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Dec. 8, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#624: November 30, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check back in on the present day to see what Alex is up to. In this installment, Alex interviews a weirdo Australian MP, does an infomercial he swears isn't an infomercial, and says "baby" more times than you'd expect. Citations

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
18:54
d
dan friesen
45:40
j
jordan holmes
18:34
Appearances
g
george christensen
03:20
Clips
d
donald j trump
00:02
k
klaus schwab
00:51
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding me.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
alex jones
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is new chords for the mic.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes, there are new chords.
dan friesen
As somebody who edits the episodes and such, I have grown weary of hearing little pops every now and again.
I know that it's something that can drive people crazy.
A little bit.
So, I got new chords.
alex jones
Excellent.
dan friesen
And I'm hoping that that problem will be resolved.
jordan holmes
Oh, it better be.
dan friesen
Because that was almost certainly where that was coming from.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
Tech perfectionism.
God damn tech!
I was somebody who recorded or replaced these chords after a couple months.
jordan holmes
Six years.
dan friesen
Of knowing there was a problem.
What about you?
jordan holmes
Mine is long underwear.
Never worn long underwear before in my life.
dan friesen
You know what I call that?
Pants.
jordan holmes
Pants, baby!
No, my partner got me these long underwear.
I've never worn them before in my life.
This morning, this was our first Chicago day where it was really down to that single digits temperature.
I'm walking my dogs at 630.
My legs are toasty and warm.
I've never felt better in my life.
dan friesen
Well, I'm happy for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's great.
dan friesen
Are they Long Johns?
Is that the name of them?
jordan holmes
No, they're just the pants ones.
I don't have the overall.
I don't have the sleeves.
dan friesen
I don't think the overall is necessary for a long job.
jordan holmes
I can't open my asshole.
Yeah, I don't have the butt flap.
dan friesen
You've got to work on that.
You've got to get yourself a little bit of a better operation going there.
Get yourself a butt flap.
jordan holmes
Well, you know.
I'm not going to be in the ice fishing range.
dan friesen
You need to turn yourself into a little boy from a comic strip.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's a terrible idea.
I wear the same exact clothes every day, so that would make sense.
dan friesen
There you go.
Yeah.
So, Jordan, today we are back in the present day.
We are going to be talking about November 30th, 2021 Blackjack.
And some people may have noticed that we had two 2003 episodes, our last two episodes.
Something came up, everything was okay, but we had two episodes that we had pre-recorded, and so that's why there was some stuff going on in the world, and maybe...
Like, you know, Tucker said that Alex is a great journalist, and we don't seem to know, it's because we recorded those before any of that stuff happened.
So there's a lot of nonsense and some chicanery going on in this episode.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I'm excited to get down to business talking about all of it, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, the Eye on Keenan group chat.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Back out next, InfoJazzy Jim.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Jim!
alex jones
Thank you!
dan friesen
Next, Lachlan from Australia.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Lachlan!
dan friesen
Back out next, Scorpion Dagger.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
And Kropotkin.
That's Kropotkin, but like with a bird, the crow.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Is that Brandon Lee or is that Jason Lee?
unidentified
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Which one of those?
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, so Bianca Cortez, happy birthday.
I love you.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much!
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much!
dan friesen
Also, I've been thinking about this.
With Reset Wars in the mix, I think it's time for us to do a reset, too.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
I think I need to make some new sound drops.
jordan holmes
I don't know if we want to participate, because then we're participants in the Reset Wars.
You understand?
If we reset, we have entered the fray of Reset Warring.
dan friesen
I think I'm just doing a parody of it by making a new sound effect.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, sure.
dan friesen
There may be some new drops coming.
jordan holmes
That's one way of viewing it.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, this episode is silly.
It's stupid.
But here's an out-of-context drop from it.
alex jones
Yes, I can go into a rage and I can pull somebody's head off their body.
But I could do it even more powerfully through love.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I could pull your head off your body more powerfully with love.
dan friesen
Because of love.
jordan holmes
Because of love.
dan friesen
We can pull heads off for love.
jordan holmes
That's interesting.
That's interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a perspective.
jordan holmes
That's a new twist on the mom lifting up the car to save her baby.
The mom just rips the head off of somebody within a block radius of her baby.
dan friesen
I feel like that's where that was coming from.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So we start off here on November 30th with Alex reporting on a clip.
That he's heard of Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Well, mark down your calendar of Monday, November 29th, 2021, for the date that Joe Biden announced publicly that he is holding 350 million Americans hostage.
We'll play the clip in a moment.
dan friesen
He, he, he, he, he.
I, Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
I do like the event.
I like the idea of him being in that situation room where you remember the picture of Obama watching...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Him sitting in there just twiddling his thumbs.
unidentified
I have all of you under hostage!
dan friesen
Seems like a clip that Alex is definitely going to play.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So there's a new theory that Alex has, and it's based on a clip that he saw of this woman being interviewed on Fox News, who he...
We'll not stop saying is beautiful, and it's a little upsetting.
But this is the new idea, that COVID is an unsolvable problem that the globalists have created.
In order to, you know, pretend that they're solving the problem, which leads to more control.
jordan holmes
Wow, I want to slap somebody.
dan friesen
Yep, and so that's one of the big themes of this episode.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
alex jones
The COVID-19 is an unsolvable problem designed to transfer all power and control to a select group of multinational big pharma corporations owned and controlled by three banking families.
And everywhere, I see people on the street, I see people even on mainline news.
Saying, wait a minute, way more people died in 2021 of COVID than died in 2020, and way more people are dying, period.
Last year, the life expectancy was the same.
74 years for a man, 76 for a woman.
Now it's dropped two years for men and two years for women.
Just this year, the average has dropped two years.
And they put different actuaries out.
I saw a few this weekend.
dan friesen
Oh, some actuaries.
jordan holmes
Ah, I can't believe that I missed those actuaries again.
dan friesen
It is true that the preliminary numbers are showing that there were more deaths in the U.S. in 2021 than there were in 2020.
And while that might seem like an argument against vaccines on the surface, it's actually the opposite.
And unfortunately, it's not all that surprising considering the way things have gone.
The explanation is super simple.
Vaccination rates are not high enough, and that is being combined with people going back to pre-COVID behavior patterns at the same time that the Delta variant was going around to being more highly transmissible.
As it's summed up in the New York Times, quote, Many Americans are behaving as though COVID-19 is now a manageable endemic disease rather than a crisis, a transition that will happen eventually but has not happened yet.
This is leading to wider spread, and there are significant gaps in immunity in the public, and that's led to deaths.
One of the most important aspects to resolving this problem is the U.S. not having under 60% vaccination rates in the population, but with voices like Alex being taken seriously at all, it doesn't seem like we're going to get there anytime soon.
As for the life expectancy thing, Alex is operating off imprecise information.
We don't have the numbers yet on 2021 for this kind of thing, but the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics announced in July that average life expectancy dropped approximately 1.5 years between 2019 and 2020.
It's not two years for men and women.
It's 1.8 years for men and 1.2 years for women, averaging out to 1.5.
A lot of this does have to do with COVID deaths and honestly when we have numbers for 2021 it's possible that the number might be even worse.
But he's speaking about this very precisely.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
And he's talking about life expectancy as though if you are 70 now, you will die in two years.
Whereas if you were 69 last year, you would have died in five years.
That's not how it works.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Although it is fun to imagine that he thinks that it's like, if you're 70, you better not stop running.
You better keep running.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that's kind of his argument.
He's like, man, 70-year-old people used to live four years longer, and now they're dead.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They're fucked.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Also, I have no idea what Alex is talking about with the various actuaries nonsense, but if he does know about the three banking families that own everything and are taking over, I think he has a duty to be more specific about that.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, if there's three banking families, they have proprietary actuaries, you know, because they're in competition with each other.
dan friesen
I don't know if the bank families are related to the actuaries.
I just think he just said it.
jordan holmes
I mean, actuaries is a fun word to say.
dan friesen
He says actuaries all the time.
And I think he just threw out the three banking families because it's sort of like a hat tip to the old school conspiracy folks who might be listening.
You love me talking about bloodlines and banking families.
How you doing out there, old school fans?
So there's some statistics that are going around, also having to do with future predictions about lifespan that are pretty troubling.
alex jones
It's estimated that, wow, people aren't going to live but to their late 60s.
In the next few years, and they say, scientists are baffled.
Gee, what just started happening?
Oh, scientists are baffled why there's been a 66th time.
Not percent, 66 times.
That's 100% 66 times.
Increase in heart attacks in soccer players around the world alone.
dan friesen
If you didn't listen to Alex's show regularly, it'd probably come off strange to hear him citing the population of soccer players as an index group for heart attacks.
But this is one of his big COVID vaccine narratives.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I see you throwing your hands up in the air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay, sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
According to some of his weirdo guests, there's a 66 times increase in the heart attacks among soccer players, and this is due to them being vaccinated and the vaccine causing these heart attacks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There have been a number of heart attacks among soccer players in the last year, but the problem is that what Alex and his guests are doing is preying on the audience's ignorance of some counterintuitive data sets.
For instance, let me read you this headline from The Guardian.
Quote, More young footballers dying of heart problems than thought, FA study finds.
It could seem like this would tend to back up Alex's theory, but in fact, that article was published in August 2018, before COVID and even before the vaccines existed.
