Today, Dan and Jordan reunite to discuss Alex Jones' Sunday broadcast. In this installment, Alex can't keep his conspiracies about scenario-based exercises straight, misreports a couple of stories, and makes a noise that that Jordan was unprepared for. Citations
And the only reason I bring this back up is because we're coming back here on a Wednesday and I'd really hoped that we would have been able to record some stuff before your vacation and then have it to sort of smooth things out on either end of it.
Because I was not feeling well, we weren't able to, and I appreciate everybody being understanding.
The fact that our schedules match up in a very strange way when we don't really announce these things all that far in advance is upsetting, to say the least.
So far, every time we do something, it winds up spiraling out of control.
Yeah.
I think this one might get us to arc levels of out of control.
Like, eventually everyone's going to realize that the only way we're going to make it through this is if we have two of every animal in the cult of Selene.
A hawk would have come out of nowhere to deliver the news.
So Alex is just talking about an article here in the Daily Mail that discusses some recent comments from the UK's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies, also known as SAGE.
They warned that the possibility of a mutation occurring that could make COVID as deadly as MERS was, quote, a realistic possibility.
The part that Alex is completely ignoring about the article is the part where it also says, quote, the SAGE report also claimed it was equally realistic that COVID will mutate to become less lethal over time.
This was a paper that encouraged the UK government to not give in to complacency, because at this point, there's really no way to know how COVID's going to evolve in the future.
The part about vaccines creating the mutations is just a simple misrepresentation of a single line in this Daily Mail article that says, quote, In a downside of Britain's hugely successful vaccination drive, the team warned the country's greater levels of immunity may help speed up the virus's evolutionary process.
This isn't saying that vaccines create mutations.
That's just Alex's made-up version of what that means.
It's clear if you read the underlying report that this is a reference to the phenomenon known as selection pressure that occurs whenever you treat an illness.
You wouldn't say that antibiotics create antibiotic-resistant strains of illness.
But if you don't take a full course of antibiotics, you might fuck around and create antibiotics-resistant strains of things.
If you do care to look for this and actually, you know, you can find the report if you want to look into primary sources instead of what Alex does, which is just skim Daily Mail articles.
It's pretty easy to find, that paper, if you want.
It's titled SPI-M-O, Statement on Their Concerns for the Next Few Months.
The framing of this document is really clear, in that it's discussing possible circumstances the UK could find itself in that officials need to keep in mind as they embark on, quote, the final step of easing restrictions.
Primarily, they list a key concern as being that, quote, any epidemic trajectory that could lead to unsustainable pressure on the NHS or other adverse outcomes would need to be identified and contingency enacted within days.
The report itself actually has a graphic at the bottom of it that explains what they mean when they say realistic possibility.
This is something that has about a 40-50% chance in their estimation.
It's slightly more probable than unlikely, and less likely than likely.
All this context is absent from Alex's coverage because he's just interested in misrepresenting headlines in order to scare the audience into whatever direction he thinks is going to be profitable that day.
Also...
That 2.6 billion number, that isn't from the report.
You know, I think one of the big problems that we're experiencing right now is a simple kind of error, which is that in order to deal with this, we needed leaders who had the courage to say things that people didn't want to hear and then enforce those things as being necessary.
But our system...
Everyone doesn't reward courageous leaders.
It punishes them for sometimes being wrong or being right in a mean way.
And so instead, we've got a bunch of fucking cowards!
One thing I really always appreciate about someone like an Alex, even if he is, you know, off track sometimes, he really knows how to keep his own stories straight.
It's really sad to hear the way Alex is talking about these two exercises.
He's made up a ton of shit about both to the point where he doesn't even remember which is which.
The reality of either underlying thing isn't even something that he's connected to any longer, which is outrageous.
Neither of these things that he's talking about were run by the Rockefeller Institute, which he's trying to imply.
Crimson Contagion was a series of exercises run by the HHS.
It was a government operation.
Because it was a big, elaborate scenario thing, there were a bunch of governmental and non-governmental participants.
In the report, there's actually a list of non-governmental participants, and the Rockefeller Foundation isn't even one of them.
SPARS was a scenario exercise that was run by Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.
These are two very different exercises, and the fact that Alex can get them confused is a very strong indication that he doesn't know anything about them past their name and the stories that he's made up about them.
