Knowledge Fight - #432: May 10-11, 2020
Aired: 2020-05-13
Duration: 01:59:59


=== Thanks Much, Policy Wonk (08:42) ===

[00:00:21]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:30]  Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
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[00:00:48]  You're on the air.
[00:00:48]  Thanks for holding.
[00:00:49]  Hello, Alex.
[00:00:50]  I'm a first-time caller.
[00:00:51]  I'm a huge fan.
[00:00:51]  I love your world.
[00:00:53]  Knowledge Fight.
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[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody.
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:01]  We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:06]  Indeed we are, Dan.
[00:01:07]  Jordan.
[00:01:07]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Quick question.
[00:01:09]  What's your bright spot today?
[00:01:10]  I don't know.
[00:01:11]  You go first.
[00:01:12]  My bright spot, Dan, is Dennis Rodman.
[00:01:15]  I know you were texting me about watching The Last Dance.
[00:01:19]  Yeah, I broke down.
[00:01:20]  I'd been avoiding it.
[00:01:22]  And finally I was like, I need sports so bad I'll watch a documentary.
[00:01:25]  And of course I fucking loved it because I'm a huge Chicago Bulls fan.
[00:01:28]  Sure, how could you not be?
[00:01:29]  You're a man of a certain age.
[00:01:31]  Exactly!
[00:01:32]  And I remember specifically loving Dennis Rodman so much, but I was only like...
[00:01:38]  8 to 10 at the time.
[00:01:40]  And I remember all of the anti- just queer identity stuff that I got from my moralizing- Like him marrying himself and whatever.
[00:01:50]  Yeah, just everybody with this whole like, oh, you can't do that and all that shit.
[00:01:54]  And then I'm watching the documentary and I'm remembering, man, everybody did him wrong and he was fucking awesome.
[00:02:00]  I love Dennis Rodman so much.
[00:02:02]  Enough to undo his run in the WCW and how he's friends with Kim Jong-un.
[00:02:06]  Yeah, why not?
[00:02:08]  Kim Jong-un isn't even sure of anymore.
[00:02:11]  I love Dennis Rodman.
[00:02:12]  All right.
[00:02:13]  Maybe not now, but in the 90s, man, that guy was amazing.
[00:02:16]  He was a very interesting character.
[00:02:17]  Love him.
[00:02:18]  Part of those rough-and-tumble Detroit Pistons with Bill Landy.
[00:02:22]  Oh, yeah.
[00:02:23]  Best on-ball defender and rebounder that anybody had ever seen.
[00:02:27]  No doubt about it.
[00:02:28]  No clue how good he was.
[00:02:30]  I guess my bright spot is there's been some nice recommendations from people about various seltzers to try, and I'm thrilled that people are getting in on the act.
[00:02:41]  And simultaneously, I'd like to thank some of the people who have had dissenting opinions.
[00:02:47]  About not liking seltzer, but also still being cool with the fact that I've embarked down this weird road.
[00:02:53]  I appreciate both of these responses that people are having.
[00:02:57]  Because they're tolerant of my nonsense.
[00:03:01]  So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
[00:03:04]  We're going to be talking about May 10th and 11th, 2020.
[00:03:07]  I'm Dan, this is 2020.
[00:03:09]  That is Sunday and Monday of this week.
[00:03:11]  I kind of hope to throw Tuesday in as well.
[00:03:13]  Keep us super up to date.
[00:03:16]  Couldn't do it.
[00:03:16]  It was just too much.
[00:03:17]  There is so much going on on these episodes, and Alex is wrong about so much in so many different ways.
[00:03:23]  Well, that's exciting.
[00:03:24]  Yeah, it's actually remarkably fascinating to me how many different ways he can be wrong.
[00:03:31]  Yeah, it's a master class.
[00:03:33]  Yes, more or less.
[00:03:34]  He's going to teach you how to cook and be wrong about things.
[00:03:36]  Yeah, I love it.
[00:03:37]  And we'll get down to business on that, but before we do, we've got to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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[00:05:14]  So, Jordan, um...
[00:05:16]  We got to do a little bit of an update on the year of the seltzer.
[00:05:19]  Of course.
[00:05:19]  But I should also say that, speaking of knowledgefight.com and people who are supporting the show, I believe sometime today, on Wednesday, as you're listening to this episode...
[00:05:29]  There should be a part one of a Q&A series.
[00:05:33]  Yes!
[00:05:34]  Just on our homepage, knowledgefight.com, there will be a streaming player of a Q&A thing that you and I did where we answered some audience questions.
[00:05:44]  And we did it together!
[00:05:45]  Yes, and we also drank some seltzers and tried them out and gave some thank yous.
[00:05:52]  So there's some PolicyWalk shoutouts on that to be found and for your enjoyment.
[00:05:57]  Feel free to listen to it now if it's up.
[00:06:00]  Or, hey, if you want to wait until Thursday, give yourself a nice little bridge between our Wednesday and Friday episodes.
[00:06:05]  Can't go a day without content.
[00:06:06]  I didn't want to put it up on the regular podcast stream because I felt like it might be overburdening people.
[00:06:12]  But it's there if people want it.
[00:06:13]  So that's my feeling.
[00:06:14]  Go for it.
[00:06:15]  So, in terms of the year of the seltzer, we're up to 55 seltzers now.
[00:06:18]  There's a lot of progress being made here.
[00:06:21]  And, you know, all's good on the western front, as they say.
[00:06:26]  All quiet on the western front.
[00:06:28]  I got some Whole Foods brand seltzers.
[00:06:32]  They come in large glass bottles.
[00:06:35]  And they're great.
[00:06:37]  Whole Foods brand seltzers in large bottles.
[00:06:41]  Spectacular.
[00:06:41]  Sparkling mineral water is so good.
[00:06:44]  Okay.
[00:06:45]  I've tried two of them so far.
[00:06:46]  I've got a strawberry coming in at $65.
[00:06:48]  That's good.
[00:06:48]  And lemon raspberry coming in at $72 because it was better.
[00:06:52]  Lemon raspberry.
[00:06:52]  Yes.
[00:06:53]  Very good.
[00:06:53]  Very good.
[00:06:54]  I wouldn't buy that flavor combination normally.
[00:06:57]  One of the reasons that I ended up buying these is they're cheap as hell.
[00:07:00]  And because one of them was like an elderberry something or other.
[00:07:03]  And I was looking at the bottle and I'm like, I would never buy this.
[00:07:06]  But then I realized I don't know what elderberry tastes like.
[00:07:09]  No clue what it is.
[00:07:10]  I have no idea.
[00:07:11]  It could be great.
[00:07:12]  It could be terrible.
[00:07:12]  I don't know.
[00:07:13]  So we'll find out.
[00:07:14]  But also there's one that is a pineapple passion fruit.
[00:07:16]  And I have a slight expectation that that might end up being one of the ones that breaks into the 80s.
[00:07:23]  One of the greats.
[00:07:24]  Yeah.
[00:07:24]  Okay.
[00:07:24]  The 90s bowls of seltzers, if you will.
[00:07:27]  It's possible this could be Rodman.
[00:07:29]  Like, pineapple, if done well, is fantastic.
[00:07:32]  Great.
[00:07:32]  And I'm realizing that I may have an unknown or unrealized love of passion fruit, as we've discussed.
[00:07:39]  Yes.
[00:07:39]  So that could end up being like a dark horse.
[00:07:41]  Whole Foods pineapple passion fruit.
[00:07:44]  But I'm keeping it in the fridge because I don't want it.
[00:07:46]  It's Schrodinger's Amazing Seltzer for now.
[00:07:49]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:07:49]  I feel like I have to get through every coconut one I can find and be disappointed and horrified before I treat myself to something so wonderful as Pineapple Passion.
[00:08:01]  We'll see.
[00:08:02]  So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're going over May 10th and 11th.
[00:08:05]  A lot of fucked up nonsense to get through, and I'm excited to do it.
[00:08:09]  But first, here's an Out of Context Drop from today's show.
[00:08:12]  What are we doing today?
[00:08:16]  Doing the same thing we do every day, Pinky.
[00:08:18]  Taking over the world.
[00:08:20]  That's Pinky in the brain.
[00:08:21]  You bet it is.
[00:08:25]  Thank God he psyched that.
[00:08:26]  Thank you.
[00:08:27]  Thank you for reminding us that it was Pinky in the brain that he's referencing there.
[00:08:30]  Yep.
[00:08:31]  Even as he gets the quote fucking wrong.
[00:08:33]  Did he?
[00:08:34]  Yeah.
[00:08:35]  It's time to try to take over the world, not take over the world.
[00:08:40]  Stickler.
[00:08:40]  They never actually succeed in taking over the world, Dan.
[00:08:43]  That is true.
[00:08:44]  As far as I recall from my pinky-in-the-brain viewings, there was not one where it just ended like, hey, we did it!

=== 10,000 Stockholm Chip Users (07:17) ===

[00:08:51]  Yeah, that would be great, though.
[00:08:52]  So here, we're going to start on the 10th.
[00:08:54]  That's Sunday, and Alex has a number of narratives that he wants to get busy on, and this first one is about people in foreign countries taking chips.
[00:09:02]  And I'm going to lay it all out for you today.
[00:09:04]  Did you know, starting five years ago in Sweden, they also do it in other countries, that you get free bus rides if you take an implantable microchip.
[00:09:15]  And last time I read, more than 10,000 people in Stockholm, where you get Stockholm Syndrome named from.
[00:09:23]  Wow.
[00:09:25]  Congrats.
[00:09:26]  More than 10,000 people, I guess, have Stockholm Syndrome in Stockholm, the pilot city and took implantable chips.
[00:09:32]  Well, Look at this.
[00:09:36]  Look at this little juicy.
[00:09:39]  Benjamin Netanyahu says he wants every child in Israel next year to get chips.
[00:09:44]  And the Israeli Intelligence Agency will run the whole thing.
[00:09:49]  Just like that, you're inside the New World Order.
[00:09:52]  Just like that.
[00:09:53]  So, there's some misrepresentations going on here, and some irresponsible reporting.
[00:09:58]  Like when he called news a little piece of juicy?
[00:10:01]  Well, we should be used to that by now.
[00:10:03]  That's gross.
[00:10:04]  That's kind of par for the course for this guy.
[00:10:06]  So, the way he tells this story about Sweden, there's an arrangement where if you agree to take an implantable microchip, you can get free bus rides.
[00:10:14]  What he's referring to is a pilot program that a train company called SJ tried in 2017, where people could use implantable chips to store their electronic train tickets on this chip.
[00:10:24]  I found an article about this in the Independent, and this line seems particularly relevant.
[00:10:29]  Well, yeah.
[00:10:43]  So it's people who already have a chip.
[00:10:45]  Yeah, people who are already kind of into body mods, and they're just like, hey, if you're already here, let's try this out, and you guys can try it out, and then we're good.
[00:10:52]  Yeah, everybody's consenting.
[00:10:53]  Yeah.
[00:10:53]  The biohacking idea took root in startup companies, with the amp plant being offered to be used as an optional way to access buildings, and was specifically designed to not be able to be tracked.
[00:11:04]  A 2017 article in the Washington Post is really clear that the chip, quote, has no built-in power supply and can't send signals about its position.
[00:11:12]  Obviously, there are concerns one could have about what the technology could grow into in the future and the challenges it could present in terms of privacy, but this basic tech doesn't seem to be that effective in terms of being the evil New World Order Mark of the Beast that Alex wants to present it as.
[00:11:25]  I don't know, it sounds pretty Mark of the Beast-y.
[00:11:27]  Sounds pretty much right in line.
[00:11:29]  Mark of the Beast-y boys.
[00:11:30]  Yeah, nice.
[00:11:31]  Alright, come on now.
[00:11:33]  So anyway, these 2,000 or so people already have implanted chips, and this train company decided to test if they could use them to store tickets.
[00:11:43]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:11:53]  want to get one of these chips, there's still tons of other ways you can buy tickets to ride and do all the other things that the chip enables you to do, like get into buildings.
[00:12:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:12:01]  You still have a key card.
[00:12:02]  I'm always fascinated by how terrified these people are of...
[00:12:06]  of a computer chip and yet at the same time they're carrying around a phone that can be remotely turned on without their knowledge that they're saying.
[00:12:13]  Right.
[00:12:13]  Like, you know, one of those is more scary.
[00:12:17]  Some of these articles about this Swedish chip thing very clearly bring that point up.
[00:12:22]  Yeah.
[00:12:22]  Yeah.
[00:12:23]  It seems very obvious.
[00:12:25]  A July 2019 article in the New York Post estimated that approximately 4,000 people in Sweden had gotten this chip implant by that point, and I have no idea where Alex is getting his 10,000 in Stockholm numbers from.
[00:12:35]  I would assume he's just exaggerating it from headlines like, quote, thousands of Swedes are inserting microchips under their skin from NPR.
[00:12:42]  And that number is not 10,000.
[00:12:44]  He's just assuming.
[00:12:45]  That's what I guess is going on.
[00:12:47]  Yeah, it says thousands must be 10. Making a round number.
[00:12:49]  The story about what Benjamin Netanyahu has proposed is something completely different.
[00:12:53]  He's suggested that as a part of reopening after the coronavirus, Israel should put chips in all school children, which would then make beeping noises if they got too close to each other, which presumably would help with enforcing social distancing.
[00:13:06]  That doesn't sound like a great idea, but okay.
[00:13:09]  Experts have roundly rejected the idea, saying it's practically unfeasible, very likely legally impossible, and wouldn't achieve the desired result, even if it were possible to implement.
[00:13:19]  It seems, from what I can tell, that this proposal is not going to get off the ground.
[00:13:23]  And a point brought up by cyber resilience expert Enot Mehran in an article in the Jerusalem Post, he kind of makes clear why.
[00:13:31]  Quote, Can the state take responsibility for that?
[00:13:45]  There are a ton of reasons, including concerns like that, why this would be a very unwise system for a state to put in place.
[00:13:51]  And until I see evidence of the contrary, this kind of seems like a world leader blowing hard about dumb ideas about how they envision returning to some kind of normalcy.
[00:13:59]  Yeah.
[00:13:59]  And let's not forget that just back in January, Netanyahu was, quote, charged with bribery and fraud and breabody.
[00:14:05]  For what?
[00:14:08]  These cases are ongoing, and since he hasn't been convicted, he's still able to legally serve as prime minister, but that may not go on indefinitely.
[00:14:16]  Isn't that wild?
[00:14:17]  Yeah.
[00:14:18]  The laws are crazy.
[00:14:20]  Anyway, the point here is that these two situations with microchips are completely different.
[00:14:25]  One of them is a passive chip that's not run by the government and does not track people being used when they're using it like a key card, whatever.
[00:14:34]  The other is a government suggesting putting geolocating chips in children.
[00:14:38]  It's pretty dishonest to have a conversation where you treat these as equivalent or even related things just because they involve microchips.
[00:14:45]  Especially since one of them, it took me all of four seconds to be like, that's a terrible idea.
[00:14:50]  Stop that.
[00:14:51]  Sure.
[00:14:52]  Very easy.
[00:14:53]  Very easy to know that nobody's going to follow through on Netanyahu's ridiculous nonsense.
[00:14:57]  I mean, I don't want to say that no one will because the world is wild now.
[00:15:01]  I assume Turkey will.
[00:15:04]  You can have a conversation about how the idea of this Sweden program is what this could facilitate or grow into or whatever.
[00:15:13]  If you want to have that conversation, by all means, go ahead.
[00:15:16]  But talking about it on the merits, it's not even close to the same thing as what Netanyahu's proposing.
[00:15:23]  And I find it offensive when Alex just makes them the same thing.
[00:15:26]  So Alex gets talking and boy, this guy fucking loves history.
[00:15:33]  I'll tell you what.
[00:15:34]  It's impressive.
[00:15:35]  I mean, with the old Vikings, a lot of the Viking tribes, when a man died, they would take his wife and sometimes his daughters, because they owned them, and they would tie them up on a boat, a ship, and send them out in the water on fire together so they could go to Valhalla together.