Hmm, there's this LA Times article from 2012 titled, quote, The Frightening Frequency of Heart Attacks in Soccer.
There was a 2015 article from the New York Post titled, quote, Belgium's Young Soccer Players Dropping Dead of Heart Attacks.
The point here is that the issue of heart problems and soccer players has been something that experts have looked at and have been dealing with for years, long before COVID became an issue.
A lot of the articles I read discuss the imperfect nature of preemptive heart screening, particularly for younger soccer players, as a contributing factor to the higher-than-expected levels of cardiac issues.
Another factor is that soccer is one of the more strenuous sports you can play where your cardio is really challenged.
So if you have an underlying hereditary heart condition, for example, playing soccer is something that has the possibility of exacerbating that condition or even bringing on cardiac arrest.
jordan holmes
Makes me almost, you know, makes me almost happy to have my...
A little bit of CTE from high school football.
I didn't have a heart attack, buddy.
How about that?
dan friesen
Yeah, you dodged a bullet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
Also, another thing that needs to be taken into consideration is maybe we don't feel this as much as being people in the United States.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But soccer is one of the most widely played sports.
jordan holmes
It's the biggest sport in the world.
It's by far the biggest sport in the world.
It's the beautiful game.
dan friesen
It's great.
So sort of representatively, the number of people who you could say...
Like, had a heart attack playing soccer around the world would be...
It's a lot...
The pool from which you're drawing is a lot larger.
jordan holmes
And to a certain extent, everyone elsewhere has almost always just got a soccer ball around wherever they go.
You could be walking down the street, header, and then all of a sudden you drop dead, and that's a soccer-related injury.
dan friesen
You see the...
I watched a season of The Amazing Race.
Every country they go to, it's just people kicking soccer balls around.
Non-stop soccer balls.
Alex and his weirdo friends probably know about this history of the sort of correlation of soccer players and heart attacks or the relationship between those two things.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I think they probably know about it and are pretending they don't so they can use the instances of recent heart-related issues among soccer players to fuel COVID vaccine conspiracies.
And it's garbage.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't even know where the 66 times number comes from.
jordan holmes
Where would it come from?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Who is doing things in multiples of 66?
dan friesen
Ah, 666.
Devil, we're there.
jordan holmes
There it is.
There it is.
dan friesen
So there's another thing that is going on.
Along with the COVID, this unsolvable problem the globalists have created, there's another big catchphrase that's running through this episode, and that is, all right, look, we got Biden.
He's the good cop.
Fauci, bad cop.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Fauci's saying we need lockdowns again, where Biden's like, come on, just wear a mask.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Thanks for simplifying things.
I do appreciate all global problems being like, good cop, bad cop.
dan friesen
Now, well, it's funny you bring up global problems.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
Historical global problems.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because Alex almost makes an insane comparison here.
alex jones
And of course, you saw Biden come out last night and say, we're going to hold you hostage.
Fauci's the bad cop.
He's the good cop.
Dr. Mengele's the bad guy.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
In this equation.
And then Biden plays the good cop.
jordan holmes
Wait.
alex jones
I understand.
dan friesen
I understand he's probably just trying to call Fauci Mengele.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, the comparison that comes to mind is that Hitler is the good cop.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm hearing in the math that we're doing right here.
Biden is Hitler, the good cop, and Fauci is the bad guy.
Just wanted to be sure where we were at historically.
dan friesen
That's how it feels.
So, we get Alex discussing some calls from the media.
The media wants to talk to him.
jordan holmes
Sure!
alex jones
And you're going to see more and more people from the power structure, and believe it, she's part of it, coming out against this because people are now figuring out, hey, if we don't stop this, we're all dead.
I had the Washington Post call me this morning, some Pulitzer Prize winner, trying to sugar me up, you know, oh, I like you, oh, we're friends.
And I said, listen, I looked up your name, I know you're a Pulitzer Prize winner, and I know you've got kids.
And I said, this system coming in is going to ruin their future.
So I said, you just keep working for Jeff Bezos, and I'm not talking to you, but just know this, you've cursed your children.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
That's what I tell them.
dan friesen
You could just say no.
You could just say, like, I don't want to do this interview.
unidentified
You don't need to be like, you've cursed your children.
jordan holmes
It's a little bit weird to hear somebody obliquely mention a Washington Post reporter and have the first thing I said to them was, you got kids?
dan friesen
Because you've cursed them.
jordan holmes
Because you're cursing them.
I mean, that's not a veiled threat.
Just asking somebody, hey, you got kids?
Like that?
No, that's a threat.
dan friesen
I think when you don't know the person, too, implying that they've cursed their children, really confrontational.
It's really rude.
jordan holmes
It's a rough way to start a new friendship.
dan friesen
It's a hard way to start a phone call.
It's a hard way to end a phone call.
Especially when it's a basic-ass press inquiry.
jordan holmes
No, I don't want to change my goddamn cell service.
You've cursed your children!
dan friesen
I like the idea, too, that, like, of course, around this time, Alex is obviously someone that people want to press comment from.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Whether it be the Sandy Hook suits or the January 6th business, you know?
There's a lot of things.
Or Tucker saying he's a great journalist.
jordan holmes
Sure, somebody's got to say something to this asshole.
dan friesen
There's a lot of reasons for him to get contacted from the press.
And, like, I love to imagine that every time he's like, you got kids?
You've cursed them.
jordan holmes
You have cursed your children!
dan friesen
I also enjoy the, like...
Yeah, just sort of him doing the jack-off motion about a Pulitzer.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, you've got a Pulitzer.
Whatever, fucking suck balls.
Whatever.
Yep.
dan friesen
So here's an interesting science fiction idea that Alex has.
I'm fascinated by this a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You don't just think in their official documents they talk about 80-90% reduction.
And that they're not actually planning to get rid of almost everybody.
In fact, some of their public statements by top New World Order high priest and transhumanist movement is that there will be one super entity left and that's it.
No one else allowed.
It might want to absorb you, but that's it.
And they're all battling to be that one God.
It's totally Luciferian.
It's Garden of Eden all over again.
And that's where you are.
People like Laura Logan, I don't even know if she has children, but I bet she does, talking like that.
Look at your children in one hand, and look at the New World Order and Fauci and being on TV and being with the establishment and thinking you're part of the winning team.
You know in your heart it's a lie.
You know in your bones it's a fraud.
You know in your guts that you want to fight it!
And you want to resist it!
Just like water wants to come downhill.
It's inexorable.
Go with your instincts and your spirit.
Go with who you are.
Say, I'm going to fight evil.
I'm not going to submit.
I'm going to stand up against this satanic AI takeover.
And I'm going to really become who I really am in this struggle.
And that's why God put us in this position.
Not a simulation, but a real third-dimensional expression of our spiritual power.
We exist in all dimensions, in all time, in all space.
unidentified
Stop it.
An important message from Byram Healthcare.
dan friesen
Oops.
Kind of didn't time that one right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one got away.
dan friesen
I don't read enough science fiction.
I know that comes up on this show a lot because I don't get references or like that.
We'll get emails every now and again.
It's like, hey, that was just the plot of Black.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't recognize it because I haven't read some of this deep sci-fi that Alex loves.
I was thinking, like, is that just the Borg or something?
Like, that's gotta be something from science fiction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I got distracted whenever he said this is Garden of Eden all over again, immediately following there are these corporations fighting to become gods.
So then in my head, I was like, wait, what part of the Garden of Eden myth is battle being done by multiple different entities in the Garden of Eden?
dan friesen
Each tree represents a corporation.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Like, what are we talking about?
dan friesen
Every bush is a battle.
jordan holmes
Angels and demons are flying all over.
dan friesen
You just don't understand the deep metaphor that's going on in the Garden of Eden.
jordan holmes
Is that what it is?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Also, at the end there, I love him saying this isn't a simulation considering the entire Reset Wars interview was about how this is a simulation.
jordan holmes
The entire thing is a simulation.
This is all a simulation.
dan friesen
So Jake Doocy might not like to hear that.
jordan holmes
You can see through it choosing.
To just see through it.
And then you're Neo.
dan friesen
But apparently we're not.
Well, it's not a simulation.
jordan holmes
That would be silly.
dan friesen
I do enjoy Alex's movie phone autopilot voice he does at the end there.
That's always so great.
So great.
False.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's straight up bullshit.
dan friesen
Very insincere.
So Alex, he's mad about Klaus Schwab, obviously, because he's the, you know, I think he's really ascended to be one of the main villains, whereas George Soros was really a main villain.
Years ago, and now he's kind of fallen out of favor.
jordan holmes
We don't really talk about Soros that much anymore.
dan friesen
I haven't heard much about those fake contracts.
jordan holmes
We used to talk about Soros a lot.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Yes, there was a season for Soros.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now it is turned, turned, turned, and it's a season where Klaus Schwab is the big bad guy.
Right, right, right.
And Alex does this really interesting technique in this clip here.
I think you'll be able to see what I'm talking about.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
The mouth of Satan.
Here he is.
klaus schwab
What pleasure to be together again and to design the future.
We are here to develop the great narrative, a story for the future.
In order to shape the future, you have first to imagine the future, you have to design the future, and then you have to execute.
Here, I think the next two days, we will look how we imagine, how we decide, how we execute the great narratives, how we define the story of our world for the future.
alex jones
And there he is with corporate and governmental world leaders all together.