Crimson Contagion was a government-run series of exercises about the fictitious discovery of a novel influenza virus, not a coronavirus.
In Crimson Contagion, the idea was to test interagency collaboration as well as collaboration with non-governmental agencies and tribal leaders to see what challenges would arise in the course of responding to a new infectious disease.
The report is largely about the things that they learned in the course of role-playing, like, quote, This is not like an elaborate scenario that's fleshed out with a ton of detail in this case.
Because the point of the exercise was to have a basic problem that required coordination to address, which would create the opportunity for people to test that coordination in a safe environment and identify problems ahead of time.
Conversely, SPARS is a little bit of a different kind of scenario exercise.
This isn't something that was role-played like Crimson Contagion was.
It's instead a document that lays out a fictitious future series of events, then poses questions about how you could best respond to those developments.
SPARS is an exercise that is explicitly about messaging and public health risk communication, so it's something that doesn't really lend itself to role-playing in the way the Crimson Contagion did.
Trying to explore challenges of public health messaging would be hard to do in a role-playing environment without a fake audience to send the messages to, so it makes a lot more sense to approach the issue in this format, where you have discussion questions and scenarios like, how would you respond if you got this curveball thrown at you?
Like, the basketball practice, you've got people playing, you're running through the scenarios that might come up in a game, and in the fantasy football, you're studying, and you're taking data and extrapolating based on that.
Each section of that Spars document is meant to highlight a different communication challenge that officials could face in the context of a pandemic.
Chapter 17 is about messaging surrounding potential vaccine side effects, but none of the information Alex is providing is in any way consistent with any of that stuff.
See, now, if you make up details about things and then create a completely different thing based around it and then forget what that is, you can't go back and find it.
I understand the basic pieces of information that Alex is trying to run with here, and it's all bullshit, but I want to really drive home here that Alex doesn't even know the fake things he's talking about.
He put out an emergency special report on Saturday where he started to get into this stuff, and here's what he said.
I'll be covering this on the Sunday show tomorrow, 4 to 6 p.m. with the document.
Crimson contagion from four years ago?
Three years ago?
They say in there that they're going to roll out a vaccine for a coronavirus, and a year later it's going to turn out it kills a bunch of people.
And they even say public health officials will step down and apologize, and they're going to have new vaccines that will protect you from the variants that the mistaken, failed vaccine creates.
And if you read Crimson Contagion, if you read Event 201, if you read Operation Lockstep from the Rockefellers, and the Rockefeller Foundation is now in complete control of world policy, Gates didn't move partially.
Over the course of his broadcasts, he's created entirely fictional versions of Crimson Contagion, Event 201, and Spars, and then he's just completely fabricated Operation Lockstep out of that Rockefeller document that he's never read.
These documents are real, and they're actually interesting to read, but not for the reasons that Alex insists they are.
So, antibody-dependent enhancement is a real phenomenon that scientists do see at times.
But it's actually really funny that Alex is trying to connect the possibility to COVID vaccines for a number of reasons.
The biggest of them is that the possibility of ADE was absolutely something that researchers and experts were discussing in the early stages of developing a vaccine.
If there is an active pandemic, giving people something that will make them respond worse to contact with viruses is going to be ultimately counterproductive and probably one of the things they're going to check off early.
The best way to understand ADE is by talking about the first place it was identified, which was in relation to dengue fever.
There are four varieties or serotypes of dengue fever numbered 1 through 4. If you get sick with dengue fever type 1 and then you survive, your body will create antibodies that protect you from that serotype, should you ever encounter it in the future.
That's great news.
However, the problem is that if you run into serotype 2, 3, or 4, there's a decent chance that the antibodies you have against serotype 1 will actually enhance the ability of dengue fever to replicate and evade being neutralized inside your body.
A secondary infection is actually really much worse.
Some early indications raised concerns that having vaccines that attack viral proteins of COVID had the potential to cause ADE, which is one of the reasons that research skewed very heavily in the direction of mRNA vaccines and the targeting of spike protein instead of the viral...
Alex is pretending this is some kind of a big issue that everyone's ignoring, but it's not.
The scientific community has kept the phenomenon well in mind, and...
