm sorry.
[00:55:02]  Another way of describing someone as having bought off the media companies is to say they purchased advertising space.
[00:55:10]  Right.
[00:55:10]  Yeah.
[00:55:11]  You know, they spent money on creating PSAs, which were very clearly PSAs.
[00:55:16]  So one could assume that they're from the government.
[00:55:18]  And the one that they included was funny, too.
[00:55:21]  Like, it was bizarre.
[00:55:22]  Yeah.
[00:55:22]  Like, I watched it.
[00:55:23]  I was expecting it to be really dumb and kind of hacky.
[00:55:26]  But it was Elton John auditioning to be in a commercial for COVID.
[00:55:30]  Yeah.
[00:55:31]  And they were, like, giving him directions on how to deliver the line.
[00:55:34]  And they're like, all right, just for fun, do a Michael Caine impression.
[00:55:37]  And he does a really fun Michael Caine impression.
[00:55:40]  At the end, they're like, I don't know.
[00:55:42]  We'll call you back.
[00:55:43]  We'll see.
[00:55:43]  They're like, oh, yeah.
[00:55:44]  It's like, who are you going to get in short time?
[00:55:46]  And then it flashes to Michael Caine.
[00:55:48]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:55:48]  There it is.
[00:55:49]  All right.
[00:55:50]  Yeah.
[00:55:50]  That's fun.
[00:55:51]  That's fun.
[00:55:52]  What are you going to do?
[00:55:53]  What are you going to bitch about that?
[00:55:54]  Come on, man.
[00:55:56]  It's fun.
[00:55:58]  So yeah, they paid for those to be made and probably paid for PSA slots, and I don't think that this is a scandal, but it's being made a scandal by craven, desperate weirdos who work for Glenn Beck.
[00:56:08]  This is weak tea.
[00:56:09]  No, it's not strong.
[00:56:12]  Ah, man.
[00:56:13]  They could do so much better.
[00:56:15]  No, they couldn't.
[00:56:18]  No, they couldn't.
[00:56:19]  No, all their process is based on building these convenient and useful lies.
[00:56:24]  They can't do better.
[00:56:25]  Man.
[00:56:26]  Because reporting accurate things wouldn't be exciting for the audience.
[00:56:31]  Yeah.
[00:56:32]  And then the feedback loop gets broken.
[00:56:34]  Yep.
[00:56:35]  People stop paying attention to your site because you're too into information.
[00:56:38]  Gross.
[00:56:40]  Yeah.
[00:56:41]  Right.
[00:56:47]  And so inevitably you just, you know, you had to chase the dragon that is the audience's fickle attention.
[00:56:54]  Anyway, Alex gets mad about how no one told us that these things were being done, these fundings.
[00:57:03]  And the real scandal is that Fox News and Newsmax are apparently people who took some of this advertising money.
[00:57:14]  How dare they?
[00:57:15]  Right, and they're supposed to be cool.
[00:57:16]  They're supposed to be on the side of the patriots.
[00:57:19]  Right, right, right.
[00:57:20]  Well, the feds say it's secret how much they paid Newsmax.
[00:57:23]  But they did.
[00:57:25]  And of course, Fox News.
[00:57:27]  That's why they would always say, I'm not saying you shouldn't take the vaccine.
[00:57:31]  Everybody should get their vaccine.
[00:57:32]  All we're saying is you shouldn't be made to do it.
[00:57:35]  Because they were told on ABC, NBC, you name it, Fox, don't criticize it in any way if you have to say everybody should take it, but we have a question.
[00:57:45]  And then that was the segue.
[00:57:48]  Did anybody at Fox News or Newsmax or CNN Did they tell you that they were being paid by the federal government with your taxpayer money and signed an agreement not to do any criticism or talk to anybody that was critical?
[00:58:11]  No.
[00:58:12]  You didn't get that memo, did you?
[00:58:14]  No, because it's not true.
[00:58:15]  I would imagine that most of the on-air talent have no idea what the ad department is up to.
[00:58:22]  It's not their job.
[00:58:23]  No, there's a complete disconnect from that stuff.
[00:58:25]  Also, Alex is making up the part about them signing agreements that they can't do any critical vaccine coverage.
[00:58:32]  That's not even in the Blaze article.
[00:58:33]  Also, a good piece of evidence that Alex seems to have forgotten here that's kind of a counterexample to what he's talking about is the most important person in the world, Tucker Carlson.
[00:58:43]  Yeah, he did if...
[00:58:45]  If...
[00:58:45]  That would blow this whole advertising campaign, probably, if Fox News is getting all this money and Tucker Carlson won't shut his damn mouth.
[00:58:53]  Yeah, because he was definitely...
[00:58:55]  I mean, if the money was given to Fox News for the previous year, you know, then Tucker wouldn't be the most important person in the world because he would have to say, like, I'm not saying don't take your vaccines.
[00:59:09]  I'm not saying don't do this.
[00:59:10]  And then, no, there's no way.
[00:59:12]  There's no way.
[00:59:13]  Nope.
[00:59:14]  So Alex gets off this topic and he starts to get contemplative, a little introspective about his court hearings.
[00:59:24]  Well, it is a Saturday evening.
[00:59:26]  Now, I gotta say, I think if you listen to this clip, Alex is trying to express that globalists are trying to talk to him through his court hearings.
[00:59:37]  Interesting.
[00:59:37]  Which is weird.
[00:59:38]  That is interesting.
[00:59:39]  And in full disclosure, I'm talking to lawyers right now because...
[00:59:44]  Right now?
[00:59:45]  People can't do things in mediation that, in my view, is unethical or illegal and then expect that we're not ever going to talk about it.
[00:59:53]  But I'm going to leave it at that.
[00:59:55]  But you can imagine what the Democrats have done approaching us with the threats if we don't get on board with them.
[01:00:02]  And they even do it in the vehicle of lawsuits, which made me like, okay.
[01:00:07]  I'm never settling, and I'm going to go all the way with you people.
[01:00:11]  Because here's the deal, folks.
[01:00:13]  There's no bottom to these people.
[01:00:17]  And they're so confident in their takeover, they'll sit there face to face and say, get on board with us.
[01:00:26]  And not only will this be taken care of, but you'll be taken care of.
[01:00:31]  And you know...
[01:00:33]  This isn't the only time this has happened.
[01:00:36]  Because I like to be able to have these meetings.
[01:00:38]  And as long as something somebody isn't doing is criminal, I'm not going to talk about it on air.
[01:00:44]  Because I need to be able to meet with people over the years of all different types and not put out what they've said.
[01:00:50]  But it's just insane.
[01:00:57]  So they come to people and they say, you want money or do you want to be fired?
[01:01:02]  Do you want money or do you want to be sued?
[01:01:05]  But what good is all the money when you're giving hundreds of millions and billions of people a shot that double cuts their DNA and gives them cancer and gives them blood clots?
[01:01:17]  I guess Alex has now decided to imagine that he's being tempted to the dark side by globalists in his court hearings, and this is getting exhausting and really dumb.
[01:01:25]  His whole thing about how he likes to take meetings with these globalists is so fucking stupid, and this clip really brings that into focus.
[01:01:31]  He's pretending that he's cool as long as people aren't doing anything illegal, but these people are working for the devil to kill every human.
[01:01:38]  Yeah.
[01:01:39]  Alex has supposedly proven all their plans, and not only that, they've admitted he's right and that they want him to join them, so they're doing very illegal things.
[01:01:47]  Possibly the most illegal things, if anything Alex is saying is true.
[01:01:51]  If you are telling me...
[01:01:53]  20 minutes ago that the globalist plan is to kill 90% of the world within 10 years.
[01:01:59]  Eight now.
[01:02:00]  Eight now.
[01:02:00]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:02:01]  And you're going to tell me that you're taking meetings with these folks, you know, and they're trying to convince me to join their side.
[01:02:08]  They're going to kill 90% of the world, man.
[01:02:11]  What are we talking about?
[01:02:12]  No, I got to stay.
[01:02:13]  They're not nice!
[01:02:14]  No, no, I got to keep my journalistic integrity intact by not saying anyone's names.
[01:02:17]  No, 90% of the world!
[01:02:19]  Nah, it was off the record.
[01:02:20]  Are they in the 90%?
[01:02:21]  90%?
[01:02:21]  It was off the record.
[01:02:22]  They wouldn't even care then!
[01:02:24]  They're gonna die!
[01:02:26]  So dumb.
[01:02:27]  Put aside the whole intrigue of killing everyone off and all that stuff.
[01:02:30]  Like, if what Alex is saying is true at all, these people are still committing crimes because they're attempting to extort him.
[01:02:36]  None of this is real at all.
[01:02:37]  It's just Alex's...
[01:02:38]  The way that he's decided to dramatize his court hearings and use those dramatizations to add to his own victimhood and martyrdom complexes.
[01:02:45]  It's kind of boring, and I don't believe that even he believes this.
[01:02:50]  Yeah, it'd be more fun if one of Tom Clancy's ghostwriters wrote his trial.
[01:02:54]  That's what he would be going for there.
[01:02:56]  Yeah.
[01:02:56]  So Alex gets to talking about how great Glenn Beck is, because I guess he's cool now.
[01:03:04]  I want some consistency.
[01:03:05]  But Alex can't even talk about how good Glenn Beck is without...
[01:03:08]  Kind of making it about himself.
[01:03:10]  Yeah, of course.
[01:03:10]  So again, I will recap the big news.
[01:03:13]  It's on Infowars.com.
[01:03:15]  It's on Blaze.com.
[01:03:16]  I want to salute Glenn Beck.
[01:03:18]  I want to encourage people to tune into his show.
[01:03:21]  And he's a good man.
[01:03:24]  He didn't believe me 20 years ago or 10 years ago.
[01:03:27]  And he thought I was a liar.
[01:03:30]  Because I was a man way ahead of my time.
[01:03:33]  But he now knows the truth.
[01:03:34]  Funny how this plug for Glenn Beck is mysteriously more about how Alex was a prophet.
[01:03:38]  Right, all the time.
[01:03:39]  Also, Glenn Beck had nothing to do with this article.
[01:03:42]  It was written by Chris Pandolfo, but Alex has no interest in the little people.
[01:03:47]  Everything that happens at Infowars is essentially dumb underlings carrying out Alex's will, so I guess he assumes the same is true everywhere else, and that everything at the blaze is a function of...
[01:03:57]  Of Glenn Beck.
[01:03:58]  Like, every Dave Rubin episode is basically underwritten by...
[01:04:02]  It does feel like what he believes all news organizations to be is a megalomaniacal lunatic at the top who's just telling everybody, like, doling out tasks until they come back.
[01:04:14]  I grant that Glenn Beck has a lot of the appearance of that personality trait.
[01:04:18]  Sure, sure.
[01:04:18]  I can understand that, but I think he also is not that much of an idiot.
[01:04:24]  Yeah.
[01:04:24]  To, like, micromanage so much.
[01:04:26]  And doesn't want to work that hard.
[01:04:28]  No.
[01:04:28]  Not to say Alex is working hard.
[01:04:30]  Definitely not.
[01:04:31]  He's just angry and abusive.
[01:04:32]  He's there and he's yelling.
[01:04:33]  So, Alex, look, man, he's not feuding with Glenn Beck anymore.
[01:04:36]  No, he's not.
[01:04:37]  They used to feud.
[01:04:37]  Yeah, well, of course, because Glenn Black didn't know the truth back then.
[01:04:40]  Now he does.
[01:04:41]  But now everyone does.
[01:04:42]  Everyone does.
[01:04:42]  And it's all about God, baby.
[01:04:44]  It's always.
[01:04:44]  There is no future if we don't stop this.
[01:04:47]  There's not who's the biggest talk show host and who's got the most money in the bank.
[01:04:51]  None of that means anything.
[01:04:53]  That might have meant something to people before.
[01:04:57]  All that matters is being good, having a relationship with God, and being able to protect yourself and your family into the future here.
[01:05:06]  Because we may not be able to save even a basic civilization.
[01:05:12]  We are approaching the point of no return right now.
[01:05:18]  And that's okay.
[01:05:20]  Because what this is really all about is our personal relationship with God and infinity.
[01:05:34]  Eternity.
[01:05:37]  And that's what matters.
[01:05:38]  I thought this was about the banks.
[01:05:40]  I thought this was about the new world order.
[01:05:44]  When you're running Putin apologies.
[01:05:47]  And trying to get people onto the side of, it's cool for Putin to go into another country and murder everybody.
[01:05:52]  How's your personal relationship with God going on at the same time?
[01:05:56]  Is that good?
[01:05:57]  Strong.
[01:05:58]  Is God like, man, you are crushing it?
[01:06:00]  It kind of feels like this might be a coward's refuge.
[01:06:04]  I think it might.
[01:06:05]  I think it might be relying on religion to fill in the blanks for how terrible and cowardly he is.
[01:06:12]  But that's unusual for people to do.
[01:06:16]  I will admit that much of my early career was about how Rand Paul was great because he was going to reduce regulation.
[01:06:23]  He was going to audit the Fed.
[01:06:25]  That's what it's all been about the whole time.
[01:06:27]  But really, that was about the devil.
[01:06:28]  Oh, shit!
[01:06:30]  Auditing the Fed was about the devil.
[01:06:32]  Fuck off.
[01:06:33]  Of course.
[01:06:34]  So anyway, play this next clip where he's sort of going deeper into these thoughts and just like...
[01:06:40]  Imagine if after 9-11 he spoke like this.
[01:06:44]  Imagine how non-career he would have.
[01:06:49]  He would not have a fucking career if he didn't wait until he'd already sucked a bunch of people in to start with this shit.
[01:06:57]  Now the Bible tells us before the simulation ends, and it's a three-dimensional real simulation.
[01:07:03]  Explain to me where the Bible says simulation.
[01:07:05]  A real universe-wide system.
[01:07:08]  We don't know if the simulation ends next month or in a thousand years or a trillion years, but God gives us a pretty good idea about it.
[01:07:16]  What?
[01:07:17]  When the simulation's done, God rolls up the universe like a scroll, and then we jump into eternity.
[01:07:24]  That's not in the book!
[01:07:27]  And who knows if our memories will be wiped or what, but the point is, is...
[01:07:32]  That's what this is, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:07:34]  No career.
[01:07:36]  Wait.
[01:07:36]  No career.
[01:07:37]  You gotta suck people in with this fun international conspiracy and the Bush did 9-11.
[01:07:44]  Sure.
[01:07:44]  This fun false flag stuff and mysteries that are terrestrial that you feel like you can solve.
[01:07:49]  Right.
[01:07:49]  Like the nefarious influence of the Rothschilds and what have you.
[01:07:53]  And you have to make fun of people like David Icke who say that people are shape-shifting lizards.
[01:07:58]  Sure.
[01:07:58]  You know, so you can differentiate yourself and make yourself look like you're...
[01:08:01]  I'm just about the solid, provable facts.
[01:08:03]  And then, once you've duped enough people into thinking you know anything about what you're talking about and your career is kind of falling apart, might as well just let it go and...
[01:08:13]  Start with your constant, insane religious rants.
[01:08:19]  Well, I mean, they don't start you out with Xenu on day one at Scientology.
[01:08:23]  That's true.
[01:08:23]  You gotta ease into that shit.
[01:08:25]  That's true.
[01:08:25]  No cult is like, hey, by the way, I'm gonna ask you to cut your arm off in a few years.
[01:08:31]  Check that out.
[01:08:31]  I think the cost of entry for InfoWars is cheaper.
[01:08:34]  That's true.
[01:08:35]  Iodine is not cheap, but not as...
[01:08:37]  Not as expensive as some Scientology courses.
[01:08:40]  Right.
[01:08:40]  Also, I don't think Alex is interested in having blackmail on his listeners.
[01:08:44]  Not yet.
[01:08:45]  No.
[01:08:46]  I mean, yeah.
[01:08:47]  Let's see how desperate he gets.
[01:08:48]  I mean, this is lunatic stuff.
[01:08:50]  Yeah.
[01:08:50]  Straight up.
[01:08:52]  Yeah.
[01:08:53]  Who knows if God is going to wipe your memory?
[01:08:56]  Who knows?
[01:08:57]  What the fuck is the point of doing that?
[01:08:58]  If you believe the whole thing is a test, what's the point if God wipes your memory in the end of it?
[01:09:03]  Well, he only wipes your memory, not your ancestral memory.
[01:09:06]  What?
[01:09:06]  Your race memory.
[01:09:07]  That doesn't make any sense!
[01:09:08]  Of course it doesn't.
[01:09:10]  It's because he's kind of making this stuff up and then giving it religious significance.
[01:09:14]  Yep, sounds like it.
[01:09:15]  Which is what real cool, non-malicious narcissists do.
[01:09:21]  Hey, the last time a sci-fi nerd got way too into religion, it went great.
[01:09:26]  I don't think Alex has the organizational capacity to pull a...
[01:09:31]  That's true.
[01:09:32]  Couldn't do the L. Ron Hubbard.
[01:09:34]  No, couldn't pull a Hubbard.
[01:09:35]  I don't know.
[01:09:35]  He's got a boat.
[01:09:36]  He could probably get some people out into the international waters.
[01:09:38]  It's not a big enough boat.
[01:09:38]  Not a big enough boat.
[01:09:40]  So, look, Alex has had people come to him much like the HHS and offer him money.

