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Feb. 17, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#532: February 15, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see what Alex Jones is up to as Texas deals with an unprecedented winter storm, and as the Infowars studio deals with a power outage that threatens their ability to broadcast.

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alex jones
08:07
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dan friesen
25:29
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jordan holmes
12:32
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alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
Hey, everybody.
dan friesen
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan!
dan friesen
Workable dudes who like to drink novelty beverages in their own homes and sit around and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
It does appear that that is our plan for the time being right now, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, Jordan, we are recording this separately.
Probably the first actual episode that we've recorded over a distance.
It's a little bit weird.
jordan holmes
That remains to be seen as to whether or not it's an actual episode.
dan friesen
I set out with the intention of a regular episode-ish, kind of a mini-episode.
I don't want to, again, I want to stress to everybody that we're not going to have episodes every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, but that circumstances kind of demanded this week that we had to jump on the horse and get something together.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think that's a terrible idea.
dan friesen
But, simultaneously, we can't get together.
Because Chicago has waist-deep snow outside.
jordan holmes
It's bad.
It's really bad.
And I ran out of coffee.
I ran out of coffee last night, Dan.
So this morning, I was about to take the dogs out for a walk, and I always start a pot of coffee before I take the dogs out, and I realized in that moment I have none.
So I had to walk through close to a mile of waist-deep snow to get some coffee.
This is the most brutal morning I've ever had.
dan friesen
Yeah, I walked down to the grocery store because I needed some salad stuff for lunch, and it was just a dead zone.
There was nobody there.
It was fantastic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was...
I mean, other than the logistical problems that everyone's dealing with, the fact that there was no one at a grocery store was pretty nice.
jordan holmes
There are some advantages.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I guess my bright spot is that you and I are both doing relatively all right with this.
I mean, it was coming down.
All day, all night yesterday.
Just a disaster.
jordan holmes
Last night was...
It was one of the first times I've seen that kind of snowstorm, and I was like, man, I think I'm actually scared for Chicago.
Like, look, we get covered in snow.
That's fine.
But this one was like, oh shit, this one might be too much for us.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Whenever people start talking in feet, it's like, alright, hold on.
jordan holmes
You didn't say 16 inches, you said multiple feet.
That's trouble.
That's trouble.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the reason that we needed to jump on the old Zoom here and get an episode together was because Alex is also dealing with inclement weather.
He's got some, you know, Texas is seeing some unprecedented winter storms that are happening right now.
And Infowars Studio has been struck by the ice, the winter queen.
What's the name of the character in the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe?
jordan holmes
I think it's just the Ice Queen, yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
Well, anyway, Alex wants some Turkish delight.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Okay.
Running out of references.
We'll stop.
jordan holmes
Let's just name all of the...
dan friesen
Voyage of the Don Treader.
Boy and his horse.
Horse and his boy.
Sorry.
Silver Chair.
Prince Caspian.
unidentified
Silver Chair.
dan friesen
Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Did I say Voyage of the Dawn Treader?
I think I said that first.
jordan holmes
You're missing two of them.
You're missing the final two.
dan friesen
The Magician's Apprentice?
jordan holmes
Oh, close!
dan friesen
The Sorcerer's Apprentice.
jordan holmes
Oh, real close!
dan friesen
The Magician's Nephew.
Yes!
jordan holmes
There you go!
What's the last one?
dan friesen
I think I forgot.
jordan holmes
I think it's just the last battle.
dan friesen
Oh, that's probably it.
Very boring.
jordan holmes
It's a really boring book.
dan friesen
Can't believe I forgot The Magician's Nephew.
unidentified
What a stupid name for a book.
jordan holmes
And you know what?
I think that one's always been my favorite.
I always liked that one.
The little rings that they go into the little middle of the world to teleport thing.
Always fun.
dan friesen
I read the hell out of those books, and I don't think I remember the plot of any of the, at least the last four of them.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, that's fine.
That is totally fine.
Magician's Nephew is the prequel, though, and that's why I've always liked it.
It's the prequel to Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
So it's like the Tokyo Drift.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yes.
Yes, before the main characters die.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, Jordan...
We got, you know, some Alex Jones stupidity to deal with.
There'll be a little bit of a briefer episode, but I wanted to check in with how he's doing in Occupied by Ice Austin.
But before we do that, Jordan, let's take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Bill W., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thanks, Bill.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Bill.
dan friesen
Next, Jordan S., not Jordan H. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jordan.
Great name.
dan friesen
Ooh, look at that.
jordan holmes
Ah, there we go.
dan friesen
You're playing on my side of the street.