=== Viking Burial Rituals (03:42) ===

[00:15:58]  I'm listening.
[00:16:02]  Is that Netanyahu's idea?
[00:16:04]  Now, why did people act like that?
[00:16:07]  Why did every culture end up setting things up like that?
[00:16:10]  Well, I have the answers.
[00:16:12]  So, just to be clear, Alex's reason for the cultures all doing this is because interdimensional demons are telling them to sacrifice humans for their pleasure or something.
[00:16:20]  There we go.
[00:16:21]  And this is based on Alex's deep research.
[00:16:23]  Unfortunately, this appears to be yet another thing that Alex saw in a movie and decided to call deep research.
[00:16:28]  For one thing, Viking funerals at sea were absolutely not the standard for people of the Scandinavian tribes that we call Vikings.
[00:16:35]  You can easily see how absurdly expensive that would become if you were making boats and burning them at sea for every person who died.
[00:16:42]  Infinite resources, Dan.
[00:16:43]  Come on, Dan.
[00:16:43]  Sure.
[00:16:44]  There were some people who had funeral pyres and boats on the sea, but the historical record tends to indicate that these were reserved for really important people.
[00:16:52]  The different groups that are all lumped in as Viking were not a uniform culture, but most people were cremated or just barren.
[00:16:58]  typically however boats were really important symbol in their culture representing safe passage to the afterlife so people would often be buried with parts of their boats or even cooler their burial mounds would be made to resemble ships themselves who that is fun this was far more common than the funeral at sea, but the funeral at sea is what's always depicted in movies.
[00:17:17]  So someone who only watches movies and decides that studying, you know, that That's basically the same thing.
[00:17:23]  You probably think that it's super common and what they did for everybody.
[00:17:26]  Yeah.
[00:17:26]  This thematic touch where the Norse dead is put on a boat and then they shoot fire arrows at it, like Alex is describing.
[00:17:33]  That doesn't come from history.
[00:17:34]  It actually started in the 1958 film The Vikings, and it's been a really popular trope ever since then.
[00:17:39]  It is really fucking cool.
[00:17:41]  It is.
[00:17:41]  I mean, let's be honest.
[00:17:43]  It's really cool.
[00:17:44]  And that's why it stuck around.
[00:17:45]  How did they even hit it?
[00:17:46]  It's so far away!
[00:17:47]  Yeah.
[00:17:48]  So one of the difficulties on this subject is the actual written history, the record about Viking peoples is limited.
[00:17:54]  So there's a bit of uncertainty about what the precise reasons were for why they did the things they did in terms of funeral rituals.
[00:18:00]  It's a really diverse set of funeral rituals.
[00:18:03]  A lot of them seem to involve chaos.
[00:18:06]  So it's really tough to know exactly what was going on.
[00:18:10]  There may have been some instances of Norsemen being buried with their wives, like murdered, you know, but what was far more common was them killing slaves to be buried with the person to help them on their trip to the afterlife, which is something that you unfortunately do see in a lot of older cultures.
[00:18:27]  Also, there's no reason for Alex just to think that women were property in Viking communities.
[00:18:31]  There's strong archaeological evidence that women were in fact not property.
[00:18:36]  There have been merchant scales found in women's graves, which indicates that they were involved in trading and thus allowed to have some sort of autonomous life.
[00:18:44]  Additionally, in 1904, the remains of the Ulfsberg ship were found in Vestfold, Norway.
[00:18:50]  The ship was a funeral vessel which served as the burial site for two important Norse women who died around 834 CE.
[00:18:56]  This is like a particularly large boat casket, 70 feet long, 17 feet wide, and 30 feet high.
[00:19:03]  So it gives the strong evidence that these were women who had a particularly important position in their community, which Alex would not think is possible because he's only seen movies and TV shows.
[00:19:12]  And maybe played the Witcher, because that sort of Viking-ish, the Skellige Islands.
[00:19:17]  They have that whole thing where they burn a boat.

=== Seth Rich Conspiracy Revisited (05:51) ===

[00:19:19]  Skellige, yeah.
[00:19:20]  Love it.
[00:19:21]  This is not to say that these communities were egalitarian or equitable.
[00:19:25]  That's not...
[00:19:26]  Fair, probably.
[00:19:27]  But just the perspective that Alex has on these people is not something he's gained from research.
[00:19:31]  It's just that he watched some TVs and movies.
[00:19:33]  He knows nothing.
[00:19:35]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:19:35]  This is nonsense.
[00:19:36]  He's not read a book.
[00:19:38]  He could not tell you whether or not a ship is still a ship if all of its parts have been replaced.
[00:19:44]  It's an interesting philosophical question.
[00:19:46]  It's difficult to answer.
[00:19:47]  Sure.
[00:19:48]  And also, there's one made out of toenails, so there's that too.
[00:19:50]  I have an interesting philosophical question to ask you.
[00:19:52]  What's that?
[00:19:53]  If...
[00:19:54]  You're Alex Jones, and you're circling the drain desperately, and things are falling apart.
[00:19:59]  Right.
[00:20:00]  This is a hypothetical, right?
[00:20:02]  Should you follow through with the plan that you had before the virus outbreak, where you start talking more about Seth Rich?
[00:20:11]  Hmm.
[00:20:12]  I can't think of any reason why not.
[00:20:15]  Oh.
[00:20:17]  Big article at National File.
[00:20:19]  They've got a great headline, but it should have been this.
[00:20:21]  NSA has communications between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks, attorney claims.
[00:20:25]  I read the article, Cy Hirsch, two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, most respected as you can get.
[00:20:31]  He's now talked to the FBI agents and others.
[00:20:33]  They've seen it.
[00:20:34]  They all know it.
[00:20:35]  Seth Rich was the leaker.
[00:20:38]  So, the story here is that this guy named, this lawyer named Ty Clevenger, he's come out and he's made some claims regarding Seth Rich that he's failed to substantiate in any way.
[00:20:49]  I wonder how.
[00:20:50]  His first claim is that he's been told that the NSA or other related agencies are in possession of communications between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks.
[00:20:57]  There's no evidence provided for this claim, but that's never stopped Alex from believing something before.
[00:21:02]  Clevenger, he claims that, quote, several high-ranking FBI and NSA officials have seen the correspondence between Rich and WikiLeaks firsthand, to which I say, prove it.
[00:21:12]  Let's see the evidence on that, buddy.
[00:21:14]  Is he talking about a few lieutenant colonels?
[00:21:16]  Probably.
[00:21:17]  Yeah, I think he's probably talking about some lieutenant colonels.
[00:21:19]  So Clevenger goes on to claim that he has a recording of Seymour Hersh talking to one of his clients and claiming that he spoke to someone at the FBI who confirmed emails between Rich and WikiLeaks.
[00:21:30]  This recording is not available on the InfoWars article about this, nor the National File, one that I think Alex is referring to.
[00:21:36]  So, to this, I say, let's see that audio.
[00:21:38]  Yeah.
[00:21:39]  Because I have found some audio that purports to be leaked Seymour Hersh phone calls, and they don't prove any of this stuff.
[00:21:44]  They're related to this topic somewhat, but they don't prove any of these claims.
[00:21:48]  Well, yeah, but you're just not listening to the right ones, Dan.
[00:21:51]  Sure, maybe.
[00:21:52]  But they're not providing any of them, so I don't know what the fuck to do.
[00:21:55]  This guy needs to put up, is what I'm saying.
[00:21:57]  I think he's one of those guys who doesn't want to put up for some reason.
[00:22:01]  Probably.
[00:22:01]  I think he's just one of those guys who's like, I don't need to put up.
[00:22:04]  So this seems to be a conspiracy theorist taking threads that have existed from the beginning of the Seth Rich bullshit and pretending that they're new.
[00:22:11]  The Seymour Hersh thing was a claim that goes back to at least 2017 when Hersh himself debunked it.
[00:22:17]  One of the OG Seth Rich conspiracists, Ed Botowski, who's a Trump associate and donor, said he, quote, became convinced that the FBI had a report concluding that Seth Rich's laptop showed that he had contacts with WikiLeaks after speaking to the legendary reporter Seymour Hirsch, who was also investigating Rich's death.
[00:22:34]  According to the transcripts in the lawsuit, Botowski says Hirsch had an FBI source who confirmed the report.
[00:22:40]  That's from a 2017 thing.
[00:22:42]  NPR interviewed Hirsch about this, and he said, quote, I hear gossip.
[00:22:46]  Butowski took two and two and made 45 out of it.
[00:22:49]  Yeah.
[00:22:49]  Yeah.
[00:22:50]  That sounds about right.
[00:22:51]  This misrepresentation of Hirsch was passed from Butowski to Fox News, who ended up feeding the flames of the initial propaganda about this.
[00:22:58]  Which ended in lawsuits.
[00:23:00]  Everybody came out fine.
[00:23:02]  Smelling like roses.
[00:23:03]  This is exactly what Clevenger is talking about.
[00:23:05]  And I know that because I found a July 2019 blog post on the website Lawflog, which was written by Ty Clevenger himself, where he discusses how Ed Butowski is one of his clients.
[00:23:15]  F-Log's Lawflog?
[00:23:16]  Yes.
[00:23:17]  Is that the one?
[00:23:17]  Yeah.
[00:23:18]  Another reason that I'm kind of worried about Clevenger's work is because he also said in this post about the Seth Rich stuff, new, new stuff.
[00:23:27]  Back to the NSA.
[00:23:28]  Former NSA officials Bill Binney, Ed Loomis, and Kirk Wiebe are prepared to testify that the DNC emails published by WikiLeaks could not have been obtained via hacking.
[00:23:38]  This is a huge problem because Bill Binney has walked back that claim.
[00:23:42]  And from everything I can tell, he would not testify to that in court because he was shown that his assertions about download speeds were completely wrong.
[00:23:49]  This, again, is another element of these claims being made by Clevenger that just seems to be the old Seth Rich conspiracy shit being reintroduced and pretending that it all hasn't already been discredited.
[00:23:59]  This is pretty sad, and honestly, we've done this already, so I'm not going to waste my time watching Alex pretend there's new information here.
[00:24:05]  Alex better be fucking careful, though, because this is a topic that has led to a number of people being sued already, and the family of Seth Rich does not seem thrilled that people are keeping this alive.
[00:24:16]  Yeah, I think in his situation, though, part of him must be like, what else do you got?
[00:24:22]  You know, like, oh, you're gonna sue me?
[00:24:24]  Yeah, join the fucking club.
[00:24:26]  You know, like, oh, you're going to be the last one to sue me.
[00:24:29]  If I have any money left at the end of this, you still won't get any.
[00:24:33]  I might be able to get a little press out of getting sued, and then maybe I can make an arrangement or something.
[00:24:40]  I can settle.
[00:24:43]  Whatever.
[00:24:43]  Yeah, and all in service of jangling keys away from his guy being the worst human being on the planet.
[00:24:49]  Yep.
[00:24:49]  And having to deal with that.
[00:24:50]  Yeah, he doesn't want to do that.
[00:24:52]  No.
[00:24:52]  And one of the ways he's, you know, distracted attention, I understand already we're all over the place, and that's because this episode is one of the rare instances where Alex is throwing spaghetti at the wall.