=== He Went to the FBI (03:51) ===

[01:09:47]  And I have some follow-up questions about some of this stuff.
[01:09:51]  Because it's pathetic.
[01:09:52]  I mean, good job, Blaze.
[01:09:54]  They do not come to Blaze and offer him money to push the vaccine.
[01:09:57]  They do not come here to offer money.
[01:09:59]  Yeah.
[01:10:00]  Yeah, that was hard.
[01:10:01]  You're not going to give me money and then get anything you want.
[01:10:04]  You don't put quarters in Alex Jones and then get back out of it what you put in.
[01:10:09]  Smash cut to him doing a MyPillow ad.
[01:10:12]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:10:13]  But really, the follow-up questions I have have to do with this.
[01:10:16]  Last time I got offered a bunch of money was three years ago.
[01:10:20]  Reset Wars.
[01:10:20]  What?
[01:10:21]  Oh, sorry.
[01:10:23]  That wasn't a bunch.
[01:10:24]  That's true.
[01:10:25]  I've been offered money by governments, and I went to the FBI over it.
[01:10:31]  That's how the real world works, folks.
[01:10:33]  And you're looking at the guy.
[01:10:35]  I'm not bragging.
[01:10:36]  I'm just telling you.
[01:10:36]  You're looking at the guy that can't be bought.
[01:10:38]  Right here.
[01:10:39]  Looking for it?
[01:10:40]  Except by pillows.
[01:10:41]  Right here.
[01:10:42]  This is the real thing.
[01:10:43]  This is the real McCoy.
[01:10:44]  Warts and all.
[01:10:45]  You got it right here.
[01:10:46]  And I know you're just like me.
[01:10:48]  Okay, so three years ago, Alex had a government try and give him a bunch of money, and he went to the FBI about it.
[01:10:55]  What government was that, Alex?
[01:10:57]  Um, ooh, boy.
[01:10:58]  You know, there's one government I know specifically who's really into that kind of thing.
[01:11:02]  No, I don't think this happened.
[01:11:03]  No, of course it did.
[01:11:04]  What government are you trying to pretend it was?
[01:11:06]  I'm assuming he's...
[01:11:08]  Trying to pretend that Russia tried to give him a bunch of money.
[01:11:11]  I think that's probably the implication.
[01:11:13]  And what I would assume is more like, if this is true, that he went to the FBI.
[01:11:19]  That's the part that I would...
[01:11:19]  Well, I don't think it's the U.S. government because he went to the FBI.
[01:11:22]  Right.
[01:11:23]  No, I would imagine that what really happened is somebody...
[01:11:26]  Faked being from a Russian spy service.
[01:11:30]  Oh, I could see a troll.
[01:11:30]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:11:32]  Send him, like, hey, we'll give you $10 trillion if you say blah, blah, blah.
[01:11:35]  And he was like, I gotta go to the FBI!
[01:11:38]  I also don't believe you went to the FBI.
[01:11:40]  It's at DR119994678.
[01:11:43]  He's like, that's definitely from the...
[01:11:45]  It's strange.
[01:11:46]  I mean, like, I don't know how much I believe...
[01:11:50]  Actually, I kind of think that there's a possibility that there might have been some, like...
[01:11:55]  Like with the HHS stuff.
[01:11:58]  Sure.
[01:11:59]  Maybe there was a buying interest in like RT or one of these things to buy advertising on InfoWars.
[01:12:06]  Totally.
[01:12:06]  I could see that being the case.
[01:12:08]  All of that's possible.
[01:12:09]  I don't think that Alex would describe it like this.
[01:12:10]  No.
[01:12:11]  I don't know.
[01:12:11]  Anyway, I just think that when you say something like this, I think you're required to follow up with details.
[01:12:17]  Because to not do that leaves me to believe, first of all, you're lying.
[01:12:21]  And second of all, if you're not lying, you're covering up what government it is because you know that it'll make your coverage look bad.
[01:12:27]  Won't look good.
[01:12:28]  Yeah.
[01:12:28]  If you say, Russia tried to give me a bunch of money.
[01:12:31]  Surprise!
[01:12:31]  I'm really pro-Putin.
[01:12:33]  It's weird.
[01:12:34]  And look, I'm doing it for free.
[01:12:35]  It's weird.
[01:12:36]  I would never take money to be pro-Putin.
[01:12:38]  I told Putin to save his money.
[01:12:40]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:12:41]  Because I want him to have it.
[01:12:42]  I think that it raises more suspicions to say, Nothing.
[01:12:47]  Yeah.
[01:12:47]  Then to explain what you're talking about.
[01:12:48]  Because it's not going to be like Luxembourg offered him 10 grand.
[01:12:51]  Luxembourg, France?
[01:12:52]  Yeah, Luxembourg, France.
[01:12:53]  They're not offering him 10 grand.
[01:12:54]  No.
[01:12:56]  So Alex gets back to his wacky religious stuff here.
[01:13:00]  And I want to tell you that this sentence starts with one of the best Alex Jones sentence starting.
[01:13:06]  Okay.
[01:13:07]  He wants to explain what the theologians are wrong about.
[01:13:12]  Okay.
[01:13:13]  Wow.
[01:13:13]  Which ones?
[01:13:14]  All of them.
[01:13:15]  All of them.
[01:13:15]  Gotcha.
[01:13:16]  If anything has been gotten wrong by the theologians and the culture and the rest of it, is that the next level, you just sit there and play a harp and everything's just happy and total perfection.