Next, Nicholas B. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Nicholas.
dan friesen
Next, Andrew A. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Andrew.
jordan holmes
Thank you, AA.
dan friesen
Next, Amelia R. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Amelia.
dan friesen
And finally, Drox.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Drox!
dan friesen
You want to say hi to Drox?
Maybe a hi to Drox?
jordan holmes
I saw it.
I saw that joke coming.
dan friesen
A mile away.
jordan holmes
I tried to duck, and you still hit me in the face with it.
So, that happens.
dan friesen
Well, sorry.
I have cookies on the mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think we've got one more little piece of...
Oh, do we?
I think we've got one more little piece of...
We're getting into this place of...
We're just shouting people out for no reason at this point.
unidentified
No reason?
jordan holmes
We have one reason for this particular shout-out.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
We have one particular reason, and that is it is their anniversary today, I believe.
Bonnie and Eric...
Happy 20th wedding anniversary for, yeah, Wednesday the 17th.
20 years, Dan.
dan friesen
That's exciting.
That's the piano anniversary, right?
The 20th is the piano?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
First is paper, second is like silver.
No, wait, that's much later.
You know, the customary gifts thing that you're supposed to give on anniversaries.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
20th is pianos.
I hope you guys exchanged pianos.
jordan holmes
That would be the right way to do it.
This is taking me back to my hosting stand-up comedy days.
I like to do, you know, you start out every show at Zany's with, hey, anybody celebrating anything tonight?
dan friesen
The difference here is that people have told us that they're celebrating something as opposed to us starting the show having to fish for something.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
It is different.
dan friesen
It's more celebratory, less sad.
So, Jordan, on the 16th, or maybe it was yesterday, I think it was the 15th, actually, Alex put out a series of short vignettes of himself at the Infowars studio.
Lights are out in the studio.
There's also a couple of them where he's outside yelling in the snow.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, that just makes sense, though.
dan friesen
It's a load of nonsense, and we're going to talk about it.
But first, here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
If a dog starts running at you, don't be scared.
Yell at it.
Throw rocks at it.
It'll run off most of the time if you're not on this property.
dan friesen
Whoa, dogs know about property rights.
jordan holmes
Wow, that's the plan.
That's the trick.
Dogs are very interested in borders.
They don't like immigration from house to house.
That's the situation there.
dan friesen
Dogs are libertarians.
They're part of the Austrian school.
jordan holmes
I feel like this is just Alex, like, protecting other people from his mistakes.
You know, he's hurt so many dogs because he was afraid of them.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And now he's sharing his wisdom with the rest of the world.
Hey, guys, it's bad to be a dog murderer.
dan friesen
Just throw a rock at the dog.
That's fine.
jordan holmes
That's enough.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't shoot too hard.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're here recording on Tuesday, and as the time of this episode being put together, InfoWars has essentially been off air since Sunday evening.
jordan holmes
Cancel culture!
dan friesen
Austin and most of Texas is dealing with a once-in-a-lifetime winter storm that has left countless people without power in severe conditions.
It appears that the Infowars studio has been left also without power, and that means no show for Alex.
It makes sense, and I don't think anyone would bat an eye if he just got on air and said that there was a weather emergency and they had to take an unplanned break in programming.
It could be an effective way to push emergency food sales even, so it might not end up being a total money loss if he did that.
But Alex does not go that route.
Instead of just expressing solidarity with the people of Texas, encouraging people to stay inside if possible, and donating to a mutual aid fund, Alex decided to record a video of himself at the Infowars studio with the lights off, explaining how power outages are actually a globalist conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Really?
We had to get there, huh?
I would prefer a scalar attack.
I want a scalar attack.
I want aliens if we're going to do this.
dan friesen
Globalist conspiracy.
We'll get to the specifics of this, but right off the bat, I wanted to explain why Alex feels the need to make this conspiracy instead of just being a normal kind of thing.
You're a human.
You accept that inclement weather happens and sometimes it gets in the way.
jordan holmes
I have a reason that he might want this to be a conspiracy.
Let's see if it's on my list.
I'm just going to go with mainly one of the large contributors to this disaster being so much worse is his state.
Actually being interested in following the policies that he himself advocates for.
dan friesen
Alright, I'm going to cross number four off the list.
That was number four.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
The first reason is that Alex has a vested interest in infantilizing his audience.
He needs their critical thinking skills to be on a child's level, so whenever he has the chance, he creates childish narratives.
When you're in bed and you hear a bump, you could either think that it's the water heater, or you could think it's a Viking who's invaded your house to come and get you.
Adults are really capable, you know, they're able to reason it out that there's no reason a Viking would be in your home, but for children, their minds gravitate to the more exciting possibilities, which is often nonsense, but it appeals to a particular emotional need and a drive that children have.
jordan holmes
Quick question, are we, is it around like 860 AD, in which case it is a terrifying time for Viking?
dan friesen
Time travel is possible.