Saying we're coming out with microchips for your body.
You'll own nothing.
You'll like it.
You'll have nothing.
But he'll have everything.
And they just sit up with a straight face through Big Pharma, release this weapon, control the censorship, rolling it all out and packaging it in political correctness, making all the CEOs basically non-white.
So if you criticize Twitter censoring, oh, you're against Indians.
They've got it all figured out.
So, or women.
dan friesen
What?
Anderson, correction.
At the end there.
jordan holmes
An afterthought.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that Klaus Schwab clip was from a speech that he gave at the World Economic Forum, and we talked about that back in episode 618.
So if you want to go back and listen to that, we talk about it in greater depth.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You'll notice, though, that Alex did this move that I was referring to.
So he played a clip of Schwab saying one thing, and then as soon as it was over, he makes a bunch of claims about what was said at this conference.
That clip didn't include anybody saying that there will be microchips people have to put in their bodies, and no one said.
Anything about, like, you're not going to own anything and you're going to like it?
jordan holmes
I don't remember them saying that.
dan friesen
Surely, if that was the topic of conversation that happened at this summit, and there's obviously video Schwab and everyone else's speech is very easily accessible.
I mean, Alex played a clip.
He should have no problem playing these comments instead of mostly innocuous comments from Schwab that he did play.
He doesn't play those clips because they don't exist.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
That would be hard.
I mean, the problem here is Alex is getting a huge assist from all of American pop culture.
Because even me, I'm listening to that accent just going, something's evil going on here.
You know, like every time since I was a kid, if I heard that accent, somebody was murdering James Bond or some shit, you know?
Like, it's not my fault.
But that is playing into his hands quite a bit.
You can play him saying something innocuous in that...
And people will, especially Alex listeners, will be like, oh, that dude's fucking evil as shit.
dan friesen
Also, yeah, I think that the biases run strong.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then there's also biases that Alex has that are worse.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
In terms of, they put in non-white CEOs.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, Hitler was the good cop.
unidentified
So I think we're in trouble here.
dan friesen
I find that to be a really disgusting idea, this notion that non-white people are put in those roles in order to make it so if you criticize their censorship activities, oh, you're racist.
That really is offensive in many ways.
First of all, it takes away the deservingness of any non-white person who's getting into a CEO role.
Obviously, you're going to have to be kind of suspicious.
Is this just being done as a mask for something?
That's the kind of idea.
that Alex is trying to put into people's minds.
Right, right.
And really, Alex has been censored by a lot of platforms.
He's been kicked off a lot of them.
Daniel Eck is a white man, and he's the CEO of Spotify, who kicked Alex off.
Mark Zuckerberg is the CEO of Facebook.
He's a white man.
When Alex was kicked off Stitcher, their CEO is Eric Dane, who's another white man.
Alex was kicked off LinkedIn, and their CEO is Ryan Roslansky, another white man.
So there's plenty of these instances of people who have put the kibosh on Alex's ability to use their platforms.
jordan holmes
If he took my turn towards hating white men, that would be a shocker.
dan friesen
I think he's just ignoring those examples and focusing on folks that he wants to hate because they're not white men.
jordan holmes
Hey, it doesn't matter if you hurt me or not, you're non-white, so I hate you.
dan friesen
You can also criticize anybody you want and it's not racist.
You can.
If you just don't be racist about it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, I don't get it.
dan friesen
I was actually thinking about it, though, and I don't think that Alex is mature enough to do that.
I considered the possibility, but then Fentanyl the Chinese Dragon came to mind, and I realized, nah, he's not going to be able to.
If that's how you want to direct a lot of your criticism of Xi, it doesn't give me hope.
jordan holmes
No, there are better ways.
I've criticized the Chinese government plenty of times without saying any racist things.
Like, zero racist things.
dan friesen
I think you can have a full conversation about YouTube and some of the problems with it without attacking Susan Wojcicki for being a woman.
unidentified
You really don't.
jordan holmes
You just don't.
At no point in time do you need to.
dan friesen
Completely unnecessary.
But I don't think Alex can.
I think he's too hung up.
So, my man.
Who's the good cop?
jordan holmes
Hitler.
dan friesen
No, no, no, Biden.
Biden.
Now I can't say that.
alex jones
We've got Biden coming out and saying, hey, don't worry, no lockdowns, because the new normal is you're going to take whatever shots we want to give you.
You're going to always wear your mask from now on, all right?
That's the new normal.
And the media's like, oh, how nice of him.
Oh, the new normal is you've got to take shots and wear a mask forever.
Wow.
That's the good cop.
The bad cop?
Fauci's like, no, new lockdowns are needed.
And third, boosters must be mandatory.
And I just talked to Biden.
He agrees.
He's going to announce it next year.
Fauci gave an interview saying that.
Oh, they'll be mandatory by next year.
And newborn babies.
In the first quarter, we'll get the shots.
I'm a nice man.
I'm a good man.
I'm going to help your children.
And when we societally allow the mass murder and maiming of our children now happening, God will curse us and remove even more of God's protection.
jordan holmes
Oh, I hate that.
alex jones
The globalists, no.
Get people to hurt their children, get people to go along with children being hurt, and then evil is given the keys to the castle.
dan friesen
I really hope that all those cool skeptic bro types who decided all of a sudden that Alex has been right all along, I hope they're excited to realize that what they've actually done is sign off on a right-wing Christian fundamentalist extremist.
It's fun to be iconoclastic and pretend that you're in some kind of a noble opposition group against power structures, but honestly, it's really impressive how Alex has managed to scam these people into thinking that's what he's doing.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's wild.
dan friesen
For instance, how would someone like Joe Rogan or Tim Dillon respond to someone who wasn't Alex saying that they needed to be concerned about these vaccines because if you let kids get vaccinated, then the devil will have free reign to come and make mischief in the world.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
Someone who wasn't Alex saying that.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
You think they would look at that dude as someone they want to talk to?
You think Tucker is going to take time on a show to call that guy a great journalist?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you know, he's been right about a lot of things.
I don't know necessarily about the...
dan friesen
The thing that underpins all of it?
jordan holmes
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing that bums me out, okay?
Even if God is real, 100% literal Christian God is real, if you're telling me that this God is at a point where he says, okay, fine, if you guys...
I'm going to take away a little bit more of my protection.
Not all of it.
Not all of it.
That would be terrible.
I'm not a bad guy.
I'm going to take away...
Guess what?
Everybody can break their knee easier.
That's it.
That's it.
That's what I'm doing.
Then fuck that God!
dan friesen
Well, it would be really weird to imagine that for a while God was taking his time to make sure people had a harder time breaking their knees.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly!
dan friesen
That seems unnecessary.
jordan holmes
Fine, you're God, but I'm not going to worship you.
I wash my hands of you, so to speak.
dan friesen
Well, I regret to inform you that God's protection also is going to make it harder for you to wash your hands.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
So, one of the big things that drew attention to this November 30th episode was that, you know, we have some listeners in Australia.
Certainly a new Wonk Lachlan is in Australia.
Yes, absolutely.
And it turns out that a member of the Australian government happened to be on Alex's show.
On this day.
jordan holmes
Probably to really push forward a slate of progressive policies that they want Australia to adopt.
So they went to an American radio host to really try and...
Nope.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
This guy named George Christensen.
And from everything I can tell, especially from people from Australia who have reached out...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Guy's a weirdo.
jordan holmes
Real piece of shit.
Yes.
dan friesen
And so here's Alex giving him a nice introduction with a sweet old plug.
alex jones
Here we go.
George Christensen is a member of Parliament from Australia, and he is part of the ruling Liberal National Party.
Nationfirst.substack.com is where you can find his excellent and informative...
Ridings?
dan friesen
So I have a little bit of a sneaking suspicion about what's going on here with this interview with the Australian MP George Christensen.
I think he knows exactly what he's doing.
He's making some sensational ass comments about how the COVID response in Australia is like.
Nazi Germany or Stalin.
And I think he knows what he's doing with that and showing up in places like Infowars.
He's been in office since 2010.
He has a long history of being a bit of a dick, but the swing he's taking now is a bit larger.
At first, I had a tough time figuring out what was going on, but in the course of reading up on the situation, I read in a few news stories that Christensen has already announced that he's retiring from his position as MP at the next election.
He has absolutely nothing to lose from a political perspective and everything to gain from making a name for himself in the reactionary-ass right-wing media sphere.
Ever since he announced his pending retirement earlier this year, George has been ramping up his efforts to create online revenue streams, like creating this Substack newsletter, as well as using Telegram to nurture a Telegram-type fanbase.
Creeps and bigots, that is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's looking at that green-walled Substack money and thinking, Ooh, I would like some of that!
dan friesen
Along with that, he was asking his political party, the Liberal National Party, to disendorse him so he could keep a little bit over $105,000.
In like a severance thing.
A writer named Cam Wilson noticed that around this time, too, Christensen was getting pretty heavily involved in using his newsletter to make book recommendations to his followers.
However, this wasn't just like, hey, you should read this book.
It was also Christensen using Amazon's affiliate marketing program to make a cut off the books that people bought through his links in his newsletter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get them coming and going!
dan friesen
This kind of action has been seen as a bit shady for a sitting politician to be engaged in, and it feels like a strong indication that he's trying to make a move into the arena of monetizing the following he has from being a bombastic politician.
Right, right, right.