=== Places Beyond Satan (03:51) ===

[01:13:28]  If you choose to be in that presence and be complete, you can choose to stay there and be complete in God's presence.
[01:13:36]  You can choose to stay at that level of absolute connection to infinity.
[01:13:41]  And true attainment.
[01:13:44]  Or you can go to places.
[01:13:51]  What?
[01:13:53]  What places?
[01:13:54]  Outside of the consciousness of God.
[01:13:57]  That doesn't make any sense.
[01:14:01]  Satan is attempting to make one of those places at this level.
[01:14:05]  What?
[01:14:06]  Those places have been constructed.
[01:14:08]  And those places exist.
[01:14:10]  Okay.
[01:14:13]  And I can tell you, my friends, I've been beyond Satan.
[01:14:16]  No career if he was talking like this earlier in his career.
[01:14:19]  Absolutely fucking nuts.
[01:14:22]  Thrown to the fucking trash bin if he was talking like this.
[01:14:26]  Why isn't anybody throwing things at him to get him to stop?
[01:14:28]  Stop doing this!
[01:14:29]  Well, because it's a Saturday show.
[01:14:31]  How can you work for this man as he says, don't worry, Satan's trying to make his own evil universe outside of God's consciousness?
[01:14:38]  And I've been there, man.
[01:14:39]  Fine!
[01:14:40]  I've been there.
[01:14:42]  I'm not sure what theologians Alex is referring to, but I suspect that it's just the illustrated children's Bible he reads out of with pictures of people playing harps.
[01:14:50]  Yeah, that would be...
[01:14:51]  I'm gonna guess that's what's going on.
[01:14:52]  Look, this show's fucking stupid.
[01:14:53]  There are two possibilities here, and I think they're both trash.
[01:14:56]  The first is that Alex actually means the things he's saying in clips like that, and in that case, he should be hospitalized immediately.
[01:15:02]  100%.
[01:15:03]  He's completely insane and detached from reality, rambling about how he's been beyond God's consciousness.
[01:15:08]  The other possibility is that he doesn't mean any of this, and he's just a dorky fucking child trying to impress his audience with these meaningless esoteric ramblings about how holy he is, and in that case, I think he probably should be hospitalized too, because it speaks to a level of narcissism that is dangerous.
[01:15:24]  I know I'm banging this drum quite a bit, but just try and imagine him thinking he could be taken seriously in 2003 talking like this.
[01:15:34]  His career would have been torpedoed.
[01:15:36]  Amazing.
[01:15:37]  It's embarrassing.
[01:15:39]  Yeah, you...
[01:15:40]  Listen.
[01:15:42]  Sometimes you don't necessarily need a boss, but you need somebody to check on your power.
[01:15:47]  No!
[01:15:47]  Dude, I like what I was saying about how unbearable this show is because it doesn't have commercial breaks.
[01:15:51]  Right.
[01:15:51]  You need something.
[01:15:53]  Something.
[01:15:54]  You need something to check your bullshit.
[01:15:56]  Yeah, you can't live in a situation where your narcissism can be let run wild.
[01:16:03]  Yeah.
[01:16:03]  Because inevitably, I think when you have the tendencies of someone like Alex, you're just going to end up turning yourself into a trans-dimensional...
[01:16:14]  Pseudo-God, basically.
[01:16:16]  Yeah, well, yeah.
[01:16:17]  That sounds fun.
[01:16:18]  Yeah, it's fun.
[01:16:19]  It is fun, but you shouldn't do it on the radio.
[01:16:22]  No, especially when your whole shtick is that, like, you've proven everything you say.
[01:16:27]  I'm right about everything I've seen.
[01:16:29]  There's a bumper that they used to play, and it was like, don't worry, everything we say is documented.
[01:16:34]  Tomorrow's news today.
[01:16:35]  You documented that time you went past God's consciousness?
[01:16:39]  Absolutely.
[01:16:40]  He's got a...
[01:16:41]  Look, he framed...
[01:16:42]  It's a meme on his wall, buddy.
[01:16:44]  Okay.
[01:16:44]  Where do you think you bring that back from?
[01:16:46]  A universe outside of God's knowledge.
[01:16:48]  Alex has a stamp in his passport from outside God's consciousness.
[01:16:54]  Fucking idiot.
[01:16:55]  Oh, man.
[01:16:56]  Anyway, back to news stories, I guess.

=== MRNA: Gene Therapy Controversy (09:39) ===

[01:16:58]  Just one of the seraphim at the fucking gates, just like, hey, all right, you bringing anything in from outside of God's consciousness?
[01:17:06]  Hey, look, it's still like...
[01:17:07]  You got any fruits?
[01:17:08]  Vegetables?
[01:17:09]  Declare that shit.
[01:17:09]  Yeah, I mean, you gotta...
[01:17:10]  There's still rules.
[01:17:11]  Yeah, hey, come on.
[01:17:12]  This is it.
[01:17:13]  Just because we're in multiple dimensions doesn't mean we don't have rules.
[01:17:16]  So, back to news news.
[01:17:18]  Yes, gotcha.
[01:17:18]  Another video I want to play in a moment.
[01:17:20]  Bayer executive brags mRNA shots are gene therapy marketed as vaccines.
[01:17:27]  I'm going to hit this news and the rest of the story in a moment, but here's the clip of them bragging about it at the World Health Summit in the UN.
[01:17:37]  Here it is.
[01:17:40]  Ultimately, the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell and gene therapy.
[01:17:45]  I always like to say, if we had surveyed two years ago in the public, would you be willing to take gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body, we would have probably had a 95% refusal rate.
[01:17:58]  I think this pandemic has also opened many people's eyes to innovation in a way that was maybe not possible before.
[01:18:08]  This was a guy named Stefan Ulrich giving a speech at the 2021 World Health Summit, and I think this clip really illustrates Alex's failure in terms of reading and listening comprehension.
[01:18:18]  The clip that Alex plays doesn't include Ulrich saying that the COVID vaccine is a gene therapy.
[01:18:23]  He's saying that the success of this mRNA vaccine should give people hope about the possibility for future gene or cell therapies.
[01:18:31]  Alex is just lying about what this guy is saying because what he's saying seems close enough for Alex to add false confidence.
[01:18:39]  can sell it to his audience, even though it's a lie.
[01:18:41]  Yeah.
[01:18:42]  It's brazen.
[01:18:42]  Like, if you go to the InfoWars article about this, it includes this quote, which is one of the things that Ulrich said there, quote...
[01:18:49]  Quote, ultimately, the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell and gene therapy, which is meant to give the impression that Ulrich is saying that the COVID vaccines are example of cell and gene therapy.
[01:19:01]  But he's not.
[01:19:02]  If you watch the full speech, he's saying that the leap forward embodied by the mRNA vaccines are an example of how he hopes progress can be made on cell and gene therapies that Bayer is working on.
[01:19:12]  I see no way to describe this other than a complete intentional lie on Alex's part.
[01:19:17]  It's disgusting.
[01:19:19]  Yep.
[01:19:20]  Such a shortcut taking prick.
[01:19:22]  I mean, and it's a very good point.
[01:19:25]  It's hard to argue with the point that he's making, which is, like, tons of people would have been like, GMOs!
[01:19:33]  I'm gonna die!
[01:19:34]  Gene therapy!
[01:19:34]  And now you're like, eh, I'll try it.
[01:19:37]  Fuck it.
[01:19:37]  But he's also not citing any kind of information that people are actually more willing to take cell or gene therapies.
[01:19:45]  No.
[01:19:45]  So, like, that is only a thought he has.
[01:19:48]  Right.
[01:19:51]  Maybe there's credence to the thought.
[01:19:52]  Maybe there's not.
[01:19:53]  But whatever the case, Alex is taking this and just fucking lying.
[01:19:57]  Yeah.
[01:19:58]  Not good.
[01:19:58]  This next clip actually kind of made me chuckle.
[01:20:00]  Let's look at an article that links directly to the documents.
[01:20:06]  It's out of Stat News.
[01:20:08]  Big statistical site.
[01:20:10]  Stat News.
[01:20:12]  And this article was out a long time ago, but it's been republished.
[01:20:15]  And it goes into how...
[01:20:18]  Lavishly funded Moderna by Bill Gates and the Defense Department hit safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine.
[01:20:26]  Stat News is not a site about statistics.
[01:20:29]  It's a site that focuses on healthcare-related stories, and the name is a reference to how doctors say they need something stat, which is short for the Latin word statum.
[01:20:37]  Alex finds it intolerable to not be able to take every opportunity to present himself as the guy who knows everything, so he can't really resist just making stuff up to make himself seem smarter, even though if you know anything about what he's talking about, it just makes him look like more of a desperate idiot.
[01:20:53]  This article that Alex is referencing is from January 2017, and it's his attempt to illustrate that mRNA vaccines were never able to get approved because they killed everyone in the trials.
[01:21:03]  Here's a little clip of him talking about that article.
[01:21:05]  And it goes into how they set all this up and how they developed these systems, but how they had so many problems in trials with them having bad results or killing people that Moderna was in trouble.
[01:21:19]  You gotta go read this whole article, lavishly funded Moderna.
[01:21:22]  Hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine.
[01:21:27]  That's from Yahoo News.
[01:21:29]  Stat News.
[01:21:31]  And it goes on to say, but mRNA is a tricky technology.
[01:21:35]  Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects.
[01:21:46]  Nasty.
[01:21:47]  The essential problem here is that Alex is once again making things up.
[01:21:51]  This is about how an mRNA product that Moderna was working on for Kriegler-Najjar syndrome, a rare condition affecting the liver, it wasn't working, and it had run into troubles in animal testing.
[01:22:03]  Alex has said multiple times on this episode that it made people's livers liquefy, but this article is really specific that the drug never made it to human trials.
[01:22:11]  I think he's just making that part up because he saw the word liver in the description of Krigler Najjar, and he just wrote his own story about it.
[01:22:19]  It's making water livers.
[01:22:22]  Because of the difficulty with this particular treatment, this article explains that Moderna was shifting its focus into four vaccines for, quote, two target strains of influenza, a third is for Zika virus, and the fourth remains a secret.
[01:22:34]  There may have been some trials for prospective medications that used mRNA technology that resulted in some side effects you might say are nasty, but the same is true of many different medication types that are in trials.
[01:22:46]  That's why they do trials.
[01:22:48]  Exactly.
[01:22:49]  Plus, you can find plenty of examples of pre-COVID mRNA studies that don't show horrific side effects like Alex is trying to imply was always the case.
[01:22:56]  It just is arguments shit.
[01:22:58]  But this article is actually, it is very interesting, but it's not really about...
[01:23:03]  The negative side effects being a problem for Moderna, and more of it just being like, their company seems like it's run by an asshole.
[01:23:12]  That seems to be a lot of what the thrust of this article is.
[01:23:15]  I mean, that's probably true.
[01:23:18]  So true to form, Alex does get back to talking about liquid livers.
[01:23:21]  Sure.
[01:23:22]  You know, maybe I should just read this whole article on air.
[01:23:25]  Do it.
[01:23:26]  I dare you.
[01:23:27]  It's just incredible.
[01:23:28]  Stat News.
[01:23:30]  Yahoo.
[01:23:31]  And the whistleblowers.
[01:23:33]  And other times, they had whistleblowers come out of these companies, and they'd have to stop it.
[01:23:37]  And the biggest thing it does, if you read the articles that are linked from this, that's what I did, is it eats the liver.
[01:23:43]  The biggest problem is when they try to cure cancer and stuff.
[01:23:46]  Eating livers.
[01:23:47]  They've got mRNA technology that will literally kill cancer, but then six months later, your liver liquefies.
[01:23:54]  Sure.
[01:23:55]  Yeah.
[01:23:55]  That makes sense.
[01:23:56]  Uh-huh.
[01:23:57]  So Alex is bringing up the liquid livers.
[01:24:00]  There are five articles that are linked in the Stat News article.
[01:24:04]  One is about the other Zika vaccine candidates that are coming into trials that are in competition with Moderna's.
[01:24:09]  Right.
[01:24:10]  One of them is about how the CEO of Moderna seems like a dick, and he's lost some top talent because he's a dick.
[01:24:14]  Because he's an asshole.
[01:24:15]  Another is an interview with that CEO in Forbes.
[01:24:18]  The fourth is a CB Insights article about Moderna's valuation.
[01:24:22]  And the last one is the closest to what Alex is talking about, which is an editorial in Nature that's pretty negative about Moderna's.
[01:24:31]  It's not.
[01:24:32]  Oh, okay.
[01:24:32]  The problem is that that article is about how Moderna wasn't publishing information about their research, so no one really could evaluate what they were doing, or they couldn't It's about liquefying your company.
[01:24:47]  So here's what the article says in relation to livers.
[01:24:51]  Quote, patients with Kriegler-Najjar are missing a key liver enzyme needed to break down bilirubin, a yellowish substance that crops up in the body as old red blood cells break down.
[01:25:02]  Without that enzyme, bilirubin proliferates in the blood, leading to jaundice, muscle degeneration, and even brain damage.
[01:25:09]  Yet Moderna could not make its therapy work, former employees and collaborators say.
[01:25:13]  The safe dose was too weak, and repeat injections of a dose strong enough to be effective had troubling effects on the liver in animal studies.
[01:25:22]  The rest of Alex's entire presentation is just completely made up, which is why he's never going to read the entire article when he says he should, because he knows he's a liar, and the information that he'd end up reading wouldn't satisfy.
[01:25:33]  And why do that?
[01:25:34]  If he read the article, he would just have to editorialize and say a bunch of shit pretending it's in the article.
[01:25:40]  Why not skip that step and just make shit up anyway?
[01:25:42]  I mean, we've seen him read things that actively counter what it is he was just saying, continue talking as though it didn't, and then add it in.
[01:25:51]  It's still from the article that he's reading.
[01:25:53]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:25:54]  Just be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:25:55]  And if he does say something that disagrees with him, he's like, and that's how you know they're lying.
[01:26:00]  You're like, what are you fucking doing?
[01:26:02]  It's a real piece of shit.
[01:26:02]  Yeah.
[01:26:03]  And listen to this clip.
[01:26:04]  Here's another instance of Alex being a total, total piece of shit.
[01:26:08]  Okay.
[01:26:08]  My father, who I love a lot, almost died from Delta.
[01:26:14]  My mother was the sickest she's ever been.
[01:26:16]  Rob Dew almost died.
[01:26:18]  He's still seriously sick from what he went through.
[01:26:21]  I had other family that died.