You have a time-traveling water heater.
Knowing that the noise is the water heater doesn't prompt an irrational response in a person.
They can ignore it, or if it's a serious noise, they can choose to call a technician.
If you can convince people, though, that it's actually a Viking who almost got them, you might be able to sell them all sorts of products to protect against Vikings or even documentaries where you explain how Vikings operate and how to avoid their attack plans.
Keeping the audience in a state where they don't deal with the problems that come up in a boring but ultimately real way and keeping them fixated on childish emotional interpretations of every stimulus they receive is essential for Alex's business model.
So even a giant storm...
Absolutely.
The second reason that Alex has a strong interest in presenting this storm as some kind of an act of foul play is that it's really something that just happens in nature, and if so, he should have been prepared for it.
His brand is largely built around being a prepper type of guy, so the first question that comes up in the case of his network being taken offline by a storm is naturally, why weren't you prepared for that?
A winter storm like this hitting Texas is obviously a very unlikely event.
And something that the infrastructure was unprepared for.
And my heart goes out to everyone who's dealing with the consequences of it.
But for Alex, the fact that he could be caught off guard by a natural event, that's a contradiction of the way he wants the audience to see him.
jordan holmes
You're supposed to be prepared for the literal end of the world.
I would imagine that includes some sort of the power grid going down, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
You touched on the fourth one, which is the state of Texas and how they operate.
And we'll talk about that a little bit down the line.
The third issue is a storm like this brings into sharp focus some of the elements of the climate change conversation that Alex doesn't want people to think about.
As the climate changes and weather events become more severe, they're going to test longstanding assumptions about infrastructure and how we build.
For instance, houses are designed differently in different parts of the country.
Like in California, they prioritize earthquake protection.
Whereas in Missouri, where I grew up, every single family home that you're going to find has a basement because of tornadoes.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, you know, basements are less prevalent in flood-prone regions.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Florida is not known for having tons of basements that are literally underneath the swamp.
dan friesen
Yeah, and as, you know, different sorts of weather patterns and more severe storms hit different areas, you're going to see those things, the long-standing assumptions that we've had.
Not be enough to suffice.
And Alex doesn't want the audience to think about that.
Because it requires shifting ideas and paradigms, and he's not into that.
jordan holmes
Of course.
I have a plan.
Here's my plan.
Because as shifting weather patterns are going to test our assumptions and our architecture, what if...
Now, and hear me out.
We've got a lot of real estate.
Now, admittedly, it is being held right now, but if you go underneath the Getty, all right, no problems with weather issues, no problems with, you know, all that stuff, you go under there, you knock out a few Nazis, and then you got a home for life, Dan!
dan friesen
There is essentially a city under the Getty Museum, if we are to believe the people we've heard from.
jordan holmes
We got space down there!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, um...
You know, these are the kind of things that are essential for Alex to have his audience not think about.
Like, wait, this is a natural storm.
This is bad, but, you know, you should have known that it was a possibility.
You were not prepared for this.
You got caught on your back foot.
Weird.
Maybe I shouldn't trust you about everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, instead of a conspiracy, maybe go, like, no conspiracy, buy snow tires, just in case.
dan friesen
Sure.
Well, you know, it kind of felt like that was the direction he was going to go on Sunday after obsessing about the traffic accidents.
But it turns out not.
Turns out that Alex is in the Great Reset, and that is why the power is out at Infowars Studios.
jordan holmes
Pitch me on this.
alex jones
Our power has been turned off 40% of the state without power this morning.
All the Great Reset.
I told my wife that this morning.
I told my security people that.
And then my head security guy walks up and goes, here's the Austin American statesman admitting that since they shut down the coal plants in Texas under Obama, the windmills in West Texas failed.
And the power may be off for a week or longer.
Rolling blackouts.
Because coal is evil.
So here we are at InfoHorse, and we have to open the windows up to have light.
Here, let me give you a tour real quick.
dan friesen
So, Alex wants to pretend that the wind turbines freezing in Texas is what caused the blackouts, but that is absolutely not true.
From an article in Bloomberg, quote, While ICE has forced some turbines to shut down as the brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that's been the least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state's power grid.
The main factors, frozen instruments at natural gas, coal, and even nuclear facilities, As well as limited supplies of natural gas, he said.
The article goes on to quote Daniel Cohen, an associate professor of environmental engineering at Rice University, who said that it, quote, is really a red herring to blame renewable energy production for the blackouts.
If the wind turbines were operating at full capacity, things would still be bad because of the infrastructure of Texas's power grid and how it was unprepared to deal with a weather event like this.