The pandemic response has gone on, and follow-up research on people who have been vaccinated and had breakthrough infections actually has shown that there really aren't signs of ADE with COVID.
If there were ADE happening, you would expect to see vaccinated people having more severe cases of COVID when they're exposed to the virus.
But in reality, the cases among vaccinated people are statistically less severe and have led to less hospitalizations and deaths, which are very strong indications that ADE is not something that's in play.
And I mean, just the fact that the vaccine has documented effectiveness against new variants as well would suggest very obviously that it's not that huge of a problem.
then we would see an increased or even greater negative reaction from the Delta variant if you were vaccinated against whatever, you know?
He's going to say that they're all just people who are vaccinated who have ADE-related issues where they got the vaccine and then they got the challenge of being exposed to COVID and the globalists killed them.
This is a live Sunday, August 1st, 2021 transmission.
And let me just start right here with the big announcement.
It is not debated by the CDC.
It is not debated by the NIH, National Institute of Health.
It is not debated by the NIH or the British.
National Health Service or any of the major governments in the world that the so-called COVID-19 vaccinations, whether they be a virus vector from Johnson& Johnson or AstraZeneca, or whether they be an mRNA from Moderna or Pfizer, all of them make you get COVID and make you shed COVID and make you create deadly variants and doesn't work.
With point three, the claim that the vaccines make people create deadly variants of the virus.
That just doesn't stand up to scrutiny either.
The variants that we're seeing identified now came into existence before the vaccines were developed and administered, so I guess unless he has some other mystery variants that he's talking about, I'm not going to take this seriously either.
So this leaves us with point two about shedding virus, which is the only part that even comes close to being interesting.
Some recent preprint studies have shown some indications that it's possible for people who have been vaccinated but end up catching a breakthrough case of the Delta variant, they could be as infectious as unvaccinated persons.
This is a matter that we are definitely, we need more data on before we can jump to any solid conclusions, but it's something that makes it clear that we should all be cautious.
These same studies that suggest this possibility also found, quote, viral loads decreased faster in the vaccinated group, so either way, there appears to be concrete public health advantages to being vaccinated, even if it isn't a magic silver bullet, and even if we're learning along the way new things that we were not aware of earlier.
course there are serious concerns that merit discussion about potential challenges we're still facing with the coronavirus but to act the way that alex is acting does a complete disservice towards anyone's ability to engage with this material in a serious way if you get information from him you have to sift through all this bullshit in order to reach one thing that's being discussed poorly which is the idea that if you're vaccinated you still might be contagious yeah you can get the information that you need from better places without having to Yeah, I mean...
I can't imagine an emergency broadcast alert suddenly breaking in while you're watching some dumb reality show like Survivor, and then the government's like, you're gonna die, you're gonna die, you're gonna die, you're gonna die!
Anyways, just so you know, it's a possibility that breakthrough infections could be a problem.
CDC released a study showing three-fourths of Delta cases are among the vaccinated.
It says mask are the answer.
More lies from the same people.
It goes on to say, That have tested positive, took the vaccine, and it goes on into all the different sloughing off of new more deadly variants of the virus, which all these top scientists warn would be the case.
So what he's talking about here was a targeted study surrounding a cluster of cases that occurred in the wake of, quote, multiple summer events and large public gatherings in a town of Barnstable County, Massachusetts.
There are important questions to ask about this cluster, and I would not begrudge anyone raising concerns about what this sort of thing could imply, but that is not what Alex is doing.
He's misreporting and making leaps in his coverage that are unearned.
For instance, the way he's covering this story, you'd be led to believe that this has to do with 74% of all Delta variant cases being among vaccinated persons.
Alex is missing the appropriate context, that this was just about 469 people who tested positive after attending events in Provincetown.
The 74% number is definitely worth looking at, and it is a concern, but this study does not involve a representative sample that you can extrapolate to the rest of the world.
There's far more information we need to track down before this number can be understood in its really full, proper context.
If you read the actual CDC report, you'll find a very important note that it's key to remember.
Quote, data from this report are insufficient to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, including the Delta variant during this outbreak.
As population level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger portion of COVID-19 cases.
This is to say that if in this series of events in Provincetown there was a 95% vaccination rate, you would expect the total number of infections you'd see in an outbreak to be low, the total number, but the proportion of those infected who are vaccinated would be higher.