The picture of what he's up to seems pretty clear to me, like actually being engaged in politics right now is...
nightmare sucks thanks to the opportunistic politicians and media figures embracing conspiracy theories as a marketing tool yeah and now he's using getting out of government so you can keep using that marketing tool without the you know the Expectation that he clean up the mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, absolutely.
What they're all doing, this is essentially the gold rush.
Like, they're all in the fucking east going, like, there's no point in staying in Washington or government anymore, so let's head to them hills of tricking dum-dums into paying for shit they don't need.
dan friesen
Also, I don't want to get too deeply into this because it seems really weird, but Christensen also apparently has the nickname The Member from Manila.
In official circles, because an investigation revealed that between 2014 and 2018, he'd taken at least 28 trips to the Philippines, spending approximately 300 days there.
And some people have seen that as quite suspicious.
jordan holmes
He just likes the Philippines.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I mean, there's nothing suspicious going on there.
dan friesen
It's a lot of trips.
jordan holmes
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
I mean, come on.
And with the government that the Philippines have, there's no way that you would experience any kind of corruption through that.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, look, George likes Alex, and that's great, because Alex is a great place to market your sub stack.
And so that's probably what is going on here.
george christensen
Well, thank you very much, Alex.
G'day, I should say.
G'day from Australia, and good on you for standing up for freedom as well.
You're one of those beacons that we have around the world.
alex jones
God bless you, sir.
So where do you want to start?
Very eloquent words, but they were interrupting you the whole time.
unidentified
Well, they don't like to hear what I have to say.
george christensen
They don't like to hear people getting up and standing up for freedom and going against the lockdown, mask up, pro-vaccine mandate orthodoxy that's out there.
It has consumed Australia.
There is few in the political leadership landscape that actually are standing up.
For true freedom at the moment, they talk about giving us back our freedom if we do certain things.
Well, when they give us back our freedom, that's actually not freedom.
That's government control.
dan friesen
I'm not positive what true freedom means, but honestly, it just kind of sounds like a fun, meaningless buzzword sort of thing that gets thrown around on shows like these.
jordan holmes
It's about true freedom.
dan friesen
Also, it's really, really fucking funny for me to hear this guy say that there's very few people that are standing up for true freedom within the government knowing that he's retiring from his position as MP at the next election.
If he actually believed there was a shortage of people standing up for freedom against tyranny within the government, wouldn't the last thing he would think of doing be to voluntarily leave and have one less advocate for true freedom in the government?
That seems nonsense.
It seems like his ideas that he's expressing run counter to his actions.
Either that...
Or he thinks that having a substack and going on shows like Infowars, that's a more effective way to influence Australian government policy than to be actively involved in Australian governmental policy.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you know, it's like, if you're the leader of a group of freedom fighters, you know, trying to get true freedom for all the people and not just the people in government, then naturally what you do is you say, There aren't enough people around me, so I quit.
That makes the most sense.
dan friesen
We all remember when Nelson Mandela said, this is too hard.
jordan holmes
Fuck this!
dan friesen
I'm starting a live journal.
jordan holmes
You know what?
You know what?
My MySpace page is going to take off, and then I'm going to be in a band.
dan friesen
It's what heroes of true freedom have done all along.
jordan holmes
The long walk to quitting.
Yes.
dan friesen
When the going gets really tough, and there's no one standing up for shit, I'm not going to either.
jordan holmes
Why the fuck would I do that?
I'm by myself.
dan friesen
I'm going to use my Amazon affiliate program to market books to my dumb, dumb followers.
Make a cut off it.
jordan holmes
As the world ends around me, I'm going to...
We're going to be a little bit more comfortable than other people.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's my plan.
dan friesen
Seems kind of like what a shithead would do.
Anyway, George has some concerns.
george christensen
Where state governments mainly are dividing the nation up between those who are jabbed and those who aren't jabbed.
They're restricting us from jobs.
In the state of Victoria, you cannot hold a decent job unless you are vaccinated right now.
They're sacking people for not being vaccinated.
They're restricting people in my home state of Queensland from all sorts of social life, cafes, restaurants, art galleries, museums, sporting events, if you're not vaccinated.
So we truly are going to have a form of medical approach.
dan friesen
This is cute and all, but it's also pretty stupid.
For instance, George says that you can't hold a decent job in Victoria unless you're vaccinated, and that's just not true.
In early November, Victoria announced a mandate that workers in many fields will be required to be vaccinated, quote, if they want to do their jobs on site rather than working remotely.
That's a little different than the exaggeration that George is employing.
As for the situation in Queensland, there's a broad vaccine mandate where many businesses and venues will require proof of vaccines to enter.
Specifically, though, as was reported in The Australian, quote, the mandate does not apply to essential services such as supermarkets, retail stores, public transit, places of worship, and funerals.
This is not something like apartheid, partially because it's a choice.
Apartheid was a system of racial discrimination where the people who were subjected to it were oppressed because of an immutable characteristic, the color of their skin.
In this case, not getting vaccinated is a choice, and that choice comes with some potential benefits and some drawbacks.
not getting vaccinated allows you to be super combative and pretend that you have some kind of a bizarre moral high ground as it relates to freedom which for someone like George is almost certainly a benefit and a marketing tool ...
it.
unidentified
Conversely, a drawback of that decision is that you may not be welcome in many public spaces until the pandemic enters the lesser endemic phase.
dan friesen
Because your decision to not get vaccinated puts people around you in those spaces at a greater risk of contracting COVID, including the other unvaccinated people who would be there around you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like having a car that you taped a shit ton of swords to that extend just right up to the edge of the sidewalk.
And you're like, what?
If somebody gets cut by these swords, that's because they're off the fucking sidewalk, man.
What, I can't have a car now?
I can't have a car with a bunch of swords on it.
dan friesen
It's an interesting metaphor.
jordan holmes
Not many people go to the car with swords metaphor.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was caught off guard by that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that happens a lot.
dan friesen
The reality of the situation surrounding vaccine requirements to enter certain venues has no actual similarity to apartheid, but that word is evoked because all right-thinking people are offended by the historical reality of South African apartheid.
Alex, however, is not a right-thinking person, and it's really weird because he's...
Not actually against actual apartheid.
jordan holmes
Considering that he's had...
Apartheid supporters on his show.
dan friesen
Yeah, and his historical heroes, people in the John Burt Society, people like Gary Allen, were very strongly opposed to the elimination of apartheid.
jordan holmes
He's talked about how much he loves Rhodesia, for fuck's sake.
dan friesen
True.
I'm not sure if this is solid ground for these dudes to be standing on.
I don't know if saying medical apartheid on Infowars is really worthwhile.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It would be a little bit appealing to the Speech or the letter from a Birmingham jail.
It's like, see, this was a great thing.
dan friesen
So there's also, I think, a valid conversation they can have about medical apartheid, but it would revolve around how many parts of the world don't have access to vaccines, even if their public wants them.
From an article in the New York Times, quote, Worldwide, about 76% of shots that have gone into arms have been administered in high and upper middle income countries, according to the Our World in Data project at the University of Oxford.
Only.5% of doses have been administered in low-income countries.
So I think that there's an argument you could make in terms of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But this nonsense that George is going on about, I think, less real.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's one way that George thinks that you could stop this whole medical apartheid, right?
And it's basically just get rid of data.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
That'll do it.
george christensen
One thing that I think would stop it, Alex, is that we have...
Something in Australia called the Australian Immunisation Register, which is actually owned by the federal government that's supplying all of the data to say who's vaccinated or not.
Now, our Prime Minister, you're right, he's got up and he said that we're not in favour of mandatory vaccinations.
And he sort of tried to hint to the state governments that he doesn't want them to do this.
But there's a way we could end it and end it overnight, and that is simply by pulling the data.
If no state government, it's not just state governments too, Alex, it's private corporations.
There's private corporations that are right now treating their workers like slaves, like chattel, and saying that we demand if you're going to work for us that you've got to be double vaccinated.
Well, you know, these corporations need to know that we no longer live in an era where private outfits can actually tell their employees what they can and can't do with their bodies.
dan friesen
So I would say that, like, you know, in the middle of a pandemic, it's always a good idea to get rid of data.
Like, that's usually, that's a sound decision, solid stuff.
jordan holmes
I do like the right-wing response to, like, uh, okay, so whenever we learn about history, it doesn't look good for us.
What if we just got rid of history?
dan friesen
In the present, no less.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Also, I have some really bad news for George about what corporations can do, at least in America.
I'm not sure about Australian labor relationships, but there are so many things that you can do with your body that can totally get you fired here.
Like, if you have tattoos, you can be fired for that.
You can be fired for having piercings that your boss doesn't like.
You can be fired for having an unconventional hairstyle that the boss is uncomfortable with.
There's a bunch of situations where you can actually be fired because you smell bad.
We're so far away from living in a world where the choices that you make with your own body are protected from being used by employers to fire you or to not hire you.
But there's another irony.
Alex absolutely cannot advocate for better protection for employees.
That's essentially a violation of one of his big principles, the freedom of association, where employment is a voluntary agreement on both sides.
This is just incoherent as an ideology.
Like, employers obviously should be able to hire or not hire you based on whether you got a vaccine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the fundamental angle here is...
I don't think private corporations should be allowed to do what I don't want them to do.
But if anybody else tells them that they can't do anything, especially if it's something they've paid me to protect, then they're evil!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just self-contradictory in many ways.