Alex doesn't want to address that point because it's real, and it requires calling in a technician.
He would rather blame imaginary Vikings.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, you have to pay for a technician.
You have to pay for maintaining your power grid.
You have to pay for all of this stuff.
But if it's the imaginary globalists, somehow they're paying Alex.
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the way to do it.
dan friesen
So, Alex doesn't quite understand the conversation that a lot of people are having surrounding climate issues.
And we heard this kind of position be expressed when he was on Rogan's show.
This idea that, like, everybody wants, like, there to be no carbon.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
alex jones
Here we are watching the most high-tech, clean-burning coal plants in the world.
That nothing comes out of carbon dioxide and water vapor.
And they shut them down.
Trump stopped the shutdowns, but Obama had already shut down thousands, over 100 in Texas.
And then I'm reading the Austin American Statesman, and they admit...
The whole thing.
And say, this is green energy, but it's worth it.
Folks, this is the new dark age.
dan friesen
I didn't see that in the Austin American Statesman article.
And he just doesn't understand the issues of, like, it's excess carbon dioxide.
It's not like there will be no carbon dioxide in the world.
I don't think that anyone would advocate for that.
jordan holmes
No, this is a child going, okay, what?
So I eat 35 apples a day?
You want nobody to have any apples?
Zero apples then, huh?
Oh, you're saying I should have a moderate amount?
unidentified
Fuck you!
jordan holmes
You want to take apples away from the honest working man!
I don't know why that's a six-year-old kid, but...
dan friesen
Yeah, it's creating a false argument.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's stupid.
dan friesen
And Alex is able to do that because he's a climate scientist, basically.
alex jones
Oxygen and carbon dioxide are trace gases.
Trace gases.
And if you look at the graph of the Earth, it was a lot hotter in the last few hundred thousand years and then was going down and now has gone up a tiny bit.
Yes, we've raised the temperature like maybe half a degree.
And thank God, that's us terraforming it in a good way, unknowingly.
dan friesen
Wow.
He knows a lot.
He's very insightful on these things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Also, oxygen is specifically not a trace gas.
jordan holmes
No, it's a trace gas.
There's only, like, what?
Zero percent of oxygen in the atmosphere?
unidentified
Nothing.
dan friesen
And saying that CO2 is a trace gas is meaningless in this context, because the message he's seeming to suggest is that there's so little of it that we should just make more.
That's dumb.
Ammonia is also a trace gas, but I think that Alex would realize you don't want a ton of it in the air because of obvious reasons.
jordan holmes
All right, you're making a good point, but have you ever walked near a volcano and just breathed in pure sulfur dioxide?
That's the good stuff.
That's what gets you breathing real good, you know?
That's what you want in the atmosphere.
dan friesen
It's a trace gas.
We shouldn't limit the amount of sulfur dioxide.
jordan holmes
Don't you want to chew your air?
dan friesen
Oh, so good that we raised the temperature.
So good.
Yeah, terraforming.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I think at this point, if you're a climate denier, it has to be like, I think I can wait out the clock.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
You know, like, there's no way Alex isn't, like, at a certain point, like, oh, shit, the climate really is fucked.
I can't ignore this anymore.
But I'll probably be off the air by the time people want to really hold me accountable for it.
So fuck it, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, it could be.
I mean, there has to be a certain amount of I'm not going to have to pay the fiddler.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
There's another part.
With Alex, though, I really do think that he is just, like...
Dumb.
He is just not interested, and someone has explained it to him in such a way that, like, oh, hey, the power plants are totally clean, and he's never seen fit to have to look into it, because why would he?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I just don't know.
How stupid do you have to be?
To just believe that on, like, a gullibility scale.
I wouldn't trust a coal plant if I walked through, like, the people who run coal are demonstrably evil and have been for 150 years!
dan friesen
Yeah, but they also tend to politically align with the sort of things that Alex is into, you know, generally.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure!
dan friesen
He's inclined to trust them, even though maybe on some level.
I mean, he does...
Fucking Darth Vader impressions all the time.
That's fair.
He thinks that the dark side is the good people.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So Alex is inside in the hallway at this point in the video, and he now tells us, we're going to go outside.
Let's go outside.
alex jones
Let's go outside and show you.
Bill Gates wanting to, quote, block out the sun and look where we're at in a frickin' frozen tundra with the power off!
Freezing our asses off like serfs!
That's 21st century war.
That's the Great Reset.
And the Great Reset has cut the power off in Texas.
dan friesen
He has not established that.
He did not demonstrate this in any way.
No.
jordan holmes
Wind turbines?
Real cold.
Cold.
Destroyed by Obama.
unidentified
See?
jordan holmes
It's the Great Reset.
dan friesen
I mean, you could say those things, but it doesn't mean anything.
