Dec. 2, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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| Knowledgefight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| I have great respect for knowledge fight. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
|
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
|
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm Mr. I'm Colin. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
|
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today is a little bit iffy, kind of. | ||
| I am not proud of this. | ||
| But I decided to order Papa John's the other day. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| I was curious. | ||
| I hadn't had it in maybe a decade. | ||
| Probably haven't had Papa John's. | ||
| You have those memories of the garlic sauce? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I have the N-word memories, but not the garlic sauce. | ||
| I don't like the man. | ||
| Certainly don't like the man, but it was the pizza that would be around in shitty places. | ||
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Oh, totally. | |
| Youth Group Pizza. | ||
| Youth Group Pizza 100. | ||
| And the garlic sauce, it just sticks out in your mind. | ||
| You love it. | ||
| Nothing lived up. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| The pizza was terrible. | ||
| No, I mean... | ||
| The crust was okay. | ||
| The garlic sauce was not as good as everyone else. | ||
| The garlic butter. | ||
| When I was growing up, the Pizza Hut buffet was the height of dining. | ||
| That's the best. | ||
| Yeah, it's so good. | ||
| When Pizza Hut got rid of the buffet, it's why? | ||
| What's the point? | ||
| Same with the KFC had a buffet. | ||
| KFC's buffet was where my grandma was every Friday. | ||
| That was their tradition. | ||
| When Pizza Hut didn't have the buffet or anything, a little bit later, we had CeCe's Pizza. | ||
| Oh yeah, I remember CeCe's Pizza. | ||
| And that was where we would go. | ||
| That was the worst pizza. | ||
| Smoke a big blunt. | ||
| See how many pizzas and cinnamon rolls we could eat. | ||
| Yeah, that's fun. | ||
| The Pizza Hut buffet, because it's gone in your memory, you're kind of like, that was pretty great, remember? | ||
| Cece's Pizza? | ||
| Garbage. | ||
| While you were there, when you were old, when you were a kid, garbage. | ||
| You think that because it's still accessible. | ||
| You could actually go revisit it. | ||
| But I guess you could order a Pizza Hut pizza and probably... | ||
| I remember that being kind of gross. | ||
| Oh, that's so gross. | ||
| Anyway, Papa John's. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| Trying new things. | ||
| My bright spot is kind of reaffirming that, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, what about you? | ||
| What's up? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is... | ||
| I don't know if you've heard me talk about this before, but there was a live-action Cowboy Bebop. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so it came out, and I've watched all of it. | ||
| It is a bright spot, because Jon Cho as Spike is incredible. | ||
| Everything else is kind of so-so. | ||
| Yoko Kanno? | ||
| Up to another level! | ||
| I like that John Cho quite a bit. | ||
| Oh, he's great. | ||
| To think he started as the MILF guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah! | ||
| No, in American Pie. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| That's right! | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| To think he started there, and then you went to Harold and Kumar, and then he's a really good actor. | ||
| He's great, yeah. | ||
| He's even good in that flash-forward show. | ||
| That was a disaster. | ||
|
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But... | |
| But the problem with it, and the reason that the whole show is garbage, is because they did my man Vicious and Julia dirty. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| They suck in this show. | ||
| Those are characters? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| In the original show, you meet Julia only at the very end, and she's awesome. | ||
| The first time you meet her, because she's the like... | ||
| Long lost love interest, the one that got away in a horrible death incident kind of situation. | ||
| And then she shows up riding a car, getting chased by bad guys, and then firing back, and then Faye jumps in, and they're a badass Thelma and Louise instantly. | ||
| You love Julia. | ||
| In this show, she's like, Oh, save me! | ||
| And then Vicious. | ||
| Vicious is the shark from Jaws. | ||
| You only see him when someone's about to get their head cut off. | ||
| His name's Vicious. | ||
| His name's Vicious, right? | ||
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In this show, he's like, I'm gonna help you, Julia. | |
| It's awful. | ||
| It's awful! | ||
| They ruined it. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| They ruined it, but otherwise the show's great. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I feel like I'm not going to watch it based on... | ||
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Don't watch it. | |
| It's garbage. | ||
|
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Alright. | |
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode from the past to discuss. | ||
| This is an episode of June 30th and July 1st, 2003. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| This is a monumental episode, I must say. | ||
| Because a wrench gets thrown into the gears, as it were, of some things that we've been tracking in the past. | ||
| We may have been... | ||
| A little wrong about some things. | ||
| And we will find out about that here today. | ||
| But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| So first, Jenny Bento. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Jenny! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Nessie, the disciple of Lady Selene. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Nessie! | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| Next, congratulations, Alex and Trevor, on your engagement. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| This is Jess! | ||
| Exclamation point. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Thanks, Jess! | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Mr. Toad loves double-layered carrot cake. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Mr. Toad! | ||
| I'm really worried that sometimes, like, names like that, that I've, like, I've triggered an assassin or something. | ||
| Like, that's a code word. | ||
| There's a sleeper agent somewhere. | ||
| Right, you have to read the first letter of each of the names in order to get the actual message. | ||
| I'm very worried sometimes when people send me very cryptic names. | ||
| We've got a technocrat to say hello to, so Sludge Factory, hello and thank you. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate, that's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| We've got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimp so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare Infowar on you. | ||
| So, we jump in here. | ||
| End of the month, June, the 30th. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The day is the 30th. | ||
| That's 6-30. | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| 03. 03. Gotcha. | ||
| Three years after Y2K. | ||
| We start at the beginning of the episode here, and Alex announces a guest that he's going to have, which is really bizarre. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Coming up in about 30 minutes, Mike Hansen, who's done camera work for me and worked on my TV show here in Austin, is going to be joining me. | ||
| He runs a fireworks stand trying to raise money for his run for political office here in Austin. | ||
| This time is a... | ||
| County constable. | ||
| He's running for constable. | ||
| Constable? | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Is that a thing you can be still? | ||
| It is, yeah. | ||
| You, like, deliver summonses and stuff like that. | ||
| I think you can do traffic stops. | ||
| If you're a constable. | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| I think you can give people tickets, in Texas at least. | ||
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All right. | |
| I mean, can you also work for Scotland Yard? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| So Alex's cameraman, Mike Hansen, he's the guy who went along with Alex and John Ronson to Bohemian Grove. | ||
| Alex is a longtime buddy and noted weirdo. | ||
| Apparently, he is running a giant firework stand in order to fund his run for constable. | ||
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Right. | |
| And apparently he also has a little bit of a history of failing to run for offices in the past. | ||
| He seems to fancy himself a bit of a political... | ||
| Also ran. | ||
| Well, I think what's strange about that is that despite constable being a thoroughly British word, I don't think there's a more American thing you can do than run a firework stand running to become a constable. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's the most American... | ||
| That's the Declaration of Independence! | ||
| It's not their firework stand. | ||
| It's someone else's, I think. | ||
| Quite honestly, he might just have a job at this firework stand. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So the story that Mike is going to come on and tell is that he heard some noises in the night because he also apparently sleeps at the firework stand. | ||
| Not sure. | ||
| He heard some noises in the night and he thought it was like an animal or something. | ||
| So he grabbed his gun. | ||
| And ran out in his underwear and found people robbing the place. | ||
| And so he held two of the three of them at gunpoint. | ||
| And then got the police to come and they arrested him. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And so they're thrilled because this is a good guy with a gun. | ||