This is because no vaccine has a perfect effectiveness rating, and also that's just how statistics work.
Provincetown is a place in Massachusetts that's well known as a very LGBTQ-friendly environment, and if I had to bet, I would say that it's a place you'd find pretty high vaccination rates.
So, you know, in the event of an outbreak happening in a place like that, it doesn't surprise me too much that the percentage of people who are vaccinated would be high.
It is very important, and if you understand it within the full context of what it is, then it's very interesting and something that needs to be looked at and studied.
But if you are just reading a WAPO headline, then you're fucking terrifying!
And that is that if you take, you know, you take that number, the 346 vaccinated persons having breakthrough cases in this outbreak.
If you only focus on that number, you're missing an important figure, which is how many vaccinated persons might have been exposed.
to the virus and didn't get sick in the course of these public gatherings and large events.
I'm not saying that any of this makes the story like less a matter for concern or something people shouldn't be focusing on, but it's just critical in these times to take this stuff in the proper context and not extrapolate this out to 74% of cases Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm concerned, quite frankly, about unknown unknowns, obviously.
I beg anyone who takes Alex Jones seriously to consider how sloppy and lazy this process is.
Instead of actually looking into any primary sources on Finland or any possible outbreaks that have happened there, what you just heard is how Alex has decided to present this story.
This is Alex reading a tweet from an unverified account that's allegedly run by a guy who either holds MD and MS degrees or is claiming to have houses in Maryland and Mississippi.
This is not how someone who takes their job seriously would operate.
So I found the tweet, and Alex is legitimately just reading the body of this guy's tweet, which was accompanied by a screenshot and a link to a Euro surveillance article.
It's that great level of right-wing nonsense where you can just take a random dude with 20 followers tweeting there were 3 million illegals voting and turn it into the number one narrative that people throw around a fucking election.
And it's such shitty work that I don't even know why I found the study and read it.
But suffice it to say, it's another very small snapshot of an outbreak that happened at a secondary care hospital in Finland in May of this year.
45 health care workers and 58 patients ended up contracting COVID.
And if you look at the data, one of the things that jumps out as possibly most concerning is that people who are only partially vaccinated might have a higher risk with the Delta variant.
48 out of the 103 cases were among people who are only partially vaccinated, as compared to 35 who are unvaccinated and 20 who are fully vaccinated.
There's other dynamics between the Yeah, no, the variables are, yeah.
Again, it's something to keep an eye on, but this is not just a case study that you can read a tweet about and assume that it applies to the entire general population.
You kill billions of people, and you make billions of people sick, and that'll collapse civilization.
Everybody else will be scared to go into work or be around anybody or be around the vaccinated.
This is a psychological weapon of fear.
It's meant to destroy confidence in the government.
You think the U.S. government will ever have credibility again when this all comes out?
And it finally all clicked this morning, and it's why I actually got dizzy.
Well, you've heard, like, women will get told, hey, your husband was just found dead, and the woman will stagger back and fall over.
I've been studying all day, and when this all crystallized in my mind, like a thousand points plus a thousand, I actually got dizzy, and I was stumbling around, and it all hit me.
And so the actual dean of the School of Medicine, the other School of Medicine, is Dr. Jennifer.
He could be talking about her, but I don't know what she said.
I can't find anything.
But to imagine that you have this guy who's super anti-misinformation about COVID and about the pandemic, and then this other person who's like, it's all evil.
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They're both teens in the Baylor School of Medicine.
I suppose if I was a vindictive propagandist, I would find somebody saying that misinformation was a real problem to be offensive to me, and also accurate, and so I would then include them in my misinformation as an insult.
Well, it's interesting when you have a claim that lockdowns are permanent, and the thing that you come up with to reinforce your claim is something that says the opposite.
According to the article, quote, With experience in education.
That is a tough sell, especially when you consider that in the description section of the GoFundMe that he was using to start the schools, he misspelled public school as pubic.
Also, just because this is really fun, here's another thing from the article.
Quote, Sky didn't respond to a detailed list of questions sent by Vice News about his projects.