=== Congress Considers Forced Testing (15:43) ===

[00:25:02]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:03]  Viking funerals.
[00:25:05]  No more narratives are working, so let's see what we can...
[00:25:08]  Figure out, yeah.
[00:25:09]  But of course, a lot of it does still end up having to be about, like, coronavirus denialism.
[00:25:14]  Sure, sure.
[00:25:15]  And one of the big things that he's done with that is, you know, to craft the giant conspiracy is, of course, Bill Gates' patent 060606.
[00:25:24]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:25:25]  The patent of the devil.
[00:25:26]  Yes.
[00:25:28]  Unfortunately, the number six has come back up in another place.
[00:25:31]  Okay.
[00:25:32]  Congress introduces bill to allow government to mass test Americans for COVID-19 in their homes forcibly.
[00:25:41]  And ladies and gentlemen, let me give you the bill number, shall I?
[00:25:51]  6666.
[00:25:53]  That's one too many, buddy.
[00:25:55]  Five months ago.
[00:25:56]  Got a patent on 2020.
[00:26:00]  060606.
[00:26:01]  To track you with either a chip or a bracelet.
[00:26:03]  I gotta say that it's so unsatisfying how all the satanic shit that Alex tries to build up is not actually ever 666.
[00:26:10]  I know!
[00:26:11]  I understand that the bill number is just sixes, but it's not 666.
[00:26:15]  That patent filing number may have been 060606, but that is not 666.
[00:26:21]  If the number of the beast is 666, that isn't Revelation saying, hey weirdo, look out for numbers that remind you of 666.
[00:26:28]  It's saying that the specific number of the beast...
[00:26:31]  It's 666.
[00:26:32]  6666 is not 666, and I reject this lazy level of devil baiting.
[00:26:37]  No, the devil is fungible, Dan.
[00:26:40]  The devil is always willing to play a little game around on you.
[00:26:43]  The devil is a suggestion.
[00:26:46]  Get the fuck out of here.
[00:26:47]  So here are some other bills that have the number 6666, and let's bask in the pure evil of this bill number.
[00:26:54]  All right, let's do it.
[00:26:54]  In the 2017-2018 legislative session, the New York State Senate passed Bill 6666, which, quote, relates to authorizing the care and treatment of injured employees by duly licensed and certified acupuncturists under the Workers' Compensation Program.
[00:27:09]  Devil uses acupuncture next.
[00:27:11]  Injured workers can now go see an acupuncturist.
[00:27:14]  Pure devilry!
[00:27:14]  Exactly.
[00:27:15]  Governor Cuomo ended up vetoing this bill, though, so does that mean that Cuomo was fighting the devil?
[00:27:20]  Let's not get bogged down into it, because this shit runs deep.
[00:27:24]  Who could forget about the deep-seated Satanism in 2018's U.S. House of Representatives Bill, H.R. 6666?
[00:27:31]  Or as you might remember it, quote, the bill to authorize the Secretary of the Interior to grant to states and local governments easements and rights of way over federal land within Gateway National Recreation Area for construction, operation, and maintenance of projects for control and prevention of flooding and shoreline erosion.
[00:27:48]  That sounds...
[00:27:50]  Exactly like the devil.
[00:27:51]  It gives you chills to hear about that level of evil.
[00:27:54]  Oh, man.
[00:27:55]  Easements.
[00:27:56]  No!
[00:27:57]  Everything must be harder!
[00:27:59]  Shoreline erosion.
[00:28:01]  But really, why stop at bill numbers?
[00:28:03]  If 6666 is basically just 666, shouldn't we be scouring phone numbers for clues as hotbeds of devil worship?
[00:28:10]  Absolutely.
[00:28:10]  If so, I suggest Alex do a big expose on the Hawaiian Electric Company, whose phone number is suspiciously 969-6666.
[00:28:19]  That's an extra six.
[00:28:20]  That's so many sixes!
[00:28:21]  And the two nines are just basically upside-down sixes.
[00:28:23]  That's all the sixes.
[00:28:24]  This thing goes deep, Jordan.
[00:28:26]  Okay.
[00:28:26]  And I didn't realize how deep it went, but you know, you know...
[00:28:29]  There are even pockets of Satanists in the world of early 1900s Texas ranchers.
[00:28:33]  How else could you possibly explain that one of the most famous ranchers in King County, Texas is literally named the 6666 Ranch?
[00:28:41]  Case closed.
[00:28:43]  Satanism.
[00:28:45]  Now, I sense a little bit of personal enmity towards Alex for this bullshit.
[00:28:50]  No, that's actually true.
[00:28:51]  The 4666 Ranch.
[00:28:53]  I mean, yeah.
[00:28:55]  It's just stupid.
[00:28:56]  I fucking hate this stupidity.
[00:28:57]  I know.
[00:28:58]  So, House resolutions are numbered in the order they're introduced.
[00:29:01]  And if more than 6,665 resolutions pop up in a session, you're inevitably going to get a 6666.
[00:29:08]  It legit means nothing.
[00:29:10]  Bill 6666 in the 2007-2008 session of Congress is actually something that Alex would probably wholeheartedly support.
[00:29:17]  Quote, to amend the Clean Air Act to provide that greenhouse gases are not subject to the bill.
[00:29:22]  I bet that number would become substantially less suspicious if Alex were covering that bill.
[00:29:27]  Yeah, that one actually does sound 60-60 to me.
[00:29:30]  Or what about this year?
[00:29:31]  You know, there was already a bill 666, right?
[00:29:33]  That happened already.
[00:29:34]  And it was to extend benefits to veterans.
[00:29:37]  Yeah.
[00:29:37]  I don't know what Alex thinks he's proving with this stupid numerology bullshit, but if that's the level of game he wants to play...
[00:29:42]  I guess he's free to.
[00:29:44]  It just looks pretty fucking embarrassing from where I'm sitting.
[00:29:47]  It is very embarrassing.
[00:29:48]  As for the actual bill, it begins, Let's pause there.
[00:30:07]  All the bill is doing is authorizing the Secretary of HHS to give grants.
[00:30:12]  Alex does realize that Trump gets to decide who the secretary of HHS is, right?
[00:30:16]  Nuh-uh, the deep state decides.
[00:30:18]  This is a presidentially appointed position, and Trump's guy, Alex Azar, is currently in that role.
[00:30:23]  If this were some kind of a nefarious thing where this bill was meant to facilitate evil, it literally could only be done by the action of the person Trump hired and could fire.
[00:30:31]  Unless they're blackmailing Alex Azar.
[00:30:34]  Whatever.
[00:30:35]  Already, after just the first line of this act, you can see how any conspiracy about this is mostly based on the bill number, not on content.
[00:30:42]  This is a very short bill, but Alex isn't a big reader.
[00:30:45]  If he's going to complain about some news article being four pages long, it's not like he's a guy who likes primary information.
[00:30:52]  If you read this, it's pretty clear that what this bill is about is allowing the Secretary of Health and Human Services to distribute grant money to eligible organizations that are involved in increasing our testing capacity to get to the point where it's conceivable To return safely to something resembling normal.
[00:31:07]  The part about doing in-home testing, that would be something that those entities would receive grants.
[00:31:11]  They could do this to facilitate people who are already quarantining.
[00:31:16]  You can imagine how much better a system it would be if you could get reliable testing at home as opposed to thinking you might be sick and then having to go out into public being unsure if doing so is a risk to others.
[00:31:26]  This whole conspiracy is a load of bullshit and at this point I'm weary.
[00:31:30]  I'm just weary.
[00:31:31]  It takes so little to create the appearance of something evil when you want it to be.
[00:31:35]  Yeah, did they put forcibly in that bill?
[00:31:37]  It sounds like something that Congress does.
[00:31:39]  I didn't see that.
[00:31:40]  Yeah, they usually put forcibly.
[00:31:41]  I think that might have been editorialized.
[00:31:42]  Let's give them a grant to people who will break into your home and test you for a disease.
[00:31:48]  I think that's a great idea.
[00:31:50]  Right.
[00:31:50]  I don't think they put forcibly in that bill.
[00:31:53]  I don't think so.
[00:31:54]  I doubt it.
[00:31:54]  And, let's imagine that they did.
[00:31:56]  Okay.
[00:31:56]  Azar could stop it.
[00:31:57]  Yes, he could!
[00:31:59]  He could just say, I'm not going to give grants to people who do that.
[00:32:03]  Done!
[00:32:04]  Problem solved!
[00:32:05]  Unless he gets confused by how many sixes there are.
[00:32:08]  And if he refused to do that, Trump could fire him and replace him with someone who wouldn't.
[00:32:12]  Problem solved.
[00:32:13]  Even if your nefarious, evil fucking version of this bill is true.
[00:32:17]  You have the ace of spades to play.
[00:32:20]  Pretty sure everybody is actually in on it.
[00:32:23]  Stupid.
[00:32:23]  Everyone's in on it, Dan.
[00:32:25]  So tired.
[00:32:26]  Yep.
[00:32:27]  You know how hotels don't have 13 floors because of the superstitious bullshit?
[00:32:31]  Get rid of these bill numbers that are weird.
[00:32:33]  Get rid of bill 420.
[00:32:35]  Get rid of 666.
[00:32:36]  Get rid of 69. Just stop it.
[00:32:38]  Any number that's fun, get rid of it.
[00:32:40]  Every bill is bill 69. Bill 69.1.2.3.
[00:32:46]  Yeah, we've got to do something, because these dum-dums just can't handle things.
[00:32:50]  They just cannot deal with it.
[00:32:52]  So, in this next clip, Alex has found a new coronavirus conspiracy to ramble about, and this one is maybe dumber than some of his others.
[00:33:01]  The joke is, you die of a shark attack, they'll test you.
[00:33:03]  And remember, the Tanzanian president is a famous biologist.
[00:33:06]  He's invented a lot of stuff.
[00:33:08]  He's a top biologist.
[00:33:10]  He had a feeling, because he knew the UN was paying off the Tanzanian National Clinic.
[00:33:15]  So he said, send a goat and a papaya last week to test.
[00:33:18]  They both tested COVID-19.
[00:33:20]  They test for genetic material.
[00:33:22]  That genetic material is in everything that's biological.
[00:33:27]  So the president of Tanzania is a man named John Magufuli, and there is no sincere person who would ever claim that he is a, quote, top biologist.
[00:33:35]  I'm pretty sure he's a top biologist.
[00:33:36]  For one, he has a doctorate in chemistry, which is not biology.
[00:33:39]  It's pretty much the same thing.
[00:33:40]  Nope.
[00:33:40]  I have no idea what Alex is claiming he's invented, and Alex isn't specific about it, so I'm just going to leave it alone.
[00:33:45]  He invented biology.
[00:33:46]  Maybe.
[00:33:47]  So there's a viral meme that's been going around about Magufuli claiming that he sent a sample of a goat, a quail, and a papaya to be tested for COVID-19, and they came back positive.
[00:33:58]  There's been absolutely no evidence provided to back up this claim, and people have been pretty quick to point out that Magu Fuli is currently facing a great deal of pressure over his handling of the virus, and this sounds like a whole lot like something someone would say if they were trying to minimize a problem they handled poorly.
[00:34:12]  Yeah, that does sound familiar.
[00:34:14]  So until we get some sort of an evidence of this, or maybe someone replicating this in a controlled environment, I think it's probably a Tanzanian president talking shit.
[00:34:23]  Yeah.
[00:34:24]  Also, Alex should definitely not like John Magufuli.
[00:34:28]  No, he's great.
[00:34:29]  A July 2018 article in the Mail and Guardian discusses Magufuli's government's practice of intimidating journalists, with reports of them, quote, being threatened, assaulted, and kidnapped.
[00:34:39]  Hit with papayas all over the place.
[00:34:41]  In 2017, Magufuli began shutting down media operations that were not to his liking, including five prominent TV stations and the Swahili-language newspaper Mawiyo.
[00:34:50]  He introduced a $920 license that the government required bloggers to obtain to be able to post things online, licenses that the government can revoke if the writers post content that they disapprovaled.
[00:35:00]  It's just to protect against fake news, Dan.
[00:35:03]  And then there were the threats to have anti-government protesters, quote, beaten like stray dogs.
[00:35:08]  You can't have people starting riots out there, Dan.
[00:35:14]  This is for their safety.
[00:35:16]  Everything Alex pretends is happening in the U.S. because he's not allowed on Twitter actually is happening to journalists and activists in Tanzania.
[00:35:23]  He doesn't know any of that shit, and he doesn't care.
[00:35:25]  This guy came out and said something useful for Alex's narratives about the coronavirus.
[00:35:28]  So he's not only a great president, he's also apparently a famous inventor and top biologist.
[00:35:33]  It takes zero work to go from...
[00:35:40]  Nothing to top biologist.
[00:35:41]  It takes nowhere.
[00:35:42]  You don't even have to be a biologist.
[00:35:44]  Nope.
[00:35:44]  Say something fun for Alex to use, and guess what?
[00:35:47]  You just got a promotion to top biologist.
[00:35:50]  If Alex gave Nobel Prizes, there would be a lot of Nobel Prizes, and no one would get one for what they do.
[00:35:56]  If you have anything that's helpful to him and you publish it, you're now working for a prestigious university.
[00:36:02]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
[00:36:03]  Even if you don't work for a university.
[00:36:05]  Blog post.
[00:36:06]  One of the most prestigious blog posts ever.
[00:36:09]  Winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature.
[00:36:12]  Sure.
[00:36:12]  So there's been some trouble going on in the world of real, the real world as they call it.
[00:36:17]  Ooh, not a fan.
[00:36:18]  With some cases of the virus at meatpacking plants.
[00:36:22]  There have been certainly a robust conversation going on about this.
[00:36:26]  Alex has a bad take on it.
[00:36:29]  Guys, pull up the article when we come back.
[00:36:31]  300 plus...
[00:36:34]  Tyson employees test positive.
[00:36:36]  2,000 employees at a meatpacking plant.
[00:36:39]  300 plus test positive.
[00:36:40]  Not one got a fever.
[00:36:42]  Not one had a cough.
[00:36:44]  That's called asymptomatic.
[00:36:47]  You're so smart.
[00:36:49]  Of course they tested positive.
[00:36:51]  So smart.
[00:36:51]  You had a cold in the last decade.
[00:36:53]  You test positive.
[00:36:54]  There it is.
[00:36:54]  It was 300.
[00:36:55]  So the 298 workers at Tennessee Tyson plant test positive COVID-19.
[00:36:59]  So, the story about the 300 people at a Tyson plant testing positive doesn't actually make the argument Alex is claiming it does.
[00:37:07]  For one, if the tests just say you're positive, if you've had a cold in the last decade or whatever, why did only 300 out of 2,000 test positive?
[00:37:15]  Introducing the idea that some tests are always being positive and some not is going to be an additional layer of conspiracy here that I don't think Alex is ready or able to prove at all.
[00:37:24]  I'm not positive exactly what plant he's talking about, unfortunately, because there are a number of them.
[00:37:29]  There are a number of situations similar to this or along these lines.
[00:37:33]  Yeah, because everything's great.
[00:37:34]  So he's talking about a Tyson plant, that's for sure.
[00:37:37]  And I should tell you that Business Insider reported on Monday that, quote, at least 4,585 Tyson workers in 15 states have been diagnosed with COVID-19, and 18 have died.
[00:37:48]  That's the reality that Alex is spinning into propaganda as a narrative.
[00:37:51]  It's pretty important not to lose sight of that.
[00:37:53]  These arguments are ghoulish, and even if the numbers are accurate, they don't make the case he thinks they do.
[00:37:59]  No.
[00:37:59]  It does not make sense.
[00:38:00]  No, this is insane.
[00:38:02]  These people are insane.
[00:38:03]  So, Hugh said that he's talking about a Tyson plant here, but later in the episode, we find out that he thinks it's the same thing as a pork plant in Missouri, which isn't run by Tyson.
[00:38:15]  This is a story that was about a plant that was run by Triumph Foods.
[00:38:19]  And Alex conveniently ignores an update about that story when he covers it.
[00:38:24]  And that is that one of the employees who was tested positive, who was a man in his 40s, is now dead.
[00:38:29]  Alex is hanging on the asymptomatic thing here to argue that none of these people are actually sick and it's all a charade.
[00:38:34]  And I feel like if this guy, who's unidentified in the stories that I found about it, but he wants to sue Alex, maybe this might be a fun way to do it.
[00:38:44]  Have fun.
[00:38:45]  Yep, it's possible.
[00:38:46]  Join the class action lawsuit that will eventually, I assume, include the entirety of the United States of America.
[00:38:54]  It seems like there's a possibility of that.
[00:38:56]  Yeah, don't we all have grounds to sue Alex?
[00:38:58]  330 million co-signing amicus briefs.
[00:39:02]  Some of them might be flimsy lawsuits.
[00:39:04]  I will say that class action is a little bit light, but why not?
[00:39:08]  Yeah.
[00:39:09]  Might get a slap.
[00:39:10]  Alex gets slap suits against everybody in America.
[00:39:13]  I think that'd be great.
[00:39:16]  So in this next clip, Alex discusses how, like, you know, with the virus, all this stuff, that is all we need to focus on.
[00:39:24]  Sure.
[00:39:24]  But unfortunately, that means that other stories get left by the wayside.
[00:39:29]  Yes.
[00:39:29]  And so he tries to, like, do a little touch on one of these stories here, and I think he does it about as badly as you can.
[00:39:34]  Okay.
[00:39:34]  Really, you have to understand that this COVID-19 thing is the launch of the New World Order takeover.
[00:39:41]  So everything else is just a side issue.
[00:39:43]  I mean, in Georgia.
[00:39:45]  The original police report said that somebody had been robbing houses, taking fishing equipment, stealing four-wheelers, and that this dude went into the house, and they saw him, and then they got in a fistfight with him, and they shot the guy.
[00:39:58]  I think that's too much lethal force, and I wouldn't have done it, but that's what happens when people look like they're robbing houses, and the media is trying to make a race war out of this.
[00:40:12]  Do I think these guys need to go to prison for what they did?
[00:40:14]  Probably not.
[00:40:16]  Because the guy took swings at them.
[00:40:18]  So Alex is absolutely fudging some of the details here in the case of the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery.

=== Racism On Full Display (04:51) ===

[00:40:23]  It does seem like a lot of white nationalists are fudging details around this one.
[00:40:27]  So the way Alex is presenting this, if you didn't know what he was talking about, it kind of sounds like he's describing a police shooting of somebody who they thought was suspected of breaking into houses.
[00:40:36]  That's not the case.
[00:40:37]  In reality, Arbery was shot by Travis McMichael, whose dad used to be a cop but is not anymore.
[00:40:43]  McMichael and his dad chased down Arbery, who they decided was a suspect for break-ins that had happened in the neighborhood.
[00:40:48]  This was not excessive lethal force being used by police.
[00:40:51]  It was a murder that is being justified by appeals to racism.
[00:40:55]  In the police report, the elder McMichael claimed that he saw Arbery out jogging and decided that he must be a burglar.
[00:41:01]  This makes sense, considering that he wasn't carrying anything, he was in jogging clothes, and it was broad daylight.
[00:41:06]  From the report, quote, This story is contradicted by video that has been released of the altercation, which clearly shows Arbery trying to jog around the McMichaels' truck, at which point a shot is fired.
[00:41:27]  Immediately after that, you see Travis McMichael outside the truck in a bit of a lockup with Arbery, after which there are two more shots.
[00:41:35]  The varying timeline of events and number of shots between McMichael's version of the story and the video is something that I find particularly troubling.
[00:41:42]  And the fact that McMichael is a former cop leads me to believe that he should have a lot of training in the field of reporting events.
[00:41:49]  It's one thing for a random person in the heat of the moment to get some major details wrong.
[00:41:53]  That does happen.
[00:41:54]  It's something else entirely for a former cop to get basic details of an event wrong.
[00:42:01]  It is shocking that a cop would get basic details of an event wrong when they used deadly force.
[00:42:08]  That's so surprising!
[00:42:10]  So, Arbery was killed on February 23rd, and there was no arrest until May 7th.
[00:42:14]  Then, on May 9th, a video was released that appeared to show Arbery walking up to a house under construction, looking around, then leaving.
[00:42:21]  This video has been used by all the, let's call them racists, to argue that Arbery had it coming, and that the McMichaels were well within their rights to kill him.
[00:42:29]  Personally, I've done way worse things at construction sites and no one ever killed me over it.
[00:42:33]  I'll say that full disclosure.
[00:42:36]  Growing up in the Midwest, I think there might be a fairly common experience of fucking around on construction sites.
[00:42:44]  I was really hoping he wouldn't talk about this one.
[00:42:47]  He doesn't talk about it much, to be fair.
[00:42:49]  Yeah, that's good.
[00:42:50]  Because this one is very much a simple litmus test for whether or not you're a giant flaming racist.
[00:42:56]  I think...
[00:42:56]  Yeah.
[00:42:58]  So the argument seems to be that because Arbery looked around a house under construction, the McMichaels had probable cause to do a citizen's arrest, but that doesn't really make sense.
[00:43:07]  They didn't actually see him commit any crimes, so that would be a pretty flimsy defense here, I think.
[00:43:12]  What could easily make sense, you know, as a curious person looking around while maybe in a cool-down on their jog becomes proof of criminality in this case, and it's hard not to think that a racial component has something to do with that.
[00:43:23]  Even if the McMichaels weren't acting from a place of racism, the people bending over backwards to defend them, people like Millie Weaver, certainly are.
[00:43:31]  Ooh, so much.
[00:43:32]  This is a horrible tragedy, and there is a new investigation going on into the matter, and we'll see what happens with that.
[00:43:38]  For now, I want you to take note of how Alex discusses this case and compare it to how he spent month after month yelling about how Katie Steinle was murdered because she was white, and the immigrant couldn't stand that he couldn't be with her.
[00:43:50]  Think about how Alex promoted rallies against immigration in the name of Steinle and set Owen Schroer out to cover them.
[00:43:57]  It's important to recognize these differences, because they are the places you see Alex's racism on full display.
[00:44:02]  He's too savvy to say the N-word or talk about hating non-white people openly, but you can see clearly how differently he engages with situations depending on the races involved.
[00:44:12]  If there's a case of a non-white person accidentally discharging a gun and the bullet ricochets and hits a white woman, it's a case of a brutal murder that was done because the victim was white.
[00:44:21]  If there's a case of two white men chasing down a black man they've decided is a criminal, then shooting him, it's a situation where Alex wouldn't have done it himself, but they didn't do anything wrong because the guy took a swing.
[00:44:31]  This is how his racism is on full display.
[00:44:34]  He's too smart to make it too obvious.
[00:44:37]  Well, I condemn the way they did it, but was it illegal?
[00:44:42]  Yes.
[00:44:42]  That's for the courts to disarm.
[00:44:45]  Right.
[00:44:45]  So when Alex is like, you can never provide proof that I'm a racist.
[00:44:49]  Yeah.
[00:44:49]  I suggest this is all the proof anyone should ever need.
[00:44:53]  Ever.
[00:44:54]  Ever.
[00:44:54]  This is such a simple fucking thing.
[00:44:58]  And the fact that it's all out in the open is disqualifying.