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Oh, totally. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| This is a man who deserves to be constable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it might be spawn con for his run for constable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a boring interview, and my cancer just tells the story, and guess what? | ||
| He comes back like two days later and tells the same story. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's a good story. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's a good story. | ||
| So we got some news out of the UK here from an article in an outlet called The Scotsman. | ||
| They've appointed Hanson as constable. | ||
| I wish. | ||
| Interesting Scotsman story about paganism exploding. | ||
| In the United Kingdom, and there's a photograph we've had to blur, which you can link through to the original Scotsman article, with a giant satanic orgy going on, basically. | ||
| They're all dancing around naked, and it's becoming the fashionable thing, and the young people are all getting involved, and they burn effigies and carry out these druid rituals. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And the climate's all fun, and it's no big deal. | ||
| And they admit Harry Potter has helped promote this, and now it's the fastest-growing religion in the United Kingdom. | ||
| But they're also having a problem with people's dogs, cats, and horses. | ||
| Wait. | ||
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Wait. | |
| Sure. | ||
| I failed to find evidence of this. | ||
| Also, I think the fastest growing religion at this point is definitely ESL. | ||
| Yeah, either that or, well, in the UK, yes. | ||
| In the UK, it's probably Harry Potterism. | ||
| I just want to say, and I want to get this out there, okay? | ||
| Dancing around naked is a long way from an orgy. | ||
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True. | |
| Okay? | ||
| Now it's not as far away from an orgy as dancing around with your clothes on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it is still farther away than an orgy. | ||
| You know, it takes a while to get to an orgy. | ||
| There are a couple steps that are still required after this point. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Alex doesn't deal with that and whatever. | ||
| So apparently there's a lot of animals that are going missing. | ||
| I don't have a citation on any of this. | ||
| I think it's just sort of satanic panic adjacent nonsense. | ||
| Sounds like it. | ||
| So Alex has a commercial that he plays on this show that I found a little out of place. | ||
| I'll see if you can tell why. | ||
| I'm Patrick T. Parker for Barclay Financial. | ||
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Right now we're recommending the purchase of euro currency call options. | |
| The budget and trade deficits are going through the roof. | ||
| The dollar is dropping worldwide. | ||
| Could the euro be poised to move higher? | ||
| We think so. | ||
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For a free special market report on the euro currency, call Barclay Financial right now. | |
| Call 800-348-4100. | ||
| That's 800-348-4100. | ||
| What? | ||
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What? | |
| Uh, invest in the euro, says the most nationalist man there's ever been. | ||
| Invest in the euro, guy who thinks the EU is evil. | ||
| Yeah, and also, that's not, like, a call option means you think it's gonna go, you know, that you could be shorting it, right? | ||
| That would be ideologically consistent. | ||
| You'd be like, uh, the anti-Soros, shorting the globalists, you know? | ||
| That's not what they're recommending, though. | ||
| They're saying the euro's poised to rise. | ||
| Yeah, I thought that was very, very strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I heard that, and I'm like, you see, have, like, herb companies that are trying to save the Christian remnant in America. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| You have the weird thing, or the weird box, or whatever the fuck that guy is. | ||
| Wow, it's a great box. | ||
| The freak box. | ||
| You got the... | ||
| Now you're selling euros? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| I can't imagine somebody hearing a commercial from a financial group about buying or selling stock and thinking, well, obviously they want me to make money. | ||
| Yeah, I better call and get more info. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| These people are really interested in strangers making money. | ||
| They've got my best interests in mind. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| So, Alex gets this call from a guy. | ||
| They're discussing... | ||
| This is in the context of the night before the caller and Alex, I believe, both of them, had seen a documentary about, like, ancient Greece. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, Sparta is on the mind. | ||
| And this is where we jump in with this call. | ||
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On all of our military vehicles, going back to Gulf War I and even prior, we now have, like, a Chevron. | |
| And this is something I've noticed on the shields of all Greeks. | ||
| And in Greek, that's the letter L. And I'm really concerned as to why we dropped the star. | ||
| What the show didn't tell you was that it was a homosexual death cult that held slaves. | ||
| And they said this is the heart of Western civilization. | ||
| This is what our Marines are modeled after. | ||
| Now, the one good thing that the Spartans did say was that There wasn't a question of fighting and standing up for what they thought was right. | ||
| And I've stated that. | ||
| There's not a question of fighting the New World Order. | ||
| If you love your family, there isn't even a question. | ||
| Now, that was the only good point of the film, but I found it really disturbing to see them really covering up what the Spartans really were. | ||
| Oh, a cover-up. | ||
| They've been trying to cover up that homosexual death cult for years. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So the caller's making an interesting association between the military and the Greek letter lambda, but I think this caller is a little simplistic, about just like, ah, it's from the shield or whatever. | ||
| If you look into it, you'll find a bunch of fraternities and sororities that are military in nature that use the letter lambda in their name, and even when it's not the first letter, like in the case of Kappa Lambda Chi, they still refer to themselves as lambda men. | ||
| The first women's military sorority is Lambda Beta Alpha, and they even have a side organization for family members and ROTC cadets called the Orchids of Lambda. | ||
| The letter Lambda has been adopted by militaries throughout Western history, largely because it was the symbol that was on the shield of the Spartans, not of all Greeks. | ||
| The other city-states had different letters or different symbols, and the Spartans had this because it was in honor of their capital city, Lacedamian. | ||
| Due to the story of the Battle of Thermopylae and the 300 Spartans who held back the Persian army and Xerxes, they've become the image of efficient and successful military forces. | ||
| There's a lot of aspects to this story where the details are a bit fudged, but I'm not here to take away any of the achievements of Leonidas. | ||
| Like, let him have it. | ||
| Either way. | ||
| The letter Lambda... | ||
| Yeah, you don't want to get sued. | ||
| Right. | ||
| His estate is very powerful. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And that's what the L is for on the shield. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The letter Lambda has had a particular significance ever since, like, throughout Western history. | ||
| And our military uses the letter to signify which company vehicles belong to, depending on the direction that the L or the Lambda is facing. | ||
| Oh, that's fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I think Alex might have a slightly elementary understanding of Spartan culture, but if his problems with them are that they were a homosexual death cult who had slaves, he probably wouldn't like Athens or any Greek city-state much more. | |
| Yeah, that was all. | ||
| The great hero Achilles only agrees to reenter the Trojan War after Hector kills his lover Patroclus, and they were Myrmidians. | ||
| In the Theban army, there were 150 gay male couples who formed the Sacred Band of Thebes, and the Theban army actually defeated Sparta in the battles of Tegera and Lucetra. | ||
| And in the process, they actually unseated Sparta as the dominant force in Greece. | ||
| There were many aspects of homosexual relationships in ancient Greece, and the fact that Spartans engaged in some homosexuality isn't unique to them at all. | ||
| As for them being a death cult, I'm not sure what Alex means by that, so I don't know how to respond. | ||
| They were a culture that prioritized military strength, but I don't know if that makes them a death cult. | ||
| And as for the slavery thing, Sparta definitely wasn't the only city-state doing that shit. | ||
| They pretty much all did, including Athens. | ||
| I think that Alex's view of history in this case in particular is just shaped by pop culture things he's seen, like movies or TV shows, because what he's saying is just dumb. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| It does not track. | ||
| It even makes very less sense considering, you know, like... | ||
| Those Greek city-states. | ||
| They weren't like Greece. | ||
| They didn't get along very well. | ||
| Yeah, there was periods of tension. | ||
| Anyway, Alex moves on from waxing philosophical about Greek history. | ||
| And, look, right now, in 2021, we know what's going on. | ||
| Forced vaccines. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Everyone's getting forced to have vaccines. | ||
| Yeah, the Greeks knew it was going to happen, too. | ||
| Here's 2003. | ||
| Bush is creating a new $6 billion fund for forced inoculation for dozens of vaccines. | ||
| Okay, so we're just doing this over and over and over again. | ||