It's no connection to reality, really.
jordan holmes
No, if it was destroyed by Obama, it's the Great Reset's fault, Dan.
Do you understand?
dan friesen
Yeah, sure.
So, Alex goes outside, and he's just a man yelling in the snow.
He is hanging out with a snow backdrop.
Being mad.
And I think this is really interesting because if you take him at his word, he seems to be lamenting the Industrial Revolution and how it made it so we don't have to make our own power or something that made us soft.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Modern society is great in many ways, but it's domesticated as it's made as very dependent on the system.
And the average American, the average person in the industrialized world, flips on a light switch and just expects power.
Or they pull into the gas station and they expect gasoline.
Or they go to the grocery store and they expect that fresh food is going to be flown in or trucked in to where they're at, even in the winter.
People have been taken away from the land and have been made very, very soft.
Myself included.
But at least I know that that's going on.
dan friesen
I don't understand what he's complaining about.
We're so soft because we expect there to be power when we have all agreed to collectively pay for a power company to take care of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, one, hello Unabomber, it's been a while since we've talked.
And two, no, I think it's far worse.
Look, if you and I want to say we're unaware that technology has domesticated us and we have moved away from the land and then act like that, that's fine.
But if we are aware of it and don't take steps to avoid it and instead only tell other people to do it, we're hypocritical pieces of shit you shouldn't listen to.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
His pretending that, like, at least I know is, yeah, it does make it way worse.
It's way worse.
Yeah, you should be not...
Putting out little tiny videos.
You should be underground somewhere, maybe.
jordan holmes
Rejoin the land.
dan friesen
If you want to broadcast, you should not ever have inclement weather get in the way because you should have a ton of generators and you should be broadcasting from a compound somewhere that no one knows where it is and you got a bunch of potatoes growing so you don't have to worry about anybody.
jordan holmes
Hello, Unabomber.
It's been a long time since we've talked.
dan friesen
It is strange, although it is a really interesting thing that Alex is like, okay, so our uplinks are in another state, so they still have power.
So what we have to do is we have to shoot these little videos and then send them over somewhere else.
And then he's got an elaborate system to get little tiny videos out, which is just kind of...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's great.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like you should just not do this.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Take the day off!
dan friesen
It's a snow day.
That's my feeling about it.
And the argument that he's making is so not compelling that I don't even know why you bother.
Why try to make this a conspiracy?
Just stay home.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
You don't need to risk driving.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah, but on the other hand, he could risk other people's lives and still probably make it to work, which is maybe his favorite thing to do.
dan friesen
Yeah, sure.
And I mean, there's employees there, too.
It's not like he's alone at the studio, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Even better.
jordan holmes
I wonder if his wife is still playing tennis today.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex, I mean, I think the reason he's doing this is because he wants to gloat.
Because he saw this coming.
He knew what was gonna happen.
alex jones
These guys have written about every damn bit of it.
How do you think I could make a film 13, 14 years ago called Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, and you watch the damn film and almost all of it's come true?
Because I show their quotes and their statements.
And they think you deserve to have this done to you, what's now unfolding, because you're not fighting back.
They all have private jets.
They all got a bunch of kids.
They all have palatial mansions.
They all live however they want, have huge yachts.
They're telling you, when Obama goes to Africa, that you can't have a car, you can't have an air conditioning.
dan friesen
That's a lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's an old, old, fun lie that he, I guess, the snow pulled out of his little brain.
But, like, this is nonsense.
And I'm starting to get feelings of almost, like, stolen valor on his, like, his part of, like, being right about things.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
I resent that he's just pointing to Endgame and being like, I was right about everything.
You should go and rewatch your own work.
This is not good.
jordan holmes
No, here's the worst part, okay?
Endgame was a large amount about a road that...
Had it been built, would probably have ameliorated a lot of problems they are currently experiencing.
So not only was he not right about that, it should have been built so he didn't have to deal with it today.
dan friesen
I'm not positive that the road would have helped as much as you think, but...
jordan holmes
It was a really big road, though.
dan friesen
It was pretty big.
jordan holmes
It was pretty big!
dan friesen
Yeah, and also Alex does need to do this show not only to gloat about how he was right, though he wasn't, he also needs to make an announcement.
There are new numbers out.
The new numbers.
Do you know what these numbers are?
jordan holmes
Quirking?
Is Quirking a new number?
dan friesen
No.
It's not.
No, no.
Hold on.
jordan holmes
It's not brand new numbers.
dan friesen
You misunderstood.
No.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I have not discovered a new number.
jordan holmes
I was just checking to see if maybe they discovered a new number.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You never know.
dan friesen
I recognize that that's a fair interpretation of what I said.