=== Debunking Guinea Pig Hoaxes (11:50) ===

[00:45:03]  It's a mess.
[00:45:03]  Every single person who says anything other than...
[00:45:06]  He was murdered by two fucking modern lynchers is a racist.
[00:45:13]  The end.
[00:45:14]  So, Alex, you know, I don't know if you remember this, but since the coronavirus situation has popped up, a number of times Alex has seen videos and he has decided that shit's real.
[00:45:27]  Because they are.
[00:45:28]  You just know it.
[00:45:29]  100%.
[00:45:29]  Your spirit knows it.
[00:45:31]  It's in your gut, Dan.
[00:45:32]  Yeah.
[00:45:32]  So Alex has been tricked by another hoax.
[00:45:34]  And in trials.
[00:45:36]  Already of COVID-19 in New Guinea, where you get the term guinea pig, no joke, they've already had death on the local news.
[00:45:45]  They come in, they inject the children and the women, and they just start convulsing and dying everywhere.
[00:45:51]  So that's not true.
[00:45:53]  Alex has seen some videos that are making the rounds online that purported to show, quote, the aftermath of a deadly COVID-19 vaccination trial in New Guinea.
[00:46:01]  This was a video, simply put, it was a fraud.
[00:46:04]  Someone took already existing video of people in New Guinea protesting after some children had allegedly gotten sick from a vaccine, and they claimed this footage was related to research and testing of a new COVID-19 vaccine.
[00:46:15]  And what year was that footage from?
[00:46:17]  Well, the actual video is from March 2019, on a news station called Gangam.
[00:46:21]  The actual news report was about a community displeasure after a few children experienced mild side effects like dizziness and fever after being in a, quote, drug treatment program to reduce the prevalence and intensity of the parasitic infection, schistomyosis, also known as snail fever.
[00:46:41]  Gangan's editor-in-chief Sekou Jamal Pandasa told Reuters, quote, The editorial staff of the Gangan RTV group notes with deep regret that some internet users have been allowing themselves since Monday, April 6, 2020, to use one of our old reports to make people believe that there, in recent days, cases of discomfort due to a vaccination campaign in schools in Dubreka.
[00:47:03]  We would like to point out that the report was produced on March 18, 2019.
[00:47:08]  We invite you to refrain from such games during this sensitive period marked by a global health crisis.
[00:47:14]  This makes me think, like I said, of all the times Alex has said he just knows when he sees a video if it's real or not.
[00:47:19]  He just knows!
[00:47:19]  The spirit knows!
[00:47:21]  Here's the reality.
[00:47:22]  The spirit doesn't know shit.
[00:47:23]  He's a lazy propagandist and he falls for hoaxes like this regularly, which he then reports to his audience as fact, because he wants to.
[00:47:30]  They conform to his narratives and thus they feel true to him.
[00:47:33]  The problem is, none of it's real.
[00:47:35]  It's really frustrating that it is an airtight defense to say they're doing what we're doing while you're doing it.
[00:47:42]  Like, it really...
[00:47:44]  Because all the time he's like, oh, they're sending out all these hoax videos and all of this shit is all fake and the media is all liars and all that shit.
[00:47:52]  And all he ever does is...
[00:47:53]  Well, but to be fair...
[00:47:55]  But then he's like, well, we're only doing it because they're doing it.
[00:47:58]  But to be fair, I would be perfectly comfortable assuming that Alex has no idea this is fake.
[00:48:02]  Oh, yeah.
[00:48:03]  No, I agree.
[00:48:04]  I would be...
[00:48:05]  Like, I don't know if this is Kraft or just him being an idiot.
[00:48:08]  Because, I mean, the end result would ultimately be the same.
[00:48:11]  He would report it like this.
[00:48:13]  For sure.
[00:48:13]  Whether he's deceitful.
[00:48:15]  I mean, obviously he's deceitful.
[00:48:16]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:48:17]  But this could easily just be something he saw on a headline on some dumb site that he goes around and is like, oh my god, I can't believe New Guinea.
[00:48:24]  Yeah, what is frustrating is also that it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
[00:48:28]  Well, that's true.
[00:48:29]  Not to him.
[00:48:30]  Also, New Guinea has nothing to do with guinea pigs.
[00:48:32]  New Guinea is an island north of Australia, in Micronesia.
[00:48:38]  Guinea pigs are likely named for their association with Guinea, an old name for the area in Africa around the Gulf of Guinea.
[00:48:45]  And in the 1500s, Guinea was a pretty general term that would be used to describe exotic, far-off places across the sea.
[00:48:51]  There's no real consensus among scholars about exactly how the guinea pig got its name, but one thing that absolutely no one thinks is that it has anything to do with New Guinea.
[00:49:00]  This is just another thing that Alex is making up to sound smart for his audience, but it's based on nothing.
[00:49:05]  In that clip, you heard him report on a hoax video as real, then make up a piece of trivia about guinea pigs, which is standard operation for him.
[00:49:15]  Nothing means anything.
[00:49:17]  Yeah, that one really got me.
[00:49:20]  That one really got me when you just open with, in New Guinea, where guinea pigs are from.
[00:49:25]  So confidently.
[00:49:26]  So confidently.
[00:49:28]  Because he wants the association to be like you do tests on guinea pigs.
[00:49:31]  Exactly.
[00:49:33]  Of course.
[00:49:33]  No, no, no.
[00:49:34]  The math is simple.
[00:49:35]  Right.
[00:49:36]  That's a real frustrating...
[00:49:38]  Everything about this is very angry.
[00:49:40]  Yeah.
[00:49:41]  So Alex, he knows, right?
[00:49:44]  Yes.
[00:49:45]  He knows that there are a bunch of studies that prove that vaccines lower your immunity, right?
[00:49:49]  There aren't.
[00:49:50]  Well, he knows that there are.
[00:49:52]  Okay, but there aren't.
[00:49:52]  And now he's really confused because he sat down to try and find those studies.
[00:49:56]  Right.
[00:49:57]  And now he can't.
[00:49:58]  So therefore, they must be being taken offline.
[00:50:00]  That's the wrong conclusion.
[00:50:02]  And they play all these games.
[00:50:03]  What's crazy is, used to, you could type in, studies show vaccines lower immunity the next year.
[00:50:11]  All those are gone.
[00:50:12]  I spent an hour today.
[00:50:17]  While my children played with my wife in the pool, I wanted to be out there, but I had to find the articles, and I went and found three big studies from just a few years ago about it lowering immunity.
[00:50:28]  But folks, I had to go 50 pages deep.
[00:50:30]  I had to find old articles and link through.
[00:50:32]  It's all nothing, but there is no side effects.
[00:50:35]  Vaccines are perfect.
[00:50:36]  No one ever got hurt.
[00:50:37]  They're totally good.
[00:50:38]  It's all lies.
[00:50:39]  And all these fake doctors and their little lab coats.
[00:50:42]  When I say fake, they're fake people.
[00:50:44]  In their little outfits telling you, oh, vaccines are perfect, there's no side effects, everything's wonderful, oh my god, it's the worst pandemic on earth, all this emotional crap.
[00:50:53]  What are you complaining about these doctors being fake people?
[00:50:56]  Fake doctors?
[00:50:57]  Where guinea pigs are from?
[00:50:59]  I think that has to be a clarification.
[00:51:00]  He's like, I'm not saying they're actors, not saying they're actors, not saying they're actors.
[00:51:04]  They're not even real!
[00:51:05]  God damn it, what am I doing?
[00:51:07]  They're just not on the level, man.
[00:51:08]  What does that even mean?
[00:51:10]  I don't know.
[00:51:11]  That's how you describe a friend.
[00:51:13]  He's a real guy, man.
[00:51:14]  He's a real, real friend.
[00:51:16]  Not doctors.
[00:51:18]  Oh, man, I'm so sick of all these fake doctors out here.
[00:51:21]  They act like they're your friend, you hang out with them, and then you find out the next week they've been talking shit about you with their other real friends.
[00:51:27]  Fake-ass doctors.
[00:51:28]  Goddamn fake doctors.
[00:51:29]  So this is pretty difficult for me, because Alex claims that he found all these studies that he used to be able to find really easily, but now it takes them forever, but he also didn't post any of them on his website or provide literally any indication of how you're supposed to go and find them yourself.
[00:51:41]  Because of that, I really don't know what claims Alex is making or what to go on.
[00:51:46]  In searching Infowars' website, there's a number of articles about immunity issues and vaccines, many of which are just things that Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote and Alex is reposting.
[00:51:54]  In these cases, the claim of weakened immune systems has to do with vaccinating children and the assertion that this, quote, So badly weakened their immune system that they were dying in droves from unrelated infections.
[00:52:05]  That doesn't sound true.
[00:52:07]  This is based on a 2017 study published on eBiomedicine, which, taken at face value, claims that children studied had a five times higher mortality if they had received the diphtheria tetanus pertussis vaccine compared to unvaccinated children.
[00:52:22]  These were children vaccinated between 1984 and 1987, so this isn't even a study about the currently used DTP vaccine, but leaving that aside, there are some problems with this study that folks have pointed out which make its conclusion not entirely reliable.
[00:52:35]  The first is that the study involves a very small sample group.
[00:52:39]  There were only 1,057 children total in the study, which is not enough to generalize conclusions about vaccine effectiveness or side effects on.
[00:52:47]  The biggest problem, however, is that there's nothing in the study that actually shows that any of the children's deaths had anything to do with the vaccine.
[00:52:54]  These are all cause death numbers, which means that the deaths could have been from drowning or some other accident, and they'd still be factored into the rates.
[00:53:02]  And this makes the conclusions very difficult to apply generally.
[00:53:06]  Other studies have not come to the same conclusion, and the argument that vaccines lower your immunity to things other than what the vaccine is targeting, they've been pretty roundly rejected by science.
[00:53:16]  A 2018 report in JAMA, quote, found no statistically significant differences in the level of immunity against non-vaccine targeted infections between their control and experimental groups.
[00:53:26]  Yeah, of course.
[00:53:26]  That might be what Alex is talking about, but I'm only guessing based on what's on his website.
[00:53:31]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:53:31]  There's another argument about vaccines lowering immunity that unsurprisingly comes from Andrew Wakefield.
[00:53:37]  This one is basically that when you use vaccines, you put part of your immune response into hyperaction while the other part is not used and thus is weakened.
[00:53:45]  The basic gist here is that he's saying that you get better immunity by dealing with things naturally, so you should get measles if you want to be immune to it, and if you take a shortcut of vaccines, it'll hurt your cell-mediated response-related immunity.
[00:53:58]  This is nonsense and no one in the medical field takes it seriously.
[00:54:01]  Yeah, that sounds like magic.
[00:54:04]  Sincerely, I'm not sure what precise claim Alex is trying to make, but in trying to sort it out, it's not too hard to find two separate similar ideas, which are both bullshit, being pushed by luminaries of the anti-vax propaganda world, which are very easily debunked ideas.
[00:54:17]  Vaccines do not lower your immunity, and no one is taking studies off the internet.
[00:54:21]  Alex can't find these studies because they probably weren't there to begin with.
[00:54:24]  I imagine he just read some headlines ten years ago and then kept yelling about it and eventually embellished it into being a prestigious study from the most reputable journal known to man, and now when he goes and tries to find it, shockingly nothing comes up.
[00:54:36]  That seems to be what's going on.
[00:54:38]  Yeah, that does have the feel of somebody being like, I have...
[00:54:42]  Okay, okay, fine.
[00:54:43]  You know what?
[00:54:44]  I'm actually gonna prove it this time.
[00:54:45]  I've been screaming about vaccines lowering your immunity for forever, so fuck you.
[00:54:49]  I'm gonna look it up and I'll find it, and I can't...
[00:54:53]  I can't find it.
[00:54:54]  Because they got rid of it.
[00:54:55]  It must be because everybody's stealing it.
[00:54:58]  Because the man, the globalists took it down.
[00:55:00]  It's got to be because they're hiding it now.
[00:55:01]  Cover up.
[00:55:02]  You know how the internet famously allows people to hide things.
[00:55:05]  Yeah, they love it.
[00:55:07]  But look, man, they're not letting you get this vaccine info.
[00:55:10]  Absolutely not.
[00:55:10]  They're trying to get rid of this vaccine.
[00:55:12]  They want the consumers to not have the information they need.
[00:55:15]  They're brainwashing.
[00:55:16]  Alex has an amazing comparison to make.
[00:55:18]  Wonderful.
[00:55:19]  Mic down for this.
[00:55:20]  And now they're just not letting consumers have info.
[00:55:23]  It is beyond T.S. Lewis' The Jungle, the level of abuse of the citizens, the level of the abuse of consumers.
[00:55:31]  I wanted to be sure everyone could hear that.
[00:55:33]  There's no author named T.S. Lewis.
[00:55:35]  It's probably a fun combination of T.S. Eliot and C.S. Lewis, whereas the name Alex is trying to come up with is...
[00:55:42]  Kind of makes sense that Alex doesn't remember that dude's name, though, seeing as Upton Sinclair is a gigantic socialist.
[00:55:47]  He's not a huge fan.
[00:55:48]  It's always fun to pretend to be into someone's book, but also believe that everything that motivated their life's work is devilry.
[00:55:54]  And thus, The Jungle was written by T.S. Lewis.
[00:55:58]  Hey, everybody knows that even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut, Dan, you know?
[00:56:04]  Weird.
[00:56:05]  So, Alex...
[00:56:07]  This next clip is one of the reasons that, like, I mean, I hadn't heard this episode when we put out our episode on Monday where Project Camelot talked to a super soldier.
[00:56:17]  Yeah.
[00:56:17]  But if you listen to this, you kind of understand why I feel like that sort of stuff does fit into the body of our work.
[00:56:25]  One of the Bourne Supremacy movies, the Origin one, I forget the name of it, is very accurate and got into some really secretive research that's been going on since the 70s.