| It's always the same. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| 20 years. | ||
| 20 years. | ||
| This is your life for Alex would be just the same two people being like, this is the same clip in 2003 that you've got in 2005. | ||
| Oh, look at you being scared of the same thing in a completely different context. | ||
| It never really actually comes to pass. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| His life flashes before his life, his eyes before he dies, and it's just the same clip. | ||
| No, it's just a boy yelling wolf. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's metaphorically that. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, Alex gets another call. | ||
| He takes a good bit of calls on this show, which is fun, except for the actual callers, because they suck. | ||
| Particularly this guy, who's a bit homophobic. | ||
| Go ahead, Andrew. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Hi, Alex. | |
| How are you doing? | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
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I just want to tell you what's going on up here. | |
| I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio. | ||
| And every day in the newspaper, we've got this rag newspaper called the Cincinnati Enquirer. | ||
| They should just change it to the Daily Hell on Earth Report. | ||
| It's every day. | ||
| Supreme Court upholds gay sex. | ||
| Taxes raising. | ||
| You turn in the back pages. | ||
| It has a story about a couple of homosexuals in San Francisco raising two little boys and talking about how many homosexual couples are raising children now. | ||
| And by the way, kids taken from other families, CPS grabs them for this industry. | ||
| That's admitted fact. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I knew that right away when I saw your article. | ||
| Those are children. | ||
| They took from good. | ||
| From good, solid families and gave to these homosexuals. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| So, yeah, I think I've made note in a previous episode that, like, for a long time, Alex has had this bizarre theory about there being an industry run by the homosexuals to take straight people's children by way of CPS. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is gross, and you see it's a consistent, long-standing thing of his. | ||
| This caller is... | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I mean, the craziest part of that is, you know, you remember 2003 and that kind of homophobia was commonplace, you know? | ||
| And it wasn't even just tacitly permitted. | ||
| You know, Obama famously is like, I'm evolving on gay marriage. | ||
| You know, like that kind of thing. | ||
| It was so much different just 18 years ago. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I think, yeah, I think that there's a difference between... | ||
| Well, yes. | ||
| Latent homophobia, or even active homophobia that maybe people didn't examine well, and political. | ||
| Driven homophobia. | ||
| And I think that you see a good deal of the latter here on Alex's show. | ||
| So this caller sucks. | ||
| And Alex gets another caller, which is, this is real interesting. | ||
| There's another movie that came out in 2003. | ||
| So many movies. | ||
| Oh yeah, and this one is troubling. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Yeah, I said, Jeff in Colorado, and I said, no, we're going to Bob in New York. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Okay. | ||
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A couple things. | |
| I just saw a preview for a movie coming out called The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. | ||
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It's like some big budget Sean Connery thing coming up. | |
| Yeah, it's a comic book. | ||
| What's amazing about it is they finally ran the long enough clip where you got introduced to who these League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are. | ||
| And they're devil worshippers. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| What just happened? | ||
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The Invisible Man went insane. | |
| That was one of them. | ||
| Captain Nemo. | ||
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He was insane. | |
| Dr. Jekyll. | ||
| You know, it's like, what, these are new superheroes that are going to save the world? | ||
| Yeah, the bad guys, they're shifting the paradigm now where the bad guys are the good guys. | ||
| What? | ||
| Just now? | ||
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Wait. | |
| You pointed out that it was a comic book, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic book began its run in 1999. | ||
| Yeah, right! | ||
| And the problem with the interpretation that's being given is that the characters in the movie aren't all villains. | ||
| For one, the character played by Sean Connery, Alan Quartermain, is not a villain in the novels that he's featured in, unless you look back through a very sort of evolved prism of colonialist... | ||
| Sure, yeah! | ||
| I mean, in a certain sense, any privateer is a bad guy. | ||
| But that might not have been the intention of his character. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| He's more just like an outsider type, like a big game hunter and adventurer. | ||
| Many people have actually noted that he's one of the foundational influences on the character of Indiana Jones, who's definitely not meant to be a villain, although does some sketchy shit. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Captain Nemo also isn't a villain, unless you think that people of non-European heritage are automatically evil. | ||
| Emma Peel was a member of the Avengers, who were crime fighters. | ||
| That was kind of her deal. | ||
| The Invisible Man wasn't a great dude, and Mr. Hyde certainly got up to no good. | ||
| But the idea that these were all villains is nonsense. | ||
| They were just literary figures from a period of time, and they were all extraordinary, and they banded together to fight bad guys. | ||
| Yeah, it was kind of their whole thing. | ||
| The movie itself is a bit of a sloppy recreation, with the inclusion of Tom Sawyer as a Secret Service agent. | ||
| Dorian Gray is brought in as a villain. | ||
| The real grand villain is Moriarty, who is the arch nemesis of Sherlock Holmes. | ||
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Right. | |
| The bad guy is the big bad guy for Sherlock Holmes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This isn't a movie about making the villains into heroes. | ||
| It's just a really flawed interpretation of this trailer that the caller saw. | ||
| But man, I'm so excited about Alex thinking they're devil worshippers, and I want to hear the review. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I want to hear that review. | ||
| That's so funny that he's the inspiration for Indiana Jones, because you have that same thing now where, like... | ||
| You look back on it belongs in a museum, and you're like, yeah, it belongs in a museum. | ||
| And then as you evolve 20 years later, you're like, no, nothing belongs in a museum. | ||
| It should be repatriated. | ||
| It should be everything in a museum was stolen. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And another thing about that, too, is that Sean Connery plays Alan Quatermain, who's an inspiration for Indiana Jones, and he plays Indiana Jones' dad in the Indiana Jones movies. | ||
| Oh, that is interesting. | ||
| Ah, it's all coming together. | ||
| That's why he turned down all those big roles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that guy. | ||
| A lot of money left on the table. | ||
| A lot of money. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex has another guest here, and this was troubling to me. | ||
| Certainly more troubling than Mike and his fireworks stand. | ||
| I mean, this is out of control. | ||
| Let's go to our guest, and we'll go to more news and your calls. | ||
| His name is Astert Gerstacker. | ||
| He's an engineer, lives in Austin. | ||
| He has a son named Alex, and his wife said, you need to move back with me to Ohio. | ||
| According to him, I heard him on local radio Thursday or else. | ||
| And then suddenly, well, he'll tell you the story. | ||
| And then it gets even worse to his neighbors that wouldn't bear false witness against him in jail or in court. | ||
| And so the CPS came after them. | ||
| The mother got so freaked out, as next to her neighbor, she had a stroke and can't walk. | ||
| CPS forced drug testing of them. | ||
| No drugs were found. | ||
| They're still attacking them savagely. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| I'm not going to cover this too much because this is actually the story of a really nasty divorce. | ||
| From the information I can gather, it's a situation where there was this divorce going on, and as a part of that, there was a pretty messy custody dispute. | ||
| I don't want to try and delve into this, partially because in cases of domestic issues like this, it's really difficult to get a full sense of exactly what's going on from the outside. | ||
| That having been said, I can find no evidence of his neighbors getting into trouble or having their children taken away because they wouldn't snitch on him. | ||
| I did find some interesting stuff in trying to learn more about this case, though. | ||
| The first thing that I found was that Stuart had a blog up trying to get his child back, titled thekidnappedson.blogspot.com. | ||
| I don't know what was up on that site, because the earliest snapshot in the Wayback Machine is from when he had already changed the title of the blog to Help Me Reconcile. | ||
| There's only one post on there from April 20th, 2015 that starts, I would guess that reconciling the matter privately wouldn't involve going on Alex's show to push a grand conspiracy about your divorce that Alex can use to fuel his own conspiracy theories about how the Child Protective Service is trying to steal people's children to give them to homosexual couples. | ||