It's very dumb.
So, you know, this is largely about promoting that sub stack.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's the sound side.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
You can follow his...
We've got to fight this tyranny there to stop it here.
Same thing with Los Angeles and California and New York.
These are globalist, occupied zones.
They are all our brothers and sisters, and we will break them out.
We will bring down the globalist COVID dictatorship.
Stay with us.
George Christensen joining us from Oscar.
I'm Alex Jones.
Infowars.com.
The tip of the spear.
dan friesen
I think I missed time that break, too.
We're off.
jordan holmes
We're off.
dan friesen
His timing is not good.
I also feel a little bit off to recording here.
Like, I feel like my...
I don't know how to do this right now.
jordan holmes
Man, everybody's...
We've taken a little bit of time away from the mics, and it's like...
dan friesen
A couple days.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
All of a sudden, I feel strange.
unidentified
We're so used to the schedule.
dan friesen
And that's why I can relate to Alex when he's trying to get to the break.
jordan holmes
It happens.
It happens.
You're not on your game.
You can't always be on your game.
Every time you see a late night show and they're like, we got a great show for you tonight.
No, you don't.
Sometimes you don't.
And that's fine.
dan friesen
And I don't know what Alex means that we have to jailbreak Australia.
jordan holmes
We gotta jailbreak Australia!
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
It is an island continent and we cannot allow that any longer.
We need to get some grappling hooks.
dan friesen
Okay, pull it in.
jordan holmes
Just reel it in.
dan friesen
I also can't stop thinking about that song, Thin Lizzy song, Tonight There's Gonna Be a Jailbreak.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because the lyric of that is, tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak somewhere in this town.
It's gonna be at the jail.
We know where it's gonna be.
jordan holmes
What, am I gonna snitch?
Am I gonna tell the cops where it's gonna be?
dan friesen
Can't have a jailbreak at the pizzeria?
jordan holmes
That's where it's going to start.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has seen some reports about the situation in Australia.
He wants to bring these up.
alex jones
Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
Our guests have agreed to stay with us for the rest of the hour, and that's good, because I have a lot of questions about what's happening in Australia, like a roundup of the Aborigines.
I've seen reports in the regional governments admitting, well, we're going to...
Fly by plane because the helicopters can't get there.
It's 800 miles away.
But we're going to go make sure they're all inoculated when none of them are even around civilization.
It's just wild and images of them being loaded in paddy wagons and driven away.
So this is really, really draconian stuff.
dan friesen
A bunch of nonsense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in an August 2021 article in the New York Times, a couple of really important points are raised about the vulnerability of the Aboriginal communities in Australia.
The Indigenous population only has an approximately 15% vaccination rate, and in New South Wales, quote, most of the area's 98 coronavirus cases are among Indigenous people.
There is a particularly serious issue here because among indigenous populations, there's often a higher prevalence of chronic health conditions, which would put people at a greater risk of severe cases and death if they got COVID.
The article includes this paragraph.
Quote, the Darawa Elders Group, an association of Aboriginal elders in Walgate, said in a statement, quote, many of our elders and others in Walgate experience health and social issues that make them vulnerable to contracting COVID-19.
The impact on our community could be devastating.
In their full statement, their first urgent request was for more trained nurses to administer vaccines.
Indigenous Australians aren't being rounded up, and if Alex were forced to cite a source on this, he would stammer and then he would just try and change the subject.
Yeah.
unidentified
There was an article in The Guardian, actually, from late November that included a comment from the Aboriginal Medical Services Alliance of the Northern Territory who said this was all nonsense.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
The Northern Territory's chief minister chimed in, quote hello to all the conspiracy theorists overseas watching this please get a life *laughs* Well, that's one way to do it.
dan friesen
This was in response to how, quote, From Binjari and Rockhole were being forcibly removed from their homes and taken to enforced quarantine in Howard Springs.
And people, including children, were being forcibly vaccinated.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
False claims were being made.
The Aboriginal Medical Service Alliance of Northern Territory and the Northern Territory's chief minister have chimed in and been like, go fuck yourself.
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's making it sound like it's fucking cops driving up to a campfire being like, show us over!
Show us over!
Come on now!
Oh, we're getting you, goddamn!
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, they'd have to do it in a plan.
jordan holmes
Wow, that's one way to do it.
dan friesen
Interestingly, though, also this past August, the Australian government announced that they would be paying approximately $280 million in reparations to survivors of the period between 1910 and 1970, where indigenous children were rounded up and taken from their homes.
From a Washington Post article about this announcement, quote, an official inquiry is estimated as many as one in three indigenous children were forcibly removed from their families nationwide and taken to schools.
unidentified
Wow!
jordan holmes
Just a bunch of psychos!
Just a bunch of fucking psychos!
dan friesen
So anyway, that's real, but what Alex is talking about is based on a bunch of non-real stuff.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So, in addition to promoting the substack, what Alex really wants here, because he's got somebody that is in an elected position, right?
So it's somebody who's kind of, you know, you can play this up.
And so what Alex really wants is for George to give, like, a message.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
First of all, he wants a message for the freedom lovers.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he also wants a message for the tyrants.
jordan holmes
Cut me a promo real quick.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
And he asks him a bunch of times, and here's one of them.
alex jones
He got somewhat censored and talked over when he was trying to lay out basic facts and information.
dan friesen
Real quick, Alex does play the clip of George trying to talk about how the COVID response is like to Germany.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And basically, he didn't get censored.
There were people like, boo!
People did not enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So basically, he got censored or talked over, which is such...
jordan holmes
How could someone?
dan friesen
Such victimhood.
jordan holmes
Disgusting.
alex jones
So I want him to have the floor here for this segment to really give us his message to the tyrants, but also his message to...
The patriots, who could be liberal, could be conservative, could be gay, could be straight, could be black, could be white, could be old, could be young, could be Asian.
It doesn't matter.
But I only care about the street life.
What is his message to the world?
Because millions of people are watching right now, and hopefully others will take the archive of this and share it to millions more.
Because the tyrants cannot stand this information coming out.
They cannot stand leaders like George Christensen standing up and saying, we need civil disobedience.
I haven't seen any other members of parliament have that much courage in a place where they are arresting and basically disappearing people to these quarantine camps.
They're trying to roll out this total takeover to set the precedent.
dan friesen
This show's gotten a little frenetic.
Alex is speeding up a little.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, at the end of that clip, it really interested me the way Alex is phrasing this.
I would love for him to try and explain in any kind of a coherent fashion how something happening in Australia could possibly serve as a precedent for U.S. laws.
We have entirely different constitutions and different organizational structures of government.
The idea is really, really stupid, but Alex says it all the time.
Like, it's an idea that's so dumb that it often goes in one of my ears and out the other.
I don't even think about it.
jordan holmes
You're not understanding that Australia is weakening our First Amendment protections in the same way that God is weakening.
dan friesen
I legitimately don't know what precedent could be set by Australia for U.S. law.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine somebody at the Supreme Court being like, well, one time in Australia?
dan friesen
Cool.
All right.
jordan holmes
All right.
Is that going to help us?
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
Well...
I guess we've reached an impasse.
We've got to follow precedent here.
Yeah, I suppose.
So Alex, one of the things that he's primarily focused on in this interview and that he really wants to nail down is about the idea of there being camps that people are going to be taken to.
jordan holmes
There's always fucking camps.
dan friesen
There are some camps.
alex jones
Tell us about the camps, because yes, everybody wants to know about those, and they're expanding them.
They've got regional leaders saying this is going to be permanent.
This is the new regime.
You're going to take shots on a routine basis.
I mean, don't talk to your neighbors.
I mean, this is like an episode of Red Dawn or something.
george christensen
It's very scary.
Very, very scary.
And a lot of people questioning why are so many of these facilities being built.
They told us at first it was only going to be for incoming arrivals if they have to be quarantined for seven days.
I mean, the question is, why the hell do they look like high-security prisons?
The second thing is we're seeing now that they're actually not being used for the purposes of incoming arrivals.
What they're being used for is to, in the cases of the Northern Territory, where a lot of Aboriginal people are, Round up anyone who tests positive and to put them in there.
Well, I've got to tell you, for me, it's going to be like, you know, over my dead body.
If I test positive and they want to come and get me, they're going to have to brutally rip me out of my own home.
And there's probably a lot of freedom-loving people in Australia that would be of the same view that we're not going to go willingly into some quarantine camp.
dan friesen
So there's two quarantine facilities in the Northern Territories.
There's the Center for National Resilience and the Alice Springs Quarantine Facility.
Australians who are returning to the country into the airport in Darwin, whether they're vaccinated or not, are required to go to one of these centers for 14 days.
They offer flexible payment plans, and there's some amenities.
Like, they get food.
jordan holmes
So they don't look exactly like prisons.
dan friesen
I bet you could probably find some pictures of, like, Sure.
jordan holmes
Well, there's a fence there.
dan friesen
You could probably find something that would look scary.
Probably, but you could also find pictures that don't look scary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and you've got people like this fucking dude winding up in a quarantine camp, and they're gonna try and escape.
dan friesen
Sure.
In May, Robin Dixon wrote an op-ed about her experience staying at the Center for National Resilience in the Washington Post, and the experience sounds nothing like what George is describing.
It sounds kind of just like...