After the questions were sent, Sky made several social media posts about an upcoming Vice News story about him, in which he implied, I was a pedophile and George Soros directly ordered me to write this piece and shared my phone number to his followers.
laughing Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Anyway, he's a flamboyant anti-mask character, and he's got a cool neck tattoo, so he's got a bit of online attention for him, and so he's been hanging out with Alex a little bit.
I mean, we're talking about three university heads I've got clips of.
The Baylor Medical School, two other top heads coming out and saying the shots are deadly, don't do it, it's a disaster.
All these other top scientists, I probably watched.
Four hours today of six, seven hours of research of just clips of medical doctors and scientists and I'd track down their curriculum vitae and they'd be who they said they were and match with the research and the documents and the CDC saying 74% of the new COVID cases are in people that are vaccinated and they're worse and most of the deaths are in them.
If Bill Clinton ended up being the Secretary General of the United Nations and then President of the United States again after Hillary had two terms, I would probably be freaking out that Alex called that.
People always like to go to those Nostradamus predictions that are a little bit vague and have plenty of room for interpretation however you want them to go.
You could ease much more easily with David Icke than Nick Fuentes, I think.
Anyway, a year ago, you may recall, Mike Adams is going to come into the fray here in a minute, but a year ago, they were saying that hospitals were full.
He seems to think that there's a bigger plan going on, right?
So, all these news reports that are coming out about how people who are vaccinated can still, you know, the Delta variant, you might get it, it might be transmissible.
The reason they've done this and the reason that they've admitted now over the last week that these vaccines don't work and that they're causing the spread of these so-called Delta strains, the reason they're doing this is because they want an uprising in America.
This is bait.
They want an uprising even among those who were vaccinated and then are now angry and coming to their senses and saying, what, we were lied to?
They want a massive uprising.
Because they need a justification for a military-style martial law crackdown in order to cover their tracks because their entire globalist system is about to implode, and many of them are going to go to prison or be tried under Nuremberg 2.0.
Anyway, Mike believes that if you've been vaccinated, and this is actually something he's been saying quite a bit on the show, this is something I remember hearing him say even a ways back, is basically like, you're a biological weapon factory.
The real shocker here is, have you noticed over the last week that all of the so-called woke corporations have now demanded mandatory vaccines among their own workers?
So we're talking Facebook, Google, Twitter, Disney, Walmart, even the Washington Post and many other corporations like that.
They know that they are ordering the vaccine slaughter of their own.
Interesting strategies.
You ask why.
Why would they do that?
Well, at Google in particular, and by the way, Zach Voorhees has been a guest on your show explaining all of this.
At Google, the humans have been teaching Google's machine learning systems and AI systems for the last five years how to no longer need humans in the loop when it comes to moderation.
The globalists are now acting as if they have knowledge of a global-level mass extinction type of event or threat, probably one that they are going to unleash, and they want to make sure that there are billions fewer human beings around when that happens, because they can't control billions of people once people realize they've been lied to and they've been poisoned and they're being killed.
I'm going to elaborate on this because you're going way out, third-dimensional chess.
They're acting like a gun is to their head to go ahead and get rid of us now, because what's going to happen is so destabilizing, they know that that could organize into a new political group that challenges them.
So they're acting like there will be no resources very soon.
I do tend to just leap ahead because you and I have a knowledge base and your listeners have a knowledge base of so much that the average American is just clueless about.
Let's just say, as a thought experiment, that a giant asteroid were going to hit the planet.
I'm not saying that's going to happen, but let's just say that were going to happen in 500 days, let's say.
And the globalists knew about it.
Would they tell the people?
No.
They would never tell you.
You wouldn't know until you see it in the sky, a giant flaming mountain like in the Book of Revelation, you know.
The reason they wouldn't tell you is because the globalists need the infrastructure to function so they can continue to stockpile food and parts and fuel and all the things that they need on their private islands and underground cities and caves and everything.
Yeah, and honestly, I think the only way that this can be described as a thought experiment is if you're like, well, Mike's experimenting with thinking.
Yeah, so according to Mike, the globalists would never tell the public if an asteroid were going to collide with the Earth because they need infrastructure to continue to exist until the last minute so they can stockpile resources in their bunkers or whatever.
If they told people in the public that they had X amount of time before imminent demise, people would just stop working and spend time with their families, which would hurt the globalists' ability to get those last-minute supplies they apparently need in their bunkers.