=== Satanic Threats and Crossfire (15:18) ===

[01:26:24]  I felt like I had a thousand pound gorilla sitting on my chest for two weeks.
[01:26:29]  Didn't make a big issue out of it at the time.
[01:26:30]  I was on air with it.
[01:26:31]  You came on air.
[01:26:33]  You came to studio for two weeks without a mask.
[01:26:38]  Everybody around you, you're saying, got really sick and Rob Do is still dealing with the side effects.
[01:26:43]  You are, I would say, a central hub in the middle of all of these other data points.
[01:26:50]  I, too, if I were Alex, would probably invest a lot of emotional attention into trying to talk about how this was a bioweapon plan foisted upon us by the globalists, because the alternative is recognizing that his stubbornness and inability to be careful and take things seriously could have, in effect, gotten everyone around him sick, and everybody that he cares about almost dying.
[01:27:16]  And that would be probably pretty difficult to emotionally handle, so I would probably retreat into bullshit conspiracies, too.
[01:27:23]  Yeah, if I heard that...
[01:27:24]  And I worked at Infowars.
[01:27:26]  I'd sue him.
[01:27:26]  I would sue the shit out of him instantly.
[01:27:28]  I would be like, oh, goodbye.
[01:27:29]  I have a massive lawsuit.
[01:27:31]  Guess what?
[01:27:31]  I'm another person who's joined the globalists trying to send you a fucking message, which is quit, you piece of shit.
[01:27:38]  Yeah, because this is Alex saying that he knowingly...
[01:27:42]  He knowingly infected everybody.
[01:27:43]  Yes.
[01:27:44]  Yes.
[01:27:44]  That is...
[01:27:45]  I mean, you can't...
[01:27:46]  At very least, this is a...
[01:27:48]  Your literal employer can't give you a disease on purpose.
[01:27:51]  It's an unsafe working environment that...
[01:27:54]  I'm fairly certain you could at least get in some trouble.
[01:27:58]  Did he disclose it to his employees the moment he walked in the office without his fucking mask on?
[01:28:03]  I don't think so, because I would assume that at least some of them would fucking leave.
[01:28:07]  Yeah.
[01:28:09]  I know that at least some of the people who work at InfoWars are probably...
[01:28:13]  You know, on board with everything and zealots like him.
[01:28:17]  Right.
[01:28:17]  But I don't think everybody is.
[01:28:19]  At least a few just have to be like, this is a gig.
[01:28:21]  It's a gig.
[01:28:22]  It's a gig.
[01:28:23]  I'm not going to die.
[01:28:24]  My name's not on anything.
[01:28:24]  I'm not going to die for InfoWars.
[01:28:26]  Right.
[01:28:27]  I don't know.
[01:28:28]  That's crazy.
[01:28:29]  I would encourage anybody who works at InfoWars or worked...
[01:28:33]  Sue the shit out of him after listening to that clip.
[01:28:35]  Explore a potential worker abuse lawsuit.
[01:28:37]  I would fucking sue him if I was his dad!
[01:28:39]  You almost killed me, you dick!
[01:28:42]  But he loves him a lot.
[01:28:43]  Eh, well, I wonder how much now.
[01:28:46]  So, Alex not only loves his dad, he also now loves Glenn Beck.
[01:28:51]  Sure.
[01:28:52]  Why not?
[01:28:53]  This is sad.
[01:28:55]  Glenn Beck is the biggest show we've got that's getting deeply into the Great Reset and the New World Order.
[01:29:00]  Rogan's bigger, but he's only getting into some of it.
[01:29:03]  He's starting to really get it.
[01:29:04]  Because Joe wants to know something frontwards and backwards before he covers it.
[01:29:08]  Carlson's hitting it some, and that's good.
[01:29:10]  But I keep obsessing on Glenn Beck because...
[01:29:13]  Because?
[01:29:15]  I mean, if Glenn Beck gets really good and fully awake, I'm going to hand him a Tondo and I'm out of here, man.
[01:29:23]  I just...
[01:29:24]  Oh, my God.
[01:29:26]  And it's not even that...
[01:29:28]  It's not even that I don't want to be here and be on air anymore.
[01:29:32]  Which you don't.
[01:29:35]  I just feel like it's time for other people to stand up and fight this.
[01:29:41]  Yeah, please.
[01:29:42]  Please.
[01:29:43]  Let Glenn Beck be your spiritual successor, you dumb prick.
[01:29:47]  Go for it.
[01:29:48]  Yeah.
[01:29:48]  Oh, my God.
[01:29:49]  Wait for him to take over the mantle for Alex and then within a year apologize for everything and then try and get on Trevor Noah's show.
[01:29:58]  So sorry.
[01:29:59]  We have his image.
[01:30:00]  I'm apologizing.
[01:30:01]  And then five years after that going right back to it.
[01:30:03]  And then Mark Levin pulls out or something like that and then all the funding goes away for the blaze and then he, oh, I don't know, he has to fire Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder and then the fun right turns against him and oh no, he's crying.
[01:30:19]  This is so embarrassing.
[01:30:20]  Pulls out a chalkboard because it's his only friend that's left.
[01:30:23]  Also, let's imagine how fucking quickly this whole thing falls apart if he hands the baton to Owen.
[01:30:28]  Oh, boy.
[01:30:28]  That'd be fun.
[01:30:29]  But it does answer a question that we've had for a long time, and that is, who does he feel is his heir apparent?
[01:30:35]  Yep.
[01:30:35]  And obviously, now we know that it's Owen.
[01:30:37]  Someone older than him.
[01:30:38]  Owen, well, spiritually, it's Glenn Beck.
[01:30:42]  Yeah.
[01:30:42]  But Infowars, Owen would take over.
[01:30:44]  It's the only thing he's got.
[01:30:45]  Infowars goes out of business.
[01:30:47]  Six weeks?
[01:30:48]  I was going to say six months, but I was going to be very generous.
[01:30:50]  Yeah, I would say six weeks.
[01:30:51]  I would say six months if the reserves are decent.
[01:30:55]  Oh, yeah.
[01:30:56]  I mean, just imagine the day one, or no, the week one revenue drop would be staggering.
[01:31:03]  Because we already know.
[01:31:04]  No, week two.
[01:31:05]  Because I think there would be some shiny new car kind of feel.
[01:31:08]  Sure, sure, sure.
[01:31:09]  Like the grand opening kind of thing for Owen's first week.
[01:31:12]  And then everyone's like, oh, no.
[01:31:14]  Well, we already know.
[01:31:17]  Whenever it's not Alex, and we don't need any special information for this, when it's not Alex, they're not selling shit.
[01:31:25]  No, and the numbers you can even see on Bandai video drop dramatically from Alex's shows to the other shows.
[01:31:32]  Yeah.
[01:31:32]  And there's no interest among radio stations to syndicate Owen's war room, nor is there any interest in the American Journal.
[01:31:43]  The reach that you'd have would drop so fucking hard.
[01:31:48]  Owen doesn't have any real handle on...
[01:31:51]  Some of the stuff that gives Alex plausible deniability, which is the historical tradition of anti-communism and these far-right people.
[01:32:02]  Alex was baked in that world.
[01:32:04]  He came out of that from the John Birch Society, and because of that, he can rattle off all kinds of nonsense about Cecil Rhodes and what have you that make you think that he knows this shit backwards and forwards.
[01:32:16]  Owen doesn't.
[01:32:17]  He can yell at people he thinks are cucks.
[01:32:20]  He can do.
[01:32:21]  It is so weird to say this, but Owen is just too shallow.
[01:32:28]  Compared to the most shallow man I can think of.
[01:32:33]  It appears to not be.
[01:32:34]  There's a presentation of something.
[01:32:36]  Can you fucking imagine Owen trying to get on the show and doing that I've been beyond God's consciousness nonsense?
[01:32:44]  Get the fuck out of here.
[01:32:45]  You wouldn't be able to intrigue the audience at all in the...
[01:32:49]  Dumb shit that Alex does.
[01:32:51]  It's a recipe for disaster, but I think it's fucking hilarious that Alex thinks that the thing that'll be like, okay, now I can retire is if Glenn Beck is doing a good enough job.
[01:33:01]  Oh my god.
[01:33:02]  Tell that to yourself in 2009, you dumb asshole.
[01:33:05]  Tell that to yourself honestly now.
[01:33:07]  Look in the mirror and say, like, I just want Alex to really look in the mirror one time and just be like...
[01:33:14]  Glenn Beck is who I want to be.
[01:33:17]  Glenn Beck will finish my work.
[01:33:19]  Oh, man.
[01:33:21]  Carrying my standard into the future.
[01:33:24]  Crying Glenn Beck with his dumb chalkboard.
[01:33:27]  One guy who's a steady hand.
[01:33:30]  Oh, man.
[01:33:32]  No, the only way they work is to completely change.
[01:33:36]  If Alex leaves, InfoWars has to be like, okay.
[01:33:40]  We have to distance ourselves from Alex.
[01:33:42]  Yeah, probably.
[01:33:43]  That's the only way.
[01:33:44]  But I don't think there's any real space in the market for that.
[01:33:47]  Nope.
[01:33:48]  I think their funding goes away, and so the one thing that makes them special also goes away, which is the high production value and the appearance that's similar enough to an actual news station.
[01:33:59]  Yep.
[01:33:59]  That's gone, and without that crutch, I don't think anyone cares about a web show that Harrison Smith does, or Owen.
[01:34:07]  It's Harrison Smith alone in his room with a painting that isn't hung up, buddy.
[01:34:11]  What kind of audience decrease did David Knight experience when he left and started doing his own videos on TikTok or whatever the fuck he's on, on Rumble?
[01:34:22]  That will be all of their futures, and Glenn Beck is...
[01:34:29]  I mean, he's just a dick who goes wherever the money is, and the money is in this extremist nonsense that's similar to Alex right now, so he appears to be...
[01:34:39]  On the exact same page and like, oh, Alex, you woke me up or whatever the fuck.
[01:34:42]  He thought the money was in a different area five years ago, so he tried to go there.
[01:34:46]  And as soon as this tide changes, if it changes, he'll be back to being like, you know who's great?
[01:34:52]  Mitt Romney.
[01:34:53]  You got it.
[01:34:54]  Yep.
[01:34:54]  I was never on board with all those extremists.
[01:34:56]  Actually, I was, and I'd like to apologize.
[01:34:58]  I'm so sorry.
[01:34:59]  I'd like to do a big press campaign where I apologize.
[01:35:02]  These other people won't apologize.
[01:35:03]  They won't ever admit they're wrong.
[01:35:05]  I'll admit I'm wrong twice, and then I'll do it again.
[01:35:08]  And what I think this speaks to is Alex's real actual desperation to not do this anymore.
[01:35:14]  I can't believe so many people still work there.
[01:35:16]  The writing's on the wall, man.
[01:35:18]  Yeah, I'm trying to kill all of you by giving you COVID.
[01:35:21]  And he's literally trying to kill you!
[01:35:22]  And I want to leave.
[01:35:23]  I want to quit.
[01:35:24]  I hate this.
[01:35:25]  Wow.
[01:35:26]  So, over the weekend, there was an interview, or maybe at the end of last week, an interview that Melinda Gates did on...
[01:35:34]  I can't remember what show it was on, but she talked about how evil Epstein is.
[01:35:39]  Sure.
[01:35:40]  And so now Alex is really excited about this.
[01:35:42]  My ex-husband's buddy.
[01:35:45]  Yeah.
[01:35:45]  I hate that guy.
[01:35:46]  Yeah, no.
[01:35:46]  He's a real piece of shit.
[01:35:47]  That is what her interview was.
[01:35:49]  Yeah, that's great.
[01:35:50]  So Alex is really excited about this.
[01:35:51]  Right on time, lady.
[01:35:52]  He thinks that, you know, you gotta give her the...
[01:35:56]  doubt.
[01:35:56]  She's probably a really great person.
[01:35:59]  I hate everyone.
[01:36:00]  And I said, she's distancing herself and they are splitting off the foundation and they're putting, and so Dr. McCullough said this, Mercullough, not McCullough, his halo of being the angel and buying off the media and paying billions a year to control the press in medical news and to underwrite ABC News, NBC News, CNN, MSNBC, you name it.
[01:36:23]  But they're moving the halo to her.
[01:36:25]  But I said, if she comes out and actually attacks him and says Jeffrey Epstein is evil and says Jeffrey Epstein is a molester and says this is part of a satanic system, then she's not part of it.
[01:36:37]  And we shouldn't say she's evil if she comes out fully and attacks Gates for being part of Epstein and admits that's part of the reason she left him.
[01:36:46]  And she did it last week on CBS News.
[01:36:48]  So people need to give her the benefit of the doubt.
[01:36:51]  Because we've never gotten information that she's a eugenicist.
[01:36:54]  We've never gotten information she's a child molester.
[01:36:57]  What?
[01:36:58]  So, I think it's really nice that Alex is giving Melinda Gates the benefit of the doubt.
[01:37:02]  How?
[01:37:03]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:37:04]  I have this vague memory of something that Alex said in the past.
[01:37:07]  What do you think he said?
[01:37:08]  I have been threatened specifically to shut my mouth about Bill Gates.
[01:37:13]  His wife two years ago in Germany said, those of you...
[01:37:17]  Out there claiming we're running a worldwide eugenics extermination program.
[01:37:21]  Better watch it.
[01:37:22]  If you don't shut your mouth, people are going to start dying.
[01:37:25]  And the news went, does she mean we're stopping her from saving people?
[01:37:29]  No.
[01:37:29]  It was a public death threat.
[01:37:31]  All right, fine.
[01:37:32]  So we have no evidence.
[01:37:33]  Fine, fine, fine.
[01:37:34]  But you still got to give her the benefit of the doubt.
[01:37:36]  Sure.
[01:37:36]  What's a little public death threat, really?
[01:37:38]  It's no big deal.
[01:37:39]  Hold on.
[01:37:39]  I'm having another memory.
[01:37:40]  Okay.
[01:37:41]  Bill Gates' wife last year gave a speech in Germany.
[01:37:43]  She said, if you don't stop talking about this, those of you conspiracy theorists saying we're trying to reduce population, we're going to, a lot of people are going to die.
[01:37:51]  People, then the word went out, well, didn't you get that threat?
[01:37:53]  Like, oh, I got the threat.
[01:37:54]  You didn't, what you just think, like, we don't know how dangerous it is to go up against you.
[01:37:57]  Oh, my God, you threatened us.
[01:37:59]  Oh, my gosh, I'm going to run away scared now.
[01:38:02]  They think we're stupid.
[01:38:03]  They keep going, shell out to us, back off, or we'll get you.
[01:38:07]  And it's like...
[01:38:09]  Sell out to killing everybody?
[01:38:12]  Sell out to jumping in bed with a bunch of demons?
[01:38:17]  Hell no.
[01:38:17]  Alex seems to have really taken that death threat he's pretending happened pretty seriously, but this is also a little unnerving.
[01:38:23]  Turns out that Melinda Gates is a demon, according to Alex in the past.
[01:38:27]  But I mean, that's still kind of vague, you know?
[01:38:29]  He's really talking about a group of demons, so maybe he meant that she was like a really cool person who was making death threats on behalf of a group of demons.
[01:38:36]  Right.
[01:38:36]  Hold on, I'm having another memory.
[01:38:37]  Let's hear it.
[01:38:38]  Oh no.
[01:38:39]  But something very interesting happened that really crystallized a lot of things, and I was so busy, I didn't notice this happened five days ago.
[01:38:47]  Melinda Gates went on today, one of the big morning shows, wearing an upside-down cross.
[01:38:56]  Uh-oh.
[01:38:57]  Now, Snopes says, well, we don't know it's satanic.
[01:38:59]  Give her the benefit of the doubt.
[01:39:01]  That doesn't mean affiliation with the Church of Satan, because they supposedly are the authority, so Snopes checked with them.
[01:39:07]  And they said, is she a Satanist?
[01:39:09]  I'm not kidding.
[01:39:10]  And they went, oh, well, an upside-down cross isn't necessarily affiliated with us.
[01:39:19]  And we've blown it up.
[01:39:21]  We're going to show you some shots of that coming up in the last segment of this hour.
[01:39:26]  And it is an upside-down cross.
[01:39:28]  Sure.
[01:39:28]  Clear as day with a ring of rubies around it, like a corona.
[01:39:35]  And I actually said, you know, I've seen that symbol before, and I went and did some research, and I sent it over to the producer this morning, but that producer is off today, so I didn't see it in my full stack, but I'm going to resend it to the new producer, and I'm going to show you actually where that symbol comes from.
[01:39:48]  I said, where have I seen an upside-down cross with a red corona around it?
[01:39:55]  And where I thought I'd seen it, I'd seen it.
[01:39:57]  Very horrible sign.
[01:40:00]  Symbolizes the death of the sun.
[01:40:06]  So it's beyond the pentagram.
[01:40:08]  It's about as satanic as you can get.
[01:40:11]  Alex is such a fucking idiot.
[01:40:13]  Nothing means anything on this show because he's just making things up to suit whatever is convenient for him in the moment.
[01:40:18]  Melinda Gates is presumably happily married to Bill, and she's a part of the demonic cabal and is maybe the worst of them all, but with that threatening Alex's life publicly and wearing that jewelry.
[01:40:28]  That's a great fun game that only gets disrupted when she's getting divorced from Bill and is critical of his association with Epstein, and now two of your narratives are running into each other in a way that shouldn't be happening if your worldview means anything.
[01:40:41]  Oh, what do you do then?
[01:40:42]  It's simple.
[01:40:43]  You just pretend that you never said all the stuff you said in the past.
[01:40:45]  No evidence that she's all evil and what have you?
[01:40:47]  Never seen any evidence that she's...
[01:40:49]  Except for that whole show that he did in May 2020 about how her necklace is a deep satanic message that she was putting out on the Today Show.
[01:40:55]  Well, sure.
[01:40:56]  Fucking stupid.
[01:40:57]  I mean, yeah.
[01:40:57]  That happened.
[01:40:58]  And sure, she was married to Bill for a long time.
[01:41:01]  And sure, she's been heavily involved in the Gates Foundation for a long time.
[01:41:06]  And sure, those things are fundamentally working for the devil.
[01:41:11]  Right.
[01:41:11]  But we don't know that she wanted to work for the devil, man.
[01:41:16]  Maybe she was being held captive by the billions of dollars that she had.
[01:41:20]  You know?
[01:41:21]  Maybe someone forced her to wear that upside down cross on the Today Show.
[01:41:24]  Maybe Bill was keeping her in like a Scrooge McDuck tower of gold.