It is not correct.
So the globalists, right?
For a long time, they had claims of how many people they were going to kill.
They were going to kill a bunch.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
There's new numbers.
jordan holmes
There's two numbers.
alex jones
Don't just keep pretending like you're part of the establishment going along with this.
That's why they always thought, oh, we're going to get rid of half the world population in the 70s.
And then later, well, once we set up real government, it'll be about 80%.
But the good people will still be around to guard the earth.
Now they publicly say 90% will be exterminated.
And the new numbers are down to 1% of world population.
unidentified
Oh!
alex jones
You've been taught to hate yourselves.
You've been isolated.
Big tech media is designed.
They admit...
To make you depressed.
To make you alone.
You are under a reclamation program to remove you and build a new world.
You are under a culling program.
They've decided to dynamite us.
They've decided to remove us.
They've decided to blot us out like you destroy a building with a wrecking ball.
So at least admit what's happening to you and recognize what's happening to you as it happens.
And realize that the inhuman, degenerate, scumbag, filth, and garbage that is carrying this out.
and doing this.
All lives lavish lifestyles are all completely wicked and hateful.
Most of their children commit suicide.
They're totally disconnected from God.
And they are ruthless scum that only have a will to dominate and control others.
And if you lay down to them, you allow them to hurt other innocents.
And you cut yourself off from God, so don't be part of it.
dan friesen
And that's why we need to primary weak Republicans.
jordan holmes
I'm confused.
Is this not okay?
All right.
alex jones
You need to take back the house.
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
This is so inciting.
It's just nonsense.
But it's also just an idiot standing in the snow yelling for no reason.
jordan holmes
This is kind of...
It's kind of a preview of what his life is going to be like in 10 years.
dan friesen
The visual of it is really jarring because it is like...
I mean, it's Alex Jones, so he's this notable firebrand ding-dong idiot.
But it's also a complete impotence that he's showing because he's just standing in the snow.
Yelling about his enemies.
jordan holmes
No, he's an apocalypse preacher.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also how little import or meaning is there to him being like there's new numbers that 99% of the population is going to be killed.
Like, okay, now you can't make it smaller or like the survivor number smaller.
Like you have just backed yourself into a corner where it's like, okay, now 100%.
This doesn't mean anything.
You're just making up numbers and now you've gotten to the end of the line.
There's no more numbers.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that there are quarterly extermination reports.
You know, like, every quarter there's new numbers.
Like, oh, no, no, no.
We were going to kill 99% at the end of the first quarter, but now relooking things into the second quarter, we're projecting a 97% murder.
dan friesen
Some weirdo like Daniel Estelin calls Alex and is like, at Bilderberg, they were saying that it's 99 now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
There was a faction.
They were saying 98. But they lost in the end.
jordan holmes
The negotiations were fraught.
dan friesen
Yes.
All fell apart.
So, not to spend too much time talking about why he's standing in the snow, Alex decides, now time to yell about the vaccines.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
There is hope.
As I said.
Merck had to pull their vaccine three weeks ago because it was making people sick and killing them.
And they admitted that even if you take it, it doesn't protect you.
They recommended you just get COVID and get over it.
And it was a scam.
Huge move.
They got scared and said, this is too evil.
jordan holmes
That would be a huge move.
alex jones
South Africa banned the vaccine, making people sick and killing them.
Australia had to ban their vaccine that they put out because it was giving people HIV positive stuff.
India just banned the mRNA Pfizer shot.
dan friesen
HIV stuff.
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Most of that shit we've covered in the past in episodes, it's all nonsense.
The India one, though, is a new narrative, so I wanted to just clarify why India didn't approve the use of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine.
It was reported by CNBC back on February 5th that Pfizer had withdrawn their application for emergency use of their vaccine in India after, quote, the government in January approved two much cheaper shots.
There were a couple of other hurdles, namely that India requires local studies to be done to approve vaccine use, and the studies of Pfizer's vaccines had not been done in India.
The second issue is that vaccine, the one that they had created, the Pfizer one, it requires storage in very cold conditions, which creates a concern about the ability for it to be rolled out all over India.
You know, there's concerns about the supply of deep freeze capabilities.
Alex is pretending that they banned it because it's dangerous, when in reality, it's really just kind of a boring logistics issue.
Again, this is a water heater noise Alex is trying to tell you is a Viking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's like India being like, listen guys, we're going to have to ban the import of snowballs.
Now, I know they don't get far once they get across the border, but we just can't let this happen anymore.
dan friesen
There are cheaper options that will do the same thing that a snowball does, and we'll go with those.