=== Hysterical Strength Explained (12:05) ===

[00:56:34]  But it's now public, that they can have viruses.
[00:56:37]  They're tailored to only eat certain receptors in the brain.
[00:56:41]  And they do tests on these to eat the receptors that say you have a governor where you can really bench press 1,000 pounds but you can only bench press 400 pounds.
[00:56:50]  Or you can really squat 2,000 pounds but you're a weight lifter and you think you can't so you can only squat 700.
[00:56:56]  And so it turns, so now you're superhuman.
[00:56:58]  Okay.
[00:56:59]  So Alex basically believes that there's research that he can make super soldiers.
[00:57:02]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:57:03]  I'm not sure what secret research Alex imagines he's going on as revealed in these movies, but I want to talk a little bit about the real-world research on the subject he's talking about that kind of shows what he's talking about to be childish nonsense.
[00:57:15]  There's a phenomenon known as hysterical strength, where archetypally, you know, it's presented as someone raising up a car to get someone, you know, save someone who's trapped underneath.
[00:57:24]  It's the idea that in moments of severe need, we find ourselves capable of doing things we didn't realize we were capable of.
[00:57:30]  Naturally, this is something that's almost impossible to study in a controlled setting.
[00:57:34]  How could you reliably create the conditions that would be needed to produce this response in a person while controlling for other variables?
[00:57:41]  Basically, you can't.
[00:57:42]  But researchers who work with muscles kind of understand the basic idea without needing to trap a test subject's loved one under a car.
[00:57:49]  No, no.
[00:57:49]  It's like punked.
[00:57:51]  Because you can't let them in that it's an experiment, otherwise they'll know that their kid isn't actually in danger.
[00:57:56]  I don't know if science is going to let Ashton Kutcher...
[00:57:59]  Oh, yeah.
[00:57:59]  You get Ashton...
[00:58:00]  Christian Kutcher to run kids over with cars and then we go from there.
[00:58:03]  I think that's, one, a brilliant TV idea.
[00:58:07]  Sure.
[00:58:07]  And two, a great way to run experiments.
[00:58:10]  So scientists who work with muscles understand this stuff.
[00:58:12]  Like, for instance, you use exactly as much muscle as you need to open your fridge.
[00:58:17]  But if you're doing something that requires more, your body adjusts to it.
[00:58:21]  Like, if you're carrying up a bunch of groceries up a flight of stairs, your muscles allocate more to suit those needs.
[00:58:29]  From an article in the BBC, quote, Why do we keep so much in reserve?
[00:58:48]  Safety, essentially.
[00:58:50]  If we were to exert our muscles to or beyond their absolute maximum, we could tear muscle tissue, ligaments, tendons, and break bones, leaving us in dire straits.
[00:58:58]  That governor in your brain is there because if you were allowed to expend all the available energy your body has to use, you'd probably have died long ago.
[00:59:06]  or at very least you'd be completely debilitated due to all the bodily damage you would have suffered.
[00:59:11]  The people who are lifting cars are only lifting a small part of the car, while two or three wheels remain on the ground distributing the weight.
[00:59:18]  Plus, their bodies are full of adrenaline, and the state of shock will generally disappear.
[00:59:21]  dull any pain that they might be feeling from the heavier lift.
[00:59:24]  And even so, they probably feel pretty fucking sore afterwards.
[00:59:27]  These parts of your brain can be overridden, you know, like that governor.
[00:59:32]  Like in cases when you're trying to escape certain death, your brain realizes that in order to stay alive, higher risks need to be taken.
[00:59:40]  On the other side of that coin, this part of your brain also appears to be overridden when you're on meth or PCP, which may play a role in explaining the seemingly heightened strength of people on those drugs.
[00:59:49]  In each of these cases, however, you're going to be pretty fucked up on the other side of doing whatever it is free of this governor in your brain.
[00:59:56]  That part of your brain's there for a reason.
[00:59:58]  Yeah, it usually helps out whenever you survive long after, instead of just in the immediate.
[01:00:05]  If you do a bunch of meth and you do these crazy feats of strength, when you come down, you're going to be in so much pain.
[01:00:11]  There are no consequences for actions, Dan.
[01:00:13]  How dare you?
[01:00:14]  If there's some kind of a magical thing that allows super soldiers like Jason Bourne to use more of his strength than normal people's brains allow them to, he could maybe operate on the level of an elite athlete.
[01:00:24]  If a person, like a human person, were to do what Alex is imagining, their bodies would not be able to handle it.
[01:00:29]  There are just physiological realities that he's pretending do not exist.
[01:00:33]  The way I would put it is this.
[01:00:35]  If your life is at risk, you could jump down a big drop, break your ankle, and then run a mile to safety.
[01:00:40]  But when you get to safety, your ankle is still going to be broken, and it's going to hurt like hell because you just ran a mile on it.
[01:00:46]  But then again, what the fuck do I know?
[01:00:48]  I haven't watched this Bourne movie, or as Alex puts it, read up on secret research.
[01:00:52]  Maybe I'm just a fucking dum-dum.
[01:00:54]  I don't even remember.
[01:00:54]  I don't think the Bourne movies featured super soldier strength or anything like that.
[01:01:00]  He was just really, really well trained.
[01:01:02]  And they gave him some psychotropic drugs, but he was really, really good at being a spy or whatever.
[01:01:07]  That was it.
[01:01:07]  And new languages or something.
[01:01:08]  Yeah, it was more just like, look at what happens when you're really competent.
[01:01:13]  Like, that's cool.
[01:01:14]  I can't speak to it because I haven't seen those movies, but I'm sure, whatever.
[01:01:19]  Alex got something out of it, so that's great.
[01:01:21]  You can't have your brain drop that governor without consequences, first of all.
[01:01:28]  Second of all, there is a ceiling to it.
[01:01:32]  I don't know.
[01:01:33]  This is all just fantastical thinking, and it's ludicrous.
[01:01:37]  So, Alex, one of his big ideas is this predictive programming stuff, right?
[01:01:42]  The globalists will put stuff on TV that they're going to do later.
[01:01:46]  Exactly, like Bonanza.
[01:01:48]  Sometimes it has to do with...
[01:01:51]  They need to get your permission, right?
[01:01:53]  Of course.
[01:01:53]  Spiritually.
[01:01:53]  There is that.
[01:01:54]  They have to tell you what they're going to do or else there's a karmic debt they have to pay in the afterlife or something.
[01:01:59]  Just like with Carrie who believes that you can only get sick if you allow the virus in.
[01:02:05]  Sometimes there's a metaphysical aspect to it.
[01:02:07]  And then sometimes it's presented as trying to desensitize you to what they're going to do to make it easier.
[01:02:15]  Right.
[01:02:15]  This next clip begins with Alex talking about the predictive programming on that level.
[01:02:21]  The desensitizing level.
[01:02:22]  Then Alex loses his mind and starts screaming about his grandpa.
[01:02:26]  That I believe.
[01:02:26]  Psychologists and psychiatrists know at the high levels, not your pop psychologists and psychiatrists, that if you pre-program somebody and they've seen something in the comfort of their home, that a decade later when they actually see it happen, they'll be comfortable with it because they were eating chips and pizza and having sex with their girlfriend while they learned about something horrible, so their brain files in an area that's non-threatening.
[01:02:47]  That's why my dad's dad saw a lot of combat in World War II.
[01:02:50]  And they'd be in a movie when he was a little kid that had violence.
[01:02:52]  He'd say, we're leaving.
[01:02:53]  It wasn't because he couldn't handle violence.
[01:02:55]  He'd seen a bunch of violence and starving people and arms and legs blown off.
[01:03:00]  He didn't think it was funny.
[01:03:01]  But when you've never seen real violence and you see a bunch of simulated murder, your brain starts thinking it's funny because your brain didn't pay any consequence for it.
[01:03:09]  So now when you're hit with the real thing, you don't know what hit you.
[01:03:13]  So first of all, I'm going to need to see Alex's citation on this stuff from the high-end psychologists who are not pop psychologists.
[01:03:19]  I'll review his information when he tells me what he's actually talking about and where it's coming from in any meaningful way.
[01:03:25]  Beyond that, that clip is fascinating, because I really think it highlights how poorly Alex's brain tracks ideas.
[01:03:30]  It begins with him claiming that there are these high-end non-pop psychologists who, you know, they know that if you see something on TV and then you encounter it later, your brain will associate it with the memory of being at home with pizza, so you'll see it as good.
[01:03:43]  I can definitely tell you that it is not true, from my personal experience in the last few weeks.
[01:03:49]  I've seen people get hit by cars a fuckton in movies and TV shows, sometimes dramas, and sometimes played for humor.
[01:03:55]  It doesn't affect me that much in a movie.
[01:03:57]  When I was walking to the store the other day, a driver turning right didn't see me when I had the walk signal, and I was legit seconds away from getting run over.
[01:04:06]  I heard the car accelerating, and the split second as my brain was putting it all together, you know, is definitely not what I would call associated with being at home eating pizza.
[01:04:14]  My reaction was quite different.
[01:04:16]  Though I'd seen people get hit by cars many times in fiction, this was very different because it was in real life, and my adrenaline rushed, as I was considering jumping on the hood or trying to dive backwards.
[01:04:27]  Thankfully, the driver saw me at the last second, hit the brakes, and nothing happened, but as I was walking the next block, my body was full of that rush you get after encountering danger.
[01:04:36]  Being exposed to those things on TV and movies did not have a desensitizing effect on me, primarily because I know the difference between real life and movies.
[01:04:43]  From this idea, Alex pivots to talking about his grandfather, who didn't want his children to watch violent things in movies and TV because he'd been in World War II.
[01:04:51]  An argument can be made that this is the exact opposite of the point Alex was trying to make.
[01:04:56]  He's saying that seeing X on TV desensitizes you to X in real life, whereas in this example, Alex's grandfather saw X in real life and it made him hypersensitive to seeing it or his kids seeing it on TV.
[01:05:08]  Whether or not this hypersensitivity was driven by a fear that the children would become desensitized to violence, that's another matter.
[01:05:14]  But even if it is the case, this is still a pretty shitty example for Alex to come up with, because it's thematically disconnected from the point he's trying to make.
[01:05:21]  From there, Alex makes the jump to arguing that if you see simulated violence on TV, you think it's funny, so you think that murder's funny in real life.
[01:05:29]  He then weirdly claims that this is because you didn't see any consequences for the fictional violence you saw on TV, which is weird.
[01:05:36]  That's bizarre.
[01:05:37]  I don't know who he's hanging out with to get the idea that a large number of people think real murder is funny, but that's a foreign concept to me.
[01:05:44]  Someone who almost exclusively hangs out with and communicates with people who have seen simulated violence on TV.
[01:05:49]  Yeah.
[01:05:49]  And don't think it's real.
[01:05:51]  Did you at least say, I'm walking here?
[01:05:54]  I didn't.
[01:05:55]  You didn't?
[01:05:56]  No.
[01:05:56]  That's a huge wasted opportunity there.
[01:05:58]  Most people intuitively understand the difference between reality and fictional portrayals of things, and instinctively they react differently to them.
[01:06:05]  The same person who could tolerate seeing the depiction of a murder in a horror movie, or even enjoy it in the context of the movie, would react completely differently.
[01:06:12]  Yeah, do you remember Meet Joe Black?
[01:06:19]  Whenever Brad Pitt's character gets hit by, like, 12 different cars all at the same time?
[01:06:24]  And it's played for laughs like they're...
[01:06:27]  It's the weirdest scene in a movie that I think I've ever seen.
[01:06:30]  Like, meet Brad Pitt and what's-her-face, like, longingly look back at each other, each expecting the other one to look back, and it goes back and forth, like, four different times.
[01:06:41]  And then Brad Pitt just walks into oncoming traffic and gets hit once, bounces up in the air, gets hit again by another car, bounces up in the air, continues getting hit, like, three or four times.
[01:06:51]  And then the scene is basically over and they just move on.
[01:06:54]  I've not seen that movie in a long time.
[01:06:56]  You've seen the GIF?
[01:06:57]  I'm sure I have.
[01:06:58]  And it did not affect the way I responded to almost getting hit by a car.
[01:07:01]  Because reality and movies are different.
[01:07:03]  Wouldn't it be fun if you bounced up and down and then the spiritual embodiment of death took over your body for a while and wooed your paramour?
[01:07:11]  That's ridiculous.
[01:07:12]  Oh, okay.
[01:07:13]  So, there are some studies that suggest that there is a desensitization effect that violent media can have on children and adolescents, but the extent of its effect is almost impossible to pin down precisely.
[01:07:23]  Consider for a second how you would even go about trying to set up that study ethically, like to really track that.
[01:07:29]  Ashton Kutcher?
[01:07:30]  No.
[01:07:30]  Oh, okay, sorry.
[01:07:31]  There are some correlations that people have found, but they're a far cry from the effect that Alex seems to think that movies and TV have on a random person.
[01:07:37]  He's acting like if you see a bomb go off in a movie and you encounter a bomb in your daily life, you're like, oh, it's like that movie.
[01:07:44]  Cool.
[01:07:44]  It was a bomb.
[01:07:45]  Yeah.
[01:07:45]  I've seen bombs before.
[01:07:47]  They make people laugh.
[01:07:48]  I've seen this before and I survived because it was a movie.
[01:07:51]  No, this is just video games desensitize children.
[01:07:55]  It's such bullshit.
[01:07:57]  But it's not just that.
[01:07:58]  Right, right, right, right.
[01:07:59]  Alex's brain operates differently than most people, and he just doesn't seem to recognize the distinction between fiction and reality.
[01:08:06]  He seems to be...
[01:08:08]  It seems to be something he is unwilling or unable to differentiate between.
[01:08:13]  Yeah, there's no blend.
[01:08:15]  I really do think that he doesn't realize that this is something that most people can differentiate, since his confusion around why other people can't see what he sees does seem genuine.
[01:08:24]  That frustration he manifests does seem like someone who's like, it's so clear to me, why don't you get it?

=== Warren Buffett's Pink Conspiracy? (09:19) ===

[01:08:31]  And that is wild to me.
[01:08:36]  Don't you get it?
[01:08:37]  The hammers can fly now, Dan!
[01:08:40]  You just call them to you and the hammer will come directly to you whenever you need it!
[01:08:44]  I'm honestly starting to work on a little bit of a pet theory that this is one of the more strongly correlating things throughout these conspiracy worlds.
[01:08:54]  The inability or unwillingness differentiated between reality and fiction runs so strongly on Infowars, many of the associated people.
[01:09:05]  And Project Camelot and the quote-unquote experts they have, it seems to be one of the defining characteristics.
[01:09:14]  So Alex has that rant, and it leads to how we end the 10th, and of course, it's familiar territory.
[01:09:21]  Your brain starts thinking it's funny because your brain didn't pay any consequence for it.
[01:09:26]  So now when you're hit with the real thing, you don't know what hit you.
[01:09:30]  You're all dead unless you wake up to the scientific dictatorship that created Hitler.
[01:09:39]  You laughed over him saying, I need money, too.
[01:09:42]  Just go straight into an ad.
[01:09:44]  Straight into an ad.
[01:09:47]  So, we wrap up the 10th Sunday show in the books.
[01:09:50]  Yeah.
[01:09:51]  All over the goddamn place.
[01:09:53]  Yeah.
[01:09:53]  Which I kind of appreciate on some levels.
[01:09:55]  I mean, some of the stuff, like, I'd rather him not talk about, like Ahmaud Arbery.
[01:09:58]  Right, right, right.
[01:09:59]  Rather you just leave that alone, Alex.
[01:10:00]  Yeah, you're not allowed.
[01:10:01]  Yeah.
[01:10:02]  But then, like, you know, Viking funerals, pretty fun.
[01:10:05]  Alex's weird fiction reality.
[01:10:08]  Yeah, that's great.
[01:10:08]  New Guinea.
[01:10:09]  Like, some of this stuff.
[01:10:10]  Watch out for Hitler.
[01:10:11]  Sure.
[01:10:11]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:10:12]  Some of this stuff's kind of fun to learn a little bit about.
[01:10:15]  And we jump in on the 11th, and boy, this day, oof.
[01:10:20]  Tell you what, Alex has a goal in mind.
[01:10:23]  Oh, no.
[01:10:24]  If you're a radio listener, well, you're not having to look at me right now, but I am wearing the Bill Gates uniform that now Mark Zuckerberg wears.
[01:10:32]  It is a pink cashmere sweater with a white collared shirt to look like Mr. Rogers or to look non-threatening.
[01:10:44]  I've said it many times that if Hitler wore a pink uniform, he would have won the war because he would have looked non-threatening.
[01:10:50]  This is really funny on a number of levels.
[01:10:53]  The first is that Alex decided this Bill Gates wears pink bit was so good that he decided to wear a pink sweater on air himself so he could riff about it.
[01:11:01]  That'll teach him.
[01:11:01]  You kind of can't help but think he's hoping people online make fun of him so he can be all over Twitter again.
[01:11:06]  Oh yeah!
[01:11:07]  The second part that's hilarious here is that Alex is saying that if Hitler wore pink, he'd be non-threatening.
[01:11:12]  Alex claims to be a military historian, but somehow he doesn't realize that the U.S. Army officer's winter service uniform, starting in the 1920s through 1958, was known as the, quote, pink and greens.
[01:11:23]  The U.S. Army officer uniform during that very time that they were fighting against Hitler literally had pink in the name of it.
[01:11:29]  And that's why we won the war!
[01:11:32]  Sergeant Dan Daly told Military.com that the uniform was called that because, quote, one of the sets of pants had a pink hue to them.
[01:11:38]  Oh, that's nice.
[01:11:39]  Anyway, the point here is that Alex is a complete buffoon, and he doesn't know anything about the topics he's talking about.
[01:11:44]  He's just...
[01:11:45]  I love it.
[01:11:46]  I love the idea that his operation's so fucking incompetent that he's like, you know what?
[01:11:50]  I'm gonna wear fucking pink, and it's gonna be amazing.
[01:11:52]  Everybody's gonna love it.
[01:11:53]  Everybody's gonna love this shit.
[01:11:54]  It's gonna be...
[01:11:55]  It's gonna be wildfire.
[01:11:56]  I'm gonna blow minds.
[01:11:57]  Look at me!
[01:11:59]  Alex Jones wearing pink?
[01:12:00]  Everyone will lose their minds over this!
[01:12:03]  And so I thought maybe it's just like, alright, he's gonna touch on this, then he's gonna get out of business.
[01:12:07]  And as I've always said, if Hitler wore a pink uniform, he would have won World War II because people would have bowed down and said, somebody wearing pink is nothing but good.
[01:12:21]  That's why Bill and Melinda Gates always wear pink in public.
[01:12:24]  It's why.
[01:12:25]  Mark Zuckerberg's gotten rid of his characteristic gray or black t-shirt, and he now wears pink sweaters under his mentor, Bill Gates.
[01:12:34]  I was curious about the claim that Bill Gates always wears pink, so I decided to consult Google Image Search.
[01:12:39]  I took the first 100 images of Gates that came up, and here's how his wardrobe breaks down.
[01:12:44]  Here we go.
[01:12:45]  In 56 of the images, Gates is in a suit.
[01:12:47]  There's a number of recent pictures of him in his sweater that I wouldn't call pink.
[01:12:52]  It's more of a lavender shade of purple, but I could see Alex thinking it was too feminine and yelling pink at it.
[01:12:56]  Yeah, it might as well be pink.
[01:12:57]  Might as well be.
[01:12:58]  There are exactly two pictures of Gates in a pink sweater, and they are both from his 2015 TED Talk about how we aren't ready for the next pandemic that we might face.
[01:13:07]  At least one of these is from a site that's heavily trying to insinuate that this is proof of a conspiracy, which makes me think that Alex might just be seeing a bunch of bullshit conspiracy blogs posting a picture from Gates' five-year-old TED Talk.
[01:13:18]  Which is him making Alex think that he's constantly wearing a pink sweater.
[01:13:23]  As for Zuckerberg, I have no idea where Alex saw him wearing a pink sweater, but I also don't care.
[01:13:28]  This is just a super weird hang-up Alex has about men wearing colors he thinks are feminine.
[01:13:32]  We better pray that he never finds out that Trump wore a pink striped tie to the coronavirus press conference back on May 5th.
[01:13:39]  Or that Trump sells a bunch of different pink ties.
[01:13:42]  Nah, they're not.
[01:13:43]  But they're manly pink ties, Dan.
[01:13:46]  They're the MAGA pink, which is a different hue.
[01:13:50]  I understand.
[01:13:52]  So anyway, I'm just glad that Alex has gotten this out of his system and we can move on to other issues.
[01:13:57]  Warren Buffett more and more wears pink shirts and almost always poses with an ice cream cone.
[01:14:04]  Look, ice cream cone!
[01:14:06]  And it's like, oh, ice cream.
[01:14:08]  He's like a little boy.
[01:14:09]  He's like a little child.
[01:14:11]  He doesn't launder hundreds of billions in drug money.
[01:14:14]  Got caught doing it in 2010.
[01:14:17]  So this obsession with men wearing pink has got to stop.
[01:14:20]  This is too much.
[01:14:22]  If we've reached the point where Alex thinks good, compelling content is just naming off his enemies and discussing the nefarious implications of what they're wearing recently, this show is past its expiration date.
[01:14:33]  This is not hard-hitting stuff.
[01:14:35]  Also, just for fun, I tried to find pictures of Ron Paul wearing pink shirts, and it was super easy.
[01:14:40]  Same for Nigel Farage.
[01:14:42]  I will say that I couldn't find any pictures of Yair Bolsonaro in pink, but that totally makes sense, since he's as invested in performative masculinity as Alex is.
[01:14:51]  It shouldn't surprise anyone to hear that Warren Buffett is almost always photographed in a suit.
[01:14:56]  It's kind of his thing.
[01:14:57]  Well, you know, I can't find any pictures of him wearing pink outside of the possibility of some pink dress shirt and a suit or possibly a pink tie.
[01:15:05]  Also, he doesn't get photographed all the time with ice cream, but he definitely has a few times.
[01:15:09]  And the reason isn't to make him look like a fun, innocent child.
[01:15:12]  It's because Berkshire Hathaway, the holding company that he owns, owns Dairy Queen.
[01:15:17]  I was going to say, yeah, there's.
[01:15:19]  It's so fucking obvious.
[01:15:22]  It's the most ridiculously obvious thing that you could think.
[01:15:26]  But the only reason that he bought Dairy Queen is so later on in life he could fucking broadcast a predictive program.
[01:15:34]  Because it was a good deal.
[01:15:35]  Broadcasting.
[01:15:37]  Also, Warren Buffett didn't get caught money laundering in 2010.
[01:15:40]  But there is a real thing here that Alex is misrepresenting.
[01:15:44]  In 2010, the DEA conducted...
[01:15:46]  And concluded a 22-month investigation that had uncovered billions of dollars that had been laundered by drug cartels through Wachovia Bank, which by that point in 2010 had been bought by Wells Fargo, of which Berkshire Hathaway is the fifth largest shareholder.
[01:16:00]  Wells Fargo didn't acquire Wachovia until 2008, so this is definitely a pre-existing issue to Berkshire's involvement with the bank.
[01:16:08]  There's definitely some shady shit going on with Wachovia, particularly during the 2004-2007 time frame, but to imagine that somehow Warren Buffett was involved in that is ludicrous.
[01:16:18]  Alex is just desperate to lash out at his imagined enemies to the point where he'll just outright make false accusations, because he's been trained that there are no consequences for that.
[01:16:26]  Buffett is too busy to sue Alex for this clear instance of defamation, and Alex knows it.
[01:16:32]  There's just enough reality to the story that Wachovia did get in trouble for laundering drug money in 2010, and Alex knows that his listeners will find a headline about that and decide that Alex's story about it is true.
[01:16:42]  He's just the most pampered of radio personalities when you get right down to it.
[01:16:46]  He has the easiest fucking job imaginable.
[01:16:49]  Too frustrating and time-consuming to sue him, and just a trained audience full of people who will just be like, Oh, he is right!
[01:16:58]  I saw a headline!
[01:17:00]  Yeah, I think people would not appreciate our show if we just listed people and talked about what they wore.
[01:17:08]  Although we might want to consider it because I think it would be easier.
[01:17:11]  Oh, you're right.
[01:17:12]  You're right.
[01:17:13]  I could spend a lot more time coming up with marinade.
[01:17:15]  Just Google image search different people and look, Mitch McConnell, he wore that thing.
[01:17:20]  So he's, yeah, that proves it.
[01:17:22]  And he's got sevens on his stuff and that's obviously the unbeast or whatever it is.
[01:17:28]  The real devil.