=== She's Trying to Become Like Alex (00:44) ===

[01:41:29]  Alright, I just thought that was stupid.
[01:41:30]  That's very stupid.
[01:41:31]  It's fun, because what he's trying to do is he's trying to rehab her image, because the narrative now is like, hey, if people are trying to defect over to the Patriot side, let's give them a chance to.
[01:41:41]  Give them everything that they can.
[01:41:42]  So the storyline is going to be that she's trying to become like Alex.
[01:41:47]  I've never seen anything.
[01:41:48]  So dumb.
[01:41:48]  Yep.
[01:41:49]  So Alex does, I will say, surprisingly few ads on this episode, but he does one, and this is two minutes long, but this is a sales pitch where he's legitimately just describing a bad business model.

=== Price Dilemma (04:28) ===

[01:42:07]  Okay.
[01:42:08]  I'm in a catch-22, and I've tried to explain this.
[01:42:11]  We can sell enough Winter Sun and enough Rain Force Ultra, And enough X2 and X3 to fund our operation and stay the same size and fight off the Democrat lawsuits and the harassment and the dirty tricks.
[01:42:28]  If we could get these products in stock.
[01:42:33]  But they're routinely sold out on average more than six months.
[01:42:37]  And here's the catch-22.
[01:42:39]  When I sell them at full price, we would be able to fund everything.
[01:42:43]  In fact, I could probably do it at 25% off.
[01:42:45]  We've done the math.
[01:42:46]  25% off barely.
[01:42:47]  People are habituated where I always sell stuff at 30, 40, 50% off, so people wait until that happens.
[01:42:53]  Then I sell out of it quicker, but don't make enough money back because there's not a lot of markup in these.
[01:42:59]  Should you be explaining this to me?
[01:43:00]  There's such high-quality stuff that's in them.
[01:43:02]  I won't adulterate.
[01:43:03]  I won't cut the quality.
[01:43:06]  So a lot of our best brands are now not available anymore.
[01:43:09]  We have to discontinue because you just can't get the products anymore.
[01:43:12]  The products we can get...
[01:43:14]  The price has gone up.
[01:43:15]  The supply chain's broken down.
[01:43:17]  I don't want to go up in price.
[01:43:19]  And if I discount it, people buy it.
[01:43:21]  If I don't discount it, people don't buy it.
[01:43:24]  So, like, two weeks ago, I go, well, I'm going to stop offering stuff at 50% off.
[01:43:32]  But then I talk to the accountant, and they go, well, you really need to move all this at 50% off just to be able to get money in to be able to buy more that's coming in in 15, 20 weeks.
[01:43:43]  And so we're doing this math and stuff, trying to figure out what we do.
[01:43:49]  So I'm going to tell you, I'm just going to make the decision right now.
[01:43:52]  We're going to sell down to just a few thousand bottles of each, or a few hundred bottles of each, of all these products, and then henceforth, the biggest sell we're going to do on these is 25% off.
[01:44:05]  Because again, supply chain breakdown, all of it.
[01:44:07]  Good luck.
[01:44:08]  And cost of goods going up, we cannot discount at 40 or 50% off anymore.
[01:44:13]  He said that, like, over and over again, like a year ago.
[01:44:17]  For 10 years.
[01:44:17]  Yeah.
[01:44:18]  But this is like, if I hear this stuff, I'm just like, I'm going to look for my stuff elsewhere.
[01:44:22]  This is not, this doesn't inspire confidence.
[01:44:25]  It's not a catch-22.
[01:44:27]  Your options are both failing.
[01:44:30]  That's not a catch-22.
[01:44:32]  That's just you're going to fail.
[01:44:34]  Right.
[01:44:35]  If you do this, you fail.
[01:44:36]  And if you do that, you fail.
[01:44:37]  If this description of what's going on with his business is in any way accurate, it's like...
[01:44:42]  Then you're going out of business.
[01:44:43]  It's just inevitable.
[01:44:44]  Eventually, long enough time frame, you're going to bleed yourself dry.
[01:44:48]  Yeah.
[01:44:49]  And if I were an investor listening to that, I would be like, this is a failure.
[01:44:53]  I would not want to get involved with this.
[01:44:56]  Owen, do you want to take over a failing business?
[01:44:58]  Just so you know.
[01:45:00]  And I want to say this to any future investors or anybody who wants to buy our products.
[01:45:04]  We are going out of business.
[01:45:07]  Well, we shot ourselves in the foot because we do these ridiculous sales in order to have a money bomb, if you will.
[01:45:12]  A flash of money come in.
[01:45:15]  And we've gotten to the point where...
[01:45:17]  I think people recognize that our products are fine, but they're certainly not worth paying more than 40% off for, and so they wait around, and they know eventually I'll give in and do those sales, and so we can't make enough money to do it.
[01:45:31]  We're doing good.
[01:45:33]  Listen, I just want to tell you that this business operates in the red, and it will never not do that.
[01:45:38]  So if you want a business...
[01:45:40]  That you continually have to put money into that you will never get back.
[01:45:45]  It could operate out of the red.
[01:45:46]  I've got a business for you.
[01:45:47]  It could operate out of the red if Alex could sell these things for 10% off, but the audience won't buy them for that.
[01:45:53]  See, that's not a catch-22.
[01:45:54]  That's a failure.
[01:45:57]  And I don't know if it's necessarily a function of the audience getting used to him having these sales as much as it is.
[01:46:03]  That's how much it should cost.
[01:46:05]  They don't want to pay 10% off prices for it.
[01:46:08]  Right.
[01:46:08]  That doesn't...