| On a mostly unrelated note, I was able to find a transcript of a public hearing being held by the Travis County Commissioner's Court in July 2007. | ||
| The main piece of business was about an easement on a lot near Westlake Highlands. | ||
| After that, there was an opportunity for open question. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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Nope, nope, you're already, sir, sir, you're out of here. | |
| Get out of here. | ||
| Tough start. | ||
| Sir, get out of here. | ||
| Quote, I come in peace and humbly invoke the blessings of Almighty God. | ||
| I've come to deliver a message of peace and new hope. | ||
| I forgive you, I love you, and I want you to be happy. | ||
| You still have to repent your sins and make restitution from what you've stolen from me and others in the community, and I'm going to continue to come down and exposing the truth. | ||
| Your continued presence is an abomination against this land. | ||
| We all know that Margaret Gomez stole her seat from Mike Hansen. | ||
| I was there on election night when the computers were repeatedly crashed and programmed in new vote tallies. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Sounds like 2020. | ||
| That sounds familiar. | ||
| What sad, sorry people you are to allow these abuses to continue. | ||
| So I guess, at this point, Mike Hansen had moved on from losing the election for Constable in 2003 to losing an election for the County Commissioner's Board in 2007. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which is unsurprising. | ||
| And maybe progress? | ||
| I do appreciate I Come in Peace being the opening line for a few sentences later to wind up with, I think you're an abomination. | ||
| That might be a little bit less peaceful. | ||
| Stewart goes on to say, quote, your actions are an abomination in the eyes of God and man. | ||
| You have become onerous to the people. | ||
| Because of your continued abuses, I now declare a state of emergency caused by the breakdown of lawful power in Travis County. | ||
| This emergency can only properly be rectified by the people of Texas acting independently in our sovereign capacity. | ||
| So Stuart declared a state of emergency in Travis County back in 2007, and I'm surprised that didn't make the news. | ||
| Did he ever? | ||
| Like undeclared? | ||
| Did he ever take the state of emergency? | ||
| I think it's still active. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But look, I mean, Stewart isn't the kind of guy who comes in with problems without solutions. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Quote, to correct this intolerable situation, I'm taking this opportunity to announce the new independent state gathering. | ||
| Exactly one year from today, on the eve of July 4th, 2008, we the people are going to peacefully surround the Texas Capitol building and our Travis County courthouse complex, and we're going to camp out and have a huge party. | ||
| It will be large, and it will be nothing like you've ever seen, and it will not end until all of you have gone away. | ||
| Then we the people will constitute a new republic. | ||
| Together, we the people will peacefully shake off these tyrants and give the world an Independence Day that will not ever be forgotten. | ||
| It's so awesome, too, because in the transcript, you see the board, commissioner board response, and it was like, are we invited to this party? | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| That is a good response. | ||
| So anyway, this guy's a bit unwell, and I'm not going to take seriously anything he has to say in this interview with Alex, and I think it's best we just move along from him and not... | ||
| No, that's a lot of hurt. | ||
| That's a lot of hurt man that I... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you can look at that county commissioner transcript and... | ||
| That pippy response. | ||
| You can get a good sense of the picture. | ||
| You can see this blog that he had where he was trying to say that his wife kidnapped his son and then... | ||
| Post begging for reconciliation and apologizing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not worth it. | ||
| I don't want to do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we'll move on to Alex taking more calls. | ||
| And we actually get an update from a caller who called in a couple episodes back. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| Grant, go ahead. | ||
| You're on the air, sir. | ||
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Yeah, good afternoon. | |
| The last time I called you guys, I told you that they confiscated my tiger cub, Siberian tiger. | ||
| The next time in court after that, suddenly the doors were locked. | ||
| They were locking the doors. | ||
| So I think this thing is going to catch up with them pretty quick here. | ||
| And all the court dates or the decisions the judges are making are on or before a full moon or a new moon. | ||
| And so they're doing witchcraft, definitely. | ||
| And the first people that did threaten me were from Hollywood. | ||
| Okay, now I'm really confused, sir. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little confusing. | ||
| This is the guy who had his tigers taken away. | ||
| They are doing witchcraft. | ||
| Yep, because of the moon. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| If it's happening on a full moon or a new moon. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I mean, you would look at this and Alex would probably want to be like, alright, look, I don't know what you're thinking here. | ||
| The new moon means that they're doing witchcraft. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he yells about how the release of Harry Potter on the solstice means something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he has no leg to stand on here. | ||
| This is a step too far. | ||
| The new moon? | ||
| It's not mentioned once in Harry Potter. | ||
| Anyway, this guy, witchcraft, is being involved in taking away his tigers. | ||
| I don't think that a judge also needs witchcraft. | ||
| True. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's really great, though, being able to go back and listen to these episodes and see stories developing with callers. | ||
| Yeah, that is nice. | ||
| Specific callers call in and give updates. | ||
| Yeah, we don't get the serialized callers anymore in the modern day. | ||
| Well, you got Carlos is a dude who calls in all the time, but it's not really... | ||
| There's no story to it. | ||
| He's just mad about various geopolitical things. | ||
| This is much more fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tiger Codes, witchcraft. | ||
| This is a little bit like, where are they now every few weeks? | ||
| Yeah, so the witchcraft, I think, maybe gets Alex into the sort of mood where he wants to talk about devil stuff. | ||
| And this is, I don't know what he's talking about here. | ||
| I've probably seen, let me be conservative, 100 reports. | ||
| It's over 100 in the last two months. | ||
| We've posted hundreds on Infowars.com, on PrisonPlanet.com. | ||
| Of them digging up dead bodies of children and women in Portugal. | ||
| Digging up dead bodies of women and children in France, in Burgundy, and in other areas, in Toulouse. | ||
| Digging up dead bodies in England. | ||
| Finding dead kids in England. | ||
| And in other areas. | ||
| I mean, just every European country, they find the dead kids and they've had their hearts cut out. | ||
| They find the skeletons of these women by the hundreds. | ||
| And in France, this all started unraveling two years ago. | ||
| It was reported in the BBC, London Guardian, Le Figaro, French News. | ||
| A woman escaped who weighed like 85 pounds out of a castle. | ||
| And she ran to the police station. | ||
| They wouldn't help her. | ||
| Started pursuing her. | ||
| She got the state police. | ||
| They came in, found some dead women, found another woman that weighed even less than her in a cage. | ||
| They said satanic rituals were done on us. | ||
| They've now busted the mayors and police chiefs and judges. | ||
| All of them? | ||
| And now it's gone all the way up to the conservatives running France. | ||
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What? | |
| And now the French Secret Service has gotten involved and they're shutting down the stories. | ||
| Witnesses are dying. | ||
| I mean, you talk about a real bloody soap opera. | ||
| I read this stuff every week. | ||
| And this isn't rumors, folks. | ||
| They're finding the dead bodies. | ||
| I guess they covered up this story really well. | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| I feel like there's no way I would not have known about the great swath of women without hearts being dug up across Europe. | ||
| And it all going back to the conservative leadership in France. | ||
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Everybody getting taken down. | |
| Constables, left and right. | ||
| It seems... | ||
| I feel like we would know. | ||
| It seems like if this were something that was a big deal or happened, there would be some... | ||
| Memory of it. | ||
| First of all, memory. | ||
| I couldn't find any reports. | ||
| No heartless dead bodies. | ||
| No emaciated people showing up saying they were in a castle with demons. | ||
| Nothing? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If anybody has a lead on this, I'd be willing to... | ||
| Explore it, but I couldn't find anything. | ||
| Man, sometimes you really do think maybe this is just a recurring dream Alex has, you know? | ||
| And it has nothing to do with anything in real life. | ||
| Wouldn't be too surprising. | ||
| Or it could be a chain email or something like that. | ||
| Could be a chain email, yeah. | ||
| It does not have to be strictly connected to reality. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| So here's where I have to eat a little crow. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We've been speculating about Alex. | ||
| Having a different backstory about Satanism in 2003 than he does in the present. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That might not be accurate. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| My friends, I grew up in Rockwell, Texas. | ||