Simultaneously, though, this entire show and Mike's initial point has to do with public messaging around the pandemic shifting to the globalists admitting that the vaccines don't work and that everyone's going to die.
According to Mike's own thought experiment, the globalists are acting in a way that they never would if a disaster truly were imminent.
This shit's about to go really bad.
And if that's the case, there would be stories about breakthrough cases and the Delta variant and stuff.
I don't understand.
And honestly, this stuff is the most infantile, nonsensical garbage.
But I do kind of like listening to this because...
Alex and him really seem like they're having a good time.
And, Alex, why do they not care that they are absolutely destroying the reputation of the CDC, the FDA, the vaccine industry, the WHO, and the Biden regime itself?
Answer, because none of those things exist in their plan in a few years.
So one of the things that we've been doing these episodes in 2003, and one of the reasons is I want to know if Alex thought he was fighting the literal devil in 2003.
And the reason that I want to know that is because he's made it abundantly clear that he does think that in the present.
Yes, the most likely scenario, and I've wargamed two primary scenarios of what I think is going to happen.
I'll share both of them with you here.
The first one is what I was talking about last break, where they're going to engineer a planned financial collapse, freezing of the entire global banking system, all transactions frozen, and then, of course, the dollar collapsing, and then this will unleash a humanitarian crisis, which will justify Biden calling for UN troops.
To come into the United States, actually, communist Chinese troops under the UN banner on, quote, humanitarian missions.
So that's scenario one, and in that scenario, it's just going to be door-to-door executions, COVID concentration camps, mass murder, and that's even for those who survived the vaccine, you're still going to be targeted for murder.
The thing about it is, isn't it like, you know, I get if you're listening to the show and sometimes you see a coincidental thing and they twist it and you're like, oh, maybe Alex is right about this sometimes or something like that.
But if you're listening to the show and you hear that, why aren't you just like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Because just divorce from any context.
You don't need any context for you to just listen to that and go, that doesn't make sense.
But in this scenario, they are trying to then save science and save the medical journals and save the vaccine industry and save the CDC by turning against Trump and putting all the blame on Trump.
Every major city in America, once this collapse kicks in, every city becomes a death zone, a war zone, lawless, chaos, looting, rape, every insanity that you can think of.
They will be unsurvivable.
And if you're not bugged out of a city already, or if you don't have a plan to bug out before this happens, it will become your tomb.
And growing up in rural Illinois to extremely religious parents is like, you get the constant drumbeat of stories of people who went away to college, who went away to the city, who moved to the city, and then they come back and they have all these different ideas and stuff.
And that's just because they meet non-white people.
So this was last December, and he did not die a month later.
He passed away in May of this year of an unrelated illness.
Alex is just fudging the details of this stuff because he knows that the reality of these stories isn't salacious enough to justify his absurd conjectures in calling this a fucking snuff film.
And from an article that I read about his passing, it was something he was incredibly proud of, being able to be a part of.
And it's just a real tragedy to see.
I mean, granted, Alex doesn't know his name, and he's not really besmirching his memory that much, but he is still using his death as a prop, and that's gross.
And it is like, okay, there's a sensational headline that I'm going to tease throughout the show that is broadcast on some radio stations, and then in order to actually cover the story or whatever, I'm going to force people to get it on my own platform, try and migrate some of this away from that into my own market, and maybe a part of that, I don't know if it is necessarily, but like...
I did notice when I went to his website that there's a lot more MyPillow ads on the website stuff.
Maybe not on the radio shows, but on his website.
Mike Lindell seems to be getting involved in advertising.
And then he talks to Mike Adams about bullshit forever, but they have fun.
He's talking to that weirdo from Canada who wanted to start a weird school, but he doesn't talk about the weird school, and then he doesn't have time to get to his stories.
I mean, it's just unacceptable if you imagine that he's serious about anything he's saying.
Like, if you actually think that he thinks there's value in getting these stories to people, then this is nonsensical.
But, on the other hand, if you recognize that he knows that the entertainment value is having Mike Adams scare people, then you kind of get the, like, oh, this is what drives sales as opposed to...
People being disappointed by news stories not living up to the way you're teasing them.