So, Alex, still being dumb, starts talking about how Texas used to supply everyone with power.
alex jones
They admit that they have shut our power systems down so much that we can't even provide power in the summer and the winter in the great state of Texas that up until 10 years ago was supplying power to 15 states.
And was doing an incredible job, but we've been shut down.
dan friesen
That's a complete lie.
Texas is a unique state in the country in terms of their power grid, and it's actually one of the reasons that the situation in the state now is so much more complicated.
Texas is the only state in the country that has its own completely autonomous power grid called ERCOT, which is run by the Electric Reliability Council of Texas.
Houston Public Media recently posted a very concise explanation of how the system works and how it got to be the way it is, which I will paraphrase now.
jordan holmes
It doesn't, and they fucked it up.
dan friesen
When electricity started to become more prevalent, the country saw utility companies begin to combine and link up and create regional things.
In 1935, FDR signed the Federal Power Act, which charged the Federal Power Commission with overseeing interstate electricity sales.
The federal government could only really get involved with regulating interstate power exchanges.
So, in order to avoid that regulation, Texas has remained the only state in the country with its own power grid.
This has been breached a few times, notably in 1976 when a Texas power company sent power to Oklahoma very briefly in what's been called the, quote, Midnight Connection.
Alex is completely making up that the state of Texas formally provided energy to 15 states.
I suspect that he doesn't even know that his state's energy setup is the way it is and how some of the problems he's complaining about are the direct byproduct of his state following his own anti-federal government paranoias.
It's kind of embarrassing.
jordan holmes
I would argue that he has no idea how it works and assumes that because everybody else does it differently, it's their fault.
Despite not knowing how he does it.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
And, you know, it's really weird to me.
Because it should be a point of pride to him that the Texas doesn't supply power to other states and other states don't supply power to them.
It should be like, this is...
Rugged individual pre-industrial revolution.
We are not pacified.
jordan holmes
We mine our own coal, we burn our own coal, and that's what we fucking do!
dan friesen
He's instead choosing the more attractive narrative to him, which is that Obama made it so Texas doesn't supply most of the country with electricity.
Somehow it's still...
The anti-Obama, pro-coal kind of narratives take precedence.
Over his state's rights jacking off, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think that depends on the day, too.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I would also argue that in this circumstance, Alex is, I guess, trapped?
You know, like, everything that he says is going to be wrong.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because the reality of it is, like...
This is all fucked up beyond reason because, you know, we made choices to get at this place.
dan friesen
I think that Alex might be literally trapped as well.
His wife might be driving the Audi, so he might be stuck at the studio.
jordan holmes
Might as well scream on the street, I'm not going anywhere until five.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets to rambling about some other stuff, and I found this particular thought that he has a little bit upsetting.
This has to do with the storming of the Capitol.
alex jones
Because the globalists fear what you saw at the Capitol.
It was a few hundred that got the big mass to do it.
The globalists provocateur it, had security stand down, so that what they feared in the future could be discredited now.
A million people in D.C. with a serious mission to take over and overthrow an illegitimate government is powerful.
dan friesen
Okay, so what I'm hearing is the globalists are afraid of what happened on the 6th, and so they did the 6th in order to make sure that Alex couldn't do it better later.
jordan holmes
Yes, you are correct.
That is exactly what happened.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
And Alex's point, I believe, is that a few million people overrunning the Capitol, that's a W, guys.
That means we win this one.
A few hundred people were fucked.
So, yeah, I think he's really against the principles of what happened on the 6th.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's become quite clear that now he realizes he's not going to get arrested or anything.
He can sort of subtly just chill out.
jordan holmes
Hey, guys, guys, two weeks from now, anybody not busy, two weeks.
That's when we got to get a couple million.
Two weeks.
dan friesen
So, we know that Alex is a scholar on the matter of Carbon dioxide, climate change, World War II.
Alex does, he seems to think this, I've heard him say this before, and that's why I wanted to play this again, because it's such a dumb thought that I'm surprised he repeats this multiple times.
It's clearly something he actually believes, and that is that people are only afraid of carbon dioxide because it sounds like carbon monoxide.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is very bad.
alex jones
The sun is energy.
It drives almost all of our climate.
Light, carbon dioxide, oxygen, and water is the carbon cycle.
And if you take any of those, you have death on the planet.
Well, people know water's good.
Folks know oxygen's good.
And they know the sun's good.
So what is it they attack?
Carbon dioxide.
Because it sounds like monoxide.
Penn& Teller did it 20 years ago.
I did it 15 years ago.
We ought to go out and do it again.
You go out, you give people the name of water scientific, 95% say ban it.
And we talked to over 100 people and only a few went, wait a minute.
We're like, dihydrogen monoxide, it's everywhere, it's toxic.
If you drink too much of it, it can kill you.