=== Why Alex Trolls Putin (12:50) ===

[01:46:10]  They can get it cheaper elsewhere.
[01:46:11]  Right.
[01:46:12]  A lot cheaper.
[01:46:12]  Maybe they would pay a little bit more to buy it from Infowars.
[01:46:17]  Right.
[01:46:17]  But not a lot more.
[01:46:18]  Nope.
[01:46:19]  Yeah, you're fucked.
[01:46:20]  You're fucked.
[01:46:21]  Yeah.
[01:46:21]  And that's your own fault.
[01:46:22]  Good ad pitch, though.
[01:46:24]  So Alex starts talking some more about the Russia-Ukraine situation.
[01:46:28]  Great.
[01:46:29]  His opinions are always smart.
[01:46:30]  They're so good.
[01:46:31]  Yeah.
[01:46:32]  Back in the Trump days, people would talk about Alex being a Russian agent quite a bit.
[01:46:37]  And so Alex decided back then he was going to go to Russia to troll people.
[01:46:42]  Right.
[01:46:43]  And Alex says something that's a little bit of a revelation in terms of this.
[01:46:47]  I was going to go to Russia four years ago and do interviews and live feeds and get massive viewers and pull a stunt.
[01:46:56]  And when I put out my passport on Twitter, they said, look, he's a Russian agent.
[01:46:59]  And they had Democrats up on the Hill say, we should investigate Alex Jones.
[01:47:03]  He's got a Russian visa.
[01:47:04]  Real quick, that was a fake visa.
[01:47:07]  Alex trying to pretend that was a real passport.
[01:47:11]  It was not.
[01:47:12]  Which anybody could get if you're in the media.
[01:47:14]  I want to go over there.
[01:47:17]  They called Tucker Carlson a Russian agent for wanting an interview with Vladimir Putin, but everybody else can interview Vladimir Putin from the New York Times or CNN, but he can't at Fox News.
[01:47:28]  It's how they handicap everybody where you can't even...
[01:47:33]  By the way, I had the Russian media through RT, we sent them emails saying, yes...
[01:47:40]  If you want to fly to these mountains, maybe on this date, he'll have a press junket, and you might get one question in while he's hunting.
[01:47:47]  We weren't going to go interview Putin.
[01:47:48]  I'm not going to go do that to maybe get one question into Putin.
[01:47:52]  I'm sure it'd be some cool mountain in the Urals while he's hunting God knows what, but no, I didn't go to that.
[01:47:59]  But I didn't want to go to Russia to be a Russian agent.
[01:48:01]  I wanted to go to Russia because I want to go to Egypt.
[01:48:03]  I want to go to Israel.
[01:48:04]  I want to go to Japan.
[01:48:06]  I want to go to Easter Island.
[01:48:08]  I want to go to Alaska!
[01:48:10]  I've never been to Alaska!
[01:48:11]  If Alex keeps supporting Putin the way he is, he might be able to visit Alaska and Russia at the same time.
[01:48:17]  Also, stay the fuck out of Easter Island, you asshole.
[01:48:20]  No, that's Dan's place.
[01:48:21]  You can't run Dan's Holy Island.
[01:48:24]  The thing, though, too, is that I think Alex might be making too little of this notion of being offered...
[01:48:31]  To ask Putin a question at some mountain resort.
[01:48:35]  Yeah, that's kind of, uh, that's amazing.
[01:48:38]  If true, that's a real kind of overture that's being made by the Russian media.
[01:48:45]  If true, I really do feel like Alex would have gone.
[01:48:48]  Yeah.
[01:48:50]  Yeah.
[01:48:50]  I think so.
[01:48:51]  I mean, he wants to, he would at least get to stand next to Putin and be like, hello?
[01:48:55]  Yeah, or associate yourself in some way.
[01:48:58]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:48:58]  He would kill to have a clip of him asking Putin a direct question and Putin responding.
[01:49:03]  What do you think about the globalists?
[01:49:04]  Well done, Alex.
[01:49:06]  You're a good boy.
[01:49:07]  That's all he needed to hear.
[01:49:09]  Yeah.
[01:49:09]  When he was on a Russian TV show, he started crying when they talked about how he was a great example of American man.
[01:49:16]  You're a good boy.
[01:49:17]  I am a good boy.
[01:49:19]  Thank you.
[01:49:20]  Yeah.
[01:49:21]  I almost killed my dad last year.
[01:49:25]  I don't know.
[01:49:26]  I'm conflicted about what to believe about this.
[01:49:28]  There's a part of me that thinks that maybe it fell through or something, and this is Alex's way of saying, like, I didn't want to go at all.
[01:49:34]  Yeah, I never wanted to go in the first place.
[01:49:35]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:49:36]  Or he's making it up entirely, and this is how he makes it believable.
[01:49:40]  Also possible.
[01:49:40]  I'm not sure.
[01:49:41]  It is weird, though.
[01:49:43]  I mean, if you put this in context with other stories he's told about, like...
[01:49:48]  This weird background stuff with RT.
[01:49:52]  Possibly a government offering him a bunch of money three years ago.
[01:49:56]  There's so many details.
[01:49:58]  Something sketchy here.
[01:50:00]  Something absolutely sketchy is going on.
[01:50:02]  Either Alex is making up a whole lot of stuff, or there's some other details he needs to provide.
[01:50:09]  And the fact that they continue to drop in weird ways.
[01:50:15]  Unrelated to necessarily what it is he's trying to say as almost like a little brag aside where you're like, you only do that whenever you are kind of proud of something.
[01:50:25]  Something's going on.
[01:50:26]  Yeah.
[01:50:26]  I don't know what to make of it, but it's weird.
[01:50:28]  I don't know what it is.
[01:50:29]  So look, Alex doesn't like what's going on in Ukraine.
[01:50:31]  Right.
[01:50:32]  Because it's bad.
[01:50:33]  Sure.
[01:50:33]  It's murder.
[01:50:35]  But...
[01:50:35]  Wait, no, there's nobody.
[01:50:38]  And what I see out of Ukraine...
[01:50:43]  Now that Russia has invaded, it's not good.
[01:50:47]  Ukraine has lied about the nuclear reactors saying they shelled it.
[01:50:50]  That's what you're saying is not good?
[01:50:51]  None of that was true.
[01:50:53]  There was no leak, no extra radiation.
[01:50:55]  The Snake Island massacre didn't happen.
[01:50:58]  The ghost of Kiev, it was all made up.
[01:51:00]  And almost everything coming out of Zelensky's mouth is a lie.
[01:51:07]  Now, I don't say that because I'm pro-Putin.
[01:51:10]  I say that because I'm pro-truth.
[01:51:12]  Okay, man.
[01:51:14]  And I'm pro-Putin.
[01:51:15]  Okay, man.
[01:51:16]  I would say that this is not being weighed with the lies that Putin is telling.
[01:51:23]  From what I'm seeing out of Ukraine, it's bad.
[01:51:25]  And the reason it's bad is because Zelensky did not tell the truth about how a nuclear reactor did not melt down.
[01:51:34]  It was just hit by large-scale ammunition.
[01:51:38]  Yeah.
[01:51:39]  And I'm going to tell you.
[01:51:41]  That makes me think it's okay for Putin to go in there and murder millions of people.
[01:51:45]  I think that's totally fine.
[01:51:46]  Obviously, this is an act of justification.
[01:51:48]  Yeah.
[01:51:49]  Obviously, this is the way that this is being used.
[01:51:52]  But I think it's just an absolute coward's move to say that Zelensky and Ukraine are just total liars.
[01:52:02]  And then not discuss what lies are coming out of Putin.
[01:52:06]  Like, if you're going to pretend that you just care about the truth, then you need to give equal measure to both...
[01:52:13]  And the supposed lies that are coming out of each.
[01:52:16]  And if he were to do that, this would be a four-hour special report.
[01:52:21]  And it would be a lot of Putin's lies.
[01:52:22]  Yeah, but he doesn't do that.
[01:52:24]  No, he parrots Putin's lies, in fact.
[01:52:27]  Yeah, and the interest is in just branding the other side as liars.
[01:52:30]  Ukraine's so, they're so lying.
[01:52:33]  It's in service of supporting Putin without having to stand up and actually make that your position, because Alex is a...
[01:52:39]  Fucking coward.
[01:52:40]  Yeah.
[01:52:40]  And a liar.
[01:52:41]  It would be so terrible if you stood up and said, I support Putin's war of aggression against a sovereign nation because I am thoroughly pro-Putin and I think he's going to murder my political enemies.
[01:52:52]  But I will say that Alex does kind of have a little bit of a criticism of Putin.
[01:52:58]  I said this a week ago.
[01:52:59]  I said, looks like Putin's putting in his junior varsity, his conscripts, because they have a draft over there, using them as human targets to pull out...
[01:53:07]  The identities and emplacements for special forces of where the Ukrainian troops are so they can kill them.
[01:53:15]  And indeed, that's what happened.
[01:53:16]  That's a nasty tactic by Putin, sending in his greenest troops.
[01:53:24]  But it's a desperate tactic.
[01:53:26]  Alex didn't say that a week ago.
[01:53:28]  No, absolutely not.
[01:53:30]  He said that Putin had paid off the Ukrainian government and was going to get zero resistance trying to take the country.
[01:53:34]  And he also said that Zelensky was a double agent secretly working for Putin.
[01:53:38]  Yeah.
[01:53:38]  This is complete horseshit, and the example of Alex trying to lie about his past positions in order to make himself sound like he knows what he's talking about, in hindsight.
[01:53:46]  Also, if that's what Alex really thinks Putin's doing, then I think it deserves a little bit more of a rebuke than what I'm hearing from Alex.
[01:53:53]  Isn't that disqualifying?
[01:53:55]  It's kind of good.
[01:53:56]  He's giving them a little bit of a softball treatment.
[01:53:58]  Alright, okay.
[01:53:59]  I think it's bad that Putin is sending children?
[01:54:03]  As human bait?
[01:54:04]  Yes, and just putting them out there to die in order for him to kill more people.
[01:54:11]  Yep.
[01:54:11]  Seems like kid gloves that Alex is doing here.
[01:54:15]  That's bad tactics.
[01:54:16]  I don't have any problem with it morally.
[01:54:18]  It's a nasty tactic.
[01:54:20]  Yeah, and again, this is all in function of supporting Putin while having a cowardly shield over yourself of pretending that that's not what you're doing.
[01:54:29]  It's just crazy to me, though, that you would have that cowardly shield and then still come off like a psychopath.
[01:54:35]  You know?
[01:54:35]  Well, but I think that if you're not engaging with what Alex is saying critically, it doesn't come off like a psychopath.
[01:54:40]  I guess.
[01:54:40]  He has the appearance and the delivery of someone who wants the passive listener and someone who's not engaging all that much to think like, well, he's looking at both sides.
[01:54:50]  He's looking at all the angles here.
[01:54:51]  And I think that he gets away with that with his audience.
[01:54:55]  But if you take the time to actually listen to what he's saying.
[01:54:58]  And ask yourself, like, why is he saying this?
[01:55:02]  What is the point of this?
[01:55:03]  You get such a clear picture of, like, this is all just Putin's support.
[01:55:08]  Like, here's a great example of this.
[01:55:10]  Like, why would he throw this narrative in to his conversation about the situation of Putin invading Ukraine?
[01:55:17]  And so I don't want to be like the corporate media that says somebody said something and then not show it.
[01:55:22]  Let's play a new clip that I hadn't seen until now.
[01:55:25]  I'd read the writings of his foundation saying it, and Fiona Hill, but I'd never seen him say it, where he brags and calls Eastern Europe and the Caucasus and the Slavic nations that border Russia, his former Nazi happy hunting ground, where he helped round folks up with the Nazis, literally.
[01:55:46]  He calls it the Soros Empire.
[01:55:48]  Here it is.
[01:55:54]  When the Soviet Union, the Soviet Empire collapsed, and as the Empire collapsed, I moved in and picked up the pieces.
[01:56:07]  First in Hungary in 1984, and then Poland in 1987, China in 1987 as well.
[01:56:18]  And so this is how...
[01:56:24]  The Soros Empire.
[01:56:29]  Replacing the Soviet Empire.
[01:56:32]  And how do you think you're doing in your imperial ambitions?
[01:56:38]  So, there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:56:42]  There you go.
[01:56:43]  Let's play that clip one more time.
[01:56:47]  Just so everybody gets it very clear and has it on record, so you can share it and get it out there to folks.
[01:56:51]  Here it is.
[01:56:52]  Play it twice.
[01:56:53]  And this time, let's edit out the laughter so it doesn't sound like he's very obviously making a joke.
[01:56:57]  Yeah, it's so clear that's a joke.
[01:57:00]  I mean, that could not be more obviously a joke.
[01:57:03]  Well, I guess he thinks he's the Archduke of the Empire.
[01:57:07]  I mean, come on.
[01:57:08]  Ask yourself, though, Jordan, what is the point of playing that clip in the middle of a conversation about Putin invading Ukraine?
[01:57:14]  The only possible point you could be making is that Putin is justified and correct to invade.
[01:57:20]  There's no other interpretation you can find in the context of Infowars.
[01:57:24]  I mean, he's not trying to overthrow Ukraine.
[01:57:26]  He's trying to overthrow the Soros Empire.
[01:57:29]  He's trying to right the wrongs of Soros' meddling.
[01:57:32]  Because he's a Nazi.
[01:57:33]  Simultaneously, he's trying to get back these bioweapon labs that the United States is using to create COVID-2023 or whatever.
[01:57:42]  I mean, the funniest part about this is...
[01:57:44]  Right now, he's so cowardly in trying to couch this differently.
[01:57:47]  I think he's going to wind up talking himself into being like, I think Putin's 100% justified here.
[01:57:52]  I think once he has cover to do it, he will.
[01:57:55]  I think he will for sure.
[01:57:56]  I would not be surprised.
[01:57:57]  Also, it's weird that the clip just ends.
[01:57:59]  You can tell by where it was cut off.
[01:58:02]  This is something Alex just found on social media.
[01:58:04]  It's a 42-second clip that's going around, being posted by weird Twitter accounts that seem to be making the argument that Putin isn't wrong to have invaded Ukraine because Soros is agitating.
[01:58:14]  This is from a 2015 chat he gave at the Asia Society.
[01:58:17]  The full video is up on their website, and if you want to, you can go watch it.
[01:58:21]  It's clear, if you do, that Soros is talking about funding organizations that worked to promote democracy in formerly undemocratic countries.
[01:58:28]  That's the whole point of the chat, and Alex would know that.
[01:58:31]  He's taking this clip out of context if he didn't just get this little snippet from Twitter and decide to report on it like he knows what he's talking about.
[01:58:38]  And again, there's no reason to introduce this out-of-context clip into the conversation unless you're trying to support Putin.