=== San Antonio's Stigmatization Law (10:29) ===

[01:17:29]  They want you to think it's sixes.
[01:17:30]  Of course.
[01:17:31]  The greatest trick the devil level pulled was figuring out numbers.
[01:17:36]  So, Alex has another story here to get into.
[01:17:39]  Thankfully, it has nothing to do with the color pink.
[01:17:41]  I was getting a little tired.
[01:17:43]  It's time for green!
[01:17:45]  Nope.
[01:17:45]  San Antonio passed a law last Thursday saying you'll be arrested if you say Chinese virus.
[01:17:52]  They said because the WHO says it doesn't come from China.
[01:17:57]  And I guess the WHO could say the moon is...
[01:18:00]  Made of cheese, so.
[01:18:02]  Ha ha.
[01:18:02]  So, last week, the San Antonio City Council passed a resolution that just roundly denounced the use of the terms Chinese virus and Kung Fu virus as being racist.
[01:18:11]  At no point in the resolution does it say you'll be arrested for using those terms.
[01:18:14]  It's really more just a declaration of a commitment to protect the safety and dignity of the Asian residents of the city.
[01:18:20]  Alex doesn't bring this up here, but there's also a bit in this resolution about anti-Semitism, which has been mocked by a bunch of people on the extreme right wing.
[01:18:28]  They feign ignorance and pretend that the city council is just crazy.
[01:18:32]  How's saying Chinese virus anti-Semitic?
[01:18:34]  These loony left-wing safe space nuts are out of control.
[01:18:38]  And the resolution perfectly spells that out if you actually read it.
[01:18:41]  Reading is hard for them, though.
[01:18:43]  In the preamble to the resolution, they include, quote, whereas the Jewish community has been targeted with blame, hate, anti-Semitic tropes, and conspiracy theories about their creating, spreading, and profiting from COVID-19.
[01:18:54]  The city council was making a point of calling out the nature of propaganda surrounding COVID-19, which is good, but it also opens the door to the very people relying on those anti-Semitic tropes and conspiracy theories to play dumb and pretend they don't get the point.
[01:19:07]  But they're always going to do that anyway.
[01:19:09]  Man, my birthday, the first thing my dad texted me that morning was...
[01:19:13]  Oh, happy birthday, by the way.
[01:19:14]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:19:15]  He, like, legit, like...
[01:19:18]  Hey, how you doing with the Kung Flu?
[01:19:21]  And I texted him back.
[01:19:22]  I was like, I would appreciate it if you didn't use that.
[01:19:25]  Not a great present.
[01:19:26]  Yeah, thanks.
[01:19:27]  Happy birthday.
[01:19:28]  Like, that fucked up my whole day.
[01:19:29]  I'm sure.
[01:19:30]  Like, it really fucked me up.
[01:19:31]  That's a bummer.
[01:19:32]  And I was like, please don't.
[01:19:33]  I would appreciate you didn't do that.
[01:19:35]  And then he texted back, it is what it is.
[01:19:36]  And I have not spoken to him since then.
[01:19:39]  Wow.
[01:19:40]  Yikes.
[01:19:42]  I've spent in my head all day writing this whole, like, the only reason that you associate diseases with a certain group of people is to set the groundwork for a pogrom later on.
[01:19:52]  Or to some kind of stigmatization.
[01:19:54]  Yeah, there's just no way to deal with it.
[01:19:57]  I'm sorry to hear that.
[01:19:58]  What a bummer.
[01:19:59]  It's real fucked.
[01:20:01]  So, I don't think, I don't mean to make light of this, just move along.
[01:20:05]  No, no, no, please.
[01:20:06]  Let's move along.
[01:20:06]  I mean, there's nothing else to say other than that's a bummer.
[01:20:08]  I can't be more furious.
[01:20:09]  Yeah.
[01:20:10]  It doesn't get higher.
[01:20:11]  Yeah.
[01:20:11]  So, I don't think that the World Health Organization has ever said that the virus didn't originate in China.
[01:20:16]  It's just that calling it the China virus is a meaningless name that can only be used to stigmatize, so they discourage it.
[01:20:22]  In the preamble to the resolution, they say, quote, That's the only time the World Health Organization comes up, and it makes perfect sense what they're saying.
[01:20:41]  Alex is lying, saying that the San Antonio City Council is saying that the World Health Organization says the virus didn't originate in China because he's a liar, and that lie works better for him.
[01:20:51]  So, if you're keeping score, in the 16-second clip that we listened to, Alex lied about the idea that this resolution was a bill to arrest people for saying Chinese virus, and followed that up with a lie about the World Health Organization saying the virus didn't originate in China.
[01:21:05]  It's like he's trying to set records.
[01:21:07]  It's amazing.
[01:21:08]  Land speed records.
[01:21:10]  I mean, even in the function of their conspiracy theory.
[01:21:15]  Even if the Chinese government somehow created this and then released it, it's not the Chinese people who released it.
[01:21:23]  It's the Chinese people who are going to suffer from you associating it with China.
[01:21:27]  That is what's going to happen.
[01:21:29]  It's the people who are going to get fucked up.
[01:21:31]  It's not like you calling it the Kung Flu is going to really shove it in Xi's eyes.
[01:21:35]  Yeah, most likely.
[01:21:44]  That's the consequence that you're willing into existence.
[01:21:47]  Somebody who had nothing to do with anything.
[01:21:49]  The Chinese government isn't going to be effective.
[01:21:51]  Oh, you got us.
[01:21:53]  Cool.
[01:21:54]  So, this episode got off to a rocky start.
[01:21:57]  A lot of focus on pink.
[01:21:59]  But thankfully, I feel like we're free of that now and we can move on.
[01:22:04]  David Icke had his little nod to Bill Gates with his little pink shirt.
[01:22:08]  There we go.
[01:22:08]  Well, now I am wearing the pink shirt.
[01:22:11]  Just to all show that we can be trusted.
[01:22:14]  Look, I'm wearing pink.
[01:22:16]  Oh my god.
[01:22:17]  It just won't end.
[01:22:19]  This is a very desperate.
[01:22:20]  Tell me now.
[01:22:21]  Tell me now, Dan.
[01:22:22]  Sad attempt.
[01:22:23]  How many clips are we going to hear?
[01:22:24]  Of pink shirt talk?
[01:22:26]  We might be done for now.
[01:22:28]  Although it is really funny because David Icke is on the show.
[01:22:32]  Of course.
[01:22:32]  He comes up later.
[01:22:33]  Yeah.
[01:22:33]  And Alex has said that David Icke wore a pink sweater to stick it to the Bill Gates.
[01:22:41]  And we'll revisit that once David Icke is back on the show.
[01:22:44]  Yeah, I imagine so.
[01:22:45]  So Alex gets to reading some headlines here, and you can tell from the way he's delivering these headlines that, man, you do not have a rebuttal for any of this shit.
[01:22:55]  The virus spread accelerates in Germany.
[01:22:58]  Contagion within the White House would be catastrophic for U.S. national security.
[01:23:04]  GOP senators worry Trump COVID-19 could cost them the majority.
[01:23:10]  AP exclusive.
[01:23:11]  Doc show.
[01:23:13]  Top White House officials buried.
[01:23:15]  CDC report.
[01:23:19]  But depending on the graph, they're 50 to 10 times lower COVID-19 death rates than they predicted.
[01:23:26]  And the very same groups now put out all these new fake numbers.
[01:23:30]  And Trump's like, no, I'm not putting these numbers out predicting giant deaths and millions more cases because he goes, I don't trust your testing.
[01:23:38]  See, that's Alex Jones right there, doing a stupid mocking voice about a public health crisis because he has literally no other tools at his disposal to address these stories.
[01:23:47]  He also can't ignore them, and I think he thought he'd get more mileage out of the pink sweater than he did.
[01:23:52]  The one about the virus rates in Germany, I'm just going to leave that alone.
[01:23:55]  Not because I don't care, but because it's kind of complicated and it's secondary to what Alex is talking about.
[01:24:00]  Alex knows that he can't not address the fact that Mike Pence's staffer, Katie Miller, tested positive for COVID-19.
[01:24:06]  It's too big of a story, and the possible implications of it are things that he doesn't want to have to play catch-up with later.
[01:24:12]  If she was infectious, the number of people who were possibly exposed to the virus include most of the executive branch leadership.
[01:24:19]  Miller's husband is Stephen Miller, a high-level advisor to Trump, and she works for Pence.
[01:24:24]  This could be a disease vector that touches a whole lot of folks, and some of them, like Trump, are in high-risk populations with the virus.
[01:24:31]  It's not something that Alex can really ignore.
[01:24:34]  Alex knows he has to touch on this, but there's not much he can do.
[01:24:37]  If he says that it's the globalists infected her to try to get to Trump, this is basically an assassination attempt.
[01:24:43]  And I think that he knows that this is an escalation of his rhetoric that he probably shouldn't make.
[01:24:47]  The globalists are trying to kill the president and then the president tests positive.
[01:24:50]  Well, guess what?
[01:24:51]  It's fine if he, like, I guess for Alex to be like, they're gonna take him out or something.
[01:24:55]  But this is too concrete.
[01:24:57]  This is too real.
[01:24:57]  If he's saying there's a current attempt on the president's life, he's basically greenlighting all of his gone weirdo listeners to do whatever they feel like they need to do.
[01:25:05]  And even he knows that's dangerous.
[01:25:07]  So what are you left with?
[01:25:08]  There's no real option for covering that story other than to read it in a mocking tone.
[01:25:12]  This is like a bully who has no comeback, who resorts to doing a dumb voice like that makes a point.
[01:25:17]  Like that makes a point.
[01:25:20]  Like that makes a point.
[01:25:21]  Right.
[01:25:22]  And that last story there is where this pattern is really on full display.
[01:25:26]  Alex has absolutely no good explanation for why the Trump administration buried that CDC report.
[01:25:32]  And the way he's talking about it makes it clear that Alex doesn't actually even understand the story.
[01:25:36]  Alex seems to think that it's a story that has something to do with projections and graphs.
[01:25:40]  In reality, the report that Trump shelved was, quote, detailed advice from the nation's top disease control experts for reopening communities during the coronavirus pandemic.
[01:25:50]  Presumably, Alex and all of his friends, their goal is to reopen the country, so it seems weird that the CDC came out with a detailed plan to help communities do just that, and then the White House shelved the report on April 30th.
[01:26:02]  That seems weird.
[01:26:03]  I have a theory.
[01:26:04]  Oh, do you?
[01:26:05]  I think maybe he disagreed with the report.
[01:26:09]  I think he was like, I don't like this report.
[01:26:13]  Seems hard.
[01:26:14]  So I'm going to not have it.
[01:26:16]  Maybe.
[01:26:16]  That could be.
[01:26:17]  So the Associated Press obtained emails that proved that the head of the CDC, Redfield, had approved this report and sent it to the White House for approval, but they killed it.
[01:26:26]  And a, quote, staffer at the CDC was told, we would not even be allowed to post the decision trees.
[01:26:31]  On May 7th, the Associated Press reported on this buried document, which looks really bad.
[01:26:36]  What looks even worse is that according to ABC News, quote, There's clear intention here, and none of it's good.
[01:26:57]  It's the sort of thing where obviously Trump wanted to reopen everything in a pretty roughshod, uncontrolled way, whereas the CDC's guidance was much more careful and measured, which would be slower and kind of a bummer.
[01:27:07]  Instead of letting the expert advice be released, they covered it up, and when what's the evidence of the report was reported on by the Associated Press, the administration tried to cover up that cover-up by demanding the report be refiled.
[01:27:18]  It's all pathetically transparent stuff, and Alex knows that he has absolutely no good argument for why Trump would act like that.
[01:27:24]  If the goal is to safely reopen the country, His actions make no sense.
[01:27:28]  So Alex comes up with a completely fictional version of the story that has to do with these narratives where he misrepresents death projections from January.
[01:27:35]  This is the best he can do.
[01:27:37]  He's reading headlines about a very serious thing, like high-level White House staffers testing positive for the virus, or Trump burying reports that could end up jeopardizing public health.