| Very wealthy suburb of Dallas. | ||
| I was a poor boy. | ||
| My dad was middle class. | ||
| And dozens of times, every group of friends I tried to be involved with, the jocks, the... | ||
| Rock and roll crowd, the rich kids, especially the rich kids, tried to recruit me into Satanism. | ||
| And I've talked about this before. | ||
| I mean, I'd be at some girl's house, you know, who wanted to date me, you know, beautiful dark black hair and big old green eyes, in some $15 million house, and they come right out and say, we're Satanists, you want to join us? | ||
| And I'd say, no thank you. | ||
| And then when I'd say, no thank you, I'd have the police pull me over and tell me that if I didn't straighten up, I'd be a dead man. | ||
| And my family had to move to Austin, Texas. | ||
| To get away from this type of stuff. | ||
| So yeah, the idea that people tried to recruit him into Satanism when he was younger, it's just a story that he tells less frequently in the past, but it's still part of his story, and that's interesting to me. | ||
| That's very interesting. | ||
| But also there's fundamental differences between this and the way he tells it in the present. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| But who among us has a personal story that they've told for 20 years that has not seen some changes to it? | ||
| I think one as important as constant recruitment to the devil. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| That one would stick in your memory. | ||
| Now, the way I see it, one of the fundamental differences that exists in this telling and in the future tellings is that here, it could just be a bunch of weirdos who are into Satanism. | ||
| Metal was big at this point when Alex was in high school. | ||
| You could see people who were into darkness and wearing antlers. | ||
| Anybody with his poster on their wall, I bet he was like, they're a Satanist! | ||
| You could see that. | ||
| In the present, the way he tells this story, the devil is actually telling these people to get him. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Because he is psychic and he's going to be important to God's missions. | ||
| They are directed by the devil. | ||
| Yeah, so there's a little bit of functional difference. | ||
| In terms of what the story means. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Also, I think that this is different in as much as there were multiple different groups trying to recruit him into Satanism, which is strange. | ||
| That is weird that the entire... | ||
| How is it that the entire high school is apparently super into Satanism together, but they've still got jock clicks in Satanism? | ||
| I feel like that's... | ||
| Although, you know... | ||
| The jock Satanists bully the nerd Satanists. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that seems unfair. | ||
| I don't think you should do that. | ||
| Do you understand the conception that he's painting, too? | ||
| Is that, like, all these groups of people within the high school are Satanists. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Now... | |
| You'd have to assume that they didn't all just one day decide at school we're going to become Satanists. | ||
| You'd assume their parents probably have something to do with that. | ||
| I mean, there would have to be. | ||
| So Alex meets this girl who wants to date him. | ||
| He's over at her house. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Expensive house. | ||
| The dad is like, hey, we should get into Satanism. | ||
| Hey, you want to get some Satanism? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want to get a little Satanism? | ||
| Now, Alex says no thank you, which is fun. | ||
| He's polite. | ||
| He's polite. | ||
| He believes in the Lord our Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you, sir, but I will not. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The police start harassing him because he rejected this call to Satanism. | ||
| So you have to assume the police department is involved in the Satanism. | ||
| This whole town is Satan-driven. | ||
| I could see him saying that it was just the rich people. | ||
| Nope, the police are involved in Satanism. | ||
| But that's part of his backstory, too, is revealing the police were all corrupt, right? | ||
| Yeah, but the... | ||
| Well, it's a fake backstory. | ||
| The more sort of grounded version of it is that he discovered that... | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so he blew the whistle on that, and the police chief ran him out of town. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He does describe his childhood a lot like the movie Warriors. | ||
| You know, like, there's just different roving gangs all around, and he's just trying to navigate where he's trying to get to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's highly problematic. | ||
| It is highly problematic! | ||
| That's a good way. | ||
| That movie is tough to watch with modern eyes. | ||
| Don't go back. | ||
| You can never go home again. | ||
| No, just enjoy the costumes. | ||
| That gang looks like baseball players. | ||
| So we're done with the 30th here and we jump to July 1st. | ||
| And Alex has some concerns about COG and the line of succession in the government. | ||
| I see. | ||
| And they've got a new bill where Reg moves in to the ascension past others in the cabinet in a continuity of government system. | ||
| They are setting up a dictatorship, my friends, and they want a constitutional convention. | ||
| And in that con-con, now being promoted by the neocon Trojan Horse Forces, they can rewrite all the bills and legislation. | ||
| They can change the Bill of Rights and Constitution. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Senate bill. | ||
| Here's a new bill. | ||
| It's not a con-con. | ||
| It's another bill. | ||
| Senate bill will alter the line of presidential succession. | ||
| Fox News, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge could move up to eighth in the line of presidential succession leapfrogging ten other cabinet members. | ||
| So, for those who don't know, Tom Ridge was the Secretary of Homeland Security beginning in 2003. | ||
| The issue that Alex is playing fast and loose with here is that that position didn't exist prior to Tom Ridge, since he was the first head of the Department of Homeland Security, which had just been created. | ||
| He was a cabinet member, and most of the cabinet exists in the line of succession, so it was felt that this position needed to be inserted into the order. | ||
| Senate Bill 148 passed on June 27, 2003, making the position 8th in line just after the Attorney General. | ||
| But that's not all there is to the story. | ||
| It had a counterpart in the House, H.R. 2319, that was introduced and it died in committee. | ||
| In 2006, the U.S. Code was amended to include the Secretary of Homeland Security in the line of succession. | ||
| In 18th position, or to put it another way, the last person on the list. | ||
| Wised up! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's an interesting situation here because, in a very technical sense, Alex is covering this news story like he's got some facts right. | ||
| There is a real bill, and it would have made Tom Ridge 8th in line for the presidency. | ||
| True. | ||
| It makes some sense to assume that since it passed the Senate, it might get passed in the House, too. | ||
| Discussing that as a possibility is prudent. | ||
| But I can still think, if you listen to the way Alex is talking about this, he's hamming it up a little bit. | ||
| They're putting in a dictatorship. | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna go with, I don't know if anyone cares who's 8th to 18th in line? | ||
| It seems like... | ||
| Except for the lone survivor, or the designated survivor show. | ||
| I think that if we get to the 8th... | ||
| On the list, we got big problems. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| If we get to eighth on the list, there's no country left. | ||
| We're already fucked. | ||
| I don't know if we could handle that many people at the top of the executive branch. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, the president, the vice president, the speaker of the house, the pro-temporary president of the senate, what's the next one? | ||
| Secretary of State? | ||
| Is Secretary of State five? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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If all of those people are dead, let's just go home. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Unless all of them are getting surgery at the same time. | ||
| Maybe we could do it temporarily. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have the eighth in line be president. | ||
| Ooh, that would be a big get for Kamala Harris. | ||
| The odds of that are slim. | ||
| And, yeah, I think you have bigger issues once you're into, like, Secretary of Agriculture has become president. | ||
| Oh, man, that one's no good. | ||
| We're fucked. | ||
| That one's no good. | ||
| Yeah, because what happened to cause that is going to be a huge issue. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So Alex gets a call. | ||
| He takes a lot of calls. | ||
| It's kind of nice, this little stretch. | ||
| And this caller has a question about a clip that is in Alex's commercial for his documentary. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Paul in Florida, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Do you have the whole recording for the John Ashcroft speech about you will lose your rights, your liberties? | |
| Yes. | ||
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Is that a long speech? | |
| Yeah, it's about an hour long. | ||
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Really? | |
| Do you concentrate on that, just that? | ||
| He said that there is no rights being taken. | ||
| Patriot Act 1 doesn't affect citizens. | ||
| charges of shredding the Constitution, and kangaroo courts are lies. | ||
| If you say this, you're aiding terrorists, and you will lose your liberty. | ||