=== Disagreement Over Drug Policy (04:19) ===

[01:58:45]  There's no other function for it whatsoever.
[01:58:47]  Nope.
[01:58:48]  So Alex gets to talking more about...
[01:58:50]  Soros.
[01:58:51]  It becomes like a really long Soros complaint session.
[01:58:54]  Yeah, that sounds about right.
[01:58:56]  And unfortunately, because of that...
[01:59:00]  I actually realize that I don't agree with Alex about something that I thought we were in agreement about.
[01:59:06]  There were very few things that I thought we had like common cause.
[01:59:10]  Civil asset forfeiture.
[01:59:11]  Well, that one still might be in play.
[01:59:13]  Oh, okay.
[01:59:14]  It turns out I don't agree with him about drugs.
[01:59:16]  Oh, shit.
[01:59:17]  And he means it.
[01:59:18]  And he has a list of things.
[01:59:19]  Transgenderism to sterilize the boys.
[01:59:21]  Fluoride in the water.
[01:59:23]  Weaponized marijuana on the streets.
[01:59:25]  Drug legalization.
[01:59:27]  Not because he wants to help people.
[01:59:29]  Because I think we should decriminalize drugs.
[01:59:32]  We should not legalize them.
[01:59:34]  What?
[01:59:35]  Don't put people in prison for being on heroin or cocaine.
[01:59:40]  Then...
[01:59:41]  But don't legalize it.
[01:59:43]  What?
[01:59:43]  So people get addicted to it.
[01:59:45]  You just penalize the dealers.
[01:59:49]  You don't penalize the users.
[01:59:52]  But Soros wants it all legalized, so you're so blown and blasted out of your brain, you don't know who you are.
[01:59:57]  That's an incoherent position, and I would say that it's really counter to his fake libertarian ideology that he likes to protect.
[02:00:05]  Don't legalize drugs.
[02:00:09]  Penalize drugs.
[02:00:10]  Well, I mean, yeah.
[02:00:11]  So it's like, don't legalize it.
[02:00:13]  Decriminalize it.
[02:00:14]  Except if you have enough that the government can make an argument that you're dealing it.
[02:00:19]  And then it's still criminal.
[02:00:20]  Yeah.
[02:00:21]  I just think it's by degrees still just...
[02:00:23]  It's the same thing.
[02:00:24]  Exactly.
[02:00:25]  This is a meaningless difference that he's suggesting.
[02:00:29]  And I think it's dumb.
[02:00:32]  And I actually kind of...
[02:00:34]  I don't want to say my heart breaks, but like...
[02:00:36]  It does bum me out when there are things that I'm like, well, at least he's on the right side of this.
[02:00:42]  At least we can find some agreement that the criminalization and illegalization of drugs, the drug war itself, is a stupid waste of resources that has been used to destroy communities.
[02:01:00]  But it's not.
[02:01:01]  That's not his position.
[02:01:03]  Nope.
[02:01:04]  And that sucks.
[02:01:05]  Nope, he wants to criminalize black people for being.
[02:01:10]  Well, like, think about what the intent-to-distribute laws have been traditionally.
[02:01:15]  They have only been used for good!
[02:01:17]  Well, but also, like, what's the line between personal use and intent-to-distribute?
[02:01:21]  It's arbitrary.
[02:01:22]  It's just, I mean, 10 grams.
[02:01:25]  Right.
[02:01:25]  Or 20 grams.
[02:01:26]  A friend of mine...
[02:01:27]  A kilogram!
[02:01:28]  A friend of mine back in...
[02:01:30]  Back when we were like...
[02:01:31]  18, 19, or something.
[02:01:34]  He bought a trash bag full of weed one time, and he did not intend to distribute it.
[02:01:38]  Nope.
[02:01:39]  That was for personal use.
[02:01:40]  That was a good weekend.
[02:01:41]  That was to be a fun time.
[02:01:43]  It was in a trash bag.
[02:01:44]  Yeah.
[02:01:47]  So yeah, I think that it's so transparent to anybody who has any experience with drugs, or anybody who's thought about this for a while, that...
[02:02:00]  The position that Alex is advocating for is lip service towards caring about drug use and solving that problem.
[02:02:09]  In reality, it wouldn't solve anything.
[02:02:12]  Nope.
[02:02:12]  He's an idiot.
[02:02:13]  Wouldn't even reduce things.
[02:02:14]  It'd just be used differently.
[02:02:16]  Because the point is slaves.
[02:02:18]  But also, not to gloss over the transphobia that was inherited in that clip as well.
[02:02:24]  Right, right, right.
[02:02:24]  Of course.
[02:02:24]  Fuck that noise.
[02:02:25]  Yep.
[02:02:26]  But Soros, Soros is just, he's got all these things that he's trying to destroy the world with.
[02:02:31]  And he's put thousands of DAs and more than 20 attorney generals in power.
[02:02:44]  And if you're a conservative and you've had two beers, you're getting the book thrown at you for DWI.

=== Painfully Intertwined Narratives (04:38) ===

[02:02:51]  You're going to go to prison for a couple years.
[02:02:53]  But if you're a Black Lives Matter person that shoots five people and kills them, you're out in a week.
[02:02:58]  I'd be interested to see if Alex could come up with any Black Lives Matter person who got away with murder because of a Soros district attorney.
[02:03:04]  On the flip side, Alex is actually an interesting counterpoint to his own argument, seeing as that he got a DUI last year and he didn't go to jail.
[02:03:12]  Yep.
[02:03:12]  The whole thing digging into Soros when he was setting out to have a conversation about Ukraine and Russia is super telling.
[02:03:18]  This is the most cowardly, weaselly way for him to support Putin without having to get his hands dirty by pretending he's talking about Soros, his longtime enemy.
[02:03:28]  It's just utterly weak shit from this asshole.
[02:03:31]  And he should have stayed on vacation.
[02:03:33]  Forever.
[02:03:34]  I told you, maybe it was before we started recording, or maybe it was at the beginning of the episode, I can't remember, but I lost patience with this episode, and we're coming to the point where I just lost all interest in this.
[02:03:49]  It's such a trash show.
[02:03:51]  It needs commercial breaks.
[02:03:53]  There's just not a centrist position for a war.
[02:03:59]  If you are pulling this bullshit...
[02:04:02]  About there being like a both sides argument for Putin invading Ukraine, then you're fucking dumb.
[02:04:09]  You're just running interference.
[02:04:11]  So you're pro-Putin.
[02:04:12]  That's it.
[02:04:13]  I think that you can have critiques and concerns about ways that Ukraine may be carrying out the defense of their own country.
[02:04:21]  Tons!
[02:04:22]  You can do all kinds of things.
[02:04:23]  And I think that there's room for that conversation.
[02:04:25]  And if Alex were having that, I think that there would be a lot more...
[02:04:29]  Credence to the things he's saying, but he doesn't want to have that conversation because that doesn't justify the invasion.
[02:04:34]  No.
[02:04:35]  He's doing these things and he's using these specific talking points because they are ways that he can support Putin and Putin's actions without having the stink on him of being the guy who's like, hey, you know what?
[02:04:47]  I love Putin.
[02:04:47]  You know who does do that, though?
[02:04:49]  Nick Fuentes.
[02:04:50]  There you go.
[02:04:51]  Who's on Alex's network.
[02:04:52]  Yep.
[02:04:53]  Has a channel on banned.video.
[02:04:54]  Straight up.
[02:04:56]  You know, his speech straight up was like getting Putin chants going.
[02:05:00]  So, Alex doesn't want that.
[02:05:02]  Because he's not willing to be that out in public.
[02:05:02]  Right.
[02:05:05]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:05:06]  Even though his business is failing, he still has something to maintain and protect.
[02:05:10]  I suppose.
[02:05:12]  So, yeah.
[02:05:13]  Anyway, he reads a headline about Putin.
[02:05:15]  And you'll notice he has to editorialize a little bit here.
[02:05:17]  Yeah, you would have to.
[02:05:18]  Putin's sanctions are a declaration of war.
[02:05:21]  No fly zone warning.
[02:05:22]  Weighs cyber attacks as the West engages in cyber attacks against Russia, saying that it's an act of war if Russia launches any cyber attacks back.
[02:05:31]  Very, very dangerous situation.
[02:05:34]  What Alex did is so transparent.
[02:05:37]  He read a headline that said that Putin's weighing a cyberattack and instinctively, almost as second nature, He pretended to extend the headline to say that Putin is being hit with cyberattacks.
[02:05:47]  I mean, yeah, Putin is preparing a cyberattack.
[02:05:51]  Well, obviously the only reason he would do that is because he's under cyberattack.
[02:05:54]  Yeah.
[02:05:55]  One part of this is that Alex supports Putin.
[02:05:57]  That's painfully clear.
[02:05:58]  But the other part is that Putin's almost painfully intertwined with Alex's narratives at this point, that Alex can't really do much negative stuff about Putin without really tanking some of the plates he's trying to spin.
[02:06:08]  He's got this whole thing going about how Klaus Schwab is going to do a false flag cyber attack, so if Alex accidentally reads a headline about Putin considering a cyber attack, he's going to have to immediately invalidate it or run the risk of weakening his Schwab narrative.
[02:06:23]  In order to keep his own bullshit afloat, Alex is essentially required to give Putin passes on a whole lot of stuff.
[02:06:28]  He has to pretend to not know a lot of stuff, and he has to lie about a ton of stuff.
[02:06:33]  That's kind of...
[02:06:34]  Where he's constrained by his own machinations.
[02:06:37]  Yeah.
[02:06:38]  His own machine holds him.
[02:06:40]  It constrains him to not being able to talk about certain things.
[02:06:45]  Yeah, I mean, you've set this guy up, who is very obviously evil, to be the leader in the fight against the globalists right next to Trump.
[02:06:55]  So you have to say that committing war crimes and murdering people is fine.
[02:06:59]  Yeah.
[02:07:00]  Yep.
[02:07:00]  Killing civilians and shelling humanitarian corridors.
[02:07:05]  Gotta.
[02:07:05]  You have to deny it by saying, well, what about the ghost of Kiev?
[02:07:08]  It's never happening.
[02:07:09]  Ukraine is just liars.
[02:07:10]  Absolutely.