=== Barr's Rationalization (10:25) ===

[01:27:47]  He reads them in a mocking tone.
[01:27:48]  I don't even know why he's doing the show anymore.
[01:27:51]  If that's the best he's got, that's ridiculous.
[01:27:54]  You can be very large and yet still be a child on the inside.
[01:27:58]  Did you know that?
[01:27:58]  Did you know that your physical body keeps growing even if your maturity in the head part doesn't change?
[01:28:06]  I don't know how you feel good about this work.
[01:28:08]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:28:11]  Money!
[01:28:13]  If you want money, you feel good.
[01:28:14]  I try pretty hard on this show, and I still will sometimes walk away with like, I could have done better.
[01:28:19]  I can't imagine what I would feel like if I just went in on our podcast and was like, I can imagine what it feels like.
[01:28:27]  Freedom.
[01:28:28]  It feels like complete freedom.
[01:28:30]  We gotta work our way towards a show where I can just make mouth noises.
[01:28:38]  That's a great show.
[01:28:39]  Thanks.
[01:28:39]  Spin-off.
[01:28:40]  Alright, let's do it.
[01:28:41]  So, in this episode, Alex keeps saying that he has, like, clips of Bill Gates saying that he wants to kill children.
[01:28:52]  Of course he does.
[01:28:52]  Right?
[01:28:53]  Yeah!
[01:28:53]  And I'm like, no you don't.
[01:28:55]  No, he does.
[01:28:55]  And then he ends up playing it, and this is so sad.
[01:28:59]  Here's a few clips of Bill Gates talking about...
[01:29:05]  Childhood death and depopulation, and of course we have clips of him talking about death panels, get rid of old people.
[01:29:10]  But here's some of the things he said recently.
[01:29:13]  Chance for us to share things like reducing childhood death and improving the nutrition.
[01:29:21]  So it's a chance for us to travel to Africa, meet with scientists.
[01:29:24]  We see a lot of things that are going very well, things like reducing childhood death.
[01:29:31]  Improving the nutrition.
[01:29:33]  So, travel to Africa, meet with scientists.
[01:29:35]  We see a lot of things that are going very well.
[01:29:39]  Things like reducing childhood death.
[01:29:41]  So, he clearly is saying reduce.
[01:29:43]  And Alex is thinking he says produce.
[01:29:46]  Yep.
[01:29:46]  So, they played the clip again.
[01:29:48]  And it's on a loop, too.
[01:29:50]  And it's on a loop.
[01:29:51]  And then it's even worse because they play it slowed down and it's even more like reduce things like producing childhood.
[01:30:00]  That doesn't sound like produce.
[01:30:02]  Wow.
[01:30:03]  But this is the smoking gun that Bill Gates looked really excited while talking about producing childhood.
[01:30:10]  Did Geraldo just open a vault?
[01:30:13]  What the fuck just happened there?
[01:30:15]  That is wild.
[01:30:16]  Oh, man.
[01:30:17]  He could.
[01:30:18]  Did he not listen to it?
[01:30:20]  I mean...
[01:30:22]  I don't know.
[01:30:23]  It could just be motivated hearing.
[01:30:25]  Because, you know, sometimes when you tell yourself, like, if I told myself to hear produce there, I probably could.
[01:30:31]  Right.
[01:30:31]  But it's pretty clear he's saying reduce.
[01:30:33]  It would take a lot of mental effort to be like...
[01:30:37]  You have to want it.
[01:30:37]  Yeah, you gotta really want it.
[01:30:39]  Yeah.
[01:30:40]  So, in this next clip, Alex gets to the issues surrounding the Department of Justice dropping the case against General Flynn.
[01:30:47]  Oh, because it's very clear intent on Bill Barr's part to cover...
[01:30:52]  Cover up a crime.
[01:30:53]  Big hero.
[01:30:53]  No, he's covering it up because that's what he's...
[01:30:56]  Hero.
[01:30:56]  He was hired to cover up crimes.
[01:30:58]  That's literally why...
[01:31:00]  The only reason you hire Bill Barr is to cover up crimes.
[01:31:03]  I feel like you're not hearing me.
[01:31:04]  I said hero.
[01:31:05]  Nope.
[01:31:05]  I'm pretty sure that he admitted to lying to the FBI.
[01:31:09]  Probably committed way more crimes than that.
[01:31:12]  So, in covering this story, Alex has decided to focus on Chuck Todd on Meet the Press.
[01:31:18]  That's a good call.
[01:31:19]  Right.
[01:31:20]  And then, of course, we've got the situation coming out with General Flynn and some of the articles dealing with that on Infowars.com.
[01:31:31]  How now even the DOJ is slamming NBC's Chuck Todd over deceptive editing of A.G. Barr interview.
[01:31:38]  Yeah, how does that feel, Barr, when the media lies about what you say and then comes after you?
[01:31:50]  I've had the Attorney General in New York who were considering legal action against me now say that I claim I have a cure to COVID-19 or a treatment.
[01:31:58]  I never said any such thing.
[01:32:00]  Kind of did.
[01:32:01]  But yeah, I love you.
[01:32:02]  You just got to make it about yourself.
[01:32:03]  Got to make it about yourself, no matter what.
[01:32:06]  So Chuck Todd on Meet the Press interviewed Attorney General Barr and asked him, quote, when history looks back on this decision, how do you think it will be written?
[01:32:14]  On the show, Barr's response was, quote, well, history is written by the winners, so it largely depends on who's writing the history.
[01:32:21]  The full answer that Barr gave was, quote, well, history is written by the winners, so it largely depends on who's writing the history.
[01:32:27]  But I think a fair history would say that it was a good decision because it upheld the rule of law.
[01:32:32]  It helped, it upheld the standards of the Department of Justice, and it undid what was an injustice.
[01:32:37]  I see both sides of this.
[01:32:39]  Chuck Todd very clearly did a bad job here, and misrepresented the full context of what Barr said, and it's very hard for me to imagine that wasn't a decision that he made.
[01:32:48]  So fuck him.
[01:32:49]  But that being said, even with the full context, Barr's comment is fucking chilling and scary.
[01:32:55]  His first thought is still that history is written by the winners, and then he clarifies that he thinks what he did was a good decision based on the rule of law, and that any fair history would show that.
[01:33:04]  Feels kind of like rationalization of the immediate answer that even he must have realized sounded a little bit villainous.
[01:33:10]  Yeah, that is a little bit like, well, so long as we remain in power forever, I think it'll be a great decision, guys.
[01:33:18]  It's the kind of thing where it's like, I think that answer, even with the full answer, is fucked up.
[01:33:22]  No, it's terrifying.
[01:33:23]  But that doesn't excuse what Chuck Todd, the way he presented it.
[01:33:28]  Even though...
[01:33:29]  I mean, honestly...
[01:33:30]  I don't think it matters because the rest of it was a lie anyways.
[01:33:34]  Sure.
[01:33:35]  Even Bill Barr in his heart can possibly believe that what he did would be treated fairly by history.
[01:33:44]  But at the same time, jeers must go to Chuck Todd.
[01:33:49]  I don't even care.
[01:33:51]  You cannot care?
[01:33:52]  I don't think so.
[01:33:53]  I think in terms of being a fair actor and looking at the things...
[01:33:58]  That is a misrepresentation.
[01:34:01]  Because Chuck Todd did also say that he didn't justify this based on the rule of law.
[01:34:05]  For sure.
[01:34:06]  That is a concrete misrepresentation.
[01:34:10]  Now, you could say on the spirit of things, fine.
[01:34:13]  But that's not what Chuck Todd's job is.
[01:34:15]  No, I understand.
[01:34:17]  My feeling is we're getting abused by being fair.
[01:34:25]  And it is abuse for William Barr to pretend anything other than that he's covering up a crime.
[01:34:31]  Fine.
[01:34:32]  I'm abused by it.
[01:34:33]  Fine.
[01:34:33]  I don't think Chuck Todd should have done an interview with him, period.
[01:34:37]  I can agree with...
[01:34:37]  Because he's just going to lie.
[01:34:38]  I can agree with that conclusion, but I can't use that agreement or that conclusion.
[01:34:43]  To justify misrepresenting a person on a news show.
[01:34:46]  I agree with you.
[01:34:47]  You deteriorate the entire point of what you're doing.
[01:34:50]  I agree.
[01:34:51]  And in the process, you don't achieve the goal that you want to.
[01:34:54]  You give firepower to the people that would provide cover for the cover-up.
[01:34:57]  Or whatever.
[01:34:58]  I think it's...
[01:34:59]  I don't know.
[01:35:00]  My issue is letting him talk in the first place.
[01:35:03]  Fair enough.
[01:35:04]  And another sort of show could, I don't know, justify...
[01:35:09]  Like, if it was Sacha Baron Cohen.
[01:35:11]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:35:13]  But that's not what Chuck Todd's doing.
[01:35:15]  No.
[01:35:15]  But while we're on the subject of things being taken out of context, I should bring up that one of the major sources of justification for the Department of Justice dropping their case against Michael Flynn has come out and said that her words were being used inappropriately as support for a conclusion she actually opposes.
[01:35:30]  Former Acting Attorney General for National Security Mary McCord wrote an op-ed in the New York Times that includes the following, quote, The FBI had no counterintelligence reason for investigating Mr. Flynn.
[01:35:55]  It does not suggest that the FBI's interview of Mr. Flynn, which led to the false statements charge, was unlawful or unjustified.
[01:36:03]  Yeah.
[01:36:19]  The working theory, according to some legal experts, is that there was not good cause to drop the case against Flynn, but the Department of Justice came up with a weird technicality argument in order to avoid Trump trying to pardon him, which would have been a real clusterfuck.
[01:36:32]  It would have been a mess that no one in Trump's administration would want to try and do.
[01:36:37]  Yeah, they will.
[01:36:37]  Well, they don't have to now.
[01:36:40]  No, they don't have to now.
[01:36:41]  That's true.
[01:36:41]  The Department of Justice argued that the lies that Flynn told the FBI were not material lies, which is to say that they weren't relevant to other cases, and therefore lying about those things is not a crime.
[01:36:51]  This is not a very solid argument.
[01:36:53]  And in a sane world, this would probably trigger an independent investigation into how the DOJ came to this conclusion.
[01:36:59]  Alas, we don't live in a sane world, and so here we are.
[01:37:02]  And here again, we have Alex looking up to Bill Barr.
[01:37:05]  A guy who he should absolutely, unequivocally hate, based on everything he pretends to stand for and all of the issues that his career is based on.
[01:37:13]  I just don't understand how it wasn't immediately an arrestable offense to hire Bill Barr.
[01:37:19]  It should be a red flag.
[01:37:21]  Because that's literally like saying, oh yeah, no, I committed crimes.
[01:37:24]  That's why I'm hiring Bill Barr.
[01:37:26]  Remember when Bill Barr was the previous...
[01:37:28]  Remember when he was the Attorney General before and he covered up all those crimes?
[01:37:31]  That's why I hired him.
[01:37:33]  And it should be something that completely fractured Trump's base.
[01:37:36]  It should have been something that lost him all of the right-wing support.
[01:37:40]  Because they know who he is.
[01:37:42]  Or they should know who he is.
[01:37:44]  He's covered up all their crimes.
[01:37:46]  Not that part of the right wing.
[01:37:47]  That's true.
[01:37:48]  That's true.
[01:37:48]  That's a different part of the right wing.
[01:37:49]  I'm talking about his association with like Ruby Ridge and Iran-Contra are problems for the Patriot militia right wing.

=== Misreporting Flu Deaths (03:52) ===

[01:37:57]  They should have seen Trump even thinking about hiring him and been like, if he does that, we're out.
[01:38:02]  And then Trump should have, I guess he played it right because it turns out they don't care.
[01:38:07]  They don't care.
[01:38:08]  They don't care.
[01:38:09]  He's murdering them right now and they don't care.
[01:38:11]  So, we get back to talking about Sweden, because it's Alex's favorite country or something.
[01:38:15]  Uh-huh.
[01:38:16]  And so he talks about the death toll from the virus in Sweden, and then he just makes some stuff up.
[01:38:22]  Cool.
[01:38:22]  How many people we got dead in Sweden?
[01:38:24]  Let's see the numbers in Sweden for me.
[01:38:27]  Pretty please, cupcakes on top.
[01:38:30]  3,256 in Sweden.
[01:38:36]  What's the flu usually kill in Sweden every year?
[01:38:38]  I was looking it up, about 15,000.
[01:38:42]  Of course, there's no deaths now in the U.S. from flu because they're all attributed to COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID.
[01:38:49]  They ought to have that as the new European siren on police cars instead of...
[01:38:53]  It's COVID, COVID, COVID.
[01:38:58]  Oh, what in a civilization?
[01:38:59]  Oh, a panic over a virus?
[01:39:01]  This show is good.
[01:39:03]  So we have two claims being made there, so let's look at them one at a time.
[01:39:06]  The first is that there were 15,000 flu deaths in Sweden a year.
[01:39:10]  That's a claim that Alex is making.
[01:39:13]  Data published about the 2018-2019 flu season showed that labs in Sweden only reported 13,757 total cases.
[01:39:21]  So that number he's got seems to be a little bit high.
[01:39:25]  They reported 505 of these people died within 30 days of their diagnosis.
[01:39:30]  To give you some idea of the scale.
[01:39:33]  In the 2011-2020 season, the death toll almost hit 1,000.
[01:39:37]  And from every indication I can find, Alex is just making up that number about Swedish flu deaths.
[01:39:41]  If his number were accurate and you applied that rate based on Sweden's population to the United States, we would have about 492,000 flu deaths per year, which again leads me to believe that Alex is just making this up.
[01:39:53]  Ah, those are all COVID deaths now, Dan.
[01:39:56]  Maybe he just saw that they had about 14,000 cases last year, and he's misrepresenting that and misreporting it as deaths.
[01:40:03]  Whatever the case, he's just presenting bad information to his audience authoritatively, which is lame.
[01:40:08]  Also, Alex's claim that there's no cases of flu being reported because they're all being called COVID-19 is a complete lie.
[01:40:14]  You can easily find data on the CDC's website that reflects newly reported cases of influenza that are confirmed each week.
[01:40:20]  The number is going drastically downward because flu season is pretty much over, as it usually ends around the end of March or in April.
[01:40:28]  There are still 21 new cases in Week 18 of 2020, which ended May 2nd, and 26 cases the week prior.
[01:40:35]  You can find week-by-week data for influenza-related deaths on the website, too.
[01:40:39]  Week 18 had 20 deaths, and Week 17 had 106.
[01:40:44]  If you look at their data for previous years, this is pretty much the very common pattern for flu seasons, where deaths slowly increase as the season begins, and then they gradually go down as we come to the end of the season.
[01:40:55]  This drop typically comes in week 16 to 19 of the year and sometimes a little bit earlier, so this is all very normal patterns.
[01:41:03]  Not just calling all flu deaths COVID-19.
[01:41:05]  And there's very easily available data that shows that health officials are still counting flu deaths.
[01:41:10]  Alex is just making this up because it's important for his narrative to minimize the danger of COVID-19 and because he's a lazy fucking fraud.
[01:41:17]  Yeah.
[01:41:18]  Which makes me actually kind of happy to hear this next clip where Alex basically just admits that his life's work has amounted to nothing.
[01:41:26]  I'm actually now moving to the country.
[01:41:28]  I'm actually building the armored fortress.