They're like, yes, I agree, we should ban that.
That's water.
Even better.
99% of the studies we did out interviewing the public, unofficial studies, if you give them the name of table salt, oh my god, it sounds like Satan.
I mean, Table Salt has a really scary name, and the average person will come to you and will say, let's ban that.
dan friesen
Alex couldn't remember the name of Table Salt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, why didn't you say it then, if you're so proud of knowing what it is?
dan friesen
Jordan, I hate to say a demonic word here, but sodium chloride.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out!
Get the fuck out!
dan friesen
Sir!
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
You guys can't see this.
Jordan is doing a cross, the sign of a cross.
Yeah.
Here's what I would argue.
jordan holmes
I might be crazy.
I might be crazy, but I'm going to toss this out for you, Dan.
I think somebody who knows what dihydrogen monoxide is, yet believes that the president is secretly controlled by the devil, is still dumber than somebody who thinks things are what they are, but is like, just say what?
Yeah, that's my belief.
dan friesen
And I think that, you know, leaving all that aside, you know, you may be right, you may be wrong, but my conjecture is anybody who thinks one of these kinds of studies of the public means anything is a dick.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
dan friesen
And they don't have much going on.
jordan holmes
You don't remember the greatest pollster?
Before there was 538, Dan, there was Jay Leno.
And when you do jaywalking, you get the right results.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Ah, I tricked you.
Scientific poll.
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we just got one last clip here, and I mean, the report ends with Alex sitting in a dark studio, and it actually ends with him yelling about how the New World Order is going down, and just the visual of it, of him sitting in a completely dark studio.
jordan holmes
That is like a review!
That is Andy Daly in the end of a review!
It is exactly that!
He's like, guys, why is everybody leaving?
What's going on?
dan friesen
Yeah, if I didn't hate him so much, there'd be a little bit of pathos in the moment of him sitting alone in a dark studio, insisting he was going to destroy the globalists.
But I choose not to end our episode with that clip because, honestly, it's angry.
It's kind of funny to think about, but it's meaningless compared to this.
This clip, I think, says everything that you need to know.
alex jones
I understand the average person doesn't read 300 books on World War II.
unidentified
Correct.
alex jones
I understand the average person doesn't read 100 books on Rome.
Correct.
unidentified
The average person doesn't read 50. Correct.
alex jones
I disagree.
jordan holmes
I disagree.
alex jones
The Civil War or a couple hundred books on globalism and Professor Earl Quigley and Zbigniew Brzezinski and...
Klaus Schwab.
But I did.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
And so I know who these people are.
Just because I happened to get into it when I was like nine years old.
Because these books were laying all over my house.
And so, I had a piece of chip earlier.
That's why I keep licking my lips.
Because all the stores are closed.
There's no food.
The grocery stores are all closed.
So I went down and got the crew some food, got some potato chips and some candy bars.
That's about all we get right now because the power's off because the government shut the power off by shutting the power plants down.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's a good summation of Alex, just bragging about books he's read that he hasn't read.
What hundred books are about Klaus Schwab?
Get the fuck out of here.
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
He's just rambling about how well-read he is and he's not like normal people because he's figured all this out because he's so smart and read all this shit.
And then he gets completely derailed by a chip.
Just, oh, I ate a chip earlier.
unidentified
That's all we get now, because the power's out, man!
jordan holmes
The greatest minds of my generation.
I saw it taken down by a little chip in the tooth.
dan friesen
For want of a toothpick, the greatest minds of my generation have been torn asunder.
unidentified
Yeah, this is bleak.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
So, I...
Yeah, I just wanted to check in with you and let you know how things were going for Alex, and it turns out this is how it's going.
Last we know of him at the time that we're recording this, he's just sitting alone in a dark studio, and no telling when he'll be back.
jordan holmes
I do like the idea of somebody showing up at the office tomorrow, turning the lights off, and Alex is just sitting at the desk.
Just like, eyes haven't blunked for 20 hours.
dan friesen
He's actually wearing a tie.
unidentified
Yeah.
He's more put together than usual.
jordan holmes
I slept in the office for the first time in a long time.
It feels really great.
dan friesen
Guys, I don't know if you know this, but you can read in the dark.
Probably have better comprehension of stuff than he does at this point.
jordan holmes
Guys, I started reading books with my hands, even if they aren't in Braille.
I'm figuring it out, man.
dan friesen
I'm really doing it this time.
Did you know that Klaus Schwab didn't say all the stuff I said he says?
jordan holmes
We're going to be in real trouble if people find that out.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
Oh, no.
So, Jordan, we'll be back on Friday, but until then, We have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to Ben Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook!
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
I hope the best for everybody going through tough times with the weather all around the country.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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