| So he says, we're not taking your liberty, but if you say we are, we'll take yours. | ||
| And then he comes out and says, okay, it does affect citizens, and there is Patriot Act II. | ||
| I really don't want to be in the position of sounding like I'm defending John Ashcroft, because believe me, as a Missourian, I hate that dude. | ||
| But... | ||
| At the same time, Alex is lying. | ||
| And you can tell that he doesn't know where the clip that this guy's talking about really even comes from. | ||
| He's just trying to spin a yarn on the fly. | ||
| You can hear that in the way that he's pulling information out. | ||
| At this time, Alex was selling a DVD, and a clip of Ashcroft was featured in the commercial, which I will play here. | ||
| We rip the Sinister Patriot Act legislation 1 and 2 apart, piece by piece, and reveal the arrogance of what Ashcroft has to say about your liberty. | ||
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You will lose your liberty. | |
| Homeland Security, executive orders, forced vaccinations, the new prison economy, the Total Information Society, the Pan American Union, federal gun grabs, government-run, white slavery rings, and much, much more. | ||
| If you want to understand what the new world order really is, then my new two-and-a-half-hour video, Police State 3, is for you. | ||
| I just kept the rest of it in to give you a little taste of how he was marketing his materials at the time. | ||
| I do like a good white slavery, because slavery's not that bad. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But white slavery's worse. | ||
| I think you get a sense there from the Ashcroft clip. | ||
| It's just playing, you will lose your liberties. | ||
| And that was from testimony Ashcroft gave on December 6, 2001 in front of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary. | ||
| It's a three and a half hour video on C-SPAN, but Ashcroft's opening statement really only goes about 20 minutes. | ||
| The full sentence that clip comes from is this. | ||
| Quote, Since 1983, the United States government has defined terrorists as those who perpetuate premeditated, politically motivated violence against non-combatant targets. | ||
| My message to America this morning, then, is this. | ||
| If you fit this definition of a terrorist, fear the United States, for you will lose your liberty. | ||
| The editing that Alex uses is very strategic, and even though the Patriot Act sucks, and I hate it, and I hate Ashcroft, Alex has no idea what he's talking about, and he's just making stuff up. | ||
| Also, there is no Patriot Act 2, but there is a Sister Act 2. Ah! | ||
| So, we know that Alex loves fake Thomas Jefferson quotes. | ||
| Loves him. | ||
| Loves him. | ||
| Now, what do you think he thinks about possibly true Thomas Paine quotes? | ||
| Oh, I think he... | ||
| Well, Thomas Paine... | ||
| I'm gonna go with saying he loves him. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Thomas Paine, one of our founding fathers, said, Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well as property. | ||
| Horrid mischief would ensue... | ||
| Were the law-abiding deprive the use of them? | ||
| Again, now you know why we have FEMA on tape for a group of police, and they do it all over the country, saying, quote, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington are terrorists. | ||
| All Christians are terrorists. | ||
| So the quote that Alex is using there is slightly abridged. | ||
| Here's the full version. | ||
| Quote, You can see that Alex's version is conveniently missing the words like laws for some reason. | ||
| Also, this quote is in support of people having guns, for sure, but the context of this is entirely missing. | ||
| This is from a 1775 essay published in the Pennsylvania Magazine titled Thoughts on Defensive War. | ||
| It's essentially war propaganda for the fight against the British trying to persuade religious folks in the colonies that it was right and just for them to arm themselves to fight a defensive war and that their religious liberty was on the line if they didn't. | ||
| Another important point to bring up is that scholars are not in agreement that this was actually Thomas Paine who wrote this article. | ||
| He was the editor of the magazine at the time, and the essay was attributed only to, quote, a lover of peace, so many have assumed that he wrote it himself. | ||
| However, in a 2016 book titled New Directions in Thomas Paine Studies, the authors point out that there are many inconsistent things in this essay that point to it not being written by Paine. | ||
| The most compelling points are that the essay includes the line, quote, The reign of Satan is not ended, and it treats miracles in the Bible as having literally happened, which are counter to the well-established deism which Paine expressed in his other writings like Age of Reason. | ||
| Yeah, it would be very weird for Paine to be like, and Satan's coming after me, the literal Christian devil! | ||
| It's very inconsistent with the way he writes in other contexts. | ||
| So anyway, there's pretty compelling reason to think that this wasn't an actual quote from Thomas Paine, but even if it were, it's just a person trying to convince religious people to fight a defensive... | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's trying to overcome that whole nasty thou shalt not kill part of war, you know? | ||
| Got to get over that. | ||
| That's defensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See? | ||
| So I think that this is a mishandling of this quote, at very least. | ||
| And, hey, guess what? | ||
| It gets worse. | ||
| Another way worse handling of a quote. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
| And then I've got another quote here that I wanted to read, and I've got this from the UN website. | ||
| Food is power. | ||
| We use it to change behavior. | ||
| Some may call that bribery. | ||
| We do not apologize. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Catherine Branini, UN World Food Program, Executive Director, 1997. | ||
| Food is power. | ||
| We use it to change behavior. | ||
| Some may call that bribery. | ||
| We do not apologize. | ||
| Yeah, we know what you do to our food. | ||
| The fluoride, the aspartame, the poisons. | ||
| So in trying to trace this quote down, I ran into the expected problem that almost every website that used it was a very bizarre Geocities-ass website full of insane conspiracy theories. | ||
| And the quote is given with no citation or information when this head of the U.N. food program said this or where. | ||
| Finally, I found a blog that claimed that Catherine Bertini, the former executive director of the U.N. World Food Program, had said this at the U.N.'s fourth conference, sorry, fourth world conference on women in 1789. | ||
| September 1995, which was held in Beijing. | ||
| This is already contradictory to Alex's citation that this quote was from 1997. | ||
| Something smells fishy. | ||
| The Fourth World Conference on Women did in fact take place in Beijing in 1995. | ||
| And you can find a painfully detailed collection of information about the conference on the UN's website, including, but not limited to, the text of remarks made by representatives from over 100 countries, the text of comments made by representatives of NGOs, as well as a ton of transcripts of statements made by UN representatives. | ||
| There's also a bunch of pictures and a video that no longer loads. | ||
| That should be their slogan. | ||
| We're the UN! | ||
| Painfully documented. | ||
| I was able to find the transcript of the speech that Catherine Bertini, that quote, comes from. | ||
| And I want to explain a few things about the conference before we get to the actual words that she said. | ||
| The conference was meant to attempt to find solutions to the problem of severe gender inequality across the world. | ||
| And one of the elements of that problem that was discussed was the greater food insecurity experienced by women in the developing world. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Either due to systemic issues or even just cultural preferences for sons that lead them to getting greater access to food, education, and other necessities at the expense of daughters. | |
| Now, that being said, here is the full passage that this quote was taken from. | ||
| Quote, Let's have no illusions. | ||
| We can't easily change the underlying beliefs and prejudices that do so much damage to women worldwide. | ||
| We cannot quickly change attitudes, but we can change behavior. | ||
| At the World Food Program, we have recognized what a valuable tool food aid can be in changing behavior. | ||
| In so many poorer countries, food is money, food is power. | ||
| In some of our most successful food aid projects, we literally pay families who do not believe in educating their daughters to send those girls to school. | ||
| A little free cooking oil can go a long way. | ||
| We trade a 5-liter can of oil for 30 days of school attendance by a young girl. | ||
| Yes, it's bribery. | ||
| We don't apologize for that. | ||
| We're changing behavior. | ||
| We're giving hope and opportunity to young girls. | ||
| And that is all that counts. | ||
| Every small change in behavior will one day pay off in a change of attitude. | ||
| So I think it's pretty self-evident what's happened here. | ||
| The conspiracy theorists who want to demonize the UN at every turn have taken Pertini's words and selectively edited them down in a way that was specifically designed to remove the context of what he's saying and make it seem as evil as possible. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| This altered version of the quote is posted on conspiracy websites and repeated by Alex with its origins obscured or no citation given, thus making it harder for viewers to track down the source and judge it for themselves. | ||
| On the one hand, this is something that's designed to demonize the UN, but the original statement Bertini made was about empowering women around the world to have agency, which is threatening to people like Alex, who work tirelessly in the service of a male-dominated society. | ||