Maybe a slightly annoying resort.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't want to go to any resort that I didn't have a choice to go to.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Even if it was a really nice place, I'd be like, I didn't want to be here right now.
dan friesen
From everything I can tell, these primarily exist to allow travel to and from Australia without risking people bringing in cases of COVID.
Unless George can demonstrate any of the stuff that he's saying, I'm left to assume that he's just kind of pulling an Alex and making shit up.
But I do think that there are some instances where people who can't quarantine on their own are...
They can go there as well.
So I don't think it's entirely for travel-based quarantine.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But the way that it's being discussed here, it does not match up with anything I can find anywhere else.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that style of old man beating his chest.
Like, hey, if they come to my house and try and steal me just because I had a COVID-positive test, I'll kill them.
Like, that's a thing that's not going to happen.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
If the Uruk-hai come to my home and try and kill me, Dan, I will fight to my very last breath.
dan friesen
But you know...
Notice, too, how that violent ideation is the exact same as Alex has had his whole career about FEMA camps.
It's almost like the fantasy of being able to fight people off who want to take you to a FEMA camp is a pleasant thing for someone like Alex.
And it seems like him and George are in the same pod in that sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, to a certain extent, it does feel like maybe there's just a type of person that is...
Criminally incapable of existing in a modern society and would prefer to return to a fictional, I fight for every bit of grain that I have, I guess.
Something like that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so George's interview is largely, like, these are some of the main points that get hit.
There's a lot of nonsense and just sort of...
Boring conversation.
Some conversation about the protests, the anti-lockdown, anti-mask protests, and what have you.
And one of the things that people really took issue with is some of the comments that he's made in the recent past about civil disobedience.
And I don't know if he said anything that rose to the level of like...
That sounds scary.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
On this episode.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I just think he sounds kind of like a shithead who's trying to get out of politics and into a right-wing grift.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That basically is what it sounds like.
jordan holmes
No, that's a smart move at this point in time.
dan friesen
I think it's easier.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Way, way.
Way easier.
dan friesen
But, Jordan, there's something we're not considering.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
When you get into the right-wing grift, like Alex, you're risking your life.
jordan holmes
Oh, what?
alex jones
Hour number three is coming up here, folks.
This is a total war.
I'm risking my life to fight these people because I know we're going to be enslaved and killed anyway, so I might as well fight.
We can beat these bastards.
In fact, things aren't going well for them.
But they're going to double down, so they're going to hurt those of us that are the leadership that don't back down.
That's okay.
I don't want them hurting children and innocent people, so I'm designed to go up against these people.
I just get pissed that I'm not eloquent enough or strong enough to work even more.
I'm like a horse.
I'll keep running until my heart blows.
Just please keep us in the fight, and please financially support us, because we are in this fight together.
We got great products you need.
dan friesen
Smooth.
Smooth, smooth, smooth.
jordan holmes
Oh, ah.
Like a Mountain Dew.
dan friesen
So Alex goes out to break, and he comes back to start the third hour.
I don't even know what to say about this.
this is just bizarre music Behavioral psychology is being used as a weapon against the people of planet Earth.
alex jones
But it is the populations of former wealthy, open Western societies that are under attack because our free nations, despite their problems, they're free, compared to the globalist plan, are not compatible with their system.
And people are going to see us being free.
And they're going to see free market capitalism working, and they're going to see the success, and they're not going to want to be part of Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates' new world order.
And that's why they are devaluing our currency right now.
That's why they're devaluing our morals.
That's why they're undermining us and trying to break our will.
I'll tell you a trick.
Instead of letting them break your will, take every challenge.
As if it's wind in your sails.
Enjoy the persecution and enjoy the pain.
And you will become stronger than you could ever imagine.
It doesn't mean you're perfect.
It doesn't mean you're a masochist.
It doesn't mean at certain levels you don't dislike it.
But by letting yourself know that it's pain you've got to go through to protect the children, it will actually become pleasure.
And once you have engaged in that alchemy, And once people have attacked you and lied about you and you forgive them as Christ said, it absolutely devastates them.
And they don't know what to do.
It heaps hot burning coals upon them as Christ said.
And you don't even want to do that to them.
But when you transcend them, when they no longer have the power over you, it's beautiful.
And I've been a very angry person.
I've hated the globalists.
And I've repented and I've worked on that.
And I have to tell you that in just the last few years, my stress level, despite all these attacks, has gone way down because I've learned to forgive my enemies.
It doesn't mean I don't prosecute them.
It doesn't mean that I don't go after them.
It doesn't mean that I don't attack them for what they're doing to stop them.
But I don't let them get me to hate them.
dan friesen
Ah, yes.
Alex is free of anger.
Wow!
unidentified
Wow!
jordan holmes
Oh, wow.
dan friesen
There's just one thought that I have throughout, like, listening to something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Something as bizarre as that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
First of all, this has no place on a news show.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
This is a psychodrama that he's having within himself.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
The second thing I think of is, when he's talking about, like, you have to experience persecution as pleasure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Or something like that, you know, it's joy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like if you believe that too much, you might want to try and experience everything as persecution.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because then you can translate that into...
Pleasure.
jordan holmes
Well, you see, people like pleasure, and so they seek out experiences that give them pleasure.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
If you enjoy quote-unquote persecution, and it becomes pleasurable, then perhaps you have an incentive to continue being a piece of shit.
dan friesen
Well, that would certainly draw in more hypothetical persecution.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
One thing I was thinking about is that...
If I was talking over that song, or if I started talking and that song was playing, I would be like, please stop that.
I gotta write this out.
This song puts pressure on you to deliver the inspirational speech.
dan friesen
See, conversely, if that song was playing and I was talking, I would say turn that fucking song off.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's what I'm saying!
dan friesen
Not because the stakes are too high.
The stakes are too high.
I'd be like, I look like an asshole.
jordan holmes
But that's what I'm saying!
dan friesen
I look like a try-hard asshole.
jordan holmes
You can pull it off, though, with some quality writing.
dan friesen
Well, then the real question I guess we're left with is, did Alex pull it off?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Disagree.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's not a masochist, though.
jordan holmes
No, sure, sure.
I mean, he did define masochism almost exactly, though, by...
dan friesen
Turning persecution and pain into pleasure?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, kind of.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And he said that's the thing he was.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And that you should be.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
But he's not a mascot.
dan friesen
And because if you do that, you no longer have stress.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
Yes!
And you'll no longer hate your enemies.
jordan holmes
You will never go on a five-minute jag about how Brian Stelter's nose makes you furious.
dan friesen
The only thing that's true that I heard there was that he has been an angry person.
jordan holmes
He has been an angry person.
I'll give him that.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
That was honest.
dan friesen
So, I appreciate this.
Alex does clarify that...
In this war that he's in, and we're all in, by extension, the win will not come by tearing off people's heads, which is good news.
jordan holmes
That is good news.
alex jones
We're not going to win this by pulling people's heads off.
We're going to win this by standing up against evil and being an example to others.
Quite frankly, in many cases, being Christ-like, letting them destroy us and crush us and slice us up and hurt us as men.
And women can step into that office as well.
But it's really men's jobs to fight evil.
Evil should be hiding under the rocks.
It should be scared to even come out at 3 a.m.
Instead, it's everywhere pissing and crapping on us and laughing and reveling in what it's doing because good people have stopped standing up against it.
Okay, look, most of the time I get in here and I cover like three stacks out of 20, but today I really need to at least hit on some of these other stacks because they're really important, and a lot of it's today's news.
Some of it's news I didn't get to from yesterday is really revealing.
dan friesen
Oh, what a shock you didn't get to the stories from yesterday.
Your behavior today would not lead me to believe that you're behind on the news.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Refuse.
Refuse.
You cannot tell me tomorrow's news today if you're reading yesterday's headlines.
dan friesen
That's not possible.
Well, but they're revealing.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that's fair.
dan friesen
We'll get to some of these headlines.
But first, Alex has to sing along with Born to be Wild.
jordan holmes
Well, yes!
alex jones
And nothing gonna make it happen.
Crank it up, baby.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
Unreal.
alex jones
Fire all your guns at once.
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
No!
alex jones
We have to stop caring what the globalists say.
We have to stop caring about being ridiculed and lied about.
unidentified
I love having thousands of articles lie about me.
alex jones
I love the criminals trying to indict me.
I love them coming after me.
Because I'm now making up for my children that I had chopped up and thrown in garbage cans.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I'm not proud of that.
I'm ashamed of it.
You know what?
I can just feel the chains that were wrapped around me that I was going to carry for eternity and taken away.
A little birdie now I can fly.
Oh, thank you, God.
dan friesen
What do you think about that, Joe Rogan?
Does this man sound well?
unidentified
You know, I get high on my show, so...
dan friesen
If that seemed like it was a non-sequitur, that's because it was.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I thought it was very bizarre that he starts singing along, gets really pumped, and then is like, I'm making up for killing my babies!
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, yeah!
I think this is evidence of why there should never be a media conglomerate, and all media should be your own boss, because fuck every news show if you can at least once a day go, crank it up, baby!
dan friesen
Crank it up, baby, is pretty good.
alex jones
Crank it up, baby.
Come on.
Come on.
jordan holmes
Crank it up, baby.
Get it out of here.
dan friesen
I worry when I hear things like what came after the crank it up, baby.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's a problem.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a problem.
dan friesen
That's where you should have a boss.
jordan holmes
That's why media conglomerates are important.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Don't get me wrong.