=== Bear Chooses Putin Meme (07:33) ===

[02:07:12]  Putin weighing a cyber attack.
[02:07:14]  You're like, no, no, no, no.
[02:07:15]  They're doing it to him.
[02:07:17]  And it's just, it's annoying.
[02:07:19]  And it's one note.
[02:07:21]  It's very see-through.
[02:07:23]  Yep.
[02:07:23]  And this next clip is actually where I decided to say, hey, how about you go fuck yourself?
[02:07:28]  And it's not because of any negative content.
[02:07:30]  It's just because this show is trivial to a level that is disrespectful to the issues that he's pretending to cover.
[02:07:39]  We aired this piece more than four years ago.
[02:07:43]  Back when Trump was first in office, they were calling us all Russian agents.
[02:07:47]  There's a restaurant, downtown Austin, that's Russian and Eastern European flair.
[02:07:53]  What's the name of that restaurant?
[02:07:55]  Russia House.
[02:07:56]  And they've got a cloakroom with Russian outfits and things.
[02:08:01]  It's a joke you can wear.
[02:08:03]  It's like a theme party place.
[02:08:05]  They've got pretty good food, actually.
[02:08:06]  Hadn't been there in years.
[02:08:08]  Fine.
[02:08:08]  So we had an office party there.
[02:08:11]  And you can see some of the ladies that work here.
[02:08:15]  One of them is Millie.
[02:08:16]  We did a little impromptu.
[02:08:17]  I set my camera on the table, my phone.
[02:08:19]  And I said, okay.
[02:08:20]  We did one take.
[02:08:21]  It was pretty.
[02:08:22]  Pretty funny there.
[02:08:24]  But the media picked this up and said, look, he's a Russian, thinking their viewers are so dumb.
[02:08:29]  And the Russians were insulted by it and said, look at Jones making fun of us to say it on national Russian TV.
[02:08:34]  But I think the Russians have a sense of humor.
[02:08:37]  So we're first going to air a really funny clip of Russians train with a bear.
[02:08:44]  And it's really funny.
[02:08:45]  The bear is like shaking the tree while the guy bounces up and down on it because the Russians are known for taking.
[02:08:50]  Both grizzly bears and other bears.
[02:08:52]  A couple of species.
[02:08:53]  This is a grizzly bear.
[02:08:54]  As pets.
[02:08:56]  And so they've got one as a pet that's playing with the soldiers.
[02:09:00]  And folks were joking that this is Alex Jones in Rocky IV.
[02:09:05]  That was what the tweet said.
[02:09:06]  So here is the Russian trains with a bear behind him.
[02:09:09]  A little bit of comic relief.
[02:09:10]  And then we'll play the next clip.
[02:09:12]  Alex Jones is not a Russian agent.
[02:09:14]  So first things first, no one in the media covered Alex's dumb trolling video of him at that Russian restaurant.
[02:09:19]  No one talked about that.
[02:09:20]  No one took it seriously, and I strongly doubt that anyone in Russia took offense to it either.
[02:09:25]  Absolutely not.
[02:09:25]  If anyone in Russia ever saw that video, then Alex is under closer surveillance than I would have thought.
[02:09:30]  Like, I don't believe anyone gave a shit.
[02:09:32]  No chance.
[02:09:32]  Real awesome use of time on this emergency broadcast, though.
[02:09:35]  Like, I can't believe he spent a half an hour talking about a stupid meme at the beginning of the show, and now he's playing troll videos from, like, four years ago.
[02:09:42]  What a fucking asshole.
[02:09:43]  So there's also that video going around on, like, TikTok and Twitter, some guys training with a bear.
[02:09:48]  Yeah, I saw it.
[02:09:48]  I have no idea if it came from Russia, and neither does Alex.
[02:09:51]  It's just another meme that he thinks is worth covering on his super important news show.
[02:09:55]  So he gets done with playing these videos, and then he says this, and this is where I turned it off.
[02:09:59]  Let me show you some memes that I thought were pretty informative that I saw.
[02:10:02]  No!
[02:10:05]  A cartoonist put this out.
[02:10:06]  What the fuck?
[02:10:07]  What are you doing?
[02:10:08]  A meme roundup?
[02:10:09]  I can't imagine anything less respectable in terms of a broadcast.
[02:10:15]  And this is past the two-hour point.
[02:10:17]  He had set out to do two hours.
[02:10:18]  Just stop.
[02:10:19]  You don't need to do meme coverage.
[02:10:22]  Go home.
[02:10:23]  America's racist home memes.
[02:10:26]  I mean, he's doing like Tosh 2.0 for memes.
[02:10:31]  It's brutal.
[02:10:32]  Barely.
[02:10:32]  Barely.
[02:10:33]  Yeah, exactly.
[02:10:34]  And I said barely as a pun.
[02:10:35]  As a pun about the bear.
[02:10:36]  I was there.
[02:10:37]  Pun unintended, but then celebrated.
[02:10:41]  Absolutely.
[02:10:42]  So yeah, this sucks.
[02:10:44]  I was mad about this special report.
[02:10:49]  Because it's trash.
[02:10:50]  I mean, the information that he's covering stinks.
[02:10:54]  It needs commercial breaks.
[02:10:56]  That's really, as somebody who listens to his show so much, That's one of the things I come away with most, essentially.
[02:11:04]  It's awful to watch or listen to without breaks.
[02:11:08]  It's just unsustainable.
[02:11:11]  His commentary jumps around all over the place.
[02:11:15]  It's meandering.
[02:11:18]  Yeah, but how would you know if you hadn't listened to this one?
[02:11:22]  That the devil was currently trying to create a separate pocket universe outside of God's awareness.
[02:11:28]  And there are other pocket universes that Alex has been to.
[02:11:31]  And he's been to a bunch of them!
[02:11:32]  And instead of playing a harp in heaven like theologians think you do...
[02:11:36]  That would be fucking stupid if you were a theologian.
[02:11:38]  Shut up.
[02:11:39]  That is a choice you can make.
[02:11:40]  Oh, well, that is a choice you can make.
[02:11:42]  Theologians think it's the only choice.
[02:11:44]  That's where they're wrong.
[02:11:44]  They're stupid.
[02:11:45]  You can go to these pocket universes if you want to.
[02:11:47]  I don't think that's a problem.
[02:11:49]  I think this is...
[02:11:50]  Look...
[02:11:51]  Obviously, fucking unhinged and stupid, but also so transparently trying to support Putin in a way that he thinks is hedging his position to make it not something that could be damaging to him should people call him on it.
[02:12:06]  And I think that sucks.
[02:12:07]  I think it's weak.
[02:12:10]  I think that he should just come out with it already and let the chips fall where they may.
[02:12:17]  Stand up for the thing that you obviously support.
[02:12:21]  If you're running interference for Putin, you're pro-Putin.
[02:12:26]  That's how it works.
[02:12:28]  Right.
[02:12:28]  You can't just say, like, I don't take sides in this war.
[02:12:31]  No, but that's what he pretends.
[02:12:32]  Exactly.
[02:12:32]  And there isn't coverage of, like, why Ukraine is right.
[02:12:39]  What are the things that make Ukraine correct in this situation?
[02:12:43]  It is only...
[02:12:46]  Branding them as liars, and Zelensky is a liar, and lionizing the supposed arguments why Putin is right.
[02:12:54]  That's the only coverage that really is at all put forth on this.
[02:12:59]  And then also applying his standard villains like Soros as ways to communicate why Putin is right.
[02:13:07]  It's not that he supports Putin's invasion.
[02:13:11]  However, George Soros invaded already, so it's like, why?
[02:13:14]  He's not really invading.
[02:13:15]  He's uninvading, honestly.
[02:13:17]  Right.
[02:13:17]  That's what it is.
[02:13:18]  He's righting the wrong.
[02:13:19]  I mean, I don't even know why Ukraine's fighting back.
[02:13:21]  It's not like Putin's trying to take over their country.
[02:13:26]  He's trying to give it back to them.
[02:13:28]  Yeah.
[02:13:28]  You know what, Dan?
[02:13:29]  Like America before him, Putin's just a liberator.
[02:13:33]  Sure.
[02:13:33]  That's what he is.
[02:13:34]  He's liberating.
[02:13:34]  This stinks.
[02:13:35]  Yep.
[02:13:36]  COVID narratives suck.
[02:13:37]  Sucks butts.
[02:13:38]  But I think probably the most.
[02:13:40]  Sad part about all of it is...
[02:13:42]  Memes.
[02:13:43]  No.
[02:13:44]  Glenn Beck.
[02:13:47]  That's pretty sad.
[02:13:48]  Yeah.
[02:13:48]  It's hard to be sadder than framing a meme.
[02:13:52]  Yeah.
[02:13:52]  Especially a meme that is part of a meme trend that's making fun of people like you.
[02:13:59]  Yeah.
[02:14:00]  That's pretty sad.
[02:14:01]  Yeah, if Glenn Beck is listening to this, which I assume he is, all world leaders wind up listening to this show eventually.
[02:14:07]  That's true.
[02:14:08]  Yeah, that's just obvious.
[02:14:09]  I would just say that if you are sadder than a framed meme, you should really think about your life.
[02:14:15]  Yeah.
[02:14:16]  Let's just see if you can call Samantha Bee.
[02:14:19]  Sadder than a framed meme.
[02:14:20]  So anyway, Jordan, we'll be back.
[02:14:22]  Indeed we will.
[02:14:23]  On our next episode.
[02:14:24]  But until then...
[02:14:25]  We have a website.
[02:14:26]  That's true.
[02:14:26]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[02:14:27]  Right.
[02:14:27]  We also have a Twitter account.
[02:14:29]  We are.
[02:14:29]  It's at knowledge underscore fight and not go to bed, Jordan.

=== Huge Fan Call-In (00:15) ===

[02:14:32]  We will be back.
[02:14:33]  But until then, I'm Neo.
[02:14:34]  I'm Leo.
[02:14:35]  I'm DZX Clark.
[02:14:36]  I'm Dr. Marbles.
[02:14:37]  And now here comes the sex robots.
[02:14:39]  Andy in Kansas.
[02:14:40]  You're on the air.
[02:14:41]  Thanks for holding.
[02:14:43]  Hello, Alex.
[02:14:44]  I'm a first time caller.
[02:14:45]  I'm a huge fan.
[02:14:46]  I love your work.