| By lying about the context of this quote, you not only make the UN look evil, you also deprive Bertini of her point. | ||
| And in doing so, you turn a sentiment of the UN doing whatever it can to help women into proof of some kind of international racketeering and poisoning program. | ||
| And I don't think that element is an accident. | ||
| I think that's... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's hard to imagine it's fully intentional, but it doesn't seem like a coincidence. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| Because what she's saying is this, okay? | ||
| When we give food out to the powers that be in whatever localized nation or tribe or wherever we are, guess what? | ||
| It exacerbates the same inequalities that we've had from the beginning because men run those things. | ||
| So we're skipping past it all. | ||
| We're going to be doing the most practical thing we can do, which is straight up bartering for education. | ||
| It's not bribery, it's trade. | ||
| I'm trading you oil so that everyone's future is better. | ||
| I think that Bertini even sidesteps that and just says, let's call it bribery, because then you don't even have to have the argument. | ||
| Yeah, because who gives a fuck? | ||
| Let's accept the label, but let's understand what it is we're doing. | ||
| And I think that it's so wrong and so awful to... | ||
| See the quote portrayed the way Alex is portraying it and all these conspiracy theorists do, and then when you dig deeper and find the actual quote, see what it's actually about and what the conversation was, where this conference, what it was in service of, and you just see, like, this is horseshit. | ||
| This is... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| That's such a great thing for her to have said, though, just because it's like, just fuck it. | ||
| We got to do something practical because I don't care if my morality, my personal morality says bribery is wrong. | ||
| We got to do something. | ||
| This has got to change. | ||
| It makes me feel like, hey, fuck it. | ||
| Let's just pool our money together and bribe Joe Manchin a little bit more than what everybody else is paying him, and let's just get this done. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, just fuck it. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You're corrupt as shit. | ||
| We'll just play that game then, you know? | ||
| I mean, I think... | ||
| It would just drive up the bidding war and then no one would get anything. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, if there were, like, sort of market forces that were bribing people to not send daughters to school in the developing world, then you'd end up in a situation where this bribery would only exacerbate the problem. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| It's just a, we don't care to educate our daughters. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Or it's less of a priority. | ||
| It's an incentive. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think that's a little different, but I get what you're saying. | ||
| It is different. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Also, man, talk about missed opportunities. | ||
| The U.S. representatives that went to that 1995 conference, Hillary Clinton and Madeleine Albright. | ||
| Alex could have yelled about them. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That would have been more fun for him. | ||
| From the very beginning. | ||
| It's always been there. | ||
| It's always been there, man. | ||
| It's right there. | ||
| So, Alex, I think, is going a little bit far afield on the Harry Potter conspiracies. | ||
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Oh, you think? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And, oh, God. | ||
| How far? | ||
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I mean, I agree with you. | |
| I mean, in most part, but I just don't see, as, like, lately, with, like, I don't see what J.K. Rowling and the Harry Potter books, I mean, really. | ||
| Have you ever been in a giant satanic meeting? | ||
| Well, I have been. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I've been a stone's throw from world leaders worshipping Moloch. | ||
| Now, what's happened in the culture is they took the occult, put it in red pajamas and with little black horns and said it's an Anton LaVey deal, it's this kooky thing, weirdos talk about it. | ||
| The fastest growing religion, according to the FBI, according to Scotland Yard, is the satanic elite, is satanism. | ||
| They're having major arrests of public figures engaged in satanic murder cults from Belgium to France to Portugal right now. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
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No, sir, I did not. | |
| And it's not like it's a rumor. | ||
| They're digging the dead babies up, sir. | ||
| I've heard. | ||
| Do you know what the summer solstice is? | ||
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It's a Wiccan sacred day. | |
| Yeah, well, that's when they released the Harry Potter book. | ||
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So you think that's a purpose thing? | |
| They do it every year. | ||
| The little kids dress up like witches and dance around. | ||
| The book teaches you how to get into the occult with magical thinking. | ||
| It leads you into it. | ||
| I mean, it's hidden in plain view, sir. | ||
| So this caller is even like, hey man, I like you, but I don't know about this Harry Potter stuff. | ||
| That's how far Alex is off. | ||
| Also, he's wrong. | ||
| The books don't get released every year on the solstice. | ||
| His perception of it, because it's a fun story. | ||
| It is fun. | ||
| But I like this whenever a caller is somebody who's not totally bought in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Someone who's like, I'm inclined to believe some of the things you say, and I do believe that maybe the powerful don't have our interests at the front of their list. | ||
| But man, Harry Potter, are you fucking kidding me? | ||
| It's just a book, dude. | ||
| Are you going to come at me and tell me that the movie Witches starring... | ||
| What's their faces? | ||
| Or not witches, the three... | ||
| Hocus Pocus? | ||
| Hocus Pocus. | ||
| How are you that good? | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| I have references. | ||
| Yeah, is that like a teaching... | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| I mean, he's already complained about, like, Sabrina the Teenage Witch. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| He really has gone after everything innocuous. | ||
| So, Alex really wants a win from this caller. | ||
| He wants to get him over onto his side, and I don't think it's working. | ||
| They admit they go to the Grove every year. | ||
| They're members of Skull and Bones. | ||
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Okay, well then they are Satanists. | |
| So I'm saying that J.K. Rowling is not part of the global elite, nor is she a Satanist. | ||
| I believe she's just writing children's books. | ||
| Yeah, she writes these books about learning the occult, doing the rituals, and then an obscure scholastic educational publisher gets picked up by the big boys and promoted wall-to-wall in public schools everywhere, pay to have the kids get in buses and go see the movies. | ||
| I mean, it's ridiculous. | ||
| It's a gateway into the occult. | ||
| Of course the Wiccans say it's all white magic. | ||
| Fun and they're loving. | ||
| Do they see that? | ||
| Oh, come on out to our orgies. | ||
| It's a lot of fun, young people. | ||
| And then it leads them into the occult and black magic, sir. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I grew up watching it in Dallas, Texas. | ||
| It's real, okay? | ||
| It's real. | ||
| This stuff is real. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| It's all over the place. | ||
| CBS's symbol. | ||
| Viacom's symbol. | ||
| Time Warner's symbol. | ||
| Fidelity Financial's symbol. | ||
| All these things are say... | ||
| Panic symbols. | ||
| It's everywhere, sir. | ||
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I mean, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this issue. | |
| I don't see that she's part of the global elite, and I guess you... | ||
| I told you, sir, that her book is being promoted wall-to-wall, okay, and that it is shifting the youth over... | ||
| Did you know the Fortune 500 are pushing the New Age and meditation and all that? | ||
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Well, that doesn't surprise me. | |
| Those people are always into that kind of UH. | ||
| Well, have you read the books? | ||
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I've not read the books. | |
| I've seen the movies. | ||
| I'm not a Potter fan. | ||
| I've read two of them. | ||
| And let me tell you, sir, I have official black magic books, okay? | ||
| I have read this stuff. | ||
| I have studied it. | ||
| I've been in some of the most extensive libraries on it. | ||
| Tex Myers' library that fills two whole rooms. | ||
| Wall-to-wall books. | ||
| And let me tell you, it is satanic. | ||
| Bottom line, sir. | ||
| So I like the condescending way Alex keeps saying sir. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like how Alex is just grasping at straws. | ||
| Like, Viacom symbol, it's all Satan. | ||
| I mean, that's wild. | ||
| And I like that this guy has a little backbone. | ||
| Like, I guess we gotta agree to disagree on this, because you're not gonna change your mind, and I'm certainly not gonna change my mind. | ||
| I do think it's so funny to say, I guess we'll have to agree to... | ||
| Like, that's the most infuriating thing you can say to Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He can't. | ||
| No. | ||
| He cannot agree to disagree. | ||
| No. | ||
| You are wrong. | ||
| Well, and you have to accept that he's right, because his relationship with being right is so fragile. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, it's tenuous at best. | ||
| Yeah, the idea that anybody could talk to him and... | ||