There are pros and cons.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that we keep getting a clearer and clearer picture of...
to be plagued by his past actions.
And how much his history with abortion seems to...
He describes it as chains on him.
Yeah.
In some way, this imagined persecution that he's experiencing, he's turning that into, like, this is the penance that I pay for that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's where he gets the joy from.
It's like, this is absolving me of the guilt that I had for those actions that I took younger in life.
And that's pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes
Man, I feel like if a really weirdo church had just taught him how to hit his back with a cat of nine tails when he was like eight, we would all have been saved so much trouble.
Like, if you just want to flagellate, fucking, it's been going around and on!
Sure.
Chop your back up.
I'm fine with that.
The Lord loves it or whatever.
Go for it.
Don't scream at me on the radio.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I mean, look.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I think that self-flagellation or, I don't know, like seeing a dominatrix or something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Would be healthier outlets than.
jordan holmes
Super healthy.
dan friesen
Creating a destructive political ideology.
Yeah.
Talking bullshit on air all the time about stories that aren't true.
jordan holmes
Not for the first time has it been pointed out that sex work is infinitely better for human beings than belief in God.
dan friesen
Or talk shows.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we get to these stories now that Alex has gotten his bizarre song out of the way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So here's the first one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Okay, let's hit it.
There's a lot of these, and so I'm just going to move quick through them.
Forbes had an article coming out saying, yes, the vaccines, the mRNA changes your DNA.
But it's good for you.
And there was a big backlash.
They went, hey, buddy, you're not supposed to say that.
Remember, until two years ago, articles everywhere, hey, we're going to change your DNA with mRNA.
You're going to live forever.
It's the keys to the universe.
It's so incredible.
And then we're like, hey, it changes your DNA.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So there was a Forbes headline that was, quote, yes, the vaccine changes your DNA a tiny bit.
That's a good thing.
Naturally, this got some backlash, so the author had the headline changed to add clarity to it, and it was updated to, quote, COVID vaccines don't alter your DNA.
They help choose cells to strengthen your immune response.
The author Steve Salzberg tried to explain his point, telling Reuters, quote, Some of your immune cells multiply in large numbers to fight off the infection.
Some of those cells stay around, which is what gives you immunity.
The technical point I was trying to explain was that those cells have slightly different DNA from all your other cells.
The changes in the DNA of those cells, which occur through a crazily complex process called VDJ recombination, occur before you're vaccinated or infected.
Anyway, the idea that the headline was changed has become a bit of an anti-vex meme, and that's about the depth of a story that Alex is capable of covering, so here we are.
That's the first headline.
jordan holmes
That's just one of those situations where just by virtue of knowing so fucking much, you just have these assumptions that when I'm explaining something to somebody...
They know these very base-level things.
So you're like, I can say, yes, it alters your DNA, because I know a million different ways to contextualize that.
dan friesen
And you're probably used to talking to people who have that kind of nuanced understanding of what you mean.
jordan holmes
If you didn't understand so many of my idioms, you would think I'm incomprehensible.
dan friesen
Or most of the time that I talk to anybody about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
And it's not a fault thing, but it is one of those, that is a thing that you need to be aware of going in.
If you're an expert, you have to be aware that you cannot communicate the way that you're used to communicating all the time.
You just can't do it.
dan friesen
Probably not.
But yeah, the headline as it exists now is clearer, certainly.
And I think the same point was trying to be made.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So here's the second headline, I think.
alex jones
So, oh, it doesn't just jack with your DNA.
It's a photon torpedo.
It's a 12-gauge double-odd buck right into it.
The studies we showed you Sunday and again yesterday say it causes the worst kind of double DNA severing.
Because it can cut one part of the spiral and it knows how to repair itself.
No repair.
The worst weapon you can have.
Of course it is.
Bill Gates wants you dead.
He has the will.
The earth is his, he believes.
unidentified
And he wants all the people he sees off of it.
alex jones
That's his spirit.
And you just sit there with this raving murderer leering over you.
People are lining their children up to take the shots that erase their immune system.
As they get sicker and sicker, Bill Gates will say, more shots, more shots.
And they know the Stockholm Syndrome.
The mothers will go and murder their children.
Liberal, liberal, liberal.
Because they want to be accepted by Satan at a subconscious level.
dan friesen
Is this a headline from yesterday?
Is this yesterday's news?
unidentified
I think this one is yesterday.
dan friesen
Okay.
So that wasn't really specific at all.
And I didn't know what to do with that.
But thankfully, Alex starts mentioning these studies that he was talking about.
And so we can sort of assess what's going on.
alex jones
This is a major study.
SARS-CoV-2 spike impairs DNA damage repair and inhibits VDJ recombination in vitro.
And it goes on that what is in the vaccine creates the same spike protein and does indeed destroy your cells.
Either turns them off, kills them, or creates cancer.
How liberal!
dan friesen
Very liberal.
The study that Alex is referencing doesn't say any of the things he's claiming.
And interestingly, a lot of the conspiracy theories surrounding this article or this study don't even say the things that he's saying.
About the double-severing DNA stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's just going off on his own.
dan friesen
I really don't know what's going on.
jordan holmes
All right.
Alex is Donner parting it across the West Coast.
dan friesen
I was a little bit worried because it didn't match up at all, but then he has a second study.
alex jones
Non-homogeneous DNA enjoining and alternative pathways to double-strand brake repair.
Nature.com.
Boy, it really does a nice thing.
dan friesen
So I guess this is where we get to the double-strand DNA breakage.
That's where this comes in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is entirely misreading the title of this study.
It's actually, quote, non-homologous DNA end-joining and alternative pathways to double-strand break repair.
Also, this is from an August 2017 issue of the journal The Nature Reviews Molecular Cell Biology.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This study has nothing to do with COVID or the COVID vaccine.
It doesn't even have to do with anything that causes double-strand breakage.
It's about pathways to such breakages being repaired.
In terms of putting forth an argument, nothing has been done here, and I'm just confused.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm not an uneducated man.
But if somebody's reading me something and I'm like, I don't understand the words in what you're saying, I'm not going to be like, well, then I'm afraid and I believe you.
That's not how I respond to that.
dan friesen
You aren't made to be an Alex's audience.
jordan holmes
No, exactly.
dan friesen
That's the name of the game.
jordan holmes
He just said a bunch of stuff I don't understand, so I'm going to leave you alone.
dan friesen
And it's fun, too, because you can really tell by the way he's reading these things.
jordan holmes
Oh, he has no idea what he's doing.
dan friesen
He's cold reading these titles and has no idea what any of it means.
But here's an easier headline.
alex jones
The tangled history of mRNA vaccines and why they can't do it for 20 years is to kill so many people.
But now just do it en masse.
And it goes on and on.
dan friesen
Yeah, it goes on and on.
jordan holmes
That's all you need to say!
dan friesen
Yep.
Alex is completely misrepresenting this article.
It's mostly about how the history of mRNA technology being used for vaccines has been fraught with trouble, mostly involving people not wanting to invest in it because it was seen as too expensive and the mRNA was too prone to degrading rapidly.
Thus, most investment went to other projects, and this is a very extensive...
Discussion about innovations that were made and different ways that the technology went from being mostly only something that was considered as viable for research purposes into being something that's more applicable as a medical thing.
The details he's adding are just made up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's got to be.
dan friesen
That's nuts.
It has nothing to do with any of that stuff.
That's absolutely nuts.
jordan holmes
Cool.
dan friesen
Pretty dumb.
jordan holmes
Boo!
I'm going to censor Alex the same way that Christensen was censored.
Boo!
dan friesen
Oh, such censorship.
So, this is really what Alex's show is more about, because the headlines were very weak, and there weren't many of them.
jordan holmes
No, not at all.
dan friesen
Not really in-depth coverage.
This is the show.
alex jones
People don't like eating a GMO tomato.
Don't tell them we're making them GMO.
Giving them cancer so the earth's ours.
I mean, just imagine these frickin' people, man.
I mean, you look at Gates, and you look at Fauci, and you're like...
I mean, they're just killing everybody.
And that's who they are.
That's Joseph Mengele on steroids, baby.
Since he was a little kid, he was part of eugenic societies.
His dad ran it.
His mommy ran it.
He's been on a mission to kill you.
And you know what?
If you don't stand up and say no, you deserve to die.
That's the thing.
If you don't stand up for the children, well then...
God, I guess, just sent Fauci and Gates to kill us.
Doesn't mean they're not...
Demons, nightcrawlers.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But at the same time, if you don't fight the demons, they just become your judgment, don't they?
dan friesen
I think Alex might have taken some turbo for us at some point, because he's getting weird.
jordan holmes
We're getting into twisted areas right now.
dan friesen
For sure.
You deserve to die if you don't fight Fauci and Gates.
jordan holmes
If you don't say no to a demon, then that demon is actually God's punishment for you not saying no to a demon.
See, once again, I don't like his God.
His God's a piece of shit.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I thought that we were done with headlines, but we aren't, it turns out.
There's some other important stuff going on.
alex jones
Mass killing under communist regimes.
Here is the big Wikipedia section, and it says it's under review and about to be deleted because it's racist to say Mao shouldn't have killed 80 million Chinese.
I'm not joking.
dan friesen
So there's a Wikipedia article on communist mass killings that was up for deletion.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Up for review for deletion.