=== Critically-Minded Resistance (10:15) ===

[01:41:32]  It looks like a farmhouse, but it's going to have steel walls.
[01:41:35]  I'm actually giving up on folks.
[01:41:37]  I mean, spiritually, we've got to get people right with God.
[01:41:40]  We're going to try to fix things.
[01:41:41]  But we failed to stop the globalist takeover at this level.
[01:41:44]  We knew it would be a biological weapon attack.
[01:41:46]  We first said it would be a simulant to lock you down.
[01:41:49]  Been telling you that since Endgame, 2007.
[01:41:53]  And then the real bioattacks come after this.
[01:41:55]  Well, you failed.
[01:41:57]  The whole point was to stop the globalists.
[01:41:59]  You failed.
[01:41:59]  So you've done nothing.
[01:42:02]  Yeah, that's a fitting end.
[01:42:03]  That is a fitting end.
[01:42:05]  He's accomplished nothing in his entire life.
[01:42:07]  And he should be ashamed of himself for being such a huge failure.
[01:42:11]  Even in his own fake reality, he's a giant failure.
[01:42:15]  Let alone in reality reality where he's a massive destructive failure.
[01:42:19]  But I also think it was inevitable.
[01:42:21]  I think that Alex's operation is doomed to failure to begin with.
[01:42:25]  Because it doesn't mean anything.
[01:42:26]  Like, none of the stuff he's talking about goes anywhere.
[01:42:29]  It's all bullshit.
[01:42:30]  So, like, basically, if you have smart, engaged, competent people in your audience, they're gonna end up looking into the things that you say, and eventually they're gonna be like, this guy's full of shit, and they're gonna move on.
[01:42:40]  You're not going to be able to retain a decent audience of engaged, critical people in the audience.
[01:42:47]  Yeah.
[01:42:47]  So that self-selects for people who are gullible.
[01:42:50]  Mm-hmm.
[01:42:53]  Right.
[01:42:53]  Yep.
[01:42:54]  So you have that as your audience base.
[01:42:56]  And eventually, over time, maybe some of them will start to realize that nothing ever happens.
[01:43:01]  Right.
[01:43:02]  They start to realize, well, we're on the cusp of this great war against the globalists.
[01:43:06]  And eventually that might disenchant some of them.
[01:43:09]  Yeah.
[01:43:09]  Now, some of them will respond to this by turning off their critical thinking that's in their brain.
[01:43:14]  Right.
[01:43:15]  Right.
[01:43:15]  They'll just be like, eh, fuck it.
[01:43:16]  Whatever Alex says is right is right.
[01:43:19]  They're 100% on the ride with him wherever it goes.
[01:43:22]  You could say they've given up and have failed in their day.
[01:43:24]  Sure.
[01:43:25]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:43:25]  And they'll just go along with it.
[01:43:27]  Like, Alex is the only one telling the truth, whatever.
[01:43:30]  Cultish devotion to the Infowar.
[01:43:32]  Yep.
[01:43:32]  The other subset of people are going to be like, Alex is not doing it.
[01:43:37]  They'll find some other conspiracy.
[01:43:39]  Maybe it's QAnon.
[01:43:41]  Maybe it's some other guru in that world.
[01:43:45]  piece of their story be like, hey, Alex is controlled opposition.
[01:43:50]  Yep.
[01:43:50]  Because that way they can start being conned by someone else and pretend that they've woken up.
[01:43:56]  Yep.
[01:43:57]  They can pretend that they've seen through the bullshit and And Alex was conning them, but this one isn't.
[01:44:02]  And so now they're out of Alex's revenue stream, and that basically leaves a Constantly inward and outward flow of people who get tired of the bullshit and move along.
[01:44:13]  And the only people who really stick around are people who have been trained and coached to turn off all sort of critical thinking capabilities that they have.
[01:44:21]  And that is not...
[01:44:22]  I mean, you know, you can go for quite a while, apparently, using that as a fundraising base.
[01:44:28]  Right, right, right, right.
[01:44:30]  But eventually, you know, you're not going to be able to do much with it.
[01:44:35]  It's going to be diminishing returns.
[01:44:37]  And as other things happen in your life, like you get sued by everybody, that base is not going to be able to maintain the standard of living that you've become accustomed to with your million dollar studios and all this shit.
[01:44:51]  It's just not going to pan out.
[01:44:53]  This is destined to fail because it's a system that needs to continue and can't.
[01:44:58]  Yeah.
[01:44:59]  The content by its definition is a spinning wheel.
[01:45:03]  Yeah.
[01:45:04]  It's never going to get anywhere.
[01:45:06]  And no matter how gullible you are, sooner or later everybody wants to finally get somewhere.
[01:45:12]  True.
[01:45:13]  And they'll go somewhere else.
[01:45:14]  Right.
[01:45:15]  And so the only people who are not going to do that are going to be people who don't have a chance to begin with.
[01:45:20]  Right.
[01:45:21]  They're kind of helpless to the...
[01:45:23]  Fraud and manipulation that Alex engages in, and that's not going to be a base that is going to sustain you forever, and furthermore, it's not going to be a base that's going to really do anything.
[01:45:38]  No.
[01:45:38]  No.
[01:45:39]  And if you can't get another generation in to replace the people who go away, it's always going to be dwindling until it's nothing.
[01:45:46]  And there was a certainty, kind of, that Alex would be able to do that while he was the big premier game in the conspiracy propaganda world, but he's not that anymore.
[01:45:55]  His ability to recruit is minimized by his social media bans.
[01:46:00]  You know, the inflow has been stymied as opposed to the outflow continuing.
[01:46:06]  Like, it's just screwed.
[01:46:08]  Like, you know, when I heard him say this, like, we failed, I'm going to move to the country, that kind of thing, it's like, this is kind of, you knew this was coming, Alex.
[01:46:17]  You failed before you began.
[01:46:18]  Right, yeah.
[01:46:19]  You had some high highs, and it was pretty impressive.
[01:46:21]  It was a good ride.
[01:46:22]  Yeah, but this is kind of what happens.
[01:46:24]  You weren't building for the winter, more or less, because I think it's impossible.
[01:46:29]  Everything's so stupid that he's saying that he can't possibly get anybody who's either vulnerable or an idiot to be a fan.
[01:46:41]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:46:42]  He's self-selecting an impotent base, more or less.
[01:46:47]  Not impotent, like unable to reproduce, but not able to do anything.
[01:46:52]  It's sad.
[01:46:54]  Paranoid, perpetually in fear, and paralyzed by Yeah.
[01:47:02]  And think about how his business model also relies on self-selecting people who are gullible.
[01:47:07]  Yeah.
[01:47:08]  Because like, you know.
[01:47:09]  The placebo effect is his business model.
[01:47:11]  Well, back in the day, it was like, hey, the summer of rage is coming and the economy is going to collapse.
[01:47:15]  So buy my friends gold and everything will be fine.
[01:47:18]  And, you know, turned into the globalists are slowly poisoning you.
[01:47:21]  So buy my supplements.
[01:47:22]  Everything will be fine.
[01:47:24]  Those sorts of sales pitches are not things that you do with an audience that is critical.
[01:47:31]  Critically-minded, right-thinking people would hear that and be like, go fuck yourself.
[01:47:37]  Or they might look into it and be like, maybe gold is an alright investment, but I'm certainly not going to go with your shady ass friend.
[01:47:42]  No, that guy is scary as shit.
[01:47:45]  Or they'll look into it and be like, do I really need the burpees?
[01:47:48]  Am I going to get your krill oil?
[01:47:50]  What's going on?
[01:47:52]  Yeah, it's sad.
[01:47:54]  It really just kind of bummed me out.
[01:47:56]  Anyway, Alex has a surprise coming up on this episode.
[01:47:59]  Okay, is Ozymandias coming?
[01:48:01]  I have a little surprise for everybody.
[01:48:03]  You know San Antonio said they'll arrest you if you say the words Chinese virus.
[01:48:08]  I hear a stunt coming.
[01:48:10]  Well, let's just say we got a surprise up our sleeves.
[01:48:15]  Coming up next segment, we'll show you what's going on.
[01:48:18]  Nothing happened next segment.
[01:48:20]  I don't know if you play something later in the show, but I was like, I'm certain this is going to be fentanyl the dragon.
[01:48:24]  I'm certain it's going to be racist.
[01:48:26]  Whatever it is, since he's presenting it as related to the San Antonio story, I'm like, he's going to go fucking swing for the fences on some anti-Asian bigotry.
[01:48:35]  But I didn't hear anything.
[01:48:37]  I don't know what he was talking about.
[01:48:39]  I expected him to have somebody in San Antonio saying racist shit in front of a cop.
[01:48:45]  That seems like the obvious thing for him to do.
[01:48:47]  Get Mark Dice out there.
[01:48:48]  Yeah, just send somebody out there and be like, I'm a racist!
[01:48:51]  And then see what happens.
[01:48:52]  So, Alex gets into, like I said, no payoff to this that I'm aware of.
[01:48:58]  Alex goes, maybe it was something that didn't make the broadcast.
[01:49:02]  Okay.
[01:49:02]  Like the radio broadcast.
[01:49:03]  Maybe it was only on his video version.
[01:49:05]  I should have checked.
[01:49:06]  Ah, don't worry about it.
[01:49:07]  Anyway.
[01:49:07]  We'll figure it out.
[01:49:08]  Alex does a sales pitch for some products, and this is one of the more confusing things I've heard.
[01:49:13]  Okay.
[01:49:14]  8-pack PowerStack.
[01:49:15]  8-pack PowerStack.
[01:49:17]  It's an AM and PM pack, 13 different pills, 13 different supplements.
[01:49:21]  This is a way for you to give friends, family, yourself, to boost your overall body's defenses, to be healthy, to sleep better, everything.
[01:49:29]  It's 60% off.
[01:49:30]  So the 8-pack PowerStack is 13 pills?
[01:49:34]  This is confusing.
[01:49:35]  So I went to the Infowars store to try and figure out what was up with this, and as it turns out, it's, quote, eight different formulas, and some of these formulas are double pills.
[01:49:44]  The flex and joint support, the nootropic brain, and immune support formulas are each two pills, whereas the other six formulas are a single pill.
[01:49:53]  If you do some simple math, that is not 13 pills, that is 12. There's even a visual on the website that shows each of the pills, and there's clearly 12 of them.
[01:50:04]  Where's the 13th mystery pill, Alex?
[01:50:06]  What are you hiding?
[01:50:09]  It's the invisible pill that only men and info warriors can see, Dan.
[01:50:15]  Is that right?
[01:50:15]  Yeah, they don't put it on the website, because then just anybody could see it, Dan.
[01:50:19]  You gotta order it, and then if you're man enough, the 13th pill will manifest for you.
[01:50:24]  See?
[01:50:24]  Man, manifest.
[01:50:26]  Makes perfect sense.
[01:50:27]  Yeah, you're right.
[01:50:29]  I know.
[01:50:29]  I should have thought of that.
[01:50:30]  You should have.
[01:50:31]  Also, it's called the 8-pack power stack.
[01:50:34]  There are nine formulas.
[01:50:36]  Did you hear me?
[01:50:37]  There's the flex and joint support, nootropic brain, and immune support that are two pills each, and there's six that are one.
[01:50:45]  The AM one, the morning one, has five things in it, and then the PM has four.
[01:50:51]  That's nine.
[01:50:52]  It's a nine-pack power stack.
[01:50:53]  I can't imagine putting that much shit in your body.
[01:50:56]  It's a lot of pills.
[01:50:57]  That's a lot of pills.
[01:50:59]  Yeah.
[01:51:00]  Also, none of the numbers match up, and I don't know what's going on.
[01:51:03]  They need to really get their marketing in order.
[01:51:06]  Their branding is problematic.
[01:51:08]  I think it might be a little too late for that now.
[01:51:10]  Could be.
[01:51:10]  So Alex goes to calls before David Icke shows up.
[01:51:14]  And, I mean, David Icke, we're not going to listen to much of that interview because I don't respect the man.
[01:51:20]  No.
[01:51:21]  Why?
[01:51:21]  But Alex takes some calls.
[01:51:23]  He's a top biologist.
[01:51:24]  Dude.
[01:51:24]  What?
[01:51:25]  He might be.
[01:51:26]  Alex gets a call from someone who works in the medical field, and this is the kind of hardcore information you're going to get from Alex's audience.

=== Extreme Precautions (03:08) ===

[01:51:34]  We're going into a hardcore tyranny.
[01:51:36]  We're all in grave danger.
[01:51:37]  It says you're a medical worker.
[01:51:39]  What's your view on the lockdown?
[01:51:40]  I just check in patients at an MRI office.
[01:51:45]  What is your view on all this?
[01:51:47]  My view?
[01:51:48]  It's over-exaggerated.
[01:51:52]  What do the doctors and other medical workers around you think?
[01:51:54]  What's the consensus?
[01:51:56]  They're just taking extreme precautions.
[01:51:58]  I feel like it's half and half.
[01:52:00]  Some of them are buying into it.
[01:52:01]  Some aren't.
[01:52:05]  Well, I appreciate you calling today.
[01:52:07]  Anything else on your mind?
[01:52:08]  No.
[01:52:09]  Good call.
[01:52:10]  And appreciate her brevity.
[01:52:12]  Great call.
[01:52:13]  Brevity is the soul of lies.
[01:52:15]  I really love it.
[01:52:16]  Great call.
[01:52:17]  I feel like we walk away from that having a whole lot more information to work with, and I appreciate it.
[01:52:23]  Holy shit.
[01:52:25]  Oh, man.
[01:52:25]  Some of them are taking it seriously, but we're all taking extreme precautions.
[01:52:30]  How do you feel about it?
[01:52:32]  I don't think it's that big a deal.
[01:52:34]  Meh.
[01:52:35]  Anything else you want to say?
[01:52:36]  Nope.
[01:52:38]  Okay, then!
[01:52:39]  Cool.
[01:52:41]  So Alex goes to another caller, and this guy has a quote for Alex.
[01:52:45]  And Alex should recognize this quote, because it's one of the fake ones he uses.
[01:52:48]  Of course.
[01:52:49]  How long can the media get caught staging things?
[01:52:53]  As long as we let them, boss.
[01:52:55]  What was the president that said?
[01:52:57]  I think it was James Madison.
[01:52:58]  He said how far we're here to go as far as we let them go.
[01:53:03]  That's it, brother.
[01:53:03]  God bless you.
[01:53:04]  I appreciate your call.
[01:53:05]  So this caller thinks it's James Madison.
[01:53:07]  I'm real mad.
[01:53:08]  Alex says it's Thomas Jefferson.
[01:53:09]  I'm real mad.
[01:53:10]  It's actually Frederick Douglass.
[01:53:11]  I'm really mad at both of these guys.
[01:53:13]  I'm really mad.
[01:53:14]  But I like that Alex doesn't even recognize that this dude is using one of his fake quotes and misattributing it to a different dude.
[01:53:20]  I just don't.
[01:53:21]  It's funny.
[01:53:22]  I just don't, man.
[01:53:23]  So Alex talks about how there's nobody at the hospitals and what have you, and they're faking things and all this.
[01:53:29]  Although people are still getting MRIs, apparently.
[01:53:31]  Well, that lady is checking people in.
[01:53:33]  Yes.
[01:53:34]  I only am going to play this clip because there's a really important point that I need to make about it.
[01:53:39]  I don't really care about a lot of his content, but there's something that he's doing in this clip that is a big problem.
[01:53:45]  I got a threatening phone call from some folks saying...
[01:53:48]  We're going to sue you.
[01:53:49]  You claim our hospital is doing that.
[01:53:51]  Turns out, it was fake at that hospital.
[01:53:54]  So it's just because people would be out front.
[01:53:56]  They'd notice no one would be there for days.
[01:53:57]  All of a sudden, 20 people in hazmat suits and a line of cars for the media, and the same people were going in and out in circles.
[01:54:05]  Now, the reason that I played that is that is exactly the talking point that he uses about Sandy Hook.
[01:54:10]  Yep.
[01:54:10]  The walking around in circles, the media lining up cars, that is...
[01:54:15]  Just him taking his Sandy Hook talking points and reapplying it to hospitals during the coronavirus.
[01:54:20]  He needs to be fucking careful.
[01:54:22]  He's doing it again.
[01:54:24]  He's in the middle of this, doing it again.

=== Alex's Dilemma (04:30) ===

[01:54:27]  Tragedy.
[01:54:27]  He just can't resist being drawn to denying tragedy.
[01:54:32]  It's all he knows how to do to make money.
[01:54:34]  So there are people who are walking in and out performatively for the media to...
[01:54:42]  So when you're performatively doing something unnecessary, so you'd be like acting.
[01:54:50]  So it'd be like acting is what they would be doing.
[01:54:53]  I think, if I understand this correctly, this has to do with some video that came out of someone doing a remote shot and needing an establishing shot.
[01:55:04]  So like asking people to stand in a line or something like that.
[01:55:08]  So the news report would have B-roll or whatever.
[01:55:11]  And sure.
[01:55:12]  Yeah, alright.
[01:55:13]  That's cheating a shot or something.
[01:55:15]  But it's not the dead-to-rights proof that Alex is pretending it is.
[01:55:20]  And plus, there's video of Alex doing things like that.
[01:55:25]  It's what TV news does.
[01:55:28]  It's not dishonest, but it's also not strictly honest.
[01:55:33]  Wait until he hears about what they do on reality TV shows.
[01:55:37]  Some of those lines that those reality TV star people say...
[01:55:41]  They were given to them by a writer, Dan.
[01:55:44]  Can you imagine that?
[01:55:45]  Wait till you hear what Alex does in his documentaries.
[01:55:48]  Oh, boy.
[01:55:49]  So, earlier in the show, Alex was obsessed with pink sweaters.
[01:55:51]  Sure.
[01:55:51]  He speculated that David Icke wore a pink sweater to stick it to Bill Gates.
[01:55:56]  He did it.
[01:55:56]  Alex accidentally asks David Icke about this.
[01:56:00]  I shouldn't follow up.
[01:56:00]  Zuckerberg works directly under Gates and admits he takes orders from him and wears the same pink sweater.
[01:56:05]  That's why I wore this pink sweater today.
[01:56:07]  Did you wear your pink sweater in the last lunch?
[01:56:10]  Well, uh, no.
[01:56:16]  Oh.
[01:56:17]  Well, I think David Icke just kind of likes pink sweaters sometimes.
[01:56:21]  Petered out.
[01:56:22]  That's fine.
[01:56:22]  Yeah, you should have yes-handed that one, Icke.
[01:56:24]  No, he doesn't need to, because I don't think he understands what Alex's weird masculinity narrative is here.
[01:56:31]  And David Icke probably doesn't care that much about that.
[01:56:34]  Nah.
[01:56:34]  You can find a lot of pictures of David Icke over the years wearing pink shirts and sweaters.
[01:56:38]  He has a fine wardrobe.
[01:56:41]  Pink's a nice color.
[01:56:41]  Yeah, whatever.
[01:56:42]  I look pretty good in pink.
[01:56:44]  Not bad.
[01:56:45]  So, Jordan.
[01:56:46]  This last clip here that we have, we know that David Icke has been coming on Alex's show and saying that there is no virus.
[01:56:53]  It's completely fake.
[01:56:53]  That's because there is no virus.
[01:56:54]  Alex keeps allowing him to come on the show and doesn't really fight with him about that, although he should, because based on everything Alex says, he knows that there is a virus.
[01:57:05]  It's not a fake made-up thing.
[01:57:08]  Unfortunately, every single time David Icke is on, he swings Alex.
[01:57:13]  The last time he was on, he swung Alex, and he's like, oh, you're right.
[01:57:16]  This time, Alex, this is so stupid.
[01:57:21]  I hear them saying, well, it seems as if people aren't getting immunity.
[01:57:26]  Even people that have had it, they're not getting immunity.
[01:57:29]  But why are they getting immunity?
[01:57:31]  Because they've never had anything to get immunity.
[01:57:35]  That's why it doesn't act like any virus had ever acted before, because you're right, it's just completely made up.
[01:57:40]  Well, Alex puts the pieces together for him, even.
[01:57:44]  David Icke doesn't even need to come to that conclusion.
[01:57:46]  Alex does it for him.
[01:57:48]  So I guess when Alex is like, eventually when people are like, hey Alex, remember you said that there wasn't a virus?
[01:57:55]  He'd be like, I didn't say that.
[01:57:56]  We just had David Icke on and he gave other perspectives.
[01:57:59]  That's what he thinks that is.
[01:58:01]  That's not what that is.
[01:58:02]  That's wild.
[01:58:03]  That is Alex agreeing with.
[01:58:06]  You can't do that.
[01:58:07]  No, you can't.
[01:58:08]  You just can't.
[01:58:08]  You can't.
[01:58:10]  Like, that should be a part of every human being's brain, where it's like, I can't do that.
[01:58:15]  Yeah.
[01:58:15]  I can't do that thing.
[01:58:17]  Yeah.
[01:58:17]  That thing that I was going to do, where I said everything that I believed was false and I agree with you, and then later, five minutes later, I'm going to completely forget that I agree with you.
[01:58:27]  And I'm going to be fucking defensive about it, probably.
[01:58:28]  I'm going to be real mad about it.
[01:58:30]  Oh, yeah.
[01:58:30]  About people saying that I said these things.
[01:58:31]  How dare you make me think that I said that thing that I think I said that I know I didn't say I think I said.
[01:58:36]  It's fucking stupid.
[01:58:37]  Ugh.
[01:58:38]  Pointless.
[01:58:38]  Ugh!
[01:58:39]  Anyway, this was a wild walk through a couple days of Alex's rangy nonsense, but we have reached the end, and we'll see what happens on our next episode on Friday.

=== Can't Wait for Alex's Meltdown (01:17) ===

[01:58:50]  Check back on the rest of the week, see if Alex falls apart completely and disowns his show.
[01:58:56]  Why not?
[01:58:58]  I'd really like to hear him articulate more about how his life is a failure.
[01:59:02]  I'm hoping for a real Coach McGurk style, like rips off all of his clothes and just goes into the forest.
[01:59:07]  Leaves the guns behind him.
[01:59:09]  Yeah.
[01:59:09]  Braces the blade.
[01:59:10]  Yeah, no, the man episode with Coach McGurk.
[01:59:14]  Sure.
[01:59:15]  Yeah, that sounds great.
[01:59:16]  We'll see what happens in this protracted meltdown that Alex seems to be having.
[01:59:20]  It never ends, though.
[01:59:21]  No, unfortunately.
[01:59:23]  Or maybe it will.
[01:59:24]  Who knows?
[01:59:24]  Can't wait.
[01:59:25]  So, we'll be back, but until then, we have a website.
[01:59:29]  We do have a website.
[01:59:29]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[01:59:30]  Yes, it is.
[01:59:31]  We're also on Twitter.
[01:59:32]  We are on Twitter.
[01:59:33]  It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bed Jordan.
[01:59:35]  We're also on Facebook.
[01:59:36]  We are on Facebook if you'd like to subscribe to Patreon, but if you would like, please donate to a local charity in your area.
[01:59:43]  It would very much benefit.
[01:59:45]  Yes, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
[01:59:47]  I'm Leo.
[01:59:48]  I'm DZX Clark.
[01:59:49]  I'm wearing a pink sweater to stick it to Zuckerberg.
[01:59:52]  Andy in Kansas.
[01:59:53]  You're on the air.
[01:59:53]  Thanks for holding.
[01:59:56]  Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
[01:59:57]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:59:58]  I love your work.