| Not agree with him. | ||
| They either have to be like paid by the enemy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The enemy themselves or it's just it's impossible because he has to believe that he has access to all of the most real truth or else all of this is bullshit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's a larger thing. | ||
| Here's the in fact maybe the largest thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Magic is real in Alex's estimation. | ||
| He has real black magic books. | ||
| He does. | ||
| Is it possible for Alex to perform black magic and he simply chooses not to? | ||
| I mean, it must be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At least in his mind. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also, Tex Mars is not the best reference you want to have for his giant library that's probably full of neo-Nazi books. | ||
| Yeah, that one might be a little bit. | ||
| I wouldn't carry that one around with me. | ||
| If that's your first poll, I think we're in trouble. | ||
| Look, I studied the occult with Tex Mars. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Oh, no, buddy. | ||
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I mean, I studied the occult with this guy. | |
| Now, I know his last name is going to put you off. | ||
| It was Hitler, but he was super into it. | ||
| Dave Hitler. | ||
| So, this caller really knocks it out of the park. | ||
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I just don't know really what to say. | |
| I mean, I guess, I don't know. | ||
| Lately, I've just been seeing some things. | ||
| I think you've been going off on some tangents on the show. | ||
| At least yesterday. | ||
| I've heard a lot of homophobic undertones going through the show, too, and it just kind of turns me off as to the work that we're doing. | ||
| Mike, let me just tell you something. | ||
| When the homosexuals stop working with CPS to take people's kids, where do you think they're getting all these kids for their so-called families? | ||
| When they stop aggressively promoting it in the schools and start leaving their families alone, they'll get left alone. | ||
| You don't know how aggressive a lot of the homosexuals are in their movements? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| So I think that caller is fantastic. | ||
| When I heard that, I was like, that's exactly what I thought. | ||
| That call was really homophobic. | ||
| Yeah, that was a really homophobic call. | ||
| Hearing that being voiced on the show is really interesting because... | ||
| That's the kind of thing that you'd like to see what Alex's response is. | ||
| And his response is apparently, so-called families. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Do you know how aggressive these homosexuals are? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| They start leaving our families alone and we'll leave them alone. | ||
| Like, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| Man, that's, it's so weird. | ||
| It just doubles down. | ||
| It's so weird to hear this type of shit and then see it so latent still in the present. | ||
| It's still there. | ||
| You know, he doesn't openly talk about it like that. | ||
| He does a little bit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He does a little. | ||
| It's entirely possible to backslide shortly into a place where he can just go around saying, yeah, these so-called homosexual families. | ||
| Like, that's a very possible thing. | ||
| I think it's already still there. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| I mean, it could... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| That sucks. | ||
| We should be way better than this. | ||
| It exists in his... | ||
| Insistence that the LGBTQ movement is trying to normalize pedophilia. | ||
| Yeah, it's all there. | ||
| Yeah, it's just sort of transitioned the exact focus of it. | ||
| But the same hatred and intolerance of people who are not straight, white, male Christians is just there. | ||
| It's there. | ||
| It's been there. | ||
| Endemic forever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I thought that call was pretty good. | ||
| Yeah, that was great. | ||
| In terms of calls. | ||
| And then Alex gets another call, and Alex is just, he's pissed. | ||
| He's done. | ||
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I'm not going to put you on the spot here, but you tell us to support your sponsors. | |
| You got a sponsor supporting your show. | ||
| I don't know how it got through Genesis. | ||
| Our Clay Financial. | ||
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You know about them? | |
| No, I don't. | ||
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You know what? | |
| I mean, I think I've had enough of this right now. | ||
| This show is about fighting the new world order. | ||
| My broadcast is about covering the news. | ||
| And I am not going to sit here on my show and talk bad about sponsors. | ||
| So this is the sponsor that also caught my attention that was the commercial selling Europe. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| And so we got a caller who brings that up. | ||
| Those were on-the-ball callers back then. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty sweet. | ||
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Wow! | |
| And I love Alex just being like, wow, about over this. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| I'm about over hearing negative feedback that is well-deserved. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| I much prefer it when people blindly accept whatever I say and tell me I'm a genius. | ||
| Just because Barkley Financial is, by all accounts... | ||
| Exactly the type of globalist organization that I am exactly fighting against. | ||
| Doesn't mean I'm going to talk bad about them if they sponsor my show. | ||
| Yeah, so they're a financial outlet that is advocating buying the euro. | ||
| And they paid for ad time and were accepted by Ted Anderson of Midas Resources. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's confusing. | ||
| It doesn't seem ideologically consistent. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, we come to the end of this, because the rest of the show isn't really, it's boring as hell. | ||
| No, he's about done with this. | ||
| He's literally done with this. | ||
| He said it very clearly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, also, Dan from Illinois called back in. | ||
| Oh, did he? | ||
| Yeah, so that was nice. | ||
| You're a traitor, Dan. | ||
| There's nothing really that comes up, but I wanted to make note of it. | ||
| My boy, Dan from Illinois. | ||
| Gotta get it in there. | ||
| Yeah, he's apparently a pretty consistent caller back in 2003. | ||
| You guys should meet. | ||
| Yeah, never. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So yeah, I guess that brings us to the end of this, and I think I would like to just acknowledge that I... | ||
| Was a little hasty in my assumption that Alex didn't talk about how he was recruited into Satanism back in 2003 for fear of being seen as crazy. | ||
| He did. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I think that there are salient differences between them that make the present-day version far, far crazier than the past version. | ||
| And he talks about it less. | ||
| But still, hey. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, this is fairly tame, and you could even argue that it's just a poetic exaggeration to say that all the jocks and all of them were Satanists. | ||
| Taking on its face what he's saying, the implications of it are nuts. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They would involve an entire town dedicated to Satan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which would be a great movie. | ||
| I think it's been made a couple times. | ||
| I think it's been made a few times. | ||
| But yeah, real deep. | ||
| Deep homophobic leanings throughout. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| And I really thought that that UN Food Program quote was something that, like, that is such a good distillation of the way that information is weaponized by conspiracy theorists, people like Alex. | ||
| They deprive a very... | ||
| Reasonable and appropriate quote about one issue into being about something entirely different and strip it of all of the context that makes it make sense. | ||
| Swift voting. | ||
| It turns it evil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's something that people should be very aware of. | ||
| And when you have quotes and information that comes from these dubious sources... | ||
| It's always important to figure out what is actually being said by the people as opposed to what's being claimed to have been said. | ||
| And, yeah, that's a point I'd like to drive home. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Do you know where I learned that from? | ||
| Thomas Jefferson. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Sorry, I interrupted you. | ||
| I mean, ultimately, it is probably their most powerful tool, right? | ||
| The ability to take something that someone is saying, That you cannot not agree with. | ||
| Unless you're a monster, right? | ||
| I think it's a regular tactic. | ||
| But I think that their most important tool is... | ||
| All their money. | ||
| Well, that's important. | ||
| Blind trust. | ||
| A sense of complacency and people just believing these things without looking into them themselves. | ||
| I think that that's their most important tool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this strategy of, yeah, weaponizing sensible quotes into evil. | ||
| Into the evil, yeah. | ||
| That's a technique that's used a lot. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| So anyway, Jordan, we'll be back. | ||
| Indeed we will. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We also are on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's that knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bed, Jordan. | ||
| Yup. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |
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