It has nothing to do with racism, though.
It has to do with some folks on Wikipedia believing that the framing of all of these events as communist mass killings is not necessarily historically accurate, and it lacks a bit of the nuance that should be...
Oh, sure.
Again, Wikipedia, like, it doesn't have a board.
There's no one in charge of it.
It's not like there's a shadowy force here trying to whitewash communism.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
And it's really weird that Alex is pointing to this as something that is worth, like...
The pointing to is like, ooh, conspiracy here.
jordan holmes
You know, I don't know.
This actually does seem like a thing that would be huge in Alex's world, just because if it were to become accepted on Wikipedia to kind of add more nuance to did the communists murder everybody articles, then more people would be like, oh no, it wasn't communism, the economic system.
It was...
The governments of these places.
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
Sure, but Wikipedia is...
Anybody can edit it.
No, sure.
jordan holmes
I just meant why this would be such an important target for him.
Not the...
Obviously, there's no...
dan friesen
People can add that now if they want.
jordan holmes
Sure!
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Anybody can edit it.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
He's bored.
dan friesen
Anyway, there's a mass purge that's going on.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, never mind.
unidentified
I'm an idiot.
dan friesen
That's what this represents over at Wikipedia.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
alex jones
By the way, let me go back to one of the articles I was covering earlier.
Because this is a mass purge of a Wikipedia.
And the media then uses something on Wikipedia as if it's gospel.
So if something's called racist, it's then banned.
And the banks will use this.
dan friesen
Oh!
alex jones
You use the term cultural Marxism.
The ADL, who's our boss now, our ruler, our master, they say that's anti-Semitic.
Cultural Marxism?
I mean, Saul Alinsky was Jewish.
He did call for cultural Marxism, but it's the ideology that's bad.
You're the one making it about Jews.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
None of us made it about Jews.
dan friesen
What is happening?
jordan holmes
We didn't start with...
No.
dan friesen
How did this jump from Wikipedia to the ADL?
jordan holmes
I don't know!
I don't know what's happened.
I feel like we've really lost the thread here.
dan friesen
So in terms of Wikipedia, though, I think I know what's going on.
And that is that I think that because Alex uses Wikipedia as a source, he doesn't realize that other media outlets don't do that.
jordan holmes
That's what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Yeah, Wikipedia pages generally aren't even considered acceptable sources like for college papers.
But Alex uses them constantly.
So I'm guessing that he thinks that they're gospel to everyone else, which is weird.
Then I don't know how we jumped to the ADL, but somehow we did.
And it was pretty quick.
And look, I don't know if the Wikipedia page is the only thing that Alex has read on the idea of cultural Marxism, but it's definitely an idea that's only promoted by deeply anti-Semitic folks and white nationalists.
Either Alex is completely lying in order to sanitize anti-Semitism for his audience, or he doesn't have any grasp on the topic he's discussing.
And he should probably stop.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
That was really weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's no good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I don't appreciate...
And you're totally right.
It's because, like...
If you're a person who printed out a Wikipedia article to put on your desk so you could read it on the radio, then you assume that other media outlets are just like, well, Wikipedia's good enough.
dan friesen
Whenever he goes to an overhead shot, oftentimes there will just be Wikipedia articles in his stacks of important news.
jordan holmes
If you print out a Wikipedia article, you're the one who should be judged.
dan friesen
Yeah, and again, don't know what the jump to the ADL was.
Felt weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Feels weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it only gets weirder.
Oh, no.
alex jones
Can you imagine what it's like for all the nice, wonderful Jewish people out there, like Dr. Zelenko and others who I just love, who are great spirits, who then have this weird criminal group saying they represent them, going out attacking and bullying people, and then hiding behind Jews?
It's un-American, it's dangerous, and it's evil.
And it must be stopped.
And I don't say shut them down or arrest them.
I'm saying they must be stopped in silencing us.
They don't want us to really come together under God.
They don't want us coming together, and we're very close to that.
They want to bring us under communism, under AI, and the false unity.
dan friesen
So, okay, the ADL is hiding behind Jewish people in order to stop Alex and his friends from being able to come together under God.
This is...
Fucked up.
jordan holmes
As far as a way to attack Jewish people, I'm not sure if I can understand a more aggressive way to be like, I hate Jewish people than to say, see, Jewish people?
Look at them hiding behind Jewish people.
I gotta get through that wall of Jewish people before I can get to those Jewish people.
dan friesen
It's not a good look.
No.
What he's doing is kind of making the other side's point pretty clearly.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So now, I mean, like, okay, we've had this interview with the Weirdo Australian.
We've had Alex screaming over Born to be Wild.
He's gotten to the news, which is just a couple of headlines that don't make sense.
And then he's got another exciting guest.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
All right, I've been trying to get these guys on for a few months, and I'm really glad that Eric Tallman can come on the broadcast because I've gotten hundreds of questions on the street.
And just tons of emails and calls here to the office saying, tell us about satellite phones.
Well, this isn't something that just the military has anymore, and the cost has gone way down on them.
jordan holmes
Are we really doing this?
alex jones
They've got compact models, but I don't have them on to infomercial here.
They're already a sponsor.
I wanted to get them on.
So that we would have an informational video to link up on the site at InfowarsPhone.com so people can find out about satellites, phones, and why they're so important.
dan friesen
So what you need to understand, Jordan...
They're not doing an infomercial, but they are making a piece of video that's full of information that can be used for a commercial.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So it's kind of like an information commercial.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The only response I had at the end of that was just, chef's kiss.
Beautiful.
unidentified
This isn't an infomercial, but I will then describe an infomercial.
jordan holmes
Gorgeous.
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Now, this is hilarious.
I immediately was like, fuck this noise.
I don't even give a shit.
It's like the last half hour of the show is this infomercial.
jordan holmes
This is disqualifying.
dan friesen
But this is so funny.
alex jones
What are some of the basic reasons people should have a satellite phone?
And why should they get the phones at Infowars phone?
Because I know you're one of the biggest suppliers out there.
You supply a lot of the military.
You supply a lot of the Border Patrol.
I mean, you guys are one of the biggest sellers of phones.
jordan holmes
I think it's our experience.
dan friesen
This motherfucker's phone is cutting out.
unidentified
You have to have the best phone connection if you're a phone guy.
dan friesen
It's pretty funny.
It's really, really funny.
And it's so bad.
His connection is so terrible that Alex even has to call it out.
unidentified
No.
As soon as I pull it out, use it, I'm not going to drop a call.
jordan holmes
I'm going to have good clarity the whole time.
unidentified
I can talk to an engineer, a doctor, family member for hours if I need to.
alex jones
It's amazingly clear.
It's a lot clearer than your Skype.
I can tell you that.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So they just do an infomercial about Alex's InfoWars phone for the rest of the show.
This is dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't appreciate...
I mean, you know, it's another revenue stream.
It's yet another thing that we're infomercialing.
I assume that we're going to start picking up a lot more products and shit as we go along.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
I mean, if he can attract people...
Who are willing to be involved, maybe.
jordan holmes
I mean, if your Skype connection's that bad, your satellite phone has to be sold on Infowars.
That's kind of what we're looking at.
dan friesen
Yeah, but if you look at this episode, it's just people just being shitty and selling.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
You got this Australian dude coming on that seems largely about promoting this sub-stack, which is a revenue stream he's trying to create after getting out of politics.
You have Alex infomercialing with his fucking satellite phone guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's...
Ridiculous.
jordan holmes
No, the first clip that you played of the Australian, of Christensen, is he was talking for so long, my immediate note was, he's paying for this time.
Like, that was, like, the moment you're allowed to complete, like, three sentences in a row.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I feel like Alex has taken a cut for your time.
dan friesen
That's interesting, and obviously...
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm not claiming it as true.
I don't know, of course, but...
dan friesen
I think that it's equally possible that Alex thinks that this is a guest who has a reasonable amount of credibility, given that they're a publicly elected official.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And that, like, if I can get a great soundbite of them saying, like, this means war or something like that, that let them talk, because we might be able to use something to make a compilation or something.
I think that Alex would be far more interested in giving wide latitude to someone like him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Because honestly, who really cares what he says on the fucking show?
What is important is if we can make a bunch of promos for this that play forever, that's millions, you know?
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
I think it's probably more likely a situation where they both have interest in him talking more.
Him for the ability to promote himself and Alex for the ability to possibly use him later.
jordan holmes
Yeah, two parasitic amoebas fucking each other.
unidentified
Yup.
dan friesen
So, jumping back into the present day was slightly disappointing.
And I think one of the big reasons is because I just want to talk about Reset Wars.
I don't even fully know what it is.
jordan holmes
That's why.
dan friesen
But I'm fascinated by the idea that Alex thinks it's the most important work he's ever done.
jordan holmes
I know.
I can't.
dan friesen
I can't.
Anyway, maybe our next episode will be more about Reset Wars and not about Alex being his normal...
Incompetent self.
jordan holmes
Here's what worries me.
I feel like Reset Wars Part 2 is going to be named Attack of the Clones simply because it's going to be exactly like Reset Wars Part 1. No.
dan friesen
I had to really almost physically stop myself from titling that episode The Phantom Menace.
I was so close.
I was like, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
Can't do it.
dan friesen
But anyway, we'll be back on Friday, but until then...
We have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at GoToBetJordan.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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